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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:56,470 --> 00:00:58,034 - I'm trying to classify what this thing is, 2 00:00:58,058 --> 00:00:59,369 but it's not real. 3 00:01:00,957 --> 00:01:04,236 And I know what it is, but what it is is not real. 4 00:01:04,271 --> 00:01:06,100 - I met this river guide 5 00:01:06,135 --> 00:01:09,724 and he ended up telling me, "Not only is Bigfoot real, 6 00:01:09,759 --> 00:01:11,864 but I've seen them several times." 7 00:01:11,899 --> 00:01:13,763 - Then it stood up. 8 00:01:13,797 --> 00:01:15,489 And when he stood up, 9 00:01:15,523 --> 00:01:18,768 he took two great big steps and squatted back down 10 00:01:18,802 --> 00:01:20,735 and started eating again. 11 00:01:20,770 --> 00:01:22,368 That experience alone, I mean, 12 00:01:22,392 --> 00:01:25,913 it'll never, it changed my life. 13 00:01:25,947 --> 00:01:27,742 I'll never, never be the same. 14 00:01:27,777 --> 00:01:29,375 - There could be a subset of people out there 15 00:01:29,399 --> 00:01:30,952 who have see this, 16 00:01:30,987 --> 00:01:32,678 but you would never know about it 17 00:01:32,713 --> 00:01:35,440 because their defenses kicked in and protected them. 18 00:01:35,474 --> 00:01:38,132 - So the thing walked up to about 200 yards away, 19 00:01:38,167 --> 00:01:41,308 it stopped, looked at them, turned and walked away. 20 00:01:41,342 --> 00:01:43,137 - I'm as convinced as I can be 21 00:01:43,172 --> 00:01:45,381 short of having stood there on the sandbar 22 00:01:45,415 --> 00:01:46,830 on that afternoon. 23 00:01:46,865 --> 00:01:50,179 - It took less than a second for me to realize 24 00:01:50,213 --> 00:01:52,733 what I was looking at were not people at all. 25 00:01:52,767 --> 00:01:55,425 - Holy crap, that's a freaking Bigfoot. 26 00:01:55,460 --> 00:01:56,633 And he's like, "Where?" 27 00:01:56,668 --> 00:01:58,152 And I'm like, "Right there!" 28 00:01:58,187 --> 00:01:59,602 - You don't know what to think. 29 00:01:59,636 --> 00:02:03,778 I mean, it's just, you see something that doesn't exist. 30 00:02:03,813 --> 00:02:08,783 - The hand prints were roughly eight feet. 31 00:02:09,612 --> 00:02:10,923 - There's a language here 32 00:02:10,958 --> 00:02:12,925 and that is not a human being. 33 00:02:14,479 --> 00:02:16,964 - All of a sudden, my tent starts getting pushed in. 34 00:02:18,448 --> 00:02:20,830 - You run into them and you get this flash of beauty 35 00:02:20,864 --> 00:02:22,935 and they are gone. 36 00:02:37,329 --> 00:02:40,021 - As a child growing up, I was told stories 37 00:02:40,056 --> 00:02:42,679 by my great, great grandparents. 38 00:02:42,714 --> 00:02:43,611 They would take us 39 00:02:43,646 --> 00:02:46,442 up to the woods in the summer 40 00:02:46,476 --> 00:02:48,789 and we would spend all summer up there. 41 00:02:48,823 --> 00:02:52,068 We weren't allowed to come back down into civilization. 42 00:02:53,380 --> 00:02:56,417 Antone, my great, great grandfather, 43 00:02:56,452 --> 00:02:58,454 would give us a rifle. 44 00:02:58,488 --> 00:03:00,421 And we were eight years old at the time. 45 00:03:00,456 --> 00:03:03,666 And he said, "Go out and I want you guys to learn the area. 46 00:03:03,700 --> 00:03:06,220 And I want guys to hunt." 47 00:03:06,255 --> 00:03:08,188 It was a lesson that he taught us 48 00:03:09,258 --> 00:03:11,260 to go out and learn ourselves. 49 00:03:11,294 --> 00:03:16,299 And if we had done anything wrong, then we were corrected. 50 00:03:17,507 --> 00:03:20,027 While there, he would also tell us stories 51 00:03:20,061 --> 00:03:23,064 of the areas that we would visit. 52 00:03:23,099 --> 00:03:24,894 We have many lakes, 53 00:03:24,928 --> 00:03:26,413 a couple of rivers, 54 00:03:26,447 --> 00:03:29,243 and we have Mt. Adams 55 00:03:29,278 --> 00:03:31,935 and he would tell us stories of how they were created. 56 00:03:33,454 --> 00:03:35,574 And then he would also tell us stories about Bigfoot. 57 00:03:37,217 --> 00:03:41,497 Growing up, it was kinda hard to fathom 58 00:03:43,084 --> 00:03:46,536 why is he telling us stories like this? 59 00:03:46,571 --> 00:03:51,576 But as I grew up, I became a skeptic because I didn't know. 60 00:03:53,371 --> 00:03:55,511 And then a few years later, 61 00:03:55,545 --> 00:03:57,409 working for the Yakama Nation, 62 00:03:57,444 --> 00:04:00,067 then that's when everything started happening. 63 00:04:06,453 --> 00:04:09,076 - With regard to the subject at hand, 64 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:10,433 Bigfoot, or Sasquatch, 65 00:04:10,457 --> 00:04:11,251 my wife grew up 66 00:04:11,285 --> 00:04:12,562 in Ferndale, Washington, 67 00:04:12,597 --> 00:04:15,565 right next to the Lummi Indian Reservation. 68 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,189 Where she grew up, there were so many Bigfoot sightings, 69 00:04:19,224 --> 00:04:20,777 it was just common. 70 00:04:20,812 --> 00:04:23,366 The thought that Bigfoot was a legend 71 00:04:23,401 --> 00:04:26,714 or maybe did it exist or not never even came up. 72 00:04:26,749 --> 00:04:30,684 She was 19 and in college before she met somebody 73 00:04:30,718 --> 00:04:32,548 that doubted the existence of Bigfoot 74 00:04:32,582 --> 00:04:34,135 and she was astonished 75 00:04:34,170 --> 00:04:36,517 because there wasn't a question is Bigfoot real. 76 00:04:36,552 --> 00:04:40,107 It was just another animal in the woods. 77 00:04:53,948 --> 00:04:55,374 - In talking with indigenous people, 78 00:04:55,398 --> 00:04:58,263 some of the people will say, you know, the DNA is there. 79 00:04:58,298 --> 00:05:01,715 We are related. We are related to the Sasquatch. 80 00:05:01,749 --> 00:05:05,650 For them this is really, it's family, it's a neighbor. 81 00:05:05,684 --> 00:05:08,342 It's that connection. 82 00:05:08,377 --> 00:05:09,999 It's not different for them. 83 00:05:13,485 --> 00:05:16,833 - I read a story by Paul Kane, 84 00:05:17,834 --> 00:05:20,320 an artist who wrote a book 85 00:05:20,354 --> 00:05:23,046 called "Wanderings of an Artist 86 00:05:23,081 --> 00:05:24,979 Among North American Indians". 87 00:05:25,014 --> 00:05:27,361 And it was published about 1890. 88 00:05:28,638 --> 00:05:30,236 This mountain has never been visited 89 00:05:30,260 --> 00:05:32,642 by either whites or Indians. 90 00:05:32,677 --> 00:05:35,818 The latter assert that it is inhabited by a race of beings 91 00:05:35,852 --> 00:05:39,131 of a different species who are cannibals 92 00:05:39,166 --> 00:05:41,030 and whom they hold in great dread. 93 00:05:42,342 --> 00:05:44,492 These superstitions are taken from the statement of a man 94 00:05:44,516 --> 00:05:48,417 who they say, went to the mountain with another 95 00:05:48,451 --> 00:05:51,040 and escaped the fate of his companion, 96 00:05:51,074 --> 00:05:55,182 who was eaten by the skookums or evil genii. 97 00:05:55,216 --> 00:05:58,427 I'd offered a considerable bribe to any Indian, 98 00:05:58,461 --> 00:06:01,464 but could not find one hearty enough to venture. 99 00:06:01,499 --> 00:06:06,193 - And they would not guide him there no matter what. 100 00:06:55,863 --> 00:06:58,418 - There are competing hypotheses about what Sasquatch is, 101 00:06:58,452 --> 00:07:01,490 what its nature is, and I've approached this subject 102 00:07:01,524 --> 00:07:02,777 from the perspective 103 00:07:02,801 --> 00:07:05,770 of an anthropologist, an anatomist, biologist. 104 00:07:05,804 --> 00:07:08,358 And so the evidence that impresses me 105 00:07:08,393 --> 00:07:11,707 that suggests the existence of this creature 106 00:07:11,741 --> 00:07:15,296 points to it being a large bipedal primate. 107 00:07:15,331 --> 00:07:17,333 It's particularly interesting to me, 108 00:07:17,367 --> 00:07:20,509 due to my interest in the evolution of human bipedalism, 109 00:07:20,543 --> 00:07:24,789 and sharing that habit with another species of primate, 110 00:07:24,823 --> 00:07:29,483 living alongside us is a unique and interesting opportunity 111 00:07:29,518 --> 00:07:32,762 of comparison and contrast to that adaptation. 112 00:07:32,797 --> 00:07:35,040 - We have a being that is in the biological record, 113 00:07:35,075 --> 00:07:37,974 that is a 10-feet tall, upright walking ape. 114 00:07:38,009 --> 00:07:41,253 We have thousands of track casts 115 00:07:41,288 --> 00:07:43,186 that Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum collects. 116 00:07:43,221 --> 00:07:47,950 We have numerous reports from all kinds of people 117 00:07:47,984 --> 00:07:50,746 over many years in the United States, 118 00:07:50,780 --> 00:07:54,301 as well as a complete cultural record 119 00:07:54,335 --> 00:07:56,821 of all indigenous cultures. 120 00:07:56,855 --> 00:08:00,307 - It's the footprint evidence that drew me in 121 00:08:00,341 --> 00:08:05,105 and likewise, many of my scientific predecessors, 122 00:08:05,139 --> 00:08:08,108 Dr. Grover Krantz, Dr. John Napier, 123 00:08:08,142 --> 00:08:12,319 it was the composite data set of the footprints 124 00:08:12,353 --> 00:08:17,117 that compelled them to take this matter seriously. 125 00:08:17,151 --> 00:08:19,395 "Something," as Dr. Napier said, 126 00:08:19,429 --> 00:08:21,570 "something is leaving footprints." 127 00:08:25,056 --> 00:08:27,679 - The Salish BC call it Dzunukwa. 128 00:08:27,714 --> 00:08:30,751 The Lakota call it Chiye-Tanka. 129 00:08:30,786 --> 00:08:32,857 And they don't talk about this being 130 00:08:32,891 --> 00:08:34,168 as being separate from us. 131 00:08:34,203 --> 00:08:35,491 Matter of fact, a lot of them say, 132 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:37,378 our brother in the forest, 133 00:08:37,413 --> 00:08:39,657 and a lot of them will actually explain 134 00:08:39,691 --> 00:08:41,831 how there's the fox, the bear, and the Sasquatch. 135 00:08:41,866 --> 00:08:43,350 It's not different for them. 136 00:09:01,023 --> 00:09:02,379 How do you feel just sitting here 137 00:09:02,403 --> 00:09:04,233 and looking over there again right now? 138 00:09:04,267 --> 00:09:07,167 Yeah, it's nuts, man. It really is, dude. 139 00:09:07,201 --> 00:09:08,064 I'll tell you, I mean, 140 00:09:08,099 --> 00:09:11,102 it's almost breathtaking. 141 00:09:11,136 --> 00:09:14,243 I just, I keep, I honestly keep wanting so badly 142 00:09:15,382 --> 00:09:16,417 to be like, look guys, 143 00:09:16,452 --> 00:09:17,971 and then everyone can see it, dude, 144 00:09:18,005 --> 00:09:20,525 but it's never, like it's killing me right now to be here. 145 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:23,873 That experience alone, 146 00:09:23,908 --> 00:09:27,497 I mean, it'll never, it changed my life. 147 00:09:27,532 --> 00:09:29,120 I'll never, never be the same. 148 00:09:30,397 --> 00:09:32,226 We came here to do a survival video 149 00:09:32,261 --> 00:09:36,472 for our YouTube channel back in 2020, mid-October. 150 00:09:36,506 --> 00:09:39,199 We set a camp up on this side of the mountain. 151 00:09:39,233 --> 00:09:40,245 We had turned our cameras off, 152 00:09:40,269 --> 00:09:41,418 our batteries were running low. 153 00:09:41,442 --> 00:09:43,410 We came down here to fish for some dinner. 154 00:09:43,444 --> 00:09:46,378 We spent a good half an hour down here on these rocks 155 00:09:46,413 --> 00:09:48,657 just chit chatting with a line in the water and- 156 00:09:48,691 --> 00:09:51,625 - Just trying to make ends meet for the night. 157 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:52,913 - Yeah, just trying to get something to eat, 158 00:09:52,937 --> 00:09:54,352 trying to get warm, get some food. 159 00:09:55,802 --> 00:09:59,253 Austin had noticed a couple animals over here on this log 160 00:09:59,288 --> 00:10:00,714 that was in the water and he kinda punched me 161 00:10:00,738 --> 00:10:02,394 and said, "Hey man, what are those?" 162 00:10:02,429 --> 00:10:04,509 - It was kinda like, "Hey, you see that over there?" 163 00:10:04,534 --> 00:10:07,227 - Yeah, we, we noticed it. 164 00:10:07,261 --> 00:10:08,445 I didn't know what to think of it at first. 165 00:10:08,469 --> 00:10:10,299 I was thinking maybe sow and a cub 166 00:10:11,472 --> 00:10:12,657 and I kinda played it off for a few minutes 167 00:10:12,681 --> 00:10:13,440 like it's nothing. 168 00:10:13,474 --> 00:10:14,648 And the more I looked, 169 00:10:14,683 --> 00:10:15,901 the more I seen that it wasn't like a bear. 170 00:10:15,925 --> 00:10:17,409 It was more like a, you know, 171 00:10:17,444 --> 00:10:18,628 - more like a man. - Human. 172 00:10:18,652 --> 00:10:19,836 Yeah, so hard to explain. 173 00:10:19,860 --> 00:10:21,103 I just can't put it in words. 174 00:10:21,137 --> 00:10:22,104 - The size of it. 175 00:10:22,138 --> 00:10:24,347 It was just remarkable. - Yeah. 176 00:10:24,382 --> 00:10:27,627 - I mean, larger than any human I've ever seen. 177 00:10:28,697 --> 00:10:31,389 As soon as you realize that it wasn't 178 00:10:31,423 --> 00:10:33,978 some kind of animal that you would normally see out here, 179 00:10:34,012 --> 00:10:37,291 it kinda just like took everything outta your body. 180 00:10:37,326 --> 00:10:39,466 Just took your whole breath away 181 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:42,400 and everything just went silent. 182 00:10:42,434 --> 00:10:44,885 You know, you didn't really hear anything 183 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,646 but what your thoughts were. 184 00:11:01,488 --> 00:11:04,664 - I had a whole career as a wildlife conservationist 185 00:11:04,698 --> 00:11:07,667 and ended up working for 27 years 186 00:11:07,701 --> 00:11:09,254 for the tribes. 187 00:11:09,289 --> 00:11:13,017 Over a very long time as I earned the trust of the tribes, 188 00:11:13,051 --> 00:11:16,330 more and more stories would come my way, 189 00:11:16,365 --> 00:11:17,849 more and more information, 190 00:11:17,884 --> 00:11:20,334 more and more stories 191 00:11:20,369 --> 00:11:23,855 about where Sasquatch were found 192 00:11:23,890 --> 00:11:25,374 on the res. 193 00:11:25,408 --> 00:11:29,792 And after I became sort of a trusted mascot of the tribe, 194 00:11:31,138 --> 00:11:34,866 I got a lot of information just from them 195 00:11:34,901 --> 00:11:39,629 about what they are and what they want 196 00:11:39,664 --> 00:11:41,528 and where they live. 197 00:11:42,287 --> 00:11:45,325 There's a lot of films and photos 198 00:11:45,359 --> 00:11:47,327 that are taken that are never shared 199 00:11:47,361 --> 00:11:48,811 outside of Indian Country. 200 00:11:50,433 --> 00:11:55,231 Bigfoot stories are owned by the long house that has them 201 00:11:56,577 --> 00:11:59,201 and they do not share with other members of their tribe 202 00:11:59,235 --> 00:12:01,272 that are in another long house. 203 00:12:01,306 --> 00:12:03,308 It's all Balkanized within the tribe 204 00:12:03,343 --> 00:12:05,759 as far as Bigfoot stories go 205 00:12:05,794 --> 00:12:09,867 because they're considered property that a long house owns. 206 00:12:09,901 --> 00:12:11,430 It's like a copyright. 207 00:12:11,454 --> 00:12:15,286 You can't use that story 'cause they own it 208 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,046 and they don't tell it to anybody else. 209 00:12:17,081 --> 00:12:21,879 So an outsider like me in some cases 210 00:12:21,913 --> 00:12:24,053 has more access to those stories 211 00:12:24,088 --> 00:12:26,435 because I am not seen as a threat 212 00:12:26,469 --> 00:12:30,611 and not seen as something that you have to compete with. 213 00:12:30,646 --> 00:12:35,237 For example, Vancouver Island, the Kwakwaka<wakw, 214 00:12:35,271 --> 00:12:37,032 who used to be called the Kwakiutl, 215 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,831 that tribe has a lot of Sasquatch contact. 216 00:12:42,865 --> 00:12:46,904 They have a secret society called the Hamatsa, 217 00:12:48,284 --> 00:12:51,287 which is a hereditary clan 218 00:12:51,322 --> 00:12:54,877 where it's the Wild Man society in the tribe. 219 00:12:54,912 --> 00:12:57,121 If you're a member of the Hamatsa, 220 00:12:57,155 --> 00:12:59,330 you can put a Dzunukwa, 221 00:12:59,364 --> 00:13:02,264 which is their word for Sasquatch, 222 00:13:02,298 --> 00:13:05,129 at the bottom of your totem pole 223 00:13:05,163 --> 00:13:07,476 because totem poles are read upside down. 224 00:13:08,718 --> 00:13:11,204 The thing closest to the ground is the most important totem 225 00:13:11,238 --> 00:13:12,239 in the totem pole. 226 00:13:13,827 --> 00:13:16,381 - The story poles are influenced 227 00:13:16,416 --> 00:13:18,694 by the Wild Man and the Wild Woman. 228 00:13:18,728 --> 00:13:20,454 There's a relationship there 229 00:13:20,489 --> 00:13:22,422 and it must be a really close relationship. 