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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,866 --> 00:00:18,500 [ Man ] Excuse me, sir. 2 00:00:18,566 --> 00:00:20,300 Do you think that the people on death row should have a right to an appeal? 3 00:00:20,366 --> 00:00:23,266 These people forfeit their right to live. Period. 4 00:00:23,966 --> 00:00:27,500 You take a life, far as I'm concerned, you have no rights. 5 00:00:27,566 --> 00:00:31,000 They give them the weight rooms with TV sets, the cable TV. Right? 6 00:00:31,066 --> 00:00:34,466 So, no thanks. It's an eye for an eye, not an eye for H.B.O. 7 00:00:34,533 --> 00:00:38,133 It's a little barbaric, isn't it? I mean, it's just vengeance, right? 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,666 [ Man ] Did you hear about the execution of Randall Jefferson tomorrow night? 9 00:00:41,733 --> 00:00:44,433 Tomorrow night? No, I didn't hear that. What'd he do? 10 00:00:44,500 --> 00:00:47,833 They say he murdered a 19-year-old girl. 11 00:00:47,900 --> 00:00:50,733 Fry him. Fry 'em all. 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,866 I believe this man deserves everything he gets for what he did to that girl. 13 00:00:54,933 --> 00:00:58,133 And her parents, my gosh, 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,333 to lose a child, there's nothing worse than that. 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,266 [ Woman ] I think about what Jen, uh-- about what she'd be doing. 16 00:01:05,333 --> 00:01:08,766 You never get over that. 17 00:01:08,833 --> 00:01:12,033 Maybe after tomorrow. 18 00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:14,733 If they really do it this time. 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,933 [ Interviewer ] You don't think the execution will actually take place? 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,700 Man's had three dates come and go already. 21 00:01:20,766 --> 00:01:25,066 Now I hear he's got some new lawyers-- some out-of-state lawyers. 22 00:01:25,133 --> 00:01:27,866 I don't understand who would do a job like that. 23 00:01:27,933 --> 00:01:32,033 I mean, what kind of people would want to help an animal like Randy Jefferson? 24 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:34,800 You got water pressure in your room? We're not staying here. 25 00:01:34,866 --> 00:01:38,733 Figures. Where'd they put you up, like, uh, the Four Seasons? The Ramada, actually. 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,700 I realize that. But our position is the man did not receive a fair trial-- 27 00:01:41,766 --> 00:01:43,733 You guys got water pressure over here? [ Eugene ] My room's fine. 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,033 Jimmy, we need that index. I got no flush power. 29 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:48,766 We believe it's important for the governor to hear this evidence himself before. 30 00:01:48,833 --> 00:01:51,500 I understand, but-- You're fine. It's okay in here. 31 00:01:51,566 --> 00:01:54,066 I know that. But what I'm saying is-- I can't believe this. 32 00:01:54,133 --> 00:01:55,966 Jimmy, will ya knock it off in there? 33 00:01:56,033 --> 00:01:59,566 I got the background for the pardon board. Here. [ Sighs ] 34 00:01:59,633 --> 00:02:01,733 Hello? 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,233 Now they're saying that he won't meet with us personally, but he may-- 36 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:06,333 and they stress "may"-- attend the clemency hearing. 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,466 They assured us that he'd meet us. 38 00:02:08,533 --> 00:02:10,700 His office says he'll take the pardon board ruling "under advisement." 39 00:02:10,766 --> 00:02:13,700 You shouldn't use the minibar. Jimmy, do you mind? We need those exhibits. 40 00:02:13,766 --> 00:02:16,000 Jimmy, would you just relax? Okay, let's just settle down. 41 00:02:16,066 --> 00:02:18,700 I stayed in a place once, they had this big cheese plate. 42 00:02:18,766 --> 00:02:20,800 Check with the front desk, Lindsay, please. It cost me 22 bucks. 43 00:02:20,866 --> 00:02:25,100 Jimmy, it is just a bottle of water. Everybody, just shut up, please! 44 00:02:25,166 --> 00:02:27,433 Take a look at this. 45 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:30,166 Randall Jefferson, convicted in the 1988 murder... 46 00:02:30,233 --> 00:02:32,600 of Richmond coed, Jennifer Carson, 47 00:02:32,666 --> 00:02:35,933 is set to die by lethal injection just after midnight tonight. 48 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,133 Robert Donnell, Jefferson's attorney, arrived here this morning from Boston, 49 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,366 and Channel Three's Elizabeth Knox was there. 50 00:02:43,433 --> 00:02:45,700 No, I don't think it's over by any means. 51 00:02:45,766 --> 00:02:48,633 Governor Benning has assured us that he will personally attend the clemency hearing... 52 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:51,633 and I have confidence he'll see that my client did not receive a fair trial. 53 00:02:51,700 --> 00:02:55,466 That's all. Meanwhile, at Cedar Springs Correctional Facility, 54 00:02:55,533 --> 00:02:58,366 only yards away from the room where he is set to die, 55 00:02:58,433 --> 00:03:00,933 Randall Jefferson can only wait. 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,066 [ TV Turns Off ] 57 00:03:16,166 --> 00:03:17,733 [ Line Ringing ] 58 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:26,533 [ Cell Door Opens, Closes ] 59 00:03:32,633 --> 00:03:37,200 [ Sirens Wailing ] 60 00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:54,533 [ Siren Wailing ] 61 00:04:00,233 --> 00:04:02,266 [ Horn Honking ] 62 00:04:05,766 --> 00:04:09,100 [ Interviewer ] You reloaded? You rolling? 63 00:04:09,166 --> 00:04:12,033 Okay, here we go. Mark it. 64 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:14,800 [ Bobby ] Now wait a second. Uh, Bobby, if this isn't a good time-- 65 00:04:14,866 --> 00:04:18,433 Uh-- No, uh-- 66 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:20,633 Go ahead. Ask your questions. 67 00:04:20,700 --> 00:04:23,866 Okay, just a little bit on how you got here, just background on Randy. 68 00:04:23,933 --> 00:04:26,633 [ Bobby ] Okay. Uh, he's been on death row six-and-a-half years. 69 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:28,700 That's pretty much right, I think. 70 00:04:28,766 --> 00:04:31,300 His first lawyer missed the deadline for filing habeas. 71 00:04:31,366 --> 00:04:34,400 It took three years just to reach federal court. 72 00:04:34,466 --> 00:04:37,433 Have you been with him the whole six-and-a-half years? 73 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:41,200 About a week. The fact is, Randy had no lawyer for two years. 74 00:04:41,266 --> 00:04:43,900 About a third of the guys on death row don't. 75 00:04:43,966 --> 00:04:48,166 The Capital Defenders Project monitors who's up next. And they asked us in. 76 00:04:48,233 --> 00:04:51,000 Hey, Bobby, we gotta go. Clemency hearing starts in 40 minutes. 