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Over 300 thousand people
at the canonisation.
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I am a mystery even to myself.
Padre Pio.
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The Vatican, 2002.
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Isn't rejoicing in
the Cross precisely
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what was so
distinctive of Padre Pio?
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How current
is the spirituality of the cross
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that this humble Capuchin
of our times lived!
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The canonization with the largest
participation ever seen.
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This is the story
of all the false mystics...
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that have fallen into eroticism.
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The biggest scam
in the history of the Church.
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The Mistery of Padre Pio.
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The roots.
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It's here, in Pietrelcina,
where Padre Pio was born.
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It's here, in Pietrelcina,
where Padre Pio grew up
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and spent his teenage years.
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His father, Horacio Forgione,
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would go out to the fields
with a donkey,
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a sheep and a little pig.
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His mother, Peppa,
would cook a dish of polenta.
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He would wolf it down.
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They wouldn't even have any bread.
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The young Francisco divided his time
between home,
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the church and the fields.
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Behind this door,
this giant of saintliness was born.
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Stigmata.
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From the Latin 'stigma',
supernaturally imprinted mark
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on the bodies of some saints
in a state of ecstasy,
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as a symbol of spiritual participation
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to the Passion of Christ.
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It all started when Padre Pio
received the stigmata,
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on 20th September, 1918.
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According to Gemelli, Padre Pio's
stigmata were caused by hysteria.
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When Padre Gemelli
visited Padre Pio, he said
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that it was
a phenomenon of hysteria.
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The wounds he had could not
be explained by science.
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Freud, for example,
spoke of several similar cases.
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It seems that this wasn't the case
at all with Padre Pio's stigmata.
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He was basically
compared to a charlatan.
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In front of Padre Pio, he dared
to say that he was a psychopath
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who self-harmed.
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To say that Father Gemelli
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declared war on Padre Pio
is improper.
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He was a socialist, an atheist,
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who later converted to
the Christian faith.
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He became a doctor and was
well-regarded within the Vatican.
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When he went to Rome,
he wrote his report
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saying that Padre Pio had provoked
the stigmata himself.
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"Padre Pio's stigmata
are false", he said.
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He was considered an authority
in the Catholic world.
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With the case of Padre Pio, Gemelli
became a positivist doctor again,
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who believed that the stigmata
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could not be a real phenomenon.
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Gemelli was a very good friend
of Pope Pius XI.
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This relationship
has also weighed heavily
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in the judgement of the visitors
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and in the declarations
of the Holy Office.
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When Padre Pio died,
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the measures taken by
the Holy Office were still in place.
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The Holy Office denies
any allusion to
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the supernatural in the incidents
attributed to Padre Pio.
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Soul Reader.
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I went to the confessional
where Padre Pio was
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and I knelt down on the prie-dieu
with him sitting opposite me.
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He took me by the hand and said:
"Joey, confess your sins".
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To be honest, I was sad,
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because I wasn't leading
a satisfactory life.
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I was stunned,
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when in perfect English
he said to me:
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"Remember when you were in a bar
with a woman named Barbara?
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Do you remember
the sins you committed?".
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And I insist, in perfect English,
he started telling me
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all the people I had been with,
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the places I had been
and the sins I had committed.
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"Are you repentant?".
And I answered:
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"Yes, I am, Padre Pio".
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Then he granted me absolution.
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My eyes were whirling in my head
and I started to rub them like this.
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My head was throbbing
and I was still rubbing my eyes.
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When suddenly,
my mind cleared totally
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and he placed his stigmatised hand
on my lips.
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I kissed his stigmata
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and he gave me
a light slap on the face.
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"A bit of patience and courage
and you'll be fine", he assured me.
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I took my First Communion
with Padre Pio
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and I have taken confession
with him many times.
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To be honest, he was quite strict.
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I missed Mass one day and later,
in our dialect, he said to me:
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"Boy, you should know that if people
understood the importance of mass,
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we would need the police
outside all the churches.
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Find someone else
to take confession with!"
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And he threw me out
of the confessional.
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Padre Pio was strict with
those penitents whom he could tell
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were only curious or who weren't
repentant for their sins.
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If that was the case
he'd throw you out.
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If you want to be a spiritual child
of Padre Pio,
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you have to really think about it.
It's not easy.
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You could go two or three times,
but he would only grant absolution
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when he could see that
you were completely repentant.
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He could tell when people
were trying to trick him and,
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like the Devil, he would dismiss them,
without giving them importance.
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He was extraordinarily charitable
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and extremely severe with sin,
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with everything that offended Christ.
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He spent many hours
in the confessional.
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In the morning he took confession from
women, and from men in the afternoon.
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He had a charisma. He knew
what was in the heart of everyone,
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regardless of
which language they spoke.
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He was capable of seeing into
the deepest part of the human soul.
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San Giovanni Rotondo
was where the conversions took place.
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And these conversions weren't caused
by a magic wand,
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but by the prayer and suffering
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that Padre Pio offered
the Lord every day.
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He was very sweet and tender
with those who,
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even though they had committed
serious sins,
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were truly repentant.
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He had a predilection
for the most tenacious sinners,
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who initially rejected conversion,
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or who were enemies of the Church,
communists or Masons.
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He lived simply.
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He had a kind nature,
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but if he saw someone
doing something wrong,
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he would tell them off,
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although the penitent
always came back.
