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- Do you remember
what it was like to be a kid
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during the Tylenol scare?
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- For me, it was horrible.
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- So what are you guys
doing in school today?
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- We're going to do
rotations and go to different
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classes today.
- Yeah?
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- The different ones that
we weren't in today in...
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yet this year.
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- I was the rock for
my mom and dad.
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I was trying to kind of keep
it together for everybody.
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Just looking at every emotion,
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everything everyone
was going through.
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And as a child, it just
really hits you hard.
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I just felt like...
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kind of like Isabelle,
for me, is my rock now.
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- 500 to... 550 rather to 100...
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- Now I see my dad, like, almost
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withering away just
because he has, like,
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no one left, except for us.
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- It almost caused
a national panic.
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- These deaths have
been associated with
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the presence of
cyanide in two containers
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of Extra-Strength Tylenol.
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- Do not take Tylenol
until further notice.
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- Cyanide is so deadly
an amount the size of a pea
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can kill you.
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- This was a stone-cold mystery.
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And people had died,
and many of them
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were in the same family.
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- I just knew
something was wrong.
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- Paula was murdered.
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She was just murdered.
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- We know that there's
somebody out there
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trying to poison people.
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- How could he pull off the
crime of the century perfectly
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and not get caught?
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- We're actively
pursuing this investigation.
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This is not collecting
dust on a shelf.
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- This could be our guy.
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- Do you think you
know who did it?
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- Yes.
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- You're going to let
a murderer just go?
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- Hi.
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- An important message
from the makers of Tylenol.
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- You are all aware of
recent tragic events in which
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Extra-Strength
Tylenol capsules were
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criminally tampered
with in limited areas
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after they left our factory.
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- Families were ruined by this.
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The mother coming home
from the hospital with her baby...
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brand-new baby... she died.
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We've got the girl who died.
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You've got the airline
stewardess who died.
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I mean, it's just, good
people who had a life to live
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died because of
someone's selfish
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and criminal act.
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- Authorities, who
are conducting
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an intensive investigation
into the poisoning deaths,
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feel tonight that some
progress is being made
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in the search for
the killer or killers.
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They are zeroing in on
fewer than a dozen suspects.
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- People then identified
the instrument of murder
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with something they had
in their medicine cabinet.
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That scares people.
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- I do, in fact, feel confident
that the case will be solved.
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I feel confident
from the standpoint
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that we have devoted
our best personnel
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to our investigation.
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- When I moved, I just
put everything in the bins.
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Oh, one more.
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- It's nice and light.
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- I know.
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This one's the
lightest one of them all.
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- Okay.
- Okay.
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Oh, my God.
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Here's Paula.
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God knows what we're doing.
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My hair was dark then.
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Oh, my God, can you
believe how dark it was?
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And here she is.
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That infectious
laugh, look at that.
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- That's a good one.
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Shows her big smile.
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- Yeah, this is a good one
that shows her big smile.
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God, I can't believe
I had such dark hair.
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- I know.
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- That's me 40 years ago.
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Oh.
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Here is a perfect picture.
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- Oh, that's a really good one.
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- This is the perfect
picture of Paula.
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- Yeah.
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- That's how she
was, drink in hand
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and big smile and big hair.
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- Mm-hmm, big hair.
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- Oh, too many memories here.
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- I'm Jean Regula Leavengood,
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and I was a dear
friend of Paula's.
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I considered her at
the time my best friend.
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I'm Carols Laabs.
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I flew for American Airlines.
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Paula flew for United Airlines.
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- We always had
bottles of Tylenol.
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First of all, with
the time changes,
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you know, you never felt rested,
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so you'd get a headache.
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Or we'd gotten together
for cocktails or a party,
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you'd have a headache.
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So it was part of our lives.
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And we could always pick
up trips to earn extra money,
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and that's what Paula
had done that day with the...
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we thought she was in Vegas.
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Come to find out, she
never made the Vegas turn.
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And she had given me a ride
downtown the whole month.
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And then this time, "She
said my flight got in early.
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"Yours is running late.
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"I'm going to go on
downtown, but I've got
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wonderful news to tell you."
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They used to put our paychecks
in a box on the counter,
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if you can believe that.
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And I just happened
to flip through it.
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And I saw mine, and
then I went and saw hers.
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And I said to the crew
desk, I said, "Wow,
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"I can't believe
Paula didn't pick up
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our paychecks last night."
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And he said, "Oh, she
was a no-show yesterday."
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I said, "What do you
mean she was a no-show?"
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And I came downtown,
called her sister,
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and told her that Paula had
missed her trip yesterday.
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Sorry.
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I just knew something was wrong.
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I don't know, it's
just a feeling I had.
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We went up to Paula's
apartment together.
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Carol Prince, her
sister, got there.
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We took the keys
and went upstairs
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and unlocked the door.
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And her body was on the floor.
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And Carol and I both, I
think we were so stunned.
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But we both... I
thought, we didn't
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know how long she'd been dead.
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We thought someone could
have still been in her condo
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with her.
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We just didn't know,
so we didn't go in.
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So we came down to
my place and called 911.
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- Her body was discovered
last night inside her apartment
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on Chicago's Near North Side.
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Investigators say it appears she
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had collapsed into her closet.
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Her sister, Carol Prince,
says she last talked
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with Paula on Wednesday.
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It is believed that Paula Prince
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took the Tylenol that
killed her sometime
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Wednesday evening.
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- And 40 years later, you
can close your eyes and see it.
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- I can.
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Something like that
you never forget.
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- Do you wonder what
the wonderful news was?
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- As it turns out,
she met this guy.
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And I guess they just
connected immediately,
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and they were
going to get married.
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You know, I think she would
have loved to have been married
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and be a mother, and
that never happened.
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And it's also maddening
that some evil person
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could get away with it.
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- While authorities
continue their investigation
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into the latest cyanide death,
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that of 35-year-old
Paula Prince...
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- Fix your tie for you?
- Okay.
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I am David C. Williams.
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Sorry my shirt
collar's not button.
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Retired colonel with
the Illinois State police.
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At the time of the
Tylenol murders in 1982
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I was a criminal
investigations unit commander
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in our Des Plaines Office.
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- Meanwhile, representatives
of Johnson & Johnson,
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the maker of Tylenol, stood by
at the Rush-Presbyterian-Saint
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Luke's Poison Control Center
to receive bottles brought
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in today by anyone
who has Tylenol with
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the suspected lot numbers.
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- You have to focus
on Johnson & Johnson.
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Were they... were they target?
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So I spent, and a few
other people like me,
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spent time with Johnson
& Johnson people
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talking to them about,
"Let's dig through your files.
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"Let's find out who
may have had a vendetta
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"strong enough
against your company
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to try to destroy you this way."
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- At first, the
Tylenol didn't really
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say anything for a while.
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Because they had
to be... they had to be
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clear about what had happened.
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And they certainly
were not going
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to make a blanket statement
and then have to go back on that.
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Because who would
ever trust them again?
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- In Washington, the head of
Johnson & Johnson spoke out.
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Wayne Nelson feels somebody
has it in for his company.
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- All I can tell you is it's
another deliberate attempt
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to sabotage the product.
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I am indicating that this
is a clear cut example
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of indiscriminate murder.
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- So it was random.
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Was it focused on
Johnson & Johnson,
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the makers of Tylenol?
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- Meanwhile, in Fort
Washington, Pennsylvania,
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where Johnson & Johnson
subsidiary McNeil Consumer
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Products, makes
Tylenol, Michael Schaffer...
