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- Good morning, Vietnam.
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- Really?
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(group laughs)
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- Welcome to the Erotic Book Club hosted
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by Jess Ross and Rekha Shankar.
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I am your host, Grant O'Brien.
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- And I'm Janie Stolar, hmmm?
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- And we are neither Jess nor Rekha.
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- No.
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- But Janie and I are going
to be taking you through
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this episode of the erotic book club,
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where we will be talking
about Sharing Samantha.
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A sexy little thing that we
picked up on the Internet.
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That we're gonna dive into right now
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with all you horny fuckers listening
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to this live to tape.
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- That's specifically
the people on Discord.
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That's my little nickname for them.
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- Yeah, all you horny
fuckers who use our Discord.
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- Horny fuckers?
- Horny fuckers.
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- There should be a chat on the Discord.
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- Just horny fuckers.
- Should there?
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- No, nevermind.
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- I don't see what
could possibly go wrong.
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We have two guest
experts joining us today.
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I don't know what they're experts in,
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and I don't know why I
introduced them as such,
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but to my left is Vic Michaelis.
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How do I say your last name?
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- Michaelis
- Michaelis
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- It's a weird one.
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- I've seen it written, and
in my head it's Michalis,
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and I want you to know that.
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- Yeah, well that's wrong but--
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- Sure.
- But I appreciate the effort.
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- You know, that's all
you're gonna be able to get,
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and you the audience, that's
the most you can expect
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from me is an A for effort.
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And to the right is Zac Oyama.
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- It's Zac Michalis.
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- I thought so, now
when I see that written,
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I say Michaelis in my head.
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- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, you're wrong.
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- Well, I'm used to that.
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And I also have my co-host
Janie Stolar, hello Janie.
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- Hello, wow, hi everyone,
we read some erotica.
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- Yes.
- Yeah, we did.
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- We really did.
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- I'm very glad to be
hosting this with you
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because I feel like both of
us are way down for erotica.
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- (laughs) Yeah.
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- And if it wasn't
going to Jess and Rekha,
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it probably would be the two of us,
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so this is gonna be a lot of fun.
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- A hundred percent, yes, I'm excited.
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This book, really, wow, oh my gosh.
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Should we get into it, should we start?
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- Yeah.
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- So this book basically,
like the high level plot is
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that this gal Samantha is at her stepmom's
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Thanksgiving gathering,
and ends up just having
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a lot of sex with two best friends, right?
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- They have sex like 40 times
in a day it just feels like.
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- Yeah, they cum a ton in the space of,
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I think, an hour and a half.
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- Her vagina must have not
been feeling good by the end.
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- Well that's just my question is,
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they at no point in the, what like 80,
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90 pages of this book, talk
about anybody being sore,
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and I feel like that's unrealistic.
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- That's the only unrealistic
thing about this book.
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- [Vic] Yeah, because
that was my big beef.
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- Neither of those two
best friends are like,
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hey, I just, I don't think
I'm gonna be able to go again.
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- Give me a minute.
- [Janie] Right?
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- It's been like four
times in rapid succession,
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and I'd love to--
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- Well, to be fair, we were
told that they have heavy balls.
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(group laughs)
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- Well, a couple of times.
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So they are at a
stepmother's Thanksgiving.
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- Yes.
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- Where none of them want to be.
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- No, and Samantha's
super down on her luck.
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She's just had a series of
bad events happen to her.
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- She's super down on her luck.
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- I mean rough, like she lost her job,
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her house was condemned,
there's a lot going
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on you know, she's struggling.
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- She caught her boyfriend cheating on her
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and then he is, two months later,
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now engaged to that person.
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- Can you imagine?
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- Yeah, but I'm happy for them.
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Like I'm happy they found each
other, you know what I mean?
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- But that's sort of the best sort of way
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to deal with someone wronging
you is be happy for them,
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and I think that's important
what you just said.
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- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I also just think, too, I mean they spend
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so much time setting up
everything that's wrong
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with Samantha's life, and then she's like,
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but at least it's snowing outside.
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And then she continues after that to list
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a bunch more things that
are going wrong in her life.
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- Yeah, it's rough.
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- But at least we've still got snow.
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- A little bit of snow outside.
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- I just didn't understand,
so all of this takes place
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at her stepmother's Thanksgiving,
pre-Thanksgiving party?
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- [Grant] Yeah, I think it's
the night before Thanksgiving.
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- It's the night before Thanksgiving?
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- Classic Thanksgiving eve scenario, yeah.
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- And she seemingly
invites anyone to this.
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- Right.
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- So the characters that
we have at this party,
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and presumably there are more than this,
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but here's who we know is there.
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The hostess of the party, Lynn,
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the stepmother, the matriarch,
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we have Lynn's stepdaughter,
Samantha, our heroine.
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We have Matthew?
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- Martin, you're talking about the son.
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- Martin, yeah, who's Lynn's
son and Samantha's stepbrother.
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Then we have two guys
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that Martin is trying to buy an app from.
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- Well they're trying to sell
an algorithm to a hedge fund.
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This is such a wild idea
of why they're there.
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So, I guess this Martin
fellow runs a hedge fund.
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He's a real douche, and
these two guys are there.
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They really want to sell
this algorithm to him.
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So why would Lynn have them over?
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That bumped me, that bumped me.
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- It bumped you that they had
a pitch with him weeks later,
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so they went a Thanksgiving party
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with his stepmother that
was also dry. (group laughs)
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- Yeah, Lynn doesn't like booze.
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- Yeah, no booze at this party.
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- It repeated a lot that there
was no alcohol at the party.
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- And not just go to the party,
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but spend the night at the... (laughs)
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- Spend the night.
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- Spend the night at
Lynn's house. (laughs)
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- Do you think that that's because
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then in the moments where it's like,
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when they're going at it,
they're going at this,
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like they know what they're doing.
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They're not doing this because
they're drunk and messy.
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They know what they're getting into.
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- But there's multiple moments
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in the book where people are drunk.
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There's multiple drunk driving incidents.
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- Yeah, that's true, that's true.
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- Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
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- I hope that's why.
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I have a feeling it's just shitty writing.
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- I think it was just like
how could this party suck?
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And there's no booze, so it was like--
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- Yeah, you're right, just adding
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to Samantha's misery in that way.
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- Also at the party is Samantha's ex,
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Ken, and Ken's new fiancee, some lady,
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whose name I don't remember.
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- Shelly.
- Shelly, shelly.
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- Again, invited for some reason.
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- For some reason, yeah,
they never establish how Ken
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came to be at this particular party.
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- And then after we kind of
established the characters
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and where we are, we get like a
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Faulkner style narrator shift,
which I found really lovely.
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- I actually thought that was cool.
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- It was cool.
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- That was the cool literary
device of this book.
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Every chapter you're hearing
from a different narrator.
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- Yes.
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- But sometimes not.
- Sometimes not.
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- Sometimes it just continues on.
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- Sometimes it's a new chapter
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and you're on the same narrator,
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you're like why, why, it's a new chapter.
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- Which I also say about
Faulkner. (Janie laughs)
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As I Lay Dying is chaos.
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- Do we need to hear from the baby?
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Like why are we doing this, so--
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- I would like to call one of
the characters rose of Sharon,
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and I think I'm going to start doing that,
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and you won't know who I mean.
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- So when she's having this interaction,
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she's talking to her ex,
Ken, and this guy comes up
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and tries to sweep her off her feet
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to be like, she's with me, you know.
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You don't have to be intimidated
or like you don't have
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to feel freaked out and
alone, I'm with you,
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and so they immediately have
this romantic connection.
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This is Reese, and so the
two of them are like--
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- More than that, though, Reese comes over
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to save her from an awkward conversation.
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- Right.
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- By kissing her right on the mouth.
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This woman he's never met.
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- Yeah.
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- And the description
of her turning around
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and seeing him, she like turns
around and sees his chest,
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and then like looks up and
sees his chin or something.
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It's like the longest scan up him,
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where she's just ready
to kiss him immediately.
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- Then she scans up and
is like, oh, there's a man
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attached to this chest,
okay, I'll have sex with him.
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- I think there's just
seven minutes of silence
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in that part that we don't read
about, you know what I mean?
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Her just scanning him, it's
just like a really long time.
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- So should I say something?
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- There were several moments in the book
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where it was clearly,
you get like two pages
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of someone's mental monologue
while they're in the middle
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of a conversation or something.
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Where it's like, are these people
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just total idiots, just staring?
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- But I love that the
monologue in the head
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of the guys is always like,
man, I really love Samantha.
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Not just in a sexual way, yeah, she's hot,
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but I like her brain, her personality,
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and it's like you have not talked at all.
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- Everybody falls in love in the course
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of, truly, 45 minutes.
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- Right?
- Yeah.
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- He finds out, Reese finds out
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that Ken was somewhat abusive,
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and he's like I'm gonna kill him.
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He immediately, it's just a very toxic
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masculinity situation all around.
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- I will say, just
dropped into this book is
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that Ken, her boyfriend--
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- Boy.
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- used to beat her up.
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I hate that writing so much,
that's the worst writing.
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Well, also, in the middle, skipping ahead,
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when they're all having a
three-way, her and these two guys,
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they drop that these two guys were
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in the foster care system together.
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There's so many hard details that are
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just thrown into the middle of it.
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- That's why they're so close.
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- Well, they do, they talk about that.
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We're basically brothers, but
more than that, best friends.
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And then they're like--
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- [Zac] And more than that.
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- Brothers.
- Brothers.
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- So, after this first meeting there's
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a whole thing where she's glad
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that this guy saved her and then they go,
252
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and they're gonna hook up,
and then she falls asleep.
253
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But then she goes in the hot tub--
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- She falls asleep for five hours.
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- For five hours.
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- They were, they go to the garage,
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Reese and Samantha, the first man
258
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that she meets with the chest,
259
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and make out hardcore on the hood,
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I think, of Shelly's Mercedes.
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- [Janie] Yeah.
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- (laughs) They get
interrupted, and Samantha does
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go upstairs to her
bedroom and falls asleep--
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- [Janie}for five Hours.
- For five Hours.
265
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- So in the timeline,
what are we thinking?
266
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Maybe this all happened from 11 to 4 a.m.?
267
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- I don't know, because
Reese and Gavin are still up.
268
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I think it's like four in the afternoon.
269
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In my head, it happened it was like 4:00.
270
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- Someone just looks outside
and is like, oh my God.
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- I've done that, once in a while,
272
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you know if it's Saturday,
it's like I could use a nap,
273
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I'm just gonna go to sleep for 30 minutes.
274
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Then I wake up and it's 9:30, no one?
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No one, all right.
276
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- I am not great at taking naps,
277
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so it feels like maybe there's
something wrong with her
278
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to wake up five hours later.
279
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- What an awful guest at
this party she's being.
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- [Janie] Yeah.
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- Awful guest, maybe, and then
also no one looked for her.
282
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She was gone for five hours.
283
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- I don't think anyone cares she's there.
284
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I mean it's really dark.
285
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- It does sound like a huge party.
286
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- If these two guys got
invitations, it had to be huge.
287
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- There were 200 people at this
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night before Thanksgiving party.
289
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- To see her mom's, her
stepmom's slideshow about Greece.
290
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- I guess my question, too,
is why are they staying over?
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- [Zac] Yeah.
- You know what I mean?
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I guess this is, where are we
thinking, upstate New York?
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- Probably like two bedrooms tops.
294
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Unless this is a huge mansion,
295
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she's given the only available real estate
296
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at a family gathering to these two guys.
297
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- To two guys who are trying
to sell her son an app.
298
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- Yeah.
299
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- And have no other real
relationship with him.
300
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They do over and over say
that Martin is a douche bag.
301
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- And he wants to have
sex with his stepsister.
302
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That is like, the guys have met him,
303
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and they were like yeah, in
the five minutes we talked
304
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with him, he's made it clear he wants
305
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to have sex with Samantha,
that's all he's gotten out
306
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while they're trying to
have an app transaction.
307
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(sighs)
(group laughs)
308
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I know, I know.
309
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So then the sex really kicks in.
310
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I mean this is when the
book really takes off.
311
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- [Grant] Yes.
312
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- She goes to the hot
tub, 'cause she says,
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what is the quote, it's like she wakes up
314
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from her nap and it's like,
"Fuck, yeah. Hot tub."
315
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Or something like that.
316
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- I mean you've been asleep
at a party for five hours--
317
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- She's zero to 60.
318
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- and you're just gonna go to the hot tub.
319
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- So then when she goes in she's like,
320
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I'm gonna have sex with this man I find
321
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in the hot tub, and assumes it's the guy
322
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who kissed her, but
then she realizes midway
323
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through a deep make out session.
324
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- [Grant] A little too late.
325
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- A little too late.
326
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- [Vic] Way too late.
327
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- I'm confused as to
what that interaction,
328
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like was he in the hot
tub faced away from her,
329
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and he just sort of looks like,
330
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I'm assuming these dudes are twins,
331
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but one has a beard and
different colored eyes.
