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[electronic music]
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- * MTV
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[VCR clicks]
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[soft music]
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*
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- We shouldn't concentrate too
much on superstar, you know?
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*
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It's a very dangerous thing
to talk about.
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*
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I know--I know a lot
of superstars...
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- Yeah.
- And I look back
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and I see--I don't see them
now, you know?
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So the same could
happen with us.
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* Girl, you know it,
girl, you know it *
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* Girl, you know it's true
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[dramatic music]
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[cheers and applause]
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- Milli Vanilli,
the striking European duo,
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has made it big in America.
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- First album went six times
platinum in 1989.
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- It's quite a weird story.
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One minute,
Milli Vanilli were there...
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- Milli Vanilli.
- Milli Vanilli.
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- Milli--
- Milli--
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- Milli--
- Vanilli!
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- And the next minute,
they weren't.
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- [laughs]
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*
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- New weasel boys of
the record world.
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- Everybody participated,
but they were the scapegoats.
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- Record companies are oddly
silent on the whole issue.
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- People don't understand
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the machine that is
underneath a pop act.
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- We want to say thank you
to our producer.
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- The evil genius,
I guess we could call him.
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- If it wasn't for him,
this would not even take place.
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- You get something,
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but for that, you make
a pact with the devil.
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*
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- Imagine you have
everything...
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[crowd screaming]
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- The fame, the fortune.
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They were in a dream.
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- And suddenly,
everybody turns against you
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and you have nothing.
Overnight.
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[indistinct shouting]
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How do you handle that?
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- It cost them everything.
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- There is not another story
like this
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in pop music history.
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*
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- It's been a while.
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Oh!
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Yeah, man, we were
young and fresh, man.
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That's a normal tank top but
I think he just pulled on it.
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You know, I mean,
we were fashion forward.
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[laughs]
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That was a big show in Germany.
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Yeah, that was a cool vibe.
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Hmm.
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You know, Rob Pilatus doesn't
look right in this photo.
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I can see the decline.
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'Cause that's not
what Rob looked like
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or was supposed to look like.
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He was extremely strong,
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but you can tell that
life took a toll on him.
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[soft music]
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*
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Becoming friends
was inevitable.
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*
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I grew up in Paris.
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*
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When I turned 18,
I went to Munich, Germany,
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ran out of money,
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ended up being homeless for
a couple weeks.
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It was cold so I had to
sleep in the train station,
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but I was able to
get some jobs
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teaching classes
with dance school,
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'cause that was my background
in Paris.
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And then one day,
I went to a party in Munich
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and there he was,
Mr. Rob Pilatus.
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[hip-hop music]
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He was a break-dancer.
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He was onstage
doing the helicopter.
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*
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At the end,
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when everybody gave him
his props and everything,
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he saw me and he was like,
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"Who the hell are you?
That's my turf!"
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Because there were not
many Black people
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in Munich at the time.
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[soft hip-hop music]
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Rob and I were the only
dark-skinned people.
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There were none.
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Rob was older than me
by two years.
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He had an infectious laugh--
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[imitating laugh]
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Like, really loud, you know?
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I was socially awkward.
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You know, I was shy and
I was not fluent in German.
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It was like big brother,
little brother.
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*
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He became my best friend.
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But I felt like there was
something inside of him
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that was--that was missing.
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[soft music]
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- Every time we talked about
that period of his life,
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it was kind of like taboo,
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but I understood his pain.
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Growing up, my family
was so dysfunctional.
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It was an abusive environment,
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and I ran away.
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So, just like me,
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he was looking for a family.
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[soft determined music]
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We moved in together in
an attic of a friend of his.
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Rob would take the bed,
I would take the sofa.
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But there was, like,
a stereo system,
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and that thing was on all day.
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[grungy hip-hop music]
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Music always
pulled us together.
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*
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We both liked dancing,
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we were very social people,
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so we started throwing
parties together.
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[upbeat music]
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And they were packed.
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The girls were beautiful.
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You know, we had a DJ,
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and we brought the vibe.
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*
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You know, a circle
would be happening.
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Rob doing break dancing,
and when he was done,
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I would come in
and I would pop, lock,
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bam, bam, bam!
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And it brought
a lot of attention.
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So we started doing shows
in this club, Piantz.
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We loved to entertain
people, like,
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make people like, "Aw, yeah!"
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We loved that energy,
that roar,
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and we wanna do more of this.
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And the dream was to do
what we did in the club,
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sing, perform, live the life,
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to become the biggest pop stars
in the world!
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- * Hot girl, hot girl
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* I'm satisfaction, baby
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* Hot girl, hot girl
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- We started dancing
for this TV show.
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- * Hot girl
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We danced behind pop stars
of the '80s.
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We ended up modeling as well.
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*
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We did some catalog.
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We were making a lot of noise
in Munich at that time,
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but it was like, how do
we get to the next level?
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[upbeat curious music]
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In order to become pop stars,
we had to have the look,
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so we had to study
what makes a superstar.
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And one thing we noticed was
the hair.
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*
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I know Elvis' hair.
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I know Bob Marley's hair.
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Marilyn Monroe.
Michael Jackson.
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You could put, like, a shadow,
and you knew who that was.
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We were like,
"Hell yeah, we're doing this."
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And the hair came...
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[snaps]
Like that.
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Hoo!
The reactions were amazing.
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Every time we went to
the clubs,
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girls loved the hair,
loved the clothing--
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they loved Rob and Fab.
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- * Go to the dance floor,
dansez *
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* Voulez vous, dansez
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- We put a band together,
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Empire Bizarre...
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- * Hey
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- And we played a few gigs.
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We gave tapes to people.
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We knew we were gonna be big.
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- * Dansez
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- Since we were
spreading the word
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of us getting into
the music industry,
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we were starting to
get approached by people.
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[soft music]
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So one day, this guy came to
Rob and said, "Hey, you know,
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we're gonna connect you with
Frank Farian."
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*
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Rob played cool to the dude,
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but to me, he was like,
"Oh, my God!
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Oh, Frank Farian!
You know this?" I didn't know.
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*
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Rob told me,
"Hey, Frank Farian,
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he did Boney M."
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I was like,
"Oh, wow, that's--that's big"
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because Boney M., obviously,
was a huge group.
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[Boney M's "Rasputin"
playing]
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*
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- * There lived a certain man
in Russia long ago *
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- * He was big and strong,
in his eyes a flaming glow *
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- Boney M. were a big hit
disco group in the '70s...
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- Boney M.!
[cheers and applause]
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- And they were huge worldwide.
- Huge!
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- * He could preach the Bible
like a preacher *
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* Full of ecstasy
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- Boney M. sold 80 million
records.
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They had a number of
number one hits.
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- "Rivers of Babylon."
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- "Daddy Cool."
- "Sunny."
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- I love the song "Ma Baker."
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- Ra, ra, Rasputin.
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- * Ra, ra, Rasputin,
lover of the Russian queen *
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- A bananas song
and it's about Rasputin.
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- Mysterious figure
in czarist Russia.
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- When you watch video
of Boney M.
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and you see Bobby Farrell,
you're like,
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"Wow, that dude is awesome."
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- It was on the radio,
at parties.
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- Boney M. made music that
you could dance to
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and get drunk to and have fun.
[laughs]
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- But how did you four people
get together to form Boney M.?
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- Well, it all came about from
our producer Frank Farian.
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[soft tense music]
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- If you work with
Frank Farian,
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that's a high level guy.
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We realized that this could be
the one we've been waiting for,
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so we went to Frankfurt.
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*
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Frank Farian's
compound was huge.
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And when they opened the door,
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we were greeted by all those
gold records on the wall,
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and it was amazing.
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It was the kind of stuff that
you saw with Quincy Jones.
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*
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100 tracks, Neve console,
microphones.
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It was incredible!
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Frank and his secretary,
Ingrid Segieth,
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they said,
"We're working on a project
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and we're thinking that
you could be good for it,"
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if we were interested.
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Hell, yeah, we were interested.
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Ingrid brought in
the recording contract,
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and we never really
attempted to read it.
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We were not trying to say no
to this powerful producer.
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Also, we would get, like,
1,500 deutschmark each,
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and we were like,
"Oh, hell yeah. Where? OK."
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[suspicious music]
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When we signed that contract,
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we toasted.
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*
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We were, like, breaking bread.
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*
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But then Frank leaned over
to Rob and told him,
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"Don't fuck with me.
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Don't ever fuck with me."
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[soft curious music]
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*
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Several months went by.
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They never gave us
any information.
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That was driving us crazy.
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Like, why don't
they tell us, like,
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00:14:27,610 --> 00:14:30,981
a date where we can come
to do the vocals,
262
00:14:31,081 --> 00:14:34,017
or like, when do
we get started?
263
00:14:34,117 --> 00:14:37,053
*
264
00:14:37,153 --> 00:14:39,655
Finally, Ingrid called.
265
00:14:39,755 --> 00:14:42,392
"Come to studio.
It's gonna be good."
266
00:14:42,492 --> 00:14:45,395
Oh, man, we were pumped.
267
00:14:45,495 --> 00:14:48,864
We went straight to
the studio.
268
00:14:48,965 --> 00:14:51,901
And then once everyone is
in the room,
269
00:14:52,002 --> 00:14:53,903
he plays a tune.
270
00:14:54,004 --> 00:14:56,106
[machine clicks]
271
00:14:56,206 --> 00:14:59,009
["Girl You Know It's True"
playing]
272
00:14:59,109 --> 00:15:04,280
*
273
00:15:04,380 --> 00:15:08,684
I couldn't believe that
this music was for us.
274
00:15:08,784 --> 00:15:14,124
*
275
00:15:14,224 --> 00:15:15,325
I saw colors.
276
00:15:15,425 --> 00:15:18,194
I saw us onstage
277
00:15:18,294 --> 00:15:20,796
singing in front of a crowd.
278
00:15:20,896 --> 00:15:22,532
And then when
the music stopped...
279
00:15:22,632 --> 00:15:25,235
[music stops]
It was like, wow.
280
00:15:25,335 --> 00:15:27,370
You could still
hear those bells--
281
00:15:27,470 --> 00:15:29,939
ding, ding, ding, ding.
282
00:15:32,175 --> 00:15:35,411
He turned, and then,
283
00:15:35,511 --> 00:15:38,381
you know, "folgen Sie mir."
You know, "follow me."
284
00:15:38,481 --> 00:15:40,850
[soft tense music]
285
00:15:40,950 --> 00:15:42,052
- [speaking German]
286
00:15:42,152 --> 00:15:43,253
- It felt serious.
287
00:15:43,353 --> 00:15:45,555
*
288
00:15:45,655 --> 00:15:48,691
And then we end up
in this dark room.
289
00:15:48,791 --> 00:15:52,362
Rob and Frank start talking
really fast in German,
290
00:15:52,462 --> 00:15:54,830
so I can't really understand
everything,
291
00:15:54,930 --> 00:15:57,500
but I can tell, like,
it's getting intense.
292
00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,036
Like, they raise their voices.
293
00:16:00,136 --> 00:16:02,405
Rob is looking at me with
his green eyes.
294
00:16:02,505 --> 00:16:03,973
Like, he looks pissed.
295
00:16:04,074 --> 00:16:05,641
*
296
00:16:05,741 --> 00:16:08,878
Frank leaves and screams,
297
00:16:08,978 --> 00:16:11,647
and then Rob turns to me,
saying,
298
00:16:11,747 --> 00:16:14,350
"They don't want us to sing
on this record."
299
00:16:14,450 --> 00:16:16,352
And I'm like, like--
300
00:16:16,452 --> 00:16:18,288
So, I'm trying to speak.
301
00:16:18,388 --> 00:16:19,422
I'm trying to talk to him
302
00:16:19,522 --> 00:16:20,790
and trying to get
as much information,
303
00:16:20,890 --> 00:16:22,625
but he was like,
"Just wait, wait.
304
00:16:22,725 --> 00:16:24,827
"They don't want us to sing!
305
00:16:24,927 --> 00:16:27,163
They want us to
lip-sync the song."
306
00:16:27,263 --> 00:16:28,631
I'm like, "What?"
307
00:16:28,731 --> 00:16:31,601
Why in the hell?
Like, he's playing us a song.
308
00:16:31,701 --> 00:16:34,270
I'm trying to understand,
like, what do you mean?
309
00:16:34,370 --> 00:16:35,838
I don't get it.
310
00:16:35,938 --> 00:16:37,973
And that's where I--I--
I black out.
311
00:16:38,074 --> 00:16:40,576
[music fades out]
312
00:16:40,676 --> 00:16:42,978
[soft suspicious music]
313
00:16:43,079 --> 00:16:45,181
I remember thinking,
"This is weird.
314
00:16:45,281 --> 00:16:47,783
Like, we don't want to
lip-sync."
315
00:16:47,883 --> 00:16:52,488
That's when Ingrid
gave us the options.
316
00:16:54,090 --> 00:16:58,528
What she conveyed to us
clearly is that
317
00:16:58,628 --> 00:17:02,565
we signed the contract,
we got money--
318
00:17:02,665 --> 00:17:05,935
if we didn't want to
take part,
319
00:17:06,035 --> 00:17:08,304
we have to pay them back.
320
00:17:08,404 --> 00:17:09,972
But Ingrid said,
321
00:17:10,072 --> 00:17:13,075
"It's not just the advance
that we paid you,
322
00:17:13,176 --> 00:17:15,077
"but also all the money that
we gave you
323
00:17:15,178 --> 00:17:17,447
through the months."
324
00:17:17,547 --> 00:17:20,015
We developed a debt
towards Frank Farian.
325
00:17:20,116 --> 00:17:22,352
*
326
00:17:22,452 --> 00:17:24,920
We were scared as hell.
327
00:17:25,020 --> 00:17:28,424
I was 21 years old
and Rob was 24.
328
00:17:28,524 --> 00:17:32,094
*
329
00:17:32,195 --> 00:17:34,630
We had nowhere to go.
330
00:17:34,730 --> 00:17:37,567
So we thought,
OK, it's one song.
331
00:17:37,667 --> 00:17:39,869
You do that and you're out.
332
00:17:39,969 --> 00:17:44,740
[water rushing]
333
00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,843
[Boney M's "Sunny" playing]
334
00:17:47,943 --> 00:17:54,917
*
335
00:17:56,619 --> 00:17:59,589
- * Sunny
336
00:17:59,689 --> 00:18:04,427
* Yesterday, my life was
filled with rain *
337
00:18:04,527 --> 00:18:07,096
* Sunny
338
00:18:07,197 --> 00:18:12,168
* You smiled at me and
really eased the pain *
339
00:18:12,268 --> 00:18:13,469
* Sunny
340
00:18:13,569 --> 00:18:20,510
*
341
00:18:22,578 --> 00:18:25,415
- Hold on.
[chuckles]
342
00:18:25,515 --> 00:18:28,818
I should not be so funny.
343
00:18:28,918 --> 00:18:31,086
Serious.
344
00:18:31,187 --> 00:18:34,123
[laughs]
345
00:18:34,224 --> 00:18:36,158
This is serious.
346
00:18:36,259 --> 00:18:38,761
Thank you, schatzi.
[kisses]
347
00:18:39,962 --> 00:18:41,364
- Interview, "Milli."
Take one.
348
00:18:41,464 --> 00:18:43,566
Camera A and B, mark.
349
00:18:43,666 --> 00:18:46,202
- I've heard that
the name Milli Vanilli
350
00:18:46,302 --> 00:18:47,770
is because of you.
351
00:18:47,870 --> 00:18:49,272
- Oh.
- Is that true?
352
00:18:49,372 --> 00:18:50,540
- That's true.
353
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,708
[soft music]
354
00:18:52,808 --> 00:18:54,910
I was Frank's girlfriend.
355
00:19:07,557 --> 00:19:11,026
I wrote the checks because
I was the financial controller
356
00:19:11,126 --> 00:19:13,596
of Frank's company.
357
00:19:19,435 --> 00:19:20,736
When they came into
the studio,
358
00:19:20,836 --> 00:19:23,038
they looked fantastic.
359
00:19:23,138 --> 00:19:26,175
I never saw people like that
so well-dressed
360
00:19:26,276 --> 00:19:27,877
and good-looking and braids,
361
00:19:27,977 --> 00:19:30,546
and Rob's eyes, green--
[gasps]
362
00:19:30,646 --> 00:19:32,348
You couldn't stop
looking at him.
363
00:19:32,448 --> 00:19:34,584
*
364
00:19:47,530 --> 00:19:50,800
But they were
such good dancers.
365
00:20:01,611 --> 00:20:03,813
- Frank needed American singer
like me.
366
00:20:03,913 --> 00:20:05,348
He said,
"I'm gonna make a project
367
00:20:05,448 --> 00:20:07,317
and you'll be the lead singer."
368
00:20:07,417 --> 00:20:08,951
I said, "OK, let's do it."
369
00:20:14,357 --> 00:20:16,426
- I'm from Houston, Texas.
370
00:20:16,526 --> 00:20:18,294
Frank says,
"I have a new project.
371
00:20:18,394 --> 00:20:19,529
Can you rap it?"
372
00:20:19,629 --> 00:20:22,432
He wrote me a check
for $12,000.
373
00:20:22,532 --> 00:20:24,300
Just keep your mouth shut.
374
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,670
- Frank said, "Linda, we're
gonna need backing vocalists."
375
00:20:27,770 --> 00:20:29,305
So I brought in
my twin sister Jodie.
376
00:20:29,405 --> 00:20:31,106
- And I looked at her, I said,
"If this is 'oohs' and 'ahs'
377
00:20:31,206 --> 00:20:33,343
and 'I love you,'
I'm gonna shoot you."
378
00:20:33,443 --> 00:20:34,610
- I said, "Shut up."
379
00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:36,379
He hits it, he says,
"I want you to sing this."
