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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,441 --> 00:00:08,642 Holy Fuck. 2 00:00:16,250 --> 00:00:18,586 So like a car must have crashed into that semi or something, 3 00:00:18,586 --> 00:00:20,388 a bunch of cars. 4 00:00:20,388 --> 00:00:22,590 I wonder if maybe something hit that first. 5 00:00:23,157 --> 00:00:24,258 Is there two semis? 6 00:00:25,093 --> 00:00:26,694 I Don't know. 7 00:00:27,595 --> 00:00:29,497 You see the one on fire there to the left there 8 00:00:29,497 --> 00:00:30,531 is a big something... 9 00:00:32,133 --> 00:00:33,567 I can't even see through the smoke. 10 00:00:39,373 --> 00:00:41,409 You gotta look inside the thing and see if it 11 00:00:41,409 --> 00:00:42,810 says record or not. R-E-C. 12 00:00:42,810 --> 00:00:43,477 Oh Okay. 13 00:00:43,477 --> 00:00:45,079 Yeah, it's going on? 14 00:00:45,079 --> 00:00:46,314 - Yeah. - Alright cool. 15 00:00:47,548 --> 00:00:51,119 We were just zooming up the highway and like I saw this like 16 00:00:51,119 --> 00:00:54,088 fucking black billowing smoke like coming out and we didn't 17 00:00:54,088 --> 00:00:55,823 know what was happening, we thought like there was a house 18 00:00:55,823 --> 00:00:57,091 burning down or something... 19 00:00:57,091 --> 00:01:00,094 I get panic attacks, I get panic attacks just driving 20 00:01:00,094 --> 00:01:05,233 down the road because I'm all of a sudden back in Alabama, 21 00:01:05,233 --> 00:01:07,568 it's always- 22 00:01:07,568 --> 00:01:12,206 I'm there, it's fast, and it's so scary 23 00:01:12,206 --> 00:01:14,342 because that guy hit us from behind. 24 00:01:14,908 --> 00:01:17,311 And it wasn't anything I was doing, I was just driving good 25 00:01:17,311 --> 00:01:18,779 and normal down the road, right? 26 00:01:18,779 --> 00:01:20,114 I didn't make any mistakes. 27 00:01:20,114 --> 00:01:24,385 That guy smashed us from behind and forever changed everything. 28 00:01:27,621 --> 00:01:29,657 I think we had something special. 29 00:01:31,325 --> 00:01:34,628 I don't think that that beauty that we could create, that art, 30 00:01:34,628 --> 00:01:37,231 would just have ended. 31 00:01:37,665 --> 00:01:39,567 Holy fuck you guys, look what we did... 32 00:01:40,268 --> 00:01:42,403 and then look what we did. 33 00:01:43,537 --> 00:01:46,140 We were young and mean to each other and we just were so 34 00:01:46,140 --> 00:01:48,842 focused on the art at all costs. 35 00:01:51,179 --> 00:01:53,547 And it cost us a lot in the end. 36 00:02:18,406 --> 00:02:19,840 Hey man how's it going, it's Ryan. 37 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,542 Hey Ryan, good, how are you? 38 00:02:21,542 --> 00:02:22,710 Good good, can you hear me all right? 39 00:02:22,710 --> 00:02:24,545 I can hear you just fine. 40 00:02:24,545 --> 00:02:26,680 Ok, I'm going to see if I can make you louder here. 41 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,681 OK. 42 00:02:29,617 --> 00:02:34,455 I'm here with Stu, who is rejoining the band for the tour. 43 00:02:34,455 --> 00:02:35,889 Oh, that's nice, yeah. 44 00:02:35,889 --> 00:02:37,658 Thanks for hopping on I appreciate it. 45 00:02:37,658 --> 00:02:39,693 What are the notes on the-- 46 00:02:39,693 --> 00:02:42,730 What's it like being back together after all that time? 47 00:02:42,730 --> 00:02:45,466 Um, It feels like no time has passed and a lot of 48 00:02:45,466 --> 00:02:46,900 time has passed. 49 00:02:54,575 --> 00:02:56,977 I remember the idea coming up a number of years ago. 50 00:02:56,977 --> 00:02:59,447 And I don't think we specifically thought like 51 00:02:59,447 --> 00:03:01,382 a ten-year anniversary was the way to go, we were just talking 52 00:03:01,382 --> 00:03:03,351 about getting together and doing some shows. Cause we never 53 00:03:03,351 --> 00:03:06,220 really did like a last show with Jesse or anything like that. 54 00:03:06,687 --> 00:03:08,756 I have only sang two days. 55 00:03:08,756 --> 00:03:12,426 I sang the very first day and made my voice sound like this. 56 00:03:12,426 --> 00:03:14,662 So I took two days off, and I sang yesterday, 57 00:03:14,662 --> 00:03:16,697 and this is the result again. 58 00:03:16,697 --> 00:03:19,300 So I'll take today off, and tomorrow. 59 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,677 I'm really enjoying it, I think everybody else is too, and 60 00:03:29,677 --> 00:03:32,646 you know, we wrote these songs ten years ago, and we've all 61 00:03:32,646 --> 00:03:36,850 been active musicians over the last decade, so I kind of think 62 00:03:36,850 --> 00:03:38,752 if anything we are playing the songs better than we would have 63 00:03:38,752 --> 00:03:39,987 ten years ago. 64 00:03:39,987 --> 00:03:42,690 Yeah, it's nice too cause Jesse has something about 65 00:03:42,690 --> 00:03:44,992 him as a singer that's very honest and passionate and 66 00:03:44,992 --> 00:03:46,894 I don't know if I realized how much I missed that, 67 00:03:46,894 --> 00:03:48,462 but I definitely did. 68 00:03:49,830 --> 00:03:52,700 awesome so, what happened with, why did Jesse 69 00:03:52,700 --> 00:03:55,403 leave and then why did you leave Stu? 70 00:03:55,403 --> 00:04:00,574 Um, I mean, there was a lot of differences about how we 71 00:04:00,574 --> 00:04:05,779 thought the band should happen and kind of what direction we 72 00:04:05,779 --> 00:04:09,783 wanted to go and he and I rubbed each other the wrong way a 73 00:04:09,783 --> 00:04:13,321 little bit on some of our personal stuff and it was 74 00:04:13,321 --> 00:04:15,989 definitely a situation where we weren't going to really be able 75 00:04:15,989 --> 00:04:17,825 to continue working together. 76 00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:22,396 But, um, yeah yeah we... 77 00:04:23,997 --> 00:04:25,966 I guess that's probably all I need to say about that. 78 00:04:27,668 --> 00:04:29,670 Things in the past that might have been bumps in the 79 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:32,306 road, things that might have caused disagreements and 80 00:04:32,306 --> 00:04:35,943 arguments, everybody is just kinder and older and wiser and 81 00:04:35,943 --> 00:04:39,447 knows how to deal with these situations a lot better now. 82 00:04:39,447 --> 00:04:41,081 It had to eventually happen, if we were more mature 83 00:04:41,081 --> 00:04:43,684 we probably would have done a little bit more and made it last 84 00:04:43,684 --> 00:04:46,354 a little longer, which is one of the reasons it's good we're 85 00:04:46,354 --> 00:04:48,856 doing this tour, to revisit the record as probably the era ended 86 00:04:48,856 --> 00:04:50,958 a little prematurely. 87 00:04:50,958 --> 00:04:53,994 Anything unresolved about that doesn't really apply to these 88 00:04:53,994 --> 00:04:57,565 shows you know it's not about the split, it's about the album, 89 00:04:57,565 --> 00:04:59,967 and about trying to celebrate the time when the five of us 90 00:04:59,967 --> 00:05:01,635 were a band. 91 00:05:02,069 --> 00:05:03,837 It's a good band, man. 92 00:05:03,837 --> 00:05:05,606 There's no disputing, they're such a good band. 93 00:05:07,708 --> 00:05:09,977 So this is a temporary thing I take it then 94 00:05:09,977 --> 00:05:11,445 or like what? 95 00:05:11,445 --> 00:05:13,447 Yeah it's just for ten shows. 96 00:05:14,715 --> 00:05:17,785 Just for the ten shows? So after this Stu you go back to 97 00:05:17,785 --> 00:05:21,455 your other stuff, and Jesse goes back and Karl's back in and... 98 00:05:21,855 --> 00:05:23,457 Yep. -Yep. 99 00:05:29,397 --> 00:05:30,664 No people ask me that question every day 100 00:05:30,664 --> 00:05:31,632 that I do an interview. 101 00:05:31,632 --> 00:05:32,833 But it seems like it's 102 00:05:32,833 --> 00:05:35,403 never really been publicized, or has it? Cause I thought 103 00:05:35,403 --> 00:05:38,506 the whole thing was like he just left to be a teacher? 104 00:05:39,607 --> 00:05:42,443 I've talked openly about it here and there, pretty much 105 00:05:42,443 --> 00:05:45,813 what I said like he had different ideas about... 106 00:05:45,813 --> 00:05:48,549 he's just real stubborn about the way he wants things to be 107 00:05:48,549 --> 00:05:52,620 handled, and that turned into being us fighting about every 108 00:05:52,620 --> 00:05:53,754 single decision, so- 109 00:05:53,754 --> 00:05:55,789 Do you think that will bother him though to see that 110 00:05:55,789 --> 00:05:57,625 sort of stuff publicized? 111 00:05:57,625 --> 00:05:59,059 I don't think so. I don't think so. 112 00:05:59,059 --> 00:06:01,495 Like I said we're both at a pretty good point with it. 113 00:06:01,495 --> 00:06:04,131 I don't think I threw him under the bus with that really. 114 00:06:05,032 --> 00:06:08,101 Because I don't think it's more his fault than mine, I just 115 00:06:08,101 --> 00:06:12,706 think it's more a problem that he had with everyone in the band 116 00:06:12,706 --> 00:06:16,644 than I did, cause you know my problem was just with him so, 117 00:06:16,644 --> 00:06:19,547 it's like I shouldn't leave the band you know? 118 00:06:19,547 --> 00:06:21,449 I don't know. 119 00:06:23,216 --> 00:06:25,453 Hey I just wanted to say sorry for not doing the 120 00:06:25,453 --> 00:06:27,555 interview thing today. 121 00:06:27,555 --> 00:06:30,190 You seemed a touch bummed or something so I just wanted to 122 00:06:30,190 --> 00:06:32,926 make sure you knew where I was coming from. 123 00:06:34,227 --> 00:06:36,964 This whole thing is super hard on this guy's heart. 124 00:06:38,599 --> 00:06:41,569 I've had a lot of fun this week but there have been a ton 125 00:06:41,569 --> 00:06:44,171 of mixed emotions throughout. You guys really hurt 126 00:06:44,171 --> 00:06:47,441 me in the past and I likely hurt y'all as well. 127 00:06:47,441 --> 00:06:50,511 I'm just not the same person as I was back then so whole trip 128 00:06:50,511 --> 00:06:53,180 has been pretty crazy. An interview could bring 129 00:06:53,180 --> 00:06:55,749 up old garbage that I'm trying to get over. 130 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:58,919 I think you're a great dude, an amazing dad, and one of the 131 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:01,789 greatest guitar players ever. 132 00:07:01,789 --> 00:07:04,825 However, you are also someone who nearly destroyed me. 133 00:07:04,825 --> 00:07:07,160 Doing an interview might bring up junk I don't need 134 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,163 to focus on. This whole thing is insane for me and I just 135 00:07:10,163 --> 00:07:12,833 want you to know that I'm trying my best and trying to 136 00:07:12,833 --> 00:07:15,836 keep everything on the up and up. Nothin' but love. 137 00:07:17,505 --> 00:07:21,475 The way that the band ended, you know, it was bad. 138 00:07:21,475 --> 00:07:23,711 And it hurt me alot. 139 00:07:25,178 --> 00:07:28,982 And sort of when we started talking about this you know 140 00:07:30,651 --> 00:07:33,987 there was times when I was really excited about doing it 141 00:07:33,987 --> 00:07:36,123 and then there was other times when I was just like, 142 00:07:36,123 --> 00:07:38,759 I can't do this. I can't revisit those emotions. 143 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:43,030 I can't revisit the past I've kind of gotten over it. 144 00:07:43,030 --> 00:07:47,635 And to come back in the mix and be with the guys and stuff- 145 00:07:49,069 --> 00:07:51,705 I knew it would be this mixed bag of emotions, you know? 146 00:07:52,272 --> 00:07:54,608 And Jesse's not even coming in the van, he's going 147 00:07:54,608 --> 00:07:56,143 in his own car. It's just him and his girlfriend. 148 00:07:57,044 --> 00:07:59,012 I'm definitely a man of comfort. 149 00:07:59,012 --> 00:08:02,783 You know my obsessive compulsive really does control, I guess, 150 00:08:02,783 --> 00:08:05,953 how I live my day-to-day life a lot of the time. 151 00:08:05,953 --> 00:08:09,690 So all of a sudden, being so OCD and phobic of things to go 152 00:08:09,690 --> 00:08:11,625 back into a van... 153 00:08:11,625 --> 00:08:13,794 Shit there's gonna be nine people in that van. 154 00:08:13,794 --> 00:08:15,996 You know, my girlfriend is gonna come along. 155 00:08:17,631 --> 00:08:20,067 He's got a pretty good hold on like, the fact that he 156 00:08:20,067 --> 00:08:23,036 knows he's a little bit insane with some of these phobias, 157 00:08:23,036 --> 00:08:25,205 and he's pretty apologetic about it and he's like "Oh I'm 158 00:08:25,205 --> 00:08:28,275 sorry you guys have to put up with me and my crazy old ways". 159 00:08:28,942 --> 00:08:30,878 And when he made us move rehearsal spaces, he was pretty 160 00:08:30,878 --> 00:08:33,981 graceful about it I guess. 161 00:08:35,082 --> 00:08:38,652 The ceiling in the space is covered with plastic but you 162 00:08:38,652 --> 00:08:40,988 can still see through and see the insulation. 163 00:08:40,988 --> 00:08:44,324 There is nothing falling from the ceiling, it's sealed, but 164 00:08:44,324 --> 00:08:47,661 just the fact that Jesse could see the insulation with his 165 00:08:47,661 --> 00:08:51,599 eyes, he never came back to that jam space again. 166 00:08:51,599 --> 00:08:54,001 And we ultimately practiced the next three days without him. 167 00:08:54,001 --> 00:08:55,969 You guys want to run through one more thing on 168 00:08:55,969 --> 00:08:57,204 stage or are you guys good? 169 00:08:57,204 --> 00:08:59,339 Well I didn't know fiberglass, that's kind of a new phobia 170 00:08:59,339 --> 00:09:01,308 I think. We didn't really know that was a big thing 171 00:09:01,308 --> 00:09:02,776 because it used to be duct tape. 172 00:09:02,776 --> 00:09:04,812 - Adhesives. - Adhesives, yeah. 173 00:09:04,812 --> 00:09:08,015 Like, I understand why he didn't want to be in there, 174 00:09:08,015 --> 00:09:12,019 whatever, but it seriously just roots back to touring with him 175 00:09:12,019 --> 00:09:15,989 back in the day because I didn't want to like bend over and agree 176 00:09:15,989 --> 00:09:18,692 with him just because it was something he wanted his way 177 00:09:18,692 --> 00:09:21,161 you know? So like, just on principle I was like 178 00:09:21,161 --> 00:09:23,864 "fuck that, we're not moving jam spaces, we have to hold our 179 00:09:23,864 --> 00:09:26,333 ground on this sort of thing". 180 00:09:27,835 --> 00:09:29,937 It might be a good thing that I'm in here, not just 181 00:09:29,937 --> 00:09:33,306 for myself, for the guys, maybe it makes it a little bit easier 182 00:09:33,306 --> 00:09:36,276 on me maybe it makes it a little easier on everybody else. 183 00:09:51,024 --> 00:09:53,293 Dude, classic moment just now. 184 00:09:53,293 --> 00:09:58,131 This dude just came up to me and introduced himself to 185 00:09:58,131 --> 00:10:01,835 me twice. And the first time he's like "oh what's up man? 186 00:10:01,835 --> 00:10:04,104 How's it going? I'm John, whatever, I came here, 187 00:10:04,104 --> 00:10:06,874 whatever," and then he's like-- and I went out in the van and 188 00:10:06,874 --> 00:10:08,942 kinda like changed my shirt and came back in and he's just like 189 00:10:08,942 --> 00:10:11,712 "Yo! You're in Misery Signals, right? 190 00:10:11,712 --> 00:10:14,014 You got a twin brother, I just met him over there." 191 00:10:17,084 --> 00:10:19,152 At first, early on I would have been like "Oh, no, 192 00:10:19,152 --> 00:10:22,155 that's Branden, that's my brother, I can't accept that" 193 00:10:22,155 --> 00:10:24,224 but that conversation goes nowhere, and like they feel 194 00:10:24,224 --> 00:10:26,359 awkward and now i'm just like "Yeah, fuck yeah, thank you." 195 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,963 Make some noise for Youth Decay! 196 00:10:35,268 --> 00:10:37,104 Nihilate! 197 00:10:40,808 --> 00:10:43,877 And the reason why we are all fucking here: 198 00:10:44,477 --> 00:10:47,347 Misery Signals! 199 00:11:05,933 --> 00:11:07,267 # This time... 200 00:11:07,267 --> 00:11:09,069 # It was our summer. 201 00:11:10,838 --> 00:11:14,674 # It was something, no one could take from us! # 202 00:11:23,083 --> 00:11:26,286 # Sometimes that night, seems so close # 203 00:11:29,790 --> 00:11:31,959 # Like I,could hold it 204 00:11:31,959 --> 00:11:35,295 # You said alright, we'll be fine. # 205 00:11:36,496 --> 00:11:38,231 # But how could we have known? # 206 00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:42,369 # Do you remember? 