332
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- That's pretty much how it
sounds, it's how it's explained.
333
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They have the same shoulders and chest,
334
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but one has a beard,
but Gavin has a beard.
335
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- And then it's this classic scenario
336
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where you're having sex with someone
337
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and you realize halfway through
338
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that it's not who you thought they were,
339
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so you don't get off.
340
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- Classic scenario.
341
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- Everyone here is just going for it,
342
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really not having any discretion.
343
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- I was a little creeped out by like,
344
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she surprises this guy with a kiss, right?
345
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And then he won't let go of
her when she realizes it's...
346
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- [Vic] Yes.
347
00:12:59,890 --> 00:13:03,377
- Yeah, she sits down in
his lap and is kissing him.
348
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She keeps trying to get up
349
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and he's like, where are you going?
350
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Fucking creep.
- It was weird.
351
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- Oh, and we also just
glossed over the fact
352
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that in the garage, as Reese
is making out with Samantha,
353
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his first thought is, oh
man, Gavin would love her.
354
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- Yes, yes.
- [Zac] God.
355
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- It's the first thing that he says.
356
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- [Janie] You're right.
357
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- If he's making out with
this woman he just met
358
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and keeps thinking about
how much his best friend,
359
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but more than that, brother,
would love this redhead
360
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that he met five minutes ago at a party.
361
00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:39,650
- That's right, and they make it clear,
362
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he's like we've never
shared a woman before,
363
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sure we've dated the same
woman at the same time,
364
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but we've never had a three way.
365
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That's already established,
this is not normal,
366
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and this woman is so
hot that all the rules
367
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are thrown out the window.
368
00:13:53,410 --> 00:13:54,480
- Yeah, they keep talking about
369
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how they've never been happy.
370
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They've never really been happy.
371
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And now, tonight, they're happy
372
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for the first time in their lives.
373
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- First time ever.
374
00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,170
- So, then like in this hot tub,
375
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so she's actually with Gavin
376
00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,140
and then there's this whole
sort of gray area situation,
377
00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:12,230
I would say, maybe not so gray.
378
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Then Reese comes in and the three of them,
379
00:14:15,180 --> 00:14:17,870
this is our first three
way of many in the book.
380
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So they have a three way in
the hot tub right off the bat.
381
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- And they get into it
with no awkwardness.
382
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- [Janie] No.
- [Zac] Not at all.
383
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- Gavin is making out with this girl,
384
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who has mistaken him for someone else,
385
00:14:33,610 --> 00:14:35,060
and he won't let her go away.
386
00:14:35,910 --> 00:14:38,928
Then Reese, his best friend,
comes up to the hot tub
387
00:14:38,928 --> 00:14:43,463
and says, oh, I see you like my friend.
388
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Then right away everyone's down.
389
00:14:49,610 --> 00:14:51,230
- And they all know
where to put their bodies
390
00:14:51,230 --> 00:14:53,310
and all have fun, and there's no question
391
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of how we're sharing Samantha.
392
00:14:56,728 --> 00:14:57,610
- There's not even a conversation of it.
393
00:14:57,610 --> 00:15:01,530
Reese and Gavin, who
are basically brothers,
394
00:15:01,530 --> 00:15:04,130
nod at each other, like make eye contact
395
00:15:04,130 --> 00:15:06,640
and nod at each other, and then it's like,
396
00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,060
oh, in that nod we've
communicated our relationship
397
00:15:10,060 --> 00:15:12,689
will now include having sex
with people at the same time.
398
00:15:12,689 --> 00:15:13,522
- Well--
399
00:15:13,522 --> 00:15:14,355
- I also, oh, sorry,
what were you gonna say?
400
00:15:14,355 --> 00:15:15,188
- Oh, no, no, no I was
just gonna say they also,
401
00:15:15,188 --> 00:15:18,290
very clearly, state several
times throughout the book
402
00:15:18,290 --> 00:15:20,870
that Samantha's like, I've
never done this before.
403
00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:23,150
They're both like we've gotten close once,
404
00:15:23,150 --> 00:15:24,520
but we've never done this before.
405
00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,380
And they just jump--
406
00:15:25,380 --> 00:15:27,098
- [Janie] They just jump right in.
407
00:15:27,098 --> 00:15:28,277
- Straight into it.
408
00:15:28,277 --> 00:15:30,100
- And does he, okay, I'm
confused about the mechanics
409
00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:34,346
of where he is in the hot
tub, is he under water?
410
00:15:34,346 --> 00:15:35,370
- Oh, man.
411
00:15:35,370 --> 00:15:36,760
- I was wondering about that, too.
412
00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,760
- They don't specify, but
then later on they're like,
413
00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,440
oh, it's getting cold and we
popped back in the hot tub.
414
00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,577
So my thought is do they--
415
00:15:42,577 --> 00:15:43,994
- On the edge of the hot tub.
416
00:15:43,994 --> 00:15:45,430
- get onto the lip of
the hot tub right there,
417
00:15:45,430 --> 00:15:47,460
and she's like sitting here.
418
00:15:47,460 --> 00:15:49,097
- But if it's an above
ground pool situation
419
00:15:49,097 --> 00:15:52,700
and that's a very narrow
rim, like where are we here?
420
00:15:52,700 --> 00:15:54,320
I needed the visuals.
421
00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,150
- And I hope it's an above
ground pool situation
422
00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:57,460
'cause if it's a raised hot tub,
423
00:15:57,460 --> 00:15:58,370
then, yeah, then you're sitting
424
00:15:58,370 --> 00:16:01,300
on this rounded, wet, molded plastic.
425
00:16:01,300 --> 00:16:02,191
- [Janie] I know.
426
00:16:02,191 --> 00:16:03,942
- But maybe that makes it easier
427
00:16:03,942 --> 00:16:05,170
because there's the little
steps to get up to the hot tub,
428
00:16:05,170 --> 00:16:07,330
so somebody can be kneeling on the steps.
429
00:16:07,330 --> 00:16:09,310
- That actually I like,
that does make it easier.
430
00:16:09,310 --> 00:16:11,660
- Now I may have to tell you,
from personal experience,
431
00:16:11,660 --> 00:16:15,170
or not, you can get a UTI
from having sex in a hot tub.
432
00:16:15,170 --> 00:16:16,730
It's a very dangerous scenario.
433
00:16:16,730 --> 00:16:19,210
I also got cellulitis,
a bacterial infection,
434
00:16:19,210 --> 00:16:20,360
three weeks ago from a spa,
435
00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,450
potentially the massage or the hot tub.
436
00:16:22,450 --> 00:16:24,205
I just want to put it
out there to the viewers,
437
00:16:24,205 --> 00:16:25,950
don't have sex in a hot tub.
438
00:16:25,950 --> 00:16:30,340
I think especially if you have stuff
439
00:16:30,340 --> 00:16:33,077
that goes in in your
anatomy, you're gonna get
440
00:16:33,077 --> 00:16:36,890
a lot of bacteria in there,
so I just, that's a PSA.
441
00:16:36,890 --> 00:16:38,320
- Are we sharing personal stories now?
442
00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,150
- Please, I just, I was
so bummed about that.
443
00:16:41,150 --> 00:16:44,885
- Sure, sure, yeah,
there's the first time,
444
00:16:44,885 --> 00:16:48,380
no, not the first time,
the first time I jacked off
445
00:16:48,380 --> 00:16:52,633
with this one particular
guy. (group laughs)
446
00:16:52,633 --> 00:16:54,252
in freshman year of high school,
447
00:16:54,252 --> 00:16:58,500
it was at a hot tub, so
if you're a teen looking
448
00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:01,160
to have a first gay experience,
449
00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,700
I actually recommend hot
tubs very, very highly.
450
00:17:04,700 --> 00:17:08,730
Because you're wearing basically nothing.
451
00:17:08,730 --> 00:17:13,730
You're so close together,
it's usually dark outside,
452
00:17:14,212 --> 00:17:18,873
it's usually late at
night, you're both 14.
453
00:17:18,873 --> 00:17:21,600
I realized I was setting
up a scenario when I have
454
00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,041
to remind myself, you know, children.
455
00:17:24,041 --> 00:17:25,423
- Yikes.
456
00:17:25,423 --> 00:17:29,930
- So I remember I was at a person's house,
457
00:17:29,930 --> 00:17:31,010
won't say their name, Marie.
458
00:17:31,010 --> 00:17:34,050
- [Zac] It sounds like
you're saying Marie's house.
459
00:17:34,050 --> 00:17:35,221
- No, no.
460
00:17:35,221 --> 00:17:36,343
- Were you at Marie's house?
461
00:17:36,343 --> 00:17:39,260
- No, no Marie and I only met
each other a couple years ago,
462
00:17:39,260 --> 00:17:41,270
and Marie reminds us
before we get started not
463
00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:42,783
to say first and last names.
464
00:17:42,783 --> 00:17:43,633
- Gotcha.
465
00:17:43,633 --> 00:17:46,500
- So I won't say this
person's first and last name,
466
00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:48,401
although I literally
almost did to be funny.
467
00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:50,650
I almost said it just now to be funny,
468
00:17:50,650 --> 00:17:53,550
and I realized that would just
make everyone's life hard.
469
00:17:53,550 --> 00:17:55,610
But, I was at this person's house,
470
00:17:55,610 --> 00:17:58,410
and their parents, you
know, went up to bed,
471
00:17:58,410 --> 00:18:00,303
and we were out in the hot tub.
472
00:18:02,343 --> 00:18:06,860
It was very much a situation
of me sort of manipulating
473
00:18:06,860 --> 00:18:08,420
because I was like I
don't have a bathing suit.
474
00:18:08,420 --> 00:18:10,670
Should we just get in naked?
475
00:18:10,670 --> 00:18:13,000
What a little fucking
creep I was, god damn it.
476
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,692
Anyway.
- God, you were such a Reese.
477
00:18:15,692 --> 00:18:16,793
- Such a Reese.
478
00:18:16,793 --> 00:18:18,560
- I was a real Reese in this situation.
479
00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,942
- Was it at Gavin's house?
480
00:18:19,942 --> 00:18:22,550
- Yeah, it was at Lynn's Thanksgiving.
481
00:18:22,550 --> 00:18:26,680
- No, no, but I'm gonna tell
you off-air why that's funny.
482
00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,210
- [Zac] Oh, okay.
- Oh, okay.
483
00:18:29,210 --> 00:18:30,160
- Sure.
484
00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,874
- Anyone else have
really personal effed up
485
00:18:31,874 --> 00:18:33,092
sexual experiences they want to...
486
00:18:33,092 --> 00:18:34,347
- I mean--
487
00:18:34,347 --> 00:18:35,955
- You don't have to.
488
00:18:35,955 --> 00:18:36,976
- I think I'm okay.
489
00:18:36,976 --> 00:18:39,755
- Okay, just checking,
anytime you want to...
490
00:18:39,755 --> 00:18:41,700
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll marinate on it.
491
00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:42,868
- Yeah, marinate on it.
492
00:18:42,868 --> 00:18:43,874
- Yeah, whenever you want to regret
493
00:18:43,874 --> 00:18:45,075
saying something this is...
494
00:18:45,075 --> 00:18:46,290
- Marinate, like the
bacteria in your flesh
495
00:18:46,290 --> 00:18:47,430
after you've been in a hot tub,
496
00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:51,080
which is really like a
below boiling bacteria pool.
497
00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,030
- Yeah, it's the perfect
temperature for bacteria to grow.
498
00:18:54,030 --> 00:18:55,640
- Oh, 100%, and that
thing is never cleaned
499
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,130
and then people are having sex in it.
500
00:18:57,130 --> 00:18:59,500
So there you go, as we've seen here.
501
00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:01,570
So then there this like
whole, we have like a very,
502
00:19:01,570 --> 00:19:04,627
did you guys find this
scene steamy and exciting?
503
00:19:04,627 --> 00:19:08,096
- There was one part that I
liked, that I thought was hot.
504
00:19:08,096 --> 00:19:11,990
It's when she talks about when she's naked
505
00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:13,690
in front of them for the first time.
506
00:19:13,690 --> 00:19:16,280
There is something very
hot about being seen naked
507
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,507
by a group of people for the first time.
508
00:19:18,507 --> 00:19:19,896
(group hums)
509
00:19:19,896 --> 00:19:21,970
- And they can't deal
with how hot you are.
510
00:19:21,970 --> 00:19:24,530
They're exploding at her sight.
511
00:19:24,530 --> 00:19:26,210
- Yes, that is hot.
512
00:19:26,210 --> 00:19:28,395
- But you don't need it.
513
00:19:28,395 --> 00:19:33,395
- Oh, god, I'm really just
getting to the personal stuff.
514
00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:36,863
What's hot to me is having
everyone looking at me.
515
00:19:38,194 --> 00:19:39,027
- Oh, interesting.