380
00:20:36,479 --> 00:20:37,980
both: * Ooh, ooh, ooh
381
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,148
- * I love you
- I said, "Don't say it!"
382
00:20:39,248 --> 00:20:40,850
[suspicious music]
383
00:20:48,290 --> 00:20:52,362
The song is ready,
and the two guys--perfect.
384
00:20:52,462 --> 00:20:55,598
*
385
00:20:55,698 --> 00:20:57,633
- When they're told
they're gonna lip-sync,
386
00:20:57,733 --> 00:20:59,234
what's their reaction?
387
00:20:59,335 --> 00:21:00,703
- No problem at all.
388
00:21:00,803 --> 00:21:04,674
They agreed and said,
"OK, when can we start?"
389
00:21:04,774 --> 00:21:07,343
It was never an--an--
an argument.
390
00:21:07,443 --> 00:21:09,779
Never ever. Never!
391
00:21:09,879 --> 00:21:13,082
- So you didn't have to
convince them to lip-sync?
392
00:21:13,182 --> 00:21:14,684
- No! Why?
393
00:21:14,784 --> 00:21:17,353
[soft dark music]
394
00:21:17,453 --> 00:21:19,121
They want to have success
and...
395
00:21:27,663 --> 00:21:30,666
- Was there ever
a point you said,
396
00:21:30,766 --> 00:21:33,202
give us the advance back
that we gave you.
397
00:21:33,302 --> 00:21:34,504
- [sigh] Gosh.
No.
398
00:21:34,604 --> 00:21:35,705
- No?
- No.
399
00:21:35,805 --> 00:21:37,740
- You didn't ask--
- No, no, no.
400
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,311
This is not Frank's art--
artwork, yeah.
401
00:21:42,412 --> 00:21:44,947
If they would refuse,
they can go back to Munich
402
00:21:45,047 --> 00:21:46,682
and can...
[flaps lips]
403
00:21:46,782 --> 00:21:48,350
go for...
404
00:21:49,452 --> 00:21:51,086
or something like that.
405
00:21:51,186 --> 00:21:52,688
[chuckles softly]
406
00:21:52,788 --> 00:21:57,793
*
407
00:21:57,893 --> 00:22:00,029
- Well, I, uh...
[clears throat]
408
00:22:00,129 --> 00:22:05,701
The first time I went to share
my side, uh,
409
00:22:05,801 --> 00:22:07,036
I was young.
410
00:22:07,136 --> 00:22:10,305
And if you're a young artist,
411
00:22:10,406 --> 00:22:14,877
you can only tell what
they want you to tell.
412
00:22:14,977 --> 00:22:17,580
But now, fuck it.
413
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,114
[laughs]
414
00:22:19,214 --> 00:22:22,184
I ain't keeping
my mouth shut for nobody.
415
00:22:22,284 --> 00:22:23,919
*
416
00:22:24,019 --> 00:22:28,658
Frank Farian, he was just a--
417
00:22:28,758 --> 00:22:34,263
a genius of his art
of making money.
418
00:22:34,363 --> 00:22:37,967
He knew exactly
what he was doing.
419
00:22:38,067 --> 00:22:40,536
You know,
it's not the first time.
420
00:22:40,636 --> 00:22:43,138
The same game was played with
Boney M.
421
00:22:43,238 --> 00:22:46,609
*
422
00:22:46,709 --> 00:22:50,580
Bobby was not a singer.
423
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,747
He was a dancer.
424
00:22:51,847 --> 00:22:54,650
*
425
00:22:54,750 --> 00:22:56,351
He was a dancer.
426
00:23:03,425 --> 00:23:05,127
- And who sung?
427
00:23:05,227 --> 00:23:05,961
Frank.
428
00:23:06,061 --> 00:23:11,534
- [distorted vocals]
429
00:23:11,634 --> 00:23:14,169
- And it sold
430
00:23:14,269 --> 00:23:16,071
how many platinums,
how many golds,
431
00:23:16,171 --> 00:23:17,439
you know what I'm saying?
432
00:23:25,515 --> 00:23:29,018
- You're looking at him as
a producer
433
00:23:29,118 --> 00:23:32,855
that made most his money
on Black artists,
434
00:23:32,955 --> 00:23:34,890
and it worked.
435
00:23:34,990 --> 00:23:36,692
Then years later, he came back
436
00:23:36,792 --> 00:23:39,829
and did it again
with Milli Vanilli.
437
00:23:39,929 --> 00:23:43,265
*
438
00:23:43,365 --> 00:23:45,568
He took my voice,
439
00:23:45,668 --> 00:23:49,739
he took their faces,
440
00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:53,008
he put the project together,
441
00:23:53,108 --> 00:23:56,411
he put it on the market,
442
00:23:56,512 --> 00:23:58,681
and he got rich off it.
443
00:23:58,781 --> 00:24:03,052
*
444
00:24:03,152 --> 00:24:06,088
- Milli Vanilli was delivered
by Frank Farian,
445
00:24:06,188 --> 00:24:08,958
and we were the distributor.
446
00:24:09,058 --> 00:24:13,896
We only saw the pictures of
the both guys and the song.
447
00:24:15,865 --> 00:24:17,366
Was nice-looking guys.
448
00:24:17,466 --> 00:24:20,302
Internationally, they could be
sold because they were colored
449
00:24:20,402 --> 00:24:22,838
and everything was--every--
it fits together.
450
00:24:22,938 --> 00:24:25,007
The product was great.
The music was great.
451
00:24:25,107 --> 00:24:27,610
The whole project is fantastic.
452
00:24:31,681 --> 00:24:32,848
- No, we didn't know it.
453
00:24:32,948 --> 00:24:34,784
I got tapes where--
454
00:24:34,884 --> 00:24:40,522
me, I was told that
it's Rob and Fab singing.
455
00:24:40,623 --> 00:24:45,795
- [speaking German]
456
00:24:45,895 --> 00:24:47,229
- One day,
we're at a friend's house
457
00:24:47,329 --> 00:24:49,999
watching "Formel Eins,"
this TV show...
458
00:24:50,099 --> 00:24:52,234
- [speaking German]
459
00:24:52,334 --> 00:24:55,037
- And then we see
Milli Vanilli.
460
00:24:55,137 --> 00:24:58,073
- Milli Vanilli,
"Girl You Know It's True."
461
00:24:58,173 --> 00:25:01,644
- Our name on television
on "Formel Eins."
462
00:25:01,744 --> 00:25:03,646
We used to dance
behind the stars
463
00:25:03,746 --> 00:25:05,280
who would come on this show,
464
00:25:05,380 --> 00:25:08,684
and suddenly,
we're in the charts.
465
00:25:08,784 --> 00:25:10,285
I mean, we went crazy.
466
00:25:10,385 --> 00:25:13,656
Running, like,
we even broke stuff.
467
00:25:13,756 --> 00:25:16,425
The song starts to blow up,
468
00:25:16,525 --> 00:25:18,594
and it happens so fast.
469
00:25:18,694 --> 00:25:20,429
Like, every week,
it was going up.
470
00:25:20,529 --> 00:25:22,031
Boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom,
471
00:25:22,131 --> 00:25:25,067
boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, pow!
472
00:25:25,167 --> 00:25:26,736
- And the song just takes off.
473
00:25:26,836 --> 00:25:28,270
It becomes a huge hit
in Germany.
474
00:25:32,541 --> 00:25:34,944
- Nobody knew
it was gonna be a hit.
475
00:25:35,044 --> 00:25:36,712
Not even Frank.
476
00:25:36,812 --> 00:25:38,914
But once he's seen
it was rising,
477
00:25:39,014 --> 00:25:41,316
then he started putting
more promotion into it.
478
00:25:41,416 --> 00:25:43,252
- Suddenly,
we were in "Bravo,"
479
00:25:43,352 --> 00:25:47,522
a youth magazine in Germany,
selling millions every week.
480
00:25:47,623 --> 00:25:50,059
People that were not
taking us seriously
481
00:25:50,159 --> 00:25:53,028
were suddenly like, "Hey."
482
00:25:53,128 --> 00:25:55,430
And now it's going through
Europe.
483
00:25:55,530 --> 00:25:59,134
So we travel up and down Europe
on television.
484
00:26:00,469 --> 00:26:01,871
We were nervous.
485
00:26:01,971 --> 00:26:03,438
"Can you drop your mic
a little bit?"
486
00:26:03,538 --> 00:26:05,274
No, I'm gonna keep it there.
[laughs]
487
00:26:05,374 --> 00:26:07,076
*
488
00:26:07,176 --> 00:26:10,946
But nervousness translated
into excitement.
489
00:26:11,046 --> 00:26:15,651
*
490
00:26:15,751 --> 00:26:18,453
A minute ago,
we didn't want to do this,
491
00:26:18,553 --> 00:26:21,156
but now, we want more.
492
00:26:21,256 --> 00:26:22,958
We were so pumped.
493
00:26:23,058 --> 00:26:25,861
You're in Italy,
you're in Spain,
494
00:26:25,961 --> 00:26:27,462
you're in Holland.
495
00:26:27,562 --> 00:26:30,099
- And then all of a sudden,
it hits the States.
496
00:26:30,933 --> 00:26:31,967
Bam.
497
00:26:32,067 --> 00:26:34,336
[loud explosion]
498
00:26:34,436 --> 00:26:37,372
[rock music]
499
00:26:37,472 --> 00:26:39,608
- * I'm in love with you, girl,
'cause you're on my mind *
500
00:26:39,709 --> 00:26:42,144
* You're the one I think about
most every time *
501
00:26:42,244 --> 00:26:44,680
* And when you pack a smile
in everything you do *
502
00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:47,016
* Don't you understand, girl,
this love is true *
503
00:26:47,116 --> 00:26:50,619
- They came in,
braids swinging...
504
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,654
- Chest bumping...
505
00:26:52,755 --> 00:26:54,423
with tights on.
506
00:26:54,523 --> 00:26:58,093
- It was two Black dudes
with dreads coming into pop.
507
00:26:58,193 --> 00:27:01,096
That alone was
the shock factor.
508
00:27:01,196 --> 00:27:04,700
- * Girl, you know it's true
509
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,770
* Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you
510
00:27:07,870 --> 00:27:10,840
- The hair and the bandannas
and the shoulder pads.
511
00:27:10,940 --> 00:27:12,541
- * Yes, you know it's true
512
00:27:12,641 --> 00:27:14,476
- It was a totally
different style.
513
00:27:14,576 --> 00:27:17,079
both:
* Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you
514
00:27:17,179 --> 00:27:18,848
- That's all we knew.
- They had it all.
515
00:27:18,948 --> 00:27:20,549
Like, their visuals were
on point.
516
00:27:20,649 --> 00:27:22,684
- I mean, they were
just eye candy.
517
00:27:22,785 --> 00:27:25,287
It was yummy, yummy, yummy.
518
00:27:25,387 --> 00:27:28,457
[upbeat funk music]
519
00:27:28,557 --> 00:27:30,559
- "Girl You Know It's True"
becomes the number two hit
520
00:27:30,659 --> 00:27:31,727
in the United States.
521
00:27:31,827 --> 00:27:33,495
- "Girl You Know It's True,"
number two.
522
00:27:33,595 --> 00:27:36,031
Oh, my God.
523
00:27:36,131 --> 00:27:40,535
- It became a top five hit in
23 countries around the world.
524
00:27:40,635 --> 00:27:43,906
That's Michael Jackson
level success.
525
00:27:44,006 --> 00:27:45,507
- Ah!
526
00:27:45,607 --> 00:27:46,675
[energizing music]
527
00:27:46,776 --> 00:27:48,510
- Great music, it just rises.
528
00:27:48,610 --> 00:27:52,414
When those special ones come,
they come.
529
00:27:52,514 --> 00:27:55,650
- As much as it wasn't
the right thing to do,
530
00:27:55,751 --> 00:27:58,253
the power of
"Girl You Know It's True"...
531
00:27:58,353 --> 00:28:00,022
* I'm so in love, girl
532
00:28:00,122 --> 00:28:01,123
Was pulling on us.
533
00:28:01,223 --> 00:28:02,724
* I'm so in love, girl
534
00:28:02,825 --> 00:28:04,193
*
535
00:28:04,293 --> 00:28:08,430
This energy, this hype...
- Do you want to party?
536
00:28:08,530 --> 00:28:11,733
- The love...
[loud cheering]
537
00:28:11,834 --> 00:28:15,070
So from that point on,
538
00:28:15,170 --> 00:28:18,207
we embraced the lie.
539
00:28:46,768 --> 00:28:48,637
- What's up?
- Running.
540
00:28:48,737 --> 00:28:50,472
- Yeah.
541
00:28:50,572 --> 00:28:53,275
Number one.
[music playing]
542
00:28:53,375 --> 00:28:54,409
- Every time we were
around people
543
00:28:54,509 --> 00:28:55,878
or, like, taking pictures...
544
00:28:55,978 --> 00:28:57,279
- OK.
545
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,549
- We knew,
you know, you know.
546
00:29:00,649 --> 00:29:02,417
They don't know.
Do they know? I don't know.
547
00:29:05,687 --> 00:29:08,790
- But it was too difficult to
say no to this new life.
548
00:29:08,891 --> 00:29:12,394
[music playing]
549
00:29:12,494 --> 00:29:16,565
"Girl You Know It's True"
just unveiled the beast in us.
550
00:29:22,504 --> 00:29:23,605
- Yeah.
551
00:29:24,907 --> 00:29:29,444
*
552
00:29:29,544 --> 00:29:31,780
- We came from nothing
and now we were tasting
553
00:29:31,881 --> 00:29:33,883
this pop star life.
554
00:29:33,983 --> 00:29:36,451
To be adored, to be loved,
555
00:29:36,551 --> 00:29:39,754
that became very addictive.
556
00:30:02,777 --> 00:30:04,146
- I was nervous.
557
00:30:04,246 --> 00:30:10,285
Being caught was something that
was always, always very aware.
558
00:30:10,385 --> 00:30:12,888
- So, when will we have
your LP?
559
00:30:12,988 --> 00:30:15,490
- Gonna come out in two weeks.
560
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:20,362
It's just like very pop
dance orientated music.
561
00:30:20,462 --> 00:30:22,664
Are you ready here?
[cheers]
562
00:30:24,766 --> 00:30:28,570
- For us, it was a surprise
that it developed immediately.
563
00:30:28,670 --> 00:30:30,872
It was worthwhile thinking
about what you can do.
564
00:30:30,973 --> 00:30:34,043
Do we need an album?
Yes, we need an album.
565
00:30:34,143 --> 00:30:37,212
Do we need a second single?
Yes, we need a second single.
566
00:30:37,312 --> 00:30:43,118
[soft dark music]
567
00:30:43,218 --> 00:30:45,420
- I get the call.
568
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,989
"Frank needs to talk to you."
569
00:30:48,490 --> 00:30:51,126
So I goes up to the studio,
570
00:30:51,226 --> 00:30:54,463
Ingrid opened the door,
I go in.
571
00:30:54,563 --> 00:30:55,697
Sit in the kitchen and wait.
572
00:30:55,797 --> 00:30:58,600
*
573
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:03,138
He came out--took his time,
fixed him a coffee--
574
00:31:03,238 --> 00:31:05,607
and then he said,
575
00:31:05,707 --> 00:31:08,777
"I told you,
keep your mouth shut."
576
00:31:08,877 --> 00:31:12,014
*
577
00:31:12,114 --> 00:31:16,251
He says to me, um,
"They found out in Munich,
578
00:31:16,351 --> 00:31:18,787
"from your promotion manager
or whoever,
579
00:31:18,887 --> 00:31:21,756
"that you're the voice.
580
00:31:21,856 --> 00:31:23,858
Don't want to
see you here anymore."
581
00:31:23,959 --> 00:31:25,727
We didn't talk anymore.
582
00:31:25,827 --> 00:31:29,464
That's it.
583
00:31:29,564 --> 00:31:34,403
I was kicked to the curb.
584
00:31:34,503 --> 00:31:37,272
[mysterious music]
585
00:31:37,372 --> 00:31:39,975
- One night,
Frank Farian called me up.
586
00:31:40,075 --> 00:31:42,944
He said, "John, I've got
a project I'm working on."
587
00:31:44,846 --> 00:31:49,618
"I had a rapper, Charles Shaw,
who tried the situation
588
00:31:49,718 --> 00:31:53,755
and he was not good so
can you come to the studio?"
589
00:31:53,855 --> 00:31:56,091
*
590
00:31:56,191 --> 00:31:58,393
So that's what I did.
591
00:31:58,493 --> 00:32:00,762
He said,
"You got 10,000 D-marks,"
592
00:32:00,862 --> 00:32:02,831
and I said, "Wow."
593
00:32:02,931 --> 00:32:05,934
He said, "You're gonna do
the whole album with me."
594
00:32:06,035 --> 00:32:09,604
- Frank said, "We're gonna be
doing more songs."
595
00:32:09,704 --> 00:32:11,840
- We always asked,
"Where is Rob and Fab?
596
00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:13,908
When are they gonna
start singing?"
597
00:32:14,009 --> 00:32:16,245
Frank said, "They're gonna
record in the evening
598
00:32:16,345 --> 00:32:17,812
when you guys are done."
599
00:32:36,565 --> 00:32:39,201
- I used to have to go through
the back door
600
00:32:39,301 --> 00:32:41,270
because Frank didn't want
nobody know
601
00:32:41,370 --> 00:32:43,572
I was the lead singer.
602
00:32:43,672 --> 00:32:45,974
- This is run like
a tight military operation.
603
00:32:46,075 --> 00:32:48,543
It's on a need-to-know basis.
604
00:32:48,643 --> 00:32:50,979
It was smoke and mirrors.
605
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,517
David Copperfield
couldn't have done it better.
606
00:32:55,617 --> 00:32:58,820
- We like it hot, don't we?
