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ANNOUNCER: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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NARRATOR: Five weeks
ago, we brought you
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the story of a young man who
was suffering from amnesia
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and living in a homeless
shelter in San Diego.
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Thanks to our viewers, he now
knows who he is he will soon
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be reunited with his family.
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Tonight, the dramatic
conclusion to his story.
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And we'll introduce
you to this woman,
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also suffering from amnesia
and needing your help
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to find out who she is.
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We'll also examine accusations
that a nurse in Texas
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named Ethel Nation sold dozens
of babies to adoptive parents.
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Two of those infants,
who are now adults,
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would like your help to
find their natural parents.
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And finally, with
Halloween almost upon us,
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two tales of things that
go bump in the night.
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NARRATOR: During the
Civil War, this building
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was an important outpost
for the Union Army.
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Today, it is a museum, and
many employees believe some
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of the old soldiers never left.
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This building, an
upscale restaurant,
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known as the Moss
Beach Distillery,
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also has a spectacular
and intriguing past.
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Legend has it that
during the roaring '20s,
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it was a hotbed for loose women,
bathtub gin, racketeering,
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and mobsters.
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Over the years,
eyewitnesses recount
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a series of strange happenings
right here in the distillery--
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eerie sights and sounds that
no matter how hard you try,
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cannot be explained.
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Some believe that the
ghosts of the Roaring '20s
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are still here today,
brewing up spirited mischief
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to make a fascinating and
chilling unsolved mystery.
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[theme music]
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NARRATOR: Moss Beach is
a lonely, windswept cove
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which lies 20 miles
south of San Francisco.
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The Moss Beach Distillery
is perched on a bluff
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overlooking the cove.
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The restaurant's
name pays homage
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to the building's history.
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During the heady
days of prohibition,
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it was a notorious speakeasy.
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In recent years, all
manner of strange goings
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on have been reported at
the Moss Beach Distillery.
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Waitresses swear that cold winds
swirl through the dining room
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when no windows
or doors are open.
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One of the former owners
claims she has seen objects fly
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through the air and
doors lock mysteriously
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of their own accord.
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At last count, as many
as five different ghosts
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have been reported lurking in
and around this restaurant.
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Now I've been here all day, and
I haven't seen a single ghost.
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But over the years,
a lot of other people
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have or say they have.
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And since it's almost
Halloween, the rest of us
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should at least try
to keep an open mind.
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According to local legend,
all this ghostly business
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began some 70 years ago with
a beautiful lady in blue.
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NARRATOR: The Roaring
'20s, flappers,
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fast living, illegal booze.
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Hey, Eddie, tell those
punks to get the lead out.
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NARRATOR: Frank's Roadhouse,
the speakeasy at Moss Beach,
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was a favorite jumping
off point for bootleggers.
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Hey, what took you so long?
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Hey, you want the goods?
You gotta wait for them.
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Let's get this party rolling.
- Nice.
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Hey, Tony.
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Mm, gentlemen, the best
whiskey money can buy,
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fresh off the boat.
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NARRATOR: Franks
was also the setting
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for a legendary love triangle.
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The lady was beautiful.
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She always wore blue.
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The piano player had
eyes only for her.
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But their romance was
conducted in secret
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because the lady in blue
belonged to someone else.
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The lovers communicated
in code, a silent language
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in which the lift of an
eyebrow spoke volumes.
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The lady's husband
was a bootlegger,
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and that night, she
made a serious mistake.
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Unaware that he
would soon arrive,
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she signaled the piano player
to meet her on the beach.
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Moss Beach was a
bootleggers' haven,
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isolated and sheltered
under a cliff
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just outside the speakeasy.
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Seen my wife down here?
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NARRATOR: When the
lady's husband found out
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she had left Frank's Roadhouse,
he made his way to the cove
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and frantically
questioned his cronies.
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Son of a--
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Hey, Mick, keep in the bottle.
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NARRATOR: Suddenly,
the bootlegger
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saw his wife with
the piano player
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and went mad with jealousy.
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Oh.
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No, it's all right.
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Hey, evening, Max.
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- Very bad move, Eddie.
- No, no, no.
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Relax.
- What's wrong with you?
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Why would you do that to me?
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I'm telling you, relax.
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Stay back!
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That's it, right
now, right now.
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Let's go, Max.
NARRATOR: A knife flashed.
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A gun was drawn.
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I'm gonna blow
your brains out!
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NARRATOR: The lady threw herself
between the two men she loved.
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Eddie!
[grunt]
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[groan]
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Lucy.
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Lucy.
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NARRATOR: When the
struggle was over,
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the beautiful lady in blue lay
lifeless, victim of her lover's
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dagger, or so it is said.
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Some will deny that
she ever existed,
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but others will swear
that her ghost haunts
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Moss Beach to this very day.
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Believers claim that just as
the Blue Lady once held court
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inside the speakeasy, her spirit
now pervades the restaurant,
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breathing a chill
wind down the necks
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of women she sees as rivals.
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Moreover, some employees
swear that she calls out
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their names seductively
when they are
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all alone in the dining room.
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BLUE LADY: Bryan.
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She's mischievous.
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A lot of pranks will happen,
a lot of things will go on,
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but I don't think that
any of it is malicious.
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I don't think that anything is
supposed to be hair-raising,
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send you running
out of a building,
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or anything else like that.
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She's good.
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She seems to be a kind
soul, nice spirit.
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It still amazes me that
she still is there and still
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playing tricks on people.
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Every time I come back
and talk to someone,
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they give me the list of all the
things that she's been doing.
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NARRATOR: When Pat
and Dave Andrews owned
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the Moss Beach
Distillery, their family
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lived on the ground floor.
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They say the Blue Lady
seemed to delight in locking
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them out of their rooms.
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[clattering]
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Pat also says that the Blue
Lady liked to play other tricks,
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especially late
at night when Pat
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was all alone in the
restaurant office.
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PATRICIA ANDREWS
(VOICEOVER): My checkbook
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lifted right off the
shelf above my head
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and sailed around,
kind of slowly,
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around in this small room.
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And I just told
her to put it back,
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and it went right
back onto the shelf.
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JOHN BARBOUR (VOICEOVER): I
was a total skeptic, couldn't
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have been more skeptical.
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It would be impossible to be
more skeptical than I was.
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And I just didn't believe in it.
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And then as time went on, the
things that happened totally
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brought me around to the
point of view that it is here.
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There's no if, ands,
or buts about it.
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It happened.
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NARRATOR: On the cliff
outside the restaurant,
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some neighborhood children once
claimed they saw the Blue Lady.
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But she seemed to be a very
different kind of ghost,
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not the playful spirit
who dwelt indoors,
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but one with a somber
demeanor, concerned
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for the children's safety.
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Children.
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Please.
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Please listen.
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Go back.
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Go away.
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It's dangerous.
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Please.
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Listen.
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Hurry.
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NARRATOR: The housekeeper of
one of the restaurant employees
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believes she has
met the same spirit,
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and that it is definitely
not the two-timing flapper
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of popular legend.
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The first time I
see the Blue Lady
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is one night, I am very sick.
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I have cold, I have fever.
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I see one person on
the side of my bed.
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NARRATOR: The mysterious
Blue Lady would soon
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reappear, this time,
just after Consuelo
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had finished showering.