77 00:04:51,066 --> 00:04:54,233 How do the other lawyers feel about coming down here, about us filming their every move? 78 00:04:54,300 --> 00:04:56,333 Oh, would you get out of my face! 79 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,233 Heckinger will be sitting to your left. Try to direct as much as you can to him. 80 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:03,633 Lopez will be in the center. His sister was carjacked last year, so keep clear. 81 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:05,900 What about the attorney general, Walgren? 82 00:05:05,966 --> 00:05:07,900 He'll go first, and he'll be good. 83 00:05:07,966 --> 00:05:11,833 He not only tried the case, but he got elected A.G. by promising to pull the switch himself. 84 00:05:11,900 --> 00:05:14,766 Governor's not gonna make it. He's judging a 4-H show in Dinwiddie. 85 00:05:14,833 --> 00:05:17,033 Oh, that's not good. Hey, no press allowed up here. 86 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:18,966 They're making a documentary. Is that right? 87 00:05:19,033 --> 00:05:22,166 [ Interviewer ] Yeah, we talked to Tom Edgar. Here it is. 88 00:05:23,966 --> 00:05:26,466 All right. Here we go. 89 00:05:28,900 --> 00:05:31,666 [ Man ] These give you some idea of the brutality. 90 00:05:31,733 --> 00:05:33,666 The slashes on the arm, 91 00:05:33,733 --> 00:05:37,000 she tried to defend herself, but the blows kept on coming. 92 00:05:37,066 --> 00:05:40,466 There has been no show of remorse, no regret, 93 00:05:40,533 --> 00:05:44,066 not even an acknowledgment by Mr. Jefferson that he even did this. 94 00:05:44,133 --> 00:05:48,033 Let's be clear here. I don't celebrate the death penalty. 95 00:05:48,100 --> 00:05:52,866 It should be used to punish only the most brutally coldhearted killers. 96 00:05:52,933 --> 00:05:57,266 Randy Jefferson meets that criteria. 97 00:05:59,033 --> 00:06:03,966 Randy Jefferson's trial lasted three days. 98 00:06:04,033 --> 00:06:06,666 Three days. 99 00:06:06,733 --> 00:06:09,433 The only testimony against him came from a convicted felon... 100 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:12,300 who said Randy made a jailhouse confession to him, 101 00:06:12,366 --> 00:06:16,600 and who only gave his testimony after the prosecution offered to reduce his sentence. 102 00:06:16,666 --> 00:06:18,733 No weapon, no other forensic evidence. 103 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,166 Mr. Donnell, he was convicted. Are you here to retry him? 104 00:06:21,233 --> 00:06:23,633 I'm here to emphasize that the trial lasted three days, 105 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:25,666 with a lawyer who called only one witness... 106 00:06:25,733 --> 00:06:27,766 and spoke for just two minutes at the penalty phase. 107 00:06:27,833 --> 00:06:30,033 We have medical records never entered as evidence... 108 00:06:30,100 --> 00:06:33,433 documenting a pattern of abuse at the hands of his stepfather. 109 00:06:33,500 --> 00:06:35,766 If you're suggesting ineffective assistance of counsel, 110 00:06:35,833 --> 00:06:38,933 the United States Supreme Court has already rejected that claim. 111 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,133 Not on merits. The court found he had not raised the issue in a timely fashion. 112 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,500 So you're asking us to second-guess the Supreme Court? 113 00:06:46,566 --> 00:06:49,133 Look, 114 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,333 a man is waiting to die here. 115 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,833 And the truth is you may be his last hope. 116 00:06:57,900 --> 00:07:03,000 All I'm asking is that you look at the process that condemned him... 117 00:07:04,433 --> 00:07:07,000 and ask yourself, was it conducted fairly? 118 00:07:10,633 --> 00:07:13,200 Fourteen minutes. They could have at least pretended to discuss it. 119 00:07:13,266 --> 00:07:16,366 Governor could still override it. Oh, there's some hope. 120 00:07:16,433 --> 00:07:20,033 [ Sighs ] Someone's gotta tell Randy. 121 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:22,866 No, no, no. It's just a recommendation. 122 00:07:22,933 --> 00:07:24,933 He can still grant you a pardon and-- 123 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,666 and we hear that the governor is taking a very strong interest in your case, Randy. 124 00:07:30,733 --> 00:07:32,800 I'll tell you what. Uh, I'm on my way out there now. 125 00:07:32,866 --> 00:07:36,233 And I'll talk to you soon. Okay? 126 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:39,600 Okay. Great. Lindsay, where are we? 127 00:07:39,666 --> 00:07:42,800 Still holding. We can't get into federal court until we hear from state supreme. 128 00:07:42,866 --> 00:07:46,466 They're gonna ding us pretty quick, so let's be ready. Jimmy, I need you with me. 129 00:07:46,533 --> 00:07:49,133 I thought I was with Eugene. That was then. 130 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,400 If things start gettin' crazy, I'm gonna need someone at the prison with Randy. 131 00:07:52,466 --> 00:07:55,666 Bobby, could we talk about this, like, uh, privately? 132 00:07:55,733 --> 00:07:58,166 I mean, you know my feelings. I knew this would happen. 133 00:07:58,233 --> 00:08:00,333 Lindsay, I'm entitled to my feelings. 134 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,366 Jimmy, I understand your feelings, but I need you. 135 00:08:02,433 --> 00:08:05,733 But you don't understand. It's just that I'm not comfortable with certain aspects. 136 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,266 The man's on death row for a crime he possibly didn't commit... 137 00:08:08,333 --> 00:08:10,500 and for which he definitely didn't get a fair trial. 138 00:08:10,566 --> 00:08:13,133 What "aspects"? Aspects like I keep thinkin' about that young girl... 139 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,100 who got left on the side of the road. 140 00:08:15,166 --> 00:08:18,300 That's why he's on death row. No, he's on death row because the poor man-- 141 00:08:18,366 --> 00:08:20,766 Stop it! Stop it, all of you! That's enough. 142 00:08:20,833 --> 00:08:22,800 You too. Shut it off. 143 00:08:22,866 --> 00:08:24,833 [ Cell Door Closes ] 144 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:28,466 I understand Bobby's position. This isn't a question of guilt or innocence. 145 00:08:28,533 --> 00:08:31,666 It's a question of fairness. Obviously, that's why we're here. 146 00:08:31,733 --> 00:08:35,733 I'm mean, that's why I'm a lawyer-- to see that justice is done. 147 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,666 But I'm not gonna lie to you. 148 00:08:37,733 --> 00:08:40,533 I don't see the justice in a young girl having her life snuffed out, 149 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,100 and the bozo who did it getting to wake up every morning... 