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VOICEOVER: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In California, a deadly fire
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ravages a house trailer.
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One 16-year-old girl
dies at the scene.
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Her injured twin sister
succumbs four weeks later.
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Then the family suffers
another cruel blow
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when the girl's own
half-brother becomes
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a chief suspect in a bizarre
scenario of murder and arson.
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1955 was a summer
of romance for Maria
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Bauer and Michael Seymour.
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While working at a
resort near Chicago,
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they felt passionately in love.
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But when Maria returned
to her native Germany,
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she returned alone and pregnant.
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Nearly 40 years later,
her son Christoph
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needs your help to find his
birth father Michael Seymour.
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When bank executive John
Grundhofer arrived at work
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on November 19, 1990,
he became a target
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of a most bizarre kidnapping.
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His abductor was overweight,
oddly dressed, and clumsy,
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but he wielded what appeared
to be a homemade bomb,
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demanded $3 million in cash.
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Nearly three years,
this unlikely criminal
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has managed to
elude authorities.
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Perhaps someone watching tonight
will be able to identify.
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Join me for another
intriguing edition
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of "Unsolved Mysteries."
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In 1990, the FBI was
called in to investigate
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one of the most
bizarre kidnappings
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they've ever encountered.
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The perpetrator
was an overweight,
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middle-aged man who wore thick
glasses and a floppy rain hat--
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hardly the profile of
a dangerous criminal.
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Yet that is exactly what he was,
made more dangerous by the fact
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that his scheme was
flawed from the outset
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and bungled at nearly
every step along the way.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Minneapolis,
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Minnesota, November 19, 1990.
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At 8:10 AM, John Grundhofer,
a wealthy, hard-nosed business
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executive was
approaching his office.
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Grundhofer was Chairman and
President of First Bank System.
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Appointed in 1989 with a
directive to trim the fat,
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he had saved the bank
millions by eliminating
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more than 2,000 jobs.
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Grundhofer was a man
used to scrutiny,
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but as he arrived at
work that morning,
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he had no idea that his
every move was being watched.
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You're going to
have to go with me.
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What do you mean?
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Just get back in the car.
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There must be some mistake.
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I have no business with you.
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I think you do.
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This is Carl and you
are going with me.
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What do you want?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Grundhofer kept his cool.
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In fact, he was about to
spring a surprise of his own.
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The commotion soon drew
the attention of a witness.
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What are you doing?
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JEFF RASMUSSON: I heard shouting
and I looked over and saw
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two men rolling on the ground.
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It was at that point I thought
there was a mugging going on,
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so I started to run
over there to help
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whoever was being mugged.
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And I got about halfway there
when the gentleman had both
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gotten up and started to act
like they knew each other,
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and so I slowed to a walk.
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What's wrong?
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Is somebody sick?
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You need some help?
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Look, you better
get out of here.
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At first it seemed
so unreal that I almost
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laughed at the gentleman, and
then I realized it was real
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and I was in danger.
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And at that point,
I was terrified
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that I was going to be shot,
and I then ran to the elevator.
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Back up and get us
out of this garage.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The gunman ordered
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Grundhofer into the car.
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It was 8:13 AM.
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Just three minutes had
passed since Grundhofer
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drove into the parking garage.
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JOHN GRUNDHOFER (ACTOR): Now
where do you want me to drive?
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GUNMAN: Just head east.
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Just head towards Wisconsin.
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And give me your arm.
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What do want with them?
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Give me your left
arm and shut up.
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See, to avoid any
further difficulties,
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I'm going to attach
this dynamite to you.
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That way, if you give
me any other problems,
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all I've got to do
is push a button.
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RICHARD LIND: I think his
intention was to frighten Mr.
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Grundhofer sufficiently enough
that he would be very compliant
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and do what he was told to do.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At virtually that same morn,
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a passerby in the garage
found what the FBI believes
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was a cheat sheet
for the kidnapper,
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reminding him exactly
what he was going
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to order Grundhofer to do.
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RICHARD LIND: I believe
that the kidnapper is not
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really a professional criminal.
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It would seem to
me that if you're
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going to commit
that kind of a crime
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that you could basically do
it off the top of your head,
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if you will.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At around 8:45,
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Grundhofer and the
gunman were crossing
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the state line into Wisconsin,
35 miles from Minneapolis.
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It was clear that the abductor
had done his homework.
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Who takes charge
when you're not around?
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Maybe some vice president.
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Does Scott Taylor take over?
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You know Scott Taylor?
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Never mind.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): At 8:57,
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the kidnapper offered
Grundhofer to pull
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into a secluded rest area.
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They were now 46 miles
from Minneapolis.
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RICHARD LIND: When they
arrived at the wayside,
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the kidnapper handed
Mr. Grundhofer a note.
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Mr. Grundhofer then made a
phone call to his secretary who
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transcribed the ransom demands.
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I am a hostage of a group
called Parents Against Drugs.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The demand was for $3 million
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in various denominations-- $100,
$500, and even $1,000 bills.
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Once again, the kidnapper
had tipped his hand
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above his own inexperience.
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$1 million in $500s and
$1 million in $1,000s.
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RICHARD LIND: A
professional criminal would
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never ask for a $1,000 bill.
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You don't exactly
take a $1,000 bill
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and go to a convenience
store, buy a cup of coffee,
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and ask for change.
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There aren't too
many people that
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carry $1,000 bills with them.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Officials
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at First Bank System began
preparing the $3 million
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ransom.
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At around that same time, a
gunman was discovering that he
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had made a crucial mistake.
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He had lost his cheat sheet.
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Have you got the note?
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What note?
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The note from
the parking garage.
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I don't know what
you're talking about.
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I used a note before.
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I had written a few things down.
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Are you sure you didn't take it?
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I haven't seen this note.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
gunman became more agitated.
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Shut up about it.
Let's just go.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): He forced
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Grundhofer to hike down a steep
slope in remote, wooded area.
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Got to rest a minute.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The kidnapper
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was apparently so
out of shape that he
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struggled to make the descent.
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Eventually, the two
men reached a spot
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where a plastic sack containing
a sleeping bag had been left.
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Wait.
Wait a minute.
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Hold up.
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Wait right there.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The gunman moved quickly.
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He removed the bomb.
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He bound Grundhofer's
hands with a nylon rope,
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forced him into the sleeping
bag, taped his mouth shut.
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Grundhofer worked for 20
minutes to free himself.
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When he realized that no one
was watching, he went for help.
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At 10:25, Grundhofer called his
office from a nearby farmhouse.
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The ransom was never paid.
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The kidnapping made headlines
throughout the Midwest.
