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[ Bird caws ]
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JOE: Even though it's been
so many years,
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it's almost like it happened
yesterday.
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There's something up the tree.
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[ Creature growling ]
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"There's something
in the woods, Mom."
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It was like an evil presence
was there.
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Okay, now we're being stalked.
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I've heard stories
over the years,
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we all have,
of things in the woods,
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but I never dreamed
that that would happen to us.
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[ Gunshot ]
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I couldn't really see just how
massive the animal actually was.
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It closed the distance
between us within seconds.
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It could've reached out
and grabbed me by my hair.
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You can't freeze.
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You cannot freeze in a moment
like that
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because you freeze, you die.
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[ Creature growling ]
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In 1994, we basically wanted
to leave the city
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and raise our kids
in the country,
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and we bought some land
in the foothills
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of the Appalachian Mountains
out in Adams County.
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We just kind of walked
the property
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and found a place
to build a house,
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leveled it off and started.
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Four years later,
it was done.
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Joe is my son.
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He was around 11,
right around 11, and his cousin,
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Keith, same age.
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Where should I put this?
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SUZANNE:
Ever since we bought the land,
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his cousin would come out from
Cincinnati and stay with us.
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Oh, okay.
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Him and I have really
just been very close
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since I was very young,
and he would come out weekends,
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you know, building treehouses
and exploring,
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and that was my right-hand man.
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That day, the kids wanted to go
work on their treehouse.
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-Hey, Joe.
-Yeah?
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Oh, thanks.
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Now, don't leave my tools
down there.
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Yeah, I know.
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You have to go up a long,
long driveway
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to a pretty heavily
wooded valley.
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I mean, it's thick, beautiful,
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and there's nobody around.
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Very secluded.
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The woods are so heavy,
and on a cloudy day,
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it can almost seem dark.
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-Hey, Joe, slow down.
-We're almost there!
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SUZANNE: You have to understand
where we built our house.
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It was in the foothills
of the Appalachian Mountains.
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It was just very remote.
There was no neighbors around.
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I mean, there were,
but you couldn't see anybody,
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something I'm not used to
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because I was raised
in the city.
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[ Birds calling ]
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But the kids always wanted
to be in those woods and play.
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There it is.
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The tree stand had been there
for many years.
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It was just something
that was old, fallen down.
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What was this for?
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Hunting deer.
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-That's so rickety.
-Yeah.
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We just got the idea
one day that, you know,
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"Let's see if we can repair
this thing,
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"kind of restore
and bring it back to life.
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It would be somewhere cool
to kind of hang out."
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Hey, Joe,
hand me the binoculars.
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[ Creature growling ]
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-What is it?
-Shh.
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We have some animals
that were in the same area --
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the mountain lions, the bear,
you know, that we've seen out
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there and heard,
and it's nothing abnormal.
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You just respect,
you know, they respect us.
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We respect them,
and you go about your way.
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-Okay.
-Can I have the hammer?
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We were having a great time,
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and we had our material
and our tools with us.
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We were just really excited
to get things moving on this.
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I'm grabbing some lumber
off the truck,
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and I had made a little pile
closer to the tree stand.
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Keith was up in the tree stand,
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going over some measurements
and stuff that he needed,
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and I remember looking up
to him to talk to him.
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The squawking of
the chicken hawks
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and the commotion
caught my eye.
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To be that close and making
that much noise is
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what really caught my attention
because it was abnormal to me,
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and they were circling
and squawking.
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They're going crazy.
What for?
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I don't know, but there's, uh,
there's something up the tree.
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[ Creature growling ]
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I saw a large figure,
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three quarters
of the way up the tree.
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Even from being on the ground
and that far away from the tree,
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looking up, I mean,
it was huge.
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It was just massive.
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It looked like it was
700 pounds, 8 to 10 feet tall.
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[ Creature growling ]
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Fear, I think, was the first
thing that hit me.
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We've seen mountain lions
and bears,
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and nothing ever
looked anything like that.
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There's something up there.
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I didn't notice it climbing up
or how long it had been there
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or what it was even doing.
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I mean, it knew we were there.
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It's -- it's looking
right at us.
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[ Howling ]
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We needed to get out
of there fast.
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-Let's go!
-Yeah.
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We jump out of the treehouse,
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and as we were running
as fast as we could,
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you could hear whatever it was
had jumped out of the tree.
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[ Leaves rustle ]
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It was so heavy, so dense.
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The vibration when it hit,
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I could feel it through my feet
as I was running.
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Come on, Keith! Hurry up!
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You know, a lot of fear
came over both of us
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because we had never experienced
or seen anything like that,
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and it really shook us.
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[ Creature growling ]
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We wanted to get to the house,
you know, to tell Mom
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because it wasn't really
far away, but at that time,
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it seemed like
it took forever to get there.
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[ Creature growling ]
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JOE: Come on, Keith!
Hurry up!
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We had never experienced
or seen anything like that.
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[ Howling ]
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We ran inside the house,
you know, to get my mom.
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Mom!
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SUZANNE: Keith was crying.
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Joe was freaking out, saying,
"There's something in the woods.
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It was chasing us."
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There was this thing
in the tree --
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No, no, no,
this was not a bear.
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SUZANNE:
They were scared to death.
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They really were.
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Keith was screaming,
"I want to go home, Aunt Sue!
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I just want to go home,"
and I was freaking out.
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I didn't understand
why they were --
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I didn't know
what had happened.
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Keith said
when the ground shook,
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he turned around
and looked at it,
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and it was chasing them.
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I said, "Keith, sit down while
it's fresh in your mind.
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Draw a picture
of what you saw."
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It looked like a monkey.
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He said it had red eyes,
you know, like, big teeth.
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It almost looked evil,
like a devil,
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I guess you would say, just very
dark, very scary-looking.
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We ended up giving it
the name Devil Monkey
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because it looked so evil,
like a devil.
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SUZANNE: I knew
they'd seen something
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because they were so scared.
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I don't want to say
I didn't believe them
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because I knew
something happened to them.