207 00:11:44,371 --> 00:11:47,207 # Roll down the window let in night air. # 208 00:11:49,409 --> 00:11:51,812 # I always thought we'd be together # 209 00:11:57,517 --> 00:12:00,320 # You said we've never gone this way before # 210 00:12:07,795 --> 00:12:13,166 Dude, so insane and so awesome but like poor Ryan is 211 00:12:13,166 --> 00:12:16,169 over here in the corner shit's getting stepped on and 212 00:12:16,169 --> 00:12:17,370 everything is getting unplugged. 213 00:12:17,370 --> 00:12:20,440 Alright we gotta pause here for two seconds because you 214 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,876 guys are fucking out of control, and it's awesome, 215 00:12:24,444 --> 00:12:27,080 but everybody's gotta take like two steps back and you guys 216 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,449 gotta step down and like everything is getting unplugged. 217 00:12:29,449 --> 00:12:31,384 And I'm gonna put all my shit back together and then we're 218 00:12:31,384 --> 00:12:33,153 gonna play the next song. Hold on. 219 00:12:33,987 --> 00:12:36,089 I thought this show would be really good but I 220 00:12:36,089 --> 00:12:38,091 didn't anticipate this. 221 00:12:39,993 --> 00:12:43,296 That's probably the most technical difficulties he's 222 00:12:43,296 --> 00:12:46,099 ever had, but that might have been one of the best 223 00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:48,101 Misery Signals shows we've ever played. 224 00:12:52,105 --> 00:12:54,474 I'm also informed that there's some sprinklers up here 225 00:12:54,474 --> 00:12:56,109 you've gotta watch out for otherwise they'll 226 00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:57,978 get everything wet. 227 00:12:59,112 --> 00:13:00,848 That might be a bad scene. 228 00:13:09,489 --> 00:13:11,859 Once again, thank you guys so so much. 229 00:13:11,859 --> 00:13:13,861 Keep enjoying yourselves. 230 00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:21,434 Just please watch old Ry's pedals here. 231 00:14:05,378 --> 00:14:08,115 Tonight's gonna be nuts, it's like the venue is maybe a 232 00:14:08,115 --> 00:14:11,184 little bit too small but it will be one of those shows where 233 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:12,619 maybe that's a good thing. 234 00:14:12,619 --> 00:14:14,321 The venue is a lot of bit too small 235 00:14:14,321 --> 00:14:15,455 Yeah. 236 00:14:15,455 --> 00:14:17,891 I think we could have filled a four or five hundred 237 00:14:17,891 --> 00:14:19,526 cap room in Calgary. 238 00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:21,628 That's the tricky balance man, it's a lot less fun 239 00:14:21,628 --> 00:14:23,596 if half the room's half empty cause you can feel that 240 00:14:23,596 --> 00:14:26,033 difference, and for this tour particularly I think that's 241 00:14:26,033 --> 00:14:28,902 what we wanted to go for is like a smaller room kind of 242 00:14:28,902 --> 00:14:30,370 feel cause those were like... 243 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:32,505 if we're gonna do a throwback to those times we were 244 00:14:32,505 --> 00:14:35,642 playing a lot smaller places, smaller than this even. 245 00:14:36,643 --> 00:14:39,412 So as veterans, what advice would you give 246 00:14:39,412 --> 00:14:42,015 to people who are in the early stages starting out? 247 00:14:42,015 --> 00:14:44,617 The band has been operating for ten, twelve years 248 00:14:44,617 --> 00:14:49,056 now, when we sort of broke the band and got signed and that 249 00:14:49,056 --> 00:14:50,290 sort of thing we were just 250 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:53,260 touring and doing shows and it wasn't quite as internet and 251 00:14:53,260 --> 00:14:56,229 social networking based as it seems to be. 252 00:14:57,097 --> 00:14:58,631 What's up guys we're Misery Signals. 253 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,270 Now, it's like, cover a popular song and make a 254 00:15:03,270 --> 00:15:06,173 cool YouTube video and get some viral going online, 255 00:15:06,173 --> 00:15:08,008 I don't really know cause I didn't do it that way. 256 00:15:08,008 --> 00:15:09,676 For us it was just get out there and play as much 257 00:15:09,676 --> 00:15:11,945 as you can and I don't think that's gonna hurt you I still 258 00:15:11,945 --> 00:15:12,946 think that's a good idea. 259 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,548 If you're watching this we're already dead. 260 00:15:15,548 --> 00:15:17,985 Melted away to nothingness. 261 00:15:17,985 --> 00:15:19,953 We're in the desert, it sucks. 262 00:15:19,953 --> 00:15:20,988 What does that sign say? 263 00:15:22,122 --> 00:15:23,991 Tucson, 246 miles. 264 00:15:23,991 --> 00:15:26,726 246 miles to Tucson Arizona. 265 00:15:26,726 --> 00:15:29,462 So Tucson is less than half way there. 266 00:15:30,297 --> 00:15:34,001 I can remember one year, maybe it was 2004 or 2005 that 267 00:15:34,001 --> 00:15:36,469 we were on tour for 11 months of that year. 268 00:15:36,469 --> 00:15:39,606 Three days off here, a week here, you know a few days, 269 00:15:39,606 --> 00:15:42,075 but like it was just go go go go go. 270 00:15:42,075 --> 00:15:44,311 We were just focused on that and nothing else. 271 00:15:45,445 --> 00:15:47,647 There wasn't really anything else going on in 272 00:15:47,647 --> 00:15:48,915 my life that mattered. 273 00:15:48,915 --> 00:15:53,086 We were just really caught up in making this thing special. 274 00:15:54,721 --> 00:15:56,556 Say something for me Jesse. 275 00:15:56,556 --> 00:15:57,991 Hello. 276 00:15:57,991 --> 00:15:59,326 How are you tonight? 277 00:15:59,326 --> 00:16:01,261 I'm okay. Tired. 278 00:16:01,261 --> 00:16:03,430 You think you want to play in a band for your life but 279 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:06,666 all of a sudden you're on the road for 120 days at a time, 280 00:16:06,666 --> 00:16:10,537 never going home. My mother had a son, my little brother, 281 00:16:10,537 --> 00:16:13,573 he's now thirteen years old but in those first years of 282 00:16:13,573 --> 00:16:16,343 Misery Signals he was a little boy. 283 00:16:16,343 --> 00:16:19,112 And he didn't have a dad, and so I always had this really strong 284 00:16:19,112 --> 00:16:22,249 sense of obligation to be a dad to Liam. 285 00:16:23,150 --> 00:16:25,752 How do you balance touring ten, eleven months of the year with 286 00:16:25,752 --> 00:16:28,255 trying to be this father figure to this boy? 287 00:16:28,255 --> 00:16:32,192 Alright so we just arrived in Arkansas. At the show. 288 00:16:32,692 --> 00:16:35,195 When I was nineteen through twenty one I was really 289 00:16:35,195 --> 00:16:38,265 really close with my parents, and same with like friends when 290 00:16:38,265 --> 00:16:41,401 i lived in Edmonton from when I started touring with 291 00:16:41,401 --> 00:16:43,503 Misery Signals my friend circle in Edmonton is pretty 292 00:16:43,503 --> 00:16:45,338 much down to one person now. 293 00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:47,607 You know the only person that I really talk to that lives in 294 00:16:47,607 --> 00:16:49,542 Edmonton is Brandon, our merch guy. 295 00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:52,379 Maybe it just seems commonplace cause through working 296 00:16:52,379 --> 00:16:54,281 with Misery Signals I've made so many friends that 297 00:16:54,281 --> 00:16:56,449 do tour, so it seems pretty 298 00:16:56,449 --> 00:16:59,452 normal, but when you really think about it it's kind of not. 299 00:16:59,452 --> 00:17:01,288 Watch out for my urine. 300 00:17:01,288 --> 00:17:02,322 Huh? 301 00:17:02,322 --> 00:17:03,223 Watch out for my urine. 302 00:17:03,223 --> 00:17:05,024 There's a cup full of it by your feet. 303 00:17:08,461 --> 00:17:11,531 Five to ten people pile into a van where you have to put 304 00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:16,236 your gear and where you have to sleep and where it smells awful 305 00:17:16,236 --> 00:17:21,374 and you drive a thousand miles to play a show in front of 306 00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:23,843 twenty people, but you don't care cause you're playing music 307 00:17:23,843 --> 00:17:27,147 you love to people that also hopefully love it. 308 00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:29,782 You don't know where you're gonna sleep that night maybe, 309 00:17:29,782 --> 00:17:33,320 but you're probably gonna end up on like some weirdo's floor 310 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,423 breathing in asbestos or something. 311 00:17:37,790 --> 00:17:40,260 But it doesn't matter. 312 00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:42,795 Cause you're there with your friends. And you're there 313 00:17:42,795 --> 00:17:46,699 doing what you love, and you're experiencing something. 314 00:17:50,337 --> 00:17:53,340 My foot is ruined. Let's go to the hospital. 315 00:17:53,340 --> 00:17:56,509 Here's the normal foot. Normal foot, fat foot. 316 00:17:57,144 --> 00:17:58,611 Nothing starts out great. 317 00:17:58,611 --> 00:18:01,348 You have to be willing to go through some shit and put up 318 00:18:01,348 --> 00:18:04,451 with less than ideal conditions and if you have a lot of love 319 00:18:04,451 --> 00:18:06,419 for something it's not going to matter how shitty those 320 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:07,887 conditions are. 321 00:18:07,887 --> 00:18:09,522 How'd we do in merch buddy? 322 00:18:09,522 --> 00:18:11,158 Not that good. 323 00:18:11,158 --> 00:18:12,459 Horribly? 324 00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:16,896 Maybe like 160 bucks. 325 00:18:16,896 --> 00:18:18,431 Most of these bands don't make a shit 326 00:18:18,431 --> 00:18:19,666 ton of money doing it. 327 00:18:19,666 --> 00:18:21,701 It's just kind of like all they know at this point, right? 328 00:18:21,701 --> 00:18:23,836 They started doing it when they were young so they just keep at 329 00:18:23,836 --> 00:18:25,672 at cause what else are they gonna do? 330 00:18:25,672 --> 00:18:28,308 In the lean years these guys didn't even have a trailer, we 331 00:18:28,308 --> 00:18:31,511 were touring with a van with one of those tiny cargo things on 332 00:18:31,511 --> 00:18:34,414 the top of it, and all and the merch and personal luggage was 333 00:18:34,414 --> 00:18:37,684 crammed up in there and like amps and drums and everything 334 00:18:37,684 --> 00:18:39,386 were just crammed under the back. 335 00:18:39,386 --> 00:18:42,222 So our van stopped working a little while ago and 336 00:18:42,222 --> 00:18:45,325 we're gonna get it fixed or, hopefully... but we're 337 00:18:45,325 --> 00:18:48,495 sitting in San Diego, probably missing the show. Awesome. 338 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:53,733 It's a different world. You're moving so much. 339 00:18:53,733 --> 00:18:56,503 You play one city one night and then you move to the next city. 340 00:18:56,503 --> 00:18:59,872 You don't leave any time for anything. 341 00:18:59,872 --> 00:19:02,875 You're with this traveling group of people and it's like 342 00:19:02,875 --> 00:19:06,446 your own separate universe. 343 00:19:06,446 --> 00:19:09,482 You know you guys create your own memories together but you 344 00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:14,454 don't have enough time to create relationships necessarily with 345 00:19:14,454 --> 00:19:17,557 the people that live in the city you're playing. 346 00:19:17,557 --> 00:19:19,592 When you spend that much time with your band, those 347 00:19:19,592 --> 00:19:20,827 become like your family. 348 00:19:20,827 --> 00:19:24,464 Those guys for almost eight years were like my family, the 349 00:19:24,464 --> 00:19:26,633 dudes that you see every day 350 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,869 I feel it's partly love of the music and partly these 351 00:19:29,869 --> 00:19:31,938 guys are getting to an age where it's like really what 352 00:19:31,938 --> 00:19:33,973 else do they do? 353 00:19:33,973 --> 00:19:38,578 A lot of them didn't go to school, I was kind of lucky in 354 00:19:38,578 --> 00:19:40,847 the sense I guess that before I started touring I went to 355 00:19:40,847 --> 00:19:43,350 college so I had something to fall back on when I decided 356 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:45,285 to quit. But a lot of these guys don't, right? 357 00:19:45,285 --> 00:19:48,288 So this is what they keep doing. 358 00:19:48,288 --> 00:19:49,722 You guys seen Jesse Yet? 359 00:19:49,722 --> 00:19:50,723 Nope 360 00:19:50,723 --> 00:19:52,659 - No he's not here yet. - Should be here soon. 361 00:19:52,659 --> 00:19:54,561 Did he drive here separately? 362 00:19:54,561 --> 00:19:55,895 - Yeah. - Yeah. 363 00:19:55,895 --> 00:19:57,930 He's doing the tour separately, in his own car. 364 00:19:57,930 --> 00:19:59,632 - What? - Yeah. 365 00:19:59,632 --> 00:20:02,469 They drove out to the wedding from Saskatchewan and 366 00:20:02,469 --> 00:20:06,239 they're driving back at least to that point, and then maybe 367 00:20:06,239 --> 00:20:08,575 hopping in the van or possibly just driving a car 368 00:20:08,575 --> 00:20:11,210 on the whole tour. It's yet to be determined. 369 00:20:13,513 --> 00:20:15,448 Hopefully he doesn't miss any shows. 370 00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:26,326 Is it pretty packed in there? 371 00:20:26,326 --> 00:20:28,561 Uh, a bunch of people are hanging out out front, it'll 372 00:20:28,561 --> 00:20:30,563 be pretty packed when we play. 373 00:20:31,498 --> 00:20:33,833 Doesn't seem that crowded but it'll probably be nuts. 374 00:20:59,592 --> 00:21:04,263 # How could I justify this # 375 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,036 # I can make anything alright 376 00:21:12,339 --> 00:21:13,673 # But what do you know 377 00:21:15,975 --> 00:21:17,744 # about sacrifice 378 00:21:20,513 --> 00:21:22,982 # You are no lamb 379 00:21:25,452 --> 00:21:27,286 # Any man a creep 380 00:21:29,489 --> 00:21:31,658 # Any man deserving 381 00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:34,694 # Any man 382 00:21:37,464 --> 00:21:38,765 # A victim, 383 00:21:41,734 --> 00:21:42,969 # a target 384 00:22:11,163 --> 00:22:14,434 Do you know the plate number on that guy? 385 00:22:17,103 --> 00:22:18,571 I have no fucking clue what it is. 386 00:22:19,772 --> 00:22:22,609 Got a text this morning, our van and trailer were towed. 387 00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:26,045 405 right? Yep. 388 00:22:27,780 --> 00:22:31,050 Two blocks down and it says it's good from nine to 389 00:22:31,050 --> 00:22:34,854 eleven, and then on the right next to it it says "no parking 390 00:22:34,854 --> 00:22:37,890 Monday through Wednesday" and then next to it says from 391 00:22:37,890 --> 00:22:41,794 seven to eight and we didn't see that. I already called them 392 00:22:41,794 --> 00:22:46,065 they said they have it, it's 200 for the impoundment. 393 00:22:46,065 --> 00:22:48,000 Sick. 394 00:22:49,536 --> 00:22:51,003 Okay straight back, straight back. 395 00:22:53,072 --> 00:22:54,674 This way a little. 396 00:22:55,508 --> 00:22:57,577 Keep coming, you're on track, keep coming. 397 00:22:58,110 --> 00:23:02,114 Slow, slow, little more, this much more, Stop! 398 00:23:03,182 --> 00:23:04,150 We're okay. 399 00:23:05,452 --> 00:23:06,819 It'll pop in. 400 00:23:09,922 --> 00:23:12,024 That sucks cause that was actually in there that time. 401 00:23:12,024 --> 00:23:13,693 The last time it happened I don't think we had 402 00:23:13,693 --> 00:23:14,694 it on there correctly. 403 00:23:17,163 --> 00:23:19,832 Well, what else could go wrong boys? 404 00:23:23,736 --> 00:23:26,573 Turn left onto 15 Avenue south east. 405 00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:29,008 Then turn left onto Macleod trail south east. 406 00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:34,146 We disagreed on a lot of things back in the day. 407 00:23:34,146 --> 00:23:37,049 The specifics escape me right now which leads me to believe 408 00:23:37,049 --> 00:23:38,585 they maybe weren't as important as we thought 409 00:23:38,585 --> 00:23:40,086 they were at the time. 410 00:23:40,086 --> 00:23:42,489 Being in a band is like a marriage you know? 411 00:23:42,489 --> 00:23:46,092 You all have to work together and decide on things together 412 00:23:46,092 --> 00:23:50,963 and do everything together and it always sort of seemed like 413 00:23:50,963 --> 00:23:53,600 the four of us against him. 414 00:23:54,701 --> 00:23:57,236 I was just sick of losing every vote. 415 00:23:57,236 --> 00:23:59,972 Whether it was as simple as where we are going to go eat 416 00:23:59,972 --> 00:24:02,809 tonight or where we're gonna sleep tonight. 