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10 days later, the
FBI set up a hotline
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and published this
composite drawing.
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The response was immediate.
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A man named John Henderson,
who bore a striking resemblance
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to the composite, was
identified as the kidnapper
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by two different callers.
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Henderson was a maintenance
worker who lived 25
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miles outside of Minneapolis.
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He had never worked
at First Bank System
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and had no apparent
connection to Grundhofer.
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JOHN HENDERSON: I
was stunned when
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they started questioning
me about a kidnapping
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case that had just happened.
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They wanted to search,
and I told him go ahead.
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I had nothing to hide.
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And they searched my car
and my garage and the house.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
FBI requested that Henderson
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participate in a
lineup, even though they
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had found no physical
evidence that
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connected him to the crime.
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Step forward and
say the line again.
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This is Carl, and
you are coming with me.
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DETECTIVE: Do you
see the man who
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kidnapped you in the lineup?
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It's number three.
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JOHN HENDERSON: I had no
worries about the lineup,
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because I know I didn't do it.
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And even though he identified
me, I know I didn't do it.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Despite Grundhofer's
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positive identification,
Jeff Rasmusson,
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the eyewitness in the
garage, did not pick
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Henderson out of the lineup.
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Nevertheless, the FBI
continued to look for evidence.
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A handwriting sample was taken.
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It did not match the note.
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However, the FBI
felt that Henderson's
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alibi was less than airtight.
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Later, he became the target
of a grand jury investigation,
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but in the end no
charges were filed.
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JOHN HENDERSON: So far the
FBI hasn't found anything.
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And they won't find anything,
because I didn't do it.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Next, a family
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is torn apart by accusations
of arson and murder.
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The story you are
about to see involves
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a brutal double homicide, which
took place several years ago.
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To this day, the case
remains unsolved,
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and a family has been
ripped apart by accusations
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of arson and murder.
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Time may never heal the
wounds of this complex case,
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but perhaps someone watching
may have some small clue
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that could help
bring the perpetrator
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or perpetrators to justice.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Willow Creek, California,
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population 1,000, is
situated in the heart
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of the state's timber
country, some 250
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miles north of San Francisco.
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Hans and Betty Hansen moved
to this quiet community
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in 1971, three years
after they were married.
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Hans operated a
logging supply business
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in a warehouse next to
the couple's mobile home.
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The Hansen family grew to
include four children--
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Donny and Becky from
Betty's prior marriage
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and twin girls Jill and Julie.
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HANS HANSEN: Jill and Julie
were good, sensible kids.
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They were a little shy
until you got to know them,
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but they had real good sense.
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They would kind of be more
friendly to underdog people,
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and they were real
popular girls in school.
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So if a new person came to
school or something that
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wasn't taken in so much
by the other people,
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they would befriend them.
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BETTY HANSEN: They seemed to
view people from the inside.
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It didn't matter
what they looked like
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or how much money they
had or who they were.
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They were kind to everyone.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
For Betty and Hans,
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life was close to perfect until
the night of November 14, 1986.
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At around 11:00 PM,
the 16-year-old twins
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were in their room
preparing for bed.
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Their half-brother
Donny, age 21,
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was visiting from the town
of Fortuna, 70 miles away.
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He would sleep on a
couch in the family room.
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At around 3:00 AM, Betty
Hansen suddenly awoke.
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Hans, get up.
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What?
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I smell smoke.
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Get the kids.
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Oh, no.
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Jill!
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Jill!
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Julie!
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Today Hans and Betty's memories
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are a blur of fragmented images,
but that night they were struck
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by several things that, even
in the midst of the chaos,
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didn't quite make sense.
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HANS HANSEN: If I shot that
fire extinguisher down the hall,
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it burned right back up.
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There was a strip in the
middle of that hallway burning.
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I remember that going through
my mind that it's real odd,
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that coming back in
a strip like that.
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And still I got no
response from anybody.
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I was yelling all
three of their names
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and then exited the house.
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As I ran out the door, I kicked
the gas can out of the way,
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not really thinking
much of it until I
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got a few steps away,
thinking that gas
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can shouldn't have been there.
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It was empty, because I felt how
it was empty when I kicked it.
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BETTY HANSEN: I went
up the little hallway,
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and the first person
I saw was Donny.
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And he was standing at
the end of the couch
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where I think he had slept that
night, and he didn't see me.
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And he's screaming
in a horrible voice.
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He's screaming get out of here
real loud and running, chasing.
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And so right away, I was afraid
for him, what was happening,
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who he was chasing out.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Betty ran
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into the shop, where a number of
fire extinguishers were stored.
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She was met first by
Donny, then by Hans.
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Hans!
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Betty, call the
fire department!
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Hurry!
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HANS HANSEN: When I got to
the shop, I got a ladder
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and came up to Jill's room
and just shoved that ladder
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right through the window.
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The room was totally in flames,
totally engulfed in flame.
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And I didn't get any
response or see anybody.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Hans, Betty, and Donny
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continuously returned
to the warehouse
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for fire extinguishers.
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Did you call the fire de--
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Yes, I did.
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Yes.
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Jill and Julie-- have
you seen Jill and Julie?
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- No.
- Ugh.
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HANS HANSEN: I
remember asking Donny
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as we were chasing back and
forth for fire extinguishers,
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did you see anybody?
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And he said, no, he
didn't see anything.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Fire trucks
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roared to the scene
within 15 minutes,
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but for Hans and Betty,
assuming that Jill
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and Julie were still inside the
trailer, it was an eternity.
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Minutes later, the Hansens
were both shocked and relieved
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when a neighbor noticed a
crumpled figure in a vacant lot
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across the road.
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Julie?
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It's Julie Hansen.
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Julie, what happened?
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Julie was
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nearly dead, bleeding
profusely from a gaping wound
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in her stomach.
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I'm going to go get some help.
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HANS HANSEN: I heard somebody
yell from across the street,
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we found one of them,
or something like that.
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Then the next thing, Donny
came running up on the deck,
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and he said, we found Julie.
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Julie's out.
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I got her out.
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And my first question to him
was, how bad is she burned?
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And he didn't give me an answer.
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Of course, I didn't
stand around.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Hans claims
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that it was only after Julie
was discovered that Donny took
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credit for having pulled
her from the fire,
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but that apparent discrepancy
was quickly overshadowed
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by concern for Julie.
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When I saw Julie,
I thought there
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was no way she could live.
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Her stomach was just
open, blown open.
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And so I ran back
across the street,
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and I just went from one
fireman to the other,
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begging him to please
go in and find Jill.
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Where's Jill?