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[ Bird calls ]
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My husband had a tendency
to think they either made it up
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or they were just
exaggerating something
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because he likes
to explain things,
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and he didn't believe it.
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So where was it?
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Up -- up there.
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Okay.
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Go get the tools.
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My dad, just really
a working man,
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and he had other things
on his mind other than something
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that had
just scared us in the woods.
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[ Low growling ]
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Come on, boys.
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You can get the lumber later.
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We never went back to pick up
the lumber and stuff
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that we had had
on the ground, nothing.
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We never went back to it.
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Because of what happened,
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Keith never came out
to the woods anymore.
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[ Chuckles ] I hear you,
Ron, but he's just a kid.
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He just lets his imagination
run away, you know?
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I agree, probably a bear.
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Listen, just ignore Joe.
He just spooks easy.
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Mm-hmm. Yeah.
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JOE: At first,
I was anxious to tell
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people my story and what I saw,
and I'd get made fun of,
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"Hey, man, tell them
about the Devil Monkey,"
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and then everybody
would start laughing.
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It's like, "You know what?
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I don't have a desire
to tell anybody anymore,"
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because nobody was on board
or believed me.
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I just decided that was
the past,
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and I swept it under the rug
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and tried to erase it
out of my memory.
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After we had purchased that
piece of land where Joe told us
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he had seen this animal
jump out of the tree,
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my husband leveled
that piece off and built a barn,
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and we got a horse.
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Ah, you're a greedy girl.
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She was our very first horse.
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We loved her.
Her name was Rose.
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[ Laughs ]
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We would go to the barns
twice a day to feed.
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Anybody that has horses know
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they know
when they're gonna get fed,
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and they always run
to the barns.
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Go find some grass.
I'll see you in the morning.
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♪♪
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We loved that horse.
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♪♪
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[ Animal snuffling ]
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[ Horse blusters ]
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[ Horse whinnies ]
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪
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[ Horse blusters ]
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[ Horse whinnies ]
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♪♪
264
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SUZANNE: The next morning,
we went down to feed the horse.
265
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Hey, Rose. What's wrong?
266
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She had these big claw marks
on her hindquarters,
267
00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,550
and there was, like, three,
like, on each side,
268
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all the way
from the top down.
269
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[ Horse whinnies ]
270
00:14:28,827 --> 00:14:32,277
Hey, Mom, get over here!
271
00:14:32,275 --> 00:14:33,615
Oh, my God.
272
00:14:33,620 --> 00:14:35,480
And it wasn't dead,
but it was, like, in shock.
273
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♪♪
274
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Something attacked that horse
in the woods.
275
00:14:44,379 --> 00:14:45,859
Those are deep.
She needs the vet.
276
00:14:45,862 --> 00:14:47,722
Jesus, get over here!
277
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JOE: It almost seemed like
something
278
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had grabbed ahold of it
because it was
279
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on the hind of the horse.
280
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Maybe it was running,
and it had grabbed
281
00:14:52,724 --> 00:14:54,144
ahold of it
to try to catch it, maybe.
282
00:14:54,137 --> 00:14:56,997
We weren't really sure.
283
00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,100
Horses are very large.
284
00:14:58,103 --> 00:14:59,723
It was 1,000 pounds or better,
285
00:14:59,724 --> 00:15:01,834
so something that could
even consider
286
00:15:01,827 --> 00:15:03,307
taking on that size
of an animal
287
00:15:03,310 --> 00:15:06,000
had to have a lot
of confidence itself.
288
00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,520
Not knowing what it could've
been as the day went on,
289
00:15:08,517 --> 00:15:10,237
I started to put
two and two together.
290
00:15:10,241 --> 00:15:12,101
Could this have something
to do with what, you know,
291
00:15:12,103 --> 00:15:16,553
what we experienced a year
or two prior to that?
292
00:15:16,551 --> 00:15:20,031
Mom, what if it was
that thing we saw?
293
00:15:20,034 --> 00:15:23,594
The stable that we had built
was probably about 50 foot
294
00:15:23,586 --> 00:15:28,826
from the treehouse
that Joe had been working on.
295
00:15:28,827 --> 00:15:32,167
I realized whatever is
in the woods attacking my horse
296
00:15:32,172 --> 00:15:37,412
were the same thing that chased
Joe and Keith out of the woods.
297
00:15:37,413 --> 00:15:40,073
The Devil Monkey.
298
00:15:40,068 --> 00:15:43,338
My husband is very calm.
299
00:15:43,344 --> 00:15:45,594
Everything has got some kind
of a logical explanation
300
00:15:45,586 --> 00:15:47,476
behind everything.
301
00:15:47,482 --> 00:15:50,592
He doesn't believe
302
00:15:50,586 --> 00:15:52,476
that kind of stuff.
303
00:15:52,482 --> 00:15:54,482
It's probably plenty of animals
could do this.
304
00:15:54,482 --> 00:15:55,972
I'll call the vet.
305
00:15:55,965 --> 00:15:58,655
SUZANNE: When the vet came out,
you know, he saw the horse.
306
00:15:58,655 --> 00:16:00,965
He saw the marks.
307
00:16:00,965 --> 00:16:04,685
He said no, he'd never seen
that before, never seen that.
308
00:16:04,689 --> 00:16:07,589
♪♪
309
00:16:07,586 --> 00:16:08,786
And we were thinking
to ourselves,
310
00:16:08,793 --> 00:16:10,413
"What kind of animal
could even consider
311
00:16:10,413 --> 00:16:12,593
taking on, you know,
a horse like that?"
312
00:16:12,586 --> 00:16:14,206
Coyotes, dogs,
they're very small,
313
00:16:14,206 --> 00:16:16,206
and they usually shy away
from larger animals,
314
00:16:16,206 --> 00:16:19,406
including our dogs.
315
00:16:19,413 --> 00:16:21,213
Something jumped on this horse.
316
00:16:21,206 --> 00:16:24,826
I just don't know -- I mean,
we don't know what it was,
317
00:16:24,827 --> 00:16:27,377
but something jumped on
the horse and attacked it.
