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Surgeons are kind of like superheroes.
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Because when things go badly wrong
and we're in deep trouble,
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they're the ones we look to... to save us.
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Who else are you willing to trust
with your life?
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A discovery right out of a movie script.
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The transplant of an organ
that was, in part, grown in a lab.
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- Paolo Macchiarini...
- ...was kind of like a superhero.
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He's on a mission to save the world.
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He was a miracle man.
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We are trying
to create new organs.
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We need to progress.
We need new ways to do a transplantation.
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He actually believes that
he can alleviate the world from suffering.
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It was said
that Paolo was the private surgeon
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of the president of the United States,
the pope.
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If you had a checklist of all the things
that you wanted in a man, he was it.
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He checked every single box.
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Know that I love you. Every day more.
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He's intelligent, worldly.
He spoke all these different languages.
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Love you.
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But everything was a lie.
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Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck you!
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Everybody had been fooled by this man.
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I was engaged to a monster.
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Paolo was an absolute fraudster.
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That's why we had to stop him.
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Paolo Macchiarini treated people
as human lab rats.
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She was coughing up
pieces of her own flesh.
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The first liver transplant,
the first kidney transplant,
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the first heart transplant...
Did they go all well?
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No.
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I think that this is the future.
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The next patients,
everything will be better.
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The question is,
was he torturing people to death?
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It's the biggest con in medical history.
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This guy might be an impostor,
but he might also be a genius.
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Maybe he is on the way to save mankind.
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Was this guy a superhero,
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a supersurgeon, and the love of my life?
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Or was he a dangerous con man
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and a killer?
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In journalism,
there's a kind of sacred rule.
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You don't get involved
with the subject of a story.
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As a journalist,
you're supposed to be objective.
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As you're telling a story,
you spend a lot of time with people,
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and you spend a lot of time with them
in intimate situations,
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and you certainly can't get involved
personally with somebody,
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in a relationship,
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because then your objectivity
could go flying out the window.
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And there's a very good reason
that this sort of invisible line exists,
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because it just helps maintain,
you know, the integrity of journalism.
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But, unfortunately, you know,
it just didn't happen like that.
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I've wanted to be a journalist
since I was very young.
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I was very shy growing up.
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Painfully shy, actually.
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I never wanted to be the one,
you know, in front of the camera.
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I much preferred being behind the camera.
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I was at the height of my career.
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I loved my job at NBC.
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I was a single mother,
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and I wasn't focused on having,
you know, a relationship.
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NBC wanted to do a story
about regenerative medicine,
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which I had never heard of.
I didn't know what this thing is.
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And so we start researching the story.
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It's this very exciting,
promising field in medicine
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where the goal is to get to the place
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where you can get replacement organs
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or body parts just like this, you know.
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The idea would be that you lose a limb,
or you have a diseased organ,
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you just go get a new one at the lab.
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And this one name keeps popping up.
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It's Dr. Paolo Macchiarini.
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He is said to be
the pioneer of this field.
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From a landmark surgery
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to a discovery
right out of a movie script.
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Doctors are celebrating
a medical first tonight.
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The transplant of an organ
that was, in part, grown in a lab.
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Prof. Paolo Macchiarini at
Karolinska University Hospital, Stockholm,
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performed the surgery
with the help of an international team.
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His nickname
was The Supersurgeon.
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He was adored and adulated.
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He had almost this godlike status.
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He had burst onto the world scene
and into headlines
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by doing this very innovative procedure
using stem cells.
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{n8}Surgeons in Sweden have carried out
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{n8}the world's first transplant
of a synthetic organ.
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A 36-year-old man suffering from cancer
received a new windpipe.
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The first reaction was just to look at me
and say, "Well, you're crazy."
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And he said, "Well?"
And I said, "Yes, I am."
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"But this is your only chance
you have right now."
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"But how much is the success rate?"
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And I said, "I don't know."
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"Why?"
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"I never did it before."
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He was replacing the windpipe
with a plastic windpipe.
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They would bathe this plastic windpipe
in the patient's own stem cells,
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and then the idea was
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that the stem cells would integrate
into this plastic tube,
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and then this was being transplanted
into the patient.
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In article after article,
he's described as kind of the renegade.
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He's the one who's willing
to take risks that nobody else will take.
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The more complex the surgery is,
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the more higher
the chances of risk you take.
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The first liver transplant,
the first kidney transplant,
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the first heart transplant...
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Did they go all well?
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No.
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We don't have the magic crystal to show...
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to look in the future.
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I think that this is the future.
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I just thought, "Okay, this guy's bold."
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He wanted to do something
that nobody else was doing,
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to save people who had no other hope.
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I said, "Look," to my team.
