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Subs created by: David Coleman.
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Something is not right.
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Angry... very angry.
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I wake up with scratches.
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They're all losing it.
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There's a war going on.
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I see this thing, like,
whispering in their ear.
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It's something evil.
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They're kind of being possessed.
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This is demonic.
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They're trying to kill me.
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They're not safe anywhere in this house.
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They're being watched.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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This thing likes death.
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I see dead people.
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This thing's, like, a monster.
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I speak to dead people.
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And he's pissed off now.
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And they speak to me.
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His head was cracked.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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This guy was murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired
New York City homicide Detective.
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I cannot help you unless
I know the whole story.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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You saw her?
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Why would you stay here?
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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[ Echoing ] Stop it.
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We uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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Woman: I want to know the truth.
I want to know what's happening.
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Or time to get out.
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[ Crying ] I told you there
were ghosts in this house.
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Di Schiavi: It's crucial that Amy
and I conduct separate investigations.
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I interview witnesses, research
the history of the location,
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and uncover secrets from the
past, while Amy speaks to the dead.
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I'm in the small resort
town of Watervliet, Michigan,
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a few hours outside of Detroit.
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Amy and I were called in
by a woman named Amanda.
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When I spoke to her on the
phone, her message was simple...
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You guys need to help me, or
this house is gonna kill me.
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Obviously, this is a serious situation,
and I'm hoping Amy and I can help her out.
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Anderson: Before Amy arrives, I have to
clear the area of any leading information.
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I can tell from the photos alone
that a couple with kids live here.
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So I have to carefully remove any evidence
of this before Amy begins her walk.
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Allan: I'm seeing a lot
of physical activity.
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There's something around that's...
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Uh, creepy.
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There's a dead person or entity
that's a controller of this location.
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I think it might be a child.
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Something about hidden truth, I think,
was specifically what they said...
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Hidden truth.
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Di Schiavi: Well, Amanda, you
sounded pretty desperate on the phone,
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so why don't you
explain what's happening?
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I'm beyond scared for my safety.
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I'm pretty much scared for my life.
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My health has seriously declined since
I moved back here three years ago.
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And because of that,
I've put on weight...
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And about two months
ago, I had a heart attack.
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- And you're how old now?
- 32.
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- That's really young for a heart attack.
- It is.
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Was it because of the weight gain
that this caused the heart attack,
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or did the doctor say
what may have caused it?
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They don't know what caused it. They
did tests, and there was no blockages.
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Okay. And what else has happened?
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I've been scratched and burned.
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I'm fearful for myself and for
my boyfriend and for his kids.
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Are they here all the time?
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No, they just come to
visit... usually on weekends.
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- Does anybody else live in the house?
- Yes.
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My mother and a friend of the family
does stay in the basement, as well.
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I'm gonna ask the obvious
thing... why are you staying here?
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I came back to the area because my dad
was sick, and finances are a big problem.
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What's your biggest concern, then?
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Dying.
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I feel like they're...
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They're systematically
trying to kill me...
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Whatever is in this house.
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Allan: There's this thing in
this house that's really bad.
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The people here have no ability to...
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Not be influenced by...
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These dead people.
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Like, they can be unhealthy, they
can't take care of themselves,
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they can't sleep and
can't eat right, and...
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Because either they eat too
much or they don't eat enough.
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They're not safe anywhere in this house.
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I started to sense that
the influential presence
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in this house was targeting
one person in particular.
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This thing can easily
access this person's mind.
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It can make this person
do anything it wants.
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Di Schiavi: So, what's
happening in here?
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I wake up with scratches
and burns, actually.
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What do these look like?
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I have some pictures
here of some of them.
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- Okay.
- You can see.
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You just woke up and
that burn was there?
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Yeah.
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There a candle or anything
that could have did this to you?
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No.
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And this is none of the animals you're
living with or anything like that?
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No, absolutely not.
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So, Amanda, looking at this I would imagine
it's got to be tough sleeping at night.
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Yeah. Sometimes I find
myself sleepwalking.
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I've had bruises on my calves from
where I've run into things, and...
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It's, um... it's gotten out of control.
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I've developed sleep apnea and insomnia.
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When I do sleep, I have bad dreams.
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I had a dream that we were driving Mike's
kids home and we were hit by a semi.
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I see this thing, like, kind of standing
at this person's back, being like...
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You know, like, whispering in their ear,
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like, do this or do that,
and the person can't sleep.
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And if they sleep, then it's really bad,
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like invasions in the
sleep or something like...
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What do you mean?
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Maybe it's like a trance state.
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Like, they're seeing where they're going,
but they don't have any control over it.
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You know, and then
they're, like, startled...
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- Okay...
- Which is really...
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Kind of unnerving, uh, because...
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Well, then they're
kind of being possessed.
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[ Distorted voice ] Possessed.
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Di Schiavi: What's
going on in the kitchen?
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One time, I was just grabbing
something out of the pantry,
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and I turned around, and there
was a man standing next to me.
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Okay. So, describe him for me.
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- He was a little taller than I was, thin.
- Okay.
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He had a square jaw
and a button-down shirt.
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If you were to see a photo, would you be
able to recognize if it's the same person?
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Yeah. I think he was trying to warn me
that there's something else in the house.