417 00:24:02,809 --> 00:24:05,745 Those guys at that point were so like party... 418 00:24:05,745 --> 00:24:08,748 it's funny, straightedge guys, but party mode, like "we're 419 00:24:08,748 --> 00:24:11,618 gonna stay at these girls' house tonight" "we're gonna eat at 420 00:24:11,618 --> 00:24:13,486 this vegan restaurant today". 421 00:24:14,621 --> 00:24:17,524 I just got sick of losing everything. 422 00:24:17,524 --> 00:24:20,993 We would often refer to Kyle and Ryan as "The Bosses", 423 00:24:20,993 --> 00:24:23,896 cause they would deal with the money and the promoters and-- 424 00:24:23,896 --> 00:24:26,833 I think Ryan was the leader in that band. 425 00:24:26,833 --> 00:24:29,736 I think his brother would always just basically do 426 00:24:29,736 --> 00:24:31,838 whatever Ry said back then. 427 00:24:31,838 --> 00:24:34,173 And Ryan and Kyle were childhood friends. 428 00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:36,042 I was this outsider. 429 00:24:36,042 --> 00:24:37,710 There's these expectations that he would have 430 00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:40,747 for other people but sort of not for himself. 431 00:24:40,747 --> 00:24:43,049 In a sense of like, he would want... 432 00:24:43,049 --> 00:24:46,185 he would expect the band to have their strings changed 433 00:24:46,185 --> 00:24:50,823 for every 2nd show, but then then he would cut a set short, 434 00:24:50,823 --> 00:24:54,093 at four songs because he's tired. But then he would 435 00:24:54,093 --> 00:24:56,796 justify that with "Oh I don't want to do a bad performance" 436 00:24:56,796 --> 00:24:59,799 He would often say that he wanted to leave the band or 437 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,969 he thought that he's not coming back after this tour. 438 00:25:03,736 --> 00:25:05,672 And he would say that over the course of a 439 00:25:05,672 --> 00:25:06,773 number of different tours. 440 00:25:06,773 --> 00:25:09,742 "Oh I'm gonna quit the band if this doesn't happen" 441 00:25:09,742 --> 00:25:11,944 I think he was saying that he quit cause he wanted 442 00:25:11,944 --> 00:25:15,114 someone to talk him back into staying but it was just too hard 443 00:25:15,114 --> 00:25:18,851 on us to have all these tensions and then on top of that have him 444 00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:21,988 being like "Well I'm just gonna quit, well I'm just gonna quit". 445 00:25:21,988 --> 00:25:25,124 And eventually one of the times that he said that I put 446 00:25:25,124 --> 00:25:28,027 my foot down and said "Okay, don't come back." 447 00:25:29,929 --> 00:25:31,230 Milwaukee. 448 00:25:31,898 --> 00:25:33,299 That's the guy's hometown. 449 00:25:33,299 --> 00:25:36,202 You know, we spent a lot of time there. 450 00:25:36,202 --> 00:25:39,205 The last time we played there, with Madball, I was on a 451 00:25:39,205 --> 00:25:41,974 payphone outside and these kids came up and they banged 452 00:25:41,974 --> 00:25:43,843 on the phone booth. 453 00:25:43,843 --> 00:25:47,146 So I get off the phone and I came out and they said well we 454 00:25:47,146 --> 00:25:50,216 heard that Shawn Page is taking your spot in Misery Signals. 455 00:25:50,216 --> 00:25:52,284 He's trying out next week, after the tour. 456 00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:58,290 And I was just so taken aback, like, "What, what do you mean?" 457 00:25:58,290 --> 00:26:01,894 # Awaken and destroy 458 00:26:01,894 --> 00:26:03,596 # these dreams 459 00:26:05,164 --> 00:26:09,068 We'd been fighting lots, but, no from my understanding 460 00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:11,838 I'm gonna be the singer in Misery Signals. 461 00:26:15,374 --> 00:26:19,812 And I didn't say anything to Ryan, I played that show. 462 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,150 But from that point on it was crumbling. 463 00:26:25,284 --> 00:26:28,621 It was obvious that they were seeking to replace me. 464 00:26:29,889 --> 00:26:33,259 We did have other options in mind or other 465 00:26:33,259 --> 00:26:36,128 scenarios at least in our subconscious. 466 00:26:36,128 --> 00:26:38,998 I don't think we had acted on them until he left the band but, 467 00:26:41,167 --> 00:26:43,970 the end was in sight with Jesse before he left. 468 00:26:44,370 --> 00:26:46,005 We should have just talked about things. 469 00:26:46,005 --> 00:26:49,676 We should have just all aired our grievances and hopefully 470 00:26:49,676 --> 00:26:52,144 worked through things but instead I just went back to my 471 00:26:52,144 --> 00:26:56,348 bunk I was like "Screw you guys you bastards" kind of thing. 472 00:26:56,348 --> 00:26:59,652 I just stayed in my own little place. 473 00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:04,123 The last time I was here, was one of the last shows 474 00:27:04,123 --> 00:27:06,325 I ever played with Misery Signals. 475 00:27:07,927 --> 00:27:10,663 We played in the smaller room with Madball. 476 00:27:12,331 --> 00:27:14,200 It's a little bit different than this. 477 00:27:15,935 --> 00:27:18,404 So thank you so much for making this so special tonight. 478 00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,814 Thanks for making this old guy feel cool. 479 00:27:29,048 --> 00:27:31,918 And then we head south, 480 00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:37,656 the next show in my head that I remember is Dallas Texas, 481 00:27:39,158 --> 00:27:40,960 that was the last show we played. 482 00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:44,130 Stage left check check check. Hey! 483 00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:45,898 Hang on just a second. 484 00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:51,670 Let's get that vocal again. 485 00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:54,707 Whoa-oooo. 486 00:27:54,707 --> 00:27:56,809 1 - 2 - 3 hey. 487 00:27:58,177 --> 00:28:00,813 Played here a couple of times early on with the band. 488 00:28:00,813 --> 00:28:01,981 Hey check, that's good. 489 00:28:04,483 --> 00:28:05,918 Oh dude, it's exactly the same. 490 00:28:09,155 --> 00:28:12,124 It's kind of smaller than I remember, but this is exactly 491 00:28:12,124 --> 00:28:15,728 how it was set up. But this was the last place that we 492 00:28:15,728 --> 00:28:18,998 played with Jesse on his original run in the band. 493 00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:21,333 So weird. 494 00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:27,339 So the room where we're actually playing tonight is where me and 495 00:28:27,339 --> 00:28:30,042 Ryan went and talked after we played here and kinda got in an 496 00:28:30,042 --> 00:28:33,012 argument and that was kind of the end. 497 00:28:36,849 --> 00:28:40,152 I don't remember what tensions were what exactly cause 498 00:28:40,152 --> 00:28:44,323 there was no singular event that ended Jesse's stay in the band 499 00:28:44,323 --> 00:28:50,529 it was building tension for a number of months if not years so 500 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:54,834 I don't think anything specifically awful happened when 501 00:28:54,834 --> 00:29:00,506 we were in Dallas the last time but it came to a head between 502 00:29:00,506 --> 00:29:05,044 the night that we played here and the next show. 503 00:29:06,278 --> 00:29:09,148 Everyone in the band was in agreement with me from my 504 00:29:09,148 --> 00:29:13,285 understanding, but I was the one that was kinda just had had it 505 00:29:13,285 --> 00:29:15,454 enough that I needed to talk about it right then and there. 506 00:29:16,555 --> 00:29:18,958 We had had this talk before. 507 00:29:18,958 --> 00:29:23,095 And we knew if we didn't stand our ground and go through with 508 00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:26,532 what we wanted to do that it would just go back to how it was 509 00:29:26,532 --> 00:29:28,434 and it would never happen. 510 00:29:28,434 --> 00:29:32,071 We got to the show, we had set up our gear on stage and 511 00:29:32,071 --> 00:29:33,305 we were opening the show. 512 00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:35,374 And I'm saying to the guys "What is the point of loading in? 513 00:29:35,374 --> 00:29:38,377 He is not going to do this show after you guys tell him this 514 00:29:38,377 --> 00:29:41,113 isn't gonna be a thing anymore." 515 00:29:41,113 --> 00:29:43,582 They just basically said in the van that day 516 00:29:43,582 --> 00:29:46,819 'We're done. We're gonna get you a flight home. Tonight." 517 00:29:46,819 --> 00:29:49,288 And I started crying and basically begging them 518 00:29:49,288 --> 00:29:51,590 "No no no. We need to talk this out. We need to talk this out." 519 00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:55,394 It was one of the most fucking awkward things of my life. 520 00:29:56,395 --> 00:29:58,397 They told him, obviously he's not gonna go through with the 521 00:29:58,397 --> 00:30:01,834 show, so we had to go back in, take all the gear off stage. 522 00:30:01,834 --> 00:30:04,336 I was actually filling in as tour manager at the time so I 523 00:30:04,336 --> 00:30:06,873 had to like kind of explain to the tour manager of Madball 524 00:30:06,873 --> 00:30:09,942 "Look, this is what's going on. We're dropping off the tour 525 00:30:09,942 --> 00:30:12,111 cause this might not be a band anymore." 526 00:30:12,611 --> 00:30:16,282 Even though I'm sure he could sense unhappiness in the 527 00:30:16,282 --> 00:30:20,019 camp he never saw it coming. Like he never even thought that 528 00:30:20,019 --> 00:30:21,888 it would actually come down to that. 529 00:30:21,888 --> 00:30:23,622 You know, it hit him pretty hard. 530 00:30:23,622 --> 00:30:26,425 I think we tried to settle it where we were gonna 531 00:30:26,425 --> 00:30:29,428 finish out the tour, there was like 4 or 5 days left but once 532 00:30:29,428 --> 00:30:32,631 it kinda dawned on Jesse that he wasn't gonna come back for real, 533 00:30:32,631 --> 00:30:33,765 he didn't want to do those shows. 534 00:30:33,765 --> 00:30:36,135 So we had to book him a flight home but we couldn't get 535 00:30:36,135 --> 00:30:39,071 anything affordable right then and there out of Oklahoma City. 536 00:30:39,071 --> 00:30:41,207 So we drove to St Louis, a number of hours away, 537 00:30:41,207 --> 00:30:42,374 all just sitting in the van. 538 00:30:42,374 --> 00:30:45,177 It was kinda similar to when you break up with someone 539 00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:47,313 and you're just kinda talking through it with them. 540 00:30:47,313 --> 00:30:49,148 "Why are you doing this? 541 00:30:49,148 --> 00:30:50,549 Why are you guys doing this to me? 542 00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:53,285 I really want to do the next record with you guys. 543 00:30:53,285 --> 00:30:56,422 I want to finish the tour. I want to still be in the band." 544 00:30:56,422 --> 00:30:59,058 Jesse kept trying to get me to stop so he could get 545 00:30:59,058 --> 00:31:02,594 some alcohol and that was weird too, cause he never drank, I 546 00:31:02,594 --> 00:31:03,862 never really know him to drink. 547 00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:06,999 After having something taken away from you, to spend 548 00:31:06,999 --> 00:31:10,169 the next six hours with the people that took it from you, 549 00:31:10,169 --> 00:31:13,305 I can't imagine the shit that was going through his head. 550 00:31:13,305 --> 00:31:15,574 Had to be pretty difficult to endure. 551 00:31:15,574 --> 00:31:19,345 Jesse I think took it probably the hardest from Stu, 552 00:31:19,345 --> 00:31:23,215 because Jesse you know he knew Stu growing up through the 553 00:31:23,215 --> 00:31:25,217 Edmonton scene and those bands, and he was kinda the one that 554 00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:27,153 got Stu into the band. 555 00:31:27,153 --> 00:31:30,356 So you know to have Stu siding with the other guys when it was 556 00:31:30,356 --> 00:31:32,925 time for him to leave, I think that really affected their 557 00:31:32,925 --> 00:31:36,395 friendship and there was a lot of tension in that drive just 558 00:31:36,395 --> 00:31:39,398 between the two of them. Maybe more so than anyone else. 559 00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:42,434 There was this expectation of loyalty that 560 00:31:42,434 --> 00:31:45,237 I was supposed to have to him. Like, if he was getting 561 00:31:45,237 --> 00:31:47,473 kicked out of the band that I should go with him. Fuck that. 562 00:31:47,473 --> 00:31:50,142 You created a toxic environment that nobody wanted you to be 563 00:31:50,142 --> 00:31:54,213 involved in the band anymore, it's not my fault. 564 00:31:54,213 --> 00:31:56,215 They drove me to the airport, and I remember them getting 565 00:31:56,215 --> 00:32:00,086 out of the van and waiting in line to hug me, 566 00:32:00,086 --> 00:32:01,587 all four of them. 567 00:32:01,587 --> 00:32:04,957 I just got out of the van and walked into the airport. 568 00:32:04,957 --> 00:32:08,127 And I didn't see them again for about three years. 569 00:32:08,127 --> 00:32:10,462 I think I was maybe the only one that got out to say bye to 570 00:32:10,462 --> 00:32:12,999 him. I just gave him a hug and got back in the van and fuckin 571 00:32:12,999 --> 00:32:15,734 huddled myself up under this blanket and just started crying 572 00:32:15,734 --> 00:32:17,503 cause I was just... 573 00:32:18,604 --> 00:32:20,506 more than anything I think I was just upset for him, 574 00:32:20,506 --> 00:32:25,111 to see that something he had built and created to cope with 575 00:32:25,111 --> 00:32:29,548 his loss, he was just kind of being ripped from. 576 00:32:30,716 --> 00:32:32,651 It was a meeting of frustrations and stubbornness 577 00:32:32,651 --> 00:32:34,253 from both sides. 578 00:32:34,253 --> 00:32:37,689 We were young and eager to continue on and we wanted to 579 00:32:37,689 --> 00:32:41,093 have a happy environment while we were touring, we were doing 580 00:32:41,093 --> 00:32:45,331 it so much at that point, so we just pulled the trigger. 581 00:32:46,132 --> 00:32:48,000 There was no working through it at that point. 582 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,668 They didn't want to hear it. 583 00:32:49,668 --> 00:32:52,371 And I can't... 584 00:32:52,371 --> 00:32:54,040 I don't know if I can blame them, you know? 585 00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:12,024 It hurt, you know, it still hurts. 586 00:33:12,024 --> 00:33:15,427 It hurts that those three guys that I created this band with- 587 00:33:16,728 --> 00:33:18,997 would go behind my back and do that. 588 00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:22,334 It hurt even more that Stuart would be party to it 589 00:33:22,334 --> 00:33:23,735 and not say anything to me. 590 00:33:23,735 --> 00:33:26,338 He wrote me some fucking emails. 591 00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:29,075 Some very very very aggressive 592 00:33:29,075 --> 00:33:31,710 threatening emails. Like... 593 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:33,512 "If you come back to Canada you're gonna get your 594 00:33:33,512 --> 00:33:35,681 ass kicked" or whatever or 595 00:33:35,681 --> 00:33:38,384 "I'm gonna send guys out to hurt you". 596 00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:41,353 So we were... 597 00:33:41,353 --> 00:33:44,756 you know he's friends with some serious dudes. 598 00:33:45,424 --> 00:33:47,393 I think I can speak for everyone else in the band 599 00:33:47,393 --> 00:33:52,664 when I say we were legitimately afraid 600 00:33:52,664 --> 00:33:54,800 that something was gonna happen to us. 601 00:33:56,368 --> 00:33:58,537 We were really bad to each other at times. 602 00:33:58,537 --> 00:34:02,174 The focus was always art, art, art at all costs. 