318
00:16:27,379 --> 00:16:34,589
♪♪
319
00:16:34,586 --> 00:16:37,336
JOE: So that afternoon, we had
walked the fence line,
320
00:16:37,344 --> 00:16:39,594
and we gathered
some hair samples
321
00:16:39,586 --> 00:16:41,826
and sent it off to a lab.
322
00:16:41,827 --> 00:16:43,547
Don't worry, Joe.
323
00:16:43,551 --> 00:16:46,901
These tests are gonna
tell us what's been here.
324
00:16:46,896 --> 00:16:48,856
At that point, you almost feel
like something
325
00:16:48,862 --> 00:16:50,242
is messing with you,
you know what I mean?
326
00:16:50,241 --> 00:16:53,791
Like, whatever this creature is,
is it trying to bother us?
327
00:16:53,793 --> 00:16:56,523
Is it trying to scare us away?
328
00:16:56,517 --> 00:16:57,997
Why now?
You know what I mean?
329
00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,830
I don't know. It was weird.
330
00:16:59,827 --> 00:17:06,617
♪♪
331
00:17:06,619 --> 00:17:07,999
We had sent off
the hair samples.
332
00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,280
Some of them came back --
cattle, horses, which we knew
333
00:17:11,275 --> 00:17:13,065
because that's what
was in the area,
334
00:17:13,068 --> 00:17:14,928
and then some of them
came back inconclusive,
335
00:17:14,931 --> 00:17:16,451
and they could not give us
an answer what it was
336
00:17:16,448 --> 00:17:19,448
because it was not
in their database.
337
00:17:19,448 --> 00:17:22,098
No one had ever found
a hair like it before,
338
00:17:22,103 --> 00:17:25,213
so they couldn't
compare it to anything.
339
00:17:25,205 --> 00:17:26,275
Where's your father?
340
00:17:26,275 --> 00:17:29,585
In the house.
341
00:17:29,586 --> 00:17:31,786
-Jesus.
-Hi.
342
00:17:31,793 --> 00:17:33,343
I was just talking to Andre.
343
00:17:33,344 --> 00:17:35,664
He's just been attacked
by something up on the ridge.
344
00:17:35,655 --> 00:17:37,095
-What?
-Yeah.
345
00:17:37,103 --> 00:17:39,283
Our neighbor, Andre,
he has some hunting land
346
00:17:39,275 --> 00:17:41,715
up above where our property is.
347
00:17:41,724 --> 00:17:44,694
♪♪
348
00:17:44,689 --> 00:17:46,139
He had a camper there.
349
00:17:46,137 --> 00:17:47,517
It was an older camper,
and that's the reason
350
00:17:47,517 --> 00:17:52,237
why he was in his vehicle.
351
00:17:52,241 --> 00:17:55,451
Andre told us that when
he was sleeping in his Jeep
352
00:17:55,448 --> 00:17:56,548
up on top of the ridge,
353
00:17:56,551 --> 00:17:59,551
something jumped
on top of his Jeep.
354
00:17:59,551 --> 00:18:02,341
♪♪
355
00:18:02,344 --> 00:18:05,764
It woke him up and the sound
of slamming on top of his hood
356
00:18:05,758 --> 00:18:07,238
and shook his vehicle.
357
00:18:07,241 --> 00:18:09,311
He said it was a big,
gigantic animal
358
00:18:09,310 --> 00:18:14,170
and was staring at him
in the windshield,
359
00:18:14,172 --> 00:18:17,792
and he was scared to death,
360
00:18:17,793 --> 00:18:22,763
and he said that it looked
like a big monkey.
361
00:18:22,758 --> 00:18:24,858
What he described to me
was something similar,
362
00:18:24,862 --> 00:18:28,382
very heavy, very hairy, dark,
363
00:18:28,379 --> 00:18:32,239
the creature that I encountered
a couple years ago.
364
00:18:32,241 --> 00:18:33,931
SUZANNE: He was afraid
and he said,
365
00:18:33,931 --> 00:18:37,621
"I will never
stay up here again."
366
00:18:37,620 --> 00:18:40,140
I know that he saw something.
367
00:18:40,137 --> 00:18:43,757
I know something did jump
on his vehicle.
368
00:18:43,758 --> 00:18:45,828
I believe him.
369
00:18:45,827 --> 00:18:51,407
♪♪
370
00:18:51,413 --> 00:18:57,313
I had the feeling that we had
invaded its territory.
371
00:18:57,310 --> 00:19:02,380
I think it was living there
because no one
372
00:19:02,379 --> 00:19:05,169
had ever developed
any of that land
373
00:19:05,172 --> 00:19:07,102
all the years
it'd been there until we came.
374
00:19:07,103 --> 00:19:11,833
♪♪
375
00:19:11,827 --> 00:19:14,547
[ Creature growling ]
376
00:19:14,551 --> 00:19:16,451
I was just afraid.
377
00:19:16,448 --> 00:19:19,278
I was afraid because I didn't
know what it was.
378
00:19:19,275 --> 00:19:23,275
I was afraid because it had
chased my kids,
379
00:19:23,275 --> 00:19:26,065
attacked my horse,
380
00:19:26,068 --> 00:19:29,308
so I decided to see
if I could contact somebody
381
00:19:29,310 --> 00:19:34,550
that could come out
and tell me what could be there.
382
00:19:34,551 --> 00:19:37,211
My mom was at a library,
383
00:19:37,206 --> 00:19:40,336
and there was some Bigfoot
research investigators there
384
00:19:40,344 --> 00:19:43,144
doing, like, a presentation,
385
00:19:43,137 --> 00:19:45,827
and my mom tells them
the experience
386
00:19:45,827 --> 00:19:47,827
that we had with a creature.
387
00:19:47,827 --> 00:19:51,277
♪♪
388
00:19:51,275 --> 00:19:53,825
I told them what had happened
389
00:19:53,827 --> 00:19:57,477
to Joe and my nephew,
390
00:19:57,482 --> 00:19:59,382
so he got all excited,
391
00:19:59,379 --> 00:20:01,589
and he wanted to come out
and look for it,
392
00:20:01,586 --> 00:20:03,856
and he was like, "Let's come
over on Friday night,
393
00:20:03,862 --> 00:20:05,142
"and let's go, you know,
394
00:20:05,137 --> 00:20:09,517
see if we can hear
anything in the woods."