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the Chief Toxicologist
of the Cook County
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Medical Examiner's Office...
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toured the plant.
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Outside the facility,
Schaffer told our IJ Hudson
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that he was satisfied that
no cyanide contamination
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occurred in the plant.
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- Unequivocally,
yes, I would say that.
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I don't think you could
probably have any other more
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secure system than
following the guidelines
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of McNeil or any other
pharmaceutical company.
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- In other developments
today, Johnson & Johnson
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announced that its subsidiary,
McNeil Consumer Products,
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has suspended production
on all Tylenol capsules.
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- Today, Tylenol bottles
filled with capsules, tablets,
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and liquid were coming
in by the thousands
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to the basement
of the Daley Center
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where Department of
Health workers were logging
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and sorting them for testing.
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- At this time, Roger,
we have analyzed
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in excess of 39,000 capsules,
an equal number of tablets.
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In response to
your next inquiry,
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which is going to be how
much has come in here,
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I can best describe it
to you in terms of tons.
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- Have you found
any with cyanide?
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- At this point, we have not.
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- Why would a thing like
this happen to this company?
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Why would they use
Tylenol as a murder weapon?
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Which was ingenious.
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Now, some people may
say crazy, but ingenious.
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Who would think of that?
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- The work of more than
100 law enforcement agents
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is being coordinated out
of the center in Des Plaines.
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They're working in teams.
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Attorney General Fahner
says they're following up
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on different
theories and talking
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to a lot of people
who might have
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had access to the Tylenol.
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- It seems more and more
likely that the tamperings occurred
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at the lower level, that is just
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before it gets to the store.
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And once again, I
can't be more precise
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than to say that's what the
investigators have told me,
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and this is what
we're developing,
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and that's the theory
we're proceeding upon.
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- It's been a long time.
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I don't really come up this way.
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This is where the media
would set up with all
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their cameras and things.
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The focus of our investigation
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and the homicides
we are investigating...
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We had press
conferences... not just me,
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but I was certainly
the lead of it...
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in the early days to let
people know what was going on
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and say, "Do not take Tylenol.
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Get this stuff off the shelves."
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It was a mess.
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I mean, you'd walk
out, and you thought
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you were reporting
in for the Super Bowl
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to go give a press
conference, really.
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I mean, it's much
busier out here now.
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The cross traffic, the
shopping centers, and...
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they're all pretty new.
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A lot of us were packed
into a small space.
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We had about ten desks around.
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So we would do our
work, and then people
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would go and do their thing.
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- That there is no progress.
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- My name is Ty Fahner.
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Back in 1982, I was the
Illinois attorney general.
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So every call that came in,
we took a name, we logged in,
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put down what their tip
was, and they were run down
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on a daily basis, distributed.
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- Police began collecting
Tylenol capsules
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from area stores and taking
them to a protected warehouse.
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One investigating team is
concentrating on a warehouse
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that may have
distributed at least one
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of the killer containers,
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a Jewel warehouse
in Melrose Park.
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Employee records are
being sought from warehouses
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and distribution points in
case a disgruntled employee
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is to blame.
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- We don't know
at this point in time
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if... to use a hypothetical...
some screwball could have gone
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and purchased a large
quantity of these materials
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and bottles and
then changed them
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and literally gone back
and put them on the shelves
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in the stores for whatever
reasons that would
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make a sick person do that.
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We would just
divide up the leads...
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is the best way I
can put it for you...
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and they would be distributed
and run down and either closed
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out or followed up upon.
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- There's somebody
who's doing this.
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And every single one of
these cases are connected.
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- Roger Arnold... 48 years old.
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Authorities are
interested in Arnold,
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because he had
cyanide in his home,
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because he worked
at a Jewel warehouse,
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because he worked
with the father of one
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of the cyanide victims,
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because he had
guns and literature
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about poisons in his home.
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- He gave us a
consent to search.
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And during the
search for the cyanide,
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we located five guns
and a lot of ammunition.
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- Police confiscated
a .30 caliber rifle,
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4 handguns,
ammunition, and books
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on explosives and poisons.
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Police say Arnold has refused
to take a lie detector test
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but maintain he
has no connection
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to the Tylenol case.
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- The man has 12, 13
years on the job with Jewel,
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took care of things around
the house on the outside.
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He was friendly.
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- Arnold visited his wife
at Central DuPage Hospital
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several times.
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Across the street, Frank's
Foods, the source of some
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of the tainted Tylenol.
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- I'm going to speak
for him, if I could.
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And I'd like to
just say that Roger
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is innocent of any
pending or suspected
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charges by any law
enforcement agent at this time.
329
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- We interviewed these people.
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It led to this, which might mean
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you've got three
other people to talk to,
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because this person
mentioned a few names.
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00:15:07,965 --> 00:15:10,793
- Authorities are stepping up
the hunt for Kevin Masterson
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of Lombard, who reportedly
had a long-standing
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grudge against Jewel.
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Until two weeks ago, Masterson
rented an upstairs room
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in this Lombard house where
last week authorities found
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two capsules of
Extra-Strength Tylenol
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and a box of empty
gelatin capsules,
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like the kind used in Tylenol.
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The landlord says
Masterson was mad at Jewel,
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because he claimed
his ex-wife was
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roughed up at a Jewel store when
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she was held for shoplifting.
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00:15:37,067 --> 00:15:38,861
Masterson thought this incident
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somehow led to their divorce,
347
00:15:40,413 --> 00:15:42,067
but investigators are reportedly
348
00:15:42,136 --> 00:15:43,724
concentrating
their search for him
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in Florida and California.
350
00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,688
- Now, a lot of the time on
these kinds of investigations,
351
00:15:48,758 --> 00:15:51,379
you're chasing shadows.
352
00:15:51,447 --> 00:15:54,033
- State investigators are
attaching new significance
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to the discovery of
Tylenol bottles and capsules
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in an Elgin motel
parking lot last Tuesday.
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00:15:59,931 --> 00:16:01,724
Two Kane County
sheriff's deputies
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00:16:01,793 --> 00:16:05,274
found 24 bottles and some
empty Tylenol capsules
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00:16:05,344 --> 00:16:07,033
strewn about the parking lot.
358
00:16:07,102 --> 00:16:09,620
The officers later
became ill with symptoms
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00:16:09,688 --> 00:16:12,206
one poison expert
says are consistent with
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00:16:12,274 --> 00:16:14,206
cyanide exposure to the skin.
361
00:16:14,274 --> 00:16:17,136
State investigators now
say it is a substantial lead
362
00:16:17,206 --> 00:16:18,447
in the investigation.
363
00:16:18,517 --> 00:16:20,724
- Some had been broken
open and emptied out
364
00:16:20,793 --> 00:16:22,413
and put back together again.
365
00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:25,136
- But they did not become
alarmed until two days later
366
00:16:25,206 --> 00:16:27,793
when the news broke
about the Tylenol death.
367
00:16:27,861 --> 00:16:30,379
Although the cartons
had vanished by then,
368
00:16:30,447 --> 00:16:32,654
some capsules were recovered.
369
00:16:32,724 --> 00:16:34,758
- Who would think of that?
370
00:16:34,826 --> 00:16:37,172
You know?
371
00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,481
What kind of mind
thinks about that?
372
00:16:39,551 --> 00:16:41,344
Were these people targeted?
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00:16:41,413 --> 00:16:43,379
Probably not, because
they bought these...
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00:16:43,447 --> 00:16:47,102
they all bought these
Tylenols at various drugstores
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00:16:47,172 --> 00:16:48,758
in their neighborhoods.