603 00:34:03,642 --> 00:34:07,479 And we created fantastic art, but it nearly destroyed me. 604 00:34:09,748 --> 00:34:12,284 It put me in the worst spot I was ever in. 605 00:34:12,284 --> 00:34:15,354 I come home. Girlfriend was gone. 606 00:34:15,354 --> 00:34:17,623 Misery Signals was gone. 607 00:34:17,623 --> 00:34:21,360 All of a sudden everybody that I had aligned myself with in life 608 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,331 for four or five years was gone. 609 00:34:25,331 --> 00:34:27,099 They were all gone. 610 00:34:30,236 --> 00:34:32,538 Let's start this thing off right. 611 00:34:33,672 --> 00:34:35,541 We are Misery Signals from Wisconsin. 612 00:34:35,541 --> 00:34:37,376 Let's have some fun. 613 00:34:40,612 --> 00:34:42,414 I think it hurt them too. 614 00:34:44,316 --> 00:34:47,719 We were on such a climb at that point. 615 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,788 Misery Signals was doing so, so well, right? 616 00:34:49,788 --> 00:34:51,823 And it was like every tour was better, better, better... 617 00:34:51,823 --> 00:34:53,692 and then they kick me out, 618 00:34:53,692 --> 00:34:56,795 and it took them a while I think, four or five years later, 619 00:34:56,795 --> 00:35:00,832 where maybe they were firing on all cylinders again. 620 00:35:00,832 --> 00:35:04,670 It's hard. It's a speed-bump for sure to change singers. 621 00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:07,839 Our second record was somewhat of a sophomore slump. 622 00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:10,242 But I don't know, it might have just been the same if 623 00:35:10,242 --> 00:35:11,543 Jesse was in the band too. 624 00:35:12,778 --> 00:35:14,613 I think for me it was important to try and prove 625 00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:16,382 that we could still do it. 626 00:35:17,216 --> 00:35:19,451 Jesse had left and that record was starting to be celebrated 627 00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:22,754 and it's like, well, I'm gonna be stubborn and I want to make 628 00:35:22,754 --> 00:35:25,891 something that's as good, and I don't need him. 629 00:35:25,891 --> 00:35:30,462 Jesse is a very passionate person and he had 630 00:35:30,462 --> 00:35:34,600 some traumatic things happen in his life. 631 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:40,506 And Misery Signals was his outlet. 632 00:35:41,273 --> 00:35:42,841 Personally I don't think that he ever took the time to 633 00:35:42,841 --> 00:35:45,411 deal with the accident. 634 00:35:45,411 --> 00:35:47,879 He's got this fucking huge weight on his shoulders that I 635 00:35:47,879 --> 00:35:49,948 don't think he ever really spoke about. 636 00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:52,818 Or even digested and dealt with, you know? 637 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,422 He helped make this band what it is. 638 00:35:56,422 --> 00:35:59,291 And I think a lot of that is evident in this anniversary tour 639 00:35:59,291 --> 00:36:02,294 because I haven't seen Misery Signals shows this 640 00:36:02,294 --> 00:36:04,563 crazy in years. And when you see Jesse on 641 00:36:04,563 --> 00:36:08,700 stage he really feels every word that he's yelling. 642 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:12,438 And don't get me wrong, fans relate to Karl too and the band 643 00:36:12,438 --> 00:36:16,242 is still obviously successful, but who knows what could have 644 00:36:16,242 --> 00:36:19,778 been if he would have, you know, not been ousted from the band. 645 00:36:20,812 --> 00:36:22,748 In "Summary and Stinging Rain" at Braden's place, 646 00:36:22,748 --> 00:36:23,715 that's all I remember. 647 00:36:23,715 --> 00:36:25,317 Yeah, we've spent a lot of time here. 648 00:36:26,552 --> 00:36:30,456 It's where we did a good portion of the writing for "Malice". 649 00:36:30,456 --> 00:36:31,823 This is for surely where I first heard 650 00:36:31,823 --> 00:36:33,592 "Worlds and Dreams" was downstairs. 651 00:36:33,592 --> 00:36:37,396 "End riff to Five Years" too. The very final. 652 00:36:38,264 --> 00:36:39,831 Morgan said "C'mere! C'mere! C'mere!" 653 00:36:39,831 --> 00:36:41,933 and I went downstairs and he said "Check this out." 654 00:36:41,933 --> 00:36:44,603 Yeah "Victim" was here for sure, I remember my guitar amp 655 00:36:44,603 --> 00:36:48,640 was under the steps, and it was so bass-y, so every time we 656 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,642 played the intro it was like "this is sick!" 657 00:36:50,642 --> 00:36:52,511 cause it was so big sounding. 658 00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:56,882 I remember Jesse-- we would be down here and Jesse's 659 00:36:56,882 --> 00:37:00,752 on his desk right at the top of the stairs writing lyrics-- 660 00:37:02,821 --> 00:37:03,955 Yeah for sure. 661 00:37:03,955 --> 00:37:05,691 That's the basement here? 662 00:37:05,691 --> 00:37:07,393 I don't remember the insulation like that, it's weird. 663 00:37:07,393 --> 00:37:10,396 It's still exposed, it drives Jesse crazy. 664 00:37:10,396 --> 00:37:11,430 Jesse won't go down there. 665 00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:12,498 No. 666 00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:14,733 Is that Stars? 667 00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:17,969 No this is Dinnwoody Lounge. 668 00:37:17,969 --> 00:37:21,373 You guys were still 7 Angels. It wasn't even Misery Signals. 669 00:37:21,373 --> 00:37:23,709 It was 7 Angels 7 Plagues featuring Jesse Zaraska. 670 00:37:23,709 --> 00:37:24,843 Featuring Jesse Zaraska. 671 00:37:24,843 --> 00:37:26,011 Yeah it was featuring. 672 00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:30,382 Damn we were fucking fully traveling with a car-top 673 00:37:30,382 --> 00:37:31,683 carrier and no trailer. 674 00:37:33,685 --> 00:37:36,021 Do you guys remember if this was a release party? 675 00:37:36,021 --> 00:37:38,590 Yeah I believe it would have been. 676 00:37:38,590 --> 00:37:40,659 It was at Megatunes on Whyte avenue and it might have 677 00:37:40,659 --> 00:37:42,027 been the release of "Malice" 678 00:37:42,027 --> 00:37:43,929 The first Misery Signals show in Edmonton, if I can 679 00:37:43,929 --> 00:37:45,731 remember this correctly. 680 00:37:46,865 --> 00:37:49,868 So, this is fuckin insane actually, this story is amazing. 681 00:37:49,868 --> 00:37:52,404 We used to cross into Canada to play and not have any 682 00:37:52,404 --> 00:37:55,541 of the proper documentation or work permits. 683 00:37:55,541 --> 00:37:58,544 So we would always have like back stories, like split up and 684 00:37:58,544 --> 00:38:00,379 go separate ways. 685 00:38:00,379 --> 00:38:03,315 When we left for that tour Ryan had a record so he 686 00:38:03,315 --> 00:38:05,551 couldn't get across the border. 687 00:38:05,551 --> 00:38:08,454 I went to get an ID as my brother. 688 00:38:09,821 --> 00:38:13,459 So I went to the DMV and had his passport like 689 00:38:13,459 --> 00:38:15,427 "Oh I lost my driver's license, I need to get a new one." 690 00:38:15,427 --> 00:38:17,396 And so it was going to be a picture of me. 691 00:38:17,396 --> 00:38:18,564 Even though we look exactly the same. 692 00:38:18,564 --> 00:38:20,699 I don't know why I was trying to go this far cause it's 693 00:38:20,699 --> 00:38:23,535 super brutally criminal thing to do. Got all the paperwork 694 00:38:23,535 --> 00:38:26,372 filled out and was sitting in the waiting area. 695 00:38:26,372 --> 00:38:29,341 And there was like 7 other people there and they called 696 00:38:29,341 --> 00:38:32,978 them up, each one, and got their pictures taken and sent them 697 00:38:32,978 --> 00:38:35,481 off, and I was the last one sitting there. 698 00:38:35,481 --> 00:38:37,383 And I started freaking out because it was taking longer to 699 00:38:37,383 --> 00:38:40,051 do mine and I was like "Oh shit, the cops are just gonna come in 700 00:38:40,051 --> 00:38:41,319 here and take me away". 701 00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:44,756 And then eventually they call me up after what seemed like 3 702 00:38:44,756 --> 00:38:47,659 hours, you know it was probably 10 minutes, but they called me 703 00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,628 up and they just handed me the driver's license like 'Oh we 704 00:38:49,628 --> 00:38:51,497 just have your file picture, it's less than 6 months old so 705 00:38:51,497 --> 00:38:53,031 it's just the same picture". 706 00:38:53,031 --> 00:38:58,370 So myself, Branden and Kyle drove in my car. 707 00:38:58,370 --> 00:39:00,138 Jesse and Ryan took the van. 708 00:39:00,138 --> 00:39:03,475 And Ryan got out and got on a Greyhound. 709 00:39:03,475 --> 00:39:06,512 Somewhere in like Montana or something. 710 00:39:06,512 --> 00:39:09,515 So Branden Morgan was crossing in a van over here 711 00:39:09,515 --> 00:39:11,483 and Branden Morgan was crossing in a bus over here 712 00:39:11,483 --> 00:39:12,718 in different provinces. 713 00:39:12,718 --> 00:39:15,153 It was fine cause wasn't the border crossing like some little 714 00:39:15,153 --> 00:39:17,789 shack or something, and this dude was just like "Alright." 715 00:39:17,789 --> 00:39:20,792 The theory was that once Ryan was through, the real 716 00:39:20,792 --> 00:39:23,629 Branden Morgan was with us, so there was no disputing it. 717 00:39:23,629 --> 00:39:26,432 So we're like on payphones. Like get across the border and 718 00:39:26,432 --> 00:39:29,701 we're like "Yeah we did it, we're through" and then we find 719 00:39:29,701 --> 00:39:33,805 out that Jesse, because he was Canadian and he was trying to 720 00:39:33,805 --> 00:39:35,974 bring an American vehicle into the country, they impounded the 721 00:39:35,974 --> 00:39:39,811 vehicle and like held him at the border. 722 00:39:39,811 --> 00:39:43,649 You got stuck at the border, they impounded the van and 723 00:39:43,649 --> 00:39:44,816 then we had to use... 724 00:39:44,816 --> 00:39:46,418 They taped me to a chair. 725 00:39:47,085 --> 00:39:49,788 No they handcuffed me to a duct-taped chair. 726 00:39:49,788 --> 00:39:52,023 And left me sitting there for about an hour. 727 00:39:52,891 --> 00:39:55,561 So we picked you up just walking down the highway too, right? 728 00:39:55,561 --> 00:39:57,663 So they impounded it. 729 00:39:57,663 --> 00:40:00,065 They held him for a while at the border. And then 730 00:40:00,065 --> 00:40:01,933 they just said "Okay you can go" and they sent him walking. 731 00:40:01,933 --> 00:40:05,904 Like he just walked into Canada from the border and we had to 732 00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:08,740 drive like... we were getting so close to Edmonton too, 733 00:40:08,740 --> 00:40:10,476 I was psyched, like we were almost home. 734 00:40:10,476 --> 00:40:13,211 And we had to like detour and go pick him up. 735 00:40:13,211 --> 00:40:16,782 On like the side of the highway. He just called and he's like 736 00:40:16,782 --> 00:40:18,584 "I'll be walking down this highway". 737 00:40:18,584 --> 00:40:20,919 We're like "Okay man like we're just gonna head towards you." 738 00:40:20,919 --> 00:40:23,955 We were like hours away, like driving down this highway 739 00:40:23,955 --> 00:40:25,090 until we found him. 740 00:40:25,090 --> 00:40:28,460 It was probably the most stressful thing about the band 741 00:40:28,460 --> 00:40:30,228 at that time was trying to cross the border. 742 00:40:30,228 --> 00:40:32,998 With members being Canadian and American it was 743 00:40:32,998 --> 00:40:36,568 just this constant thing of back and forth, back and forth right? 744 00:40:37,168 --> 00:40:41,139 We would literally pull apart guitar cabs, take the back 745 00:40:41,139 --> 00:40:44,075 panel off and stuff as many shirts and hoodies into it as we 746 00:40:44,075 --> 00:40:47,579 could and then screw the back back on. 747 00:40:47,579 --> 00:40:50,882 Like the cabs weighed like 80 pounds. It was so obvious. 748 00:40:50,882 --> 00:40:52,918 Which is so ridiculous cause if you had a guy, a border 749 00:40:52,918 --> 00:40:56,988 guard who has any small knowledge of musical equipment, 750 00:40:56,988 --> 00:40:58,924 the minute that he would move that cab he would be like 751 00:40:58,924 --> 00:41:00,158 "This is full of drugs". 752 00:41:01,259 --> 00:41:02,794 100 percent. 753 00:41:07,833 --> 00:41:08,834 Stop. 754 00:41:08,834 --> 00:41:11,069 You can just straighten out a tiny little bit. 755 00:41:11,703 --> 00:41:13,171 This is my hometown show. 756 00:41:13,171 --> 00:41:16,107 This is the club where I first went and saw punk rock bands 757 00:41:16,107 --> 00:41:18,744 when I was 13, 14, 15 years old. 758 00:41:19,645 --> 00:41:22,648 Starlite Room was sort of the bigger club, you know it was 759 00:41:22,648 --> 00:41:25,684 sort of where I hoped we would one day get to. 760 00:41:26,618 --> 00:41:29,020 Misery Signals really had good shows here back in the day and 761 00:41:29,020 --> 00:41:30,989 it's a special place. 762 00:41:30,989 --> 00:41:32,157 We're gonna actually strike the guitars. 763 00:41:32,157 --> 00:41:34,526 2 2 1 2. Check. 764 00:41:35,861 --> 00:41:37,829 When Misery Signals started and Jesse being from the 765 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:40,566 city and going to the States and joining this band it was a big 766 00:41:40,566 --> 00:41:42,000 deal within the scene. 767 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,835 Especially when "Malice" came out. 768 00:41:43,835 --> 00:41:46,705 I feel like we were more of a local band to Edmonton than we 769 00:41:46,705 --> 00:41:47,939 were to Milwaukee you know? 770 00:41:47,939 --> 00:41:50,676 It was really special for people here, this small 771 00:41:50,676 --> 00:41:53,311 Canadian city to say "Holy... 772 00:41:53,311 --> 00:41:56,247 Stu Ross and Jesse are doing something' you know. They're 773 00:41:56,247 --> 00:42:00,719 having success playing in this fairly big American band." 774 00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:03,188 You know, we were just like this champion of the 775 00:42:03,188 --> 00:42:05,824 fuckin' scene for a minute. 776 00:42:05,824 --> 00:42:08,827 A couple of guys from our home town have joined this American 777 00:42:08,827 --> 00:42:11,062 band and they're like touring. 778 00:42:11,062 --> 00:42:13,131 And that's why I think this show, especially tonight, it's 779 00:42:13,131 --> 00:42:15,567 gonna be like ten years ago. 780 00:42:17,068 --> 00:42:18,970 We're getting pretty close to sold out. 781 00:42:18,970 --> 00:42:20,305 Look at the bins. 782 00:42:20,906 --> 00:42:23,341 Even thought it was a small Canadian city, we always 783 00:42:23,341 --> 00:42:25,677 had such great shows here. 784 00:42:25,677 --> 00:42:28,146 I think Misery Signals and Compromise and 7 Angels, those 785 00:42:28,146 --> 00:42:31,016 bands have been very important to this scene. 786 00:42:31,016 --> 00:42:33,652 It was a special place for us and I think we were a special 787 00:42:33,652 --> 00:42:35,954 band for a lot of the people here. 788 00:42:41,660 --> 00:42:44,562 # Even though I watched us fall, # 789 00:42:46,998 --> 00:42:48,166 # fall away. 790 00:42:51,302 --> 00:42:55,073 # With determination we all carry on, # 791 00:43:01,312 --> 00:43:04,015 # and with determination 792 00:43:04,015 --> 00:43:06,151 # we all must live on. 793 00:43:12,758 --> 00:43:15,627 # We've all learned things from those days, # 794 00:43:17,696 --> 00:43:19,330 # I know that we all have grown, # 795 00:43:23,034 --> 00:43:25,203 # even I now feel a calm 796 00:43:27,005 --> 00:43:29,908 # like I have never known. 797 00:43:30,208 --> 00:43:34,345 # like I have never known. 798 00:43:42,954 --> 00:43:44,890 Thank you so much Edmonton! 799 00:43:47,759 --> 00:43:49,661 It's absolutely wonderful to be home. 800 00:43:52,998 --> 00:43:56,067 When Compromise started there was no scene. 801 00:43:56,067 --> 00:43:58,103 There was a heavy metal scene here, there was a punk rock 802 00:43:58,103 --> 00:44:00,338 scene, there was no such thing as hardcore. 803 00:44:00,338 --> 00:44:03,074 In our community, they were pretty fresh. 804 00:44:03,074 --> 00:44:04,676 Like there wasn't really anyone else that sounded like them. 805 00:44:04,676 --> 00:44:06,211 Like they were kinda the first ones to do that sort 806 00:44:06,211 --> 00:44:07,879 of thing in our scene. 