230 00:13:22,456 --> 00:13:25,252 For them, this is really, it's family. 231 00:13:25,287 --> 00:13:27,289 It's a neighbor. 232 00:13:27,323 --> 00:13:30,050 I asked some of the tribal historians, 233 00:13:30,085 --> 00:13:32,121 people that might be in tune or in touch 234 00:13:32,156 --> 00:13:34,089 with this information. 235 00:13:34,123 --> 00:13:37,023 And I said, "Who were you emulating with these head shapes?" 236 00:13:37,057 --> 00:13:40,060 The answer was more than not, 237 00:13:40,095 --> 00:13:44,340 usually the forest people, the Sasquatch. 238 00:13:44,375 --> 00:13:47,309 When you are in touch and in tune 239 00:13:47,343 --> 00:13:50,105 with our indigenous communities in the region, 240 00:13:50,139 --> 00:13:52,003 you will observe 241 00:13:52,038 --> 00:13:57,043 that most of the culture up and down the coast 242 00:13:58,251 --> 00:14:02,462 is related to the Wild Man, the Wild Woman. 243 00:14:02,496 --> 00:14:03,773 A lot of the family crests 244 00:14:03,808 --> 00:14:07,294 are related to the Wild Man, the Wild Woman. 245 00:14:07,329 --> 00:14:09,158 A lot of the ceremonies are related 246 00:14:09,193 --> 00:14:12,161 to the Wild Man and the Wild Woman. 247 00:14:12,196 --> 00:14:15,164 The mask artistically, the regalia, 248 00:14:15,199 --> 00:14:18,340 is related to the Wild Man and the Wild Woman. 249 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:22,862 I'm not speaking for the Native communities. 250 00:14:22,896 --> 00:14:25,692 I don't want to represent them in any way. 251 00:14:25,726 --> 00:14:29,006 I really feel that if you wanna know more about this 252 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,319 through oral tradition or through the stories or culturally, 253 00:14:32,354 --> 00:14:34,390 then you need to take the step to do that. 254 00:14:34,425 --> 00:14:38,222 If we can really bridge the gap with peoples, 255 00:14:38,256 --> 00:14:40,362 we could learn a lot about this topic. 256 00:14:41,397 --> 00:14:42,743 - In 1840, there was a missionary 257 00:14:42,778 --> 00:14:44,849 that was out in the Oregon Territory. 258 00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:47,162 His name was Elkanah Walker. 259 00:14:47,196 --> 00:14:49,336 The Native Americans out there were telling him 260 00:14:49,371 --> 00:14:52,132 about the giants that would come down, 261 00:14:52,167 --> 00:14:53,651 steal their salmon. 262 00:14:53,685 --> 00:14:56,550 And he was writing back to his church 263 00:14:56,585 --> 00:15:00,416 back on the east coast in New England I believe it was 264 00:15:00,451 --> 00:15:03,316 telling what the Indians were sharing with him 265 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:05,594 and how these giants smell bad 266 00:15:05,628 --> 00:15:09,805 and were very strong and had like 18-inch tracks. 267 00:15:09,839 --> 00:15:10,920 Elkanah Walker 268 00:15:10,944 --> 00:15:13,395 in April of 1840 wrote, 269 00:15:13,429 --> 00:15:15,811 "I suppose you will bear with me if I trouble you 270 00:15:15,845 --> 00:15:17,951 with a little of this superstition 271 00:15:17,986 --> 00:15:20,298 which has recently come to my knowledge. 272 00:15:20,333 --> 00:15:23,577 They believe in the existence of a race of giants 273 00:15:23,612 --> 00:15:26,304 which inhabit a certain mountain off to the west of us. 274 00:15:27,478 --> 00:15:30,377 This mountain is covered with perpetual snow. 275 00:15:30,412 --> 00:15:32,448 They inhabit its top. 276 00:15:32,483 --> 00:15:35,037 They hunt and do all of their work in the night 277 00:15:35,072 --> 00:15:37,419 and they cannot see in the daytime. 278 00:15:37,453 --> 00:15:40,077 They come to the people's lodges in the night 279 00:15:40,111 --> 00:15:42,424 when the people are asleep and take them 280 00:15:42,458 --> 00:15:44,495 and put them under their skins 281 00:15:44,529 --> 00:15:46,911 and take them to their place of abode 282 00:15:46,946 --> 00:15:48,257 without even waking. 283 00:15:49,431 --> 00:15:50,880 When they wake in the morning, 284 00:15:50,915 --> 00:15:52,330 they're wholly lost, 285 00:15:52,365 --> 00:15:54,988 not knowing in what direction their home is. 286 00:15:56,265 --> 00:15:58,267 The account that they give of these giants, 287 00:15:58,302 --> 00:15:59,751 well, in some measure, 288 00:15:59,786 --> 00:16:02,685 correspond with the Bible account of this race of beings. 289 00:16:04,135 --> 00:16:07,345 They say their track is about a foot and a half long." 290 00:16:14,352 --> 00:16:19,392 - I started in the Bigfoot field in 1956. 291 00:16:19,426 --> 00:16:21,463 I was trekking in the Himalaya, 292 00:16:21,497 --> 00:16:25,294 a small expedition, to look for the Yeti 293 00:16:25,329 --> 00:16:27,193 and made contact 294 00:16:27,227 --> 00:16:31,093 with this Texan called Tom Slick, this oil man. 295 00:16:31,128 --> 00:16:33,613 He became a very good friend. 296 00:16:33,647 --> 00:16:34,924 So to make a long story short, 297 00:16:34,959 --> 00:16:36,823 I signed up with him and I spent three years 298 00:16:36,857 --> 00:16:39,239 in the Himalaya looking for the Yeti. 299 00:16:39,274 --> 00:16:40,792 When I came down from that, 300 00:16:40,827 --> 00:16:43,485 he invited me to come to the States. 301 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:46,384 He said, "You spent enough time up there, 302 00:16:46,419 --> 00:16:47,741 come to the States and look for Bigfoot." 303 00:16:47,765 --> 00:16:50,009 Well, I have to say I laughed. 304 00:16:50,043 --> 00:16:53,357 But I came over here and got into the search for Bigfoot. 305 00:16:56,601 --> 00:16:59,363 In the whole history of Bigfoot, 306 00:16:59,397 --> 00:17:01,744 there's been one piece of footage, 307 00:17:01,779 --> 00:17:06,370 16mm footage, taken by two men, 308 00:17:06,404 --> 00:17:08,648 Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin. 309 00:17:10,167 --> 00:17:12,203 Patterson has died, passed away. 310 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,000 I met him, interviewed him half a dozen times 311 00:17:16,035 --> 00:17:17,277 before he died. 312 00:17:17,312 --> 00:17:20,556 He came across to me as thoroughly credible. 313 00:17:20,591 --> 00:17:22,213 His associate Bob Gimlin 314 00:17:23,490 --> 00:17:26,355 is a man of great integrity, 315 00:17:26,390 --> 00:17:27,839 very much admired. 316 00:17:27,874 --> 00:17:29,738 He lives in Washington still. 317 00:17:30,877 --> 00:17:34,329 And I believe his story of what happened, 318 00:17:34,363 --> 00:17:35,709 the whole thing. 319 00:17:35,744 --> 00:17:37,504 - And Peter Byrne ran an organization 320 00:17:37,539 --> 00:17:40,024 called the Bigfoot Research Project. 321 00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:42,199 And I became part of his project 322 00:17:42,233 --> 00:17:45,685 and we paid for a group of scientists 323 00:17:45,719 --> 00:17:47,721 to analyze the Patterson film 324 00:17:47,756 --> 00:17:50,966 and prove that it was a guy in a gorilla suit. 325 00:17:52,416 --> 00:17:56,903 So we dropped about $500,000 and we couldn't do it. 326 00:17:56,937 --> 00:17:59,699 We really tried to use pure science 327 00:17:59,733 --> 00:18:04,083 and approach it with hard science. 328 00:18:05,498 --> 00:18:07,465 - The Patterson-Gimlin film clearly stands 329 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:11,297 as the most compelling photographic evidence 330 00:18:11,331 --> 00:18:12,574 that we have to date. 331 00:18:12,608 --> 00:18:14,541 Even in this age of iPhones 332 00:18:15,956 --> 00:18:18,407 and digital cameras and so forth, 333 00:18:18,442 --> 00:18:21,100 it still has set the mark so high. 334 00:18:21,134 --> 00:18:22,584 And not only do we have the film, 335 00:18:22,618 --> 00:18:25,034 but we have a remarkable track record associated with it. 336 00:18:25,069 --> 00:18:27,899 The cast that Roger Patterson executed himself 337 00:18:27,934 --> 00:18:29,453 on the day of the filming, 338 00:18:29,487 --> 00:18:32,283 but also some number of days later, 339 00:18:32,318 --> 00:18:34,803 Bob Titmus, a researcher from Canada, 340 00:18:34,837 --> 00:18:37,564 came to the scene and made a series 341 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:42,121 of 10 footprint casts that provided a remarkable record. 342 00:18:42,155 --> 00:18:45,054 But having the image of the track maker, 343 00:18:45,089 --> 00:18:48,265 combined with the tracks, as an anatomist, 344 00:18:48,299 --> 00:18:49,921 as a functional morphologist, 345 00:18:50,922 --> 00:18:52,407 I'm as convinced as I can be 346 00:18:52,441 --> 00:18:56,238 short of having stood there on the sandbar on that afternoon 347 00:18:56,273 --> 00:18:58,240 and witnessed the event myself. 348 00:19:00,069 --> 00:19:04,384 The suggestion that you'd work around the challenge 349 00:19:04,419 --> 00:19:08,250 of finding an oversized human male subject 350 00:19:08,285 --> 00:19:12,081 by portraying a female falls to the wayside 351 00:19:12,116 --> 00:19:15,671 when you scrutinize the specifics 352 00:19:15,706 --> 00:19:19,813 of what would have to be a fur suit 353 00:19:19,848 --> 00:19:22,299 and someone to fill that fur suit, 354 00:19:22,333 --> 00:19:25,474 which is just virtually impossible, 355 00:19:25,509 --> 00:19:29,961 especially given the technologies available in 1967. 356 00:19:29,996 --> 00:19:31,791 This is a piece of evidence that stands up 357 00:19:31,825 --> 00:19:34,173 under remarkable rigor 358 00:19:34,207 --> 00:19:38,211 that couldn't have possibly anticipated the technologies 359 00:19:38,246 --> 00:19:39,764 that we are applying to it today. 360 00:19:40,731 --> 00:19:42,284 - We had a great copy. 361 00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:44,907 We could see the muscles moving under the fur 362 00:19:44,942 --> 00:19:47,289 with the resolution we had. 363 00:19:47,324 --> 00:19:51,224 Everything that we did find in the film 364 00:19:51,259 --> 00:19:54,054 suggested it was actual observations 365 00:19:54,089 --> 00:19:56,367 of an uncataloged animal. 366 00:19:56,402 --> 00:19:59,439 There's an occipital protuberance on the back of the skull. 367 00:20:00,716 --> 00:20:03,374 And it has a point on the back of the skull 368 00:20:03,409 --> 00:20:05,687 where all the back muscles attach. 369 00:20:05,721 --> 00:20:08,655 It was designed for walking erect, 370 00:20:08,690 --> 00:20:11,658 which is a hominid variation. 371 00:20:11,693 --> 00:20:13,971 So it's not a primate, it's a hominid. 372 00:20:20,426 --> 00:20:22,842 - Going back to the silly question people ask, 373 00:20:22,876 --> 00:20:24,292 "Where would they hide?" 374 00:20:24,326 --> 00:20:26,777 The Pacific Northwest is enormous. 375 00:20:26,811 --> 00:20:29,297 Here we had the Mt. Hood National Forest, 376 00:20:29,331 --> 00:20:30,332 a million acres, 377 00:20:30,367 --> 00:20:33,370 acres that supply the essentials: 378 00:20:33,404 --> 00:20:35,406 food, water, cover, and space. 379 00:20:35,441 --> 00:20:38,133 Those four things which a wild animal requires. 380 00:20:39,341 --> 00:20:40,870 When I lived over in the Hood River Valley 381 00:20:40,894 --> 00:20:45,140 on my second project, a plane crashed two miles from me, 382 00:20:45,174 --> 00:20:46,106 a small plane. 383 00:20:46,141 --> 00:20:47,453 It took a year to find it. 384 00:20:48,454 --> 00:20:50,835 We're dealing with an enormous area 385 00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:53,493 which the pilots tell me they can't see into it. 386 00:20:53,528 --> 00:20:56,289 They fly over it and it's a carpet of trees. 387 00:20:56,324 --> 00:20:57,601 You can't see into it. 388 00:21:01,225 --> 00:21:02,226 - I spent 20 years 389 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:03,607 in the military 390 00:21:03,641 --> 00:21:05,471 looking and analyzing, 391 00:21:05,505 --> 00:21:08,543 maintaining various high complex medical devices 392 00:21:08,577 --> 00:21:12,374 and IT systems for the United States government. 393 00:21:12,409 --> 00:21:15,135 It's been very easy for me to transition that 394 00:21:15,170 --> 00:21:18,725 into the world of analytics for various topics. 395 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,279 It could be pretty much anything. 396 00:21:20,313 --> 00:21:23,558 And I've taken kind of an affinity to the Bigfoot community 397 00:21:23,592 --> 00:21:25,249 from that perspective. 398 00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:26,916 And then doing the research and finding out 399 00:21:26,940 --> 00:21:29,978 that less than 30% of North America 400 00:21:30,012 --> 00:21:31,324 has been actually walked by man. 401 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,844 What is in those areas of uninhabitable 402 00:21:33,878 --> 00:21:36,571 or untraversable environments, 403 00:21:36,605 --> 00:21:39,988 that's to me all the more alluring to find out 404 00:21:40,022 --> 00:21:41,196 what's in those areas. 405 00:21:42,439 --> 00:21:45,338 I just had a feeling that there was something more out there 406 00:21:45,373 --> 00:21:46,408 than what we are knowing. 407 00:21:47,961 --> 00:21:49,767 Scholars of the earth thought the earth was flat 408 00:21:49,791 --> 00:21:51,344 at one point in time 409 00:21:51,379 --> 00:21:53,312 and we are only surpassed 410 00:21:53,346 --> 00:21:55,659 by our utilization of technology 411 00:21:55,693 --> 00:21:58,903 and our understanding of science to leapfrog each other 412 00:21:58,938 --> 00:22:01,492 to be able to find things out that we don't know. 413 00:22:06,428 --> 00:22:07,981 - There's now always a place to go 414 00:22:08,016 --> 00:22:13,021 and see easily and interpret or digest data 415 00:22:14,263 --> 00:22:15,862 without reading pages and pages of reports. 416 00:22:15,886 --> 00:22:19,372 And a map puts those data points right in front of you. 417 00:22:19,407 --> 00:22:22,444 Maps tell a story immediately when you see them. 418 00:22:22,479 --> 00:22:24,135 I saw a parallel 419 00:22:24,170 --> 00:22:28,381 where I could use my mapping abilities and background 420 00:22:28,416 --> 00:22:33,386 to catalog and create a central repository 421 00:22:34,905 --> 00:22:37,942 for data relating to Bigfoot sightings and encounters 422 00:22:37,977 --> 00:22:40,842 and make it measurable and quantifiable 423 00:22:40,876 --> 00:22:44,846 and create a standard database or a data set 424 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,850 where we can apply big data concepts and principles. 425 00:22:48,884 --> 00:22:51,887 From Alaska all the way to Australia, 426 00:22:51,922 --> 00:22:54,303 we have sightings that have been submitted. 427 00:22:54,338 --> 00:22:56,409 Washington is the number one state. 428 00:22:56,444 --> 00:23:00,862 866 sightings in Washington State alone. 429 00:23:00,896 --> 00:23:03,002 And then when you start to go down the coast 430 00:23:03,036 --> 00:23:07,386 to Washington, Oregon, California, Bigfoot thrives here. 431 00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:09,422 - Bigfoot's intelligent. 432 00:23:09,457 --> 00:23:11,700 That's what helps their being elusive. 433 00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:17,430 They're not a herd of elk. 434 00:23:17,465 --> 00:23:19,536 They're not a pod of whales. 435 00:23:19,570 --> 00:23:22,470 They're hominids that are intelligent 436 00:23:22,504 --> 00:23:23,471 and they don't wanna be seen, 437 00:23:23,505 --> 00:23:25,093 they're not going to be seen. 438 00:23:25,127 --> 00:23:29,442 Most instances are accidental when we have witness sightings 439 00:23:31,651 --> 00:23:33,273 Patterns are the same, wherever you go 440 00:23:33,308 --> 00:23:35,759 that I have found in the areas that I have researched. 441 00:23:35,793 --> 00:23:40,246 So South, Southeast, and Northwest, 442 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,802 I have seen no difference and any kind of patterns. 443 00:23:44,837 --> 00:23:47,391 They're all individuals just like we are. 444 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:49,773 You're gonna have grumpy ones, happy ones, sad ones, 445 00:23:49,807 --> 00:23:52,051 fun ones, grouch, you know. 446 00:23:52,085 --> 00:23:54,467 So I think it's more of a personality difference 447 00:23:54,502 --> 00:23:58,333 between different individuals than regions. 448 00:23:58,367 --> 00:24:01,543 They're all different shapes and sizes and color. 449 00:24:01,578 --> 00:24:03,303 Just like we have different hair colors. 