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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:07,408 ANNOUNCER: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,410 Whenever possible, the actual family members 3 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 4 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:13,013 in recreating the events. 5 00:00:13,114 --> 00:00:15,316 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 6 00:00:20,721 --> 00:00:21,955 NARRATOR: Five weeks ago, we brought you 7 00:00:22,056 --> 00:00:24,758 the story of a young man who was suffering from amnesia 8 00:00:24,858 --> 00:00:28,096 and living in a homeless shelter in San Diego. 9 00:00:28,196 --> 00:00:31,465 Thanks to our viewers, he now knows who he is he will soon 10 00:00:31,565 --> 00:00:33,734 be reunited with his family. 11 00:00:33,834 --> 00:00:36,804 Tonight, the dramatic conclusion to his story. 12 00:00:36,904 --> 00:00:39,006 And we'll introduce you to this woman, 13 00:00:39,107 --> 00:00:41,709 also suffering from amnesia and needing your help 14 00:00:41,809 --> 00:00:44,878 to find out who she is. 15 00:00:44,978 --> 00:00:47,815 We'll also examine accusations that a nurse in Texas 16 00:00:47,915 --> 00:00:51,819 named Ethel Nation sold dozens of babies to adoptive parents. 17 00:00:51,919 --> 00:00:54,155 Two of those infants, who are now adults, 18 00:00:54,255 --> 00:00:58,726 would like your help to find their natural parents. 19 00:00:58,826 --> 00:01:01,362 And finally, with Halloween almost upon us, 20 00:01:01,462 --> 00:01:06,033 two tales of things that go bump in the night. 21 00:01:06,134 --> 00:01:07,935 NARRATOR: During the Civil War, this building 22 00:01:08,035 --> 00:01:10,838 was an important outpost for the Union Army. 23 00:01:10,938 --> 00:01:14,108 Today, it is a museum, and many employees believe some 24 00:01:14,208 --> 00:01:17,945 of the old soldiers never left. 25 00:01:18,045 --> 00:01:19,947 This building, an upscale restaurant, 26 00:01:20,047 --> 00:01:21,582 known as the Moss Beach Distillery, 27 00:01:21,682 --> 00:01:24,952 also has a spectacular and intriguing past. 28 00:01:25,052 --> 00:01:27,087 Legend has it that during the roaring '20s, 29 00:01:27,188 --> 00:01:31,091 it was a hotbed for loose women, bathtub gin, racketeering, 30 00:01:31,192 --> 00:01:33,894 and mobsters. 31 00:01:33,994 --> 00:01:36,063 Over the years, eyewitnesses recount 32 00:01:36,164 --> 00:01:39,900 a series of strange happenings right here in the distillery-- 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,870 eerie sights and sounds that no matter how hard you try, 34 00:01:42,970 --> 00:01:45,072 cannot be explained. 35 00:01:45,173 --> 00:01:47,175 Some believe that the ghosts of the Roaring '20s 36 00:01:47,275 --> 00:01:50,311 are still here today, brewing up spirited mischief 37 00:01:50,411 --> 00:01:54,682 to make a fascinating and chilling unsolved mystery. 38 00:01:54,782 --> 00:01:59,153 [theme music] 39 00:02:49,870 --> 00:02:52,105 NARRATOR: Moss Beach is a lonely, windswept cove 40 00:02:52,206 --> 00:02:55,209 which lies 20 miles south of San Francisco. 41 00:02:55,309 --> 00:02:57,645 The Moss Beach Distillery is perched on a bluff 42 00:02:57,745 --> 00:02:59,680 overlooking the cove. 43 00:02:59,780 --> 00:03:01,315 The restaurant's name pays homage 44 00:03:01,415 --> 00:03:03,116 to the building's history. 45 00:03:03,217 --> 00:03:05,118 During the heady days of prohibition, 46 00:03:05,219 --> 00:03:09,022 it was a notorious speakeasy. 47 00:03:09,122 --> 00:03:11,692 In recent years, all manner of strange goings 48 00:03:11,792 --> 00:03:15,028 on have been reported at the Moss Beach Distillery. 49 00:03:15,128 --> 00:03:18,332 Waitresses swear that cold winds swirl through the dining room 50 00:03:18,432 --> 00:03:22,035 when no windows or doors are open. 51 00:03:22,135 --> 00:03:25,038 One of the former owners claims she has seen objects fly 52 00:03:25,138 --> 00:03:27,908 through the air and doors lock mysteriously 53 00:03:28,008 --> 00:03:28,809 of their own accord. 54 00:03:32,313 --> 00:03:34,748 At last count, as many as five different ghosts 55 00:03:34,848 --> 00:03:37,885 have been reported lurking in and around this restaurant. 56 00:03:37,985 --> 00:03:41,489 Now I've been here all day, and I haven't seen a single ghost. 57 00:03:41,589 --> 00:03:43,291 But over the years, a lot of other people 58 00:03:43,391 --> 00:03:45,993 have or say they have. 59 00:03:46,093 --> 00:03:48,262 And since it's almost Halloween, the rest of us 60 00:03:48,362 --> 00:03:51,299 should at least try to keep an open mind. 61 00:03:51,399 --> 00:03:53,934 According to local legend, all this ghostly business 62 00:03:54,034 --> 00:03:58,005 began some 70 years ago with a beautiful lady in blue. 63 00:04:00,808 --> 00:04:03,010 NARRATOR: The Roaring '20s, flappers, 64 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:06,514 fast living, illegal booze. 65 00:04:06,614 --> 00:04:09,216 Hey, Eddie, tell those punks to get the lead out. 66 00:04:09,317 --> 00:04:12,486 NARRATOR: Frank's Roadhouse, the speakeasy at Moss Beach, 67 00:04:12,586 --> 00:04:16,256 was a favorite jumping off point for bootleggers. 68 00:04:16,357 --> 00:04:17,458 Hey, what took you so long? 69 00:04:17,558 --> 00:04:18,592 Hey, you want the goods? You gotta wait for them. 70 00:04:18,692 --> 00:04:19,760 Let's get this party rolling. - Nice. 71 00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:21,362 Hey, Tony. 72 00:04:21,462 --> 00:04:26,734 Mm, gentlemen, the best whiskey money can buy, 73 00:04:26,834 --> 00:04:29,002 fresh off the boat. 74 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:30,438 NARRATOR: Franks was also the setting 75 00:04:30,538 --> 00:04:34,207 for a legendary love triangle. 76 00:04:34,308 --> 00:04:35,809 The lady was beautiful. 77 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:38,979 She always wore blue. 78 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:41,615 The piano player had eyes only for her. 79 00:04:41,715 --> 00:04:43,917 But their romance was conducted in secret 80 00:04:44,017 --> 00:04:48,656 because the lady in blue belonged to someone else. 81 00:04:48,756 --> 00:04:52,025 The lovers communicated in code, a silent language 82 00:04:52,125 --> 00:04:54,362 in which the lift of an eyebrow spoke volumes. 83 00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:01,735 The lady's husband was a bootlegger, 84 00:05:01,835 --> 00:05:04,572 and that night, she made a serious mistake. 85 00:05:04,672 --> 00:05:06,239 Unaware that he would soon arrive, 86 00:05:06,340 --> 00:05:09,042 she signaled the piano player to meet her on the beach. 87 00:05:17,050 --> 00:05:19,186 Moss Beach was a bootleggers' haven, 88 00:05:19,286 --> 00:05:21,489 isolated and sheltered under a cliff 89 00:05:21,589 --> 00:05:22,790 just outside the speakeasy. 90 00:05:22,890 --> 00:05:24,157 Seen my wife down here? 91 00:05:24,257 --> 00:05:25,593 NARRATOR: When the lady's husband found out 92 00:05:25,693 --> 00:05:28,529 she had left Frank's Roadhouse, he made his way to the cove 93 00:05:28,629 --> 00:05:30,431 and frantically questioned his cronies. 94 00:05:30,531 --> 00:05:31,365 Son of a-- 95 00:05:31,465 --> 00:05:33,701 Hey, Mick, keep in the bottle. 96 00:05:33,801 --> 00:05:35,035 NARRATOR: Suddenly, the bootlegger 97 00:05:35,135 --> 00:05:36,970 saw his wife with the piano player 98 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:39,973 and went mad with jealousy. 99 00:05:40,073 --> 00:05:40,874 Oh. 100 00:05:40,974 --> 00:05:42,242 No, it's all right. 101 00:05:42,342 --> 00:05:43,243 Hey, evening, Max. 102 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:44,745 - Very bad move, Eddie. - No, no, no. 103 00:05:44,845 --> 00:05:45,946 Relax. - What's wrong with you? 104 00:05:46,046 --> 00:05:47,080 Why would you do that to me? 105 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:47,981 I'm telling you, relax. 106 00:05:48,081 --> 00:05:48,949 Stay back! 107 00:05:49,049 --> 00:05:50,017 That's it, right now, right now. 108 00:05:50,117 --> 00:05:51,284 Let's go, Max. NARRATOR: A knife flashed. 109 00:05:51,385 --> 00:05:52,185 A gun was drawn. 110 00:05:52,285 --> 00:05:53,587 I'm gonna blow your brains out! 111 00:05:53,687 --> 00:05:56,023 NARRATOR: The lady threw herself between the two men she loved. 112 00:05:56,123 --> 00:05:57,391 Eddie! [grunt] 113 00:05:57,491 --> 00:05:58,358 [groan] 114 00:06:01,261 --> 00:06:02,596 Lucy. 115 00:06:02,696 --> 00:06:04,498 Lucy. 116 00:06:04,598 --> 00:06:05,899 NARRATOR: When the struggle was over, 117 00:06:05,999 --> 00:06:09,302 the beautiful lady in blue lay lifeless, victim of her lover's 118 00:06:09,403 --> 00:06:12,239 dagger, or so it is said. 119 00:06:12,339 --> 00:06:14,808 Some will deny that she ever existed, 120 00:06:14,908 --> 00:06:17,110 but others will swear that her ghost haunts 121 00:06:17,210 --> 00:06:18,912 Moss Beach to this very day. 122 00:06:21,782 --> 00:06:24,418 Believers claim that just as the Blue Lady once held court 123 00:06:24,518 --> 00:06:28,856 inside the speakeasy, her spirit now pervades the restaurant, 124 00:06:28,956 --> 00:06:30,658 breathing a chill wind down the necks 125 00:06:30,758 --> 00:06:32,025 of women she sees as rivals. 