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She claims that once again,
the spirit asked for her music
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and then revealed her name.
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NARRATOR: The name "Alma
Reed" conjured a dim memory
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from Consuelo's childhood.
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When she was 10 years
old, Consuelo's father
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had given her
sheet music written
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by one of his close
friends, Ricardo Palmarin,
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a famous Mexican musician.
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The song was titled "Peregrina."
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It was dedicated to
Ricardo's beloved.
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Her name was Alma Reed.
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According to Consuelo, Alma
Reed and Ricardo Palmarin
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were star-crossed lovers.
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Alma was already
married to another man
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when she fell in love with
the handsome musician.
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Legend has it that in 1927,
she walked into the sea,
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preferring death to life
without her beloved Ricardo.
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Some say she drowned herself off
the Northern California coast,
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not far from Moss Beach.
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I became involved
with the Blue Lady--
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NARRATOR: Sylvia Browne
has a national reputation
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as a psychic.
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She has worked
with the police on
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many unsolved criminal cases.
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In 1992, the owner of
the Moss Beach Distillery
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asked her to find out just
who the Blue Lady was.
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And I said, oh,
I have more things
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to do than to go ghost chasing.
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But I said, what the heck?
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So after I got up here, I
walked in and said, oh my god.
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There is a ghost here, and
I'm getting the name "Mary
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Ann" or "Mary Ellen Morley."
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And she seems to be swarthed
all in a hat, in blue--
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NARRATOR: The
restaurant employees
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were surprised when Sylvia
came up with a totally
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new identity for the Blue Lady.
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How old is she?
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Maybe, I'd say 26.
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NARRATOR: Sylvia went on
to say that Mary Ellen
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Morley had been
killed by crushing
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blows to the chest and head.
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But her demeanor seems--
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We took that information, went
over to the San Mateo County
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Vital Statistics and
researched documentation
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between 1910 and 1930.
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And, in fact, came
up with the name
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that Sylvia Browne had
mentioned during dinner--
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Mary Ellen Morley.
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My god, Jen, look at this.
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What'd you get?
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Oh, you're kidding.
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"Mrs. Fred W. Morley."
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NARRATOR: Jennifer Towner
and Jan Mucklestone,
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another restaurant employee,
dug through the archives
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and made an eerie discovery.
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Mary Ellen Morley's
maiden name was Reed,
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and in an astounding
coincidence,
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she had a sister named Alma.
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This is all checking out.
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This is just incredible.
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NARRATOR: Jennifer
and Jan were also
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intrigued by the
newspaper accounts
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of Mary Ellen Morley's death.
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When she was killed,
it made front page news
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in the "Redwood City Standard"
as well as the "Times Gazette."
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It was really
chilling when I came
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upon that, because all of a
sudden, she became very real.
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NARRATOR: Mary
Ellen Morley lived
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in Redwood City, California,
near the San Francisco Bay.
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On the day of her death, Mary
Ellen and her husband Frederick
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had driven north to
visit her mother's grave.
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The cemetery was 15 miles from
the Moss Beach distillery.
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Returning home on the Bayshore
Highway that same night,
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Frederick lost control
of his automobile.
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It overturned, and Mary Ellen
was trapped in the wreckage.
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Are you all right?
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The car, it's heavy.
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Get it off of me.
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I'll get you out.
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NARRATOR: With her
last breath, she
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asked Frederick to take care of
their three-year-old son Jack.
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--Jack for me.
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NARRATOR: When Frederick
Morley heard a car,
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he frantically ran for help.
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But in the end, he could do
nothing to save his wife.
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The injuries she suffered
were crushing blows
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to the chest and head,
the exact injuries
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described by Sylvia Browne.
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Help me!
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You say that
you're very tired.
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NARRATOR: The owner
of the distillery
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called Sylvia Browne back to
the restaurant for a seance.
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Because you've
been walking so long.
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So cold, so tired.
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NARRATOR: Sylvia
claimed that Mary
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Ellen Morley's spirit
was weary from searching
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for Jack, her son.
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Incredibly, Sylvia
also said she saw three
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other spirits with Mary Ellen--
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a beautiful blonde
named Anna Philbrick,
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her dashing lover, John
Contina, and Hannah
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Elder, a Mennonite woman.
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As the seance came
to an end, Sylvia
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said Mary Ellen warned
there would soon
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be a fire at the restaurant.
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SYLVIA BROWNE: --concerned.
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Is that what you're
saying, Mary Ellen?
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Four or five days
later after this, we had
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a fire here in the restaurant.
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We had to close the
restaurant temporarily.
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And that was really eerie.
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That was kind of scary.
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I've moved from a 1 on
a scale of 10 of belief
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to somewhere in the neighborhood
of an 8, I would say,
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and a 10 with regard
to my Blue Lady.
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I'm convinced she's here.
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NARRATOR: Does the spirit
of a beautiful Blue Lady
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really haunt the Moss
Beach Distillery?
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If so, who could she be?
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Most people now
believe she is Mary
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Ellen Morley, the
young mother who
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died in a tragic car accident.
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Others swear that
the Blue Lady is
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Alma Reed, the ill-fated
lover of Ricardo Palmarin.
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A few still hold with
the original legend
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of the beautiful flapper
who romanced a piano
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player at Frank's Roadhouse.
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Perhaps all three
women haunt Moss Beach.
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Perhaps the Moss Beach
Distillery is not only
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a watering hole for
humans, but a gathering
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place for spirits as well.
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When we return, a tale of a
haunting from a different era.
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Some say the spirits
from the Civil War
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have taken up residence in
the Drum Barracks Museum.
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[theme music]
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NARRATOR: On April 12,
1861, the first tragic shots
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of the American
Civil War were fired
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at Fort Sumter, South Carolina.
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Over the next four
years, the battle raged
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along a thousand-mile front.
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Though most of the fighting took
place in the Southern states,
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the Union war effort eventually
spread across the country,
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all the way to
Wilmington, California.
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In 1862, a military installation
was established on 60 acres
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overlooking Los Angeles Harbor.
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Christened the Drum Barracks
after an obscure lieutenant
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colonel, the facility was
a key center for training
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and processing troops.
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By the end of the
war, nearly half
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of California's 17,000
Union volunteers
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had passed through the barracks.
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Today, all that
remains of the outpost
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is a single building
which now houses
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a modest museum and some
very unlikely tour guides.
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I don't call them
ghosts, or I don't
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call them hauntings, usually.
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What I do believe in is
we call them spirits.
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It's a comfortable feeling.
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They don't bother
me, and I'm very
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comfortable here with them.
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You can lock the
rooms at night, I do.
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I make a check, in fact.
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Very religiously, I
check all the rooms.
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They're locked.
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The lights are off.
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The shades are down.
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And you come here at 8
o'clock in the morning,
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and the light in the parlor
jolly well might be on,
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and then again, it might not,
but the shades may be up.
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NARRATOR: In 1986, Marge
O'Brien was hired to revitalize
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the Drum Barracks.
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The museum had
fallen into disrepair
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despite being declared a
historic landmark in 1963.
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MARGE O'BRIEN (VOICEOVER):
It was very dark, very sad
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feeling as you walk through.
