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What was the phenomenon that it became international? 14 00:00:59,941 --> 00:01:02,150 People flew in from over the world just to go there. 15 00:01:02,191 --> 00:01:04,691 What made it such a... 16 00:01:04,733 --> 00:01:06,525 I don't know. I, uh... You know, 17 00:01:06,566 --> 00:01:09,483 in a club it's all about capturing a moment. 18 00:01:11,983 --> 00:01:14,858 When you walked through those blacked-out doors, 19 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:16,650 you were in another world. 20 00:01:24,775 --> 00:01:27,025 Anyone that was allowed in, 21 00:01:27,066 --> 00:01:29,483 uh, was totally free inside. 22 00:01:41,191 --> 00:01:44,525 Steve and I had no idea what it would really mean, 23 00:01:44,566 --> 00:01:47,983 or that it would last only 33 months. 24 00:01:48,025 --> 00:01:51,775 Just captured everybody's imagination. 25 00:01:56,441 --> 00:01:59,276 You could be next to Elizabeth Taylor 26 00:01:59,318 --> 00:02:01,816 or, uh, just about anybody, 27 00:02:01,858 --> 00:02:06,150 uh, and feel wonderful and good about yourself. 28 00:02:14,816 --> 00:02:16,400 I love the nightlife, 29 00:02:16,441 --> 00:02:18,775 and I love seeing people have fun nights. 30 00:02:18,816 --> 00:02:20,233 There's nothing that makes me happier 31 00:02:20,276 --> 00:02:22,733 than to see the people having a good time. 32 00:02:22,775 --> 00:02:25,318 Everybody that was there was a star. 33 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,525 Thanks. That makes me feel great. 34 00:02:27,566 --> 00:02:29,233 It does, because so much bad 35 00:02:29,276 --> 00:02:31,608 came out of it, you know, for Ian and I 36 00:02:31,650 --> 00:02:32,941 that it's good to think 37 00:02:32,983 --> 00:02:34,525 some people think of it like that. 38 00:02:37,066 --> 00:02:40,108 The owners of Studio 54, Ian Schrager and Steven Rubell... 39 00:02:40,150 --> 00:02:42,400 Two dozen agents raided the chic disco this morning. 40 00:02:42,441 --> 00:02:45,441 It's up to ten years in prison. 41 00:02:45,483 --> 00:02:47,441 What was your reaction when you learned 42 00:02:47,483 --> 00:02:50,400 that your partner had been arrested? 43 00:03:08,816 --> 00:03:11,775 -I just go? - Uh, yeah, try that. 44 00:03:11,816 --> 00:03:14,441 Well, um, 45 00:03:14,483 --> 00:03:17,775 you know, I was wondering to myself why, 46 00:03:17,816 --> 00:03:20,483 after almost 40 years, you know, 47 00:03:20,525 --> 00:03:23,775 I would finally feel okay to talk about Studio, 48 00:03:23,816 --> 00:03:26,983 'cause I hadn't talked about it, you know, at all. 49 00:03:35,525 --> 00:03:38,360 Now I'm at a point in my life 50 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,276 that it doesn't sting as much 51 00:03:41,318 --> 00:03:44,650 after all this time the way it used to sting. 52 00:03:47,483 --> 00:03:48,941 There's only two people 53 00:03:48,983 --> 00:03:50,483 that could've told this story... 54 00:03:50,525 --> 00:03:54,233 Steve and I. 55 00:03:54,276 --> 00:03:56,400 That's why I'm happy 56 00:03:56,441 --> 00:03:59,233 to finally tell the story as it really happened. 57 00:04:01,900 --> 00:04:02,900 All right. 58 00:04:04,733 --> 00:04:08,360 You haven't seen the book in a few weeks, 59 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,900 so we should look at everything, 60 00:04:09,941 --> 00:04:12,276 and I have to ask you a couple questions. 61 00:04:17,941 --> 00:04:20,900 I never been in a room 62 00:04:20,941 --> 00:04:22,360 with so many celebrities. 63 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,858 It was like numb. 64 00:04:33,608 --> 00:04:36,441 So we need a picture here. 65 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,941 This one. 66 00:04:49,108 --> 00:04:51,525 My friendship with Steve was always very close, 67 00:04:51,566 --> 00:04:54,233 almost from the moment we met. 68 00:04:55,816 --> 00:04:58,483 We met in college. 69 00:04:58,525 --> 00:05:00,983 We both came from Brooklyn, 70 00:05:01,025 --> 00:05:02,775 middle class, 71 00:05:02,816 --> 00:05:05,276 lower middle-class working families. 72 00:05:05,318 --> 00:05:09,276 Everybody upwardly mobile and ambitious, 73 00:05:09,318 --> 00:05:11,400 and everybody wanted their kids 74 00:05:11,441 --> 00:05:13,858 to do better than they did. 75 00:05:18,191 --> 00:05:20,691 Brooklyn made me hungry. 76 00:05:20,733 --> 00:05:23,941 My father was a tennis pro, and I played tennis, 77 00:05:23,983 --> 00:05:26,276 and I'd visit these estates, and I saw how people live. 78 00:05:26,318 --> 00:05:29,525 And you just see this whole other life. 79 00:05:29,566 --> 00:05:31,360 You were very well aware of the difference 80 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,441 between what they had and what you had. 81 00:05:33,483 --> 00:05:36,150 Somehow tennis expanded the universe, 82 00:05:36,191 --> 00:05:39,858 and you saw that there were other possibilities. 83 00:05:39,900 --> 00:05:42,025 We chose, as much as possible, 84 00:05:42,066 --> 00:05:45,441 to try and pursue those avenues of success. 85 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,066 In college, Ian was very studious. 86 00:05:51,108 --> 00:05:53,025 He wanted to become an attorney. 87 00:05:53,066 --> 00:05:55,566 And Stevie was the social butterfly. 88 00:05:55,608 --> 00:05:59,441 If you wanted to meet a certain girl, you saw Steve Rubell. 89 00:05:59,483 --> 00:06:03,233 If you needed to know what courses to take, 90 00:06:03,276 --> 00:06:04,733 you saw Steve Rubell. 91 00:06:04,775 --> 00:06:09,525 He knew everybody at Syracuse University. 92 00:06:09,566 --> 00:06:12,360 Steve was the most public of people, 93 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,858 but he, in fact, was very private. 94 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:18,858 He was never open about his sexuality 95 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:20,483 and the fact that he was gay. 96 00:06:20,525 --> 00:06:23,066 It wasn't something we talked about. 97 00:06:23,108 --> 00:06:26,025 You know, it didn't matter. 98 00:06:26,066 --> 00:06:30,733 Steve was an extrovert, and, yeah, I am an introvert, 99 00:06:30,775 --> 00:06:35,400 but inside, value-wise, essence-wise, 100 00:06:35,441 --> 00:06:37,441 you know, we were the same. 101 00:06:44,525 --> 00:06:47,150 After we graduated, I got a job as a lawyer, 102 00:06:47,191 --> 00:06:49,941 and then Steve was working on the steak restaurants. 103 00:06:53,858 --> 00:06:58,276 Steve was very interested in doing steak restaurants 104 00:06:58,318 --> 00:07:01,441 in as many places as fast as he could possibly do it. 105 00:07:01,483 --> 00:07:05,108 He had expanded too quickly, and they weren't doing well. 106 00:07:05,150 --> 00:07:07,525 So I acted as his lawyer 107 00:07:07,566 --> 00:07:09,900 and kept the creditors at bay. 108 00:07:11,483 --> 00:07:14,441 That's when Steve and I became partners. 109 00:07:17,941 --> 00:07:21,150 I was the one that wanted to go into the nightclub business 110 00:07:21,191 --> 00:07:25,066 because I smelled that there was a real, you know, opportunity with it. 111 00:07:25,108 --> 00:07:28,650 That ambition, that drive 112 00:07:28,691 --> 00:07:32,360 really forged a real bond between us. 113 00:07:33,816 --> 00:07:38,691 Steve always felt he had something to prove, 114 00:07:38,733 --> 00:07:41,066 as I did. 115 00:07:41,108 --> 00:07:42,441 From the beginning, 116 00:07:42,483 --> 00:07:45,608 they had this intuitive understanding 117 00:07:45,650 --> 00:07:47,150 that they were getting out 118 00:07:47,191 --> 00:07:49,483 and they were gonna do something big together. 119 00:08:08,276 --> 00:08:09,816 The Vietnam War ended, 120 00:08:09,858 --> 00:08:11,191 and Watergate ended, 121 00:08:11,233 --> 00:08:13,066 and everybody, all of a sudden, 122 00:08:13,108 --> 00:08:15,566 was tired of being concerned about outside forces, 123 00:08:15,608 --> 00:08:17,816 and they said, "I want to have some fun." 124 00:08:17,858 --> 00:08:20,360 They were tired of being serious. 125 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,108 So everybody went out and went wild. 126 00:08:35,276 --> 00:08:39,318 We were going out to clubs in Manhattan all the time, 127 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,691 and trying to figure out 128 00:08:40,733 --> 00:08:42,441 what kind of club we wanted to create. 129 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,566 ♪ Makossa ♪ 130 00:08:48,608 --> 00:08:50,650 Gay clubs were some of the first clubs 131 00:08:50,691 --> 00:08:53,276 that had disco music. 132 00:08:53,318 --> 00:08:55,066 But disco was black music, 133 00:08:55,108 --> 00:08:57,691 and it came out of black clubs. 134 00:08:57,733 --> 00:08:59,858 ♪ Makossa ♪ 135 00:08:59,900 --> 00:09:03,483 The beautiful models, the girls would go to the gay clubs 136 00:09:03,525 --> 00:09:06,775 with the gay designers and hairdressers and makeup men, 137 00:09:06,816 --> 00:09:09,733 and then the straight guys would want to meet the models, 138 00:09:09,775 --> 00:09:11,276 so they would go to these clubs, 139 00:09:11,318 --> 00:09:12,733 and it all started blending. 140 00:09:14,566 --> 00:09:16,983 For me, as a New Yorker, 141 00:09:17,025 --> 00:09:20,276 I'm telling you, this was revolutionary. 142 00:09:20,318 --> 00:09:22,025 And it was the first time 143 00:09:22,066 --> 00:09:25,360 that it felt like people were nonjudgmental. 144 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,941 Everybody was fine with everybody else's culture. 145 00:09:29,983 --> 00:09:35,858 At that time, gay clubs were behind closed doors, hidden. 146 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:41,025 It was a little bit like going to a speakeasy in the '20s, I suppose. 147 00:09:41,066 --> 00:09:42,608 It was subversive, 148 00:09:42,650 --> 00:09:44,191 and there was an incredible energy. 149 00:09:53,650 --> 00:09:56,360 We wanted to tap through the loose, 150 00:09:56,441 --> 00:10:01,360 intense, sweaty, dancing fun that was happening there 151 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,691 and take it up a notch... 152 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,483 to create the ultimate nightclub. 153 00:10:08,650 --> 00:10:10,483 Blow everybody away with it. 154 00:10:10,525 --> 00:10:13,191 Dent the universe. Change the world. 155 00:10:13,233 --> 00:10:15,650 ♪ Makossa ♪ 156 00:10:15,691 --> 00:10:19,066 Ian and I walked into this old opera house and theater, 157 00:10:19,108 --> 00:10:20,733 and Ian and I both saw it, 158 00:10:20,775 --> 00:10:22,608 and we both went upstairs and signed the lease. 159 00:10:22,650 --> 00:10:23,900 And some people said we were crazy 160 00:10:23,941 --> 00:10:25,650 'cause we were on 8th Avenue 161 00:10:25,691 --> 00:10:27,691 and 5th and 4th when the West Side was nothing. 162 00:10:27,733 --> 00:10:29,816 In those days, it was not. 163 00:10:32,900 --> 00:10:37,441 And Mayor Beame said he's gonna clean up the streets. 164 00:10:37,483 --> 00:10:39,608 We're still waiting. It's very dirty. 165 00:10:39,650 --> 00:10:41,816 I'm living here many years, when I remember 166 00:10:41,858 --> 00:10:45,025 when it was beautiful, and now it stinks. 167 00:10:45,066 --> 00:10:48,525 54th and 8th wasn't Disneyfied yet. 168 00:10:48,566 --> 00:10:50,608 It was really a very sleazy neighborhood. 169 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:53,150 Perhaps the sleaziest neighborhood in the city... 170 00:10:53,191 --> 00:10:56,066 the West Side and the Theatre District. 171 00:10:56,108 --> 00:10:57,608 If you wanted to get mugged, 172 00:10:57,650 --> 00:10:59,858 that was really a good place to go. 173 00:11:01,483 --> 00:11:03,900 It was amazing that anyone would think of opening up 174 00:11:03,941 --> 00:11:06,566 a discotheque on West 54th Street. 175 00:11:11,608 --> 00:11:14,233 In the '20s, it was built as an opera house. 176 00:11:14,276 --> 00:11:17,733 And then it used to be a CBS television studio. 177 00:11:17,775 --> 00:11:21,025 And there were some really big-time shows that were there. 178 00:11:21,066 --> 00:11:24,233 Time now for everybody's favorite guessing game... 179 00:11:26,566 --> 00:11:30,900 Uh, What's My Line?, Captain Kangaroo, 180 00:11:30,941 --> 00:11:32,691 The $64,000 Question. 181 00:11:32,733 --> 00:11:36,441 I mean, these are big-time television programs. 182 00:11:36,483 --> 00:11:38,318 They had all moved to L.A., 183 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,233 and it sat empty for a long time. 184 00:11:52,066 --> 00:11:56,566 This is around the 40th anniversary of Studio. 185 00:11:56,608 --> 00:11:58,900 It seems like yesterday to me. 186 00:12:00,483 --> 00:12:05,775 Now there's a sloped floor here for the theater, 187 00:12:05,816 --> 00:12:10,318 like there was when we were here 40 years ago. 188 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,858 But, you know, you can't have a sloped floor and have dancing. 189 00:12:13,900 --> 00:12:16,566 So we had to level it off. 190 00:12:16,608 --> 00:12:18,360 And we didn't have enough time 191 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,318 to get a building permit to do it. 192 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,150 We had to just start working on it immediately. 193 00:12:24,191 --> 00:12:26,650 So we said, "Just go ahead and do it." 194 00:12:27,816 --> 00:12:29,441 We had a guy 195 00:12:29,483 --> 00:12:32,900 on a tall ladder with a paintbrush... 196 00:12:32,941 --> 00:12:35,566 Yeah....that was maybe 30 feet long... 197 00:12:35,608 --> 00:12:39,360 Right. Right....and he was painting the ceiling. 198 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,941 And someone kept moving the ladder. 199 00:12:41,983 --> 00:12:45,691 Yeah, I worked 30 hours straight right up to the opening. 200 00:12:45,733 --> 00:12:49,441 Yeah. And it was that kind of unbridled energy, 201 00:12:49,483 --> 00:12:52,566 you know, that got this whole place built in six weeks. 202 00:12:59,816 --> 00:13:01,133 We were competing against 203 00:13:01,295 --> 00:13:04,400 what probably is the best nightclub people in the world, 204 00:13:04,441 --> 00:13:06,983 and wanted to have the best of those clubs. 205 00:13:09,276 --> 00:13:11,983 First, we went to the usual suspects. 206 00:13:12,025 --> 00:13:13,941 They said they couldn't work with us 207 00:13:13,983 --> 00:13:16,360 'cause they were told not to by our competitors. 208 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,733 So, it was out of that problem 209 00:13:19,775 --> 00:13:23,941 that it went to Jules Fisher and Paul Marantz, 210 00:13:23,983 --> 00:13:29,025 Tony award-winning lighting designers. 211 00:13:29,066 --> 00:13:31,318 The theater part was already there, 212 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,608 and we made as much use of it as possible, 213 00:13:33,650 --> 00:13:37,858 which turned out to be a very good idea. 214 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:40,566 And the people we hired to help us were mostly coming from the theater, 215 00:13:40,608 --> 00:13:45,318 'cause this was all at the speed of a theater production. 216 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,108 We were hammering and nailing, we were working there, 217 00:13:48,150 --> 00:13:50,441 we were wiring, we were doing everything... I don't know... 218 00:13:50,483 --> 00:13:53,066 with no unions, no nothing, you know? 219 00:13:55,441 --> 00:13:57,775 I remember I was even a little bit afraid, 220 00:13:57,816 --> 00:14:01,276 because we had to have people back here. 221 00:14:01,318 --> 00:14:03,483 They were paid $65.00 a night. 222 00:14:03,525 --> 00:14:04,903 That was a lot of money, 223 00:14:05,065 --> 00:14:08,025 and I was afraid it was gonna impact the margins. 224 00:14:08,066 --> 00:14:10,318 And I didn't want to have anybody back here. 225 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,816 You know, even having a lighting guy. 226 00:14:11,858 --> 00:14:14,941 Up to that point, no nightclub had a lighting guy. 227 00:14:14,983 --> 00:14:16,525 The DJ did the lights. 228 00:14:16,566 --> 00:14:18,650 He played the music, and then he played with the lights. 229 00:14:18,691 --> 00:14:21,233 There was nothing like it. So, we had a DJ, we had a lighting guy, 230 00:14:21,276 --> 00:14:23,441 we had two guys on a fly reel back here. 231 00:14:23,483 --> 00:14:25,650 Like, we had four people in that thing. 232 00:14:25,691 --> 00:14:28,483 ♪ Shoot me ♪ 233 00:14:28,525 --> 00:14:32,025 There's still some old CBS residual stuff around here too. 234 00:14:32,066 --> 00:14:35,608 CBS left a lot behind that was just lying here for years. 235 00:14:35,650 --> 00:14:40,066 What we tried to do was keep it in the context of a theater. 236 00:14:40,108 --> 00:14:41,983 All the lighting... Everything was designed... 237 00:14:42,025 --> 00:14:44,150 The rawness of it, the seeing of the lights... 238 00:14:44,191 --> 00:14:46,775 It wasn't designed to be just pretty, 239 00:14:46,816 --> 00:14:48,900 it was designed to be a theater. 