126 00:06:36,564 --> 00:06:39,332 Moreover, some employees swear that she calls out 127 00:06:39,433 --> 00:06:41,001 their names seductively when they are 128 00:06:41,101 --> 00:06:42,402 all alone in the dining room. 129 00:06:42,503 --> 00:06:43,303 BLUE LADY: Bryan. 130 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,714 She's mischievous. 131 00:06:53,814 --> 00:06:56,249 A lot of pranks will happen, a lot of things will go on, 132 00:06:56,349 --> 00:06:59,887 but I don't think that any of it is malicious. 133 00:06:59,987 --> 00:07:02,790 I don't think that anything is supposed to be hair-raising, 134 00:07:02,890 --> 00:07:04,291 send you running out of a building, 135 00:07:04,391 --> 00:07:07,027 or anything else like that. 136 00:07:07,127 --> 00:07:08,095 She's good. 137 00:07:08,195 --> 00:07:12,833 She seems to be a kind soul, nice spirit. 138 00:07:12,933 --> 00:07:16,937 It still amazes me that she still is there and still 139 00:07:17,037 --> 00:07:18,338 playing tricks on people. 140 00:07:18,438 --> 00:07:20,874 Every time I come back and talk to someone, 141 00:07:20,974 --> 00:07:25,445 they give me the list of all the things that she's been doing. 142 00:07:25,546 --> 00:07:26,980 NARRATOR: When Pat and Dave Andrews owned 143 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,049 the Moss Beach Distillery, their family 144 00:07:29,149 --> 00:07:30,851 lived on the ground floor. 145 00:07:30,951 --> 00:07:34,021 They say the Blue Lady seemed to delight in locking 146 00:07:34,121 --> 00:07:36,824 them out of their rooms. 147 00:07:36,924 --> 00:07:39,727 [clattering] 148 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:48,702 Pat also says that the Blue Lady liked to play other tricks, 149 00:07:48,802 --> 00:07:50,538 especially late at night when Pat 150 00:07:50,638 --> 00:07:52,606 was all alone in the restaurant office. 151 00:07:55,342 --> 00:07:56,644 PATRICIA ANDREWS (VOICEOVER): My checkbook 152 00:07:56,744 --> 00:07:58,879 lifted right off the shelf above my head 153 00:07:58,979 --> 00:08:02,049 and sailed around, kind of slowly, 154 00:08:02,149 --> 00:08:04,417 around in this small room. 155 00:08:04,518 --> 00:08:06,787 And I just told her to put it back, 156 00:08:06,887 --> 00:08:09,156 and it went right back onto the shelf. 157 00:08:13,894 --> 00:08:15,696 JOHN BARBOUR (VOICEOVER): I was a total skeptic, couldn't 158 00:08:15,796 --> 00:08:17,665 have been more skeptical. 159 00:08:17,765 --> 00:08:19,933 It would be impossible to be more skeptical than I was. 160 00:08:20,033 --> 00:08:22,335 And I just didn't believe in it. 161 00:08:22,435 --> 00:08:28,108 And then as time went on, the things that happened totally 162 00:08:28,208 --> 00:08:31,144 brought me around to the point of view that it is here. 163 00:08:31,244 --> 00:08:32,412 There's no if, ands, or buts about it. 164 00:08:32,512 --> 00:08:35,448 It happened. 165 00:08:35,549 --> 00:08:37,417 NARRATOR: On the cliff outside the restaurant, 166 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:41,288 some neighborhood children once claimed they saw the Blue Lady. 167 00:08:41,388 --> 00:08:44,224 But she seemed to be a very different kind of ghost, 168 00:08:44,324 --> 00:08:46,860 not the playful spirit who dwelt indoors, 169 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,196 but one with a somber demeanor, concerned 170 00:08:49,296 --> 00:08:50,397 for the children's safety. 171 00:08:53,466 --> 00:08:54,835 Children. 172 00:08:54,935 --> 00:08:56,336 Please. 173 00:08:56,436 --> 00:08:58,038 Please listen. 174 00:08:58,138 --> 00:08:59,539 Go back. 175 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,874 Go away. 176 00:09:00,974 --> 00:09:01,842 It's dangerous. 177 00:09:01,942 --> 00:09:02,876 Please. 178 00:09:02,976 --> 00:09:04,778 Listen. 179 00:09:04,878 --> 00:09:07,180 Hurry. 180 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,217 NARRATOR: The housekeeper of one of the restaurant employees 181 00:09:10,317 --> 00:09:12,653 believes she has met the same spirit, 182 00:09:12,753 --> 00:09:15,488 and that it is definitely not the two-timing flapper 183 00:09:15,589 --> 00:09:16,389 of popular legend. 184 00:09:19,126 --> 00:09:22,362 The first time I see the Blue Lady 185 00:09:22,462 --> 00:09:26,366 is one night, I am very sick. 186 00:09:26,466 --> 00:09:27,935 I have cold, I have fever. 187 00:09:34,608 --> 00:09:39,546 I see one person on the side of my bed. 188 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,208 NARRATOR: The mysterious Blue Lady would soon 189 00:10:08,308 --> 00:10:11,211 reappear, this time, just after Consuelo 190 00:10:11,311 --> 00:10:12,780 had finished showering. 191 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,349 She claims that once again, the spirit asked for her music 192 00:10:16,449 --> 00:10:17,617 and then revealed her name. 193 00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:33,266 NARRATOR: The name "Alma Reed" conjured a dim memory 194 00:10:33,366 --> 00:10:35,335 from Consuelo's childhood. 195 00:10:35,435 --> 00:10:37,604 When she was 10 years old, Consuelo's father 196 00:10:37,705 --> 00:10:39,106 had given her sheet music written 197 00:10:39,206 --> 00:10:41,909 by one of his close friends, Ricardo Palmarin, 198 00:10:42,009 --> 00:10:43,376 a famous Mexican musician. 199 00:10:46,613 --> 00:10:48,448 The song was titled "Peregrina." 200 00:10:48,548 --> 00:10:51,118 It was dedicated to Ricardo's beloved. 201 00:10:51,218 --> 00:10:53,186 Her name was Alma Reed. 202 00:11:00,694 --> 00:11:03,931 According to Consuelo, Alma Reed and Ricardo Palmarin 203 00:11:04,031 --> 00:11:06,133 were star-crossed lovers. 204 00:11:06,233 --> 00:11:08,401 Alma was already married to another man 205 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:12,139 when she fell in love with the handsome musician. 206 00:11:12,239 --> 00:11:15,909 Legend has it that in 1927, she walked into the sea, 207 00:11:16,009 --> 00:11:19,847 preferring death to life without her beloved Ricardo. 208 00:11:19,947 --> 00:11:23,250 Some say she drowned herself off the Northern California coast, 209 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:24,818 not far from Moss Beach. 210 00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:33,060 I became involved with the Blue Lady-- 211 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,295 NARRATOR: Sylvia Browne has a national reputation 212 00:11:35,395 --> 00:11:36,463 as a psychic. 213 00:11:36,563 --> 00:11:37,731 She has worked with the police on 214 00:11:37,831 --> 00:11:40,233 many unsolved criminal cases. 215 00:11:40,333 --> 00:11:43,603 In 1992, the owner of the Moss Beach Distillery 216 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:46,974 asked her to find out just who the Blue Lady was. 217 00:11:47,074 --> 00:11:50,277 And I said, oh, I have more things 218 00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:54,481 to do than to go ghost chasing. 219 00:11:54,581 --> 00:11:56,083 But I said, what the heck? 220 00:11:56,183 --> 00:12:01,989 So after I got up here, I walked in and said, oh my god. 221 00:12:02,089 --> 00:12:06,126 There is a ghost here, and I'm getting the name "Mary 222 00:12:06,226 --> 00:12:08,195 Ann" or "Mary Ellen Morley." 223 00:12:10,831 --> 00:12:15,268 And she seems to be swarthed all in a hat, in blue-- 224 00:12:15,368 --> 00:12:16,469 NARRATOR: The restaurant employees 225 00:12:16,569 --> 00:12:18,839 were surprised when Sylvia came up with a totally 226 00:12:18,939 --> 00:12:20,507 new identity for the Blue Lady. 227 00:12:20,607 --> 00:12:21,674 How old is she? 228 00:12:21,775 --> 00:12:24,812 Maybe, I'd say 26. 229 00:12:24,912 --> 00:12:26,814 NARRATOR: Sylvia went on to say that Mary Ellen 230 00:12:26,914 --> 00:12:28,581 Morley had been killed by crushing 231 00:12:28,681 --> 00:12:31,051 blows to the chest and head. 232 00:12:31,151 --> 00:12:32,920 But her demeanor seems-- 233 00:12:33,020 --> 00:12:37,224 We took that information, went over to the San Mateo County 234 00:12:37,324 --> 00:12:39,960 Vital Statistics and researched documentation 235 00:12:40,060 --> 00:12:42,095 between 1910 and 1930. 236 00:12:42,195 --> 00:12:43,396 And, in fact, came up with the name 237 00:12:43,496 --> 00:12:47,567 that Sylvia Browne had mentioned during dinner-- 238 00:12:47,667 --> 00:12:51,304 Mary Ellen Morley. 239 00:12:51,404 --> 00:12:53,206 My god, Jen, look at this. 240 00:12:53,306 --> 00:12:54,641 What'd you get? 241 00:12:54,741 --> 00:12:56,109 Oh, you're kidding. 242 00:12:56,209 --> 00:12:57,377 "Mrs. Fred W. Morley." 243 00:12:57,477 --> 00:12:59,479 NARRATOR: Jennifer Towner and Jan Mucklestone, 244 00:12:59,579 --> 00:13:02,649 another restaurant employee, dug through the archives 245 00:13:02,749 --> 00:13:04,885 and made an eerie discovery. 