376
00:16:48,826 --> 00:16:51,136
How could you target
somebody to do that?
377
00:16:51,206 --> 00:16:52,758
Don't know.
378
00:16:52,826 --> 00:16:55,309
- Fahner said authorities
have now tested as many as
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00:16:55,379 --> 00:16:58,826
2 million Tylenol shelf
samples turned in so far
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00:16:58,895 --> 00:17:01,481
and that no cyanide
was found in any of them.
381
00:17:01,551 --> 00:17:04,240
Fahner also said that
as of today there is still
382
00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:06,517
no evidence of
industrial sabotage
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00:17:06,586 --> 00:17:08,067
or a manufacturing mistake.
384
00:17:11,413 --> 00:17:12,517
- The police were stymied.
385
00:17:12,586 --> 00:17:13,976
Remember, this is
a unique situation.
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00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,240
I don't think any law
enforcement official goes
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00:17:16,309 --> 00:17:18,354
to work in the morning thinking
they're going to have to solve
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00:17:18,377 --> 00:17:21,654
some bizarre mystery
of seven poisoned
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00:17:21,722 --> 00:17:24,136
people in different locations.
390
00:17:24,204 --> 00:17:26,005
I don't think there was
any playbook for that.
391
00:17:26,067 --> 00:17:28,136
- As soon as one lead
reaches a dead end,
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00:17:28,204 --> 00:17:30,964
there is another
tip to track down.
393
00:17:31,034 --> 00:17:33,344
Some of those leads
are coming from the stores
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00:17:33,413 --> 00:17:36,826
where the killer
capsules were purchased.
395
00:17:36,895 --> 00:17:42,275
- A picture of the "Tribune's"
back here in the Florida room.
396
00:17:42,344 --> 00:17:47,654
We have it hanging
on the wall right here.
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00:17:47,723 --> 00:17:53,413
This is the "Tribune"
front page 1982.
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00:17:53,481 --> 00:17:55,423
- Well, see the thing is, if
you put too much definition,
399
00:17:55,448 --> 00:17:57,792
then you start getting
the little... the matte
400
00:17:57,862 --> 00:17:59,240
finish on the photographs.
401
00:17:59,309 --> 00:18:01,448
- The search for the
Tylenol cyanide killer
402
00:18:01,517 --> 00:18:03,619
continues to center
on this photograph.
403
00:18:03,689 --> 00:18:06,240
It was taken by a security
camera in a drugstore
404
00:18:06,309 --> 00:18:07,792
on the Near North Side the night
405
00:18:07,862 --> 00:18:09,517
flight attendant Paula
Prince purchased
406
00:18:09,586 --> 00:18:12,240
the cyanide-laced
capsules that killed her.
407
00:18:12,309 --> 00:18:13,895
- Oh, Walgreens was
right away thinking,
408
00:18:13,964 --> 00:18:15,792
"Could this be the
guy with Paula...
409
00:18:15,862 --> 00:18:17,078
"that could be with
the stewardess?
410
00:18:17,103 --> 00:18:18,344
"Is he the killer?
411
00:18:18,413 --> 00:18:19,344
But the authorities
said, "We got to find out
412
00:18:19,413 --> 00:18:20,964
who this guy is."
413
00:18:21,034 --> 00:18:23,413
Right away, they thought they
had a real break in the case.
414
00:18:23,481 --> 00:18:25,895
- The photo is here
with me in the forefront,
415
00:18:25,964 --> 00:18:29,000
my friend, Fred,
in the background.
416
00:18:29,067 --> 00:18:32,448
Paula Prince is here
purchasing the Tylenol.
417
00:18:32,517 --> 00:18:35,309
And the mysterious
man of interest
418
00:18:35,378 --> 00:18:37,826
is in the far-rear in the photo.
419
00:18:37,895 --> 00:18:41,309
- One of the places where
death resulted and saw
420
00:18:41,378 --> 00:18:45,448
a person standing
around and taking
421
00:18:45,517 --> 00:18:48,862
something out of his
pocket in that general area.
422
00:18:48,931 --> 00:18:50,792
- We used to relax
every Sunday night
423
00:18:50,862 --> 00:18:53,895
and watch the reruns
of "The Rockford Files."
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00:18:53,964 --> 00:18:57,275
We used to get
stoned and chill out.
425
00:18:57,344 --> 00:19:00,826
So we headed down...
426
00:19:00,895 --> 00:19:03,067
to prep for the
following Sunday night,
427
00:19:03,136 --> 00:19:06,826
we headed down to
Old Town to buy a bong.
428
00:19:06,895 --> 00:19:08,550
And we had to stop
at the Walgreens
429
00:19:08,619 --> 00:19:10,378
to use the cash station.
430
00:19:10,448 --> 00:19:11,862
And it was there
that the picture
431
00:19:11,931 --> 00:19:14,689
was snapped with Paula.
432
00:19:14,758 --> 00:19:16,654
And it was just, like, whoa.
433
00:19:16,723 --> 00:19:21,723
It didn't quite settle in
what it was all about.
434
00:19:21,792 --> 00:19:23,619
It was just kind of
cool at that time.
435
00:19:23,689 --> 00:19:26,826
"Oh, I'm on the front
page of the 'Tribune.'"
436
00:19:26,895 --> 00:19:30,205
But then it kind of hit
that somebody died.
437
00:19:30,275 --> 00:19:32,309
Someone was murdered.
438
00:19:32,378 --> 00:19:35,103
You saw her at the
end before her death.
439
00:19:35,172 --> 00:19:37,448
And she was purchasing something
440
00:19:37,517 --> 00:19:40,481
that was going to kill her.
441
00:19:40,550 --> 00:19:43,205
It was the end of her life.
442
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,275
- As for the investigation
into the murders,
443
00:19:48,344 --> 00:19:50,067
state authorities
have no shortage
444
00:19:50,136 --> 00:19:51,517
of tips from the public.
445
00:19:51,586 --> 00:19:53,448
The problem, says
Attorney General Fahner,
446
00:19:53,517 --> 00:19:56,172
is that some of those
tips are misleading.
447
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,723
- We had a lady the other
day... to help you understand...
448
00:19:58,792 --> 00:20:01,448
who called in and gave
information that was highly
449
00:20:01,517 --> 00:20:03,275
credible and made sense.
450
00:20:03,344 --> 00:20:05,862
And we quickly dispatched
two agents thinking we
451
00:20:05,931 --> 00:20:07,689
could have solved this crime.
452
00:20:07,758 --> 00:20:09,689
She said she had
definite information,
453
00:20:09,758 --> 00:20:11,205
and it all made sense.
454
00:20:11,275 --> 00:20:12,423
When we got there, we
said, "Now, where did you get
455
00:20:12,448 --> 00:20:13,550
this information?
456
00:20:13,619 --> 00:20:15,034
And she says, "I
have a magic pen,
457
00:20:15,103 --> 00:20:16,596
"and it made me
write these things out,
458
00:20:16,619 --> 00:20:18,067
and I've told you about it."
459
00:20:18,136 --> 00:20:20,413
Now, if I brought that out
to you, you'd be disturbed,
460
00:20:20,481 --> 00:20:22,000
and I would be too.
461
00:20:22,067 --> 00:20:25,275
- And much of the information
you get is, in the long run,
462
00:20:25,344 --> 00:20:27,240
not valuable.
463
00:20:27,309 --> 00:20:28,689
But it's got to be asked.
464
00:20:28,758 --> 00:20:31,136
The questions have to be asked.