240 00:14:53,691 --> 00:14:56,525 There was just a tremendous amount of detail 241 00:14:56,566 --> 00:14:58,483 that went into the band floor. 242 00:14:58,525 --> 00:15:01,318 And, of course, all the interior design. 243 00:15:04,318 --> 00:15:07,191 You know, we just... we had to race ahead 244 00:15:07,233 --> 00:15:10,566 and were doing everything instinctive. 245 00:15:10,608 --> 00:15:14,400 Making the club was Ian's job. 246 00:15:14,441 --> 00:15:16,691 Steve did not get involved in this kind of stuff. 247 00:15:16,733 --> 00:15:19,691 But they were both engineering this whole process 248 00:15:19,733 --> 00:15:22,941 of getting the right crowd in the club. 249 00:15:22,983 --> 00:15:26,525 ♪ Ooh, ahh ♪ 250 00:15:26,566 --> 00:15:29,066 ♪ Ooh, ahh ♪ 251 00:15:29,108 --> 00:15:30,691 Ian and Steve shared the same office, 252 00:15:30,733 --> 00:15:32,983 and Steve was always laying on the couch. 253 00:15:33,025 --> 00:15:35,775 They were making deals and calling people, 254 00:15:35,816 --> 00:15:37,483 and they were sending limousines, 255 00:15:37,525 --> 00:15:41,816 they were inviting all the important big names. 256 00:15:41,858 --> 00:15:46,858 We were also sending out thousands of invitations. 257 00:15:46,900 --> 00:15:51,441 All those things contributed to the groundswell, the buzz. 258 00:15:51,483 --> 00:15:54,025 ♪ Ooh, ahh ♪ 259 00:15:54,066 --> 00:15:57,858 ♪ Ooh, ahh ♪ 260 00:15:57,900 --> 00:16:02,483 In the crush of everything that was going on, 261 00:16:02,525 --> 00:16:07,191 it was impossible to get a liquor license in that period of time. 262 00:16:07,233 --> 00:16:09,276 And matter of fact, we kind of forgot about it. 263 00:16:09,318 --> 00:16:11,441 It got lost in everything. 264 00:16:11,483 --> 00:16:14,900 So we thought we would go up and get a series 265 00:16:14,941 --> 00:16:17,608 of one-day catering permits. 266 00:16:17,650 --> 00:16:23,400 And so we called our company the Broadway Catering Corp. 267 00:16:27,025 --> 00:16:30,816 This is the first article ever written on Studio. 268 00:16:30,858 --> 00:16:33,108 This is Deana Winterpiece. 269 00:16:33,150 --> 00:16:35,360 "'Then we saw this', said Steven Rubell, 270 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,483 "leading a tour around the forgotten theater that is, 271 00:16:38,525 --> 00:16:42,691 even as we write, becoming New York's newest discotheque." 272 00:16:42,733 --> 00:16:45,360 How much did it cost? 273 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,900 400,000. I remember that. 274 00:16:49,941 --> 00:16:51,441 No, it was more, because we... No. 275 00:16:51,483 --> 00:16:53,483 ...we owed him money. 276 00:16:53,525 --> 00:16:56,150 -We owed him money. -How much? 277 00:16:56,191 --> 00:16:59,941 Probably another 350,400,000. 278 00:16:59,983 --> 00:17:02,360 Yeah, it was close to 700,000. 279 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,463 -Are you sure, Jack? 'Cause I always remember 400. 280 00:17:04,625 --> 00:17:05,360 -Um, yeah. Yeah... 281 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,483 Who did you owe money to? 282 00:17:07,525 --> 00:17:09,233 To the contractor. 283 00:17:09,276 --> 00:17:12,233 And, you know, that made me nervous because I was on the hook. 284 00:17:12,276 --> 00:17:16,150 You guys weren't. We didn't have anything. 285 00:17:16,191 --> 00:17:18,525 Jack, why did you do this? 286 00:17:18,566 --> 00:17:21,400 Steve and Ian had a club, 287 00:17:21,441 --> 00:17:25,150 Enchanted Gardens, which is where I met them. 288 00:17:25,191 --> 00:17:26,858 We had done a bar mitzvah for him. 289 00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:29,733 And I think at that time, it was the first time 290 00:17:29,775 --> 00:17:33,650 that anybody had actually done a discotheque for a, uh... 291 00:17:33,691 --> 00:17:35,483 -Bar mitzvah. -For a bar mitzvah. 292 00:17:39,150 --> 00:17:42,025 Enchanted Garden was the first nightclub 293 00:17:42,066 --> 00:17:43,650 that Steve and I did. 294 00:17:43,691 --> 00:17:45,983 It was a club for the kids in Queens. 295 00:17:49,858 --> 00:17:51,816 The first night, Steve went to the bar 296 00:17:51,858 --> 00:17:53,691 to hang out with the people, 297 00:17:53,733 --> 00:17:56,318 and I went up in the DJ booth to play with the lights. 298 00:17:58,691 --> 00:18:00,191 It's not over yet. 299 00:18:00,233 --> 00:18:02,191 Our fabulous band from Fiorucci 300 00:18:02,233 --> 00:18:04,816 are gonna give you a couple more treats, 301 00:18:04,858 --> 00:18:07,150 and then we hope you'll join in and dance with them. 302 00:18:07,191 --> 00:18:09,191 It was at the Enchanted Garden 303 00:18:09,233 --> 00:18:12,983 that we started to throw these extravagant parties. 304 00:18:13,025 --> 00:18:14,483 We learned the business 305 00:18:14,525 --> 00:18:16,733 and got our feet wet in Queens. 306 00:18:16,775 --> 00:18:19,233 But we always wanted to do 307 00:18:19,276 --> 00:18:22,733 a nightclub in Manhattan, which was the big leagues. 308 00:18:25,108 --> 00:18:26,983 As of tonight, 309 00:18:27,025 --> 00:18:30,483 the disco-goer becomes the performer. 310 00:18:30,525 --> 00:18:32,816 During the night you'll have sunsets, sunrises, 311 00:18:32,858 --> 00:18:36,191 fog machines, snow machines, wind machines. 312 00:18:36,233 --> 00:18:39,233 There'll be a tornado about 1:30 at night to get the people... 313 00:18:39,276 --> 00:18:41,441 Every night at 1:30, there's gonna be a tornado. 314 00:18:41,483 --> 00:18:43,525 Right. Tonight at 1:30, there'll be a tornado. 315 00:18:43,566 --> 00:18:45,191 Where do you take shelter around here? 316 00:18:45,233 --> 00:18:47,691 Oh, we hide upstairs in the balcony. 317 00:18:47,733 --> 00:18:49,775 You can also retreat to the balcony 318 00:18:49,816 --> 00:18:52,733 if you don't want to become one of the performers down there. 319 00:18:52,775 --> 00:18:54,941 In fact, they encourage you to come up here, 320 00:18:54,983 --> 00:18:56,941 whether you come up here to spectate or not. 321 00:18:56,983 --> 00:18:59,025 They give you these binoculars. 322 00:18:59,066 --> 00:19:01,525 Kristy Fair, Channel 11 Action News, 323 00:19:01,566 --> 00:19:05,775 on the balcony, out of the act, at Studio 54. 324 00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:16,191 We had everything riding on this club. 325 00:19:16,233 --> 00:19:20,650 If it was a failure, it would've been a very, very big failure. 326 00:19:20,691 --> 00:19:24,276 And if it was a success, it would've been a big success. 327 00:19:31,733 --> 00:19:35,400 The opening night, there's a mob scene. 328 00:19:35,441 --> 00:19:38,360 It was almost impossible to get close to the door. 329 00:19:40,525 --> 00:19:43,525 We didn't have the velvet rope all stretched out. 330 00:19:43,566 --> 00:19:45,400 And we didn't have adequate security. 331 00:19:45,441 --> 00:19:47,691 We had to take all the rest of the security that was in the place 332 00:19:47,733 --> 00:19:49,400 and put them out front. 333 00:19:49,441 --> 00:19:52,816 And we were afraid that they might break the door down. 334 00:19:52,858 --> 00:19:54,858 All right, please, everybody back up. 335 00:19:56,900 --> 00:19:59,941 At first, I was hired as security, 336 00:19:59,983 --> 00:20:01,483 but that first night, 337 00:20:01,525 --> 00:20:03,400 Steve put me outside the front door, 338 00:20:03,441 --> 00:20:05,691 and I was out front from day one. 339 00:20:05,733 --> 00:20:08,775 And Marc Benecke became the doorman 340 00:20:08,816 --> 00:20:10,525 only because he was the better-looking 341 00:20:10,566 --> 00:20:12,483 of the rest of the security guys. 342 00:20:12,525 --> 00:20:14,941 I'd never worked at a nightclub before. 343 00:20:14,983 --> 00:20:19,733 I, you know, just had to... I had to just kind of wing it. 344 00:20:19,775 --> 00:20:22,483 It was really beyond crazy. 345 00:20:25,858 --> 00:20:30,733 I remember getting past the doorman, 346 00:20:30,775 --> 00:20:32,775 and there was a carpeted... 347 00:20:32,816 --> 00:20:34,858 Looked like almost a runway. 348 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:37,400 And it was mirrored. 349 00:20:37,441 --> 00:20:40,608 The coatroom was to the right. 350 00:20:40,650 --> 00:20:44,276 I just remember hearing the music, and I threw my coat. 351 00:20:44,318 --> 00:20:45,983 The coat check was so out of control. 352 00:20:46,025 --> 00:20:47,525 I just started giving people tickets. 353 00:20:47,566 --> 00:20:49,108 We were hanging coats or putting coats... 354 00:20:49,150 --> 00:20:50,900 Then we're just throwing coats on the floor. 355 00:20:50,941 --> 00:20:53,191 Like, hundreds of people must've lost their coats that night. 356 00:20:53,233 --> 00:20:55,775 It was... It was total pandemonium. 357 00:20:57,858 --> 00:20:59,858 Boom, boom, boom. 358 00:20:59,900 --> 00:21:03,441 The sound of the music down the hall. 359 00:21:03,483 --> 00:21:07,566 There was a rush to get to the dance floor. Just a rush. 360 00:21:07,608 --> 00:21:09,441 The full blast of the sound, 361 00:21:09,483 --> 00:21:11,566 you know, just came over you in a big wave. 362 00:21:11,608 --> 00:21:15,066 ♪ You make me feel ♪ 363 00:21:15,108 --> 00:21:17,650 ♪ Mighty real ♪ 364 00:21:19,108 --> 00:21:22,191 ♪ You make me feel ♪ 365 00:21:22,233 --> 00:21:25,733 ♪ Mighty real ♪ 366 00:21:27,733 --> 00:21:30,360 The amount of drugs was profound. 367 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,941 You know? And they were all uppers. 368 00:21:31,983 --> 00:21:35,150 No one was on a downer that night. 369 00:21:35,191 --> 00:21:38,900 ♪ You make me feel ♪ 370 00:21:38,941 --> 00:21:42,775 It was carefree. It was hot. It was sexy. 371 00:21:42,816 --> 00:21:45,733 ♪ Mighty real ♪ 372 00:21:45,775 --> 00:21:49,441 ♪ Make me feel mighty real ♪ 373 00:21:49,483 --> 00:21:54,483 Something happened from that first night opening party. 374 00:21:54,525 --> 00:21:56,483 The message was sent out. 375 00:21:56,525 --> 00:21:59,650 It was like, poom, this was the spot. 376 00:21:59,691 --> 00:22:01,650 ♪ I feel real ♪ 377 00:22:01,691 --> 00:22:03,858 They invited the people 378 00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:06,650 that everyone else wanted to be in a room with. 379 00:22:06,691 --> 00:22:10,233 ♪ You make me feel ♪ 380 00:22:10,276 --> 00:22:14,025 ♪ Mighty real ♪ 381 00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:17,608 ♪ You make me feel ♪ 382 00:22:17,650 --> 00:22:21,276 ♪ Mighty real ♪ 383 00:22:21,318 --> 00:22:24,983 ♪ Oh, you make me feel ♪ 384 00:22:25,025 --> 00:22:28,441 ♪ Mighty real ♪ 385 00:22:28,483 --> 00:22:30,733 ♪ You make me feel ♪ 386 00:22:30,775 --> 00:22:32,400 I was absolutely shell-shocked. 387 00:22:33,775 --> 00:22:35,650 Steve was only 33, 388 00:22:35,691 --> 00:22:37,941 I was 29, 389 00:22:37,983 --> 00:22:40,400 and we had this massive hit. 390 00:22:40,441 --> 00:22:43,318 We were on the front page of the New York Post. 391 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,066 No other place had ever gotten that. None. 392 00:22:46,108 --> 00:22:49,360 It was like a dream for us. 393 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,400 Then it was just a question of, uh, feeding the monster. 394 00:22:58,066 --> 00:22:59,608 Who, me? 395 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,858 I think they wanna get out of the cab. 396 00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:08,150 Get them out of the cab. 397 00:23:08,191 --> 00:23:09,858 Oh, you're not shaved. 398 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:11,608 There's no way in a million years you're gonna get in. 399 00:23:11,650 --> 00:23:13,608 -Every... -It doesn't matter. You're not shaved. 400 00:23:13,650 --> 00:23:15,566 -Listen, just go home. -Over here! 401 00:23:15,608 --> 00:23:17,566 I'll try as soon as some leave. 402 00:23:20,858 --> 00:23:22,983 -Marc, check that side. -Right over here. 403 00:23:23,025 --> 00:23:24,566 Can you put the lights down a little? 404 00:23:24,608 --> 00:23:26,108 I can't see some of 'em. 405 00:23:26,150 --> 00:23:27,983 This is the scene 406 00:23:28,025 --> 00:23:31,233 outside a New York disco called Studio 54. 407 00:23:31,276 --> 00:23:33,941 This is the place that's in with the disco crowd. 408 00:23:33,983 --> 00:23:36,066 Except that these people are still out. 409 00:23:38,108 --> 00:23:40,483 Of course, Liza Minnelli and her kind of celebrities 410 00:23:40,525 --> 00:23:43,483 sweep right through the protective ranks of doorkeepers. 411 00:23:43,525 --> 00:23:44,288 The ropes came about 412 00:23:44,450 --> 00:23:46,691 because there were prostitutes on 8th and 5th and 4th, 413 00:23:46,733 --> 00:23:49,441 and in order to keep them out, we put the ropes up. 414 00:23:49,483 --> 00:23:51,650 And the ropes became part of the game. 415 00:23:51,691 --> 00:23:53,691 Steve! 416 00:23:53,733 --> 00:23:55,400 Now, you only admit celebrities? 417 00:23:55,441 --> 00:23:58,025 No. No. We admit everybody. 418 00:23:58,066 --> 00:23:58,946 How do you choose? 419 00:23:59,108 --> 00:24:01,483 What are your criteria for admitting someone? 420 00:24:01,525 --> 00:24:02,361 Really fun-loving... 421 00:24:02,523 --> 00:24:04,691 We want people who are just in there to have fun 422 00:24:04,733 --> 00:24:06,608 and not get heavy with each other. 423 00:24:06,650 --> 00:24:09,525 -People come there to relax. -You favor couples versus singles? 424 00:24:09,566 --> 00:24:12,066 We... Couples, gay people, you know? 425 00:24:16,441 --> 00:24:18,276 Going out in those days, 426 00:24:18,318 --> 00:24:20,400 it was all about ego. 427 00:24:20,441 --> 00:24:23,858 This was one's lifestyle. 428 00:24:23,900 --> 00:24:27,566 If you didn't see somebody at Studio 54, 429 00:24:27,608 --> 00:24:29,983 it meant they couldn't get in. 430 00:24:30,025 --> 00:24:32,360 And what did that mean? 431 00:24:32,441 --> 00:24:35,233 Pfft! 432 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:40,691 Every night, there would be a guest list 433 00:24:40,733 --> 00:24:43,025 that would be for the front door. 434 00:24:43,066 --> 00:24:45,650 There'd be somebody's name on the guest list, 435 00:24:45,691 --> 00:24:47,066 then the next column, 436 00:24:47,108 --> 00:24:51,318 there would be "pay," "comp," or "NFU." 437 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:55,150 And "NFU" meant "no fuck-up." 438 00:24:55,191 --> 00:24:57,691 That meant that Marc had to let them in. 439 00:24:57,733 --> 00:25:00,691 We had "GN," which really meant "NG," 440 00:25:00,733 --> 00:25:03,108 which meant "no good," which means if they were no good, 441 00:25:03,150 --> 00:25:05,525 you don't have to let them in. Celebrities... 442 00:25:05,566 --> 00:25:08,608 Some celebrities get special treatment, others don't. 443 00:25:08,650 --> 00:25:12,191 -Do they get in for nothing? -Most of them do, not all. 444 00:25:12,233 --> 00:25:15,276 -Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, of course, would get in. 445 00:25:15,318 --> 00:25:18,733 But some of the other Rolling Stones actually had to pay. 446 00:25:22,318 --> 00:25:26,483 Friday and Saturday night, you know, 447 00:25:26,525 --> 00:25:29,525 the so-called bridge-and-tunnel crowd used to come in. 448 00:25:29,566 --> 00:25:31,276 They didn't get into Studio 54. 449 00:25:31,318 --> 00:25:35,025 They probably did go to New York-New York, 450 00:25:35,066 --> 00:25:38,066 and Infinity, the Ice Palace, 451 00:25:38,108 --> 00:25:40,816 you know, Hurrah's, and other clubs like that. 452 00:25:40,858 --> 00:25:43,983 But they weren't coming to Studio 54. 453 00:25:44,025 --> 00:25:46,900 Steve is the one who came up with that term "bridge-and-tunnel." 454 00:25:46,941 --> 00:25:48,650 You know, it was his way 455 00:25:48,691 --> 00:25:51,566 of explaining that we didn't want people 456 00:25:51,608 --> 00:25:55,983 with the polyester shirts, gold chains. 457 00:25:56,025 --> 00:25:58,108 "Polyester melts under the lights." 458 00:25:58,150 --> 00:26:01,276 That was, uh... That was one we heard a lot. 459 00:26:01,318 --> 00:26:03,276 He would split up couples. He would say to the girl, 460 00:26:03,318 --> 00:26:04,775 "You're really beautiful. You're in, 461 00:26:04,816 --> 00:26:06,441 "but your boyfriend's gotta go home 462 00:26:06,483 --> 00:26:08,525 and change into a cotton shirt." 463 00:26:08,566 --> 00:26:11,108 And would you let yourself in wearing a shirt like that? 464 00:26:11,150 --> 00:26:13,233 This shirt? Yeah, this is a good one to let in... 465 00:26:13,276 --> 00:26:16,691 these Hawaiian shirts. Uh, good one. But, uh, 466 00:26:16,733 --> 00:26:19,150 I don't know if I would've let myself in when the place started. 467 00:26:19,191 --> 00:26:21,816 I doubt it really very much. If somebody else was to... 468 00:26:21,858 --> 00:26:23,816 No, actually, it isn't like that. 469 00:26:23,858 --> 00:26:27,525 The only thing that it's not based on is money. 470 00:26:27,566 --> 00:26:30,191 Has anybody ever offered you sex? Oh, yeah. 471 00:26:30,233 --> 00:26:34,483 -Do you take it? -Depends on the offer. 