395
00:20:09,517 --> 00:20:10,967
When the investigators came,
396
00:20:10,965 --> 00:20:13,135
I gave them
a tour of the woods
397
00:20:13,137 --> 00:20:14,927
where I had experienced
the creature.
398
00:20:14,931 --> 00:20:16,281
I took him down
to the treehouse.
399
00:20:16,275 --> 00:20:17,785
It's his spot.
400
00:20:17,793 --> 00:20:21,663
Absolutely hate being up there.
I feel like I'm being watched.
401
00:20:21,655 --> 00:20:25,755
That particular area, it makes
the hair stand up on my neck
402
00:20:25,758 --> 00:20:26,858
whenever I get out there.
403
00:20:26,862 --> 00:20:29,662
♪♪
404
00:20:29,655 --> 00:20:35,235
[ Creature growling ]
405
00:20:35,241 --> 00:20:37,761
He set his equipment up
overlooking the area
406
00:20:37,758 --> 00:20:40,858
that I had the encounter.
407
00:20:40,862 --> 00:20:42,972
I started
to get really nervous.
408
00:20:42,965 --> 00:20:44,855
I didn't want to stay the night
by the tree stand,
409
00:20:44,862 --> 00:20:49,312
but I was also very interested
into what he was gonna find
410
00:20:49,310 --> 00:20:51,240
because he had the equipment
411
00:20:51,241 --> 00:20:52,451
that could probably
capture things
412
00:20:52,448 --> 00:20:55,168
that we'd never heard before.
413
00:20:55,172 --> 00:20:56,592
Okay. I'm up and rolling.
414
00:20:56,586 --> 00:21:00,716
Let's see if we can
hear anything.
415
00:21:00,724 --> 00:21:02,664
JOE: The first thing that he did
was he recorded
416
00:21:02,655 --> 00:21:06,335
the sounds of the woods.
417
00:21:06,344 --> 00:21:08,414
SUZANNE:
You couldn't see anything.
418
00:21:08,413 --> 00:21:12,903
I heard the normal sounds
and little bugs, whatever,
419
00:21:12,896 --> 00:21:16,786
in the woods
but nothing unusual.
420
00:21:16,793 --> 00:21:20,663
JOE: We were there several hours
that night and nothing happened.
421
00:21:20,655 --> 00:21:23,165
♪♪
422
00:21:23,172 --> 00:21:24,522
Because we weren't
hearing anything,
423
00:21:24,517 --> 00:21:26,067
he tried a different approach.
424
00:21:26,068 --> 00:21:27,928
These things are known
to be territorial.
425
00:21:27,931 --> 00:21:36,621
♪♪
426
00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:42,000
[ Tapping ]
427
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,790
♪♪
428
00:21:43,793 --> 00:21:46,593
That direction,
over by the treehouse.
429
00:21:46,586 --> 00:21:48,066
♪♪
430
00:21:48,068 --> 00:21:54,138
[ Creature howling ]
431
00:21:54,137 --> 00:21:55,547
How do you describe that?
432
00:21:55,551 --> 00:21:57,001
How do you really describe
that sound?
433
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:05,410
[ Creature howling ]
434
00:22:05,413 --> 00:22:10,933
♪♪
435
00:22:10,931 --> 00:22:16,381
♪♪
436
00:22:16,379 --> 00:22:18,589
It didn't sound anything
like humans.
437
00:22:18,586 --> 00:22:22,656
[ Creature howling ]
438
00:22:22,655 --> 00:22:25,405
It didn't sound like anything
that I'd ever heard.
439
00:22:25,413 --> 00:22:27,663
Coyotes, I've heard
many coyotes,
440
00:22:27,655 --> 00:22:29,135
nothing, nothing like that.
441
00:22:29,137 --> 00:22:32,997
It had a totally different tone
and a lot longer for every howl.
442
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,720
[ Creature howling ]
443
00:22:34,724 --> 00:22:38,794
He would take a few rocks
and bang them together.
444
00:22:38,793 --> 00:22:41,593
♪♪
445
00:22:41,586 --> 00:22:46,716
[ Creature howling ]
446
00:22:46,724 --> 00:22:49,624
It's almost exciting,
in a sense,
447
00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:52,450
to really hear the response
from what they were getting.
448
00:22:52,448 --> 00:23:00,928
[ Creature howling ]
449
00:23:00,931 --> 00:23:02,931
♪♪
450
00:23:02,931 --> 00:23:07,141
It sent chills down my back.
451
00:23:07,137 --> 00:23:11,477
You can hear yelling,
452
00:23:11,482 --> 00:23:15,452
breaking trees,
453
00:23:15,448 --> 00:23:16,758
like, screaming.
454
00:23:16,758 --> 00:23:19,278
[ Creature howling,
branches breaking ]
455
00:23:19,275 --> 00:23:20,275
I was afraid.
456
00:23:20,275 --> 00:23:23,855
[ Creature howling, thud ]
457
00:23:23,862 --> 00:23:27,242
And, all of the sudden, a very
loud sound comes from behind.
458
00:23:27,241 --> 00:23:29,931
There's a metal drum, like
a metal fuel tank that's empty.
459
00:23:29,931 --> 00:23:32,931
It sounded like something
very heavy slammed into that.
460
00:23:32,931 --> 00:23:34,861
When I heard that sound,
I felt scared
461
00:23:34,862 --> 00:23:37,452
because we had heard
the noises in front of us,
462
00:23:37,448 --> 00:23:40,828
and it was behind us so fast.
463
00:23:40,827 --> 00:23:42,587
Now it snuck up behind us,
and, you know, we're like,
464
00:23:42,586 --> 00:23:45,026
"We're being stalked."
465
00:23:45,034 --> 00:23:47,484
It scared everybody
really bad.
466
00:23:47,482 --> 00:23:48,622
Go, go, go, go, go!
