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[music playing]
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This program is about
unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK: Tonight on the
season premiere of "Unsolved
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Mysteries," 25 years ago
something odd fell from the sky
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and crashed in the remote woods
near Kecksburg, Pennsylvania.
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The official Air Force report
states that nothing was found.
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But eyewitnesses claim a
strange, cone shaped object was
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secretly removed Was it their
imagination or a government
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cover up?
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In California, an
unknown arsonist
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set this house on fire, then
callously videotaped the blaze
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and left the tape near a
highway for authorities to find.
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Last season, we
interviewed LeVar Bates,
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a coworker of a suspect captured
thanks to one of our viewers.
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Incredibly, that
chance interview
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led to a reunion between LeVar
and the daughter he never knew
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existed.
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Watch closely.
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You may be able to
help solve a mystery.
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Twilight, December ninth, 1965.
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A brilliant light
streaked through the skies
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over Canada and the
Northeastern United States.
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Thousands of
eyewitnesses reported
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seeing its trail, which
was visible for hundreds
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of miles in every direction.
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Near the village of Kecksburg,
Pennsylvania, 40 miles
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southeast of Pittsburgh, Robb
Landy and his brother Ray
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were out riding their bicycles.
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RAY LANDY (VOICEOVER): We
were riding up the road
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and we just happened to
look up into the sky.
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And we saw this thing coming
over the tops of the trees.
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It just glided right
across the sky,
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like across the
horizon of the trees.
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We could see and then it
disappeared behind the trees.
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It scared us.
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We didn't know what
it was or didn't
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know what to think about it.
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Just like dumbfounded,
we were just
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like in awe as we watched it.
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Then it disappeared.
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We ran.
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You knew what an
airplane looked like.
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You knew what a
helicopter looked like.
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And that didn't
look like anything
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we had ever seen before.
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And the angle that
it was coming in,
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I mean you knew that it
had to hit the ground.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Three miles away
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another local boy, Randy
Overly, also saw the object.
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RANDY OVERLY (VOICEOVER): I was
playing by a creek at the time
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and heard a deep hissing noise,
and I looked up in the sky
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and saw an object coming at
me from a pretty good distance
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away.
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It flew right over
top of me, no higher
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in the air than 200 feet.
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It was going no faster than
a small airplane would go.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Nearby, Nevin and Nadine Kalp
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were playing outside
when the object flew
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overhead and apparently crashed
in a wooded ravine half a mile
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away.
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This ball of like
fire come through.
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It's something that
I've never seen
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before and never seen since.
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And seeing the smoke
then at that time,
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down in the holler there.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
For the strange object,
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that ravine was the end of
a long and highly visible
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trajectory.
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But for the residents of
Kecksburg, Pennsylvania,
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the mystery was just beginning.
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For the next 25 years,
townspeople would grapple
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with a perplexing question.
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What fell from the sky
that December night?
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Dozens of people, most of
them still alive today,
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were eyewitnesses.
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For the first time, 10 of them
agreed to come together, make
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their identities public, and
tell the story of a night
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that they will never forget.
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FRANCES KALP (VOICEOVER):
While you're up,
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will you turn on
the radio, please?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): After
Nevin and Nadine Kalp returned
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home, their mother heard
an emergency appeal
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on the local radio station.
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OK, we're back.
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Now this just in.
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We got a report of a downed
plane in the Kecksburg area.
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State police have
asked that anyone--
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The radio said something
had been sighted.
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And they were
calling around trying
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to find out if anyone had an
airplane or something missing.
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So I called in and told
them it was no airplane.
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It was just a small
piece that had fallen off
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an airplane, because smoke
had came up from the area
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where it landed.
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And I said it burnt up.
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FRANCES KALP (ON
PHONE): That landed
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right out here near my farm.
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Yes, it did.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
radio announcer thanked Frances
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Kalp for the information.
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She hung up and put
the matter out of mind.
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[phone ringing]
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FRANCES KALP (ON PHONE): Hello.
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FRANCES KALP (VOICEOVER):
Within a matter
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of two or three minutes,
I got a call from a man
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from the US Navy.
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And he told me that I
was to watch the area.
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should anything strange
develop to call this number.
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I asked, well, shouldn't
I call the fire company,
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and he said no.
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You call us, and
we'll call them.
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So I hung up from
talking to him and went
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to call a girl friend of mine.
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And I didn't get about
two sentences out to her
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when an operator come
on and cleared the line
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with an emergency call.
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FRANCES KALP (ON
PHONE): OK, operator.
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That turned out to
be the state police.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Pennsylvania State
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troopers were on the
scene within 15 minutes.
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They were accompanied by
two men in civilian clothes
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who never identified themselves.
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It went down over there.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
By now there was no smoke,
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and the fading light
made it difficult to pin
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down the crash site.
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FRANCES KALP (VOICEOVER): At
this point, two of the men
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took a box and went walking
towards those trees.
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And I said to this state
trooper that was there, I said,
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what are all these
people coming for?
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And he says, well, they think
they're going to see something.
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But when this goes out of here,
nobody is going to see it.
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And I said, well,
maybe it isn't in here.
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He said, it's here.
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And I asked him how he knew and
they said, it's the radiation.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Located less than a mile
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from Kecksburg
village, the ravine
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runs east to west for 800 yards,
cutting across several farms.
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The object appeared to
crash here, more than a half
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mile from the Kalps' home.
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As darkness fell, several
other search teams
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left Kecksburg, also trying
to locate the crash site.
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Just keep going straight.
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When you get to that
road, make a right.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Volunteer fireman Jim Mayes
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led one team of state
troopers to a promontory
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overlooking the ravine.
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JIM MAYES (VOICEOVER):
We went up this road
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and came to the brow
of a hill and stopped.
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And down to the
right in the hollow
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were these blue flashing lights.
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You see that light?
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What is that?
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JIM MAYES (VOICEOVER): It wasn't
searcher's down in the woods
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with flashlights or anything.
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It was a real bright
blue, real bright,
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like an electric welder.
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The flashes seem to be timed.
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At what intervals, I don't know.
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But it was a timed thing.
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It wasn't like flash bulbs
or anything like that.
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At that point the troopers
decided to close the area
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off, close the roads off.
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So he brought the two of
us that was with him back
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to the fire station.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Meanwhile, a call
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went out to all the
local fire departments.
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Soon more than 30 volunteer
firemen had gathered
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at the Kecksburg station.
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OK, guys listen up.
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There's a plane
down over the hill.
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And what we're going to do
is split up into quadrants.
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We'll have teams of
three men, all right?
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Romansky, Bill,
you come with me.
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Rezzy, you get your
men, get out of here.
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Tom, take your unit.
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Now, I'm not sure.
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But I think--
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JAMES ROMANSKY
(VOICEOVER): We all
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gathered at the fire station.
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And the report was we
had a aircraft that
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was down in the Kecksburg area.
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Yeah, I saw it as
I was driving over.
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Whatever it is, it's burning.
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And after we got our
assignment and everybody knew
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what they were doing, they took
us in pickup trucks up the road
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up here.
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And they dropped us
off at certain points
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going up the hill.
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Watch your step.
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I'll be all right
as soon as I got--
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JAMES ROMANSKY (VOICEOVER):
As we were proceeding
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through our grid, we
heard the first team,
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which was down in front
of us, radio back,
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we found the aircraft.
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Where is it?
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We're below the [inaudible]
farm in [inaudible].
