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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,913 --> 00:00:07,902 (eerie music) 2 00:00:08,463 --> 00:00:10,899 - You know, I've been around for a while, 3 00:00:10,899 --> 00:00:13,111 met some interesting people, 4 00:00:13,111 --> 00:00:15,331 done some crazy things. 5 00:00:15,331 --> 00:00:17,412 So, you just might think that there's 6 00:00:17,412 --> 00:00:21,801 not much that can take me by surprise. 7 00:00:21,801 --> 00:00:23,549 You'd be wrong. 8 00:00:23,549 --> 00:00:28,517 (eerie music) 9 00:00:28,517 --> 00:00:31,779 The world is full of stories and science 10 00:00:31,779 --> 00:00:34,700 and things that amaze and confound me. 11 00:00:34,700 --> 00:00:36,524 every single day, incredible mysteries 12 00:00:36,524 --> 00:00:37,910 that keep me awake at night. 13 00:00:37,910 --> 00:00:40,125 Some I can answer. 14 00:00:40,125 --> 00:00:43,629 Others just defy logic. 15 00:00:45,051 --> 00:00:48,118 Is the history of the world wrong? 16 00:00:48,390 --> 00:00:50,311 In a Mexican cave, a young girl finds 17 00:00:50,311 --> 00:00:53,993 a bizarre 900-year-old skeleton. 18 00:00:53,993 --> 00:00:58,118 Is it evidence aliens once walked our planet? 19 00:00:58,118 --> 00:01:01,765 - This is the equivalent of landing on the moon. 20 00:01:03,087 --> 00:01:06,093 - [William] A Peruvian doctor discovers stone carvings 21 00:01:06,093 --> 00:01:09,850 that could rewrite the history of evolution. 22 00:01:09,850 --> 00:01:13,816 Did dinosaurs live alongside humans? 23 00:01:13,816 --> 00:01:17,990 - This is one of archaeology's most baffling enigmas. 24 00:01:19,035 --> 00:01:20,915 - [William] And a 2000-year-old wooden model 25 00:01:20,915 --> 00:01:23,878 reveals an incredible secret. 26 00:01:23,878 --> 00:01:27,473 Did the ancient Egyptians invent the airplane? 27 00:01:27,473 --> 00:01:30,143 - This is going to throw the way we view 28 00:01:30,143 --> 00:01:33,953 ancient civilizations completely topsy-turvy. 29 00:01:34,484 --> 00:01:39,489 - Yeah, it's a weird world and I love it. 30 00:01:40,205 --> 00:01:45,193 (dramatic music) 31 00:01:57,862 --> 00:01:58,936 I love books. 32 00:01:58,936 --> 00:02:02,037 They make me think, especially anything about history. 33 00:02:02,037 --> 00:02:05,544 Thousands of years of human development and achievement, 34 00:02:05,544 --> 00:02:08,926 they're all contained in the pages 35 00:02:08,926 --> 00:02:10,346 of these wonderful documents 36 00:02:10,346 --> 00:02:12,685 that not only teach generation after generation 37 00:02:12,685 --> 00:02:17,410 about where we came from, but where we might be going. 38 00:02:19,112 --> 00:02:22,035 Have you ever stopped to consider 39 00:02:22,035 --> 00:02:27,005 what it might mean for us if all we've learned 40 00:02:27,005 --> 00:02:31,820 and all we think we've learned about our past 41 00:02:32,515 --> 00:02:36,356 is wrong? 42 00:02:36,356 --> 00:02:38,067 It's unthinkable, isn't it? 43 00:02:38,067 --> 00:02:40,532 Well, guess what, there's real and bizarre events 44 00:02:40,532 --> 00:02:42,033 out there that are telling us 45 00:02:42,033 --> 00:02:44,957 we may need to rethink everything we know about everything. 46 00:02:44,957 --> 00:02:49,010 The unthinkable is here. 47 00:02:51,470 --> 00:02:55,353 Researcher Lloyd Pye is the guardian of what he contends 48 00:02:55,353 --> 00:02:59,469 is the most important artifact ever discovered. 49 00:03:01,239 --> 00:03:04,117 The story begins in the Mexican countryside 50 00:03:04,117 --> 00:03:06,531 over 80 years a go. 51 00:03:06,921 --> 00:03:11,635 - It was originally discovered in about 1930 by a young girl 52 00:03:11,635 --> 00:03:15,392 about a hundred miles southwest of Chihuahua. 53 00:03:15,392 --> 00:03:17,439 She was visiting relatives there. 54 00:03:17,439 --> 00:03:19,985 She went out exploring the area, 55 00:03:19,985 --> 00:03:23,199 found a mine tunnel, went in, 56 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:26,876 and inside the tunnel, found two skeletons. 57 00:03:26,876 --> 00:03:31,344 (eerie music) 58 00:03:31,424 --> 00:03:33,221 - [William] Examining the bones, 59 00:03:33,221 --> 00:03:37,688 the girl thinks one of the skulls looks very strange. 60 00:03:37,688 --> 00:03:40,736 - It was a misformed or misshapened skull. 61 00:03:40,736 --> 00:03:43,072 She believed it was a deformity. 62 00:03:43,072 --> 00:03:45,620 - [William] With no idea what she stumbled across, 63 00:03:45,620 --> 00:03:50,212 the girl removes the skull as a macabre souvenir. 64 00:03:50,212 --> 00:03:53,503 She holds on to it for 60 years. 65 00:03:54,387 --> 00:03:56,603 - She brought it to her home in El Paso, 66 00:03:56,603 --> 00:03:59,187 kept it for her whole life. 67 00:03:59,187 --> 00:04:02,029 When she found out that she was dying in the early '90s, 68 00:04:02,029 --> 00:04:05,375 she asked some friends if they would take it for her. 69 00:04:05,375 --> 00:04:06,536 - [William] The skull ends up in the care 70 00:04:06,536 --> 00:04:09,709 of Melanie Young, a medical professional, 71 00:04:09,709 --> 00:04:13,634 who immediately makes a shocking discovery. 72 00:04:13,636 --> 00:04:17,728 - She had seen a lot of deformity and she said right away, 73 00:04:17,728 --> 00:04:22,191 "I don't think this is necessarily a deformed human skull," 74 00:04:22,191 --> 00:04:24,944 and that's how I got involved. 75 00:04:26,493 --> 00:04:29,666 - [William] Perplexed, Melanie approaches Lloyd. 76 00:04:29,666 --> 00:04:32,588 He's an expert in human skulls, 77 00:04:32,588 --> 00:04:36,054 but in his years of studying human development, 78 00:04:36,054 --> 00:04:38,705 he's never seen anything like it. 79 00:04:40,938 --> 00:04:44,590 - When I looked into those eyes, it was like Whoa! 80 00:04:44,780 --> 00:04:47,119 This really is something unusual. 81 00:04:47,119 --> 00:04:50,248 It's so unusual, it's so bizarre, 82 00:04:50,248 --> 00:04:53,547 a moron can see this is not really a human skull, 83 00:04:53,547 --> 00:04:56,250 it's something else but what? 84 00:04:56,511 --> 00:04:59,477 But by the same token, I was like everybody else, 85 00:04:59,477 --> 00:05:03,901 my first reaction was it has to be some kind of deformity 86 00:05:03,901 --> 00:05:08,411 because if it's not, then this is the equivalent 87 00:05:08,411 --> 00:05:11,039 of the shepherd that fount the Dead Sea Scrolls. 88 00:05:11,039 --> 00:05:14,254 I mean this is a big deal, and I didn't believe that 89 00:05:14,254 --> 00:05:17,434 that kind of thing would just fall into my lap. 90 00:05:17,434 --> 00:05:21,909 I took it to experts in every field of human physiology, 91 00:05:23,439 --> 00:05:27,280 the eye guy, the brain guy, the ear guy, 92 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:29,705 the skull shape guy, 93 00:05:29,705 --> 00:05:33,336 During the course of '99, I came to understand 94 00:05:33,336 --> 00:05:37,636 that physiologically, it was really nothing like a human. 95 00:05:37,636 --> 00:05:41,920 It is human-like, but it is definitely non-human, 96 00:05:43,271 --> 00:05:46,236 no other way to say it. 97 00:05:46,695 --> 00:05:49,908 - [William] But if it's not human, what was it? 98 00:05:49,908 --> 00:05:52,957 Lloyd broadens his search. 99 00:05:52,957 --> 00:05:56,505 - I took it to experts in UFOs and aliens 100 00:05:56,505 --> 00:05:59,053 and have people who have been in it for years 101 00:05:59,053 --> 00:06:01,482 evaluate it. 102 00:06:02,646 --> 00:06:04,814 - [William] After close examination, 103 00:06:04,814 --> 00:06:08,362 the UFO experts reach a stunning conclusion. 104 00:06:08,362 --> 00:06:13,362 - The skull is an alien that died 105 00:06:14,163 --> 00:06:18,133 on Earth and was buried on Earth 900 years ago. 106 00:06:18,133 --> 00:06:21,803 The consensus was it looks like the skull of a grey alien, 107 00:06:23,936 --> 00:06:26,862 the alien that we all know, the one with the heart-shaped 108 00:06:26,862 --> 00:06:30,197 face on a thin little neck and weird eyes. 109 00:06:30,197 --> 00:06:33,955 We all know that look, a grey alien. 110 00:06:34,083 --> 00:06:36,342 - [William] With this in mind, Lloyd and his supporters 111 00:06:36,342 --> 00:06:40,554 name the artifact the Starchild skull. 112 00:06:40,554 --> 00:06:43,810 They keep looking for answers. 113 00:06:43,810 --> 00:06:45,735 - How it got here, I don't know. 114 00:06:45,735 --> 00:06:47,194 Was it crash landed? 115 00:06:47,194 --> 00:06:48,317 I don't know. 116 00:06:48,317 --> 00:06:50,696 Did it come here on a visit and get sick and die? 117 00:06:50,696 --> 00:06:51,575 I don't know. 118 00:06:51,575 --> 00:06:54,079 The implications are as big as you can imagine. 119 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:56,793 The Starchild is going to change history. 120 00:06:56,793 --> 00:07:00,095 It's going to prove that at least once, 121 00:07:00,095 --> 00:07:03,225 an alien being walked on the Earth. 