246 00:13:04,985 --> 00:13:07,955 Mary Ellen Morley's maiden name was Reed, 247 00:13:08,055 --> 00:13:09,656 and in an astounding coincidence, 248 00:13:09,756 --> 00:13:12,893 she had a sister named Alma. 249 00:13:12,993 --> 00:13:14,094 This is all checking out. 250 00:13:14,194 --> 00:13:15,362 This is just incredible. 251 00:13:15,462 --> 00:13:16,796 NARRATOR: Jennifer and Jan were also 252 00:13:16,897 --> 00:13:18,665 intrigued by the newspaper accounts 253 00:13:18,765 --> 00:13:22,135 of Mary Ellen Morley's death. 254 00:13:22,235 --> 00:13:26,706 When she was killed, it made front page news 255 00:13:26,806 --> 00:13:30,310 in the "Redwood City Standard" as well as the "Times Gazette." 256 00:13:33,780 --> 00:13:36,416 It was really chilling when I came 257 00:13:36,516 --> 00:13:39,486 upon that, because all of a sudden, she became very real. 258 00:13:42,389 --> 00:13:43,623 NARRATOR: Mary Ellen Morley lived 259 00:13:43,723 --> 00:13:47,727 in Redwood City, California, near the San Francisco Bay. 260 00:13:47,827 --> 00:13:50,663 On the day of her death, Mary Ellen and her husband Frederick 261 00:13:50,763 --> 00:13:53,566 had driven north to visit her mother's grave. 262 00:13:53,666 --> 00:13:57,070 The cemetery was 15 miles from the Moss Beach distillery. 263 00:14:01,875 --> 00:14:04,677 Returning home on the Bayshore Highway that same night, 264 00:14:04,777 --> 00:14:07,214 Frederick lost control of his automobile. 265 00:14:07,314 --> 00:14:10,250 It overturned, and Mary Ellen was trapped in the wreckage. 266 00:14:14,254 --> 00:14:15,622 Are you all right? 267 00:14:15,722 --> 00:14:17,090 The car, it's heavy. 268 00:14:17,190 --> 00:14:18,558 Get it off of me. 269 00:14:21,594 --> 00:14:25,332 I'll get you out. 270 00:14:25,432 --> 00:14:26,866 NARRATOR: With her last breath, she 271 00:14:26,967 --> 00:14:30,437 asked Frederick to take care of their three-year-old son Jack. 272 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:31,905 --Jack for me. 273 00:14:45,385 --> 00:14:47,120 NARRATOR: When Frederick Morley heard a car, 274 00:14:47,220 --> 00:14:49,156 he frantically ran for help. 275 00:14:49,256 --> 00:14:52,792 But in the end, he could do nothing to save his wife. 276 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:55,128 The injuries she suffered were crushing blows 277 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:58,098 to the chest and head, the exact injuries 278 00:14:58,198 --> 00:15:01,801 described by Sylvia Browne. 279 00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:04,237 Help me! 280 00:15:04,337 --> 00:15:08,508 You say that you're very tired. 281 00:15:08,608 --> 00:15:09,842 NARRATOR: The owner of the distillery 282 00:15:09,943 --> 00:15:13,580 called Sylvia Browne back to the restaurant for a seance. 283 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,584 Because you've been walking so long. 284 00:15:17,684 --> 00:15:19,286 So cold, so tired. 285 00:15:19,386 --> 00:15:20,553 NARRATOR: Sylvia claimed that Mary 286 00:15:20,653 --> 00:15:22,889 Ellen Morley's spirit was weary from searching 287 00:15:22,990 --> 00:15:24,057 for Jack, her son. 288 00:15:27,227 --> 00:15:29,829 Incredibly, Sylvia also said she saw three 289 00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:32,465 other spirits with Mary Ellen-- 290 00:15:32,565 --> 00:15:34,901 a beautiful blonde named Anna Philbrick, 291 00:15:35,002 --> 00:15:37,837 her dashing lover, John Contina, and Hannah 292 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,406 Elder, a Mennonite woman. 293 00:15:42,475 --> 00:15:44,944 As the seance came to an end, Sylvia 294 00:15:45,045 --> 00:15:47,214 said Mary Ellen warned there would soon 295 00:15:47,314 --> 00:15:48,848 be a fire at the restaurant. 296 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:50,350 SYLVIA BROWNE: --concerned. 297 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:51,651 Is that what you're saying, Mary Ellen? 298 00:15:51,751 --> 00:15:54,821 Four or five days later after this, we had 299 00:15:54,921 --> 00:15:55,888 a fire here in the restaurant. 300 00:15:55,989 --> 00:15:58,858 We had to close the restaurant temporarily. 301 00:15:58,958 --> 00:16:00,593 And that was really eerie. 302 00:16:00,693 --> 00:16:03,330 That was kind of scary. 303 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:07,267 I've moved from a 1 on a scale of 10 of belief 304 00:16:07,367 --> 00:16:10,837 to somewhere in the neighborhood of an 8, I would say, 305 00:16:10,937 --> 00:16:13,540 and a 10 with regard to my Blue Lady. 306 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:14,574 I'm convinced she's here. 307 00:16:17,377 --> 00:16:19,279 NARRATOR: Does the spirit of a beautiful Blue Lady 308 00:16:19,379 --> 00:16:22,015 really haunt the Moss Beach Distillery? 309 00:16:22,115 --> 00:16:24,984 If so, who could she be? 310 00:16:25,085 --> 00:16:26,586 Most people now believe she is Mary 311 00:16:26,686 --> 00:16:28,355 Ellen Morley, the young mother who 312 00:16:28,455 --> 00:16:31,658 died in a tragic car accident. 313 00:16:31,758 --> 00:16:33,326 Others swear that the Blue Lady is 314 00:16:33,426 --> 00:16:37,497 Alma Reed, the ill-fated lover of Ricardo Palmarin. 315 00:16:37,597 --> 00:16:40,367 A few still hold with the original legend 316 00:16:40,467 --> 00:16:42,702 of the beautiful flapper who romanced a piano 317 00:16:42,802 --> 00:16:46,506 player at Frank's Roadhouse. 318 00:16:46,606 --> 00:16:49,809 Perhaps all three women haunt Moss Beach. 319 00:16:49,909 --> 00:16:52,011 Perhaps the Moss Beach Distillery is not only 320 00:16:52,112 --> 00:16:54,681 a watering hole for humans, but a gathering 321 00:16:54,781 --> 00:16:56,716 place for spirits as well. 322 00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:03,890 When we return, a tale of a haunting from a different era. 323 00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:06,126 Some say the spirits from the Civil War 324 00:17:06,226 --> 00:17:10,530 have taken up residence in the Drum Barracks Museum. 325 00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:14,501 [theme music] 326 00:17:21,007 --> 00:17:24,311 NARRATOR: On April 12, 1861, the first tragic shots 327 00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:26,279 of the American Civil War were fired 328 00:17:26,379 --> 00:17:29,316 at Fort Sumter, South Carolina. 329 00:17:29,416 --> 00:17:31,651 Over the next four years, the battle raged 330 00:17:31,751 --> 00:17:34,020 along a thousand-mile front. 331 00:17:34,121 --> 00:17:37,257 Though most of the fighting took place in the Southern states, 332 00:17:37,357 --> 00:17:40,893 the Union war effort eventually spread across the country, 333 00:17:40,993 --> 00:17:43,029 all the way to Wilmington, California. 334 00:17:46,633 --> 00:17:51,037 In 1862, a military installation was established on 60 acres 335 00:17:51,138 --> 00:17:53,440 overlooking Los Angeles Harbor. 336 00:17:53,540 --> 00:17:56,343 Christened the Drum Barracks after an obscure lieutenant 337 00:17:56,443 --> 00:17:59,379 colonel, the facility was a key center for training 338 00:17:59,479 --> 00:18:02,048 and processing troops. 339 00:18:02,149 --> 00:18:03,750 By the end of the war, nearly half 340 00:18:03,850 --> 00:18:06,853 of California's 17,000 Union volunteers 341 00:18:06,953 --> 00:18:08,255 had passed through the barracks. 342 00:18:11,858 --> 00:18:13,793 Today, all that remains of the outpost 343 00:18:13,893 --> 00:18:15,862 is a single building which now houses 344 00:18:15,962 --> 00:18:22,202 a modest museum and some very unlikely tour guides. 345 00:18:22,302 --> 00:18:24,537 I don't call them ghosts, or I don't 346 00:18:24,637 --> 00:18:26,906 call them hauntings, usually. 347 00:18:27,006 --> 00:18:29,976 What I do believe in is we call them spirits. 348 00:18:30,076 --> 00:18:32,579 It's a comfortable feeling. 349 00:18:32,679 --> 00:18:35,315 They don't bother me, and I'm very 350 00:18:35,415 --> 00:18:37,250 comfortable here with them. 351 00:18:37,350 --> 00:18:40,187 You can lock the rooms at night, I do. 352 00:18:40,287 --> 00:18:42,389 I make a check, in fact. 353 00:18:42,489 --> 00:18:44,157 Very religiously, I check all the rooms. 354 00:18:44,257 --> 00:18:45,057 They're locked. 355 00:18:45,158 --> 00:18:45,958 The lights are off. 356 00:18:46,058 --> 00:18:47,460 The shades are down. 357 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,496 And you come here at 8 o'clock in the morning, 358 00:18:49,596 --> 00:18:52,465 and the light in the parlor jolly well might be on, 359 00:18:52,565 --> 00:18:55,635 and then again, it might not, but the shades may be up. 360 00:19:00,207 --> 00:19:03,676 NARRATOR: In 1986, Marge O'Brien was hired to revitalize 361 00:19:03,776 --> 00:19:05,778 the Drum Barracks. 362 00:19:05,878 --> 00:19:08,047 The museum had fallen into disrepair 363 00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:13,720 despite being declared a historic landmark in 1963. 364 00:19:13,820 --> 00:19:16,789 MARGE O'BRIEN (VOICEOVER): It was very dark, very sad 365 00:19:16,889 --> 00:19:18,925 feeling as you walk through. 