807 00:44:07,879 --> 00:44:09,815 It was a big deal that they were taking steps and 808 00:44:09,815 --> 00:44:12,350 trying to tour and like get down to the States and they 809 00:44:12,350 --> 00:44:14,352 wanted to like be a full time touring band. 810 00:44:14,352 --> 00:44:16,822 It was a big send off when they were going to move to 811 00:44:16,822 --> 00:44:20,125 Toronto when they went on that tour with 7 Angels 7 Plagues. 812 00:44:20,125 --> 00:44:22,360 That too was just like crazy, cause all of us really looked up 813 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,195 to 7 Angels 7 Plagues. 814 00:44:24,195 --> 00:44:26,698 So for them to be doing this tour with them was just nuts. 815 00:44:26,698 --> 00:44:30,201 Many moons ago, some of these fellas took part in 816 00:44:30,201 --> 00:44:33,705 writing what is one of my favorite records... 817 00:44:33,705 --> 00:44:36,174 Check 2, hey hello what's new? 818 00:44:36,174 --> 00:44:39,144 ...it's called Jhazmyne's Lullaby by 7 Angels 7 Plagues. 819 00:44:40,245 --> 00:44:42,714 Jhazmyne's Lullaby was such a huge deal. 820 00:44:42,714 --> 00:44:46,151 I remember always listening to that record so so 821 00:44:46,151 --> 00:44:49,087 much every day, that's all that was in the van. Anytime we went 822 00:44:49,087 --> 00:44:51,322 and played shows in Calgary, anytime we went anywhere. 823 00:44:52,457 --> 00:44:53,691 Is this 7 Angels? 824 00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:56,094 Dan would call home from the road and we would just 825 00:44:56,094 --> 00:44:57,996 be asking him questions about the band and stuff. 826 00:44:57,996 --> 00:45:00,398 We were just so psyched on it like for them to be touring 827 00:45:00,398 --> 00:45:01,933 with was just amazing. 828 00:45:01,933 --> 00:45:03,735 We're 7 Angels 7 Plagues from Milwaukee. 829 00:45:04,936 --> 00:45:07,472 It was awesome meeting those guys and getting to know 830 00:45:07,472 --> 00:45:08,740 them a little bit. 831 00:45:08,740 --> 00:45:11,142 Nine times out of ten you don't really care about the 832 00:45:11,142 --> 00:45:13,344 local bands or the bands that open for you, but we liked 833 00:45:13,344 --> 00:45:14,946 Compromise and thought they were cool, 834 00:45:14,946 --> 00:45:16,181 and I watched them a number of times. 835 00:45:16,181 --> 00:45:17,248 Thank you guys. 836 00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:21,019 We came a long way to be here tonight. 837 00:45:21,019 --> 00:45:22,888 We're from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. 838 00:45:22,888 --> 00:45:24,923 We were getting paid nothing, you know it was like, 839 00:45:24,923 --> 00:45:28,794 young Canadian band, we got these odd-- it wasn't like some 840 00:45:28,794 --> 00:45:33,064 amazing west coast or east coast tour, it was like midwest and 841 00:45:33,064 --> 00:45:37,268 into Alabama and stuff like this and it was a long way for us to 842 00:45:37,268 --> 00:45:40,338 go for shows where we were not basically getting paid, maybe I 843 00:45:40,338 --> 00:45:42,240 don't even know I can't even remember we probably got paid a 844 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,142 hundred bucks a show or something like that. 845 00:45:44,142 --> 00:45:47,846 But Jordan was just like 'I got us on these 7 Angels 7 Plagues 846 00:45:47,846 --> 00:45:53,018 shows' and he was so so happy to get on that tour. 847 00:45:53,018 --> 00:45:55,220 They had done a couple tours out to the east coast and 848 00:45:55,220 --> 00:45:57,989 a few times in the States but I had never played music in the 849 00:45:57,989 --> 00:46:00,058 States before myself, that was great. 850 00:46:00,058 --> 00:46:02,961 We were just starting out so everything was still fresh and 851 00:46:02,961 --> 00:46:07,065 innocent we hit the road, we had a tour, it was big, we were 852 00:46:07,065 --> 00:46:10,568 young kids that just couldn't imagine doing anything more fun. 853 00:46:10,568 --> 00:46:12,337 Slow down slow down. 854 00:46:14,505 --> 00:46:18,176 The plan was to do about four weeks and then we 855 00:46:18,176 --> 00:46:21,813 were gonna come to Toronto and just try to make more waves 856 00:46:21,813 --> 00:46:23,448 out on the east coast. 857 00:46:23,448 --> 00:46:26,151 We were really looking forward to those shows with 7 Angels. 858 00:46:26,151 --> 00:46:28,219 The whole trip hinged upon getting across the border. 859 00:46:28,219 --> 00:46:31,089 Border crossings were always a really serious deal for 860 00:46:31,089 --> 00:46:34,826 Jordo and Jesse but I remember we got across and everything 861 00:46:34,826 --> 00:46:38,196 was cool. We went into the gas station and Jordo just walked up 862 00:46:38,196 --> 00:46:42,200 to me and punched me in the back and just started laughing. 863 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,135 And I remember just- 864 00:46:46,071 --> 00:46:49,440 just the sheer joy in his face and in the punch 865 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,576 it was just like it wasn't... 866 00:46:51,576 --> 00:46:54,880 he was so happy that he was going to get to... 867 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,850 7 Angels was Jordan's Metallica, the gods of gods to him. 868 00:46:58,850 --> 00:47:01,519 It's funny now thinking how much of a pedestal 869 00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:03,521 we put those guys on and looked up to them now that 870 00:47:03,521 --> 00:47:05,323 we're all just buds. 871 00:47:05,323 --> 00:47:07,158 But it would be like playing with Bruce Springsteen or 872 00:47:07,158 --> 00:47:10,395 something, I mean, they were our heroes and they were nice people 873 00:47:10,395 --> 00:47:14,099 that were really genuine and welcoming and were nice to us 874 00:47:14,099 --> 00:47:16,968 and they lived up to everything that we thought. 875 00:47:18,003 --> 00:47:22,373 We met those guys initially in Warsaw, Indiana. 876 00:47:22,373 --> 00:47:25,143 My old band the Pressure Point, we were all on tour together. 877 00:47:25,143 --> 00:47:27,545 But that show ended up getting shut down before we got 878 00:47:27,545 --> 00:47:31,950 a chance to play. So then we moved it down the road. 879 00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:33,985 And it was cool cause like this hall show and it got 880 00:47:33,985 --> 00:47:36,087 shut down and then it moved to this barn. 881 00:47:36,087 --> 00:47:38,589 And then they just set up in a fucking barn and there was like 882 00:47:38,589 --> 00:47:40,558 a giant tractor behind them and they were just rippin' in 883 00:47:40,558 --> 00:47:41,960 front of this tractor. 884 00:47:43,061 --> 00:47:44,395 There is a line in "The Year Summer Ended in June" 885 00:47:44,395 --> 00:47:45,663 about that night in Detroit. 886 00:47:45,663 --> 00:47:47,899 And that was kind of like when we said goodbye to Compromise 887 00:47:47,899 --> 00:47:50,568 cause they were planning to move out east after that tour. 888 00:47:50,568 --> 00:47:54,272 Knowing now what happened and everything, those goodbyes were 889 00:47:54,272 --> 00:47:58,043 so emotional at the time it was super overwhelming as it was. 890 00:47:59,144 --> 00:48:01,012 We were just saying goodbye for a few months, like they were 891 00:48:01,012 --> 00:48:03,081 gonna be coming back through town in September, and this 892 00:48:03,081 --> 00:48:04,649 would have been June. 893 00:48:06,584 --> 00:48:08,686 This might sound far-fetched but I can like still even feel the 894 00:48:08,686 --> 00:48:10,956 hug that I had with Jordan. 895 00:48:13,391 --> 00:48:16,394 We are at some sort of gas station right now and we 896 00:48:16,394 --> 00:48:19,497 noticed something a little weird about it. 897 00:48:25,536 --> 00:48:27,505 Compromise continued on with us and played a 898 00:48:27,505 --> 00:48:29,674 few more shows. They were super nice kids and 899 00:48:29,674 --> 00:48:31,542 we were stoked to be on tour with them at that point. 900 00:48:31,542 --> 00:48:33,344 They took a liking to Jordo and they took 901 00:48:33,344 --> 00:48:35,013 a liking to the band. 902 00:48:35,013 --> 00:48:36,181 We just bonded. 903 00:48:36,181 --> 00:48:38,583 There was this camaraderie that was starting to develop 904 00:48:38,583 --> 00:48:42,620 and we'd only been with those guys six days or something. 905 00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:43,821 Right here. 906 00:48:43,821 --> 00:48:45,656 I remember the last date that we played with them 907 00:48:45,656 --> 00:48:47,425 was in Birmingham, Alabama. 908 00:48:54,499 --> 00:48:56,301 Thank you, we're Compromise. 909 00:48:58,203 --> 00:49:01,506 It was so good, we were accepted by this band that we 910 00:49:01,506 --> 00:49:04,675 looked up to so much, and went out and had this wonderful 911 00:49:04,675 --> 00:49:08,446 dinner with them and everything was going very well. 912 00:49:09,047 --> 00:49:10,681 Everything was going so so well. 913 00:49:12,317 --> 00:49:14,452 We didn't even have a show in Savannah, we were just all 914 00:49:14,452 --> 00:49:16,354 talking and they were like "Let's go tonight, 915 00:49:16,354 --> 00:49:18,123 we'll get you on the show, don't worry about it." 916 00:49:18,123 --> 00:49:21,359 "Just come with us and we'll put you guys on the rest of the 917 00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:24,629 shows, and if they say you guys can't play then we won't play" 918 00:49:25,796 --> 00:49:27,532 It was the most validating experience, they were going to 919 00:49:27,532 --> 00:49:30,335 bat for us even though they'd only known us for a few days. 920 00:49:31,602 --> 00:49:33,538 The plan was for them to caravan with us. 921 00:49:33,538 --> 00:49:37,442 We drove a few hours with them and eventually they fell behind. 922 00:49:38,709 --> 00:49:41,312 Arriving in Savannah, we were at this house where the 923 00:49:41,312 --> 00:49:44,249 show was supposed to be and Compromise still hadn't shown up 924 00:49:44,249 --> 00:49:46,284 and it started to become a concern. 925 00:49:46,717 --> 00:49:48,519 Compromise was carrying so much shit with them cause 926 00:49:48,519 --> 00:49:49,787 they were moving. 927 00:49:49,787 --> 00:49:52,023 And they just had this fucking shitty van that they had like 928 00:49:52,023 --> 00:49:55,393 ram-packed with all their gear, all their personal belongings, 929 00:49:55,393 --> 00:49:58,263 all this shit just ram jammed into like one fuckin' van. 930 00:49:58,796 --> 00:50:01,299 So it was super heavy and shitty as it was. 931 00:50:01,732 --> 00:50:05,103 And our van just couldn't keep up, they had brand new vans, 932 00:50:06,504 --> 00:50:09,407 you know like those ones and we had an old school van. 933 00:50:10,508 --> 00:50:13,311 We just couldn't keep up and then it... 934 00:50:13,311 --> 00:50:14,779 and then stuff happened. 935 00:50:20,785 --> 00:50:23,054 We were always worried our van was gonna die so we 936 00:50:23,054 --> 00:50:26,224 drove slower than everybody else and they got in front of us. 937 00:50:26,224 --> 00:50:28,193 And at that point I think we were all sleeping except for 938 00:50:28,193 --> 00:50:30,061 Jesse who was driving. 939 00:50:33,164 --> 00:50:35,800 I remember we all filled up with gas and that was... 940 00:50:37,802 --> 00:50:40,071 I mean that's the last memory I personally have up until 941 00:50:40,071 --> 00:50:43,040 like a month or two later. 942 00:50:43,541 --> 00:50:46,211 It's been a difficult day for fans of 943 00:50:46,211 --> 00:50:49,280 Edmonton's hardcore music scene and the families of two 944 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,549 up-and-coming musicians killed in a highway crash. 945 00:50:51,549 --> 00:50:53,751 Trevadore Shanko has the latest on that tragedy. 946 00:50:57,388 --> 00:51:00,491 This is Compromise performing recently on stage. 947 00:51:00,491 --> 00:51:03,194 The Edmonton band's tour came to a crashing halt Thursday 948 00:51:03,194 --> 00:51:04,795 on the road in Alabama. 949 00:51:04,795 --> 00:51:06,864 I fought with them so much cause they were leaving for 950 00:51:06,864 --> 00:51:10,768 six months and I didn't want them to leave and, you know, 951 00:51:10,768 --> 00:51:13,771 six months would have been a lot better than forever. 952 00:51:13,771 --> 00:51:17,108 Claire Wyrostock's close friend is 19-year-old 953 00:51:17,108 --> 00:51:18,376 Jordan Wodehouse. 954 00:51:18,376 --> 00:51:20,511 He gave her these pictures of himself shortly before he and 955 00:51:20,511 --> 00:51:23,414 the other four members of Compromise headed out on tour. 956 00:51:23,414 --> 00:51:26,551 Early thursday morning outside of Heflin Alabama, the band's 957 00:51:26,551 --> 00:51:30,255 van was struck from behind by a Nissan Pathfinder. The van lost 958 00:51:30,255 --> 00:51:33,424 control and hit a tree throwing everyone from the vehicle. 959 00:51:33,424 --> 00:51:36,394 Wodehouse and 20-year-old Daniel Langois were killed. 960 00:51:37,362 --> 00:51:39,897 19-year-old bassist Braden Sustrik remains in intensive 961 00:51:39,897 --> 00:51:42,500 care with a punctured lung and fractured vertebrae. 962 00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:46,171 23-year-old singer Jesse Zaraska received cuts and bruises. 963 00:51:46,171 --> 00:51:48,673 And 20-year-old drummer Ryan Kittlitz broke his left wrist 964 00:51:48,673 --> 00:51:50,275 and right leg. 965 00:51:51,642 --> 00:51:54,412 Yeah here we are. This is after the accident, 966 00:51:54,412 --> 00:51:57,248 and this would be Braden in the hospital, Jesse who 967 00:51:57,248 --> 00:52:01,586 stayed with them while they recovered in Alabama. 968 00:52:02,287 --> 00:52:04,255 This is I guess a picture where it happened. 969 00:52:04,255 --> 00:52:06,624 I never went down the because I couldn't stomach it. 970 00:52:07,525 --> 00:52:10,328 I get this phone call from the officials down in Alabama saying 971 00:52:10,328 --> 00:52:13,731 that there had been an accident and that there had been some 972 00:52:13,731 --> 00:52:15,700 fatalities and they couldn't tell me who. 973 00:52:16,334 --> 00:52:19,437 I think instinctively I knew that Jesse was okay, but knowing 974 00:52:19,437 --> 00:52:22,707 those boys as well as I knew all those boys it was sick no 975 00:52:22,707 --> 00:52:25,876 matter how. They got rear ended by a drunk driver who pushed 976 00:52:25,876 --> 00:52:29,680 them into this grove of trees somehow and snapped the van 977 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,217 pretty much in half. 978 00:52:32,217 --> 00:52:33,818 Junior went out the front window, Braden went out the 979 00:52:33,818 --> 00:52:36,387 front window, Jesse went out the windshield and somehow cause 980 00:52:36,387 --> 00:52:39,590 he's like fucking Iron Man, didn't have like a fuckin, 981 00:52:39,590 --> 00:52:41,792 I think he broke a rib or something you know like... 982 00:52:43,461 --> 00:52:46,431 and so he went back to the van and he just like ran around 983 00:52:46,431 --> 00:52:47,732 and found everybody. 984 00:52:47,732 --> 00:52:50,901 First he found Junior, he was awake so he picked him up 985 00:52:50,901 --> 00:52:53,471 and went to look for everyone else. But Junior 986 00:52:53,471 --> 00:52:55,473 had broken his leg and didn't know it so as soon as he 987 00:52:55,473 --> 00:52:58,309 went to walk he just fell over in pain and he was screaming. 988 00:52:58,309 --> 00:53:00,278 "Jesse hang out with me" and Jesse said 989 00:53:00,278 --> 00:53:02,480 "Man I gotta find everyone else first". 990 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,650 So then he looked and he saw me next and I was laying down 991 00:53:05,650 --> 00:53:08,719 and I was breathing but I wasn't conscious. 