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And that I needed to
do something about it.
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Okay.
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Something is not right here.
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This is a male.
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And he is not that old.
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He is, like, in his 50s.
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He's, like...
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Angry. Very angry.
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Something in this
house is wreaking havoc,
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but I don't think this angry man
is the one influencing the living.
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He's not advanced enough.
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He's just getting pissed
off and beating on the walls.
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And, like, stomping on the floors.
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He's trying to put it back
the way he knows it to be.
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Like, he's trying to take down the
things that don't make sense to him.
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Amanda: This is where the scariest
thing that I've encountered happened.
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I felt like I was in
some sort of trance...
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And I came out of it, and
I found myself standing...
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At the kitchen counter,
spinning a knife.
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- Spinning a knife?
- Yes.
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I later realized that I was having
a lot of negative thoughts...
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Suicidal thoughts.
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Okay. Now, have you ever
had suicidal thoughts before?
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No.
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Did you ever have it again in the house?
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No.
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Did you tell your boyfriend about it?
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- No, I didn't tell anyone.
- Why not?
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They're already worried for my health.
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I don't want them to worry
about me taking my life.
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I think that whatever's in here...
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Is trying to kill me,
one way or another...
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Either through my health or
through making me take my own life.
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Allan: What is this thing?
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It feels like...
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A child?
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I feel like...
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That it would be a girl.
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12- or 13-year-old.
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She looks like a shadow person.
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She's bad. Whoa!
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Anderson: What happened?
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[ Girl laughing ]
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This girl...
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Zapped me.
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She [Bleep] ran at me.
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I didn't expect this at all.
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The entity that's tormenting the
people in this house is a little girl.
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She's pretty strong. She
knows what she's doing.
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She took all my energy.
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She tries to control all
the people that come here.
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I think she's influenced somebody to
either commit suicide or kill someone.
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So, this room is the room
that I made for Mike's kids.
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Okay. How old are they?
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His son is 11, and his daughter is 12.
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Have the kids experienced
anything up here?
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Just last weekend, Mike's
son had experiences.
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- What happened?
- He saw red eyes staring at him.
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- Where?
- In the hallway.
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- Were the dogs up here?
- No. The dogs are never up here.
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Amanda, let me ask you a
question, are you worried
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that something's gonna
happen to the kids?
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Certainly.
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Allan: This little
girl... she's jealous.
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Jealousy between this girl and...
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And whoever's in here.
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Bad. That's not good.
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You said that she might
try to influence the living?
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- Mm-hmm.
- Do you know who that would be?
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- It's an adult.
- What does she want?
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To make her kill them.
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Kill who?
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Whoever's in this room.
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So, Mike, I spoke with Amanda, and she
explained what's going on in the house.
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And her concerns.
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- Have you had experiences here?
- Yes, I have.
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I actually had a few
experiences in the bedroom.
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Sleeping at night, I feel like
there's somebody crawling in bed.
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I can feel the bed pressing down like
somebody's crawling in bed with me...
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Right.
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When Amanda will be up in
the living room watching TV.
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The first time, it
scared me, and it happened
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for about two weeks
after that... every night.
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Did it feel like a human or maybe one
of the dogs? What did it feel like?
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It felt like a human.
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Okay. Anything else?
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I've heard, actually, a voice.
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Again, we were in there,
watching TV again at night,
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and I heard somebody
whisper, how you doing?
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And I looked at Amanda. I said,
did you say something to me?
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She said, no.
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Now, when they said, how you
doing? Was it a female or a...?
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It was a female.
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She likes to be as scary as possible...
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And she's actually pretty good at it.
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Like, she crawls in bed with this person
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and acts like it's sleeping
with... this person.
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She yells and screams...
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And howls...
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[ Girl giggling ]
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Which I would think that the living
would probably be able to hear.
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It's very scary for me,
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because it doesn't seem like I'm
in control when this is happening.
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I have had fits of rage.
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I get mad over the littlest
things... a question being asked.
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I'm afraid that I'm gonna
hurt somebody in the house.
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- And that's not in your nature?
- No, Sir. No, Sir.
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Do you feel it's when you're
here you get like that?
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Yes.
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That's got to be a strain on your
relationship with Amanda, also.
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Yes, it is.
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What do you think is
going on in this house?
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I think it's something evil.
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- Why don't you just move out?
- Because I love her, you know and,
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we care for each other and we're
helping each other out through this.
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So, the girl...
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She can go anywhere she
wants to in the house.
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She can make them feel agitated.
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Attaching herself to them.
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Draining their energy,
making them feel sick.
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So, Pat, I was talking to your
daughter, and I wanted to talk to you.
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- I understand you live here.
- Yeah.
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You've been living here a long time.
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- Close to 17 years.
- 17 years?
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So, have you experienced
anything since you've been here?
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No.
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Why do you think that is?
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I have a relationship with the Lord.
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And I think that keeps me from seeing...
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Or experiencing
anything that is demonic.
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And I believe this is demonic.
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So, you believe that Amanda
is telling me the truth?
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I do, absolutely.
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Amanda's at risk right now.
They're warring over her.
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Why her?
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Because I believe that God
has a special purpose for her.
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And she hasn't stepped up to it.