366 00:19:19,025 --> 00:19:26,533 And it was just a building, just standing here, saying, help me. 367 00:19:26,633 --> 00:19:27,900 NARRATOR: Over the next few months, 368 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,337 Marge and a team of craftsmen and volunteers 369 00:19:30,437 --> 00:19:33,606 worked diligently to overhaul the museum. 370 00:19:33,706 --> 00:19:36,075 The officers' lounge was faithfully restored, 371 00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:38,978 and new displays were installed. 372 00:19:39,078 --> 00:19:43,450 The old building was coming back to life in more ways than one. 373 00:19:47,053 --> 00:19:48,688 MARGE O'BRIEN (VOICEOVER): I'm sitting in my office, 374 00:19:48,788 --> 00:19:51,157 doing the proverbial paper work, and something 375 00:19:51,258 --> 00:19:52,459 will take my attention. 376 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:55,362 Either a window will rattle, the roses will 377 00:19:55,462 --> 00:19:57,730 hit against the windows, the wind possibly, 378 00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:59,699 but something attracts me to the fact 379 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:02,535 that I should be checking something. 380 00:20:02,635 --> 00:20:06,906 [soft thudding] 381 00:20:13,313 --> 00:20:15,882 I will walk over to the parlor. 382 00:20:15,982 --> 00:20:18,285 9 chances out of 10, when I have this feeling, 383 00:20:18,385 --> 00:20:20,687 and I open the door, more likely than not, 384 00:20:20,787 --> 00:20:22,589 the lights on the table are on. 385 00:20:25,892 --> 00:20:29,462 Most times, I will walk up the stairs and check the gun room. 386 00:20:29,562 --> 00:20:32,231 Very often, that too has the lights on 387 00:20:32,332 --> 00:20:33,833 and the window blinds open, even though they 388 00:20:33,933 --> 00:20:35,468 have been closed and down. 389 00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:38,538 Because the rule here is that after every tour, 390 00:20:38,638 --> 00:20:40,307 you pull the shades down, turn off the light, 391 00:20:40,407 --> 00:20:42,909 and lock the door. 392 00:20:43,009 --> 00:20:45,177 Never thought much about ghosts. 393 00:20:45,278 --> 00:20:48,047 I've never inquired about it, never tried 394 00:20:48,147 --> 00:20:51,318 to speak to the dead, never got involved. 395 00:20:51,418 --> 00:20:53,786 Even when I first came here, I took it very lightly. 396 00:20:56,456 --> 00:20:57,690 NARRATOR: Forrest Neal was always 397 00:20:57,790 --> 00:21:00,527 a skeptic when it came to ghosts and the like, 398 00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:03,696 until the summer of 1989. 399 00:21:03,796 --> 00:21:05,164 FORREST NEAL (VOICEOVER): It was on a Monday 400 00:21:05,264 --> 00:21:08,000 morning, museum being closed. 401 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:14,707 I'm here by myself, and I heard someone 402 00:21:14,807 --> 00:21:18,077 walking in one of the hallways. 403 00:21:18,177 --> 00:21:20,146 As it continued, I walked out of my door, 404 00:21:20,246 --> 00:21:21,448 looking down the stairway. 405 00:21:21,548 --> 00:21:23,750 [creaking] 406 00:21:27,086 --> 00:21:29,956 I proceeded down, knowing that someone 407 00:21:30,056 --> 00:21:31,391 was probably in the gift shop, hiding, 408 00:21:31,491 --> 00:21:32,291 waiting for me to leave. 409 00:21:37,464 --> 00:21:39,999 As I went in the gift shop, no one. 410 00:21:43,269 --> 00:21:45,004 When I opened the bathroom, I expected 411 00:21:45,104 --> 00:21:48,408 for something to happen. 412 00:21:48,508 --> 00:21:49,942 There was no one in the bathroom. 413 00:21:55,247 --> 00:21:59,819 And since then, I've become pretty much a believer. 414 00:21:59,919 --> 00:22:04,857 We were up there in the gun room, cleaning, dusting. 415 00:22:04,957 --> 00:22:06,793 NARRATOR: Yasmin works with volunteer groups 416 00:22:06,893 --> 00:22:09,862 who assist in the museum's upkeep. 417 00:22:09,962 --> 00:22:13,966 In 1991, she too began to believe that the Drum Barracks 418 00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:15,635 might, in fact, be haunted. 419 00:22:15,735 --> 00:22:17,437 I think we're done for the day. 420 00:22:17,537 --> 00:22:19,271 Let's go. 421 00:22:19,372 --> 00:22:21,474 YASMIN (VOICEOVER): I put down the blinds, 422 00:22:21,574 --> 00:22:24,477 and turned off the lights, and locked the door, 423 00:22:24,577 --> 00:22:27,346 and left, came downstairs and left the building. 424 00:22:27,447 --> 00:22:28,581 There was nobody around. 425 00:22:28,681 --> 00:22:30,049 You will be back Friday, won't you? 426 00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:30,950 Yeah, sure. 427 00:22:31,050 --> 00:22:32,084 What time? 428 00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:34,186 10: 30, the silver needs polishing. 429 00:22:34,286 --> 00:22:35,488 OK, we'll do that. 430 00:22:35,588 --> 00:22:37,056 YASMIN (VOICEOVER): When I looked up, 431 00:22:37,156 --> 00:22:40,860 I saw the blind in the window that we were working 432 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,294 went up really slow. 433 00:22:42,395 --> 00:22:43,696 Did you just see that? 434 00:22:43,796 --> 00:22:44,597 What? 435 00:22:44,697 --> 00:22:46,032 The blind went up by itself. 436 00:22:46,132 --> 00:22:47,534 YASMIN (VOICEOVER): It gave me the impression 437 00:22:47,634 --> 00:22:51,638 as if someone was holding it, someone was doing it. 438 00:22:54,373 --> 00:22:58,778 To me, a ghost was like Casper the Friendly Ghost, 439 00:22:58,878 --> 00:23:01,948 or some movie, or something. 440 00:23:02,048 --> 00:23:04,551 I guess one doesn't believe in it until they 441 00:23:04,651 --> 00:23:09,489 actually are really convinced. 442 00:23:09,589 --> 00:23:11,257 NARRATOR: Fred Duran is an exterminator 443 00:23:11,357 --> 00:23:13,560 for the city of Los Angeles, and the museum 444 00:23:13,660 --> 00:23:16,328 is among his regular stops. 445 00:23:16,429 --> 00:23:18,531 On one visit in particular, Fred got 446 00:23:18,631 --> 00:23:19,999 all the convincing he needed. 447 00:23:22,702 --> 00:23:25,137 FRED DURAN (VOICEOVER): As I got into the kitchen that morning, 448 00:23:25,237 --> 00:23:26,939 I heard some footsteps behind me, 449 00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:30,076 and I thought it was the caretaker. 450 00:23:30,176 --> 00:23:32,712 MAN: I need to get some water. 451 00:23:32,812 --> 00:23:34,113 Yeah. 452 00:23:34,213 --> 00:23:37,484 FRED DURAN (VOICEOVER): And I didn't pay any attention to it. 453 00:23:37,584 --> 00:23:39,786 Have you seen Maria? 454 00:23:39,886 --> 00:23:42,088 No, no, I haven't seen her. 455 00:23:44,991 --> 00:23:46,459 FRED DURAN (VOICEOVER): As I turned around, 456 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:47,927 there was this guy there. 457 00:23:48,027 --> 00:23:50,296 And I thought it was kind of odd because he was in a Civil 458 00:23:50,396 --> 00:23:56,135 War outfit, and I thought it was the caretaker that lived there. 459 00:23:56,235 --> 00:23:59,305 So as I was going out towards the front of the building 460 00:23:59,405 --> 00:24:03,476 to go out towards my vehicle, I saw the caretaker 461 00:24:03,576 --> 00:24:05,978 there and the workman also. 462 00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:10,617 And I just asked them, I said, hey, the guy that lives 463 00:24:10,717 --> 00:24:12,819 here takes his job seriously. 464 00:24:12,919 --> 00:24:16,222 And they said, you saw the captain's ghost. 465 00:24:16,322 --> 00:24:17,657 And I said, oh, come on, guys. 466 00:24:17,757 --> 00:24:20,660 And they said, no, you actually saw the captain's ghost. 467 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,261 If Fred said he saw it, he saw it. 468 00:24:22,361 --> 00:24:23,395 I have no doubts in that. 469 00:24:23,496 --> 00:24:24,997 Fred's a very honest man. 470 00:24:25,097 --> 00:24:29,301 My reaction is I wonder what the reason was, 471 00:24:29,401 --> 00:24:32,171 at this point in time, why he had to come now, 472 00:24:32,271 --> 00:24:34,306 and why to Fred. 473 00:24:34,406 --> 00:24:38,044 This was the hallway I was talking about. 474 00:24:38,144 --> 00:24:39,846 NARRATOR: Marge O'Brien became determined 475 00:24:39,946 --> 00:24:42,248 to find out who or what had taken up 476 00:24:42,348 --> 00:24:45,351 residence in the Drum Barracks. 477 00:24:45,451 --> 00:24:48,187 In 1991, she asked Barbara Connor, 478 00:24:48,287 --> 00:24:51,758 an internationally recognized psychic, to visit the museum. 479 00:24:51,858 --> 00:24:54,060 Oh, this is the parlor. 480 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,328 She says, we seem to have some creaks and groans. 481 00:24:56,428 --> 00:24:59,465 And I thought, right away, mentally, I thought to myself, 482 00:24:59,566 --> 00:25:01,934 oh, it's an old house, it's just settling. 483 00:25:02,034 --> 00:25:03,736 And I said, well, I've never done it before, 484 00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:05,104 but sure, I'd like to come out. 485 00:25:05,204 --> 00:25:09,609 So we came out and started to go through the barracks. 