122 00:07:03,225 --> 00:07:07,481 (dramatic music) 123 00:07:07,481 --> 00:07:09,150 - Dear friends, we are gathered here today 124 00:07:09,150 --> 00:07:12,240 to pay our last tributes and respects to the memory 125 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,241 of our departed and beloved alien child, (hum) 126 00:07:19,922 --> 00:07:23,789 Oh sorry, would you excuse me for a moment? 127 00:07:24,139 --> 00:07:26,214 This story is definitely weird or what. 128 00:07:26,214 --> 00:07:29,400 Does the Starchild skull belong to an alien child 129 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,366 who was visiting or even conceived 130 00:07:31,366 --> 00:07:33,158 on Earth but tragically died? 131 00:07:33,158 --> 00:07:36,205 If so, change the course of history? 132 00:07:36,205 --> 00:07:38,376 But even more importantly, what about the parents? 133 00:07:38,376 --> 00:07:41,299 Did anyone think of letting them know? 134 00:07:41,299 --> 00:07:43,433 Did they give their child a proper farewell? 135 00:07:43,433 --> 00:07:45,337 I doubt it. 136 00:07:46,308 --> 00:07:48,063 I'm so sorry. 137 00:07:48,063 --> 00:07:52,161 (hum) was a wonderful child who loved 138 00:07:52,161 --> 00:07:54,366 comics, sports, and practical jokes 139 00:07:54,366 --> 00:07:57,796 like destroying planets with his father's death-ray. 140 00:07:57,796 --> 00:08:00,503 He'll be sadly missed. 141 00:08:00,503 --> 00:08:02,339 Would anyone like to say a few words? 142 00:08:02,339 --> 00:08:05,393 (eerie screeching} 143 00:08:08,184 --> 00:08:10,649 Is the Starchild Skull the most important 144 00:08:10,649 --> 00:08:13,781 archaeological discovery ever made? 145 00:08:13,781 --> 00:08:16,369 Not everyone thinks so. 146 00:08:17,495 --> 00:08:21,296 Yale University neurology professor, Steven Novella, 147 00:08:21,296 --> 00:08:24,010 has studied the Starchild Skull, and claims 148 00:08:24,010 --> 00:08:27,317 its appearance is nothing unusual. 149 00:08:27,558 --> 00:08:29,436 - Going through medical school and training as a neurologist 150 00:08:29,436 --> 00:08:31,617 I've seen many examples 151 00:08:31,617 --> 00:08:34,613 of similar kinds of deformities before. 152 00:08:34,613 --> 00:08:36,838 There are lots of genetic anomalies 153 00:08:36,838 --> 00:08:39,915 that produce abnormalities or deformities. 154 00:08:39,915 --> 00:08:41,962 - [William] Novella's research has led him to believe 155 00:08:41,962 --> 00:08:45,301 the Starchild skull belonged to a human suffering 156 00:08:45,301 --> 00:08:49,311 from a medical condition called hydrocephalus. 157 00:08:49,811 --> 00:08:51,647 - Hydrocephalus is a term that literally 158 00:08:51,647 --> 00:08:53,270 means water on the brain, 159 00:08:53,270 --> 00:08:55,413 and what happens is that the fluid that's 160 00:08:55,413 --> 00:08:58,286 normally inside and around the brain 161 00:08:58,286 --> 00:09:00,624 does not flow like it normally should, 162 00:09:00,624 --> 00:09:03,462 and that causes the water and the pressure 163 00:09:03,462 --> 00:09:07,053 to build up inside the brain and inside the skull. 164 00:09:07,053 --> 00:09:09,350 In young children, where the bones of the skull 165 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:12,146 have not yet fused, this can cause the skull 166 00:09:12,146 --> 00:09:16,113 to balloon out, sometimes even to incredible size. 167 00:09:16,113 --> 00:09:18,953 In an adult, where all the bones of the skull 168 00:09:18,953 --> 00:09:21,503 have completely fused together, 169 00:09:21,503 --> 00:09:24,046 then the hydrocephalus would just cause 170 00:09:24,046 --> 00:09:26,635 increased pressure on the brain, 171 00:09:26,635 --> 00:09:29,556 but not an expansion of the skull itself. 172 00:09:29,556 --> 00:09:33,899 (eerie music) 173 00:09:34,067 --> 00:09:36,278 - [William] For Novella, it's this ballooning that explains 174 00:09:36,278 --> 00:09:39,478 the Starchild Skull's unusual appearance. 175 00:09:39,619 --> 00:09:41,914 - The overall size and shape of the skull 176 00:09:41,914 --> 00:09:44,837 and the arrangement of the deformities 177 00:09:44,837 --> 00:09:47,260 matches pictures of children and skulls 178 00:09:47,260 --> 00:09:49,262 of people with hydrocephalus. 179 00:09:49,262 --> 00:09:51,182 Certainly, I've seen pictures of many of them 180 00:09:51,182 --> 00:09:54,399 which look very similar to the Starchild skull. 181 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:55,865 - [William] Sadly, there would have been no treatment 182 00:09:55,865 --> 00:09:58,530 for this painful condition in the era 183 00:09:58,530 --> 00:10:02,454 from which the Starchild Skull belongs. 184 00:10:02,538 --> 00:10:04,292 - The modern treatment for hydrocephalus 185 00:10:04,292 --> 00:10:07,298 is to train the fluid out from inside the brain. 186 00:10:07,298 --> 00:10:09,054 It reverses all of the abnormal 187 00:10:09,054 --> 00:10:10,805 effects of the hydrocephalus. 188 00:10:10,805 --> 00:10:13,185 This is a modern neurosurgical treatment, however, 189 00:10:13,185 --> 00:10:15,483 this would not have been available prior 190 00:10:15,483 --> 00:10:20,069 to 50 or 60 years ago, let alone hundreds of years ago. 191 00:10:20,449 --> 00:10:22,207 - [William] So, does this mean that we've yet 192 00:10:22,207 --> 00:10:25,624 to play host to intergalactic visitors? 193 00:10:25,835 --> 00:10:27,589 - I have nothing against the notion 194 00:10:27,589 --> 00:10:29,718 that there are aliens in the universe. 195 00:10:29,718 --> 00:10:32,056 I think it would be really cool. 196 00:10:32,056 --> 00:10:34,102 I just don't think this skull is it. 197 00:10:34,102 --> 00:10:37,279 This is not the evidence of anything alien. 198 00:10:38,026 --> 00:10:40,996 Lloyd Pye would have you believe that this one skull, 199 00:10:40,996 --> 00:10:42,248 this one bit of evidence, 200 00:10:42,248 --> 00:10:44,874 which really has been very imperfectly examined, 201 00:10:44,874 --> 00:10:48,089 is enough to rewrite everything that we know. 202 00:10:48,089 --> 00:10:50,509 Of course, he's been making that claim for years. 203 00:10:50,509 --> 00:10:52,890 Everything you think you know is wrong. 204 00:10:52,890 --> 00:10:54,092 That's sort of his shtick, 205 00:10:54,092 --> 00:10:56,816 alternative science, alternative history. 206 00:10:56,816 --> 00:10:58,973 He wants us to brush aside hundreds 207 00:10:58,973 --> 00:11:02,535 of years of evidence and expertise. 208 00:11:02,535 --> 00:11:05,415 He thinks all scientists are close-minded and wrong, 209 00:11:05,415 --> 00:11:08,754 and therefore, he can come up with any fantasy he likes 210 00:11:08,754 --> 00:11:10,467 and present that as the truth 211 00:11:10,467 --> 00:11:14,302 because he can just ignore all of established science. 212 00:11:15,685 --> 00:11:17,856 - [William] So, is this the end of the mystery? 213 00:11:17,856 --> 00:11:20,820 Did the Starchild skull belong to a human 214 00:11:20,820 --> 00:11:22,949 suffering from hydrocephalus? 215 00:11:22,949 --> 00:11:27,166 Trenton Holiday and John Verano are professors 216 00:11:27,166 --> 00:11:30,589 of anthropology at the University of Tulane. 217 00:11:30,589 --> 00:11:32,932 They have a different take. 218 00:11:32,932 --> 00:11:34,473 - Originally when I saw the skull 219 00:11:34,473 --> 00:11:37,271 I suspected it might have suffered from hydrocephaly. 220 00:11:37,271 --> 00:11:40,027 However, I have since revised my opinion on that. 221 00:11:40,027 --> 00:11:43,152 I don't think it was a hydrocephalus individual. 222 00:11:43,616 --> 00:11:47,122 - [William] So, if not an alien and not hydrocephalic 223 00:11:47,122 --> 00:11:50,760 just who was the Starchild? 224 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,387 - The most unusual of this Starchild Skull 225 00:11:53,387 --> 00:11:54,971 is just the shape of the skull. 226 00:11:54,971 --> 00:11:57,479 It's flattened in the back, it's bulged at the sides, 227 00:11:57,479 --> 00:12:00,524 and I can explain that very easily by cradleboarding. 228 00:12:00,524 --> 00:12:02,362 - [William] Cradleboarding was an early solution 229 00:12:02,362 --> 00:12:05,502 to a problem many of us face today, 230 00:12:05,502 --> 00:12:07,580 making kids portable. 231 00:12:07,580 --> 00:12:09,083 - Cradleboarding was a very common 232 00:12:09,083 --> 00:12:10,809 practice in South America. 233 00:12:10,809 --> 00:12:13,597 It was originally done as a means of restraining 234 00:12:13,597 --> 00:12:16,807 the infant so that they can be brought out into the fields. 235 00:12:16,807 --> 00:12:19,580 It also was done for aesthetic reasons. 236 00:12:20,106 --> 00:12:22,527 - [William] But how could a simple baby carrying device 237 00:12:22,527 --> 00:12:26,661 create the bizarre shape of the Starchild Skull? 238 00:12:26,661 --> 00:12:30,166 - Here's an example of an actual cradleboard from Peru. 239 00:12:30,166 --> 00:12:32,672 I've strapped on a doll to give you an idea 240 00:12:32,672 --> 00:12:35,010 of the way an infant would be put on it, 241 00:12:35,010 --> 00:12:37,479 and then here you can see how the head is strapped down. 242 00:12:37,479 --> 00:12:39,435 A strap goes over the forehead and goes over 243 00:12:39,435 --> 00:12:43,193 at the back of the skull, holds the child's head in place, 244 00:12:43,193 --> 00:12:46,449 allows it to move, probably, from side to side, 245 00:12:46,449 --> 00:12:49,163 and in fact, many of these are asymmetrical, 246 00:12:49,163 --> 00:12:50,708 which suggests that they were lying 247 00:12:50,708 --> 00:12:53,798 habitually to one side or another. 