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Our journey just to call
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out Well you didn't follow the instruction we
did anybody should go as impulsive or tool
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It's the 16th of August 2012 outside the
London platinum mine America in South Africa
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a 112 striking miners are shot down by police
34 die like many other South Africans.
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The shooting shook me
to the core Events like
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this took me back to the massacres
of apartheid sharp filled
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1960 sweater 1976 killings like
these led South Africans to support
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Nelson Mandela and the struggle for
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freedom but today these miners are being
shot at by a new government to ensure that
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it's business as usual we could
see that lives were now being
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sacrificed for money and the young democracy
we had so much hope for was under threat
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This is not a day.
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Talk pushing play it is a day for us
to mourn together as a nation it is
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also a day to start rebuilding and
healing the zaps the only nice to
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advance a situation such as police members had
to employ force to protect themselves from
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the charging port Is
there time for time for
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the sin and death moment we'll
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CDN2 the Americana commission
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of inquiry has set for over a year South
Africans watch in a state of shock.
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Half the police being
honest in their account.
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No they have not the big question remains.
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Who sanctioned deobda to use
live ammunition against
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the strikers My name is
Tony inside in February.
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Clear for the following families.
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I mean no king.
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Among them into Formula I will remodel
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peddling Jackson who fight.
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Same root. Show kindness.
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They reach a sub paying for the ceiling the
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Parliament and the need for
us to add to this port
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it my whole life So
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you just say Bob bought a little law for
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this
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morning
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August 2012
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allegedly illegal governing
by rock drum operators.
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It six days before the massacre.
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The mining company London is filming
the miners as I gathered outside
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the mind alone means security guard
reports everything he sees group
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allegedly wants to march the
opposite devoting there's
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PQ management with regards to
salary and certain faculty
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to write things up and back up to
see if we can stop the grout also
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writing feedback from senior
management you have regards
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to All relate the crowd
in March the opposite.
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Or walrus top tried to stop the crowd.
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A crowd of rock jewelers meet a march to
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the Longman Management Office they
believe the official majority unions
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the National Union of Mineworkers
are in the pockets of
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management and so they've
decided to take matters into
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their own hands they are joined by workers
from a competing Union Scotland and England.
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A 4 thousand eclipsed magazine of sediment
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and warms and hazardous lacocca later
quadragesimo my leg Laozi Hamas plasma now
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lumens traits So bones are not
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using them I didn't Manila mental
pleased to be seated exhibit it does it
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will open that door number.com
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let's just do the opposite
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to spineless they treat The prices
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are low density and
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avalanche he says do you
know for I first declared.
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Level all the way
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to go
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They are combined by 15 meters supplements
such as these atoms era but since none doing
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what y la strike So Amanda my pen some Bernada
minute knowledge not for landa demo was
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I'll Joe Posner what Fulang
now now mooc how does
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play longer fight about Obama's wound
up and ask for lung in Galapagos
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They got for normal concretes although
I thought I would say that most of
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us do not modify that up 400 chain of
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command then I know when I find a plateau.
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But does metadata and of
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those
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products
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Thomas I didn't approve.
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But then then who Kovach though to
funds that worked at Apple and it was
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against him chin boy boy your town Favare
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and launching a boy now at
who's occupying data pathway
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newborn like on Monday egg and
everybody ends up buffoon
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moment here this is called the Ahmadiyya
and do the hunting boida lab was
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another 90 part and when
Yana and the petiole Jack
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app The average take-home
pay of rock drillers is
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5 thousand South African wrong the equivalent
of 500 Euros dollars this condemns
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them to poverty that he say
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mining companies like Longmen view
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higher wages as the biggest
threat to the continued health of
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the business Longmen is a British company
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which started drilling for platinum in
South Africa 30 years ago it employs
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28 thousand people exporting
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the world's most precious metal out
of the country And around the globe.
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The company has spent large sums of money
on a massive program of expansion.
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Leaving it financially vulnerable.
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The prospect of a long strike
was the last thing they wanted.
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We experienced a group of workers
who studied matching from
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the Warner Pop area to us
displays which we call
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LPD These are the people who defined
mining if they don't drill.
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There's no mining. So if they are
not that web it becomes obvious.
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They matched until the four-way
junction which is a profitability year
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And at that point obviously that's
when the security engaged them and at
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no point did this group of employees
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demonstrate they had anything to
present a couple of months previously
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London admit directly with
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that same struck committee to discuss the
grievances yet now they wouldn't talk to them
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why
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the
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story of the Americana massacre.
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Would be incomplete.
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Without a close look at the involvement of
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civil ram opposer I had watched him with
admiration He built the largest trade union
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the country had ever seen
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the National Union of
Mineworkers under serums
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leadership Nome Saw the miners
join the fight against apartheid.
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And I took my place marching
side-by-side behind their banner.
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It must be remembered that it was
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the mining industry and specifically
the Chamber of mine which pioneered
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the most oppressive features of
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apartheid South
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Africa
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Mine workers
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have always had to put up with harsh
living and working conditions.
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So Rama posa was determined to change this.
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Under his leadership workers were led into
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mass strikes and direct confrontation
with the white mine owners.
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He was for me a vital and
important person in the birth of
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the new South Africa there's no such thing
as a liberal bourgeois they're all the same.