150 00:08:43,166 --> 00:08:45,600 to bacon and eggs on my dime and your dime. 151 00:08:45,666 --> 00:08:48,466 [ Interviewer ] You sound angry. Well, maybe I am. 152 00:08:48,533 --> 00:08:50,700 It makes me angry when people treat this guy... 153 00:08:50,766 --> 00:08:53,633 like he's some kind of saint just 'cause he's gonna die tomorrow. 154 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:55,800 I mean, we all die. 155 00:08:55,866 --> 00:08:58,600 That girl died. 156 00:09:00,133 --> 00:09:02,966 Jimmy, if you're not gonna be okay with this-- No, I'll be fine. 157 00:09:03,033 --> 00:09:05,566 Good. I love babysittin' murderers. 158 00:09:05,633 --> 00:09:08,733 Hey, you said be candid. Pay no matter to the cameras. 159 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,633 [ Door Buzzing ] 160 00:09:17,566 --> 00:09:20,433 What's goin' on, boys? They're makin' a documentary. 161 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:23,666 Not on my watch they're not. It's okay, Billy. They got clearance. 162 00:09:23,733 --> 00:09:27,666 Oh, yeah? Y'all gonna show the whole thing? Right up to the cocktail hour? 163 00:09:27,733 --> 00:09:29,600 Funny. Let me see my client. 164 00:09:29,666 --> 00:09:32,866 Guess you found your way. Open her up, Bill. I'll take it from here. 165 00:09:32,933 --> 00:09:36,866 Yes, sir, Warden. Steve Langston. Good to meet you. 166 00:09:36,933 --> 00:09:40,633 Well, gentlemen, if you're ready, let's go meet our friend. 167 00:09:44,866 --> 00:09:47,200 [ Gate Opens ] 168 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:54,166 [ Door Closes ] 169 00:09:54,233 --> 00:09:58,000 [ TV, Indistinct ] 170 00:09:58,066 --> 00:09:59,833 [ Woman On TV ] Believe me, it's nothing... 171 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:02,600 compared to what your father and I have had to endure. 172 00:10:12,233 --> 00:10:14,333 [ Guard ] Open eight! 173 00:10:22,133 --> 00:10:25,700 Randy. Bobby Donnell. Nice to finally meet you in person. You too. 174 00:10:25,766 --> 00:10:29,000 This is my associate, James Berluti. He'll be with you the rest of the day. 175 00:10:29,066 --> 00:10:31,333 So, whatever you need-- Yeah, right. 176 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,266 Whatever. Thanks for comin'. 177 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,466 [ Bobby ] So, that's where we were this morning. 178 00:10:40,533 --> 00:10:43,433 Right now, we're waiting for the state court. That should be soon. 179 00:10:43,500 --> 00:10:46,433 But whatever they say, we move directly into federal court. 180 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:49,733 We have some good issues. Okay. Sounds good. 181 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,800 And you know, the governor can always grant you a pardon on his own. 182 00:10:53,866 --> 00:10:56,433 Yeah, I know that. 183 00:10:56,500 --> 00:10:59,500 What about you? You all right? 184 00:10:59,566 --> 00:11:01,633 I got my moms, some family comin'. 185 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:05,066 They had a problem. They couldn't find out the visitin' times. 186 00:11:05,133 --> 00:11:07,700 I'll fix it. Thanks. 187 00:11:07,766 --> 00:11:10,166 Thanks a lot. 188 00:11:10,233 --> 00:11:12,233 What do you mean "test the equipment"? 189 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:14,766 They test it, make sure it all works. I want you there. 190 00:11:14,833 --> 00:11:17,433 If anything malfunctions or even looks shaky, that's something else we can argue. 191 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:20,600 That sounds a little desperate, Bobby. Like we're not desperate? 192 00:11:20,666 --> 00:11:24,766 Remember the guy in Florida, defective electric chair, uh, barbecued his head? 193 00:11:24,833 --> 00:11:27,400 If anything goes wrong with the equipment, how they handle it-- 194 00:11:27,466 --> 00:11:29,800 anything at all-- we might have Eighth Amendment grounds. 195 00:11:29,866 --> 00:11:31,900 You'll be there? So we have a record? [ Interviewer ] Yep. 196 00:11:31,966 --> 00:11:35,333 Just keeps gettin' better and better. Just do it, Jimmy! 197 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,200 It's lethal injection. What could go wrong with it? 198 00:11:41,966 --> 00:11:44,433 What'd ya get? Twelve hundred. 199 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:47,533 No, it's not worth it. Two above and blue book. 200 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,566 Is that right? You'll never get your money back. 201 00:11:49,633 --> 00:11:52,633 Is that my heart? Yeah. It's racin' too. 202 00:11:52,700 --> 00:11:55,200 I'd go get a physical. Hey, you ticklish? 203 00:11:55,266 --> 00:11:58,133 - All right, I got pressure. - Pick an arm. Any arm. 204 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,700 No, this one's taped. 205 00:12:00,766 --> 00:12:04,000 - How ya doin'? - Starting the saline now. 206 00:12:04,066 --> 00:12:07,600 All right. Yeah. Got clean lines. 207 00:12:07,666 --> 00:12:10,466 [ Man On Table ] I don't feel so good. That's the point. 208 00:12:13,133 --> 00:12:17,000 Oh, God. Okay, I'll be right back. Don't go anywhere. 209 00:12:17,066 --> 00:12:20,533 - Think I'll be here for a while. - [ Men Laughing ] 210 00:12:25,205 --> 00:12:27,538 [ Man Over TV ] Preparations continue here for tonight's execution... 211 00:12:27,605 --> 00:12:29,938 of convicted murderer Randall Jefferson. 212 00:12:30,005 --> 00:12:34,505 Just minutes ago, the state supreme court dismissed his last series of appeals. 213 00:12:34,572 --> 00:12:38,205 That means his lawyers will now have to race off to federal court. 214 00:12:38,272 --> 00:12:40,738 But for now, preparations continue-- 215 00:12:40,805 --> 00:12:44,472 Here we go. District court names are at top, court of appeals at bottom. 216 00:12:44,538 --> 00:12:47,072 I've starred the Reagan appointees. I should've crossed them off. 217 00:12:47,138 --> 00:12:49,105 Fax numbers, home phones, reversal rates. 218 00:12:49,172 --> 00:12:52,038 You're sure we can get around the new habeas restrictions? It's not really habeas. 219 00:12:52,105 --> 00:12:55,205 We're asking for a hearing based on evidence not available to the trial court. 220 00:12:55,272 --> 00:12:57,172 It would be nice if we had some new evidence. 221 00:12:57,238 --> 00:12:59,205 Where are we on ineffective assistance? 222 00:12:59,272 --> 00:13:01,538 Affidavits from two clerks sayin' his first lawyer... 223 00:13:01,605 --> 00:13:03,672 basically sat passive through most of the trial. 224 00:13:03,738 --> 00:13:05,838 A fact which seemed to bother no one. 225 00:13:05,905 --> 00:13:08,305 I just got off the phone with Franklin Walters, the judge from the original trial. 226 00:13:08,372 --> 00:13:11,172 He's willing to say that if he would have known about the abuse in Randy's past, 227 00:13:11,238 --> 00:13:13,238 he would have used his discretion... 228 00:13:13,305 --> 00:13:15,238 to convert the death sentence into life without parole. 229 00:13:15,305 --> 00:13:17,305 He's faxing it over right now. Well, that's something. 