248 00:12:54,883 --> 00:12:58,097 - [William] But cradleboarding have a side effect. 249 00:12:58,097 --> 00:12:59,981 As the skull was compressed from one direction, 250 00:12:59,981 --> 00:13:01,934 it grew in the other to make room 251 00:13:01,934 --> 00:13:05,015 for the baby's rapidly developing brain. 252 00:13:05,905 --> 00:13:08,161 - This was a child's skull that was cradleboarded. 253 00:13:08,161 --> 00:13:10,289 It's bulging out on the two sides 254 00:13:10,289 --> 00:13:12,250 and that's because there's pressure that was put 255 00:13:12,250 --> 00:13:14,005 on the back side of the skull. 256 00:13:14,005 --> 00:13:16,594 What you can see is the way the skull is flattened 257 00:13:16,594 --> 00:13:19,766 in the back and it's kind of bulging up from the side, 258 00:13:19,766 --> 00:13:22,397 giving it this unusual shape that if you didn't know 259 00:13:22,397 --> 00:13:23,776 about cradleboarding, you might think 260 00:13:23,776 --> 00:13:27,004 boy that's a bizarre looking human skull. 261 00:13:27,364 --> 00:13:28,617 - [William] Were the strange features 262 00:13:28,617 --> 00:13:31,455 of the Starchild Skull caused by 263 00:13:31,455 --> 00:13:34,628 an ancient child-carrying device? 264 00:13:34,628 --> 00:13:37,635 Or is the truth way more bizarre? 265 00:13:37,635 --> 00:13:42,587 - The Starchild had an alien father and an alien mother. 266 00:13:44,901 --> 00:13:48,282 - [William] The features of a 900-year-old skull 267 00:13:48,282 --> 00:13:50,827 puzzle the scientific community. 268 00:13:50,827 --> 00:13:55,399 Some offer practical explanations such as cradleboarding. 269 00:13:55,719 --> 00:13:58,022 Others disagree. 270 00:13:58,022 --> 00:14:02,726 - When a skull is cradleboarded, a baby's bones are so soft 271 00:14:02,726 --> 00:14:06,902 that they flatten, so that if you feel this, it's very flat, 272 00:14:06,902 --> 00:14:09,207 as flat as the board that it was pressed to. 273 00:14:09,207 --> 00:14:12,670 The Starchild has its natural convolutions to it. 274 00:14:12,670 --> 00:14:16,420 So, what that means is it was not flattened artificially, 275 00:14:16,420 --> 00:14:18,134 it grew this way. 276 00:14:18,134 --> 00:14:20,894 Its genes told it to grow. 277 00:14:20,894 --> 00:14:23,143 Now, another interesting difference is that 278 00:14:23,143 --> 00:14:27,150 a normal human the crown of the head is round 279 00:14:27,150 --> 00:14:31,576 all the way around here, rounded, rounded. 280 00:14:31,576 --> 00:14:33,665 If you look at the Starchild you see clearly 281 00:14:33,665 --> 00:14:37,214 that there is a crease here down the middle. 282 00:14:37,214 --> 00:14:40,386 A crease, and that could only occur 283 00:14:40,386 --> 00:14:45,260 if the suture, this suture line right here, had been fused, 284 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:49,278 in a human, was fused early and then you could 285 00:14:49,278 --> 00:14:52,035 have a shape like this where the brain would grow 286 00:14:52,035 --> 00:14:54,705 out and around and that wouldn't really spread out 287 00:14:54,705 --> 00:14:57,396 because the suture line would be prematurely fused. 288 00:14:57,396 --> 00:14:59,233 But we CAT scanned the Starchild 289 00:14:59,233 --> 00:15:00,777 and all of its sutures are open. 290 00:15:00,777 --> 00:15:02,404 There's no premature fusing. 291 00:15:02,404 --> 00:15:05,853 It's very normal and also it's very symmetrical. 292 00:15:05,853 --> 00:15:07,695 If you look at the whole skull, 293 00:15:07,695 --> 00:15:09,660 it's extraordinarily symmetrical 294 00:15:09,660 --> 00:15:11,615 for as strange as it looks, 295 00:15:11,615 --> 00:15:14,119 it's more symmetrical than the human skull. 296 00:15:14,119 --> 00:15:16,379 It's more symmetrical than my skull 297 00:15:16,379 --> 00:15:18,962 or any average person's skull. 298 00:15:18,962 --> 00:15:21,008 In fact, one of the hallmark's of beauty, 299 00:15:21,008 --> 00:15:24,182 everyone agrees, is that the most symmetrical 300 00:15:24,182 --> 00:15:28,524 faces are the most beautiful in people, tend to be, 301 00:15:28,524 --> 00:15:31,278 so, that too, is very different. 302 00:15:31,278 --> 00:15:34,617 Now, another aspect of extreme difference 303 00:15:35,078 --> 00:15:36,877 between the Starchild and a human 304 00:15:36,877 --> 00:15:38,585 is the thickness of the bone 305 00:15:38,585 --> 00:15:41,132 and we can see that very closely here, 306 00:15:41,132 --> 00:15:42,346 you see the difference. 307 00:15:42,346 --> 00:15:45,141 It's half or less, the Starchild's 308 00:15:45,141 --> 00:15:48,834 bone is half or less as thick. 309 00:15:48,834 --> 00:15:52,362 It weighs half as much, it's very much lighter 310 00:15:52,362 --> 00:15:55,698 in the hand than is a human skull. 311 00:15:56,536 --> 00:15:58,924 - [William] So, if it's not cradleboarding 312 00:15:58,924 --> 00:16:02,298 could hydrocephaly have deformed the skull? 313 00:16:02,298 --> 00:16:06,560 - Anybody that says the Starchild is a hydrocephalic 314 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,646 is missing a very important point. 315 00:16:09,646 --> 00:16:12,110 When you look at standard hydrocephalic pictures 316 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:15,077 you see it's blown up all around. 317 00:16:15,077 --> 00:16:18,827 There's no significant features like this. 318 00:16:19,208 --> 00:16:21,504 This grew this way because its genes 319 00:16:21,504 --> 00:16:23,951 told it to grow that way. 320 00:16:23,951 --> 00:16:25,470 - [William] Having dismissed the opinion 321 00:16:25,470 --> 00:16:29,687 of traditional science, Lloyd undertook his own research. 322 00:16:29,687 --> 00:16:33,100 His findings are astonishing. 323 00:16:33,570 --> 00:16:36,409 - What makes the Starchild skull different 324 00:16:36,409 --> 00:16:40,832 is that there are 25 major physical differences 325 00:16:40,832 --> 00:16:43,925 between it and human skulls. 326 00:16:43,925 --> 00:16:46,846 There's not one part of it that's exactly like a human. 327 00:16:46,846 --> 00:16:49,142 It is completely different and what that indicates 328 00:16:49,142 --> 00:16:52,641 is that its genes are radically different. 329 00:16:53,151 --> 00:16:55,537 - [William] But does this mean the Starchild Skull 330 00:16:55,537 --> 00:16:59,169 could only be of extraterrestrial origin? 331 00:16:59,169 --> 00:17:02,587 In 2003, DNA technology allowed Pye 332 00:17:02,587 --> 00:17:04,881 to put his theory to the test. 333 00:17:04,881 --> 00:17:08,599 - We got the first test by a laboratory 334 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,814 that was capable of doing ancient DNA, 335 00:17:11,814 --> 00:17:13,988 and the answer that they got was 336 00:17:13,988 --> 00:17:16,822 that the mother was human and the father was not. 337 00:17:16,822 --> 00:17:19,447 Clearly, something is wrong with the father. 338 00:17:19,447 --> 00:17:21,628 The father's not human. 339 00:17:21,628 --> 00:17:24,002 - [William] Is the Starchild Skull evidence 340 00:17:24,002 --> 00:17:27,469 that aliens bred with humans? 341 00:17:27,469 --> 00:17:30,188 Native American legends tell stories 342 00:17:30,188 --> 00:17:33,230 strikingly similar to Pye's theory. 343 00:17:33,230 --> 00:17:35,370 - There would be beings from the stars 344 00:17:35,370 --> 00:17:38,616 who would come down from the skies, pick a woman 345 00:17:38,616 --> 00:17:41,706 in a village and they would make her pregnant. 346 00:17:41,706 --> 00:17:45,004 So, the Starchild fit right into that. 347 00:17:45,004 --> 00:17:46,757 - [William] But as technology advances, 348 00:17:46,757 --> 00:17:50,975 so does the story of the Starchild skull. 349 00:17:51,434 --> 00:17:55,399 In early 2011, a new DNA test led Lloyd 350 00:17:55,399 --> 00:17:58,697 to an even more astonishing claim. 351 00:17:58,697 --> 00:18:01,706 - The conclusion that we've come to now after several 352 00:18:01,706 --> 00:18:06,692 DNA tests and an extensive analysis of those results is that 353 00:18:06,882 --> 00:18:11,355 the Starchild had an alien father and an alien mother 354 00:18:11,355 --> 00:18:14,145 and when I say alien, I mean non-human. 355 00:18:14,145 --> 00:18:16,066 The difference is so stark. 356 00:18:16,066 --> 00:18:17,486 The difference is so wide. 357 00:18:17,486 --> 00:18:20,996 There is no way that we can call this a human. 358 00:18:21,337 --> 00:18:22,789 - [William] Is this the first physical 359 00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:26,044 evidence that aliens exist? 360 00:18:26,044 --> 00:18:28,514 Lloyd has no doubt. 