450 00:24:03,338 --> 00:24:06,203 They're red, brown, black, white, gray. 451 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:09,586 - The fact that they have remained unrecognized 452 00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:12,554 or unestablished as a species 453 00:24:12,589 --> 00:24:15,281 simply rests on their rarity 454 00:24:15,315 --> 00:24:17,283 and other aspects of their reported behavior. 455 00:24:17,317 --> 00:24:21,080 They're nocturnal, they're solitary, they're far-ranging, 456 00:24:21,114 --> 00:24:22,426 they're very generalized. 457 00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:23,610 Those are characteristics 458 00:24:23,634 --> 00:24:25,291 of any animal species 459 00:24:25,325 --> 00:24:27,673 that render it very difficult to study 460 00:24:27,707 --> 00:24:30,814 let alone trap or obtain a specimen in the wild. 461 00:24:49,349 --> 00:24:53,422 - The first encounter I had that I know for sure of, 462 00:24:53,457 --> 00:24:55,010 I was six years old. 463 00:24:55,045 --> 00:24:56,460 I was at my grandmother's house. 464 00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:59,290 I was outside playing in the dirt. 465 00:24:59,325 --> 00:25:01,603 I had sticks and things gathered up 466 00:25:01,638 --> 00:25:04,364 and I was just sitting there on the ground playing 467 00:25:04,399 --> 00:25:06,574 when I heard somebody walk up. 468 00:25:06,608 --> 00:25:08,403 I thought it was my grandmother 469 00:25:08,437 --> 00:25:10,267 but when I looked up, 470 00:25:10,301 --> 00:25:15,306 there was a young male juvenile standing there 471 00:25:16,963 --> 00:25:19,000 And I looked at him for a little bit 472 00:25:19,034 --> 00:25:21,140 and we stared at each other. 473 00:25:21,174 --> 00:25:23,383 And you know, I go back and try to think 474 00:25:23,418 --> 00:25:27,422 of what was really going through my mind. 475 00:25:27,456 --> 00:25:29,873 Was I just looking at him and saying, 476 00:25:29,907 --> 00:25:31,909 man, that's a really hairy kid 477 00:25:31,944 --> 00:25:35,050 or what was this? 478 00:25:35,085 --> 00:25:39,227 And pretty much I jumped up after he turned and walked away 479 00:25:39,261 --> 00:25:41,919 and went in and asked my grandmother, 480 00:25:41,954 --> 00:25:43,369 "What was that?" 481 00:25:43,403 --> 00:25:48,305 And all she said to me was, "What do you think it was?" 482 00:25:48,339 --> 00:25:51,377 And then later, we began to talk about it 483 00:25:51,411 --> 00:25:54,829 and she began to tell me things about them, 484 00:25:54,863 --> 00:25:58,591 things that she had known all her life. 485 00:26:00,110 --> 00:26:02,561 I've been from coast to coast. 486 00:26:03,389 --> 00:26:07,186 And I've had many encounters. 487 00:26:07,220 --> 00:26:09,533 Some of 'em nothing more than them 488 00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:11,949 just letting us know. 489 00:26:11,984 --> 00:26:14,711 Some of 'em even more 490 00:26:14,745 --> 00:26:18,335 where I actually interacted with them. 491 00:26:30,934 --> 00:26:35,248 - In '98, I became a police officer 492 00:26:35,283 --> 00:26:38,458 for Department of Defense in Puget Sound Naval Shipyard. 493 00:26:38,493 --> 00:26:40,436 That's where I kinda started my law enforcement career. 494 00:26:40,460 --> 00:26:42,186 I was 21 years old. 495 00:26:42,221 --> 00:26:43,785 And I worked there for a couple of years 496 00:26:43,809 --> 00:26:45,742 and then I moved out to the west end, 497 00:26:45,776 --> 00:26:49,469 out in Forks, and I became a cop in La Push. 498 00:26:49,504 --> 00:26:53,404 And that's where I had my first Bigfoot encounter. 499 00:26:59,341 --> 00:27:01,457 I was actually coming into work on swing shift that day 500 00:27:01,481 --> 00:27:03,207 and I was driving down La Push Road. 501 00:27:04,450 --> 00:27:05,669 Before you get to the reservation, 502 00:27:05,693 --> 00:27:08,419 you come to to the Third Beach Trailhead. 503 00:27:08,454 --> 00:27:10,352 And in fact, within couple hundred yards, 504 00:27:10,387 --> 00:27:12,078 there was just tons of people on the beach 505 00:27:12,113 --> 00:27:13,528 around the corner. 506 00:27:13,562 --> 00:27:15,634 And I'm coming down the hill towards this. 507 00:27:15,668 --> 00:27:18,429 And I'm probably like 70 yards 508 00:27:18,464 --> 00:27:20,259 when I first see this thing. 509 00:27:20,293 --> 00:27:23,469 And then it's just big figure just steps out of the brush. 510 00:27:23,503 --> 00:27:26,368 And then it just kinda just glides across the road. 511 00:27:26,403 --> 00:27:27,680 And it doesn't even look at me. 512 00:27:27,715 --> 00:27:30,338 And it took about four steps and it hit the fence 513 00:27:30,372 --> 00:27:32,512 and it disappeared into the salmonberries. 514 00:27:34,342 --> 00:27:36,044 When I first saw it, I was a trained observer, 515 00:27:36,068 --> 00:27:37,172 I'm a police officer. 516 00:27:38,139 --> 00:27:39,796 I'm looking at this giant figure 517 00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:42,177 that was like that thick from chest to back. 518 00:27:42,212 --> 00:27:44,352 I mean, and huge eight feet tall, 519 00:27:44,386 --> 00:27:48,977 non-human gait, but humanoid. 520 00:27:49,012 --> 00:27:52,463 And I'm trying to classify what this thing is, 521 00:27:52,498 --> 00:27:55,052 but it's not real. 522 00:27:56,364 --> 00:27:59,919 And I know what it is, but what it is is not real. 523 00:28:11,206 --> 00:28:13,692 - April 3rd, 1993, 524 00:28:13,726 --> 00:28:18,144 I was participating in a military training exercise 525 00:28:18,179 --> 00:28:21,700 and this is an exercise where we use a lot of explosives 526 00:28:21,734 --> 00:28:23,771 in our training, utilizing rock quarries. 527 00:28:25,842 --> 00:28:29,259 We had three explosions to do that day in the morning. 528 00:28:29,293 --> 00:28:32,400 And it was shortly after we set the fuses 529 00:28:32,434 --> 00:28:35,437 on that third and final blast of the day 530 00:28:35,472 --> 00:28:38,406 that we would get in our vehicles, 531 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,133 we'd convoy down to a safety staging area, 532 00:28:41,167 --> 00:28:44,067 wait for the explosion, and come back and check our work. 533 00:28:49,382 --> 00:28:53,076 I was situated as a passenger behind a driver 534 00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:54,353 of the second Humvee. 535 00:28:55,147 --> 00:28:57,321 As we rounded this one corner, 536 00:28:57,356 --> 00:29:00,083 I had a direct line of sight 537 00:29:00,117 --> 00:29:02,395 to the second blast site. 538 00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:03,603 We came around that corner, 539 00:29:03,638 --> 00:29:04,777 I'm looking down there 540 00:29:04,812 --> 00:29:07,573 and there's like these three very dark, 541 00:29:07,607 --> 00:29:10,749 very large figures standing 542 00:29:10,783 --> 00:29:12,681 three abreast of each other, 543 00:29:12,716 --> 00:29:16,755 watching us come down the road across the ravine from them. 544 00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:18,032 My first thought was, 545 00:29:18,066 --> 00:29:19,423 what are those people doing down there? 546 00:29:19,447 --> 00:29:22,346 There's not supposed to be civilians in the area. 547 00:29:22,381 --> 00:29:24,901 It took less than a second 548 00:29:24,935 --> 00:29:26,215 for me to realize 549 00:29:26,247 --> 00:29:28,732 what I was looking at were not people at all. 550 00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:31,942 The arms of these things went well below their knees, 551 00:29:31,977 --> 00:29:35,739 unbelievably long arms, very broad shoulders, 552 00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:37,741 barrel chest, tapered waist. 553 00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:39,329 The legs were quite long as well. 554 00:29:40,675 --> 00:29:43,126 The one in the middle was I would estimate 555 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,437 about nine feet in height. 556 00:29:45,542 --> 00:29:48,441 And the two that flanked it left and right 557 00:29:48,476 --> 00:29:50,892 were probably seven and a half to eight feet. 558 00:29:50,927 --> 00:29:52,480 The one in the middle though, 559 00:29:52,514 --> 00:29:54,654 he stood there like a rock, just like a statue. 560 00:29:54,689 --> 00:29:57,140 He, it just did not flinch. 561 00:29:57,174 --> 00:30:00,005 But the two on either side of this larger one 562 00:30:01,351 --> 00:30:04,423 exhibited this behavior where they were shifting weight 563 00:30:04,457 --> 00:30:06,011 from foot to foot 564 00:30:06,045 --> 00:30:09,428 and in the process rocking left to right like this, 565 00:30:09,462 --> 00:30:12,500 these long arms were swinging 566 00:30:12,534 --> 00:30:14,985 in front of their knees. 567 00:30:16,193 --> 00:30:19,265 And they did that the entire time I saw them. 568 00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:22,268 After say 25 seconds had elapsed, 569 00:30:22,303 --> 00:30:24,408 seemed like an eternity, 570 00:30:24,443 --> 00:30:27,032 we rounded another corner and I lost sight of 'em. 571 00:30:27,066 --> 00:30:30,483 And just at that, I just slumped back in my seat, 572 00:30:30,518 --> 00:30:32,278 and I'm just trying to, 573 00:30:32,313 --> 00:30:34,384 trying to comprehend what I just saw. 574 00:30:38,526 --> 00:30:40,942 - July 1st, 2021. 575 00:30:40,977 --> 00:30:44,428 I'm in Idaho with my buddy, Jim, 576 00:30:45,429 --> 00:30:47,776 and what you'll see here's his rig. 577 00:30:49,226 --> 00:30:52,436 Anyway, just a couple minutes ago, 578 00:30:52,471 --> 00:30:56,233 I saw a huge giant Sasquatch standing right there. 579 00:30:58,546 --> 00:30:59,892 Only saw it for a second or two 580 00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:02,515 through the trees as we drove by 581 00:31:02,550 --> 00:31:04,217 and then Jim backed up and he caught a glimpse of it 582 00:31:04,241 --> 00:31:06,450 and then it was gone. 583 00:31:08,176 --> 00:31:10,489 We packed up camp and we started heading 584 00:31:10,523 --> 00:31:14,355 down the forest service road that follows the creek 585 00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:17,220 and I said to Jim, I go, 586 00:31:17,254 --> 00:31:19,325 "I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Bigfoot family 587 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,544 standing right in the middle of the road." 588 00:31:20,568 --> 00:31:21,603 And we kinda laughed. 589 00:31:22,846 --> 00:31:25,021 And about a half a mile down the road, 590 00:31:25,055 --> 00:31:27,437 I'm keeping an eye on the creek as we're driving real slow 591 00:31:27,471 --> 00:31:29,370 about 15 miles an hour, 592 00:31:29,404 --> 00:31:32,373 and I see this huge figure 593 00:31:32,407 --> 00:31:35,376 and I could see these huge shoulders. 594 00:31:35,410 --> 00:31:36,411 And I said to Jim, 595 00:31:36,446 --> 00:31:38,344 "Stop, I see a huge moose. Back up." 596 00:31:38,379 --> 00:31:41,140 And I said, "I mean, I see a huge Sasquatch. Back up." 597 00:31:41,175 --> 00:31:43,384 And he goes, we backed up a little bit. 598 00:31:43,418 --> 00:31:44,937 And he says, "Oh, I see it too." 599 00:31:44,972 --> 00:31:48,285 It had stood up and you could just still just see 600 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,390 the massive shoulders 601 00:31:49,424 --> 00:31:51,254 and the body came in a little bit 602 00:31:51,288 --> 00:31:53,256 and it was just super big and super thick 603 00:31:53,290 --> 00:31:54,774 all the way to the water. 604 00:31:54,809 --> 00:31:56,328 I think it was standing in the creek. 605 00:31:56,362 --> 00:31:57,294 One second it's there 606 00:31:57,329 --> 00:31:58,917 and in the blink of an eye, 607 00:31:58,951 --> 00:32:00,401 it's just not there anymore. 608 00:32:03,438 --> 00:32:04,450 - Really like the outdoors. 609 00:32:04,474 --> 00:32:06,959 I've always hunted, fished, camped, 610 00:32:06,994 --> 00:32:08,719 done it with my family growing up, 611 00:32:08,754 --> 00:32:11,446 being married and having kids and we do the same thing. 612 00:32:11,481 --> 00:32:13,379 Been into archery, pretty hardcore 613 00:32:13,414 --> 00:32:15,795 since I was about 14 years old. 614 00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:17,521 I've seen cougars 615 00:32:17,556 --> 00:32:18,419 in the woods. 616 00:32:18,453 --> 00:32:22,768 I've seen bear deer, elk, moose, 617 00:32:22,802 --> 00:32:25,564 lotta smaller game, fox and stuff like that. 618 00:32:25,598 --> 00:32:28,498 There's not too many animals in Oregon that I haven't seen. 619 00:32:29,499 --> 00:32:31,742 Labor Day weekend, 2019. 620 00:32:31,777 --> 00:32:34,055 I'd been going over to this particular area 621 00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:36,644 in Eastern Oregon for couple months 622 00:32:36,678 --> 00:32:38,370 since about mid-May. 623 00:32:39,578 --> 00:32:41,649 I sat down by this water trough. 624 00:32:41,683 --> 00:32:43,478 As a hunter, you're always playing the wind. 625 00:32:43,513 --> 00:32:45,653 You always hunt with the wind in your face. 626 00:32:45,687 --> 00:32:48,621 So I was set up that night, wind in my face, 627 00:32:50,278 --> 00:32:52,246 and I'm kind of sitting there and out of the, 628 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,352 off to my left, I just catch a little bit of movement. 629 00:32:55,387 --> 00:32:58,148 So I kinda turned my eyes real slow 630 00:32:58,183 --> 00:33:00,495 and my head real slow over to look. 631 00:33:00,530 --> 00:33:03,395 And I see a head pop out and go right back. 632 00:33:03,429 --> 00:33:04,810 And so in my head I thought, 633 00:33:04,844 --> 00:33:06,167 oh, it's a hunter, another hunter. 634 00:33:06,191 --> 00:33:07,858 But I thought to myself, that's kinda weird. 635 00:33:07,882 --> 00:33:09,780 I never heard him come in 636 00:33:09,815 --> 00:33:11,472 and I should've heard him come in. 637 00:33:11,506 --> 00:33:14,613 So I just kinda kept staring at that same spot. 638 00:33:14,647 --> 00:33:16,477 And then it stuck its head out. 639 00:33:16,511 --> 00:33:20,619 And it was what, you know, 640 00:33:20,653 --> 00:33:22,655 doesn't exist supposedly. 641 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,865 Bigfoot sticks its head out, stares at me 642 00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:29,973 for probably 10 to 15 seconds 643 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,940 and then slowly pulls his head back. 644 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,358 I just sat there dumbfounded 645 00:33:35,392 --> 00:33:37,739 like what in the hell did I just see? 646 00:33:37,774 --> 00:33:39,534 These things don't exist. 647 00:33:41,364 --> 00:33:42,686 I've been in the woods long enough. 648 00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:44,298 I know of what I've seen. 649 00:33:44,332 --> 00:33:47,853 I knew it was not a bear. 650 00:33:47,887 --> 00:33:50,545 Absolutely 100% not a bear. 651 00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:53,134 So I sat there for, like I said, probably five minutes 652 00:33:53,169 --> 00:33:57,069 just kinda trying to gather my thoughts 653 00:33:57,104 --> 00:33:59,244 and get my wits about me. 654 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,424 - I've had a physical experience. 655 00:34:08,391 --> 00:34:11,118 I put a infrared alarm system up seven feet 656 00:34:11,152 --> 00:34:14,328 and it will only go off at seven feet. 657 00:34:14,362 --> 00:34:18,332 At midnight, 658 00:34:18,366 --> 00:34:19,540 my alarm goes off. 659 00:34:19,574 --> 00:34:21,300 I'm up, going through the ceiling. 660 00:34:21,335 --> 00:34:22,612 The dog's sitting up. 661 00:34:23,958 --> 00:34:26,409 And something's going around my tent. 662 00:34:26,443 --> 00:34:27,523 And it's going. 663 00:34:29,550 --> 00:34:32,553 And you could hear footfall as it's going around my tent. 664 00:34:33,899 --> 00:34:37,385 The dog jumps in my face, 665 00:34:37,420 --> 00:34:40,457 goes down into the bottom of my mummy bag. 666 00:34:40,492 --> 00:34:42,149 I'm scratched up all to pieces. 667 00:34:43,426 --> 00:34:45,980 I'm laying there. 668 00:34:46,014 --> 00:34:48,638 And it stops behind me. 669 00:34:51,330 --> 00:34:54,022 All of a sudden my tent starts getting pushed in. 670 00:34:57,405 --> 00:35:01,685 And then contact on the back of my head. 671 00:35:03,998 --> 00:35:08,382 Its palm was at the base of my neck. 672 00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:13,594 Its thumb right here. 673 00:35:14,767 --> 00:35:19,013 The top of the hand right here, 674 00:35:19,047 --> 00:35:22,810 as it's gently manipulating my head, 675 00:35:22,844 --> 00:35:24,950 pushing through my tent. 676 00:35:24,984 --> 00:35:26,928 So I go, "What am I gonna do, what am I gonna do, 677 00:35:26,952 --> 00:35:27,953 what am I gonna do?" 678 00:35:29,265 --> 00:35:31,163 I grabbed my keys for my truck 679 00:35:31,198 --> 00:35:33,407 and I burped the alarm system on it. 680 00:35:34,856 --> 00:35:35,961 And it backed away. 681 00:35:47,179 --> 00:35:52,150 - In June 2019, seven loggers were working 682 00:35:53,289 --> 00:35:54,876 place called the Wilson River Drainage. 