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Let's search down there.
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10-4.
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Well, man, we booked out of
ours, and down over the fence
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we went, down into the woods.
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And we got there.
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What is that?
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I don't know.
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JAMES ROMANSKY
(VOICEOVER): Here was
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this humongous metal object,
half buried in the ground.
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About six, seven,
eight foot around,
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and it was every bit of
eight, 10, 12 foot long.
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And to me, the object looked
exactly like a fresh acorn
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that you pick off of a tree.
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There were no wings.
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There were no motors.
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There were no propellers.
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There was no
identification whatsoever
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that would identify it as a
aircraft that I would know.
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There was a bumper on
the bottom part of it.
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On that bumper, there
was what I call,
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it looked to me like the
ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics.
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It was markings like
stars and shapes
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and figures and
circles and lines.
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And what it was, I don't know.
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To this day, I've never
seen anything like it.
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I've studied the ancient Incas.
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I've studied the
ancient Aztec Indians.
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I've studied the Egyptians.
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I've looked at pictures
of Russian writing.
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I've looked at pictures
of Polish writing.
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I've looked at pictures
of Hebrew writing--
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nothing, nothing
that resembles it--
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Chinese writing, no.
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So we're all standing
around this thing,
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looking around, checking and
everything, and wondering
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what the heck it could be.
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And finally, here come two
men down through the woods.
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Gentlemen, you
must leave the area.
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This site is quarantined.
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JAMES ROMANSKY
(VOICEOVER): And they
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took one look at the object and
immediately told us to leave.
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They said, this area
is now quarantined.
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We are in charge.
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We're taking command.
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Get out of here.
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So we start walking
out of there,
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and down through the
woods, here comes military.
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So we left there.
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And by the time we got back
down here to the fire hall,
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I mean this place was
wall-to-wall military.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Within three hours of the crash,
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military personnel had
set up a command center
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in the Kecksburg fire station.
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They promptly restricted
civilian movement in the area.
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Good evening, y'all.
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We need this building
here for a temporary
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tactical headquarters, with
your permission, of course.
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You have phones here?
Can we see where they are?
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JIM MAYES (VOICEOVER): It seemed
like they were on the scene
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immediately.
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I would imagine there
was in a neighborhood
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of 25, 30 military.
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At the time it
seemed like that they
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were really anxious
to get into the scene
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of whatever may have been.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): An hour
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later, the military
authorities also commandeered
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a farmhouse near the ravine.
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Ten-hut.
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Folks are here.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Lillian Hayes
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and her family had been living
in the house for just a month.
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LILLIAN HAYES (VOICEOVER):
Well, the military
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was coming in and out
of my house all evening.
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And they were making
a lot of phone calls,
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and they were standing
around in groups talking.
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That's a roger.
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We believe we've
located the ravine.
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We estimate contact
within 10 minutes.
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I have no idea
who they telephoned.
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There was no calls
turned up on my bill.
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Notify NASA.
Put them on standby.
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And let the Pentagon
know what's going on.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The village
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of Kecksburg, with a
population of just 250,
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appeared to have been
invaded, first from the sky
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and then by the United
States military.
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Soon hundreds of
curious spectators
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gathered on nearby roads
to try and get a glimpse
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of the mysterious object.
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19-year-old Bill
Weaver was among them.
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BILL WEAVER
(VOICEOVER): I happened
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to come down through Kecksburg.
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And I heard on the radio
that an object had landed.
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Seeing some people and some
cars alongside the road,
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I pulled in.
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And there was a pretty
good crowd of people
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gathered in that field.
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And they were looking down in
the small ravine at some trees.
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Hey, what's going
on down there?
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BILL WEAVER (VOICEOVER): I
looked down in there myself.
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I seen there was
something down in there
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that had bright
lights on it, but I
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couldn't see the object itself.
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Some time later, I
seen a box truck,
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a van type truck pull up there.
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There were some men come
around the side of it.
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They were dressed in moon suits,
we called them at the time.
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And they had a
light-colored box,
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I'm guessing roughly
five foot square.
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They carried it down
into the ravine.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The box
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Bill Weaver saw seemed too
small to hold the object itself.
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Was there something or
something inside the object
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that the military
wanted to remove?
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Please don't be alarmed.
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Everything is under control.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Before long, an army
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officer appeared on the scene.
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He ordered the
crowd to disperse.
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Thank you, but you'll have
to leave the area now.
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Hey, hey, what's
going on down there?
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You'll have to
leave the area now.
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BILL WEAVER (VOICEOVER): He
told me unless I moved my car
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and got out of there that
they would confiscate my car.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Back
in Kecksburg, Jim Romansky
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and the other fireman
had still not been
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allowed inside the firehouse.
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The military continued to
occupy it as a control center.
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We looked up, and here comes
this jeep down over the hill
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with its red light on.
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Right behind the jeep was
a large flatbed truck.
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And on the back of the flatbed
was this covered object.
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They come down
here so fast that I
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know if you'd have walked
out in front of it,
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they'd have ran you over.
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They'd have never stopped.
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And off down the road they
went, and where they went,
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I have no idea.
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Whatever came
down in Kecksburg
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that night is of high importance
to the military agencies.
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The most mysterious thing
about the whole case
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is the fact that after
25 years, the government
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still refuses to give us
any actual information
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on what occurred.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Stan Gordon
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is a local researcher
who has spent
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more than 10 years
interviewing dozens
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of Kecksburg eyewitnesses.
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He has explored
several theories trying
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to answer the questions raised
on that December night in 1965.
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STAN GORDON
(VOICEOVER): Astronomers
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who looked into the case
at the time basically felt
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that the object in question
was a bolide, which was a very
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bright, fireball-type meteor.
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And they, in fact,
eliminated reports
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that it could have been
some type of man-made device
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that re-entered the
Earth's atmosphere.
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But we now know the thing
basically was coming down
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from the tip of
Ontario and was passing
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down basically in a Northwest
to Southeast trajectory.
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The object appeared to
have made about a 25
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degree turn toward the
east, near Cleveland, Ohio.
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And it came in on a straight
path over the Pittsburgh area.
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And the interesting thing is
now that the new data suggests
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that the object made a
turn towards the South,
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and then the object made
another turn towards the village
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of Kecksburg where it
was proceeding into there
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towards the Northeast.
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The interesting
thing is the fact
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that within several
miles of the crash site,
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multiple witnesses tell
us that this object
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was coming in at a very,
very slow speed of descent.
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Meteors do not make
controlled turns.
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They do not come in at
a slow speed like this.
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And they, in fact, do
not glide in, which
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this thing apparently did.
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JIM MAYES (VOICEOVER)
My personal opinion
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what landed in
Kecksburg that night
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was a capsule of some kind.
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From where, whether it was
one of ours or a foreign,
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I have no idea.
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The military wouldn't
let us get to the scene,
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so I have no idea.
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But I know it wasn't a meteor.
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Two, one, zero.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Another theory
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is that the object
was space debris.
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In 1965, NASA was involved
in the Gemini program.
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Then as now, it was
our government's policy
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to monitor not only
US space activity,
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but also launches
from the Soviet
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Union and all other countries.
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STAN GORDON (VOICEOVER):
Going back into the records
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we have from NASA and documents
we have from other agencies,
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they apparently have no
loggings for any type
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of space debris on that date and
the time of this observation.