"This is the person we need to call."
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And so we had made
arrangements to meet him,
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and I was with my colleague,
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and I look up, and he walks in,
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and he looks right at me.
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And our eyes just met. Like, locked. And...
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He kind of gave me this little smile,
this little smirk, and I... instantly,
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I felt like a silly little schoolgirl.
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And this all happened so fast.
Just in a split second.
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And my first thought is,
"What the hell was that?" You know?
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And my second thought is,
"Whatever the hell that was,
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don't think about it."
You know? Just like...
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I'm... I'm... I'm forcing myself.
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I'm in total work, producer mode.
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I kind of, like, internally,
pulled myself together.
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I think I was probably blushing,
quite frankly, you know, and...
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But something happened. Our eyes locked.
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And there was this... spark.
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Immediately, I was a little thrown off.
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{n8}This next story is a remarkable one
about how stem cell technology
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{n8}is changing the game and saving lives.
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Two-year-old Hannah Warren
was born without a windpipe.
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There was one solution.
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At the time, Dr. Macchiarini
was working on the case of this toddler,
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Hannah Warren,
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that would be
the youngest person in the world
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to ever get one of his
groundbreaking transplants.
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She couldn't eat, she couldn't swallow,
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she couldn't do anything
that a normal little toddler can do,
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and had spent
her entire life in the hospital.
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But she had all this personality.
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She had this infectious thing about her.
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Hannah was a magical child.
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She was like pure sunshine.
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Give Daddy a kiss.
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Mwah! Mwah!
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Her parents were desperate.
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They had almost lost her so many times.
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They had almost given up on her.
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And then they found Dr. Paolo Macchiarini.
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- Hello.
- Thank you.
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I think one of the things
that's so endearing about Paolo...
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He's not your typical surgeon.
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It really looked like he really cared.
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Do you want this taken out?
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This feels like somebody
that you can trust.
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This feels like somebody
that has your best interests at heart.
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We had decided that we wanted to do
the story about Hannah,
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and, obviously, Dr. Paolo Macchiarini
is a huge part of this story.
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The surgery
was going to be done in Illinois,
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and Paolo was planning
on spending about a month there.
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And so I had to make
several trips to Illinois to do filming.
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When we were filming Paolo,
we started joking
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that he had this George Clooney
kind of thing going on
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because Paolo loves motorcycles.
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And he's on that motorcycle,
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and he's owning that motorcycle.
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There are a lot of women in the office
that were kind of swooning. Like, "Ooh."
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And we wanted to get footage
of Paolo on a motorcycle,
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so we rent him a motorcycle.
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And they film him, you know,
riding around on the motorcycle.
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Then I think we had a few hours
or something left on the rental.
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He said, "Does anyone want a ride?"
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I was sort of hesitant.
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I looked around and said,
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"Anyone else want to go?"
And they said, "No, go."
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He puts the helmet on me,
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and he was very tenderly,
like, strapping the thing,
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trying to fit it on my head.
I was struggling with it.
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I remember at that moment
feeling a little bit of what I had felt
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that first time our eyes connected
in the restaurant in Boston.
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It felt intimate, in a way,
and it felt flirtatious.
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And I got on the back
of that motorcycle with him.
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He said, "You need to hold me tightly
because I'm gonna go fast."
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When you're on the back of a motorcycle,
you've kinda got to snuggle into somebody.
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It was a beautiful day.
The wind is whipping.
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I am holding him.
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And I remember joking
afterwards to my friends, like,
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"I rode on a motorcycle
with George Clooney."
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We started going out to dinner
in between shoots, or at the end of a day,
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and I was so blown away
by the fact that this man,
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this supersurgeon,
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is so caring... and
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so willing to just listen to me
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and has taken so much interest.
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Not long after
he took me on the motorcycle,
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we went out one night to dinner.
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We were staying at this hotel in Illinois.
I think we were about two floors apart.
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We were in the elevator,
and it was just the two of us.
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And his floor was first.
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And the doors open.
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He says good night,
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and then he backs out
of the elevator very slowly.
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And he was holding
the door open with his hand,
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and he's just kind of looking at me,
and I'm, like, looking at him,
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and the doors start to close,
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and he backs out,
and I'm saying good night,
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and then, all of a sudden,
he pushes the elevator with both hands,
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and he just leans in, and he kisses me.
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It was such a surprise.
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But also so damn romantic.
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It was like out of a movie.
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And I just thought, "Shit."
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"I'm falling for this man."
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My second thought was...
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"Shit. Uh-oh."
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"I'm not supposed to fall for this man.
We're still filming him."
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Okay, give me a hug.
Give me a kiss.
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Mwah. I love you so much.
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Did I brush my teeth?