467
00:23:48,620 --> 00:23:53,240
That night, I was scared
but also reassured,
468
00:23:53,241 --> 00:23:54,411
knowing that I'm not crazy.
469
00:23:54,413 --> 00:23:56,623
[ Creature howling ]
470
00:23:56,620 --> 00:24:01,030
♪♪
471
00:24:05,103 --> 00:24:15,033
♪♪
472
00:24:15,034 --> 00:24:18,314
[ Creature growling ]
473
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:28,310
[ Creature howling,
branches breaking ]
474
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:32,140
♪♪
475
00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:34,787
I was afraid that whatever was
in the woods
476
00:24:34,793 --> 00:24:37,833
was coming closer to my house,
477
00:24:37,827 --> 00:24:41,897
and I tried to keep living there
and not thinking about it.
478
00:24:41,896 --> 00:24:45,756
♪♪
479
00:24:45,758 --> 00:24:50,618
Some time later, some friends
of our called and said,
480
00:24:50,620 --> 00:24:55,100
"Hey, you know, Roger just got
this deer and killed this deer,
481
00:24:55,103 --> 00:24:56,413
"and can we bring it up there?
482
00:24:56,413 --> 00:24:57,863
We're gonna gut it,"
and this and that,
483
00:24:57,862 --> 00:24:59,862
and, "We're gonna, you know,
make deer burger
484
00:24:59,862 --> 00:25:01,692
and all that stuff."
485
00:25:01,689 --> 00:25:06,589
♪♪
486
00:25:06,586 --> 00:25:09,756
So my husband hung the deer up.
They skinned the deer.
487
00:25:09,758 --> 00:25:11,338
They began grinding up the meat
and all that,
488
00:25:11,344 --> 00:25:14,454
and we just made
an afternoon out of it, evening.
489
00:25:14,448 --> 00:25:17,278
Everybody is cooking out.
Some of our friends came.
490
00:25:17,275 --> 00:25:19,275
[ Laughs ]
491
00:25:19,275 --> 00:25:24,655
♪♪
492
00:25:24,655 --> 00:25:27,715
And they all left.
493
00:25:27,724 --> 00:25:29,694
They would always just,
you know, take the carcass
494
00:25:29,689 --> 00:25:31,659
and throw them out in the woods
because coyotes, whatever.
495
00:25:31,655 --> 00:25:41,405
♪♪
496
00:25:41,413 --> 00:25:50,693
♪♪
497
00:25:50,689 --> 00:26:00,659
♪♪
498
00:26:00,655 --> 00:26:05,335
And it wasn't wintertime
because the windows were open.
499
00:26:05,344 --> 00:26:08,974
You know, it was
a beautiful evening.
500
00:26:08,965 --> 00:26:10,965
I woke up in the middle
of the night.
501
00:26:10,965 --> 00:26:20,375
♪♪
502
00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:23,239
♪♪
503
00:26:23,241 --> 00:26:26,761
I said, "Jesus, get up!
Get up. Oh, my God.
504
00:26:26,758 --> 00:26:29,618
I think there's a fire.
I smell, you know, some fire,"
505
00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:33,720
and he said,
506
00:26:33,724 --> 00:26:38,004
"That's not smoke.
There's nothing on fire."
507
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,070
He said, "I don't know
how to describe it
508
00:26:40,068 --> 00:26:42,168
except smells
like burning hair."
509
00:26:42,172 --> 00:26:45,172
There's something here.
510
00:26:45,172 --> 00:26:50,212
He said, "You know, I'm afraid
the blood from that deer
511
00:26:50,206 --> 00:26:53,136
drew something to the house."
512
00:26:53,137 --> 00:26:54,927
It was so strong.
513
00:26:54,931 --> 00:26:56,481
It was, I want to say,
514
00:26:56,482 --> 00:27:00,142
a sulfury,
a burning-hair smell.
515
00:27:00,137 --> 00:27:02,337
It was like an evil presence
was there.
516
00:27:02,344 --> 00:27:11,004
♪♪
517
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:19,760
♪♪
518
00:27:19,758 --> 00:27:21,618
What are you doing?
519
00:27:21,620 --> 00:27:25,450
♪♪
520
00:27:25,448 --> 00:27:27,028
I'm thinking, "The creature
is in the woods,
521
00:27:27,034 --> 00:27:28,864
and it's running
around my house."
522
00:27:28,862 --> 00:27:29,972
That's what I thought.
523
00:27:29,965 --> 00:27:35,925
♪♪
524
00:27:35,931 --> 00:27:41,211
♪♪
525
00:27:41,206 --> 00:27:46,136
When I looked into his eyes
that night, he had fear.
526
00:27:46,137 --> 00:27:47,997
I hadn't seen that before.
527
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,760
♪♪
528
00:27:53,758 --> 00:27:55,338
[ Heavy stomping ]
529
00:27:55,344 --> 00:28:00,244
Up in the woods, you could hear
something walking,
530
00:28:00,241 --> 00:28:02,211
but you couldn't see anything.
531
00:28:02,206 --> 00:28:06,856
[ Heavy footsteps ]
532
00:28:06,862 --> 00:28:08,762
I wouldn't be surprised
if it was less
533
00:28:08,758 --> 00:28:11,238
than 100 feet from our door,
534
00:28:11,241 --> 00:28:15,241
and you could hear it
walking through the woods.
535
00:28:15,241 --> 00:28:23,411
[ Heavy footsteps, growling ]
536
00:28:23,413 --> 00:28:29,863
♪♪
537
00:28:29,862 --> 00:28:31,722
These sounds were different.
538
00:28:31,724 --> 00:28:36,004
You could hear that,
like, a bark and, like,
539
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,240
a real angry scream.
540
00:28:38,241 --> 00:28:40,861
It kept doing
that over and over.
541
00:28:40,862 --> 00:28:45,212
[ Growling ]
542
00:28:45,206 --> 00:28:48,716
I was really scared there.
I really truly was.
543
00:28:48,724 --> 00:28:54,214
[ Creature growling ]
544
00:28:54,206 --> 00:28:58,716
He says, "I'm gonna unload
this gun right now.