[cheers and applause]
607
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,523
You want to get down with
Milli Vanilli?
608
00:33:01,623 --> 00:33:04,193
They're coming.
It's a hit. Shake your booty.
609
00:33:04,293 --> 00:33:06,828
"Girl You Know It's True."
610
00:33:06,928 --> 00:33:09,864
[energetic music]
611
00:33:09,964 --> 00:33:17,072
*
612
00:33:17,672 --> 00:33:18,873
- One, mark.
- Mark.
613
00:33:18,973 --> 00:33:21,310
[boards click]
614
00:33:21,410 --> 00:33:23,645
- Make sure everyone's phone's
on silent.
615
00:33:23,745 --> 00:33:25,147
- That's a good idea.
616
00:33:25,247 --> 00:33:30,819
*
617
00:33:30,919 --> 00:33:34,456
- Clive is a--
is a gift-seeker.
618
00:33:34,556 --> 00:33:38,393
He is like the Yoda of talent.
619
00:33:38,493 --> 00:33:40,028
He knows.
620
00:33:40,129 --> 00:33:42,397
He just knows.
621
00:33:42,497 --> 00:33:45,800
- With Milli Vanilli,
Clive saw dollar signs.
622
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:47,969
"Girl You Know It's True"
is big now.
623
00:33:48,069 --> 00:33:50,972
How can we cash in on
the immediate moment?
624
00:33:51,072 --> 00:33:54,243
- Well, we moved everything up
as fast as possible.
625
00:33:54,343 --> 00:33:57,078
- Clive would say every week
that we're missing,
626
00:33:57,179 --> 00:33:59,381
we're missing, like,
a million dollars.
627
00:33:59,481 --> 00:34:02,617
So we had to put
an album in motion.
628
00:34:02,717 --> 00:34:05,887
But the album that's out
in Europe, "All or Nothing,"
629
00:34:05,987 --> 00:34:09,958
was not strong enough
to release in America.
630
00:34:10,058 --> 00:34:12,527
- Clive called up
Diane Warren.
631
00:34:12,627 --> 00:34:14,363
- Diane Warren is one of
the biggest songwriters
632
00:34:14,463 --> 00:34:15,630
there are in the country.
633
00:34:15,730 --> 00:34:17,799
- I had written
"Blame It On The Rain"
634
00:34:17,899 --> 00:34:19,368
when I was scheduled
to see Clive,
635
00:34:19,468 --> 00:34:21,736
and he goes, I want you to
hear this new group I have.
636
00:34:21,836 --> 00:34:23,305
And he played me
"Girl You Know It's True."
637
00:34:23,405 --> 00:34:24,606
I'm like, "This is so crazy
638
00:34:24,706 --> 00:34:25,907
"'cause the song
I'm bringing you
639
00:34:26,007 --> 00:34:27,409
really sounds like
the follow-up to that."
640
00:34:27,509 --> 00:34:28,810
It's even the same rhythm.
641
00:34:28,910 --> 00:34:31,313
"Girl You Know It's True,"
"Blame It On The Rain."
642
00:34:31,413 --> 00:34:33,081
I played him the song
and he loved it.
643
00:34:33,182 --> 00:34:35,917
He sent it to Frank Farian
and they recorded it.
644
00:34:36,017 --> 00:34:38,553
*
645
00:34:38,653 --> 00:34:41,590
- Normally,
when you've given the producer
646
00:34:41,690 --> 00:34:44,426
some repertoire
for them to record,
647
00:34:44,526 --> 00:34:47,496
you want to be there
to make sure it gets done.
648
00:34:47,596 --> 00:34:49,564
In the case of Frank, though,
649
00:34:49,664 --> 00:34:52,334
he didn't want anyone
in the studio.
650
00:34:52,434 --> 00:34:55,136
[mysterious music]
651
00:34:55,237 --> 00:34:59,474
- It was very weird for us
to find the songs,
652
00:34:59,574 --> 00:35:01,075
send them to Frank,
653
00:35:01,176 --> 00:35:06,748
and then have them produce it
without any of our presence.
654
00:35:06,848 --> 00:35:11,186
But the speculation that
we were somehow aware of
655
00:35:11,286 --> 00:35:14,289
what was going on
behind the scenes in Germany
656
00:35:14,389 --> 00:35:17,792
is simply not the case.
657
00:35:17,892 --> 00:35:22,664
If an outside producer sends
in all the album credits,
658
00:35:22,764 --> 00:35:24,266
you have to take it on faith
659
00:35:24,366 --> 00:35:27,802
that represents what actually
happened in the studio.
660
00:35:27,902 --> 00:35:30,104
There was no reason
to think not.
661
00:35:35,310 --> 00:35:36,845
- Ah, there it is.
662
00:35:36,945 --> 00:35:40,081
So this is the European version
of the album "All or Nothing."
663
00:35:40,181 --> 00:35:43,318
You see Rob and Fab on
the cover, the first album.
664
00:35:43,418 --> 00:35:45,654
That's their, like,
running man logo.
665
00:35:45,754 --> 00:35:46,788
There they are on the back,
666
00:35:46,888 --> 00:35:49,724
shirtless, of course,
'cause why not?
667
00:35:49,824 --> 00:35:54,629
And let's see
who's credited on this album.
668
00:35:57,566 --> 00:36:00,635
So it says musicians here,
669
00:36:00,735 --> 00:36:04,806
and I don't see Rob and Fab
on here at all.
670
00:36:04,906 --> 00:36:10,412
So, backing vocals, Jodie and
Linda Rocco, Charles Shaw--
671
00:36:10,512 --> 00:36:11,946
produced by Frank Farian.
672
00:36:12,046 --> 00:36:15,384
But this is the truth
in advertising version
673
00:36:15,484 --> 00:36:17,118
that doesn't have them on it.
674
00:36:17,218 --> 00:36:20,389
If I'm at a record label and
I'm putting out this record,
675
00:36:20,489 --> 00:36:23,792
and I look at the vocalists and
the guys who are on the cover
676
00:36:23,892 --> 00:36:26,528
are not listed in
the liner notes,
677
00:36:26,628 --> 00:36:27,962
I'm gonna have some questions,
you know?
678
00:36:28,062 --> 00:36:31,232
Like, that is a giant
red flag for me.
679
00:36:36,004 --> 00:36:38,340
- That was the name of
the European album.
680
00:36:41,576 --> 00:36:43,812
- Really?
OK. I didn't know that.
681
00:36:43,912 --> 00:36:47,015
- So that's--
- [chuckles]
682
00:36:53,054 --> 00:36:54,255
- [laughs] I--
683
00:36:54,356 --> 00:36:55,256
I don't know what to say
to that.
684
00:36:57,926 --> 00:37:00,695
- Yeah, but we didn't
release that record, so--
685
00:37:05,467 --> 00:37:07,936
- Really? I forgot about that.
686
00:37:08,036 --> 00:37:11,072
["Blame It On The Rain"
playing]
687
00:37:11,172 --> 00:37:16,077
*
688
00:37:16,177 --> 00:37:19,914
- * Woo, blame it on the rain
689
00:37:20,014 --> 00:37:22,351
- * Rain
- * Yeah, yeah
690
00:37:22,451 --> 00:37:24,753
* Blame it on the stars
691
00:37:24,853 --> 00:37:26,287
- * Stars
- * Ooh
692
00:37:26,388 --> 00:37:28,289
- Rob Pilatus, my brother,
693
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:31,125
he loved "Blame It On The Rain"
because that was--
694
00:37:31,225 --> 00:37:34,396
that was his thing.
695
00:37:34,496 --> 00:37:35,830
- * You said you
didn't need her *
696
00:37:35,930 --> 00:37:39,100
- "Blame It On The Rain" is
number one hit in 1989.
697
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,970
- They released "Baby Don't
Forget My Number," number one.
698
00:37:42,070 --> 00:37:44,906
- "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You"
is the third number one song.
699
00:37:45,006 --> 00:37:46,908
They have three number one
smashes off that record.
700
00:37:47,008 --> 00:37:48,577
- That feels impossible.
701
00:37:48,677 --> 00:37:50,812
- * To satisfy your pride
702
00:37:50,912 --> 00:37:53,915
- And once you have
three big hit singles,
703
00:37:54,015 --> 00:37:56,985
you're gonna sell
a lot of albums.
704
00:37:57,085 --> 00:38:00,589
- If an artist sells 500,000
and went gold, that's terrific.
705
00:38:00,689 --> 00:38:02,323
[crowd screaming]
706
00:38:02,424 --> 00:38:05,860
- * You let her walk away
707
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,663
- If an artist sells a million
albums, that's something.
708
00:38:08,763 --> 00:38:10,164
- * Got to blame it on
something *
709
00:38:10,264 --> 00:38:11,800
- But 8 million?
710
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:14,002
- It's one of the biggest
debuts of all time.
711
00:38:14,102 --> 00:38:19,207
- * Blame it on the rain
that was falling, falling *
712
00:38:19,307 --> 00:38:22,577
* Blame it on the stars
that didn't shine that night *
713
00:38:22,677 --> 00:38:24,045
- To just come out of nowhere
714
00:38:24,145 --> 00:38:26,648
and have a number one
debut album for seven weeks,
715
00:38:26,748 --> 00:38:29,083
well, that just was unheard of
at the time.
716
00:38:29,183 --> 00:38:33,154
- * Blame it on the rain,
yeah, yeah *
717
00:38:33,254 --> 00:38:37,225
- Debut album,
hot right out of the gate.
718
00:38:37,325 --> 00:38:38,660
"Here's Milli Vanilli.
719
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,094
What do you want to do
with it?"
720
00:38:40,194 --> 00:38:42,030
Well, we want to play it.
We want to dance to it.
721
00:38:42,130 --> 00:38:43,532
We want to have fun with them.
722
00:38:43,632 --> 00:38:46,267
Can we get them in the studio?
We want to meet them.
723
00:38:46,367 --> 00:38:51,406
- * Blame it on the rain
that was falling, falling *
724
00:38:51,506 --> 00:38:53,174
* Blame it on the stars
725
00:38:53,274 --> 00:38:55,343
- At that point,
what are we gonna do?
726
00:38:55,444 --> 00:38:58,713
Should we bring them over?
Should they do the MTV tour?
727
00:38:58,813 --> 00:39:01,015
Then that all kicks in.
728
00:39:01,115 --> 00:39:03,151
- * Blame it on the rain
729
00:39:03,251 --> 00:39:06,087
- Labels saw we were growing
in the charts in America.
730
00:39:06,187 --> 00:39:07,856
- * Blame it on the rain
731
00:39:07,956 --> 00:39:10,459
- Our presence was needed.
732
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:12,160
[soft dark music]
733
00:39:12,260 --> 00:39:15,930
But Frank didn't want us
to go to America.
734
00:39:16,030 --> 00:39:17,566
- Frank was apprehensive
735
00:39:17,666 --> 00:39:20,034
because of the big secret,
obviously.
736
00:39:20,134 --> 00:39:23,271
- Frank was concerned that
they would go to America
737
00:39:23,371 --> 00:39:25,940
and fuck up everything.
738
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,077
- America had our heart.
739
00:39:29,177 --> 00:39:33,347
"We want to go to the US.
USA! USA!"
740
00:39:33,448 --> 00:39:35,484
[Tone Loc's
"Funky Cold Medina" playing]
741
00:39:35,584 --> 00:39:37,986
*
742
00:39:38,086 --> 00:39:39,954
Coming to LA for us was like
743
00:39:40,054 --> 00:39:42,557
we're living the dream,
we're doing things.
744
00:39:42,657 --> 00:39:43,892
- A'ight?
- Kick it.
745
00:39:43,992 --> 00:39:46,828
- Hollywood, Malibu.
746
00:39:46,928 --> 00:39:49,498
The girls are hot there, too.
Oof.
747
00:39:49,598 --> 00:39:51,600
*
748
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:53,234
- * Cold coolin' at a bar
749
00:39:53,334 --> 00:39:55,704
- We got a manager,
Sandy Gallin...
750
00:39:55,804 --> 00:39:57,038
- * But like
Mick Jagger said *
751
00:39:57,138 --> 00:39:58,573
- He was like a big player.
752
00:39:58,673 --> 00:39:59,874
- * I can't get
no satisfaction *
753
00:39:59,974 --> 00:40:01,442
- He had Michael Jackson
at the time,
754
00:40:01,543 --> 00:40:03,845
Dolly Parton--tons of people.
755
00:40:03,945 --> 00:40:05,013
That's why he had us,
756
00:40:05,113 --> 00:40:06,515
to handle people like
Milli Vanilli.
757
00:40:06,615 --> 00:40:09,050
- * Funky Cold Medina
758
00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:11,319
- I was truly,
in the beginning, a fan.
759
00:40:11,419 --> 00:40:13,454
I said to them,
"You know, I've never been
760
00:40:13,555 --> 00:40:14,956
a manager before,"
761
00:40:15,056 --> 00:40:19,093
and Rob said, "Well, we've
never been pop stars before."
762
00:40:19,193 --> 00:40:22,163
I was like, "OK, here we go."
763
00:40:22,263 --> 00:40:23,998
[laughs]
764
00:40:25,399 --> 00:40:29,370
My first job was putting them
on the MTV tour.
765
00:40:29,470 --> 00:40:32,006
- It was gonna be
our first tour in America--
766
00:40:32,106 --> 00:40:35,610
a 107 city tour
in eight months--
767
00:40:35,710 --> 00:40:37,812
so we had to put
a band together.
768
00:40:37,912 --> 00:40:40,014
*
769
00:40:40,114 --> 00:40:41,883
- I was the band leader then.
770
00:40:41,983 --> 00:40:44,753
We had rehearsed,
we were flawless.
771
00:40:44,853 --> 00:40:47,321
Everybody was really
invested in this gig
772
00:40:47,421 --> 00:40:50,592
'cause it was
the new hottest shit, you know?
773
00:40:50,692 --> 00:40:52,761
After we had been approved,
774
00:40:52,861 --> 00:40:56,831
Rob and Fab disappeared.
They were gone.
775
00:40:56,931 --> 00:41:00,569
So we were just rehearsing
with no artist.
776
00:41:00,669 --> 00:41:04,939
And I start going, "These guys
must be really, really good.
777
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:07,141
"They don't rehearse,
they don't fucking do nothing.
778
00:41:07,241 --> 00:41:10,779
They--
what the hell's going on?"
779
00:41:10,879 --> 00:41:12,413
We started asking
more questions.
780
00:41:12,513 --> 00:41:15,249
We got to realize, this musical
director at the time
781
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:19,654
is programming this Oberheim.
There's where the vocals are.
782
00:41:19,754 --> 00:41:23,391
And then we understood,
"Oh, they're lip-syncing."
783
00:41:23,491 --> 00:41:26,094
So we said, "OK, we're in
a lip-sync band."
784
00:41:26,194 --> 00:41:27,562
[laughs]
785
00:41:27,662 --> 00:41:29,698
They said, "Don't say anything
about this to anybody else."
786
00:41:29,798 --> 00:41:30,899
"Fine."
787
00:41:30,999 --> 00:41:33,902
[hip-hop music]
788
00:41:34,002 --> 00:41:38,239
- The show would play
to packed arenas.
789
00:41:38,339 --> 00:41:43,377
Rob and Fab were two sexy
performers selling hits,
790
00:41:43,477 --> 00:41:46,581
and they did a really
bloody good job at it.
791
00:41:46,681 --> 00:41:51,352
[wild cheers and applause]
792
00:41:51,452 --> 00:41:54,422
["Girl You Know It's True"
playing]
793
00:41:54,522 --> 00:41:58,993
*
794
00:41:59,093 --> 00:42:04,699
- [screams]
795
00:42:04,799 --> 00:42:11,139
- Yeah!
796
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,843
* Girl, you know it's true
797
00:42:14,943 --> 00:42:20,982
* Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you
798
00:42:21,082 --> 00:42:23,051
* Yes, you know it's true
799
00:42:23,151 --> 00:42:26,788
[wild cheers and applause]
800
00:42:26,888 --> 00:42:28,890
- The audience loved them.
801
00:42:28,990 --> 00:42:31,726
- Yeah!
802
00:42:31,826 --> 00:42:34,062
- It was very powerful.
803
00:42:34,162 --> 00:42:36,164
- * Girl, you know it's,
girl, you know it's *
804
00:42:36,264 --> 00:42:38,566
* Girl, you know it's true
805
00:42:38,667 --> 00:42:41,002
* Girl, you know it's,
yes, you know it's *
806
00:42:41,102 --> 00:42:44,605
* Girl, you know it's true
807
00:42:44,706 --> 00:42:48,476
- Performing is a drug.
808
00:42:48,576 --> 00:42:53,682
That euphoric feeling allowed
us to just forget everything.
809
00:42:53,782 --> 00:43:00,521
*
810
00:43:03,024 --> 00:43:06,494
[wild cheering]
811
00:43:06,594 --> 00:43:08,529
- Milli Vanilli,
the European duo,
812
00:43:08,629 --> 00:43:10,631
now one of the hottest
groups in America,
813
00:43:10,732 --> 00:43:13,835
made a special trip to the
Disney MGM Studios theme parks
814
00:43:13,935 --> 00:43:14,903
where we arranged
for them to have
815
00:43:15,003 --> 00:43:16,470
an exclusive interview session
816
00:43:16,570 --> 00:43:18,707
with some of
their most loyal fans.
817
00:43:18,807 --> 00:43:20,208
- Wherever you've performed,
818
00:43:20,308 --> 00:43:23,377
has anything really
embarrassing happened to you?
819
00:43:23,477 --> 00:43:24,679
- Yeah.
820
00:43:24,779 --> 00:43:27,048
[laughter]
821
00:43:27,148 --> 00:43:29,984
[tense music]
822
00:43:30,084 --> 00:43:34,222
*
823
00:43:34,322 --> 00:43:36,424
- It was super hot that day.