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So we also have to look at
the other possibility-- could
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this indeed have been an
extraterrestrial spacecraft?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Space debris, meteor, or a
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genuine extraterrestrial craft?
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The final answer to what
was found in the ravine
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may only be known by
the military personnel
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who worked in the Kecksburg
recovery operation.
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This is a copy of the
official Air Force record
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of the Kecksburg
incident, which Stan
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Gordon obtained through the
Freedom of Information Act.
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STAN GORDON
(VOICEOVER): The report
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indicated that there was
quite a lot of interest
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by government agencies as to
what the object may have been.
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There were memos there and
requests for information
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from Houston Space
Center, from NORAD,
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from the Air Force command
post, the Pentagon,
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even the Chairman of
the Office of Emergency
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Planning requested information.
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The official Air
Force explanation was
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that it was likely a meteor.
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And basically what
it goes on to say
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is the fact that the search
was called off around 2:00
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AM says nothing was found.
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But evidence indicates
that something
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indeed was found at the site.
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The military's idea of finding
nothing is completely false.
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There was something down
in that ravine that night.
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There was something that
glowed an awful bright light.
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And they took
something out of there.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Another eyewitness
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reported seeing
a military convoy
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coming out of the ravine.
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At the end of the convoy
was a flatbed truck
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with a large covered
object on the back.
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John Hays was only 10
years old when the truck
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rumbled by his bedroom window.
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What was on the back
of it, I have no idea.
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It was about the size
of a Volkswagen Beetle
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from the distance I was at.
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Gentlemen, you
must leave the area.
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This site is quarantined.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to Stan Gordon,
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eyewitnesses identified
the military unit
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as the Air Force's 662nd Radar
Squadron based in Pittsburgh.
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Gordon believes the unit was
part of a top secret operation
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00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:04,857
investigating UFOs.
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STAN GORDON (VOICEOVER): There
is no entry at all for December
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9th of 1965 in the December
log of all activities
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for that squadron.
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00:22:12,565 --> 00:22:15,201
That tells us that
somebody apparently
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wanted to keep all
information associated
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with the unit's
involvement in that site
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away from public information.
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I think that we can very
plainly see the fact
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that the government has
not told us everything they
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know about the Kecksburg case.
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JAMES ROMANSKY (VOICEOVER):
The official reports
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that the military
and the government
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put out, as far as I'm
concerned, are a bunch of bull.
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If this thing was a meteorite,
then why didn't they just bring
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it out and say here it is.
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Let the reporters
take pictures of it.
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Let the firemen see it.
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00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:52,539
Let the people in
this area see it.
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Why the big mystery?
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I think when we get down to
eliminating everything we've
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known about the object,
we have two possibilities
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00:23:01,113 --> 00:23:02,381
we're dealing with here.
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00:23:02,482 --> 00:23:05,251
Either one that we're dealing
with some highly advanced space
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00:23:05,351 --> 00:23:07,920
probe, probably of
a foreign nation,
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that appears to be
very highly technical
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for what we knew about in 1965.
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Or the possibility
exists we may indeed
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be dealing with an
extraterrestrial spacecraft.
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ROBERT STACK: What
happened in the fields
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outside of Kecksburg,
Pennsylvania
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on December 9th, 1965?
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25 years after the fiery
object was seen streaking
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through the skies, the
answers to the mystery
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remain as elusive as
the object itself.
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The Air Force has
declined our request
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to comment on this story.
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Their official report
still states that they
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were investigating a meteorite.
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The report concludes
that nothing was found.
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Some people in Kecksburg,
Pennsylvania disagree.
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When we return, last
summer one of our updates
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inadvertently solved
a mystery of lost love
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00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,176
and helped a daughter meet her
father for the very first time.
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00:24:14,253 --> 00:24:17,289
Last July, we featured an update
on the capture of convicted
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00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:19,458
murderer John Mooney.
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00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,260
During this segment,
we interviewed several
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00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,295
of Mooney's
unsuspecting coworkers,
492
00:24:23,395 --> 00:24:26,165
including 53-year-old
Lavar Bates.
493
00:24:26,265 --> 00:24:28,000
What Lavar didn't
know at the time
494
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:31,237
was that he was at the center
of his own unsolved mystery.
495
00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:34,974
ROBERT STACK: Over
the past three years,
496
00:24:35,074 --> 00:24:38,010
we have featured more than
20 stories of lost love.
497
00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:41,548
More than half of them resulted
in heartwarming reunions.
498
00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:44,617
Tonight we present an unusual
update about lost love
499
00:24:44,717 --> 00:24:48,054
and how a chance helped a father
and his 31-year-old daughter
500
00:24:48,154 --> 00:24:49,355
meet for the first time.
501
00:24:55,562 --> 00:24:58,030
1958-- Ike was President.
502
00:24:58,130 --> 00:24:59,265
Elvis was King.
503
00:24:59,365 --> 00:25:03,069
Sock hops and hula hoops
were the latest craze.
504
00:25:03,169 --> 00:25:06,372
That summer in Amarillo,
Texas, 22-year-old Lavar Bates
505
00:25:06,472 --> 00:25:08,274
fell in love with
18-year-old Peggy Atwood.
506
00:25:08,374 --> 00:25:09,341
Do you have any beer?
507
00:25:09,441 --> 00:25:11,177
Yes, in the back seat.
508
00:25:11,277 --> 00:25:12,845
PEGGY ATWOOD (VOICEOVER):
We met at a place called
509
00:25:12,945 --> 00:25:15,081
the Panhandle Barn Dance.
510
00:25:15,181 --> 00:25:18,651
They were playing a dance
called the Paul Jones.
511
00:25:18,751 --> 00:25:21,020
It's where you
dance with someone
512
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,691
and then they blow a whistle
and then you change partners.
513
00:25:24,791 --> 00:25:27,393
Well, when the time came
for us to change partners,
514
00:25:27,493 --> 00:25:31,530
and he turned around and grabbed
me, I was swept off my feet.
515
00:25:31,631 --> 00:25:33,499
I thought he was the most
handsome man at that time
516
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,400
I'd ever seen.
517
00:25:36,502 --> 00:25:37,870
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Lavar was employed
518
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:39,806
by a construction
outfit and was working
519
00:25:39,906 --> 00:25:42,775
temporarily in Amarillo.
520
00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:46,145
Peggy lived in Pampas, Texas,
a small town 60 miles away.
521
00:25:48,915 --> 00:25:51,951
Every weekend, Lavar would make
the hour drive to Peggy's home
522
00:25:52,051 --> 00:25:54,486
so they could be together.
523
00:25:54,587 --> 00:25:55,755
PEGGY ATWOOD
(VOICEOVER): The most fun
524
00:25:55,855 --> 00:25:58,257
about driving around
with Lavar and having
525
00:25:58,357 --> 00:26:02,028
my arm over his shoulder,
and cranking up the radio.
526
00:26:02,128 --> 00:26:06,899
And just like all teenagers,
just making the drag.
527
00:26:06,999 --> 00:26:08,768
We just thought that
was the grandest thing.
528
00:26:15,307 --> 00:26:17,109
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Several months after they first
529
00:26:17,209 --> 00:26:20,146
met, Peggy drove to
Amarillo and paid a surprise
530
00:26:20,246 --> 00:26:23,716
visit to the man of her dreams.
531
00:26:23,816 --> 00:26:25,752
Hey, baby.
532
00:26:25,852 --> 00:26:27,419
Come on inside.