465
00:20:31,205 --> 00:20:33,000
- Although other state
offices were closed
466
00:20:33,067 --> 00:20:34,481
on this Columbus Day holiday,
467
00:20:34,550 --> 00:20:36,654
the task force
investigating the cyanide
468
00:20:36,723 --> 00:20:38,586
murders was still at work.
469
00:20:38,654 --> 00:20:40,964
Over the weekend,
investigators had knocked down
470
00:20:41,034 --> 00:20:43,895
several more false leads
and tied up some loose ends
471
00:20:43,964 --> 00:20:47,136
in the case but made
no substantial progress.
472
00:20:47,205 --> 00:20:49,034
- But frankly, the
authorities, let's face it,
473
00:20:49,103 --> 00:20:51,826
reality, they're up a creek
without a paddle at that time.
474
00:20:51,895 --> 00:20:53,527
They didn't know what
had happened, either.
475
00:20:53,550 --> 00:20:55,481
- As for the
investigation itself,
476
00:20:55,550 --> 00:20:58,344
there does not seem to have
been any sudden acceleration
477
00:20:58,413 --> 00:20:59,481
of progress.
478
00:20:59,550 --> 00:21:01,034
And State Attorney
General Fahner
479
00:21:01,103 --> 00:21:03,136
is meeting less and
less with the media
480
00:21:03,205 --> 00:21:04,758
to talk about progress.
481
00:21:04,826 --> 00:21:08,862
One by one, the leads are
checked out and discarded.
482
00:21:08,931 --> 00:21:12,136
And consequently, the list of
available leads grows smaller.
483
00:21:12,205 --> 00:21:13,895
- This was the kind
of murder no one
484
00:21:13,964 --> 00:21:15,654
in that room had ever worked.
485
00:21:15,723 --> 00:21:20,000
This is... this is nuts.
486
00:21:20,067 --> 00:21:22,826
Who would do a thing
like this to this magnitude?
487
00:21:22,895 --> 00:21:24,689
- New cases of food tampering
488
00:21:24,758 --> 00:21:26,689
are being reported
tonight in Illinois
489
00:21:26,758 --> 00:21:28,205
and around the country.
490
00:21:28,275 --> 00:21:29,654
- There were some copycats.
491
00:21:29,723 --> 00:21:30,837
Of course, there always are.
492
00:21:30,862 --> 00:21:35,240
In these notorious,
well-documented,
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00:21:35,309 --> 00:21:37,550
highly-publicized events,
494
00:21:37,619 --> 00:21:41,448
you have people out there
who, for whatever reason,
495
00:21:41,517 --> 00:21:43,103
want to do something similar.
496
00:21:43,172 --> 00:21:46,103
- In Winnetka, a bottle of
theatrical makeup exploded.
497
00:21:46,172 --> 00:21:49,550
In Ottawa, a broken needle
in a package of candy bars.
498
00:21:49,619 --> 00:21:53,000
In Peoria Heights, a darning
needle in a tube of ointment.
499
00:21:53,067 --> 00:21:56,654
In Mount Vernon, a sewing
needle hidden inside an apple.
500
00:21:56,723 --> 00:21:58,378
And elsewhere in
the country, there
501
00:21:58,448 --> 00:22:01,000
have been razor
blades found in hot dogs,
502
00:22:01,067 --> 00:22:04,240
prescription pills baked
into store-bought brownies.
503
00:22:04,309 --> 00:22:08,034
- It sort of like it opened
up a Pandora's Box of, "Gee,
504
00:22:08,103 --> 00:22:09,862
"look at the mayhem
we can cause.
505
00:22:09,931 --> 00:22:11,862
"Look at the trouble
we can cause
506
00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:14,723
by simply tampering with a
product that's on the shelf,
507
00:22:14,792 --> 00:22:16,073
and it doesn't really have a lot
508
00:22:16,136 --> 00:22:17,792
of safety protections to it.
509
00:22:17,862 --> 00:22:19,931
- The Tylenol tragedies
have made this
510
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,619
the Halloween tainted by fear.
511
00:22:22,689 --> 00:22:25,034
Chicago area
communities are responding
512
00:22:25,103 --> 00:22:26,964
to the new fears
and the new realities
513
00:22:27,034 --> 00:22:29,448
this Halloween
in different ways.
514
00:22:29,517 --> 00:22:32,654
Many children, like these
youngsters in Forest Park,
515
00:22:32,723 --> 00:22:35,448
are being legally
limited to a few hours
516
00:22:35,517 --> 00:22:37,103
of daylight trick-or-treating.
517
00:22:37,172 --> 00:22:39,550
Some towns are
holding supervised parties
518
00:22:39,619 --> 00:22:41,619
as an alternative
to trick-or-treating.
519
00:22:41,689 --> 00:22:44,895
And some families, trying
to avoid store-bought candy
520
00:22:44,964 --> 00:22:47,481
altogether, are
holding baking sessions
521
00:22:47,550 --> 00:22:48,872
so they will know
what their children
522
00:22:48,895 --> 00:22:51,103
will be getting ahead of time.
523
00:22:51,172 --> 00:22:54,275
Before school got out for
this Halloween weekend today,
524
00:22:54,344 --> 00:22:56,481
many children were
getting just one more
525
00:22:56,550 --> 00:22:57,792
warning from their teachers.
526
00:22:57,862 --> 00:22:59,240
- I'm awfully scared for them.
527
00:22:59,309 --> 00:23:02,205
I told them to make
sure not to eat the candy
528
00:23:02,275 --> 00:23:04,344
as they go along the street,
529
00:23:04,413 --> 00:23:06,862
to go home and have
it checked for anything,
530
00:23:06,931 --> 00:23:08,654
to smell the food,
to touch the food.
531
00:23:08,723 --> 00:23:11,550
- She got to let her
mom check it in case
532
00:23:11,619 --> 00:23:13,550
if there's any poison in it
533
00:23:13,619 --> 00:23:16,654
- What kind of
people would do that?
534
00:23:16,723 --> 00:23:18,689
- Crazy people.
535
00:23:18,758 --> 00:23:20,458
- Why aren't the authorities...
why can't the authorities
536
00:23:20,481 --> 00:23:21,517
arrest this man?
537
00:23:21,586 --> 00:23:23,550
He's a madman.
538
00:23:23,619 --> 00:23:25,034
There's no question about it.
539
00:23:25,103 --> 00:23:28,517
It baffled many people,
until the Lewis thing broke.
540
00:23:28,586 --> 00:23:31,067
- The story broke in early
editions of the "Sun-Times"
541
00:23:31,136 --> 00:23:32,758
and "Chicago Tribune."
542
00:23:32,826 --> 00:23:35,723
It told of a letter sent to
the manufacturers of Tylenol
543
00:23:35,792 --> 00:23:38,344
in which further cyanide
poisonings were threatened
544
00:23:38,413 --> 00:23:41,448
unless $1 million was
placed in a postal box
545
00:23:41,517 --> 00:23:44,931
at Continental Bank in Chicago.
546
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,481
- I'm Jeremy Margolis.
547
00:23:46,550 --> 00:23:48,448
At the time of the
Tylenol killings,
548
00:23:48,517 --> 00:23:49,797
I was an assistant United States
549
00:23:49,826 --> 00:23:51,309
attorney here in Chicago.
550
00:23:51,378 --> 00:23:53,240
I was the federal
prosecutor assigned
551
00:23:53,309 --> 00:23:54,895
to the Tylenol investigation.