516
00:19:39,027 --> 00:19:40,500
- I'm less concerned
about what they're feeling
517
00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:42,470
and more about getting their attention.
518
00:19:42,470 --> 00:19:43,695
- Everybody look at me.
519
00:19:43,695 --> 00:19:45,250
- (laughs) That's basically it.
520
00:19:45,250 --> 00:19:47,230
- In sexual functionality, there's people
521
00:19:47,230 --> 00:19:49,840
that are more responsive, so that is an
522
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,970
actual biological wiring some people have.
523
00:19:52,970 --> 00:19:54,300
Where it's like being looked at
524
00:19:54,300 --> 00:19:59,300
or being acted upon is more
sexually arousing than looking.
525
00:20:01,356 --> 00:20:03,520
- I'm one of them, and I think I've based
526
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,260
my whole career on that fact.
527
00:20:07,260 --> 00:20:09,870
Not only just in terms
of sex, just in life.
528
00:20:09,870 --> 00:20:10,703
- Everything.
529
00:20:10,703 --> 00:20:12,590
- I really oughta be the focus of things.
530
00:20:12,590 --> 00:20:13,423
- I love that.
531
00:20:13,423 --> 00:20:14,660
- I think there's
something to be said, too,
532
00:20:14,660 --> 00:20:18,160
for you're naked in front of me
533
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,140
and this is exactly what I pictured
534
00:20:21,140 --> 00:20:24,014
and imagined and I wanted,
you know what I mean?
535
00:20:24,014 --> 00:20:24,953
- [Janie] Yeah.
536
00:20:24,953 --> 00:20:27,540
- You are exactly what I'm attracted to.
537
00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:29,300
Because they keep saying
that over and over again.
538
00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:31,140
Like your body is perfect.
539
00:20:31,140 --> 00:20:33,960
- Yeah, they love her red
hair, her emerald eyes,
540
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,940
her tiny shoulders, they can't get enough.
541
00:20:35,940 --> 00:20:38,680
- Her tiny shoulders.
- [Vic] Her tiny shoulders.
542
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,850
- They love it, and
her pinstripe suit sort
543
00:20:40,850 --> 00:20:43,659
of like hitting the back of
her thigh at the right place.
544
00:20:43,659 --> 00:20:45,360
- Her pinstripe suit?
545
00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:49,094
- I mean her skirt, sorry. (group laughs)
546
00:20:49,094 --> 00:20:50,490
She's wearing a suit set the entire time.
547
00:20:50,490 --> 00:20:53,410
- I think that would
actually be super cool
548
00:20:53,410 --> 00:20:55,140
because one of the things
that bums me out is
549
00:20:55,140 --> 00:20:57,363
that these people are all so vanilla.
550
00:20:57,363 --> 00:20:58,382
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
551
00:20:58,382 --> 00:20:59,854
- They're all so regular, it's like,
552
00:20:59,854 --> 00:21:03,840
oh, these three beautiful
people were attracted
553
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,393
to each other, of course.
554
00:21:05,393 --> 00:21:06,400
- But they have so much backstory.
555
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,020
The foster care system, you guys.
556
00:21:08,020 --> 00:21:10,080
- Grant, she has red hair.
557
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:10,913
- That's true.
558
00:21:10,913 --> 00:21:13,094
- There is a line I want to point out.
559
00:21:13,094 --> 00:21:15,620
I just don't want to forget about it,
560
00:21:15,620 --> 00:21:17,700
is when they're about
to have the threesome
561
00:21:17,700 --> 00:21:19,702
in the hot tub, and they're like,
562
00:21:19,702 --> 00:21:21,580
she's like what are we doing,
563
00:21:21,580 --> 00:21:26,580
and someone says something
like whatever you want.
564
00:21:26,690 --> 00:21:28,150
I forget what the first
part of the line is,
565
00:21:28,150 --> 00:21:31,313
but the second part of the line
is, "and nothing you don't."
566
00:21:31,313 --> 00:21:33,843
- Oh, my god, perfect.
567
00:21:33,843 --> 00:21:34,676
- Kind of like checking in a way,
568
00:21:34,676 --> 00:21:37,642
but also one of them maybe
just held her against,
569
00:21:37,642 --> 00:21:39,809
on his lap in the hot tub.
570
00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:43,040
- That's very true, I
think that line's sort
571
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,820
of the writer saying okay,
well now I have carte blanche.
572
00:21:45,820 --> 00:21:47,290
We've like established the rules,
573
00:21:47,290 --> 00:21:49,440
and also, it's really
immediately established
574
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,963
these guys are like I
want this to be forever.
575
00:21:50,963 --> 00:21:53,400
They're so into it the second it starts.
576
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,130
They're just like this is my family.
577
00:21:55,130 --> 00:21:58,330
Thanksgiving alone, never
again, I have Samantha.
578
00:21:58,330 --> 00:22:01,030
- And that, to me, feels
a little bit sex negative
579
00:22:01,030 --> 00:22:02,130
of like, hey, you're allowed to
580
00:22:02,130 --> 00:22:03,094
just have a three way with these people--
581
00:22:03,094 --> 00:22:03,927
- [Janie] Right.
582
00:22:03,927 --> 00:22:04,840
- and not have it be because you're
583
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,040
in love with them forever.
584
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,810
It can also just be a fun
thing you did one night.
585
00:22:07,810 --> 00:22:08,643
That's okay.
- Yeah.
586
00:22:08,643 --> 00:22:09,476
- I did find that strange.
587
00:22:09,476 --> 00:22:10,880
I would actually prefer
it just be like whoa,
588
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,410
this is wild, I'll never see them again.
589
00:22:12,410 --> 00:22:13,999
But they like immediately form a family.
590
00:22:13,999 --> 00:22:16,670
- They do, they do, like skipping ahead
591
00:22:16,670 --> 00:22:19,061
to the end they all move in together.
592
00:22:19,061 --> 00:22:20,770
- And share a workspace in SoHo.
593
00:22:20,770 --> 00:22:21,930
- And start a business.
594
00:22:21,930 --> 00:22:22,763
- They immediately do that.
595
00:22:22,763 --> 00:22:23,770
- They do that night.
- They do that.
596
00:22:23,770 --> 00:22:25,461
- And I like as it turns out,
not only is she a good fuck,
597
00:22:25,461 --> 00:22:27,610
she's a good hacker, too.
598
00:22:27,610 --> 00:22:29,221
- She can really program.
599
00:22:29,221 --> 00:22:30,054
- She can code.
600
00:22:30,054 --> 00:22:30,887
- I love a developer.
601
00:22:30,887 --> 00:22:34,610
- She's great at developing,
so then what's funny here is
602
00:22:34,610 --> 00:22:37,960
that the stakes, there's no
tension really in the story,
603
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,608
I feel, but the stakes
are still about the app.
604
00:22:40,608 --> 00:22:44,140
So her ex, Ken, he comes
up and plants the seed.
605
00:22:44,140 --> 00:22:46,010
He's like they're just
here to sell an app.
606
00:22:46,010 --> 00:22:47,510
They don't care about you.
607
00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:50,903
- And this guy is there at,
maybe, two in the morning drunk.
608
00:22:50,903 --> 00:22:52,930
- Or 4:00 p.m., we don't really know.
609
00:22:52,930 --> 00:22:53,850
- Yeah, no idea what time it is,
610
00:22:53,850 --> 00:22:57,190
but he's come back drunk
because he's presumably
611
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:59,261
so jealous that she was kissing a guy
612
00:22:59,261 --> 00:23:01,780
when she met him and his fiancee?
613
00:23:01,780 --> 00:23:02,613
- [Grant] Yeah.
- [Vic] Yeah.
614
00:23:02,613 --> 00:23:04,400
- There's a lot, yeah, Ken's drunk.
615
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,520
Then he plants a seed and
then he drives drunk away.
616
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,551
Which is like, okay, no
one's gonna address that.
617
00:23:08,551 --> 00:23:13,090
- But in between, Gavin and
Reese beat the shit out him.
618
00:23:13,090 --> 00:23:14,599
- Oh, yeah.
619
00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:15,590
- They beat the shit out of him.
620
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:18,010
- The amount of times these dudes see
621
00:23:18,010 --> 00:23:19,720
a red mist in this book.
622
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,430
- But from one of their points of view,
623
00:23:22,430 --> 00:23:25,880
when Ken comes up immediately
I started seeing red.
624
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,670
- To be fair, I did warn him,
625
00:23:27,670 --> 00:23:30,089
and then hits him right in the mouth.
626
00:23:30,089 --> 00:23:34,370
- The description of the
beating is very similar
627
00:23:34,370 --> 00:23:35,940
to the description of the sex.
628
00:23:35,940 --> 00:23:36,773
- Oh, my god.
- Yes.
629
00:23:36,773 --> 00:23:38,350
- Which is really a wreck, guys.
630
00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:41,040
- Well I think maybe they're
just trying to cover all bases.
631
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,210
They're like well, maybe
someone's gonna be into this part
632
00:23:43,210 --> 00:23:46,957
of it, and so they're very
descriptive with that.
633
00:23:46,957 --> 00:23:48,660
- Yeah, maybe this is what we're about.
634
00:23:48,660 --> 00:23:52,270
This is an overview of human sexuality.
635
00:23:52,270 --> 00:23:53,290
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
636
00:23:53,290 --> 00:23:55,070
- What's weird, too, is so then,
637
00:23:55,070 --> 00:23:56,400
obviously we're skipping right ahead
638
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,030
to the next sexual experience,
639
00:23:58,030 --> 00:24:02,320
and there's a tonguing of her butthole,
640
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,510
which they call a ring, is this a term?
641
00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:07,310
- Yeah, they didn't, they sort of talked
642
00:24:07,310 --> 00:24:09,791
around the fact that he was
eating her ass for a while.
643
00:24:09,791 --> 00:24:10,739
- [Janie] Yeah, he was.
644
00:24:10,739 --> 00:24:13,111
- It was like then he touched that spot,
645
00:24:13,111 --> 00:24:17,169
and I lit up like a--
646
00:24:17,169 --> 00:24:18,711
- Christmas tree.
647
00:24:18,711 --> 00:24:19,581
- I can't remember exactly.
648
00:24:19,581 --> 00:24:21,710
- I remember reading this part
649
00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:23,890
and then being confused for a second
650
00:24:23,890 --> 00:24:26,040
because someone called Martin an asshole.
651
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,410
- I wrote that in my notes.
652
00:24:27,410 --> 00:24:29,470
They go on and on about her
butthole and all this stuff,
653
00:24:29,470 --> 00:24:32,650
and the next sentence is
asshole about a mean person.
654
00:24:32,650 --> 00:24:34,080
I was like wait, I thought
we were enjoying assholes.
655
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,930
- Martin's asshole is there suddenly?
656
00:24:38,621 --> 00:24:40,610
- (laughs) That really upset me.
657
00:24:40,610 --> 00:24:42,500
- And it was so, like, they're staying
658
00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:47,490
in the basement guest room,
these two brother twins
659
00:24:47,490 --> 00:24:50,400
or whatever, and there's this tension
660
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,141
of like she just found out
about the app from her drunk ex,
661
00:24:55,141 --> 00:24:57,530
who should have no reason to know
662
00:24:57,530 --> 00:24:59,820
that that would be an issue
after he got the shit beaten out
663
00:24:59,820 --> 00:25:02,473
of him and his car destroyed
by these two monsters.
664
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:04,933
- These hulking beasts.
665
00:25:04,933 --> 00:25:06,360
- To yell back that they're
only here for the app.
666
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:10,461
And she has immediately forgiven them.
667
00:25:10,461 --> 00:25:13,940
You think that there would be
a certain amount of tension
668
00:25:13,940 --> 00:25:16,598
and trying to win each
other back, you know?
669
00:25:16,598 --> 00:25:19,210
- I didn't understand why that
would be a problem for her.
670
00:25:19,210 --> 00:25:21,310
Because, of course, there's
some reason they're here.
671
00:25:21,310 --> 00:25:23,390
They're not here to meet you.
672
00:25:23,390 --> 00:25:26,530
They had no idea who you
were when the night started.
673
00:25:26,530 --> 00:25:28,630
- But, also, the relationship with Lynn.
674
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:30,730
I want to know Lynn's sort
of telling of the story.
675
00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:32,250
We never got the Lynn perspective.
676
00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:33,920
- Oh, I'd love a chapter, if while they're
677
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,490
out fucking in her hot tub--
678
00:25:35,490 --> 00:25:38,111
- She looks out the window. (screams)
679
00:25:38,111 --> 00:25:40,770
- What are those strangers doing?
680
00:25:40,770 --> 00:25:43,959
I invited those three people
specifically to be nice,
681
00:25:43,959 --> 00:25:46,701
and now they're fucking all together.
682
00:25:46,701 --> 00:25:47,821
- They're ruining my hot tub.
683
00:25:47,821 --> 00:25:48,880
- Well, my question is I really need
684
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,040
to know the housing layout here,
685
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,210
because they spend a lot of time,
686
00:25:52,210 --> 00:25:54,730
like these are not quiet people.