683 00:35:58,535 --> 00:36:01,504 And they're in a closed area which is all gated. 684 00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:04,438 The public does not get in at all. 685 00:36:04,472 --> 00:36:07,855 They were working with two very loud pieces of machinery. 686 00:36:08,856 --> 00:36:11,307 One was pulling logs up a hill. 687 00:36:11,341 --> 00:36:12,998 The other was loading them into trucks. 688 00:36:13,032 --> 00:36:14,344 Tremendous noise. 689 00:36:14,379 --> 00:36:15,828 One of them stops and says, 690 00:36:15,863 --> 00:36:18,279 "Who's that walking down the road towards us?" 691 00:36:18,314 --> 00:36:20,178 And about 300 yards away, 692 00:36:21,662 --> 00:36:24,320 they say a Sasquatch, a Bigfoot, 693 00:36:24,354 --> 00:36:26,529 was walking down the road in midday. 694 00:36:28,255 --> 00:36:31,534 These are working loggers. These are not tourists. 695 00:36:31,568 --> 00:36:33,052 None of them had a camera. 696 00:36:33,087 --> 00:36:35,469 So the thing walked up to about 200 yards away. 697 00:36:35,503 --> 00:36:38,541 It stopped, looked at them, turned and walked away. 698 00:36:39,749 --> 00:36:43,062 They said it was seven feet tall at least, 699 00:36:43,097 --> 00:36:46,721 400, 450 pounds, enormous, 700 00:36:46,756 --> 00:36:50,656 dark brown in color, swinging its arms, walking upright. 701 00:36:50,691 --> 00:36:52,382 And when it stopped, stopped like this, 702 00:36:52,417 --> 00:36:54,281 with its hands out, looked at them, 703 00:36:54,315 --> 00:36:55,661 turned and walked away. 704 00:36:57,318 --> 00:36:59,424 We believe these things are nocturnal. 705 00:37:00,701 --> 00:37:03,359 So my theory there is the noise of the machinery 706 00:37:03,393 --> 00:37:04,739 got it up and moving 707 00:37:04,774 --> 00:37:06,983 and it didn't know where the noise is coming from, 708 00:37:07,017 --> 00:37:09,296 which happens with wild animals very often. 709 00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:11,436 They can't pinpoint sound. 710 00:37:11,470 --> 00:37:14,749 And started moving, saw the loggers, and walked away. 711 00:37:14,784 --> 00:37:16,855 They called it the Seven Man Sighting. 712 00:37:16,889 --> 00:37:19,513 I got into the area with great difficulty, 713 00:37:19,547 --> 00:37:21,618 got permission, went in there, 714 00:37:21,653 --> 00:37:24,518 spent a whole day, found some footprints, 715 00:37:24,552 --> 00:37:27,935 great big footprints in a shallow stream bed nearby. 716 00:37:30,455 --> 00:37:32,526 This is seven down-to-earth loggers 717 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,701 with 20 or more years of experience. 718 00:37:36,702 --> 00:37:38,428 They're not mistaking something. 719 00:37:40,085 --> 00:37:41,362 They knew what they saw. 720 00:37:47,437 --> 00:37:48,818 - The way it started for me 721 00:37:48,852 --> 00:37:52,373 was my son actually ended up finding a single track 722 00:37:52,408 --> 00:37:53,719 deep in the icy mud 723 00:37:53,754 --> 00:37:55,928 outside of the town of Thurston, Oregon. 724 00:37:55,963 --> 00:37:58,345 And I thought, well, maybe it's a hoax, 725 00:37:58,379 --> 00:37:59,898 maybe it's legit, 726 00:37:59,932 --> 00:38:02,314 but for us it was a bigger question of what if? 727 00:38:02,349 --> 00:38:04,834 You know, I'd always loved a good mystery. 728 00:38:04,868 --> 00:38:06,732 And I thought, well, I'll introduce Jude 729 00:38:06,767 --> 00:38:09,321 to a really cool mystery. 730 00:38:09,356 --> 00:38:12,013 And so, it just so happened that one of our neighbors 731 00:38:12,048 --> 00:38:14,602 filmed a movie about Bigfoot back in the '70s, 732 00:38:14,637 --> 00:38:17,295 loosely based on Patterson-Gimlin. 733 00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:19,331 And he looked at the photo, 734 00:38:19,366 --> 00:38:21,885 which we had had the mind to put a scale object next to 735 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,439 to show size. 736 00:38:23,473 --> 00:38:25,244 And he said, "You know, it's interesting enough. 737 00:38:25,268 --> 00:38:28,685 It could be a hoax, but I know somebody you can talk to." 738 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:30,446 And so I met this river guide 739 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,345 and he ended up telling me after our initial meeting 740 00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:36,175 that "Not only is Bigfoot real, 741 00:38:36,210 --> 00:38:38,350 but I've seen them several times. 742 00:38:38,385 --> 00:38:40,352 In fact, they come to my house." 743 00:38:40,387 --> 00:38:44,080 Which was a whole new phenomena. 744 00:38:44,114 --> 00:38:47,497 I had no idea that you could be a witness multiple times 745 00:38:47,532 --> 00:38:49,257 and then be an extended experiencer 746 00:38:49,292 --> 00:38:51,639 or someone who quite literally has Bigfoot 747 00:38:51,674 --> 00:38:53,469 in their own backyard. 748 00:38:54,884 --> 00:38:58,336 That right there was really the trigger point for me 749 00:38:58,370 --> 00:39:01,304 to meet my first extended experiencer, 750 00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:03,375 which Darrell would end up becoming 751 00:39:03,410 --> 00:39:05,481 the ultimate extended experiencer. 752 00:39:06,861 --> 00:39:09,381 - When I first moved to the house down here below us, 753 00:39:09,416 --> 00:39:13,109 I would hear things at night up in these hills right here. 754 00:39:13,143 --> 00:39:15,974 It prompted me to look for someone 755 00:39:16,008 --> 00:39:18,148 that knew what those sounds might be 756 00:39:18,183 --> 00:39:21,151 'cause they were so strange. 757 00:39:21,186 --> 00:39:23,671 - Darrell wanted to meet a local. 758 00:39:23,706 --> 00:39:25,017 He had just moved to town 759 00:39:25,052 --> 00:39:27,330 and he didn't really know any locals here 760 00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:30,506 that were into such a strange subject or hobby. 761 00:39:30,540 --> 00:39:33,681 And so that's when we met and we hit it off. 762 00:39:33,716 --> 00:39:36,374 And so we set up a kind of a date 763 00:39:36,408 --> 00:39:38,824 to meet up at his house. 764 00:39:38,859 --> 00:39:40,895 And that's when things kinda took off. 765 00:39:51,250 --> 00:39:55,220 - My first sighting was Christmas Day 1993. 766 00:39:55,254 --> 00:39:59,880 Myself and two nephews went for a drive looking for deer 767 00:39:59,914 --> 00:40:03,470 and had the usual 15-second roadside sighting. 768 00:40:03,504 --> 00:40:05,610 The thing was balled up in a root mass, 769 00:40:05,644 --> 00:40:09,165 stood up and looked at us, thoroughly annoyed. 770 00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:13,514 I was only about 20 to 30 feet away 771 00:40:13,549 --> 00:40:18,554 and stepped out of the blow down in two steps, 772 00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:20,521 which was a feat in itself, 773 00:40:20,556 --> 00:40:21,902 and walked into the forest. 774 00:40:21,936 --> 00:40:23,938 I told the boys it was a big bear. 775 00:40:25,319 --> 00:40:27,425 I didn't even wanna really think about it. 776 00:40:28,702 --> 00:40:29,702 That was that. 777 00:40:30,738 --> 00:40:33,810 The biggest thing is to stay awake at night. 778 00:40:34,742 --> 00:40:37,193 Some nights the forest is alive. 779 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:41,542 It generally has to do with phases of the moon. 780 00:40:42,888 --> 00:40:46,927 And then we found out that with proper enticements, 781 00:40:46,961 --> 00:40:49,481 offerings, occasionally one of these things 782 00:40:49,516 --> 00:40:51,483 would come into camp. 783 00:41:01,148 --> 00:41:02,460 - Let me show you this map. 784 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,772 I'll give you a little bit 785 00:41:04,807 --> 00:41:08,189 of background and provenance. 786 00:41:08,224 --> 00:41:09,570 Can I just hold it up like this? 787 00:41:09,605 --> 00:41:12,400 Yeah, this map was up somewhere around 12 years 788 00:41:12,435 --> 00:41:14,955 in the BLM office, Bureau of Land Management office, 789 00:41:14,989 --> 00:41:16,715 in North Bend, Oregon. 790 00:41:16,750 --> 00:41:21,237 And I learned about it from federal and state officials 791 00:41:21,271 --> 00:41:23,308 that were conversant in that office. 792 00:41:23,342 --> 00:41:25,517 And so they would talk to me about it. 793 00:41:25,552 --> 00:41:28,347 And I would say, "I'd sure like to see that map." 794 00:41:28,382 --> 00:41:29,935 And I'd kinda got nowhere 795 00:41:29,970 --> 00:41:32,317 but there was one federal official 796 00:41:32,351 --> 00:41:35,596 and I would work sometimes on his plumbing. 797 00:41:35,631 --> 00:41:39,289 And finally he sent me a screenshot of it and this is it. 798 00:41:39,324 --> 00:41:42,638 And I think the following year they took it down 799 00:41:42,672 --> 00:41:46,227 when they found out that it had been disseminated. 800 00:41:49,541 --> 00:41:53,441 This is a collection of, among other things, 801 00:41:53,476 --> 00:41:56,099 stories where I am confided in 802 00:41:56,134 --> 00:41:58,585 by my plumbing customers in their homes, 803 00:41:58,619 --> 00:42:00,345 where they have a Bigfoot story 804 00:42:00,379 --> 00:42:02,416 that they would like to tell somebody 805 00:42:02,450 --> 00:42:05,005 but they can't and everyone understands why. 806 00:42:06,385 --> 00:42:09,423 There's a stigma about the whole thing in many circles 807 00:42:09,457 --> 00:42:12,288 and so what I do very purposefully 808 00:42:12,322 --> 00:42:14,324 is I let my customers know, 809 00:42:14,359 --> 00:42:16,361 'cause they all know me, I'm their plumber. 810 00:42:16,395 --> 00:42:17,845 They've known me for many years. 811 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,641 I let them know that I know that the Bigfoot are very real. 812 00:42:20,676 --> 00:42:23,851 It's not controversial or it shouldn't be. 813 00:42:23,886 --> 00:42:25,404 Even if in the beginning, they'll say, 814 00:42:25,439 --> 00:42:27,072 "Well, no, I don't believe in that stuff." 815 00:42:27,096 --> 00:42:28,856 It's the funniest thing. 816 00:42:28,891 --> 00:42:31,376 Maybe like a half hour later as I'm doing their plumbing job 817 00:42:31,410 --> 00:42:33,585 and we're conversing, they'll say, 818 00:42:33,620 --> 00:42:36,415 "Well, here's what happened to me." 819 00:42:36,450 --> 00:42:38,659 And they'll tell me their story. 820 00:42:38,694 --> 00:42:41,662 And I have a whole collection of them in here. 821 00:42:41,697 --> 00:42:45,355 Many stories from very, very credible people 822 00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:46,633 in this area. 823 00:42:46,667 --> 00:42:48,635 Probably I would say anecdotally 824 00:42:48,669 --> 00:42:51,396 more of my customers have had 825 00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:52,580 some kind of a Bigfoot encounter 826 00:42:52,604 --> 00:42:54,364 than have had cougar encounters 827 00:42:54,399 --> 00:42:56,574 'cause it's very rare to see a cougar. 828 00:43:00,612 --> 00:43:03,822 There's a family of Bigfoot that has lived for years 829 00:43:03,857 --> 00:43:05,272 at the county dump. 830 00:43:05,306 --> 00:43:07,688 When the lights go out and the gate is locked 831 00:43:07,723 --> 00:43:09,483 and there's no one there at the dump, 832 00:43:09,517 --> 00:43:10,702 the Bigfoot come in every night 833 00:43:10,726 --> 00:43:13,452 and there's a smorgasbord there 834 00:43:13,487 --> 00:43:15,603 'cause they're the only animals that can get into the pit 835 00:43:15,627 --> 00:43:16,628 and back out. 836 00:43:18,388 --> 00:43:21,771 A local historian and cartographer with considerable effort, 837 00:43:21,806 --> 00:43:24,602 gotten a few of the employees at the dump 838 00:43:24,636 --> 00:43:27,501 to admit that the Bigfoot are there. 839 00:43:27,535 --> 00:43:32,161 This right here is a photograph that was given to me 840 00:43:33,369 --> 00:43:34,508 of a trail cam. 841 00:43:34,542 --> 00:43:37,787 This is just maybe a half hour from here. 842 00:43:37,822 --> 00:43:40,790 It's a family, a very, a reputable family 843 00:43:40,825 --> 00:43:43,517 that owns land all over here 844 00:43:43,551 --> 00:43:46,658 and they're hunters and so they set out trail cams. 845 00:43:46,693 --> 00:43:49,592 And they took this photograph, 846 00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:51,974 probably I think 10 years ago or so, 847 00:43:52,008 --> 00:43:54,321 and they never showed it to anybody. 848 00:43:54,355 --> 00:43:57,600 And then they decided to entrust it to their plumber. 849 00:43:57,635 --> 00:43:59,084 That would be me. 850 00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:02,053 There's a man and woman that I know here in town 851 00:44:02,087 --> 00:44:05,228 and they're pretty well-known, great people. 852 00:44:05,263 --> 00:44:07,506 They were camping with friends for four days 853 00:44:07,541 --> 00:44:09,232 on the Elk River. 854 00:44:09,267 --> 00:44:12,684 And he sent me a photograph that they got 855 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,927 while they were there. 856 00:44:13,961 --> 00:44:16,412 He said, "We watched this for awhile, 857 00:44:16,446 --> 00:44:19,726 but it was an obviously a juvenile ape. 858 00:44:21,072 --> 00:44:23,695 It looked like an adult old chimpanzee 859 00:44:23,730 --> 00:44:24,972 that was just hanging 860 00:44:25,007 --> 00:44:27,492 out up in a dead old growth tree." 861 00:44:27,526 --> 00:44:29,114 You can look at this and think, 862 00:44:29,149 --> 00:44:32,014 okay, either it's some sort of a gnarly growth on that tree 863 00:44:32,048 --> 00:44:35,224 that looks exactly like a chimpanzee. 864 00:44:35,258 --> 00:44:36,684 And he said, "We watched it for awhile." 865 00:44:36,708 --> 00:44:38,952 But he said the thing that was more remarkable 866 00:44:38,986 --> 00:44:42,196 was the noises that the apes would make at night. 867 00:44:42,231 --> 00:44:45,924 And he said they would make this loud gibberish 868 00:44:45,959 --> 00:44:49,963 and howling and barks and whistles 869 00:44:49,997 --> 00:44:51,906 and just all these noises they would make at night. 870 00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:53,552 It was rather disconcerting. 871 00:45:14,919 --> 00:45:17,645 - This all began for me in 1971 872 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,234 when I was invited into the camp where these guys 873 00:45:20,269 --> 00:45:25,274 had been experiencing these horrific sounds around the camp. 874 00:45:25,930 --> 00:45:26,827 It was a nightly thing 875 00:45:26,862 --> 00:45:28,726 and I started going up there. 876 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,382 Eight miles in the wilderness, 877 00:45:30,417 --> 00:45:31,556 a very imposing area 878 00:45:31,590 --> 00:45:34,076 in the Sierra Nevada Mountains of California. 879 00:45:34,110 --> 00:45:36,457 And nobody up there was looking for Bigfoot. 880 00:45:36,492 --> 00:45:38,701 It just really wasn't that way. 881 00:45:39,806 --> 00:45:41,704 Because we had repeated the visits up there, 882 00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:43,533 we started taking cassette tape recorders 883 00:45:43,568 --> 00:45:45,363 and recording the sounds. 884 00:45:46,882 --> 00:45:49,539 There's two of 'em across the creek at the big rocks. 885 00:46:04,589 --> 00:46:06,764 - I spent a career in the Navy 886 00:46:06,798 --> 00:46:09,905 as a cryptolinguist, 887 00:46:09,939 --> 00:46:14,461 a translator of Russian, Spanish, and Persian. 888 00:46:14,495 --> 00:46:18,845 I played it and I immediately knew. 889 00:46:18,879 --> 00:46:20,467 I could hear it. 890 00:46:20,501 --> 00:46:24,264 And I was stunned. 891 00:46:24,298 --> 00:46:26,369 There's a language here! 892 00:46:26,404 --> 00:46:27,785 And that is not a human being. 893 00:46:49,876 --> 00:46:53,051 The articulation of the phonemes 894 00:46:53,086 --> 00:46:55,813 are virtually the same as humans. 895 00:46:58,781 --> 00:47:00,783 They make the same sounds that we do, 896 00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:04,511 ah, with about six or seven extra ones 897 00:47:06,340 --> 00:47:09,481 that I've never heard a human make in any language. 