545
00:28:58,724 --> 00:29:01,034
I'm just gonna start shooting."
546
00:29:01,034 --> 00:29:08,344
[ Gunshots ]
547
00:29:08,344 --> 00:29:14,284
♪♪
548
00:29:14,275 --> 00:29:19,925
♪♪
549
00:29:19,931 --> 00:29:21,761
He just shot his gun
550
00:29:21,758 --> 00:29:24,238
all into the back
of the hill behind our house.
551
00:29:24,241 --> 00:29:34,281
♪♪
552
00:29:34,275 --> 00:29:38,405
And after that, we didn't hear
anything else at all.
553
00:29:38,413 --> 00:29:42,073
♪♪
554
00:29:42,068 --> 00:29:45,968
Even now when I go out
into the woods,
555
00:29:45,965 --> 00:29:48,335
I feel like I'm being watched.
556
00:29:48,344 --> 00:29:50,414
What I've learned is that
there's definitely something
557
00:29:50,413 --> 00:29:53,343
out there
that we don't know about.
558
00:29:53,344 --> 00:29:55,284
Just because so many people
haven't seen it
559
00:29:55,275 --> 00:29:57,065
doesn't mean
it's not out there.
560
00:29:57,068 --> 00:29:59,688
[ Sighs ]
561
00:29:59,689 --> 00:30:03,619
When people tell me
they see things, I believe them.
562
00:30:03,620 --> 00:30:08,210
[ Creature howling ]
563
00:30:08,206 --> 00:30:11,026
I thought, "I just want out.
I want to move so bad.
564
00:30:11,034 --> 00:30:13,034
"I just want to go back
to the city.
565
00:30:13,034 --> 00:30:15,624
I'm not cut out for this stuff.
I just don't want to live here."
566
00:30:15,620 --> 00:30:17,000
I was afraid.
567
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:26,000
♪♪
568
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,310
If I could do my life
over again,
569
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:33,790
I would have never built
a home there, never.
570
00:30:33,793 --> 00:30:35,723
I wish I had never gone there.
571
00:30:35,724 --> 00:30:39,034
[ Howling ]
572
00:30:39,034 --> 00:30:42,284
♪♪
573
00:30:46,344 --> 00:30:50,664
♪♪
574
00:30:50,655 --> 00:30:52,655
I could really see
just how massive
575
00:30:52,655 --> 00:30:55,165
the animal actually was.
576
00:30:55,172 --> 00:30:58,212
It closed distance
between us within seconds.
577
00:30:58,206 --> 00:31:01,856
It could've reached out
and grabbed me by my hair.
578
00:31:01,862 --> 00:31:03,032
You can't freeze.
579
00:31:03,034 --> 00:31:04,524
You cannot freeze in a moment
like that
580
00:31:04,517 --> 00:31:06,477
because you freeze, you die.
581
00:31:06,482 --> 00:31:15,862
♪♪
582
00:31:15,862 --> 00:31:25,482
♪♪
583
00:31:25,482 --> 00:31:31,342
♪♪
584
00:31:31,344 --> 00:31:36,454
I'm from the Twin Cities
of Minnesota,
585
00:31:36,448 --> 00:31:38,238
basically grew up out
in the woods.
586
00:31:38,241 --> 00:31:42,281
From a young age, my dad
started me with,
587
00:31:42,275 --> 00:31:44,475
like, firearm safety
to get me ready for hunting
588
00:31:44,482 --> 00:31:45,932
when I was 11 or 12.
589
00:31:45,931 --> 00:31:50,721
I've been doing that ever since.
590
00:31:50,724 --> 00:31:52,034
I've always liked it.
591
00:31:52,034 --> 00:31:54,904
It's always been fun
to just be out there.
592
00:31:54,896 --> 00:31:58,066
♪♪
593
00:31:58,068 --> 00:32:02,828
The cabin is located in a town
that's not far
594
00:32:02,827 --> 00:32:06,477
from Siren, Wisconsin,
and Northwestern Wisconsin.
595
00:32:06,482 --> 00:32:09,792
We would go up there
several times a year,
596
00:32:09,793 --> 00:32:12,143
especially during the summer.
597
00:32:12,137 --> 00:32:14,827
It's literally
just surrounded in miles
598
00:32:14,827 --> 00:32:17,617
and miles of thick forest.
599
00:32:17,620 --> 00:32:20,210
It's the middle of nowhere.
[ Chuckles ]
600
00:32:20,206 --> 00:32:26,586
♪♪
601
00:32:26,586 --> 00:32:32,966
♪♪
602
00:32:32,965 --> 00:32:35,785
Once it got dark there,
it was spooky.
603
00:32:35,793 --> 00:32:38,283
It was a scary area to be in.
604
00:32:38,275 --> 00:32:44,445
♪♪
605
00:32:44,448 --> 00:32:49,278
For years, we would have
campfires in the firepit,
606
00:32:49,275 --> 00:32:52,135
and from the firepit,
you can look up the hill
607
00:32:52,137 --> 00:32:54,717
that goes to that tree line,
and it'd feel like at night
608
00:32:54,724 --> 00:32:56,384
like there
was something watching you.
609
00:32:56,379 --> 00:33:00,449
♪♪
610
00:33:00,448 --> 00:33:03,448
I always felt like their eyes
just locked on
611
00:33:03,448 --> 00:33:04,408
to you from up there.
612
00:33:04,413 --> 00:33:11,383
♪♪
613
00:33:11,379 --> 00:33:15,789
You didn't want to wander
around those woods at night.
614
00:33:15,793 --> 00:33:18,173
My mom, she always felt
the same way.
615
00:33:18,172 --> 00:33:26,382
♪♪
616
00:33:26,379 --> 00:33:34,829
♪♪
617
00:33:34,827 --> 00:33:37,757
That day, I was hanging out
with my cousin.
618
00:33:37,758 --> 00:33:39,518
Ow!
619
00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:42,827
He was about my age.
620
00:33:42,827 --> 00:33:46,237
I decided to go and have
ourselves a little battle,
621
00:33:46,241 --> 00:33:52,071
going around with BB guns
that shoot plastic BBs.