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People say that Padre Pio was strict,
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severe,
even a bad person,
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because he would kick you out
without absolving you,
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but people also say
that Padre Pio was sweet.
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I saw Padre Pio every day
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because I was his altar boy.
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He knew the date
of my First Communion.
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The day before, encouraged by my dad,
I went to take confession with him.
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But I had observed, with some fear,
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how he sometimes
threw people out of the confessional.
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I thought: "What if Padre Pio
won't grant me absolution?".
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So sensibly, I went to take confession
with another priest.
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After the penance,
my father came and warned me:
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"Padre Pio is waiting
to take your first confession".
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I went there, hesitant and worried,
because I didn't know what to say.
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I knelt down and Padre Pio asked me:
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"How long since your last confession?"
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I didn't know how to answer.
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He put his hand on my head and said:
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"Then I'll see you tomorrow
at five for your First Communion".
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This man, who basically only had
the confessional as his school,
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wrote some exceptional things.
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Whomever he had in front of him
needed to be set straight.
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With Padre Pio,
confession was a beautiful moment,
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because in the end you experienced
a feeling of liberation
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and lightness that I've never again
felt throughout my whole life.
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The Holy Office condemned Padre Pio
with very serious words,
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urging believers to abstain
from visiting
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and communicating with him.
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While the Holy Office
condemned Padre Pio,
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the world, and Italy in particular,
was going through turbulent times.
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Twins, out in the open.
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Father Gemelli said he had examined
the stigmata in detail,
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which is totally false.
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Gemelli wrote a report
about Padre Pio's stigmata
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without having examined them,
and he was a doctor.
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He basically did it out of obedience
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and abuse of authority,
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insisting that he wanted
to see the stigmata,
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but Padre Pio told him no.
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He didn't show the stigmata to
Father Agostino Gemelli
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because he didn't have
authorisation from the Vatican.
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He didn't just send his report
to the Pope,
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he also encouraged a fight against
Padre Pio because he didn't like him.
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Doctor Romanelli said that
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if you put a finger on his hand,
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one on his palm and one
on the other side, they touched.
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The stigmata are a great gift
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to be able to participate
in the suffering of Christ.
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They entail having
five wounds on the body:
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on the heart, hands and feet.
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The stigma that caused
Padre Pio the most pain
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was on his right shoulder,
where Jesus carried the cross.
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When he died, they discovered that
on that part of his body, Padre Pio
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had a wound
of ten centimetres in diameter.
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It was a call from God
to help Christ
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in the redemption of man
through his own suffering.
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When Padre Pio received the stigmata,
antibiotics didn't exist.
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Despite this, the wounds
that he carried for 50 years
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never ever became infected.
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He walked with difficulty,
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because he did so on bleeding flesh.
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It was inexplicable
that he was continuously losing blood
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and remained alive.
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Padre Pio's whole life
is a miracle of science.
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It was the fact that he didn't
even have scars.
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As a doctor, I can't explain
such a prolonged existence,
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50 years,
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of live stigmas.
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The girls of Milan.
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Two girls from Milan
ran away from home,
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leaving a note for their family.
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Their dream was to meet Padre Pio
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and to take confession
and receive communion from him.
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We were together
in front of the communion altar
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when Padre Pio arrived.
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The girl next to me
was very excited.
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When Padre Pio was about to give her
the communion wafer, he stopped.
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He did the same with the other girl.
He didn't give it to her either.
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The girls broke down in tears
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and one of them
was brave enough to ask him:
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"Padre Pio, why don't you want
to give me communion?".
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He answered: "Obedience
to you parents above all".
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Crying, they ran to the phone
to call their mother:
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"We disobeyed you by coming here.
Forgive us, forgive us".
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They came back the next morning
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and only then would Padre Pio
give them communion.
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This is the case of Lea Padovani,
the famous Italian actress,
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friend of great directors
such as Orson Welles,
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Dino Risi, Vittorio de Sica...
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She came out of her confession
with Padre Pio greatly moved.
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She was a victim of his ability
to read people's consciences.
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In fact, Padre Pio,
without her even opening her mouth,
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told her who she was with
and how she felt about her adultery.
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She went back several more times
to take confession with him
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and she actually became
one of his spiritual daughters.
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The others had fun with Padre Pio
on the terrace or in the garden,
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where they talked about everything:
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politics,
social and religious problems...
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The Convent.
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Padre Pio's days were
very simple and very intense.
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He liked walking around
the convent's garden
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and joking with his brothers.
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Padre Pio was a lot of fun
and very cheerful.
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He loved being
in the company of others.
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He enjoyed telling jokes.
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He had these friends,
who every afternoon...
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One would say: "What shall we do
with these empty bottles?".
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Another would answer:
"Let's toss them onto the terrace".
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"What if we hit a friar who's
walking past on the head?".
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"That's fine, one friar less",
another would comment.
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Padre Pio would get involved
in the joke too.
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He would get up
and look over the railing,
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then turn to the others and say:
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"Father Raffaelle is coming.
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If you throw the bottle now
and hit him on the head,
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poor bottle!".
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He had a cheerful,
joyous personality.
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He loved the plays they put on
at the convent,
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with the participation
of the Third Order.
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Padre Isidoro, a mediocre musician,
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wanted Beniamino Gigli
to sing a song he'd composed:
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the Ave Maria.