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And it was just a building, just
standing here, saying, help me.
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NARRATOR: Over the
next few months,
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Marge and a team of
craftsmen and volunteers
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worked diligently to
overhaul the museum.
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The officers' lounge
was faithfully restored,
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and new displays were installed.
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The old building was coming back
to life in more ways than one.
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MARGE O'BRIEN (VOICEOVER):
I'm sitting in my office,
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doing the proverbial
paper work, and something
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will take my attention.
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Either a window will
rattle, the roses will
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hit against the windows,
the wind possibly,
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but something attracts
me to the fact
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that I should be
checking something.
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[soft thudding]
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I will walk over to the parlor.
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9 chances out of 10,
when I have this feeling,
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and I open the door,
more likely than not,
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the lights on the table are on.
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Most times, I will walk up the
stairs and check the gun room.
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Very often, that too
has the lights on
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and the window blinds
open, even though they
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have been closed and down.
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Because the rule here is
that after every tour,
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you pull the shades
down, turn off the light,
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and lock the door.
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Never thought
much about ghosts.
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I've never inquired
about it, never tried
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to speak to the dead,
never got involved.
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Even when I first came here,
I took it very lightly.
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NARRATOR: Forrest
Neal was always
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a skeptic when it came
to ghosts and the like,
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until the summer of 1989.
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FORREST NEAL (VOICEOVER):
It was on a Monday
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morning, museum being closed.
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I'm here by myself,
and I heard someone
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walking in one of the hallways.
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As it continued, I
walked out of my door,
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looking down the stairway.
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[creaking]
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I proceeded down,
knowing that someone
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was probably in the
gift shop, hiding,
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waiting for me to leave.
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As I went in the
gift shop, no one.
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When I opened the
bathroom, I expected
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for something to happen.
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There was no one
in the bathroom.
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And since then, I've become
pretty much a believer.
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We were up there in the
gun room, cleaning, dusting.
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NARRATOR: Yasmin works
with volunteer groups
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who assist in the
museum's upkeep.
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In 1991, she too began to
believe that the Drum Barracks
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might, in fact, be haunted.
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I think we're
done for the day.
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Let's go.
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YASMIN (VOICEOVER): I
put down the blinds,
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and turned off the lights,
and locked the door,
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and left, came downstairs
and left the building.
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There was nobody around.
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You will be back
Friday, won't you?
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Yeah, sure.
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What time?
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10: 30, the silver
needs polishing.
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OK, we'll do that.
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YASMIN (VOICEOVER):
When I looked up,
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I saw the blind in the
window that we were working
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went up really slow.
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Did you just see that?
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What?
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The blind went up by itself.
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YASMIN (VOICEOVER): It
gave me the impression
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as if someone was holding
it, someone was doing it.
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To me, a ghost was like
Casper the Friendly Ghost,
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or some movie, or something.
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I guess one doesn't
believe in it until they
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actually are really convinced.
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NARRATOR: Fred Duran
is an exterminator
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for the city of Los
Angeles, and the museum
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is among his regular stops.
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On one visit in
particular, Fred got
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all the convincing he needed.
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FRED DURAN (VOICEOVER): As I got
into the kitchen that morning,
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I heard some
footsteps behind me,
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and I thought it
was the caretaker.
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MAN: I need to get some water.
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Yeah.
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FRED DURAN (VOICEOVER): And I
didn't pay any attention to it.
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Have you seen Maria?
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No, no, I haven't seen her.
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FRED DURAN (VOICEOVER):
As I turned around,
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there was this guy there.
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And I thought it was kind of
odd because he was in a Civil
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War outfit, and I thought it was
the caretaker that lived there.
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So as I was going out towards
the front of the building
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to go out towards my
vehicle, I saw the caretaker
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there and the workman also.
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And I just asked them, I
said, hey, the guy that lives
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here takes his job seriously.
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And they said, you saw
the captain's ghost.
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And I said, oh, come on, guys.
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And they said, no, you actually
saw the captain's ghost.
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If Fred said he
saw it, he saw it.
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I have no doubts in that.
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Fred's a very honest man.
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My reaction is I wonder
what the reason was,
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at this point in time,
why he had to come now,
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and why to Fred.
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This was the hallway
I was talking about.
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NARRATOR: Marge O'Brien
became determined
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to find out who or
what had taken up
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residence in the Drum Barracks.
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In 1991, she asked
Barbara Connor,
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an internationally recognized
psychic, to visit the museum.
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Oh, this is the parlor.
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She says, we seem to have
some creaks and groans.
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And I thought, right away,
mentally, I thought to myself,
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oh, it's an old house,
it's just settling.
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And I said, well, I've
never done it before,
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but sure, I'd like to come out.
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So we came out and started
to go through the barracks.
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Often, when I come
in, the light is on.
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NARRATOR: According
to Barbara Connor,
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the Drum Barracks was teeming
with ghostly activity.
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In the officers' lounge,
she claims to have
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encountered several spirits.
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Two were playing cards.
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Another stood by the window,
peering through the curtains.
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But one phantom seemed more
forceful than the rest.
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BARBARA CONNOR (VOICEOVER):
He looked at me, and he says,
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I want this chair closer to
the fireplace 'cause I'm cold.
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00:25:41,608 --> 00:25:46,212
And I was telling Marge,
I said, this gentleman
497
00:25:46,312 --> 00:25:50,783
that's sitting in this chair
here has a foot that his boot
498
00:25:50,883 --> 00:25:52,518
is too tight for him.
499
00:25:52,619 --> 00:25:54,153
What was interesting
is my research
500
00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:56,522
showed that Colonel Curtis,
who was the commander here
501
00:25:56,623 --> 00:25:59,959
the longest, had frostbitten his
left foot when he was fighting
502
00:26:00,059 --> 00:26:02,629
Indians up in Washington.
503
00:26:02,729 --> 00:26:05,865
Right around the ankle above
where the nerve endings were
504
00:26:05,965 --> 00:26:09,702
was a great deal of pain, which
he suffered much of his life.
505
00:26:09,802 --> 00:26:12,238
He would wear a boot that
was a size smaller so
506
00:26:12,338 --> 00:26:14,040
that he could have more
control of that foot,
507
00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:16,575
and he dragged it.
508
00:26:16,676 --> 00:26:19,278
There was no way Barbara
could have known that when
509
00:26:19,378 --> 00:26:20,379
she walked into the room.
510
00:26:20,479 --> 00:26:22,849
I had just started to
uncover this research.
511
00:26:26,786 --> 00:26:29,188
NARRATOR: Upstairs,
Barbara Connor continued
512
00:26:29,288 --> 00:26:31,658
to have visions which
seemed to explain some
513
00:26:31,758 --> 00:26:33,993
of the strange noises
Marge and the staff
514
00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:35,828
had grown familiar with.
515
00:26:35,928 --> 00:26:38,631
There's a little
boy sitting here.
516
00:26:38,731 --> 00:26:39,598
[soft thudding]
517
00:26:39,699 --> 00:26:42,401
He's bouncing a
ball back and forth.
518
00:26:42,501 --> 00:26:45,171
I told Marge, I said,
there's a little boy here,
519
00:26:45,271 --> 00:26:47,940
and he's throwing a ball
up against the wall.