622
00:33:52,068 --> 00:33:55,278
It's a fun game, but it doesn't
feel good to get hit by those
623
00:33:55,275 --> 00:33:58,715
BBs because
they fly pretty fast.
624
00:33:58,724 --> 00:34:00,244
-Ah!
-Ooh, that sting?
625
00:34:00,241 --> 00:34:03,031
I was more into it
than my cousin was.
626
00:34:03,034 --> 00:34:05,284
He dressed in regular,
plain clothes.
627
00:34:05,275 --> 00:34:08,925
I had on old army woodland
camouflage, and I figured,
628
00:34:08,931 --> 00:34:12,281
"Hey, camouflage, woods,
they go hand in hand,"
629
00:34:12,275 --> 00:34:13,965
and then I retreated
to the wood line
630
00:34:13,965 --> 00:34:18,335
to try to utilize
the camouflage.
631
00:34:18,344 --> 00:34:21,214
He was chasing me
into the woods.
632
00:34:21,206 --> 00:34:25,476
As I was bouncing from cover
to cover, he would shoot.
633
00:34:25,482 --> 00:34:28,762
I would duck, and then I would
shoot, and he would duck.
634
00:34:28,757 --> 00:34:31,477
[ Laughter ]
635
00:34:31,482 --> 00:34:32,792
Every once in a while,
we'd get hit.
636
00:34:32,793 --> 00:34:38,723
♪♪
637
00:34:38,724 --> 00:34:43,594
I would crouch, stay low and try
to stay less visible,
638
00:34:43,585 --> 00:34:44,825
kind of like I was hunting.
639
00:34:44,827 --> 00:34:47,237
♪♪
640
00:34:47,241 --> 00:34:49,861
Hey, let's not go too far
into the woods, John!
641
00:34:49,862 --> 00:34:58,932
♪♪
642
00:34:58,931 --> 00:35:01,691
We were at the top of a hill
where there's a slight
643
00:35:01,689 --> 00:35:02,929
clearing in the wood line,
644
00:35:02,931 --> 00:35:05,031
where you can see
for a good 50, 60 yards.
645
00:35:05,034 --> 00:35:09,554
♪♪
646
00:35:09,551 --> 00:35:12,241
Time out!
647
00:35:12,241 --> 00:35:15,281
I called time out because,
mostly, I was winded.
648
00:35:15,275 --> 00:35:18,405
I was tired from running,
and I figured,
649
00:35:18,413 --> 00:35:21,833
"Hey, let's take a break."
650
00:35:21,827 --> 00:35:23,167
[ Laughs ] I got you good!
651
00:35:23,172 --> 00:35:24,242
In your dreams.
652
00:35:24,241 --> 00:35:29,661
I noticed that the woods
were dead quiet.
653
00:35:29,655 --> 00:35:31,445
All the birds
had stopped chirping.
654
00:35:31,448 --> 00:35:36,098
♪♪
655
00:35:36,103 --> 00:35:40,383
It clicked in my head that
there's something wrong here.
656
00:35:40,379 --> 00:35:43,309
♪♪
657
00:35:43,310 --> 00:35:44,620
What?
658
00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:46,280
When the woods go quiet,
it typically means
659
00:35:46,275 --> 00:35:49,445
there is
a large predator nearby,
660
00:35:49,448 --> 00:35:51,448
whether it be a bear
or a mountain lion.
661
00:35:51,448 --> 00:35:53,028
That's something that
I'm familiar with
662
00:35:53,034 --> 00:35:54,794
because I've had
multiple encounters
663
00:35:54,793 --> 00:35:56,413
with predators in the woods,
664
00:35:56,413 --> 00:35:59,793
and it's a terrifying
experience.
665
00:35:59,793 --> 00:36:05,003
♪♪
666
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,340
I began to look from left
to right across this clearing
667
00:36:08,344 --> 00:36:11,524
because I had the feeling
of being watched.
668
00:36:11,517 --> 00:36:14,447
♪♪
669
00:36:14,448 --> 00:36:18,448
I was expecting a bear,
670
00:36:18,448 --> 00:36:21,408
was the most likely option.
671
00:36:21,413 --> 00:36:23,933
When I went from right to left,
672
00:36:23,931 --> 00:36:28,141
about halfway is when I locked
on to it, when I saw it.
673
00:36:28,137 --> 00:36:35,927
♪♪
674
00:36:39,896 --> 00:36:49,826
♪♪
675
00:36:49,827 --> 00:36:53,657
♪♪
676
00:36:53,655 --> 00:37:00,825
[ Creature growling ]
677
00:37:00,827 --> 00:37:03,277
What stood out was white,
678
00:37:03,275 --> 00:37:05,925
and I saw the white, focused,
679
00:37:05,931 --> 00:37:07,971
and it was teeth,
680
00:37:07,965 --> 00:37:11,375
large canine teeth,
681
00:37:11,379 --> 00:37:13,999
and it had massive jaws.
682
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,550
I could really see just how
massive the animal actually was.
683
00:37:17,551 --> 00:37:19,031
I saw its eyes.
684
00:37:19,034 --> 00:37:23,214
The way that that was looking
at us, it was like daggers.
685
00:37:23,206 --> 00:37:26,206
It was darting its eyes
between my cousin and me.
686
00:37:26,206 --> 00:37:28,616
[ Creature growling ]
687
00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:30,170
I tensed up immediately.
688
00:37:30,172 --> 00:37:34,482
I did not want to deal
with this situation.
689
00:37:34,482 --> 00:37:35,622
You can't freeze.
690
00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:37,140
You cannot freeze in a moment
like that
691
00:37:37,137 --> 00:37:38,617
because you freeze, you die.
692
00:37:38,620 --> 00:37:46,380
[ Growling ]
693
00:37:46,379 --> 00:37:50,139
It sounded like it closed
distance
694
00:37:50,137 --> 00:37:52,827
between us within seconds.
695
00:37:52,827 --> 00:37:54,857
I could hear it directly
behind me.
696
00:37:54,862 --> 00:37:56,522
My cousin has stopped.