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The friars didn't agree
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and Beniamino Gigli,
in order to appease Padre Isidoro,
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finally sang the Ave Maria
during Sunday mass.
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Shortly after, Gigli died.
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While they were having lunch,
Padre Isidoro arrived.
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As soon as he saw him,
Padre Pio joked:
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"Have you seen
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Beniamino Gigli's
autopsy result in the papers?
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Do you know that
in his stomach they found
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Padre Isidoro's Ave Maria?".
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Gemma's gaze.
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The ophthalmologists assured me
that my eyes didn't have pupils
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and that I'd never be able to see.
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I was very happy
to travel to San Giovanni Rotondo
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to take my First Communion.
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When the train arrived in Apulia,
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I started to see.
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"Look, I can see the sea!"
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On hearing me say
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I could see a boat
in the the distance, my grandma
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looked at the see,
trying to find the boat,
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and it was there!
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Once in San Giovanni Rotondo,
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Padre Pio made the sign
of the cross on my eyes.
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When we were back home,
the ophthalmologist examined my eyes
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and said to my grandma:
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"Madam, hasn't anyone ever told you
that this girl has no pupils
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and without them
it's impossible to see?"
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The next thing he did was take
a pen out of his pocket
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and holding up a handkerchief,
he asked me:
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"Little girl,
do you know what this is?"
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"Yes, it's a piece of cloth",
I answered.
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The doctor was amazed.
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Then, surrendering to the evidence,
he added:
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"This girl has no pupils
and you can't see without pupils.
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This is a miracle!"
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The Holy Office again
prohibited believers
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from maintaining even
epistolary contact with Padre Pio,
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and accused Don Luis Orione
of disobedience
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for coming out in defence
of the Capuchin friar.
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One of the figures who defended
Padre Pio in the 20s,
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during the first persecution,
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was Don Luis Orione,
who's also a saint today.
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The big trap.
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This defence led to
numerous problems for Don Orione.
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In fact, it was torture for him.
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He was a saint defending
another saint.
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After a visit to the doctor,
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he was diagnosed with syphilis.
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Despite being an old man,
like Padre Pio, he was accused
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of committing sins with women.
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He was sent away to
a religious house in San Remo,
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where he died stoically.
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Some time later,
a barber from Messina,
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on his death bed,
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asked to take confession
in the presence of two witnesses.
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A member of the congregation
of the Work of Divine Providence
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had bribed the barber.
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What did he do?
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He made a small cut
on the back of Don Orione's neck,
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then he disinfected it
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and finally cleaned it with
a liquid containing syphilitic pus.
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Mother.
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Padre Pio said to him:
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"Your shirt may be white
but your soul is dirty".
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They say that Beniamino Gigli,
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kneeling down before him,
started to cry like a little boy.
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From that moment,
he never abandoned Padre Pio.
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Padre Pio always asked
Beniamino Gigli
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to sing him the song "Mamma".
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And he would start to cry,
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because it reminded him
of his mother.
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While Beniamino Gigli sang,
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Padre Pio would dry his eyes with
a handkerchief and then leave.
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He was very close to his mother.
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She was to Padre Pio,
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a bit like the Virgin Mary
was to Jesus.
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She was one of the holy women.
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She wanted to kiss
her son's stigmata,
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00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:04,360
but he always said no to her,
saying:
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"It is the son who should
kiss the hands of his mother
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and not the other way around".
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He always told her no,
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but once his mother
grabbed his hands and kissed him.
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00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,200
You'd think a mother would rejoice
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00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,160
in having a saintly son,
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but not her.
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She was a humble mother,
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a mother whose presence
was not obvious,
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00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,440
but who was
the mother of us all.
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In San Giovanni Rotondo,
she was Aunt Giuseppa to everyone.
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The mother was sick
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and she came to
the New Year's Eve function.
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It was freezing cold
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and she came dressed for summer.
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00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:08,000
She went outside
and caught pneumonia.
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00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:10,200
She died from it.
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00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,280
When someone said to him:
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"Padre, you are a religious person
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and you must accept it",
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Padre Pio roared:
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"It is my mother who has died
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00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,720
and I have to express my feelings!
That's why I'm crying!"
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00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,560
And of course he cried.
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00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,800
With good reason he insisted:
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"My mother! My mother has died!"
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00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,880
In the face of world fame
and fascination
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with this humble franciscan,
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00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,800
the Holy Office insists that
nobody have contact with Padre Pio.
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00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,360
Algerian War.
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00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:13,840
One day, in Algeria, I received
a postcard with only two lines:
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"Life is a fight,
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00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080
but one that leads you
to the light".
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00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,520
Rebirth.
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00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,480
One afternoon,
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00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,720
a commando from the Algerian
National Liberation Front
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attacked our camp
and I was taken prisoner.
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00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,760
They stood me in front of a door
with another five soldiers
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00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,600
and they shot us all.
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00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,680
Immediately I had
an out of body experience.
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00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:58,160
I could see my bleeding body
lying next to my fellow soldiers,
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00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,200
also murdered.
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00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,880
And suddenly I started
rising up through a tunnel.
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I saw Mary, amazingly beautiful
with her robes of light.
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00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,760
And she welcomed me
with a heavenly smile,
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00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,960
as she hugged and kissed me.