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And then I'd run back
across the street
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to see how Julie was
doing, and each time I
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went back across
the street I was
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surprised she was still alive.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Emergency personnel
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rushed Julie to the
hospital, believing
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her stomach injury had
been caused by some kind
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of fire-related explosion.
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But in surgery, doctors made
an incredible discovery.
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Julie's traumatic
wound had absolutely
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nothing to do with the fire.
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Julie Hansen had been shot
in the abdomen, virtually
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at point blank range
with a 12-gauge shotgun.
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Well, I about fell
off my chair then,
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because that was the
first I'd known anything
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about any shooting at all.
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And I still couldn't
figure out why.
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Who could have hated us
this much to make an attack
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on our house like this?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The emerging facts
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seemed too shocking to be true.
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Unknown and unseen, someone had
apparently torched the Hansen
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home and gunned down Julie.
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Daylight brought still
more unbearable news.
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00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:20,026
Jill's body was
found in the ruins.
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00:19:23,796 --> 00:19:26,566
An autopsy would later
confirm that Jill had also
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been wounded by shotgun fire.
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Unable to flee, she had
perished in the flames.
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Authorities recovered
three shotgun shells
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and a second five gallon gas
can from the ashes, mounting
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evidence of arson and murder.
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Whoa.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The Hansens' warehouse
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was untouched by the fire,
and investigators examined
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every square inch for clues.
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00:19:56,663 --> 00:19:57,630
Hey, George.
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00:19:57,730 --> 00:19:58,531
Yeah?
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Over here.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Shoved behind some boxes,
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they found a 12-gauge shotgun.
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00:20:04,537 --> 00:20:07,206
Ballistic tests would later
prove it was a weapon used
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to shoot Jill and Julie Hanson.
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00:20:09,609 --> 00:20:11,611
What do you make of that?
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I don't know.
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00:20:13,346 --> 00:20:14,981
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The entire Hansen property
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00:20:15,081 --> 00:20:18,017
was cordoned off and kept under
round-the-clock surveillance.
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00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:25,758
Two days after the fire,
in the early morning,
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00:20:25,858 --> 00:20:28,795
the officer on duty caught a
prowler outside the warehouse.
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00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,166
Hey!
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00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:38,805
What are you doing there?
401
00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:39,706
This is my dad's place.
402
00:20:39,806 --> 00:20:41,140
He works here.
403
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,409
What's your dad's name?
404
00:20:42,509 --> 00:20:43,810
Hans Hansen.
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00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:45,211
You didn't see
the police there?
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00:20:45,312 --> 00:20:46,946
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): It was
Hans's and Betty's son, Donny.
407
00:20:47,046 --> 00:20:47,847
Watch the light.
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00:20:47,947 --> 00:20:49,081
You just stand right there.
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00:20:49,181 --> 00:20:50,483
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Detective George
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00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:52,752
Gatto was called to the scene.
411
00:20:52,852 --> 00:20:55,822
Donny told Gatto that he had
come to feed the family dog.
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00:20:55,922 --> 00:20:57,724
Caught him
looking in a window.
413
00:20:57,824 --> 00:20:59,859
Looking in a window.
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00:20:59,959 --> 00:21:00,860
What were you looking at, son?
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00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:05,798
I just came out
to feed my dog.
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COP: Tell us the truth, Donny.
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GEORGE GATTO: He
knew the dog had
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been taken to the neighbor's.
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00:21:12,439 --> 00:21:15,542
He knew the dog was
not there, and that's
420
00:21:15,642 --> 00:21:17,510
when the figured that
the reason he was there,
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00:21:17,610 --> 00:21:19,746
he was there to get the shotgun.
422
00:21:19,846 --> 00:21:23,450
Because he didn't know
we had found it yet.
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00:21:23,550 --> 00:21:24,584
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The case
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had taken an incredible turn.
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00:21:26,986 --> 00:21:29,922
Donny was about to become the
prime suspect in the murder
426
00:21:30,022 --> 00:21:31,724
of his own sister.
427
00:21:31,824 --> 00:21:34,894
Investigators soon uncovered
circumstantial evidence that
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00:21:34,994 --> 00:21:38,297
implicated Donny in the crime.
429
00:21:38,398 --> 00:21:40,800
Three days before the
fire, Donny had borrowed
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00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:42,935
the shotgun from a
friend, and Donny
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00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:45,171
admitted keeping it in his car.
432
00:21:45,271 --> 00:21:47,740
Unspent shells found
in the car matched
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00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,842
those used in the attack.
434
00:21:49,942 --> 00:21:51,578
Donny had purchased
the ammunition
435
00:21:51,678 --> 00:21:54,180
the very evening Jill
and Julie were shot.
436
00:21:57,650 --> 00:22:00,286
This credit card statement
verified that two days
437
00:22:00,387 --> 00:22:03,523
before the fire, Donny had
purchased five gallons of gas
438
00:22:03,623 --> 00:22:06,092
at a local station.
439
00:22:06,192 --> 00:22:08,127
Witnesses confirm
that the container
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00:22:08,227 --> 00:22:10,196
Donny filled was
identical to one
441
00:22:10,296 --> 00:22:11,464
of those found at the scene.
442
00:22:14,601 --> 00:22:17,036
There was only one person
who might be able to confirm
443
00:22:17,136 --> 00:22:18,671
the growing suspicions--
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00:22:18,771 --> 00:22:20,473
Julie Hansen.
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00:22:20,573 --> 00:22:22,675
Approximately two
weeks after the fire,
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she had recovered enough to tell
her parents what had happened.
447
00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:28,180
I crawled out
of bed over Jill.
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00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,348
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): At first,
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Julie's memories were sketchy.
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00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:34,086
She recalled being shot,
but not seeing anyone.
451
00:22:36,856 --> 00:22:38,290
She said she crawled
over her sister
452
00:22:38,391 --> 00:22:40,126
when she saw her sister
was still asleep in the bed
453
00:22:40,226 --> 00:22:44,130
beside her and stepped
out of her bedroom door.
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00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:48,735
And bang, she saw a flash and
she thought a bomb went off.
455
00:22:48,835 --> 00:22:50,937
And she said she reached
down and felt her belly.
456
00:22:51,037 --> 00:22:55,007
It was like a bowl of jello.
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00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:56,108
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): As Hans
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and Betty asked more
questions, Julie
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00:22:58,611 --> 00:23:00,947
had a chilling recollection.
460
00:23:01,047 --> 00:23:02,381
So did you see anything else?
461
00:23:02,482 --> 00:23:05,518
Did you see anybody?
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00:23:05,618 --> 00:23:10,022
I saw Donny's
face in the flash.
463
00:23:10,122 --> 00:23:12,258
HANS HANSEN (ACTOR): You saw
your brother Donny's face?