697
00:37:56,517 --> 00:37:59,587
Let's go! Let's go!
698
00:37:59,586 --> 00:38:02,716
Just keep going.
I'm right behind him.
699
00:38:02,724 --> 00:38:05,004
This thing is right on me,
700
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,450
close enough
to where it could've reached out
701
00:38:06,448 --> 00:38:07,588
and grabbed me by my hair.
702
00:38:07,586 --> 00:38:12,306
♪♪
703
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:16,240
Once we cleared the tree line,
we stopped hearing the animal,
704
00:38:16,241 --> 00:38:18,341
and we ran straight
for the cabins.
705
00:38:18,344 --> 00:38:22,554
♪♪
706
00:38:22,551 --> 00:38:23,971
What was that?
707
00:38:23,965 --> 00:38:25,825
And he seemed about as freaked
out as I did,
708
00:38:25,827 --> 00:38:28,517
and at that point,
I didn't know what to say,
709
00:38:28,517 --> 00:38:31,137
so I told him it was a bear
710
00:38:31,137 --> 00:38:33,587
because I knew
that my grandparents,
711
00:38:33,586 --> 00:38:36,476
who were with us,
would not believe any of that.
712
00:38:36,482 --> 00:38:39,662
[ Growling ]
713
00:38:39,655 --> 00:38:48,995
♪♪
714
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:57,720
♪♪
715
00:38:57,724 --> 00:39:00,074
The first person
I told was my mother.
716
00:39:00,068 --> 00:39:02,518
It wasn't a bear, Mom.
717
00:39:02,517 --> 00:39:03,997
It was something else.
718
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,070
And she said it had brought back
bad memories for her.
719
00:39:08,068 --> 00:39:09,828
I've seen one.
720
00:39:09,827 --> 00:39:12,857
She told me
she had seen one as well
721
00:39:12,862 --> 00:39:14,592
in the same area of Wisconsin.
722
00:39:14,586 --> 00:39:21,406
♪♪
723
00:39:21,413 --> 00:39:28,213
♪♪
724
00:39:28,206 --> 00:39:33,166
She said that an animal
began crossing the road.
725
00:39:33,172 --> 00:39:36,552
The size of the animal
was more than twice
726
00:39:36,551 --> 00:39:40,481
the size of a regular wolf.
727
00:39:40,482 --> 00:39:43,312
She described the way
that the creature had moved
728
00:39:43,310 --> 00:39:45,340
as being unnatural.
729
00:39:45,344 --> 00:39:48,244
It looked like it was
uncomfortable in its own feet.
730
00:39:48,241 --> 00:39:51,001
[ Creature growling ]
731
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,520
It looked right at her vehicle
732
00:39:54,517 --> 00:39:57,967
like it wanted to scare
the living crap out of her.
733
00:39:57,965 --> 00:40:05,165
[ Growling ]
734
00:40:05,172 --> 00:40:07,832
It immediately charged
to the car.
735
00:40:07,827 --> 00:40:11,857
She believed that what she was
looking at was pure evil.
736
00:40:11,862 --> 00:40:13,862
[ Growling ]
737
00:40:13,862 --> 00:40:16,762
And decided to break off
and run into the woods.
738
00:40:16,758 --> 00:40:19,518
♪♪
739
00:40:19,517 --> 00:40:20,787
The research I've done,
740
00:40:20,793 --> 00:40:25,343
I find out that people are
calling these dog-men.
741
00:40:25,344 --> 00:40:28,104
Personally, I find the name
to be a little silly,
742
00:40:28,103 --> 00:40:32,453
but I think that it matches
the descriptions
743
00:40:32,448 --> 00:40:34,378
of what the other
eyewitnesses have seen.
744
00:40:34,379 --> 00:40:37,479
[ Creature growling ]
745
00:40:37,482 --> 00:40:41,412
I believe that this creature was
in the woods, waiting for us.
746
00:40:41,413 --> 00:40:44,173
It was an uncomfortable
feeling to have, to realize,
747
00:40:44,172 --> 00:40:47,762
"Oh, hey, there's something
out here that is likely
748
00:40:47,758 --> 00:40:51,588
as intelligent as I am,
and it's hunting."
749
00:40:51,586 --> 00:40:54,336
[ Growling ]
750
00:40:54,344 --> 00:40:59,934
♪♪
751
00:40:59,931 --> 00:41:04,341
After the encounter,
I was way more cautious
752
00:41:04,344 --> 00:41:06,004
when going out
into those woods.
753
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,210
I didn't want
to take the chance
754
00:41:08,206 --> 00:41:10,476
of having to outrun
something like that again.
755
00:41:10,482 --> 00:41:16,342
♪♪
756
00:41:16,344 --> 00:41:19,724
There might be more
dangerous creatures out there
757
00:41:19,724 --> 00:41:24,764
than what science likes
to talk about.
758
00:41:24,758 --> 00:41:27,378
I'm more accepting that
759
00:41:27,379 --> 00:41:31,169
these creatures can exist.
760
00:41:31,172 --> 00:41:36,072
Since then, I haven't
stepped foot in any forest
761
00:41:36,068 --> 00:41:39,308
without carrying
either my handgun,
762
00:41:39,310 --> 00:41:42,240
rifle or a knife
763
00:41:42,241 --> 00:41:45,281
or a combination
of all three.
764
00:41:45,275 --> 00:41:50,335
I will not go out unarmed,
not out into any wild areas.
765
00:41:50,344 --> 00:41:51,664
If I could I go back in time,
766
00:41:51,655 --> 00:41:54,065
if I had the knowledge
that this creature
767
00:41:54,068 --> 00:41:57,478
was going to be in the woods
at that moment,
768
00:41:57,482 --> 00:41:59,482
I never would've gone
to the woods,
769
00:41:59,482 --> 00:42:01,382
but can't really change
the past,
770
00:42:01,379 --> 00:42:05,719
so, I mean,
I'm stuck with it.
771
00:42:05,724 --> 00:42:08,174
I'm stuck with what happened.
772
00:42:08,172 --> 00:42:10,722
♪♪
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