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They use fascist levels to destroy workers
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lives He soon became
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a leading member of the African
National Congress and from
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this position joined the Black
economic elite ram opposed.
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Who once or South Africa's working class
as a force to bringing about change.
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Now found himself on the other side of
the table at the time as the massacre.
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He was a board member of long mainland.
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We've gone through our waves of
starts and we always have strikes.
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Because we have such a robust
democratic system that allows
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workers to express themselves and
people should never be alarmed.
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This is the South African
way And we need to accept
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that workers will voice
their dissatisfaction.
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Through withdrawing their labour.
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What we are against is that.
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Quite a number of those strikes
have tended to ten violent.
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That is one behavior pattern that
we need to get out of our system
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Ironically the National Union of
Mineworkers num the powerful union which
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saw Arama pose a one-slide was still
the majority Union inside their minds.
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But in the lead up to the long range
strike gnome head refuse to address
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the low wages of their members and
when London management talked to
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workers that they would only negotiate says
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the majority union the workers
decided to go back to nums office
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about three pairs on to workers strike
has marched down to the mem offers
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the people who are in the new
officers and there are probably
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about 30 Branch officials and shops years.
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They'd been advised by the
London security that the march
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was solids way and if they didn't want
to meet them arch And they should
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lock the building them and
somebody Go Home India has
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a deny or cinnabar soybeans Milan
man woman and man may you known
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as SI SAK Tyrion WAS needs Site
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umani informal Z two
perfectly informal Yemen
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is E for nasa gone masses Yale
cinnabar sybils below knee
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The president or the general secretary of
the local branch I forget which decided
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that he would hand her weapons to each of
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the 30 people who were there and they
handle their pingers and spears.
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But he also handed out at least one gun.
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The limbs in neutral veil
and IDNUM even me Ben un
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un now since today divisional masses
astray to condense jasso coin in
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and the sole goal it
wasn't says obviously that
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Philip Glass who's anoxia was
Yamasaki mass but especially even
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Laudato Si Amato opposite that Sierra Leone
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were standardized So Villa.
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They were shocked that from their
offices or the NUM and and in fact for
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a long time thereafter it was mocked denied
that to employees were shorted that stage
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kinematics it was ammonium Java parts and
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utility I am at ten and RBI limbo
molypermalloy stop nonsense.
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Into an answer verbally Roku
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narrow eikonal upper-income
port in ten years when
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the sabia band and I move gear hazamah.
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Awesome. Now I've got an amateur
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toggling the National Union of Mineworkers
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denies any of their members attack workers
and insist that they branch leadership.
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We're acting in self-defense.
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None would not encouraged
in is sort of that
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Patnam watch Understand if
it's people believed that they
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are under threat to their lives
and our office and outlet
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that did they we'll add this pop off the
moment disabled taiga standards have
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said that as an Ngram would
believe that those people
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in that circumstances found
themselves and we'll end
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with one condemn what they did
in many respects that was
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a complete turning point because
up until that point That beam.
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Very little violence I'm not
saying there wasn't any violence.
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People said was a bit of intimidation
I really don't know about
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it but no one was being killed.
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So my leg the leg Knowsalot spill
that Divina food in the side.
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Hit a grounding pill.
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So a planning Dawn.
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Is bad Georgia Linda and
pillars now palisade
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Tom silicone Masada and dab
it in jabayo and I got
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these giga gnomon mom
banned 11 to further draw.
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Every time the miners gather
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the Longmen security guard keeps a
keen eye on them After the shootings.
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Of two people allegedly from Korea area
such ICN is fairly comma this state
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no direct greatest
maturity as a reaction to
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numb shooting at their own members the
conflict grows Longmen rock tutors from
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the nearby carry shaft join the
strike in numbers they belong
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to the competing union the association
of construction and mine workers union.
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I'm 6'2
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I'm cuz leader
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Joseph more tundra like grammar posa
20 years before him is fighting
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the system and believes num has become far
too close to mine management and government.
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He soon becomes an important player
in the unfolding events at maricon
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What you've got is liberates
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the only thing that we'd better feedback
is to change it Administration which was
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run by the White cannot then
is our trend h. Now what did
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Moses Bono who just says really taught
I will almost seem values is given
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Run the 12th they decide that
they're going to go back to the
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amorphous is this time I think that there
are inferior and they take their own.
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Course of action and they all
stopped rarely by London.
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Security guards and not much is known of
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what happened on that day I
mean there is a suggestion that
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these guards who have to say or poorly
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paid ordinary black working class
people who were sent out to confront.
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On behalf all this multinational
firm of exploiters
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The the demonstration that's coming
to them but whatever happened
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to girls were killed and one of
them in particular was bound to
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a cinder
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Cyril ram
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oppose it was close to Nelson Mandela.
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We thought he was succeeded
Mandela presidency.
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After the massacre.
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I was hoping to have an honest discussion
about what really took place in America but
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he quickly made it clear
that he would speak only in
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January terms until appearing
before the Commission.
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We were the first country
to have a wave of strikes.
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Let's just get that clear.
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Many countries both middle-income countries
low income countries and high income
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countries have been through waves of
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strife And many of those strikes in some
countries have even toppled governments.