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And I still try to encourage
her to get back to the faith.
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And you believe that if she found
her way back to the church...
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It doesn't even have to be church...
just finds her way back to God,
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that that would cease.
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[ Clears throat ]
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It's really hard to watch as a parent.
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I pray that there is a solution.
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That she can be the vibrant person.
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And have the full life...
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You know, the active
life that she deserves.
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She already had a heart attack.
283
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You worried about losing her?
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It crosses my mind.
285
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I try not to dwell on the negative.
286
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I know that there's a plan.
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What are you hoping that Amy
and I can do for your daughter?
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I really have no expectations.
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I really don't think that
there's anything that can be done.
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It's only the power of the
Lord that's gonna handle it.
291
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There's a war going on between
God's Angels and the Devil's Demons.
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[ Hinges creak ]
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There's, like, really, really,
really bad, bad things down here.
294
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Not where I'd be wanting to be.
295
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What the [Bleep] is this?
296
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This old man putzing around
and being grumpy and...
297
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Just always angry and pissed off and,
298
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just unhappy and miserable
about his life and...
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Hates that somebody is down here...
300
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Hates that somebody is in its...
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In its space.
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He um...
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Gets angry.
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Whoever hangs out
down here is his focus.
305
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And I think he tries to
kill them at some point.
306
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Di Schiavi: I really feel for Amanda.
307
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For her, this investigation
is literally life and death.
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Now I'm heading over to
meet with a town historian...
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Who says Amanda's property is a
big part of Watervliet's history.
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Schlender: The property
you're investigating, Steve,
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was purchased and
developed by Isaac Swain.
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In the early 1830s.
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In addition, they had
vast holdings of property,
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which, at that particular time, was
all undeveloped forests and woodlands.
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And you can see where he has his name
on all of these different plots of land.
316
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And how much property do
you think he had altogether?
317
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Upwards of 900 acres.
318
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How did Swain make his mark
when he was living here?
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What did he do?
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Well, he was renowned
for his lumber mill.
321
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He had upwards of 50
employees working for him.
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It was the biggest
mill in Berrien County.
323
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Wow.
324
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I'm just seeing, like, woods...
325
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Uh, thick woods, lots of trees.
326
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All I'm getting is somebody, like,
saying, too bad about, you know, the trees.
327
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This little old lady's saying,
like, too bad about the trees,
328
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like, that they cut down all the trees.
329
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Di Schiavi: Daryl knew very little
about Isaac Swain's personal life.
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So I'm on my way to meet a local author,
331
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who says Swain's time in Watervliet
was filled with heartbreak.
332
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Di Schiavi: This guy, Isaac Swain,
what were you able to find out?
333
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Well, Isaac Swain and his
wife came to Watervliet.
334
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- And they had three children.
- Okay.
335
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He had a daughter named Martha...
336
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- Okay.
- And she died at the age of 15.
337
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- From what?
- Records back then didn't really specify.
338
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Then their youngest son,
who was age 3, William,
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passes away suddenly.
340
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- Right after she died, or...
- Exactly... within two years.
341
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But it doesn't stop there.
Their second daughter, Louisa...
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She had a tragic accident, and it's
hard to tell what exactly happened,
343
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but somewhere between
the ages of 10 and 14,
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she fell and hit her head so hard...
345
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That she became mentally disabled.
346
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She was basically an invalid?
347
00:20:50,376 --> 00:20:53,768
She basically was. She
had to have 24-hour care.
348
00:20:53,769 --> 00:20:57,102
I assume Isaac and his wife stayed in the
area and took care of the remaining child.
349
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For a while, they did, but, actually,
the wife, Vallonia, started to get sick,
350
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and I actually found a
picture of her for you.
351
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Now, do we know what
kind of illness she had?
352
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The symptoms that they described
were somewhat similar to Tuberculosis.
353
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It was important to Isaac to make sure
that she had the best care possible.
354
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- You're talking about his wife, Vallonia?
- Yes.
355
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So, what they did for three years...
356
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Was travel around the northeast,
actually looking for someone to help them,
357
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doctors... looking for
a different environment...
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- Right.
- In hopes that this would help cure her.
359
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- Does she get cured? What happens?
- No. Unfortunately...
360
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She does not get cured, and she...
361
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Succumbs to this.
362
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Would they have taken Louisa with
them on this three-year journey?
363
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Louisa was likely not taken with
them because she needed constant care.
364
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She lived with the staff
people and the caretakers.
365
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There was a certain
amount of stigma associated
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with somebody with a
mental disability back then.
367
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She had no social
interaction whatsoever?
368
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Very little. Very little.
369
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And the only people that she really knew
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- was her own family and her caretakers.
- Caretakers.
371
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And when her family passed
away, she was left alone.
372
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This girl... she died...
373
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Do you know when this was?
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00:22:24,391 --> 00:22:26,625
A while ago.
375
00:22:26,626 --> 00:22:29,690
Well, I'd say at least 100 years.
376
00:22:29,691 --> 00:22:33,532
The young girl that's been
stalking me is extremely powerful.
377
00:22:33,533 --> 00:22:38,448
And I'm starting to see what's
causing her to torment the living here.
378
00:22:38,449 --> 00:22:41,907
She has a lot of pain
that she's dealing with.