533
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:30,156
[laughter]
534
00:26:30,256 --> 00:26:31,891
Honey, let me finish
up in the bathroom, OK?
535
00:26:31,991 --> 00:26:32,792
OK, sure.
536
00:26:32,892 --> 00:26:33,960
All right.
537
00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:35,294
PEGGY ATWOOD (VOICEOVER):
When I went in
538
00:26:35,394 --> 00:26:37,930
to see Lavar in his
hotel room, he had just
539
00:26:38,030 --> 00:26:40,066
gotten out of the shower and was
putting his stuff in his pocket
540
00:26:40,166 --> 00:26:41,734
because we were
fixin' to go out.
541
00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:44,370
I thought maybe then we
could go over to Hill's.
542
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:46,005
PEGGY ATWOOD (VOICEOVER):
And there was a picture
543
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:48,975
of this girl on his dresser.
544
00:26:49,075 --> 00:26:50,943
Yeah, I think so.
545
00:26:51,043 --> 00:26:52,611
PEGGY ATWOOD (VOICEOVER):
And of course, being 18,
546
00:26:52,712 --> 00:26:54,480
I just throwed a fit.
547
00:26:54,580 --> 00:26:56,649
It's good to see you.
548
00:26:56,749 --> 00:26:58,584
Who the hell is Fifi?
549
00:26:58,685 --> 00:26:59,786
She's just a friend of mine.
550
00:26:59,886 --> 00:27:01,287
I met her at the coffee
shop the other day.
551
00:27:01,387 --> 00:27:02,421
Just a friend.
552
00:27:02,521 --> 00:27:04,156
Yeah, just a friend of mine.
It's nothing.
553
00:27:04,256 --> 00:27:05,491
PEGGY ATWOOD
(VOICEOVER): He kept
554
00:27:05,591 --> 00:27:07,359
telling me that he'd only known
her for a couple of times.
555
00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:09,028
You know, he'd went out
with her a couple of times
556
00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:10,596
and there wasn't anything
serious between them.
557
00:27:10,697 --> 00:27:12,231
Naturally, I didn't believe him.
558
00:27:12,331 --> 00:27:13,465
I don't have to
put up with this.
559
00:27:13,565 --> 00:27:15,234
- Listen to me.
- You're two timing me, Lavar.
560
00:27:15,334 --> 00:27:16,836
Peggy, I am not
two timing you.
561
00:27:16,936 --> 00:27:18,270
Listen to me, OK?
562
00:27:18,370 --> 00:27:19,405
Listen to me.
563
00:27:19,505 --> 00:27:23,275
And then I got
real mad and left.
564
00:27:23,375 --> 00:27:25,177
And that was the last time
I saw him or heard from him.
565
00:27:29,248 --> 00:27:30,750
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When Peggy stormed out
566
00:27:30,850 --> 00:27:32,752
of Lavar's life, she
had no idea that she
567
00:27:32,852 --> 00:27:35,654
was pregnant with his child.
568
00:27:35,755 --> 00:27:39,291
The next day, Lavar's company
transferred him to Colorado.
569
00:27:39,391 --> 00:27:43,629
He never saw or heard
from Peggy again.
570
00:27:43,730 --> 00:27:45,865
Eight months later, Peggy
gave birth to a daughter
571
00:27:45,965 --> 00:27:49,301
whom she named Kimber.
572
00:27:49,401 --> 00:27:51,003
When she was older,
Kimber learned
573
00:27:51,103 --> 00:27:52,338
the truth about her father.
574
00:27:55,441 --> 00:27:56,876
KIMBER TICE (VOICEOVER):
My mother had told me
575
00:27:56,976 --> 00:27:58,410
as much as she could about him.
576
00:27:58,510 --> 00:28:01,013
That she didn't know where he
was at, or where he'd went to,
577
00:28:01,113 --> 00:28:02,849
or anything like that.
578
00:28:02,949 --> 00:28:06,385
I wondered a lot what he'd
be like, what he'd look
579
00:28:06,485 --> 00:28:08,487
like, or just things like that.
580
00:28:08,587 --> 00:28:11,157
But I just couldn't imagine.
581
00:28:11,257 --> 00:28:13,726
With no information at
all, I just couldn't
582
00:28:13,826 --> 00:28:18,297
imagine what he'd be like.
583
00:28:18,397 --> 00:28:19,866
ROBERT STACK: Lavar Bates
had no way of knowing
584
00:28:19,966 --> 00:28:21,533
that he was a father.
585
00:28:21,633 --> 00:28:23,235
Over the years Peggy
and Kimber often
586
00:28:23,335 --> 00:28:25,671
discussed trying to
locate Lavar, but with so
587
00:28:25,772 --> 00:28:27,706
little information to
go on they eventually
588
00:28:27,807 --> 00:28:29,776
gave up hope of finding him.
589
00:28:29,876 --> 00:28:36,482
All that changed on Wednesday
night, July the 4th, 1990.
590
00:28:36,582 --> 00:28:39,718
That evening, Peggy was
watching the rebroadcast
591
00:28:39,819 --> 00:28:42,254
of our third anniversary
special when she suddenly
592
00:28:42,354 --> 00:28:44,323
recognized a familiar face.
593
00:28:44,423 --> 00:28:46,125
Ah, Ah, it's just disbelief.
594
00:28:46,225 --> 00:28:48,460
I didn't really believe it.
595
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,130
He'd be the last one
I'd believe was involved
596
00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:52,932
in something like that.
597
00:28:53,032 --> 00:28:54,967
I didn't know what to do.
598
00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:59,738
I didn't know whether to try
to call him and try to find out
599
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:03,309
or to call Kimber and tell her.
600
00:29:03,409 --> 00:29:05,744
But then I decided not
to, not to call her
601
00:29:05,845 --> 00:29:07,980
at all until I
found out for sure
602
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,716
whether he wanted to meet her.
603
00:29:10,817 --> 00:29:12,218
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At Peggy's request,
604
00:29:12,318 --> 00:29:16,622
we contacted Lavar, who now
lives in Phoenix, Arizona.
605
00:29:16,722 --> 00:29:19,758
Lavar is married and
has two children.
606
00:29:19,859 --> 00:29:22,428
When the guy from
"Unsolved Mysteries"
607
00:29:22,528 --> 00:29:25,764
called me, and said that
Peggy'd seen me on television,
608
00:29:25,865 --> 00:29:28,334
seen the name, and
was wondering if I was
609
00:29:28,434 --> 00:29:33,772
interested in talking
to her about a daughter
610
00:29:33,873 --> 00:29:39,178
we had that was 31 years old.
611
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:46,152
And I sit down, and shook
a little and it scared me.
612
00:29:46,252 --> 00:29:50,289
I was so nervous because I
was afraid he wouldn't call.
613
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:54,393
And I wanted to tell Kimber
so bad about her daddy.
614
00:29:54,493 --> 00:29:56,829
And those four days, not being
able to pick up the phone
615
00:29:56,929 --> 00:30:00,532
and call her and tell her that
I had found her daddy, you know,
616
00:30:00,632 --> 00:30:01,901
was probably the
hardest thing I've
617
00:30:02,001 --> 00:30:04,503
ever went through in my life.
618
00:30:04,603 --> 00:30:08,307
The day she called and told
me that she had found him,
619
00:30:08,407 --> 00:30:10,176
it was just--
620
00:30:10,276 --> 00:30:11,210
I was excited.
621
00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:12,378
I was scared.