230 00:13:17,372 --> 00:13:19,438 What about that jury pool business? It won't fly. 231 00:13:19,505 --> 00:13:23,405 Under McCleskey, we'd still have to show specific discrimination in this case. 232 00:13:23,472 --> 00:13:26,905 What about that jailhouse witness, Dugger, the one who claimed Randy confessed? 233 00:13:26,972 --> 00:13:28,872 Remember him? Yeah, yeah. No, there is something. 234 00:13:28,938 --> 00:13:31,038 I was going through these press files again, 235 00:13:31,105 --> 00:13:34,438 and Frank Dugger gave a few interviews around the time of the first state appeal. 236 00:13:34,505 --> 00:13:38,838 And there is one here, and he said something really strange. 237 00:13:38,905 --> 00:13:40,938 Yeah. "There's no question. I heard what I heard. 238 00:13:41,005 --> 00:13:44,405 The man told me he killed that girl. I took that test, so you know I'm not lying." 239 00:13:44,472 --> 00:13:46,772 Test? Like in a polygraph test? 240 00:13:46,838 --> 00:13:49,338 Who gave him a lie detector? And why isn't it in the record? 241 00:13:49,405 --> 00:13:51,272 What's our deadline to file, outside? 242 00:13:51,338 --> 00:13:54,472 6:30, at the latest, maybe 7:00 to append. Okay, that gives us six hours. 243 00:13:54,538 --> 00:13:56,338 Let's find Dugger, see what he meant, first of all. 244 00:13:56,405 --> 00:13:59,138 Was there a polygraph, what was the result, and what the hell happened to it? 245 00:13:59,205 --> 00:14:02,872 Lindsay, let's find a way to leak this thing, maybe get Walgren to play a card. 246 00:14:02,938 --> 00:14:05,872 And that first lawyer, Cooperman. Eugene, do a fly-by, see if he waves. 247 00:14:05,938 --> 00:14:07,572 That's it. Let's go. 248 00:14:07,638 --> 00:14:12,072 [ Interviewer ] We heard about your appeal, uh, being turned down. 249 00:14:12,138 --> 00:14:14,205 It's all right. 250 00:14:14,272 --> 00:14:17,105 It didn't surprise you? 251 00:14:17,172 --> 00:14:19,705 Way as I see it, people done made up their minds. 252 00:14:19,772 --> 00:14:23,805 All the appeals, motions, boards, whatnot. 253 00:14:23,872 --> 00:14:27,272 People wanna believe somethin', that's what they gonna do. 254 00:14:27,338 --> 00:14:30,172 Can't change that. 255 00:14:30,238 --> 00:14:34,805 Been tryin' six years, three months, 26 days. 256 00:14:34,872 --> 00:14:37,172 Just tired of it. 257 00:14:37,238 --> 00:14:41,372 They want me, I ready. 258 00:14:41,438 --> 00:14:46,538 Uh, your lawyer, Bobby Donnell, he seems to think you still got a ways to go. 259 00:14:46,605 --> 00:14:48,938 That's what he says. 260 00:14:49,005 --> 00:14:51,138 I don't know. I'm just here. 261 00:14:51,205 --> 00:14:54,505 But I'm ready... if they want me. 262 00:14:56,372 --> 00:14:58,272 Uh, what are you reading? 263 00:14:58,338 --> 00:15:03,005 Guinness Book of World Records. So many things in here. Strange things. 264 00:15:03,072 --> 00:15:07,538 I used to think, I get out, see everything, do everything. 265 00:15:07,605 --> 00:15:11,572 Rocket cars. Rocket cars. Yeah, I like those. 266 00:15:11,638 --> 00:15:14,138 Rocket cars. Now-- 267 00:15:17,672 --> 00:15:20,005 Now I'm strong. 268 00:15:20,072 --> 00:15:22,172 I made my peace. 269 00:15:22,238 --> 00:15:24,838 You know? Yeah. 270 00:15:27,138 --> 00:15:29,272 I's ready. 271 00:15:32,172 --> 00:15:34,405 I's ready. 272 00:15:36,772 --> 00:15:39,038 [ Interviewer ] What's the difference between a polygraph and a lie detector? 273 00:15:39,105 --> 00:15:40,938 A polygraph is a lie detector. 274 00:15:41,005 --> 00:15:44,505 Okay, so this unreported polygraph test, why is it so important? 275 00:15:44,572 --> 00:15:46,472 I thought they were inadmissible. They are. 276 00:15:46,538 --> 00:15:51,238 But if the prosecution took a polygraph and the result in any way suggested Randy's innocence, 277 00:15:51,305 --> 00:15:53,605 the law is they got to turn that over to the defense. 278 00:15:53,672 --> 00:15:55,672 If they didn't, it's prosecutorial misconduct. 279 00:15:55,738 --> 00:15:57,938 If they did and the defense ignored it, 280 00:15:58,005 --> 00:16:00,505 well, then that's ineffective assistance of counsel. 281 00:16:00,572 --> 00:16:02,605 And that's enough for a stay of execution? 282 00:16:02,672 --> 00:16:06,538 Ten years ago, with Brennan and Blackmun and Marshall, even money. 283 00:16:06,605 --> 00:16:08,572 Today-- 284 00:16:08,638 --> 00:16:10,872 Eugene, what's your impression of Randy Jefferson? 285 00:16:10,938 --> 00:16:13,472 I don't really know him. But that's not the point. 286 00:16:13,538 --> 00:16:15,572 Who or what he is is beside the point? 287 00:16:15,638 --> 00:16:18,872 What he is is black, among other things. There's a point to that. 288 00:16:18,938 --> 00:16:22,372 So this is a question of race with you? The death penalty is about race. 289 00:16:22,438 --> 00:16:26,105 The fact is if you're a person of color and you kill a white man in this country, 290 00:16:26,172 --> 00:16:29,472 or, God forbid, you do what they say Randy Jefferson did and kill a white girl, 291 00:16:29,538 --> 00:16:32,005 you are 12 times more likely to end up on death row... 292 00:16:32,072 --> 00:16:33,872 than a white man for killin' a black person. 293 00:16:33,938 --> 00:16:37,872 But that's not something you can actually argue in court. Nope. 294 00:16:37,938 --> 00:16:41,538 Can't argue that much in court. 295 00:16:44,938 --> 00:16:48,138 I'm looking for Tommy Cooperman. He's with a client, but-- 296 00:16:48,205 --> 00:16:51,105 What is this? They can't come in here. You can't come in here! 297 00:16:51,172 --> 00:16:55,472 Mr. Cooperman? Mr. Tommy Cooperman? Sir, you can't do this! 298 00:16:55,538 --> 00:16:57,838 I need to ask you questions about Randy Jefferson. 299 00:16:57,905 --> 00:17:00,272 Hold on. This is my office. I don't have to talk to you. 300 00:17:00,338 --> 00:17:03,672 Sharon, call Mitchell. No, call the police. He may be executed tonight. 301 00:17:03,738 --> 00:17:06,372 Look, I told you on the phone, that was a long time ago. It's over. 302 00:17:06,438 --> 00:17:08,438 I'll come back. No, hold on. 303 00:17:08,505 --> 00:17:10,705 Damn, will you turn that off? That was a client. 304 00:17:10,772 --> 00:17:14,672 Mr. Cooperman, I have a client who may be dead tomorrow. 305 00:17:14,738 --> 00:17:20,438 That's not my fault. Look, what do you want from me? 306 00:17:20,505 --> 00:17:24,372 I'm sorry about Randy. I did what I could. 307 00:17:24,438 --> 00:17:26,538 I'm not here to blame you. 308 00:17:26,605 --> 00:17:29,905 I need 10 minutes of your time to help save a man who may be innocent. 309 00:17:29,972 --> 00:17:32,072 You got 10 minutes? 310 00:17:47,305 --> 00:17:50,372 You, uh, okay in there? 311 00:17:50,438 --> 00:17:53,705 Yeah. You need anything? 312 00:17:53,772 --> 00:17:55,672 A cup of coffee? 313 00:17:57,772 --> 00:18:02,838 Okay, then, uh, I'm gonna go make a few phone calls, stay on top of things. 314 00:18:02,905 --> 00:18:04,938 You sure you're okay? 315 00:18:05,005 --> 00:18:07,138 I's fine. 316 00:18:07,205 --> 00:18:10,705 Then, uh, I'll see ya then. 317 00:18:14,772 --> 00:18:17,738 You ever have an operation? In a hospital, I mean? 318 00:18:17,805 --> 00:18:20,472 [ Interviewer ] No, actually, I haven't. 319 00:18:20,538 --> 00:18:23,138 I had my appendix out when I was 13. 