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00:23:12,358 --> 00:23:13,593
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): However,
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Julie's statement contradicted
what she told her doctor.
466
00:23:17,964 --> 00:23:21,167
I never found out
why she said that she
467
00:23:21,267 --> 00:23:22,168
saw Donny in the flash.
468
00:23:22,268 --> 00:23:24,303
She definitely did
not tell me that.
469
00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:28,240
She told me she saw
nobody specifically.
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When I questioned her
about that situation,
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I said, who did you see
or did you see anything?
472
00:23:33,946 --> 00:23:36,382
She said, I saw nobody--
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00:23:36,483 --> 00:23:37,584
never mentioned seeing Donny.
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00:23:40,286 --> 00:23:41,854
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On December 2, two weeks
475
00:23:41,954 --> 00:23:45,357
after the fire, Donny Hansen
was met by his mother and sister
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00:23:45,458 --> 00:23:47,093
at the county courthouse.
477
00:23:47,193 --> 00:23:50,597
He had come involuntarily
for further questioning.
478
00:23:50,697 --> 00:23:52,431
Thanks for coming down.
479
00:23:52,532 --> 00:23:54,501
What about the shells?
480
00:23:54,601 --> 00:23:56,268
The shells, we were
out trap shooting,
481
00:23:56,368 --> 00:23:57,970
and I picked some more
up because a storm
482
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:59,238
was on the way home.
483
00:23:59,338 --> 00:24:00,507
Don't you think
it's kind of funny
484
00:24:00,607 --> 00:24:02,575
that you bought the shells
right before the murder?
485
00:24:07,013 --> 00:24:10,817
What about the gun?
486
00:24:10,917 --> 00:24:12,318
Why did you try to hide the gun?
487
00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:17,456
Look, I just got
scared, you know.
488
00:24:17,557 --> 00:24:19,358
I panicked.
489
00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:20,860
Tried to hide the
gun in the warehouse,
490
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,995
because I figured if they
found the gun in my car
491
00:24:23,095 --> 00:24:25,397
they were just going to
assume that I did it.
492
00:24:25,498 --> 00:24:26,666
I don't have a
right to assume that?
493
00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:34,641
I'm having trouble
believing this whole story.
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00:24:34,741 --> 00:24:36,676
GEORGE GATTO: He kept
saying he was innocent.
495
00:24:36,776 --> 00:24:39,011
He failed a polygraph twice.
496
00:24:39,111 --> 00:24:42,749
And when I interviewed him, he
just kept denying everything,
497
00:24:42,849 --> 00:24:48,621
and every time it was a
different story with him.
498
00:24:48,721 --> 00:24:51,624
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
interrogation lasted two hours.
499
00:24:51,724 --> 00:24:55,161
When Donny emerged, he was
in handcuffs, facing trial
500
00:24:55,261 --> 00:24:57,463
on charges of arson and murder.
501
00:24:57,564 --> 00:24:58,364
What's going on?
502
00:24:58,464 --> 00:24:59,532
He's under arrest.
503
00:24:59,632 --> 00:25:00,633
On what grounds?
504
00:25:00,733 --> 00:25:01,934
I can't talk to you
about that right now.
505
00:25:02,034 --> 00:25:03,469
George, we are trying
to cooperate with you.
506
00:25:03,570 --> 00:25:05,137
BETTY HANSEN: That
was a pretty low point
507
00:25:05,237 --> 00:25:07,940
in my life to see
my son arrested
508
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,843
for the murder of my daughter.
509
00:25:10,943 --> 00:25:12,444
It was just unbelievable.
510
00:25:12,545 --> 00:25:14,947
And I kept thinking, when
am I going to wake up?
511
00:25:15,047 --> 00:25:16,115
When's this going to end?
512
00:25:20,386 --> 00:25:21,287
I can't describe it.
513
00:25:21,387 --> 00:25:24,256
There's just no words.
514
00:25:24,356 --> 00:25:26,492
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
nightmare was far from over.
515
00:25:26,593 --> 00:25:29,228
On December 19,
Julie suddenly died
516
00:25:29,328 --> 00:25:31,530
in a freak medical accident.
517
00:25:31,631 --> 00:25:33,465
An air bubble had
entered her bloodstream
518
00:25:33,566 --> 00:25:35,935
through an intravenous
tube and stopped her heart.
519
00:25:39,772 --> 00:25:41,941
Julie's death was
another devastating blow
520
00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:43,743
to her grieving parents.
521
00:25:43,843 --> 00:25:47,079
It was also a crippling
setback to the prosecutors.
522
00:25:47,179 --> 00:25:48,815
Julie's eyewitness
statements would now
523
00:25:48,915 --> 00:25:52,051
be inadmissible as evidence, so
she could not be cross-examined
524
00:25:52,151 --> 00:25:54,086
by defense attorneys.
525
00:25:54,186 --> 00:25:57,223
When we return, Donny
Hansen tells his story.
526
00:26:03,863 --> 00:26:05,632
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In April of 1988,
527
00:26:05,732 --> 00:26:07,767
Donny Hansen went on
trial for the murder
528
00:26:07,867 --> 00:26:10,937
of his half-sisters
Jill and Julie.
529
00:26:11,037 --> 00:26:13,172
The district attorney
was confident enough
530
00:26:13,272 --> 00:26:17,076
to ask for the death penalty.
531
00:26:17,176 --> 00:26:21,981
The defendant Donald Hansen
brought the gun that was
532
00:26:22,081 --> 00:26:23,916
the murder weapon to the scene.
533
00:26:24,016 --> 00:26:28,454
He brought the shotgun shells
that killed those two girls.
534
00:26:28,554 --> 00:26:33,459
He hid the murder weapon, and he
lied about all of those things.
535
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:34,961
That was strong evidence.
536
00:26:35,061 --> 00:26:36,495
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
However, the defense
537
00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:39,498
introduced eyewitness testimony
from the Hansens' neighbors
538
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:42,234
across the street.
539
00:26:42,334 --> 00:26:44,737
They claimed to have
seen two unidentified men
540
00:26:44,837 --> 00:26:47,807
near the trailer
while it was on fire.
541
00:26:47,907 --> 00:26:49,776
Their sighting became
the cornerstone
542
00:26:49,876 --> 00:26:51,678
of a defense theory
designed to show
543
00:26:51,778 --> 00:26:56,048
that Donny Hanson was innocent.
544
00:26:56,148 --> 00:27:00,352
There were a tremendous
number of unanswered facts
545
00:27:00,452 --> 00:27:04,423
and occurrences that happened
that night that the prosecution
546
00:27:04,523 --> 00:27:08,127
couldn't explain and which
were not consistent with Donny
547
00:27:08,227 --> 00:27:10,763
having been involved.