992 00:53:10,388 --> 00:53:13,858 He said it seemed like I was alright so he left me be for a 993 00:53:13,858 --> 00:53:18,363 bit and went looking and he said at that point he saw a 994 00:53:18,363 --> 00:53:21,366 semi-truck had pulled over on the side of the highway and the 995 00:53:21,366 --> 00:53:24,669 driver had got out and was walking towards him so he 996 00:53:24,669 --> 00:53:27,838 ran over. And the guy said "I radioed for an ambulance, 997 00:53:27,838 --> 00:53:31,242 they're on their way. And I think your friend is up 998 00:53:31,242 --> 00:53:34,345 there on the road and I think he's been run over." 999 00:53:35,546 --> 00:53:38,215 Jesse was just like "What the fuck are you doing then? 1000 00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:40,017 Coward, what the fuck is wrong with you?" 1001 00:53:40,017 --> 00:53:42,853 and had to run down the road and pick Dan up. 1002 00:53:43,588 --> 00:53:46,557 I guess like we found out later that he'd fallen out 1003 00:53:46,557 --> 00:53:49,494 the back window of the van when we got hit, 1004 00:53:49,494 --> 00:53:51,996 or like the back door opened and he fell out and then he 1005 00:53:51,996 --> 00:53:55,266 got run over by the car that hit us. 1006 00:53:56,667 --> 00:53:58,903 So Jesse picked him up and like carried him off to the edge of 1007 00:53:58,903 --> 00:54:00,971 the road and held him. 1008 00:54:00,971 --> 00:54:05,310 He said he was alive but he was in pretty rough shape and he 1009 00:54:05,310 --> 00:54:07,778 didn't know what to do, but he didn't know where Jordan was. 1010 00:54:07,778 --> 00:54:10,848 So he kinda set Dan down and told him he'd be back and he ran 1011 00:54:10,848 --> 00:54:15,320 back down and he looked around and the last place he went to 1012 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,821 look was the van. 1013 00:54:19,557 --> 00:54:20,825 I found him. 1014 00:54:21,892 --> 00:54:26,464 I pulled all that fuckin weight off him 1015 00:54:26,464 --> 00:54:28,866 and pulled him out of that stupid fucking van. 1016 00:54:31,369 --> 00:54:33,404 And he looked untouched. 1017 00:54:34,372 --> 00:54:37,041 He wasn't bloody, he wasn't messed up. 1018 00:54:37,942 --> 00:54:39,410 He was fine. 1019 00:54:40,578 --> 00:54:43,714 I thought he's okay, he's just knocked out or something. 1020 00:54:46,050 --> 00:54:48,419 And the paramedics got there pretty soon. 1021 00:54:48,419 --> 00:54:50,621 The woman came down and I showed them where he was. 1022 00:54:53,824 --> 00:54:56,361 And she just said "He's gone. He's gone." 1023 00:55:04,068 --> 00:55:06,036 It was a fucking horrible night. 1024 00:55:11,976 --> 00:55:16,714 As messed up as I was, I wouldn't trade that for having 1025 00:55:16,714 --> 00:55:20,551 to be Jesse or deal with that night and have that memory. 1026 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,755 I don't know how he got past that. 1027 00:55:29,860 --> 00:55:31,696 I remember I was at my parent's house 1028 00:55:31,696 --> 00:55:32,930 at the time in the middle of the night. 1029 00:55:32,930 --> 00:55:35,700 I just got a phone call that there had been this accident. 1030 00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:37,802 They didn't really know for sure yet what happened. 1031 00:55:37,802 --> 00:55:41,138 I was just running around my house literally screaming. 1032 00:55:41,138 --> 00:55:44,709 Like just I didn't know what the hell to do. 1033 00:55:44,709 --> 00:55:48,879 Still in shock like hoping that it wasn't true. 1034 00:55:48,879 --> 00:55:51,882 We saw something on a message board that was 1035 00:55:51,882 --> 00:55:57,788 kind of cryptic, and it was about those guys and honoring 1036 00:55:57,788 --> 00:56:02,026 them and their memory living on and stuff, and we 1037 00:56:02,026 --> 00:56:05,830 didn't really understand what they were talking about. 1038 00:56:05,830 --> 00:56:10,067 Our band email had an email I believe from Jordan's parents. 1039 00:56:10,935 --> 00:56:14,138 It wasn't really informing us what happened as much as it was 1040 00:56:14,138 --> 00:56:19,610 them expressing to us how much our band meant to them. 1041 00:56:19,610 --> 00:56:22,513 And um ... excuse me... 1042 00:56:25,983 --> 00:56:29,019 how much they appreciated the fact that their children got 1043 00:56:29,019 --> 00:56:32,389 to spend their last moments doing-- 1044 00:56:35,125 --> 00:56:36,727 spend their last moments 1045 00:56:36,727 --> 00:56:38,629 doing what they love to do with their favorite band. 1046 00:56:39,464 --> 00:56:43,033 When I first heard about it, I think Dan was still alive 1047 00:56:44,535 --> 00:56:46,937 and there was a chance that he was going to live, 1048 00:56:48,205 --> 00:56:50,908 but yeah he was just so fucked up like... 1049 00:56:52,142 --> 00:56:54,111 I mean the shit Jesse's told me, 1050 00:56:54,111 --> 00:56:57,181 I don't even want to talk about cause it's super... 1051 00:56:58,583 --> 00:57:00,618 it's really graphic, and it's fucking sad. 1052 00:57:00,618 --> 00:57:01,519 but... 1053 00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:17,101 It's fucking brutal, man. 1054 00:57:26,043 --> 00:57:28,178 They were two of my best friends at the time, and 1055 00:57:28,178 --> 00:57:30,948 I just really looked forward to a future getting to know 1056 00:57:30,948 --> 00:57:34,519 those guys. It's taken too short, they were both only 1057 00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:37,655 19 years old, like, looking back we were just babies. 1058 00:57:39,824 --> 00:57:41,792 It's fucking tragedy. 1059 00:57:42,292 --> 00:57:45,129 I try not to talk about it unless Jesse wants to talk 1060 00:57:45,129 --> 00:57:48,232 about it. Some of the mothers, like the two mothers who lost 1061 00:57:48,232 --> 00:57:52,870 their children, had the report - the accident report, said 1062 00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:55,072 "Here you want to read it you want to read what happened?" 1063 00:57:55,072 --> 00:57:57,041 and I was like "No I don't wanna read what happened." 1064 00:57:57,041 --> 00:58:00,911 I can't imagine my child in the dark with his friends around him 1065 00:58:00,911 --> 00:58:06,551 not with him anymore and Braden and Junior not being able 1066 00:58:06,551 --> 00:58:09,119 to move, not being able to do anything and Jesse being lost in 1067 00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:11,188 the dark wondering what to do. 1068 00:58:11,188 --> 00:58:14,559 And it just it still still still kills me every time I think 1069 00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:17,928 about it, let alone sitting and reading about somebody having to 1070 00:58:17,928 --> 00:58:20,097 go through that sort of thing. 1071 00:58:20,097 --> 00:58:22,533 So whenever Jesse talks about it we talk about it but I don't 1072 00:58:22,533 --> 00:58:24,969 want the details I don't want to know the details. 1073 00:58:24,969 --> 00:58:29,006 And when you listen to him sing 'The Year Summer Ended In June' 1074 00:58:29,006 --> 00:58:31,275 you know how he feels about it. There's no doubt in your mind 1075 00:58:31,275 --> 00:58:34,945 how he feels about what happened and that dark night. 1076 00:58:39,216 --> 00:58:42,953 After that tour ended that was when Temo quit the band. 1077 00:58:44,254 --> 00:58:47,992 When I came home and found out that Temo had left. As hurt 1078 00:58:47,992 --> 00:58:51,929 as I was from the crash, I knew that that's what I had to do. 1079 00:58:51,929 --> 00:58:54,665 I said "Hey this is Jesse, singer of Compromise, I'm more 1080 00:58:54,665 --> 00:58:57,702 than willing to come down there and try out any time." 1081 00:58:57,702 --> 00:58:59,937 It felt like the right thing to do, it felt like 1082 00:58:59,937 --> 00:59:02,206 something had brought us together. 1083 00:59:02,206 --> 00:59:04,675 I think he looked at it as an opportunity to carry on their 1084 00:59:04,675 --> 00:59:07,344 legacy through the band that they love and the band that 1085 00:59:07,344 --> 00:59:10,280 they ended their life with. 1086 00:59:17,321 --> 00:59:20,157 So Jesse met up with us in the States and came back to 1087 00:59:20,157 --> 00:59:23,728 Milwaukee to be the new singer of 7 Angels 7 Plagues. 1088 00:59:24,261 --> 00:59:27,665 We continued to write and rehearse for an EP that we were 1089 00:59:27,665 --> 00:59:30,968 working on, and we ended up in the studio not long after that. 1090 00:59:30,968 --> 00:59:34,271 And that's when Jared gave us a call to inform us that 1091 00:59:34,271 --> 00:59:37,608 Matt and himself were going to be quitting the band. 1092 00:59:39,009 --> 00:59:41,145 There was never a point where we weren't gonna continue 1093 00:59:41,145 --> 00:59:44,949 on, it was like "He quit, okay, screw it whatever. 1094 00:59:44,949 --> 00:59:47,351 We're just gonna continue on", and we did. 1095 00:59:47,351 --> 00:59:49,720 But at that point we had already planned to do this 1096 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,622 'Yesterday Was Everything' festival. 1097 00:59:51,622 --> 00:59:55,159 Jordan's father thought it was a great idea to, only a few 1098 00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:58,796 months after the crash, raise awareness for drunk driving, 1099 00:59:58,796 --> 01:00:02,633 to celebrate his son you know. It was an amazing idea. 1100 01:00:02,633 --> 01:00:04,234 And he put it together so quick. 1101 01:00:04,234 --> 01:00:08,305 And the city just really really latched on to the idea. 1102 01:00:08,305 --> 01:00:10,240 And 7 Angels were supposed to play, and it was 1103 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,942 such a big fucking deal man. 1104 01:00:11,942 --> 01:00:14,645 Like it was the craziest shit that they were gonna come up and 1105 01:00:14,645 --> 01:00:16,413 play this show and that Jesse was gonna be singing. 1106 01:00:16,413 --> 01:00:18,215 Like it was like "Holy shit! 1107 01:00:18,215 --> 01:00:19,884 This is crazy," you know? 1108 01:00:20,350 --> 01:00:22,319 It was planned, we were gonna do it and then all of 1109 01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:24,689 a sudden Jared just says "I'm not gonna do it." You know. 1110 01:00:24,689 --> 01:00:28,025 And I'm so bummed I phoned him and you know, begged him, 1111 01:00:28,025 --> 01:00:30,227 "You gotta come, you don't know what this show is gonna 1112 01:00:30,227 --> 01:00:32,396 do it's gonna be healing. 1113 01:00:32,396 --> 01:00:34,932 It's gonna heal people. People need us there to play 1114 01:00:34,932 --> 01:00:36,934 those songs, it means the world to people." 1115 01:00:36,934 --> 01:00:40,070 At least come up and do this last run of shows and then 1116 01:00:40,070 --> 01:00:42,372 we'll all call it quits. 1117 01:00:42,372 --> 01:00:44,742 But they refused. 1118 01:00:45,710 --> 01:00:48,245 I think at that time we had never made a trip like that. 1119 01:00:48,245 --> 01:00:51,248 Like Edmonton was a place that we had never really probably 1120 01:00:51,248 --> 01:00:54,418 heard of before meeting these guys. 1121 01:00:54,418 --> 01:00:57,755 And it was you know a 30 hour drive from Milwaukee. 1122 01:00:58,856 --> 01:01:01,692 So I feel like that was just something that was too much for 1123 01:01:01,692 --> 01:01:04,428 them to wrap their heads around. 1124 01:01:04,428 --> 01:01:06,864 Kind of spineless and a bitch move to bail out when 1125 01:01:06,864 --> 01:01:08,032 there's that many people like... 1126 01:01:08,032 --> 01:01:10,234 it sounds like weird, but when there's that many people 1127 01:01:10,234 --> 01:01:12,402 depending on you. Because they were. 1128 01:01:12,402 --> 01:01:17,207 Like everybody needed like to be consoled in a way and that show 1129 01:01:17,207 --> 01:01:19,810 was like a way that that was going to happen, you know? 1130 01:01:20,778 --> 01:01:22,780 And luckily Branden just stepped up. 1131 01:01:23,347 --> 01:01:26,250 He learned the songs very well, very quickly. 1132 01:01:27,484 --> 01:01:29,820 The first time I went to Edmonton Braden was still in 1133 01:01:29,820 --> 01:01:33,891 a back brace and Junior was on crutches. 1134 01:01:33,891 --> 01:01:37,394 It was so soon after that the surviving members from the crash 1135 01:01:37,394 --> 01:01:39,797 were still recuperating. 1136 01:01:39,797 --> 01:01:42,900 We roll into town and we just have this like aura around 1137 01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:47,104 us automatically, just based on who we are and our involvement 1138 01:01:47,104 --> 01:01:51,008 with their friends who passed away, you know, weeks earlier. 1139 01:01:51,008 --> 01:01:53,410 We just immediately were taken in like we were a 1140 01:01:53,410 --> 01:01:56,213 part of the family. I just never experienced 1141 01:01:56,213 --> 01:01:59,049 love like that from people I'd never met. 1142 01:01:59,049 --> 01:02:02,386 Yeah I mean that band was like a... 1143 01:02:02,386 --> 01:02:06,123 you know they were like the flag for healing in a weird way. 1144 01:02:06,123 --> 01:02:11,428 And that festival was an extremely special time for 1145 01:02:11,428 --> 01:02:15,032 Jordan's family, for my family, for Braden's family, 1146 01:02:15,032 --> 01:02:16,834 for all of us Compromise guys. 1147 01:02:16,834 --> 01:02:20,971 Just to get together and you know, pay respects to 1148 01:02:20,971 --> 01:02:24,408 Dan and Jordan. You know they gave their lives for 1149 01:02:24,408 --> 01:02:26,844 that music so to be able to put on a fest where 1150 01:02:26,844 --> 01:02:29,046 everyone could get together and remember them. 1151 01:02:29,046 --> 01:02:32,817 I didn't get to go to either one of the funerals, 1152 01:02:32,817 --> 01:02:35,052 so for me on a personal level, it was kind of like a 1153 01:02:35,052 --> 01:02:36,954 celebration of what had happened, but then 1154 01:02:36,954 --> 01:02:39,924 kind of a celebration of the future. I mean Jesse came back 1155 01:02:39,924 --> 01:02:43,828 with his new band, and there was a lot of optimism. You know, 1156 01:02:43,828 --> 01:02:46,864 this really sad thing, but we were trying to move forward. 1157 01:02:48,899 --> 01:02:50,868 We're 7 Angels 7 Plagues from Milwaukee Wisconsin. 1158 01:02:51,268 --> 01:02:52,903 Let's have some fun. 1159 01:02:58,408 --> 01:02:59,443 # With plastic face designs 1160 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,982 The fact that we were a four-piece didn't matter. 1161 01:03:04,982 --> 01:03:08,152 We weren't 7 Angels in it's original inception, but the 1162 01:03:08,152 --> 01:03:12,222 crowd and the emotion behind it drove the show. 1163 01:03:12,222 --> 01:03:17,261 I remember being on stage, and looking over side-stage and 1164 01:03:17,261 --> 01:03:21,431 seeing Stuart side-stage just in tears while we were playing. 1165 01:03:23,567 --> 01:03:27,371 This is what it all was leading up to, and we were finally here 1166 01:03:27,371 --> 01:03:29,974 honoring the memory of these kids. 1167 01:03:31,408 --> 01:03:35,579 I thank you all, every one of you. 1168 01:03:37,281 --> 01:03:40,918 Jordan thanks you all, he's smiling big time no doubt. 1169 01:03:49,894 --> 01:03:53,263 I wanna know that you'll all be here next year. 1170 01:03:58,668 --> 01:04:00,404 Cause you know what? 1171 01:04:00,404 --> 01:04:03,540 As long as I'm Jordan's dad, this is gonna happen every year. 1172 01:04:07,377 --> 01:04:09,613 Yeah, through Yesterday Was Everything Fest, 1173 01:04:09,613 --> 01:04:13,017 and even the formation of Misery Signals, everything is... 1174 01:04:13,017 --> 01:04:16,086 not closure, but it's, you know, 1175 01:04:16,086 --> 01:04:18,422 helped us all cope with it in some way. 1176 01:04:24,461 --> 01:04:27,631 Good, you? What did you guys end up doing last night? 1177 01:04:28,698 --> 01:04:30,567 Not much, we got out of the club pretty late. 1178 01:04:31,535 --> 01:04:33,170 Oh fuck. This is crazy. 1179 01:04:34,404 --> 01:04:36,974 JFK, what the fuck are you doing to me man? 1180 01:04:36,974 --> 01:04:39,543 What is this? This is a joke right, 1181 01:04:39,543 --> 01:04:42,046 we're getting punked right now, right? What the fuck? 1182 01:04:52,957 --> 01:04:55,525 We had already decided that we were going to 1183 01:04:55,525 --> 01:04:58,963 break up 7 Angels and start a new project. 1184 01:04:58,963 --> 01:05:01,531 So Jeff like came out, and was in the band, they wrote 1185 01:05:01,531 --> 01:05:03,500 that EP, and recorded it, and they just hit the road. 1186 01:05:03,500 --> 01:05:05,435 I feel like it happened in no time, because they were in 1187 01:05:05,435 --> 01:05:08,939 Edmonton doing that shit in June, and I feel like they were 1188 01:05:08,939 --> 01:05:12,576 on tour for the Misery Signals EP by October or something. 1189 01:05:12,576 --> 01:05:15,079 It happened super fast. 1190 01:05:16,746 --> 01:05:19,349 And then luckily for me Jeff quit the band. 1191 01:05:20,450 --> 01:05:23,287 For Misery Signals to put out that first EP where a 1192 01:05:23,287 --> 01:05:25,122 lot of it dealt with that accident, 1193 01:05:25,122 --> 01:05:26,456 that was a pretty major thing. 1194 01:05:26,456 --> 01:05:29,459 The song "The Year Summer Ended in June" is probably one of the 1195 01:05:29,459 --> 01:05:32,662 most personal and touching songs I've ever heard, because it's 1196 01:05:32,662 --> 01:05:35,399 written about our friends and what we all went through. 