320 00:18:23,205 --> 00:18:27,538 And they put a mask over your face and tell you to count backwards from 10. 321 00:18:27,605 --> 00:18:29,172 And then... nothing. 322 00:18:29,238 --> 00:18:32,205 That's how this goes. Faster. 323 00:18:32,272 --> 00:18:36,938 Except he'll never wake up. 324 00:18:37,005 --> 00:18:39,172 Bobby says not a fair trial. 325 00:18:39,238 --> 00:18:44,338 Okay, I think it's worth a look, or two, or three. 326 00:18:44,405 --> 00:18:47,372 But the way I read it, they pinned the guy. 327 00:18:47,438 --> 00:18:50,938 He's guilty, he pays the price. 328 00:18:51,005 --> 00:18:54,238 It's supposed to be the most humane way. 329 00:18:57,205 --> 00:19:00,172 And they just go to sleep. 330 00:19:00,238 --> 00:19:02,738 Like they do to a dog or a cat. 331 00:19:02,805 --> 00:19:05,338 They just go. 332 00:19:05,405 --> 00:19:08,072 It's merciful, right? 333 00:19:11,672 --> 00:19:17,272 As of 11:30 this morning, the state supreme court has denied Mr. Jefferson's latest appeal. 334 00:19:17,338 --> 00:19:19,438 My office has filed in federal district court... 335 00:19:19,505 --> 00:19:22,538 and we are confident they will uphold that ruling. 336 00:19:22,605 --> 00:19:26,172 Look. Eugene says Randy's old lawyer never heard of any lie detector. 337 00:19:26,238 --> 00:19:28,172 He says even though he was in over his head, 338 00:19:28,238 --> 00:19:30,438 he would have never ignored a polygraph result. 339 00:19:30,505 --> 00:19:33,405 Where are we with that witness, Frank Dugger? 340 00:19:33,472 --> 00:19:35,772 Uh, Lindsay, hold on. Call waiting. 341 00:19:35,838 --> 00:19:37,772 Yeah? 342 00:19:39,205 --> 00:19:42,972 Right. Right. Exit eight. 343 00:19:43,038 --> 00:19:46,105 Got it. Thanks. Thanks a lot. 344 00:19:46,172 --> 00:19:49,538 Okay. That was the parole officer. We got him. 345 00:19:49,605 --> 00:19:53,205 Dugger works at some burger joint off I-70. I'll head out there after-- 346 00:19:53,272 --> 00:19:55,572 Ah, we're just getting started here. 347 00:19:55,638 --> 00:19:59,038 Uh, I don't know when I'm gonna be done. I'll get Eugene. 348 00:19:59,105 --> 00:20:01,472 How you guys holdin' up? 349 00:20:01,538 --> 00:20:03,405 Yeah, me too. 350 00:20:03,472 --> 00:20:05,705 [ Walgren ] Yes, Alice? 351 00:20:05,772 --> 00:20:09,305 Is the Fifth Circuit considering anything not raised in state court? 352 00:20:09,372 --> 00:20:11,738 No. There are no new issues. 353 00:20:11,805 --> 00:20:15,605 This case has been litigated for seven years. 354 00:20:15,672 --> 00:20:18,772 It's almost over. [ Bobby ] Excuse me, Mr. Walgren. 355 00:20:18,838 --> 00:20:21,072 Mr. Donnell? We have information that a witness, Frank Dugger, 356 00:20:21,138 --> 00:20:23,505 may have been given a lie detector test by your office... 357 00:20:23,572 --> 00:20:26,105 prior to his testifying against Randy Jefferson. 358 00:20:26,172 --> 00:20:28,438 Do you have a comment? 359 00:20:28,505 --> 00:20:30,972 That is absolutely ridiculous. 360 00:20:31,038 --> 00:20:36,438 I will say this, Mr. Donnell. Mr. Dugger came forward voluntarily with his testimony. 361 00:20:36,505 --> 00:20:39,772 Based solely on the specificity and detail of that statement, 362 00:20:39,838 --> 00:20:42,038 my office concluded we had a credible witness. 363 00:20:42,105 --> 00:20:45,672 [ Woman ] Mr. Walgren. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you very much. 364 00:20:45,738 --> 00:20:50,572 We have a piece of evidence that Mr. Dugger did a lie detector test. 365 00:21:01,205 --> 00:21:03,272 I'm lookin' for Frank Dugger. 366 00:21:11,538 --> 00:21:13,972 Well, enlighten me. It's what I said. 367 00:21:14,038 --> 00:21:16,105 Whatever's there, that's what I said. 368 00:21:16,172 --> 00:21:20,072 Well, Frank, you said a lot of things over the years. The man killed her. 369 00:21:20,138 --> 00:21:24,005 Looked me right in the eyes and told me so. Told me how he stabbed her. 370 00:21:24,072 --> 00:21:28,472 And you took it upon yourself to inform the district attorney? I had to. 371 00:21:28,538 --> 00:21:33,005 You hear somethin' like that-- I was losin' sleep. 372 00:21:33,072 --> 00:21:36,938 And the D.A., Walgren, he accepted your story? Yeah. So? 373 00:21:37,005 --> 00:21:40,738 It didn't bother anybody that people you share cells with have a funny habit of confessing? 374 00:21:40,805 --> 00:21:45,072 Hey, I'm a good listener. When you came forward with Randy Jefferson's confession, 375 00:21:45,138 --> 00:21:48,038 did the D.A. give you a lie detector test? 376 00:21:48,105 --> 00:21:50,972 What? I read in the paper where you said they gave you a test. 377 00:21:51,038 --> 00:21:53,438 You read a lot of things in the paper. Did they give you a test? 378 00:21:53,505 --> 00:21:55,838 I don't recall. You don't recall? 379 00:21:55,905 --> 00:21:58,005 Frank, a man is about to die. 380 00:21:58,072 --> 00:22:02,205 If you are in any way responsible, I will never go away. 381 00:22:02,272 --> 00:22:05,172 You know how long "never" is? 382 00:22:09,705 --> 00:22:12,138 Not in front of them. 383 00:22:12,205 --> 00:22:14,972 Turn it off. 384 00:22:15,038 --> 00:22:16,838 [ Interviewer ] So, what's it like? 385 00:22:16,905 --> 00:22:20,372 It's like the air gettin' tighter, heatin' up. 386 00:22:20,438 --> 00:22:26,138 Like you want to rip off your clothes, but it ain't your clothes, it's everything. 387 00:22:26,205 --> 00:22:29,472 That's just what it's like. 388 00:22:29,538 --> 00:22:32,805 People say it's justice. But, the row-- 389 00:22:32,872 --> 00:22:36,205 the row ain't justice. 390 00:22:36,272 --> 00:22:39,772 You sittin' here waitin', knowin' they want to kill you. 391 00:22:41,872 --> 00:22:45,138 They want to kill you. 392 00:22:45,205 --> 00:22:47,338 And one day, they gonna do it. 393 00:22:47,405 --> 00:22:51,572 Maybe Randy's dyin' tonight, you know, but really, 394 00:22:53,505 --> 00:22:56,805 all of us, we're already dead. 395 00:23:07,772 --> 00:23:12,405 11:50, thereabouts, we'll initiate the preparation protocol-- 396 00:23:12,472 --> 00:23:15,772 fitting Jefferson to the table itself, attaching monitor cables, 397 00:23:15,838 --> 00:23:17,972 intravenous tube, et cetera. 398 00:23:18,038 --> 00:23:21,238 At 11:55, we'll do the final rundown, 399 00:23:21,305 --> 00:23:24,538 and I issue the execution order. 400 00:23:24,605 --> 00:23:29,238 Uh, at that point, we also, uh, seat the witnesses in the viewing area. 401 00:23:29,305 --> 00:23:31,672 At exactly one minute past the hour of 12:00, 402 00:23:31,738 --> 00:23:35,672 the technician initiates a flow of Sodium Pentothal. 403 00:23:35,738 --> 00:23:38,038 That's a barbiturate, puts him to sleep. 404 00:23:38,105 --> 00:23:42,705 And after that, pancuronium bromide and potassium chloride... 405 00:23:42,772 --> 00:23:45,372 are administered in lethal concentrations. 406 00:23:45,438 --> 00:23:49,305 And that is it. I don't foresee any complications. 407 00:23:49,372 --> 00:23:51,938 Of course you never know. How do you mean? 408 00:23:52,005 --> 00:23:54,772 Well, no system's foolproof. 