552
00:23:54,964 --> 00:23:57,862
- The original extortion
letter from James Lewis
553
00:23:57,931 --> 00:23:59,413
to the makers of Tylenol
554
00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:01,826
was addressed to
Johnson & Johnson,
555
00:24:01,895 --> 00:24:04,654
parent of McNeil Laboratories.
556
00:24:04,723 --> 00:24:05,758
The letter read,
557
00:24:06,103 --> 00:24:07,654
"If you want to
stop the killing,
558
00:24:07,723 --> 00:24:11,862
then wire $1 million to an
account in a Chicago bank."
559
00:24:11,931 --> 00:24:15,172
- The Tylenol extortion
letters were received,
560
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,067
one by Johnson & Johnson
and one at the White House.
561
00:24:23,034 --> 00:24:26,136
The Pitney-Bowes
postage meter that
562
00:24:26,205 --> 00:24:29,654
was used to frank the
envelopes had a serial number.
563
00:24:29,723 --> 00:24:31,586
That serial number
traced back to a company
564
00:24:31,654 --> 00:24:33,654
called Lakeside Travel.
565
00:24:33,723 --> 00:24:36,034
The Continental Illinois Bank...
566
00:24:36,103 --> 00:24:38,586
now defunct bank...
account number
567
00:24:38,654 --> 00:24:41,172
that was listed as the
place that $1 million
568
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,895
should be wired in
order to stop the killings
569
00:24:43,964 --> 00:24:48,413
was also the bank account
listed to Lakeside Travel.
570
00:24:48,481 --> 00:24:51,275
Bureau agents very
quickly determined
571
00:24:51,344 --> 00:24:52,758
who had owned Lakeside Travel,
572
00:24:52,826 --> 00:24:55,000
because it was
then out of business,
573
00:24:55,067 --> 00:24:57,758
a man named Frederick
Miller McCahey.
574
00:24:57,826 --> 00:25:01,862
They found Mr. McCahey
and interviewed him and asked,
575
00:25:01,931 --> 00:25:04,136
in effect, "Who on
Earth would have
576
00:25:04,205 --> 00:25:07,136
"access to your
Pitney-Bowes postage meter
577
00:25:07,205 --> 00:25:08,654
"and your bank
account number that
578
00:25:08,723 --> 00:25:10,619
would write letters like this?"
579
00:25:10,689 --> 00:25:14,895
And he came up with
James and Leann Lewis.
580
00:25:14,964 --> 00:25:16,344
- The first name
he came up with.
581
00:25:16,413 --> 00:25:17,931
- Oh, immediately.
582
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,664
- Authorities say the
fingerprints of James Lewis,
583
00:25:19,689 --> 00:25:22,067
who lived in Chicago
as Robert Richardson,
584
00:25:22,136 --> 00:25:23,964
matched fingerprints
found on the ransom note
585
00:25:24,034 --> 00:25:25,448
sent to Johnson & Johnson.
586
00:25:25,517 --> 00:25:28,103
- He recalled a series
of incidents in which
587
00:25:28,172 --> 00:25:30,550
Leann Lewis, who had been a
temporary employee of Lakeside
588
00:25:30,619 --> 00:25:33,931
Travel before its
demise, was irate,
589
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,619
because her last
paycheck bounced
590
00:25:35,689 --> 00:25:37,413
when the travel agency closed.
591
00:25:37,481 --> 00:25:40,550
James Lewis... her
husband... was more irate.
592
00:25:40,619 --> 00:25:43,103
So according to
Lewis, the letters
593
00:25:43,172 --> 00:25:45,103
were written to draw
attention to McCahey
594
00:25:45,172 --> 00:25:48,172
so that his bouncing
of checks would be
595
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,550
discovered by the authorities.
596
00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:55,517
I don't think he was nearly
as bright as he thought he was.
597
00:25:55,586 --> 00:25:57,758
- The couple vanished
on September 3rd.
598
00:25:57,826 --> 00:25:59,964
That was the day they
moved out of their apartment
599
00:26:00,034 --> 00:26:02,931
on Chicago's North Side,
where the Lewis's had lived
600
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,103
for nine months under
the name of Robert
601
00:26:05,172 --> 00:26:06,723
and Nancy Richardson.
602
00:26:06,792 --> 00:26:08,388
- We don't know the answers
to whether or not they committed
603
00:26:08,413 --> 00:26:10,205
the cyanide killings.
604
00:26:10,275 --> 00:26:12,826
We do know that they
are the kind of people that
605
00:26:12,895 --> 00:26:16,344
are capable of it, and their
prior behavior would indicate
606
00:26:16,413 --> 00:26:17,492
that they're capable of it.
607
00:26:17,517 --> 00:26:19,034
And that's why
they are, obviously,
608
00:26:19,103 --> 00:26:20,702
of some prime nature,
if you want to call
609
00:26:20,758 --> 00:26:22,344
them a suspect or a lead.
610
00:26:22,413 --> 00:26:24,000
- Still no direct
evidence that they
611
00:26:24,067 --> 00:26:27,205
are the ones you need to
look for in the actual killings.
612
00:26:27,275 --> 00:26:28,758
- We have no
direct evidence they
613
00:26:28,826 --> 00:26:31,689
are the ones we need to
look for in the actual killings.
614
00:26:31,758 --> 00:26:33,792
We obviously are
putting this effort forth
615
00:26:33,862 --> 00:26:35,240
because we think that...
616
00:26:35,309 --> 00:26:36,723
what we do know
about them and what
617
00:26:36,792 --> 00:26:38,931
is unfolding about
the two individuals
618
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000
leads us to believe that we...
619
00:26:41,067 --> 00:26:43,275
we could answer
that very quickly if we
620
00:26:43,344 --> 00:26:44,463
could get them into custody.
621
00:26:46,309 --> 00:26:49,136
- Lewis looked
seedy, unbalanced,
622
00:26:49,205 --> 00:26:52,000
he had done some
unstable things.
623
00:26:52,067 --> 00:26:54,586
He acted strange.
He said strange things.
624
00:26:54,654 --> 00:26:56,378
As I recall, he
bragged to some people
625
00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:59,895
he was going to get
even with a lot of people.
626
00:26:59,964 --> 00:27:02,413
So he became a strong suspect.
627
00:27:02,481 --> 00:27:04,275
- It was here in
Kansas City, Missouri,
628
00:27:04,344 --> 00:27:05,792
that police made
the connection that
629
00:27:05,862 --> 00:27:07,689
has become the
hottest lead so far
630
00:27:07,758 --> 00:27:10,000
in the search for the
Tylenol cyanide killer.
631
00:27:10,067 --> 00:27:11,964
Kansas City Police
Sergeant David Barton
632
00:27:12,034 --> 00:27:13,826
was watching an
evening news broadcast
633
00:27:13,895 --> 00:27:16,378
when he saw a picture of
a man who looked familiar,
634
00:27:16,448 --> 00:27:19,136
a man known in Kansas
City as James Lewis,
635
00:27:19,205 --> 00:27:22,136
a suspect in a bizarre
1978 murder case that
636
00:27:22,205 --> 00:27:24,448
was dismissed on a technicality
637
00:27:24,517 --> 00:27:27,067
and a suspect in a
land fraud scheme.
638
00:27:27,136 --> 00:27:29,550
- The victim, 72-year-old
Raymond West,
639
00:27:29,619 --> 00:27:31,136
was found in the
attic of his home,
640
00:27:31,205 --> 00:27:32,619
his legs cut off,
641
00:27:32,689 --> 00:27:34,654
his body stuffed
in a plastic bag
642
00:27:34,723 --> 00:27:37,413
and so badly decomposed
that the coroner could not
643
00:27:37,481 --> 00:27:39,103
determine the cause of death.