548
00:27:10,863 --> 00:27:14,934
I was able to come up with at
least a suggested scenario that
549
00:27:15,034 --> 00:27:17,469
tied all of the
unanswered, or the majority
550
00:27:17,569 --> 00:27:22,341
of the unanswered, factual
questions together.
551
00:27:24,443 --> 00:27:25,577
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The defense
552
00:27:25,678 --> 00:27:27,814
contended that
around 3:00 AM, two
553
00:27:27,914 --> 00:27:30,549
intruders, identity
and motive unknown,
554
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:34,520
approached the Hansens' trailer.
555
00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:37,790
WILLIAM BRAGG: The person had
found Donny's shotgun outside
556
00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:40,292
and, for whatever reason,
decided to bring it inside
557
00:27:40,392 --> 00:27:43,362
with some shells,
picked the lock,
558
00:27:43,462 --> 00:27:44,731
came through the
sliding glass door.
559
00:27:50,302 --> 00:27:52,939
They just spread the gasoline
around the living room area
560
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:56,575
at the front of the
trailer, the kitchen.
561
00:27:56,675 --> 00:27:58,745
They certainly didn't
seem to care that people
562
00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:00,012
were asleep in the trailer.
563
00:28:00,112 --> 00:28:03,282
They went throughout the
trailer and spread the gasoline.
564
00:28:14,593 --> 00:28:19,265
At some point during the
activities of the perpetrator,
565
00:28:19,365 --> 00:28:20,332
Julie was awake.
566
00:28:20,432 --> 00:28:26,538
And she comes down
the hallway and walks
567
00:28:26,638 --> 00:28:30,109
in on the perpetrator, who
then, at that particular point,
568
00:28:30,209 --> 00:28:33,112
apparently was to
the left of Donny
569
00:28:33,212 --> 00:28:39,018
as he was lying on the couch
and somewhat behind him.
570
00:28:39,118 --> 00:28:42,755
And he shoots her as she's
coming out the hallway.
571
00:28:42,855 --> 00:28:47,026
And she goes down, and
that's what wakes Donny up.
572
00:28:47,126 --> 00:28:49,728
Donny picks Julie up,
takes her out on the front
573
00:28:49,829 --> 00:28:53,099
porch, deposits her there.
574
00:28:53,199 --> 00:28:54,266
You OK?
You're up.
575
00:28:54,366 --> 00:28:55,234
You stay there.
576
00:28:55,334 --> 00:28:58,637
I'll find some help.
577
00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:03,575
TERRY R FARMER: If some unnamed,
unknown masked intruders
578
00:29:03,675 --> 00:29:07,579
are in your house killing people
and burning the place down
579
00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:10,316
and you're standing right next
to them that they'd shoot you,
580
00:29:10,416 --> 00:29:12,484
too, wouldn't you?
581
00:29:12,584 --> 00:29:13,385
They didn't.
582
00:29:15,621 --> 00:29:17,189
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to the defense
583
00:29:17,289 --> 00:29:19,258
theory, at least one
of the assailants
584
00:29:19,358 --> 00:29:23,129
was still in the trailer after
Hans, Betty, and Donny escaped.
585
00:29:23,229 --> 00:29:26,999
It was only then
that Jill was shot.
586
00:29:27,099 --> 00:29:28,134
WILLIAM BRAGG: And
the perpetrator
587
00:29:28,234 --> 00:29:31,003
then exited the trailer.
588
00:29:31,103 --> 00:29:34,941
That person put the
gun back in the car,
589
00:29:35,041 --> 00:29:37,676
threw it back in the
car as he running by.
590
00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:44,350
And those persons ran to
their car and jumped in,
591
00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:46,518
and off they went.
592
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:48,220
TERRY R FARMER: If you're
going to commit a murder,
593
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,290
don't you bring me
instruments to do that job?
594
00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:52,558
Don't you bring
the gun if you're
595
00:29:52,658 --> 00:29:53,692
going to burn down the house?
596
00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:55,527
Don't you bring the gas?
597
00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:59,165
How convenient for them
that both of these items
598
00:29:59,265 --> 00:30:01,633
just happened to be
provided by Donald Hansen.
599
00:30:01,733 --> 00:30:03,903
It makes no sense.
600
00:30:04,003 --> 00:30:05,337
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
However, the jury
601
00:30:05,437 --> 00:30:07,406
believed it did
make sense, and they
602
00:30:07,506 --> 00:30:11,810
found Donny Hansen not guilty.
603
00:30:11,911 --> 00:30:13,645
BETTY HANSEN: When I
first heard the verdict,
604
00:30:13,745 --> 00:30:18,017
my initial reaction was I
was really happy to think
605
00:30:18,117 --> 00:30:19,618
that he didn't do it.
606
00:30:19,718 --> 00:30:22,354
But when I thought
back to everything,
607
00:30:22,454 --> 00:30:27,226
I knew that Donny's involved,
that Donny knew what happened.
608
00:30:27,326 --> 00:30:30,162
And he knew what
went on that night,
609
00:30:30,262 --> 00:30:32,865
and he has all the answers.
610
00:30:32,965 --> 00:30:34,600
This has been a
real tragedy to us,
611
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:37,870
because we have lost
three of our four children
612
00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:41,807
out of this, two
of them are dead.
613
00:30:41,908 --> 00:30:44,476
And Donny's dead
to me, because I
614
00:30:44,576 --> 00:30:47,113
do feel he is 100%
responsible for this,
615
00:30:47,213 --> 00:30:51,850
whether he pulled it
off 100% himself or not.
616
00:30:51,951 --> 00:30:54,386
If I know who
would have done this,
617
00:30:54,486 --> 00:30:57,289
I would not have put my life on
the line through a jury trial,
618
00:30:57,389 --> 00:31:00,326
through a death penalty case,
to cover up for someone that
619
00:31:00,426 --> 00:31:02,962
killed my sisters that I love.
620
00:31:03,062 --> 00:31:06,165
A statement like that
is absolutely ludicrous.
621
00:31:06,265 --> 00:31:07,833
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Because of the notoriety
622
00:31:07,934 --> 00:31:11,070
surrounding the trial,
Donny has changed his name.
623
00:31:11,170 --> 00:31:13,272
He asked that we alter
his voice and obscure
624
00:31:13,372 --> 00:31:16,075
his face during this
exclusive interview.
625
00:31:16,175 --> 00:31:19,912
You know, I realize
that nothing has been done
626
00:31:20,012 --> 00:31:23,115
or has been done since
my acquittal to take
627
00:31:23,215 --> 00:31:25,084
steps to solve this case.