409 00:23:54,838 --> 00:23:57,905 Particularly when it comes to the ending of human life. 410 00:23:57,972 --> 00:24:02,138 Uh, life is tenacious. Like hope, I guess. Sorry? 411 00:24:02,205 --> 00:24:05,072 Uh, this is where I have to leave you. 412 00:24:06,938 --> 00:24:08,905 [ Interviewer ] Mr. Carson-- Get off my porch. 413 00:24:08,972 --> 00:24:11,538 Sir, if you just have a minute-- No, we don't have a minute. 414 00:24:11,605 --> 00:24:14,205 We don't have any more time for you people. It's all right, honey. 415 00:24:14,272 --> 00:24:16,072 They're leaving. Okay, Mr. Carson, we-- 416 00:24:16,138 --> 00:24:18,772 You didn't tell me that you were talking to Randy Jefferson. 417 00:24:18,838 --> 00:24:21,138 Uh, yes, we did. What are you trying to do, make him a cause? 418 00:24:21,205 --> 00:24:24,372 No, not at all. You gonna make a nice good-bye film for him? Hmm? 419 00:24:24,438 --> 00:24:28,105 Gonna let the whole world see him as human? 420 00:24:28,172 --> 00:24:30,538 Well, my daughter didn't get to say good-bye. 421 00:24:30,605 --> 00:24:33,505 Nothin' human about what he did to her. 422 00:24:35,205 --> 00:24:38,572 [ People Chattering ] 423 00:24:38,638 --> 00:24:41,105 [ Man ] So, he picks me up, puts me in the cart. 424 00:24:41,172 --> 00:24:45,505 I said, "Mama won't let me." He said, "Mama said it's all right." 425 00:24:45,572 --> 00:24:48,205 Then he pushed me down the hill. 426 00:24:48,272 --> 00:24:51,538 [ All Chattering, Laughing ] 427 00:24:57,538 --> 00:24:59,538 [ Woman ] That's why they never won. 428 00:25:00,805 --> 00:25:03,705 We won a few games. What you talkin' about? 429 00:25:03,772 --> 00:25:06,505 We did good. 430 00:25:06,572 --> 00:25:08,505 [ Chuckles ] 431 00:25:14,305 --> 00:25:16,405 I'm gonna miss you. 432 00:25:22,638 --> 00:25:24,538 Excuse me? 433 00:25:27,772 --> 00:25:29,672 Are you my son's lawyer? 434 00:25:29,738 --> 00:25:34,438 I'm, uh, part of the team for your son. 435 00:25:34,505 --> 00:25:38,638 I just wanted to thank you for all your hard work on his behalf. 436 00:25:38,705 --> 00:25:41,405 Uh, it was nothing. 437 00:25:41,472 --> 00:25:45,138 And for believin' in him all this time. 438 00:25:45,205 --> 00:25:49,072 I, uh-- You're welcome. 439 00:25:49,138 --> 00:25:51,338 Carl? Darius? 440 00:25:51,405 --> 00:25:55,105 That's Carl. This is Randy's brother. 441 00:25:55,172 --> 00:25:59,505 And Darius. Come shake the man's hand, Darius. 442 00:25:59,572 --> 00:26:01,805 Hey, Darius. 443 00:26:01,872 --> 00:26:04,905 And that's my mother. 444 00:26:04,972 --> 00:26:07,072 Come here, Mama. 445 00:26:07,138 --> 00:26:11,238 We just want this to be over with. We want to get on with our lives. 446 00:26:12,438 --> 00:26:16,005 Bloodlust. Makes for good ratings. What? 447 00:26:16,072 --> 00:26:19,505 That's the reason they took the business of justice out of the hands of the victims. 448 00:26:19,572 --> 00:26:22,338 Oh, I see. So, they shouldn't be allowed to grieve? 449 00:26:22,405 --> 00:26:24,405 That's not what I mean. Well, what do you mean, Lindsay? 450 00:26:24,472 --> 00:26:27,905 If the governor sees that, we can't expect the government to be objective these days. 451 00:26:27,972 --> 00:26:30,638 They just want some closure. Is that so hard for you to understand? 452 00:26:30,705 --> 00:26:33,172 Eleanor, I didn't mean it. I know what you mean. 453 00:26:33,238 --> 00:26:35,805 Okay. Eugene came through. 454 00:26:35,872 --> 00:26:38,905 They did give Dugger a polygraph, and Randy's old lawyer never heard of it. 455 00:26:38,972 --> 00:26:44,472 Now we find the technician who administered the polygraph, and we're right back in this. 456 00:26:44,538 --> 00:26:47,805 All right, this-- I want to see their record. 457 00:26:47,872 --> 00:26:52,405 Yeah, okay, okay, I thought you'd finally get around to me. 458 00:26:52,472 --> 00:26:55,338 I gotta tell you, your timing's a little shaky on this. 459 00:26:55,405 --> 00:26:57,605 Uh-- 460 00:26:57,672 --> 00:26:59,805 All right, look, my position, if you want to call it that-- 461 00:26:59,872 --> 00:27:04,005 I usually prefer not to speak in absolutes, but-- 462 00:27:04,072 --> 00:27:07,538 My position has changed somewhat over time. 463 00:27:07,605 --> 00:27:11,205 No, actually, I know exactly when my position changed. 464 00:27:11,272 --> 00:27:15,572 April 27, 1991, when my very best friend... 465 00:27:15,638 --> 00:27:19,305 let some guy into her walk-up on East 73rd Street in New York. 466 00:27:19,372 --> 00:27:22,672 Yeah, supposed to be this great neighborhood, right? 467 00:27:22,738 --> 00:27:28,438 And he, uh-- he followed her upstairs, and he somehow got her up to the roof... 468 00:27:28,505 --> 00:27:32,138 and he, uh-- he stabbed her and he killed her. 469 00:27:34,572 --> 00:27:38,505 Anyway, before, uh, Lisa's death, I was fervently anti-death. 470 00:27:38,572 --> 00:27:42,805 I mean, loudly anti-death. I-- 471 00:27:42,872 --> 00:27:46,438 I would have had bumper stickers on my car, if I had a car. 472 00:27:49,305 --> 00:27:52,772 But you know, when I think of Lisa, 473 00:27:52,838 --> 00:27:56,172 so frightened up on that roof-- 474 00:27:56,238 --> 00:27:58,738 She wanted to have kids, you know? 475 00:27:58,805 --> 00:28:02,438 And then I think of him, the butt-wipe that killed her, 476 00:28:02,505 --> 00:28:07,805 and how he must have smiled to have such a pretty girl up on that roof with him. 477 00:28:11,505 --> 00:28:15,572 Actually, my position hasn't changed. 478 00:28:15,638 --> 00:28:20,105 But let's just say, uh, I have a car now. 479 00:28:20,172 --> 00:28:23,005 No bumper stickers. [ Door Opens ] 480 00:28:23,072 --> 00:28:24,938 Is that enough? [ Bobby ] Ellie? 481 00:28:25,005 --> 00:28:29,372 If you're finished with your close-up, the governor just rang. 482 00:28:29,438 --> 00:28:31,538 Yeah. 483 00:28:31,605 --> 00:28:34,438 [ Woman Over TV ] In rejecting Jefferson's last-minute plea, 484 00:28:34,505 --> 00:28:36,305 Governor Benning said that in his opinion-- 485 00:28:36,372 --> 00:28:40,038 I'm seein' it on the television. Just like that, huh? 486 00:28:40,105 --> 00:28:43,638 Attorneys for the condemned man expressed their dismay with the governor's ruling-- 487 00:28:43,705 --> 00:28:47,238 So, uh, you called Randy, right? I mean, uh, you told him, I hope. 488 00:28:47,305 --> 00:28:50,505 'Cause, uh, I'm not so good with bad news. 489 00:28:50,572 --> 00:28:52,672 Thanks. 490 00:28:52,738 --> 00:28:56,438 Listen, Bobby, I'd like to get out of here now. 491 00:28:56,505 --> 00:28:59,172 Bobby, you know I get conflicted feelings. 492 00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:03,138 I'm tryin' to tell you, it's not comfortable-- 493 00:29:03,205 --> 00:29:06,872 Yeah. Right. 494 00:29:06,938 --> 00:29:09,172 Okay. 495 00:29:09,238 --> 00:29:13,138 Yeah. I knew I'd get this speech. 496 00:29:13,205 --> 00:29:16,338 Whatever. Yeah. 497 00:29:16,405 --> 00:29:18,805 Sure. 498 00:29:18,872 --> 00:29:20,772 [ Sighs ] 499 00:29:38,038 --> 00:29:40,138 [ Door Closes ] 500 00:29:52,538 --> 00:29:55,838 [ Man ] Chicken teriyaki with extra teriyaki sauce. 