687
00:25:54,730 --> 00:25:55,620
- What do you think it was?
688
00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:59,920
If you had to design this
house, walk me through it.
689
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:03,318
- Yeah, okay, so I am
picturing a split level.
690
00:26:03,318 --> 00:26:04,151
- Sure.
691
00:26:04,151 --> 00:26:06,810
- So it's not a huge
house, but also not tiny.
692
00:26:06,810 --> 00:26:09,450
Maybe like four bedrooms,
there was at one point
693
00:26:09,450 --> 00:26:11,710
I guess four people who lived here?
694
00:26:11,710 --> 00:26:14,060
- There'd have to be, yeah,
we've met three of them.
695
00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:15,980
- Yeah, and there's a hot
tub around the corner.
696
00:26:15,980 --> 00:26:18,710
We're somewhere like upstate New York.
697
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:21,270
So I'm guessing it's like the stairs
698
00:26:21,270 --> 00:26:22,740
that kind of go into a basement,
699
00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:25,060
but you can still see the
backyard through the basement.
700
00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:26,900
Like you can walk into the backyard.
701
00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:28,277
- I'm completely with you.
- Yeah.
702
00:26:28,277 --> 00:26:31,770
- And I'm picturing the hot tub
703
00:26:31,770 --> 00:26:33,760
just behind a tool shed
because I don't know
704
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,640
how else it wouldn't
be seen from the house.
705
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,911
- Yeah, must be.
706
00:26:36,911 --> 00:26:37,940
- Like there has to be
something that it's hidden from,
707
00:26:37,940 --> 00:26:40,150
unless it's way the hell far out.
708
00:26:40,150 --> 00:26:42,700
- I'm imagining it sprawling mansion.
709
00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:45,000
- That's the only way
really it makes sense,
710
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,450
to have so many strangers in your home.
711
00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:49,960
- Also, where's her dad, right?
712
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,793
- Good question.
713
00:26:50,793 --> 00:26:51,671
- Yeah, they don't bring him up.
714
00:26:51,671 --> 00:26:52,879
- Did he die or something?
715
00:26:52,879 --> 00:26:54,250
- Oh, he did die, they bring
that up really quickly.
716
00:26:54,250 --> 00:26:56,120
I had to go back, yeah, he died.
717
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:57,830
- In the list of her tragedies.
718
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:59,860
- Yes, it was beneath all the other ones.
719
00:26:59,860 --> 00:27:01,760
- Oh, that was the other thing,
720
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,500
as they were kind of like
setting up these characters
721
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:06,820
when Reese first meets Samantha,
722
00:27:06,820 --> 00:27:08,590
and he's like I should have known
723
00:27:08,590 --> 00:27:13,400
that this was Martin's stepsister
because of her red hair
724
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,530
and how easily that she
knew the way to the garage.
725
00:27:15,530 --> 00:27:17,380
Why would her having
red hair having anything
726
00:27:17,380 --> 00:27:20,290
to do with knowing that that
was Martin's stepsister?
727
00:27:20,290 --> 00:27:22,450
- Yeah, these two people
that aren't related.
728
00:27:22,450 --> 00:27:24,503
- Exactly, and why would
they have the same last name?
729
00:27:24,503 --> 00:27:27,770
- Oh, yeah.
- [Janie] Oh, interesting.
730
00:27:27,770 --> 00:27:29,840
- Just bringing it up, I want answers.
731
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,410
- Wow, I hate that we have to poke holes
732
00:27:31,410 --> 00:27:33,120
in this beautiful book.
733
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:34,114
- That's a shame.
734
00:27:34,114 --> 00:27:35,107
- That's really a shame.
735
00:27:35,107 --> 00:27:37,550
- I don't have the quote in front of me,
736
00:27:37,550 --> 00:27:39,940
but I would be remiss if I didn't bring
737
00:27:39,940 --> 00:27:44,090
up my favorite quote between the hot tub
738
00:27:44,090 --> 00:27:49,090
and her showing up at
the basement guest room.
739
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,423
There's kind of, you
get Gavin's perspective
740
00:27:54,423 --> 00:27:58,520
for the first time post hot tub fucking,
741
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,005
and he's talking about
how it just felt right
742
00:28:03,005 --> 00:28:05,542
to have his best friend there.
743
00:28:05,542 --> 00:28:07,810
And he's talking about like, you know,
744
00:28:07,810 --> 00:28:11,994
any other guy, if I saw
any other guy kissing
745
00:28:11,994 --> 00:28:16,994
this sweet angel or whatever
I'd be mad, but I mean,
746
00:28:17,473 --> 00:28:22,473
it's Reese, and the ellipses,
it's Reese, really got me.
747
00:28:25,134 --> 00:28:29,250
- It's so good, yeah the
relationship is so fascinating.
748
00:28:29,250 --> 00:28:32,260
Like you said, how
seamlessly and unawkwardly
749
00:28:32,260 --> 00:28:33,970
and in love they all are in this moment.
750
00:28:33,970 --> 00:28:36,150
They just entered this,
no questions asked.
751
00:28:36,150 --> 00:28:38,460
Logistics would be so hard to manage.
752
00:28:38,460 --> 00:28:40,460
- Three ways, in general, you spend most
753
00:28:40,460 --> 00:28:41,680
of the time trying to figure out,
754
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,850
how do I get to the
other side of this person
755
00:28:44,850 --> 00:28:46,330
without it being a whole thing?
756
00:28:46,330 --> 00:28:49,290
Without having to fully get up out of bed
757
00:28:49,290 --> 00:28:50,870
and walk around to the other side
758
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:54,020
of the bed, and never any of that.
759
00:28:54,020 --> 00:28:56,730
If this was a realistic
depiction of a three way,
760
00:28:56,730 --> 00:28:58,530
at one point one of them would talk
761
00:28:58,530 --> 00:29:00,590
about how tired their elbow is getting
762
00:29:00,590 --> 00:29:03,370
of being propped up on
it trying to get involved
763
00:29:03,370 --> 00:29:06,510
for 20 minutes and just
not having it not happen.
764
00:29:06,510 --> 00:29:09,740
- Also, I think with a three
way with a woman involved,
765
00:29:09,740 --> 00:29:12,560
there's a lot of pounding of her privates
766
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,570
that I don't think is,
at some points I was like
767
00:29:15,570 --> 00:29:18,690
this seems really painful,
there's a lot going on in there.
768
00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:19,880
- They fuck her in the ass
769
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,387
and she's never been fucked in the ass.
770
00:29:21,387 --> 00:29:22,220
- For the first time, yes.
771
00:29:22,220 --> 00:29:25,514
- For the first time with
no mention of lube at all.
772
00:29:25,514 --> 00:29:28,622
- And she's like this
is great, and that's it.
773
00:29:28,622 --> 00:29:30,742
- And she's just like yeah, great.
774
00:29:30,742 --> 00:29:35,150
There's a half a page of set up and then--
775
00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:37,030
- It's just like a little bit of play
776
00:29:37,030 --> 00:29:38,650
and then it's in
immediately, and it's fine.
777
00:29:38,650 --> 00:29:39,802
There's no way.
778
00:29:39,802 --> 00:29:41,103
- She's getting fucked
from both ends all at once.
779
00:29:41,103 --> 00:29:41,994
- No fucking way.
- No.
780
00:29:41,994 --> 00:29:43,194
- Her ring is loving it.
781
00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:50,310
- So they're down in
that second sex scene.
782
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:53,310
- Yeah, she goes into
their room into this,
783
00:29:53,310 --> 00:29:55,370
one of the million guest
rooms in the house,
784
00:29:55,370 --> 00:29:58,510
and there's another sex
scene with the butt stuff,
785
00:29:58,510 --> 00:30:02,870
so that one, again, like
just jumping right into it.
786
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:04,230
I feel like here they're really starting
787
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:05,063
to feel like a family.
788
00:30:05,063 --> 00:30:06,553
They're really starting to gel.
789
00:30:06,553 --> 00:30:09,193
He's just like this is forever.
790
00:30:10,450 --> 00:30:11,670
- They keep saying that.
791
00:30:12,623 --> 00:30:13,591
- [Janie] I know.
792
00:30:13,591 --> 00:30:15,001
- They keep saying that as they're saying,
793
00:30:15,001 --> 00:30:16,223
as she screams into my mouth.
794
00:30:16,223 --> 00:30:18,590
- That made me laugh so much.
795
00:30:18,590 --> 00:30:21,020
- But every character has
that perspective on it.
796
00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:22,503
It's like one of those buzzwords,
797
00:30:22,503 --> 00:30:24,890
I think that maybe it's a writing issue,
798
00:30:24,890 --> 00:30:26,870
but it is one of those
things where every character
799
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:29,812
has the same euphemisms
that they use for things.
800
00:30:29,812 --> 00:30:30,783
- Yeah.
- Right.
801
00:30:30,783 --> 00:30:32,960
- Everyone talks like the same,
802
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,633
yeah it's kind of like one character.
803
00:30:35,633 --> 00:30:36,841
- Oh, they all have the same exact voice.
804
00:30:36,841 --> 00:30:38,252
- It's the author.
- Yeah.
805
00:30:38,252 --> 00:30:40,010
- I was a little stumped
when I was reading this book,
806
00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:42,530
and I truly laughed out
loud when they talked
807
00:30:42,530 --> 00:30:46,073
about her screaming into
Reese's mouth, that's so funny.
808
00:30:46,073 --> 00:30:50,390
- And then also what was
crazy here-- (group laughs)
809
00:30:50,390 --> 00:30:52,400
- Well that's why Lynn never heard them.
810
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,753
That's how we got around the noise issue.
811
00:30:53,753 --> 00:30:54,586
(Janie whoots)
812
00:30:54,586 --> 00:30:56,641
- I feel like that would hurt my brain.
813
00:30:56,641 --> 00:30:57,673
- Oh, yeah.
814
00:30:57,673 --> 00:30:59,161
- Your brain would hurt.
815
00:30:59,161 --> 00:31:00,303
- Your brain would hurt.
816
00:31:00,303 --> 00:31:01,910
- Start screaming into your head.
817
00:31:01,910 --> 00:31:06,241
- As you're vibrating my
crowns. (group laughs)
818
00:31:06,241 --> 00:31:08,360
- So then it's crazy,
because after this sex scene
819
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,430
a very similar situation happens.
820
00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:12,130
What we had with Ken and that altercation
821
00:31:12,130 --> 00:31:13,960
we now have with Martin's stepbrother.
822
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,620
There's another drunken fight.
823
00:31:15,620 --> 00:31:18,150
A guy comes in drunk,
it's the same thing again,
824
00:31:18,150 --> 00:31:20,231
and I really thought we
were reading the same scene.
825
00:31:20,231 --> 00:31:21,170
- What you get at this dry party.
826
00:31:21,170 --> 00:31:25,987
All these people are so
fucked up, they're so drunk.
827
00:31:25,987 --> 00:31:28,140
- And then they like punch him.
828
00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:29,260
They punch Martin and are like,
829
00:31:29,260 --> 00:31:31,092
we never want to work with you,
830
00:31:31,092 --> 00:31:32,450
like there's a fight and that ends.
831
00:31:32,450 --> 00:31:34,930
Oh my god, it's like the stakes are so low
832
00:31:34,930 --> 00:31:37,001
because who cares?
833
00:31:37,001 --> 00:31:39,930
Selling this algorithm
to this specific person
834
00:31:39,930 --> 00:31:42,310
was never established as a necessary move.
835
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:43,590
There's other options out there.
836
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:46,900
- Not only that, I think
to make them more desirable
837
00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:49,720
it keeps coming up that Gavin
and Reese are already wealthy.
838
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,210
They don't have to worry
about money anymore.
839
00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:52,842
- So there's no stakes.
840
00:31:52,842 --> 00:31:53,675
- Are they?
841
00:31:53,675 --> 00:31:56,900
- I didn't really remember
how wealthy they were,
842
00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:00,140
but I just remember like
after they, you know,
843
00:32:00,140 --> 00:32:02,330
fuck the algorithm and the pitch
844
00:32:02,330 --> 00:32:05,723
and they beat the shit out of
this guy in his mom's kitchen.
845
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,670
You know he deserves it,
and he's being a creep,
846
00:32:09,670 --> 00:32:13,210
and he's saying things
like step isn't blood
847
00:32:13,210 --> 00:32:16,610
when he's trying to say she's
mine about his stepsister.
848
00:32:16,610 --> 00:32:17,480
- Oh yeah, oh yeah.
849
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,690
- So he deserves to get beat up.
850
00:32:19,690 --> 00:32:24,030
But maybe a paragraph later they're like
851
00:32:24,030 --> 00:32:26,660
and it also turns out
everyone wanted our algorithm.
852
00:32:26,660 --> 00:32:28,919
We ended up selling it to someone else
853
00:32:28,919 --> 00:32:30,359
for three times this much.