361 00:18:28,883 --> 00:18:31,053 - It's going to change human history 362 00:18:31,053 --> 00:18:34,102 to have to accept that at least once, 363 00:18:34,102 --> 00:18:38,901 900 years ago, an alien being walked the Earth, 364 00:18:38,901 --> 00:18:42,786 lived here, died here, and was buried here. 365 00:18:42,786 --> 00:18:46,889 This is the equivalent of landing on the moon. 366 00:18:47,545 --> 00:18:49,968 - [William] What is the Starchild skull? 367 00:18:49,968 --> 00:18:52,639 For now it remains an enigma. 368 00:18:52,639 --> 00:18:54,519 Did it belong to a deformed child 369 00:18:54,519 --> 00:18:57,274 or an ancient adult with a disease of the brain? 370 00:18:57,274 --> 00:19:02,211 Is it conclusive evidence that we are not alone? 371 00:19:02,951 --> 00:19:06,417 Weird or what? 372 00:19:06,417 --> 00:19:11,421 (dramatic music) 373 00:19:17,046 --> 00:19:19,868 (drum music) 374 00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:23,617 You know, I've always had a fascination 375 00:19:23,617 --> 00:19:26,581 with the relics of the ancient past 376 00:19:26,581 --> 00:19:28,795 and I'm not just talking about The Beatles 377 00:19:28,795 --> 00:19:31,676 or The Rolling Stones or Leonard Nimoy. 378 00:19:31,676 --> 00:19:33,557 No, no, no, no, no, 379 00:19:33,557 --> 00:19:36,741 when it comes to our far distant history, 380 00:19:37,021 --> 00:19:40,359 there's nothing quite as spectacular, 381 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,715 mysterious and even frightening 382 00:19:44,716 --> 00:19:47,859 as dinosaurs. 383 00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:50,965 Surely, the king of all creatures, 384 00:19:50,965 --> 00:19:53,680 real life monsters that dominated the planet 385 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,018 until something wiped them out 386 00:19:56,018 --> 00:19:58,561 long before man even evolved. 387 00:19:58,561 --> 00:20:02,195 What a pity that we only find them now 388 00:20:02,195 --> 00:20:06,656 in museums or as cute toys. 389 00:20:10,419 --> 00:20:11,838 Can you imagine what it would be like 390 00:20:11,838 --> 00:20:14,511 to see one in the flesh? 391 00:20:14,511 --> 00:20:18,108 Well, maybe we already have 392 00:20:19,060 --> 00:20:22,569 and maybe we still can. 393 00:20:22,569 --> 00:20:25,769 (dinosaur roar) 394 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:31,867 Weird (dinosaur roar) or what? (dinosaur roar) 395 00:20:33,048 --> 00:20:35,927 Adventurer Dennis Swift travels the world 396 00:20:35,927 --> 00:20:38,159 in search of the ancient artifacts, 397 00:20:38,159 --> 00:20:41,858 but nothing he's found compares to a discovery 398 00:20:41,858 --> 00:20:46,536 made in Ica, Peru by a man named Javier Cabrera. 399 00:20:46,536 --> 00:20:49,414 - Dr. Cabrera made the greatest discovery 400 00:20:49,414 --> 00:20:51,793 in the history of mankind. 401 00:20:51,793 --> 00:20:54,503 The implications are staggering. 402 00:20:55,344 --> 00:20:56,720 - [William] It began innocently enough 403 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,518 at a birthday party in 1966. 404 00:20:59,518 --> 00:21:02,944 - It was Dr. Cabrera's 42nd birthday. 405 00:21:02,944 --> 00:21:04,528 - [William] One of the doctor's oldest friends 406 00:21:04,528 --> 00:21:07,908 brings him a special gift. 407 00:21:07,908 --> 00:21:10,707 - Dr. Cabrera was given a stone. 408 00:21:10,707 --> 00:21:14,883 It was found in some official archaeological excavations. 409 00:21:14,883 --> 00:21:16,344 - [William] The stone was carved 410 00:21:16,344 --> 00:21:18,805 by an ancient Peruvian tribe. 411 00:21:18,805 --> 00:21:20,643 His friend thinks it's a trinket, 412 00:21:20,643 --> 00:21:24,776 but the Dr. makes a discovery that sets his heart racing. 413 00:21:25,277 --> 00:21:30,223 Etched into the stone, is an image that defies explanation. 414 00:21:30,624 --> 00:21:33,168 - He recognized it to be a species of fish 415 00:21:33,168 --> 00:21:36,718 that went extinct 150 million years ago. 416 00:21:36,718 --> 00:21:39,453 Now how do you explain that? 417 00:21:42,227 --> 00:21:44,315 - [William] Seeking answers, the Dr. employs 418 00:21:44,315 --> 00:21:47,738 local workmen to find more stones. 419 00:21:47,738 --> 00:21:50,832 - Dr. Cabrera began to find more of these stones 420 00:21:50,832 --> 00:21:52,959 and people brought them to him. 421 00:21:52,959 --> 00:21:57,134 The more he delved into it, the more it consumed his life. 422 00:21:57,134 --> 00:21:59,971 - [William] As more and more stones arrived 423 00:21:59,971 --> 00:22:03,439 Dr. Cabrera realizes they feature other images 424 00:22:03,439 --> 00:22:05,777 that just shouldn't have been there. 425 00:22:05,777 --> 00:22:07,095 - Some of the stones seemed 426 00:22:07,095 --> 00:22:09,483 to be depicting impossible scenes, 427 00:22:09,483 --> 00:22:12,866 things that would cause the textbooks to be rewritten. 428 00:22:14,115 --> 00:22:17,192 - [William] What had the doctor found? 429 00:22:17,192 --> 00:22:21,432 It was something that would shock the world. 430 00:22:21,432 --> 00:22:24,150 - He risked his reputation. 431 00:22:24,150 --> 00:22:26,495 He said if you look closely at this, you'll see 432 00:22:26,495 --> 00:22:29,464 a dinosaur carved there with two people. 433 00:22:29,864 --> 00:22:33,288 - [William] It's an astonishing moment, but how could it be? 434 00:22:33,288 --> 00:22:37,673 Dinosaur fossils weren't identified until 1824. 435 00:22:37,673 --> 00:22:39,386 How could an ancient people have known 436 00:22:39,386 --> 00:22:41,847 about them a thousand years ago? 437 00:22:41,847 --> 00:22:45,146 - Finding artifacts and information that showed 438 00:22:45,146 --> 00:22:48,234 that these people had knowledge of dinosaurs 439 00:22:48,234 --> 00:22:52,003 that predated our knowledge was truly amazing. 440 00:22:52,644 --> 00:22:54,890 - [William] But could it proved? 441 00:22:54,890 --> 00:22:57,111 (dramatic music) 442 00:22:57,111 --> 00:22:58,243 After comparing the etchings 443 00:22:58,243 --> 00:23:00,728 on over 400 stones to real fossils, 444 00:23:00,728 --> 00:23:03,660 he discovered the depictions were accurate. 445 00:23:03,660 --> 00:23:07,321 The Peruvian artists must have known 446 00:23:07,321 --> 00:23:09,932 what dinosaurs looked like. 447 00:23:10,403 --> 00:23:14,563 - Now, not only is that astonishing, it began to say to him 448 00:23:14,563 --> 00:23:17,209 they saw living breathing dinosaurs. 449 00:23:17,209 --> 00:23:20,967 This is one of archaeology's most baffling enigmas. 450 00:23:20,967 --> 00:23:23,735 - [William] Did the dinosaurs live millions of years 451 00:23:23,735 --> 00:23:26,019 longer that we thought they did? 452 00:23:26,019 --> 00:23:29,943 - I've studied the Ica stones for well over 20 years. 453 00:23:29,943 --> 00:23:33,785 I believe they are very substantial, strong evidence 454 00:23:33,785 --> 00:23:36,381 that dinosaurs and man lived together. 455 00:23:36,582 --> 00:23:38,776 - [William] Current scientific belief is that the dinosaurs 456 00:23:38,776 --> 00:23:42,343 were wiped out by an astroid 66 million years ago, 457 00:23:42,343 --> 00:23:45,432 (dramatic music) 458 00:23:45,432 --> 00:23:50,233 59 million years before early man even existed. 459 00:23:50,233 --> 00:23:54,366 Swift, however, believes there's evidence to the contrary. 460 00:23:54,366 --> 00:23:56,581 - In the cultures around the world, 461 00:23:56,581 --> 00:23:59,880 they talk about encountering these animals 462 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,426 of giant size and they fit the description 463 00:24:03,426 --> 00:24:05,724 of what we would call a dinosaur. 464 00:24:05,724 --> 00:24:08,060 Of course, "dinosaur" was not coined 465 00:24:08,060 --> 00:24:11,192 until 1841 by Sir Edward Owen. 466 00:24:11,192 --> 00:24:13,030 It's a compound Greek word that means 467 00:24:13,030 --> 00:24:16,160 terrible lizard or frightfully fearful lizard. 468 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,087 If you read the science books of the 1300s, 1400s, and 1500s 469 00:24:21,087 --> 00:24:23,342 when they talk about dragons, 470 00:24:23,342 --> 00:24:26,894 they resemble very much what we would 471 00:24:26,894 --> 00:24:29,353 describe as a dinosaur, 472 00:24:29,353 --> 00:24:33,110 and in fact, there's an account of an Irishman in 900 AD 473 00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:35,783 who encountered a beast that had like 474 00:24:35,783 --> 00:24:37,746 triangular shaped, diamond shapes on its back. 475 00:24:37,746 --> 00:24:40,505 It had a head like a horse, and it had big 476 00:24:40,505 --> 00:24:42,926 iron spikes on the back of his tail, 477 00:24:42,926 --> 00:24:45,093 and it describes its legs. 478 00:24:45,093 --> 00:24:47,379 Well, what animal could that be? 479 00:24:47,379 --> 00:24:50,236 It could only be a stegosaurus. 480 00:24:50,236 --> 00:24:51,942 I've been with the American Indians 481 00:24:51,942 --> 00:24:53,735 and they say, "we don't like to tell White people 482 00:24:53,735 --> 00:24:55,322 "cause they make fun of us," 483 00:24:55,322 --> 00:24:57,535 but they believe their ancestors fought 484 00:24:57,535 --> 00:25:00,672 against what we would call a triceratops. 