644
00:27:39,172 --> 00:27:41,034
But the Kansas City
murder connection
645
00:27:41,103 --> 00:27:44,172
is what caused authorities in
Chicago to take a second look
646
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,413
at the extortion
letter and begin
647
00:27:46,481 --> 00:27:49,378
forming a psychological
profile of the man
648
00:27:49,448 --> 00:27:50,931
who may have written it.
649
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,802
- And it's obviously an
important lead because the fact
650
00:27:52,826 --> 00:27:54,448
that he was involved
in a murder before,
651
00:27:54,517 --> 00:27:56,103
common sense will
tell you that perhaps
652
00:27:56,172 --> 00:27:59,723
that along with the Continental
Bank attempted extortion note
653
00:27:59,792 --> 00:28:02,619
would make it more
promising than anything else.
654
00:28:02,689 --> 00:28:05,309
- The Kansas City detectives
met with Chicago Police
655
00:28:05,378 --> 00:28:08,758
Commander Kenneth Curran
and his investigators all day
656
00:28:08,826 --> 00:28:11,103
going over cases of
evidence that might provide
657
00:28:11,172 --> 00:28:12,931
links to the Tylenol killings.
658
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,759
- There was reason to
believe, was there not,
659
00:28:14,792 --> 00:28:18,586
at the time that he fled in
1981 on the theft charges
660
00:28:18,654 --> 00:28:20,826
that he did come to Chicago?
661
00:28:20,895 --> 00:28:23,413
- Yes, we do have him in Chicago
662
00:28:23,481 --> 00:28:25,378
as late as February of 1982.
663
00:28:25,448 --> 00:28:27,723
- And the question becomes,
why was there not a hunt
664
00:28:27,792 --> 00:28:31,826
for him here at that time?
665
00:28:31,895 --> 00:28:33,309
- I can't comment on that.
666
00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:35,448
- And he made an
impression on neighbors
667
00:28:35,517 --> 00:28:37,792
who considered him strange.
668
00:28:37,862 --> 00:28:40,689
- I'll never forget those
eyes as long as I live.
669
00:28:40,758 --> 00:28:42,240
I would remember those eyes.
670
00:28:42,309 --> 00:28:43,448
And that...
671
00:28:43,517 --> 00:28:44,802
- What was memorable
about his eyes?
672
00:28:44,826 --> 00:28:45,758
- I don't know.
673
00:28:45,826 --> 00:28:47,378
I can't explain it.
674
00:28:47,448 --> 00:28:50,172
But I think maybe
that might have
675
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,481
been the reason some people
might have been afraid of him.
676
00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:55,250
- So most of the time,
he spent a lot of time
677
00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:57,115
filling out resumes,
sending them to companies,
678
00:28:57,172 --> 00:29:00,550
and investigating companies
to see what they did.
679
00:29:00,619 --> 00:29:02,344
- He always seemed
to be a real quiet person
680
00:29:02,413 --> 00:29:04,103
but very knowledgeable.
681
00:29:04,172 --> 00:29:06,964
He spent a lot of
time at the library.
682
00:29:07,034 --> 00:29:09,481
- While a nationwide search
for James and Leann Lewis
683
00:29:09,550 --> 00:29:11,723
continues, authorities
here in Chicago
684
00:29:11,792 --> 00:29:14,517
are awaiting the results of
an enhancement photo made
685
00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:16,378
by Space Agency officials.
686
00:29:16,448 --> 00:29:19,654
Investigators are hopeful
a blowup by NASA officials
687
00:29:19,723 --> 00:29:23,344
will determine if Lewis is the
man standing by a drugstore
688
00:29:23,413 --> 00:29:26,172
checkout line when
cyanide victim Paula Prince
689
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,550
purchased a bottle of Tylenol.
690
00:29:28,619 --> 00:29:29,550
- So there it is, right?
691
00:29:29,619 --> 00:29:30,550
- Right.
692
00:29:30,619 --> 00:29:31,792
Right.
693
00:29:31,862 --> 00:29:34,240
- He was up at the
checkout counter,
694
00:29:34,309 --> 00:29:36,034
and that was really vivid.
695
00:29:36,103 --> 00:29:38,895
And he was just
glaring at Paula.
696
00:29:38,964 --> 00:29:40,448
- Yeah, she still
had her uniform.
697
00:29:40,517 --> 00:29:42,103
She just came in from Las Vegas.
698
00:29:42,172 --> 00:29:43,664
- Right, she's just
come in from a trip.
699
00:29:43,689 --> 00:29:45,448
Well, I just knew in my heart
700
00:29:45,517 --> 00:29:46,895
it wasn't him,
701
00:29:46,964 --> 00:29:49,619
because he no more looked
like that man in the picture
702
00:29:49,689 --> 00:29:51,275
than the man on the moon.
703
00:29:51,344 --> 00:29:53,654
- The man who hired James
Lewis as a tax consultant
704
00:29:53,723 --> 00:29:56,000
and worked closely with
him for almost two months
705
00:29:56,067 --> 00:29:59,309
says he doubts that the man
in the Walgreens photo is Lewis.
706
00:29:59,378 --> 00:30:02,275
He said Lewis, whom he
knew as Robert Richardson,
707
00:30:02,344 --> 00:30:04,619
bears only a slight
resemblance to the man
708
00:30:04,689 --> 00:30:08,689
in the photo taken by a store
camera on September 29.
709
00:30:08,758 --> 00:30:13,723
- I would say the chances
are 9 out of 10 it's not him.
710
00:30:13,792 --> 00:30:16,034
- Channel 2 News took a
closer look at the photograph
711
00:30:16,103 --> 00:30:19,205
today using digital
electronics to produce
712
00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:21,240
this image of the bearded man.
713
00:30:21,309 --> 00:30:24,481
Chicago police say he
resembles James Lewis.
714
00:30:24,550 --> 00:30:25,826
- Looks like him, yes.
715
00:30:25,895 --> 00:30:29,826
But it doesn't... his
shoulders are too broad
716
00:30:29,895 --> 00:30:32,034
as far as I'm concerned.
717
00:30:32,103 --> 00:30:33,758
He wasn't that heavy of a man.
718
00:30:33,826 --> 00:30:36,240
- He was a tall man
with thin shoulders.
719
00:30:36,309 --> 00:30:40,172
And quite honestly, I'm
very doubtful that that is him
720
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,240
in the Walgreens photograph.
721
00:30:42,309 --> 00:30:46,067
- I remember contacting
the FBI, because they said,
722
00:30:46,136 --> 00:30:48,758
"If anyone has any
information, call this number."
723
00:30:48,826 --> 00:30:53,378
So I called the FBI and told
them that I was in the picture
724
00:30:53,448 --> 00:30:55,413
that they had published.
725
00:30:55,481 --> 00:30:59,240
So they came out... an agent
came out to my apartment
726
00:30:59,309 --> 00:31:00,654
and interviewed us...
727
00:31:00,723 --> 00:31:02,067
interviewed me.
728
00:31:02,136 --> 00:31:03,931
I wasn't afraid
to talk to the FBI,
729
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,240
because I knew I
wasn't a suspect.
730
00:31:06,309 --> 00:31:09,964
The FBI was particularly
interested in this gentleman
731
00:31:10,034 --> 00:31:11,378
in the back of the photo.