472 00:26:34,525 --> 00:26:36,733 But they have to be hot enough to get inside first. 473 00:26:36,775 --> 00:26:39,276 Because if they weren't, then that wouldn't be a problem anyway. 474 00:26:39,318 --> 00:26:41,983 -So it doesn't matter. 475 00:26:46,941 --> 00:26:48,733 If you look at the photograph, 476 00:26:48,775 --> 00:26:50,941 it's a more slightly hopeful throng. 477 00:26:50,983 --> 00:26:53,066 You see an occasional waved hand, 478 00:26:53,108 --> 00:26:58,816 a little grin trying to catch the eye of Marc Benecke or Steve. 479 00:26:58,858 --> 00:27:02,191 It's like the damned looking into paradise. 480 00:27:04,276 --> 00:27:06,608 I don't know. Last time I was here, I got in right away. 481 00:27:06,650 --> 00:27:10,691 So I don't know. I guess they either like the way you look, or they don't. 482 00:27:10,733 --> 00:27:14,191 If I knew what their policy was and how they selected 483 00:27:14,233 --> 00:27:17,733 those who are permitted entrance to the inner sanctum, 484 00:27:17,775 --> 00:27:22,025 I might even alter my personality, my dress, 485 00:27:22,066 --> 00:27:23,608 in order to pass inspection. 486 00:27:23,650 --> 00:27:26,360 But they, apparently, keep it a secret. 487 00:27:30,025 --> 00:27:33,318 There was a passion to get in, 488 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:36,150 and a resentment and a hatred if you didn't. 489 00:27:36,191 --> 00:27:40,525 We didn't care. We just wanted the success. 490 00:27:51,775 --> 00:27:56,025 Ian and Steve were excellent at the PR. 491 00:27:56,066 --> 00:27:59,150 Steve just loved getting on the phone, 492 00:27:59,191 --> 00:28:01,441 and talking to the press and letting them know 493 00:28:01,483 --> 00:28:03,150 who was there, what went on. 494 00:28:03,191 --> 00:28:06,150 And we got more press than anybody else. 495 00:28:09,816 --> 00:28:13,108 Ian called me up and said, "Let's make a deal." 496 00:28:13,150 --> 00:28:17,066 And I would get paid for wrangling the celebrities. 497 00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:24,318 If I generated PR around that person, 498 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:28,816 I would get $500 for the cover of the Daily News. 499 00:28:28,858 --> 00:28:30,691 If I got them on the cover of the New York Post, 500 00:28:30,733 --> 00:28:32,691 it would be an additional $500. 501 00:28:32,733 --> 00:28:36,066 And then if I got them into "Page Six," it'd be like 150. 502 00:28:36,108 --> 00:28:39,150 So, any celebrity that walked in 503 00:28:39,191 --> 00:28:42,150 pretty much got on the cover of the New York Post or the Daily News. 504 00:28:42,191 --> 00:28:45,276 It was huge news. 505 00:28:45,318 --> 00:28:47,941 Anything that happened there 506 00:28:47,983 --> 00:28:50,191 was on the cover of the newspapers, 507 00:28:50,233 --> 00:28:52,941 was double pages inside. 508 00:28:52,983 --> 00:28:55,858 And there were celebrities there every night. 509 00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:59,233 Everyone felt like they had to be there, 510 00:28:59,276 --> 00:29:03,150 or they were missing out. 511 00:29:03,191 --> 00:29:05,360 There was this paradigm shift 512 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,276 away from reading about crime and and sports heroes, 513 00:29:10,318 --> 00:29:12,900 and people became fascinated with celebrities. 514 00:29:15,025 --> 00:29:18,900 It was the beginning of the age of celebrity. 515 00:29:18,941 --> 00:29:21,108 We were there at the right time, 516 00:29:21,150 --> 00:29:24,608 and we rode it for all that it was worth. 517 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,900 The photographers we let in were those that we could control, 518 00:29:36,941 --> 00:29:40,191 that would play by the rules that we set up. 519 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,233 Here's the Studio 54 box. 520 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,816 Here's some of the pictures that I've taken. 521 00:29:51,858 --> 00:29:56,733 This is a great shot of, uh, Elton John 522 00:29:56,775 --> 00:30:01,150 feeling the boobs of Divine. 523 00:30:01,191 --> 00:30:06,816 I did miss Bianca, but I got Dolly Parton kissing this horse. 524 00:30:06,858 --> 00:30:09,233 In the limousine, I got this great shot 525 00:30:09,276 --> 00:30:11,650 of Liz Taylor in a limousine. 526 00:30:11,691 --> 00:30:13,525 I call it "Fat Liz." 527 00:30:15,318 --> 00:30:18,483 Here we have Truman Capote with his robe. 528 00:30:18,525 --> 00:30:20,983 And he had slippers. I have another shot 529 00:30:21,025 --> 00:30:25,900 with his slippers... with his initials on his slippers. 530 00:30:27,483 --> 00:30:31,691 There's Ian Schrager at the stage door, 531 00:30:31,733 --> 00:30:34,150 looking for an arrival of a celebrity. 532 00:30:34,191 --> 00:30:36,566 I don't know which celebrity he was looking for. 533 00:30:36,608 --> 00:30:38,525 But Ian was very nice. 534 00:30:38,566 --> 00:30:41,566 He was an introvert. 535 00:30:41,608 --> 00:30:43,150 He was rare, actually. 536 00:30:43,191 --> 00:30:44,983 It was a rare time I got that picture. 537 00:30:45,025 --> 00:30:46,983 He didn't like publicity. Like, you see, 538 00:30:47,025 --> 00:30:50,483 here's a braggadocio. 539 00:30:50,525 --> 00:30:52,733 Here's a braggadocio! 540 00:30:52,775 --> 00:30:54,483 Steve Rubell! 541 00:30:54,525 --> 00:30:56,441 Here I am. 542 00:30:56,483 --> 00:30:58,441 Look at me. 543 00:30:58,483 --> 00:31:02,318 He's there with the stars. Big stars, small stars. 544 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,816 He wanted exposure, and he got it. 545 00:31:04,858 --> 00:31:08,150 He got a lot of exposure. He's in the pictures. 546 00:31:12,566 --> 00:31:14,150 What came first, 547 00:31:14,191 --> 00:31:17,191 the photographers or the celebrities? 548 00:31:17,233 --> 00:31:19,650 I think the room, and being an old studio, 549 00:31:19,691 --> 00:31:22,025 an old theater, and the lights, and... 550 00:31:22,066 --> 00:31:23,941 That has a lot to do with it. I mean, 551 00:31:23,983 --> 00:31:25,900 you have to build a nice mousetrap 552 00:31:25,941 --> 00:31:27,983 to attract the mice. 553 00:31:31,608 --> 00:31:35,233 Steve really took care of these celebrities. 554 00:31:35,276 --> 00:31:39,108 He became very friendly with fashion designers like Halston. 555 00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:42,191 The press actually came up with this phrase, 556 00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:44,650 "Halston-Liza-Bianca-Andy," 557 00:31:44,691 --> 00:31:46,318 with hyphens between the names. 558 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,150 It was like a unit. 559 00:31:48,191 --> 00:31:51,025 They were the core group. 560 00:31:51,066 --> 00:31:53,608 Studio got so much publicity 561 00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:55,858 that it made all of these people 562 00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:57,816 more of household names. 563 00:31:57,858 --> 00:31:59,983 -Hello, Steven. -Hi. 564 00:32:00,025 --> 00:32:02,525 I go out of my way to take care of them, make them feel comfortable, 565 00:32:02,566 --> 00:32:05,525 honestly, 'cause I get off on it myself. 566 00:32:05,566 --> 00:32:07,650 This was really his dream. 567 00:32:07,691 --> 00:32:10,983 His dream was to be the best friends with everyone he saw 568 00:32:11,025 --> 00:32:14,191 in the newspapers and in magazines growing up. 569 00:32:14,233 --> 00:32:15,650 And they were. 570 00:32:15,691 --> 00:32:18,066 Hi, Michael. Come on in. You can come right in. Hi. 571 00:32:18,108 --> 00:32:19,816 -Hi. Hi. -How are you? 572 00:32:19,858 --> 00:32:21,983 -You just walked in? How are you? -Yeah, I did. 573 00:32:22,025 --> 00:32:23,838 -Michael, this is Jane Pauley. Come sit over here. 574 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,941 -Excuse me. Whoops. Can I? 575 00:32:24,983 --> 00:32:27,276 -Hi. Fine. -How do you do, Michael Jackson? 576 00:32:27,318 --> 00:32:29,483 Good to see you. Come here a lot? 577 00:32:29,525 --> 00:32:33,441 Oh, God, yes. Because, well... Why? 578 00:32:33,483 --> 00:32:35,691 I like the atmosphere of Studio 54. 579 00:32:35,733 --> 00:32:37,191 I've been to a lot of discotheques, 580 00:32:37,233 --> 00:32:38,608 and I don't like them, honestly. 581 00:32:38,650 --> 00:32:39,983 What's the difference? 582 00:32:40,025 --> 00:32:41,566 All around the world, I've been... 583 00:32:41,608 --> 00:32:43,400 I don't know. The feeling... I mean, 584 00:32:43,441 --> 00:32:46,816 the excitement of the props coming down, and the balcony... 585 00:32:46,858 --> 00:32:49,191 It's just exciting. Honestly. 586 00:32:49,233 --> 00:32:51,483 People take good care of you here? 587 00:32:51,525 --> 00:32:54,983 -Yes. Steve's very nice. -What's Stevie like? 588 00:32:55,025 --> 00:32:58,360 He's one of my favorite people because he's genuine, 589 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,276 and for real and honest. 590 00:33:01,318 --> 00:33:02,858 And that's what I like in people. 591 00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:05,233 When you hear the name Studio 54, what does that do? 592 00:33:05,276 --> 00:33:07,691 Does it... your pulse quicken, and your feet start moving? 593 00:33:07,733 --> 00:33:09,733 Yeah, I'm ready to have a good time. 594 00:33:09,775 --> 00:33:12,066 It's where you come when you want to escape. 595 00:33:12,108 --> 00:33:15,360 It's really escapism. 596 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,733 That's what I try to make it be, too, is escapism. 597 00:33:18,775 --> 00:33:22,150 In other words, people who have... whatever hassles they have all day, 598 00:33:22,191 --> 00:33:24,650 they come here, and they can forget about them. -That's right. 599 00:33:24,691 --> 00:33:27,650 And they can come here and just be yourself and dance. 600 00:33:29,566 --> 00:33:31,150 When you dance here, you're just free. 601 00:33:31,191 --> 00:33:33,318 You dance with whoever you want to. 602 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,066 You just go... I mean, you just go wild. 603 00:33:39,650 --> 00:33:42,941 There aren't that many times in life 604 00:33:42,983 --> 00:33:46,150 where you're absolutely free. 605 00:33:49,483 --> 00:33:53,650 Everybody felt protected and safe. 606 00:33:56,775 --> 00:34:00,191 You felt like you were in a place where you could relax. 607 00:34:00,233 --> 00:34:03,983 You saw gay men kissing for the first time there. 608 00:34:04,025 --> 00:34:06,608 And celebrities with gay men. 609 00:34:06,650 --> 00:34:09,108 And people didn't judge. 610 00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:11,941 You could be who you are when you were there. 611 00:34:11,983 --> 00:34:15,733 The lighting and everything... I mean, it makes you feel sensuous. 612 00:34:15,775 --> 00:34:17,691 All this going on and drinking 613 00:34:17,733 --> 00:34:19,483 and thump-thump-thump music 614 00:34:19,525 --> 00:34:22,191 and beautiful people everywhere. 615 00:34:22,233 --> 00:34:24,733 It makes you want to feel like that. 616 00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:29,650 I was wearing lingerie and heels, 617 00:34:29,691 --> 00:34:31,691 and I could go to the dance floor, 618 00:34:31,733 --> 00:34:33,858 and I could dance with everybody. 619 00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:37,360 I'd float on the dance floor and dance with... 620 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,566 They were all my friends. 621 00:34:39,608 --> 00:34:41,650 I mean, I didn't know them. They didn't know me. 622 00:34:41,691 --> 00:34:43,858 But they didn't care, and I didn't care. 623 00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:46,276 So that's how we danced at Studio. 624 00:34:46,318 --> 00:34:48,691 We danced with the entire club. 625 00:34:52,233 --> 00:34:54,566 Disco was a haven 626 00:34:54,608 --> 00:34:57,983 for, you know, inclusion and acceptance, 627 00:34:58,025 --> 00:35:00,066 and that the street wasn't. 628 00:35:00,108 --> 00:35:01,566 Out on the street, 629 00:35:01,608 --> 00:35:05,608 homophobia existed much more than even today. 630 00:35:05,650 --> 00:35:08,108 Transgenders took their lives in their hands 631 00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:09,941 walking down the street in New York City. 632 00:35:11,775 --> 00:35:15,566 But as soon as they stepped foot into the disco, they were safe. 633 00:35:15,608 --> 00:35:18,775 And not only they were safe, but they were included, 634 00:35:18,816 --> 00:35:22,150 they were accepted, they were part of the scene. 635 00:35:22,191 --> 00:35:24,691 Do people ever insult you or are rude to you? 636 00:35:24,733 --> 00:35:26,525 -No. -No, they're petrified. 637 00:35:26,566 --> 00:35:28,691 They think we escaped from a Broadway show. 638 00:35:28,733 --> 00:35:30,360 Basically, New York people are very open 639 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,983 and very courteous and kind. 640 00:35:32,025 --> 00:35:33,733 No. No, that's not true. Only at Studio. 641 00:35:33,775 --> 00:35:35,566 -We truly feel at home here. -Yeah. Yes. 642 00:35:35,608 --> 00:35:38,983 We pay rent, sort of. $14.00 is rent, I think, you know? 643 00:35:39,025 --> 00:35:43,733 At Studio 54, gay energy was bigger than life. 644 00:35:43,775 --> 00:35:46,650 The influence filled the room and filled the space. 645 00:35:49,566 --> 00:35:52,441 The mantra at Studio was you were in a fantasy 646 00:35:52,483 --> 00:35:54,318 and you could be anyone you wanted to be 647 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,566 for that moment in time, and people did. 648 00:35:56,608 --> 00:36:00,108 ♪ All that love and affection ♪ 649 00:36:00,150 --> 00:36:02,025 Thank you, Rollerina. I really needed that. 650 00:36:02,066 --> 00:36:06,983 Rollerina was a Wall Street banker by day, 651 00:36:07,025 --> 00:36:09,025 a fairy godmother by night. 652 00:36:11,233 --> 00:36:13,483 Disco Sally was a lawyer, 653 00:36:13,525 --> 00:36:16,400 and she was about 78 years old. 654 00:36:16,441 --> 00:36:18,858 I was against Disco Sally at the beginning 655 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:22,025 'cause I thought the whole thing was kind of gimmicky. 656 00:36:22,066 --> 00:36:24,191 And Steve's like, "No, no, you're wrong. You're wrong. 657 00:36:24,233 --> 00:36:26,108 This is good for the club. It's good for the club." 658 00:36:28,983 --> 00:36:30,276 Potassa, who was, like, 659 00:36:30,318 --> 00:36:31,608 the most fabulous drag queen 660 00:36:31,650 --> 00:36:33,191 of that whole era. 661 00:36:33,233 --> 00:36:36,566 She was 5'11" out of shoes, 662 00:36:36,608 --> 00:36:38,983 and 6'6" in shoes. 663 00:36:39,025 --> 00:36:43,775 And you never, ever, ever, ever, ever saw her out of drag. 664 00:36:43,816 --> 00:36:46,816 And she'd hold center stage when she wanted to. 665 00:36:52,775 --> 00:36:55,191 What's really beautiful about the Studio... 666 00:36:55,233 --> 00:36:56,983 the combination of people. 667 00:36:57,025 --> 00:37:00,276 If you put just the beautiful people so close together, 668 00:37:00,318 --> 00:37:02,608 then they... they are used to seeing each other. 669 00:37:02,650 --> 00:37:04,318 They might even get bored of that. 670 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,983 But if you mix them properly, 671 00:37:06,025 --> 00:37:07,733 which was the case of the Studio, 672 00:37:07,775 --> 00:37:09,318 with all the bizarre characters 673 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,941 and the transvestites, and all that, 674 00:37:10,983 --> 00:37:12,360 they like the combination. 675 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,691 I think it was a wonderful cocktail. 676 00:37:19,150 --> 00:37:23,066 That diversity created this combustible energy. 677 00:37:23,108 --> 00:37:24,983 It was tribal almost. 678 00:37:25,025 --> 00:37:27,066 That wild abandonment, 679 00:37:27,108 --> 00:37:28,858 that freedom was all a part of it. 680 00:37:33,191 --> 00:37:36,566 It was like an adult amusement park. 681 00:37:36,608 --> 00:37:39,691 They had a real sense of what people wanted. 682 00:37:39,733 --> 00:37:41,941 You know? Adults wanted. 683 00:37:41,983 --> 00:37:47,691 ♪ Ahh, my baby's baby ♪ 684 00:37:49,108 --> 00:37:51,900 ♪ Oh, my ♪ 685 00:37:51,941 --> 00:37:55,483 ♪ My baby's baby ♪ 686 00:37:57,941 --> 00:38:01,525 In the '70s, there was this kind of window of opportunity 687 00:38:01,566 --> 00:38:03,775 between the invention of the pill 688 00:38:03,816 --> 00:38:05,691 and the advent of AIDS. 689 00:38:05,733 --> 00:38:08,066 So, even if you weren't promiscuous 690 00:38:08,108 --> 00:38:10,441 or sleeping with someone different every night, 691 00:38:10,483 --> 00:38:12,066 you felt like you could. 692 00:38:12,108 --> 00:38:14,691 You know, love was in the air. 693 00:38:14,733 --> 00:38:16,608 Sex was in the air. 694 00:38:16,650 --> 00:38:20,816 ♪ Fly, robin, fly ♪ 695 00:38:20,858 --> 00:38:23,191 In the balconies, it was dark. 696 00:38:23,233 --> 00:38:26,441 People would make out, and maybe somebody would give somebody a blow job. 697 00:38:26,483 --> 00:38:27,983 ♪ Fly, robin, fly ♪ 698 00:38:28,025 --> 00:38:30,816 Same thing in the bathrooms. 