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Yes. Your breath don't stink.
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- Ah. Hey! Hey!
- Yeah, I'm gonna tickle you.
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I'm gonna tickle you.
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My brother was
very passionate about being a dad
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and being the best person
he could for his daughter.
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I was nine years older than Christopher,
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so I enjoyed having him
as a little brother.
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I really did. I loved him a lot.
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He has a little girl. Erin.
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And, uh...
Erin looks just like him.
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Chris had just turned 30.
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We found out that he had a growth...
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...on his windpipe.
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And... my heart dropped.
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It was a shock to us.
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And he was devastated
but, soon afterwards,
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he became determined
that he was going to beat this.
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He said he wanted to stay alive for Erin.
He wanted to walk her down the aisle.
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Chris Lyles went
to a specialist. Within 24 hours,
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the 30-year-old learned he had cancer.
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He soon learned the prognosis.
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Uh, I'll be dead in six months.
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You know, and I have
a positive attitude about it.
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Every person I talk to that has cancer,
or dealt with somebody that has cancer,
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they said you gotta stay positive.
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He immediately started
radiation and chemotherapy.
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But every last person came back
with the same answer of,
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"I'm sorry.
There's nothing else he can do."
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I felt like I had to do something.
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And one night I was sleeping,
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and I woke up from a dream.
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Something just told me... stem cells.
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My husband started just doing a search.
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We found an article, and then some video
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of Dr. Macchiarini
with Diane Sawyer from ABC News.
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Now in medical news, a breakthrough.
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A report that a doctor
has found a way to grow
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a new windpipe for patients with cancer.
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It was just shocking to even... watch it.
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{n8}It's considered
the holy grail in its field.
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A transplant of the trachea.
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And last month,
Dr. Paolo Macchiarini did it twice.
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{n8}My husband
decided to send a message.
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Dr. Macchiarini responded.
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"I think I can help your brother."
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Those words were the first words
we ever heard from anyone...
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From anyone...
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...that said that they could help.
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There was my hope.
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Maybe Chris was gonna live.
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If you can take out the tumor completely,
then... it is curative.
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So you can expect
to have a very long, uh, survival.
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He and Chris started having
their own personal talks,
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discussions, through Skype.
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Chris initially thought that they
just connected really immediately,
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like it was this instant...
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...trust.
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He really came out
of that conversation with,
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"Yeah, I definitely want to do this."
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I'm gonna be gone
for a little while, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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You know I'm gonna be gone for a while?
You know why? Do you remember why?
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What did I tell you?
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Remember that I was telling you
that Daddy was sick?
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- Yes.
- Yes?
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We knew that it was
experimental surgery, for sure.
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We knew that because
the US government wasn't even allowing
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that to be done in our country.
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If you have a patient that is dying, uh,
and you think that... it might help him,
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then, uh, what is ethical?
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To leave him alone? Or to try to help him?
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What was most important
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is that we knew
that Dr. Macchiarini was on staff
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at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden,
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which is known to be one of
the best hospitals in the world,
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and that's where the medical
Nobel Prize is given out.
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UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
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So we just thought,
"We can't get any better."
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"He's, like, the best of the best."
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- Hi, everybody.
- We're actually sitting on the plane now.
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And I just wanted to say hi
to everybody, you know.
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Tomorrow morning, we will be in Sweden.
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Paolo was more like a god,
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uh, a messiah, for organ regeneration.
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I was part of Paolo Macchiarini's team
at the Karolinska
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and a surgeon.
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There is no other situation
that I can think of
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where you actually are asleep
and you cannot do anything,
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and you put the life
in the hands of a surgeon.
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The first time I actually met Paolo,
he had some sort of aura of mystique,
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one can say.
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You don't really understand
exactly who is this guy.
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I was in a meeting.
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We were sitting around a room,
he was standing in a corner,
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but deserved
all the attention of the room.
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Um... That's quite a feature,
actually, to pull off.
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When Paolo arrived,
he was a star. He was a superstar.
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His vision was to regenerate
new windpipes from plastic material
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covered with the patient's own stem cells.
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And if this works at the Karolinska,
they want to make a clinic around Paolo.
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The idea was to have a center
where people from the entire world
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would come here
for these organ transplantations,
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and the Karolinska would make
a lot, a lot of money.
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He was able to make us all feel
that we were part of this team
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that will make the future happen now.
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You need to progress. Otherwise, um,
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there will be no new ways
to, um... do a transplantation.
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For me, he was a person,
really, to look up to.
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Paolo once said to me,
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"There is no person above me
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except God."
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And then I asked him,
"So, the pope is not as high as you are?"
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"No, he's not."