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You'd. It wasn't as if the
16th was a day are slated
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from context you have to look back
to the Monday before that Thursday.
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When a group of a 150 to 200 miners
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went from that copy to Korea
three mind with the herd.
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There were still some miners working
in they want to tell them to
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down tools Intimidation solidarity you can
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call it what you want
there were turned back
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by the security to the mind we
told them go back with that treat.
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There went back with that Truett
halfway back to that copy.
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They were met by a cordon of
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police and usually led
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by the Deputy Commissioner for
the Northwest general impending
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He says Is into Nr is paired to Azi yet
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doing my yeah yeah yeah pneumonia.
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I mean you guys are looses.
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Then allowed us right now how can
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I do that I don't like that and
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I'm not gonna do that
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But as important.
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Can you then begin to
understand the standpoint of
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those employees they say by
the way we have no issue with
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you as the police Now
that's very fundamental.
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Is like the one to remind
everybody including the police
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that in a democracy where cosmic
negotiate with the employers.
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The police should not be this shield between
employees rights and employers applications
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or one that's not right
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The very interesting part about it is when
the negotiations between Jeran timber.
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In some other way can lead us.
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Including funny nope.
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The so-called man in the clinic blanket.
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Members. Now when it is clear that the
employees have put their position.
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Look. Few oriented disarmament.
That's okay.
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But you need to as caught us
for a year to the mountain
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And Chandra and pamby
reaches a stage where it
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says Now let me get to state i you
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saying if we escort to to the mountain
when you get there you'll end
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over the weapons to us and they
say yes and at that point he gets
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a telephone cord but he said in
effect when one looks at that clip.
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These attitude isn't radical before and
after that phone call Hi I'm dose.
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We afford now in conto we are again
Diane demand myrtle that Tony in
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Canto Yeah
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I think I think
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they go into their soul and
they just get up and go
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And again to either credit.
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At that point gentle
impairment doesn't say should
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this baggers here allows them pay much
in the simply provide a quarter note
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This group of miners or walking
slowly and deliberately.
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From the video footage you see that
don't seem to pose any threat.
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Suddenly you see tear gas being fired
Berlin wireless I'm shots fired.
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They get ignored that just keep
going and there's a line of police
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jogging alongside them on the one side
this armored vehicles keeps going.
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Another body of shots and
tear gas Cricket break.
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So this is a PBS.
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Learning to run less than the
agreement from what we see
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the peoples that are running around
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after the stamp lemmings here had been
thrown in exploded it's only then
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that people start running around
connectedness and none of the commanders.
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At admit to having given
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instruction in fact somebody who
told us alleged that you are given
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the instruction and you are
quite emphatic that was not
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true but none of the commanders gave
the order Coons instructions to
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the information that you have
So I don't think he's really
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puzzling and in that chaos three minus are
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killed one of whom seems to have been
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stabbed to death and it's unclear who
caused their death in what circumstances.
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Also two cops get quota and get killed
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To strike us were not killed at the
scene to strikers were killed.
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Perhaps 300 meters another
800 meters from that scene.
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My interpretation is that these
two strikers were fleeing
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and running away from the scene and
were pursued by police officers.
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One in particular I believe
that when he was perhaps
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800 meters away from the scene
and was running through a river
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and up the bank on the other
side I believe he was
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targeted by a police
officer and was shot and
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I described that as being an execution
people took cell phone pictures of
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the The Police and the circulated
through all police circles.
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Every single province got these
police to policemen had been killed.
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Now to be realistic we know that cops have
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a kind of iron clad drill you
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take us out we're going to take you out you
didn't get away with killing policemen.
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That's police forces
across the world actually
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It's two days before the massacre.
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Already a total of nine
people have been killed with
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the latest and num official
being marked by a cow's skull.
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The sign of a traitor conflict
between the strikers and gnome goes
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from bad to worse it what it does
more as to what is the motif.
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Because no organization worth
its salt can embark on on on
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on on this barbaric way of raising
issues And we believe that the partners
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know that NUM will never be involved in
this kind of barbaric way of dealing with
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users non-man begins its
campaign of pinning
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responsibility for the violence
on the striking miners.
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We didn't.
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Not anticipate this type of
violence and I don't think
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any organization in this country could have
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anticipated this type of violence
because it's not normal.
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So that's why we looking and searching
and using the police particularly the
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crime intelligence to understand
the root cause of the situation
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Running casseroles joined the fight
against apartheid in the 19 sixties.
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Following this short film massacre.
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He sat on the National Executive
Committee of the ANC for 20 years
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and was considered by the white minority regime
as one of their most dangerous opponents.
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Why the use Police force
onto the teeth against
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2-3 thousand miners who were not
occupying mining property or territory.
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Were not occupying any
strategic point we're not
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blocking the national
highway or any minor road.
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They were seated at a distance from
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any any key point to I please
visibility and presence law remained.
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Until the situation is completely
stable and currently we are seeing.
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Mind work as part of our
phased approach In terms
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of discussing and negotiating with
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the protesters and that's the process
that you're busy with after statuary.
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I'm not at all sure why they brought
in a hostage negotiator to try and
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negotiate with 3 thousand
strike as it does seem Bizarre.