520
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,843
And she goes,
that's what that is.
521
00:26:50,943 --> 00:26:52,244
And I go, what?
522
00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,847
She says, well, we've heard
this thump, thump, thump,
523
00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:56,482
and we couldn't
figure out what it is.
524
00:26:56,582 --> 00:26:57,583
And I said, well, that's it.
525
00:26:57,684 --> 00:27:00,152
He's throwing this ball
up against the wall.
526
00:27:00,252 --> 00:27:03,089
And I said, if you want him to
stop, just tell him to stop,
527
00:27:03,189 --> 00:27:04,056
and he'll stop.
528
00:27:08,127 --> 00:27:11,297
Now I'd like to take
you into the storage room.
529
00:27:11,397 --> 00:27:13,099
NARRATOR: As the
tour came to an end,
530
00:27:13,199 --> 00:27:15,668
Barbara Connor says
she saw the specters
531
00:27:15,768 --> 00:27:20,873
of Colonel Curtis and his
officers in a planning session.
532
00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:22,174
BARBARA CONNOR
(VOICEOVER): The colonel
533
00:27:22,274 --> 00:27:24,410
was standing there at the
table, and when we came in,
534
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:25,544
he looked at us.
535
00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:27,079
Then all of a sudden, he
started looking at a box
536
00:27:27,179 --> 00:27:30,616
over on the side, like he
left what he was doing,
537
00:27:30,717 --> 00:27:32,719
and went over, and started
digging in this box.
538
00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:35,688
And he turned to me, and
mentally, he projected,
539
00:27:35,788 --> 00:27:37,356
he wants his award.
540
00:27:37,456 --> 00:27:38,257
He wants the award.
541
00:27:38,357 --> 00:27:40,526
He's trying to find an award.
542
00:27:40,626 --> 00:27:42,261
And I said, what award?
543
00:27:42,361 --> 00:27:43,429
And he says, I have an award.
544
00:27:43,529 --> 00:27:47,599
I want my award, and I
want it on that wall.
545
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:49,668
MARGE O'BRIEN (VOICEOVER): Well,
I had never heard of a plaque
546
00:27:49,769 --> 00:27:52,504
before, and I don't
remember anything ever
547
00:27:52,604 --> 00:27:54,440
hanging in that storage room.
548
00:27:54,540 --> 00:27:58,044
But I discovered later that
when he left Washington,
549
00:27:58,144 --> 00:28:01,280
Colonel Curtis did receive
an award for his work
550
00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:03,549
with the Indians up there.
551
00:28:03,649 --> 00:28:06,853
And possibly, that could
have been the plaque.
552
00:28:06,953 --> 00:28:09,288
Commander Curtis, gentlemen,
it's time to go home,
553
00:28:09,388 --> 00:28:10,422
lights out.
554
00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:12,524
If you want them back
on, that's fine with me.
555
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:20,967
I believe that there's
something here.
556
00:28:24,403 --> 00:28:26,238
People ask me, have I seen it?
557
00:28:26,338 --> 00:28:27,840
No, I haven't seen it,
and apparently, they
558
00:28:27,940 --> 00:28:30,376
don't talk to me.
559
00:28:30,476 --> 00:28:33,412
And if I'm wrong in
talking to spirits,
560
00:28:33,512 --> 00:28:35,014
well then, I'm
wrong, because I do.
561
00:28:35,114 --> 00:28:37,716
I've become accustomed to them.
562
00:28:37,817 --> 00:28:40,419
I'm pleased that they're
here, if indeed, they are.
563
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,789
Because it means someone
with a longer span
564
00:28:42,889 --> 00:28:44,356
here is going to take
care of this place,
565
00:28:44,456 --> 00:28:45,491
and it will be taken care of.
566
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:51,097
NARRATOR: Do the long dead
spirits of the Civil War
567
00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:54,166
still roam the Drum Barracks?
568
00:28:54,266 --> 00:28:58,037
At this point, the museum
staff has little doubt.
569
00:28:58,137 --> 00:29:01,207
Skeptics might say they
have overactive imaginations
570
00:29:01,307 --> 00:29:05,077
or perhaps a fanatic
reverence for the past.
571
00:29:05,177 --> 00:29:09,348
But those who've experienced
the unguided tour of the museum
572
00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:12,418
believe it as nothing less
than a case of living history.
573
00:29:17,857 --> 00:29:20,092
When we return, a
young man and woman,
574
00:29:20,192 --> 00:29:22,294
sold as infants by
a nurse in Texas,
575
00:29:22,394 --> 00:29:26,232
are searching for
their natural mothers.
576
00:29:26,332 --> 00:29:30,102
[theme music]
577
00:29:35,041 --> 00:29:37,743
These three infants were
all born in San Antonio,
578
00:29:37,844 --> 00:29:41,780
Texas, between 1959 and 1966.
579
00:29:41,881 --> 00:29:43,715
What they have in
common is a connection
580
00:29:43,816 --> 00:29:47,619
to an opportunistic woman, a
woman who, according to some,
581
00:29:47,719 --> 00:29:50,789
ran a secret but profitable
business in which she sold
582
00:29:50,890 --> 00:29:54,226
babies for more than 20 years.
583
00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:56,128
That questionable
enterprise first
584
00:29:56,228 --> 00:29:58,397
came to light when the
mother of this infant
585
00:29:58,497 --> 00:29:59,731
began looking for her.
586
00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:07,874
In November of 1959,
18-year-old Dylene Zolikoff
587
00:30:07,974 --> 00:30:11,443
was alone, scared, and
seven months pregnant.
588
00:30:11,543 --> 00:30:14,914
She was taken in by a nurse in
San Antonio named Ethel Nation.
589
00:30:17,649 --> 00:30:22,454
On January 6, 1960, Dylene gave
birth to a healthy baby girl.
590
00:30:22,554 --> 00:30:27,026
Almost immediately, Ethel
whisked the infant away.
591
00:30:27,126 --> 00:30:30,829
Ethel stole my baby.
592
00:30:30,930 --> 00:30:35,434
And I searched, I
searched, I tried
593
00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:37,970
everything in San Antonio.
594
00:30:40,572 --> 00:30:42,841
I talked to a lawyer.
595
00:30:42,942 --> 00:30:44,877
Ethel wouldn't help me.
596
00:30:44,977 --> 00:30:48,380
I just couldn't find my baby.
597
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,982
NARRATOR: Ethel
Nation always denied
598
00:30:50,082 --> 00:30:52,084
that she had anything to
do with the disappearance
599
00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:53,685
of Dylene's baby.
600
00:30:53,785 --> 00:30:57,456
But in 1968, Dylene found a
photograph of her daughter
601
00:30:57,556 --> 00:30:59,591
in Ethel's house.
602
00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:01,860
It took another 15
years of searching
603
00:31:01,961 --> 00:31:04,196
before Dylene and her
daughter were reunited
604
00:31:04,296 --> 00:31:05,131
on national television.
605
00:31:05,231 --> 00:31:06,832
She's so beautiful, isn't she?
606
00:31:06,933 --> 00:31:11,403
When I first saw my daughter,
she looked beautiful.
607
00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:12,304
And she smiled.
608
00:31:14,974 --> 00:31:17,376
And I was just overjoyed.