486 00:25:09,709 --> 00:25:11,477 Often, when I come in, the light is on. 487 00:25:11,578 --> 00:25:13,012 NARRATOR: According to Barbara Connor, 488 00:25:13,112 --> 00:25:15,715 the Drum Barracks was teeming with ghostly activity. 489 00:25:18,484 --> 00:25:20,252 In the officers' lounge, she claims to have 490 00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:23,623 encountered several spirits. 491 00:25:23,723 --> 00:25:26,525 Two were playing cards. 492 00:25:26,626 --> 00:25:30,797 Another stood by the window, peering through the curtains. 493 00:25:30,897 --> 00:25:35,401 But one phantom seemed more forceful than the rest. 494 00:25:35,501 --> 00:25:37,804 BARBARA CONNOR (VOICEOVER): He looked at me, and he says, 495 00:25:37,904 --> 00:25:41,507 I want this chair closer to the fireplace 'cause I'm cold. 496 00:25:41,608 --> 00:25:46,212 And I was telling Marge, I said, this gentleman 497 00:25:46,312 --> 00:25:50,783 that's sitting in this chair here has a foot that his boot 498 00:25:50,883 --> 00:25:52,518 is too tight for him. 499 00:25:52,619 --> 00:25:54,153 What was interesting is my research 500 00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:56,522 showed that Colonel Curtis, who was the commander here 501 00:25:56,623 --> 00:25:59,959 the longest, had frostbitten his left foot when he was fighting 502 00:26:00,059 --> 00:26:02,629 Indians up in Washington. 503 00:26:02,729 --> 00:26:05,865 Right around the ankle above where the nerve endings were 504 00:26:05,965 --> 00:26:09,702 was a great deal of pain, which he suffered much of his life. 505 00:26:09,802 --> 00:26:12,238 He would wear a boot that was a size smaller so 506 00:26:12,338 --> 00:26:14,040 that he could have more control of that foot, 507 00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:16,575 and he dragged it. 508 00:26:16,676 --> 00:26:19,278 There was no way Barbara could have known that when 509 00:26:19,378 --> 00:26:20,379 she walked into the room. 510 00:26:20,479 --> 00:26:22,849 I had just started to uncover this research. 511 00:26:26,786 --> 00:26:29,188 NARRATOR: Upstairs, Barbara Connor continued 512 00:26:29,288 --> 00:26:31,658 to have visions which seemed to explain some 513 00:26:31,758 --> 00:26:33,993 of the strange noises Marge and the staff 514 00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:35,828 had grown familiar with. 515 00:26:35,928 --> 00:26:38,631 There's a little boy sitting here. 516 00:26:38,731 --> 00:26:39,598 [soft thudding] 517 00:26:39,699 --> 00:26:42,401 He's bouncing a ball back and forth. 518 00:26:42,501 --> 00:26:45,171 I told Marge, I said, there's a little boy here, 519 00:26:45,271 --> 00:26:47,940 and he's throwing a ball up against the wall. 520 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,843 And she goes, that's what that is. 521 00:26:50,943 --> 00:26:52,244 And I go, what? 522 00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,847 She says, well, we've heard this thump, thump, thump, 523 00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:56,482 and we couldn't figure out what it is. 524 00:26:56,582 --> 00:26:57,583 And I said, well, that's it. 525 00:26:57,684 --> 00:27:00,152 He's throwing this ball up against the wall. 526 00:27:00,252 --> 00:27:03,089 And I said, if you want him to stop, just tell him to stop, 527 00:27:03,189 --> 00:27:04,056 and he'll stop. 528 00:27:08,127 --> 00:27:11,297 Now I'd like to take you into the storage room. 529 00:27:11,397 --> 00:27:13,099 NARRATOR: As the tour came to an end, 530 00:27:13,199 --> 00:27:15,668 Barbara Connor says she saw the specters 531 00:27:15,768 --> 00:27:20,873 of Colonel Curtis and his officers in a planning session. 532 00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:22,174 BARBARA CONNOR (VOICEOVER): The colonel 533 00:27:22,274 --> 00:27:24,410 was standing there at the table, and when we came in, 534 00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:25,544 he looked at us. 535 00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:27,079 Then all of a sudden, he started looking at a box 536 00:27:27,179 --> 00:27:30,616 over on the side, like he left what he was doing, 537 00:27:30,717 --> 00:27:32,719 and went over, and started digging in this box. 538 00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:35,688 And he turned to me, and mentally, he projected, 539 00:27:35,788 --> 00:27:37,356 he wants his award. 540 00:27:37,456 --> 00:27:38,257 He wants the award. 541 00:27:38,357 --> 00:27:40,526 He's trying to find an award. 542 00:27:40,626 --> 00:27:42,261 And I said, what award? 543 00:27:42,361 --> 00:27:43,429 And he says, I have an award. 544 00:27:43,529 --> 00:27:47,599 I want my award, and I want it on that wall. 545 00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:49,668 MARGE O'BRIEN (VOICEOVER): Well, I had never heard of a plaque 546 00:27:49,769 --> 00:27:52,504 before, and I don't remember anything ever 547 00:27:52,604 --> 00:27:54,440 hanging in that storage room. 548 00:27:54,540 --> 00:27:58,044 But I discovered later that when he left Washington, 549 00:27:58,144 --> 00:28:01,280 Colonel Curtis did receive an award for his work 550 00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:03,549 with the Indians up there. 551 00:28:03,649 --> 00:28:06,853 And possibly, that could have been the plaque. 552 00:28:06,953 --> 00:28:09,288 Commander Curtis, gentlemen, it's time to go home, 553 00:28:09,388 --> 00:28:10,422 lights out. 554 00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:12,524 If you want them back on, that's fine with me. 555 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:20,967 I believe that there's something here. 556 00:28:24,403 --> 00:28:26,238 People ask me, have I seen it? 557 00:28:26,338 --> 00:28:27,840 No, I haven't seen it, and apparently, they 558 00:28:27,940 --> 00:28:30,376 don't talk to me. 559 00:28:30,476 --> 00:28:33,412 And if I'm wrong in talking to spirits, 560 00:28:33,512 --> 00:28:35,014 well then, I'm wrong, because I do. 561 00:28:35,114 --> 00:28:37,716 I've become accustomed to them. 562 00:28:37,817 --> 00:28:40,419 I'm pleased that they're here, if indeed, they are. 563 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,789 Because it means someone with a longer span 564 00:28:42,889 --> 00:28:44,356 here is going to take care of this place, 565 00:28:44,456 --> 00:28:45,491 and it will be taken care of. 566 00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:51,097 NARRATOR: Do the long dead spirits of the Civil War 567 00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:54,166 still roam the Drum Barracks? 568 00:28:54,266 --> 00:28:58,037 At this point, the museum staff has little doubt. 569 00:28:58,137 --> 00:29:01,207 Skeptics might say they have overactive imaginations 570 00:29:01,307 --> 00:29:05,077 or perhaps a fanatic reverence for the past. 571 00:29:05,177 --> 00:29:09,348 But those who've experienced the unguided tour of the museum 572 00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:12,418 believe it as nothing less than a case of living history. 573 00:29:17,857 --> 00:29:20,092 When we return, a young man and woman, 574 00:29:20,192 --> 00:29:22,294 sold as infants by a nurse in Texas, 575 00:29:22,394 --> 00:29:26,232 are searching for their natural mothers. 576 00:29:26,332 --> 00:29:30,102 [theme music] 577 00:29:35,041 --> 00:29:37,743 These three infants were all born in San Antonio, 578 00:29:37,844 --> 00:29:41,780 Texas, between 1959 and 1966. 579 00:29:41,881 --> 00:29:43,715 What they have in common is a connection 580 00:29:43,816 --> 00:29:47,619 to an opportunistic woman, a woman who, according to some, 581 00:29:47,719 --> 00:29:50,789 ran a secret but profitable business in which she sold 582 00:29:50,890 --> 00:29:54,226 babies for more than 20 years. 583 00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:56,128 That questionable enterprise first 584 00:29:56,228 --> 00:29:58,397 came to light when the mother of this infant 585 00:29:58,497 --> 00:29:59,731 began looking for her. 586 00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:07,874 In November of 1959, 18-year-old Dylene Zolikoff 587 00:30:07,974 --> 00:30:11,443 was alone, scared, and seven months pregnant. 588 00:30:11,543 --> 00:30:14,914 She was taken in by a nurse in San Antonio named Ethel Nation. 589 00:30:17,649 --> 00:30:22,454 On January 6, 1960, Dylene gave birth to a healthy baby girl. 590 00:30:22,554 --> 00:30:27,026 Almost immediately, Ethel whisked the infant away. 591 00:30:27,126 --> 00:30:30,829 Ethel stole my baby. 592 00:30:30,930 --> 00:30:35,434 And I searched, I searched, I tried 593 00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:37,970 everything in San Antonio. 594 00:30:40,572 --> 00:30:42,841 I talked to a lawyer. 595 00:30:42,942 --> 00:30:44,877 Ethel wouldn't help me. 596 00:30:44,977 --> 00:30:48,380 I just couldn't find my baby. 597 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,982 NARRATOR: Ethel Nation always denied 598 00:30:50,082 --> 00:30:52,084 that she had anything to do with the disappearance 599 00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:53,685 of Dylene's baby. 600 00:30:53,785 --> 00:30:57,456 But in 1968, Dylene found a photograph of her daughter 601 00:30:57,556 --> 00:30:59,591 in Ethel's house. 