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Paolo said he needed
to replace Chris's windpipe
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using his own stem cells.
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And that was just amazing.
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Any surgery is risky,
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but this was super risky.
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Once you take out a part of the airway,
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you need to know that
you are able to reconstruct the airway.
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If you are unable,
the patient dies in the operating room.
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Chris joked about it
to Paolo the night before his surgery.
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He said,
"Tell me, Doc. I'm a guinea pig, right?"
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And Paolo didn't want to hear that.
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He didn't want Chris to feel that way.
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And I believed that.
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He's world-renowned, he's the best.
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I was assisting Paolo
on this operation.
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I was holding the sutures.
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I was exposing the tissues
for Paolo Macchiarini.
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Exposing vessels,
exposing airway, and so forth.
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Helping him implant this plastic tube.
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After 15 hours of surgery,
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Paolo finally appeared at the door.
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And he had a smile on his face.
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And he said, "It was successful."
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I had prayed for a miracle.
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And Paolo was that miracle for us.
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I got scars running now
up and down my chest.
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But, uh... as you can see, I'm here.
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I'm still... still kicking and breathing.
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I mean,
it's kind of difficult though, but...
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Two thumbs up.
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One of the things that made Paolo
intriguing is he's this world traveler
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who works all around the world.
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He's Italian, he's dashing,
he's charming, he's gorgeous.
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He speaks five or six languages.
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He works at the place that awards
the Nobel Prize in medicine.
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He has a beautiful house in Barcelona,
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and he's always running from Barcelona
to all these other parts of the world.
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And he lives this very exciting life.
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I'm not a big fan
of long-distance relationships.
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I think they're
really difficult to sustain.
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But with Paolo, somehow it wasn't.
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At the beginning, we were careful
because of the professional thing,
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and I was trying to figure out
what to do about it.
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But Paolo just wanted to go,
you know, "To hell with everything."
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He was in constant contact.
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I mean, he was texting me all day long.
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Gushing, romantic messages.
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I, um, just wanted to...
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um, send you a few loving,
good morning words.
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And a lot of kisses to my princess.
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Passionate, tender, and loving kisses.
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If he was gone for a long time,
he... he would just sort of
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go out of his way
to make me feel loved and special.
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There was a constant, consistent level
of excitement to our whole romance.
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It was never dull.
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The very first trip we ever went on,
Paolo said, "I want to surprise you."
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- And my love...
- I don't know where we're going.
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My love still doesn't know
where we are going.
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He takes me to one of
the most romantic cities in the world.
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Venice, Italy.
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I've never been to Venice.
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The whole trip was just magic.
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{n8}Romance on overdrive.
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And it was the beginning
of him sweeping me off my feet.
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And I mean really sweeping me off my feet.
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On that first trip we went on to Venice,
he introduced me as his wife.
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I remember nudging him under the table.
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I'm like, "What are you doing?"
And he just thought it was so funny.
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00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,200
There was something
definitely that I noticed early on.
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He liked to be the center of attention,
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and he just likes... sort of
playing with people a little bit.
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And if that meant
bending the truth a little bit, it...
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he got some sort of kick out of that.
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He liked to exaggerate.
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It went hand in hand
with all these grand gestures.
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{n8}Being with Paolo was
literally like being in a fairy tale.
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{n8}Everything was so extravagant
and over the top,
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and every single trip,
there was a surprise.
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Look for the lights.
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Oh my God! Wow!
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Love you.
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Money was an absolute nonissue.
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He not only paid for everything,
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but everything was the best hotel rooms,
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the most expensive restaurants,
the most expensive wine, shopping sprees.
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He flew me all over the world.
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Türkiye, Russia, the Bahamas,
Puerto Rico, Greece.
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Hear the waves of the sea.
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- I love you, my love.
- Love you.
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There were so many magical trips.
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One of the things about Paolo, and it's
something my friends still talk about, is,
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not only does the man speak five or six
languages, he had five or six phones.
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00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,200
It was kind of ridiculous
because sometimes
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he'd lay them out in front of him.
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He'd say, "This is the Barcelona phone,
this is the US phone,
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this is the Russia phone,
this is the Swedish phone."
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I mean, talk about James Bond.
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00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,480
Who walks around with four or five phones,
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and who can even keep track
of four or five phones?
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But he would pick up one
and he's speaking in one language.
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00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,920
He'd pick up another one
and he's speaking in another language.
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00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,520
He said he needed a different phone
for every place he worked.
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That it was just easier.
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00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,720
Later, I would have other theories
about his many phones,
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but at the beginning,
it added to his appeal.
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After the surgery,
we didn't see Paolo that much.
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He was flying this place,
he was flying that place.
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He had, um, one of his assistants
look after Chris.