854
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:33,064
- Oh, my god, I know,
this epilogue is wild.
855
00:32:33,064 --> 00:32:34,570
- [Vic] It's so wild.
856
00:32:34,570 --> 00:32:36,665
- The epilogue got me
laughing real hard on that.
857
00:32:36,665 --> 00:32:40,300
- What happens in the epilogue is...
858
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:41,410
- Because they drive away together.
859
00:32:41,410 --> 00:32:43,760
This is sort of where
the story, we leave off.
860
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,750
The epilogue includes, I don't want
861
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:46,770
to give away too much
because I really want
862
00:32:46,770 --> 00:32:48,420
to encourage everyone to read this book,
863
00:32:48,420 --> 00:32:50,760
but not only do they all move into
864
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,187
a shared working and living space in SoHo,
865
00:32:53,187 --> 00:32:55,887
that's just where they have
sex and work all the time,
866
00:32:56,898 --> 00:32:59,580
but they sell the app,
they make a bunch of money,
867
00:32:59,580 --> 00:33:01,900
and they all finally feel
like they have a family.
868
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:05,000
This is sort of, it's
the happiest conclusion
869
00:33:05,852 --> 00:33:07,990
of any sort of erotica I
think you could ever find.
870
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:10,110
- Of any book that's ever been written.
871
00:33:10,110 --> 00:33:12,070
- You know what, I forgot,
I don't know if we've
872
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:14,500
really talked about how much
they hated Thanksgiving.
873
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:15,890
- Oh, yeah.
- Oh, you're right.
874
00:33:15,890 --> 00:33:20,220
- Everyone in this book is
like fucking Thanksgiving,
875
00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:23,386
the worst holiday, and
has like really weird--
876
00:33:23,386 --> 00:33:25,122
- My favorite holiday.
- Yeah, mine too.
877
00:33:25,122 --> 00:33:26,096
- [Janie] I agree.
878
00:33:26,096 --> 00:33:27,850
- How does everybody
feel about Thanksgiving?
879
00:33:27,850 --> 00:33:29,330
People are on board?
880
00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:30,163
- Just us?
881
00:33:30,163 --> 00:33:33,942
- Rate it from drought to
slipping out of your chair.
882
00:33:33,942 --> 00:33:34,775
- Drought to slipping out of your chair.
883
00:33:34,775 --> 00:33:36,290
- I'm slipping out of my
chair for Thanksgiving.
884
00:33:36,290 --> 00:33:38,666
- Well, I'll say, you
know I don't really have
885
00:33:38,666 --> 00:33:40,430
like a lot of family,
and so I like to hang out
886
00:33:40,430 --> 00:33:42,350
with my family, but now
it's like I'm always invited
887
00:33:42,350 --> 00:33:43,940
to friend's houses and
I find it delightful.
888
00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:45,000
- [Vic] Oh, that's really nice.
889
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,990
- Yeah, I love it.
890
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:47,270
- Who are these people who have
891
00:33:47,270 --> 00:33:48,580
never been to a friendsgiving?
892
00:33:48,580 --> 00:33:49,710
- [Janie] It's great.
893
00:33:49,710 --> 00:33:52,420
- That they have to go
to Martin's mom's house.
894
00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:54,860
- Well she doesn't make friends
easily, for some reason.
895
00:33:54,860 --> 00:33:56,022
- You know that's a red flag.
896
00:33:56,022 --> 00:33:56,894
- [Grant] She's sort of a mess.
897
00:33:56,894 --> 00:33:59,260
- Yeah, she's awful,
honestly, that's on her.
898
00:33:59,260 --> 00:34:00,840
But, yeah, Thanksgiving rules, right?
899
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,829
- I love Thanksgiving.
900
00:34:01,829 --> 00:34:04,100
- I also wonder, is Lynn actually just
901
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:06,730
a really nice woman who's taking in all
902
00:34:06,730 --> 00:34:09,420
of these orphans and we're just hearing it
903
00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:11,570
from their perspective
that she's like a bitch?
904
00:34:11,570 --> 00:34:12,917
- Well, they did hear her yell,
905
00:34:12,917 --> 00:34:14,950
"And none of them spoke English."
906
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:17,000
- [Vic] Oh, that's true,
yeah, she's a monster.
907
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,224
- That's right, that's the only detail
908
00:34:19,224 --> 00:34:20,918
that we have about her is that she's--
909
00:34:20,918 --> 00:34:21,751
- She could just be dumb.
910
00:34:21,751 --> 00:34:23,980
- Oh, I think she definitely is.
911
00:34:23,980 --> 00:34:26,148
- Maybe she thought she
was in Athens, Ohio.
912
00:34:26,148 --> 00:34:29,318
- Athens, Ohio is a great city.
913
00:34:29,318 --> 00:34:31,028
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great.
914
00:34:31,028 --> 00:34:32,280
- I guess Thanksgiving is, it's decidedly
915
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,740
like the least sexy
holiday of the major ones.
916
00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:35,573
- [Grant] I disagree.
917
00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:36,406
- [Janie] What do you think?
918
00:34:36,406 --> 00:34:38,540
- I actually think Thanksgiving
is kind of a sexy holiday.
919
00:34:38,540 --> 00:34:39,945
- I do, too.
920
00:34:39,945 --> 00:34:41,960
- [Janie] I'm curious.
921
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,750
- First of all, the light
is usually very low,
922
00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:48,790
which is very important for Thanksgiving.
923
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:51,670
You're usually all covered
in grease from the turkey.
924
00:34:51,670 --> 00:34:54,420
Vic's fully on board with this
925
00:34:54,420 --> 00:34:55,647
because we're fully in agreement
926
00:34:55,647 --> 00:34:56,957
that's the hottest thing about this.
927
00:34:56,957 --> 00:34:58,644
- [Zac] Now Grant is...
928
00:34:58,644 --> 00:34:59,744
- Is the fat of the turkey on your hands?
929
00:34:59,744 --> 00:35:02,413
- Is the fat of the turkey
on your small, baby hand?
930
00:35:02,413 --> 00:35:04,570
- You're covered in grease.
931
00:35:04,570 --> 00:35:06,500
- I've had a Thanksgiving
with Grant before,
932
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:09,540
and he was covered in grease somehow.
933
00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:10,730
- I'll tell you what, actually my first
934
00:35:10,730 --> 00:35:11,840
Thanksgiving out here--
935
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,790
- [Zac] Oh, my god.
936
00:35:13,814 --> 00:35:18,814
- My first Thanksgiving in
L.A. was at Trap's house,
937
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,430
and Zac and Pat Castles were both there
938
00:35:22,430 --> 00:35:24,260
- No last names.
939
00:35:24,260 --> 00:35:28,010
- And after Thanksgiving,
we went to Zac's house
940
00:35:28,010 --> 00:35:29,990
to get in the hot tub.
941
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:31,662
- I forgot about this.
942
00:35:31,662 --> 00:35:32,600
- What, wait, what?
943
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,740
- This ended, this book happened with me,
944
00:35:35,740 --> 00:35:37,650
Pat Castles, and Zac.
945
00:35:37,650 --> 00:35:38,927
- Are you Madison Fay?
946
00:35:39,762 --> 00:35:41,041
- Look, ah--
947
00:35:41,041 --> 00:35:42,300
- How did you guys not lead with this?
948
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:44,693
- It truly, I didn't put it
together until right now.
949
00:35:44,693 --> 00:35:49,010
- I didn't bring it up at first just
950
00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:53,336
because, I think it's
fine, I was house sitting.
951
00:35:53,336 --> 00:35:55,344
(group laughs)
952
00:35:55,344 --> 00:35:56,718
- For Lynn?
953
00:35:56,718 --> 00:35:58,326
- No, this wasn't, it wasn't then.
954
00:35:58,326 --> 00:36:03,150
- But, you know, it was
a, we went to Trap's house
955
00:36:03,150 --> 00:36:05,550
for Thanksgiving, and
then we were all leaving,
956
00:36:05,550 --> 00:36:10,550
and it was like do you guys
want to go to the hot tub?
957
00:36:12,527 --> 00:36:13,441
- This happened.
958
00:36:13,441 --> 00:36:14,620
- Did you take a five hour nap?
959
00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:16,076
- Yeah, I took a five hour nap.
960
00:36:16,076 --> 00:36:19,423
- We woke up in the middle of the night
961
00:36:19,423 --> 00:36:21,993
and me, Zac, and Pat all got together.
962
00:36:23,174 --> 00:36:25,137
- And it was time for the hot tub.
963
00:36:25,137 --> 00:36:26,481
- This is a true story.
964
00:36:26,481 --> 00:36:28,016
- Oh yeah, this happened,
it was a lovely night.
965
00:36:28,016 --> 00:36:29,623
- You guys shared Samantha,
that's hilarious, oh my god.
966
00:36:29,623 --> 00:36:31,898
- I'm Samantha by the way.
967
00:36:31,898 --> 00:36:34,340
- And I'm Reese.
- Oh, my god, wow.
968
00:36:34,340 --> 00:36:35,173
- Oh my god, it's so funny.
969
00:36:35,173 --> 00:36:36,340
You were gonna say too
that Thanksgiving is
970
00:36:36,340 --> 00:36:37,687
sexy in your mind.
971
00:36:37,687 --> 00:36:39,010
- I think it is, well mostly because
972
00:36:39,010 --> 00:36:43,030
oftentimes you're like, if
you are dating somebody,
973
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:46,030
it is often the first
time that you're maybe
974
00:36:46,030 --> 00:36:50,070
in their childhood home or,
isn't there something fun
975
00:36:50,070 --> 00:36:52,544
about sleeping in
somebody's childhood bed?
976
00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:55,260
- Totally, 100%, that
is a fully great thing.
977
00:36:55,260 --> 00:36:56,093
- Is that insane?
978
00:36:56,093 --> 00:36:56,926
- No, no, no, no.
979
00:36:56,926 --> 00:36:58,401
- [Janie] No, I think it's true.
980
00:36:58,401 --> 00:36:59,359
- Is that creepy?
981
00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:00,356
- No, it's not.
- I love it.
982
00:37:00,356 --> 00:37:02,005
- It's also like when you're
home for the holidays,
983
00:37:02,005 --> 00:37:04,735
seeing all the people you
went to high school with,
984
00:37:04,735 --> 00:37:09,735
like around Thanksgiving
there's that weird college home
985
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:13,050
for the first time, and
everyone's getting just hammered.
986
00:37:13,050 --> 00:37:14,100
- [Grant] Totally.
- That's true.
987
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:17,580
- The night before Thanksgiving
is a night you end up,
988
00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:19,520
yeah, you go to someone, you usually go
989
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,170
to a party where you know some people.
990
00:37:21,170 --> 00:37:22,640
It's people you grew up with,
991
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,980
and then you end up maybe
sleeping with someone.
992
00:37:24,980 --> 00:37:28,200
It's like oh, hey, we were,
we used to sleep together
993
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,530
and now we both have our lives,
994
00:37:29,530 --> 00:37:32,402
but we're getting back
together for tonight.
995
00:37:32,402 --> 00:37:33,910
- Just one night and then
we'll go our separate ways.
996
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:37,566
- Yeah, yeah, that's great.
997
00:37:37,566 --> 00:37:40,260
I would say that, I'm trying to think
998
00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:42,470
of what's a sexier
holiday than Thanksgiving.
999
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:43,748
It's not Valentine's Day.
1000
00:37:43,748 --> 00:37:44,581
- No, that's too on the nose.
1001
00:37:44,581 --> 00:37:45,497
- No.
1002
00:37:45,497 --> 00:37:48,800
- Fourth of July is actually
kind of a sexy holiday
1003
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,490
'cause it's the middle of summer,
1004
00:37:50,490 --> 00:37:51,940
everything happens at night, you know,
1005
00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:53,440
you're there for like
the fireworks and stuff.
1006
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,830
- And you're not so full.
1007
00:37:54,830 --> 00:37:56,393
- Yeah, that's--
- Fourth of July
1008
00:37:56,393 --> 00:37:57,250
- That's really the
thing about Thanksgiving.
1009
00:37:57,250 --> 00:38:00,880
Where you're like just gonna
throw up from eating so much.
1010
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,902
Don't really feel horny
with, well I don't.
1011
00:38:03,902 --> 00:38:08,447
- I need to, it's like
swimming, I need a full hour.
1012
00:38:08,447 --> 00:38:10,393
I will cramp up.
1013
00:38:11,230 --> 00:38:13,856
- Fourth of July's a big like watermelon.
1014
00:38:13,856 --> 00:38:15,839
Like you do a lot of watermelons,
so it's a lighter meal.
1015
00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:17,183
- Watermelon, it's a lighter meal.
1016
00:38:17,183 --> 00:38:18,320
- I feel like the Fourth of July,
1017
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,720
that's hard for me just because
1018
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:24,340
it's like a day drunk kind of holiday.