602 00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:01,860 It took another 15 years of searching 603 00:31:01,961 --> 00:31:04,196 before Dylene and her daughter were reunited 604 00:31:04,296 --> 00:31:05,131 on national television. 605 00:31:05,231 --> 00:31:06,832 She's so beautiful, isn't she? 606 00:31:06,933 --> 00:31:11,403 When I first saw my daughter, she looked beautiful. 607 00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:12,304 And she smiled. 608 00:31:14,974 --> 00:31:17,376 And I was just overjoyed. 609 00:31:17,476 --> 00:31:22,414 It was so beautiful, after all these years, 610 00:31:22,514 --> 00:31:26,953 I finally found her. 611 00:31:27,053 --> 00:31:29,588 While the story of Dylene Zolikoff and her daughter 612 00:31:29,688 --> 00:31:31,924 has a happy ending, the stories of two 613 00:31:32,024 --> 00:31:34,160 other young people who were sold by Ethel Nation 614 00:31:34,260 --> 00:31:35,995 are far from over. 615 00:31:36,095 --> 00:31:37,964 Perhaps someone in our audience tonight 616 00:31:38,064 --> 00:31:39,865 can help unlock the secrets of their past. 617 00:31:42,668 --> 00:31:46,605 NARRATOR: Scott Merz was born in San Antonio in 1965. 618 00:31:46,705 --> 00:31:49,108 His adoptive parents were unable to have children 619 00:31:49,208 --> 00:31:54,513 and paid Ethel Nation $1,200 for Scott. 620 00:31:54,613 --> 00:31:57,116 Scott grew up knowing he had been adopted. 621 00:31:57,216 --> 00:32:00,452 When he was 10, he began to have an odd, recurring dream which 622 00:32:00,552 --> 00:32:02,754 seemed to be about the mother he never knew 623 00:32:02,854 --> 00:32:04,823 and perhaps the place where he was born. 624 00:32:08,794 --> 00:32:10,096 SCOTT MERZ (VOICEOVER): I remember walking 625 00:32:10,196 --> 00:32:13,832 through the main doorway. 626 00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:17,136 I remember feeling very cold. 627 00:32:20,506 --> 00:32:27,579 I felt like very, very horrible things went on there. 628 00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:32,618 There was a table, and beside this table, 629 00:32:32,718 --> 00:32:40,392 there was a man in a green robe and a lady dressed in white. 630 00:32:40,492 --> 00:32:44,463 I don't know what they were doing there. 631 00:32:44,563 --> 00:32:47,966 When I woke up, I woke up almost screaming. 632 00:32:48,067 --> 00:32:51,270 I was really, really scared. 633 00:32:51,370 --> 00:32:53,639 He said, I was born in that room. 634 00:32:53,739 --> 00:32:56,475 I was born in that room. 635 00:32:56,575 --> 00:33:01,913 And he said, I feel like my birth mother was having 636 00:33:02,014 --> 00:33:05,984 a rough time in her life, and for some reason, 637 00:33:06,085 --> 00:33:12,691 I felt very drawn to her, almost like she was calling me. 638 00:33:12,791 --> 00:33:15,761 NARRATOR: When Scott was 18, he and his adoptive mother Mary 639 00:33:15,861 --> 00:33:18,930 began an intensive search for his natural mother. 640 00:33:19,031 --> 00:33:21,733 Scott's adoption records revealed few clues, 641 00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:25,704 so he and Mary paid a visit to Ethel Nation. 642 00:33:25,804 --> 00:33:27,939 She seemed really nice. 643 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,311 She seemed like she wanted to help. 644 00:33:32,411 --> 00:33:37,749 Then as the times grew on, it got 645 00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:40,586 worse, and worse, and worse. 646 00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:42,554 Ms. Nation, I'd just like to ask you a few more questions. 647 00:33:42,654 --> 00:33:45,857 NARRATOR: Scott and Mary visited Ethel on six occasions. 648 00:33:45,957 --> 00:33:49,361 With each visit, Ethel changed her story. 649 00:33:49,461 --> 00:33:52,431 At various times, she told Scott he had been born in three 650 00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:55,134 different hospitals, but none of them 651 00:33:55,234 --> 00:33:57,636 had his birth records on file. 652 00:33:57,736 --> 00:33:59,938 They had no record of my being born there. 653 00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:01,873 Who said anything about Santa Rosa? 654 00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:03,275 You did. 655 00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:04,543 I never-- you must be mistaken. 656 00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:06,412 I never mentioned Santa Rosa. 657 00:34:06,512 --> 00:34:08,280 You most certainly did. 658 00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:10,249 The last time we came, you told Scotty 659 00:34:10,349 --> 00:34:12,418 he had been born at Santa Rosa. 660 00:34:12,518 --> 00:34:14,386 I sat right here when you said it. 661 00:34:14,486 --> 00:34:16,655 NARRATOR: On the final visit, Ethel became angry 662 00:34:16,755 --> 00:34:19,191 and revealed what she said was the bitter truth 663 00:34:19,291 --> 00:34:21,593 about Scott's mother. 664 00:34:21,693 --> 00:34:23,295 Your mother didn't want you. 665 00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:25,364 Your mother had an abortion. 666 00:34:25,464 --> 00:34:27,199 Your mother was a slut. 667 00:34:27,299 --> 00:34:28,867 Your mother was a whore. 668 00:34:28,967 --> 00:34:31,203 And you want to know why she didn't have the abortion? 669 00:34:31,303 --> 00:34:32,271 Because it was too late. 670 00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:36,442 She told me that I was a bastard child, 671 00:34:36,542 --> 00:34:39,745 that all my mother was was a slut, a whore, 672 00:34:39,845 --> 00:34:44,283 and that I should have no right to even look for her. 673 00:34:44,383 --> 00:34:49,655 So for me to go home and for me to stop looking for her. 674 00:34:49,755 --> 00:34:52,358 NARRATOR: Scott and Mary refused to give up. 675 00:34:52,458 --> 00:34:54,926 They decided to visit yet another place where Ethel said 676 00:34:55,026 --> 00:34:59,665 Scott had been born, a community health center that in 1965, was 677 00:34:59,765 --> 00:35:01,800 known as the Woodlawn Clinic. 678 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:03,068 This is my son Scotty. 679 00:35:03,169 --> 00:35:04,870 SCOTT MERZ (VOICEOVER): The very minute that we walked 680 00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:08,607 in, I was completely stunned. 681 00:35:08,707 --> 00:35:11,810 I couldn't even talk. 682 00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:15,414 The feelings that I got from this were just incredible. 683 00:35:15,514 --> 00:35:19,418 It was very of a morbid type feeling, 684 00:35:19,518 --> 00:35:22,721 but yet, I felt like I had been there before. 685 00:35:22,821 --> 00:35:29,895 And everything in this dream that I had back when I was 10, 686 00:35:29,995 --> 00:35:32,231 it was coming true before my eyes. 687 00:35:32,331 --> 00:35:34,833 MARY MERZ (VOICEOVER): I was scared to death. 688 00:35:34,933 --> 00:35:38,604 He held onto me, I held onto him. 689 00:35:38,704 --> 00:35:40,672 We both cried all the way down the hall. 690 00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:47,946 SCOTT MERZ (VOICEOVER): I was so happy 691 00:35:48,046 --> 00:35:52,551 that it made sense, the dream that I had many years ago. 692 00:35:55,487 --> 00:35:57,055 NARRATOR: Sadly, Scott Merz has still not 693 00:35:57,155 --> 00:35:58,924 found his natural mother. 694 00:35:59,024 --> 00:36:01,026 But through his search, he met a young woman 695 00:36:01,126 --> 00:36:03,662 who had a remarkably similar experience with Ethel Nation. 696 00:36:06,932 --> 00:36:09,935 Dawnette Barker was adopted in July of 1966 697 00:36:10,035 --> 00:36:12,738 by a childless couple from San Antonio. 698 00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:14,506 As a last, desperate resort, they 699 00:36:14,606 --> 00:36:17,376 had approached Ethel Nation after years of trying to adopt 700 00:36:17,476 --> 00:36:18,277 through state agencies. 701 00:36:21,347 --> 00:36:23,615 Dawnette learned that on the night she was adopted, 702 00:36:23,715 --> 00:36:25,817 her parents had to choose between her 703 00:36:25,917 --> 00:36:27,085 and two other infants. 704 00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:31,357 We have these two little boys here that are twins, 705 00:36:31,457 --> 00:36:33,091 and this little girl over here. 706 00:36:33,191 --> 00:36:34,626 Now, of course, you have your choice, 707 00:36:34,726 --> 00:36:37,095 but I would prefer that the boys be kept together 708 00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:38,997 if that's at all possible. 709 00:36:39,097 --> 00:36:42,968 There were bassinets in there with children. 710 00:36:43,068 --> 00:36:46,805 I think there were two twin boys and myself. 