732
00:31:11,448 --> 00:31:13,448
They wanted to know
if we noticed anything,
733
00:31:13,517 --> 00:31:14,931
if we remembered
him being there,
734
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,067
if we noticed anything
unusual about him.
735
00:31:18,136 --> 00:31:19,067
We were oblivious.
736
00:31:19,136 --> 00:31:20,689
We did not remember him at all.
737
00:31:24,309 --> 00:31:26,009
- Do you feel that a
legitimate identification
738
00:31:26,034 --> 00:31:27,378
has been made in this case?
739
00:31:27,448 --> 00:31:30,240
That the man in that
photo is Lewis Richardson...
740
00:31:30,309 --> 00:31:31,448
whatever his name is?
741
00:31:31,517 --> 00:31:33,000
- Only could be.
742
00:31:33,067 --> 00:31:36,240
We have people that are
experts in making comparisons
743
00:31:36,309 --> 00:31:38,103
doing blowups and so forth.
744
00:31:38,172 --> 00:31:40,172
- If, in fact, that
is Mr. Richardson
745
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,862
in line behind Paula Prince,
that's tangible evidence.
746
00:31:42,931 --> 00:31:44,136
- That is.
747
00:31:44,205 --> 00:31:45,766
And it's such a time
as I could tell you
748
00:31:45,792 --> 00:31:48,619
and the people with the FBI,
who have been working on this
749
00:31:48,689 --> 00:31:51,034
with us, and the
task force members
750
00:31:51,103 --> 00:31:52,941
thought that it would be...
that would be tangible evidence.
751
00:31:52,964 --> 00:31:54,005
You're absolutely correct.
752
00:31:54,067 --> 00:31:55,344
And I think that might help
753
00:31:55,413 --> 00:31:57,240
complete the circle
circumstantially almost
754
00:31:57,309 --> 00:31:58,689
as much as a fingerprint.
755
00:31:58,758 --> 00:32:01,103
- And so the nationwide
hunt continues
756
00:32:01,172 --> 00:32:03,309
for the couple known
in Chicago as Robert
757
00:32:03,378 --> 00:32:04,619
and Nancy Richardson.
758
00:32:04,689 --> 00:32:06,895
- Except for a
suspect's photograph
759
00:32:06,964 --> 00:32:08,723
taped to a filing cabinet,
760
00:32:08,792 --> 00:32:10,723
the task force
headquarters looks exactly
761
00:32:10,792 --> 00:32:12,309
as it did three weeks ago.
762
00:32:12,378 --> 00:32:15,309
Agents comparing notes
and working the phones,
763
00:32:15,378 --> 00:32:18,034
and still no direct link
to the seven killings.
764
00:32:18,103 --> 00:32:21,103
Where does the
investigation stand now?
765
00:32:21,172 --> 00:32:23,103
Investigators continue
their surveillance
766
00:32:23,172 --> 00:32:25,413
of one man in connection
with the Tylenol case,
767
00:32:25,481 --> 00:32:28,723
Roger Arnold, but have charged
him with nothing in connection
768
00:32:28,792 --> 00:32:30,000
with the tragedy.
769
00:32:30,067 --> 00:32:32,000
And surveillance
was called off one
770
00:32:32,067 --> 00:32:34,103
relative of one of
the victims after he
771
00:32:34,172 --> 00:32:35,931
took and passed a lie test.
772
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,619
- My name is Roy Lane.
773
00:32:37,689 --> 00:32:40,275
I'm a special agent
with the Federal Bureau
774
00:32:40,344 --> 00:32:42,275
of Investigation, or the FBI.
775
00:32:42,344 --> 00:32:47,517
And I was one of the agents
assigned to the Tylenol
776
00:32:47,586 --> 00:32:49,275
murders in 1982.
777
00:32:49,344 --> 00:32:52,136
Roger Arnold was
a suspect that was
778
00:32:52,205 --> 00:32:55,067
originally developed by the
Chicago Police Department.
779
00:32:55,136 --> 00:32:57,895
And he came to their attention,
780
00:32:57,964 --> 00:33:00,448
because he told a bartender
781
00:33:00,517 --> 00:33:02,758
that he was
interested in chemicals.
782
00:33:02,826 --> 00:33:05,378
And the bartender
didn't like Roger Arnold,
783
00:33:05,448 --> 00:33:07,931
so he called the police and said
784
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,689
Roger Arnold was
potentially a subject
785
00:33:10,758 --> 00:33:12,344
of the Tylenol murders.
786
00:33:12,413 --> 00:33:16,654
Roger Arnold eventually
just went into the background
787
00:33:16,723 --> 00:33:17,931
as a suspect.
788
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,517
And the next thing
I heard about him,
789
00:33:21,586 --> 00:33:24,723
he was arrested for a homicide.
790
00:33:24,792 --> 00:33:27,931
- The jury found Roger Arnold
guilty of murdering a man
791
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,034
outside a Lincoln Avenue Bar.
792
00:33:30,103 --> 00:33:32,481
Prosecutors said he
had mistaken the victim
793
00:33:32,550 --> 00:33:34,136
for the North Side bar owner
794
00:33:34,205 --> 00:33:36,792
who gave Arnold's name to
police as a possible suspect
795
00:33:36,862 --> 00:33:38,275
in the Tylenol killings.
796
00:33:38,344 --> 00:33:40,895
The man Arnold
shot was 46-year-old
797
00:33:40,964 --> 00:33:44,517
John Stanisha, a computer
salesman and father of three.
798
00:33:44,586 --> 00:33:47,826
Prosecutors argued that Arnold
shot Stanisha after mistaking
799
00:33:47,895 --> 00:33:50,067
him for another
heavyset bearded man
800
00:33:50,136 --> 00:33:52,000
who testified in court today.
801
00:33:52,067 --> 00:33:53,826
When Arnold took
the witness stand,
802
00:33:53,895 --> 00:33:56,448
he said he bought a
.45 caliber handgun
803
00:33:56,517 --> 00:33:58,136
to protect himself.
804
00:33:58,205 --> 00:34:00,550
Shortly before the verdict
tonight, a clean-shaven Arnold
805
00:34:00,619 --> 00:34:03,550
said he became the victim of
the suspicion that surrounded
806
00:34:03,619 --> 00:34:05,448
him ever since he was questioned
807
00:34:05,517 --> 00:34:08,931
and released in the
October 1982 investigation.
808
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,516
- Could you elaborate
for us why you
809
00:34:10,585 --> 00:34:12,344
consider yourself a victim?
810
00:34:12,413 --> 00:34:15,827
- Because I am going to
end up one way or the other
811
00:34:15,896 --> 00:34:21,309
in prison because of this thing.
812
00:34:21,378 --> 00:34:25,447
I was not in my right state
of mind when this happened.
813
00:34:25,516 --> 00:34:27,516
I wouldn't have
a gun with me if I
814
00:34:27,585 --> 00:34:30,619
wasn't afraid that somebody
was going to get me.
815
00:34:30,688 --> 00:34:32,481
- Tonight's verdict
brings investigators
816
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:35,516
no closer to solving the
Tylenol cyanide killings.
817
00:34:35,585 --> 00:34:38,757
But for Roger Arnold, the
consequences are serious.
818
00:34:38,827 --> 00:34:40,585
The murder conviction
carries a penalty
819
00:34:40,655 --> 00:34:42,655
of up to 40 years in prison.
820
00:34:42,724 --> 00:34:45,688
Sentencing is scheduled
for Valentine's Day.