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00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,640
Behind her stood Jesus,
and then, suddenly,
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00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,920
I sunk my nose into the dust,
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00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,400
back on earth
with my fellow soldiers,
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who really had died.
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00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:35,000
I saw that the door had been
riddled with bullets,
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00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,320
just as my body had been,
382
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,680
because my uniform had holes in it,
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00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,520
both front and back.
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00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,360
I took my jacket off
and went to see my captain,
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00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,880
who on seeing me shouted:
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00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,240
"You're a miracle!"
387
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,640
When the war ended, I saw Padre Pio
in the hall at San Francisco
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00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,720
and he, as usual, waved at me
and said only this:
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00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:08,280
"Oh, my son!
How you made me suffer!
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00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,480
But what you saw was so beautiful!"
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00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,120
The popular uprising.
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00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,360
What happened?
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00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,800
When the inhabitants
of San Giovanni Rotondo
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00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,080
heard that Padre Pio
was being forced to leave,
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00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,120
a riot broke out.
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00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,440
Two thousand people gathered
outside the convent,
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00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,080
including the authorities,
the police and the mayor,
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00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,560
to stop them from taking
Padre Pio away.
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00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,280
He went down to the square
with the convent superior,
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00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,240
they talked and debated,
401
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,920
but the authorities and the people
never backed down.
402
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,640
Then, very slowly,
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00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,000
Padre Pio and the superior
walked back
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00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,400
to the little door that was
the entrance to the convent.
405
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,480
Once there,
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00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,760
they entered the door and closed it.
407
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,840
I wish they hadn't done that,
408
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,960
because the people got hold of
a tree trunk
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00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,640
and broke the door down.
410
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,080
In this letter
to Francesco Morcaldi,
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00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,600
the mayor of San Giovanni Rotondo,
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00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,560
Padre Pio voices his concerns
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00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,040
over reprisals
414
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,800
against the citizens
who opposed his being moved
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00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,480
and says he prays for them.
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00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760
This is the creature
that Providence,
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00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,600
with your help, has created.
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00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,840
Here she is.
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00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,720
Admire her and bless her
along with my Lord, our Father.
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00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,920
A seed has been sown in the earth
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00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,480
and with His love it shall grow.
422
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,000
Do not deny us your help.
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00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,000
Join us in our mission to relieve
human suffering.
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00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,520
I arrived in San Giovanni Rotondo
after Padre Pio called me,
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00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:49,200
on 23rd September, 1955,
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00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,280
six months before,
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00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,320
to prepare the inauguration
of the Home to Relieve Suffering
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00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,720
in 1956.
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00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,840
Relief House
5 May 1956
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00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,920
When the day
of the inauguration came,
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00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,400
on 5th of May,1956,
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00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,120
I was four and my father
took me and my sister.
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00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,960
There was a real party atmosphere,
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00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,120
especially when Padre Pio
came by in his car
435
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,720
and everyone cheered and clapped.
436
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,840
When Padre Pio came up with the idea
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00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,200
for a hospital in
San Giovanni Rotondo,
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00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,040
near the convent,
439
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,680
it wasn't considered feasible.
440
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,560
It was only able to be built
thanks to the Providence plan.
441
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,040
Imagine a big hospital
in the mountains.
442
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,680
It seemed simply crazy
443
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,760
and I think that
Barbara Ward thought the same:
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00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,440
"I've ended up
surrounded by crazy people".
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00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:31,120
The journalist.
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00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,120
Journalist Barbara Ward,
from The Economist magazine,
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00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,840
came to San Giovanni Rotondo
448
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,560
because she wanted to meet
Padre Pio.
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00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,960
She wanted to ask
for his intercession
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00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,760
in her boyfriend's conversion,
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00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,720
as she wanted to be married
according to the Catholic tradition.
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00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,880
Padre Pio answered simply:
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00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,960
"If it is God's wish, even now".
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00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,080
Her boyfriend, Captain Jackson,
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00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,400
was responsible for the post-war
reconstruction funds
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00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,840
provided by the United Nations,
who had added to the Marshall Plan
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00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,000
a grants project through the UNRRA.
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00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,480
Her boyfriend immediately said that
he wished to be baptised as Catholic
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00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,840
to make his girlfriend happy
and marry in the Catholic Church.
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00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,480
The baptism took place
461
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:42,400
on the same day
Barbara Ward met Padre Pio.
462
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,720
And as Padre Pio said:
"If it is God's wish, even now".
463
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:52,680
Barbara Ward, through her boyfriend,
managed to convince the organisation
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00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,000
of the need to help build
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00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,800
a large hospital in southern Italy.
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00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,080
"The Engineer"
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00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,880
They called him "the engineer",
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00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,160
although later it was known
that he wasn't an engineer.
469
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,560
Even the Court of Foggia
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00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,120
tried him for building a hospital
without having a degree.
471
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,000
This helps us understand that
behind it all was the Providence.
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00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,400
Gestapo prisoner.
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00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,720
The young Karol Wojtyla
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00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,040
was a student
in the academic world of Rome.
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00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,560
He was well aware of Padre Pio's
depth and spiritual gifts.
476
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:12,240
Actually, he went to see him
in San Giovanni Rotondo,
477
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,880
prayed with him and maintained
correspondence with him.