824
00:43:36,524 --> 00:43:40,795
"Downtown" Julie Brown
introduces us as usual.
825
00:43:47,802 --> 00:43:49,370
- I decided to take a break--
826
00:43:49,470 --> 00:43:52,506
the show had been going now
for a few months--
827
00:43:52,606 --> 00:43:55,443
and it was while
I was in my trailer
828
00:43:55,543 --> 00:44:00,148
I heard the crowd, like,
getting a little bit rowdy.
829
00:44:00,248 --> 00:44:02,216
[crowd shouting and booing]
830
00:44:02,316 --> 00:44:04,853
- The vocals that were
being cued from the emulator
831
00:44:04,953 --> 00:44:06,120
started repeating.
832
00:44:06,220 --> 00:44:07,588
* Girl, you know it's--
833
00:44:07,688 --> 00:44:10,024
* Girl, you know it's--
girl, you know it's-- *
834
00:44:10,124 --> 00:44:11,893
* Girl, you know it's--
835
00:44:11,993 --> 00:44:14,662
- It was like--
[imitating heartbeat]
836
00:44:14,763 --> 00:44:15,730
Shit!
837
00:44:15,830 --> 00:44:18,232
[crowd shouting and booing]
838
00:44:18,332 --> 00:44:22,203
- As I open my door,
I saw Rob go flying by.
839
00:44:22,303 --> 00:44:25,273
- Rob and Fab were gone,
and I'm onstage still with
840
00:44:25,373 --> 00:44:27,275
the guitar player and the
drummer going "What the fuck?
841
00:44:27,375 --> 00:44:29,744
Do we continue the song on
or what are we doing here?"
842
00:44:29,844 --> 00:44:31,379
[crowd booing]
843
00:44:31,479 --> 00:44:32,747
So, of course,
there was outrage.
844
00:44:32,847 --> 00:44:34,015
I was furious.
845
00:44:34,115 --> 00:44:36,717
"What the fuck, you know?
Find him!"
846
00:44:36,818 --> 00:44:39,854
- Rob was pissed.
He was like, "Fuck that!"
847
00:44:39,954 --> 00:44:42,123
He lost his cool.
848
00:44:42,223 --> 00:44:44,759
- Rob had gotten hold of me
to say,
849
00:44:44,859 --> 00:44:45,927
"I don't know what to do."
850
00:44:46,027 --> 00:44:47,661
You know, he was scared.
851
00:44:47,762 --> 00:44:49,964
*
852
00:44:50,064 --> 00:44:51,365
He kind of exploded.
853
00:44:51,465 --> 00:44:57,171
It was the moment where
it just burst open.
854
00:44:57,271 --> 00:44:58,940
And at that time,
we didn't know
855
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,011
what pressure he was feeling
because we didn't know
856
00:45:03,111 --> 00:45:04,813
the load they were carrying.
857
00:45:04,913 --> 00:45:09,417
*
858
00:45:29,871 --> 00:45:33,307
[radio tuning]
859
00:45:33,407 --> 00:45:36,811
- * On the rain
that was falling *
860
00:45:36,911 --> 00:45:37,912
- When Milli Vanilli blew up,
861
00:45:38,012 --> 00:45:39,413
I was a program director at
862
00:45:39,513 --> 00:45:44,318
WILD radio station, Boston.
1090 on the AM dial.
863
00:45:44,418 --> 00:45:49,123
The only Black station
within miles
864
00:45:49,223 --> 00:45:51,625
of Boston, Massachusetts.
865
00:45:51,725 --> 00:45:53,061
[hip-hop music]
866
00:45:53,161 --> 00:45:56,430
The guys came to our radio
station for our morning show.
867
00:45:56,530 --> 00:45:57,798
And I remember
them sitting there,
868
00:45:57,899 --> 00:45:59,400
and when I heard them talk
for the first time,
869
00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:01,903
I'm like,
"Oh, they sound very different
870
00:46:02,003 --> 00:46:04,138
than they do on the record."
871
00:46:04,238 --> 00:46:05,339
[laughs and claps]
872
00:46:05,439 --> 00:46:07,808
- Please welcome Milli Vanilli.
873
00:46:07,909 --> 00:46:10,912
[wild cheering]
874
00:46:11,012 --> 00:46:13,547
- Once they started doing
promotional dates,
875
00:46:13,647 --> 00:46:16,284
it became pretty clear
that something was strange.
876
00:46:16,384 --> 00:46:17,919
- Fab, how are you
finding Australia?
877
00:46:18,019 --> 00:46:19,353
You enjoying it?
878
00:46:22,056 --> 00:46:23,657
- Sydney?
[laughter]
879
00:46:23,757 --> 00:46:25,559
Syd-ney. Syd-ney.
880
00:46:26,194 --> 00:46:29,898
- Melbourne. Melbourne.
[laughter]
881
00:46:31,399 --> 00:46:35,103
- It just seemed that
they weren't comfortable
882
00:46:35,203 --> 00:46:37,338
communicating in English.
883
00:46:37,438 --> 00:46:40,074
- Who inspired you
the most, Rob?
884
00:46:40,174 --> 00:46:42,576
- Uh, diff--difficult.
885
00:46:42,676 --> 00:46:45,213
- You could tell
they were sweating bullets.
886
00:46:45,313 --> 00:46:46,347
People were starting to,
you know,
887
00:46:46,447 --> 00:46:48,016
giggle a little bit
on the sides.
888
00:46:48,116 --> 00:46:49,617
- Fab, you speak English,
right?
889
00:46:49,717 --> 00:46:52,353
- Yeah, I can, too.
- Who are your--[laughs]
890
00:46:52,453 --> 00:46:54,788
- And it was easy to
kind of latch on to that
891
00:46:54,889 --> 00:46:55,856
and make them a joke.
892
00:46:55,957 --> 00:47:00,061
- You are Germany,
and I'm from French.
893
00:47:00,161 --> 00:47:01,930
- Oh.
[laughter]
894
00:47:02,030 --> 00:47:03,664
[explosion]
895
00:47:03,764 --> 00:47:06,434
- There's a way that
I think some people knew.
896
00:47:06,534 --> 00:47:10,671
- [mocking]
* Blame it on the rain
897
00:47:10,771 --> 00:47:12,873
- Arsenio Hall is someone who
had been around the business
898
00:47:12,974 --> 00:47:15,276
a long time and had seen a lot.
899
00:47:15,376 --> 00:47:17,278
- Man, I think Milli Vanilli
doing crack.
900
00:47:17,378 --> 00:47:18,679
I don't think--
[laughter]
901
00:47:18,779 --> 00:47:20,548
- It seemed bad to
a lot of these folks.
902
00:47:20,648 --> 00:47:23,017
- Those pants too tight.
They going--
903
00:47:23,117 --> 00:47:24,852
- They knew something was up.
904
00:47:24,953 --> 00:47:27,388
[cheers and applause]
905
00:47:27,488 --> 00:47:29,457
- Privately, I thought, like,
906
00:47:29,557 --> 00:47:32,426
you know, "Did they really
sing everything?"
907
00:47:32,526 --> 00:47:34,328
- Girls!
crowd: Girls!
908
00:47:34,428 --> 00:47:37,031
- Hey, boys!
crowd: Hey, boys!
909
00:47:37,131 --> 00:47:40,001
- Yeah!
crowd: Yeah!
910
00:47:40,101 --> 00:47:43,671
- * Girl, you know it's--
girl, you know it's true *
911
00:47:43,771 --> 00:47:45,706
* Ooh, ooh, ooh
912
00:47:45,806 --> 00:47:48,276
- * I'm in love with you, girl,
'cause you're on my mind *
913
00:47:48,376 --> 00:47:50,344
* You're the one I think about
most every time *
914
00:47:50,444 --> 00:47:52,981
- We didn't sing on
those records.
915
00:47:53,081 --> 00:47:55,349
- * Don't you understand, girl,
this love is true *
916
00:47:55,449 --> 00:47:57,718
- We didn't even sound like
those records.
917
00:47:57,818 --> 00:47:59,988
*
918
00:48:00,088 --> 00:48:02,856
We were lying.
919
00:48:02,957 --> 00:48:06,427
[soft dark music]
920
00:48:06,527 --> 00:48:09,630
[speaking French]
921
00:48:13,167 --> 00:48:15,036
Lies are taking the elevators
922
00:48:15,136 --> 00:48:18,006
while the truth
takes the stairs.
923
00:48:18,106 --> 00:48:21,642
*
924
00:48:21,742 --> 00:48:24,878
I knew that at some point,
the truth would rise.
925
00:48:24,979 --> 00:48:26,981
*
926
00:48:27,081 --> 00:48:30,018
They were gonna catch us
at some point or another.
927
00:48:30,118 --> 00:48:31,719
*
928
00:48:36,724 --> 00:48:40,061
*
929
00:48:40,161 --> 00:48:43,564
This load on our shoulders,
930
00:48:43,664 --> 00:48:46,700
it was getting heavy and heavy
and heavy.
931
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,702
[wild cheering]
932
00:49:02,450 --> 00:49:06,687
[wild cheering]
933
00:49:18,266 --> 00:49:21,735
[wild cheering]
934
00:49:24,572 --> 00:49:26,840
- I was a little bit
tired by it, yeah.
935
00:49:36,617 --> 00:49:40,254
- We drank more,
took more drugs,
936
00:49:40,354 --> 00:49:43,391
to be able to, like, numb out.
937
00:50:03,010 --> 00:50:05,479
- I think next time,
next time, maybe--
938
00:50:05,579 --> 00:50:07,047
should we ask them to sing
next time?
939
00:50:07,148 --> 00:50:09,783
[wild cheering]
940
00:50:17,891 --> 00:50:19,960
- Um...
941
00:50:20,060 --> 00:50:23,464
This, uh..
942
00:50:31,071 --> 00:50:34,007
[soft music]
943
00:51:26,460 --> 00:51:33,634
*
944
00:51:43,911 --> 00:51:47,315
- [shouts]
945
00:51:48,216 --> 00:51:50,351
- They got double platinum.
They got gold records.
946
00:51:50,451 --> 00:51:52,986
*
947
00:51:53,086 --> 00:51:55,389
Everybody else got
a gold record of my voice
948
00:51:55,489 --> 00:51:56,890
on their walls.
949
00:51:56,990 --> 00:51:58,526
*
950
00:51:58,626 --> 00:52:01,995
That's my voice!
951
00:52:02,095 --> 00:52:03,797
You end up drinking,
952
00:52:03,897 --> 00:52:07,368
you end up taking drugs
to not think about
953
00:52:07,468 --> 00:52:09,970
what's really happening
in reality.
954
00:52:10,070 --> 00:52:13,106
Then my manager that I had
at that time said,
955
00:52:13,207 --> 00:52:15,075
"Well, you know what?
956
00:52:15,175 --> 00:52:19,280
We're gonna do interviews.
You're gonna go live."
957
00:52:19,380 --> 00:52:20,948
I was singing before
Milli Vanilli
958
00:52:21,048 --> 00:52:23,183
even thought about
becoming stars.
959
00:52:23,284 --> 00:52:26,887
I went abroad and said it
in a TV show,
960
00:52:26,987 --> 00:52:28,222
it's my voice.
961
00:52:28,322 --> 00:52:32,260
Music is from Frank Farian
and not from Milli Vanilli.
962
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:39,300
*
963
00:52:40,368 --> 00:52:43,103
And Frank denied it all.
964
00:52:43,203 --> 00:52:46,340
His words were--I can
remember them to the day--
965
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,310
"This artist is a liar.
966
00:52:49,410 --> 00:52:52,079
"Look the way he's dressed.
967
00:52:52,179 --> 00:52:54,014
"The Black guy.
968
00:52:54,114 --> 00:52:55,549
He's just trying to
make money."
969
00:52:55,649 --> 00:52:58,051
*
970
00:53:08,996 --> 00:53:10,097
- Ingrid!
971
00:53:10,197 --> 00:53:11,832
She said,
"Frank don't want you to be
972
00:53:11,932 --> 00:53:15,068
"talking out there to nobody.
Keep your mouth shut."
973
00:53:15,168 --> 00:53:16,437
"How could you say that?
974
00:53:16,537 --> 00:53:19,473
You're just trying
to get publicity."
975
00:53:19,573 --> 00:53:22,276
Milli Vanilli fans?
Oh, man.
976
00:53:22,376 --> 00:53:24,312
Death threats.
977
00:53:24,412 --> 00:53:29,517
"Your next show, this and this
is gonna happen to you."
978
00:53:29,617 --> 00:53:31,619
- The phone rang and
it was Charles Shaw.
979
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,354
And I didn't know who he was,
980
00:53:33,454 --> 00:53:35,389
and he said, "I'm the real
singer of Milli Vanilli
981
00:53:35,489 --> 00:53:37,491
and you have to help me."
982
00:53:37,591 --> 00:53:39,527
So I called Sandy right away
983
00:53:39,627 --> 00:53:41,662
and I said, "I just got this
weird call from this guy.
984
00:53:41,762 --> 00:53:42,863
He says he's the real voice."
985
00:53:42,963 --> 00:53:46,367
"Ah, just a crazy person.
Just ignore it."
986
00:53:46,467 --> 00:53:49,136
- It didn't interest anybody.
987
00:53:50,037 --> 00:53:54,274
You get tired of trying to
988
00:53:54,375 --> 00:53:57,345
lead a jackass to water
989
00:53:57,445 --> 00:53:59,313
and make him drink it.
990
00:54:18,499 --> 00:54:21,769
[crowd cheering]
991
00:54:21,869 --> 00:54:23,971
- People wanted to believe
992
00:54:24,071 --> 00:54:25,739
they are really singing
these songs
993
00:54:25,839 --> 00:54:27,808
because it was
a good production.
994
00:54:27,908 --> 00:54:29,677
It was entertainment.
995
00:54:31,311 --> 00:54:34,081
- It's a magic trick pulled
off in front of you onstage,
996
00:54:34,181 --> 00:54:36,283
and the audience usually
wants to be deceived
997
00:54:36,384 --> 00:54:37,885
in a magic show.
998
00:54:37,985 --> 00:54:41,389
So if everyone benefits
from a scam like that,
999
00:54:41,489 --> 00:54:42,856
including the audience,
1000
00:54:42,956 --> 00:54:45,559
it's very easy to
look the other way.
1001
00:54:45,659 --> 00:54:46,794
- Everyone got his bonus,
1002
00:54:46,894 --> 00:54:49,129
everyone was happy to be
successful,
1003
00:54:49,229 --> 00:54:52,032
and the people are happy to
have this record.
1004
00:54:52,132 --> 00:54:57,270
We all together were in
a very nice flow of success.
1005
00:54:57,371 --> 00:55:00,207
["Money" playing]
1006
00:55:00,307 --> 00:55:02,075
- * Mo-mo-mo-money rules
the world *
1007
00:55:02,175 --> 00:55:04,044
* It's still
the same old greed *
1008
00:55:04,144 --> 00:55:06,680
- Successful music is
a great money machine.
1009
00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:09,182
- Their videos are hot,
their songs are hot.
1010
00:55:09,282 --> 00:55:11,118
- Singles, albums,
maxi singles...
1011
00:55:11,218 --> 00:55:12,352
- Buy it now.
1012
00:55:12,453 --> 00:55:15,022
- The album made
$580 million.
1013
00:55:15,122 --> 00:55:18,158
They had sold approximately
46 million records, global.
1014
00:55:18,258 --> 00:55:20,327
There was merchandise,
keychains,
1015
00:55:20,428 --> 00:55:21,562
ticket sales to the concerts.
1016
00:55:21,662 --> 00:55:23,597
- It's Milli Vanilli.
Milli Vanilli!
1017
00:55:23,697 --> 00:55:25,666
What a show. What a night.
1018
00:55:25,766 --> 00:55:27,468
- We're going to
a Milli Vanilli concert.
1019
00:55:27,568 --> 00:55:31,672
- They could've recorded
the alphabet, the phonebook.
1020
00:55:31,772 --> 00:55:33,941
You name it,
they were selling it.
1021
00:55:34,041 --> 00:55:35,242
- Their logo is
the running man
1022
00:55:35,342 --> 00:55:38,178
and it symbolizes
the pursuit of success.
1023
00:55:38,278 --> 00:55:39,980
If they do any better
next year,
1024
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,115
they're gonna have
to find a new logo.
1025
00:55:42,215 --> 00:55:44,217
- At that time,
Frank Farian was worth
1026
00:55:44,317 --> 00:55:45,986
almost half a billion.
1027
00:55:46,086 --> 00:55:49,189
- * Money rules the world and
don't you love that cash? *
1028
00:55:49,289 --> 00:55:51,692
- They continued to steamroll
through the end of the year.
1029
00:55:51,792 --> 00:55:54,227
- And the winner is...
Milli Vanilli.
1030
00:55:54,327 --> 00:55:55,763
- They won three
American Music Awards...
1031
00:55:55,863 --> 00:55:57,397
- Milli Vanilli.
1032
00:55:57,998 --> 00:55:59,667
- Milli Vanilli!
1033
00:55:59,767 --> 00:56:01,702
- This train was moving.
1034
00:56:01,802 --> 00:56:04,905
- Thank you to our producer,
Frank Farian,
1035
00:56:05,005 --> 00:56:06,640
to our manager, Sandy Gallin.
1036
00:56:06,740 --> 00:56:08,776
- We'd like to thank
Clive Davis.
1037
00:56:08,876 --> 00:56:10,844
- * Money rules the world
1038
00:56:10,944 --> 00:56:12,880
- Arista, BMG,
1039
00:56:12,980 --> 00:56:16,484
they were cashing in
the bucks.