609
00:31:17,476 --> 00:31:22,414
It was so beautiful,
after all these years,
610
00:31:22,514 --> 00:31:26,953
I finally found her.
611
00:31:27,053 --> 00:31:29,588
While the story of Dylene
Zolikoff and her daughter
612
00:31:29,688 --> 00:31:31,924
has a happy ending,
the stories of two
613
00:31:32,024 --> 00:31:34,160
other young people who
were sold by Ethel Nation
614
00:31:34,260 --> 00:31:35,995
are far from over.
615
00:31:36,095 --> 00:31:37,964
Perhaps someone in
our audience tonight
616
00:31:38,064 --> 00:31:39,865
can help unlock the
secrets of their past.
617
00:31:42,668 --> 00:31:46,605
NARRATOR: Scott Merz was
born in San Antonio in 1965.
618
00:31:46,705 --> 00:31:49,108
His adoptive parents were
unable to have children
619
00:31:49,208 --> 00:31:54,513
and paid Ethel Nation
$1,200 for Scott.
620
00:31:54,613 --> 00:31:57,116
Scott grew up knowing
he had been adopted.
621
00:31:57,216 --> 00:32:00,452
When he was 10, he began to have
an odd, recurring dream which
622
00:32:00,552 --> 00:32:02,754
seemed to be about the
mother he never knew
623
00:32:02,854 --> 00:32:04,823
and perhaps the place
where he was born.
624
00:32:08,794 --> 00:32:10,096
SCOTT MERZ (VOICEOVER):
I remember walking
625
00:32:10,196 --> 00:32:13,832
through the main doorway.
626
00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:17,136
I remember feeling very cold.
627
00:32:20,506 --> 00:32:27,579
I felt like very, very
horrible things went on there.
628
00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:32,618
There was a table,
and beside this table,
629
00:32:32,718 --> 00:32:40,392
there was a man in a green robe
and a lady dressed in white.
630
00:32:40,492 --> 00:32:44,463
I don't know what
they were doing there.
631
00:32:44,563 --> 00:32:47,966
When I woke up, I woke
up almost screaming.
632
00:32:48,067 --> 00:32:51,270
I was really, really scared.
633
00:32:51,370 --> 00:32:53,639
He said, I was
born in that room.
634
00:32:53,739 --> 00:32:56,475
I was born in that room.
635
00:32:56,575 --> 00:33:01,913
And he said, I feel like
my birth mother was having
636
00:33:02,014 --> 00:33:05,984
a rough time in her life,
and for some reason,
637
00:33:06,085 --> 00:33:12,691
I felt very drawn to her,
almost like she was calling me.
638
00:33:12,791 --> 00:33:15,761
NARRATOR: When Scott was 18,
he and his adoptive mother Mary
639
00:33:15,861 --> 00:33:18,930
began an intensive search
for his natural mother.
640
00:33:19,031 --> 00:33:21,733
Scott's adoption records
revealed few clues,
641
00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:25,704
so he and Mary paid a
visit to Ethel Nation.
642
00:33:25,804 --> 00:33:27,939
She seemed really nice.
643
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,311
She seemed like
she wanted to help.
644
00:33:32,411 --> 00:33:37,749
Then as the times
grew on, it got
645
00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:40,586
worse, and worse, and worse.
646
00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:42,554
Ms. Nation, I'd just like to
ask you a few more questions.
647
00:33:42,654 --> 00:33:45,857
NARRATOR: Scott and Mary
visited Ethel on six occasions.
648
00:33:45,957 --> 00:33:49,361
With each visit, Ethel
changed her story.
649
00:33:49,461 --> 00:33:52,431
At various times, she told
Scott he had been born in three
650
00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:55,134
different hospitals,
but none of them
651
00:33:55,234 --> 00:33:57,636
had his birth records on file.
652
00:33:57,736 --> 00:33:59,938
They had no record
of my being born there.
653
00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:01,873
Who said anything
about Santa Rosa?
654
00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:03,275
You did.
655
00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:04,543
I never-- you
must be mistaken.
656
00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:06,412
I never mentioned Santa Rosa.
657
00:34:06,512 --> 00:34:08,280
You most certainly did.
658
00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:10,249
The last time we
came, you told Scotty
659
00:34:10,349 --> 00:34:12,418
he had been born at Santa Rosa.
660
00:34:12,518 --> 00:34:14,386
I sat right here
when you said it.
661
00:34:14,486 --> 00:34:16,655
NARRATOR: On the final
visit, Ethel became angry
662
00:34:16,755 --> 00:34:19,191
and revealed what she
said was the bitter truth
663
00:34:19,291 --> 00:34:21,593
about Scott's mother.
664
00:34:21,693 --> 00:34:23,295
Your mother didn't want you.
665
00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:25,364
Your mother had an abortion.
666
00:34:25,464 --> 00:34:27,199
Your mother was a slut.
667
00:34:27,299 --> 00:34:28,867
Your mother was a whore.
668
00:34:28,967 --> 00:34:31,203
And you want to know why she
didn't have the abortion?
669
00:34:31,303 --> 00:34:32,271
Because it was too late.
670
00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:36,442
She told me that I
was a bastard child,
671
00:34:36,542 --> 00:34:39,745
that all my mother was
was a slut, a whore,
672
00:34:39,845 --> 00:34:44,283
and that I should have no
right to even look for her.
673
00:34:44,383 --> 00:34:49,655
So for me to go home and for
me to stop looking for her.
674
00:34:49,755 --> 00:34:52,358
NARRATOR: Scott and
Mary refused to give up.
675
00:34:52,458 --> 00:34:54,926
They decided to visit yet
another place where Ethel said
676
00:34:55,026 --> 00:34:59,665
Scott had been born, a community
health center that in 1965, was
677
00:34:59,765 --> 00:35:01,800
known as the Woodlawn Clinic.
678
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:03,068
This is my son Scotty.
679
00:35:03,169 --> 00:35:04,870
SCOTT MERZ (VOICEOVER): The
very minute that we walked
680
00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:08,607
in, I was completely stunned.
681
00:35:08,707 --> 00:35:11,810
I couldn't even talk.
682
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:15,414
The feelings that I got from
this were just incredible.
683
00:35:15,514 --> 00:35:19,418
It was very of a
morbid type feeling,
684
00:35:19,518 --> 00:35:22,721
but yet, I felt like I
had been there before.
685
00:35:22,821 --> 00:35:29,895
And everything in this dream
that I had back when I was 10,
686
00:35:29,995 --> 00:35:32,231
it was coming true
before my eyes.
687
00:35:32,331 --> 00:35:34,833
MARY MERZ (VOICEOVER):
I was scared to death.
688
00:35:34,933 --> 00:35:38,604
He held onto me,
I held onto him.
689
00:35:38,704 --> 00:35:40,672
We both cried all the
way down the hall.
690
00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:47,946
SCOTT MERZ (VOICEOVER):
I was so happy
691
00:35:48,046 --> 00:35:52,551
that it made sense, the dream
that I had many years ago.
692
00:35:55,487 --> 00:35:57,055
NARRATOR: Sadly, Scott
Merz has still not
693
00:35:57,155 --> 00:35:58,924
found his natural mother.