1019
00:38:24,340 --> 00:38:26,210
I feel like I'm outside a lot
in the day kind of drinking.
1020
00:38:26,210 --> 00:38:28,313
- Yeah, that's true, you get
a little faded from the sun.
1021
00:38:28,313 --> 00:38:29,503
- And you get dehydrated.
1022
00:38:29,503 --> 00:38:32,210
- Then I'm done by like 7:00 p.m.
1023
00:38:32,210 --> 00:38:34,320
- I guess New Year's is classically,
1024
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,860
but I think people get too drunk.
1025
00:38:35,860 --> 00:38:37,770
- People get too drunk and
people put a lot of pressure
1026
00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:40,780
on New Year's to make something happen.
1027
00:38:40,780 --> 00:38:43,280
- It is sexual, but it's a sad sexual.
1028
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,930
- Yeah, we're fucking 'cause
the ship is going down.
1029
00:38:45,930 --> 00:38:47,757
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody's so sad.
1030
00:38:47,757 --> 00:38:48,694
- Exactly.
1031
00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:49,965
- Just have to get one
in before we're done.
1032
00:38:49,965 --> 00:38:51,120
- I guess I'm hearing this
argument for Thanksgiving.
1033
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,400
I'm feeling more on board
about it being sexy.
1034
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,610
- Yeah, at the very least,
the Thanksgiving break.
1035
00:38:56,610 --> 00:38:57,682
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
1036
00:38:57,682 --> 00:39:02,682
- The Thanksgiving holiday
itself is, although,
1037
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,890
no this wasn't gonna be a good detail.
1038
00:39:05,890 --> 00:39:07,200
- No, say it.
1039
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,710
- [Janie] Can we tell,
can we tell you if it is?
1040
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:10,910
- Yeah, you let me know if it's important
1041
00:39:10,910 --> 00:39:12,560
that I share this with the group.
1042
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,100
My Thanksgivings we'd spend
a lot with the O'Brien side
1043
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:17,990
of my family, and they wouldn't eat dinner
1044
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:19,259
until like 8:00 or 9:00.
1045
00:39:19,259 --> 00:39:20,194
- [Zac] That's fucked up.
1046
00:39:20,194 --> 00:39:21,027
- Whoa.
1047
00:39:21,027 --> 00:39:21,860
- But a lot of people have dinner
1048
00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:22,727
at like 4:00 in the afternoon.
1049
00:39:22,727 --> 00:39:23,879
- I would do that, but my family we were
1050
00:39:23,879 --> 00:39:25,077
just bad cooks so
everything would be delayed.
1051
00:39:25,077 --> 00:39:27,280
It wasn't intentional,but
you do it at like 2:00 p.m.?
1052
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,280
- Even like 4:00, I feel
like if you're gonna eat
1053
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,881
that much, I'm happy to start early.
1054
00:39:33,881 --> 00:39:36,440
Then I usually kind of don't eat lunch,
1055
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,620
right, for Thanksgiving.
1056
00:39:37,620 --> 00:39:39,329
- [Grant] Yeah.
- Yeah.
1057
00:39:39,329 --> 00:39:40,420
- Yeah, 'cause I don't think
you eat all day, right?
1058
00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:41,560
You're waiting for the meal so--
1059
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,980
- Yeah, you're sort of
picking stuff off the...
1060
00:39:42,980 --> 00:39:44,750
- You can have like a late night sandwich.
1061
00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:47,130
You can kind of do another
little late night thing, too.
1062
00:39:47,130 --> 00:39:47,963
- [Vic] Yeah.
- Yeah.
1063
00:39:47,963 --> 00:39:49,820
- Or go fuck someone you
went to high school with.
1064
00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:51,160
- [Janie] Yeah.
- Sure.
1065
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:51,993
- Lots of options here.
1066
00:39:51,993 --> 00:39:53,790
- There's a lot of options,
I don't think we got--
1067
00:39:53,790 --> 00:39:55,170
- A late night, we all
have many kinds, hey.
1068
00:39:55,170 --> 00:39:57,847
- In the timeline of
the story, I believe--
1069
00:39:57,847 --> 00:39:58,680
- Thanks.
- You're welcome.
1070
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,410
- From beginning, I think
what we've established is
1071
00:40:00,410 --> 00:40:02,230
like we're not even in Thanksgiving yet
1072
00:40:02,230 --> 00:40:04,370
this whole entire time,
the amount of things
1073
00:40:04,370 --> 00:40:05,970
that happen, even into the epilogue.
1074
00:40:05,970 --> 00:40:07,680
I think their company has been established
1075
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,800
and they are living together
by the time Thanksgiving hits.
1076
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,760
They're not, there's so much that happens.
1077
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,040
So I don't think we get a lot
of Thanksgiving in this story.
1078
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,720
- This book happens not on Thanksgiving.
1079
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:16,640
It's the night before.
1080
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,473
- [Janie] It is.
1081
00:40:17,473 --> 00:40:19,000
- Well, technically the morning of.
1082
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,432
- That's true.
1083
00:40:20,432 --> 00:40:22,160
- The early, the twilight of Thanksgiving.
1084
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,620
- Thanksgiving eve into
Thanksgiving twilight.
1085
00:40:24,620 --> 00:40:25,453
- [Vic] Yes.
- Yeah.
1086
00:40:25,453 --> 00:40:27,920
- We also didn't talk
about the hilarious jokes
1087
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,997
that the author included in this book.
1088
00:40:29,997 --> 00:40:30,996
- Oh, Lord.
- Oh, like what?
1089
00:40:30,996 --> 00:40:34,830
- Well, for example, when
they get done having sex
1090
00:40:34,830 --> 00:40:39,830
in the basement, one of
the two brother twins says,
1091
00:40:41,412 --> 00:40:44,657
"I didn't think we were having
stuffing until tomorrow."
1092
00:40:45,536 --> 00:40:46,766
- Until dinner. (laughs)
1093
00:40:46,766 --> 00:40:49,170
- And then the other guy
says, "I was gonna make a joke
1094
00:40:49,170 --> 00:40:54,170
about too much gravy," his line is that.
1095
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:58,810
- And they all laugh and go
upstairs together on that line.
1096
00:40:58,810 --> 00:41:01,350
- I always like when
they include in lines,
1097
00:41:01,350 --> 00:41:04,268
like, and they all laugh, a
lot, you know what I mean?
1098
00:41:04,268 --> 00:41:07,350
They include letting us
know that the characters
1099
00:41:07,350 --> 00:41:11,390
in this book found what was
just said very, very funny.
1100
00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:13,580
- And now all they know
about each other is
1101
00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:16,530
that they make shitty
jokes and one has a beard.
1102
00:41:16,530 --> 00:41:18,150
- And one has a beard.
1103
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:19,368
- No other defining characteristics
1104
00:41:19,368 --> 00:41:21,100
of either one of those dudes.
1105
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:23,306
- Well I guess they all have
the same sense of humor.
1106
00:41:23,306 --> 00:41:26,170
It's like you found your tribe here,
1107
00:41:26,170 --> 00:41:27,640
because if you're all
making the same jokes,
1108
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,830
and you all think you're hilarious,
1109
00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:31,500
like, yes, please live in
this SoHo space together.
1110
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:32,530
This is meant to be, you know?
1111
00:41:32,530 --> 00:41:34,279
- Yeah.
- [Vic] Yeah.
1112
00:41:34,279 --> 00:41:35,290
- Gravy, good Lord.
- Gravy.
1113
00:41:35,290 --> 00:41:37,230
- And she worked for an app called Finger.
1114
00:41:37,230 --> 00:41:38,258
- Finger.
- [Vic] Finger.
1115
00:41:38,258 --> 00:41:41,930
- Oh, yeah, what did Finger do?
1116
00:41:41,930 --> 00:41:43,363
- It was a dating app.
1117
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:47,470
- It was a dating app, and I
think we can fill in the gaps.
1118
00:41:47,470 --> 00:41:48,660
- Oh, we'll fill in the gaps.
1119
00:41:48,660 --> 00:41:50,170
- It sounds like that's
what you're on the app
1120
00:41:50,170 --> 00:41:51,560
for is to get those gaps filled.
1121
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,652
- Oh, baby.
1122
00:41:52,652 --> 00:41:56,413
- We have the same sense of
humor as the boys in the book.
1123
00:41:56,413 --> 00:41:57,246
- Oh, I didn't think we were having
1124
00:41:57,246 --> 00:41:58,933
stuffing until Thanksgiving.
1125
00:41:58,933 --> 00:41:59,773
- Oh, my god.
1126
00:41:59,773 --> 00:42:00,750
- I personally loved this book.
1127
00:42:00,750 --> 00:42:01,583
I thought it was super fun.
1128
00:42:01,583 --> 00:42:02,950
- You know I walked into it with
1129
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:06,493
a bad attitude about it,
but now, I kinda like it.
1130
00:42:06,493 --> 00:42:08,528
- Did you have a favorite sex scene?
1131
00:42:08,528 --> 00:42:11,120
And that's a question for the group.
1132
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,420
Which of the sexes was the best?
1133
00:42:13,420 --> 00:42:15,613
- Probably when they were
destroying that guy's car.
1134
00:42:16,771 --> 00:42:19,626
- Smashing the windshield.
1135
00:42:19,626 --> 00:42:21,270
- Just taking a step
back and just remembering
1136
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:23,744
that they have just been
fucking in a hot tub
1137
00:42:23,744 --> 00:42:27,110
and they're just destroying
a Porsche of a drunk guy.
1138
00:42:27,110 --> 00:42:29,230
Like they were trying to
be so discreet earlier,
1139
00:42:29,230 --> 00:42:31,743
and they're just throwing rocks at a car.
1140
00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:37,380
- That's right, at a
stranger's house, who's asleep.
1141
00:42:37,380 --> 00:42:40,890
Who's gonna come out tomorrow
and be like what happened?
1142
00:42:41,980 --> 00:42:44,030
Oh, those two giants who were at my party
1143
00:42:45,050 --> 00:42:47,623
beat the shit out of a Porsche and left.
1144
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,128
- Oh, god.
1145
00:42:50,128 --> 00:42:51,033
- Yeah, it's crazy.
1146
00:42:51,033 --> 00:42:53,310
They spend so much time
talking about her hair.
1147
00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:54,940
Like that's such a huge part of it.
1148
00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:58,120
- I know she has a hair, I
know she has little shoulders,
1149
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,953
and that's all.
1150
00:42:58,953 --> 00:43:01,080
- Big hair, little shoulders,--
1151
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,068
- [Zac] She has green eyes.
1152
00:43:02,068 --> 00:43:03,097
- Green eyes.
1153
00:43:03,097 --> 00:43:04,820
- Physically what we know
about the guys is chest
1154
00:43:04,820 --> 00:43:07,140
on one and beard on the other, right?
1155
00:43:07,140 --> 00:43:07,973
We don't really know
much about other parts?
1156
00:43:07,973 --> 00:43:10,190
- I thought their physical
stature was the same.
1157
00:43:10,190 --> 00:43:13,600
Just 'cause she saw one and
thought it was the other.
1158
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,610
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
1159
00:43:14,610 --> 00:43:15,750
- Except for the beard.
1160
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:19,360
- We do have another piece
of physical description,
1161
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,980
which is when Reese gets a boner
1162
00:43:21,980 --> 00:43:24,243
and he pulls it out for the first time,
1163
00:43:24,243 --> 00:43:27,256
it smacks him in the abs. (group laughs)
1164
00:43:27,256 --> 00:43:29,839
It smacks him right in the abs.
1165
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,870
- To have that much torque.
1166
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:34,564
- Well, to have that much torque--
1167
00:43:34,564 --> 00:43:36,143
- Boing, oing, oing, oing, oing.
1168
00:43:36,143 --> 00:43:39,243
- It's so funny to me that
it just like slaps him.
1169
00:43:40,770 --> 00:43:42,930
Now, look, that's a kind of erection.
1170
00:43:42,930 --> 00:43:45,080
Everyone's penis is their
own penis, that's fine.
1171
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,004
But it's really silly
if it just smacks you
1172
00:43:48,004 --> 00:43:52,310
if you take it out, and
makes a smacking noise.
1173
00:43:52,310 --> 00:43:54,398
- I liked that detail
because it felt real.
1174
00:43:54,398 --> 00:43:58,080
- It's like, oh this is
a feature of this person.
1175
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,962
- That's so funny, oh my god.
1176
00:43:59,962 --> 00:44:03,570
- It would be, again, viewer your boner
1177
00:44:03,570 --> 00:44:06,550
can be however it is and
everyone's wonderful.
1178
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:08,200
It'd be hard to have sex with a boner
1179
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,180
that you'd have to keep
pointing it down all the time.
1180
00:44:11,180 --> 00:44:13,268
- Oh, so we're thinking that that's like,
1181
00:44:13,268 --> 00:44:16,754
it wasn't just a reflexive thing,
1182
00:44:16,754 --> 00:44:20,229
it's natural state is up against the abs.