898 00:47:13,485 --> 00:47:16,454 It would be impossible 899 00:47:17,386 --> 00:47:19,457 to fake something like this. 900 00:47:19,491 --> 00:47:23,461 - And according to Dr. Lieberman in 1968 at Brown University 901 00:47:23,495 --> 00:47:25,843 only humans have the apparatus for language 902 00:47:25,877 --> 00:47:27,154 like we have. 903 00:47:27,189 --> 00:47:29,087 That separates us from all the other animals 904 00:47:29,122 --> 00:47:31,883 in the kingdom of this earth. 905 00:47:31,918 --> 00:47:34,990 So that tells me something, 906 00:47:35,024 --> 00:47:36,957 something pretty significant. 907 00:47:36,992 --> 00:47:40,340 If they have the vocal mechanism for language, 908 00:47:41,962 --> 00:47:44,551 maybe they got some human component to them. 909 00:48:03,397 --> 00:48:05,848 - Skepticism is a useful tool, 910 00:48:05,883 --> 00:48:08,782 but they'll say, "Well, why don't we have a skeleton? 911 00:48:08,816 --> 00:48:10,035 Why don't we have something?" 912 00:48:10,059 --> 00:48:12,165 And there are several reasons for that. 913 00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:14,822 One is because the government isn't going to release 914 00:48:14,857 --> 00:48:17,411 the skeletons because it would be a disaster. 915 00:48:17,446 --> 00:48:19,551 As that same government official told me, 916 00:48:19,586 --> 00:48:22,382 "We have to keep it as a legend." 917 00:48:23,555 --> 00:48:25,764 If we ever tried to pull the trigger 918 00:48:25,799 --> 00:48:28,388 on the Endangered Species Act, 919 00:48:28,422 --> 00:48:31,874 we can't because you have to be able to count the population 920 00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:34,601 and they are too intelligent and elusive to do so. 921 00:48:34,635 --> 00:48:37,052 And then we would end up with a bunch of primates 922 00:48:37,086 --> 00:48:40,607 out in the woods with guns, hunting larger primates, 923 00:48:40,641 --> 00:48:42,057 and it would not go well. 924 00:48:42,091 --> 00:48:44,266 And so the government is well served 925 00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:45,784 by keeping it as a legend. 926 00:48:51,031 --> 00:48:54,552 The chaotic effect of the invocation 927 00:48:54,586 --> 00:48:57,210 of the Endangered Species Act over something like that 928 00:48:57,244 --> 00:48:58,936 would be catastrophic. 929 00:48:58,970 --> 00:49:00,213 It'd be terrible. 930 00:49:00,247 --> 00:49:03,423 And so good governance and good management 931 00:49:03,457 --> 00:49:05,770 is to keep it as a legend. 932 00:49:09,808 --> 00:49:11,959 - There have been quite a few reports that I've gotten 933 00:49:11,983 --> 00:49:14,089 over the years of Bigfoot. 934 00:49:14,123 --> 00:49:17,299 I have gotten one, maybe two, in the last few years 935 00:49:17,333 --> 00:49:22,235 that I thought were worth taking a closer look at. 936 00:49:22,269 --> 00:49:26,584 I've heard of people thinking that, 937 00:49:26,618 --> 00:49:30,036 or mistaking bears for Sasquatch. 938 00:49:30,933 --> 00:49:33,246 I've never gotten any reports 939 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,420 of Bigfoot or Sasquatch 940 00:49:35,455 --> 00:49:37,698 in my professional career 941 00:49:37,733 --> 00:49:40,839 that I determined was actually a bear. 942 00:49:41,944 --> 00:49:43,532 And that has happened in other cases 943 00:49:43,566 --> 00:49:45,361 in other parts of the Pacific Northwest. 944 00:49:48,502 --> 00:49:51,471 - I've heard questions from many people out there, 945 00:49:51,505 --> 00:49:54,336 skeptics, about where are the bones? 946 00:49:54,370 --> 00:49:57,304 Where are the bodies? Why haven't we found one? 947 00:49:57,339 --> 00:50:00,031 My major's Forestry. I've got my degree in Forestry. 948 00:50:00,066 --> 00:50:02,309 If anybody knows anything about decomp, 949 00:50:02,344 --> 00:50:04,622 animals, ants, whatever, 950 00:50:04,656 --> 00:50:07,521 things decompose so quickly. 951 00:50:07,556 --> 00:50:10,835 Small animals they eat the bone for the calcium 952 00:50:10,869 --> 00:50:12,112 in the marrow. 953 00:50:12,147 --> 00:50:15,460 Okay, everything is consumed on an animal 954 00:50:15,495 --> 00:50:17,635 when it dies in the woods. 955 00:50:17,669 --> 00:50:21,363 Seven to 10 days every trace is gone. 956 00:50:21,397 --> 00:50:24,745 Every trace is gone of any kind of an animal. 957 00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:29,302 - So it just speaks to the unlikelihood 958 00:50:29,336 --> 00:50:32,477 of finding remains of animals 959 00:50:32,512 --> 00:50:33,754 out in nature. 960 00:50:33,789 --> 00:50:36,895 Nature has a way of recycling those resources 961 00:50:36,930 --> 00:50:40,485 in a very efficient and very prompt manner. 962 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,211 - Western culture wants a body. 963 00:50:42,246 --> 00:50:43,592 Biologists want a body. 964 00:50:43,626 --> 00:50:44,938 They want bones. 965 00:50:44,972 --> 00:50:46,388 They want a hair sample, 966 00:50:46,422 --> 00:50:51,393 all these sorts of physical hard evidences beyond tracks. 967 00:50:52,635 --> 00:50:55,707 I think personally what it'll take is contact. 968 00:50:56,743 --> 00:50:58,020 It'll take contact. 969 00:50:58,055 --> 00:50:59,573 It'll take someone who is willing 970 00:50:59,608 --> 00:51:03,681 to create a relationship with them 971 00:51:03,715 --> 00:51:06,235 and ask them to come forward. 972 00:51:06,270 --> 00:51:07,892 But I don't think that's going to happen. 973 00:51:07,926 --> 00:51:09,342 They hide for a reason. 974 00:51:09,376 --> 00:51:11,689 And not only do they hide for a reason, 975 00:51:11,723 --> 00:51:12,907 I'm on the fence about the fact 976 00:51:12,931 --> 00:51:14,450 that they only show themselves 977 00:51:14,485 --> 00:51:17,522 to people that they want to show themselves to. 978 00:51:17,557 --> 00:51:20,732 - Most of the time, if I get hair, 979 00:51:20,767 --> 00:51:24,495 it is usually hog hair, horse hair, deer, 980 00:51:24,529 --> 00:51:25,737 something of that nature. 981 00:51:25,772 --> 00:51:27,601 I personally have never received actual hair 982 00:51:27,636 --> 00:51:31,502 that could possibly be Bigfoot. 983 00:51:31,536 --> 00:51:34,401 Lot of footprints, hand prints. 984 00:51:34,436 --> 00:51:39,096 My favorite investigation was back in 2001 985 00:51:39,130 --> 00:51:40,925 at the water reclamation plant 986 00:51:40,959 --> 00:51:44,377 in the St. John's River Management Area. 987 00:51:44,411 --> 00:51:47,380 They had a lot of activity going on there. 988 00:51:47,414 --> 00:51:49,554 I went out there and investigations, 989 00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:53,593 as far as sightings, vocalizations. 990 00:51:54,939 --> 00:51:56,389 I had received a phone call saying, 991 00:51:56,423 --> 00:51:58,977 "Hey, we've got these hand prints on the window 992 00:51:59,012 --> 00:52:00,324 that happened when this thing 993 00:52:00,358 --> 00:52:02,774 was looking in the window one night." 994 00:52:02,809 --> 00:52:07,331 My pictures were the hand prints 995 00:52:07,365 --> 00:52:10,403 and in some cases you could actually see the hair 996 00:52:10,437 --> 00:52:12,888 where it pressed against the window. 997 00:52:12,922 --> 00:52:15,546 The hand print isn't the full hand. 998 00:52:15,580 --> 00:52:16,823 It was looking in the window. 999 00:52:16,857 --> 00:52:19,032 So it was kinda like had bent fingers, 1000 00:52:19,066 --> 00:52:21,172 but I got good palm and thumbs 1001 00:52:21,207 --> 00:52:23,726 and the tips of the fingers in some cases. 1002 00:52:23,761 --> 00:52:26,833 It wasn't just the, I mean, it was like he moved his hands, 1003 00:52:26,867 --> 00:52:28,559 okay, or he leaned against the window 1004 00:52:28,593 --> 00:52:31,044 so you could see the hair impressions on the window. 1005 00:52:32,183 --> 00:52:33,011 This is my favorite. 1006 00:52:33,046 --> 00:52:34,910 This is obviously skin 1007 00:52:34,944 --> 00:52:37,947 with hair impressions on it. 1008 00:52:37,982 --> 00:52:40,295 The hand prints and the imprints I received 1009 00:52:41,365 --> 00:52:42,849 a lot of oil in them. 1010 00:52:42,883 --> 00:52:47,785 This is Debbie who was my witness. 1011 00:52:47,819 --> 00:52:51,029 She's pointing way up here where the hand prints were. 1012 00:52:51,064 --> 00:52:53,446 And the hand prints 1013 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,036 were roughly eight feet 1014 00:52:58,071 --> 00:53:01,488 because it moved around and everything. 1015 00:53:01,523 --> 00:53:03,214 She worked graveyard. 1016 00:53:03,249 --> 00:53:05,354 She came in from the back warehouse 1017 00:53:05,389 --> 00:53:08,357 of the shop into the reception area 1018 00:53:08,392 --> 00:53:11,049 and there it was looking at the computer screen, 1019 00:53:11,084 --> 00:53:13,190 watching the Windows little logo thing, 1020 00:53:13,224 --> 00:53:14,812 going on it. 1021 00:53:14,846 --> 00:53:17,021 And then when she walked in and saw it 1022 00:53:17,055 --> 00:53:18,540 and it saw her movement, 1023 00:53:18,574 --> 00:53:20,714 then it kinda stood up and then took off. 1024 00:53:22,751 --> 00:53:24,442 - One of my principles that I work with 1025 00:53:24,477 --> 00:53:28,066 is a Hewkin-Sullivan principle 1026 00:53:28,101 --> 00:53:31,863 that you have to spend 200 hours feet on the ground 1027 00:53:31,898 --> 00:53:34,314 in a reasonably good area 1028 00:53:34,349 --> 00:53:38,732 to have an encounter of any kind or possibly a sighting. 1029 00:53:38,767 --> 00:53:42,357 Jim Hewkin was a State of Oregon biologist. 1030 00:53:42,391 --> 00:53:46,050 Jack Sullivan was a science teacher. 1031 00:53:46,084 --> 00:53:47,500 These guys knew their stuff 1032 00:53:47,534 --> 00:53:50,192 and they were very active from the late '60s 1033 00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:51,952 up through the early '90s. 1034 00:53:51,987 --> 00:53:53,368 One claimed 12 sightings, 1035 00:53:53,402 --> 00:53:55,162 the other one claimed 13. 1036 00:53:56,405 --> 00:53:59,339 But they all had the same characteristics of sightings. 1037 00:53:59,374 --> 00:54:02,342 They were very brief. They were very clear. 1038 00:54:02,377 --> 00:54:04,275 They knew exactly what they're seeing, 1039 00:54:04,310 --> 00:54:08,521 and they did not have time to raise their cameras up 1040 00:54:08,555 --> 00:54:10,833 or if they did get their camera up, 1041 00:54:10,868 --> 00:54:12,939 it was too dark to take a decent picture. 1042 00:54:14,147 --> 00:54:16,287 And they refused to engage in blobsquatch. 1043 00:54:17,564 --> 00:54:20,291 Blobsquatching is these goofy pictures 1044 00:54:20,326 --> 00:54:24,226 that people have of Bigfoot that are shadows 1045 00:54:24,261 --> 00:54:29,127 and branches waving and all kinds of stuff. 1046 00:54:29,162 --> 00:54:31,578 - We just got glimpses every once in a while 1047 00:54:31,613 --> 00:54:33,418 and people wanna know why we didn't get a picture. 1048 00:54:33,442 --> 00:54:35,731 That might be one of the questions that's gonna get asked. 1049 00:54:35,755 --> 00:54:37,722 And I get asked that all the time. 1050 00:54:37,757 --> 00:54:40,173 And we tried, we really tried to get picture, 1051 00:54:40,207 --> 00:54:42,382 but these things seemed outfox us. 1052 00:54:42,417 --> 00:54:44,039 We underestimated what they were, 1053 00:54:44,073 --> 00:54:46,800 underestimated them thoroughly. 1054 00:54:46,835 --> 00:54:48,595 They move inhumanly fast. 1055 00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:51,115 The one I saw was shooting down through the trees. 1056 00:54:51,149 --> 00:54:53,393 The two other ones that were making sounds out here, 1057 00:54:53,428 --> 00:54:56,431 we feel like it was an adolescent and a mother. 1058 00:54:56,465 --> 00:54:58,502 That's what we think, a family of three. 1059 00:55:03,783 --> 00:55:06,751 - This event that I'm gonna talk about now 1060 00:55:06,786 --> 00:55:09,478 has to do with a nest that I found 1061 00:55:09,513 --> 00:55:11,791 while I was at work with two other people. 1062 00:55:11,825 --> 00:55:14,794 And this looked just like a bird's nest. 1063 00:55:14,828 --> 00:55:18,832 It was on a hillside that was about 60 to 70%. 1064 00:55:19,833 --> 00:55:23,389 And what built this nest 1065 00:55:24,976 --> 00:55:27,358 had opposable thumbs. 1066 00:55:27,393 --> 00:55:29,636 But when animals make beds, 1067 00:55:29,671 --> 00:55:31,535 they slide everything out 1068 00:55:32,708 --> 00:55:34,365 to the bare soil. 1069 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,127 So you've got this mound of debris around it, 1070 00:55:38,162 --> 00:55:42,131 but you have a clear down to mineral soil. 1071 00:55:42,166 --> 00:55:43,340 But what I found here 1072 00:55:44,548 --> 00:55:47,620 was tree branches 1073 00:55:47,654 --> 00:55:50,519 that were woven together. 1074 00:55:50,554 --> 00:55:54,178 These branches were broken off tree, 1075 00:55:54,212 --> 00:55:57,388 two, three trees, whatever, in the area 1076 00:55:57,423 --> 00:56:01,219 and they used that as their building material 1077 00:56:01,254 --> 00:56:04,844 and everything was intertwined all the way around. 1078 00:56:07,053 --> 00:56:11,506 So I knew what built this had thumbs. 1079 00:56:11,540 --> 00:56:12,679 Coulda been a hunter. 1080 00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:20,411 I found hairs that were anywhere from an inch 1081 00:56:20,446 --> 00:56:22,033 to about two inches long. 1082 00:56:24,484 --> 00:56:27,729 These hairs had multicoloration to 'em. 1083 00:56:27,763 --> 00:56:30,663 They were light at the bottom and then it got brown, 1084 00:56:30,697 --> 00:56:34,391 blonde, and then there were a few that were dark. 1085 00:56:34,425 --> 00:56:36,185 So it was multicolored. 1086 00:56:37,394 --> 00:56:39,430 And I showed 'em to my partners 1087 00:56:39,465 --> 00:56:42,502 and they were just flabbergasted. 1088 00:56:42,537 --> 00:56:44,504 They were just out, it was out of this world 1089 00:56:44,539 --> 00:56:45,747 what we were looking at. 1090 00:56:47,576 --> 00:56:49,682 - In the Mt. Hood National Forest, 1091 00:56:49,716 --> 00:56:51,408 there are billions, 1092 00:56:51,442 --> 00:56:54,341 literally billions of broken branches. 1093 00:56:54,376 --> 00:56:56,585 They're caused by all kinds of stuff. 1094 00:56:56,620 --> 00:56:59,485 So occasionally you may find 1095 00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:02,073 a trunk or something of that nature 1096 00:57:02,108 --> 00:57:05,456 that's been twisted and braided by a Bigfoot, 1097 00:57:05,491 --> 00:57:08,010 probably as a territorial sign. 1098 00:57:41,941 --> 00:57:43,460 - There, right back in there. 1099 00:57:43,494 --> 00:57:44,494 - Oh yeah. 1100 00:57:47,084 --> 00:57:48,084 Whoa. 1101 00:57:49,224 --> 00:57:50,467 - We got some. 1102 00:57:52,538 --> 00:57:53,608 - That is whoa. 1103 00:58:13,317 --> 00:58:14,525 - So these were brought here. 1104 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,872 I mean, you can see how they're all placed. 1105 00:58:19,150 --> 00:58:20,497 This is incredible. 1106 00:58:26,503 --> 00:58:27,918 Here we go. Look at this. 1107 00:58:30,092 --> 00:58:31,162 It's due north. 1108 00:58:31,197 --> 00:58:32,197 - Yeah. 1109 00:58:35,615 --> 00:58:37,548 When people say they see tree structures, 1110 00:58:37,583 --> 00:58:40,551 they see symbols that mean something, 1111 00:58:40,586 --> 00:58:43,554 something that is made with hands and order. 1112 00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:45,694 It, I mean, it takes a lot more for me. 1113 00:58:45,729 --> 00:58:47,524 It takes this to say, 1114 00:58:49,008 --> 00:58:51,528 you know, there's nothing here that would cause 1115 00:58:51,562 --> 00:58:54,565 one, two, three, four, five, six logs 1116 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,394 all going the same direction 1117 00:58:56,429 --> 00:58:59,501 and then this fencing pattern. 1118 00:58:59,536 --> 00:59:00,536 - Uh huh. 1119 00:59:03,470 --> 00:59:04,655 - What if it was not due north? 1120 00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:07,647 What if it was slightly away from due north 1121 00:59:07,682 --> 00:59:09,407 to northwest, to northeast, 1122 00:59:09,442 --> 00:59:12,238 but it's exactly due north on the zero. 1123 00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:16,380 - It comes to a point like it is pointing to something. 1124 00:59:18,106 --> 00:59:19,497 You know, these have been brought here. 1125 00:59:19,521 --> 00:59:21,430 - Right? No, it's very obvious they've been brought. 1126 00:59:21,454 --> 00:59:22,731 Like this isn't pushed over. 1127 00:59:22,766 --> 00:59:24,053 I don't think this is pushed over. 1128 00:59:24,077 --> 00:59:25,423 No. 1129 00:59:25,458 --> 00:59:26,597 It's not, see. 1130 00:59:26,632 --> 00:59:28,126 - There's no root system here. - Yeah. 1131 00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:29,714 This is not pushed over. It's been placed. 