628
00:31:25,184 --> 00:31:27,286
I think the only way this
case will ever be solved
629
00:31:27,386 --> 00:31:29,255
is if someone's
conscience gets to them.
630
00:31:31,423 --> 00:31:32,691
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Donny's account
631
00:31:32,791 --> 00:31:34,793
is still the subject of debate.
632
00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:36,395
Although his attorney
claimed Donny
633
00:31:36,495 --> 00:31:38,797
was awakened by
the shotgun blast,
634
00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:42,969
Donny now says he
never heard the shot.
635
00:31:43,069 --> 00:31:44,436
No one that was in
that trailer that night
636
00:31:44,536 --> 00:31:49,008
heard any blast, so I don't
know how I didn't hear it.
637
00:31:49,108 --> 00:31:53,679
I don't know how any of us
didn't hear it as a group.
638
00:31:53,779 --> 00:31:56,148
But we're all fairly consistent,
and none of us heard anything.
639
00:31:58,717 --> 00:32:00,286
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Another nagging question
640
00:32:00,386 --> 00:32:03,289
is why Donny removed
the shotgun from his car
641
00:32:03,389 --> 00:32:06,358
before anyone knew that his
shotgun had been involved
642
00:32:06,458 --> 00:32:08,727
or even that a crime
had been committed.
643
00:32:11,463 --> 00:32:17,036
I don't really know why I
moved it, other than I didn't
644
00:32:17,136 --> 00:32:22,908
want someone steal it, someone
find the gun, and blame,
645
00:32:23,009 --> 00:32:25,911
think I did this if it
was used in the commission
646
00:32:26,012 --> 00:32:27,146
of this crime.
647
00:32:27,246 --> 00:32:31,450
At that time, I didn't
know if it had been or not.
648
00:32:31,550 --> 00:32:32,985
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
A third incident was
649
00:32:33,085 --> 00:32:35,187
also difficult to reconcile--
650
00:32:35,287 --> 00:32:38,824
Donny's 5:00 AM visit to the
warehouse and the explanation
651
00:32:38,924 --> 00:32:40,926
he gave police.
652
00:32:41,027 --> 00:32:42,628
DONNY HANSEN: It was
one of those things,
653
00:32:42,728 --> 00:32:45,231
the old story where one
lie leads into another.
654
00:32:45,331 --> 00:32:47,099
And they just
started rolling in.
655
00:32:47,199 --> 00:32:49,535
And I said, well, I was
coming in to check on my dog.
656
00:32:49,635 --> 00:32:52,038
Which I wasn't really
checking on the dog.
657
00:32:52,138 --> 00:32:53,772
I was going back to
get the gun, and that's
658
00:32:53,872 --> 00:32:55,741
the story that I told them.
659
00:32:55,841 --> 00:32:58,677
But I think that I reacted with
a vigorous amount of stupidity,
660
00:32:58,777 --> 00:32:59,845
and that's what
got me in trouble.
661
00:32:59,945 --> 00:33:00,946
I just came out
to feed my dog.
662
00:33:01,047 --> 00:33:02,548
COP: Tell us the truth.
663
00:33:02,648 --> 00:33:04,950
The accusations that I
know what went on that night
664
00:33:05,051 --> 00:33:06,852
are absolutely
ludicrous, because I
665
00:33:06,952 --> 00:33:12,391
had absolutely everything
to lose and nothing to gain.
666
00:33:12,491 --> 00:33:15,127
And the fact that
they let someone
667
00:33:15,227 --> 00:33:20,099
get away with what they did
to Jill and Julie tears me up.
668
00:33:20,199 --> 00:33:23,835
It decimates my life,
I guess you could say.
669
00:33:26,672 --> 00:33:28,574
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
whole truth about this hideous
670
00:33:28,674 --> 00:33:30,542
crime may never be known.
671
00:33:30,642 --> 00:33:33,011
A jury has acquitted
Donny Hansen,
672
00:33:33,112 --> 00:33:36,582
but his mother and
stepfather have not.
673
00:33:36,682 --> 00:33:37,783
HANS HANSEN: I
believe the insurance
674
00:33:37,883 --> 00:33:39,585
policy was part of the motive.
675
00:33:39,685 --> 00:33:40,952
The insurance was on me.
676
00:33:41,053 --> 00:33:44,456
I mean, Donny came home that
night to wipe our family out.
677
00:33:44,556 --> 00:33:46,758
He brought the gun with him.
678
00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:50,262
He had the gasoline that he
had bought two nights previous,
679
00:33:50,362 --> 00:33:52,898
and I believe the
motive was money.
680
00:33:52,998 --> 00:33:56,568
Whether he was by himself
or not, I don't know.
681
00:33:56,668 --> 00:34:00,306
BETTY HANSEN: You go on,
but life is never the same.
682
00:34:00,406 --> 00:34:02,541
And you can build a new
house or buy a new car,
683
00:34:02,641 --> 00:34:08,780
but you can't bring
back the girls.
684
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,949
And all we have
left is memories.
685
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,955
And it's really rough.
686
00:34:20,592 --> 00:34:21,893
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Jill and Julie
687
00:34:21,993 --> 00:34:25,597
Hansen were 15 years old when
these home movies were taken.
688
00:34:25,697 --> 00:34:27,999
The parents have never
gotten over the brutal crime
689
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,301
that tore their family apart.
690
00:34:42,948 --> 00:34:45,451
When we return, will
aging love letters
691
00:34:45,551 --> 00:34:48,019
lead to a long lost father?
692
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,988
Perhaps, with your help.
693
00:35:01,967 --> 00:35:04,536
It was the summer of 1955.
694
00:35:04,636 --> 00:35:07,806
Maria Hoffman, a 20-year-old
exchange student from Germany,
695
00:35:07,906 --> 00:35:11,477
found work at the Hotel Moraine,
an elegant lakeside resort
696
00:35:11,577 --> 00:35:14,213
26 miles from Chicago.
697
00:35:14,313 --> 00:35:17,349
Maria had just finished a year
of study in the United States
698
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:21,620
and needed money for
the passage home.
699
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:24,756
[speaking german]
700
00:35:25,891 --> 00:35:26,692
I'm sorry.
701
00:35:26,792 --> 00:35:29,295
I didn't see you.
702
00:35:29,395 --> 00:35:30,229
Hey, wait a minute.
703
00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:32,264
Are we both saying
the same thing?
704
00:35:32,364 --> 00:35:34,166
Yes.
705
00:35:34,266 --> 00:35:36,968
You surprised me so much,
I forgot my English.
706
00:35:37,068 --> 00:35:37,869
I'm sorry.