485 00:25:01,124 --> 00:25:04,552 - [William] Could some dinosaurs have survived extinction? 486 00:25:04,672 --> 00:25:08,362 Did they walk among ancient Peruvians? 487 00:25:08,853 --> 00:25:11,354 For Swift, the artifacts uncannily 488 00:25:11,354 --> 00:25:14,192 accurate proportions don't lie. 489 00:25:14,192 --> 00:25:16,660 - Here's a styracosaurus on the stone. 490 00:25:16,660 --> 00:25:18,416 Does it have dermal spines? Yeah. 491 00:25:18,416 --> 00:25:20,792 Does the tail sticking out when it's walking? Yes. 492 00:25:20,792 --> 00:25:23,547 Does it have three toes? Yes. 493 00:25:23,547 --> 00:25:25,506 Alright, so it's a dinosaur. 494 00:25:25,506 --> 00:25:26,968 - [William] But if Swift is right, 495 00:25:26,968 --> 00:25:28,597 there's an even bigger question. 496 00:25:28,597 --> 00:25:30,976 If dinosaurs walked the Earth with humans 497 00:25:30,976 --> 00:25:33,609 only a relatively short time ago, 498 00:25:33,609 --> 00:25:35,530 then what happened to them? 499 00:25:35,530 --> 00:25:37,991 And where are they? 500 00:25:37,991 --> 00:25:40,453 - I believe that they existed from a few thousand 501 00:25:40,453 --> 00:25:43,542 years ago to maybe 500 years ago 502 00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:45,761 and there's a possibility that there 503 00:25:45,761 --> 00:25:47,682 could be a handful left. 504 00:25:47,682 --> 00:25:50,849 There was a Frenchman in 1967, I believe, 505 00:25:50,849 --> 00:25:53,650 he even took photographs of a footprint 506 00:25:53,650 --> 00:25:57,613 that's three-toed, it's huge, and it has a claw on the back. 507 00:25:57,613 --> 00:26:00,494 Only a dinosaur had that kind of a footprint. 508 00:26:00,494 --> 00:26:03,470 So, yeah, dinosaurs could be out there. 509 00:26:03,791 --> 00:26:06,673 - Oh boy, this is incredible. 510 00:26:06,673 --> 00:26:09,356 I mean that guy thinks that dinosaurs 511 00:26:09,356 --> 00:26:11,433 are still roaming the Earth. 512 00:26:11,433 --> 00:26:14,772 Wow, let's think about what that means. 513 00:26:14,772 --> 00:26:17,781 Not a lot of room left on the planet. 514 00:26:17,781 --> 00:26:20,032 so they're going to have to share our neighborhoods, right? 515 00:26:20,032 --> 00:26:23,289 Maybe we could have one as a pet. 516 00:26:23,289 --> 00:26:25,975 You imagine keeping one in your backyard? 517 00:26:26,295 --> 00:26:28,835 Woo. 518 00:26:29,385 --> 00:26:31,687 I think not. 519 00:26:31,717 --> 00:26:34,724 Has somebody got a pooper-scooper? 520 00:26:34,724 --> 00:26:36,281 A big one. 521 00:26:37,092 --> 00:26:40,823 Did man and dinosaur coexist? 522 00:26:40,823 --> 00:26:43,400 Should we rip up our history books? 523 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,131 - I think that people actually watch the Flintstones 524 00:26:46,131 --> 00:26:48,556 and think it's reality programming. 525 00:26:51,219 --> 00:26:53,558 - [William] Ancient Peruvian stone carvings 526 00:26:53,558 --> 00:26:55,770 pose a shocking question, 527 00:26:55,770 --> 00:27:00,775 did our ancient ancestors walk alongside dinosaurs? 528 00:27:01,495 --> 00:27:05,205 Archaeologist Ken Feder doesn't think so. 529 00:27:05,205 --> 00:27:07,630 - I think that people actually watch the Flintstones 530 00:27:07,630 --> 00:27:09,631 and think it's reality programming. 531 00:27:09,631 --> 00:27:11,510 It's not, it's a cartoon, folks. 532 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:14,015 Fred did not have a pet dinosaur. 533 00:27:14,015 --> 00:27:16,604 That really didn't happen. 534 00:27:16,604 --> 00:27:18,148 - [William] But how can Feder be sure 535 00:27:18,148 --> 00:27:20,486 humans never saw dinosaurs? 536 00:27:20,486 --> 00:27:22,287 He points to the tens of thousands 537 00:27:22,287 --> 00:27:24,452 of fossils collected worldwide 538 00:27:24,452 --> 00:27:28,319 which confirm they died out 66 million years ago. 539 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,343 - We have a whole lot of evidence that dinosaurs 540 00:27:31,343 --> 00:27:33,434 died off long before there were people. 541 00:27:33,434 --> 00:27:35,808 and the fact that we have a bunch of stones with carvings 542 00:27:35,808 --> 00:27:37,771 and people riding around on dinosaurs 543 00:27:37,771 --> 00:27:40,648 is not strong evidence at all. 544 00:27:40,909 --> 00:27:44,243 - [William] But if ancient Peruvians didn't see dinosaurs 545 00:27:44,243 --> 00:27:47,750 how do we explain the Ica stones? 546 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:49,795 - They're fakes. They're hoaxes. 547 00:27:49,795 --> 00:27:52,309 The story of the Ica stones from start to finish 548 00:27:52,309 --> 00:27:55,430 mirrors the stories of lots of other archaeological hoaxes. 549 00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:57,855 It starts small, but once it becomes clear 550 00:27:57,855 --> 00:28:00,233 that there's a guy willing to buy some stones, 551 00:28:00,233 --> 00:28:02,489 suddenly we have thousands of these things, 552 00:28:02,489 --> 00:28:03,825 and the actual stones themselves 553 00:28:03,825 --> 00:28:06,018 become more and more elaborate. 554 00:28:06,528 --> 00:28:08,046 - [William] Rather than finding them in caves, 555 00:28:08,046 --> 00:28:09,475 could the Peruvian peasants simply 556 00:28:09,475 --> 00:28:11,958 have made the stones themselves? 557 00:28:11,958 --> 00:28:14,269 There's only one way to find out. 558 00:28:14,269 --> 00:28:17,101 Art student, Justine McGraw has been asked 559 00:28:17,101 --> 00:28:21,149 to test Feder's theory that the stones are merely fakes. 560 00:28:21,149 --> 00:28:23,237 She's going to attempt to replicate the stones 561 00:28:23,237 --> 00:28:25,458 using basic tools. 562 00:28:26,539 --> 00:28:28,749 - So, I begin by just copying out the image. 563 00:28:28,749 --> 00:28:33,343 It's a very simple line drawing. 564 00:28:34,844 --> 00:28:38,600 - [William] The drawing complete, Justine begins carving. 565 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,514 She uses a power tool for speed, 566 00:28:40,514 --> 00:28:44,234 but the etching could easily be done by hand. 567 00:28:44,866 --> 00:28:46,997 Although the pattern is complete, 568 00:28:46,997 --> 00:28:51,001 the stone doesn't have an ancient look. 569 00:28:51,001 --> 00:28:53,724 Justine has an inexpensive solution. 570 00:28:53,724 --> 00:28:54,889 - I'm going to cover the stone 571 00:28:54,889 --> 00:28:58,474 in a mixture of manure and olive oil. 572 00:28:59,852 --> 00:29:02,315 - [William] It's a rather down to earth solution. 573 00:29:02,315 --> 00:29:05,456 Her method of baking the stones is equally low-tech, 574 00:29:05,456 --> 00:29:08,841 but could some manure, olive oil, and a barbecue 575 00:29:08,841 --> 00:29:12,693 really recreate the mysterious Ica stones? 576 00:29:13,184 --> 00:29:15,132 - After just three hours of baking, 577 00:29:15,132 --> 00:29:18,770 this is what my Ica stone looks like. 578 00:29:20,101 --> 00:29:22,313 - [William] For Feder, the results of this 579 00:29:22,313 --> 00:29:24,484 experiment are decisive. 580 00:29:24,484 --> 00:29:26,413 - You have two possible explanations in science, 581 00:29:26,413 --> 00:29:29,243 one that requires overturning everything that we know 582 00:29:29,243 --> 00:29:31,332 and one that simply requires that people 583 00:29:31,332 --> 00:29:33,334 are trying to make a buck by hoaxing. 584 00:29:33,334 --> 00:29:34,712 So, it's a lot easier for me to accept 585 00:29:34,712 --> 00:29:37,135 the possibility that people are making fakes 586 00:29:37,135 --> 00:29:39,236 than to completely rewrite everything we know 587 00:29:39,236 --> 00:29:42,757 about geology, biology, an so on. 588 00:29:43,108 --> 00:29:46,612 This compressing, this sort of pushing all of human history 589 00:29:46,612 --> 00:29:48,741 into just a few thousand years 590 00:29:48,741 --> 00:29:51,037 is sort of absurd on its face. 591 00:29:51,037 --> 00:29:54,177 Again, when you have a convergence of evidence, 592 00:29:54,177 --> 00:29:57,603 convergence of data, archaeological evidence separate, 593 00:29:57,603 --> 00:30:00,565 geological evidence separate, biological evidence, 594 00:30:00,565 --> 00:30:03,045 separate, paleontological evidence separate, 595 00:30:03,045 --> 00:30:04,328 historic evidence separate, 596 00:30:04,328 --> 00:30:07,145 and when all that data converges 597 00:30:07,445 --> 00:30:10,287 that points in exactly the same direction in ancient earth, 598 00:30:10,287 --> 00:30:13,331 dinosaurs dying off tens of millions of years ago, 599 00:30:13,331 --> 00:30:16,129 first human ancestors five, six, seven million years ago, 600 00:30:16,129 --> 00:30:17,758 walking upright in the plains of Africa. 601 00:30:17,758 --> 00:30:19,302 All of that evidence converges. 602 00:30:19,302 --> 00:30:21,435 It all is mutually supportive. 603 00:30:21,435 --> 00:30:24,274 This notion, there really isn't any place 604 00:30:24,274 --> 00:30:29,030 in that history for people riding their dinosaurs 605 00:30:29,030 --> 00:30:31,579 to the drive-in movie theater. 