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Particularly as the strike is who always
said We want to negotiate but we want to
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negotiate with management kinda.
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Yeah Communist gardener but
don't tell them please.
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Any weapons weapons.
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It's not for us and nothing
would happen to them they
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National Police Commissioner ported
Longman to produce photographs
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of the demonstrators she
then ordered London to
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identify the ring leaders
I need to indicate that
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a management styles and
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also continue to assist me to
identify them from their fortunes.
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But what is clear is not the person
that they're would've identified.
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Because he was the main
negotiator is Mr. loci.
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The man in the green blanket.
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What we know about Muslim Inaki is that
he has 14 bullet holes in him he is dead
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Then I will stop at the stop stopping for
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leaders is asking is asking can you
turn the motor off so we can talk.
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Related to weight cannot to
be heard over the noise of
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the running engine strike
lead a man boast climbs onto
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the armored vehicle to talk to
the police hostage negotiation.
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Thank him. Thank him
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quite a lot And I'm going to
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talk about what happened at
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the same time and I went I went
up and going and minus does not
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produce having studied
whether this particular
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result But Longmen continued to
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refuse to meet the strikers what
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happened next was only discovered
a year into the commission.
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When the police were ordered to
hand over files that they had
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hidden it is a transcript of a conversation
that took place two days before the massacre.
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Between an executive of Longmen and the
provincial Commissioner of Police.
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It reveals the state and Longmen putting their
heads together on how to break the strike.
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Before it spread to other minds we need to act
such that we kill this thing immediately.
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Yes Tomorrow we have to move in if
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today we do not find cooperation
in these people we need to
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move in such that we can
it so I agree with you
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Commissioner if it can arrest these
people because the longer it goes.
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It is giving all the other
opportunities to comment and seize
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the opportunity and then it
gets out of control that is
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it so I think yes that tomorrow be
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the D-Day where we issue the ultimatum
and say If you do not show up for work.
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Sorry that is it
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You may go to
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this other node along
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this robot
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Alright
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it
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Is eight minutes after eight
would say good morning
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to you Welcome to the forum at
H-E-R-M-S AFM sell off we want to
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start with the National Union of
Mineworkers president who's here
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with me in studio since any Zaghouan
IV Good morning to you say I think if
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we were at time one and column
enough tutorial studios we
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are joined today by Mr.
Bernard mucuna he is
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executive vice president that London is
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democratic Good morning to you Good monitor
you also I'm joined here in the studio.
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By Joseph my tune joy he is
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the president of unquote if a good
monitor units to match withdrew.
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Their machine to to cada Ada Stevia
guys came out of the offices of
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NUM fiat adult tickets There was no
firing at any point due on Friday.
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This feather confirms my view that
unquote behind them much the fact that
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they one way of achieving that is if the
leaders of the two polygons the unions.
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Come together go there
publicly together and say okay
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for now let's go back to
work we early on is that
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our outside ready to take us there ever
too difficult unless I cyclical times
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I'm thankful any Muslim corner yes
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Kalanick our position as
management is as follows we agree.
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People must be designed.
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We went to meet the structures of the unions
to discuss any grievance or consent in
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the most civilized manner
Without pandas and without
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cars we can do it now we can
do it as soon as possible.
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Ready let's go then let's hope that's
bulges at Montana and agreement.
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During a radio interview the leaders of
the trade unions agree on air to address
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the miners at the mountain
London's Barnard mucuna remains
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silent about whether he will join
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them on the drive towards Americana
afforded reached out and had been there
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before afforded reached
it because there are
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all these armored vehicles police
armored vehicles and private
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security vehicles with fully
addressed tactical guys
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in uniforms had never seen military gear.
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No policing getters all
automatic Metagraph wills are
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fives sixes and I stopped the
thing had reached the kind of
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front-line or the police but they're
all eating and having a p and
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you know the parsing time so I kept
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going and eventually got to
the right spot and it was
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clear that this thing was
going to be a huge conflict
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Minus shutdown answer on positive six.
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One person who commanded the respect of
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all parties and he might have been
able to resolve the conflict was so
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Ram opposer because the
former mine worker leader
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is now one of the most
influential politicians inside
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the ruling party Did
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it ever cross your mind to go to the
mountain to speak to the workers.
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I prefer not to answer that one because
if I ever got to give evidence.
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Have to deal with things like that email
communication was uncovered at the commission.
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Sharing Silvano posa energetically lobbying
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government ministers to increase police
presence and pressing for action to be
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taken against the minus chairperson will
have the now procession Emails that
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were being exchanged between the mind
management the government minister
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of minerals and energy which talk about
discussions with the Minister of police.
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At the center of which is
a gentleman called Rama
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posa Saran oppose or writes
about discussions he had with
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the Minister of mining
citizenship Bangor she
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agrees that what we are going through is
not a labor dispute but a criminal act.
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She's going into a cabinet and we'll
brief the President as well and
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get the Minister of police not Tim
tetra to act in a more pointed way
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Let's just keep the pressure on them to act
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correctly by interrupting you but what
is the date of that email which is
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the 15th of August 258 exactly 24
hours before the people were moved
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down then that that mountain stellar I'm a
parser advised that what was taking place.