1197 01:05:35,399 --> 01:05:37,634 When you're a band that makes songs, no matter how 1198 01:05:37,634 --> 01:05:40,971 personal they are, once you put em out there and they become 1199 01:05:40,971 --> 01:05:43,640 special to other people for their own reasons, 1200 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,176 they cease to be just personal. 1201 01:05:46,176 --> 01:05:48,345 They're still personal songs, and they can still mean that to 1202 01:05:48,345 --> 01:05:50,447 you, but they mean so many things to so many other people 1203 01:05:50,447 --> 01:05:52,416 that the life of the song is beyond just 1204 01:05:52,416 --> 01:05:54,251 your experience with it. 1205 01:05:55,085 --> 01:05:58,055 I didn't necessarily write the riffs and have that in mind, but 1206 01:05:58,055 --> 01:06:01,558 I know it had a feel to it, and a texture that was definitely 1207 01:06:01,558 --> 01:06:04,661 drawn from the environment that we were in emotionally 1208 01:06:04,661 --> 01:06:07,364 at the time. But the time that it took it's true 1209 01:06:07,364 --> 01:06:08,698 form is when Jesse wrote the lyrics. 1210 01:06:09,366 --> 01:06:12,636 We want to call to the stage, our good friend, 1211 01:06:12,636 --> 01:06:16,306 our brother Mr. Ryan "Junior" Kittlitz to the 1212 01:06:16,306 --> 01:06:17,741 play the next song with us. 1213 01:06:21,745 --> 01:06:25,115 This next song is likely the most important song that we 1214 01:06:25,115 --> 01:06:28,152 wrote, or at least that I wrote I feel, on this record. 1215 01:06:29,386 --> 01:06:31,555 This song is called The Year Summer Ended in June. 1216 01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:50,440 Who knows what turn their lives could have taken, but at 1217 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,776 the time, all those dudes wanted to do was tour and play music. 1218 01:07:21,371 --> 01:07:23,640 ...and how you're always with me. 1219 01:07:26,410 --> 01:07:31,315 In a weird, sad way, without the accident happening, 1220 01:07:31,315 --> 01:07:35,419 and without Jordan and Dan passing away, I don't know if I 1221 01:07:35,419 --> 01:07:38,122 would ever have played guitar for Misery Signals, 1222 01:07:38,122 --> 01:07:41,158 or done all the touring, met all the people that I've met. 1223 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:44,594 I wouldn't have met my wife. 1224 01:07:45,429 --> 01:07:46,863 It changed my life. 1225 01:07:46,863 --> 01:07:48,765 It literally changed the course of my life. 1226 01:07:50,367 --> 01:07:54,471 I feel so selfish saying it, but without the accident happening, 1227 01:07:54,471 --> 01:07:57,474 all the good things in my life might not exist. 1228 01:08:01,545 --> 01:08:04,348 Compromise asked me to go on tour with them, 1229 01:08:04,348 --> 01:08:07,151 on that tour that the accident happened. 1230 01:08:07,151 --> 01:08:10,354 Weird to think back on, had I gone on that tour, I would have 1231 01:08:10,354 --> 01:08:12,889 been in that accident too, and who knows if I would have still 1232 01:08:12,889 --> 01:08:14,758 been here right now. 1233 01:08:16,226 --> 01:08:18,328 Shit y'know, the same thing could happen to us, 1234 01:08:18,328 --> 01:08:21,298 there could be another accident, and I might not be here. 1235 01:08:21,298 --> 01:08:24,434 It's one of those things that's always on your mind that it 1236 01:08:24,434 --> 01:08:26,570 could happen to you. 1237 01:08:42,719 --> 01:08:44,188 You hear that? 1238 01:08:44,188 --> 01:08:46,523 We will finish earlier than planned. 1239 01:08:47,457 --> 01:08:50,627 9:35 to 10:30 for us roughly. 1240 01:08:52,596 --> 01:08:55,465 So we could be out of here by midnight and still get a decent 1241 01:08:55,465 --> 01:08:58,835 amount of sleep before we have to get up. We have nowhere set 1242 01:08:58,835 --> 01:09:01,305 to go in Minneapolis, so we'll be there all day. 1243 01:09:01,305 --> 01:09:04,274 We could even leave at six, if we wanted to be safe. 1244 01:09:13,717 --> 01:09:15,252 Jesse's car broke down. 1245 01:09:17,254 --> 01:09:19,189 They are four and a half hours away, which is an hour later 1246 01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:21,858 than we're supposed to play. 1247 01:09:23,393 --> 01:09:26,663 We don't want to leave an hour between Waster and us 1248 01:09:26,663 --> 01:09:29,599 with the kids waiting. So we should realistically 1249 01:09:29,599 --> 01:09:33,237 try and plan for a 10:30 stage time, maybe even 11:00. 1250 01:09:34,003 --> 01:09:36,340 Which sucks for a Monday night. 1251 01:09:36,340 --> 01:09:38,308 Wanna know what I really think happened? They probably just 1252 01:09:38,308 --> 01:09:40,910 left their house super late, that's what I think. 1253 01:09:42,946 --> 01:09:44,781 They stayed at their own house. 1254 01:09:44,781 --> 01:09:46,450 These are the new times. 1255 01:09:47,551 --> 01:09:50,720 Doors at 7:15, we'll just push the opener back to 8:15, 1256 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,891 to 8:45, and then 20 minute changeover for them, 1257 01:09:54,891 --> 01:09:57,894 with a half hour set, give us a half hour changeover, 1258 01:09:57,894 --> 01:09:59,496 that puts us on at 10:00. 1259 01:09:59,496 --> 01:10:01,331 And we can stall from there if we have to? 1260 01:10:01,331 --> 01:10:02,599 I was thinking about this, 1261 01:10:02,599 --> 01:10:06,470 we can't really go past 10:45. 10:30 is usually where we cut 1262 01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:09,539 it on weekdays, so fifteen minutes late as it is. 1263 01:10:09,539 --> 01:10:10,974 We just had a situation. 1264 01:10:10,974 --> 01:10:14,444 Our singer is traveling separately, and had car trouble. 1265 01:10:14,444 --> 01:10:17,647 So he's actually roughly four hours away still. 1266 01:10:17,647 --> 01:10:19,015 - Really? - Yeah 1267 01:10:19,015 --> 01:10:20,384 Oh my god. 1268 01:10:21,385 --> 01:10:23,387 We could get on by 10:00 at the earliest. 1269 01:10:23,387 --> 01:10:24,621 Okay. 1270 01:10:25,689 --> 01:10:28,024 So, is there a curfew, is the curfew 11:00? 1271 01:10:28,024 --> 01:10:29,759 - Yeah, yeah it is. - Okay. 1272 01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:33,863 So I guess the best that we could hope for is, if he 1273 01:10:33,863 --> 01:10:36,933 arrives before 10:00 then we'll go on as soon as he gets here. 1274 01:10:38,368 --> 01:10:41,305 Are we sure he's not exaggerating like "oh dude I'll 1275 01:10:41,305 --> 01:10:43,273 be there at 10:00, no problem." 1276 01:10:43,273 --> 01:10:46,676 He said he's four hours away about 45 minutes ago, and 1277 01:10:46,676 --> 01:10:48,612 it's 6:23 right now so... 1278 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,483 I'm just gonna have him keep me updated as time goes on. 1279 01:10:53,483 --> 01:10:55,585 I don't know what else we can do really. 1280 01:10:56,953 --> 01:10:58,988 If we have to play half the album 1281 01:10:58,988 --> 01:11:01,425 and that's it, then so be it. 1282 01:11:03,527 --> 01:11:05,595 If he goes past 10:00 O'clock we're cutting songs, 1283 01:11:05,595 --> 01:11:07,297 and cutting time off the set, so- 1284 01:11:08,498 --> 01:11:11,901 And cutting songs from a set of nine shows for 1285 01:11:11,901 --> 01:11:13,970 a ten-year anniversary of a record. 1286 01:11:15,405 --> 01:11:16,440 Right. 1287 01:11:17,407 --> 01:11:18,442 It's not just like a regular show, y'know? 1288 01:11:18,442 --> 01:11:21,044 Right, it's not like we'll be back in two months. 1289 01:11:22,712 --> 01:11:25,482 Out of ten shows, it was bound to happen that their car 1290 01:11:25,482 --> 01:11:27,417 would break down at some point. 1291 01:11:27,851 --> 01:11:29,052 So it's just no surprise. 1292 01:11:30,554 --> 01:11:32,489 I mean there's shit back in the day where like, 1293 01:11:33,490 --> 01:11:36,059 we'd be on stage, ready to play. 1294 01:11:37,394 --> 01:11:39,863 And the tour manager from the other band would be like "Start! 1295 01:11:39,863 --> 01:11:41,798 You guys are fuckin five minutes over already, start!" 1296 01:11:43,833 --> 01:11:45,502 And we'd just start without him. 1297 01:11:49,806 --> 01:11:52,108 ...your name, the band, and 1298 01:11:52,108 --> 01:11:54,911 "You're listening to Radioactive Metal." 1299 01:11:54,911 --> 01:11:56,446 Can I just get you to say that. 1300 01:11:56,446 --> 01:11:57,347 Okay. 1301 01:11:57,781 --> 01:11:58,948 You ready for it? Whenever? 1302 01:11:58,948 --> 01:12:00,049 Yup, whenever. 1303 01:12:00,049 --> 01:12:01,818 Hey what's up, this is Ryan from Misery Signals and 1304 01:12:01,818 --> 01:12:03,653 you're listening to Radioactive Metal. 1305 01:12:05,021 --> 01:12:06,623 Excellent. 1306 01:12:09,926 --> 01:12:12,328 So the band before you is going on now? 1307 01:12:15,965 --> 01:12:16,833 Yes 1308 01:12:21,671 --> 01:12:25,008 We've dealt with this shit with Jesse forever. 1309 01:12:25,008 --> 01:12:27,611 We've known about all these things. Whatever. 1310 01:12:27,611 --> 01:12:30,914 My goal from the start was just to try and get this thing to 1311 01:12:30,914 --> 01:12:34,418 actually happen, and I knew that there would be some sacrifices 1312 01:12:34,418 --> 01:12:38,688 because Jesse is just out of his mind in ways. 1313 01:12:40,890 --> 01:12:44,027 I couldn't do this with Jesse on a regular basis. 1314 01:12:44,027 --> 01:12:46,763 Nobody would want to deal with the stress that comes 1315 01:12:46,763 --> 01:12:50,734 along with it. Doing it like this, ten shows, it's great. 1316 01:12:50,734 --> 01:12:52,836 It's fun. 1317 01:12:52,836 --> 01:12:56,873 The bullshit doesn't really have a negative impact on me at all. 1318 01:12:58,808 --> 01:13:01,811 I know that it's not my life anymore, that it's just 1319 01:13:01,811 --> 01:13:05,415 a one-time thing. And when we finish the tour on 1320 01:13:05,415 --> 01:13:08,718 the 23rd in Toronto, that's that, y'know, it's over. 1321 01:13:09,519 --> 01:13:11,154 We've got a line check, so you've got a minute... 1322 01:13:11,154 --> 01:13:14,758 - Is there a bathroom down here? - Yeah there's two there. 1323 01:13:24,668 --> 01:13:26,570 It's 9:57 1324 01:13:51,895 --> 01:13:53,597 Good evening Winnipeg. 1325 01:14:05,642 --> 01:14:07,911 We're running a little behind today, so we're just 1326 01:14:07,911 --> 01:14:10,914 going to line check B-Ball's drums and get the support bands 1327 01:14:10,914 --> 01:14:14,518 up. Doors are at six and it's twenty after five right now. 1328 01:14:15,218 --> 01:14:18,054 Had a little hang up at the border, probably could have left 1329 01:14:18,054 --> 01:14:21,525 a little earlier this morning, but y'know, these things happen. 1330 01:14:21,525 --> 01:14:23,793 This is the way of the road man. 1331 01:14:23,793 --> 01:14:26,896 Last night was the first kind of, taste of reality I guess. 1332 01:14:26,896 --> 01:14:29,766 The reality that not all the shows are going to go as 1333 01:14:29,766 --> 01:14:31,501 perfect as the other ones. 1334 01:14:33,637 --> 01:14:35,739 I'm glad last night was kinda how it was. 1335 01:14:35,739 --> 01:14:38,074 Sort of a good reality check for the band. 1336 01:14:38,074 --> 01:14:39,743 It was a little slower. 1337 01:14:39,743 --> 01:14:41,244 It was kind of a dip in the energy. 1338 01:14:41,244 --> 01:14:43,880 By any other standards, it was great. It was just 1339 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,783 juxtaposed with some shows that were totally off the hook. 1340 01:14:48,952 --> 01:14:51,220 I think it's just healthy for everyone's mindset to have a 1341 01:14:51,220 --> 01:14:53,690 show like that every once in awhile. 1342 01:14:53,690 --> 01:14:56,760 Especially in this situation, because if the whole tour was so 1343 01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,962 sick all the way through, it might be one of those things 1344 01:14:58,962 --> 01:15:01,230 like "oh dude, we gotta get the band back together and do it 1345 01:15:01,230 --> 01:15:04,167 like this all the time" or something. But it wouldn't be 1346 01:15:04,167 --> 01:15:07,070 like this all the time unless it wasn't a special thing. 1347 01:15:07,771 --> 01:15:10,306 It's a cool note to end a chapter on, to do a bunch of 1348 01:15:10,306 --> 01:15:12,809 really cool shows that are really well attended and 1349 01:15:12,809 --> 01:15:14,844 people are going crazy. 1350 01:15:16,746 --> 01:15:19,683 But it's also gotta have a dose of reality in it because, 1351 01:15:19,683 --> 01:15:22,118 it's over after this, y'know? 1352 01:15:27,123 --> 01:15:30,226 I have mixed feelings about touring after doing it for so 1353 01:15:30,226 --> 01:15:33,296 long and after having the life that I have now with 1354 01:15:33,296 --> 01:15:35,965 home and family. I miss lots about it. 1355 01:15:36,933 --> 01:15:39,235 Never tiring of a place because you're in a new spot all 1356 01:15:39,235 --> 01:15:41,838 the time. You're out there doing it, you have one goal a day, 1357 01:15:41,838 --> 01:15:43,907 and that's get to the show, get everything set up and 1358 01:15:43,907 --> 01:15:45,675 do the show. And that's very singular. 1359 01:15:45,675 --> 01:15:48,077 And outside of that you just wander and do what you want, 1360 01:15:48,077 --> 01:15:50,947 and look for your own fun, and your own relaxation. 1361 01:15:51,748 --> 01:15:53,750 That's awesome because things are complicated when you're at 1362 01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:56,352 home, and it's not as focused, and you have to micro-manage all 1363 01:15:56,352 --> 01:15:59,222 these decisions and build something to work towards. 1364 01:15:59,222 --> 01:16:01,825 It's hard for me sometimes to manufacture those things when 1365 01:16:01,825 --> 01:16:05,762 I'm used to just focusing on the band and the show. 1366 01:16:05,762 --> 01:16:08,765 Going in there and getting it done, and as soon as you take 1367 01:16:08,765 --> 01:16:11,868 your amp of stage, that goal is done, it's checked off. 1368 01:16:11,868 --> 01:16:13,903 Let's go to the next city and do it again. 1369 01:16:13,903 --> 01:16:17,006 The flip side of that coin of course is that I have to be 1370 01:16:17,006 --> 01:16:18,174 away from my family. 1371 01:16:18,174 --> 01:16:21,210 I have to be away from my home like that I'm working on 1372 01:16:21,210 --> 01:16:24,347 building up, and it's harder and harder to do. 1373 01:16:25,248 --> 01:16:29,185 In a way this is a throwback to all the great shows 1374 01:16:29,185 --> 01:16:33,690 we did over the years, and even the smaller, fun shows we did 1375 01:16:33,690 --> 01:16:35,859 back when Jesse was in the band and we were doing 1376 01:16:35,859 --> 01:16:38,127 the "Malice" songs on that record. 1377 01:16:39,395 --> 01:16:42,732 But i a way I've done all these shows before. 1378 01:16:42,732 --> 01:16:45,969 If I were doing it just as something I was still doing, 1379 01:16:45,969 --> 01:16:47,203 I think it would make me sad. 1380 01:16:51,975 --> 01:16:53,342 # It was the last time 1381 01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,883 # We lost a fight without you 1382 01:17:03,252 --> 01:17:05,021 # And finally now 1383 01:17:06,823 --> 01:17:09,225 10010 is the ZIP. 1384 01:17:09,225 --> 01:17:10,293 Got it. 1385 01:17:10,994 --> 01:17:12,328 Calculating route. 1386 01:17:14,898 --> 01:17:16,966 Two and a half hours, plus traffic. 1387 01:17:25,875 --> 01:17:29,178 Yeah their van broke down about 4:00 AM 1388 01:17:29,178 --> 01:17:30,914 last night in Cleveland. 1389 01:17:33,817 --> 01:17:35,318 Yeah, brutal. 1390 01:17:36,285 --> 01:17:38,121 Especially since they were only on four shows. 1391 01:17:39,222 --> 01:17:40,790 This is probably gonna be the best one. 1392 01:17:41,991 --> 01:17:45,094 So do you want to keep on schedule, 1393 01:17:45,094 --> 01:17:46,930 or do you want to move it up? 1394 01:17:48,464 --> 01:17:50,867 So our set time will probably be the same regardless. 1395 01:17:56,339 --> 01:17:58,341 It's been a lot of stuff man. 1396 01:17:59,475 --> 01:18:01,477 I mean, I'm kind of getting to the point where I'm thinking a 1397 01:18:01,477 --> 01:18:04,447 lot about home and just reacclimating to real life. 1398 01:18:04,447 --> 01:18:06,750 There's kind of a lot of stuff hanging over my head back home 1399 01:18:06,750 --> 01:18:08,017 that I have to deal with. 1400 01:18:09,318 --> 01:18:11,788 It's been convenient to have a tour to just escape from it and 1401 01:18:11,788 --> 01:18:13,957 not really think about it. 1402 01:18:13,957 --> 01:18:16,760 The whole thing has been this constant roller 1403 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,395 coaster of happy sad, y'know. 1404 01:18:21,097 --> 01:18:23,266 I think this whole thing has been positive overall, but it's 1405 01:18:23,266 --> 01:18:27,336 mixed at times and it's been crazy delving into the past. 1406 01:18:29,405 --> 01:18:30,874 It all happened. 