694
00:35:59,024 --> 00:36:01,026
But through his search,
he met a young woman
695
00:36:01,126 --> 00:36:03,662
who had a remarkably similar
experience with Ethel Nation.
696
00:36:06,932 --> 00:36:09,935
Dawnette Barker was
adopted in July of 1966
697
00:36:10,035 --> 00:36:12,738
by a childless couple
from San Antonio.
698
00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:14,506
As a last, desperate
resort, they
699
00:36:14,606 --> 00:36:17,376
had approached Ethel Nation
after years of trying to adopt
700
00:36:17,476 --> 00:36:18,277
through state agencies.
701
00:36:21,347 --> 00:36:23,615
Dawnette learned that on
the night she was adopted,
702
00:36:23,715 --> 00:36:25,817
her parents had to
choose between her
703
00:36:25,917 --> 00:36:27,085
and two other infants.
704
00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:31,357
We have these two little
boys here that are twins,
705
00:36:31,457 --> 00:36:33,091
and this little girl over here.
706
00:36:33,191 --> 00:36:34,626
Now, of course, you
have your choice,
707
00:36:34,726 --> 00:36:37,095
but I would prefer that
the boys be kept together
708
00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:38,997
if that's at all possible.
709
00:36:39,097 --> 00:36:42,968
There were bassinets
in there with children.
710
00:36:43,068 --> 00:36:46,805
I think there were two
twin boys and myself.
711
00:36:46,905 --> 00:36:50,542
My parents, because they didn't
expect that things would happen
712
00:36:50,642 --> 00:36:53,679
so quickly, they just
thought they were going
713
00:36:53,779 --> 00:36:56,715
to go to see the baby,
but at that point,
714
00:36:56,815 --> 00:37:00,419
Mrs. Nation told my parents
that they could go ahead
715
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:01,887
and take me home that night.
716
00:37:01,987 --> 00:37:02,788
We can?
717
00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:04,055
ETHEL NATION: Yes, absolutely.
718
00:37:04,155 --> 00:37:05,657
Honey.
719
00:37:05,757 --> 00:37:07,526
Is there a problem?
720
00:37:07,626 --> 00:37:10,596
Well, ma'am, we don't
have the full $1,700.
721
00:37:10,696 --> 00:37:12,731
I thought that
had been settled.
722
00:37:12,831 --> 00:37:14,533
Well, ma'am, we
just didn't think we'd
723
00:37:14,633 --> 00:37:16,101
be able to take her tonight.
724
00:37:16,201 --> 00:37:17,903
ETHEL NATION: Well, do you
have some kind of property?
725
00:37:18,003 --> 00:37:20,372
Do you have anything
that you can sell?
726
00:37:20,472 --> 00:37:22,774
How about the boat?
727
00:37:22,874 --> 00:37:24,910
What kind of boat?
728
00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:26,845
It's all right, we'll
work something out.
729
00:37:26,945 --> 00:37:28,179
NARRATOR: As payment
for Dawnette,
730
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,018
Ethel Nation accepted a
14-foot ski boat worth $1,700.
731
00:37:33,118 --> 00:37:35,053
You can go ahead and
take your baby home.
732
00:37:35,153 --> 00:37:37,423
NARRATOR: When she turned
18, Dawnette began to search
733
00:37:37,523 --> 00:37:39,224
for her natural parents.
734
00:37:39,325 --> 00:37:42,828
She found that her mother's name
was listed as "Gloria Cantu."
735
00:37:42,928 --> 00:37:46,898
The adoption papers had been
notarized by Ethel Nation.
736
00:37:46,998 --> 00:37:48,834
What can I do
for you this time?
737
00:37:48,934 --> 00:37:51,370
NARRATOR: Dawnette spoke with
Ethel Nation several times
738
00:37:51,470 --> 00:37:54,506
and was finally told the
same story as Scott Merz.
739
00:37:54,606 --> 00:37:57,108
Your mother was a tramp.
740
00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:58,109
She didn't want you.
741
00:37:58,209 --> 00:37:59,945
She went there to
have an abortion,
742
00:38:00,045 --> 00:38:03,649
but it was just too
late to have one.
743
00:38:03,749 --> 00:38:06,217
I don't understand
what's happening.
744
00:38:06,318 --> 00:38:07,919
I told you you shouldn't
have been messing around
745
00:38:08,019 --> 00:38:08,954
with something like this.
746
00:38:09,054 --> 00:38:11,390
You should have left
well enough alone.
747
00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:18,864
I really couldn't understand
why or how she could say that.
748
00:38:18,964 --> 00:38:22,167
It hurt.
749
00:38:22,267 --> 00:38:25,003
There is no way of knowing how
many babies were sold by Ethel
750
00:38:25,103 --> 00:38:27,706
Nation, who died in 1991.
751
00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:29,908
Scott Merz and
Dawnette Barker now
752
00:38:30,008 --> 00:38:32,511
suspect that there may be
dozens of other young people
753
00:38:32,611 --> 00:38:36,281
who, like them, will not be able
to rest until they are reunited
754
00:38:36,382 --> 00:38:39,518
with their natural mothers.
755
00:38:39,618 --> 00:38:42,688
NARRATOR: Scott Merz was
born on August 5, 1965,
756
00:38:42,788 --> 00:38:44,756
in San Antonio, Texas.
757
00:38:44,856 --> 00:38:47,726
His mother's name is
listed as Joyce Koehier.
758
00:38:47,826 --> 00:38:50,161
She may have been 22 years old.
759
00:38:50,261 --> 00:38:52,431
Scott's adoptive mother
Mary met her once
760
00:38:52,531 --> 00:38:54,866
and recalls that she
was thin with dark hair
761
00:38:54,966 --> 00:38:56,167
and an olive complexion.
762
00:38:56,267 --> 00:38:57,869
Is Ethel Nation here?
763
00:38:57,969 --> 00:39:01,006
It's important for me to
find her because there's
764
00:39:01,106 --> 00:39:04,610
a certain gap, a certain
hole that's inside me,
765
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:07,345
that I want to fill.
766
00:39:07,446 --> 00:39:10,549
And I think the only way
that I can fill this hole is
767
00:39:10,649 --> 00:39:13,652
to be whole myself.
768
00:39:13,752 --> 00:39:17,723
And finding my birth
mother will do that.
769
00:39:17,823 --> 00:39:21,059
If she's out there,
and she is watching,
770
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:26,197
I just want her to know that I
don't want anything from her.
771
00:39:26,297 --> 00:39:28,033
Above all, I don't
want to hurt her.
772
00:39:30,702 --> 00:39:33,004
Maybe it's something
she's never told anyone
773
00:39:33,104 --> 00:39:36,408
or who she's currently
married to if she's married,
774
00:39:36,508 --> 00:39:37,643
but I don't want anything.
775
00:39:37,743 --> 00:39:38,910
No strings attached.
776
00:39:39,010 --> 00:39:42,948
I just want to know what
happened and how it happened.
777
00:39:43,048 --> 00:39:47,553
I would never, in any
way, want to hurt her.
778
00:39:47,653 --> 00:39:48,787
NARRATOR: Dawnette
Barker's birthday
779
00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:52,057
is listed as July
21, 1966, but she may
780
00:39:52,157 --> 00:39:54,025
have been born weeks earlier.