501 00:29:58,238 --> 00:30:02,172 You like that Chinese food? Yep. 502 00:30:02,238 --> 00:30:04,805 Some strawberry ice cream. Some Twinkies. 503 00:30:04,872 --> 00:30:08,305 You like them one on top of the other, right? Yeah, that's the way I like 'em. 504 00:30:08,372 --> 00:30:11,072 And we got ya some lobster. 505 00:30:12,905 --> 00:30:15,838 You ever had lobster before? When I was a kid. 506 00:30:18,072 --> 00:30:20,072 [ Guard ] You know how to eat it? 507 00:30:20,138 --> 00:30:23,405 [ Jefferson ] I know how to eat this thing. 508 00:30:26,905 --> 00:30:30,772 Watch out, Randy, bite your head off. [ Laughing ] 509 00:30:30,838 --> 00:30:32,772 Look. 510 00:30:35,172 --> 00:30:37,672 All the good stuff's inside. 511 00:30:37,738 --> 00:30:41,205 You gotta break it open. 512 00:30:41,272 --> 00:30:45,072 Usually you use like, uh, pliers or something. 513 00:30:54,272 --> 00:30:56,538 Yeah, that's the meat in there. 514 00:30:58,238 --> 00:31:02,172 Okay. Hold on. Now you need some butter. 515 00:31:02,238 --> 00:31:04,372 It's no good without butter. Butter? 516 00:31:04,438 --> 00:31:07,672 You got any butter? And, like, a microwave? 517 00:31:14,972 --> 00:31:17,938 Here. 518 00:31:18,005 --> 00:31:20,538 Go for it. Take a big swipe. 519 00:31:22,172 --> 00:31:24,772 Now pop it in your mouth. 520 00:31:28,872 --> 00:31:31,538 So? Good, huh? 521 00:31:33,172 --> 00:31:35,272 It's good. 522 00:31:38,372 --> 00:31:42,572 Mr. Rintels? Hi, my name is Eleanor Frutt. I'm an attorney. 523 00:31:42,638 --> 00:31:45,938 And I was wondering if your security firm was using polygraph analysis... 524 00:31:46,005 --> 00:31:49,572 seven years ago in the Overland area? 525 00:31:49,638 --> 00:31:51,672 I see. Okay. Well, thank you very much for your time. 526 00:31:51,738 --> 00:31:53,772 That's it. We're set to go. How much more time? 527 00:31:53,838 --> 00:31:56,472 None. His clerk was expecting our filing 12 minutes ago. 528 00:31:56,538 --> 00:31:58,872 Bobby, we can't wait any longer. We don't have enough. 529 00:31:58,938 --> 00:32:01,872 Don't you think the affidavit from Frank Dugger at least raises the question? 530 00:32:01,938 --> 00:32:04,605 They're not holding up this execution on the word of some ex-con. 531 00:32:04,672 --> 00:32:06,705 But they'll kill him based on his word. 532 00:32:06,772 --> 00:32:09,305 What about a temporary stay pending a review of Walgren's old files? 533 00:32:09,372 --> 00:32:14,538 Fishing. There has to be some record of that test! 534 00:32:14,605 --> 00:32:16,672 Five minutes, then we go with what we have. 535 00:32:16,738 --> 00:32:20,672 Maybe we could get a subpoena, or we'll find a judge-- I got it! I got it! 536 00:32:20,738 --> 00:32:24,172 And you conducted a test on Frank Dugger in the Randy Jefferson case? 537 00:32:24,238 --> 00:32:26,572 Uh-huh. I understand. I understand. 538 00:32:26,638 --> 00:32:30,105 No, no, no. I know. It was just internal. Yes! 539 00:32:30,172 --> 00:32:34,172 Mr. Gordon, would you be willing to sign a statement based on what you just told me? 540 00:32:34,238 --> 00:32:37,238 That would be great. Could you just hold on one second, please? Thank you. 541 00:32:37,305 --> 00:32:39,872 He says he remembers the test. He says that Dugger tested borderline... 542 00:32:39,938 --> 00:32:42,572 and that he went to Walgren's office and told him all about it way back when, 543 00:32:42,638 --> 00:32:44,905 and then they never responded. Walgren sat on it. 544 00:32:44,972 --> 00:32:48,072 That's it. Type something up. Lindsay, make the call. Tell 'em 10 minutes. 545 00:32:48,138 --> 00:32:50,238 Can you believe this? Let's move! 546 00:32:51,486 --> 00:32:53,786 First time was by lottery. 547 00:32:53,853 --> 00:32:58,419 I just felt so strongly that this man was deserving of death. 548 00:32:58,486 --> 00:33:01,753 And it's biblical-- a life for a life. 549 00:33:01,819 --> 00:33:05,586 And if I felt that way, I wasn't going to stick my head in the sand. 550 00:33:05,653 --> 00:33:08,586 I was going to back it up by action. 551 00:33:08,653 --> 00:33:10,653 So when they made the lottery available, 552 00:33:10,719 --> 00:33:15,386 I signed up first thing and got picked. 553 00:33:15,453 --> 00:33:20,786 Simple, really. You just gotta know how to handle the syringe and be steady about it. 554 00:33:20,853 --> 00:33:25,219 You aren't even in the room, so there is no public relations of any kind. 555 00:33:25,286 --> 00:33:29,686 That's nine men you've executed in, uh, how long a period of time? 556 00:33:29,753 --> 00:33:32,953 That would be... just this year. 557 00:33:33,019 --> 00:33:37,353 But let me clear something up. I don't execute them. 558 00:33:37,419 --> 00:33:40,153 I just carry out a procedure. 559 00:33:40,219 --> 00:33:42,353 The state executes 'em. 560 00:33:42,419 --> 00:33:44,653 The people do. 561 00:33:44,719 --> 00:33:47,319 I'm just a pair of willing hands. 562 00:33:47,386 --> 00:33:50,686 "Be honest in your estimate of yourselves, measuring your value... 563 00:33:50,753 --> 00:33:53,819 by how much faith God has given you"-- 564 00:33:53,886 --> 00:33:57,519 Father? Father? You have a phone call. Robert something. The Coalition to-- 565 00:33:57,586 --> 00:34:02,053 Thanks. You'll be okay? Back in a minute. 566 00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:04,019 He'll be okay? Sure. 567 00:34:12,353 --> 00:34:14,686 Man, I ate too much of that. 568 00:34:14,753 --> 00:34:18,353 You want a bromo or somethin'? I'll be okay. 569 00:34:18,419 --> 00:34:22,053 Just, uh, take it easy. I mean, it takes time. 570 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:25,986 There was a guy so fat once, they buried him in a piano case. 571 00:34:26,053 --> 00:34:29,853 Where'd you hear that? Book of World Records. 572 00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:31,953 Got a copy right over there. 573 00:34:35,753 --> 00:34:38,753 Wow. I used to have one of these. 574 00:34:41,219 --> 00:34:43,453 Man, give me that. 575 00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:46,519 Read everything there is to know in this book. 576 00:34:52,086 --> 00:34:54,619 Check that man out. 577 00:34:54,686 --> 00:34:58,653 [ Whistles ] That is a fat man. 578 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,253 1069 pounds. 579 00:35:03,486 --> 00:35:06,319 I don't want to be buried in no case. 580 00:35:07,853 --> 00:35:09,786 And no box. 581 00:35:16,186 --> 00:35:18,319 How tall was the tallest man? 582 00:35:18,386 --> 00:35:21,619 Huh? Ah, that's easy-- 8 foot 11. 583 00:35:21,686 --> 00:35:24,719 Tallest woman? Seven foot 7 and a half. 584 00:35:24,786 --> 00:35:27,953 Tallest man who was not technically a giant? 585 00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:35,253 Aha. 586 00:35:39,753 --> 00:35:41,653 [ Chuckles ] 587 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,486 Attorneys for convicted murderer Randall Jefferson... 588 00:35:43,553 --> 00:35:47,386 now claim to have new evidence which they hope will save their client's life. 589 00:35:47,453 --> 00:35:49,919 In a last-minute filing in federal court this evening, 590 00:35:49,986 --> 00:35:52,353 it was revealed that one of the state's key witnesses... 