711 00:36:46,905 --> 00:36:50,542 My parents, because they didn't expect that things would happen 712 00:36:50,642 --> 00:36:53,679 so quickly, they just thought they were going 713 00:36:53,779 --> 00:36:56,715 to go to see the baby, but at that point, 714 00:36:56,815 --> 00:37:00,419 Mrs. Nation told my parents that they could go ahead 715 00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:01,887 and take me home that night. 716 00:37:01,987 --> 00:37:02,788 We can? 717 00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:04,055 ETHEL NATION: Yes, absolutely. 718 00:37:04,155 --> 00:37:05,657 Honey. 719 00:37:05,757 --> 00:37:07,526 Is there a problem? 720 00:37:07,626 --> 00:37:10,596 Well, ma'am, we don't have the full $1,700. 721 00:37:10,696 --> 00:37:12,731 I thought that had been settled. 722 00:37:12,831 --> 00:37:14,533 Well, ma'am, we just didn't think we'd 723 00:37:14,633 --> 00:37:16,101 be able to take her tonight. 724 00:37:16,201 --> 00:37:17,903 ETHEL NATION: Well, do you have some kind of property? 725 00:37:18,003 --> 00:37:20,372 Do you have anything that you can sell? 726 00:37:20,472 --> 00:37:22,774 How about the boat? 727 00:37:22,874 --> 00:37:24,910 What kind of boat? 728 00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:26,845 It's all right, we'll work something out. 729 00:37:26,945 --> 00:37:28,179 NARRATOR: As payment for Dawnette, 730 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,018 Ethel Nation accepted a 14-foot ski boat worth $1,700. 731 00:37:33,118 --> 00:37:35,053 You can go ahead and take your baby home. 732 00:37:35,153 --> 00:37:37,423 NARRATOR: When she turned 18, Dawnette began to search 733 00:37:37,523 --> 00:37:39,224 for her natural parents. 734 00:37:39,325 --> 00:37:42,828 She found that her mother's name was listed as "Gloria Cantu." 735 00:37:42,928 --> 00:37:46,898 The adoption papers had been notarized by Ethel Nation. 736 00:37:46,998 --> 00:37:48,834 What can I do for you this time? 737 00:37:48,934 --> 00:37:51,370 NARRATOR: Dawnette spoke with Ethel Nation several times 738 00:37:51,470 --> 00:37:54,506 and was finally told the same story as Scott Merz. 739 00:37:54,606 --> 00:37:57,108 Your mother was a tramp. 740 00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:58,109 She didn't want you. 741 00:37:58,209 --> 00:37:59,945 She went there to have an abortion, 742 00:38:00,045 --> 00:38:03,649 but it was just too late to have one. 743 00:38:03,749 --> 00:38:06,217 I don't understand what's happening. 744 00:38:06,318 --> 00:38:07,919 I told you you shouldn't have been messing around 745 00:38:08,019 --> 00:38:08,954 with something like this. 746 00:38:09,054 --> 00:38:11,390 You should have left well enough alone. 747 00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:18,864 I really couldn't understand why or how she could say that. 748 00:38:18,964 --> 00:38:22,167 It hurt. 749 00:38:22,267 --> 00:38:25,003 There is no way of knowing how many babies were sold by Ethel 750 00:38:25,103 --> 00:38:27,706 Nation, who died in 1991. 751 00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:29,908 Scott Merz and Dawnette Barker now 752 00:38:30,008 --> 00:38:32,511 suspect that there may be dozens of other young people 753 00:38:32,611 --> 00:38:36,281 who, like them, will not be able to rest until they are reunited 754 00:38:36,382 --> 00:38:39,518 with their natural mothers. 755 00:38:39,618 --> 00:38:42,688 NARRATOR: Scott Merz was born on August 5, 1965, 756 00:38:42,788 --> 00:38:44,756 in San Antonio, Texas. 757 00:38:44,856 --> 00:38:47,726 His mother's name is listed as Joyce Koehier. 758 00:38:47,826 --> 00:38:50,161 She may have been 22 years old. 759 00:38:50,261 --> 00:38:52,431 Scott's adoptive mother Mary met her once 760 00:38:52,531 --> 00:38:54,866 and recalls that she was thin with dark hair 761 00:38:54,966 --> 00:38:56,167 and an olive complexion. 762 00:38:56,267 --> 00:38:57,869 Is Ethel Nation here? 763 00:38:57,969 --> 00:39:01,006 It's important for me to find her because there's 764 00:39:01,106 --> 00:39:04,610 a certain gap, a certain hole that's inside me, 765 00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:07,345 that I want to fill. 766 00:39:07,446 --> 00:39:10,549 And I think the only way that I can fill this hole is 767 00:39:10,649 --> 00:39:13,652 to be whole myself. 768 00:39:13,752 --> 00:39:17,723 And finding my birth mother will do that. 769 00:39:17,823 --> 00:39:21,059 If she's out there, and she is watching, 770 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:26,197 I just want her to know that I don't want anything from her. 771 00:39:26,297 --> 00:39:28,033 Above all, I don't want to hurt her. 772 00:39:30,702 --> 00:39:33,004 Maybe it's something she's never told anyone 773 00:39:33,104 --> 00:39:36,408 or who she's currently married to if she's married, 774 00:39:36,508 --> 00:39:37,643 but I don't want anything. 775 00:39:37,743 --> 00:39:38,910 No strings attached. 776 00:39:39,010 --> 00:39:42,948 I just want to know what happened and how it happened. 777 00:39:43,048 --> 00:39:47,553 I would never, in any way, want to hurt her. 778 00:39:47,653 --> 00:39:48,787 NARRATOR: Dawnette Barker's birthday 779 00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:52,057 is listed as July 21, 1966, but she may 780 00:39:52,157 --> 00:39:54,025 have been born weeks earlier. 781 00:39:54,125 --> 00:39:56,995 Her mother, Gloria Cantu, may have been 23 years 782 00:39:57,095 --> 00:40:00,699 old when Dawnette was born. 783 00:40:00,799 --> 00:40:03,401 Both Scott Merz and Dawnette Barker-Lussier 784 00:40:03,502 --> 00:40:05,236 may have been born in the Woodlawn Clinic 785 00:40:05,336 --> 00:40:06,638 in San Antonio, Texas. 786 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:13,311 On the right of our broadcast, several viewers 787 00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:15,213 called our telecenter on behalf of Dawnette's 788 00:40:15,313 --> 00:40:19,718 birth mother, Gloria Cantu Martinez of San Antonio, Texas. 789 00:40:19,818 --> 00:40:21,953 A short time later, Dawnette spoke to her mother 790 00:40:22,053 --> 00:40:24,990 for the very first time and learned that Gloria had never 791 00:40:25,090 --> 00:40:27,893 intended to give her up but had been tricked into signing 792 00:40:27,993 --> 00:40:29,728 the adoption papers. 793 00:40:29,828 --> 00:40:32,397 Dawnette was overjoyed to discover that Gloria wanted 794 00:40:32,498 --> 00:40:34,099 to see her as soon as possible. 795 00:40:36,768 --> 00:40:40,472 NARRATOR: On November 9, 1992, Gloria flew to Washington, DC, 796 00:40:40,572 --> 00:40:42,974 for a tearful reunion with Dawnette. 797 00:40:43,074 --> 00:40:46,244 For mother and daughter, it was an emotional end to 26 798 00:40:46,344 --> 00:40:48,146 years of painful separation. 799 00:40:52,383 --> 00:40:53,585 DAWNETTE BARKER LUSSIER (VOICEOVER): 800 00:40:53,685 --> 00:41:00,191 When I was waiting for her to come out from the plane, 801 00:41:00,291 --> 00:41:02,494 a million things were going through my mind. 802 00:41:05,564 --> 00:41:09,968 Just relief that it was over, that I 803 00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:14,673 was finally where I wanted to be after a long time of looking. 804 00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:19,745 GLORIA CANTU MARTINEZ (VOICEOVER): 805 00:41:19,845 --> 00:41:23,815 And I just couldn't believe it, that it 806 00:41:23,915 --> 00:41:30,722 was finally going to happen, what I always wanted. 807 00:41:30,822 --> 00:41:35,661 I've always wanted to find her, and wondered 808 00:41:35,761 --> 00:41:40,065 what she was like, if she was married, if she 809 00:41:40,165 --> 00:41:41,032 had any children. 810 00:41:46,271 --> 00:41:47,606 NARRATOR: The reunion was made even more 811 00:41:47,706 --> 00:41:50,241 special when Gloria met her four grandchildren 812 00:41:50,341 --> 00:41:51,577 for the first time. 813 00:41:51,677 --> 00:41:53,178 Hi, baby. 814 00:41:53,278 --> 00:41:54,079 Hi. 815 00:41:58,149 --> 00:42:00,351 NARRATOR: Dawnette's dream of having her entire family 816 00:42:00,451 --> 00:42:02,187 together had finally come true. 817 00:42:02,287 --> 00:42:03,689 This is Michael. 818 00:42:03,789 --> 00:42:04,656 How are you? 819 00:42:04,756 --> 00:42:05,624 This is Tyler. 820 00:42:13,464 --> 00:42:15,701 Next a woman stricken with amnesia 821 00:42:15,801 --> 00:42:20,238 needs your help in tonight's Special Alert. 822 00:42:20,338 --> 00:42:24,175 [theme music] 823 00:42:28,714 --> 00:42:30,649 Last month, we aired the story of a young man 824 00:42:30,749 --> 00:42:34,052 in San Diego, California, who had no idea who he was 825 00:42:34,152 --> 00:42:35,921 or where he had come from. 826 00:42:36,021 --> 00:42:39,925 In May of 1992, he had wandered into a local homeless shelter, 827 00:42:40,025 --> 00:42:44,996 apparently suffering from complete and total amnesia. 828 00:42:45,096 --> 00:42:47,633 Doctors were baffled by his memory loss. 829 00:42:47,733 --> 00:42:50,936 The only clue to his identity was a Boston library card which 830 00:42:51,036 --> 00:42:52,503 bore the name "Pierre April." 831 00:42:56,341 --> 00:42:57,542 Update. 