478
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,920
This knowledge of Karol Wojtyla's
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00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,320
led him to ask for Padre Pio's
intercession for a friend of his,
480
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,480
the doctor Wanda Poltaska,
481
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,120
tortured by the nazis and later
declared terminally ill by doctors
482
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,880
due to cancer.
483
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,880
Padre Pio said:
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00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,560
"This we cannot refuse".
485
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,280
A second letter from
Wojtyla confirmed
486
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,040
Wanda's inexplicable recovery.
487
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,600
Padre Pio, herald of the Lord?
488
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,840
To say so is blasphemy
to the Holy Office,
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00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:04,680
who prohibits the publication
of Alberto del Fante's book
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00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,720
in which he is proclaimed as such.
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00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,480
The "Banker of God"
492
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,720
This is the story of
the banker Giuffrè,
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00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,280
also called "God's Banker",
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00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,160
a banker who lent a lot of money,
with very high interest rates,
495
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,800
to religious organisations
496
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,240
in the 50s and 60s.
497
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,840
Then there was a huge vocational
"boom"
498
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,600
and many religious orders
and dioceses built seminaries
499
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:41,520
and expensive buildings
linked to him.
500
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:45,400
Many went to this money lender
501
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,680
in order to pay the costs
of these large building projects.
502
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,360
Padre Pio didn't want
anything to do with it
503
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,880
and he advised his provincial
superiors against it as well.
504
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,000
In this letter
from Padre Teófilo da Pozzo,
505
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:02,720
a Tuscan provincial superior,
to Giuffrè,
506
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,320
dated 25th November, 1958,
507
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,680
we can see the relationship between
the Capuchins and "God's banker".
508
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,560
In the same letter is the news
509
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,200
that doctor Baccalà
has died of a heart attack
510
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,160
after losing all his savings,
totalling 3.7 million lira.
511
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,400
It was a great story:
the bankruptcy of the Vatican.
512
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,840
The Giufrè case,
513
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,800
when they came here
to get money from Padre Pio.
514
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,800
Giuffrè owes in total
515
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,160
more than 3695 million lira
516
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,480
in interest to his clients.
517
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,480
Bankruptcy was declared
518
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,920
and our superiors
wanted Padre Pio
519
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:03,280
to help the province
by diverting money
520
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,080
from the Home to Relieve Suffering
521
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,880
to pay off the debts incurred
with this banker.
522
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,200
Padre Pio obviously said no
523
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,080
and this brought him
a lot of problems.
524
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,480
Giuffrè's debt is calculated
at more than 21 billion lira.
525
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,480
As far as I know, Padre Pio
wanted, from the start, to entrust
526
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,480
the running of
the Home to Relieve Suffering
527
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,120
to the Secular Franciscan Order.
528
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,400
Evidently, the second time around,
529
00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:46,920
he decided to put the Order
of the Capuchins in charge,
530
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,080
but its general minister refused,
531
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,800
saying the running of a hospital
was not part
532
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,880
of their duties.
533
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,320
Finally,
Padre Pio decided to entrust
534
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,160
the Home to Relieve Suffering
to the Holy See.
535
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,160
From this person I have received
536
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,360
the amount of 300.000 lira
537
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,880
to be administered by Giuffrè.
538
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,320
The perception.
539
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,720
Initially, John XXIII
thought highly of Padre Pio.
540
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:57,640
He knew, probably because
he had been informed,
541
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,000
about the conversions
that took place here
542
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,640
and that pleased him tremendously.
543
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,760
It seems one of his sisters
544
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,560
was also with Padre Pio
in San Giovanni Rotondo.
545
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,240
Why did he change his opinion?
546
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,720
Probably because
he was surrounded
547
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,040
by people who didn't respect
Padre Pio.
548
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,400
He defended his friends,
549
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,440
like the Bishop of Manfredonia,
550
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,200
the Cardinal of Florence,
the Cardinal of Padua...
551
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,360
And they were all against Padre Pio.
552
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,200
Just like, if I'm not mistaken,
the case of monsignor Maccari.
553
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,560
Evidently, they all influenced
his thoughts negatively.
554
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,600
John XXIII never doubted
the accusations
555
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,280
that monsignor Maccari presented.
556
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,200
In this letter from judge
Giovanni Alberto Alessandri
557
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,200
to Pope John XXIII,
dated 20th September, 1960,
558
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,560
the magistrate warns the Holy Father
559
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,480
of the apostolic visit
of monsignor Carlo Maccari,
560
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,360
saying the rules regarding this type
of mission were being violated,
561
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,720
and he warns that his presence will
only serve to defame Padre Pio
562
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,720
for a long time.
563
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:30,320
It wasn't the figure of Padre Pio
that worried Maccari,
564
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,280
but rather the atmosphere
that had been created.
565
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:37,560
But that image of the village,
of the country life,
566
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,960
wasn't liked by the the intellectual
elite of the papal Curia.
567
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,440
I have met people
568
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,080
who were linked to Padre Pio
in an improper way,
569
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,800
especially those known as
the "pious women".
570
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,160
The historian Sergio Luzzato
571
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:01,040
had access
to Pope Roncalli's Archives.
572
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,560
In fact, in a note from
30th January, 1960,
573
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,600
the Pope wrote that
he was very worried
574
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:16,680
about the circle of women
around Padre Pio,
575
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,120
namely Olga Lecci, Tina Belloni
and Cleonice Morcaldi.