622
00:30:12,478 --> 00:30:16,682
I was-- just all the
emotions, just went crazy.
623
00:30:16,782 --> 00:30:19,751
I didn't really know what to do
because I was kind of in shock,
624
00:30:19,852 --> 00:30:21,587
I think.
625
00:30:21,687 --> 00:30:22,688
I wanted to see him.
626
00:30:22,788 --> 00:30:24,891
I wanted to know him.
627
00:30:24,991 --> 00:30:27,960
And I was just hoping that he
would want to know me, too.
628
00:30:32,764 --> 00:30:34,200
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On August 10,
629
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:36,735
"Unsolved Mysteries"
flew Lavar to Amarillo
630
00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:38,504
to meet his daughter
for the first time.
631
00:30:42,674 --> 00:30:45,044
For Kimber, the chance
to meet her father
632
00:30:45,144 --> 00:30:46,778
was a dream come true.
633
00:30:46,879 --> 00:30:47,679
I'm fine.
634
00:30:47,779 --> 00:30:50,382
How are you?
635
00:30:50,482 --> 00:30:52,751
It's been a long
time, hasn't it?
636
00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:54,086
KIMBER TICE (VOICEOVER):
When I actually
637
00:30:54,186 --> 00:30:58,090
seen him for the first
time, it was great.
638
00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:59,525
You're looking good.
639
00:30:59,625 --> 00:31:02,761
It was exciting
and nerve wracking.
640
00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:06,198
But once I actually met
him, it was all right.
641
00:31:08,334 --> 00:31:09,601
Oh gosh--
642
00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:11,037
KIMBER TICE (VOICEOVER): He's
the kind of person I really
643
00:31:11,137 --> 00:31:13,672
would like to know a lot better,
and I hope we have the time
644
00:31:13,772 --> 00:31:15,942
to gather to get to do that.
645
00:31:16,042 --> 00:31:17,209
This is David.
646
00:31:17,309 --> 00:31:19,478
I'm glad to meet you, David.
647
00:31:19,578 --> 00:31:20,846
This is Regina.
648
00:31:20,947 --> 00:31:24,283
A gap of 30 years is a long
time when you think about it.
649
00:31:24,383 --> 00:31:27,753
But we seemed to hit
it off pretty good,
650
00:31:27,853 --> 00:31:31,223
like we've known each
other quite a while.
651
00:31:31,323 --> 00:31:36,628
I don't know why that is, but
it just seemed to be real easy.
652
00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:41,667
To actually find my
father, it means to me
653
00:31:41,767 --> 00:31:44,503
that now I can get all
the questions answered
654
00:31:44,603 --> 00:31:46,572
that I've wondered about.
655
00:31:46,672 --> 00:31:50,909
And in the future, I
hope more than anything
656
00:31:51,010 --> 00:31:54,480
that he stays part
of our family,
657
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:56,715
and we can make up
for all the years
658
00:31:56,815 --> 00:31:59,151
that we didn't get
to be a family.
659
00:32:05,657 --> 00:32:07,393
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Next an unsettling look
660
00:32:07,493 --> 00:32:10,396
into the mind of a deranged
arsonist, who videotaped
661
00:32:10,496 --> 00:32:12,598
the fire he set
and filled the tape
662
00:32:12,698 --> 00:32:15,334
with his alarming and
possibly satanic commentary.
663
00:32:19,305 --> 00:32:24,776
I've never run across
anything as eerie as this tape.
664
00:32:24,876 --> 00:32:26,478
It frightened me.
665
00:32:26,578 --> 00:32:29,548
As a matter of fact,
I thought about it
666
00:32:29,648 --> 00:32:31,717
that night when I went to bed.
667
00:32:39,058 --> 00:32:40,192
ROBERT STACK: Each
year in the United
668
00:32:40,292 --> 00:32:42,328
States, more than
200,000 people become
669
00:32:42,428 --> 00:32:44,796
the victims of arsonists.
670
00:32:44,896 --> 00:32:46,765
Each fire is an
individual tragedy.
671
00:32:46,865 --> 00:32:48,900
In many cases, victims
are left not only
672
00:32:49,001 --> 00:32:51,503
homeless, but injured or dead.
673
00:32:51,603 --> 00:32:54,040
You're about to have the rare
and disturbing opportunity
674
00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:56,942
to go inside the
mind of an arsonist.
675
00:32:57,043 --> 00:32:58,544
An arsonist who
police believe made
676
00:32:58,644 --> 00:33:01,347
a videotape of the fire he set.
677
00:33:01,447 --> 00:33:03,482
The story starts with
an innocent discovery.
678
00:33:09,621 --> 00:33:12,924
August 15th, 1989,
near Stockton,
679
00:33:13,025 --> 00:33:15,827
California, a car overheated
in the scorching summer
680
00:33:15,927 --> 00:33:16,995
temperatures.
681
00:33:17,096 --> 00:33:19,431
We'll call the car's
owner Joseph Villa.
682
00:33:22,434 --> 00:33:23,369
[car door closing]
683
00:33:23,469 --> 00:33:24,270
Oh, man.
684
00:33:30,976 --> 00:33:32,644
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Joseph inspected the damage
685
00:33:32,744 --> 00:33:35,381
while his wife
and son looked on.
686
00:33:35,481 --> 00:33:37,149
Joseph decided
that he and his son
687
00:33:37,249 --> 00:33:39,251
should walk to the
nearest telephone.
688
00:33:42,788 --> 00:33:45,591
On the way, the boy
noticed a camouflage jacket
689
00:33:45,691 --> 00:33:47,326
on the ground.
690
00:33:47,426 --> 00:33:50,162
Wrapped in the jacket were
a videotape with no label,
691
00:33:50,262 --> 00:33:53,499
and several audio cassettes
of heavy metal music.
692
00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:55,501
They decided to take
the videotape home.
693
00:34:02,474 --> 00:34:05,577
This is the actual videotape
found by the Villas.
694
00:34:05,677 --> 00:34:08,647
And police are convinced that
the person holding the camera
695
00:34:08,747 --> 00:34:11,283
set the fire himself.
696
00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:13,785
The Villa family was
stunned when they realized
697
00:34:13,885 --> 00:34:15,454
what they were watching.
698
00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:17,223
The disturbing voice
on the tape seemed
699
00:34:17,323 --> 00:34:19,491
to belong to the arsonist.
700
00:34:19,591 --> 00:34:21,860
The police have since enhanced
the voice for clarity.
701
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,062
ARSONIST (VOICEOVER):
This is beautiful.
702
00:34:24,163 --> 00:34:25,931
Look at it.
703
00:34:26,031 --> 00:34:29,067
You see what I
can do [inaudible]
704
00:34:29,168 --> 00:34:30,369
Do you see what I can do?
705
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:38,076
[laughs] Ah.
706
00:34:38,177 --> 00:34:39,478
This is crazy.
707
00:34:39,578 --> 00:34:41,447
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Joseph
Villa decided to turn the tape
708
00:34:41,547 --> 00:34:44,049
over to the authorities.
709
00:34:44,150 --> 00:34:49,488
I've never run across
anything as eerie as this tape.
710
00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:51,257
It frightened me.
711
00:34:51,357 --> 00:34:54,326
As a matter of fact,
I thought about it
712
00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:56,895
that night when I went to bed.