781
00:39:54,125 --> 00:39:56,995
Her mother, Gloria Cantu,
may have been 23 years
782
00:39:57,095 --> 00:40:00,699
old when Dawnette was born.
783
00:40:00,799 --> 00:40:03,401
Both Scott Merz and
Dawnette Barker-Lussier
784
00:40:03,502 --> 00:40:05,236
may have been born in
the Woodlawn Clinic
785
00:40:05,336 --> 00:40:06,638
in San Antonio, Texas.
786
00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:13,311
On the right of our
broadcast, several viewers
787
00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:15,213
called our telecenter
on behalf of Dawnette's
788
00:40:15,313 --> 00:40:19,718
birth mother, Gloria Cantu
Martinez of San Antonio, Texas.
789
00:40:19,818 --> 00:40:21,953
A short time later,
Dawnette spoke to her mother
790
00:40:22,053 --> 00:40:24,990
for the very first time and
learned that Gloria had never
791
00:40:25,090 --> 00:40:27,893
intended to give her up but
had been tricked into signing
792
00:40:27,993 --> 00:40:29,728
the adoption papers.
793
00:40:29,828 --> 00:40:32,397
Dawnette was overjoyed to
discover that Gloria wanted
794
00:40:32,498 --> 00:40:34,099
to see her as soon as possible.
795
00:40:36,768 --> 00:40:40,472
NARRATOR: On November 9, 1992,
Gloria flew to Washington, DC,
796
00:40:40,572 --> 00:40:42,974
for a tearful reunion
with Dawnette.
797
00:40:43,074 --> 00:40:46,244
For mother and daughter, it
was an emotional end to 26
798
00:40:46,344 --> 00:40:48,146
years of painful separation.
799
00:40:52,383 --> 00:40:53,585
DAWNETTE BARKER
LUSSIER (VOICEOVER):
800
00:40:53,685 --> 00:41:00,191
When I was waiting for her
to come out from the plane,
801
00:41:00,291 --> 00:41:02,494
a million things were
going through my mind.
802
00:41:05,564 --> 00:41:09,968
Just relief that
it was over, that I
803
00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:14,673
was finally where I wanted to
be after a long time of looking.
804
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:19,745
GLORIA CANTU
MARTINEZ (VOICEOVER):
805
00:41:19,845 --> 00:41:23,815
And I just couldn't
believe it, that it
806
00:41:23,915 --> 00:41:30,722
was finally going to happen,
what I always wanted.
807
00:41:30,822 --> 00:41:35,661
I've always wanted to
find her, and wondered
808
00:41:35,761 --> 00:41:40,065
what she was like, if
she was married, if she
809
00:41:40,165 --> 00:41:41,032
had any children.
810
00:41:46,271 --> 00:41:47,606
NARRATOR: The reunion
was made even more
811
00:41:47,706 --> 00:41:50,241
special when Gloria met
her four grandchildren
812
00:41:50,341 --> 00:41:51,577
for the first time.
813
00:41:51,677 --> 00:41:53,178
Hi, baby.
814
00:41:53,278 --> 00:41:54,079
Hi.
815
00:41:58,149 --> 00:42:00,351
NARRATOR: Dawnette's dream
of having her entire family
816
00:42:00,451 --> 00:42:02,187
together had finally come true.
817
00:42:02,287 --> 00:42:03,689
This is Michael.
818
00:42:03,789 --> 00:42:04,656
How are you?
819
00:42:04,756 --> 00:42:05,624
This is Tyler.
820
00:42:13,464 --> 00:42:15,701
Next a woman
stricken with amnesia
821
00:42:15,801 --> 00:42:20,238
needs your help in
tonight's Special Alert.
822
00:42:20,338 --> 00:42:24,175
[theme music]
823
00:42:28,714 --> 00:42:30,649
Last month, we aired
the story of a young man
824
00:42:30,749 --> 00:42:34,052
in San Diego, California,
who had no idea who he was
825
00:42:34,152 --> 00:42:35,921
or where he had come from.
826
00:42:36,021 --> 00:42:39,925
In May of 1992, he had wandered
into a local homeless shelter,
827
00:42:40,025 --> 00:42:44,996
apparently suffering from
complete and total amnesia.
828
00:42:45,096 --> 00:42:47,633
Doctors were baffled
by his memory loss.
829
00:42:47,733 --> 00:42:50,936
The only clue to his identity
was a Boston library card which
830
00:42:51,036 --> 00:42:52,503
bore the name "Pierre April."
831
00:42:56,341 --> 00:42:57,542
Update.
832
00:42:57,643 --> 00:42:59,911
On the night of our
broadcast, a viewer in Canada
833
00:43:00,011 --> 00:43:02,580
called our telecenter to say
that the young man had once
834
00:43:02,681 --> 00:43:04,249
worked for his wife,
and that his name
835
00:43:04,349 --> 00:43:05,917
is, in fact, Pierre April.
836
00:43:09,220 --> 00:43:11,356
Pierre soon learned
that he has two sisters
837
00:43:11,456 --> 00:43:13,258
and that his parents
live in Lachine, Canada,
838
00:43:13,358 --> 00:43:16,294
where his father
practices medicine.
839
00:43:16,394 --> 00:43:19,064
The next day, they spoke on
the phone for the first time
840
00:43:19,164 --> 00:43:21,733
in more than five months.
841
00:43:21,833 --> 00:43:23,735
It was a very
emotional moment,
842
00:43:23,835 --> 00:43:27,372
and then I even had to tell him
that I couldn't even trust him
843
00:43:27,472 --> 00:43:32,644
100%, that I wanted a package
with family pictures in it,
844
00:43:32,744 --> 00:43:34,512
and with my birth
certificate in it,
845
00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:37,082
and anything else
he could think of.
846
00:43:37,182 --> 00:43:40,686
He said, OK, we'll
send that to you.
847
00:43:40,786 --> 00:43:42,553
And then he said, do
you remember your mom?
848
00:43:42,654 --> 00:43:44,222
And I said, no.
849
00:43:44,322 --> 00:43:46,958
And she was listening
on the extension,
850
00:43:47,058 --> 00:43:50,261
and she burst into tears.
851
00:43:50,361 --> 00:43:52,731
NARRATOR: A few days
later, the packet arrived.
852
00:43:52,831 --> 00:43:54,800
Pierre sat down with
his fiance, whom
853
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:57,102
he met in San
Diego and a friend,
854
00:43:57,202 --> 00:44:00,672
to get reacquainted
with his past.
855
00:44:00,772 --> 00:44:05,310
It is strange to be told
who you are and what you did.
856
00:44:05,410 --> 00:44:08,313
I am someone again.
857
00:44:08,413 --> 00:44:13,384
And for quite a few months,
I was nobody and nothing.
858
00:44:26,297 --> 00:44:28,066
Shortly after
Pierre's story aired,
859
00:44:28,166 --> 00:44:30,736
we were contacted by authorities
in Richardson, Texas,
860
00:44:30,836 --> 00:44:33,238
a suburb of Dallas, about
another unusual case
861
00:44:33,338 --> 00:44:39,177
of amnesia involving a woman
who calls herself Sandra Evans.
862
00:44:39,277 --> 00:44:42,680
There's a wall
across my brain,
863
00:44:42,781 --> 00:44:44,415
and it won't let me
see the other side.