821
00:34:45,757 --> 00:34:48,965
Terry Anzur... Channel 2 News
at the Criminal Courts Building.
822
00:34:49,034 --> 00:34:51,206
- He shot an innocent person
coming out of this tavern
823
00:34:51,275 --> 00:34:54,275
thinking he was going
to square this case.
824
00:34:54,344 --> 00:34:58,068
- There's no evidence
linking Roger Arnold
825
00:34:58,137 --> 00:35:00,034
to the Tylenol poisonings.
826
00:35:00,103 --> 00:35:01,965
- What authorities
have at this point
827
00:35:02,034 --> 00:35:04,137
is a great deal of information,
828
00:35:04,206 --> 00:35:09,206
case reports, 26 volumes of
them, totaling 11,500 pages.
829
00:35:09,275 --> 00:35:13,068
Individuals checked... 16,702.
830
00:35:13,137 --> 00:35:16,655
Companies contacted... 10,246.
831
00:35:16,724 --> 00:35:17,965
License plates noted...
832
00:35:18,034 --> 00:35:19,550
777.
833
00:35:19,619 --> 00:35:23,034
Phone numbers listed... 8,201.
834
00:35:23,103 --> 00:35:24,862
In all, authorities have spent
835
00:35:24,931 --> 00:35:27,275
12,800 man hours.
836
00:35:27,344 --> 00:35:31,724
- I think the fact that
there wasn't a suspect...
837
00:35:31,793 --> 00:35:34,827
one person to point to so that
everyone could sleep at night
838
00:35:34,896 --> 00:35:36,896
and say, "See, they
got the bad guy"...
839
00:35:36,965 --> 00:35:38,137
no, that went on for years.
840
00:35:38,206 --> 00:35:39,275
That's true.
841
00:35:39,344 --> 00:35:41,034
- We had conducted
investigations
842
00:35:41,103 --> 00:35:44,068
in short or long form
of over 1,000 leads.
843
00:35:44,137 --> 00:35:45,068
- How many?
844
00:35:45,137 --> 00:35:46,965
- Over 1,000.
845
00:35:47,034 --> 00:35:49,619
Most of them didn't have a
lot going for them, but I'd say
846
00:35:49,688 --> 00:35:52,000
there were a good
100 in there that...
847
00:35:52,068 --> 00:35:54,619
that were serious opportunities.
848
00:35:54,688 --> 00:35:56,378
- Yet this morning
on our radios,
849
00:35:56,447 --> 00:35:58,793
we were hearing
the following report.
850
00:35:58,862 --> 00:36:01,931
Fahner said the federal,
state, and, local task force
851
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,965
investigating the
seven poisonings
852
00:36:04,034 --> 00:36:08,068
were closer than we have
ever been to ending the case.
853
00:36:08,137 --> 00:36:12,965
- I know at the time you
obviously truly believed
854
00:36:13,034 --> 00:36:15,447
that you guys were close.
855
00:36:15,516 --> 00:36:16,688
- I did, several times.
856
00:36:16,757 --> 00:36:18,655
- Several times.
857
00:36:18,724 --> 00:36:20,550
- It bothered me
a great deal then
858
00:36:20,619 --> 00:36:23,585
and a great deal now, because
innocent lives were taken.
859
00:36:23,655 --> 00:36:25,688
It bothered me,
because it took us
860
00:36:25,757 --> 00:36:28,827
so long to figure out what we
knew and what we didn't know.
861
00:36:28,896 --> 00:36:31,827
- I feel, always,
that it's not complete,
862
00:36:31,896 --> 00:36:34,172
and it's just really sloppy.
863
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:38,413
Something is fishy and weird.
864
00:36:38,481 --> 00:36:43,000
The more I think
about it, I think either...
865
00:36:43,068 --> 00:36:44,413
I have many things I think.
866
00:36:44,481 --> 00:36:45,793
I think it's either...
867
00:36:45,862 --> 00:36:49,724
it was, maybe, a terrorist
attack on America.
868
00:36:49,793 --> 00:36:54,378
Maybe someone paid
someone not to say anything
869
00:36:54,447 --> 00:36:56,068
and move on with the case...
870
00:36:56,137 --> 00:37:00,000
I mean, stop the case.
871
00:37:00,068 --> 00:37:02,103
Something's not right.
872
00:37:02,172 --> 00:37:04,516
It just doesn't make any sense.
873
00:37:04,585 --> 00:37:08,757
- Someone to be that evil
or do something like that
874
00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:10,378
is just horrendous.
875
00:37:10,447 --> 00:37:11,827
An evil person.
876
00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:14,068
A person that just
doesn't care about people,
877
00:37:14,137 --> 00:37:17,931
that has a life that
they're just sad,
878
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,724
and they don't know
what to do with their life.
879
00:37:21,793 --> 00:37:22,931
- He took everything,
880
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,827
my whole family,
881
00:37:24,896 --> 00:37:29,585
my memories, future memories
that we could have had,
882
00:37:29,655 --> 00:37:32,137
beautiful memories of...
883
00:37:33,481 --> 00:37:36,965
Maybe future cousins
884
00:37:37,034 --> 00:37:39,724
and beautiful moments we
could have shared as a family,
885
00:37:39,793 --> 00:37:44,931
laughter, and he took away
886
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,068
the happiness.
887
00:37:52,103 --> 00:37:55,447
- We have made the
unequivocal commitment
888
00:37:55,516 --> 00:38:00,550
to rebuild this business
under the Tylenol name.
889
00:38:00,619 --> 00:38:03,240
We are coming back.
890
00:38:03,309 --> 00:38:05,137
- You shouldn't be
selling any drug that you
891
00:38:05,206 --> 00:38:06,688
can tamper with, period.
892
00:38:06,757 --> 00:38:08,355
- Back then, you could
walk into a drugstore
893
00:38:08,378 --> 00:38:10,413
and open a pill bottle.
894
00:38:10,481 --> 00:38:13,275
You didn't have to open a seal.
895
00:38:13,344 --> 00:38:16,068
Pop.
896
00:38:16,137 --> 00:38:17,516
Now, what's that about?
897
00:38:17,585 --> 00:38:20,240
- I don't think they were
thinking about lives lost.
898
00:38:20,309 --> 00:38:22,172
The bottom line was profit.
899
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:25,481
- Fugitive James Lewis
says neither he, nor his wife,
900
00:38:25,550 --> 00:38:28,309
are responsible for the
seven cyanide murders.
901
00:38:28,378 --> 00:38:31,000
The envelope the note
came in had a New York City
902
00:38:31,068 --> 00:38:33,103
postmark, suggesting
the Lewis couple
903
00:38:33,172 --> 00:38:34,827
might still be in New York.
904
00:38:34,896 --> 00:38:36,137
- The rage I went through.
905
00:38:36,206 --> 00:38:38,034
I wanted five minutes
with whoever did it.
906
00:38:38,103 --> 00:38:40,344
- So who do you believe did it?
907
00:38:40,413 --> 00:38:42,550
- I've seen no
evidence to implicate
908
00:38:42,619 --> 00:38:44,103
anyone other than Mr. Lewis.
909
00:38:44,172 --> 00:38:46,000
- All signs pointed
to James Lewis.
910
00:38:46,068 --> 00:38:49,103
- Do you think Lewis did it?
911
00:38:49,172 --> 00:38:52,034
- I've never speculated
on who I believe did it.
912
00:38:52,103 --> 00:38:54,378
- Do you think you
know who did it?
913
00:38:54,447 --> 00:38:57,240
- Yes.
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