699 00:38:30,858 --> 00:38:33,941 ♪ Up, up to the sky ♪ 700 00:38:33,983 --> 00:38:37,108 There were mattresses in the basement. 701 00:38:37,150 --> 00:38:39,318 And I went down there 702 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,360 and slept with a lot of people. A lot. 703 00:38:49,276 --> 00:38:50,858 Gay people had the advantage 704 00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,441 because no one was getting pregnant. So, basically, 705 00:38:53,483 --> 00:38:55,400 you could just go out there and have a blast, 706 00:38:55,441 --> 00:38:56,900 and you could have sex as much as you want, 707 00:38:56,941 --> 00:38:58,108 and there was no repercussions. 708 00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:59,400 And why not? 709 00:38:59,441 --> 00:39:00,816 Because you're supposed to now. 710 00:39:00,858 --> 00:39:02,276 It's all about freedom. 711 00:39:02,318 --> 00:39:03,941 You could try anything. 712 00:39:11,775 --> 00:39:13,191 Steve had this huge coat 713 00:39:13,233 --> 00:39:14,941 that he would wear a lot of times, 714 00:39:14,983 --> 00:39:17,400 and in that coat was money and drugs. 715 00:39:17,441 --> 00:39:20,816 And it was like Daddy Warbucks. 716 00:39:20,858 --> 00:39:24,733 Steve was big on Quaaludes, to be quite frank about it. 717 00:39:24,775 --> 00:39:27,360 He loved giving out the Quaaludes. If you said, "Steve, 718 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,566 I don't want a quaalude," he'd say, "Oh, just take a half." 719 00:39:29,608 --> 00:39:32,566 Oh, I don't think you're a priest, are ya? 720 00:39:32,608 --> 00:39:34,733 You're too much of a bad boy. 721 00:39:34,775 --> 00:39:39,150 He always wanted to get the party going to another level. 722 00:39:39,191 --> 00:39:41,400 You can say higher and lower, 723 00:39:41,441 --> 00:39:43,816 and I'll leave that open to interpretation. 724 00:39:43,858 --> 00:39:45,941 Everybody, come on! 725 00:39:45,983 --> 00:39:48,191 You think this happens anywhere else in the world? 726 00:39:48,233 --> 00:39:51,150 -No. -No, I was all over the world. 727 00:39:51,191 --> 00:39:54,941 I'm happy. 728 00:39:54,983 --> 00:39:57,150 The music, the lights, 729 00:39:57,191 --> 00:40:00,483 supple-bodied young waiters dressed in nothing but shorts, 730 00:40:00,525 --> 00:40:03,483 and drinks at one pound fifty a glass. 731 00:40:03,525 --> 00:40:07,900 The formula has made the owner a very rich young man. 732 00:40:10,441 --> 00:40:12,775 He enjoyed every night. 733 00:40:12,816 --> 00:40:16,441 I mean, Steve probably had more fun than anybody. 734 00:40:16,483 --> 00:40:19,608 And the environment we created allowed him 735 00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:23,691 to be comfortable and accept his sexuality, 736 00:40:23,733 --> 00:40:26,108 maybe for the first time in his whole life. 737 00:40:27,941 --> 00:40:30,276 He was in his element. 738 00:40:30,318 --> 00:40:33,400 To me, it was different. 739 00:40:33,441 --> 00:40:34,983 I didn't want to walk through the crowd 740 00:40:35,025 --> 00:40:37,691 and have to be poked, people say hello. 741 00:40:39,318 --> 00:40:43,233 All the time that Studio 54 existed, 742 00:40:43,276 --> 00:40:48,900 you rarely saw pictures of Ian or read anything about Ian. 743 00:40:48,941 --> 00:40:52,360 Ian was behind the scenes. 744 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,983 But he was the brilliant mind 745 00:40:55,025 --> 00:40:58,983 and designing in a way that had never been seen. 746 00:40:59,025 --> 00:41:01,441 People were just obsessed 747 00:41:01,483 --> 00:41:04,441 with what he was gonna do next. 748 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,441 There was a theatrical quality of the place 749 00:41:09,483 --> 00:41:12,941 that I'd never seen before. 750 00:41:12,983 --> 00:41:15,983 It was an experience. 751 00:41:16,025 --> 00:41:18,691 Touching, like, pretty much all of your senses. 752 00:41:28,608 --> 00:41:30,650 It's a visceral business. 753 00:41:34,066 --> 00:41:35,775 You have really no discernible product 754 00:41:35,816 --> 00:41:37,608 except the magic you create. 755 00:41:43,025 --> 00:41:46,566 The moving of lights and sets and changing the environment 756 00:41:46,608 --> 00:41:48,900 from one second to the next... 757 00:41:48,941 --> 00:41:50,941 that had never been done before. 758 00:41:56,608 --> 00:42:00,150 Ian really created a world of fantasy. 759 00:42:00,191 --> 00:42:02,691 It was the transformation of individuals 760 00:42:02,733 --> 00:42:04,775 into this sort of group energy 761 00:42:04,816 --> 00:42:07,191 that absolutely exploded. 762 00:42:22,108 --> 00:42:26,733 Ian really is a genius for creating experiences for people. 763 00:42:26,775 --> 00:42:30,441 We went right up to the edge 764 00:42:30,483 --> 00:42:34,483 in every single aspect of it. 765 00:42:34,525 --> 00:42:38,608 Building code, modalities, taste levels, social morays... 766 00:42:38,650 --> 00:42:41,233 everything, right up to the edge. 767 00:42:44,733 --> 00:42:48,816 It would cost as much as 40,000 or $50,000 768 00:42:48,858 --> 00:42:51,276 just for the one night. 769 00:42:53,525 --> 00:42:56,691 We wanted to break down that barrier 770 00:42:56,733 --> 00:42:59,858 between the audience and the performers 771 00:42:59,900 --> 00:43:03,108 and introduce the idea that anything could happen. 772 00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:04,066 And it did. 773 00:43:09,191 --> 00:43:12,816 Everybody who worked there knew we were cast members. 774 00:43:12,858 --> 00:43:14,775 We were putting on a show, 775 00:43:14,816 --> 00:43:17,691 and everybody had to give an incredible performance 776 00:43:17,733 --> 00:43:19,400 and give an incredible service. 777 00:43:30,066 --> 00:43:32,525 I was addicted to Studio 54, 778 00:43:32,566 --> 00:43:34,608 without any question. 779 00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:37,691 I had to go there every night, and so did a lot of people. 780 00:43:37,733 --> 00:43:42,441 Studio 54 is probably the Mount Olympus of the disco world. 781 00:43:42,483 --> 00:43:44,360 Right now, it is the center of the universe 782 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,983 for those who dance to 125 beats a minute. 783 00:43:47,025 --> 00:43:51,233 Studio 54, the definitive disco here in New York City. 784 00:44:02,108 --> 00:44:07,025 We were so excited, so high on the success, 785 00:44:07,066 --> 00:44:10,900 that I would count the money at night, which I enjoyed. 786 00:44:10,941 --> 00:44:13,733 You know, dump the money out of the bag, 787 00:44:13,775 --> 00:44:17,650 kind of arrange it, and then split it up in... 788 00:44:17,691 --> 00:44:19,691 You know, and I would make three piles, 789 00:44:19,733 --> 00:44:23,025 and bring in a pile for Steve and a pile for Jack. 790 00:44:26,025 --> 00:44:28,191 One thing that I think, if you hung out there, 791 00:44:28,233 --> 00:44:30,108 you did notice was that they changed 792 00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:33,525 the cash register receipt roll in the middle of the night. 793 00:44:33,566 --> 00:44:36,318 That began to get out. 794 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,483 People began to notice that. 795 00:44:38,525 --> 00:44:41,108 It was about the exhilaration 796 00:44:41,150 --> 00:44:44,400 of having this great success, our life's dream. 797 00:44:47,233 --> 00:44:49,276 We had the best crowd in the world. 798 00:44:49,318 --> 00:44:51,525 We had the best press. We had the best club. 799 00:44:51,566 --> 00:44:53,360 We were number 1. 800 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,733 Suddenly on top of the world. 801 00:44:56,775 --> 00:45:00,733 They were living in a dream, practically. 802 00:45:00,775 --> 00:45:02,483 It was becoming so much fun 803 00:45:02,525 --> 00:45:06,025 that they were losing touch with reality. 804 00:45:12,775 --> 00:45:16,233 I was up in my office with a girl, 805 00:45:16,276 --> 00:45:18,858 and I heard the music stop. 806 00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:20,360 Well, I walked downstairs, 807 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,483 and Steve was already over there. 808 00:45:22,525 --> 00:45:24,775 You're encompassed in this little world, and all of a sudden, 809 00:45:24,816 --> 00:45:26,360 the lights went on, and the police are there, 810 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,816 and it was like the reality was in your face, 811 00:45:28,858 --> 00:45:30,191 like holy shit. 812 00:45:30,233 --> 00:45:33,318 And we were both under arrest. 813 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,400 We still didn't have a liquor license, 814 00:45:35,441 --> 00:45:37,400 so we were getting catering permits every night. 815 00:45:37,441 --> 00:45:39,566 But, you know, at a point in time, they're like, 816 00:45:39,608 --> 00:45:42,276 "Okay, why are these guys coming every night for a catering permit? 817 00:45:42,318 --> 00:45:44,360 They're a nightclub, and everybody knows it." 818 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,691 Okay. 819 00:45:46,733 --> 00:45:48,608 Roy Cohn was our lawyer at the time. 820 00:45:48,650 --> 00:45:53,983 I had called him, and, uh... to help us. 821 00:45:54,025 --> 00:45:56,108 Their lawyer was Roy Cohn, 822 00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:59,483 and I knew he was also an attorney for Mob guys 823 00:45:59,525 --> 00:46:02,108 and heavy-duty people in Manhattan. 824 00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:03,941 That kind of made sense to me... 825 00:46:03,983 --> 00:46:06,191 that there's a reason they're not afraid of much. 826 00:46:06,233 --> 00:46:08,483 After a few hours, 827 00:46:08,525 --> 00:46:10,608 we were released. 828 00:46:10,650 --> 00:46:13,983 We were able, you know, to keep the place open 829 00:46:14,025 --> 00:46:17,108 for six months with no liquor. 830 00:46:17,150 --> 00:46:20,441 Then we finally got the license. 831 00:46:20,483 --> 00:46:22,318 I have a picture of me and Steve 832 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,108 holding the liquor license when we got it. 833 00:46:27,150 --> 00:46:28,983 And from that moment on, 834 00:46:29,025 --> 00:46:31,233 we felt like we conquered the world. 835 00:46:36,775 --> 00:46:38,775 They thought they were so important 836 00:46:38,816 --> 00:46:41,150 that they could do anything. 837 00:46:41,191 --> 00:46:45,318 But people started to get angrier and angrier at Steve Rubell 838 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,025 and at Studio 54 because they couldn't get in. 839 00:46:48,066 --> 00:46:49,983 -One day, I'll be a star. -They won't let me in. 840 00:46:53,691 --> 00:46:56,858 You can't have this much popularity 841 00:46:56,900 --> 00:47:00,983 without somebody somewhere 842 00:47:01,025 --> 00:47:04,650 being envious or wanting to take it down. 843 00:47:04,691 --> 00:47:08,360 I mean, it's human nature. It's just the way life is. 844 00:47:11,733 --> 00:47:14,150 The Dan Dorfman article, 845 00:47:14,191 --> 00:47:16,900 Steve said, "Only the Mafia does better, 846 00:47:16,941 --> 00:47:18,400 but don't tell anybody." 847 00:47:20,441 --> 00:47:23,525 Part of Stevie was a braggart, you know? 848 00:47:23,566 --> 00:47:25,566 "Look what I'm doing, I'm having the best time, 849 00:47:25,608 --> 00:47:27,775 and we're making tons of money." 850 00:47:27,816 --> 00:47:30,150 He was very proud about that. 851 00:47:30,191 --> 00:47:32,608 I thought it was the stupidest thing I'd ever seen. 852 00:47:32,650 --> 00:47:34,608 And when I called him, I said, 853 00:47:34,650 --> 00:47:36,025 "You're asking the IRS 854 00:47:36,066 --> 00:47:38,775 to just come knocking at your door." 855 00:47:38,816 --> 00:47:41,983 And he said, "No, no, no one's gonna bother me." 856 00:47:50,108 --> 00:47:53,150 Close to two dozen IRS agents 857 00:47:53,191 --> 00:47:55,150 raided the chic disco this morning, 858 00:47:55,191 --> 00:47:57,191 armed with a warrant to search and seize 859 00:47:57,233 --> 00:48:01,525 any and all records relating to the club's finances. 860 00:48:01,566 --> 00:48:05,900 We got raided on December 14th, 1978. 861 00:48:05,941 --> 00:48:08,816 December 14th... that was just a terrible day. 862 00:48:10,941 --> 00:48:15,733 The Studio 54 case began with an allegation 863 00:48:15,775 --> 00:48:18,941 of a gigantic skimming operation, 864 00:48:18,983 --> 00:48:21,691 that there was cash and drugs hidden 865 00:48:21,733 --> 00:48:24,775 at Studio 54. 866 00:48:24,816 --> 00:48:27,441 One of the cleaning guys called me and said, 867 00:48:27,483 --> 00:48:30,483 "There's some guys here, and they have warrants." 868 00:48:30,525 --> 00:48:32,525 So I called Steve. 869 00:48:32,566 --> 00:48:34,441 Steve said there were some Quaaludes in the safe, 870 00:48:34,483 --> 00:48:36,608 and if I can run over and see if I can get them out. 871 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,360 But I ran into the Feds 872 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,983 while I was in the basement, 873 00:48:42,025 --> 00:48:44,150 and they said, "Are you the manager?" 874 00:48:44,191 --> 00:48:47,483 I said, "Yeah." And they said, "Well, come on, open the safe." 875 00:48:48,816 --> 00:48:51,108 27-42-37, da, da, da. 876 00:48:51,150 --> 00:48:52,900 Two this way, one this way, one this way. 877 00:48:52,941 --> 00:48:54,400 Clink, ploomp, and open. 878 00:48:54,441 --> 00:48:55,775 They said, "Is this everything?" 879 00:48:55,816 --> 00:48:57,108 And that's when I said, 880 00:48:57,150 --> 00:48:58,318 "Well, there's a couple of boxes 881 00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,276 up above here too." 882 00:49:03,650 --> 00:49:05,400 First of all, I tried to open the door, 883 00:49:05,441 --> 00:49:06,608 and somebody pulled it back 884 00:49:06,650 --> 00:49:08,525 because they were already in here. 885 00:49:08,566 --> 00:49:10,191 Yeah. 886 00:49:10,233 --> 00:49:12,233 So I put my key in and tried to open it. 887 00:49:12,276 --> 00:49:16,025 Then they pulled it back. And then eventually, 888 00:49:16,066 --> 00:49:18,941 the federal marshal, whatever, just opened it. 889 00:49:18,983 --> 00:49:20,816 This is 9:00 in the morning, by the way. 890 00:49:20,858 --> 00:49:23,566 Federal marshal opened it and said something... 891 00:49:23,608 --> 00:49:25,525 "Do you wanna come in, do you not wanna come in?" 892 00:49:27,941 --> 00:49:31,108 So I came in. I had all my papers with me like I normally have. 893 00:49:31,150 --> 00:49:34,983 I put them down on the floor, then I walked in. 894 00:49:35,025 --> 00:49:37,775 Ian Schrager, one of the owners of Studio 54, 895 00:49:37,816 --> 00:49:39,566 entered the club some time later, 896 00:49:39,608 --> 00:49:40,858 and agents say 897 00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:42,733 that among his records they found cocaine. 898 00:49:44,441 --> 00:49:46,816 It wasn't in my books. It was around my books. 899 00:49:46,858 --> 00:49:49,066 And then they came in. I put my books on the floor. 900 00:49:49,108 --> 00:49:51,150 Maybe it was left from the night before. Who knows? 901 00:49:53,025 --> 00:49:54,608 The field test kit 902 00:49:54,650 --> 00:49:57,025 showed positive presence of cocaine. 903 00:49:57,066 --> 00:49:58,483 Not only was it positive, 904 00:49:58,525 --> 00:50:00,525 the thing was off the charts, pure. 905 00:50:00,566 --> 00:50:02,525 It looked like it had been cut right off the key, 906 00:50:02,566 --> 00:50:04,566 as they say in the narcotics business. 907 00:50:04,608 --> 00:50:08,191 If you're going to walk onto the premises 908 00:50:08,233 --> 00:50:11,150 that are being searched by 50 IRS agents, 909 00:50:11,191 --> 00:50:12,983 with cocaine under your arms, 910 00:50:13,025 --> 00:50:14,691 don't walk in. 911 00:50:20,566 --> 00:50:22,608 -I was arrested, and 912 00:50:22,650 --> 00:50:25,318 my first call was to Roy Cohn's office. 913 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,276 And he came down immediately 914 00:50:29,318 --> 00:50:31,318 and advised us 915 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,441 to overturn all the furniture in the office 916 00:50:33,483 --> 00:50:36,318 and make it look like the agent 917 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,858 turned everything upside down, like a Gestapo. 918 00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:42,483 They even ruined my birthday presents. 