713
00:34:56,995 --> 00:34:58,797
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Unable to pinpoint the location
714
00:34:58,897 --> 00:35:01,733
of the fire, investigators
began an in-depth study
715
00:35:01,833 --> 00:35:04,936
of the videotape itself.
716
00:35:05,036 --> 00:35:06,705
ARSONIST (VOICEOVER):
Look at it, Omar.
717
00:35:06,805 --> 00:35:07,606
OK.
718
00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:08,674
Look at it, Omar.
719
00:35:08,774 --> 00:35:09,575
Look at it, Omar.
720
00:35:09,675 --> 00:35:12,178
Look at it, Omar.
- OK.
721
00:35:12,278 --> 00:35:13,879
He did say the name Omar.
Look at it, Omar.
722
00:35:13,979 --> 00:35:14,780
Look at it, Omar.
723
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,148
And then he laughs.
724
00:35:16,248 --> 00:35:17,949
FRANK CURRY (VOICEOVER):
When we listened to the tape,
725
00:35:18,049 --> 00:35:20,752
it was hard to
understand certain words
726
00:35:20,852 --> 00:35:22,588
that this person was saying.
727
00:35:22,688 --> 00:35:25,957
So we sat down, and we actually
went through this tape,
728
00:35:26,057 --> 00:35:27,693
I mean hundreds of times.
729
00:35:27,793 --> 00:35:30,662
And came up with a script.
730
00:35:30,762 --> 00:35:33,499
ARSONIST (VOICEOVER):
Look at it, Omar.
731
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:37,002
This is what I've been doing
on your week's vacation.
732
00:35:37,102 --> 00:35:38,570
[laughter]
733
00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:40,071
ARSONIST (VOICEOVER):
I said I'll do it!
734
00:35:40,172 --> 00:35:42,308
I said I'll do it!
735
00:35:42,408 --> 00:35:45,877
[laughs]
736
00:35:45,977 --> 00:35:47,979
FRANK CURRY (VOICEOVER): He
says, I told you I'd do it,
737
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:50,316
Omar.
738
00:35:50,416 --> 00:35:54,686
Is Omar the property owner,
it's a revenge type burn?
739
00:35:54,786 --> 00:35:58,757
Is Omar the construction person
that maybe hired this person
740
00:35:58,857 --> 00:36:02,894
and fired him and made that a
revenge motive for the fire?
741
00:36:02,994 --> 00:36:03,829
I really don't know.
742
00:36:03,929 --> 00:36:07,132
We really don't
know who Omar is.
743
00:36:07,233 --> 00:36:08,300
OK, is this the jacket?
744
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,668
Yes, that's it right here.
745
00:36:09,768 --> 00:36:10,702
OK.
746
00:36:10,802 --> 00:36:12,037
Did you see anything
else around here?
747
00:36:12,137 --> 00:36:13,805
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
A county arson investigator
748
00:36:13,905 --> 00:36:16,174
accompanied Joseph Villa's
brother to the spot where
749
00:36:16,275 --> 00:36:18,043
the tape had been discovered.
750
00:36:18,143 --> 00:36:20,679
Amazingly, the jacket
was still there.
751
00:36:20,779 --> 00:36:22,981
In it was a wooden
pestle, the type
752
00:36:23,081 --> 00:36:28,554
sometimes used to grind
herbs for satanic rituals.
753
00:36:28,654 --> 00:36:30,922
Nearby, the two men found
a glove that matched
754
00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:33,992
the jacket and a ceramic skull.
755
00:36:34,092 --> 00:36:36,094
The pestle and the
skull suggest satanism,
756
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:39,698
as do certain portions of
the arsonist's monologue.
757
00:36:39,798 --> 00:36:41,867
ARSONIST (VOICEOVER):
This is hell.
758
00:36:41,967 --> 00:36:45,404
I call it home.
759
00:36:45,504 --> 00:36:47,773
My hell.
760
00:36:47,873 --> 00:36:52,143
The whole sky is
black with smoke.
761
00:36:52,244 --> 00:37:03,021
This is the fire that I will
destroy and burn your soul up.
762
00:37:03,121 --> 00:37:06,925
Ancient spirit of evil.
763
00:37:07,025 --> 00:37:09,261
FRANK CURRY (VOICEOVER):
Those are basically the clues,
764
00:37:09,361 --> 00:37:11,297
all we have on the video.
765
00:37:11,397 --> 00:37:16,134
And that's why we need to
find out where this went down.
766
00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:17,269
Where is this home.
767
00:37:20,171 --> 00:37:21,507
ARSONIST (VOICEOVER):
The fire department's
768
00:37:21,607 --> 00:37:23,275
trying to put it out.
769
00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:24,443
What a laugh.
770
00:37:26,578 --> 00:37:28,046
FRANK CURRY (VOICEOVER):
As we viewed the tape,
771
00:37:28,146 --> 00:37:32,017
we realized that there was
fire suppression equipment that
772
00:37:32,117 --> 00:37:33,952
had responded to the incident.
773
00:37:34,052 --> 00:37:36,755
And we thought if we
can enhance the tape,
774
00:37:36,855 --> 00:37:39,458
bring those shots in a
little bit closer to us,
775
00:37:39,558 --> 00:37:42,628
we may be able to get
a door mark or a house
776
00:37:42,728 --> 00:37:44,830
number or maybe even
a fire department
777
00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:46,565
insignia on the door.
778
00:37:46,665 --> 00:37:48,233
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Despite a frame by frame
779
00:37:48,334 --> 00:37:50,302
analysis, the
photographic enhancements
780
00:37:50,402 --> 00:37:52,838
did not reveal any new details.
781
00:37:52,938 --> 00:37:54,906
Investigators were
still unable to match
782
00:37:55,006 --> 00:38:00,446
the tape with any reported fires
in the state of California.
783
00:38:00,546 --> 00:38:02,213
The tape was found
by the Villa family
784
00:38:02,314 --> 00:38:06,652
here, just a few yards from
Interstate 205 near Stockton.
785
00:38:06,752 --> 00:38:09,254
205 feeds into several
major highways,
786
00:38:09,355 --> 00:38:11,857
so authorities believe the fire
could have happened anywhere
787
00:38:11,957 --> 00:38:14,059
in the United States
and that the arsonist
788
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:18,296
might have been only
traveling through California.
789
00:38:18,397 --> 00:38:20,499
I think the person
who made this videotape
790
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:23,201
and is responsible
for the fire will,
791
00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:26,572
without a doubt in my mind,
continue to set fires.
792
00:38:26,672 --> 00:38:29,074
And the person needs
to be apprehended
793
00:38:29,174 --> 00:38:32,744
and stopped before his fires
become more destructive.
794
00:38:32,844 --> 00:38:35,113
And then there's a few of
these type of serial arsonists
795
00:38:35,213 --> 00:38:38,316
that will move into
another criminal area.
796
00:38:38,417 --> 00:38:42,187
You may recall the Son of
Sam back east, who killed
797
00:38:42,287 --> 00:38:45,056
six people with a 44 magnum.
798
00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:47,359
He was responsible
for about 2,000 fires
799
00:38:47,459 --> 00:38:48,794
in the city of New York.
800
00:38:48,894 --> 00:38:50,195
And then he stopped
setting fires
801
00:38:50,295 --> 00:38:51,630
and started killing people.
802
00:38:51,730 --> 00:38:53,832
ARSONIST (VOICEOVER):
Look at the flames.
803
00:38:53,932 --> 00:38:56,234
Listen to the coyotes yell.