591 00:35:52,419 --> 00:35:54,719 may have been given a lie detector test. 592 00:35:54,786 --> 00:35:57,319 Great. Thanks. Bye. 593 00:35:57,386 --> 00:35:59,353 That was Ronnie Pratt. He's clerking for Addison. 594 00:35:59,419 --> 00:36:01,386 The two of us were summer associates together. 595 00:36:01,453 --> 00:36:03,719 He thinks we definitely have four judges leaning our way. 596 00:36:03,786 --> 00:36:07,353 Eleven of them on the panel. Three more, we got it. What about Burton? 597 00:36:07,419 --> 00:36:09,853 Burton? Wait a second. I thought we had Burton. 598 00:36:09,919 --> 00:36:12,186 They can't find him. He took his family to dinner theater tonight. 599 00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:17,453 Either Plaza Suite gets out early, or we get the alternate-- Philip Zaiac, the hanging Cuban. 600 00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:20,619 Fastest car was Craig Breedlove, Spirit of America. 601 00:36:20,686 --> 00:36:24,386 Then along came Gary what's-his-name, uh, with the Blue Flame. See? 602 00:36:24,453 --> 00:36:27,986 Only that was a rocket. So folks didn't know whether to grant him the record. 603 00:36:28,053 --> 00:36:29,953 Hmm. Mm-hmm. 604 00:36:30,019 --> 00:36:35,519 You see? It wasn't really a car. It was just a rocket on wheels. 605 00:36:35,586 --> 00:36:38,653 Hmm. I think they should have gave it to him. 606 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,519 Yeah. Yeah. 607 00:36:41,586 --> 00:36:44,653 Fastest man wins. I'm with you. 608 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,586 [ Footsteps Approaching ] 609 00:36:51,153 --> 00:36:53,419 [ Sighs ] Counselor. 610 00:36:53,486 --> 00:36:55,886 How you feelin', Randy? You have a good dinner? 611 00:36:55,953 --> 00:36:59,053 I heard you had lobster. Yeah, with some butter. 612 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:03,019 Good. Good. Uh, I need to go over a few things with you... 613 00:37:03,086 --> 00:37:07,319 about what's gonna happen in the next couple of hours, okay? 614 00:37:07,386 --> 00:37:12,786 Uh, approximately 11:30, we're gonna move you to a waiting area. 615 00:37:12,853 --> 00:37:17,553 Now, uh, Father Maloney will be with you and your lawyer here. 616 00:37:17,619 --> 00:37:20,653 You'll be there about 15 minutes. 617 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,519 [ Guard ] Mr. Berluti? Phone for you. 618 00:37:24,986 --> 00:37:30,019 Oh, my God, yes! All right! Hey, congratulations, Bob-- 619 00:37:30,086 --> 00:37:34,386 I know, not yet. We'll wait. 620 00:37:34,453 --> 00:37:37,753 You comin' down here? All right, I'll see you soon. 621 00:37:43,986 --> 00:37:47,286 They gave him a stay! They gave him a stay! 622 00:37:47,353 --> 00:37:49,353 [ Prisoners Cheering ] 623 00:37:49,419 --> 00:37:52,219 I just got the call. Fifth Circuit agreed that there was a question... 624 00:37:52,286 --> 00:37:55,319 as to the propriety of the D.A.'s office at the time of trial. 625 00:37:55,386 --> 00:38:00,853 It's kicked to the Supreme Court, but as of this moment, you got a stay. 626 00:38:03,453 --> 00:38:05,853 Oh, my God. I got a stay. 627 00:38:09,653 --> 00:38:12,719 [ Jimmy ] Okay. [ Laughing ] 628 00:38:14,286 --> 00:38:17,319 [ Chattering ] 629 00:38:20,086 --> 00:38:23,053 [ Walgren Sighs ] You happy? The man is my client. 630 00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:24,953 The man is a killer. I did my job. 631 00:38:25,019 --> 00:38:27,419 You sound like you're runnin' for somethin'. You don't know me. 632 00:38:27,486 --> 00:38:32,819 You don't know my office. If you withheld a lie detector result, I know enough. 633 00:38:32,886 --> 00:38:35,619 You know, I asked some buddies of mine up north what they knew about you. 634 00:38:35,686 --> 00:38:38,353 Did you? They felt it was a bit hypocritical for you... 635 00:38:38,419 --> 00:38:42,386 to be setting ethical standards anywhere. 636 00:38:42,453 --> 00:38:44,886 Let alone so far from home. 637 00:38:44,953 --> 00:38:46,786 I'll see you in court. 638 00:38:46,853 --> 00:38:49,253 I doubt it. 639 00:38:50,986 --> 00:38:54,353 How ya doin'? So-so. 640 00:38:54,419 --> 00:38:57,153 May I have your attention, please? We have just received word... 641 00:38:57,219 --> 00:39:01,886 that the United States Supreme Court has lifted the stay of execution. 642 00:39:01,953 --> 00:39:04,753 We will proceed. 643 00:39:04,819 --> 00:39:08,686 [ Chattering ] 644 00:39:10,853 --> 00:39:13,019 I better go tell him. 645 00:39:15,486 --> 00:39:19,586 No. Bobby, listen. 646 00:39:19,653 --> 00:39:23,686 If you don't mind, I'd like to tell him. 647 00:39:56,753 --> 00:40:00,453 [ Guard ] Open eight! [ Gate Buzzing ] 648 00:40:32,319 --> 00:40:34,419 [ Door Opens ] 649 00:40:41,153 --> 00:40:43,319 Randy? 650 00:41:02,253 --> 00:41:04,353 Go with God, my son. 651 00:41:06,419 --> 00:41:08,486 [ Interviewer ] Thank you. 652 00:41:34,753 --> 00:41:36,986 Randy. 653 00:41:39,235 --> 00:41:41,235 [ Langston ] Let me just make a brief statement. 654 00:41:41,301 --> 00:41:46,835 Shortly after midnight at the Cedar Springs Maximum Security Facility, 655 00:41:46,901 --> 00:41:51,201 the sentence of death was carried out upon Randall DeWitt Jefferson. 656 00:41:52,801 --> 00:41:55,035 At 12:02, the procedure was initiated. 657 00:41:55,101 --> 00:41:58,501 By 12:03, the condemned was fully unconscious... 658 00:41:58,568 --> 00:42:02,368 and death was pronounced just a few minutes ago... 659 00:42:02,435 --> 00:42:05,301 at exactly 12:19. 660 00:42:06,835 --> 00:42:09,601 His final words were... 661 00:42:09,668 --> 00:42:13,268 that he was innocent of the crime for which he had been convicted, 662 00:42:13,335 --> 00:42:16,768 that he asked pardon of any people he had hurt, 663 00:42:16,835 --> 00:42:20,668 and, uh, for their prayers. 664 00:42:20,735 --> 00:42:23,301 [ Reporters All Chattering At Once ] 665 00:42:34,201 --> 00:42:36,401 [ Footsteps Approaching ] 666 00:42:36,468 --> 00:42:40,901 Jimmy? We're headin' down. You want to come? Bobby's already down there. 667 00:42:40,968 --> 00:42:43,801 Nah. Thanks. 668 00:42:43,868 --> 00:42:45,835 I'm beat. You sure? 669 00:42:45,901 --> 00:42:48,635 Yeah. Maybe I'll watch some TV. 670 00:42:48,701 --> 00:42:50,668 Yeah. Okay. Good night. 671 00:42:50,735 --> 00:42:53,101 See you in the morning. Good night. 672 00:43:29,135 --> 00:43:31,435 The Spirit of America. 673 00:43:31,501 --> 00:43:33,368 [ Interviewer ] Sorry? 674 00:43:35,068 --> 00:43:38,468 Why don't you go get a drink, okay? Okay. 675 00:43:38,535 --> 00:43:40,835 Look, Jimmy, I, uh-- 676 00:43:40,901 --> 00:43:44,535 I just have one more question. What? 677 00:43:44,601 --> 00:43:47,668 Look, I don't know if it's appropriate, but, uh, 678 00:43:47,735 --> 00:43:51,301 do you still maintain your former feeling about the death penalty? 679 00:43:54,168 --> 00:43:57,035 I've answered enough questions today. 680 00:44:27,601 --> 00:44:29,301 [ Woman ] You stinker! 59935

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