707
00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:39,070
I didn't mean to.
708
00:35:39,171 --> 00:35:40,672
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The young man introduced
709
00:35:40,772 --> 00:35:42,908
himself as Michael Seymour.
710
00:35:43,008 --> 00:35:45,711
Like Maria, he was
in his early 20s.
711
00:35:45,811 --> 00:35:47,979
Here, let me help you.
712
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:48,847
Thank you.
713
00:35:48,947 --> 00:35:49,848
You're very kind.
714
00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:51,950
I haven't seen
you here before.
715
00:35:52,050 --> 00:35:53,118
Are you new?
716
00:35:53,219 --> 00:35:54,386
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The chance encounter
717
00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:56,522
quickly blossomed
into a summer romance,
718
00:35:56,622 --> 00:35:58,324
but it was a
relationship Maria would
719
00:35:58,424 --> 00:36:08,200
keep secret for nearly 30
years, until the spring of 1983.
720
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:11,570
In the ensuing years, Maria
had returned to Germany,
721
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:15,040
married, become a mother
and a grandmother.
722
00:36:15,140 --> 00:36:17,142
Her oldest son Christoph
was a Lieutenant
723
00:36:17,243 --> 00:36:19,010
in the German Air Force.
724
00:36:19,110 --> 00:36:21,447
During a weekend
visit with him, Maria
725
00:36:21,547 --> 00:36:23,148
made a stunning confession.
726
00:36:23,249 --> 00:36:26,252
Chris, there is something
I want to talk to you about.
727
00:36:26,352 --> 00:36:27,719
What is it?
728
00:36:27,819 --> 00:36:31,623
This is very difficult.
Chris, your father
729
00:36:31,723 --> 00:36:33,859
is not your real father.
730
00:36:33,959 --> 00:36:35,227
What?
731
00:36:35,327 --> 00:36:38,764
The man who raised you
is not your real father.
732
00:36:38,864 --> 00:36:40,966
Mama, are you serious?
733
00:36:41,066 --> 00:36:43,001
Your real father
is a man I met when
734
00:36:43,101 --> 00:36:45,871
I was in the United States.
735
00:36:45,971 --> 00:36:47,806
Why haven't you
told me this sooner?
736
00:36:47,906 --> 00:36:50,276
CHRISTOPH BAUER: When my
mother first told me this,
737
00:36:50,376 --> 00:36:53,845
I felt a little bit anger about
her not telling me before.
738
00:36:53,945 --> 00:36:54,746
I am your son.
739
00:36:54,846 --> 00:36:55,881
I have a right to know.
740
00:36:55,981 --> 00:36:57,516
CHRISTOPH BAUER: I made
the decision right there
741
00:36:57,616 --> 00:37:02,053
that I need to find him, that
I need to find out what kind
742
00:37:02,153 --> 00:37:07,192
of man he is, that I want to
see him and make my own decision
743
00:37:07,293 --> 00:37:09,895
whether I like him or not
and whether I want to stay
744
00:37:09,995 --> 00:37:13,332
in contact with him or not.
745
00:37:13,432 --> 00:37:14,666
How did it happen?
746
00:37:14,766 --> 00:37:18,103
It was the year after I
was in school in America.
747
00:37:18,203 --> 00:37:19,605
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Over the next hour,
748
00:37:19,705 --> 00:37:22,708
Christoph learned more
about his biological father
749
00:37:22,808 --> 00:37:24,075
and the long secret romance.
750
00:37:27,279 --> 00:37:29,214
For Maria and Michael,
the attraction had
751
00:37:29,315 --> 00:37:31,517
been instant and all-consuming.
752
00:37:31,617 --> 00:37:33,719
Together, they spent
an enchanted summer.
753
00:37:37,022 --> 00:37:40,326
CHRISTOPH BAUER: My mother told
me that he was from Canada,
754
00:37:40,426 --> 00:37:43,429
that he was a very
gentle man and that she
755
00:37:43,529 --> 00:37:47,065
fell in love with this man and
she had an affair with him.
756
00:37:53,238 --> 00:37:54,706
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
But the carefree love
757
00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:58,577
affair was eventually clouded
by a very real concern.
758
00:37:58,677 --> 00:37:59,978
Maria Hoffman was pregnant.
759
00:38:02,848 --> 00:38:05,351
CHRISTOPH BAUER: She was very
worried about the future,
760
00:38:05,451 --> 00:38:09,455
because she was in
a foreign country
761
00:38:09,555 --> 00:38:12,758
with basically no fixed income.
762
00:38:12,858 --> 00:38:16,795
And her friend, the man
she was in love with,
763
00:38:16,895 --> 00:38:21,299
obviously didn't have a
very high income job either.
764
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,735
So they would have
had to struggle a lot.
765
00:38:27,539 --> 00:38:28,974
I also know that
they were in love
766
00:38:29,074 --> 00:38:31,076
and that she wanted
to be with him.
767
00:38:37,516 --> 00:38:39,551
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In October of 1955,
768
00:38:39,651 --> 00:38:42,854
Maria made an
agonizing decision.
769
00:38:42,954 --> 00:38:45,256
She would return to
Germany to have her baby
770
00:38:45,357 --> 00:38:47,092
without Michael Seymour.
771
00:38:50,596 --> 00:38:52,230
CHRISTOPH BAUER: They
separated, not in anger.
772
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,967
They separated in good
face and planned on getting
773
00:38:56,067 --> 00:38:59,270
together again later on.
774
00:38:59,371 --> 00:39:02,240
I don't know
what to say, Maria.
775
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:09,214
Neither do I. It's
all so confusing.
776
00:39:09,314 --> 00:39:13,184
I know that I'll miss you.
777
00:39:13,284 --> 00:39:15,921
CHRISTOPH BAUER: It wasn't
an easy way for her,
778
00:39:16,021 --> 00:39:18,824
but it was the best
way because she
779
00:39:18,924 --> 00:39:23,128
could go to the security of her
family and had all the support
780
00:39:23,228 --> 00:39:23,995
that she needed.
781
00:39:29,635 --> 00:39:30,936
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Maria would never
782
00:39:31,036 --> 00:39:33,872
again see Michael Seymour.
783
00:39:33,972 --> 00:39:38,444
Christoph was born in
Germany on May 22, 1956.
784
00:39:38,544 --> 00:39:40,145
The following
year, Maria married
785
00:39:40,245 --> 00:39:42,648
a college professor,
a man Christoph would
786
00:39:42,748 --> 00:39:46,585
come to know as his father.
787
00:39:46,685 --> 00:39:48,319
Christoph, sit down.