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Uh plainly I'm quoting now task that link
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criminal and must be characterised as
such in line with this characterization.
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There needs to be concomitant
action to address
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the situation That at the heart of
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this was the toxic collision
between the S-A-P-S and London.
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At the direct level at a
much broader level it can
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be called a collusion between
the state and capital.
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Black people who get into
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come white owned companies through the
black economic empowerment process
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then get into a system one
which is very reluctant to
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change and to which they don't own
completely and which they don't control.
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So Best what they do or why
do we do is to be advocates
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After the radio broadcast
Joseph Martin's where
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the leader of Ankur arrives at the mountain
with the num leadership in an attempt
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to persuade their workers
to return to work on
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the basis of a commitment made on
air by Longmen management that they
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were now willing to talk Joseph and
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Tanjore told me that uh he confidently
471
00:49:15,020 --> 00:49:18,429
expected that when he arrived that there
would be a meeting between himself.
472
00:49:18,430 --> 00:49:19,758
This does Corner.
473
00:49:19,759 --> 00:49:21,454
And the London management.
474
00:49:21,455 --> 00:49:26,898
Instead what he found was the general mere
pamby he asked would either tritium in
475
00:49:26,899 --> 00:49:32,629
leaders go up to the mountain to speak to
the strikers and say leave your arms there.
476
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:35,669
Leave the mountain just leave
477
00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:42,319
A small delegation from num went first
and they went and armored truck and
478
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,048
the armored truck approached the mountain
479
00:49:45,049 --> 00:49:49,219
and the strikers were told that
inside the truck was the president of
480
00:49:49,220 --> 00:49:52,998
the National Union of Mineworkers
and that he wasn't getting out of
481
00:49:52,999 --> 00:49:57,918
the truck it was clear from the reception.
482
00:49:57,919 --> 00:50:01,469
They simply didn't want they
did not want them there.
483
00:50:09,490 --> 00:50:12,798
Well Joseph had a much better reception.
484
00:50:12,799 --> 00:50:15,498
Again he was not allowed by
the police to get out of
485
00:50:15,499 --> 00:50:22,458
the truck And then it wasn't
just in front of them being
486
00:50:22,459 --> 00:50:26,029
spent their insight to come up with other
487
00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:30,448
well why don't you simply say you
can come to a data point could just
488
00:50:30,449 --> 00:50:38,449
walk where we just go and talk to
girls preseason workbook you will
489
00:50:40,415 --> 00:50:46,519
finish the term Adam climate
and our plan is to pull
490
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:54,150
back there
491
00:50:58,810 --> 00:51:03,500
although I was dead Yeah
492
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,778
he made headway on the
strikers came to him and said
493
00:51:17,779 --> 00:51:21,364
Look it's late in the
day it's getting dark.
494
00:51:21,365 --> 00:51:25,894
What we'd like you to do is to come
back at nine o'clock in the morning.
495
00:51:25,895 --> 00:51:27,633
But more significantly.
496
00:51:27,634 --> 00:51:32,718
He was telling them that if they
were to leave the mountain.
497
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,979
Then management would address their grievances
in other words at least speak to them
498
00:51:58,650 --> 00:52:02,769
So he went back and he reported
that Earth to the police and to
499
00:52:02,770 --> 00:52:08,499
the London management to the factor
the Peter Joseph tungiasis is other
500
00:52:08,500 --> 00:52:12,519
we're really optimistic I mean general
my-append Bei He said in fact saluted
501
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:18,294
him and said well done and one
of the other Longman managers.
502
00:52:18,295 --> 00:52:22,988
Said yes. Congratulations maybe we
can do that and so there was a sort
503
00:52:22,989 --> 00:52:29,100
of chunk that was a light there
Someone that could be developed
504
00:53:00,730 --> 00:53:06,109
to remember that we said our intention is
505
00:53:06,110 --> 00:53:11,329
to the people And are also our
intention is to make sure that
506
00:53:11,330 --> 00:53:15,619
the people that they leave that
illegal gathering area where they
507
00:53:15,620 --> 00:53:20,598
are and that is what we will do today and I
508
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:24,018
said to you we wish that we will do
509
00:53:24,019 --> 00:53:30,768
that still amicable Meaning
we will ask them to leave.
510
00:53:30,769 --> 00:53:36,604
But then I don't want to explain
to you if they don't wet.
511
00:53:36,605 --> 00:53:44,605
What I told you is today we
n-d this mid what we have
512
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:50,539
statements from the National Commission
and the provincial Commissioner which
513
00:53:50,540 --> 00:53:55,023
make clear that the night before
514
00:53:55,024 --> 00:53:57,949
the provincial Commissioner had informed
515
00:53:57,950 --> 00:54:02,928
the National Commissioner that accepts could
not persuade the strikers to lay down
516
00:54:02,929 --> 00:54:06,918
their weapons and leave the copy by
negotiations she would issue an instruction for
517
00:54:06,919 --> 00:54:11,299
the strikers to be dispersed
After deliberations.