1407 01:18:32,175 --> 01:18:35,111 The story is heavy, and I think that the lyrics are heavy, and 1408 01:18:35,111 --> 01:18:39,415 why has this been so successful? It's because people experience 1409 01:18:39,415 --> 01:18:42,852 heavy things in life and they relate to those lyrics. 1410 01:18:43,252 --> 01:18:45,221 I don't think we could do this without, at times, touching on 1411 01:18:45,221 --> 01:18:48,858 heavy things and getting sad, getting mad, 1412 01:18:48,858 --> 01:18:50,126 whatever the case may be. 1413 01:18:50,126 --> 01:18:53,462 That record is sad, and it is mad, but it's about catharsis. 1414 01:18:53,462 --> 01:18:56,432 It's about getting past all that garbage, you know what I mean? 1415 01:18:56,432 --> 01:18:58,768 I think that's what those songs have done for kids, that's what 1416 01:18:58,768 --> 01:19:02,005 that record did for me. As dark as it is, it's not all 1417 01:19:02,005 --> 01:19:05,174 "oh I hate life, this sucks," you know what I mean? 1418 01:19:05,174 --> 01:19:07,276 It's like "this is bad, but we're working through it." 1419 01:19:08,444 --> 01:19:11,114 We gotta get an O.G. Misery Signals lineup picture. 1420 01:19:11,848 --> 01:19:13,783 Would I do something more? 1421 01:19:14,884 --> 01:19:16,820 At the beginning of this, I would have said no way. 1422 01:19:16,820 --> 01:19:19,155 But I cannot deny what has happened. 1423 01:19:19,155 --> 01:19:22,358 I cannot deny what I see in the kids' faces every night. 1424 01:19:22,358 --> 01:19:24,327 I cannot deny the things they say to me. 1425 01:19:25,294 --> 01:19:27,763 We created fantastic art together. 1426 01:19:29,032 --> 01:19:30,233 And-- 1427 01:19:32,501 --> 01:19:34,037 I don't want it to end. 1428 01:19:35,104 --> 01:19:36,840 I don't want it to be over now. 1429 01:19:38,441 --> 01:19:41,010 I don't know what that means, I don't know what that looks like, 1430 01:19:41,010 --> 01:19:43,479 I don't know what- how we proceed. 1431 01:19:45,114 --> 01:19:49,853 But if Karl leaves, or if we can extend this in any way, 1432 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:52,388 I'm willing. 1433 01:19:53,222 --> 01:19:56,192 It's been sort of a long time coming with Karl that he 1434 01:19:56,192 --> 01:20:00,063 hasn't contributed much to the band, and it's decreased 1435 01:20:00,063 --> 01:20:02,165 as time has gone on. 1436 01:20:03,632 --> 01:20:05,969 After coming back and playing these shows with Jesse, and 1437 01:20:05,969 --> 01:20:08,571 seeing the side of the coin where the singer's enthusiastic 1438 01:20:08,571 --> 01:20:12,108 and passionate, and has something on the line, like 1439 01:20:12,108 --> 01:20:15,578 Jesse is nervous before the show and he has an emotional 1440 01:20:15,578 --> 01:20:19,849 attachment to it. That's what I think a singer's main job is, 1441 01:20:19,849 --> 01:20:23,352 to be the gateway between the audience and the songs. 1442 01:20:23,352 --> 01:20:27,223 And now that we've gone back and done great shows and had both 1443 01:20:27,223 --> 01:20:30,927 sides of that, I don't want to go back. 1444 01:20:32,161 --> 01:20:34,330 I think it would be a lot more exciting instead of getting 1445 01:20:34,330 --> 01:20:38,367 "New Guy X" to sing for the band to bring Jesse back. 1446 01:20:38,367 --> 01:20:40,069 That's exciting, that's familiar, that's something 1447 01:20:40,069 --> 01:20:42,371 people have wanted for like ten years. 1448 01:20:42,371 --> 01:20:44,974 You know, bring back the guy that wears his heart on his 1449 01:20:44,974 --> 01:20:48,644 sleeve and probably cared about being in that band more than 1450 01:20:48,644 --> 01:20:50,914 anyone at the beginning. 1451 01:20:50,914 --> 01:20:53,182 I think what a lot of people would like to come out of 1452 01:20:53,182 --> 01:20:56,152 this is a reformation of that original lineup, and maybe more 1453 01:20:56,152 --> 01:20:58,922 music from those guys because 'Malice' was such a special 1454 01:20:58,922 --> 01:21:01,991 album but at this point it doesn't seem like it's possible 1455 01:21:01,991 --> 01:21:05,361 to happen right, like they've had three albums since 1456 01:21:05,361 --> 01:21:08,064 with Karl. Misery Signals is something else now. 1457 01:21:08,064 --> 01:21:10,934 Stu's not in the band, Greg's in the band. 1458 01:21:12,268 --> 01:21:15,004 People maybe just have to accept that it was a 1459 01:21:15,004 --> 01:21:17,573 really special thing for the time it came out and just sort 1460 01:21:17,573 --> 01:21:19,242 of cherish it for that. 1461 01:21:19,675 --> 01:21:22,611 I don't think that there's really much potential 1462 01:21:22,611 --> 01:21:26,249 for anything else, as far as Jesse's involvement beyond this 1463 01:21:26,249 --> 01:21:27,450 point with us. 1464 01:21:27,450 --> 01:21:30,920 I know that it's kind of an unfair gauge to work off of, 1465 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,423 because it is a special event every night. 1466 01:21:34,423 --> 01:21:37,460 He hasn't had the last six or seven years of slugging 1467 01:21:37,460 --> 01:21:40,263 it out. Not just coming in and killing it at 1468 01:21:40,263 --> 01:21:42,966 these shows that have been just like home runs. 1469 01:21:42,966 --> 01:21:45,701 He has Misery Signals shows seven years ago, and then he has 1470 01:21:45,701 --> 01:21:49,438 this reunion tour which has been like a smash success. 1471 01:21:50,106 --> 01:21:53,442 Me, Brandon, and Kyle, and to an extent Stu have had years 1472 01:21:53,442 --> 01:21:56,579 and years of these ups and downs and Winnipeg every night 1473 01:21:56,579 --> 01:21:57,846 for a whole tour. 1474 01:21:57,846 --> 01:22:00,316 It kind of gives you a false sense of accomplishment 1475 01:22:00,316 --> 01:22:02,485 in a way. Beyond this I don't think that they would 1476 01:22:02,485 --> 01:22:04,387 continue to be like this. 1477 01:22:04,387 --> 01:22:06,990 I think that you know you can ride the hype for a little 1478 01:22:06,990 --> 01:22:10,359 while, but once it's said and done and kids kind of see what 1479 01:22:10,359 --> 01:22:13,662 they've been waiting to see for years, it'll just go back to a 1480 01:22:13,662 --> 01:22:17,566 different version of what we have now; no better, no worse. 1481 01:22:20,003 --> 01:22:22,538 Stu's offered to me that maybe including him on the 1482 01:22:22,538 --> 01:22:25,008 writing of something else would be sweet. 1483 01:22:25,774 --> 01:22:28,177 I don't know if it'll happen or not. I don't know 1484 01:22:28,177 --> 01:22:31,547 if he he wholeheartedly means what he's offering. 1485 01:22:31,547 --> 01:22:34,317 If it came to pass, I don't know how into it he'd be and if he 1486 01:22:34,317 --> 01:22:36,585 would just get back to the place he was at when he quit the band 1487 01:22:36,585 --> 01:22:39,055 initially, and just bail. Because that would hurt a lot, 1488 01:22:39,055 --> 01:22:42,025 and I don't know if I'm willing to risk that. 1489 01:22:42,025 --> 01:22:44,460 But also to me the band's in a weird spot where it might just 1490 01:22:44,460 --> 01:22:47,596 be done too, so like what's to risk really, you know? 1491 01:23:52,795 --> 01:23:54,363 # How could I 1492 01:23:56,665 --> 01:23:58,434 # justify this 1493 01:24:01,170 --> 01:24:03,706 # I can make anything alright 1494 01:24:05,274 --> 01:24:06,609 # But what do you know 1495 01:24:09,278 --> 01:24:11,280 # about sacrifice 1496 01:24:14,383 --> 01:24:16,419 # You are no lamb 1497 01:24:19,255 --> 01:24:20,789 # Any man a creep 1498 01:24:22,691 --> 01:24:25,428 # Any man deserving 1499 01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:30,166 # Any man A victim, 1500 01:24:32,501 --> 01:24:34,137 # a target 1501 01:25:00,163 --> 01:25:02,165 Thank you New York City, 1502 01:25:06,402 --> 01:25:08,804 it is absolutely wonderful to be back. 1503 01:25:17,446 --> 01:25:19,748 I don't know all the levels that it's happening on, 1504 01:25:19,748 --> 01:25:22,285 but something- something really good is happening here. 1505 01:25:22,285 --> 01:25:25,421 I was on stage in New York last night and it was so good, 1506 01:25:25,421 --> 01:25:28,157 the show was so great. And they had to keep the lights on 1507 01:25:28,157 --> 01:25:31,327 for the audience just as safety measure for that club, 1508 01:25:31,327 --> 01:25:34,597 and I could see everyone in the crowd. 1509 01:25:34,597 --> 01:25:36,799 There were so many people singing along and going crazy 1510 01:25:36,799 --> 01:25:38,066 and I was just grinning. 1511 01:25:38,066 --> 01:25:42,471 I don't know if it's because I feel like it's run it's course 1512 01:25:42,471 --> 01:25:45,174 in a way and it's almost over, this is one of the last great 1513 01:25:45,174 --> 01:25:50,179 awesome moments, but I could feel like the totality 1514 01:25:50,179 --> 01:25:51,880 of the band in a way. 1515 01:25:57,420 --> 01:25:59,355 It feels really good to have done this tour. 1516 01:25:59,355 --> 01:26:02,391 I'm really happy with how it went, and not just on a like 1517 01:26:02,391 --> 01:26:05,228 level of the shows were good and people came out 1518 01:26:05,228 --> 01:26:07,896 and went crazy, which they did, and that made it a lot of fun. 1519 01:26:07,896 --> 01:26:11,834 But as far as getting to spend time with these dudes and see 1520 01:26:11,834 --> 01:26:14,203 all the old friends. 1521 01:26:14,203 --> 01:26:17,206 I'm not really sure I'm consciously aware of everything 1522 01:26:17,206 --> 01:26:20,943 that has happened but there's something therapeutic about 1523 01:26:20,943 --> 01:26:22,545 having done this whole thing. 1524 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,749 I think we are on that path to redemption. 1525 01:26:26,749 --> 01:26:28,016 It's been a healing process. 1526 01:26:28,016 --> 01:26:31,454 But it's not going to all of a sudden "oh we did ten shows or 1527 01:26:31,454 --> 01:26:34,357 nine shows, everything is better guys, everything is good." 1528 01:26:35,358 --> 01:26:37,426 We're brothers though right? 1529 01:26:39,695 --> 01:26:41,430 I can still be pissed about what they did. 1530 01:26:43,366 --> 01:26:47,202 But I don't judge the men now by what the boys did in the past. 1531 01:26:48,937 --> 01:26:51,507 I know there's been some gripes, and despite our 1532 01:26:51,507 --> 01:26:55,244 differences, I really have a lot of respect for Jesse. 1533 01:26:55,244 --> 01:26:58,814 I think he's a really good dude, and I definitely can recognize 1534 01:26:58,814 --> 01:27:02,318 from where I'm standing now what conflicts were there and what 1535 01:27:02,318 --> 01:27:05,788 differences we both have as our personalities. 1536 01:27:05,788 --> 01:27:08,391 The things that sort of caused problems with the band 1537 01:27:08,391 --> 01:27:10,393 are also the things that are good about Jesse. 1538 01:27:10,393 --> 01:27:15,631 He's a really principled guy, and he really sticks to his guns 1539 01:27:15,631 --> 01:27:19,001 on a lot of things and that's cool because 1540 01:27:19,001 --> 01:27:22,805 the things that he values are usually on point. 1541 01:27:23,939 --> 01:27:27,543 He really values friendship, and he's all about doing the 1542 01:27:27,543 --> 01:27:31,680 right thing, and he sticks to that once he's decided 1543 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,716 what the right thing is. 1544 01:27:35,651 --> 01:27:38,821 I wish I was more like that, and I admire him for that. 1545 01:27:38,821 --> 01:27:40,723 At the same time, that's some of the stuff that was frustrating 1546 01:27:40,723 --> 01:27:42,891 for us when we were doing the band before, because he would 1547 01:27:42,891 --> 01:27:45,761 stick to his guns so much. I would too to an extent, 1548 01:27:45,761 --> 01:27:48,697 but I can appreciate it a lot more now. 1549 01:27:52,067 --> 01:27:55,704 It would be amazing if after Toronto we could go out 1550 01:27:55,704 --> 01:27:59,575 back behind the Opera House and air our grievances and talk and 1551 01:27:59,575 --> 01:28:03,011 everyone ends with a big hug and everything is okay. 1552 01:28:04,112 --> 01:28:06,081 I don't know if that's how it'll be. 1553 01:28:06,081 --> 01:28:10,986 But we've taken some really large steps to becoming friends 1554 01:28:10,986 --> 01:28:14,557 again, to healing what happened. 1555 01:28:14,890 --> 01:28:16,058 I love you, brother. 1556 01:28:16,058 --> 01:28:19,495 I do wish that I was more mature back then and we 1557 01:28:19,495 --> 01:28:21,597 could have worked those things out in a better way. 1558 01:28:21,597 --> 01:28:26,735 But I also believe that our time as that group of guys 1559 01:28:26,735 --> 01:28:30,506 had to end. And I feel good about where it's at now. 1560 01:28:32,941 --> 01:28:35,844 - What's up? - Just waiting on Jesse. 1561 01:28:37,646 --> 01:28:38,814 One last time. 1562 01:28:38,814 --> 01:28:42,418 Yesterday we got in a cab to go get some food in New York 1563 01:28:42,418 --> 01:28:46,922 and I had a good little heart-to-heart moment with Jesse 1564 01:28:46,922 --> 01:28:51,627 where he was like "I'm really really glad we did this." 1565 01:28:51,627 --> 01:28:55,398 And he even sort of said something along the lines of 1566 01:28:55,398 --> 01:28:58,834 "if we were considering doing more shows like this he would 1567 01:28:58,834 --> 01:29:01,904 be into it, and even if Karl were leaving the band for 1568 01:29:01,904 --> 01:29:04,640 whatever reason he would consider coming back. 1569 01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,744 That puts a lot of things to rest for me about how he feels 1570 01:29:08,744 --> 01:29:12,381 about the band and what we did together. 1571 01:29:12,381 --> 01:29:16,151 And interpersonally between us, if he's willing to do that 1572 01:29:16,151 --> 01:29:22,758 that's basically forgiveness, it's reconciliation. 1573 01:29:25,494 --> 01:29:28,096 Well that's it, we have one song left. 1574 01:29:40,443 --> 01:29:43,111 This might be the last time that us five ever 1575 01:29:43,111 --> 01:29:44,747 play music together again. 1576 01:29:52,087 --> 01:29:53,856 Ryan Morgan, I love you. 1577 01:29:54,990 --> 01:29:56,725 Branden Morgan I love you. 1578 01:29:56,725 --> 01:29:58,661 Kyle Johnson I love you. 1579 01:29:58,661 --> 01:30:00,596 Stuart Ross I love you. 1580 01:30:09,071 --> 01:30:10,439 This whole thing-- 1581 01:30:15,210 --> 01:30:17,613 This whole thing meant the world to me. 1582 01:30:18,914 --> 01:30:22,651 For eight years I dreamt about playing these shows. 1583 01:30:25,087 --> 01:30:27,756 I sure hope this isn't the last time that we do this. 1584 01:30:30,626 --> 01:30:32,561 Thank you for sharing this night with us you guys, 1585 01:30:32,561 --> 01:30:33,962 thank you so much. 1586 01:30:57,185 --> 01:30:59,688 # I've seen it in your eyes 1587 01:31:03,125 --> 01:31:06,161 # Looks like your sneaking and all your lies # 1588 01:31:07,963 --> 01:31:11,867 # They did catch up to you this time # 1589 01:31:13,201 --> 01:31:17,673 # I swear I heard you say 1590 01:31:19,174 --> 01:31:24,647 # Blood is forever Love is forever # 1591 01:31:33,989 --> 01:31:37,526 # I can fool myself all that I want # 1592 01:31:43,966 --> 01:31:47,803 # But I saw the room, I heard your voice, # 1593 01:31:49,171 --> 01:31:52,808 # I saw your eyes 1594 01:31:53,341 --> 01:32:01,784 # The truth will always get the best of you inside or out # 1595 01:32:03,018 --> 01:32:08,657 # It took me two years to find that I wasted # 1596 01:32:08,657 --> 01:32:14,697 # five years of my life 1597 01:32:16,331 --> 01:32:23,939 # Felt the truth within you and I saw red # 1598 01:32:39,788 --> 01:32:45,327 # I guess we are, we are the long goodbye # 1599 01:32:45,327 --> 01:32:49,031 What wasted time 1600 01:32:50,098 --> 01:32:59,174 # I always hoped somehow it never happened to us # 1601 01:33:01,409 --> 01:33:06,615 # But it is something that did 1602 01:33:07,249 --> 01:33:09,952 # That I can't forget 1603 01:33:11,319 --> 01:33:13,255 # And after all of our times 1604 01:33:16,759 --> 01:33:19,762 # You fucking did what you did # 137444

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