379
00:22:41,908 --> 00:22:46,588
- A lot of pain?
- Yeah, physical, physical.
380
00:22:47,770 --> 00:22:50,649
And she's not herself.
381
00:22:50,650 --> 00:22:54,070
She was mentally not okay.
382
00:22:54,773 --> 00:22:57,423
And she puts it like she
likes to play with people,
383
00:22:57,424 --> 00:23:01,347
because she wasn't allowed to play
with people when she was alive.
384
00:23:01,348 --> 00:23:03,895
Well, and then she was
just screaming at me
385
00:23:03,896 --> 00:23:07,803
through the... you
know, through the wall.
386
00:23:07,804 --> 00:23:09,601
She's kind of creepy, though.
387
00:23:09,602 --> 00:23:13,742
She's creeping me out a little bit.
388
00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:29,792
Di Schiavi: I'm at the
local library to see what
389
00:23:29,793 --> 00:23:33,689
else I can find out
about Amanda's problem.
390
00:23:33,690 --> 00:23:34,917
Digging through the archives,
391
00:23:34,918 --> 00:23:38,497
I uncover an obituary of a
young woman named Sadie Smith.
392
00:23:38,498 --> 00:23:41,318
Who died in 1918.
393
00:23:43,847 --> 00:23:46,148
The location of her funeral...
394
00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:49,449
My client's living room.
395
00:23:53,919 --> 00:23:57,659
So, not only does a 32-year-old woman
die on the property I'm investigating,
396
00:23:57,660 --> 00:24:00,359
they held her funeral
right inside the house.
397
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:02,797
I'm on my way to meet with
a local funeral Director
398
00:24:02,798 --> 00:24:08,698
who promised to look into the town
records and give me the whole story.
399
00:24:16,985 --> 00:24:20,050
Roland, I know from other
cases, back in the early days,
400
00:24:20,051 --> 00:24:22,517
that people did hold
funerals in their homes.
401
00:24:22,518 --> 00:24:24,405
Now, was that common in this area?
402
00:24:24,406 --> 00:24:27,205
Hutchins: Back in 1918,
probably 90% of the time,
403
00:24:27,206 --> 00:24:29,491
funerals were held in the home, yes.
404
00:24:29,492 --> 00:24:33,862
Now, Sadie... it said she died from
influenza, what were you able to find out?
405
00:24:33,863 --> 00:24:38,512
Well, I was able to obtain a
copy of the death certificate.
406
00:24:38,513 --> 00:24:42,317
And she obtained Spanish influenza
and had it for about a week,
407
00:24:42,318 --> 00:24:45,953
and then passed away of heart failure.
408
00:24:45,954 --> 00:24:50,445
Possibly, the reason they held the wake
in the house was to contain the influenza.
409
00:24:50,446 --> 00:24:53,148
She was young... 32.
So, she wasn't married?
410
00:24:53,149 --> 00:24:54,649
No, never married.
411
00:24:54,650 --> 00:24:56,402
- No children?
- No children.
412
00:24:56,403 --> 00:24:58,487
So, it had to be tough on
the parents, I would think.
413
00:24:58,488 --> 00:25:01,368
Probably was, yeah.
414
00:25:01,857 --> 00:25:04,497
[ Wind blowing ]
415
00:25:08,654 --> 00:25:13,399
Allan: Something took place here
where people were crying and...
416
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,620
Screaming.
417
00:25:16,505 --> 00:25:18,436
There was a funeral here.
418
00:25:18,437 --> 00:25:22,251
Where they had the
casket, and it was open,
419
00:25:22,252 --> 00:25:25,972
and people were saying goodbye.
420
00:25:27,550 --> 00:25:30,790
This is a young female.
421
00:25:31,321 --> 00:25:36,421
They're all crying,
freaking out, just losing it.
422
00:25:39,628 --> 00:25:42,530
So, Roland, what happened with
the parents after Sadie dies?
423
00:25:42,531 --> 00:25:44,332
They stayed in the home.
424
00:25:44,333 --> 00:25:45,894
Okay. So, she lived with her parents?
425
00:25:45,895 --> 00:25:48,856
Yes, and shortly after
Sadie passed away,
426
00:25:48,857 --> 00:25:53,575
the mother, Evelyn, was in frail health
for about five years and passed away.
427
00:25:53,576 --> 00:25:59,149
Steve, I was able to find the
obituary in the local newspaper on...
428
00:25:59,150 --> 00:26:01,490
Mrs. Smith.
429
00:26:02,185 --> 00:26:04,152
And how old was she when she died?
430
00:26:04,153 --> 00:26:05,519
She was 67.
431
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,489
Did she die of natural causes?
432
00:26:07,490 --> 00:26:09,305
Natural causes there, also...
433
00:26:09,306 --> 00:26:11,860
- From a heart disease.
- Okay.
434
00:26:11,861 --> 00:26:14,096
The funeral was not held
in that home, though.
435
00:26:14,097 --> 00:26:18,733
They went back to the homestead out
south of town and had her funeral there.
436
00:26:18,734 --> 00:26:20,768
So, Roland, what happened with the dad?
437
00:26:20,769 --> 00:26:25,173
His name was John Wallace Smith, and he
lived in the house for a few more years,
438
00:26:25,174 --> 00:26:29,965
and then he passed away, and I found
his obituary in the local paper, also.