919 00:50:45,276 --> 00:50:46,525 And it got everybody 920 00:50:46,566 --> 00:50:47,941 even more pissed off at us 921 00:50:47,983 --> 00:50:49,276 because it wasn't true, 922 00:50:49,318 --> 00:50:51,191 and they said they were very careful 923 00:50:51,233 --> 00:50:54,691 to keep everything very neat. 924 00:50:54,733 --> 00:50:56,441 That kind of started 925 00:50:56,483 --> 00:50:58,483 the litany of mistakes we made in this thing 926 00:50:58,525 --> 00:51:00,233 because that made the front page 927 00:51:00,276 --> 00:51:01,733 of the Daily News. 928 00:51:03,691 --> 00:51:06,276 I don't think we realized 929 00:51:06,318 --> 00:51:08,941 the, uh, the seriousness 930 00:51:08,983 --> 00:51:11,858 of, uh, of what we got ourselves involved with 931 00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:14,025 because we're getting away with everything. 932 00:51:14,066 --> 00:51:16,233 And they were interviewing Ian. 933 00:51:16,276 --> 00:51:20,233 Ian was sitting in a chair with the chair turned around, 934 00:51:20,276 --> 00:51:22,191 leaning on it like this. 935 00:51:22,233 --> 00:51:24,025 Like, defiant. 936 00:51:24,066 --> 00:51:26,816 Kind of like, with, like, "Fuck you." 937 00:51:26,858 --> 00:51:29,360 You think he'd be scared, but he wasn't. 938 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,650 He was... He was pissed. 939 00:51:32,691 --> 00:51:34,941 Seven hours after the raid began, 940 00:51:34,983 --> 00:51:38,360 co-owner Steve Rubell emerged with lawyer Roy Cohn, 941 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,233 -who blasted the IRS. -...publicity stunt... 942 00:51:41,276 --> 00:51:44,360 Well, you tell me one other instance in American history 943 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,483 when 23 Internal Revenue Agents 944 00:51:46,525 --> 00:51:48,525 at the beginning of an investigation, 945 00:51:48,566 --> 00:51:51,900 before they even go to a company's accountants or lawyers, 946 00:51:51,941 --> 00:51:53,983 come in and raid a place, 947 00:51:54,025 --> 00:51:57,108 tear it to pieces, open up everything in sight... 948 00:51:57,150 --> 00:51:59,858 Uh, if that's ever happened before in America, I've never seen it. 949 00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:01,066 But what was it? Was it cocaine? 950 00:52:01,108 --> 00:52:02,276 What does it look like inside right now? 951 00:52:02,318 --> 00:52:04,566 It was not in his briefcase. 952 00:52:04,608 --> 00:52:07,066 They do not allege it was in his briefcase. 953 00:52:07,108 --> 00:52:09,858 I've read the complaint, and I was in court, and you weren't. 954 00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:12,733 -Steve, what does it look like inside? -Wait a minute. 955 00:52:12,775 --> 00:52:15,483 We have to fight to get a lawyer into this place. 956 00:52:15,525 --> 00:52:17,400 I came in through the front door to get in. 957 00:52:17,441 --> 00:52:20,441 -The first time I had trouble getting in. 958 00:52:22,276 --> 00:52:23,858 One piece I billed him. 959 00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:26,108 -That's a piece... -One piece of the bill. Come on... 960 00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:27,983 Steve, what is the reaction... 961 00:52:28,025 --> 00:52:30,816 -What about the cocaine? -I don't know anything about that. 962 00:52:30,858 --> 00:52:32,276 I really don't know anything about that. 963 00:52:32,318 --> 00:52:33,858 Are there any other drugs on the premises? 964 00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:35,608 I don't know anything about any other drugs. 965 00:52:35,650 --> 00:52:37,733 Did you know anything about drugs on the premises this time? 966 00:52:37,775 --> 00:52:40,025 No, I didn't. Absolutely not. 967 00:52:40,066 --> 00:52:41,441 What was your reaction when you heard 968 00:52:41,483 --> 00:52:44,191 that your partner had been arrested for cocaine? 969 00:52:44,233 --> 00:52:47,400 I-I-I'm very fond of Ian. 970 00:52:47,441 --> 00:52:50,025 We went to college together. We met in college. 971 00:52:50,066 --> 00:52:52,691 He's a good guy. And of course I was upset. 972 00:52:52,733 --> 00:52:55,150 Was coke use common at Studio 54? 973 00:52:55,191 --> 00:52:56,983 No, I like... What Roy said... 974 00:52:57,025 --> 00:52:58,483 I don't wanna really comment 975 00:52:58,525 --> 00:53:00,691 on anything to do with that legal case of it, 976 00:53:00,733 --> 00:53:02,025 but, uh, you know... 977 00:53:02,066 --> 00:53:04,108 -What? 978 00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:06,858 -Steve, look this way, please. Thank you. 979 00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:09,150 I feel like the president today. 980 00:53:15,276 --> 00:53:18,066 We had had every great lawyer 981 00:53:18,108 --> 00:53:19,608 working for us. 982 00:53:19,650 --> 00:53:22,233 You know, we had had one of the lawyers 983 00:53:22,276 --> 00:53:24,816 that had represented John Mitchell on Watergate. 984 00:53:24,858 --> 00:53:26,400 We had James Neal, 985 00:53:26,441 --> 00:53:29,233 who had sent Jimmy Hoffa to jail. 986 00:53:29,276 --> 00:53:32,566 We had had Arthur Liman. We had had Mitchell Rogovin, 987 00:53:32,608 --> 00:53:34,691 who was part of Arnold & Porter, 988 00:53:34,733 --> 00:53:35,983 where Abe Fortas came from, 989 00:53:36,025 --> 00:53:37,900 and he was a Supreme Court Justice. 990 00:53:37,941 --> 00:53:39,276 We'd circled the wagon, 991 00:53:39,318 --> 00:53:41,318 and we got ready to fight the government. 992 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,816 There are, incidentally, 37 lawyers 993 00:53:44,858 --> 00:53:47,360 working on behalf of Schrager and Rubell. 994 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,025 When they were raided, 995 00:53:50,066 --> 00:53:53,566 it was real Schadenfreude here in New York City. 996 00:53:53,608 --> 00:53:56,566 They'd finally got what was coming to them, people felt. 997 00:53:56,608 --> 00:53:58,691 They had their loyal friends, 998 00:53:58,733 --> 00:54:01,191 but nobody was running around with their head in their hands. 999 00:54:01,233 --> 00:54:03,900 "Oh, poor Steve Rubell, poor Ian Schrager"... 1000 00:54:03,941 --> 00:54:06,191 None of that happened. People kind of liked it. 1001 00:54:06,233 --> 00:54:09,276 And now, following up on the Studio 54 story, 1002 00:54:09,318 --> 00:54:11,525 is Weekend Update correspondent Laraine Newman 1003 00:54:11,566 --> 00:54:12,858 outside Studio 54. 1004 00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:14,400 -Laraine? -Thank you, Bill. 1005 00:54:14,441 --> 00:54:17,191 Standing next to me is Steve Rubell, 1006 00:54:17,233 --> 00:54:18,566 co-owner of the club. 1007 00:54:20,025 --> 00:54:22,276 Steve, what was your reaction 1008 00:54:22,318 --> 00:54:25,566 when you learned cocaine had been found here? 1009 00:54:25,608 --> 00:54:27,733 I was shocked. 1010 00:54:27,775 --> 00:54:30,941 It was more of, you know, 1011 00:54:30,983 --> 00:54:35,983 taking on the institution, taking on the system, 1012 00:54:36,025 --> 00:54:39,441 which was all part of the Studio 54 mystique. 1013 00:54:39,483 --> 00:54:41,400 And I think everybody rallied around, 1014 00:54:41,441 --> 00:54:43,150 and there was a party after that. 1015 00:54:45,233 --> 00:54:47,775 The notoriety was like a moth to a flame. 1016 00:54:47,816 --> 00:54:49,816 And everybody came, and it got even bigger. 1017 00:54:51,441 --> 00:54:54,566 Which controversy, uh, sometimes does. 1018 00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:11,608 A lot of people say, 1019 00:55:11,650 --> 00:55:13,691 "Well, Rubell was shooting off his mouth 1020 00:55:13,733 --> 00:55:15,941 about don't tell the IRS this 1021 00:55:15,983 --> 00:55:17,566 and don't tell the IRS that." 1022 00:55:17,608 --> 00:55:19,066 That was not it. 1023 00:55:19,108 --> 00:55:20,858 This case came about 1024 00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:24,858 strictly because, uh, an informant, who was 1025 00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:29,150 very unhappy with his treatment at Studio 54... 1026 00:55:30,816 --> 00:55:33,941 and knew where the records were kept. 1027 00:55:33,983 --> 00:55:37,400 The basement had a drop ceiling. 1028 00:55:37,441 --> 00:55:39,318 And if you remove the ceiling tiles, 1029 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,400 that's where we found the manila envelopes 1030 00:55:41,441 --> 00:55:43,900 that were, in effect, the second set of books. 1031 00:55:43,941 --> 00:55:46,525 Also, up there in garbage bags... 1032 00:55:46,566 --> 00:55:48,650 plastic garbage bags... there was cash. 1033 00:55:48,691 --> 00:55:51,066 Absolutely never any millions of dollars 1034 00:55:51,108 --> 00:55:53,318 in the ceiling of Studio 54. 1035 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,360 That's, uh, just folklore. 1036 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,941 They took down bags of cash, 1037 00:55:59,983 --> 00:56:02,691 which had been particularly described in the search warrant. 1038 00:56:02,733 --> 00:56:04,816 It was, like, five combinations, and you had to... 1039 00:56:04,858 --> 00:56:06,900 It's like, "Oh, man, this is a pain in the neck. 1040 00:56:06,941 --> 00:56:08,608 The guys are all dying for quarters, 1041 00:56:08,650 --> 00:56:09,900 so I'll keep the quarters up top." 1042 00:56:09,941 --> 00:56:11,691 That's as simple as it was. 1043 00:56:11,733 --> 00:56:14,525 That was the "money in the ceiling" story. 1044 00:56:23,191 --> 00:56:25,525 There was also cash 1045 00:56:25,566 --> 00:56:27,983 in a safe-deposit box that belonged to Steve Rubell 1046 00:56:28,025 --> 00:56:29,525 that we got a warrant for. 1047 00:56:29,566 --> 00:56:31,483 We drilled the box. We got cash out of there. 1048 00:56:31,525 --> 00:56:35,191 There was also cash in his apartment. 1049 00:56:35,233 --> 00:56:37,900 There were secret doors behind bookcases. 1050 00:56:37,941 --> 00:56:43,525 Steve had 900,000 in cash, 5s and 10s, stacked. 1051 00:56:43,566 --> 00:56:46,233 The Feds came, took all of that. 1052 00:56:46,276 --> 00:56:47,858 I was driving around 1053 00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:50,900 with $400,000 in the trunk of my car. 1054 00:56:50,941 --> 00:56:54,441 It could've been stolen. It could've been towed. 1055 00:56:54,483 --> 00:56:57,191 I mean, I was parking in garages. 1056 00:56:57,233 --> 00:56:58,775 It was ridiculous. 1057 00:57:03,066 --> 00:57:04,608 At Studio, 1058 00:57:04,650 --> 00:57:06,483 Steve's mother was the bookkeeper. 1059 00:57:06,525 --> 00:57:11,483 And Steve always had a budget for recreational drugs. 1060 00:57:11,525 --> 00:57:15,441 He would give them for free to certain people. 1061 00:57:15,483 --> 00:57:17,775 Steve's mother didn't know anything about the drugs 1062 00:57:17,816 --> 00:57:19,233 and what the codes were, 1063 00:57:19,276 --> 00:57:22,400 but she knew where every penny was going. 1064 00:57:22,441 --> 00:57:24,775 If there was $100 taken out 1065 00:57:24,816 --> 00:57:27,483 to get a celebrity a drug or whatever, 1066 00:57:27,525 --> 00:57:29,360 it was recorded as a "party favor." 1067 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,025 So it had everything in there. 1068 00:57:33,276 --> 00:57:35,108 There was one envelope. 1069 00:57:35,150 --> 00:57:38,400 On the outside of the envelope were three columns: 1070 00:57:38,441 --> 00:57:40,650 "Ian," "Steve" and "Jack." 1071 00:57:40,691 --> 00:57:43,441 And then there was a fourth column, 1072 00:57:43,483 --> 00:57:47,276 which was the total amount of the take for that night. 1073 00:57:47,318 --> 00:57:49,025 And then there was a fifth column 1074 00:57:49,066 --> 00:57:50,441 that was labeled "skim," 1075 00:57:50,483 --> 00:57:53,608 "S-K-I-M," or "SK." 1076 00:57:53,650 --> 00:57:56,816 So that you had a daily record 1077 00:57:56,858 --> 00:57:59,775 of everything that they took in 1078 00:57:59,816 --> 00:58:02,900 and what they took out as skim and didn't report. 1079 00:58:02,941 --> 00:58:05,233 Who created those books? 1080 00:58:08,983 --> 00:58:12,983 I didn't, uh, 'cause I wasn't the bookkeeper 1081 00:58:13,025 --> 00:58:15,318 or taking care of the books. 1082 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,233 But one of us did. I... I... 1083 00:58:18,276 --> 00:58:22,608 Who instructed that those books be created? 1084 00:58:22,650 --> 00:58:25,900 You know, I... I... I don't remember... 1085 00:58:27,983 --> 00:58:30,108 You sure you're not a prosecutor here? 1086 00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:32,360 I, um... 1087 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,983 You know, all I know was that I got the benefit of it, 1088 00:58:36,025 --> 00:58:39,900 and I was a co-conspirator, 1089 00:58:39,941 --> 00:58:43,318 and, you know... 1090 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,150 But, you know, the actual, you know, workings and all... 1091 00:58:46,191 --> 00:58:47,941 I don't... I don't know who did it. 1092 00:58:53,025 --> 00:58:55,483 In the 33 months that they were doing it, 1093 00:58:55,525 --> 00:58:57,441 I think there was skim of two and half 1094 00:58:57,483 --> 00:58:59,150 or three million dollars... 1095 00:58:59,191 --> 00:59:01,025 an astronomical amount to skim, 1096 00:59:01,066 --> 00:59:03,691 which was ridiculous. 1097 00:59:03,733 --> 00:59:07,483 I mean, if you're gonna skim, you know, skim 10% or twent... 1098 00:59:07,525 --> 00:59:09,233 You know, not 80%. 1099 00:59:09,276 --> 00:59:12,858 They were really, you know, pigs about it. 1100 00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:15,233 Well, this was the Richard Nixon of skims. 1101 00:59:15,276 --> 00:59:18,816 We just went way over and way beyond, you know, 1102 00:59:18,858 --> 00:59:23,733 anything that was even remotely possible to go unnoticed. 1103 00:59:25,441 --> 00:59:28,608 Steve Rubell and Ian Schrager 1104 00:59:28,650 --> 00:59:31,191 are totally and completely innocent 1105 00:59:31,233 --> 00:59:34,066 of this claim for additional taxes 1106 00:59:34,108 --> 00:59:37,858 or any kind of evasion of taxes. 1107 00:59:37,900 --> 00:59:40,775 Cohn charges there was only one partner to blame 1108 00:59:40,816 --> 00:59:42,525 for the troubles of Studio 54... 1109 00:59:42,566 --> 00:59:43,858 that's the man who keeps the books. 1110 00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:45,066 His name is Jack Dushey. 1111 00:59:45,108 --> 00:59:46,608 He secretly pleaded guilty 1112 00:59:46,650 --> 00:59:47,900 to charges last week, 1113 00:59:47,941 --> 00:59:49,150 and he now faces 1114 00:59:49,191 --> 00:59:51,360 up to five years in prison. 1115 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,858 Jack Dushey agreed to cooperate and to testify 1116 00:59:55,900 --> 00:59:59,066 against Rubell and Schrager in the grand jury 1117 00:59:59,108 --> 01:00:03,525 and at the trial, if one was necessary. 1118 01:00:05,733 --> 01:00:09,233 What happened wasn't his fault. 1119 01:00:09,276 --> 01:00:12,150 He had a whole family. He would've never done it. 1120 01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:16,360 -I never asked him that. -No. 1121 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,360 But that's what I've, uh, always felt. 1122 01:00:21,276 --> 01:00:22,900 Were you... Jack, were you resentful... 1123 01:00:22,941 --> 01:00:24,276 It was very difficult 1124 01:00:24,318 --> 01:00:28,400 to put reins on the success, you know? 1125 01:00:28,441 --> 01:00:31,233 Who am I? First of all, I was older than them. 1126 01:00:31,276 --> 01:00:34,025 And, you know, I didn't need the money. 1127 01:00:34,066 --> 01:00:37,733 I wasn't doing it for the money. But, uh, 1128 01:00:37,775 --> 01:00:40,441 this was an overwhelming success, 1129 01:00:40,483 --> 01:00:45,441 so I wasn't about to try to harness them. 1130 01:00:45,483 --> 01:00:49,191 And, you know, you know, we all paid the price. 1131 01:00:51,941 --> 01:00:53,733 I mean, but did you know 1132 01:00:53,775 --> 01:00:57,066 what was going on in the counting house? 1133 01:00:57,108 --> 01:00:59,775 Oh, I was right in the middle of it. 1134 01:00:59,816 --> 01:01:02,066 Yeah, I was right in the middle of it. 1135 01:01:04,025 --> 01:01:08,691 I was just as culpable as, you know, Steve and Ian. 1136 01:01:10,276 --> 01:01:12,441 But you seem so level-headed. 1137 01:01:12,483 --> 01:01:15,318 Why do you think you let that happen? 1138 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,191 Oh, the success. 1139 01:01:17,233 --> 01:01:19,318 -The success went to everybody's head. - Yeah. 1140 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,816 I was assigned 1141 01:01:27,858 --> 01:01:30,941 to the Organized Crime Strike Force, 1142 01:01:30,983 --> 01:01:33,983 which deals mostly with organized crime. 1143 01:01:34,025 --> 01:01:37,525 In particular, at that time, the Italian Mafia. 1144 01:01:37,566 --> 01:01:39,650 The Studio 54 case... 1145 01:01:39,691 --> 01:01:42,691 there was a supposed connection 1146 01:01:42,733 --> 01:01:45,983 to organized crime through Ian Schrager, 1147 01:01:46,025 --> 01:01:50,025 whose father was Louis Schrager, 1148 01:01:50,066 --> 01:01:54,150 also colloquially known as Max the Jew. 1149 01:01:56,233 --> 01:01:59,191 I've always heard all these things 1150 01:01:59,233 --> 01:02:01,608 about my father in the newspapers, 1151 01:02:01,650 --> 01:02:04,566 and I didn't really know anything about it. 1152 01:02:04,608 --> 01:02:06,360 I idolized my father. 