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00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,920
Is it okay, Chris?
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- Here. So, you try to hold it.
- Hmm.
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Very soon after surgery,
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00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,440
Chris Lyles gained
an infection in the airway,
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00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,960
so he started to cough enormously hard.
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This, you know, really, really deep cough.
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He got mucus clots in the airways.
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What also happened was,
he got an infection in the wound.
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So he had a quite dramatic
early postoperative period.
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We took care of it very urgently.
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We directly, actually,
could take him to the operating room
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and remove the mucus clots, and so forth.
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But it was a little bit unusual
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that you get the infection
so early on after surgery.
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00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,160
He had to stay longer
than what we initially thought
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he would be in Sweden.
460
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,840
Eventually, my brother
was demanding to come back home
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because he needed to see his daughter.
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Oh, sorry.
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You just take a small walk,
then turn left.
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He was recovering, so he could,
uh, go back to the States.
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I was really, really happy for Chris.
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Oh, that's a moment in time.
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- I'm just happy to be home.
- I know that's right.
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- I'm just so happy to be here.
- Yes.
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Within a week or so,
he had to go back to the hospital.
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On March 5th,
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my phone rung in the middle of the night.
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And when I answered the phone,
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my mom
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was, um... was screaming.
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00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,640
And she just yelled out,
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"Chris is dead. Chris is dead."
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He was gone.
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He fought so hard.
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00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,240
And he was gone.
480
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A sad farewell for a Maryland man
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who helped change
cancer treatment worldwide.
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00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,960
Lyles remained
optimistic and hopeful till the very end.
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At that time
when Chris Lyles was operated,
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I truly believed in Paolo.
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00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,600
I truly believed in this, uh... method.
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It could have just been,
you know, bad luck
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with postoperative infection
that caused this.
488
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,040
Even though he had passed,
489
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,320
we still believed that... that
people were going to benefit from it.
490
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:52,880
I continued to support Dr. Macchiarini's
efforts in regenerative medicine.
491
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,960
Yes.
492
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,520
When Hannah's
transplant was completed,
493
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,080
there were press conferences
494
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,760
and Paolo saying
that you can see the new cells
495
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,520
growing on Hannah's windpipe.
496
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,200
It basically seemed like a miracle.
Paolo had done the impossible.
497
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,800
All this is a journey of 25 years,
498
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,680
and, um, I cannot express
what it means to me as a scientist.
499
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,920
As a man.
500
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,240
But it didn't take very long before
it became clear that something was wrong.
501
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,360
Hannah wasn't doing well,
and there was concern.
502
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,880
And then I get this text saying
503
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,360
she passed away.
504
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,040
And I burst into tears.
505
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,240
Obviously, the immediate question is,
506
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,440
okay, what happened?
Did something go wrong?
507
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,360
Does this mean the windpipe failed?
That it didn't work?
508
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,280
But Paolo was absolutely insistent
that her death had nothing to do
509
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,400
with the windpipe itself failing,
and that her death was
510
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,440
caused by other complications.
511
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,080
Hannah's family very bravely
put this beautiful tribute on Facebook
512
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,000
calling Hannah a pioneer.
513
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,000
That her death was not in vain
514
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,320
because Paolo and his team
would learn from her death and her case.
515
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,280
And that it would help
somebody else down the road.
516
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,880
Well, now we had a huge dilemma.
517
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,280
We were struggling
with what to do with the story.
518
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,480
We didn't have the beautiful
happy ending that we'd hoped to have,
519
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,400
and we almost killed the whole story.
520
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,920
Maybe there was a way to salvage the story
521
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,560
by piggybacking on the message that
Hannah's parents were putting out there,
522
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,600
that her death was not in vain.
523
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,200
And so, at that point, we pivoted.
524
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,200
We decided if we talked more
about some of Paolo's other patients
525
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,240
and how he was learning
from each one of these cases,
526
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,960
that that way we could still do a story
527
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,800
about the hope
of this very promising field.
528
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,760
Now Paolo was more the focus of the story.
529
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,080
We reached out
to Christopher Lyles' family.
530
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,080
I knew they were big supporters of Paolo,
in spite of Chris having died,
531
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,880
and so we wanted
to interview them with Paolo.
532
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,120
I just want to thank you because...
533
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,520
No.
534
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,440
No, Paolo, 'cause...
535
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,720
- I thank you.
- You did, you know...
536
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,280
You gave us hope when no one else did.
537
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,400
And, um...
538
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,640
That's the greatest gift
we ever got through this whole thing.
539
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:04,720
That's right.
540
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,480
He came in and he met Chris's daughter
and he was so sweet with her.
541
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,080
I miss him.