439
00:26:29,966 --> 00:26:31,235
And what'd he die of?
440
00:26:31,236 --> 00:26:33,575
Natural causes from
a cerebral hemorrhage.
441
00:26:33,576 --> 00:26:36,385
So, Sadie dies, the mother
dies about five years later,
442
00:26:36,386 --> 00:26:40,088
and then the father dies a few years
after that, and they all died in the home?
443
00:26:40,089 --> 00:26:42,909
In the home, yes.
444
00:26:46,577 --> 00:26:50,453
So, I'm thinking the elderly man...
445
00:26:50,454 --> 00:26:53,944
Is mad that someone is in...
446
00:26:53,945 --> 00:26:56,106
His space.
447
00:26:56,107 --> 00:27:00,787
I think he spent a
lot of time down here.
448
00:27:01,112 --> 00:27:03,401
I'm following this angry
man around the basement
449
00:27:03,402 --> 00:27:07,582
as he vents to me about how much
he hates the people living here.
450
00:27:07,583 --> 00:27:12,287
Something tragic happened to him, and now
I'm experiencing all the pain he endured.
451
00:27:12,288 --> 00:27:17,568
Oh [Bleep] I'm getting a
really sharp [Bleep] pain.
452
00:27:17,593 --> 00:27:21,373
Ooh, what the [Bleep] was that?
453
00:27:22,059 --> 00:27:24,686
Then that pain, the head...
454
00:27:24,687 --> 00:27:28,107
That could be an aneurysm.
455
00:27:55,531 --> 00:27:58,327
Di Schiavi: Now that Amy and I
have completed our investigations,
456
00:27:58,328 --> 00:28:03,769
we're ready to reveal our findings to each
other and our clients for the first time.
457
00:28:03,770 --> 00:28:05,968
Amy, I want you to meet Amanda and Mike.
458
00:28:05,969 --> 00:28:10,865
Amanda called us in because she's had some
serious health issues since she moved in.
459
00:28:10,866 --> 00:28:15,134
She's even had a heart attack,
and she's only 32 years old.
460
00:28:15,135 --> 00:28:19,874
Doctors have no explanation for it, but
Amanda thinks she knows what's going on.
461
00:28:19,875 --> 00:28:22,791
She actually thinks that
this house is killing her.
462
00:28:22,792 --> 00:28:24,932
With that, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy,
463
00:28:24,933 --> 00:28:29,733
and she can start
telling us about her walk.
464
00:28:31,424 --> 00:28:34,325
Allan: So, I came into this room here,
465
00:28:34,326 --> 00:28:38,196
and I saw a funeral taking place,
466
00:28:38,197 --> 00:28:40,240
for a young female.
467
00:28:40,241 --> 00:28:44,211
There was a casket, it was open, and
people were saying their goodbyes.
468
00:28:44,212 --> 00:28:46,123
Well, there was a funeral in this home.
469
00:28:46,124 --> 00:28:50,027
Back in 1914, a girl, Sadie
Smith, moved here to this house.
470
00:28:50,028 --> 00:28:55,928
But four years after she moved in here,
in 1918, Sadie dies of the Spanish flu.
471
00:28:56,567 --> 00:28:59,727
The flu weakened her heart
until it just gave out.
472
00:28:59,728 --> 00:29:02,572
I have her death certificate here.
473
00:29:02,573 --> 00:29:05,876
They have here listed, heart failure.
474
00:29:05,877 --> 00:29:08,277
Amanda: Wow.
475
00:29:10,938 --> 00:29:14,962
Oh, my God. Is that her
birth date or her death date?
476
00:29:14,963 --> 00:29:16,186
Birth.
477
00:29:16,187 --> 00:29:19,847
It's three days off of mine.
478
00:29:20,614 --> 00:29:23,014
Oh, my God.
479
00:29:24,423 --> 00:29:27,303
That's just crazy.
480
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,832
What else did you see?
481
00:29:30,833 --> 00:29:34,881
I went to the basement,
and there's this...
482
00:29:34,882 --> 00:29:38,112
Very angry little old man down there.
483
00:29:38,113 --> 00:29:40,244
He believes that that's his space,
484
00:29:40,245 --> 00:29:45,451
and he despises whoever is
residing there right now.
485
00:29:45,452 --> 00:29:48,905
In fact, he's trying
to scare the person.
486
00:29:48,906 --> 00:29:52,562
Um, so that the person will leave.
487
00:29:52,563 --> 00:29:56,760
When I was talking to this guy, I
got this really sharp pain in my head.
488
00:29:56,761 --> 00:30:00,903
And I felt like he had
passed from an aneurysm.
489
00:30:00,904 --> 00:30:06,804
Now, Sadie's parents lived here, and
they actually both died in the house.
490
00:30:07,705 --> 00:30:12,203
The father, John, died at the
age of 73 of cerebral hemorrhage.
491
00:30:12,204 --> 00:30:14,724
Wow. Oh, wow.
492
00:30:15,146 --> 00:30:16,910
Mike: The tenant downstairs...
493
00:30:16,911 --> 00:30:19,402
He claims he's seen
some things down there.