832 00:42:57,643 --> 00:42:59,911 On the night of our broadcast, a viewer in Canada 833 00:43:00,011 --> 00:43:02,580 called our telecenter to say that the young man had once 834 00:43:02,681 --> 00:43:04,249 worked for his wife, and that his name 835 00:43:04,349 --> 00:43:05,917 is, in fact, Pierre April. 836 00:43:09,220 --> 00:43:11,356 Pierre soon learned that he has two sisters 837 00:43:11,456 --> 00:43:13,258 and that his parents live in Lachine, Canada, 838 00:43:13,358 --> 00:43:16,294 where his father practices medicine. 839 00:43:16,394 --> 00:43:19,064 The next day, they spoke on the phone for the first time 840 00:43:19,164 --> 00:43:21,733 in more than five months. 841 00:43:21,833 --> 00:43:23,735 It was a very emotional moment, 842 00:43:23,835 --> 00:43:27,372 and then I even had to tell him that I couldn't even trust him 843 00:43:27,472 --> 00:43:32,644 100%, that I wanted a package with family pictures in it, 844 00:43:32,744 --> 00:43:34,512 and with my birth certificate in it, 845 00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:37,082 and anything else he could think of. 846 00:43:37,182 --> 00:43:40,686 He said, OK, we'll send that to you. 847 00:43:40,786 --> 00:43:42,553 And then he said, do you remember your mom? 848 00:43:42,654 --> 00:43:44,222 And I said, no. 849 00:43:44,322 --> 00:43:46,958 And she was listening on the extension, 850 00:43:47,058 --> 00:43:50,261 and she burst into tears. 851 00:43:50,361 --> 00:43:52,731 NARRATOR: A few days later, the packet arrived. 852 00:43:52,831 --> 00:43:54,800 Pierre sat down with his fiance, whom 853 00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:57,102 he met in San Diego and a friend, 854 00:43:57,202 --> 00:44:00,672 to get reacquainted with his past. 855 00:44:00,772 --> 00:44:05,310 It is strange to be told who you are and what you did. 856 00:44:05,410 --> 00:44:08,313 I am someone again. 857 00:44:08,413 --> 00:44:13,384 And for quite a few months, I was nobody and nothing. 858 00:44:26,297 --> 00:44:28,066 Shortly after Pierre's story aired, 859 00:44:28,166 --> 00:44:30,736 we were contacted by authorities in Richardson, Texas, 860 00:44:30,836 --> 00:44:33,238 a suburb of Dallas, about another unusual case 861 00:44:33,338 --> 00:44:39,177 of amnesia involving a woman who calls herself Sandra Evans. 862 00:44:39,277 --> 00:44:42,680 There's a wall across my brain, 863 00:44:42,781 --> 00:44:44,415 and it won't let me see the other side. 864 00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:48,019 Occasionally, a snapshot comes through, 865 00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:55,160 and I get a glimpse of a life before, but nothing solid, 866 00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:57,428 nothing concrete. 867 00:44:57,528 --> 00:44:59,998 NARRATOR: On May 14, 1992, Sandra 868 00:45:00,098 --> 00:45:02,033 fainted in a Dallas area bus station 869 00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:04,770 and was transported to a local hospital. 870 00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:07,205 She seemed to be suffering from total amnesia, 871 00:45:07,305 --> 00:45:10,475 and the police were notified. 872 00:45:10,575 --> 00:45:13,544 I did receive numerous phone calls from around the United 873 00:45:13,644 --> 00:45:17,783 States, from law enforcement agencies and citizens 874 00:45:17,883 --> 00:45:19,717 in general, thinking that they may 875 00:45:19,818 --> 00:45:22,487 know who Sandra actually is. 876 00:45:22,587 --> 00:45:24,589 We did follow up on all of the phone 877 00:45:24,689 --> 00:45:28,860 calls we received and were not able to determine 878 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,696 who she actually is. 879 00:45:31,797 --> 00:45:34,933 NARRATOR: This photograph was taken the day Sandra was found. 880 00:45:35,033 --> 00:45:37,035 Initially, she could not remember her name, 881 00:45:37,135 --> 00:45:42,440 and she is still not sure that she truly is Sandra Evans. 882 00:45:42,540 --> 00:45:44,709 In fact, the tag on the luggage she was carrying 883 00:45:44,810 --> 00:45:46,945 had the name "Linda Kennedy" on it. 884 00:45:47,045 --> 00:45:49,180 Sandra says the handwriting is hers 885 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,284 but is certain the name is not. 886 00:45:53,384 --> 00:45:55,453 The strongest clues of Sandra's identity 887 00:45:55,553 --> 00:45:57,956 are several photographs found on the luggage. 888 00:45:58,056 --> 00:46:00,926 There is one of Sandra as a bride. 889 00:46:01,026 --> 00:46:04,229 Another shows two young children. 890 00:46:04,329 --> 00:46:06,297 And finally, a picture of a teenage girl, 891 00:46:06,397 --> 00:46:10,735 which appears to be a high school graduation portrait. 892 00:46:10,836 --> 00:46:13,671 They troubled me. 893 00:46:13,771 --> 00:46:15,540 I didn't want to deal with the thought 894 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,275 if they could be my children. 895 00:46:17,375 --> 00:46:20,011 It was much easier to believe they could be nieces 896 00:46:20,111 --> 00:46:24,182 and nephews because the thought of them being mine 897 00:46:24,282 --> 00:46:28,686 and not knowing where they are, not knowing who they are, 898 00:46:28,786 --> 00:46:35,326 not knowing what conditions that they were in, 899 00:46:35,426 --> 00:46:38,029 was too upsetting. 900 00:46:38,129 --> 00:46:39,364 NARRATOR: At this point, Sandra believes 901 00:46:39,464 --> 00:46:41,967 her amnesia is the result of some traumatic, perhaps 902 00:46:42,067 --> 00:46:43,634 violent experience. 903 00:46:43,734 --> 00:46:46,037 And she is haunted by a vague fear of both 904 00:46:46,137 --> 00:46:50,208 her past and her future. 905 00:46:50,308 --> 00:46:54,946 I am afraid of what I'm going to find on the other side, 906 00:46:55,046 --> 00:46:58,716 because something made me forget it. 907 00:46:58,816 --> 00:47:01,786 I am afraid that if I've had children, 908 00:47:01,887 --> 00:47:03,288 that they won't understand where I've 909 00:47:03,388 --> 00:47:07,025 been for the last five months. 910 00:47:07,125 --> 00:47:12,730 That if I-- my mother must be elderly, if this 911 00:47:12,830 --> 00:47:15,967 is doing something to her. 912 00:47:16,067 --> 00:47:17,135 NARRATOR: Update. 913 00:47:17,235 --> 00:47:19,837 Just moments after this story aired in Canada, 914 00:47:19,938 --> 00:47:21,839 a viewer contacted authorities there 915 00:47:21,940 --> 00:47:24,475 and identified Sandra Evans as her sister Carole 916 00:47:24,575 --> 00:47:27,845 Ann Rozak of London, Ontario. 917 00:47:27,946 --> 00:47:29,647 Carole Ann soon learned that she is divorced, 918 00:47:29,747 --> 00:47:31,849 and that the photographs found in her luggage 919 00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:34,319 were of her two sons, now teenagers, 920 00:47:34,419 --> 00:47:37,422 and her 13-year-old daughter. 921 00:47:37,522 --> 00:47:40,558 When I talked to my daughter, I asked her 922 00:47:40,658 --> 00:47:42,894 about things that we had done. 923 00:47:42,994 --> 00:47:45,630 And she said we did everything together. 924 00:47:45,730 --> 00:47:48,633 She said we were real close. 925 00:47:48,733 --> 00:47:51,402 In fact, the first time I talked to her, 926 00:47:51,502 --> 00:47:55,073 it was more like she was the mother, and I was the daughter. 927 00:47:55,173 --> 00:47:57,976 She was so sweet. 928 00:47:58,076 --> 00:48:02,180 She was so excited to talk to me. 929 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,182 NARRATOR: Even though the information about her past 930 00:48:04,282 --> 00:48:07,485 had nothing to jog her memory, Carole Ann immediately began 931 00:48:07,585 --> 00:48:09,587 packing to return to Canada where 932 00:48:09,687 --> 00:48:12,023 her children, her four sisters, and her brother 933 00:48:12,123 --> 00:48:15,160 would be waiting. 934 00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:18,896 On October 30, 1992, a nervous Carol Ann, 935 00:48:18,997 --> 00:48:21,399 accompanied by friends she had made in Texas, 936 00:48:21,499 --> 00:48:23,734 arrived at the Dallas airport to board a flight that 937 00:48:23,834 --> 00:48:25,536 would take her back to her family 938 00:48:25,636 --> 00:48:29,507 six months after she disappeared. 939 00:48:29,607 --> 00:48:32,243 Oh, yes, I'm happy to go home. 940 00:48:32,343 --> 00:48:34,479 A little nervous, a little nervous, 941 00:48:34,579 --> 00:48:36,514 but I'm happy to be going home. 942 00:48:39,350 --> 00:48:40,986 NARRATOR: Today, Carole Anne lives with her daughter 943 00:48:41,086 --> 00:48:42,587 in Milton, Ontario. 944 00:48:42,687 --> 00:48:45,656 She still has no idea what caused her amnesia 945 00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:48,159 but is currently undergoing therapy in the hope 946 00:48:48,259 --> 00:48:50,761 that someday, she will fully recover her memory. 947 00:49:01,306 --> 00:49:02,873 Join me next time. 948 00:49:02,974 --> 00:49:06,377 Perhaps you may be able to help solve a mystery. 949 00:49:06,477 --> 00:49:10,315 [theme music] 74537

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