1183
00:44:20,229 --> 00:44:22,610
- I would have to imagine
because otherwise it's,
1184
00:44:22,610 --> 00:44:25,006
maybe not, maybe you're
right, maybe it just--
1185
00:44:25,006 --> 00:44:26,830
- Because we pulled the
underwear down so quickly
1186
00:44:26,830 --> 00:44:28,690
that it went like ,it
went down up really fast.
1187
00:44:28,690 --> 00:44:30,180
- Yeah, that's probably it.
1188
00:44:30,180 --> 00:44:32,740
- Isn't it also, can't you get a surgery,
1189
00:44:32,740 --> 00:44:35,120
there's some kind of
muscle that when you get
1190
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,129
an erection it determines,
oops sorry, how high it goes.
1191
00:44:39,129 --> 00:44:40,940
So you can like cut--
1192
00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:42,676
- But use the mic to act out the material.
1193
00:44:42,676 --> 00:44:46,510
- So I think you can get
one snipped, if you get a--
1194
00:44:46,510 --> 00:44:47,487
- There's a surgery you can get
1195
00:44:47,487 --> 00:44:50,580
for an enlargement where there's
a ligament you can get cut.
1196
00:44:50,580 --> 00:44:51,720
- All you do is snip a ligament.
1197
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:53,900
So maybe he has super tight ligaments,
1198
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:55,528
and he just needs to stretch
more, he needs to work it out.
1199
00:44:55,528 --> 00:44:56,536
- What it sounds like to me--
1200
00:44:56,536 --> 00:44:57,893
- What kind of CrossFit would
you have to do for that?
1201
00:44:57,893 --> 00:45:00,997
- It's just, this poor
guy and his painful boner.
1202
00:45:00,997 --> 00:45:01,830
- Yeah, that sucks, I mean it worked out.
1203
00:45:01,830 --> 00:45:04,560
Everyone's so happy in
the end of this book.
1204
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,370
I think my favorite
sex scene may have been
1205
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:10,300
the 30-minute does she know she's
1206
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:11,540
having sex with the wrong person?
1207
00:45:11,540 --> 00:45:14,440
Is this a completely consensual situation?
1208
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,390
What is happening freak out
1209
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:17,840
that I had when reading the book
1210
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,110
of am I supposed to be reading this?
1211
00:45:20,110 --> 00:45:22,253
That was for me, personally, a highlight.
1212
00:45:23,310 --> 00:45:26,513
- I also liked that.
1213
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,346
I also thought that was
a bit of a highlight.
1214
00:45:30,346 --> 00:45:34,730
Mostly because there wasn't any sort
1215
00:45:34,730 --> 00:45:36,920
of weird friendship politics that I had
1216
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,410
to navigate that everyone
else seemed indifferent to.
1217
00:45:39,410 --> 00:45:40,730
- Oh, my god, that's the erotica
1218
00:45:40,730 --> 00:45:42,350
of friendship with no jealousy.
1219
00:45:42,350 --> 00:45:44,930
That's sort of the
fantasy I'm entering into.
1220
00:45:44,930 --> 00:45:46,640
It's just like a beautiful friendship
1221
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,020
where we all share and want
good things for each other.
1222
00:45:49,020 --> 00:45:51,063
That's really like, mmm,
I could get into that.
1223
00:45:51,063 --> 00:45:54,900
- I would say maybe my
favorite part is when she goes
1224
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:57,530
up to her room and she's maybe kind
1225
00:45:57,530 --> 00:46:00,140
of getting into it
herself, and then she hears
1226
00:46:00,140 --> 00:46:03,100
her stepmom's voice, and falls asleep.
1227
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:04,523
- [Zac] For five hours.
1228
00:46:04,523 --> 00:46:06,760
- Yeah, she was about
to start masturbating
1229
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,250
and then fell asleep for five hours.
1230
00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:10,350
And who among us hasn't been there?
1231
00:46:10,350 --> 00:46:11,946
- I mean, it felt real.
1232
00:46:11,946 --> 00:46:16,100
- I have, fuck it, nevermind.
1233
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:17,839
- No, go on.
1234
00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:19,718
- No, that's my reaction, it's like,
1235
00:46:19,718 --> 00:46:21,900
should I jack off until I cum?
1236
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:23,866
No, nevermind, I'm just gonna go to sleep.
1237
00:46:23,866 --> 00:46:24,699
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1238
00:46:24,699 --> 00:46:25,920
- I won't even bother
turning off the lights
1239
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,047
or moving my phone out of my bed, yeah.
1240
00:46:29,047 --> 00:46:30,470
- And that's Thanksgiving.
1241
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:31,539
- And that's Thanksgiving baby.
1242
00:46:31,539 --> 00:46:33,100
- And that's how I spent Thanksgiving.
1243
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:35,490
Another one of my favorite
parts is that a couple
1244
00:46:35,490 --> 00:46:39,173
of times the guys are described
as wearing wet boxers.
1245
00:46:40,050 --> 00:46:41,920
Like in the basement sex scene.
1246
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,657
- Like it's a hot thing, not just gross.
1247
00:46:44,657 --> 00:46:45,680
- Yeah, not just gross as hell.
1248
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,070
- Going back to this whole
anatomy lesson available
1249
00:46:48,070 --> 00:46:50,430
in this book, take that thing off,
1250
00:46:50,430 --> 00:46:53,170
shower, clean up, there
were so many sex scenes
1251
00:46:53,170 --> 00:46:55,750
in here too where they had
hot tub grossness on them,
1252
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:57,880
and then they re-entered
each other and stuff.
1253
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,820
It's like, no, you gotta be clean.
1254
00:47:00,820 --> 00:47:02,590
- At least change your boxers.
1255
00:47:02,590 --> 00:47:05,183
If you wore them into the hot tub,
1256
00:47:05,183 --> 00:47:07,260
you've already seen each other naked.
1257
00:47:07,260 --> 00:47:10,030
You can just lose the boxers.
1258
00:47:10,030 --> 00:47:11,510
- I guess that's it, right, it's the idea
1259
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:14,850
of like they're dripping wet
so you can see everything,
1260
00:47:14,850 --> 00:47:16,360
but then we immediately see everything
1261
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,265
so what illusion are we playing into?
1262
00:47:19,265 --> 00:47:23,520
- And wet boxers, I could
see how in one's fantasy
1263
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,970
that might be appealing, but
in reality they'd just be
1264
00:47:25,970 --> 00:47:29,900
sort of droopy and loose and
sort of like smacking around.
1265
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:30,733
- [Zac] Or like soggy.
1266
00:47:30,733 --> 00:47:32,950
- We're talking like traditional boxers
1267
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:33,783
that go down to here, baggy.
1268
00:47:33,783 --> 00:47:36,264
- 'Cause otherwise I feel like
she'd specify boxer briefs.
1269
00:47:36,264 --> 00:47:37,197
- [Janie] Like a board short.
1270
00:47:37,197 --> 00:47:39,602
- I don't know, I feel like she
could've just been anything.
1271
00:47:39,602 --> 00:47:42,187
- It could've been anything.
1272
00:47:42,187 --> 00:47:46,290
Now did it feel bi to anybody else?
1273
00:47:46,290 --> 00:47:47,425
Is that me projecting?
1274
00:47:47,425 --> 00:47:50,630
- They were very close friends
1275
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:53,060
to the point where I was
like they're kind of in love.
1276
00:47:53,060 --> 00:47:54,240
- Yeah.
1277
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:55,310
- But I thought they
should have gone in harder
1278
00:47:55,310 --> 00:47:57,050
on just being like
we're sexually attracted
1279
00:47:57,050 --> 00:47:59,510
to each other because I
felt like it was there,
1280
00:47:59,510 --> 00:48:00,653
but they weren't saying it.
1281
00:48:00,653 --> 00:48:05,230
- They were immediately
so comfortable just laying
1282
00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:09,513
in the bed together and all
three of them laying in a pile,
1283
00:48:10,650 --> 00:48:13,190
which is great, but, yeah, say so.
1284
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:15,580
- Yeah, it felt like the authors
was clearly making a point
1285
00:48:15,580 --> 00:48:18,150
like they are not bi, this is unusual.
1286
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:18,983
- [Grant] I agree.
1287
00:48:18,983 --> 00:48:20,868
- And it's like, no, this can be,
1288
00:48:20,868 --> 00:48:22,464
this is just them, it's all right.
1289
00:48:22,464 --> 00:48:23,620
- Yeah, that would have
been, what a great chapter
1290
00:48:23,620 --> 00:48:26,240
that would have been of like
if she is upstairs taking
1291
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:29,320
a shower, then it's like
what about the two of us?
1292
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,540
Should the two of us get into this?
1293
00:48:31,540 --> 00:48:32,520
- And then they're getting into it
1294
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,779
and then she walks in like mind if I join?
1295
00:48:34,779 --> 00:48:35,672
- That would be great.
1296
00:48:35,672 --> 00:48:36,943
- I love that, I love that.
1297
00:48:36,943 --> 00:48:37,776
- I agree, I agree.
1298
00:48:37,776 --> 00:48:38,895
- And then to know that she's cool with it
1299
00:48:38,895 --> 00:48:42,060
and then all of a sudden he's fucking her,
1300
00:48:42,060 --> 00:48:45,425
and he's sucking the other one's cock,
1301
00:48:45,425 --> 00:48:50,170
and then all of a sudden
I'm there and she leaves,
1302
00:48:50,170 --> 00:48:52,283
and then everyone just fucks me.
1303
00:48:53,354 --> 00:48:54,187
- Yeah.
- That's so true.
1304
00:48:54,187 --> 00:48:55,840
- That would be a great, I'd
love to see that rewrite.
1305
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:56,673
- Wouldn't that be a great book?
1306
00:48:56,673 --> 00:48:57,760
- [Janie] That's the epilogue.
1307
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,360
I do think that, yeah, for a book
1308
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,910
that is in some ways
so out there with sex,
1309
00:49:02,910 --> 00:49:06,530
it does hold certain outdated sexuality
1310
00:49:06,530 --> 00:49:09,510
ideas very much throughout.
1311
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:11,030
That is shocking, that is
a good point to bring up.
1312
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:12,900
- It did feel like it was missing
1313
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:14,827
from the book, like it felt absent.
1314
00:49:14,827 --> 00:49:17,790
The idea of like, the three big sex scenes
1315
00:49:17,790 --> 00:49:19,890
in the book are the garage thing,
1316
00:49:19,890 --> 00:49:21,640
where they don't actually have sex,
1317
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:22,754
they like are leading up to it,
1318
00:49:22,754 --> 00:49:26,860
then the hot tub, and then
in this basement bedroom.
1319
00:49:26,860 --> 00:49:29,107
It felt like there should be one with the,
1320
00:49:29,107 --> 00:49:31,857
you know, these guys have
been through a lot together.
1321
00:49:31,857 --> 00:49:35,490
- And tonight, especially,
should we maybe talk
1322
00:49:35,490 --> 00:49:37,250
for a quick second about what we're
1323
00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:39,610
gonna be like going forward?
1324
00:49:39,610 --> 00:49:40,990
- I mean it was so clearly, like,
1325
00:49:40,990 --> 00:49:42,810
I would imagine the
author's specific fantasy.
1326
00:49:42,810 --> 00:49:46,690
You know, what would it
be like to be Samantha
1327
00:49:46,690 --> 00:49:49,390
and have these two guys just want you?
1328
00:49:49,390 --> 00:49:52,490
Even regardless of sexuality
and where everyone is,
1329
00:49:52,490 --> 00:49:56,690
it's like these two guys want me.
1330
00:49:56,690 --> 00:49:57,523
That's the fantasy.
1331
00:49:57,523 --> 00:50:01,010
- Yeah, maybe she didn't want
to be jealous of those guys.
1332
00:50:01,010 --> 00:50:02,580
- Right, right.
- Interesting.
1333
00:50:02,580 --> 00:50:05,150
- Oh, yeah because that would bring up
1334
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:11,763
how revealing should I be right here?
1335
00:50:12,970 --> 00:50:16,750
I've slept with guy, girl couples before,
1336
00:50:16,750 --> 00:50:20,430
and it's gone badly when there hasn't been
1337
00:50:20,430 --> 00:50:24,080
some discussion before
of what do you two want?
1338
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,980
Because I don't want to
step on any kind of toes
1339
00:50:27,980 --> 00:50:30,874
and make anybody super jealous,
1340
00:50:30,874 --> 00:50:32,593
so what are we gonna do?
1341
00:50:33,580 --> 00:50:35,100
None of the discussion that leads
1342
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,860
to good three ways happened,
so I'm shocked it went well.
1343
00:50:38,860 --> 00:50:40,165
That never, ever happens.
1344
00:50:40,165 --> 00:50:41,930
- I'd imagine, yeah, you'd have to have
1345
00:50:41,930 --> 00:50:43,670
a lot of discussions beforehand.