1132 00:59:29,738 --> 00:59:31,751 So who knows what exists around this area? 1133 00:59:31,775 --> 00:59:33,190 I mean, it just, 1134 00:59:33,224 --> 00:59:34,374 it takes time. - And this one is actually 1135 00:59:34,398 --> 00:59:36,711 intricately interwoven with this one. 1136 00:59:36,745 --> 00:59:40,438 You have to like, you have to take steps to get to this. 1137 00:59:40,473 --> 00:59:43,165 - You know, you just kinda feel like something- 1138 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,246 - You can't help but feel like they could 1139 00:59:44,270 --> 00:59:45,029 - Thinks this is important. 1140 00:59:45,064 --> 00:59:46,410 - do this, yeah. 1141 00:59:46,444 --> 00:59:47,974 - Or they did think it was important to build this. 1142 00:59:47,998 --> 00:59:49,251 I don't think hunters built a blind here. 1143 00:59:49,275 --> 00:59:52,416 I don't think hunters would go through this. 1144 01:00:22,584 --> 01:00:24,448 Honestly, think 1145 01:00:24,482 --> 01:00:25,863 what we're dealing with 1146 01:00:25,898 --> 01:00:30,592 is a relic hominid of some sort. 1147 01:00:30,627 --> 01:00:34,631 We've had Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal, 1148 01:00:34,665 --> 01:00:38,462 slightly different subspecies, if you will, of hominid. 1149 01:00:39,428 --> 01:00:42,017 - Bigfoot is going to be part of our genus 1150 01:00:43,467 --> 01:00:46,159 and that's gonna, it's gonna scare some people, 1151 01:00:46,194 --> 01:00:47,471 it's gonna excite other people. 1152 01:00:47,505 --> 01:00:48,748 I'm gonna be excited. 1153 01:00:48,783 --> 01:00:50,450 And I don't think anybody can really predict 1154 01:00:50,474 --> 01:00:52,372 what's gonna happen. 1155 01:00:52,407 --> 01:00:53,788 It's gonna be a free-for-all. 1156 01:00:53,822 --> 01:00:56,791 It's gonna be... 1157 01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,725 a little unnerving probably. 1158 01:01:00,795 --> 01:01:01,979 - I didn't know what they were 1159 01:01:02,003 --> 01:01:03,798 when I first got into this. 1160 01:01:03,832 --> 01:01:06,524 I would read the books and they would say, 1161 01:01:08,078 --> 01:01:10,045 we all branched off from the same 1162 01:01:11,529 --> 01:01:12,772 and there's different branches 1163 01:01:12,807 --> 01:01:15,533 as the generations progress. 1164 01:01:17,190 --> 01:01:20,021 But to me, we're all the same. 1165 01:01:21,229 --> 01:01:25,992 And they're the purest human on this earth yet. 1166 01:01:27,131 --> 01:01:28,281 And what I mean by that 1167 01:01:28,305 --> 01:01:31,273 is that they're living the life 1168 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,586 as they were given it. 1169 01:01:34,829 --> 01:01:38,798 They are living as they have from the very beginning 1170 01:01:38,833 --> 01:01:42,733 so they are the purest form of human left on this earth. 1171 01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:48,705 - Their survival depends on us not knowing about them. 1172 01:01:50,465 --> 01:01:54,814 We bring disease, we bring violence, 1173 01:01:54,849 --> 01:01:57,541 we bring lack of understanding, 1174 01:01:57,575 --> 01:02:00,026 we bring lack of compassion. 1175 01:02:00,061 --> 01:02:01,821 And then I'm on the fence about, 1176 01:02:01,856 --> 01:02:03,167 can we actually hurt them? 1177 01:02:03,202 --> 01:02:06,412 I don't think we can hurt them per se. 1178 01:02:06,446 --> 01:02:09,001 But I do think we can destroy their environment. 1179 01:02:10,450 --> 01:02:13,039 We're destroying our own environment, let alone theirs. 1180 01:02:17,768 --> 01:02:22,014 - Frankly, I feel their discovery is inevitable. 1181 01:02:23,463 --> 01:02:25,534 There's no question, as a living being, 1182 01:02:25,569 --> 01:02:27,226 they're also a dying being, 1183 01:02:28,227 --> 01:02:31,437 and whether they die by age 1184 01:02:31,471 --> 01:02:35,130 or disease or injury, 1185 01:02:35,165 --> 01:02:37,201 they're gonna die one time and another. 1186 01:02:37,236 --> 01:02:40,032 And I think it's inevitable, extremely rare, 1187 01:02:40,066 --> 01:02:42,551 but inevitable, we will find a body. 1188 01:02:43,483 --> 01:02:46,245 As difficult a is to find a living Bigfoot, 1189 01:02:47,349 --> 01:02:49,455 somewhere out there 1190 01:02:49,489 --> 01:02:51,560 there's a body. 1191 01:02:51,595 --> 01:02:54,805 - I know a lot of people think it comes down 1192 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:59,810 to the spotted owl situation we had back in the '90s. 1193 01:03:01,087 --> 01:03:04,988 So if there's this undiscovered primate 1194 01:03:05,782 --> 01:03:07,059 living in the woods now 1195 01:03:07,093 --> 01:03:09,268 and okay, now they say, yeah, it's here. 1196 01:03:09,302 --> 01:03:13,617 Well, how much land do we have to set aside for him? 1197 01:03:13,651 --> 01:03:16,482 So does that affect logging? 1198 01:03:16,516 --> 01:03:19,071 Is that gonna affect recreational areas? 1199 01:03:19,105 --> 01:03:21,798 Is that gonna affect hunting grounds? 1200 01:03:21,832 --> 01:03:25,042 What's the grand scheme that it's gonna affect? 1201 01:03:25,077 --> 01:03:28,494 It very well could be a coverup. It very well could be. 1202 01:03:28,528 --> 01:03:31,497 - I think they know more than we do. 1203 01:03:31,531 --> 01:03:33,913 I don't think they wanna put money into it. 1204 01:03:33,948 --> 01:03:35,363 As far as they're concerned 1205 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,436 it's something out there and it's not going to, 1206 01:03:39,470 --> 01:03:41,541 as long as they don't show it attention, 1207 01:03:41,576 --> 01:03:44,303 it's not gonna affect the economic portion 1208 01:03:44,337 --> 01:03:47,685 of government and states and cities 1209 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,171 because that's their main concern, 1210 01:03:50,205 --> 01:03:51,482 not as much science. 1211 01:03:51,517 --> 01:03:54,382 It's how it's going to affect the economy 1212 01:03:54,416 --> 01:03:55,877 of their particular area. 1213 01:03:57,972 --> 01:04:01,492 - Let's say that Bigfoot was discovered in the state 1214 01:04:01,527 --> 01:04:03,115 and what was determined 1215 01:04:03,149 --> 01:04:05,531 is that there's an existing population of them here 1216 01:04:05,565 --> 01:04:09,604 and that the animal is an indigenous animal in Oregon. 1217 01:04:09,638 --> 01:04:13,608 In that case, jurisdiction for management of the animal 1218 01:04:13,642 --> 01:04:16,991 would fall with Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife. 1219 01:04:17,025 --> 01:04:22,030 The animal would be listed under the Protected Animals List 1220 01:04:23,204 --> 01:04:25,413 through the Oregon administrative rules. 1221 01:04:25,447 --> 01:04:29,348 It's possible that some other agency or some other entity, 1222 01:04:29,382 --> 01:04:31,488 or maybe an individual 1223 01:04:31,522 --> 01:04:34,422 could petition with the US Fish and Wildlife Service 1224 01:04:34,456 --> 01:04:36,838 for that animal to be included 1225 01:04:36,873 --> 01:04:39,427 in the Federal Endangered Species List, 1226 01:04:39,461 --> 01:04:42,568 in which case significant amount of protections 1227 01:04:42,602 --> 01:04:44,363 would be afforded the animal. 1228 01:04:45,467 --> 01:04:47,193 - If there's an undocumented humanoid 1229 01:04:47,228 --> 01:04:48,401 living in North America, 1230 01:04:48,436 --> 01:04:51,266 and obviously with the thousands of encounters 1231 01:04:51,301 --> 01:04:53,234 that's occurred since pre-history, 1232 01:04:53,268 --> 01:04:55,339 that's well established that there is, 1233 01:04:55,374 --> 01:04:58,515 I mean, it means that they would dedicate 1234 01:04:58,549 --> 01:05:01,449 and exhaust all available resources to find out 1235 01:05:01,483 --> 01:05:02,736 as much information 1236 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:07,489 as possible about that undocumented humanoid. 1237 01:05:08,974 --> 01:05:10,744 It's by definition a threat to national security. 1238 01:05:10,768 --> 01:05:13,944 They would use all resources and exhaust all of them 1239 01:05:13,979 --> 01:05:16,567 to find out everything they possibly could about it. 1240 01:05:16,602 --> 01:05:19,087 I have no doubt whatsoever that they've done that. 1241 01:05:19,122 --> 01:05:21,262 I can tell you that no Bigfoot researcher 1242 01:05:22,435 --> 01:05:25,542 that I know of has been contacted by a government agent 1243 01:05:25,576 --> 01:05:27,751 that wanted to know the information that they had 1244 01:05:27,785 --> 01:05:29,373 or what they knew. 1245 01:05:29,408 --> 01:05:31,789 Which tells me that the information that they already have 1246 01:05:31,824 --> 01:05:34,344 is much greater than anything that we know. 1247 01:05:38,865 --> 01:05:40,764 I do know that the US government 1248 01:05:40,798 --> 01:05:43,456 has knowledge of the Sasquatch. 1249 01:05:43,491 --> 01:05:46,287 I ended up becoming an intelligence officer 1250 01:05:46,321 --> 01:05:47,944 in the United States Army 1251 01:05:47,978 --> 01:05:51,257 and I worked specifically with the 2nd Ranger. 1252 01:05:52,362 --> 01:05:56,193 I do know for fact that the 2nd Ranger 1253 01:05:56,228 --> 01:06:00,715 had on many occasions had to take out a few Sasquatch 1254 01:06:00,749 --> 01:06:02,268 just for public safety. 1255 01:06:02,303 --> 01:06:05,133 Sometimes people aren't paying attention 1256 01:06:05,168 --> 01:06:07,308 to what the forest is telling them. 1257 01:06:07,342 --> 01:06:10,380 I personally didn't go out in the field with them 1258 01:06:10,414 --> 01:06:12,347 but I saw the after action review reports 1259 01:06:13,521 --> 01:06:15,419 and I do know just from the ones that I saw 1260 01:06:15,454 --> 01:06:17,352 there were four taken, 1261 01:06:18,871 --> 01:06:20,435 and they were also taken to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base 1262 01:06:20,459 --> 01:06:22,150 for the autopsy. 1263 01:06:23,496 --> 01:06:25,474 I don't think it's really a national security thing. 1264 01:06:25,498 --> 01:06:27,362 I think it's more of a financial thing. 1265 01:06:28,950 --> 01:06:33,299 I think they're worried about the financial impact 1266 01:06:33,334 --> 01:06:36,785 of these things could have to small communities 1267 01:06:36,820 --> 01:06:37,820 around the country. 1268 01:06:45,311 --> 01:06:47,462 - It was the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life 1269 01:06:47,486 --> 01:06:48,842 and most frightening thing 1270 01:06:48,866 --> 01:06:50,906 I've ever experienced in my life all in one bundle. 1271 01:06:53,388 --> 01:06:55,470 I can't seem to keep my eyes out of the trees when I'm here. 1272 01:06:55,494 --> 01:06:58,221 I just wanna see it again so bad I can't handle it. 1273 01:06:59,532 --> 01:07:02,156 Trying to tell the story and put it in perspective 1274 01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:06,056 for someone to understand is, it's really hard to do. 1275 01:07:06,091 --> 01:07:09,508 It's just something that I wish everyone 1276 01:07:09,542 --> 01:07:12,338 that wanted to see Bigfoot or was curious 1277 01:07:12,373 --> 01:07:13,615 could see it for themselves. 1278 01:07:13,650 --> 01:07:17,171 - That's why I think opening up our story 1279 01:07:17,205 --> 01:07:20,553 that we have had would be able to express that 1280 01:07:21,865 --> 01:07:25,558 what people may think that's not something that's real, 1281 01:07:25,593 --> 01:07:27,112 might be able to be like, okay, 1282 01:07:27,146 --> 01:07:28,837 I can actually ease my mind a little bit 1283 01:07:28,872 --> 01:07:31,012 and be like what I saw was real. 1284 01:07:32,634 --> 01:07:34,257 - The way it pulled its little one, 1285 01:07:34,291 --> 01:07:35,879 it's young behind it with its arm. 1286 01:07:37,536 --> 01:07:39,410 - In a protective fashion. - In a protective fashion, 1287 01:07:39,434 --> 01:07:41,574 was just, it was crazy. 1288 01:07:41,609 --> 01:07:43,197 I, my first thing I thought was like, 1289 01:07:43,231 --> 01:07:45,233 this thing's protecting something 1290 01:07:45,268 --> 01:07:48,719 and it's not, I mean, I can't even put in words, 1291 01:07:48,754 --> 01:07:50,411 it was so unreal. 1292 01:07:51,550 --> 01:07:53,034 - There's nothing out there 1293 01:07:53,069 --> 01:07:55,588 that I have experienced out in the wilderness 1294 01:07:55,623 --> 01:07:58,074 that can move and have 1295 01:07:58,108 --> 01:08:02,940 the parental effects 1296 01:08:02,975 --> 01:08:04,735 that they had towards its own. 1297 01:08:04,770 --> 01:08:06,220 - Protecting its young like a human, 1298 01:08:06,254 --> 01:08:07,714 like I would, like pull my daughter behind me 1299 01:08:07,738 --> 01:08:09,775 in a bad situation, you know. 1300 01:08:12,502 --> 01:08:14,228 It was like a dark cinnamon. 1301 01:08:14,262 --> 01:08:15,998 Yeah, it was definitely, it was not black. 1302 01:08:16,022 --> 01:08:18,059 It was not what I've heard people. 1303 01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:20,613 It was not what you hear every day from people, 1304 01:08:20,648 --> 01:08:24,030 like this thing was cinnamon colored. 1305 01:08:24,065 --> 01:08:26,136 It had every feature that you would see, 1306 01:08:26,171 --> 01:08:28,552 like if you went to a zoo and saw a gorilla. 1307 01:08:28,587 --> 01:08:30,313 - The arm length was basically double 1308 01:08:30,347 --> 01:08:32,142 of what our arm length was. 1309 01:08:32,177 --> 01:08:33,350 - Yeah, it was too its knees, 1310 01:08:33,385 --> 01:08:34,985 below its knees almost. - Easily, easily. 1311 01:08:36,181 --> 01:08:39,563 Once they seen us and once we kinda locked eyes 1312 01:08:39,598 --> 01:08:43,291 for that what seemed to be an eternity, 1313 01:08:43,326 --> 01:08:45,328 they moved off the logs and they kinda hid 1314 01:08:45,362 --> 01:08:47,364 along the tree line there. 1315 01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:49,401 - You could see through the trees, 1316 01:08:49,435 --> 01:08:50,678 you could see that thing moving 1317 01:08:50,712 --> 01:08:52,818 but once it got behind the trees, 1318 01:08:52,852 --> 01:08:54,095 there was nothing. 1319 01:08:54,130 --> 01:08:55,855 It was like it just disappeared in thin air. 1320 01:08:57,512 --> 01:09:01,102 - It almost was in the feeling that it, 1321 01:09:01,137 --> 01:09:02,448 they wanted us to see it. 1322 01:09:02,483 --> 01:09:04,140 - Yeah. 1323 01:09:04,174 --> 01:09:06,521 - Like if I think that if we did have the equipment, 1324 01:09:06,556 --> 01:09:08,558 the cameras, anything like that- 1325 01:09:08,592 --> 01:09:09,811 - We wouldn't have seen it. 1326 01:09:09,835 --> 01:09:11,250 - Not at all. 1327 01:09:11,285 --> 01:09:12,572 We wouldn't have- - I think if we would've had 1328 01:09:12,596 --> 01:09:14,022 our cameras rolling, we wouldn't have seen. 1329 01:09:14,046 --> 01:09:16,669 - They would've never, never allowed us to. 1330 01:09:16,704 --> 01:09:17,957 - Chad and Austin were gonna come out here 1331 01:09:17,981 --> 01:09:20,328 and film a survival YouTube video 1332 01:09:20,363 --> 01:09:23,331 and it was gonna be like a 24-hour overnight thing 1333 01:09:23,366 --> 01:09:25,851 and they didn't want me to come pick 'em up. 1334 01:09:25,885 --> 01:09:27,991 They wanted to do it all on their own. 1335 01:09:28,025 --> 01:09:30,683 And when they went to go call me at midnight, 1336 01:09:30,718 --> 01:09:32,306 first I was upset 1337 01:09:32,340 --> 01:09:34,722 and I said, "No, I'm not gonna come and pick you guys up." 1338 01:09:34,756 --> 01:09:36,862 And hung up, they called back. 1339 01:09:36,896 --> 01:09:39,140 And when I met them down at the bottom of the road, 1340 01:09:39,175 --> 01:09:40,531 I could just see it in Chad's eyes 1341 01:09:40,555 --> 01:09:42,454 and in the 12 years we've been together, 1342 01:09:42,488 --> 01:09:44,387 I've never seen him that scared. 1343 01:09:47,769 --> 01:09:50,427 I definitely am a strong believer in Bigfoot now. 1344 01:09:50,462 --> 01:09:53,327 And it's something that I know Chad and Austin 1345 01:09:53,361 --> 01:09:55,708 will never forget as well as myself. 1346 01:10:07,513 --> 01:10:09,895 - There are many aspects to what you would consider 1347 01:10:09,929 --> 01:10:12,104 quote, a Sasquatch experience. 1348 01:10:12,138 --> 01:10:13,278 One of them 1349 01:10:13,312 --> 01:10:14,669 is unbelievable fear. 1350 01:10:14,693 --> 01:10:16,867 When you talk to somebody who's had an experience, 1351 01:10:16,902 --> 01:10:20,492 most often they're gonna tell you they have this fear 1352 01:10:20,526 --> 01:10:23,495 that is just, they can't even describe it. 1353 01:10:23,529 --> 01:10:27,430 Another is out of context emotions. 