606 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:34,498 - [William] Is this the end of the mystery? 607 00:30:34,498 --> 00:30:37,673 Are the Ica stones just fakes? 608 00:30:37,673 --> 00:30:41,306 Author Andy Lloyd is not so sure. 609 00:30:41,726 --> 00:30:44,018 - They weren't just created in someone's shed 610 00:30:44,018 --> 00:30:46,398 in the back garden 20 years ago. 611 00:30:46,398 --> 00:30:48,445 Some scientific work that has been done on them 612 00:30:48,445 --> 00:30:50,405 appears to indicate that there is a degree 613 00:30:50,405 --> 00:30:52,876 of oxidation over the engravings 614 00:30:52,876 --> 00:30:56,251 which would indicate that they're of some antiquity. 615 00:30:56,251 --> 00:31:00,011 - [William] So, if the stones really are ancient 616 00:31:00,011 --> 00:31:02,723 that proves that the images they depict 617 00:31:02,723 --> 00:31:04,350 must have happened, right? 618 00:31:04,350 --> 00:31:07,108 Well, not necessarily. 619 00:31:07,108 --> 00:31:09,486 - I don't think that's very very likely 620 00:31:09,486 --> 00:31:11,532 that man and dinosaur could have shared 621 00:31:11,532 --> 00:31:13,035 the Earth at any time. 622 00:31:13,035 --> 00:31:16,249 However, that's not to say that there isn't something 623 00:31:16,249 --> 00:31:18,885 rather wonderful about the Ica stones in this regard, 624 00:31:18,885 --> 00:31:21,676 and one of the ideas that I've put forward 625 00:31:21,676 --> 00:31:25,558 is that the makers of the Ica stones, the artists 626 00:31:25,558 --> 00:31:27,439 from Ancient Peru who created them 627 00:31:27,439 --> 00:31:29,948 may have received knowledge about dinosaurs 628 00:31:29,948 --> 00:31:33,382 from ancient civilizations whose own understanding 629 00:31:33,382 --> 00:31:36,958 of the dinosaurs was as good as ours. 630 00:31:37,041 --> 00:31:38,461 - [William] Civilizations stretching back 631 00:31:38,461 --> 00:31:42,553 to ancient Greece unearthed dinosaur remains. 632 00:31:42,553 --> 00:31:45,142 They thought they were the bones of giants, 633 00:31:45,142 --> 00:31:48,156 but what if some ancient civilization 634 00:31:48,156 --> 00:31:50,901 did know what they were? 635 00:31:50,901 --> 00:31:54,093 Who could have done such a thing? 636 00:31:55,411 --> 00:31:57,414 - Atlantis is an excellent candidate 637 00:31:57,414 --> 00:31:59,337 because the discussions and descriptions of Atlantis 638 00:31:59,337 --> 00:32:01,211 show that it was a very technologically 639 00:32:01,211 --> 00:32:04,515 advanced civilization for it's time. 640 00:32:04,515 --> 00:32:06,771 - [William] The lost city of Atlantis, 641 00:32:06,771 --> 00:32:09,438 an advanced ancient civilization that is said 642 00:32:09,438 --> 00:32:10,989 to have flourished around the time 643 00:32:10,989 --> 00:32:14,616 of the ice age before falling into the ocean. 644 00:32:14,616 --> 00:32:19,005 Could Atlantians have discovered dinosaurs? 645 00:32:19,209 --> 00:32:21,587 - We can speculate that the Atlantians had a very 646 00:32:21,587 --> 00:32:25,054 good understanding of natural history 647 00:32:25,054 --> 00:32:28,269 because their ability with science and technology 648 00:32:28,269 --> 00:32:31,028 was evidently quite far advanced 649 00:32:31,028 --> 00:32:33,570 and they would have probably dug up dinosaur bones 650 00:32:33,570 --> 00:32:35,959 during their mining expeditions and piece 651 00:32:35,959 --> 00:32:39,540 together a dinosaur in the same way that we did. 652 00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:41,503 - [William] But many believe Atlantis 653 00:32:41,503 --> 00:32:44,342 to be little more than a legend based on stories 654 00:32:44,342 --> 00:32:47,514 told by the Greek philosopher, Plato. 655 00:32:47,514 --> 00:32:51,044 Is this strong enough evidence of its existence? 656 00:32:52,193 --> 00:32:55,907 - We can't authenticate the existence of Atlantis 657 00:32:55,907 --> 00:32:58,454 through anything other than Plato's writings, 658 00:32:58,454 --> 00:33:00,332 but some of his writings are some of the most 659 00:33:00,332 --> 00:33:02,792 important literature from that period. 660 00:33:02,792 --> 00:33:04,674 It seems odd that it's a story 661 00:33:04,674 --> 00:33:07,054 that Plato would have made up. 662 00:33:07,054 --> 00:33:08,849 This has been the missing Atlantian link 663 00:33:08,849 --> 00:33:13,110 in our understanding of ancient civilizations and knowledge. 664 00:33:13,275 --> 00:33:15,870 - [William] Could the Atlantians have traveled the world, 665 00:33:15,870 --> 00:33:19,186 spreading a knowledge that was kept alive in stories and art 666 00:33:19,186 --> 00:33:21,740 or could the Ica stones be definitive proof 667 00:33:21,740 --> 00:33:26,259 that our ancestors shared the Earth with dinosaurs? 668 00:33:26,259 --> 00:33:31,264 Or are they one of the most elaborate hoaxes of all time? 669 00:33:31,312 --> 00:33:34,818 Perhaps, one day we'll know for sure, but in the mean time, 670 00:33:34,818 --> 00:33:39,795 it's most certainly weird or what? 671 00:33:39,795 --> 00:33:42,591 (dramatic music) 672 00:33:55,045 --> 00:33:57,574 A 2,000-year-old wooden model excavated 673 00:33:57,574 --> 00:34:02,579 from Egypt's oldest pyramid reveals an amazing secret. 674 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,508 Did the ancients invent modern flight? 675 00:34:07,508 --> 00:34:09,393 - It could have been launched easily 676 00:34:09,393 --> 00:34:11,224 from the top of a pyramid. 677 00:34:11,224 --> 00:34:12,396 - You know, I like to think of myself 678 00:34:12,396 --> 00:34:16,193 as a bit of an adventurer, sort of an Indiana Jones 679 00:34:16,193 --> 00:34:20,495 if you'd like, Raaa, 680 00:34:21,041 --> 00:34:25,421 Let's see, I've been all over the world 681 00:34:25,711 --> 00:34:29,772 and collected some amazing relics. 682 00:34:31,954 --> 00:34:34,342 Wrong relic. 683 00:34:35,689 --> 00:34:40,228 Of course, some are more amazing than others. 684 00:34:42,328 --> 00:34:47,314 And some make you wonder what they might say 685 00:34:50,971 --> 00:34:53,056 if they could talk. 686 00:34:53,056 --> 00:34:55,729 But can you imagine 687 00:34:55,729 --> 00:34:59,403 finding something that could truly change the world? 688 00:34:59,403 --> 00:35:02,418 Well, here it is. 689 00:35:06,251 --> 00:35:08,088 Saqqara, Egypt. 690 00:35:08,088 --> 00:35:10,967 In one of the country's oldest burial grounds, 691 00:35:10,967 --> 00:35:14,225 French archaeologists begin to unearth 692 00:35:14,225 --> 00:35:18,455 the burial tomb of the third century BC official, 693 00:35:18,455 --> 00:35:21,656 Pa-di-Imen. 694 00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:25,664 Among the artifacts recovered is what looks 695 00:35:25,664 --> 00:35:29,311 to be a model of a bird. 696 00:35:30,882 --> 00:35:33,468 It's cataloged and stored at the Cairo Museum 697 00:35:33,468 --> 00:35:35,975 for over 70 years. 698 00:35:35,975 --> 00:35:38,523 But no one could predict the shock waves 699 00:35:38,523 --> 00:35:43,374 Special Register 6347 would soon make. 700 00:35:46,204 --> 00:35:49,127 The late Egyptologist, Dr. Khalil Messiha 701 00:35:49,127 --> 00:35:52,758 realized the model was very unusual. 702 00:35:52,758 --> 00:35:56,897 It leads him to a breathtaking conclusion. 703 00:35:57,788 --> 00:36:01,068 - Dr. Messiha had found evidence of what appears 704 00:36:01,068 --> 00:36:03,701 to be a glider or an airplane. 705 00:36:03,701 --> 00:36:05,206 Something that the ancient Egyptians 706 00:36:05,206 --> 00:36:07,915 supposedly didn't have. 707 00:36:10,628 --> 00:36:12,341 - [William] Author, David Childress thinks 708 00:36:12,341 --> 00:36:17,346 Dr. Messiha has much to teach historians and the world. 709 00:36:19,396 --> 00:36:23,738 - To me the research of Dr. Khalil Messiha is very important 710 00:36:23,738 --> 00:36:27,662 because here we have a mainstream Egyptologist 711 00:36:27,662 --> 00:36:32,255 finding an artifact that we know is authentic 712 00:36:32,255 --> 00:36:34,890 coming from over 2,000 years ago, 713 00:36:34,890 --> 00:36:39,895 a model, a very miniature model of an airplane, 714 00:36:40,975 --> 00:36:44,990 much like the early airplanes that were built 715 00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:48,663 in America and around the world at the turn of the century. 716 00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:52,675 - [William] Could the artifact be a model 717 00:36:52,675 --> 00:36:54,883 of an ancient flying machine? 718 00:36:54,883 --> 00:36:57,473 It's a stunning revelation. 719 00:36:57,473 --> 00:36:59,227 Our histories tell us, the first powered 720 00:36:59,227 --> 00:37:02,274 human flight was in 1903. 721 00:37:02,274 --> 00:37:05,153 If Dr. Messiha is correct, the ancient Egyptians 722 00:37:05,153 --> 00:37:06,782 may have beaten the Wright Brothers 723 00:37:06,782 --> 00:37:08,955 by over 2,000 years. 724 00:37:08,955 --> 00:37:12,628 (drum music) 725 00:37:12,628 --> 00:37:14,422 Although met with initial skepticism, 726 00:37:14,422 --> 00:37:17,096 tests by leading aeronautical engineers, 727 00:37:17,096 --> 00:37:20,023 proved that the model, now known as the Saqqara Bird, 728 00:37:20,023 --> 00:37:23,293 was designed for flight. 