1040
00:56:16,584 --> 00:56:18,051
- * Money, money
1041
00:56:18,151 --> 00:56:19,953
- And the whole thing with
Milli Vanilli
1042
00:56:20,053 --> 00:56:21,321
would have kept going if
1043
00:56:21,421 --> 00:56:24,892
they had not been nominated
for the Grammys.
1044
00:56:27,828 --> 00:56:30,230
- Well, because--
no, but, see,
1045
00:56:30,330 --> 00:56:34,034
most everybody knew
the secret, and I didn't.
1046
00:56:34,134 --> 00:56:35,603
They never told me this,
1047
00:56:35,703 --> 00:56:38,706
so I just assumed they sang,
you know?
1048
00:56:38,806 --> 00:56:40,207
[hip-hop music]
1049
00:56:40,307 --> 00:56:43,043
So we're at a conference
meeting and I said,
1050
00:56:43,143 --> 00:56:45,145
"I think Milli Vanilli could
get nominated for a Grammy."
1051
00:56:45,245 --> 00:56:47,247
I thought "Blame It On
The Rain" was a Grammy song.
1052
00:56:47,347 --> 00:56:49,316
They laughed at me and
they're like, "Trust me,
1053
00:56:49,416 --> 00:56:52,586
Milli Vanilli's never gonna
get nominated for a Grammy."
1054
00:56:52,686 --> 00:56:54,555
So I called
National Academy of
1055
00:56:54,655 --> 00:56:56,089
Recording Arts and Sciences.
1056
00:56:56,189 --> 00:56:57,858
They put me right through
to Mike Greene's office,
1057
00:56:57,958 --> 00:57:00,460
the president of NARAS.
1058
00:57:00,561 --> 00:57:03,396
I had no idea how somebody
actually does get nominated,
1059
00:57:03,497 --> 00:57:05,398
and he said,
"Oh, you just put it on
1060
00:57:05,499 --> 00:57:07,501
"your management company
letterhead,
1061
00:57:07,601 --> 00:57:10,638
'please consider
Milli Vanilli for a Grammy.'"
1062
00:57:10,738 --> 00:57:13,874
So I typed it up and faxed it
off to the Academy.
1063
00:57:13,974 --> 00:57:16,276
Never thought another thing
about it.
1064
00:57:16,376 --> 00:57:20,013
So when that ballot came out
and Milli Vanilli was on it,
1065
00:57:20,113 --> 00:57:23,216
like, just everything
hit the fan.
1066
00:57:23,316 --> 00:57:25,853
Clive called Sandy
and threw a hissy fit,
1067
00:57:25,953 --> 00:57:28,589
and then Sandy called me
absolutely furious,
1068
00:57:28,689 --> 00:57:30,691
like, "Look what you've done!"
1069
00:57:30,791 --> 00:57:32,359
I'm like,
1070
00:57:32,459 --> 00:57:34,595
"why doesn't anybody want them
to have a Grammy award?"
1071
00:57:34,695 --> 00:57:37,698
[laughs]
1072
00:57:37,798 --> 00:57:41,969
[suspicious music]
1073
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:45,038
- If Milli Vanilli had
been nominated for
1074
00:57:45,138 --> 00:57:47,307
the lip-sync awards,
that would've been fine,
1075
00:57:47,407 --> 00:57:51,945
but they got nominated for
this prestigious musical award
1076
00:57:52,045 --> 00:57:53,981
and they were up against
people who produce music
1077
00:57:54,081 --> 00:57:55,983
and write music and sing.
1078
00:57:56,083 --> 00:57:57,450
They were up against
the Indigo Girls...
1079
00:57:57,551 --> 00:58:01,689
- * Closer I am to fine
1080
00:58:01,789 --> 00:58:03,657
- This incredible folk duo
who sang
1081
00:58:03,757 --> 00:58:05,926
these beautiful, deep songs.
1082
00:58:06,026 --> 00:58:07,060
[Tone Loc's
"Funky Cold Medina" playing]
1083
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,729
They were up against Tone Loc.
1084
00:58:08,829 --> 00:58:10,363
- * Funky Cold Medina
1085
00:58:10,463 --> 00:58:13,366
- Tone Loc made brilliantly
constructed records,
1086
00:58:13,466 --> 00:58:16,069
full of incredibly clever
rhythmic artifice.
1087
00:58:16,169 --> 00:58:18,171
- * Sweetness
- Neneh Cherry, who had
1088
00:58:18,271 --> 00:58:21,274
a really interesting debut
album and had a lot to say.
1089
00:58:21,374 --> 00:58:22,876
- * We always hang in
a buffalo stance *
1090
00:58:22,976 --> 00:58:25,045
- * Back to life
1091
00:58:25,145 --> 00:58:29,382
- Soul II Soul changed
the way R&B music sounded.
1092
00:58:29,482 --> 00:58:32,019
They changed the way
music moved.
1093
00:58:32,119 --> 00:58:34,955
- And so, if I'm one of those
artists,
1094
00:58:35,055 --> 00:58:36,489
I'm like, "These guys?"
1095
00:58:36,590 --> 00:58:39,292
*
1096
00:58:39,392 --> 00:58:44,297
- We knew that the Grammys
were the highest standard.
1097
00:58:44,397 --> 00:58:47,167
[resonant music]
1098
00:58:47,267 --> 00:58:51,438
Then here we were,
you know, Rob and Fab.
1099
00:58:51,538 --> 00:58:56,476
Not only that,
they want us to perform live.
1100
00:58:56,576 --> 00:59:00,380
- I thought, how the hell are
they going to do the Grammys
1101
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,982
when it's all live?
1102
00:59:06,486 --> 00:59:08,521
Live-sing.
1103
00:59:21,134 --> 00:59:24,304
- Michael Greene was
the head of NARAS at the time.
1104
00:59:24,404 --> 00:59:29,042
I remember taking a picture
with him, and him saying,
1105
00:59:29,142 --> 00:59:31,845
"Be sure you do it right
tonight."
1106
00:59:31,945 --> 00:59:33,947
- [whistles]
1107
00:59:34,047 --> 00:59:36,183
Money, money, money
makes the world go 'round.
1108
00:59:38,151 --> 00:59:43,490
[tense music]
1109
00:59:43,590 --> 00:59:45,192
- We're at the Shrine.
1110
00:59:45,292 --> 00:59:49,062
I remember getting out
of the car and going in.
1111
00:59:49,162 --> 00:59:51,398
On that day, it was pressure.
1112
00:59:51,498 --> 00:59:52,499
[applause]
1113
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:53,400
- Ladies and gentlemen,
1114
00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:56,003
Mr. Mike Greene.
- Thank you.
1115
00:59:56,103 --> 00:59:57,805
This is a great night
for music!
1116
00:59:57,905 --> 00:59:59,472
[applause]
1117
00:59:59,572 --> 01:00:01,341
- Yeah, boy!
1118
01:00:01,441 --> 01:00:04,411
- All the stars are
in the building.
1119
01:00:04,511 --> 01:00:06,546
- Woo-hoo!
1120
01:00:07,881 --> 01:00:10,984
- Finally, it was our turn
to be on that stage.
1121
01:00:11,084 --> 01:00:13,386
Cold sweat.
[whistles]
1122
01:00:13,486 --> 01:00:15,055
- Well, girl,
you know it's true.
1123
01:00:15,155 --> 01:00:18,258
It can only mean Milli Vanilli.
1124
01:00:18,358 --> 01:00:21,628
[fanfare]
1125
01:00:21,729 --> 01:00:23,163
- Hit it!
1126
01:00:23,263 --> 01:00:26,266
["Girl You Know It's True"
playing]
1127
01:00:26,366 --> 01:00:32,339
*
1128
01:00:32,439 --> 01:00:34,641
- * I'm in love with you, girl,
'cause you're on my mind *
1129
01:00:34,742 --> 01:00:37,177
* You're the one I think about
most every time *
1130
01:00:37,277 --> 01:00:39,546
* And when you pack a smile
in everything you do *
1131
01:00:39,646 --> 01:00:41,114
- Performing in front of
the Grammys
1132
01:00:41,214 --> 01:00:44,351
with all those artists,
that was nerve wracking.
1133
01:00:44,451 --> 01:00:47,855
- * And this is true
- * Girl, you know it's true
1134
01:00:47,955 --> 01:00:51,759
- All those people who spent
years of their lives
1135
01:00:51,859 --> 01:00:53,293
to get to this point,
1136
01:00:53,393 --> 01:00:55,295
and we got here pretty fast.
1137
01:00:55,395 --> 01:01:00,567
*
1138
01:01:00,667 --> 01:01:03,636
[cheers and applause]
1139
01:01:09,442 --> 01:01:11,578
- I remember sitting there,
1140
01:01:11,678 --> 01:01:14,281
and I think the entire industry
knew at that time
1141
01:01:14,381 --> 01:01:16,316
that it wasn't them singing.
1142
01:01:16,416 --> 01:01:17,818
- [clears throat]
That was great.
1143
01:01:17,918 --> 01:01:19,987
I was actually--I was supposed
to be in that number.
1144
01:01:20,087 --> 01:01:22,355
I don't know what--
[laughter]
1145
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:25,092
- When he called out
the nominees,
1146
01:01:25,192 --> 01:01:27,460
you know, it was like, "Man."
1147
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,362
- This year, the nominees for
Best New Artist
1148
01:01:29,462 --> 01:01:31,832
are making all kinds of music.
1149
01:01:31,932 --> 01:01:34,802
- Each one of them express
themself in a unique way
1150
01:01:34,902 --> 01:01:37,070
that commands attention.
1151
01:01:37,170 --> 01:01:40,207
- Now, the nominees for
Best New Artist are...
1152
01:01:41,108 --> 01:01:43,777
- Do Rob and Fab
deserve the Grammy?
1153
01:01:43,877 --> 01:01:45,712
- Neneh Cherry.
1154
01:01:45,813 --> 01:01:47,881
- That's a tough one.
1155
01:01:48,849 --> 01:01:51,018
We didn't sing on
the record, so...
1156
01:01:51,118 --> 01:01:52,252
- Indigo Girls.
1157
01:01:53,453 --> 01:01:54,687
- No.
1158
01:01:55,455 --> 01:01:56,189
But...
1159
01:01:56,289 --> 01:01:57,991
[tense music]
1160
01:01:58,091 --> 01:01:59,526
[cheers and applause]
1161
01:01:59,626 --> 01:02:00,861
- Milli Vanilli.
1162
01:02:00,961 --> 01:02:03,797
- For the pain and everything
that we suffered...
1163
01:02:03,897 --> 01:02:05,298
- Soul II Soul.
1164
01:02:05,398 --> 01:02:07,868
- And the hard work that
we put into,
1165
01:02:07,968 --> 01:02:09,202
do we deserve it?
1166
01:02:09,302 --> 01:02:10,603
- Tone Loc.
1167
01:02:10,703 --> 01:02:12,372
*
1168
01:02:12,472 --> 01:02:16,109
- A very small part of me
says yes.
1169
01:02:16,209 --> 01:02:18,045
*
1170
01:02:18,145 --> 01:02:20,380
- And the Best New Artist is...
1171
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,450
- Rob and Fab deserved
the Grammy.
1172
01:02:24,051 --> 01:02:25,118
- Milli Vanilli.
1173
01:02:25,218 --> 01:02:30,290
[cheers and applause]
1174
01:02:35,262 --> 01:02:36,763
"Oh, my God."
1175
01:02:36,864 --> 01:02:39,799
Frank goes,
"Now, everybody's watching."
1176
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,343
[cheers and applause]
1177
01:02:51,578 --> 01:02:53,246
- Uh, we want to say
thank you very much,
1178
01:02:53,346 --> 01:02:55,983
but we want to say
there are a lot of artists
1179
01:02:56,083 --> 01:02:57,650
here in this room,
1180
01:02:57,750 --> 01:03:00,453
there are a lot of artists
outside in the world
1181
01:03:00,553 --> 01:03:03,590
who could achieve the same
award that we achieved today,
1182
01:03:03,690 --> 01:03:05,758
and it's an award for
all artists in the world.
1183
01:03:05,859 --> 01:03:07,194
Thank you very much.
1184
01:03:07,294 --> 01:03:08,761
[cheers and applause]
1185
01:03:08,862 --> 01:03:11,298
- Thank you.
1186
01:03:11,398 --> 01:03:13,300
- It was a joke
that went too far.
1187
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,369
And once they crossed
that line into
1188
01:03:16,469 --> 01:03:20,540
something that
people really care about,
1189
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,710
that was the beginning of
the end for Rob and Fab.
1190
01:03:25,378 --> 01:03:27,680
- Once they won the Grammy...
1191
01:03:27,780 --> 01:03:30,183
*
1192
01:03:30,283 --> 01:03:33,686
Once they won the Grammy,
1193
01:03:33,786 --> 01:03:36,223
they hung they selves.
1194
01:03:36,323 --> 01:03:39,826
[cheers fading]
1195
01:03:42,429 --> 01:03:45,532
[mysterious music]
1196
01:03:45,632 --> 01:03:49,502
*
1197
01:03:49,602 --> 01:03:52,305
- The afterparty
for the Grammys,
1198
01:03:52,405 --> 01:03:54,807
oh, man, we were already faded.
1199
01:03:54,908 --> 01:03:59,512
*
1200
01:03:59,612 --> 01:04:02,950
I remember having to listen
to Mr. Clive Davis.
1201
01:04:03,050 --> 01:04:05,185
*
1202
01:04:05,285 --> 01:04:07,454
We were so high
1203
01:04:07,554 --> 01:04:09,322
that it took a lot of energy
1204
01:04:09,422 --> 01:04:12,092
to just keep the stuff
together.
1205
01:04:12,192 --> 01:04:14,861
*
1206
01:04:14,962 --> 01:04:19,599
- Frankly, Rob and Fab didn't
do themselves any favors.
1207
01:04:19,699 --> 01:04:21,935
*
1208
01:04:22,035 --> 01:04:25,939
They were just acting arrogant
and, frankly, obnoxious.
1209
01:04:39,719 --> 01:04:42,655
"I have no time.
Who's Paul McCartney?"
1210
01:04:42,755 --> 01:04:45,492
[hip-hop music]
1211
01:04:45,592 --> 01:04:49,596
- When they won,
Rob and Fab were way up here,
1212
01:04:49,696 --> 01:04:51,864
these big stars that
just won a Grammy.
1213
01:04:51,965 --> 01:04:53,033
And the bigger they got,
1214
01:04:53,133 --> 01:04:55,735
the more celebrity
they became.
1215
01:04:57,370 --> 01:04:59,572
They had to have AviĆ³n
in the limousine,
1216
01:04:59,672 --> 01:05:01,408
sushi in the dressing room.
1217
01:05:01,508 --> 01:05:04,211
- They wanted for nothing.
1218
01:05:04,311 --> 01:05:06,846
- The stardom made them crazy.
1219
01:05:06,946 --> 01:05:09,649
- Rob said, "Oh,
can you turn on my voice?"
1220
01:05:09,749 --> 01:05:12,552
And Frank said,
"It's not your voice!"
1221
01:05:12,652 --> 01:05:15,388
Believe it.
It's Brad Howell's voice.
1222
01:05:15,488 --> 01:05:19,159
- He was singing with
my voice during playback
1223
01:05:19,259 --> 01:05:21,294
and believing
that's his own voice.
1224
01:05:21,394 --> 01:05:23,463
They were believing this.
1225
01:05:23,563 --> 01:05:26,499
- They started to forget
the reality
1226
01:05:26,599 --> 01:05:28,401
that they didn't sing.
1227
01:05:28,501 --> 01:05:30,437
[tense music]
1228
01:05:30,537 --> 01:05:31,938
- So they were doing
this interview one time
1229
01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:33,673
and they said they were better
than The Beatles.
1230
01:05:33,773 --> 01:05:38,478
*
1231
01:05:38,578 --> 01:05:40,347
Think about waking up
every day and knowing that
1232
01:05:40,447 --> 01:05:41,848
you don't sing
any of the vocals,
1233
01:05:41,948 --> 01:05:43,683
and then saying you're better
than The Beatles.
1234
01:05:43,783 --> 01:05:45,918
*
1235
01:05:46,019 --> 01:05:48,621
I mean, that takes, like,
giant stones.
1236
01:05:48,721 --> 01:05:52,125
You've really gotta believe
your own bullshit to say that.
1237
01:05:52,225 --> 01:05:55,628
They got caught up in it.
1238
01:05:55,728 --> 01:05:58,031
- At that point, they thought
they had the power,
1239
01:05:58,131 --> 01:05:59,666
and they did, to some degree.
1240
01:05:59,766 --> 01:06:02,202
They said, you know,
"We're in control now."
1241
01:06:02,302 --> 01:06:04,471
*
1242
01:06:04,571 --> 01:06:06,573
Millions and millions of
dollars were at stake
1243
01:06:06,673 --> 01:06:09,942
and people depended on them.
1244
01:06:10,043 --> 01:06:12,279
Frank depended on them.
1245
01:06:12,379 --> 01:06:14,481
Clive depended on them.
1246
01:06:14,581 --> 01:06:18,118
Everybody depended on
Milli Vanilli doing their job.
1247
01:06:18,218 --> 01:06:20,153
*
1248
01:06:20,253 --> 01:06:23,490
- Frank Farian was already
preparing album number two,
1249
01:06:23,590 --> 01:06:25,192
"Keep On Running,"
and they wanted us
1250
01:06:25,292 --> 01:06:31,531
to get back to Germany to go
promote the second album.
1251
01:06:31,631 --> 01:06:35,902
But Rob and Fab were done.
1252
01:06:36,002 --> 01:06:38,405
We wanted to sing.
1253
01:06:38,505 --> 01:06:41,007
We wanted to come out
as singers.
1254
01:06:41,108 --> 01:06:45,412
[soft dark music]
1255
01:06:45,512 --> 01:06:49,316
- At Arista,
we had a weekly luncheon
1256
01:06:49,416 --> 01:06:52,185
in the conference room.