1354 01:10:27,464 --> 01:10:30,018 We don't have a mental construct for these kinds of beings 1355 01:10:30,053 --> 01:10:31,399 'cause we're not taught this. 1356 01:10:31,434 --> 01:10:32,780 So we're not open to it. 1357 01:10:32,814 --> 01:10:36,197 We're only told what exists and what does not exist. 1358 01:10:36,232 --> 01:10:38,475 So our belief system is such a way 1359 01:10:38,510 --> 01:10:42,721 that if something comes in to our context and leaves, 1360 01:10:42,755 --> 01:10:45,896 then we don't a mental construct for it. 1361 01:10:45,931 --> 01:10:48,589 A lot of people cannot handle 1362 01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:53,145 that psychologically, mentally, or emotionally 1363 01:10:53,179 --> 01:10:56,148 because it challenges everything that they've been taught. 1364 01:10:59,772 --> 01:11:03,362 - Making eye contact with something that doesn't exist, 1365 01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:06,917 it's... 1366 01:11:09,782 --> 01:11:11,543 You just don't know what to think. 1367 01:11:11,577 --> 01:11:13,407 I mean, I didn't know what to do. 1368 01:11:13,441 --> 01:11:15,340 I didn't know who to go talk to 1369 01:11:15,374 --> 01:11:20,206 because, you know, I don't wanna be the crazy one. 1370 01:11:26,178 --> 01:11:28,560 I talk to grown men who will stand there and cry 1371 01:11:28,594 --> 01:11:30,078 over what they've seen. 1372 01:11:30,113 --> 01:11:32,149 They won't go back in the woods to hunt. 1373 01:11:33,599 --> 01:11:35,325 There was one gentleman who was a foreman 1374 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:39,087 for a construction crew and he wouldn't go back to work 1375 01:11:39,122 --> 01:11:41,435 for a few days because of what he saw. 1376 01:11:41,469 --> 01:11:43,402 And his wife said he never missed a day of work 1377 01:11:43,437 --> 01:11:44,852 in his life before that. 1378 01:11:44,886 --> 01:11:46,612 He knows what black bears look like. 1379 01:11:46,647 --> 01:11:48,476 He knows what's in the forest. 1380 01:11:48,511 --> 01:11:51,997 And he says he saw a Bigfoot and he saw it up close. 1381 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,560 - I start to feel like betrayal I guess I would say 1382 01:12:03,595 --> 01:12:05,976 because I start to think about the fact 1383 01:12:06,011 --> 01:12:08,945 that I'm a trained professional, a trained observer. 1384 01:12:08,979 --> 01:12:10,129 I just happened to see something 1385 01:12:10,153 --> 01:12:11,430 that's not supposed to be real 1386 01:12:11,465 --> 01:12:14,882 and my whole world is in disarray at this moment 1387 01:12:14,916 --> 01:12:16,677 because I'm driving away from this thing, 1388 01:12:16,711 --> 01:12:19,473 having to deal with a realization 1389 01:12:19,507 --> 01:12:22,096 on something that isn't supposed to be real 1390 01:12:22,130 --> 01:12:24,443 that I just happened to have an encounter with, 1391 01:12:24,478 --> 01:12:25,478 real as day. 1392 01:12:27,515 --> 01:12:29,690 Like how come I just had to see this thing 1393 01:12:29,724 --> 01:12:31,968 and I'm never told about it before? 1394 01:12:32,002 --> 01:12:33,452 Only as a fairy tale. 1395 01:12:33,487 --> 01:12:36,248 I never believed in him or anything like that. 1396 01:12:38,077 --> 01:12:39,838 - My name is Dr. Michael Adamse and I'm 1397 01:12:39,872 --> 01:12:41,426 a clinical psychologist. 1398 01:12:41,460 --> 01:12:43,540 I trained conservatively at the University of Miami, 1399 01:12:43,566 --> 01:12:45,775 Yale University School of Medicine. 1400 01:12:45,809 --> 01:12:48,950 I served in the Army Reserve in the Medical Corp, 1401 01:12:48,985 --> 01:12:51,505 and finally, primarily in my private practice, 1402 01:12:51,539 --> 01:12:53,507 and to this date, probably 1403 01:12:53,541 --> 01:12:56,751 over 90,000 direct clinical patient hours. 1404 01:12:59,340 --> 01:13:00,893 We all have psychological defenses. 1405 01:13:00,928 --> 01:13:02,412 They allow us to go through the world 1406 01:13:02,447 --> 01:13:04,172 and navigate our experiences. 1407 01:13:04,207 --> 01:13:05,553 So everybody has them. 1408 01:13:05,588 --> 01:13:08,245 Anybody who has normal interactions in the world 1409 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,006 has to have psychological defenses. 1410 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,422 They're not either good or bad, they just are. 1411 01:13:12,457 --> 01:13:14,424 So when we talk about rationalization, 1412 01:13:14,459 --> 01:13:17,427 that's where we take an event that's happened in our life 1413 01:13:17,462 --> 01:13:19,049 and we just rationalize it. 1414 01:13:19,084 --> 01:13:20,993 For example, we see something strange out in the woods 1415 01:13:21,017 --> 01:13:25,401 and we go, no, it can't be that, it must be this. 1416 01:13:25,435 --> 01:13:28,404 And they discard their original impression 1417 01:13:28,438 --> 01:13:29,612 and rationalize it. 1418 01:13:29,646 --> 01:13:31,890 No, I couldn't have seen what I just saw, right? 1419 01:13:31,924 --> 01:13:33,995 So there's rationalization. 1420 01:13:34,030 --> 01:13:36,895 And then there's suppression and repression. 1421 01:13:36,929 --> 01:13:39,138 Suppression is a conscious act 1422 01:13:39,173 --> 01:13:40,726 where I just saw something, 1423 01:13:40,761 --> 01:13:43,488 I experienced something, but it's disturbing to me 1424 01:13:43,522 --> 01:13:46,387 so I am not gonna talk to other people about it 1425 01:13:46,422 --> 01:13:48,538 and I'm not gonna even maybe admit it much to myself. 1426 01:13:48,562 --> 01:13:51,254 I don't wanna relive what I just experienced. 1427 01:13:51,288 --> 01:13:52,369 Repression, on the other hand, 1428 01:13:52,393 --> 01:13:54,360 is an unconscious process 1429 01:13:54,395 --> 01:13:56,570 where we push it so deeply down 1430 01:13:56,604 --> 01:13:57,743 where we're not aware of it, 1431 01:13:57,778 --> 01:13:59,055 we don't even think about it. 1432 01:13:59,089 --> 01:14:01,264 So you may have a subset of people out there 1433 01:14:01,298 --> 01:14:04,129 who experienced Bigfoot, Sasquatch if you will, 1434 01:14:04,163 --> 01:14:08,202 who really don't remember the experience in some cases, 1435 01:14:08,236 --> 01:14:09,962 or remember it and push it down. 1436 01:14:09,997 --> 01:14:12,482 So there could be a subset of people out there again 1437 01:14:12,517 --> 01:14:13,725 who have seen this 1438 01:14:13,759 --> 01:14:15,381 but you would never know about it 1439 01:14:15,416 --> 01:14:17,970 because their defenses kicked in and protected them. 1440 01:14:21,767 --> 01:14:23,493 - If someone's seen Bigfoot 1441 01:14:23,528 --> 01:14:26,427 and they want to recall more information, 1442 01:14:26,462 --> 01:14:29,810 absolutely hypnosis gives us that tool. 1443 01:14:31,812 --> 01:14:35,505 A lot of things happen when we have a traumatic experience 1444 01:14:35,540 --> 01:14:38,266 or we have an emotional experience. 1445 01:14:40,510 --> 01:14:42,616 Our mind is recording all of this stuff 1446 01:14:42,650 --> 01:14:45,135 and it happens rapidly. 1447 01:14:45,170 --> 01:14:46,412 So if we can 1448 01:14:46,447 --> 01:14:49,588 slow it down using hypnosis, 1449 01:14:49,623 --> 01:14:52,522 we can say, okay, what happened? 1450 01:14:52,557 --> 01:14:55,767 Stop that, freeze frame it, zoom in. 1451 01:14:55,801 --> 01:14:57,354 We can do all those things. 1452 01:14:57,389 --> 01:14:59,367 The unconscious mind can really do all those things. 1453 01:14:59,391 --> 01:15:02,359 So yes, we can get a lot more details. 1454 01:15:02,394 --> 01:15:04,465 And if it's traumatic or emotional, 1455 01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:06,640 there's a bunch of information. 1456 01:15:08,193 --> 01:15:12,784 We have different minds that have different functions. 1457 01:15:12,818 --> 01:15:13,923 There's the conscious mind. 1458 01:15:13,957 --> 01:15:15,994 It's what we call volatile. 1459 01:15:16,028 --> 01:15:18,134 It's the one that says, oh, I've got an appointment, 1460 01:15:18,168 --> 01:15:19,584 I need to be there. 1461 01:15:19,618 --> 01:15:22,828 Or is this something that I should be watching or doing? 1462 01:15:22,863 --> 01:15:25,935 It's that questioning part of us? 1463 01:15:25,969 --> 01:15:28,696 It's also the part that says let's go have fun. 1464 01:15:28,731 --> 01:15:31,527 95% of your perceptions and your behaviors 1465 01:15:31,561 --> 01:15:34,495 are controlled by your unconscious mind. 1466 01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:37,118 So everything that's going on, 1467 01:15:37,153 --> 01:15:38,361 every moment of day, 1468 01:15:38,395 --> 01:15:40,743 your unconscious mind is recording. 1469 01:15:41,675 --> 01:15:44,367 And it is literally filing it. 1470 01:15:44,401 --> 01:15:45,851 When we go to sleep, 1471 01:15:45,886 --> 01:15:49,337 the stuff that has value gets shuffled to long-term memory. 1472 01:15:49,372 --> 01:15:51,892 If it had an emotional component to it 1473 01:15:51,926 --> 01:15:53,790 or a traumatic component to it, 1474 01:15:53,825 --> 01:15:55,689 it gets shuffled deliberately 1475 01:15:55,723 --> 01:16:00,383 into long-term because we need to know 1476 01:16:00,417 --> 01:16:01,591 that it has value. 1477 01:16:01,626 --> 01:16:06,078 If that experience was traumatic, created fear, 1478 01:16:06,113 --> 01:16:07,390 we need to know about it 1479 01:16:07,424 --> 01:16:09,772 so that if it happens again, we're prepared. 1480 01:16:12,844 --> 01:16:14,190 Oh, there he goes. 1481 01:16:16,537 --> 01:16:19,540 - You see an event that is possibly even traumatic, 1482 01:16:19,575 --> 01:16:21,369 but we see a profound event, 1483 01:16:21,404 --> 01:16:24,165 what we're likely to do is take a still frame 1484 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,443 and a moving shot of that experience 1485 01:16:26,478 --> 01:16:28,514 and we're going to archive that in our brains. 1486 01:16:28,549 --> 01:16:31,379 And it gets seared in the sense that it is permanent, 1487 01:16:31,414 --> 01:16:34,106 it's a permanent image because it's so profound for us 1488 01:16:34,141 --> 01:16:35,763 and it's so out of the box for us. 1489 01:16:35,798 --> 01:16:37,454 So we put it in our minds, 1490 01:16:37,489 --> 01:16:40,665 we park it there and we will keep that seared, if you will, 1491 01:16:40,699 --> 01:16:42,598 in our memories for the rest of our lives. 1492 01:16:42,632 --> 01:16:45,601 - I really obsessed on it for like 30 days, 1493 01:16:45,635 --> 01:16:47,430 30 or, few months almost 1494 01:16:47,464 --> 01:16:49,881 I was like looking for answers, you know what I mean? 1495 01:16:49,915 --> 01:16:53,505 And finally, I just with my kids, 1496 01:16:53,539 --> 01:16:55,921 I just got distracted in life and my wife and stuff, 1497 01:16:55,956 --> 01:16:58,337 it just kinda slipped away and I kinda just, 1498 01:16:59,649 --> 01:17:01,178 anytime we'd go out for or a trip in the mountains 1499 01:17:01,202 --> 01:17:02,973 or down fishing by the river, it would pop right back up 1500 01:17:02,997 --> 01:17:04,309 in my mind. 1501 01:17:04,343 --> 01:17:05,562 I would look down the river or something like this 1502 01:17:05,586 --> 01:17:07,484 and I'd just see a flashback 1503 01:17:07,519 --> 01:17:10,108 of almost picturing something standing down there. 1504 01:17:11,557 --> 01:17:14,457 It could really put somebody in a bad state of mind 1505 01:17:14,491 --> 01:17:17,460 if they were to experience what I experienced. 1506 01:17:17,494 --> 01:17:19,462 It can be very traumatizing. 1507 01:17:19,496 --> 01:17:22,120 - Like Chad said, me and him talk to each other 1508 01:17:22,154 --> 01:17:25,744 when we get into those moments, you know, like it- 1509 01:17:25,779 --> 01:17:27,677 - Yeah, 11, 12 o'clock at night. 1510 01:17:27,712 --> 01:17:28,574 - It don't matterwhat time is, 1511 01:17:28,609 --> 01:17:30,231 Just ring the phone, you know? 1512 01:17:30,266 --> 01:17:31,819 - 'Cause it almost made you feel 1513 01:17:31,854 --> 01:17:34,132 like you were gonna go insane. 1514 01:17:34,166 --> 01:17:35,374 It'll never leave you. 1515 01:17:35,409 --> 01:17:36,962 You will always have that with you. 1516 01:17:36,997 --> 01:17:38,964 You will always remember that moment. 1517 01:17:40,759 --> 01:17:42,658 - One of my biggest takeaways 1518 01:17:42,692 --> 01:17:45,453 from starting the Bigfoot Mapping Project 1519 01:17:45,488 --> 01:17:50,320 is how many people have had experiences 1520 01:17:50,355 --> 01:17:53,116 that because of places 1521 01:17:53,151 --> 01:17:56,982 where they couldn't access somewhere to report 1522 01:17:57,017 --> 01:17:58,121 or somebody to talk to, 1523 01:17:58,156 --> 01:18:00,227 or they didn't feel comfortable, 1524 01:18:01,366 --> 01:18:02,263 now they have it. 1525 01:18:02,298 --> 01:18:03,782 So the biggest takeaway would be 1526 01:18:03,817 --> 01:18:06,371 that it's a big anthropological movement. 1527 01:18:06,405 --> 01:18:08,097 It's just not just about Bigfoot. 1528 01:18:08,131 --> 01:18:10,547 It's about the impact it's had on the culture. 1529 01:18:10,582 --> 01:18:11,790 And you can take that away 1530 01:18:11,825 --> 01:18:14,482 from the stories people have to tell. 1531 01:18:15,552 --> 01:18:17,934 When I set out starting the project, 1532 01:18:17,969 --> 01:18:22,318 I did not expect to get such emotional 1533 01:18:22,352 --> 01:18:25,735 and impactful reports. 1534 01:18:25,770 --> 01:18:27,806 I expected people to be pretty dry. 1535 01:18:28,945 --> 01:18:31,948 - I will say that a good percentage of them, 1536 01:18:31,983 --> 01:18:34,019 there's a level of underlying fear 1537 01:18:34,054 --> 01:18:36,090 because they don't know what this is. 1538 01:18:36,125 --> 01:18:38,506 It's making noise, it's moving past them, 1539 01:18:38,541 --> 01:18:41,475 or they see it and it's moving away. 1540 01:18:41,509 --> 01:18:44,271 It's not something that our unconscious mind 1541 01:18:44,305 --> 01:18:47,653 or our conscious mind is really set to register. 1542 01:18:47,688 --> 01:18:50,415 So they can start out a bit fearful. 1543 01:18:51,968 --> 01:18:54,039 They can start out with a little bit of hesitation. 1544 01:18:54,074 --> 01:18:58,009 I have had people go from that to awe 1545 01:18:58,043 --> 01:19:01,288 that, oh my gosh, this is an incredible creature 1546 01:19:01,322 --> 01:19:03,704 that it's amazing. 1547 01:19:03,739 --> 01:19:07,397 I had one client talk about how muscular it was 1548 01:19:07,432 --> 01:19:08,951 and how broad its shoulders were 1549 01:19:08,985 --> 01:19:10,918 and how it's like just was in awe 1550 01:19:10,953 --> 01:19:14,404 of this incredibly majestic creature. 1551 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,269 I had another client that I worked with 1552 01:19:17,304 --> 01:19:21,204 who actually began to cry. 1553 01:19:21,239 --> 01:19:24,518 And I said, "What's happening now?" 1554 01:19:24,552 --> 01:19:27,728 And his response was so beautiful. 1555 01:19:27,763 --> 01:19:32,215 He says, "I realize that I will never see these again." 1556 01:19:35,667 --> 01:19:36,667 That was powerful. 1557 01:19:42,847 --> 01:19:44,572 - I don't entertain a lot of motives 1558 01:19:44,607 --> 01:19:46,954 when it comes to the skeptic, 'cause they're impure. 1559 01:19:46,989 --> 01:19:49,405 I mean, if people really wanna know something 1560 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,477 and they're skeptical because they doubt, that's natural. 1561 01:19:52,511 --> 01:19:54,065 I can deal with that. 1562 01:19:54,099 --> 01:19:56,619 But if people want to mock and they want 1563 01:19:56,653 --> 01:20:00,036 to have their punchline and to say, 1564 01:20:00,071 --> 01:20:02,245 "Oh, you didn't do your homework, you're lazy." 1565 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,455 Well, they don't know what I know 1566 01:20:05,490 --> 01:20:06,836 and that's good enough for me. 1567 01:20:06,871 --> 01:20:10,046 I know what I know and it's made me a better person. 1568 01:20:10,081 --> 01:20:11,599 This isn't everybody's journey. 1569 01:20:11,634 --> 01:20:14,464 Not everybody's supposed to take the red pill. 1570 01:20:14,499 --> 01:20:17,674 And you have to let those people go. 1571 01:20:17,709 --> 01:20:20,436 You can't force this message down their throat. 1572 01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:22,265 And sometimes they're skeptics, 1573 01:20:22,300 --> 01:20:24,233 but sometimes they're A-holes. 