542
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,240
I just want to be up there,
like, with him.
543
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,040
Wherever he goes.
544
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,960
- He's with you.
- Oh...
545
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,960
Come here.
546
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,480
Give me a hug.
547
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,920
- I'm sorry. I'm really sorry.
- I know.
548
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,040
But he's a good man. He was a good man.
549
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,120
Christopher did not die for nothing.
And Hannah... too.
550
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,160
So we need to move forward.
551
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:42,920
We don't have the right to stop.
552
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:50,440
Paolo Macchiarini thinks
totally different from most surgeons.
553
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,880
He thinks that each time
he is doing anything,
554
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,720
he's doing something spectacular.
555
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,680
But now there were some questions.
556
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,920
Is this a successful method, actually?
557
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,600
And I was starting to doubt
what to think and what to believe.
558
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,880
The more people started to question,
actually, Paolo Macchiarini,
559
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,400
the more annoyed he got.
560
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,080
I think he looks at himself that he is
561
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,560
the closest person to God.
562
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Actually.
563
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,960
Fast-forward, Christmas 2013,
564
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,360
Paolo came to stay in New York with me.
565
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,120
It was very casual.
566
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,320
He cooked a big, elaborate meal.
567
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,640
We had Christmas music playing,
and we were sitting on the couch,
568
00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:58,840
exchanging gifts,
and he handed me this little box.
569
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,000
Open it.
570
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,560
Then I open the box,
571
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,640
and it's this beautiful diamond ring.
572
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,200
Oh my God.
573
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,040
I just... I kind of froze.
574
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,480
Do you love it?
575
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,000
And then I said to him,
"Is this what I think it is?"
576
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,080
And he just smiled. And he nodded.
577
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,040
Just, wow, you know?
578
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,440
I was completely floored.
579
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,360
It was such a simple proposal.
580
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,920
It was really beautiful.
581
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,320
We also knew that we weren't
going to share this with many people yet.
582
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,840
Because we were
still waiting for the story to air.
583
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,120
I kept asking, "What are we
gonna do for New Year's Eve?"
584
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,240
And he was a bit evasive.
He kept saying, "I might have a surgery."
585
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,160
Um... And he didn't give me
much information, but he...
586
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:04,200
I think a day or two before, he just said,
"I'm really sorry, but I have to go."
587
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,080
We had just gotten engaged,
and I was basking in the glow.
588
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,520
I didn't want him to leave.
589
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,800
I said, "Really? On New Year's?"
590
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,040
And he was insistent.
"It's an important surgery. I have to go."
591
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,120
So, I was peppering him
with questions about, "Really?"
592
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,040
"Who do you have to operate on
on New Year's Eve?" And...
593
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,880
He kind of hemmed and hawed,
and he was a bit reluctant,
594
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,840
and then he said, you know,
"I have to tell you something,
595
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,280
and you're not really
supposed to know this,
596
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,600
but I have some
very high-profile patients."
597
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,040
I said, "What do you mean?"
598
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,400
And he said,
"Well, um, I have some celebrity clients,
599
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,480
and some people
who are world leaders and dignitaries."
600
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,440
He just said, "These people don't want
their private matters made public."
601
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:53,800
And he told me that he was part of
a kind of secret network of doctors
602
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,040
that takes care of these people.
603
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,040
And he finally told me
604
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,000
that he was going to see
Bill and Hillary Clinton.
605
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,760
I... I... Uh, I remember I was stunned.
606
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,040
He said that he and Bill were friends,
607
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,640
and that they had
a kind of special camaraderie,
608
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:14,840
and that Bill had specifically asked
that he come and check Hillary out.
609
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,440
After that, every few months or so,
there'd be an emergency surgery.
610
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,440
People like the Emperor of Japan.
611
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,960
There were important people
in Russia that he attended to.
612
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,320
Because it was so secretive,
even in our private texts,
613
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,080
he used initials for everybody.
614
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,080
So, Bill Clinton was BC.
615
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,880
He's in Japan, and one day
pops up a message about BO.
616
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,320
At first I didn't even make
the connection.
617
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,520
I'm thinking, "Who? BO? Who's that?"
618
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,640
And he was teasing me back and forth.
"I don't know who that is."
619
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,800
Are you talking about Barack Obama?
620
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,200
Thank you very much.
621
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,200
He was. I thought, "Wow, okay." You know?
622
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,680
Now you're taking care
of the president too?
623
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,760
It seemed to make sense
624
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,000
that Paolo ran in these circles
that most people don't understand,
625
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,960
you know, that he's taking care
of world leaders and celebrities
626
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,520
because of his stature.
627
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,240
He's at that level. He's the supersurgeon.
628
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,280
It kind of made me proud of him
and proud to be next to him.