576
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,640
They accused him of having
sexual relationships
577
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,360
with some of his
spiritual daughters.
578
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,640
I feel sorry for Padre Pio:
579
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,280
his soul must be saved
and I pray for him intensely
580
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:42,840
Archives of John XXIII
581
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,280
The Friendly Pope.
582
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,240
Paul VI spoke to him many times
583
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,960
or informed him of what
was going on inside the Church.
584
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,200
The Pope wrote to
Padre Pio and trusted him.
585
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,200
He knew how much
Padre Pio was suffering
586
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,920
and the situation of the Church
587
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,720
in those most painful moments
of his papacy.
588
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,800
Letter from the future Paul VI
to Padre Pio,
589
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:33,920
dated 20th June, 1960,
590
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,280
congratulating him
on his 50 years of priesthood
591
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,120
and asking him to pray for him.
592
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,200
Temple of prayer and science.
593
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:52,880
Padre Pio predicted
my work and dedication
594
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,360
to this hospital.
595
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,840
So I said to him:
596
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,000
"Padre, I want to be a nun,
597
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,800
but my mother
and father say I can't".
598
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,760
And he replied: "You a nun?
What are you talking about?
599
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,920
Go and study.
600
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:12,240
One day you will be
the mother of many children".
601
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:17,200
The hospital Home to Relieve
Suffering is, without doubt,
602
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,200
the manifestation of
Padre Pio's holiness.
603
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,200
Because the Home, as he put it,
604
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,440
is a place of prayer and science.
605
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,480
He specified:
"Temple of prayer and science".
606
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:35,000
The motive for setting up
the prayer groups
607
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,040
was as an answer to
Pious XII's appeal.
608
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:43,880
During the years of
the Second World War,
609
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,000
the Pope appealed
universally for the Church to pray.
610
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:51,760
Padre Pio heard this command
and said:
611
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,640
"We must be the first
to answer the Pope's call".
612
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,960
I was a bit angry then,
613
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,240
but after, when I grew up,
614
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,600
I understood what it meant
to be in the service of Padre Pio.
615
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,360
Because now I'm here,
doing his work.
616
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,800
I see the figure of a doctor
617
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,400
as the person wearing
the stethoscope,
618
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,760
because that serves
to cure the patient.
619
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,480
But, above all,
I think that Padre Pio
620
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,000
would never have wanted us
to lose sight of prayer
621
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,720
through the Rosary.
622
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,240
Because if the sick person
was Jesus,
623
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,840
and the poor, sick person
was Jesus times two,
624
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:14,680
the sick children, for Padre Pio,
must have been the Holy Trinity.
625
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,200
I went to take confession
with Padre Pio and he said:
626
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,840
"My child, you have to
work in my Home".
627
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,960
I took a nursing course.
628
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,000
The night before the exams,
at four in the morning,
629
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,080
he came to me in my dreams
to help me.
630
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,320
"Don't worry, revise
abdominal typhus", he told me.
631
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,480
The next morning,
I walked into the exam room
632
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,080
and the provincial director said:
633
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,280
"Miss, tell me about
abdominal typhus".
634
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,760
I aced the exam!
635
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,480
The Last Mass
22 September 1968
636
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,920
In the last months
before Padre Pio's death,
637
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,640
some of the brothers noticed
638
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:17,840
that for months
there had been no sign
639
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,600
of the stigmata on his feet.
640
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:25,080
He was aware that the stigmata
were disappearing
641
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,120
for months before his death.
642
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,680
While on his hands,
643
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,760
the last crust of blood
fell off shortly before his death,
644
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,240
in the cell where Padre Pio died.
645
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:08,440
He had the stigmata
when he almost fell,
646
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:15,680
because it was documented
by the photographer Elia Stelluto.
647
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,840
There are still photos which show
648
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,440
that Padre Pio still had them.
649
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,680
After his death,
the stigmata disappeared.
650
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,560
The last morning?
651
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,720
Padre Pio,
when he stood up after Mass,
652
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,560
almost fell as we walked
down the stairs.
653
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,120
I was already on the first step,
because I was ahead of him.
654
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,400
Friar Pio Martino was behind
655
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:41,720
and saw Padre Pio stumble.
656
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:45,320
He grabbed him by the waist
to stabilise him.
657
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,400
I turned around and
placed my shoulder next to his.
658
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,480
And then I shouted: "The wheelchair!
The wheelchair!
659
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,560
I'll be right back
with the wheelchair!"
660
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,320
I was in the sacristy.
661
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,320
They sat Padre Pio in the chair
and we took him to the sacristy.
662
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,880
While we were taking him there,
he repeated:
663
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,080
"My children, my children".
664
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,040
It was practically a whisper:
"Oh my God, oh my God".
665
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,280
was also where Padre Pio
666
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,360
This small, internal chapel
667
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,160
celebrated the Eucharist
in total privacy
668
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,320
during the years of segregation.
669
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,120
The mysterious hand.
670
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,600
Ali Agca declared
before the judge Ilario Martella
671
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:07,000
that there was a second nun
who grabbed him by the arm
672
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,280
to prevent him from continuing
to shoot at John Paul II.
673
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,160
Only the hitman managed
to see this nun
674
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,640
and her name is sister Rita
of the Holy Spirit,
675
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,080
spiritual daughter of Padre Pio.