1257
01:06:52,285 --> 01:06:55,788
One day, Clive got a call and
he walked into the kitchen.
1258
01:06:58,358 --> 01:07:00,093
And then came back out
and he goes,
1259
01:07:00,193 --> 01:07:04,164
"They want to sing on
the second album."
1260
01:07:04,264 --> 01:07:08,435
And I remember him saying,
"That's not gonna happen."
1261
01:07:16,276 --> 01:07:18,578
"Oh, but I would like to sing."
1262
01:07:18,678 --> 01:07:20,613
"Yeah, Rob, it's impossible.
1263
01:07:20,713 --> 01:07:22,682
"You cannot sing and
Fab cannot sing,
1264
01:07:22,782 --> 01:07:24,651
so please stop talking."
1265
01:07:26,286 --> 01:07:30,623
- We couldn't continue
to be his marionette.
1266
01:07:30,723 --> 01:07:32,825
Hey, listen.
[flaps lips]
1267
01:07:32,925 --> 01:07:34,594
Done with this.
1268
01:07:34,694 --> 01:07:37,230
So we started to lawyer up,
1269
01:07:37,330 --> 01:07:39,432
and then that's when
we found out
1270
01:07:39,532 --> 01:07:43,970
we signed a contract
for multiple albums.
1271
01:07:44,070 --> 01:07:45,905
We had no clue.
1272
01:07:46,005 --> 01:07:50,143
So to get out of under
the thumb of Frank Farian,
1273
01:07:50,243 --> 01:07:53,045
we played a game
of cat and mouse.
1274
01:07:53,146 --> 01:07:54,581
*
1275
01:07:54,681 --> 01:07:58,084
Our MO was to hurt him.
1276
01:07:58,185 --> 01:08:01,154
Let's push him to a brink
where he's gonna break,
1277
01:08:01,254 --> 01:08:03,956
and then he's gonna say,
"You know what? I'm tired.
1278
01:08:04,056 --> 01:08:05,958
Go away."
1279
01:08:06,058 --> 01:08:07,594
You know, we didn't show up
to the video of
1280
01:08:07,694 --> 01:08:09,696
"Keep On Running."
1281
01:08:09,796 --> 01:08:13,366
And we told him,
"More money. More money."
1282
01:08:13,466 --> 01:08:15,067
He's like,
"No, I'm not doing that!
1283
01:08:15,168 --> 01:08:16,869
What else do you want?"
1284
01:08:24,211 --> 01:08:27,280
They told Frank,
"If you don't give us 150,000,
1285
01:08:27,380 --> 01:08:29,482
"we will go to the producer
and telling them that
1286
01:08:29,582 --> 01:08:32,151
we are not the guys
who singing on the tape."
1287
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,843
["Girl I'm Gonna Miss You"
playing]
1288
01:08:56,943 --> 01:09:02,549
*
1289
01:09:02,649 --> 01:09:05,385
- The story broke in
"The Los Angeles Times"
1290
01:09:05,485 --> 01:09:06,419
and all hell broke loose.
1291
01:09:06,519 --> 01:09:12,959
*
1292
01:09:16,729 --> 01:09:18,798
- Frank threw Rob and Fab
under the bus.
1293
01:09:18,898 --> 01:09:22,535
- * I knew it from the start,
you would break my heart *
1294
01:09:22,635 --> 01:09:25,805
* But still, I had to play
this painful part *
1295
01:09:25,905 --> 01:09:28,308
* You wrapped me around
your little bitty finger *
1296
01:09:44,857 --> 01:09:46,759
- He basically brushed it off
and said,
1297
01:09:46,859 --> 01:09:48,027
"You know, yeah,
they didn't sing..."
1298
01:09:48,127 --> 01:09:51,197
- * I just don't know
what I should do *
1299
01:09:51,298 --> 01:09:52,999
- "And who cares?"
1300
01:09:58,438 --> 01:09:59,906
- Very quickly after that,
1301
01:10:00,006 --> 01:10:02,375
the whole train
came off the tracks.
1302
01:10:02,475 --> 01:10:09,081
- * It's a tragedy for me
to see the dream is over *
1303
01:10:09,181 --> 01:10:13,019
* And I never will forget
the day we met *
1304
01:10:13,119 --> 01:10:14,654
* Girl, I'm gonna miss you
1305
01:10:14,754 --> 01:10:18,057
[ominous music]
1306
01:10:18,157 --> 01:10:20,593
- The pop music world's
in shock tonight--
1307
01:10:20,693 --> 01:10:22,228
- With the revelation that
pop duo--
1308
01:10:22,329 --> 01:10:23,563
- Milli Vanilli didn't sing.
1309
01:10:23,663 --> 01:10:25,031
- So, girl, you know
it's not true.
1310
01:10:25,131 --> 01:10:28,000
- Well, I am shocked.
[audience laughs]
1311
01:10:28,100 --> 01:10:30,803
- It was the lead-in story
on all the news.
1312
01:10:30,903 --> 01:10:31,971
- More embarrassment today
1313
01:10:32,071 --> 01:10:33,873
for the pop singing group
Milli Vanilli.
1314
01:10:33,973 --> 01:10:38,545
- Milli Vanilli turns out to be
a lot of phony baloney.
1315
01:10:38,645 --> 01:10:41,648
- And it didn't just
hit America;
1316
01:10:41,748 --> 01:10:43,115
it hit worldwide.
1317
01:10:51,824 --> 01:10:53,826
- One pop group this week
has been involved in
1318
01:10:53,926 --> 01:10:55,428
a feverish controversy.
1319
01:10:55,528 --> 01:10:57,196
- And then NARAS got involved.
1320
01:10:57,296 --> 01:10:59,732
- There's too many doubts
that have been cast now
1321
01:10:59,832 --> 01:11:02,869
for us not to go forward and
try to find out the truth.
1322
01:11:02,969 --> 01:11:06,773
The credibility of
the Grammy depends on it.
1323
01:11:06,873 --> 01:11:09,876
- Having to give back
their Grammy,
1324
01:11:09,976 --> 01:11:15,214
it's the only time that has
happened in music history.
1325
01:11:16,383 --> 01:11:18,217
- There was no recovering
from that.
1326
01:11:18,317 --> 01:11:22,655
The only way that that could be
ridden was to own it.
1327
01:11:22,755 --> 01:11:26,626
[indistinct chatter]
1328
01:11:26,726 --> 01:11:29,962
- Robert Pilatus
and Fabrice Morvan.
1329
01:11:34,467 --> 01:11:36,168
- Come together. Come together.
1330
01:11:36,268 --> 01:11:38,371
- Come together, guys!
- Right here! Right here!
1331
01:11:38,471 --> 01:11:40,940
- Right here.
- Straight ahead.
1332
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,576
- Fabrice and me,
we lived together in a project
1333
01:11:43,676 --> 01:11:46,145
with two other musicians
in Munich.
1334
01:11:46,245 --> 01:11:48,681
We--we had nothing to eat.
We weren't happy.
1335
01:11:48,781 --> 01:11:51,884
We wanted to be stars.
We want to get up on top.
1336
01:11:51,984 --> 01:11:53,986
So suddenly, this guy gave us
a chance and we took it.
1337
01:11:54,086 --> 01:11:55,655
He gave us a little bit money.
1338
01:11:55,755 --> 01:11:59,325
- We were young, naive,
and we believed him.
1339
01:11:59,426 --> 01:12:01,193
It was an opportunity for us.
1340
01:12:01,293 --> 01:12:04,263
- We feel really, really sorry
about our fans,
1341
01:12:04,363 --> 01:12:08,801
but we just hope that they
understand that we were young,
1342
01:12:08,901 --> 01:12:11,337
that we just wanted to live
the life the American way.
1343
01:12:19,078 --> 01:12:20,780
- Of course.
Yeah.
1344
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:22,815
- You're absolutely right.
I was seduced.
1345
01:12:22,915 --> 01:12:24,717
You have to understand
we were seduced,
1346
01:12:24,817 --> 01:12:27,720
we were abused,
and we felt very guilty,
1347
01:12:27,820 --> 01:12:28,888
and we're happy that
it's over, you know?
1348
01:12:28,988 --> 01:12:31,090
We don't understand
that it's us,
1349
01:12:31,190 --> 01:12:33,025
the two little guys
from Germany,
1350
01:12:33,125 --> 01:12:35,227
the victims who has
to play suddenly
1351
01:12:35,327 --> 01:12:37,964
the crux of a trial
that we are not.
1352
01:12:45,905 --> 01:12:48,174
- I will describe it like this.
1353
01:12:48,274 --> 01:12:49,341
You get something,
1354
01:12:49,442 --> 01:12:51,377
but for that, you make
a pact with the devil.
1355
01:12:55,948 --> 01:12:57,750
- I think you should
go with this tape.
1356
01:12:57,850 --> 01:12:59,051
We give you each a tape.
1357
01:12:59,151 --> 01:13:01,287
You can take it to
a scientist--
1358
01:13:01,387 --> 01:13:03,556
- But you could--
1359
01:13:03,656 --> 01:13:04,791
- OK, I demonstrate!
1360
01:13:04,891 --> 01:13:07,960
Fuck it. I do it. Let's do it.
1361
01:13:08,060 --> 01:13:11,464
* Girl, you know it's true
1362
01:13:11,564 --> 01:13:15,968
* Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you
1363
01:13:16,068 --> 01:13:18,170
- * I'm in love with you, girl,
'cause you're on my mind *
1364
01:13:18,270 --> 01:13:20,439
* You're the one I think about
most every time *
1365
01:13:20,540 --> 01:13:23,142
* When you crack a smile
in everything you do *
1366
01:13:27,514 --> 01:13:29,148
- Yeah, I understand--
I really understand them.
1367
01:13:29,248 --> 01:13:31,150
I have to say
I understand them.
1368
01:13:38,024 --> 01:13:40,960
- That's a good question, but--
- A lot of your fans--
1369
01:13:41,060 --> 01:13:43,863
a lot of your fans will be
very upset by the fact
1370
01:13:43,963 --> 01:13:47,033
that the only way
you can explain the charade,
1371
01:13:47,133 --> 01:13:50,002
the farce, the fakery of
the last year, two years,
1372
01:13:50,102 --> 01:13:52,071
is money.
- It's not.
1373
01:13:52,171 --> 01:13:53,773
This is fame--
- There's no other reason.
1374
01:13:53,873 --> 01:13:56,208
That's the only pressure
that Farian put on you,
1375
01:13:56,308 --> 01:13:58,044
was financial--
- Do you live in a project?
1376
01:13:58,144 --> 01:13:59,879
Did you live in a project?
1377
01:13:59,979 --> 01:14:03,049
We had no money,
we wanted to be stars.
1378
01:14:03,149 --> 01:14:06,318
We think we are talented.
We love to be onstage.
1379
01:14:06,418 --> 01:14:08,487
That's our first aim.
It wasn't money.
1380
01:14:08,588 --> 01:14:11,123
If we wouldn't have accept that
at the start,
1381
01:14:11,223 --> 01:14:12,959
we knew we would be
still in Munich.
1382
01:14:13,059 --> 01:14:14,360
I would still work at
the McDonalds.
1383
01:14:15,628 --> 01:14:17,163
- OK, thank you very much.
1384
01:14:17,530 --> 01:14:19,165
- Thank you very much.
1385
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:32,178
[indistinct chatter]
1386
01:14:42,021 --> 01:14:44,456
- They ate 'em up like sharks.
1387
01:14:45,357 --> 01:14:47,994
- They were
the town spectacle.
1388
01:14:49,996 --> 01:14:52,131
- New weasel boys of
the record world.
1389
01:14:52,231 --> 01:14:54,400
Did you know they were exposed
for not actually appearing on
1390
01:14:54,500 --> 01:14:55,868
their Grammy-award winning
record album?
1391
01:14:55,968 --> 01:14:57,269
- They do not sing...
1392
01:14:57,369 --> 01:14:58,838
- Do not sing on it at all.
- On their own record.
1393
01:14:58,938 --> 01:15:01,574
- * Ooh, ooh, ooh,
you are through *
1394
01:15:01,674 --> 01:15:03,542
[laughter]
1395
01:15:03,643 --> 01:15:07,346
- The response was swift
and it was harsh.
1396
01:15:09,048 --> 01:15:10,917
They stopped playing on radio,
1397
01:15:11,017 --> 01:15:13,052
Arista Records took it
out of circulation,
1398
01:15:13,152 --> 01:15:14,621
and then, to top it all off,
1399
01:15:14,721 --> 01:15:17,056
there were, like, two dozen
class action lawsuits
1400
01:15:17,156 --> 01:15:18,758
from fans who were just pissed.
1401
01:15:18,858 --> 01:15:21,728
- A California woman who
bought the album for her son
1402
01:15:21,828 --> 01:15:23,562
is suing to get a refund.
1403
01:15:23,663 --> 01:15:24,864
- When I listened to the music,
1404
01:15:24,964 --> 01:15:27,033
I would sort of picture them
singing,
1405
01:15:27,133 --> 01:15:28,835
and that's--that's how
I looked up to them.
1406
01:15:28,935 --> 01:15:31,170
- They sued them for fraud
and racketeering.
1407
01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:32,872
- Listen carefully
to this important message
1408
01:15:32,972 --> 01:15:34,240
about a pending
Milli Vanilli lawsuit
1409
01:15:34,340 --> 01:15:37,176
that may affect your rights.
1410
01:15:37,276 --> 01:15:40,012
- I remember being surprised
by the animosity,
1411
01:15:40,112 --> 01:15:41,814
and the amount of anger
behind that
1412
01:15:41,914 --> 01:15:43,883
seemed outsized
for what happened.
1413
01:15:43,983 --> 01:15:45,718
- I mean, Milli Vanilli,
to be clear,
1414
01:15:45,818 --> 01:15:48,187
had a largely white audience,
1415
01:15:48,287 --> 01:15:51,390
so a part of the betrayal
that was felt was,
1416
01:15:51,490 --> 01:15:53,159
"I can't believe
I listened to these Black guys
1417
01:15:53,259 --> 01:15:54,393
singing these songs and
it really wasn't them."
1418
01:15:54,493 --> 01:15:55,862
- You're gonna have
a movie now,
1419
01:15:55,962 --> 01:15:58,264
"The Milli Vanilli Story."
Is that beautiful?
1420
01:15:58,364 --> 01:16:00,800
I play Fab, one of the dudes
in Milli Vanilli.
1421
01:16:00,900 --> 01:16:04,637
- * Girl, I love you
- * I love you
1422
01:16:04,737 --> 01:16:08,140
- It was really ugly to see
that sort of hostility
1423
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,910
directed at Rob and Fab.
1424
01:16:11,010 --> 01:16:12,645
- Rob Pilatus told
"The LA Times" that
1425
01:16:12,745 --> 01:16:16,716
his family back in Germany was
getting harassed as well.
1426
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,455
- Management was gone.
1427
01:16:23,555 --> 01:16:26,125
Label was gone.
1428
01:16:26,225 --> 01:16:28,494
- No representative of
a major record company
1429
01:16:28,594 --> 01:16:32,832
would discuss them with CNN
on camera.
1430
01:16:32,932 --> 01:16:35,501
- Frank came out of it
unscathed.
1431
01:16:48,414 --> 01:16:52,118
- Rob and Fab deserved to
be called out, certainly.
1432
01:16:52,218 --> 01:16:54,721
But it was weird that
people didn't come down on
1433
01:16:54,821 --> 01:16:57,757
Frank and Arista and Clive
1434
01:16:57,857 --> 01:17:00,326
in the way that
you would think.
1435
01:17:00,426 --> 01:17:02,161
There was plausible
deniability, I think,
1436
01:17:02,261 --> 01:17:03,629
for Arista, anyway.
1437
01:17:03,730 --> 01:17:06,365
I mean, it was easy for them
to say, "We didn't know,"
1438
01:17:06,465 --> 01:17:08,600
and nobody could prove that
they knew it,
1439
01:17:08,701 --> 01:17:10,803
so they got off the hook.
1440
01:17:27,253 --> 01:17:28,888
- I mean,
I just know personally,
1441
01:17:28,988 --> 01:17:30,356
that we knew before
the Grammys,
1442
01:17:30,456 --> 01:17:32,458
so there's no--there was
no question about it.
1443
01:17:33,893 --> 01:17:35,227
- Yeah, maybe six months
before.
1444
01:17:35,327 --> 01:17:38,397
[soft tense music]
1445
01:17:38,497 --> 01:17:40,666
*
1446
01:17:40,767 --> 01:17:42,969
"Why didn't anybody from
the label speak out,"
1447
01:17:43,069 --> 01:17:44,703
is that what you're asking me?
1448
01:17:44,804 --> 01:17:46,272
- Yeah.
1449
01:17:46,372 --> 01:17:48,207
- That's a--
that's a good question.
1450
01:17:48,307 --> 01:17:50,209
I mean, I can't--
1451
01:17:52,311 --> 01:17:53,813
I have to answer truthfully,
1452
01:17:53,913 --> 01:17:56,548
and I would have to say that,
1453
01:17:56,648 --> 01:18:00,386
that, yeah, I believe that
Clive felt that this
1454
01:18:00,486 --> 01:18:02,488
not only wasn't good
for Arista,
1455
01:18:02,588 --> 01:18:05,391
but wasn't really good for
his reputation
1456
01:18:05,491 --> 01:18:07,760
and for his, you know, history.
1457
01:18:09,829 --> 01:18:13,265
- The record company and
industry has all of the power,
1458
01:18:13,365 --> 01:18:15,467
so they're gonna use
everything they can
1459
01:18:15,567 --> 01:18:19,071
to point the direction at
Rob and Fab.
1460
01:18:19,171 --> 01:18:20,807
"Don't look at,
we sold these million records.