1574 01:20:25,855 --> 01:20:27,788 - If you want to ignore the thousands of reports 1575 01:20:27,823 --> 01:20:30,515 that are out there, you can do that. 1576 01:20:30,549 --> 01:20:32,482 But does that mean everybody's lying, 1577 01:20:32,517 --> 01:20:33,276 everybody's screwed up? 1578 01:20:33,311 --> 01:20:34,553 What does that mean 1579 01:20:34,588 --> 01:20:35,876 about all these people that are saying this 1580 01:20:35,900 --> 01:20:37,463 all over the world, and all over the United States? 1581 01:20:37,487 --> 01:20:39,524 All of the Pacific Northwest now people are saying 1582 01:20:39,558 --> 01:20:40,663 they see these things. 1583 01:20:43,045 --> 01:20:45,737 Open up your minds because they're out there. 1584 01:20:45,771 --> 01:20:47,912 - As you start utilizing the data 1585 01:20:47,946 --> 01:20:50,742 and you start seeing the data tell the story, 1586 01:20:50,776 --> 01:20:54,021 the whole story unfolds right before your eyes. 1587 01:20:54,056 --> 01:20:57,300 And it just becomes evident. This is real. 1588 01:20:57,335 --> 01:20:59,475 They can't all be making it up. 1589 01:20:59,509 --> 01:21:00,797 The data elements like who did you tell? 1590 01:21:00,821 --> 01:21:02,409 How long did you go 1591 01:21:02,443 --> 01:21:05,274 before you actually shared that encounter? 1592 01:21:05,308 --> 01:21:07,724 Many people go many, many years. Why? 1593 01:21:07,759 --> 01:21:11,314 If they saw something and they felt like it had to be shared 1594 01:21:11,349 --> 01:21:14,386 and they were hoaxing, why would they wait 15 to 20 years 1595 01:21:14,421 --> 01:21:16,319 or not even tell their spouse? 1596 01:21:16,354 --> 01:21:19,322 But now you're able to pull that information out of 'em 1597 01:21:19,357 --> 01:21:21,946 and you see that direct correlation 1598 01:21:21,980 --> 01:21:24,051 between something that happened in Maine 1599 01:21:24,086 --> 01:21:26,709 all the way something that happened in Southeast Texas. 1600 01:21:26,743 --> 01:21:30,540 And that to me is why the data is gonna tell the truth 1601 01:21:30,575 --> 01:21:32,059 every single time. 1602 01:21:32,094 --> 01:21:33,416 - People like to control their world 1603 01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:35,235 or their perception of the world. 1604 01:21:35,269 --> 01:21:36,822 So something that's outside the range 1605 01:21:36,857 --> 01:21:39,687 of their perception or experience, 1606 01:21:39,722 --> 01:21:43,208 some people will reject and sometimes in a militant manner 1607 01:21:43,243 --> 01:21:45,935 and sometimes they'll degrade somebody or demean somebody 1608 01:21:45,970 --> 01:21:47,972 who's had that experience. 1609 01:21:48,006 --> 01:21:50,629 And I'll tell you what underlies the denial, fear. 1610 01:21:51,630 --> 01:21:53,149 Fear. 1611 01:21:53,184 --> 01:21:54,782 They're fearful of something they can't identify, 1612 01:21:54,806 --> 01:21:56,566 understand, or control. 1613 01:21:56,601 --> 01:21:58,534 A person who's too rigid, 1614 01:21:58,568 --> 01:22:01,261 too rigid in their worldview, is crazy 1615 01:22:01,295 --> 01:22:04,540 because they can only see the world through one finite lens. 1616 01:22:04,574 --> 01:22:06,956 We call those people sometimes psychotic 1617 01:22:06,991 --> 01:22:09,890 because they've lost touch with reality. 1618 01:22:09,925 --> 01:22:13,480 They only see world in one simple finite way. 1619 01:22:13,514 --> 01:22:16,414 Emotional wellbeing, mental health 1620 01:22:16,448 --> 01:22:19,796 is strongly associated with flexibility, 1621 01:22:19,831 --> 01:22:22,799 the ability to think outside the box, 1622 01:22:22,834 --> 01:22:25,457 to experience different people, different events, 1623 01:22:25,492 --> 01:22:28,771 different circumstances with not such a critical eye, 1624 01:22:28,805 --> 01:22:30,014 but an open eye. 1625 01:22:30,048 --> 01:22:31,567 Those are mentally healthy people 1626 01:22:31,601 --> 01:22:34,915 because they see things as possible. 1627 01:22:39,092 --> 01:22:41,611 - I'm not out to prove he's there. 1628 01:22:41,646 --> 01:22:44,442 I know he is there and that's good enough for me. 1629 01:22:44,476 --> 01:22:47,686 You're never gonna convince everybody in the world 1630 01:22:47,721 --> 01:22:51,587 until there's one laying there on a table 1631 01:22:51,621 --> 01:22:55,108 or, you know, one caught. 1632 01:22:56,316 --> 01:22:57,569 I'm definitely not gonna be the one 1633 01:22:57,593 --> 01:22:58,904 to put one on a table 1634 01:22:58,939 --> 01:23:00,227 and I'm definitely not gonna be the one 1635 01:23:00,251 --> 01:23:01,942 to try and catch one. 1636 01:23:01,977 --> 01:23:03,323 And to be honest, 1637 01:23:03,357 --> 01:23:06,015 even if I get a picture, 1638 01:23:06,050 --> 01:23:07,534 and I know there's pictures out there 1639 01:23:07,568 --> 01:23:10,986 'cause I've seen 'em of actual Bigfoot, 1640 01:23:11,020 --> 01:23:12,159 why share it? 1641 01:23:12,194 --> 01:23:14,990 'Cause somebody's gonna say, oh it's fake. 1642 01:23:15,024 --> 01:23:17,854 It's makeup. It's this, it's a mask. 1643 01:23:17,889 --> 01:23:22,066 Even if I had absolute proof, 100% proof, 1644 01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:24,344 I don't think I'd share it. 1645 01:23:24,378 --> 01:23:27,519 - Bigfoot is a great example of something, once again, 1646 01:23:27,554 --> 01:23:28,703 that people can't categorize. 1647 01:23:28,727 --> 01:23:30,764 So who are the people out there saying 1648 01:23:30,798 --> 01:23:32,110 let's investigate this? 1649 01:23:32,145 --> 01:23:33,663 Let's take a closer look at this. 1650 01:23:33,698 --> 01:23:35,458 Let's see if there's some science behind it, 1651 01:23:35,493 --> 01:23:37,495 some explanation behind it. 1652 01:23:37,529 --> 01:23:40,636 If you're in the mainstream in terms of science 1653 01:23:40,670 --> 01:23:42,155 or a professional, if you will, 1654 01:23:42,189 --> 01:23:44,985 you're taking a risk because you're willing to say 1655 01:23:45,020 --> 01:23:46,745 I'm going to pursue this 1656 01:23:46,780 --> 01:23:49,196 and I'm not gonna really pay attention to naysayers. 1657 01:23:49,231 --> 01:23:50,956 I'm not gonna be put down by them. 1658 01:23:50,991 --> 01:23:53,614 And those people are truly pioneers. 1659 01:23:53,649 --> 01:23:55,375 And that's been true throughout history 1660 01:23:55,409 --> 01:23:57,515 whether it's religion, politics, 1661 01:23:57,549 --> 01:24:00,518 medicine, science, whatever human endeavor, 1662 01:24:00,552 --> 01:24:02,313 people take risks and chances. 1663 01:24:02,347 --> 01:24:04,108 And one of the risks and chances they take 1664 01:24:04,142 --> 01:24:06,213 is that people may think they're foolish. 1665 01:24:06,248 --> 01:24:07,628 So people who are willing to say, 1666 01:24:07,663 --> 01:24:09,975 yes, I'm going to get ridiculed for this, 1667 01:24:10,010 --> 01:24:11,632 but I'm going for it anyway, 1668 01:24:11,667 --> 01:24:13,841 those are truly pioneers. 1669 01:24:13,876 --> 01:24:16,913 They're transformational people who are willing to say, 1670 01:24:16,948 --> 01:24:17,914 let's take a shot at this. 1671 01:24:17,949 --> 01:24:19,502 Let's see what's out there. 1672 01:24:19,537 --> 01:24:22,678 And that's the kind of person that we should celebrate. 1673 01:24:48,842 --> 01:24:53,433 - 10 years ago I was diagnosed with melanoma cancer. 1674 01:24:53,467 --> 01:24:55,607 Me and God, we're good buddies 1675 01:24:55,642 --> 01:24:59,370 and I asked for help 1676 01:24:59,404 --> 01:25:00,681 and he sent me people 1677 01:25:00,716 --> 01:25:03,063 to tell me what to do. 1678 01:25:03,098 --> 01:25:07,895 And so I went to have a melanoma cancer removed 1679 01:25:07,930 --> 01:25:09,380 off the top of my head 1680 01:25:11,485 --> 01:25:12,935 but they didn't get it all 1681 01:25:12,969 --> 01:25:17,146 and I was eventually diagnosed with terminal cancer 1682 01:25:17,181 --> 01:25:19,148 and that was a death sentence. 1683 01:25:20,425 --> 01:25:22,047 Now, fast forward. 1684 01:25:22,082 --> 01:25:24,636 I'm going to St. Mary's, Alaska, 1685 01:25:24,671 --> 01:25:27,570 with my wife to see my grandchildren 1686 01:25:27,605 --> 01:25:30,435 and my daughter, Rachel, and son-in-law, 1687 01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:32,506 possibly for the last time, 1688 01:25:35,199 --> 01:25:36,752 The day that I saw the Bigfoot, 1689 01:25:36,786 --> 01:25:39,237 we get into the boat and we're motoring 1690 01:25:39,272 --> 01:25:43,310 up the Andreafsky River, which flows into the Yukon. 1691 01:25:43,345 --> 01:25:45,381 We fished all morning, caught nothing. 1692 01:25:45,416 --> 01:25:49,282 So we found a sandbar and unloaded the kids. 1693 01:25:49,316 --> 01:25:51,767 And then I said, "Let's go after steelhead." 1694 01:25:51,801 --> 01:25:54,528 I had a steelhead on earlier that day 1695 01:25:54,563 --> 01:25:57,428 and so my son-in-law and I alone jumped in. 1696 01:25:57,462 --> 01:26:02,295 We went down river and he pointed up the hill 1697 01:26:02,329 --> 01:26:03,641 and he says, "What is that?" 1698 01:26:03,675 --> 01:26:06,230 He whispered, "What is that?" 1699 01:26:07,783 --> 01:26:10,786 And I said, "That's a big old brown bear." 1700 01:26:10,820 --> 01:26:12,477 "No, what is that?" 1701 01:26:15,135 --> 01:26:16,861 Then it stood up. 1702 01:26:16,895 --> 01:26:18,380 And when he stood up, 1703 01:26:18,414 --> 01:26:22,038 he took two great big steps and squatted back down 1704 01:26:22,073 --> 01:26:23,661 and started eating. 1705 01:26:23,695 --> 01:26:26,388 In my mind as a nonbeliever, 1706 01:26:26,422 --> 01:26:29,356 I'm thinking, a bear can't do that. 1707 01:26:32,048 --> 01:26:34,085 He finally passed me the binoculars 1708 01:26:34,119 --> 01:26:35,293 and when I looked, 1709 01:26:36,984 --> 01:26:41,989 I saw fingers this long with the thumb way back here. 1710 01:26:44,302 --> 01:26:46,097 And I thought, a bear? 1711 01:26:47,754 --> 01:26:50,757 That's a Bigfoot! 1712 01:26:50,791 --> 01:26:53,000 And I was just stunned. 1713 01:26:53,035 --> 01:26:54,899 And so I handed him the binoculars 1714 01:26:54,933 --> 01:26:56,659 and then I hear this. 1715 01:26:56,694 --> 01:27:00,732 "Oh." 1716 01:27:00,767 --> 01:27:02,217 Now we're both believers. 1717 01:27:04,115 --> 01:27:07,222 And the big guy, that big, beautiful creature, 1718 01:27:07,256 --> 01:27:10,915 stood up and turned 1719 01:27:10,949 --> 01:27:12,227 and looked straight at me. 1720 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,507 I cannot tell you what that did to me. 1721 01:27:16,541 --> 01:27:18,923 I saw gorilla wrinkles right here. 1722 01:27:18,957 --> 01:27:22,098 I saw a nose twice as wide as mine. 1723 01:27:22,133 --> 01:27:24,515 I saw a bare face, 1724 01:27:24,549 --> 01:27:28,726 a bald forehead with a raised eyebrow ridge right here. 1725 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:29,899 No eyebrows. 1726 01:27:31,142 --> 01:27:34,214 The hair started right on kinda right up here 1727 01:27:34,249 --> 01:27:36,216 on the, towards the top of his head 1728 01:27:36,251 --> 01:27:38,080 and went all the way to his ankles. 1729 01:27:38,114 --> 01:27:39,437 The hair started, 1730 01:27:39,461 --> 01:27:41,842 I think, at his knuckles 1731 01:27:41,877 --> 01:27:43,396 and went all the way down. 1732 01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:46,226 I couldn't see hair on the fingers. 1733 01:27:46,261 --> 01:27:49,402 His shoulders were about this wide 1734 01:27:49,436 --> 01:27:53,233 and his body was, oh, so muscular. 1735 01:27:53,268 --> 01:27:55,062 So incredible. 1736 01:27:55,097 --> 01:27:56,719 Not much of a neck. 1737 01:27:56,754 --> 01:27:58,238 We could see it from the front, 1738 01:27:58,273 --> 01:28:01,414 but from the side and the back, you couldn't see it at all. 1739 01:28:03,899 --> 01:28:08,283 His head was about twice as wide as mine. 1740 01:28:08,317 --> 01:28:10,250 The eyes were up a little higher 1741 01:28:10,285 --> 01:28:12,597 than normal human eyes 1742 01:28:12,632 --> 01:28:16,256 and they were either solid black or solid black and brown. 1743 01:28:16,291 --> 01:28:18,223 I'm not sure which. 1744 01:28:18,258 --> 01:28:21,330 And he just looked at us. 1745 01:28:21,365 --> 01:28:22,814 You know, our eyes just locked. 1746 01:28:22,849 --> 01:28:26,162 And I just, my jaw hit the bottom of the boat. 1747 01:28:27,785 --> 01:28:29,442 His stare was... 1748 01:28:31,202 --> 01:28:32,445 His stare, wow. 1749 01:28:34,101 --> 01:28:35,827 Well, after about 10 seconds, 1750 01:28:35,862 --> 01:28:39,279 he turned and knelt and laid down, 1751 01:28:39,314 --> 01:28:42,282 and then we're trading the binoculars back and forth 1752 01:28:42,317 --> 01:28:45,665 and I'm wanting to see him again so bad my teeth hurt. 1753 01:28:52,188 --> 01:28:54,259 If you look out here in the field, there's cows 1754 01:28:54,294 --> 01:28:58,022 and I was a cow milker and I sang to the cows. 1755 01:28:58,056 --> 01:29:00,369 I taught my kids to sing to the cows. 1756 01:29:00,404 --> 01:29:02,440 And so I started singing to this Bigfoot. 1757 01:29:07,687 --> 01:29:09,861 Got through the verse once 1758 01:29:09,896 --> 01:29:11,242 and he didn't stand up 1759 01:29:11,276 --> 01:29:12,968 so I thought maybe he can't hear me. 1760 01:29:13,002 --> 01:29:15,384 So I'm raising my voice slowly 1761 01:29:15,419 --> 01:29:17,386 as I go into the second verse. 1762 01:29:17,421 --> 01:29:19,354 And I finally got right to... 1763 01:29:23,081 --> 01:29:26,361 And he stood up! I was elated. 1764 01:29:27,362 --> 01:29:30,572 Eventually, after about 10 minutes, 1765 01:29:30,606 --> 01:29:34,161 we watched him walk up that tundra hillside. 1766 01:29:36,267 --> 01:29:38,338 Great big, giant steps. 1767 01:29:38,373 --> 01:29:41,686 He walked up that mountain faster than I could run down. 1768 01:29:41,721 --> 01:29:45,380 It was my son-in-law said, "Look at that! 1769 01:29:45,414 --> 01:29:48,279 No human can walk on the tundra like that." 1770 01:29:49,349 --> 01:29:50,730 And he went over the hill 1771 01:29:50,764 --> 01:29:53,042 and the last thing we saw was his, 1772 01:29:53,077 --> 01:29:56,011 the top of his head going down the other side of the hill. 1773 01:29:58,876 --> 01:30:00,371 We finally turned around 1774 01:30:00,395 --> 01:30:02,397 and went back to the boat. 1775 01:30:04,053 --> 01:30:06,677 Most solemn experience of my life, 1776 01:30:07,471 --> 01:30:09,300 going down that river. 1777 01:30:09,334 --> 01:30:10,853 Me and God were talking. 1778 01:30:11,751 --> 01:30:12,890 "Thank you, God. 1779 01:30:14,857 --> 01:30:16,411 I'm diagnosed to die, 1780 01:30:16,445 --> 01:30:20,207 thank you for letting me see such an incredible thing 1781 01:30:20,242 --> 01:30:21,795 and to experience this 1782 01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:25,247 in the last time of my life." 1783 01:30:32,634 --> 01:30:33,428 - Of course, that was 1784 01:30:33,462 --> 01:30:34,463 10 years ago. 1785 01:30:37,086 --> 01:30:39,572 I am God's miracle. 1786 01:30:42,195 --> 01:30:43,897 - I have to come back here to Vernal, Utah, 1787 01:30:43,921 --> 01:30:45,405 and so I knew that the only time 1788 01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:48,304 I would be able to talk to anybody about a Bigfoot 1789 01:30:48,339 --> 01:30:50,168 was at the airport. 1790 01:30:50,203 --> 01:30:54,069 I walk in, there's about 30, 35 people there. 1791 01:30:54,103 --> 01:30:57,590 "I've seen a Bigfoot. Have any of you?" 1792 01:30:57,624 --> 01:30:59,626 I wanted answers. 1793 01:30:59,661 --> 01:31:03,423 I wanted knowledge and I got five stories. 1794 01:31:04,631 --> 01:31:07,807 I'm diagnosed to die. I might as well let it go. 1795 01:31:07,841 --> 01:31:09,602 Tell people. It's true. 1796 01:31:11,673 --> 01:31:14,089 I became an interviewer 1797 01:31:14,123 --> 01:31:18,645 and I have hundreds of Bigfoot stories, 1798 01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:19,680 500 or 600. 1799 01:31:22,511 --> 01:31:24,306 When he was walking away, 1800 01:31:25,169 --> 01:31:26,481 I called out to him, 1801 01:31:26,515 --> 01:31:30,001 "You are the most beautiful creature in the world. 1802 01:31:30,036 --> 01:31:31,796 Please don't go." 1803 01:31:31,831 --> 01:31:33,108 He looked more human. 1804 01:31:33,142 --> 01:31:34,592 I was hoping he could understand me 1805 01:31:34,627 --> 01:31:38,423 but he never turned to look back, not once. 1806 01:31:39,494 --> 01:31:42,393 My purpose in sharing this story with you 1807 01:31:42,427 --> 01:31:46,570 is to bless those who have not been able 1808 01:31:46,604 --> 01:31:49,676 to share their story and have been mocked 1809 01:31:49,711 --> 01:31:51,713 and ridiculed and belittled. 140405

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