629
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,600
My name is Bosse Lindquist,
and I'm an investigative journalist
630
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,720
at Swedish public service television.
631
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,720
When I first came to hear about
Paolo Macchiarini, my boss said,
632
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,360
"Oh, you should take a look
at this, um... this piece of paper."
633
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,200
"It's a disgruntled professor
at the Karolinska
634
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,760
who, um, has come with this to us."
It's a letter of accusation,
635
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,320
where they basically accuse a colleague,
636
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,560
which was Paolo,
637
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,560
for more or less
having killed his patients
638
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,040
and, um, committed fraud in science.
639
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,160
And I said,
"Well, yes, I could take a look at it,
640
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:23,240
but it's completely impossible
that this is true."
641
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,000
"These things simply do not happen
at the Karolinska."
642
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,200
I was pretty sure it was slander.
643
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,240
So the first thing I did
was to see what I could find.
644
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:38,560
And there was lots.
645
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,320
I found several documentaries on the net
that had already been done about his work.
646
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,120
Fantastic programs
that showed what a good guy he was
647
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,640
and how he'd saved
the lives of his patients.
648
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,800
Benita's film for NBC stood out.
649
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,320
As the program progresses,
Macchiarini's patients die.
650
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,800
But what the program-makers say,
and what Macchiarini says is,
651
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,440
"Well, I mean,
this is really difficult. It's hard."
652
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,760
"It's a method that is being developed,
but the hope is there,
653
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,120
and we shouldn't be small-minded
654
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,560
when we look at Macchiarini's work."
655
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,960
I picked up the phone and called
the Karolinska switchboard,
656
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,080
and they put me through
to Paolo's answering machine.
657
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,480
And in two days' time,
I had a call from him.
658
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,160
He said, "You're very lucky
659
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,920
because I'll be passing from
New York to Moscow Wednesday."
660
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,440
"If you can be at the institute
between 3:00 and 5:00,
661
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,600
um, I'm at your disposal."
662
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,920
"Bring a cameraman.
We are not wasting time."
663
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:48,920
When I came to Karolinska,
664
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,160
I was a bit surprised because Paolo's PhDs
665
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:56,480
and medical assistants were not
behaving the way they usually did.
666
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,840
They were more like private secretaries
somehow than normal PhDs.
667
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,120
And then he entered a bit like...
not Bill Gates, more like Bono,
668
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:11,480
having this air of coming straight from
Paris, New York, uh... Rome, or somewhere.
669
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:16,800
Paolo made clear very early on
that he had had difficulties,
670
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,440
and that there were adverse outcomes,
671
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,640
and that patients were doing...
uh, were doing poorly.
672
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,040
But, according to him,
673
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,440
this was because these patients had
multiple diseases or were infirm,
674
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,040
so that was clouding his results.
675
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,240
If you test a new surgical method
676
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,080
on a person with, um,
life-threatening conditions,
677
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:48,240
obviously it will be harder to know
what the actual effect is of your method.
678
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:54,560
With a lab rat, you would select
a perfectly healthy lab rat
679
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,040
so that you wouldn't have anything
that would cloud your results.
680
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,880
So, what he really wanted
was comparatively healthy patients
681
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,480
to try out his plastic tracheas,
682
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,320
his plastic windpipes on.
683
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,120
Paolo is the kind of person
that likes to have
684
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,000
a number of balls in the air
the whole time.
685
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,920
So, at the same time that he was doing
the first plastic implants in Sweden,
686
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,680
he was negotiating
in Russia to get permission
687
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,960
to do proper clinical trials there.
688
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,640
He was given permission
by the Russian authorities,
689
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,080
and he had the opportunity
to actually select
690
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,240
among quite healthy patients
as his subjects.
691
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,360
Young, healthy, and strong.
Those were the criteria.
692
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,440
And by the summer of 2012,
he was ready to do the first trials.
693
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,880
One of the things that touched me the most
when I was researching Paolo is
694
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,920
there's a documentary
about him in Russia, in Krasnodar,
695
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,640
with Julia, this Russian dancer mom.
696
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,440
You look beautiful.
697
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,560
Thank you.
698
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,240
We might need to take
a part of the muscle.
699
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:28,080
The first option is to do
an incision here and an incision here.
700
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,440
She was
this absolutely beautiful,
701
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,680
young former dancer and mother in Russia.
702
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:37,920
I mean, she's gorgeous.
703
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,960
And she was in a tragic car accident,
704
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,840
and as a result of this,
705
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,320
her windpipe was damaged
and she had a hole in her throat.
706
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,240
And for Julia, who is this very vivacious,
707
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,320
beautiful young woman with her whole life
ahead of her, this was devastating.