729 00:37:26,447 --> 00:37:30,496 - Ancient cultures have many stories of flight, 730 00:37:30,496 --> 00:37:35,207 of the mannas, of magic carpets, of flying chariots, 731 00:37:36,050 --> 00:37:40,811 but here with the Saqqara Bird, we have an actual model 732 00:37:40,811 --> 00:37:43,105 of what could be an ancient airplane. 733 00:37:43,105 --> 00:37:45,067 (dramatic music) 734 00:37:45,067 --> 00:37:46,698 - [William] Did the ancient Egyptians 735 00:37:46,698 --> 00:37:48,490 experiment with flight? 736 00:37:48,490 --> 00:37:52,657 Is the artifact a model of a full-sized glider or plane? 737 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,631 - It's very important that we find artifacts 738 00:37:56,631 --> 00:37:59,972 like the Saqqara Bird and other strange artifacts 739 00:37:59,972 --> 00:38:03,753 from these ancient cultures because it really helps us 740 00:38:04,524 --> 00:38:09,529 place their legends and myths in context. such as flight. 741 00:38:10,995 --> 00:38:14,710 Is it possible that they actually had flight 742 00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:16,422 like we do today? 743 00:38:16,422 --> 00:38:18,571 And I think they did. 744 00:38:18,571 --> 00:38:21,024 - [William] Is the Saqqara Bird proof 745 00:38:21,024 --> 00:38:23,686 that the ancient Egyptians had technology 746 00:38:23,686 --> 00:38:25,982 2,000 years ahead of its time? 747 00:38:25,982 --> 00:38:29,114 And if they did, how did they get it? 748 00:38:29,114 --> 00:38:32,915 - This is going to throw Egyptology and the way we view 749 00:38:32,915 --> 00:38:36,721 ancient civilizations completely topsy-turvy. 750 00:38:37,631 --> 00:38:38,925 - [William] A man discovers a model 751 00:38:38,925 --> 00:38:41,847 wooden bird in a Cairo museum. 752 00:38:41,847 --> 00:38:44,978 Is the Saqqara Bird proof the Egyptians took 753 00:38:44,978 --> 00:38:47,791 to the skies 2,000 years ago? 754 00:38:48,903 --> 00:38:53,908 Katja Goebs is an Egyptologist, she has her doubts. 755 00:38:53,956 --> 00:38:58,045 - When I first heard that the Saqqara Bird was being used 756 00:38:58,045 --> 00:39:01,554 to support such claims of early aviation, 757 00:39:01,554 --> 00:39:04,895 I was completely taken aback. 758 00:39:04,895 --> 00:39:07,441 Certainly, they were fascinated with the skies. 759 00:39:07,441 --> 00:39:10,655 They believed that their dead ascended to the sky 760 00:39:10,655 --> 00:39:13,577 to become celestial gods after death. 761 00:39:13,577 --> 00:39:16,918 Their chief deities were seen to be 762 00:39:16,918 --> 00:39:18,464 traveling through the sky, 763 00:39:18,464 --> 00:39:21,551 the sun god being most important there. 764 00:39:21,551 --> 00:39:23,344 But there is no evidence whatsoever 765 00:39:23,344 --> 00:39:26,821 to suggest that the Egyptians had an interest in aviation. 766 00:39:27,898 --> 00:39:29,776 - [William] But if the Saqqara Bird was not 767 00:39:29,776 --> 00:39:33,116 the model of a glider, what was it? 768 00:39:33,116 --> 00:39:35,497 - The symbol of a bird is extremely important 769 00:39:35,497 --> 00:39:39,170 within the Egyptian religious and political system. 770 00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:42,933 We find them used in the hieroglyphic writing system. 771 00:39:42,933 --> 00:39:46,718 We find them as images protecting the king. 772 00:39:47,937 --> 00:39:50,275 - [William] One bird in particular, the falcon, 773 00:39:50,275 --> 00:39:54,389 had a role which explains why it would be placed in a tomb. 774 00:39:54,830 --> 00:39:57,875 - The deceased Egyptian wishes to ascend to the sky 775 00:39:57,875 --> 00:40:02,468 and it sometimes says he does so on falcon's wings. 776 00:40:02,468 --> 00:40:04,975 In particular, the falcon with the outstretched wings, 777 00:40:04,975 --> 00:40:07,267 you will find at the back of the king's head 778 00:40:07,267 --> 00:40:10,984 indicating that he is afforded the protection of the gods 779 00:40:10,984 --> 00:40:13,805 and he is, in fact, Horus on Earth. 780 00:40:13,805 --> 00:40:18,810 And we find amuletic representations of falcons 781 00:40:19,125 --> 00:40:22,798 as protective devices in funerary contexts, 782 00:40:22,798 --> 00:40:24,601 that means in Egyptian tombs, 783 00:40:24,601 --> 00:40:27,056 decorating the coffins of the dead, 784 00:40:27,056 --> 00:40:31,524 being placed as little protective object, amulets 785 00:40:31,524 --> 00:40:35,533 on the actual mummies or painted on the coffins, 786 00:40:35,533 --> 00:40:38,247 painted on the sides of the, 787 00:40:38,247 --> 00:40:41,554 sorry, on the walls of the tombs, and so forth. 788 00:40:42,838 --> 00:40:44,802 - [William] There's one problem though. 789 00:40:44,802 --> 00:40:46,263 The Saqqara Bird looks nothing like 790 00:40:46,263 --> 00:40:48,602 the other Egyptian falcons, 791 00:40:48,602 --> 00:40:52,986 so what can explain its flat tail and plane-like wing? 792 00:40:52,986 --> 00:40:55,698 - It is not unheard of that toys 793 00:40:55,698 --> 00:40:57,785 were given to deceased children 794 00:40:57,785 --> 00:40:59,883 and they would be put into their tombs 795 00:40:59,883 --> 00:41:02,378 so they would be accessible for their afterlife 796 00:41:02,378 --> 00:41:05,175 and for their eternal pleasure. 797 00:41:05,175 --> 00:41:07,001 - [William] Could the mysterious artifact be nothing 798 00:41:07,001 --> 00:41:09,517 more than a simple child's toy? 799 00:41:09,517 --> 00:41:11,312 Are the smooth body and flat tail 800 00:41:11,312 --> 00:41:13,984 the result of armature craftsmanship 801 00:41:13,984 --> 00:41:16,099 and not deliberate design? 802 00:41:16,099 --> 00:41:18,792 - Even thought there are a few idiosyncrasies 803 00:41:18,792 --> 00:41:21,625 in its representation the Saqqara Bird 804 00:41:21,625 --> 00:41:25,257 is most likely an image of a falcon. 805 00:41:25,257 --> 00:41:27,680 There is no evidence that the Egyptians 806 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,318 experimented with aviation technology. 807 00:41:30,318 --> 00:41:33,107 The claim is ludicrous to say the least, 808 00:41:33,107 --> 00:41:36,070 so it is not inconceivable that the Saqqara Bird 809 00:41:36,070 --> 00:41:39,580 was a toy that was given to a child 810 00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:41,546 or even to an adult who wanted to take 811 00:41:41,546 --> 00:41:45,550 his favorite childhood toy with him in to the afterlife. 812 00:41:49,012 --> 00:41:52,395 - [William] Are we reading too much into an ancient toy? 813 00:41:52,395 --> 00:41:55,556 Not everyone thinks so. 814 00:41:57,113 --> 00:41:58,867 - Artifacts like the Saqqara Bird are important 815 00:41:58,867 --> 00:42:01,414 because science likes to think 816 00:42:01,414 --> 00:42:04,168 it's got everything explained. 817 00:42:04,168 --> 00:42:07,426 We can explain how the Egyptians built the pyramids 818 00:42:07,426 --> 00:42:09,470 and all of their ancient technology, 819 00:42:09,470 --> 00:42:13,435 but items like the Saqqara Bird throw a monkey wrench 820 00:42:13,435 --> 00:42:15,022 into some of these old theories 821 00:42:15,022 --> 00:42:18,905 because suddenly it's possible that the ancient Egyptians 822 00:42:18,905 --> 00:42:22,664 and other civilizations could do much like we did 823 00:42:22,664 --> 00:42:26,755 and have flight, have electricity, have machines. 824 00:42:26,755 --> 00:42:29,133 When we look at ancient civilizations 825 00:42:29,133 --> 00:42:31,013 like the ancient Egyptians, 826 00:42:31,013 --> 00:42:35,273 we see that they made so many magnificent buildings 827 00:42:35,273 --> 00:42:38,820 and their sciences were very exact. 828 00:42:38,820 --> 00:42:41,245 They were good engineers. 829 00:42:41,245 --> 00:42:45,965 They studied nature tremendously. 830 00:42:45,965 --> 00:42:49,677 So the Saqqara Bird seems to indicate that yes, 831 00:42:49,677 --> 00:42:53,522 the ancient Egyptians knew about flight and had it. 832 00:42:54,313 --> 00:42:56,063 - [William] But how can Childress be so sure 833 00:42:56,063 --> 00:42:59,630 that what looks like a bird is really a model airplane? 834 00:43:00,572 --> 00:43:04,540 - It's clearly an aerodynamic design 835 00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:06,752 and not just some simple toy. 836 00:43:06,752 --> 00:43:10,968 The wings are at what is known as the dihedral angle. 837 00:43:10,968 --> 00:43:15,315 That's a special angle that the wings of a glider 838 00:43:15,315 --> 00:43:19,439 have to be at in order to achieve lift. 839 00:43:19,860 --> 00:43:22,365 And the Saqqara Bird has that. 840 00:43:22,825 --> 00:43:25,994 - [William] So, the wings are airworthy, 841 00:43:25,994 --> 00:43:28,941 but what about the tail? 842 00:43:29,091 --> 00:43:32,595 - Dr. Messiha had also found evidence that the very top 843 00:43:32,595 --> 00:43:36,018 part of the tail rudder had been broken off, 844 00:43:36,018 --> 00:43:39,776 and he theorized that it had in fact had also 845 00:43:39,776 --> 00:43:44,781 another vertical tail much like a modern jet would have. 846 00:43:47,208 --> 00:43:49,921 - [William] But if the Saqqara Bird was a model 847 00:43:49,921 --> 00:43:53,678 of an ancient glider, there's one big problem. 