494
00:30:19,403 --> 00:30:22,352
- Like what?
- Shadows, five to six times.
495
00:30:22,353 --> 00:30:27,023
He's told me one time that he actually
sees a man standing in the doorway here.
496
00:30:27,024 --> 00:30:28,031
Okay.
497
00:30:28,032 --> 00:30:31,754
You know what? Tell Amy about
the apparition that you saw.
498
00:30:31,755 --> 00:30:33,596
Amanda: I was in the laundry room,
499
00:30:33,597 --> 00:30:38,028
and I was just grabbing something out
of the cabinet, and I turned around,
500
00:30:38,029 --> 00:30:41,737
and there was a man
standing right next to me.
501
00:30:41,738 --> 00:30:44,576
I jumped and screamed,
and then he disappeared.
502
00:30:44,577 --> 00:30:48,511
- What was he wearing?
- A button-down shirt, and...
503
00:30:48,512 --> 00:30:50,921
- He had a five o'clock shadow.
- Okay.
504
00:30:50,922 --> 00:30:52,637
And dark hair.
505
00:30:52,638 --> 00:30:57,524
I briefly encountered another
male back in that area.
506
00:30:57,525 --> 00:30:59,159
Oh, my God.
507
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,996
And I did do a sketch of the man.
508
00:31:02,997 --> 00:31:05,867
[ Echoing ] He's in his early 70s...
509
00:31:05,868 --> 00:31:08,808
He does have jowls.
510
00:31:09,077 --> 00:31:13,217
And his eyes are very almond-shaped.
511
00:31:16,311 --> 00:31:20,165
Di Schiavi: Well, you tell
me. You would know better.
512
00:31:20,166 --> 00:31:22,566
Oh, my God.
513
00:31:25,266 --> 00:31:28,626
It looks a lot like him.
514
00:31:29,156 --> 00:31:31,012
I'll never forget him.
515
00:31:31,013 --> 00:31:34,553
He was looking right at me.
516
00:31:35,121 --> 00:31:38,922
He was just confused, so
he just gets frustrated.
517
00:31:38,923 --> 00:31:41,213
- Do you ever hear banging or anything?
- All the time.
518
00:31:41,214 --> 00:31:44,454
- All the time.
- Okay.
519
00:31:45,124 --> 00:31:47,608
So, what else did you see?
520
00:31:47,609 --> 00:31:50,780
In my opening, what
I saw was actually...
521
00:31:50,781 --> 00:31:54,921
This house surrounded by thick trees.
522
00:31:55,154 --> 00:31:58,785
I was shocked, because, obviously,
there's no trees. It's all houses.
523
00:31:58,786 --> 00:32:01,801
And then when I went in the
backyard, I heard an old lady.
524
00:32:01,802 --> 00:32:05,896
She was agitated that the
trees had been removed.
525
00:32:05,897 --> 00:32:10,397
Well, it makes sense you said that, because
this was owned by a guy named Isaac Swain.
526
00:32:10,398 --> 00:32:13,665
Back in the 1800s, he
purchased the property here.
527
00:32:13,666 --> 00:32:16,606
This was all woods.
528
00:32:17,972 --> 00:32:23,076
He came here, he bought the
property, and he opened up a mill.
529
00:32:23,077 --> 00:32:27,648
He made a lot of money, but he also
had a lot of tragedy with his family.
530
00:32:27,649 --> 00:32:29,182
Oh.
531
00:32:29,183 --> 00:32:31,043
Wow.
532
00:32:31,427 --> 00:32:34,288
I saw this little girl.
533
00:32:34,289 --> 00:32:37,556
- She's the most important person here.
- Mm-hmm.
534
00:32:37,557 --> 00:32:41,306
She kind of controls or
runs most of the house.
535
00:32:41,307 --> 00:32:45,832
She's between 10 and 12, and she's
been here for a very long time...
536
00:32:45,833 --> 00:32:48,064
At least over 100 years.
537
00:32:48,065 --> 00:32:49,952
But she's in a lot pain.
538
00:32:49,953 --> 00:32:53,940
Because she was in some
kind of weird accident.
539
00:32:53,941 --> 00:32:58,201
And, mentally, she's not who she was.
540
00:32:58,493 --> 00:33:01,644
She wasn't allowed to play.
She wasn't allowed to do things.
541
00:33:01,645 --> 00:33:04,828
She wasn't really allowed
to interact with people.
542
00:33:04,829 --> 00:33:07,824
Well, I didn't have to
think much about this one.
543
00:33:07,825 --> 00:33:10,719
Isaac Swain had a daughter, Louisa.
544
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,386
Between the ages of 10 and 14,
she actually hit her head...
545
00:33:15,387 --> 00:33:17,159
- And soon after that...
- Oh, man.
546
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,034
- She became mentally incapacitated.
- Oh.
547
00:33:21,035 --> 00:33:25,952
She basically couldn't care for herself.
She had to have care all the time.
548
00:33:25,953 --> 00:33:30,587
The thing is, she had two
siblings, both of which passed away.
549
00:33:30,588 --> 00:33:32,312
Whoa. What?
550
00:33:32,313 --> 00:33:35,481
One was Martha. She
died at the age of 15.
551
00:33:35,482 --> 00:33:39,152
And she had a younger brother,
William, who died at 3 in 1849.