676
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:44,120
In this letter, monsignor Gagliardi,
archbishop of Manfredonia, declares:
677
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,840
"We should neither feel guilty
678
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,080
nor try to avoid the gossip
surrounding Padre Pio".
679
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,960
The problem started when I had
some blood tests done.
680
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,760
I was given two months to live.
681
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,120
I did a whole cycle of chemotherapy.
682
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,880
Pray, have faith and wait.
683
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,840
When I was in hospital,
684
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,280
I always had Padre Pio's heirlooms
with me, given to me by the friars
685
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,280
during my intensive therapy.
686
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:28,480
I prayed and prayed to him.
I always prayed to Padre Pio
687
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:31,800
and he gave me strength.
He never abandoned me
688
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,880
and I felt protected by him.
689
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,880
Padre Pio would always say,
690
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,960
that he would make
more noise alive than dead.
691
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,760
And it's true. I was close to death
yet here I still am on Earth.
692
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:54,480
The funeral
26 September 1968
693
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,520
"Padre Pio is sick!
Padre Pio is sick! Run, run!"
694
00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:23,800
And I was on my way to
Padre Pio's cell,
695
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,880
when I heard doctor Sala say:
696
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,160
"We're going to lose
Padre Pio tonight!
697
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:33,480
We're going to lose
Padre Pio tonight!"
698
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,760
I asked: "Father superior,
shell I fetch the holy oil?"
699
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,400
"Run, run, my son!",
he told me hurriedly.
700
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,000
I gave him absolution
sub conditione,
701
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:58,360
used when the sick person
can no longer speak.
702
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,920
I began to anoint his eyes,
nose and mouth.
703
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,360
I tried to hurry so as
to finish quickly,
704
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,080
as I heard doctor Sala say:
705
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,720
"We're going to lose
Padre Pio tonight!"
706
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,160
Padre Pio didn't say a single word.
707
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:29,240
Perhaps he quietly mumbled:
"Jesus, Mary. Jesus, Mary".
708
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,960
At two thirty he died.
709
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,560
When he died,
710
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,120
many of us thought the era
of Padre Pio had ended.
711
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,640
That he would
not be spoken of again.
712
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,640
People slowly started leaving
San Giovanni Rotondo.
713
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,560
The shelters
and the hospital remained,
714
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,720
and were reorganised,
715
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,200
until finally the
Home to Relieve Suffering
716
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,360
was put up for sale,
717
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,360
as they were unable
to keep it afloat.
718
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,280
Padre Pio's story
was coming to an end.
719
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,560
I feel defeated,
but I give thanks to God.
720
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,280
Today I should feel
completely destroyed,
721
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,560
but thanks to God
I have overcome it.
722
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,400
I pray that God sanctifies them.
723
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,920
Open grave
2 March 2008
724
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,080
there was a huge
amount of expectation.
725
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,600
When his body was exhumed,
726
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,120
There was a huge
amount of expectation.
727
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,640
We wondered what state
Padre Pio's body would be in.
728
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:15,400
I was there when
they opened the coffin
729
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,000
and I also took part
in the work to preserve
730
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,960
Padre Pio's mortal remains.
731
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:41,680
You could recognise him
by his abundant beard.
732
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:46,720
Obviously, the physiognomical
features of his face
733
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,400
had been altered
and he appeared gaunt.
734
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:56,120
His skin was stretched
tight over his cranium.
735
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:01,800
But the Padre Capuchin's
general features were recognisable.
736
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,480
Padre Pio's body,
737
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:29,200
as it has been preserved
in the glass coffin,
738
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:34,560
wears a mask that covers his face
739
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,800
as well as his copious beard,
740
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:44,720
which was still present
on the saint's body.
741
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:55,560
He went through
a process of transformation
742
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,640
known in medical terms
as "corification",
743
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,080
which is when the tissues
have dried out
744
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,080
and have taken on
a brownish, blackish colour.
745
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,720
The miracle of canonization.
746
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,280
I didn't feel well.
747
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,040
I told my mother
that I didn't want to go to school,
748
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,920
but she made me, because
at that time I didn't like school.
749
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,880
But, that night, when my mother
came to say goodnight,
750
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,600
I didn't recognise her, and so
I was immediately taken to hospital.
751
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:36,600
Matteo's heart stopped
for almost an hour.
752
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,120
Nine of his organs were affected.
753
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,360
He was in a very serious condition
754
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,800
and for the doctors, there was
no chance of recuperation.
755
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,640
During the coma, in my dreams
I saw Padre Pio on my right
756
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,560
and three angels on my left.
757
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,560
One had golden wings
and was wearing a white tunic.
758
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,000
The other two had white wings
and red tunics.
759
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:13,560
Padre Pio told me not to worry,
because I would soon be cured.
760
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:21,440
During Matteo's suffering
and his coma,
761
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,840
which lasted eleven, long days,
762
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,840
I prayed for Padre Pio to intervene,
so that what happened to Lazarus
763
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,920
would also happen to my son:
a resurrection.
764
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:39,080
I was with friar Modestino,
who insisted:
765
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,440
"I offer my life for Matteo,
766
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:47,200
do not be scared,
pray, have faith,
767
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,720
because Padre Pio needs a miracle
768
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,560
to become a saint
and this could be it".