848 00:43:53,684 --> 00:43:58,689 Where in Egypt's flat desert could you glide from? 849 00:43:58,855 --> 00:44:03,161 - If it was a glider, it could have been launched easily 850 00:44:03,161 --> 00:44:05,827 from the top of a pyramid, perhaps, 851 00:44:05,827 --> 00:44:08,815 much like hang-gliders themselves launch today 852 00:44:08,815 --> 00:44:12,257 off of cliffs and mountains, or even 853 00:44:12,257 --> 00:44:16,515 the Egyptians could have developed a relatively 854 00:44:16,515 --> 00:44:21,191 primitive catapult type of launching system 855 00:44:21,191 --> 00:44:25,617 that would have given this glider the power 856 00:44:25,617 --> 00:44:29,752 to get in the air and then fly over areas of Egypt. 857 00:44:29,752 --> 00:44:34,080 I believe that the ancient Egyptians and other civilizations 858 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,993 had powered flight, as well as gliders 859 00:44:37,993 --> 00:44:40,989 and airships and balloons 860 00:44:40,989 --> 00:44:45,075 and even they had electricity and lights, 861 00:44:45,075 --> 00:44:49,122 even they must have had power tools in some of their cases 862 00:44:49,122 --> 00:44:51,921 to build some of the buildings they had. 863 00:44:51,921 --> 00:44:53,422 - [William] Were the crowning achievements 864 00:44:53,422 --> 00:44:58,057 of Egyptian civilization used as a launch pad 865 00:44:58,057 --> 00:45:01,072 by an ancient pair of Wright Brothers? 866 00:45:01,072 --> 00:45:03,989 - If scientists are right that this is a model 867 00:45:03,989 --> 00:45:06,281 of a functioning glider, 868 00:45:06,281 --> 00:45:10,123 this is going to throw Egyptology and the way we view 869 00:45:10,123 --> 00:45:13,370 ancient civilizations completely topsy-turvy. 870 00:45:14,423 --> 00:45:15,844 - Okay, this is blowing my mind. 871 00:45:15,844 --> 00:45:18,480 Are they honestly trying to tell me that this 2,000-year-old 872 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,313 ugly duckling is evidence of an ancient mastery 873 00:45:21,313 --> 00:45:25,291 of the laws of aerodynamics, that it could fly? 874 00:45:26,196 --> 00:45:28,161 Well, there's only one way to find out. 875 00:45:28,161 --> 00:45:33,166 (suspenseful music) 876 00:45:35,089 --> 00:45:37,041 Anybody got any glue? 877 00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:45,405 A simple bird replica or evidence of early flight, 878 00:45:45,405 --> 00:45:48,867 what is the Saqqara Bird? 879 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,128 Martin Gregorie designs gliders. 880 00:45:54,128 --> 00:45:57,133 He thinks he knows the answer. 881 00:45:57,133 --> 00:45:59,638 - When I first heard the Saqqara Bird was to model 882 00:45:59,638 --> 00:46:03,980 for a full-sized airplane, I was skeptical to say the least. 883 00:46:03,980 --> 00:46:07,153 I knew for a start that the ancient Egyptians 884 00:46:07,153 --> 00:46:09,576 didn't have anything that could be used as an engine 885 00:46:09,576 --> 00:46:14,581 to power an airplane and that gives you the clue 886 00:46:14,794 --> 00:46:19,799 because Egypt's pretty flat and you're going to need 887 00:46:20,264 --> 00:46:23,396 some way of getting the airplane into the air, 888 00:46:23,396 --> 00:46:26,902 and you also, if you're going to use it for carrying cargo, 889 00:46:26,902 --> 00:46:29,698 going to need something to power it, 890 00:46:29,698 --> 00:46:31,827 so it can travel a useful distance. 891 00:46:31,827 --> 00:46:34,549 I decided the only way I could find out 892 00:46:34,549 --> 00:46:37,588 if the Saqqara Bird could have been a flying model 893 00:46:37,588 --> 00:46:40,326 was to build one myself. 894 00:46:41,556 --> 00:46:43,767 - [William] Using the exact dimensions 895 00:46:43,767 --> 00:46:45,481 of the ancient artifact, 896 00:46:45,481 --> 00:46:48,236 Gregorie constructs an identical replica. 897 00:46:48,236 --> 00:46:50,490 He'll launch it with a device used 898 00:46:50,490 --> 00:46:53,028 to test scale glider models. 899 00:46:53,749 --> 00:46:57,254 - I'm just about to launch the Saqqara Bird 900 00:46:57,254 --> 00:47:00,010 in its original form as it came out of the pyramid 901 00:47:00,010 --> 00:47:01,166 with no tail plane. 902 00:47:01,166 --> 00:47:05,043 (buzzing) 903 00:47:05,043 --> 00:47:05,640 (click) 904 00:47:08,974 --> 00:47:12,369 That flight did what I expected it to do. 905 00:47:12,369 --> 00:47:14,452 It's lack of aerodynamics kicked in 906 00:47:14,452 --> 00:47:17,904 and it tumbled and fell to the ground. 907 00:47:18,254 --> 00:47:20,467 - [William] The test is conclusive. 908 00:47:20,467 --> 00:47:23,664 - A model of that size needs a stabilizing tail. 909 00:47:24,475 --> 00:47:27,689 - [William] Dr. Messiha believed that the Saqqara Bird 910 00:47:27,689 --> 00:47:29,995 originally had a tail, 911 00:47:30,405 --> 00:47:32,493 which had snapped off with age. 912 00:47:32,493 --> 00:47:35,044 Could a tail make a difference? 913 00:47:35,624 --> 00:47:38,627 - Next we're going to launch the Saqqara Bird again, 914 00:47:38,627 --> 00:47:40,966 but this time fit it with a tail plane. 915 00:47:40,966 --> 00:47:43,425 This will stabilize it and let us see 916 00:47:43,425 --> 00:47:46,227 how good or poor a glider it is. 917 00:47:46,227 --> 00:47:47,847 (buzzing) 918 00:47:47,847 --> 00:47:50,487 - [William] 2,000 years of history 919 00:47:50,487 --> 00:47:52,657 hang on this one test. 920 00:47:53,468 --> 00:47:54,649 (click) 921 00:47:54,649 --> 00:47:59,649 (eerie music) 922 00:48:03,593 --> 00:48:05,514 It travels further but not much. 923 00:48:05,514 --> 00:48:07,480 The end results are the same. 924 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,942 - The wing has rounded edges 925 00:48:09,942 --> 00:48:13,573 and that just doesn't generate very much lift at all. 926 00:48:13,573 --> 00:48:16,913 And in terms of stability, all modern airplanes 927 00:48:16,913 --> 00:48:20,252 have the wing bent up at the tips for stability 928 00:48:20,252 --> 00:48:24,515 instead of swooping down like this one does. 929 00:48:24,593 --> 00:48:25,847 - [William] So, does the experiment prove 930 00:48:25,847 --> 00:48:28,727 that the Saqqara Bird was really a child's toy? 931 00:48:28,727 --> 00:48:32,472 Following his experiment, Gregorie has a theory of his own. 932 00:48:33,405 --> 00:48:37,163 - I think there's a possibility that it was a wind vane. 933 00:48:37,163 --> 00:48:41,211 I discarded the child's toy theory on the grounds 934 00:48:41,211 --> 00:48:45,929 that all real birds have a flat, horizontal tail 935 00:48:45,929 --> 00:48:47,890 rather than a vertical fin 936 00:48:47,890 --> 00:48:52,283 and most children will be able to recognize the difference 937 00:48:52,283 --> 00:48:56,867 and not fooled by the presence of the fin. 938 00:48:58,163 --> 00:49:00,708 To find out whether it was, 939 00:49:00,708 --> 00:49:03,048 could have been a wind vane, 940 00:49:03,048 --> 00:49:05,428 I put a pivot on the belly of it 941 00:49:05,428 --> 00:49:09,393 and as you can see, I think it's a far better 942 00:49:09,393 --> 00:49:12,774 weather vane than it is a flying model. 943 00:49:14,234 --> 00:49:18,368 - [William] So, is the answer to a 2,000-year-old mystery 944 00:49:18,368 --> 00:49:20,748 really blowing in the wind? 945 00:49:20,748 --> 00:49:23,923 Was the Saqqara Bird simply an ancient play thing? 946 00:49:23,923 --> 00:49:26,092 Or could it be evidence of mankind's 947 00:49:26,092 --> 00:49:28,702 first attempt at flight? 948 00:49:29,808 --> 00:49:32,178 We may never know. 949 00:49:32,981 --> 00:49:34,643 Weird or what? 950 00:49:35,112 --> 00:49:39,616 (dramatic music) 951 00:49:43,650 --> 00:49:46,753 (drum music) 952 00:49:49,616 --> 00:49:52,021 So, there we have it. 953 00:49:52,021 --> 00:49:54,289 Three ancient artifacts that bring into question 954 00:49:54,289 --> 00:49:57,569 everything we understand about history. 955 00:49:59,618 --> 00:50:03,180 A bizarrely shaped skull is found in a Mexican cave. 956 00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:07,561 Is it proof that aliens once visited Earth? 957 00:50:10,014 --> 00:50:12,560 Scenes depicted on ancient stone carvings 958 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,460 question our natural history. 959 00:50:16,151 --> 00:50:20,032 Did man and dinosaur share our planet? 960 00:50:22,163 --> 00:50:26,170 And a 2,000-year-old wooden model suggests the impossible. 961 00:50:26,170 --> 00:50:29,283 Did an ancient civilization fly? 962 00:50:31,224 --> 00:50:33,303 You decide. 963 00:50:35,398 --> 00:50:37,568 Join me again next time for more stories 964 00:50:37,568 --> 00:50:42,558 that will undoubtedly be weird or what? 965 00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:47,129 (dramatic music) 76757

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