552
00:33:39,153 --> 00:33:40,588
Wow.
553
00:33:40,589 --> 00:33:43,729
Things got worse for
her, because her mom...
554
00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:47,473
This is Vallonia...
she got sick, very sick.
555
00:33:47,474 --> 00:33:51,431
Her husband took her on a 3-year
journey all around the northeast,
556
00:33:51,432 --> 00:33:56,603
the East Coast, looking for help,
searching for a cure for her.
557
00:33:56,604 --> 00:34:01,610
This kid was left alone
at the house with nurses.
558
00:34:01,611 --> 00:34:03,546
You know, she lived
the rest of her life...
559
00:34:03,547 --> 00:34:05,553
As an invalid.
560
00:34:05,554 --> 00:34:10,650
What I got was that she does affect
everyone in the house to some extent.
561
00:34:10,651 --> 00:34:13,646
She can make people overeat...
562
00:34:13,647 --> 00:34:18,627
She can drain energy,
make people feel agitated.
563
00:34:18,666 --> 00:34:20,510
- Oh, my God.
- She affects sleep...
564
00:34:20,511 --> 00:34:25,198
Can make people have terrible
dreams, or sleepwalk, which is big.
565
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,168
She climbs into bed with them,
566
00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:30,504
and she can jump inside
that person and control them.
567
00:34:30,505 --> 00:34:33,496
- Oh, my God.
- She affects everyone, but she...
568
00:34:33,497 --> 00:34:39,397
Has her sights set on one person
in this house in particular.
569
00:34:39,616 --> 00:34:43,528
She stays by this person all the time.
570
00:34:43,529 --> 00:34:45,389
Wow.
571
00:34:46,034 --> 00:34:48,727
Yeah, it's definitely me.
572
00:34:48,728 --> 00:34:52,378
One time, I got up to
go to the bathroom...
573
00:34:52,379 --> 00:34:55,124
And the next thing I knew,
574
00:34:55,125 --> 00:34:58,679
I was spinning a knife on the counter.
575
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,635
I didn't know I was doing
it. It was, like, not me.
576
00:35:01,636 --> 00:35:07,001
All I could think was, I
should just get it over with.
577
00:35:07,002 --> 00:35:12,522
I'm gonna die anyway. I
should just get it over with.
578
00:35:13,271 --> 00:35:15,415
- And you mentioned agitated?
- Mm-hmm.
579
00:35:15,416 --> 00:35:17,409
Well, Mike's having issues.
580
00:35:17,410 --> 00:35:20,694
Yeah. I get mad at the littlest things.
581
00:35:20,695 --> 00:35:26,460
I've been mad at her for no reason, and
then I'll go outside, and my rage is gone.
582
00:35:26,461 --> 00:35:30,078
She's trying to control you both.
583
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:32,479
Oh, my God.
584
00:35:32,533 --> 00:35:35,953
Now, she's been scratched.
585
00:35:38,115 --> 00:35:39,975
Wow.
586
00:35:41,483 --> 00:35:45,011
That's her neck. That's
one of the scratch marks.
587
00:35:45,012 --> 00:35:47,914
And she's had them on her
stomach, on the side there.
588
00:35:47,915 --> 00:35:50,851
- Okay.
- And this is a burn mark, she thinks.
589
00:35:50,852 --> 00:35:52,819
Can that be from the little girl?
590
00:35:52,820 --> 00:35:57,999
Yeah. Well, she's always holding
on, touching you constantly.
591
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,541
Is that who was crawling
in the bed with him?
592
00:36:00,542 --> 00:36:03,656
Oh, she likes to do that.
593
00:36:03,657 --> 00:36:09,503
So, I did a sketch of this little girl
and the person that she's focused on.
594
00:36:09,504 --> 00:36:11,424
Okay.
595
00:36:17,748 --> 00:36:20,268
Jesus [Bleep].
596
00:36:25,401 --> 00:36:27,261
Wow.
597
00:36:27,733 --> 00:36:30,133
Oh, my God.
598
00:36:30,276 --> 00:36:33,576
So, she's always by me?
599
00:36:35,104 --> 00:36:37,384
Holy crap.
600
00:36:54,946 --> 00:37:00,418
I did a sketch of this little girl
and the person that she's focused on.
601
00:37:00,419 --> 00:37:02,339
Okay.
602
00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:11,347
Jesus [Bleep].
603
00:37:16,628 --> 00:37:18,488
Wow.
604
00:37:18,907 --> 00:37:21,307
Oh, my God.
605
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,820
So, she's always by me?
606
00:37:26,308 --> 00:37:28,588
Holy crap.
607
00:37:41,562 --> 00:37:44,452
She's extremely powerful.
608
00:37:44,453 --> 00:37:47,794
At one point, she charged me and took...
609
00:37:47,795 --> 00:37:51,995
All of my energy, like, in a second.
610
00:37:52,552 --> 00:37:58,452
Then I saw a very disturbing scene in
the upstairs bedroom with the two beds.
611
00:37:58,701 --> 00:38:02,421
You could feel this jealousy...
612
00:38:02,628 --> 00:38:06,337
That she had for the
people in that room.