804
00:38:56,334 --> 00:39:00,472
[laughs] Listen to 'em.
805
00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:03,409
Good night ladies and gentlemen.
806
00:39:03,509 --> 00:39:13,619
[laughs]
807
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,787
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
house appears to be a one story
808
00:39:15,887 --> 00:39:19,357
ranch house with two chimneys.
809
00:39:19,458 --> 00:39:20,826
There was another
house on the left side
810
00:39:20,926 --> 00:39:24,863
of the picture, partially
hidden by a white trailer.
811
00:39:24,963 --> 00:39:26,598
The trailer may indicate
that the burning
812
00:39:26,698 --> 00:39:28,734
house was under construction.
813
00:39:28,834 --> 00:39:33,004
The setting is
uncluttered, perhaps rural.
814
00:39:33,104 --> 00:39:35,306
The arsonist gives
the date as 1988,
815
00:39:35,407 --> 00:39:38,710
and TV commercials recorded
onto another part of the tape
816
00:39:38,810 --> 00:39:41,513
verify that date.
817
00:39:41,613 --> 00:39:43,782
Because fire engines
do arrive, it
818
00:39:43,882 --> 00:39:46,952
seems fairly certain that
somewhere a report of this fire
819
00:39:47,052 --> 00:39:47,853
is on file.
820
00:39:51,089 --> 00:39:53,459
Update-- Redwood
City, California,
821
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:55,694
60 miles west of Stockton.
822
00:39:55,794 --> 00:39:57,929
Within minutes of our
broadcast, several viewers
823
00:39:58,029 --> 00:39:59,865
from Redwood City
called our telecenter
824
00:39:59,965 --> 00:40:02,000
and identified the
location of the house
825
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:05,604
seen burning on the videotape.
826
00:40:05,704 --> 00:40:08,740
As we were sitting here and
we looked at the film on the TV,
827
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,242
we realized with utter
shock that it was the house
828
00:40:11,342 --> 00:40:13,712
behind us that was on TV.
829
00:40:13,812 --> 00:40:15,413
And our family was
scared, to say the least,
830
00:40:15,514 --> 00:40:17,849
because we didn't realize
that the film even existed.
831
00:40:17,949 --> 00:40:20,118
And it was no mistake in
my mind at all that that
832
00:40:20,218 --> 00:40:22,353
was the house that was
behind us by watching
833
00:40:22,454 --> 00:40:23,655
the videotape on TV.
834
00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:25,223
We called into
"Unsolved Mysteries"
835
00:40:25,323 --> 00:40:27,559
and gave all the information.
836
00:40:27,659 --> 00:40:28,727
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The arson
837
00:40:28,827 --> 00:40:31,296
occurred on August 15th, 1988.
838
00:40:31,396 --> 00:40:34,365
The house that was destroyed was
under construction at the time.
839
00:40:34,466 --> 00:40:38,369
Today it has been rebuilt.
Incredibly, on the night
840
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:41,507
of the blaze, Woodside
Fire Captain John Dellinges
841
00:40:41,607 --> 00:40:44,342
also videotaped the fire.
842
00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:46,011
JOHN DELLINGES (VOICEOVER):
While I was setting up
843
00:40:46,111 --> 00:40:49,047
the command post,
directing companies in
844
00:40:49,147 --> 00:40:51,483
to extinguish the
fire, I had set up
845
00:40:51,583 --> 00:40:55,587
my video camera to film
the fire for training
846
00:40:55,687 --> 00:40:58,690
and investigation purposes.
847
00:40:58,790 --> 00:41:00,626
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): By
comparing Captain Dellinges's
848
00:41:00,726 --> 00:41:02,994
tape with the video
shot by the arsonist,
849
00:41:03,094 --> 00:41:05,631
investigators were able
to confirm beyond a doubt
850
00:41:05,731 --> 00:41:06,632
the fire's location.
851
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,369
MARK POLLIO (VOICEOVER)
Some of the calls received
852
00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:14,773
led us to a 17-year-old
Woodside youth.
853
00:41:14,873 --> 00:41:16,775
We interviewed that youth.
854
00:41:16,875 --> 00:41:19,811
Through that interview, it led
us to a 19-year-old Redwood
855
00:41:19,911 --> 00:41:21,547
City youth.
856
00:41:21,647 --> 00:41:24,516
He was arrested and
interviewed and subsequently
857
00:41:24,616 --> 00:41:28,286
admitted burning the
house, taking the video
858
00:41:28,386 --> 00:41:31,757
and was the one who
talked on the videotape.
859
00:41:31,857 --> 00:41:34,693
Our biggest hope was that
maybe we'd find an area
860
00:41:34,793 --> 00:41:37,028
or a location on the fire.
861
00:41:37,128 --> 00:41:39,430
We never dreamed that we'd
get the results that we did.
862
00:41:59,785 --> 00:42:05,090
[non-english speech]
863
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:06,892
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Every October 18th, Francesca
864
00:42:06,992 --> 00:42:09,494
and Tomas Santana
commemorate their daughter
865
00:42:09,595 --> 00:42:12,063
Marlene's birthday.
866
00:42:12,163 --> 00:42:14,499
But every October
18th is also a time
867
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,868
of sorrow for the
Santana family,
868
00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:20,405
for their daughter has
been missing since 1985.
869
00:42:20,505 --> 00:42:23,108
Three days after Marlene
Santana was born,
870
00:42:23,208 --> 00:42:25,977
she was kidnapped on
a Brooklyn street.
871
00:42:26,077 --> 00:42:30,215
No trace of her has
ever been found.
872
00:42:30,315 --> 00:42:35,120
On October 18th, 1985, Francesca
gave birth to a little girl.
873
00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:36,755
She named her Marlene.
874
00:42:36,855 --> 00:42:38,523
FRANCESCA SANTANA (VOICEOVER):
When my baby was born,
875
00:42:38,624 --> 00:42:39,991
she was pretty.
876
00:42:40,091 --> 00:42:42,160
She was very beautiful.
877
00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:45,964
She was the most beautiful
baby in the nursery.
878
00:42:46,064 --> 00:42:47,766
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Three days later on the 21st
879
00:42:47,866 --> 00:42:49,901
of October, Francesca
was preparing
880
00:42:50,001 --> 00:42:52,503
to take her baby daughter
home when she met
881
00:42:52,604 --> 00:42:54,105
a woman outside the nursery.
882
00:42:54,205 --> 00:42:55,440
That your baby.
883
00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:56,742
Yeah.
884
00:42:56,842 --> 00:42:59,344
He's so beautiful.
885
00:42:59,444 --> 00:43:02,714
I was looking at my
baby in the nursery,
886
00:43:02,814 --> 00:43:05,016
I saw a woman in
the window that told
887
00:43:05,116 --> 00:43:11,156
me that my baby was the most
quiet one, the prettiest one.
888
00:43:11,256 --> 00:43:14,592
And I was glad that she
told me that, because I
889
00:43:14,693 --> 00:43:16,027
thought she liked my baby.
890
00:43:19,097 --> 00:43:20,766
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A
few hours later, Francesca
891
00:43:20,866 --> 00:43:23,534
checked out of the hospital.
892
00:43:23,635 --> 00:43:25,804
Her two sisters-in-law
came to take her home.
893
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:30,441
The time was 9 PM.