864
00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:48,019
Occasionally, a
snapshot comes through,
865
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:55,160
and I get a glimpse of a life
before, but nothing solid,
866
00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:57,428
nothing concrete.
867
00:44:57,528 --> 00:44:59,998
NARRATOR: On May
14, 1992, Sandra
868
00:45:00,098 --> 00:45:02,033
fainted in a Dallas
area bus station
869
00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:04,770
and was transported
to a local hospital.
870
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:07,205
She seemed to be suffering
from total amnesia,
871
00:45:07,305 --> 00:45:10,475
and the police were notified.
872
00:45:10,575 --> 00:45:13,544
I did receive numerous phone
calls from around the United
873
00:45:13,644 --> 00:45:17,783
States, from law enforcement
agencies and citizens
874
00:45:17,883 --> 00:45:19,717
in general, thinking
that they may
875
00:45:19,818 --> 00:45:22,487
know who Sandra actually is.
876
00:45:22,587 --> 00:45:24,589
We did follow up
on all of the phone
877
00:45:24,689 --> 00:45:28,860
calls we received and
were not able to determine
878
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,696
who she actually is.
879
00:45:31,797 --> 00:45:34,933
NARRATOR: This photograph was
taken the day Sandra was found.
880
00:45:35,033 --> 00:45:37,035
Initially, she could
not remember her name,
881
00:45:37,135 --> 00:45:42,440
and she is still not sure that
she truly is Sandra Evans.
882
00:45:42,540 --> 00:45:44,709
In fact, the tag on the
luggage she was carrying
883
00:45:44,810 --> 00:45:46,945
had the name "Linda
Kennedy" on it.
884
00:45:47,045 --> 00:45:49,180
Sandra says the
handwriting is hers
885
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,284
but is certain the name is not.
886
00:45:53,384 --> 00:45:55,453
The strongest clues
of Sandra's identity
887
00:45:55,553 --> 00:45:57,956
are several photographs
found on the luggage.
888
00:45:58,056 --> 00:46:00,926
There is one of
Sandra as a bride.
889
00:46:01,026 --> 00:46:04,229
Another shows two
young children.
890
00:46:04,329 --> 00:46:06,297
And finally, a picture
of a teenage girl,
891
00:46:06,397 --> 00:46:10,735
which appears to be a high
school graduation portrait.
892
00:46:10,836 --> 00:46:13,671
They troubled me.
893
00:46:13,771 --> 00:46:15,540
I didn't want to
deal with the thought
894
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,275
if they could be my children.
895
00:46:17,375 --> 00:46:20,011
It was much easier to
believe they could be nieces
896
00:46:20,111 --> 00:46:24,182
and nephews because the
thought of them being mine
897
00:46:24,282 --> 00:46:28,686
and not knowing where they
are, not knowing who they are,
898
00:46:28,786 --> 00:46:35,326
not knowing what conditions
that they were in,
899
00:46:35,426 --> 00:46:38,029
was too upsetting.
900
00:46:38,129 --> 00:46:39,364
NARRATOR: At this
point, Sandra believes
901
00:46:39,464 --> 00:46:41,967
her amnesia is the result
of some traumatic, perhaps
902
00:46:42,067 --> 00:46:43,634
violent experience.
903
00:46:43,734 --> 00:46:46,037
And she is haunted by
a vague fear of both
904
00:46:46,137 --> 00:46:50,208
her past and her future.
905
00:46:50,308 --> 00:46:54,946
I am afraid of what I'm going
to find on the other side,
906
00:46:55,046 --> 00:46:58,716
because something
made me forget it.
907
00:46:58,816 --> 00:47:01,786
I am afraid that if
I've had children,
908
00:47:01,887 --> 00:47:03,288
that they won't
understand where I've
909
00:47:03,388 --> 00:47:07,025
been for the last five months.
910
00:47:07,125 --> 00:47:12,730
That if I-- my mother
must be elderly, if this
911
00:47:12,830 --> 00:47:15,967
is doing something to her.
912
00:47:16,067 --> 00:47:17,135
NARRATOR: Update.
913
00:47:17,235 --> 00:47:19,837
Just moments after this
story aired in Canada,
914
00:47:19,938 --> 00:47:21,839
a viewer contacted
authorities there
915
00:47:21,940 --> 00:47:24,475
and identified Sandra
Evans as her sister Carole
916
00:47:24,575 --> 00:47:27,845
Ann Rozak of London, Ontario.
917
00:47:27,946 --> 00:47:29,647
Carole Ann soon learned
that she is divorced,
918
00:47:29,747 --> 00:47:31,849
and that the photographs
found in her luggage
919
00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:34,319
were of her two
sons, now teenagers,
920
00:47:34,419 --> 00:47:37,422
and her 13-year-old daughter.
921
00:47:37,522 --> 00:47:40,558
When I talked to my
daughter, I asked her
922
00:47:40,658 --> 00:47:42,894
about things that we had done.
923
00:47:42,994 --> 00:47:45,630
And she said we did
everything together.
924
00:47:45,730 --> 00:47:48,633
She said we were real close.
925
00:47:48,733 --> 00:47:51,402
In fact, the first
time I talked to her,
926
00:47:51,502 --> 00:47:55,073
it was more like she was the
mother, and I was the daughter.
927
00:47:55,173 --> 00:47:57,976
She was so sweet.
928
00:47:58,076 --> 00:48:02,180
She was so excited
to talk to me.
929
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,182
NARRATOR: Even though the
information about her past
930
00:48:04,282 --> 00:48:07,485
had nothing to jog her memory,
Carole Ann immediately began
931
00:48:07,585 --> 00:48:09,587
packing to return
to Canada where
932
00:48:09,687 --> 00:48:12,023
her children, her four
sisters, and her brother
933
00:48:12,123 --> 00:48:15,160
would be waiting.
934
00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:18,896
On October 30, 1992,
a nervous Carol Ann,
935
00:48:18,997 --> 00:48:21,399
accompanied by friends
she had made in Texas,
936
00:48:21,499 --> 00:48:23,734
arrived at the Dallas airport
to board a flight that
937
00:48:23,834 --> 00:48:25,536
would take her
back to her family
938
00:48:25,636 --> 00:48:29,507
six months after
she disappeared.
939
00:48:29,607 --> 00:48:32,243
Oh, yes, I'm happy to go home.
940
00:48:32,343 --> 00:48:34,479
A little nervous,
a little nervous,
941
00:48:34,579 --> 00:48:36,514
but I'm happy to be going home.
942
00:48:39,350 --> 00:48:40,986
NARRATOR: Today, Carole
Anne lives with her daughter
943
00:48:41,086 --> 00:48:42,587
in Milton, Ontario.
944
00:48:42,687 --> 00:48:45,656
She still has no idea
what caused her amnesia
945
00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:48,159
but is currently undergoing
therapy in the hope
946
00:48:48,259 --> 00:48:50,761
that someday, she will
fully recover her memory.
947
00:49:01,306 --> 00:49:02,873
Join me next time.
948
00:49:02,974 --> 00:49:06,377
Perhaps you may be able
to help solve a mystery.
949
00:49:06,477 --> 00:49:10,315
[theme music]
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