1346
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:45,570
That's not the kind of
thing you can just do
1347
00:50:45,570 --> 00:50:46,823
in a hot tub on a whim.
1348
00:50:46,823 --> 00:50:49,300
- It ends up getting complicated.
1349
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:53,280
It doesn't have to, but it's better.
1350
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,980
- Especially in that last portion,
1351
00:50:55,980 --> 00:50:58,220
where it's the double penetration.
1352
00:50:58,220 --> 00:51:01,887
It's like there's no way that's
going as smoothly as it did.
1353
00:51:01,887 --> 00:51:03,150
- No, no.
1354
00:51:03,150 --> 00:51:06,360
- And also without them
touching each other ever.
1355
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,290
Because they made such a big point
1356
00:51:07,290 --> 00:51:09,996
of we never touch at any point.
1357
00:51:09,996 --> 00:51:11,610
- That would have been so hot
if the guys were touching,
1358
00:51:11,610 --> 00:51:13,041
and they never touch.
1359
00:51:13,041 --> 00:51:14,863
- They never touch.
1360
00:51:16,809 --> 00:51:21,809
- So, when you're double
penetrating someone,
1361
00:51:23,710 --> 00:51:26,457
you're cock is rubbing
up against another cock.
1362
00:51:27,362 --> 00:51:29,154
- Or at least the balls are touching.
1363
00:51:29,154 --> 00:51:31,243
- That's true, if someone's in the ass
1364
00:51:31,243 --> 00:51:33,180
and someone's in the vagina, yeah,
1365
00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:37,940
your fucking big full balls are dragging
1366
00:51:37,940 --> 00:51:41,556
on each others, and
that's hot, but say so.
1367
00:51:41,556 --> 00:51:46,180
It's like, oh shit, his balls
felt great against my balls,
1368
00:51:46,180 --> 00:51:49,884
or not, sometimes it
doesn't, and it's clanging,
1369
00:51:49,884 --> 00:51:52,893
and this sort of sucks.
1370
00:51:53,850 --> 00:51:56,500
- And then on top of that, on
top of all these logistics,
1371
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:58,260
in the end, this beautiful ending is
1372
00:51:58,260 --> 00:52:00,540
that they're living and working together.
1373
00:52:00,540 --> 00:52:03,330
Okay, dating someone you work with,
1374
00:52:03,330 --> 00:52:04,700
having sex with someone you work with,
1375
00:52:04,700 --> 00:52:07,790
every single contentious
relationship in your life
1376
00:52:07,790 --> 00:52:10,020
and that's the happy ending
is that they get this like,
1377
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:12,610
they're, I'm gonna say I feel
1378
00:52:12,610 --> 00:52:14,370
a little co-dependent in the end.
1379
00:52:14,370 --> 00:52:15,420
You need your own space.
1380
00:52:15,420 --> 00:52:17,150
You can't always be having sex,
1381
00:52:17,150 --> 00:52:19,620
working, and talking with the same people.
1382
00:52:19,620 --> 00:52:20,630
Have your own life.
1383
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:21,553
- [Grant] I agree.
- Yeah.
1384
00:52:21,553 --> 00:52:24,000
- What boring people you must be.
1385
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:24,833
- [Janie] Yes.
1386
00:52:24,833 --> 00:52:25,900
- To be able to make this work.
1387
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:27,397
- Like get a hobby, you know?
1388
00:52:27,397 --> 00:52:28,950
- And Samantha doesn't have anything
1389
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:31,710
of her own, it's like she
was at this Thanksgiving,
1390
00:52:31,710 --> 00:52:33,490
kind of come, she's being told what
1391
00:52:33,490 --> 00:52:37,130
to do by these two men,
and then the conclusion is,
1392
00:52:37,130 --> 00:52:40,250
oh, now I do what these
two guys that I'm with do,
1393
00:52:40,250 --> 00:52:41,994
which is like I'm a coder now.
1394
00:52:41,994 --> 00:52:42,827
- [Janie] Yeah.
1395
00:52:42,827 --> 00:52:45,017
- She has no aspirations or goals outside
1396
00:52:45,017 --> 00:52:48,350
of them other than I
guess working at this app.
1397
00:52:48,350 --> 00:52:49,870
- [Janie] App.
- Prism.
1398
00:52:49,870 --> 00:52:50,982
- Prism.
- [Janie] Prism.
1399
00:52:50,982 --> 00:52:55,500
- I know, I'm like make
some friends, you know?
1400
00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:57,217
- [Vic] Maybe she likes horseback riding?
1401
00:52:57,217 --> 00:52:58,176
- Maybe.
1402
00:52:58,176 --> 00:52:59,510
- I mean, there just wasn't enough room
1403
00:52:59,510 --> 00:53:02,180
in the 70 pages of this book.
1404
00:53:02,180 --> 00:53:05,904
- Real lean, I mean
lean, lean storytelling,
1405
00:53:05,904 --> 00:53:07,760
and that's what I really liked about it.
1406
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,390
I guess we're about wrapping up.
1407
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:13,340
Real quick, does everyone think
they're a Gavin or a Reese?
1408
00:53:15,362 --> 00:53:17,022
- I don't know the difference
between the two of them.
1409
00:53:17,022 --> 00:53:18,187
- The personalities are so distinct, yeah.
1410
00:53:18,187 --> 00:53:20,800
- To be honest, I think
I'm more of a Reese.
1411
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:21,823
- Wow.
1412
00:53:21,823 --> 00:53:22,656
- Why's that?
- I buy that, I buy that.
1413
00:53:22,656 --> 00:53:25,340
- I think Gavin, his first impression is
1414
00:53:25,340 --> 00:53:29,740
a little more forceful,
and I can't grow a beard,
1415
00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:34,740
so by default I think I'm a Reese.
1416
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,110
- You're a Reese, I think
I'm a Lynn straight up.
1417
00:53:37,110 --> 00:53:39,310
- I kind of am, too.
1418
00:53:39,310 --> 00:53:41,856
- Right, I never know what's going on.
1419
00:53:41,856 --> 00:53:43,280
- I host a party, and I just want
1420
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,480
to tell people about my vacation.
1421
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,950
- And then they go have their own fight
1422
00:53:45,950 --> 00:53:47,440
and I'm upset 'cause I'm not part of it,
1423
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,860
but, also, I don't know,
I don't want to know.
1424
00:53:49,860 --> 00:53:51,523
And I'm a buzzkill, okay?
1425
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,183
- I'm Shelly.
1426
00:53:55,470 --> 00:53:58,640
- You're the new
girlfriend, fiancee of Ken?
1427
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,532
- I don't know what's going on,
1428
00:54:00,532 --> 00:54:02,704
and then I find out and I'm like what?
1429
00:54:02,704 --> 00:54:03,537
- Whoa.
1430
00:54:03,537 --> 00:54:04,511
- [Janie] Because Shelly's fault--
1431
00:54:04,511 --> 00:54:05,424
- When did this happen?
1432
00:54:05,424 --> 00:54:06,412
Shelly's cool, I can tell.
1433
00:54:06,412 --> 00:54:07,330
- [Janie] Yeah, she doesn't know.
1434
00:54:07,330 --> 00:54:12,038
- I mean does she know that
they were cheating, you know?
1435
00:54:12,038 --> 00:54:13,010
- Oh, yeah, yeah.
- Good question.
1436
00:54:13,010 --> 00:54:14,210
- Well they kind of were like,
1437
00:54:14,210 --> 00:54:16,160
there's no way she didn't know.
1438
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,640
I think maybe she didn't know,
1439
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:22,640
but if I can't be Shelly, maybe Reese?
1440
00:54:24,419 --> 00:54:25,840
- That vibes, yeah, sure, definitely.
1441
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,554
- It does, I also can't grow
a beard, there's no way.
1442
00:54:29,554 --> 00:54:32,210
- That's really the decider,
that's the only kind
1443
00:54:32,210 --> 00:54:34,404
of personality we have dealt here.
1444
00:54:34,404 --> 00:54:36,490
- But what I'll say, a
lot I'll be turned around
1445
00:54:36,490 --> 00:54:38,657
and people will be like, Karen,
1446
00:54:38,657 --> 00:54:41,930
and then I turn around and
they're like oh, I'm so sorry.
1447
00:54:41,930 --> 00:54:44,210
I was looking for somebody else.
1448
00:54:44,210 --> 00:54:46,301
So I could be a Gavin in that sense.
1449
00:54:46,301 --> 00:54:47,134
- [Janie] Oh, that happens a lot?
1450
00:54:47,134 --> 00:54:48,180
- I was looking for Karen Michalis.
1451
00:54:48,180 --> 00:54:50,217
- Yeah, Karen Michaelis.
1452
00:54:50,217 --> 00:54:51,750
- There, there it is.
1453
00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:52,583
So, with that--
1454
00:54:52,583 --> 00:54:53,439
- Unbelievable.
1455
00:54:53,439 --> 00:54:57,273
- Thank you all for joining
us on the Erotic Book Club.
1456
00:54:58,150 --> 00:55:02,160
I do hope that we tended this
garden particularly well.
1457
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,490
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
1458
00:55:03,490 --> 00:55:04,350
- We gotta rate it, right?
1459
00:55:04,350 --> 00:55:06,150
- We gotta rate it, yeah,
so everyone rate this book
1460
00:55:06,150 --> 00:55:10,890
on a scale from desert to
slipping out of my chair.
1461
00:55:10,890 --> 00:55:15,890
- What is, I guess I'm, my
chair needs to be cleaned
1462
00:55:19,420 --> 00:55:22,437
but I'm not quite slipping
out of my chair, right?
1463
00:55:24,532 --> 00:55:27,320
- [Grant] It's gonna
smell in a couple of days.
1464
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,050
- There was, you know, there's some things
1465
00:55:30,050 --> 00:55:32,340
that could have made it
slipping out of my chair
1466
00:55:32,340 --> 00:55:35,720
but I think there's, it's
just not all the way there.
1467
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:39,087
- Right, yeah, my chair doesn't
necessarily need bleach.
1468
00:55:41,036 --> 00:55:46,036
It just needs maybe a paper
towel and some organic spray.
1469
00:55:46,460 --> 00:55:48,940
It's not like, okay, this
chair needs to be burned.
1470
00:55:48,940 --> 00:55:51,243
It's like just a little
cleanup wouldn't hurt.
1471
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:57,630
- So, I'll say I was at the Shamu show,
1472
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,619
but I wasn't in the splash
zone, you know what I mean?
1473
00:56:00,619 --> 00:56:03,402
- Sure, it's humid from the saltwater.
1474
00:56:03,402 --> 00:56:04,577
- Your rose bath.
1475
00:56:04,577 --> 00:56:08,750
- Yeah, and maybe every
once in a while you get a,
1476
00:56:08,750 --> 00:56:10,740
like you know you're there,
if you closed your eyes,
1477
00:56:10,740 --> 00:56:15,740
there'd maybe be like the whale
squirts at you a little bit.
1478
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:17,673
- [Janie] Are you wearing a poncho?
1479
00:56:17,673 --> 00:56:18,930
- No, no, no, no I'm too
far back for a poncho.
1480
00:56:18,930 --> 00:56:21,597
- Who wants to spend
the money at that point?
1481
00:56:21,597 --> 00:56:22,786
- Who wants to spend
the money on it, yeah.
1482
00:56:22,786 --> 00:56:25,540
- I'm slipping out of my chair,
1483
00:56:25,540 --> 00:56:27,490
but because I'm covered in turkey grease.
1484
00:56:27,490 --> 00:56:30,290
- Which is the real turn on.
1485
00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:32,223
- That's the real hot part.
1486
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:36,460
Well the next episode
of the Erotic Book Club
1487
00:56:36,460 --> 00:56:40,940
will cover The Bearly Tamed
Grizzly by Jennifer Snow.
1488
00:56:40,940 --> 00:56:42,140
- Jenika Snow.
1489
00:56:42,140 --> 00:56:47,140
- Oops, sorry Marie, so if you would like
1490
00:56:48,610 --> 00:56:50,940
to read along, please catch up with that.
1491
00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:53,919
- Hopefully, you're subscribed to DropOut.
1492
00:56:53,919 --> 00:56:57,360
The CollegeHumor's subscription
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1493
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,240
this early and get all
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1494
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:04,210
and chat with the cast in the
exclusive DropOut Discord.
1495
00:57:04,210 --> 00:57:07,410
And if you're not, and
you're watching this on CH 2,
1496
00:57:07,410 --> 00:57:09,970
you're a fucking cheapskate
and media's dying around you
1497
00:57:09,970 --> 00:57:11,770
while you do nothing to change that.
1498
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:15,270
Thank you all for listening
to the Erotic Book Club.
1499
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:19,690
Please join Jess and
Rehka when they are back.
1500
00:57:19,690 --> 00:57:21,033
Thank you all.
1501
00:57:21,033 --> 00:57:22,853
- Thank you.
- Bye.
1502
00:57:25,853 --> 00:57:29,853
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