1461
01:18:20,907 --> 01:18:24,443
"Don't look at the fact that
someone inside of our industry
1462
01:18:24,543 --> 01:18:27,179
"had to have known
this was going on.
1463
01:18:27,279 --> 01:18:30,917
"No, it's these two guys
who barely speak English.
1464
01:18:31,017 --> 01:18:33,252
It's their fault."
1465
01:18:48,167 --> 01:18:49,902
- Not only did Frank have
no problem
1466
01:18:50,002 --> 01:18:52,304
exploiting Rob and Fab,
1467
01:18:52,404 --> 01:18:56,042
but he also seemed to
think them foolish
1468
01:18:56,142 --> 01:18:59,411
and beneath him.
1469
01:18:59,511 --> 01:19:01,780
And just like his lineage of
1470
01:19:01,881 --> 01:19:06,252
treating Black artists as
disposable,
1471
01:19:06,352 --> 01:19:11,123
he chose to get what he needed
and disposed of them.
1472
01:19:11,223 --> 01:19:12,624
- We regret it.
- We regretted it...
1473
01:19:12,724 --> 01:19:14,060
200,000 times.
1474
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:15,828
Lying in front of my mom,
1475
01:19:15,928 --> 01:19:17,196
lying in front of the job.
1476
01:19:17,296 --> 01:19:18,664
- Everybody.
- Lying in front of everybody.
1477
01:19:18,764 --> 01:19:21,868
- They were young,
just like me,
1478
01:19:21,968 --> 01:19:24,904
looking to achieve something
1479
01:19:25,004 --> 01:19:27,239
in the music branch,
1480
01:19:27,339 --> 01:19:29,575
just like me.
1481
01:19:29,675 --> 01:19:32,211
So what do you do?
1482
01:19:32,311 --> 01:19:33,946
[soft resonant music]
1483
01:19:34,046 --> 01:19:39,185
You followed the light,
but it's the wrong light.
1484
01:19:39,285 --> 01:19:42,889
At the end of the tunnel,
the light goes out,
1485
01:19:42,989 --> 01:19:46,025
and what happens?
1486
01:19:46,125 --> 01:19:48,895
Don't nobody care.
1487
01:19:48,995 --> 01:19:50,963
*
1488
01:19:51,063 --> 01:19:54,633
It's just another scandal.
1489
01:19:54,733 --> 01:19:57,369
- And the number one new job
for Milli Vanilli, "Who cares?
1490
01:19:57,469 --> 01:20:00,472
Just as long as we don't
hear from them ever again."
1491
01:20:05,311 --> 01:20:08,214
[soft music]
1492
01:20:08,314 --> 01:20:10,482
*
1493
01:20:24,763 --> 01:20:29,335
*
1494
01:20:54,326 --> 01:21:01,000
*
1495
01:21:02,068 --> 01:21:04,136
- Just when you thought
there couldn't possibly be
1496
01:21:04,236 --> 01:21:05,571
another twist to the story--
1497
01:21:17,749 --> 01:21:20,719
- So, you know,
the thing about Frank,
1498
01:21:20,819 --> 01:21:22,721
he's always a step ahead
of everybody, right?
1499
01:21:22,821 --> 01:21:25,191
[funky pop music]
1500
01:21:25,291 --> 01:21:27,459
He had already recorded
the second record,
1501
01:21:27,559 --> 01:21:29,028
and he dropped it,
1502
01:21:29,128 --> 01:21:31,163
like, right after
this whole thing blew up.
1503
01:21:31,263 --> 01:21:34,533
*
1504
01:21:34,633 --> 01:21:36,568
- Frank Farian called me up
and said,
1505
01:21:36,668 --> 01:21:40,206
"John, now you and Brad are
gonna be stars of the show."
1506
01:21:40,306 --> 01:21:42,474
* Elaborate on the microphone
1507
01:21:42,574 --> 01:21:44,376
* Pumping some knowledge
'cause my brain ain't stoned *
1508
01:21:44,476 --> 01:21:46,012
- It's called
The Real Milli Vanilli,
1509
01:21:46,112 --> 01:21:48,347
"The Moment of Truth."
1510
01:21:48,447 --> 01:21:52,318
But again,
it's all another facade.
1511
01:21:52,418 --> 01:21:53,919
This guy was never
in the band.
1512
01:21:54,020 --> 01:21:56,722
He's just another guy
who Frank recruited.
1513
01:21:56,822 --> 01:21:58,824
- That girl had nothing to
do with the first album,
1514
01:21:58,924 --> 01:22:01,227
she had nothing to do with
the second album.
1515
01:22:01,327 --> 01:22:04,863
- We are still on that album,
Jodie and I.
1516
01:22:04,963 --> 01:22:09,335
But Frank said, no touring,
no video, no being seen.
1517
01:22:09,435 --> 01:22:11,603
- * Listen to what he says
1518
01:22:11,703 --> 01:22:12,838
- "Linda, hope you understand.
1519
01:22:12,938 --> 01:22:14,240
"I have a certain
look that I want.
1520
01:22:14,340 --> 01:22:15,741
You're not Black."
1521
01:22:15,841 --> 01:22:17,943
- * I'm not into bragging,
strutting, or bigotry *
1522
01:22:18,044 --> 01:22:19,811
* Or bigotry
1523
01:22:19,911 --> 01:22:22,348
- Don't ask me how I felt.
Well, go ahead, ask me.
1524
01:22:22,448 --> 01:22:24,216
- Yeah, how did you feel?
- I felt horrible!
1525
01:22:24,316 --> 01:22:26,018
- Oh, I was incensed.
1526
01:22:26,118 --> 01:22:29,755
- * Keep on running, baby
1527
01:22:29,855 --> 01:22:32,124
- You've got to be kidding me.
1528
01:22:32,224 --> 01:22:34,926
It was almost as big a lie
as the first Milli Vanilli.
1529
01:22:35,027 --> 01:22:36,528
- * Keep on running
1530
01:22:36,628 --> 01:22:39,031
- This was Frank's MO.
- * Baby
1531
01:22:39,131 --> 01:22:40,966
- He already did Boney M.,
1532
01:22:41,067 --> 01:22:44,736
and then Milli Vanilli,
and he's like, "Hey, man,
1533
01:22:44,836 --> 01:22:46,772
this is
my 'Fast and Furious 10'."
1534
01:22:46,872 --> 01:22:48,274
I'm just gonna keep
making these things
1535
01:22:48,374 --> 01:22:50,376
because you love 'em,"
1536
01:22:50,476 --> 01:22:54,080
so why would
he change his stripes?
1537
01:22:54,180 --> 01:22:58,050
[applause]
1538
01:22:58,150 --> 01:23:01,253
- Do you know what they are
doing now, Rob and Fab?
1539
01:23:01,353 --> 01:23:02,988
- Well, they have
a new single out--
1540
01:23:03,089 --> 01:23:05,257
- It's not out yet.
- It's not out actually.
1541
01:23:05,357 --> 01:23:06,792
They don't--
they don't have a label.
1542
01:23:06,892 --> 01:23:08,894
A lot of record companies are
scared to touch them right now
1543
01:23:08,994 --> 01:23:11,163
because, well, if you know
somebody can't sing,
1544
01:23:11,263 --> 01:23:12,464
why produce them?
1545
01:23:12,564 --> 01:23:14,966
- So you want to sing
a little bit for us?
1546
01:23:15,067 --> 01:23:17,469
- Yeah, we come in here
with our live band
1547
01:23:17,569 --> 01:23:18,570
and we would love to sing.
1548
01:23:18,670 --> 01:23:20,038
- No, how about right now?
1549
01:23:20,139 --> 01:23:21,440
Sing something off your album.
1550
01:23:21,540 --> 01:23:23,909
- Um...
- [clears throat]
1551
01:23:24,009 --> 01:23:25,811
- Some of the verse from
the first single?
1552
01:23:25,911 --> 01:23:28,414
- Uh, yeah, OK.
1553
01:23:28,514 --> 01:23:31,016
* Girl
Back together.
1554
01:23:31,117 --> 01:23:32,318
- * Girl
1555
01:23:32,418 --> 01:23:36,555
both:
* Do you want to get it on
1556
01:23:36,655 --> 01:23:40,659
* Then tell me now
1557
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,330
- Now Rob and Fab are
courageously trying to
1558
01:23:44,430 --> 01:23:46,932
make a comeback,
real voices and all.
1559
01:23:47,032 --> 01:23:50,236
both: * I just want to be
your everything *
1560
01:23:50,336 --> 01:23:52,838
- For the last year, they've
been working on a new album,
1561
01:23:52,938 --> 01:23:55,341
on the dance steps,
and on the singing.
1562
01:23:55,441 --> 01:23:57,609
They've got a new sexy video.
1563
01:23:57,709 --> 01:24:01,580
- * Girl, can you tell me now
1564
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,216
* Straight up what's up
1565
01:24:04,316 --> 01:24:06,352
-* So what's a man
supposed to do *
1566
01:24:06,452 --> 01:24:11,757
* Oh
- * Do you want to get it on
1567
01:24:12,958 --> 01:24:15,594
- So this is
the "We Can Get It On"
1568
01:24:15,694 --> 01:24:19,265
12 inch LP single by Rob & Fab.
1569
01:24:19,365 --> 01:24:21,400
They're just, like, badasses,
you know?
1570
01:24:21,500 --> 01:24:23,435
They're like,
"Yeah, we're hot. We know it."
1571
01:24:23,535 --> 01:24:24,703
[laughs]
1572
01:24:26,138 --> 01:24:30,075
The expectation of the record
was based on curiosity alone
1573
01:24:30,176 --> 01:24:33,745
they could sell a million
copies of the record.
1574
01:24:33,845 --> 01:24:38,884
But the Rob & Fab album
sold 2,000 copies worldwide,
1575
01:24:38,984 --> 01:24:42,754
which is not good.
1576
01:24:42,854 --> 01:24:45,724
- By the time the
Rob & Fab record came out,
1577
01:24:45,824 --> 01:24:48,059
people were just
not that interested
1578
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:49,361
in the spectacle anymore.
1579
01:24:49,461 --> 01:24:52,564
*
1580
01:25:07,746 --> 01:25:14,420
- That's when we...grew apart.
1581
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:18,724
Rob was going in
his own tunnel
1582
01:25:18,824 --> 01:25:21,627
and didn't want to come out,
really.
1583
01:25:39,611 --> 01:25:44,182
- The team Rob and Fab
had fractured.
1584
01:25:44,283 --> 01:25:49,655
He didn't see me as--
as his brother anymore.
1585
01:25:49,755 --> 01:25:52,023
And that hurt.
1586
01:26:24,256 --> 01:26:26,124
- Now, where have you been
for the past six years?
1587
01:26:26,224 --> 01:26:28,059
- Well, the past six years,
I was in Los Angeles
1588
01:26:28,159 --> 01:26:29,661
undercover, you know,
doing my thing.
1589
01:26:29,761 --> 01:26:31,229
- You have an accent.
Where are you from?
1590
01:26:31,330 --> 01:26:32,230
- I'm from Paris. I'm French.
1591
01:26:32,331 --> 01:26:33,565
- From Paris.
- Yeah.
1592
01:26:33,665 --> 01:26:35,301
- Now, listen,
you've got some new music...
1593
01:26:35,401 --> 01:26:36,668
- That's true, yeah.
1594
01:26:36,768 --> 01:26:38,837
- And you are actually singing
on this damn thing.
1595
01:26:38,937 --> 01:26:40,706
- That's right.
- Yeah.
1596
01:26:40,806 --> 01:26:42,908
Put it together
for Fabrice Morvan.
1597
01:26:43,008 --> 01:26:44,710
["Love Revolution" playing]
1598
01:26:44,810 --> 01:26:47,779
- * Come on, children
1599
01:26:47,879 --> 01:26:50,516
both:
* If you see what I see
1600
01:26:50,616 --> 01:26:52,918
* And you know what I feel
1601
01:26:53,018 --> 01:26:55,053
- For me,
performing was vindication.
1602
01:26:55,153 --> 01:26:58,690
both:
* And we'll find a solution
1603
01:26:58,790 --> 01:27:01,793
- I was able to, like,
blossom as a singer
1604
01:27:01,893 --> 01:27:04,129
and do what I was supposed
to do in the first place.
1605
01:27:04,229 --> 01:27:10,336
* Everybody,
join the love revolution *
1606
01:27:10,436 --> 01:27:12,538
[cheers and applause]
1607
01:27:12,638 --> 01:27:14,340
- Lovely!
- Come on.
1608
01:27:14,440 --> 01:27:15,707
- Hi, baby.
- Hi.
1609
01:27:15,807 --> 01:27:18,176
- Hey, listen.
Do you ever see Rob anymore?
1610
01:27:18,276 --> 01:27:20,512
- Well, we don't talk
as much as we used to
1611
01:27:20,612 --> 01:27:21,647
because he's doing
his own thing,
1612
01:27:21,747 --> 01:27:22,781
I'm doing my own thing,
you know?
1613
01:27:22,881 --> 01:27:24,215
We kind of went apart,
you know?
1614
01:27:24,316 --> 01:27:26,084
Bands broke up and
they do their own thing.
1615
01:27:26,184 --> 01:27:27,419
- Sure.
- That's what happened.
1616
01:27:27,519 --> 01:27:28,720
- You done joined
the love revolution.
1617
01:27:28,820 --> 01:27:30,622
- That's right.
- Where do I sign up?
1618
01:27:30,722 --> 01:27:33,559
[soft dramatic music]
1619
01:27:33,659 --> 01:27:35,627
*
1620
01:27:35,727 --> 01:27:40,065
- I was at The Viper Room.
1621
01:27:40,165 --> 01:27:42,868
I was outside.
1622
01:27:42,968 --> 01:27:47,573
I see a dude stumbling
across the way.
1623
01:27:47,673 --> 01:27:50,576
As he was falling,
his body turned
1624
01:27:50,676 --> 01:27:52,878
and I looked into his eyes
and I was like,
1625
01:27:52,978 --> 01:27:55,313
"Oh, my God. This is not true."
1626
01:27:57,949 --> 01:28:01,720
I'm looking at Rob Pilatus.
1627
01:28:01,820 --> 01:28:03,489
So I crossed the street,
1628
01:28:03,589 --> 01:28:04,823
I picked him up,
1629
01:28:04,923 --> 01:28:09,227
and I said, "Hey, Rob.
It's Fab."
1630
01:28:10,829 --> 01:28:12,598
"Rob, it's Fab.
1631
01:28:12,698 --> 01:28:14,966
Where do you live?"
1632
01:28:15,066 --> 01:28:18,169
And then he said, "There.
1633
01:28:19,571 --> 01:28:22,107
So we ring the doorbell.
1634
01:28:22,207 --> 01:28:23,775
We're like,
"Hey, we're there with Rob.
1635
01:28:23,875 --> 01:28:26,645
Like, this is
where he live, yes?"
1636
01:28:26,745 --> 01:28:29,047
"Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bring him in.
1637
01:28:29,147 --> 01:28:30,716
"It's our boy, man.
We--you know,
1638
01:28:30,816 --> 01:28:33,151
he--sometimes,
he just wanders."
1639
01:28:33,251 --> 01:28:35,421
And I'm like,
"Oh, that looks like
1640
01:28:35,521 --> 01:28:36,688
a crack house to me, man."
1641
01:28:36,788 --> 01:28:38,890
*
1642
01:28:38,990 --> 01:28:43,361
They were doing heavy drugs
in that--in that room.
1643
01:28:45,130 --> 01:28:49,768
I'm not surprised
'cause I heard
1644
01:28:49,868 --> 01:28:52,438
that's what he's been doing
for a long time.
1645
01:28:52,538 --> 01:28:55,340
But to actually see
1646
01:28:55,441 --> 01:28:58,577
my brother in the street
1647
01:28:58,677 --> 01:29:01,012
looking like this,
1648
01:29:01,112 --> 01:29:04,716
and looking back at
my dude in his prime...
1649
01:29:04,816 --> 01:29:08,754
*
1650
01:29:08,854 --> 01:29:12,591
Man, it was like, "Phew."
1651
01:29:12,691 --> 01:29:16,261
I didn't know what to say.
1652
01:29:32,644 --> 01:29:35,481
[soft dramatic music]
1653
01:29:35,581 --> 01:29:42,387
*
1654
01:29:57,368 --> 01:29:59,571
- What'd they do?
They just pulled you over?
1655
01:29:59,671 --> 01:30:01,139
- Yeah, they pulled me over,
man.
1656
01:30:01,239 --> 01:30:02,508
Unfortunately.
1657
01:30:13,151 --> 01:30:16,254
- He was lost.
Everything had failed.
1658
01:30:16,354 --> 01:30:19,457
He had not been satisfied with
anything that he'd ever done.
1659
01:30:38,276 --> 01:30:41,246
*
1660
01:31:27,025 --> 01:31:30,461
- He came back from
Oberberg Clinic
1661
01:31:30,562 --> 01:31:35,466
and he stayed at a hotel
close to my house.
1662
01:31:35,567 --> 01:31:38,436
Next morning, 10:00,
I called, no answer.
1663
01:31:38,536 --> 01:31:39,671
11:00, no answer.
1664
01:31:39,771 --> 01:31:41,506
12:00, no answer.
1665
01:31:43,208 --> 01:31:46,044
At 2:00, I said, "I'm going to
the hotel right now."
1666
01:31:46,144 --> 01:31:50,048
And we go to his door
1667
01:31:50,148 --> 01:31:52,718
and the chain was from inside,
1668
01:31:52,818 --> 01:31:56,287
so the house master
has to open it.
1669
01:31:58,624 --> 01:32:02,961
And--and he was laying there
on--on the floor,
1670
01:32:03,061 --> 01:32:06,965
just with shorts.