894
00:43:30,541 --> 00:43:31,576
FRANCESCA SANTANA
(VOICEOVER): When
895
00:43:31,677 --> 00:43:36,214
we were going downstairs,
a woman come to me,
896
00:43:36,314 --> 00:43:38,850
the same woman that
I saw in the nursery.
897
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:40,085
Where are you going?
898
00:43:40,185 --> 00:43:41,352
I've been waiting
for you all night.
899
00:43:41,452 --> 00:43:42,187
FRANCESCA SANTANA
(VOICEOVER): She told me
900
00:43:42,287 --> 00:43:43,454
she was waiting for me all day.
901
00:43:43,554 --> 00:43:45,056
I'm going home now.
902
00:43:45,156 --> 00:43:45,957
Goodbye.
903
00:43:46,057 --> 00:43:47,158
This isn't a game.
904
00:43:47,258 --> 00:43:48,559
I'm not joking around.
905
00:43:53,098 --> 00:43:55,366
Walk, or I'll blow her head off.
906
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,275
FRANCESCA SANTANA (VOICEOVER):
So she told us to come
907
00:44:04,375 --> 00:44:07,412
and she told us to walk.
908
00:44:07,512 --> 00:44:10,281
Or she's going to
blow up the head.
909
00:44:10,381 --> 00:44:12,083
And we walk.
910
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:15,921
Keep going.
911
00:44:16,021 --> 00:44:17,689
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
They walked over six blocks
912
00:44:17,789 --> 00:44:18,489
at gunpoint.
913
00:44:18,589 --> 00:44:19,357
KIDNAPPER (VOICEOVER): Walk.
914
00:44:21,793 --> 00:44:23,228
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Finally they stopped
915
00:44:23,328 --> 00:44:25,196
near a deserted junkyard.
916
00:44:25,296 --> 00:44:27,032
KIDNAPPER (VOICEOVER): Stop.
917
00:44:27,132 --> 00:44:28,867
I said stop.
918
00:44:28,967 --> 00:44:30,601
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At first Francesca thought
919
00:44:30,702 --> 00:44:32,838
that they were being robbed.
920
00:44:32,938 --> 00:44:35,573
Give me the baby.
921
00:44:35,673 --> 00:44:37,542
Give me the baby.
922
00:44:37,642 --> 00:44:39,344
[baby crying]
923
00:44:39,444 --> 00:44:41,747
I said, give me the baby.
924
00:44:46,651 --> 00:44:48,486
KIDNAPPER (VOICEOVER):
Keep walking.
925
00:44:48,586 --> 00:44:50,922
Walk!
926
00:44:51,022 --> 00:44:54,025
The woman got in a car driven
by an accomplice and drove off.
927
00:44:54,125 --> 00:44:55,160
FRANCESCA SANTANA
(VOICEOVER): No!
928
00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:56,061
No!
929
00:44:59,030 --> 00:45:01,867
When she took the
baby, I was in shock.
930
00:45:01,967 --> 00:45:03,668
I didn't know what to do.
931
00:45:03,769 --> 00:45:06,037
I was crying.
932
00:45:06,137 --> 00:45:10,175
I st-- stopped the car
there, and nobody help us.
933
00:45:13,745 --> 00:45:15,646
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): After
Francesca and her companions
934
00:45:15,747 --> 00:45:20,786
went to the police, detectives
were assigned to the case.
935
00:45:20,886 --> 00:45:23,454
Francesca was able to
describe the car that
936
00:45:23,554 --> 00:45:26,457
had driven away with her baby.
937
00:45:26,557 --> 00:45:30,728
It was a white 1976 Chevy Malibu
with red lettering on its door.
938
00:45:33,999 --> 00:45:36,334
At the hospital, police
tried to gather descriptions
939
00:45:36,434 --> 00:45:38,103
of the mysterious woman.
940
00:45:38,203 --> 00:45:40,571
Some believe that she was
not a professional criminal,
941
00:45:40,671 --> 00:45:42,841
but rather an emotionally
disturbed woman
942
00:45:42,941 --> 00:45:46,577
unable to have a
child of her own.
943
00:45:46,677 --> 00:45:48,146
Based on eyewitness
descriptions,
944
00:45:48,246 --> 00:45:51,216
a composite was created
showing the abductor.
945
00:45:51,316 --> 00:45:54,085
She was white with Hispanic
features and no accent.
946
00:45:54,185 --> 00:45:56,554
She had dyed reddish
blond hair and appeared
947
00:45:56,654 --> 00:45:59,157
to be in her late '20s.
948
00:45:59,257 --> 00:46:01,793
Today, three years later,
the Santana family still
949
00:46:01,893 --> 00:46:03,694
search for their missing child.
950
00:46:03,795 --> 00:46:05,296
A composite artist
sketched Marlena
951
00:46:05,396 --> 00:46:07,265
as she might look today.
952
00:46:07,365 --> 00:46:09,434
She would be three years
of age, and may celebrate
953
00:46:09,534 --> 00:46:11,136
her birthday around Halloween.
954
00:46:11,236 --> 00:46:13,204
She might have been put
up for an illegal adoption
955
00:46:13,304 --> 00:46:16,541
in late 1985 or 1986.
956
00:46:16,641 --> 00:46:20,245
Maybe one day a person
who knows where's my baby--
957
00:46:20,345 --> 00:46:21,746
they must say something.
958
00:46:21,847 --> 00:46:24,816
They must do it.
959
00:46:24,916 --> 00:46:27,252
I don't think I could die
without seeing my baby again.
960
00:46:35,894 --> 00:46:37,395
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Next week on "Unsolved
961
00:46:37,495 --> 00:46:40,765
Mysteries," December 1945--
962
00:46:40,866 --> 00:46:43,835
a squadron of Navy torpedo
planes took off from Florida
963
00:46:43,935 --> 00:46:46,304
and literally disappeared
from the face of the earth
964
00:46:46,404 --> 00:46:49,007
during a routine training
exercise in an area we
965
00:46:49,107 --> 00:46:51,542
now call the Bermuda Triangle.
966
00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:54,345
Since then, the mysterious
powers of the Bermuda Triangle
967
00:46:54,445 --> 00:46:58,183
are said to have caused hundreds
of ships and planes to vanish.
968
00:46:58,283 --> 00:47:00,218
Now dramatic new
evidence suggests
969
00:47:00,318 --> 00:47:02,187
that the legend of
the Bermuda Triangle
970
00:47:02,287 --> 00:47:06,557
is just that, only a legend.
971
00:47:06,657 --> 00:47:10,028
And in northern
California, one woman
972
00:47:10,128 --> 00:47:13,531
takes a brave stand against drug
dealers in her neighborhood.
973
00:47:13,631 --> 00:47:16,267
An unexpected barrage of
gunfire left her wounded,
974
00:47:16,367 --> 00:47:18,236
but more determined than ever.
975
00:47:18,336 --> 00:47:22,440
Her attackers fled and
remained unidentified.
976
00:47:22,540 --> 00:47:24,809
We'll also tell you the
poignant story of six brothers
977
00:47:24,910 --> 00:47:26,777
and sisters who were
uprooted from their homes
978
00:47:26,878 --> 00:47:28,646
and placed in orphanages.
979
00:47:28,746 --> 00:47:30,281
Today five of them
are still searching
980
00:47:30,381 --> 00:47:32,117
for the missing brother.
981
00:47:32,217 --> 00:47:34,785
Join me next week
for another edition
982
00:47:34,886 --> 00:47:37,288
of "Unsolved Mysteries."
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