613
00:38:06,338 --> 00:38:11,138
And her intention was
to murder those people.
614
00:38:12,675 --> 00:38:17,175
And those thoughts
were being put into...
615
00:38:17,606 --> 00:38:19,274
The person's mind.
616
00:38:19,275 --> 00:38:21,391
What person are you talking about?
617
00:38:21,392 --> 00:38:24,392
Well, basically, you.
618
00:38:25,801 --> 00:38:30,241
You would be her vessel to do the deed.
619
00:38:30,278 --> 00:38:36,178
She wants to get to the point where she can
control you 100% so that you'll do this.
620
00:38:36,194 --> 00:38:37,823
You okay?
621
00:38:37,824 --> 00:38:39,624
No.
622
00:38:39,899 --> 00:38:42,239
Not really.
623
00:38:42,843 --> 00:38:48,123
Well, that room upstairs
is where Mike's kids stay.
624
00:38:56,966 --> 00:38:59,306
[ Sniffles ]
625
00:38:59,819 --> 00:39:03,974
I thought something was
attached to me. I did.
626
00:39:03,975 --> 00:39:09,256
Mike: We've had some conversations where
she's thought that my son hated her.
627
00:39:09,257 --> 00:39:11,892
And she seemed a little jealous...
628
00:39:11,893 --> 00:39:14,443
- Hmm...
- Of the kids being here.
629
00:39:14,444 --> 00:39:16,071
Makes a lot of sense.
630
00:39:16,072 --> 00:39:18,638
Now, do you remember
feeling this jealousy?
631
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:22,456
Oh, yeah. When they're here,
all his time goes to them.
632
00:39:22,457 --> 00:39:25,711
Mike: When they're here, I split my time
as best I can between all three of them.
633
00:39:25,712 --> 00:39:27,854
- Mm-hmm.
- But she never sees it that way.
634
00:39:27,855 --> 00:39:32,895
- Now, is that the girl doing it to her?
- Yes.
635
00:39:34,407 --> 00:39:39,056
Obviously, this is a lot
to absorb in one night.
636
00:39:39,057 --> 00:39:42,140
The big question... is it
safe for you guys to live here?
637
00:39:42,141 --> 00:39:44,445
Is it safe for the kids to come here?
638
00:39:44,446 --> 00:39:46,447
And will you be able to get better?
639
00:39:46,448 --> 00:39:51,907
I can't answer that, but I'll turn it over
to Amy, my partner, and see if she can.
640
00:39:51,908 --> 00:39:57,808
There's obviously some things that need
to be done to protect everybody involved.
641
00:39:58,127 --> 00:40:04,027
Some of these things initially might
sound a little bit unusual and extreme.
642
00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:06,820
Okay.
643
00:40:06,915 --> 00:40:12,154
One of the things that I would suggest at
this point is to go through your bedroom
644
00:40:12,155 --> 00:40:16,355
and make it like a child-proof room.
645
00:40:16,987 --> 00:40:22,887
And Mike needs to sleep right outside
your room, and this is just to protect you.
646
00:40:23,467 --> 00:40:28,656
So, why is it so important that
he not sleep in there with me?
647
00:40:28,657 --> 00:40:33,962
Well, I don't want anybody in
this situation to be harmed.
648
00:40:33,963 --> 00:40:38,403
And at this point, she could harm you...
649
00:40:39,395 --> 00:40:43,235
Or she could harm somebody else.
650
00:40:45,076 --> 00:40:50,976
The next thing that needs to be done
is that there has to be an exorcism.
651
00:40:53,432 --> 00:40:54,196
Really?
652
00:40:54,197 --> 00:40:56,484
That's the only way you're
gonna get rid of her.
653
00:40:56,485 --> 00:40:58,705
Oh, geez.
654
00:41:00,856 --> 00:41:04,114
- That was our nightmare scenario.
- Mike: Mm-hmm.
655
00:41:04,115 --> 00:41:07,799
Now, why an exorcism instead
of trying to move somebody on?
656
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,764
She's just beyond repair.
657
00:41:09,765 --> 00:41:12,672
She's done many, many, many bad things.
658
00:41:12,673 --> 00:41:14,085
She needs to be straightened out.
659
00:41:14,086 --> 00:41:19,666
Right. I would just go to
the church and ask for help.
660
00:41:23,507 --> 00:41:28,538
Look me in the eye and tell
me you're gonna do this.
661
00:41:28,539 --> 00:41:30,737
I'm gonna do it.
662
00:41:30,738 --> 00:41:34,583
My own life has already
been taken from me.
663
00:41:34,584 --> 00:41:39,313
And I don't want any more harm
to come to me or anyone else.
664
00:41:39,314 --> 00:41:41,133
Mm-hmm.
665
00:41:41,134 --> 00:41:44,014
Thank you so much.
666
00:41:46,501 --> 00:41:48,938
Allan: I really hope Amanda
and Mike follow my advice
667
00:41:48,939 --> 00:41:53,041
and rid their home of the little
girl that's tormenting them.
668
00:41:53,042 --> 00:41:54,788
Once she's gone,
669
00:41:54,789 --> 00:41:57,980
I believe all the negativity
surrounding this family should vanish.
670
00:41:57,981 --> 00:42:00,657
And they can live a peaceful life.
671
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