1153 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,691 I knew he was different than other fathers, 1154 01:02:09,733 --> 01:02:11,983 you know, with his hours of work, 1155 01:02:12,025 --> 01:02:13,483 and I was always concerned 1156 01:02:13,525 --> 01:02:15,941 that that would be a problem for me. 1157 01:02:15,983 --> 01:02:18,816 I was always very sensitive to that. 1158 01:02:18,858 --> 01:02:22,191 Louis Schrager, who had died at the time, 1159 01:02:22,233 --> 01:02:25,108 was an old Meyer Lansky associate. 1160 01:02:27,276 --> 01:02:29,691 But we never found any evidence 1161 01:02:29,733 --> 01:02:33,816 that Studio 54 had a Mafia link. 1162 01:02:33,858 --> 01:02:35,816 I definitely think that Ian 1163 01:02:35,858 --> 01:02:38,650 didn't want any part of his father's business 1164 01:02:38,691 --> 01:02:40,691 or connections or anything. 1165 01:02:40,733 --> 01:02:43,525 I mean, his father was successful at what he did. 1166 01:02:43,566 --> 01:02:45,691 His father had power. 1167 01:02:45,733 --> 01:02:48,483 And I think that Ian wanted power 1168 01:02:48,525 --> 01:02:52,025 and success in a different area. 1169 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,276 The three owners and the manager of the Studio 54 disco 1170 01:02:58,318 --> 01:03:00,775 were indicted today on charges of income tax evasion. 1171 01:03:00,816 --> 01:03:02,191 Steve Rubell and Ian Schrager 1172 01:03:02,233 --> 01:03:04,150 were slapped with a 12-count indictment... 1173 01:03:04,191 --> 01:03:06,025 Now Ian Schrager and Steve Rubell 1174 01:03:06,066 --> 01:03:07,983 face up to ten years in prison 1175 01:03:08,025 --> 01:03:10,318 and fines up to $20,000. 1176 01:03:12,650 --> 01:03:15,900 They had this ball of fire 1177 01:03:15,941 --> 01:03:19,276 that nobody in the world had. 1178 01:03:19,318 --> 01:03:20,858 They had this... this thing 1179 01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:23,441 that was worldwide popular 1180 01:03:23,483 --> 01:03:25,691 that had fallen into their laps, 1181 01:03:25,733 --> 01:03:27,775 and I don't think they wanted to lose that. 1182 01:03:30,775 --> 01:03:32,360 During one of the meetings, 1183 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,360 the lawyers kept saying, "Well, you know, 1184 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,441 you have to try and trade something." 1185 01:03:37,691 --> 01:03:39,525 It was August 25th. 1186 01:03:39,566 --> 01:03:41,608 I remember Steve telling me, 1187 01:03:41,650 --> 01:03:43,525 "I hope there's a war in Iran." 1188 01:03:43,566 --> 01:03:45,858 I said, "What are you talking about?" He said, "I just don't... 1189 01:03:45,900 --> 01:03:47,525 "There's a story that's gonna break, 1190 01:03:47,566 --> 01:03:49,400 and I just don't want it to be big." 1191 01:03:49,441 --> 01:03:51,025 The Justice Department 1192 01:03:51,066 --> 01:03:53,400 is investigating an allegation 1193 01:03:53,441 --> 01:03:56,941 that White House Chief of Staff Hamilton Jordan used cocaine 1194 01:03:56,983 --> 01:04:00,360 during a visit to New York's Studio 54 discotheque last year. 1195 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,233 The White House flatly denies the allegations, 1196 01:04:03,276 --> 01:04:05,691 saying the people making them have a clear interest 1197 01:04:05,733 --> 01:04:08,025 in making false and sensational charges 1198 01:04:08,066 --> 01:04:10,608 so they can bargain for lighter sentences. 1199 01:04:13,900 --> 01:04:16,608 To accuse the White House Chief of Staff 1200 01:04:16,650 --> 01:04:18,150 of asking to buy cocaine 1201 01:04:18,191 --> 01:04:20,441 in the basement of Studio 54... 1202 01:04:20,483 --> 01:04:22,066 I mean, didn't Steve realize 1203 01:04:22,108 --> 01:04:24,816 he now is gonna have the White House against him? 1204 01:04:24,858 --> 01:04:28,691 I thought Steve better be really careful. 1205 01:04:28,733 --> 01:04:31,525 These people are powerful. He doesn't have any power. 1206 01:04:31,566 --> 01:04:34,650 He's a nightlife person. His power is among celebrities, 1207 01:04:34,691 --> 01:04:36,983 it's not among the politicos. 1208 01:04:37,025 --> 01:04:40,900 He definitely messed with the wrong people. 1209 01:04:40,941 --> 01:04:43,276 President Carter's comment about Jordan was 1210 01:04:43,318 --> 01:04:44,608 "He will tell the truth, 1211 01:04:44,650 --> 01:04:46,441 as my wife would or my children." 1212 01:04:46,483 --> 01:04:48,360 While the Justice Department 1213 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,191 would not ordinarily pursue a case 1214 01:04:50,233 --> 01:04:52,191 involving individual use of the drug, 1215 01:04:52,233 --> 01:04:54,191 it's compelled to do so on this case 1216 01:04:54,233 --> 01:04:56,983 because of a new law called the Ethics in Government Act. 1217 01:04:57,025 --> 01:04:59,816 That law grew out of the Watergate scandals. 1218 01:04:59,858 --> 01:05:03,525 It requires an investigation of up to 90 days by the FBI 1219 01:05:03,566 --> 01:05:05,150 when criminal allegations are made 1220 01:05:05,191 --> 01:05:07,360 against high-ranking government officials. 1221 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,441 One of the lawyers, Mitchell Rogovin, 1222 01:05:09,483 --> 01:05:11,608 made a really fatal mistake 1223 01:05:11,650 --> 01:05:13,650 and hurt us. 1224 01:05:13,691 --> 01:05:16,191 He didn't understand 1225 01:05:16,233 --> 01:05:19,066 how Watergate changed the law. 1226 01:05:19,108 --> 01:05:21,150 It became very public. 1227 01:05:21,191 --> 01:05:25,108 The train left the station and took a life of its own. 1228 01:05:25,150 --> 01:05:26,900 There was no turning back. 1229 01:05:26,941 --> 01:05:28,566 You saw, with your own eyes, 1230 01:05:28,608 --> 01:05:30,150 Hamilton Jordan use cocaine? 1231 01:05:30,191 --> 01:05:31,233 Yes. 1232 01:05:31,276 --> 01:05:32,400 -No question? -No question. 1233 01:05:32,441 --> 01:05:33,858 -No mistake? -No. 1234 01:05:36,691 --> 01:05:38,150 We didn't realize the magnitude 1235 01:05:38,191 --> 01:05:39,900 of what was going on. 1236 01:05:39,941 --> 01:05:41,025 We had this thing of, you know, 1237 01:05:41,066 --> 01:05:42,441 "We'll get out of it. 1238 01:05:42,483 --> 01:05:44,483 "You know, we got Roy there, but, you know, 1239 01:05:44,525 --> 01:05:47,691 we'll figure out a way and get a way out of it." 1240 01:05:47,733 --> 01:05:53,233 We even went and did a major renovation in the club, 1241 01:05:53,276 --> 01:05:56,150 like a signal to everyone... it's gonna be fine. 1242 01:05:59,108 --> 01:06:00,858 What do you do 1243 01:06:00,900 --> 01:06:02,608 when you're under indictment for tax evasion 1244 01:06:02,650 --> 01:06:04,650 and fighting Hamilton Jordan in your spare time? 1245 01:06:04,691 --> 01:06:06,108 Well, you can create a new image... 1246 01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:07,858 architecturally, at least. 1247 01:06:07,900 --> 01:06:09,900 600 workers on round-the-clock shifts 1248 01:06:09,941 --> 01:06:11,608 have been laboring since last Wednesday to put it all together, 1249 01:06:11,650 --> 01:06:13,233 and when they're finished, 1250 01:06:13,276 --> 01:06:16,025 it's expected to cost $1 1/2 million... 1251 01:06:16,066 --> 01:06:17,483 three times what it cost 1252 01:06:17,525 --> 01:06:19,066 to open Studio 54 three years ago. 1253 01:06:19,108 --> 01:06:21,318 ♪ More, more, more ♪ 1254 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,775 ♪ How do you like it, how do you like it? ♪ 1255 01:06:23,816 --> 01:06:25,900 ♪ More, more, more ♪ 1256 01:06:25,941 --> 01:06:28,441 ♪ How do you like it, how do you like it? ♪ 1257 01:06:28,483 --> 01:06:30,983 Ian had all these magical ideas. 1258 01:06:31,025 --> 01:06:32,691 He'd seen Sweeney Todd, 1259 01:06:32,733 --> 01:06:34,983 and he got this idea to do a bridge. 1260 01:06:35,025 --> 01:06:36,650 Tired of fighting your way 1261 01:06:36,691 --> 01:06:38,276 through the crowded dance floor? 1262 01:06:38,318 --> 01:06:39,650 Well, this moving bridge 1263 01:06:39,691 --> 01:06:41,150 ought to be able to solve that problem. 1264 01:06:41,191 --> 01:06:43,108 It can carry 25 tons in weight 1265 01:06:43,150 --> 01:06:45,360 and will be able to move 250 people 1266 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:46,733 over the heads of the dancers 1267 01:06:46,775 --> 01:06:48,066 to the other side of the room 1268 01:06:48,108 --> 01:06:49,483 or to the balcony 1269 01:06:49,525 --> 01:06:52,233 at the speed of 45 feet a minute. 1270 01:06:52,276 --> 01:06:53,858 Of course, the story goes 1271 01:06:53,900 --> 01:06:55,566 that they had to cover the balcony 1272 01:06:55,608 --> 01:06:58,816 in rubber so they could wash it down more easily. 1273 01:06:58,858 --> 01:07:01,650 Were you aware that you were creating a sex pit? 1274 01:07:01,691 --> 01:07:03,650 ♪...how I really feel? ♪ 1275 01:07:03,691 --> 01:07:04,941 ♪ Just get the cameras rolling... ♪ 1276 01:07:04,983 --> 01:07:06,108 Yes. 1277 01:07:08,691 --> 01:07:10,816 ♪ More, more, more ♪ 1278 01:07:10,858 --> 01:07:13,360 ♪ How do you like it, how do you like it? ♪ 1279 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,400 ♪ More, more, more ♪ 1280 01:07:15,441 --> 01:07:17,483 ♪ How do you like it, how do you like it? ♪ 1281 01:07:17,525 --> 01:07:20,566 I love Studio 54 so much, and I thank you 1282 01:07:20,608 --> 01:07:23,025 for making all my evenings a lot more fun. 1283 01:07:23,066 --> 01:07:24,858 Ah, what can I say? 1284 01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:26,318 Oh, just say "thank you." 1285 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,318 Plead guilty to charges of flattery. 1286 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,941 I don't plead guilty to any charges. 1287 01:07:33,191 --> 01:07:34,691 Two owners 1288 01:07:34,733 --> 01:07:37,691 of the trendy Manhattan discotheque Studio 54 1289 01:07:37,733 --> 01:07:39,858 pleaded guilty today of defrauding the government 1290 01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:42,733 of more than $400,000 in taxes. 1291 01:07:42,775 --> 01:07:45,483 Today, Rubell and his partner Ian Schrager 1292 01:07:45,525 --> 01:07:47,900 were charged with skimming $2 1/2 million 1293 01:07:47,941 --> 01:07:49,650 from the receipts of Studio 54 1294 01:07:49,691 --> 01:07:51,066 and lying about it. 1295 01:07:51,108 --> 01:07:52,733 12 counts in all. 1296 01:07:52,775 --> 01:07:55,108 They admitted to two counts of tax evasion. 1297 01:07:55,150 --> 01:07:57,858 The government dropped the rest. 1298 01:07:57,900 --> 01:08:00,483 We didn't want to plead guilty to a felony 1299 01:08:00,525 --> 01:08:02,733 because you can't have a liquor license 1300 01:08:02,775 --> 01:08:04,691 if you're convicted of a felony. 1301 01:08:04,733 --> 01:08:07,150 So this whole thing was to protect Studio, 1302 01:08:07,191 --> 01:08:10,108 but it just got out of control. 1303 01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:11,816 We were out of our league, 1304 01:08:11,858 --> 01:08:14,691 and we were forced to plea to a felony. 1305 01:08:14,733 --> 01:08:17,691 -Come on down a little bit. 1306 01:08:17,733 --> 01:08:19,525 Well, Roy, did anything go wrong 1307 01:08:19,566 --> 01:08:21,983 with the plea bargaining? 1308 01:08:22,025 --> 01:08:25,066 Listen, when you have about 37 lawyers 1309 01:08:25,108 --> 01:08:26,691 involved in anything, 1310 01:08:26,733 --> 01:08:30,318 uh, something's always gonna go wrong. 1311 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,276 -Steven... -What made you do it? 1312 01:08:32,318 --> 01:08:34,025 Was it greed? 1313 01:08:34,066 --> 01:08:35,775 -Too much money too fast? -No. 1314 01:08:35,816 --> 01:08:37,483 I made a mistake. Did you ever make a mistake? 1315 01:08:37,525 --> 01:08:39,108 Why did you make that kind of mistake? 1316 01:08:39,150 --> 01:08:40,941 Are you and Schrager still friendly after this? 1317 01:08:40,983 --> 01:08:44,191 He's my best friend. I love him dearly. 1318 01:08:47,691 --> 01:08:49,150 When we got in trouble, 1319 01:08:49,191 --> 01:08:50,441 the press, 1320 01:08:50,483 --> 01:08:52,108 you know, turned on us. 1321 01:08:53,691 --> 01:08:55,400 It was the first time, 1322 01:08:55,441 --> 01:08:56,983 you know, in my life and in Steve's life, 1323 01:08:57,025 --> 01:08:58,733 we couldn't talk our way out of it. 1324 01:08:58,775 --> 01:09:00,276 It was like we couldn't shake it. 1325 01:09:02,276 --> 01:09:04,858 Things seemed to be closing in on us. 1326 01:09:07,233 --> 01:09:08,941 When you go through something like that, 1327 01:09:08,983 --> 01:09:13,400 uh, it either makes you closer and stronger, 1328 01:09:13,441 --> 01:09:15,400 or it tears you apart. 1329 01:09:15,441 --> 01:09:17,816 In our case, it made us stronger. 1330 01:09:20,108 --> 01:09:22,733 We rose and fell together. 1331 01:09:26,691 --> 01:09:28,233 A federal judge today 1332 01:09:28,276 --> 01:09:30,691 sentenced Steven Rubell and Ian Schrager, 1333 01:09:30,733 --> 01:09:33,775 owners of the New York discotheque Studio 54, 1334 01:09:33,816 --> 01:09:35,775 to three and a half years in prison 1335 01:09:35,816 --> 01:09:38,608 for evading almost half a million dollars in income taxes. 1336 01:09:38,650 --> 01:09:42,900 He also fined each man $20,000. 1337 01:09:42,941 --> 01:09:46,441 It didn't hit me. You know? 1338 01:09:46,483 --> 01:09:50,858 There was a complete emotional detachment. 1339 01:09:50,900 --> 01:09:53,276 I was numb. 1340 01:09:53,318 --> 01:09:55,441 Our life was over, 1341 01:09:55,483 --> 01:09:56,900 and we didn't even know. 1342 01:10:03,858 --> 01:10:07,108 The party, the night before they went to jail, 1343 01:10:07,150 --> 01:10:10,608 was probably as exciting 1344 01:10:10,650 --> 01:10:13,318 and as much fun as the opening party, 1345 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,233 -It may have been more fun. 1346 01:10:19,608 --> 01:10:21,566 Andy Warhol as there, 1347 01:10:21,608 --> 01:10:23,191 Calvin Klein. 1348 01:10:23,233 --> 01:10:25,025 Diana Ross sang. 1349 01:10:25,066 --> 01:10:27,108 Liza Minnelli sang, too. 1350 01:10:30,566 --> 01:10:33,318 What I distinctly remember, Steve was wearing, like, 1351 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,400 a Frank Sinatra hat, 1352 01:10:35,441 --> 01:10:37,483 and they played "I Did it My Way." 1353 01:10:37,525 --> 01:10:39,108 "My Way"... 1354 01:10:39,150 --> 01:10:41,360 What does that mean, "my way"? 1355 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,318 When I look back at it now, it is so preposterous. 1356 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:49,400 -What were we thinking? ♪ Don't leave me this way ♪ 1357 01:10:49,441 --> 01:10:51,276 ♪ Ahh ♪ 1358 01:10:51,318 --> 01:10:53,191 ♪ Baby ♪ 1359 01:10:53,233 --> 01:10:57,233 ♪ My heart is full of love and desire for you ♪ 1360 01:10:57,276 --> 01:11:00,858 ♪ Now come on down and do what you gotta do ♪ 1361 01:11:00,900 --> 01:11:04,733 That night, the music was still intense, 1362 01:11:04,775 --> 01:11:06,858 the dancing was still intense, 1363 01:11:06,900 --> 01:11:09,276 and it was fabulous. 1364 01:11:09,318 --> 01:11:11,191 ♪ Come on, satisfy the need in me ♪ 1365 01:11:11,233 --> 01:11:13,191 Partying that night, I remember 1366 01:11:13,233 --> 01:11:14,733 all I wanted to do was dance. 1367 01:11:14,775 --> 01:11:16,650 And I was so high on drugs, 1368 01:11:16,691 --> 01:11:19,360 I really didn't realize what was going on. 1369 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,941 I mean, I didn't think the party was gonna end. 1370 01:11:21,983 --> 01:11:24,441 ♪ Ohh, baby ♪ 1371 01:11:24,483 --> 01:11:26,108 That feeling of invincibility 1372 01:11:26,150 --> 01:11:28,108 permeated the whole process. 1373 01:11:28,150 --> 01:11:30,566 ♪ Don't leave me this way ♪ 1374 01:11:30,608 --> 01:11:32,360 ♪ Don't leave me this way, no ♪ 1375 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,318 ♪ Don't leave me this way, no ♪ 1376 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,191 ♪ Don't leave me this way, baby ♪ 1377 01:11:36,233 --> 01:11:38,066 ♪ Don't leave me ♪ 1378 01:11:38,108 --> 01:11:40,066 ♪ Don't leave me this way, baby ♪ 1379 01:11:40,108 --> 01:11:42,066 It was enormous denial, 1380 01:11:42,108 --> 01:11:43,525 you know, from beginning to end. 1381 01:11:45,608 --> 01:11:47,360 I'm not sure I would've made a party 1382 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,983 to celebrate the fact I'm going to jail the next day. 1383 01:11:51,025 --> 01:11:53,483 I don't think they prepared at all, 1384 01:11:53,525 --> 01:11:56,318 and I think it was the actual going to jail 1385 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,608 was just a terrific shock for them. 1386 01:11:59,650 --> 01:12:01,483 Stand right there. Thank you. 1387 01:12:01,525 --> 01:12:02,775 The owners of New York's 1388 01:12:02,816 --> 01:12:04,691 flashy discotheque Studio 54 1389 01:12:04,733 --> 01:12:06,816 surrendered to federal authorities today. 