518
00:54:11,300 --> 00:54:16,564
The meeting endorsed the proposal to disarm
the protesting masses and further indicated
519
00:54:16,565 --> 00:54:19,368
that additional resources
must be made available upon
520
00:54:19,369 --> 00:54:23,429
needs identification by the
provincial commissioner Northwest
521
00:54:49,690 --> 00:54:57,690
The most foreboding indication
of the intentions of those who
522
00:54:57,709 --> 00:55:04,983
placed an order for for short
events vans from the morgue.
523
00:55:04,984 --> 00:55:07,999
What else are you anticipate
it says Statement of
524
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,329
anticipation of what is good
to have them can we not
525
00:55:11,330 --> 00:55:14,209
please move on to the morning of 16 August
526
00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:21,169
2012 we then requested one of the
security to call Mr. quality
527
00:55:21,170 --> 00:55:25,623
and to advise him that we have arrived as
528
00:55:25,624 --> 00:55:32,118
we were inside the office he said
it doesn't have good news for us
529
00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:38,779
He was referring to the commitment made
by the management that once there were
530
00:55:38,780 --> 00:55:45,558
caused renounced vow lens live arms
and return back to work peacefully.
531
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:51,060
Their management we will
engage to their grievances.
532
00:56:02,260 --> 00:56:06,619
We now know that this was a joint
operation between London and
533
00:56:06,620 --> 00:56:10,188
the police that lawn moon was
completely integrated into
534
00:56:10,189 --> 00:56:13,998
the police strategy and the
system the police strategy It
535
00:56:13,999 --> 00:56:18,978
provided a senior executive to
be part of the police team they
536
00:56:18,979 --> 00:56:23,028
briefed the police officers and
senior generals at least once every
537
00:56:23,029 --> 00:56:30,303
day they provided helicopters and went out
on surveillance expeditions with the police.
538
00:56:30,304 --> 00:56:35,269
They provided detention facilities
and at the very end of the day
539
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:37,399
after all the killings
were done they provided
540
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,559
the London game farm for
the people who failed.
541
00:56:48,670 --> 00:56:54,109
Are we to believe that
even Major General Pierre
542
00:56:54,110 --> 00:57:00,184
Ha Hidden. py air that
this with her principal.
543
00:57:00,185 --> 00:57:06,603
The Minister of police deed.
544
00:57:06,604 --> 00:57:13,878
You make a telephone call to the minister
reporting to him that Keiling's that
545
00:57:13,879 --> 00:57:16,429
had taken place at Marika on
546
00:57:16,430 --> 00:57:21,813
the 30th of August 2012 Do you
remember me asking you that question.
547
00:57:21,814 --> 00:57:26,269
You've asked me a lot of questions
it could have been one of those is
548
00:57:26,270 --> 00:57:29,988
general this is a simple
question are you suggesting
549
00:57:29,989 --> 00:57:37,989
that you do not remember for effect you do
not remember me asking you that question I
550
00:57:39,365 --> 00:57:43,489
have had a number of questions from
you and that could have been one of
551
00:57:43,490 --> 00:57:50,209
those canes on such a large scale
552
00:57:50,210 --> 00:57:55,053
would that have been a matter
of concern to your minister.
553
00:57:55,054 --> 00:58:01,413
I said. Yes. If it was or would have been.
554
00:58:01,414 --> 00:58:04,008
What if anything.
555
00:58:04,009 --> 00:58:12,009
Did the minister Do I have already
given my response to this one so.
556
00:58:12,490 --> 00:58:16,878
Nearly the current leader
in Bendigo hub He gives us.
557
00:58:16,879 --> 00:58:21,799
Leadership in that space and
support I have failed maybe
558
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,659
to answer in a minute that is appreciated.
559
00:58:26,660 --> 00:58:34,660
Maybe I'm short of answering
your question 16 hexane must
560
00:58:35,509 --> 00:58:39,858
figure as he was fingers
Guan list then as long as
561
00:58:39,859 --> 00:58:44,733
the heap was a van is a drag
O'bannons argue for a while.
562
00:58:44,734 --> 00:58:48,993
Figure Emma battle going apply
they tumbled out by MR2 shock.
563
00:58:48,994 --> 00:58:52,623
Intellectual abomasum but
I swear footie meningo
564
00:58:52,624 --> 00:58:58,039
by Mate morning it had become clear to
the miners that London had gone back
565
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,538
on their commitment to talk to
566
00:58:59,539 --> 00:59:02,430
them And
567
00:59:02,620 --> 00:59:10,620
I still
568
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:41,280
don't know about so we'll find out
569
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:47,088
Well
570
00:59:47,089 --> 00:59:48,269
my
571
00:59:59,380 --> 01:00:00,978
God God
572
01:00:00,979 --> 01:00:08,979
all the way to my dog
573
01:00:28,930 --> 01:00:33,044
Furthermore postdocs
example of another add-on.
574
01:00:33,045 --> 01:00:37,769
Itself rather
575
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:50,929
easily
576
01:01:13,420 --> 01:01:15,019
The question I
577
01:01:15,020 --> 01:01:21,678
ask you is this a decision that you say
you took to implement states three.
578
01:01:21,679 --> 01:01:29,463
Was that decision taken because there
had been an escalation. Was it taken.
579
01:01:29,464 --> 01:01:32,238
Even though there hadn't been an
escalation that's the question I
580
01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:35,599
wouldn't want to episode.