769
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,880
Matteo's recovery was
770
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,520
something exceptional for us,
the doctors.
771
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,200
The boy
772
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:18,560
had gone from having a high fever
773
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,200
to having septic shock,
with multiple organ failure
774
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,680
and a prolonged cardiac arrest.
775
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:34,040
Among us, the doctors,
word had already spread
776
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,040
that Matteo had died.
777
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,160
Padre Pio is like a
grandfather to me.
778
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,840
Someone to talk to
779
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,760
about specific problems.
780
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,320
Matteo's illness
and then miracle were
781
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,880
two extremely intense experiences,
782
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,720
that have inevitably
changed our lives forever.
783
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,480
I've always believed that
I was given a second chance
784
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,760
for which
I should be eternally grateful.
785
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,680
When I speak to a non-believer,
I say:
786
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,600
"I'm here.
787
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,880
It's something inexplicable
for science,
788
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,400
but there's another explanation
that we are unable to comprehend".
789
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,960
The privileged relationship
with the highest offices
790
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,880
will serve to destroy Padre Pio.
791
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:53,520
The conspiracy.
792
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,400
They set up microphones,
793
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,640
not only
in Padre's Pio's confessional,
794
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:58,480
but also in his cell.
795
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:00,680
It was the microphone in his cell.
796
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,360
Friar Giustino da Lecce
797
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,360
in a letter sent
on November 1961, confesses
798
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,280
his participation in the conspiracy
against Padre Pio.
799
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,640
"Friar Bonaventura da Pavullo",
writes,
800
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,320
"I was aware Padre Pio
was being listened to
801
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,800
and I convinced myself
to keep doing so".
802
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,800
The microphone had to be attached
803
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,840
with string and then
the recorder set up,
804
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,480
and this could only
be done in Padre Pio's cell.
805
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,640
"I installed the microphones
with the permission of my superiors,
806
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,920
although I realise
it was the wrong thing to do".
807
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,000
The cells were all next
to one another:
808
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,880
one, two, three, four and five.
So, the last two cells.
809
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,920
"I am aware that the blame
can fall solely on my shoulders
810
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,720
and not on the Order".
811
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,280
Padre Giustino says
he did it out of obedience.
812
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:33,720
He had to find out
Padre Pio's secrets,
813
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,800
those related to both women and men.
814
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,640
That's why microphones were set up
in the confessional and the cell.
815
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:46,800
"On other occasions,
816
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,960
when Padre Pio had slept
at the clinic,
817
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,360
it was said that other women
818
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,920
had been given permission
to spend the night with him".
819
01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:03,800
Microphones were set up in the guest
quarters,
820
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,240
where the women were received,
821
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:09,040
and in cell number 5,
where his collaborators
822
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,120
in the building and management
of his Home could be found.
823
01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:23,000
Monsignor Gagliardi,
archbishop of Manfredonia,
824
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,680
was defamatory about Padre Pio.
825
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:34,640
Monsignor Gagliardi accused
Padre Pio of having a lover,
826
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,000
but it wasn't true.
He was the one who had a lover.
827
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:45,720
Once he found a microphone
under his bed
828
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,200
and he got rid of it.
829
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:56,480
Padre Pio cut the microphone wire
with this knife,
830
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,200
as was published
by the newspaper Il Tempo
831
01:09:59,480 --> 01:10:03,000
on 28th December, 1963.
832
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,400
Padre Pio was persecuted.
833
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,400
He was always shut away,
just like a prisoner in jail.
834
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,480
Padre Pio never defended himself.
835
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,680
He never reproached
or accused anyone.
836
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,080
He always left his fate
in the hands of God.
837
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,400
Friars who didn't want him around
838
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:36,000
invented whatever story they could
to obtain their goal,
839
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,880
which was to make
his life unbearable.
840
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,200
Padre Pio was forced
to sign a letter
841
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:51,120
in which he declared
that he had never been persecuted
842
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,600
by the Holy See.
843
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,960
"I enjoy freedom in my work
844
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,640
and I have neither enemies,
nor persecutors",
845
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:05,560
wrote Padre Pio
on 16th December, 1964.
846
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,160
His whole life
he was persecuted in this house.
847
01:11:27,480 --> 01:11:31,040
Practically all the people
848
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,560
who made Padre Pio's life
impossible have repented.
849
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,120
Repent.
850
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,600
He was sorry and prayed for them.
851
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,920
He asked the Lord to give him
the strength to convert them.
852
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:46,480
Maccari's declarations rehabilitated
Padre Pio before his death.
853
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,160
One of these people
is father Agostino Gemelli.
854
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:01,480
In fact, as those close to Padre Pio
and his personal doctor,
855
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,720
Giuseppe Sala, have confirmed,
856
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,600
Agostino Gemelli
apologised to Padre Pio
857
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,920
before taking confession with him.
858
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:17,120
Monsignor Gagliardi had time
to reconsider
859
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,080
when he concluded
his time as bishop.
860
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,200
Padre Pio wrote to him
861
01:12:23,480 --> 01:12:27,280
and he answered when he was back
in Matera, his home town.
862
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:29,600
Padre Pio used to say:
863
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,600
"I was born in the Church
864
01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:36,560
and I wish to die in the Church".
865
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,440
I have mistreated and damaged you.
866
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,640
I will do more dead than alive.
Padre Pio.
65567
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