1390 01:12:06,858 --> 01:12:08,608 They reported this morning 1391 01:12:08,650 --> 01:12:10,900 at the Federal Metropolitan Correctional Center. 1392 01:12:10,941 --> 01:12:12,650 Meanwhile, the State Liquor Authority 1393 01:12:12,691 --> 01:12:14,983 has filed seven charges against the disco. 1394 01:12:25,566 --> 01:12:27,733 What was that first night like 1395 01:12:27,775 --> 01:12:29,566 at the Metropolitan House of Corrections 1396 01:12:29,608 --> 01:12:30,983 here in New York City? 1397 01:12:31,025 --> 01:12:33,733 Well, uh, the doors closed, 1398 01:12:33,775 --> 01:12:35,900 and when those doors close, 1399 01:12:35,941 --> 01:12:37,983 it's amazing how quickly 1400 01:12:38,025 --> 01:12:42,941 you, um, just realize you lost your freedom. 1401 01:12:42,983 --> 01:12:45,400 There's nothing worse in the world. 1402 01:12:45,441 --> 01:12:46,775 We didn't share a cell. 1403 01:12:46,816 --> 01:12:48,983 We were in the same jail. 1404 01:12:49,025 --> 01:12:52,400 And that's something that we both wanted, obviously. 1405 01:12:52,441 --> 01:12:55,108 We couldn't guarantee that. 1406 01:12:55,150 --> 01:12:57,691 I don't know what it would've been if I didn't have the benefit of having Steve there. 1407 01:12:57,733 --> 01:13:00,400 We were treated just like everybody else, not unfairly. 1408 01:13:00,441 --> 01:13:02,318 -They didn't care that you were with Liza... -No. 1409 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,733 ...and Bianca and all those stars? -Oh, that's another world. 1410 01:13:04,775 --> 01:13:06,566 It's how it is. You just have to learn 1411 01:13:06,608 --> 01:13:08,816 to keep your mouth shut and not say a world. 1412 01:13:08,858 --> 01:13:12,150 If you say a word, you're, uh... you're dead. 1413 01:13:12,191 --> 01:13:17,525 There was a guy that lived across the hall from me 1414 01:13:17,566 --> 01:13:21,566 and who had killed somebody with a bowling ball. 1415 01:13:21,608 --> 01:13:23,608 Um, and so I right away thought 1416 01:13:23,650 --> 01:13:26,066 that was a good guy to get friendly with. 1417 01:13:26,108 --> 01:13:28,233 I made a deal with him 1418 01:13:28,276 --> 01:13:31,900 that we would give his wife money on the outside 1419 01:13:31,941 --> 01:13:33,816 and he would protect us. 1420 01:13:35,858 --> 01:13:38,691 You know, it was just a base instinct 1421 01:13:38,733 --> 01:13:40,816 to survive in... in there. 1422 01:13:45,108 --> 01:13:46,941 After they went to jail, 1423 01:13:46,983 --> 01:13:48,441 we had another couple of months. 1424 01:13:48,483 --> 01:13:50,150 But it was never the same after, you know... 1425 01:13:50,191 --> 01:13:51,816 without Steve and Ian. 1426 01:13:51,858 --> 01:13:53,691 And then, when we lost the liquor license, 1427 01:13:53,733 --> 01:13:56,525 there wasn't much we could do. 1428 01:13:56,566 --> 01:13:58,941 It was in prison 1429 01:13:58,983 --> 01:14:02,233 that, uh, you know, we sold Studio 54. 1430 01:14:02,276 --> 01:14:06,441 And I was negotiating the contract, 1431 01:14:06,483 --> 01:14:08,816 and that kept my sanity. 1432 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,900 But selling Studio 1433 01:14:12,941 --> 01:14:15,318 was the hardest thing I ever had to do. 1434 01:14:49,066 --> 01:14:50,525 The whole thing, 1435 01:14:50,566 --> 01:14:52,858 it was like a vortex of, you know... 1436 01:14:52,900 --> 01:14:55,983 It was all just going down the tubes, 1437 01:14:56,025 --> 01:14:58,025 and everybody just faded back 1438 01:14:58,066 --> 01:14:59,525 to where they came from. 1439 01:15:01,441 --> 01:15:03,483 You really feel like all these people 1440 01:15:03,525 --> 01:15:05,360 are really gonna be your friends for life. 1441 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,900 They love you. And then you really find out, 1442 01:15:07,941 --> 01:15:09,191 well, that's really not the case 1443 01:15:09,233 --> 01:15:10,360 at all, you know? 1444 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:11,608 The phone calls stop coming. 1445 01:15:11,650 --> 01:15:13,108 The, you know, the, uh, 1446 01:15:13,150 --> 01:15:16,108 the invitations to great parties stop coming. 1447 01:15:16,150 --> 01:15:18,566 All those things just stop, and that was, uh, 1448 01:15:18,608 --> 01:15:22,066 that was, uh, that was a rude awakening for me. 1449 01:15:25,108 --> 01:15:27,108 The disco era was over. 1450 01:15:28,941 --> 01:15:30,441 Disco music became a joke. 1451 01:15:32,983 --> 01:15:36,108 It was billed as Teen Night at Comiskey Park. 1452 01:15:36,150 --> 01:15:39,318 The feature attraction was a disc demolition between games. 1453 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,483 Local radio morning man Steve Dahl 1454 01:15:41,525 --> 01:15:42,983 is to lead the crowd in song, 1455 01:15:43,025 --> 01:15:44,566 and then finish by blowing up a box 1456 01:15:44,608 --> 01:15:45,941 full of disco records 1457 01:15:45,983 --> 01:15:47,441 which the fans were to bring with them 1458 01:15:47,483 --> 01:15:49,025 to the ballpark. 1459 01:15:52,858 --> 01:15:55,360 "Disco Sucks" was almost a backlash 1460 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,191 against Studio 54, in a way. 1461 01:15:57,233 --> 01:16:01,941 You think about the economic situation in America. 1462 01:16:01,983 --> 01:16:04,775 It was the worst financial recession 1463 01:16:04,816 --> 01:16:06,816 since the Great Depression. 1464 01:16:06,858 --> 01:16:09,066 And you think about what Studio 54 1465 01:16:09,108 --> 01:16:11,191 and what disco life looked like 1466 01:16:11,233 --> 01:16:13,775 to somebody working in the Midwest 1467 01:16:13,816 --> 01:16:16,900 who had now lost their job and is never coming back. 1468 01:16:16,941 --> 01:16:19,276 You know, you blame it on all these people. 1469 01:16:19,318 --> 01:16:20,941 You blame it on gay people, 1470 01:16:20,983 --> 01:16:22,858 you blame it on black people, you blame it on women. 1471 01:16:24,816 --> 01:16:29,691 There was this ground-swelling resentment. 1472 01:16:29,733 --> 01:16:31,525 People, you know, 1473 01:16:31,566 --> 01:16:32,900 were pissed off. 1474 01:16:34,276 --> 01:16:36,233 We upset the status quo. 1475 01:16:36,276 --> 01:16:38,691 We knew Rubell and Schrager could help us 1476 01:16:49,066 --> 01:16:52,150 and could give us more income tax evasion cases 1477 01:16:52,191 --> 01:16:54,816 against other people that they knew 1478 01:16:54,858 --> 01:16:56,441 who were doing the same thing. 1479 01:16:58,691 --> 01:17:03,650 So we devised the great Chinese food scenario. 1480 01:17:06,608 --> 01:17:09,483 The U.S. Attorney's office is on the border of Chinatown, 1481 01:17:09,525 --> 01:17:12,733 and the IRS agents know all the good places to eat, trust me. 1482 01:17:12,775 --> 01:17:18,108 So they ordered a slew of different Chinese dishes, 1483 01:17:18,150 --> 01:17:20,816 and I had Steve and Ian brought over, 1484 01:17:20,858 --> 01:17:23,733 and I had two chairs set out just outside my office 1485 01:17:23,775 --> 01:17:27,400 so that the smell was kind of wafting out into the hall. 1486 01:17:27,441 --> 01:17:30,191 And they're looking at it, and they're... 1487 01:17:30,233 --> 01:17:31,733 you know, they're hungry. 1488 01:17:31,775 --> 01:17:34,318 We really tried everything. 1489 01:17:38,775 --> 01:17:41,650 We were under all kinds of pressure. 1490 01:17:41,691 --> 01:17:44,900 The government had all our records. 1491 01:17:44,941 --> 01:17:48,108 It isn't as if, you know, we named names, 1492 01:17:48,150 --> 01:17:51,108 but we would've had to perjure ourselves 1493 01:17:51,150 --> 01:17:54,566 if we didn't answer questions about the nightclub owners 1494 01:17:54,608 --> 01:17:58,066 of Bonds, Infinity, 1495 01:17:58,108 --> 01:18:00,566 and New York-New York at the time. 1496 01:18:00,608 --> 01:18:02,566 They were, like, kind of our enemies. 1497 01:18:02,608 --> 01:18:05,191 You know, we, uh, 1498 01:18:05,233 --> 01:18:06,525 always suspected 1499 01:18:06,566 --> 01:18:09,360 that those guys were out to hurt us anyways, 1500 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,775 so it was a kind of... 1501 01:18:12,816 --> 01:18:15,233 easy way to rationalize that, I suppose. 1502 01:18:15,276 --> 01:18:18,608 But my father wouldn't have, uh... 1503 01:18:18,650 --> 01:18:21,360 have liked this. -Why? 1504 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,318 You know, because just, that's not something you do. 1505 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:30,816 You know, um, do your time like a man. 1506 01:18:30,858 --> 01:18:33,150 Wouldn't be something that he would, uh, 1507 01:18:33,191 --> 01:18:35,483 you know, want... want... want me to do. 1508 01:18:37,983 --> 01:18:40,983 -And did that weigh upon you? -Of course. 1509 01:18:41,025 --> 01:18:43,650 I had problems. I still have problems, 1510 01:18:43,691 --> 01:18:45,318 and I'm still embarrassed about it. 1511 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:46,733 It's one of the things, 1512 01:18:46,775 --> 01:18:49,233 uh, I was hoping you wouldn't get into. 1513 01:18:49,276 --> 01:18:51,400 But I, you know... 1514 01:18:51,441 --> 01:18:52,775 I, um... 1515 01:18:54,650 --> 01:18:58,608 It's, uh, just part of the story, I suppose. 1516 01:19:06,191 --> 01:19:09,150 We couldn't stay in prison for three and a half years, 1517 01:19:09,191 --> 01:19:12,108 so we did what we had to do 1518 01:19:12,150 --> 01:19:13,650 and got a reduced sentence. 1519 01:19:23,941 --> 01:19:27,441 When we got out of prison in 1981, 1520 01:19:27,483 --> 01:19:29,066 it was a whole different world. 1521 01:19:52,941 --> 01:19:55,691 Governor Reagan, we just wanted to show you 1522 01:19:55,733 --> 01:19:57,525 what the map of the United States looks like 1523 01:19:57,566 --> 01:19:59,108 as of 8:00 tonight. 1524 01:19:59,150 --> 01:20:00,941 -Hey! -All yours! 1525 01:20:07,276 --> 01:20:09,691 You had a different administration in the early '80s, 1526 01:20:09,733 --> 01:20:11,566 and suddenly it was all about making money. 1527 01:20:11,608 --> 01:20:14,066 It wasn't about abandon, it wasn't about equalization, 1528 01:20:14,108 --> 01:20:18,191 it was about massive, obvious success, 1529 01:20:18,233 --> 01:20:20,025 and a dollar über alles. 1530 01:20:22,233 --> 01:20:24,816 Downtown became more downtown. 1531 01:20:24,858 --> 01:20:26,816 The Mudd Club really became dominant 1532 01:20:26,858 --> 01:20:32,025 in protest against the yuppies and the Reagan administration. 1533 01:20:36,691 --> 01:20:38,566 Getting out of jail, 1534 01:20:38,608 --> 01:20:41,233 we were both really, really, really sensitive, 1535 01:20:41,276 --> 01:20:44,191 both unsure of ourselves. 1536 01:20:44,233 --> 01:20:48,233 You know, that's a devastation that's hard to explain. 1537 01:20:48,276 --> 01:20:50,483 You lose everything. 1538 01:20:50,525 --> 01:20:53,360 You know, I lost my law license. 1539 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,191 I couldn't vote. 1540 01:20:55,233 --> 01:20:59,360 Even a driver's license, your credit card... 1541 01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,066 So I'm disenfranchised. 1542 01:21:01,108 --> 01:21:03,108 It's... You know, you don't realize, 1543 01:21:03,150 --> 01:21:05,941 till you can't, what it means to you. 1544 01:21:05,983 --> 01:21:09,150 And the shame of it. That was the real thing. 1545 01:21:09,191 --> 01:21:11,191 One of the things, I guess, that's a little bothersome 1546 01:21:11,233 --> 01:21:12,816 is that there is no stigma 1547 01:21:12,858 --> 01:21:14,650 attached to the fact that you did jail time. 1548 01:21:14,691 --> 01:21:16,650 Oh, but there is a st... There isn't a day that goes by 1549 01:21:16,691 --> 01:21:18,025 when I don't think about it. 1550 01:21:18,066 --> 01:21:19,525 -Okay. An emotional stigma. 1551 01:21:19,566 --> 01:21:21,858 It's emotional. Until about a year ago, 1552 01:21:21,900 --> 01:21:25,318 I had dreams that I was on an island and I couldn't get off. 1553 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,483 And the nightmares... I would wake up soaked. 1554 01:21:27,525 --> 01:21:30,068 -And, uh, it's something you don't get over. 1555 01:21:30,230 --> 01:21:30,983 -Fair enough. 1556 01:21:31,025 --> 01:21:34,276 Steve was kind of tentative, because he didn't know 1557 01:21:34,318 --> 01:21:37,108 the way people were gonna be reacting to him. 1558 01:21:37,150 --> 01:21:38,483 Just that they didn't know 1559 01:21:38,525 --> 01:21:40,066 if they could trust him 1560 01:21:40,108 --> 01:21:42,483 after the Hamilton Jordan and everything. 1561 01:21:42,525 --> 01:21:46,066 Yeah, the price of being a success, you know, uh... 1562 01:21:46,108 --> 01:21:47,483 you know, is easy. 1563 01:21:47,525 --> 01:21:49,400 Price of being a failure is difficult. 1564 01:21:49,441 --> 01:21:50,566 I went through both. 1565 01:21:50,608 --> 01:21:51,983 That was probably 1566 01:21:52,025 --> 01:21:53,733 the most difficult moment of their life, 1567 01:21:53,775 --> 01:21:55,983 wondering if they would ever emerge. 1568 01:21:56,025 --> 01:21:58,066 In a sense, they had nothing to lose early on. 1569 01:21:58,108 --> 01:21:59,525 They had nothing. 1570 01:21:59,566 --> 01:22:00,983 Everything was an improvement. 1571 01:22:01,025 --> 01:22:02,400 It was fine. 1572 01:22:02,441 --> 01:22:05,566 Coming back, that was courage. 1573 01:22:05,608 --> 01:22:08,525 Ian's not gonna give up. 1574 01:22:08,566 --> 01:22:10,733 Stevie, in his own way, isn't gonna give up. 1575 01:22:10,775 --> 01:22:13,525 They both had the same DNA 1576 01:22:13,566 --> 01:22:16,566 when they went in and when they got out. 1577 01:22:16,608 --> 01:22:18,608 They'll take on any challenge. 1578 01:22:18,650 --> 01:22:20,858 -And they did. -I mean, I believe 1579 01:22:20,900 --> 01:22:23,566 they were plotting a comeback in prison. 1580 01:22:23,608 --> 01:22:25,400 Of course. The day they got in, 1581 01:22:25,441 --> 01:22:27,733 they were thinking about what we're gonna do when we get out. 1582 01:22:27,775 --> 01:22:29,400 Despite Rubell's plans, 1583 01:22:29,441 --> 01:22:31,525 post-prison reality was harsh. 1584 01:22:31,566 --> 01:22:33,025 It took three years 1585 01:22:33,066 --> 01:22:34,691 before the two could find the capital 1586 01:22:34,733 --> 01:22:36,360 to finance their next venture. 1587 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,191 A string of luxury hotels that cater 1588 01:22:38,233 --> 01:22:40,566 to the same kind of eclectic crowd 1589 01:22:40,608 --> 01:22:42,233 that used to hang out at Studio 54. 1590 01:22:42,276 --> 01:22:43,858 They immediately began 1591 01:22:43,900 --> 01:22:45,360 channeling their efforts 1592 01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,525 into purchasing prime Manhattan real estate, 1593 01:22:47,566 --> 01:22:50,276 becoming part owners in several chic hotels, 1594 01:22:50,318 --> 01:22:51,733 including the Royalton 1595 01:22:51,775 --> 01:22:53,983 and Morgan's Hotel on Madison Avenue. 1596 01:22:54,025 --> 01:22:57,318 We wanted to be in the hotel business. 1597 01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,650 But we had to prove to the banks 1598 01:22:59,691 --> 01:23:02,608 that we could borrow $14 million and pay it back. 1599 01:23:02,650 --> 01:23:04,233 So that was the reason 1600 01:23:04,276 --> 01:23:07,400 why we opened up Palladium nightclub. 1601 01:23:07,441 --> 01:23:09,733 The bald, the brave, 1602 01:23:09,775 --> 01:23:12,150 and the beautiful came out tonight 1603 01:23:12,191 --> 01:23:14,318 for the opening of the Palladium. 1604 01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,233 It's an incredible thing that with Steve and Ian 1605 01:23:16,276 --> 01:23:18,400 out of the picture for six or seven years, 1606 01:23:18,441 --> 01:23:19,525 really nothing's 1607 01:23:19,566 --> 01:23:21,066 come along to replace them. 1608 01:23:21,108 --> 01:23:22,483 And now they're back 1609 01:23:22,525 --> 01:23:24,108 and bigger and better than ever. 1610 01:23:24,150 --> 01:23:26,483 I had hesitations about everything I did 1611 01:23:26,525 --> 01:23:27,941 because I had made a mistake, 1612 01:23:27,983 --> 01:23:29,858 and I had not felt so great about myself 1613 01:23:29,900 --> 01:23:30,983 for a while. 1614 01:23:31,025 --> 01:23:32,483 I got a second chance, 1615 01:23:32,525 --> 01:23:34,525 and you couldn't ask for anything more. 1616 01:23:37,775 --> 01:23:40,066 When we did the Palladium, 1617 01:23:40,108 --> 01:23:42,733 this was the first press piece we got, 1618 01:23:42,775 --> 01:23:44,150 called "The Comeback Kids," 1619 01:23:44,191 --> 01:23:46,150 where I came out from the shadows. 1620 01:23:46,191 --> 01:23:50,858 The story was, uh... as much on me 1621 01:23:50,900 --> 01:23:52,900 as it was on Steve. 