788
00:39:51,356 --> 00:39:53,992
There is something
I have for you
789
00:39:54,092 --> 00:39:56,995
I have been saving
all these years.
790
00:39:57,095 --> 00:39:59,397
These are letters
from your father.
791
00:40:03,669 --> 00:40:07,639
I hope that they will help
you to understand or at least
792
00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:10,942
to have more information.
793
00:40:11,042 --> 00:40:12,878
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In
all, there were four letters,
794
00:40:12,978 --> 00:40:15,614
the last written in 1958.
795
00:40:15,714 --> 00:40:18,784
Included were two snapshots
of Michael Seymour.
796
00:40:18,884 --> 00:40:21,953
Christoph Bauer at
the age of 27 suddenly
797
00:40:22,053 --> 00:40:25,056
found himself staring into
the face of his birth father.
798
00:40:29,394 --> 00:40:32,798
Christoph immediately followed
up the few clues he had.
799
00:40:32,898 --> 00:40:35,033
He wrote to the four
different return addresses
800
00:40:35,133 --> 00:40:36,201
on the envelopes.
801
00:40:36,301 --> 00:40:37,102
He got no response.
802
00:40:40,105 --> 00:40:43,008
Government agencies both in
Canada and the United States
803
00:40:43,108 --> 00:40:46,277
had no records of Seymour,
and the Hotel Moraine
804
00:40:46,377 --> 00:40:48,947
where Christoph's mother
and Seymour had met
805
00:40:49,047 --> 00:40:50,849
had long ago burned
to the ground.
806
00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:55,754
But there was one ray of hope.
807
00:40:55,854 --> 00:40:58,256
A cousin of Maria's
who lived in Chicago
808
00:40:58,356 --> 00:41:00,458
said that Michael
Seymour had periodically
809
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:02,894
phoned her after Maria
returned to Germany.
810
00:41:02,994 --> 00:41:05,396
Have you heard from Maria?
811
00:41:05,497 --> 00:41:06,865
Do you know how
she's been doing?
812
00:41:06,965 --> 00:41:08,567
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
To Christoph's amazement,
813
00:41:08,667 --> 00:41:10,769
Michael Seymour's
occasional calls had
814
00:41:10,869 --> 00:41:13,104
continued for nearly 20 years.
815
00:41:13,204 --> 00:41:14,940
And Chris-- how's he doing?
816
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,409
CHRISTOPH BAUER: When I learned
that he had checked on me
817
00:41:18,510 --> 00:41:21,947
and that he still
was interested in me,
818
00:41:22,047 --> 00:41:27,653
I felt supported in my
decision to find him.
819
00:41:27,753 --> 00:41:32,691
1976, this relative
moved, and that
820
00:41:32,791 --> 00:41:34,025
was the end of the contact.
821
00:41:37,663 --> 00:41:38,964
These are letters.
822
00:41:39,064 --> 00:41:40,165
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): One year
823
00:41:40,265 --> 00:41:43,401
after her dramatic
confession, Maria Bauer died.
824
00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:45,671
She was 49 years old.
825
00:41:45,771 --> 00:41:47,906
The aging letters
she left to Christoph
826
00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:53,278
paint a bittersweet
picture of youthful love.
827
00:41:53,378 --> 00:41:54,880
VOICEOVER: "I feel
any child of yours
828
00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:57,248
would be somebody worthwhile.
829
00:41:57,348 --> 00:42:00,686
I'm happy to be joined to you
through it, one way or another,
830
00:42:00,786 --> 00:42:03,689
even if by now or in
time to come that is all
831
00:42:03,789 --> 00:42:06,357
we have between us.
832
00:42:06,457 --> 00:42:08,927
I also want some kind
of closer relationship
833
00:42:09,027 --> 00:42:10,796
with our son Christopher.
834
00:42:10,896 --> 00:42:13,899
"I think he is the cutest
thing I've ever seen.
835
00:42:13,999 --> 00:42:16,434
I received your last letter
with the two pictures of him
836
00:42:16,534 --> 00:42:19,037
on the bicycle
and with yourself.
837
00:42:19,137 --> 00:42:20,438
I really treasure them."
838
00:42:25,777 --> 00:42:27,713
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Today,
Christoph Bauer is a captain
839
00:42:27,813 --> 00:42:29,547
in the German Air Force.
840
00:42:29,648 --> 00:42:32,751
Since 1991, he has lived
with his family in the United
841
00:42:32,851 --> 00:42:34,720
States, where he is
training helicopter
842
00:42:34,820 --> 00:42:37,022
pilots for the US Army.
843
00:42:37,122 --> 00:42:40,892
Christoph and his family will be
returning to Germany next year.
844
00:42:40,992 --> 00:42:44,295
Perhaps Michael Seymour can
be found before they leave,
845
00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:46,598
so he can meet his son
and three grandchildren
846
00:42:46,698 --> 00:42:47,498
for the first time.
847
00:42:50,435 --> 00:42:52,604
Recently, Christoph
was surprised to learn
848
00:42:52,704 --> 00:42:55,406
that the name Michael
Seymour is an alias.
849
00:42:55,506 --> 00:43:01,046
Seymour's real name is Walter
Joseph Anthony Seymour.
850
00:43:01,146 --> 00:43:03,949
He was born October
4, 1930, in Pembroke,
851
00:43:04,049 --> 00:43:06,818
Ontario, Canada and lived
in Evanston, Illinois,
852
00:43:06,918 --> 00:43:20,231
until at least 1970.
853
00:43:20,331 --> 00:43:23,068
On our next "Unsolved
Mysteries," a harrowing tale
854
00:43:23,168 --> 00:43:25,904
of three young men who
escaped from an Oklahoma jail
855
00:43:26,004 --> 00:43:28,874
and took to the road, armed
with a truckload of weapons.
856
00:43:28,974 --> 00:43:32,310
After a wild 150-mile
chase, state troopers
857
00:43:32,410 --> 00:43:37,048
cornered the fugitives but one
of them managed to slip away.
858
00:43:37,148 --> 00:43:41,552
The Mona Lisa, one of Leonardo
da Vinci's greatest works.
859
00:43:41,653 --> 00:43:43,554
The identity of the
model is a mystery
860
00:43:43,655 --> 00:43:47,392
that has intrigued and baffled
historians for 500 years.
861
00:43:47,492 --> 00:43:51,196
Now, an unorthodox new theory
has sparked a heated debate.
862
00:43:51,296 --> 00:43:55,767
Could the model have
been Leonardo himself?
863
00:43:55,867 --> 00:43:58,469
Join me next time
for another edition
864
00:43:58,569 --> 00:44:01,306
of "Unsolved Mysteries."
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