581
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:40,759
I'll put a little paragraph
degree escalation but what
582
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:45,829
I find so answer is the decision to
is to implement Stage three which
583
01:01:45,830 --> 01:01:50,298
you say you took and conveyed to
the provincial commission that was
584
01:01:50,299 --> 01:01:57,549
Rough because of explanation but the fact that
even though they wasn't his professional.
585
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:20,160
Might already know
586
01:02:31,540 --> 01:02:37,019
So this is.
587
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:56,400
Yeah free about it should be that
they're not in our free path
588
01:03:05,950 --> 01:03:12,699
there may have been I thought up yeah
589
01:03:18,330 --> 01:03:26,330
But what do I do and I
590
01:03:27,110 --> 01:03:32,254
said well I don't want to
591
01:03:32,255 --> 01:03:38,988
but there are all these are given to talk.
592
01:03:38,989 --> 01:03:45,630
Yet about the planet an icon
set then you have F omega j.
593
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,714
Therefore Madonna.
594
01:03:49,715 --> 01:03:57,149
Isn't good has no memory
of my banana coconut
595
01:04:16,060 --> 01:04:21,634
I still remember vividly
the face of those workers.
596
01:04:21,635 --> 01:04:28,924
I still remember my weights I said
when colon m can be of ATV asked me.
597
01:04:28,925 --> 01:04:33,468
What now I said all this is in courts
598
01:04:33,469 --> 01:04:39,149
ends and mean mortal men those
are my waste. More time
599
01:04:56,380 --> 01:05:00,663
Immediately following Joseph who
turned to his passionate plea.
600
01:05:00,664 --> 01:05:05,969
Over a thousand miners decided to leave
the mountain and make their way home
601
01:05:29,410 --> 01:05:32,988
We have been in negotiations
with his gathering for
602
01:05:32,989 --> 01:05:38,974
quite a few days and part of that was that
simple can reach an epic Amoco solution
603
01:05:38,975 --> 01:05:41,598
for them to drop the weapons and
604
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:46,474
disperse unfortunately it doesn't
seem as if negotiations have proven
605
01:05:46,475 --> 01:05:49,548
successful and these are
complete service is going to
606
01:05:49,549 --> 01:05:52,788
have to go over to the tactical
phase to ensure that we
607
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:59,479
take weapons away from from those gathered
yet for that I need or the media.
608
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:07,480
Beyond our vehicles There's still
a culture is why would go up by
609
01:06:09,169 --> 01:06:13,009
a pair their pillars and
the Hebei piously yeah see
610
01:06:13,010 --> 01:06:18,348
an allele that is y stem
multiple times untidy upon
611
01:06:18,349 --> 01:06:26,349
us by law siRNA complex machine
the TTL older mumbo jumbo shoe
612
01:06:28,159 --> 01:06:36,159
ouch or whatever it is well known as the
arm the Glenda copy me Muslim gain Glenda
613
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:46,478
or dancing or my leg or Lama dot Since we
614
01:06:46,479 --> 01:06:52,538
didn't go Maya two daughters
to non-natural long
615
01:06:52,539 --> 01:07:00,539
bound by law to
616
01:07:02,209 --> 01:07:03,650
perform
617
01:07:08,290 --> 01:07:13,239
these will oppose
618
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,709
tell us up hot tub is first
619
01:07:17,710 --> 01:07:25,710
of all our customers
620
01:07:51,220 --> 01:07:52,608
On
621
01:07:52,609 --> 01:07:53,939
The other
622
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:08,549
side
623
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:17,760
Just like
624
01:08:33,370 --> 01:08:35,559
that
625
01:09:27,260 --> 01:09:28,598
I
626
01:09:28,599 --> 01:09:30,070
Agree
627
01:09:51,460 --> 01:09:53,760
Right
628
01:10:41,260 --> 01:10:47,448
Who independently Jong helium neon
629
01:10:47,449 --> 01:10:53,799
in Canada falling enzyme land filling
630
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,689
Bomba
631
01:11:38,740 --> 01:11:42,089
And eventually
632
01:12:02,670 --> 01:12:06,619
if I think of
633
01:12:06,620 --> 01:12:14,620
it as
634
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,188
15 to 20 minutes
635
01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:23,793
after the initial shooting All
the commanders should have sit.
636
01:12:23,794 --> 01:12:28,564
What you've shot How many people stand up
637
01:12:28,565 --> 01:12:35,520
stand up they went and carried on a
hunting down people for 20 minutes
638
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:11,538
When I saw what the commission
and the police call s2.
639
01:13:11,539 --> 01:13:17,178
Which is the small copy is several 100 meters
away from the stuff we saw on television.
640
01:13:17,179 --> 01:13:21,420
It is clear that this was nothing
like what had happened at the fussy
641
01:14:01,030 --> 01:14:08,628
In Norway and say chi of a wild
west isobar isobar telecom
642
01:14:08,629 --> 01:14:13,728
but we know
643
01:14:13,729 --> 01:14:17,599
from the examination of
the scene pi friends and
644
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,903
officers that for example
they found cartridges.