1671
01:32:09,768 --> 01:32:11,236
Yeah.
1672
01:32:11,336 --> 01:32:12,704
And I was...
1673
01:32:52,978 --> 01:32:54,713
- The call came in.
1674
01:32:54,813 --> 01:32:57,015
"Rob is dead."
1675
01:32:58,016 --> 01:33:00,151
I was like, "Wow."
1676
01:33:00,251 --> 01:33:04,555
And then I went into, like,
a state of shock.
1677
01:33:04,656 --> 01:33:08,493
And I didn't move for
a long time.
1678
01:33:14,866 --> 01:33:17,703
[somber music]
1679
01:33:17,803 --> 01:33:24,776
*
1680
01:34:17,028 --> 01:34:24,202
*
1681
01:34:29,274 --> 01:34:31,709
- I lost a family member.
1682
01:34:31,810 --> 01:34:33,912
*
1683
01:34:34,012 --> 01:34:35,847
I lost a brother.
1684
01:34:35,947 --> 01:34:39,050
*
1685
01:34:39,150 --> 01:34:43,721
I lost someone that was there
with me, walking in my shoes.
1686
01:34:43,822 --> 01:34:48,126
*
1687
01:34:48,226 --> 01:34:50,695
[softly]
You know?
1688
01:34:50,796 --> 01:34:52,497
[sniffles,
chuckles softly]
1689
01:34:54,599 --> 01:34:56,234
That's it.
1690
01:35:13,919 --> 01:35:18,023
When I went to Holland,
1691
01:35:18,123 --> 01:35:21,292
I was running away
from my past.
1692
01:35:24,729 --> 01:35:28,133
- He'd introduced himself
as Fabrice,
1693
01:35:28,233 --> 01:35:31,436
but I didn't know who he was.
1694
01:35:33,471 --> 01:35:35,273
He had such short hair,
1695
01:35:35,373 --> 01:35:39,210
and he has a different face
when he has short hair.
1696
01:35:39,310 --> 01:35:40,979
So in the beginning, actually,
when we were dating,
1697
01:35:41,079 --> 01:35:42,647
people were like,
"Hey, Tessa, hey, Tessa."
1698
01:35:42,747 --> 01:35:44,782
"Hey, I'll see you tomorrow,"
and, you know,
1699
01:35:44,883 --> 01:35:46,251
I was the one being recognized.
1700
01:35:46,351 --> 01:35:51,622
So there was no signs that
he was Milli Vanilli.
1701
01:35:51,722 --> 01:35:53,825
[soft music]
1702
01:35:53,925 --> 01:35:55,326
We had just fun together,
1703
01:35:55,426 --> 01:35:56,794
and we were working out
together,
1704
01:35:56,895 --> 01:35:59,330
and we had those dates.
1705
01:35:59,430 --> 01:36:01,399
I start to really
like this guy,
1706
01:36:01,499 --> 01:36:03,134
and you talk with
your friends about,
1707
01:36:03,234 --> 01:36:06,371
you know,
your new dating experience.
1708
01:36:06,471 --> 01:36:08,739
One of them said,
"Dude, that's Milli Vanilli.
1709
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:10,241
Hello."
[chuckles]
1710
01:36:10,341 --> 01:36:11,809
And I was like, "Well, OK.
1711
01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:13,444
"If that's Milli Vanilli, fine,
1712
01:36:13,544 --> 01:36:15,480
because I like Fabrice, so..."
1713
01:36:18,083 --> 01:36:24,622
- I didn't think she would,
like, want to be with me.
1714
01:36:24,722 --> 01:36:29,160
I had to tell her, "Listen,
my life is not great."
1715
01:36:29,260 --> 01:36:32,030
- I was like,
"Well, don't worry, you know?
1716
01:36:32,130 --> 01:36:33,798
I got you."
1717
01:36:33,899 --> 01:36:36,868
[pan sizzling]
1718
01:36:38,870 --> 01:36:40,005
- You already, Sach?
1719
01:36:40,105 --> 01:36:41,172
Drum roll.
1720
01:36:41,272 --> 01:36:43,774
- One, two, and three.
1721
01:36:43,875 --> 01:36:46,711
Flip!
- Oh!
1722
01:36:46,811 --> 01:36:48,914
When Sacha came,
1723
01:36:49,014 --> 01:36:51,249
when Solange came,
1724
01:36:51,349 --> 01:36:56,587
and now Vince and Paris came,
1725
01:36:56,687 --> 01:36:59,390
then things started
flourishing all around me.
1726
01:36:59,490 --> 01:37:01,259
What?
- Hey, Sacha, look!
1727
01:37:01,359 --> 01:37:02,760
He's holding the bottle.
- [giggles]
1728
01:37:02,860 --> 01:37:04,395
- That's a first.
1729
01:37:04,495 --> 01:37:06,631
Look at that.
- Cute.
1730
01:37:06,731 --> 01:37:09,134
[laughter]
1731
01:37:09,234 --> 01:37:11,536
- It's amazing
1732
01:37:11,636 --> 01:37:14,872
to realize that
there is another side
1733
01:37:14,973 --> 01:37:17,008
at the end of the tunnel.
1734
01:37:17,108 --> 01:37:18,876
- Together.
- Together?
1735
01:37:18,977 --> 01:37:22,147
- Pink.
- You want pink? OK.
1736
01:37:22,247 --> 01:37:24,415
It changed everything for me,
1737
01:37:24,515 --> 01:37:26,817
and that part was like,
"Hey..."
1738
01:37:26,918 --> 01:37:28,319
Well done, Sach.
1739
01:37:28,419 --> 01:37:32,090
"You don't have to be ashamed
about nothing."
1740
01:37:32,190 --> 01:37:38,696
*
1741
01:37:39,864 --> 01:37:41,432
- Because of the way
human beings and
1742
01:37:41,532 --> 01:37:44,569
their minds are built,
1743
01:37:44,669 --> 01:37:49,774
Milli Vanilli's legacy is
they deceived the public
1744
01:37:49,874 --> 01:37:53,711
and tried to get away with it,
and then they didn't.
1745
01:37:53,811 --> 01:37:58,049
But what it should be
is a cautionary tale.
1746
01:37:58,149 --> 01:38:00,952
*
1747
01:38:01,052 --> 01:38:04,255
- All of the answers about
how pop music is made
1748
01:38:04,355 --> 01:38:07,925
rest in this story.
1749
01:38:08,026 --> 01:38:12,197
What we want to believe
our pop musicians to be
1750
01:38:12,297 --> 01:38:13,731
versus what they actually are.
1751
01:38:13,831 --> 01:38:17,468
*
1752
01:38:17,568 --> 01:38:22,707
- Show business is all part of
an illusion.
1753
01:38:22,807 --> 01:38:26,211
- But that is what pop music
is supposed to do.
1754
01:38:26,311 --> 01:38:29,014
It's supposed to take us to
an elsewhere.
1755
01:38:29,114 --> 01:38:31,416
*
1756
01:38:31,516 --> 01:38:35,186
Even if we say, "These people
deceived the public,"
1757
01:38:35,286 --> 01:38:36,921
so fucking what?
1758
01:38:37,022 --> 01:38:38,956
[cheers and applause]
1759
01:38:39,057 --> 01:38:40,625
Who was this harming?
1760
01:38:40,725 --> 01:38:45,196
*
1761
01:38:45,296 --> 01:38:48,533
- * Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you
1762
01:38:48,633 --> 01:38:51,102
I've met people that told me,
1763
01:38:51,202 --> 01:38:53,538
"Because of your voice,
1764
01:38:53,638 --> 01:38:56,107
my daughter's here today."
[chuckles]
1765
01:38:57,642 --> 01:39:00,945
- It was such a big thing
for a lot of people.
1766
01:39:01,046 --> 01:39:05,216
- So many people went to their
high school prom with that.
1767
01:39:05,316 --> 01:39:08,086
That was good music,
1768
01:39:08,186 --> 01:39:09,587
and it's good music today.
1769
01:39:09,687 --> 01:39:11,989
[cheers and applause]
1770
01:39:12,090 --> 01:39:14,259
- There's no real crime here,
1771
01:39:14,359 --> 01:39:15,360
if we're being honest.
1772
01:39:15,460 --> 01:39:19,064
*
1773
01:39:19,164 --> 01:39:21,066
But it cost a life.
1774
01:39:21,166 --> 01:39:24,469
*
1775
01:39:24,569 --> 01:39:29,707
It also cost both of them
lives that they could have had.
1776
01:39:29,807 --> 01:39:33,611
*
1777
01:39:33,711 --> 01:39:38,283
And the heartbreaking thing is
that their legacy then became
1778
01:39:38,383 --> 01:39:40,718
that of a punch line.
1779
01:39:40,818 --> 01:39:46,991
*
1780
01:39:48,059 --> 01:39:54,465
- There was a time when
I would avoid going in public
1781
01:39:54,565 --> 01:39:59,704
because when I heard someone
laugh,
1782
01:39:59,804 --> 01:40:02,973
I always thought it was
directed to me.
1783
01:40:03,074 --> 01:40:06,177
*
1784
01:40:06,277 --> 01:40:11,916
But now I've reached a point
where I've embraced the past.
1785
01:40:14,952 --> 01:40:19,090
I'm proud of being
Milli Vanilli.
1786
01:40:19,190 --> 01:40:21,826
I'm proud of being who I am.
1787
01:40:23,161 --> 01:40:29,567
*
1788
01:40:29,667 --> 01:40:32,703
We're going back down
memory lane with some more.
1789
01:40:32,803 --> 01:40:35,140
["Blame It On The Rain"
playing]
1790
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:37,808
* Woo
1791
01:40:37,908 --> 01:40:39,644
*
1792
01:40:39,744 --> 01:40:42,046
* Got to blame it on
something *
1793
01:40:42,147 --> 01:40:45,650
* Got to blame it on something,
come on *
1794
01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:50,621
* Blame it on the rain
that was falling, falling *
1795
01:40:50,721 --> 01:40:55,726
* Blame it on the stars
that didn't shine that night *
1796
01:40:55,826 --> 01:41:00,765
* Whatever you do,
don't put the blame on you *
1797
01:41:00,865 --> 01:41:04,569
* Blame it on the rain,
yeah, yeah *
1798
01:41:04,669 --> 01:41:06,604
When people think of
Milli Vanilli...
1799
01:41:06,704 --> 01:41:08,038
* You can blame it
on the rain *
1800
01:41:08,139 --> 01:41:10,841
The one thing I want people
to think of is that
1801
01:41:10,941 --> 01:41:11,776
when you fall...
1802
01:41:11,876 --> 01:41:13,378
* And the rain don't care
1803
01:41:13,478 --> 01:41:14,779
You can stand back up.
1804
01:41:14,879 --> 01:41:18,249
* You got to blame it
on something *
1805
01:41:18,349 --> 01:41:20,251
* Blame it on the rain
1806
01:41:20,351 --> 01:41:24,589
And Rob is part of that.
1807
01:41:24,689 --> 01:41:28,259
I am honoring his name
every time I perform onstage.
1808
01:41:28,359 --> 01:41:32,730
* Whatever you do,
don't put the blame on you *
1809
01:41:32,830 --> 01:41:36,167
You fall, you stand back up,
and you reinvent yourself.
1810
01:41:36,267 --> 01:41:40,605
* Yeah, yeah
1811
01:41:40,705 --> 01:41:43,040
That's the legacy.
1812
01:41:43,140 --> 01:41:48,246
* Blame it on the rain
that was falling, falling *
1813
01:41:48,346 --> 01:41:50,415
crowd:
* Blame it on the stars
1814
01:41:50,515 --> 01:41:53,017
- * That didn't shine
that night *
1815
01:41:53,117 --> 01:41:58,423
* Whatever you do,
don't put the blame on you *
1816
01:41:58,523 --> 01:42:02,059
* Blame it on the rain
1817
01:42:02,159 --> 01:42:07,532
* Yeah, yeah
1818
01:42:10,235 --> 01:42:13,238
["Baby Don't Forget My Number"
playing]
1819
01:42:13,338 --> 01:42:20,278
*
1820
01:42:38,729 --> 01:42:40,898
- * Baby, don't be shy
when you're holding my hand *
1821
01:42:40,998 --> 01:42:43,368
* 'Cause as time goes by,
you got to understand *
1822
01:42:43,468 --> 01:42:45,202
* It's you
1823
01:42:45,303 --> 01:42:47,972
- * That it's with you
1824
01:42:48,072 --> 01:42:50,475
- * Ba-ba-ba-ba baby, in your
eyes I see it so clearly *
1825
01:42:50,575 --> 01:42:53,978
* That our love is so strong
and you never go wrong *
1826
01:42:54,078 --> 01:42:57,748
- * Baby
- * I did the best for you
1827
01:42:57,848 --> 01:43:00,050
- * So when you're in doubt
and you're needing someone *
1828
01:43:00,150 --> 01:43:03,654
* Baby, call my line,
call me anytime *
1829
01:43:03,754 --> 01:43:06,090
- * Baby
- * I'll be there for you
1830
01:43:06,190 --> 01:43:08,259
*
1831
01:43:08,359 --> 01:43:13,331
* I've been searching high
- * High
1832
01:43:13,431 --> 01:43:15,566
- * I've been searching low
1833
01:43:15,666 --> 01:43:17,302
*
1834
01:43:17,402 --> 01:43:18,603
* Ba-ba-ba-ba
1835
01:43:18,703 --> 01:43:22,440
* Ba-ba-ba-ba baby
1836
01:43:22,540 --> 01:43:26,844
* Don't forget my number
1837
01:43:26,944 --> 01:43:32,049
- * Ba-ba-ba-ba,
ba-ba-ba-ba baby *
1838
01:43:32,149 --> 01:43:36,521
- * Love is stronger
than thunder *
1839
01:43:36,621 --> 01:43:41,459
* Ba-ba-ba-ba,
ba-ba-ba-ba baby *
1840
01:43:41,559 --> 01:43:46,364
* Don't forget my number
1841
01:43:46,464 --> 01:43:50,668
* Love will see you through
1842
01:43:50,768 --> 01:43:55,406
- * I've been searching high
1843
01:43:55,506 --> 01:44:00,845
* I've been searching low
1844
01:44:00,945 --> 01:44:04,248
* Want to spend my life
1845
01:44:04,349 --> 01:44:08,252
* With you
1846
01:44:08,353 --> 01:44:10,488
* Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
1847
01:44:10,588 --> 01:44:12,890
* Ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba
1848
01:44:12,990 --> 01:44:15,393
* Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
1849
01:44:15,493 --> 01:44:17,662
* And I dance with you
1850
01:44:17,762 --> 01:44:19,964
* Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
1851
01:44:20,064 --> 01:44:22,500
* Ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba
1852
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:24,669
* Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
1853
01:44:24,769 --> 01:44:28,305
* Love will see you through
1854
01:44:28,406 --> 01:44:30,908
* Ba-ba-ba baby, in your eyes
I can it so good *
1855
01:44:31,008 --> 01:44:34,345
* That our love is so strong
and you never go wrong *
1856
01:44:34,445 --> 01:44:38,048
- * Baby
- * I do my best for you
1857
01:44:38,148 --> 01:44:40,317
* So when you're in doubt
and you're needing someone *
1858
01:44:40,418 --> 01:44:44,021
* Baby, call my line,
call me anytime *
1859
01:44:44,121 --> 01:44:46,357
- * Baby
- * I'll be there for you
1860
01:44:46,457 --> 01:44:48,626
* You, you
1861
01:44:48,726 --> 01:44:53,330
* I've been searching high
- * High
1862
01:44:53,431 --> 01:44:57,735
- * I've been searching low
- * Low
1863
01:44:57,835 --> 01:44:58,736
- * Ba-ba-ba-ba
1864
01:44:58,836 --> 01:45:02,773
* Ba-ba-ba-ba baby
1865
01:45:02,873 --> 01:45:07,311
* Don't forget my number
1866
01:45:07,412 --> 01:45:08,579
- * Ba-ba-ba-ba
1867
01:45:08,679 --> 01:45:12,282
* Ba-ba-ba-ba baby
1868
01:45:12,383 --> 01:45:16,687
- * Love is stronger
than thunder *
1869
01:45:16,787 --> 01:45:17,955
* Ba-ba-ba-ba
1870
01:45:18,055 --> 01:45:21,926
* Ba-ba-ba-ba baby
1871
01:45:22,026 --> 01:45:26,631
* Don't forget my number
1872
01:45:26,731 --> 01:45:30,868
* Love will see you through
1873
01:45:30,968 --> 01:45:34,104
- * I've been searching high
1874
01:45:34,204 --> 01:45:35,673
*
1875
01:45:35,773 --> 01:45:41,412
* I've been searching low
1876
01:45:41,512 --> 01:45:44,549
* Want to spend my life
1877
01:45:44,649 --> 01:45:48,586
* With you
1878
01:45:48,686 --> 01:45:50,855
- * Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
1879
01:45:50,955 --> 01:45:53,357
* Ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba
1880
01:45:53,458 --> 01:45:55,092
* Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
1881
01:45:55,192 --> 01:45:59,630
* Love will see you through
1882
01:45:59,730 --> 01:46:04,001
- * [vocalizing]
1883
01:46:04,101 --> 01:46:06,537
- * Baby, call my line,
baby, call my line *
1884
01:46:06,637 --> 01:46:08,806
- * [vocalizing]
1885
01:46:08,906 --> 01:46:11,476
- * Call me anytime
1886
01:46:11,576 --> 01:46:12,910
- * [vocalizing]
1887
01:46:13,010 --> 01:46:16,914
- * Ba-ba-ba-ba baby
1888
01:46:17,014 --> 01:46:21,686
* Don't forget my number
1889
01:46:21,786 --> 01:46:24,622
* Love will see you through
1890
01:46:24,722 --> 01:46:26,857
- Is Eddie OK?
- I don't know.
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