1622 01:23:52,941 --> 01:23:54,983 Steve was a little bit upset about it, 1623 01:23:55,025 --> 01:23:58,276 and the story disrupted that balance 1624 01:23:58,318 --> 01:24:02,441 that existed between Steve and I all those years 1625 01:24:02,483 --> 01:24:04,566 in terms of him being out there 1626 01:24:04,608 --> 01:24:06,775 getting all... all of the attention 1627 01:24:06,816 --> 01:24:09,900 and me being in the background and not getting any. 1628 01:24:09,941 --> 01:24:11,566 It was a new dynamic. 1629 01:24:11,608 --> 01:24:13,941 I remember it took him a little while 1630 01:24:13,983 --> 01:24:15,691 to... to... to get over it. 1631 01:24:19,858 --> 01:24:21,816 We should point out, for better or for worse, 1632 01:24:21,858 --> 01:24:23,276 Studio 54 is no longer. 1633 01:24:23,318 --> 01:24:24,900 Yeah. I read in the paper the other day 1634 01:24:24,941 --> 01:24:26,276 it was just closed, but... 1635 01:24:26,318 --> 01:24:29,400 -How'd you feel about that? -Um, I... 1636 01:24:29,441 --> 01:24:31,483 You know, I'm almost a little... 1637 01:24:31,525 --> 01:24:32,941 It's something of the past, 1638 01:24:32,983 --> 01:24:34,983 and I so do not want to dwell on the past. 1639 01:24:35,025 --> 01:24:36,608 -Sure. -The good or the bad. 1640 01:24:36,650 --> 01:24:38,858 I'm always futuristic in what I can do next 1641 01:24:38,900 --> 01:24:40,276 and what opportunities we can... 1642 01:24:40,318 --> 01:24:42,941 you know, that Ian and I can come up with, and... 1643 01:24:42,983 --> 01:24:45,025 You know, life is so exciting. 1644 01:25:00,775 --> 01:25:02,566 So how did you find out 1645 01:25:02,608 --> 01:25:05,525 that Steve had contracted HIV? 1646 01:25:05,566 --> 01:25:07,108 I did a blood test. 1647 01:25:09,191 --> 01:25:14,066 Did you suspect that he was becoming ill with that? 1648 01:25:14,108 --> 01:25:15,733 He had some symptoms. 1649 01:25:15,775 --> 01:25:20,066 Not of HIV, but there were vague symptoms. 1650 01:25:20,108 --> 01:25:22,483 And I was the one that told him he had AIDS, yeah. 1651 01:25:24,900 --> 01:25:26,733 You have to remember, AIDS, at that time... 1652 01:25:26,775 --> 01:25:28,150 it wasn't a disease. 1653 01:25:29,566 --> 01:25:31,650 It was a condemnation. 1654 01:25:31,691 --> 01:25:35,816 And so he wouldn't let me tell our parents. 1655 01:25:35,858 --> 01:25:38,483 He held it together, and... 1656 01:25:38,525 --> 01:25:41,650 I'm sure he didn't hold it together after I left, 1657 01:25:41,691 --> 01:25:42,858 but he held it together. 1658 01:25:45,441 --> 01:25:48,233 Everybody was getting sick. 1659 01:25:48,276 --> 01:25:51,983 It was frightening, and... 1660 01:25:52,025 --> 01:25:56,650 if I'm still emotionally affected by it, 1661 01:25:56,691 --> 01:25:58,900 the loss was profound. 1662 01:26:02,608 --> 01:26:05,983 All these young guys were just fading away. 1663 01:26:12,900 --> 01:26:14,400 Half the bartenders... 1664 01:26:16,066 --> 01:26:19,150 you know, half the people that did the sets... 1665 01:26:19,191 --> 01:26:21,858 the kids that painted, 1666 01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:23,400 they're not with us anymore. 1667 01:26:25,566 --> 01:26:26,900 It was devastating. 1668 01:26:29,566 --> 01:26:34,650 The impact that these people had on the community, 1669 01:26:34,691 --> 01:26:38,775 on the culture, on New York City... 1670 01:26:38,816 --> 01:26:40,983 such an incredible loss. 1671 01:26:41,025 --> 01:26:44,150 Culturally, it changed everything. 1672 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,360 Steve was the kind of guy that, you know, 1673 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,858 if he did something the night before 1674 01:26:52,900 --> 01:26:54,900 that might've been a little embarrassing, 1675 01:26:54,941 --> 01:26:57,066 you would see him the next morning, 1676 01:26:57,108 --> 01:26:58,608 and he would act like nothing happened, 1677 01:26:58,650 --> 01:27:00,566 and get away with it, and that would be the end of it, 1678 01:27:00,608 --> 01:27:01,941 whereas somebody might come into the room 1679 01:27:01,983 --> 01:27:03,276 with their tail between their legs, 1680 01:27:03,318 --> 01:27:04,816 terribly embarrassed. 1681 01:27:04,858 --> 01:27:07,150 So Steve was always able to get away with it. 1682 01:27:07,191 --> 01:27:09,858 This one thing he didn't get away with. 1683 01:27:19,691 --> 01:27:21,858 Steve Rubell changed the look, the feel, 1684 01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:23,608 and the pace of New York's nightlife 1685 01:27:23,650 --> 01:27:26,318 when he opened up Studio 54 some years ago. 1686 01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,733 Well, Rubell died this morning here in Manhattan 1687 01:27:28,775 --> 01:27:30,441 from complications of hepatitis. 1688 01:27:30,483 --> 01:27:32,400 Steve Rubell died of complications 1689 01:27:32,441 --> 01:27:34,983 resulting from hepatitis and septic shock. 1690 01:27:35,025 --> 01:27:36,360 Steve Rubell, 1691 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,066 who died yesterday of liver failure... 1692 01:27:38,108 --> 01:27:39,900 There were rumors that Rubell succumbed to AIDS, 1693 01:27:39,941 --> 01:27:41,691 but the official word is that he died 1694 01:27:41,733 --> 01:27:43,233 of hepatitis and septic shock. 1695 01:27:43,276 --> 01:27:45,025 He didn't want the press 1696 01:27:45,066 --> 01:27:47,691 to put in the obit 1697 01:27:47,733 --> 01:27:51,066 that he died of complications of AIDS. 1698 01:27:51,108 --> 01:27:53,858 That was kept out. 1699 01:27:53,900 --> 01:27:56,108 I wanted to, you know, make sure 1700 01:27:56,150 --> 01:27:58,150 everybody came to the funeral 1701 01:27:58,191 --> 01:28:00,108 because that's what Steve would've wanted 1702 01:28:00,150 --> 01:28:01,733 was, like, a big send-off. 1703 01:28:01,775 --> 01:28:04,441 So I was on the phone making calls 1704 01:28:04,483 --> 01:28:06,566 to make sure everybody would, you know, would come. 1705 01:28:06,608 --> 01:28:08,566 The funeral for that people person 1706 01:28:08,608 --> 01:28:11,400 turned out the chic of New York City society. 1707 01:28:11,441 --> 01:28:13,816 From Calvin Klein to Bianca Jagger 1708 01:28:13,858 --> 01:28:15,483 to his partner Ian Schrager, 1709 01:28:15,525 --> 01:28:17,566 who, at times, looked shaken. 1710 01:28:17,608 --> 01:28:19,983 Losing Steve was like losing a family member. 1711 01:28:22,191 --> 01:28:24,108 So it was a very difficult day, 1712 01:28:24,150 --> 01:28:26,025 and a very difficult time. I think it hit... 1713 01:28:26,066 --> 01:28:28,025 Every one of our Studio family 1714 01:28:28,066 --> 01:28:30,108 who knew him felt the same way. 1715 01:28:32,858 --> 01:28:34,483 After the brief service, 1716 01:28:34,525 --> 01:28:36,650 some from Rubell's past said they saw his death 1717 01:28:36,691 --> 01:28:39,318 as emblematic of the passing of an era. 1718 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,191 He gave a magic to the city, 1719 01:28:42,233 --> 01:28:45,276 and the city always needs magic. 1720 01:28:45,318 --> 01:28:48,233 And it always finds its, uh, marker, 1721 01:28:48,276 --> 01:28:50,691 and Steve was it for an awful lot of years. 1722 01:28:52,276 --> 01:28:53,858 Steve Rubell dead 1723 01:28:53,900 --> 01:28:55,233 at 45. 1724 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,360 Ann... Mrs. Rubell... said to me, 1725 01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,525 "Why didn't Steve ever get married?" 1726 01:29:03,566 --> 01:29:05,566 And I realized then that I'm not sure 1727 01:29:05,608 --> 01:29:08,608 that she really knew that he was gay. 1728 01:29:08,650 --> 01:29:11,608 That was part of that time, 1729 01:29:11,650 --> 01:29:13,318 that time of maybe your mother 1730 01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:14,733 was the last to know. 1731 01:29:16,108 --> 01:29:19,318 Steve's death and his illness 1732 01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:23,816 had a huge impact on, um, Ian. 1733 01:29:23,858 --> 01:29:29,108 Their love for each other and their bond was so strong, 1734 01:29:29,150 --> 01:29:31,775 um, that I think it... 1735 01:29:31,816 --> 01:29:35,360 it made an impact for quite some time. 1736 01:29:53,608 --> 01:29:57,566 I met Steve... I think I was 18 or 19... 1737 01:29:57,608 --> 01:29:59,733 and the friendship blossomed right away, 1738 01:29:59,775 --> 01:30:01,400 and I was friendly with him 1739 01:30:01,441 --> 01:30:03,066 for all that time right up to 1989. 1740 01:30:04,775 --> 01:30:07,858 I'm lucky that I had one of those friendships. 1741 01:30:07,900 --> 01:30:09,983 Not many people, you know, do. 1742 01:30:12,191 --> 01:30:16,025 Steve and I bought this house in 1985. 1743 01:30:16,066 --> 01:30:17,983 Has a lot of history, this house. 1744 01:30:20,066 --> 01:30:23,276 It's like a family heirloom. 1745 01:30:23,318 --> 01:30:25,483 For that, it's quite beautiful. 1746 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,360 How did the death of your partner, 1747 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,025 your best friend, affect you? 1748 01:30:41,066 --> 01:30:43,858 It was devastating. It was a personal loss. 1749 01:30:43,900 --> 01:30:47,816 Steve and I were really like husband and wife. 1750 01:30:47,858 --> 01:30:49,691 I'm not sure 1751 01:30:49,733 --> 01:30:52,025 which one was the husband and which one was the wife. 1752 01:30:54,276 --> 01:30:55,566 We vacationed together. 1753 01:30:55,608 --> 01:30:57,025 We shared a house on Long Island together. 1754 01:30:57,066 --> 01:30:58,733 We worked together. We... 1755 01:30:58,775 --> 01:31:00,191 He was the last person I talked to 1756 01:31:00,233 --> 01:31:01,483 when I went to sleep. 1757 01:31:01,525 --> 01:31:04,150 And so it was a personal loss, 1758 01:31:04,191 --> 01:31:06,983 uh, uh, uh, more than anything else. 1759 01:31:07,025 --> 01:31:09,733 On the business end of it, the same passion 1760 01:31:09,775 --> 01:31:13,191 that drove me while Steve was alive still drove me. 1761 01:31:13,233 --> 01:31:14,608 I had the same hunger. 1762 01:31:14,650 --> 01:31:16,066 I still have that same hunger now. 1763 01:31:16,108 --> 01:31:19,025 And so we just continued on. 1764 01:31:19,066 --> 01:31:21,816 It's not as much fun. It's not as exhilarating. 1765 01:31:21,858 --> 01:31:23,691 I don't have someone to share it with. 1766 01:31:23,733 --> 01:31:25,566 But we just... you know, you go on. 1767 01:31:25,608 --> 01:31:27,318 Did you ever doubt that you could do it? 1768 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,525 Of course. I still doubt it. I think that's what drives me. 1769 01:31:42,233 --> 01:31:44,191 It's not a surprise to me 1770 01:31:44,233 --> 01:31:46,775 that through all these years, 1771 01:31:46,816 --> 01:31:48,816 Ian has evolved 1772 01:31:48,858 --> 01:31:50,233 and reinvented himself 1773 01:31:50,276 --> 01:31:53,233 and taken that core of who he is 1774 01:31:53,276 --> 01:31:55,400 to where he is today. 1775 01:31:59,566 --> 01:32:03,983 I was trying to capture energy in the hotels 1776 01:32:04,025 --> 01:32:06,360 in the same way you might capture energy 1777 01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:08,150 on the streets of a city. 1778 01:32:08,191 --> 01:32:09,900 You know, there's an energy 1779 01:32:09,941 --> 01:32:12,318 that lifts everything, 1780 01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,318 a high tide that comes in. 1781 01:32:23,691 --> 01:32:26,150 That was the same thing with Studio. 1782 01:32:33,608 --> 01:32:36,108 Studio just meant everything to us, 1783 01:32:36,150 --> 01:32:38,108 what we had gone through together. 1784 01:32:38,150 --> 01:32:39,941 Both of us ingrained 1785 01:32:39,983 --> 01:32:42,858 with that desire to be successful. 1786 01:32:42,900 --> 01:32:44,858 I didn't get it as a lawyer, 1787 01:32:44,900 --> 01:32:48,150 and he didn't get it as a steak restaurateur, 1788 01:32:48,191 --> 01:32:50,900 but we both got it together with Studio. 1789 01:32:59,983 --> 01:33:01,775 What they created, 1790 01:33:01,816 --> 01:33:05,150 nobody has come near since then. 1791 01:33:06,733 --> 01:33:08,691 You know, there was a brevity to it. 1792 01:33:08,733 --> 01:33:11,900 There was a sense of something lost. 1793 01:33:11,941 --> 01:33:13,650 Paradise lost. 1794 01:33:16,941 --> 01:33:20,608 I don't think they had any idea what it would become, 1795 01:33:20,650 --> 01:33:24,150 that it would become this world famous, 1796 01:33:24,191 --> 01:33:27,318 that it would be important in our culture 1797 01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,025 and the history of New York City 1798 01:33:30,066 --> 01:33:32,150 and maybe significant in the history 1799 01:33:32,191 --> 01:33:34,775 of what was going on all around the world. 1800 01:33:41,483 --> 01:33:43,566 Studio wasn't a nightclub. 1801 01:33:43,608 --> 01:33:48,233 It was like a kind of social experiment. 1802 01:33:48,276 --> 01:33:51,566 And that's why it's never been able to be recreated. 1803 01:33:53,441 --> 01:33:56,650 It was fun... holding on to a lightning bolt. 1804 01:35:02,150 --> 01:35:05,775 ♪ What's the sense in sharing this one and only life ♪ 1805 01:35:05,816 --> 01:35:09,941 ♪ Ending up just another lost and lonely wife ♪ 1806 01:35:09,983 --> 01:35:11,941 ♪ You count up the years ♪ 1807 01:35:11,983 --> 01:35:16,108 ♪ And they will be filled with tears ♪ 1808 01:35:18,941 --> 01:35:22,525 ♪ Love only breaks up to start over again ♪ 1809 01:35:22,566 --> 01:35:26,691 ♪ You'll get the babies, but you won't have your man ♪ 1810 01:35:26,733 --> 01:35:32,900 ♪ While he's busy loving every woman that he can ♪ 1811 01:35:32,941 --> 01:35:34,900 ♪ Uh-huh ♪ 1812 01:35:34,941 --> 01:35:39,150 ♪ Say I'm gonna leave a hundred times a day ♪ 1813 01:35:39,191 --> 01:35:41,150 ♪ It's easier said than done ♪ 1814 01:35:41,191 --> 01:35:43,276 ♪ When you just can't break away ♪ 1815 01:35:43,318 --> 01:35:45,483 ♪ When you just can't break away ♪ 1816 01:35:45,525 --> 01:35:49,983 ♪ Oh, young hearts run free ♪ 1817 01:35:50,025 --> 01:35:52,276 ♪ They'll never be hung up ♪ 1818 01:35:52,318 --> 01:35:55,983 ♪ Hung up like my man and me ♪ 1819 01:35:57,900 --> 01:36:00,191 ♪ My man and me ♪ 1820 01:36:02,150 --> 01:36:04,733 ♪ Ooh, young hearts ♪ 1821 01:36:04,775 --> 01:36:07,025 ♪ To yourself be true ♪ 1822 01:36:07,066 --> 01:36:12,941 ♪ Don't be no fool when love really don't love you ♪ 1823 01:36:15,191 --> 01:36:16,775 ♪ Don't love you ♪ 1824 01:36:19,816 --> 01:36:23,566 ♪ It's high time now, just one crack at life ♪ 1825 01:36:23,608 --> 01:36:27,566 ♪ Who wants to live it in trouble and strife? ♪ 1826 01:36:27,608 --> 01:36:29,650 ♪ My mind must be free ♪ 1827 01:36:29,691 --> 01:36:33,733 ♪ To learn all I can about me ♪ 1828 01:36:33,775 --> 01:36:36,150 ♪ Mm-hmm ♪ 1829 01:36:36,191 --> 01:36:40,108 ♪ I'm gonna love me for the rest of my days ♪ 1830 01:36:40,150 --> 01:36:44,441 ♪ Encourage the babies every time they say ♪ 1831 01:36:44,483 --> 01:36:50,108 ♪ Self-preservation is what's really going on today ♪ 1832 01:36:52,816 --> 01:36:56,650 ♪ Say I'm gonna turn loose a thousand times a day ♪ 1833 01:36:56,691 --> 01:36:58,733 ♪ But how can I turn loose ♪ 1834 01:36:58,775 --> 01:37:00,900 ♪ When I just can't break away? ♪ 1835 01:37:00,941 --> 01:37:02,441 ♪ When I just can't break away ♪ 1836 01:37:02,483 --> 01:37:07,025 ♪ Oh, young hearts run free ♪ 1837 01:37:07,066 --> 01:37:09,318 ♪ They'll never be hung up ♪ 1838 01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:13,525 ♪ Hung up like my man and me ♪ 1839 01:37:15,650 --> 01:37:17,691 ♪ You and me ♪ 1840 01:37:17,733 --> 01:37:19,191 ♪ Ohh ♪ 1841 01:37:19,233 --> 01:37:21,608 ♪ Ooh, young hearts ♪ 1842 01:37:21,650 --> 01:37:23,858 ♪ To yourself be true ♪ 1843 01:37:23,900 --> 01:37:29,858 ♪ Don't be no fool when love really don't love you ♪ 1844 01:37:32,025 --> 01:37:34,025 ♪ Don't love you ♪ 1845 01:37:43,066 --> 01:37:44,608 ♪ Ohh ♪ 1846 01:37:44,650 --> 01:37:48,360 ♪ Young hearts run free ♪ 1847 01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,733 ♪ They'll never be hung up ♪ 1848 01:37:50,775 --> 01:37:54,233 ♪ Hung up like my man and me ♪ 1849 01:37:56,650 --> 01:37:59,066 ♪ My man and me ♪ 1850 01:37:59,108 --> 01:38:02,941 ♪ Ohh Ohh, young hearts ♪ 1851 01:38:02,983 --> 01:38:05,233 ♪ To yourself be true ♪ 1852 01:38:05,276 --> 01:38:10,525 ♪ Don't be no fool when love really don't love you ♪ 1853 01:38:13,108 --> 01:38:15,233 ♪ It don't love you ♪ 1854 01:38:15,276 --> 01:38:16,816 ♪ Ohh ♪ 1855 01:38:16,858 --> 01:38:21,318 ♪ Ooh, young hearts run free ♪ 1856 01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,691 ♪ They'll never be hung up ♪ 1857 01:38:23,733 --> 01:38:27,360 ♪ Hung up like my man and me ♪ 1858 01:38:29,733 --> 01:38:32,066 ♪ My man and me ♪ 1859 01:38:32,108 --> 01:38:33,400 ♪ Ohh ♪ 1860 01:38:33,441 --> 01:38:35,858 ♪ Oh, young hearts ♪ 1861 01:38:35,900 --> 01:38:38,150 ♪ To yourself be true ♪ 1862 01:38:38,191 --> 01:38:43,483 ♪ Don't be no fool when love really don't love you ♪ 1863 01:38:46,318 --> 01:38:48,025 ♪ Don't love you ♪ 134643

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