645
01:14:21,904 --> 01:14:24,619
On tops of the rocks we
knew that they found
646
01:14:24,620 --> 01:14:28,099
dead bodies at the bottom of the
rocks yeah Would conclude there is
647
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:31,308
a strong possibility that officers stood
648
01:14:31,309 --> 01:14:34,638
and short people who were at the bottom
of the rock I mean you're talking
649
01:14:34,639 --> 01:14:36,349
you at distance of
650
01:14:36,350 --> 01:14:40,278
perhaps only 234 meters the police seem to
651
01:14:40,279 --> 01:14:44,239
stick to this self-defense story they kept
repeating the same thing even though it's
652
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,579
blindingly obvious and yet dozens of
653
01:14:46,580 --> 01:14:49,699
witnesses saying talking about
people trying to surrender being
654
01:14:49,700 --> 01:14:53,659
killed repeatedly shocked as
they were trying to Syria and
655
01:14:53,660 --> 01:14:59,099
much as once coming up to three times
with their hands shot repeatedly
656
01:15:31,900 --> 01:15:39,448
I went in and had killed they
just accumulate and otherwise.
657
01:15:39,449 --> 01:15:47,449
None. Okay all right
658
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,070
So yeah
659
01:15:54,280 --> 01:16:02,280
yeah yeah
660
01:16:10,710 --> 01:16:18,710
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah that's where gamma
661
01:16:43,050 --> 01:16:51,050
Vertical you can book it
doesn't really look good
662
01:16:52,960 --> 01:17:00,960
in some sense to put him
663
01:17:03,450 --> 01:17:08,109
to put people who
664
01:17:08,110 --> 01:17:16,110
need that So if whatever
665
01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:34,140
whatever. As likely
666
01:17:40,370 --> 01:17:47,310
to far this.
667
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,080
Someone else
668
01:18:02,260 --> 01:18:07,458
Let us take note of the fact
669
01:18:07,459 --> 01:18:15,139
that whatever happened you represent
the best opera responsible policing.
670
01:18:15,140 --> 01:18:18,918
You did what you did because you are being
671
01:18:18,919 --> 01:18:25,009
responsible you are making sure
that you continue to live your
672
01:18:25,010 --> 01:18:33,010
own way of ensuring that South
Africans are safe and that you are
673
01:18:34,610 --> 01:18:38,239
a citizen of this country and safety stats
674
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:45,813
weekly But who looked out for the
safety of our lowly paid miners.
675
01:18:45,814 --> 01:18:52,008
Surely it should have been those who work
so tirelessly for our struggle for freedom.
676
01:18:52,009 --> 01:18:59,029
Those you now hold the reins of
political power it is the time to
677
01:18:59,030 --> 01:19:02,598
point finger in the first place to point
678
01:19:02,599 --> 01:19:06,693
fingers at those whose
fingers pulled the trigger.
679
01:19:06,694 --> 01:19:10,624
But the foot soldiers.
680
01:19:10,625 --> 01:19:14,688
What about those who pulled the strings.
681
01:19:14,689 --> 01:19:19,759
Who gave the orders and
who are they tell me who
682
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:24,858
are the Minister of police The President.
683
01:19:24,859 --> 01:19:28,759
The. He's got the answer this is
684
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:32,838
what we want to see from a commission
and the President and the Ministers
685
01:19:32,839 --> 01:19:36,259
in a security cluster I've
been there and know how it
686
01:19:36,260 --> 01:19:41,299
works and if the police carried
out without that kind of
687
01:19:41,300 --> 01:19:45,949
instruction then what are they guilty of in
688
01:19:45,950 --> 01:19:51,198
terms of the way they dealt with
that situation you see heads need to
689
01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:54,888
role at a very high level
and we don't want to
690
01:19:54,889 --> 01:20:00,799
see a commission of inquiry
that white washes things that
691
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:07,909
keeps the lid on In the end we'll apportion
blame to the strike is to the Union
692
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:12,349
splits to the mine owners and so on what
693
01:20:12,350 --> 01:20:17,999
about the politicians who
are the ones responsible
694
01:20:47,390 --> 01:20:51,369
And you've got.
695
01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:02,210
You've got to
696
01:21:23,740 --> 01:21:24,909
do
697
01:21:24,910 --> 01:21:28,859
That Suppose
698
01:21:37,900 --> 01:21:40,388
I have a lambda must hold.
699
01:21:40,389 --> 01:21:48,389
Which you had cloud and I can reduce
the amount of oil is Apple data model
700
01:21:52,990 --> 01:22:00,990
and map I would have a map
of the baton as it had done
701
01:22:03,409 --> 01:22:05,568
an example
702
01:22:05,569 --> 01:22:13,569
lambda Marco But
703
01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:32,700
what I would
704
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,790
assume
705
01:22:55,270 --> 01:22:57,629
She's
706
01:23:21,370 --> 01:23:27,510
a fail-stop error bound South Africa.
707
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:37,080
Get the plateau days up 75 It told us about
708
01:23:49,900 --> 01:23:57,900
how the central change out
709
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:11,880
the finest de comprendre et
710
01:24:14,749 --> 01:24:17,389
cetera I
711
01:24:23,450 --> 01:24:31,450
will explain
712
01:24:33,790 --> 01:24:40,539
exactly how to answer
713
01:24:56,540 --> 01:24:59,829
that way To
714
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:27,809
my shock
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