708
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,640
And they actually,
in Russia, had a lottery,
709
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:00,640
equivalent to a lottery,
710
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,200
to basically win the opportunity
711
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,920
to have famous surgeon,
Dr. Paolo Macchiarini,
712
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,560
give you a new windpipe.
713
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:09,920
And she made a video.
714
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,440
Pleading, you know, with Paolo,
"Please let me be the one."
715
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,680
"Please help me."
716
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,920
My name is Julia Tuulik.
717
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,240
In 2008, I was in
a very serious road accident.
718
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,480
I had a tracheostomy inserted.
719
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:32,280
Now I have a tube
that constantly grinds on me.
720
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,400
It hurts a lot when I speak,
breathe, lie down, and sleep.
721
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,160
I have lost my health and my beauty.
722
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:48,320
My little boy is the only thing
that makes me happy.
723
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,680
I'm so blessed to have him.
724
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,240
But he has never heard his mother sing,
not even a lullaby.
725
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:03,120
As you can see,
I'm a normal, nice, young girl,
726
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,680
and I would like to live
like other normal people.
727
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,720
She didn't actually need this transplant.
728
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,840
She was not at death's door,
729
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,120
but she wanted to be back to normal.
Very understandable.
730
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:24,560
As I was scouring the net
for documentaries about Paolo Macchiarini,
731
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,080
one of the stories
was made by the German broadcaster,
732
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,160
which showed, in close detail,
his surgeries in Russia
733
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:35,200
where they followed his work
on Julia Tuulik.
734
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,640
Another bit of suction.
735
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,960
Julia.
736
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,560
It's me.
737
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,920
We finished the operation.
Can you say something? Say something.
738
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:06,680
Hello.
739
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,400
- Thank you so much.
- Good.
740
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,120
Congratulations to everybody.
741
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,720
Will I be able to play with my son?
742
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:22,600
Yes, as much as you like. Okay?
743
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,440
Don't worry.
744
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,280
Don't worry, okay?
745
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,440
The film is incredibly moving.
746
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,640
I mean, he is giving her back
a gift of a 100% normal life.
747
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,680
Julia had been fearful, but then she had,
at the same time, been sure
748
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,120
that Macchiarini was the guy
who would make her life perfect again.
749
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,640
This is Julia.
750
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,800
When I met Julia,
751
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,200
she was not able to play with her child.
752
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,640
It was a very emotional,
uh, moment for me,
753
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:13,800
and I immediately said,
"This is the right patient."
754
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,440
And I still do not believe
755
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,640
that a few days ago
she couldn't breathe and talk normally.
756
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:26,960
So, um, she's a little bit afraid of you,
so please be very sweet.
757
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,680
I'm not afraid of anyone.
758
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,160
I've got so many plans,
so much I want to do.
759
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,840
First, I need to get well,
760
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,320
and then I'd like to continue my studies.
761
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,040
It's very persuasive.
762
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Paolo is the gift of God to mankind.
763
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,320
He's really helping this young lady.
764
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,320
So I thought, that's fantastic.
765
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,120
I mean, the program says
that it was a big success.
766
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,880
That might mean that Paolo's methods,
767
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,040
maybe they're not 100%, uh... perfect,
768
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,880
but apparently they work in some places.
769
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:22,360
So this is really essential.
770
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,920
I should get hold of Julia
and ask her how she's doing.
771
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,840
And then a couple of days later,
our colleague, Johannes Wahlström,
772
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,880
managed, against all odds,
to locate her mother.
773
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,960
I managed
to track down Julia's mother
774
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,520
who is a lady living
in a suburb outside of St. Petersburg.
775
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,240
And I call her, and I ask
if it's possible to speak to her daughter.
776
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,480
And the mother responds that,
"Yeah, you can speak to my daughter."
777
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,640
"But in order to do that,
you need to die."
778
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,360
"Because she is already dead."
779
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,680
I am taken aback.
780
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,720
Because I've just seen her on the screen,
just a few hours earlier.
781
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,800
And I don't really know
what to make out of that.
782
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,120
I basically ask her what happened,
783
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:26,680
and the mother says
that it was all, uh... you know...
784
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,160
It was all fake.
785
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:33,160
And her daughter went through
pure horror until her death.
786
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,800
And this was just, you know, a big scam.
787
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,560
Uh... and torture, and murder.
788
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,400
She was coughing up
pieces of her own flesh.
789
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,680
That's the way that
she retells it on the telephone,
790
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,840
but it's a short conversation
that we have.
791
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,960
But I realize that, right there and then,
792
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,480
uh, that the story that I have seen
just a few hours earlier is...
793
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,400
is a lie.
65873
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