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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,591 --> 00:00:14,171 They're acting like they're still alive. 2 00:00:15,697 --> 00:00:18,383 Whatever's going on here really needs to stop. 3 00:00:18,385 --> 00:00:20,426 It was a devil or a monster. 4 00:00:21,565 --> 00:00:22,741 "I have seen a ghost." 5 00:00:22,743 --> 00:00:23,979 There's no question in my mind 6 00:00:23,981 --> 00:00:25,054 that there's something evil there. 7 00:00:25,056 --> 00:00:26,166 The dead don't rest here. 8 00:00:27,915 --> 00:00:30,490 His body was completely mutilated and half-eaten. 9 00:00:32,570 --> 00:00:35,782 I don't know how they're not killing each other. 10 00:00:36,518 --> 00:00:38,329 "You're mine. You can't escape." 11 00:00:38,331 --> 00:00:41,541 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:41,543 --> 00:00:43,619 [Crying] What's happening? 13 00:00:43,621 --> 00:00:44,724 I see dead people. 14 00:00:44,726 --> 00:00:47,171 It seems like a devil. 15 00:00:47,173 --> 00:00:49,819 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:49,821 --> 00:00:50,820 He's pissed off. 17 00:00:50,822 --> 00:00:51,990 And they speak to me. 18 00:00:51,992 --> 00:00:54,134 I felt real fear. 19 00:00:54,136 --> 00:00:57,116 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:57,118 --> 00:00:59,136 I think she's being murdered. 21 00:00:59,138 --> 00:01:00,755 I rely on my partner. 22 00:01:00,757 --> 00:01:02,025 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:01:02,027 --> 00:01:04,029 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:01:04,031 --> 00:01:06,136 Serial killer pops in my head. 25 00:01:06,138 --> 00:01:09,355 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:09,357 --> 00:01:10,557 Nobody believes me. 27 00:01:10,559 --> 00:01:12,023 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:12,025 --> 00:01:14,292 - Do you think there's still bodies there? - I do. 29 00:01:14,294 --> 00:01:16,028 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:16,030 --> 00:01:18,069 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:18,071 --> 00:01:19,275 Until the very end. 32 00:01:19,277 --> 00:01:21,047 You got problems. I got news for you. 33 00:01:21,049 --> 00:01:23,254 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:23,256 --> 00:01:25,331 This is our house... whether they like it or not. 35 00:01:25,333 --> 00:01:27,039 Or time to get out. 36 00:01:27,041 --> 00:01:29,710 This is their house, the house of the dead. 37 00:01:29,734 --> 00:01:35,091 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 38 00:01:43,079 --> 00:01:45,118 I'm in Warsaw, Indiana. 39 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,254 It's about 40 miles west of Fort Wayne. 40 00:01:48,223 --> 00:01:51,832 I got a call from a guy who runs a hotel in town. 41 00:01:51,834 --> 00:01:54,735 Now, he says he was a lifelong skeptic 42 00:01:54,737 --> 00:01:57,145 until he bought the place about eight years ago. 43 00:02:01,221 --> 00:02:05,569 He says activity's so bad, he's losing employees and customers. 44 00:02:05,571 --> 00:02:07,772 It's his dream business, 45 00:02:07,774 --> 00:02:09,774 but he says if me and Amy can't help him out, 46 00:02:09,776 --> 00:02:11,981 he might have to shut the place down. 47 00:02:20,995 --> 00:02:22,494 MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, 48 00:02:22,496 --> 00:02:25,366 I look for anything that might influence her findings. 49 00:02:25,368 --> 00:02:28,237 This hotel has a lot of artwork and historic photos 50 00:02:28,239 --> 00:02:30,339 that have to be covered or removed. 51 00:02:30,341 --> 00:02:31,608 When I'm finished, 52 00:02:31,610 --> 00:02:34,747 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 53 00:02:45,098 --> 00:02:48,573 AMY: There's a lot of dead people here. 54 00:02:50,209 --> 00:02:55,853 They're acting like they're still alive. 55 00:02:55,855 --> 00:02:59,625 I'm talking, like, about 50 people here. 56 00:02:59,627 --> 00:03:02,433 Do you know if these dead come inside at all? 57 00:03:02,435 --> 00:03:03,702 Yes, they do. 58 00:03:03,704 --> 00:03:08,310 They, um... they can come and go as they please. 59 00:03:10,417 --> 00:03:12,554 The dead don't rest here. 60 00:03:20,630 --> 00:03:22,132 STEVE: Well, Dan, I'm glad I'm here. 61 00:03:22,134 --> 00:03:23,468 Um, when we spoke on the phone, 62 00:03:23,470 --> 00:03:24,768 you sounded like you're at the point 63 00:03:24,770 --> 00:03:26,302 where you're almost ready to close this place down 64 00:03:26,304 --> 00:03:28,672 because of the activity. 65 00:03:28,674 --> 00:03:29,674 We're having trouble 66 00:03:29,676 --> 00:03:31,344 with employees being scared at night. 67 00:03:31,346 --> 00:03:33,278 - Okay. - I've had several quit. 68 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,414 Customers not staying. 69 00:03:35,416 --> 00:03:36,483 So, give me an idea 70 00:03:36,485 --> 00:03:37,818 of what people are experiencing here. 71 00:03:37,820 --> 00:03:41,022 - What's going on? - Knocking on the door. 72 00:03:41,024 --> 00:03:42,959 Things moving off the shelves. 73 00:03:42,961 --> 00:03:44,728 I've heard of people getting touched. 74 00:03:44,730 --> 00:03:46,830 This seems to be worse the last couple years. 75 00:03:46,832 --> 00:03:48,666 Now, how long have you had this place? 76 00:03:48,668 --> 00:03:50,236 Eight years. 77 00:03:50,238 --> 00:03:51,538 This is a three-story building. 78 00:03:51,540 --> 00:03:53,506 Now, I see the restaurant here on the first floor. 79 00:03:53,508 --> 00:03:54,675 What else you got going on? 80 00:03:54,677 --> 00:03:56,811 On the second floor, we have a sports bar, 81 00:03:56,813 --> 00:04:00,851 and on the third floor, we have seven hotel rooms. 82 00:04:00,853 --> 00:04:02,753 Okay. So now, when you bought it, 83 00:04:02,755 --> 00:04:04,421 did you know it was haunted? 84 00:04:04,423 --> 00:04:05,790 I did not. 85 00:04:05,792 --> 00:04:07,726 I dismissed a lot of it. 86 00:04:07,728 --> 00:04:08,928 What changed your mind? 87 00:04:08,930 --> 00:04:11,731 I was standing at the edge of the bar, 88 00:04:11,733 --> 00:04:13,867 happened to look down at the floor, 89 00:04:13,869 --> 00:04:18,675 and I seen a black fog go across the floor 90 00:04:18,677 --> 00:04:21,211 and then just come up and then schoo, just gone. 91 00:04:21,213 --> 00:04:22,746 What do you think's going on? 92 00:04:22,748 --> 00:04:25,785 Not sure 100%, but the last two years, 93 00:04:25,787 --> 00:04:28,053 there's a lot of... lot of bad things. 94 00:04:28,055 --> 00:04:29,889 Sounds like you could lose the business. 95 00:04:29,891 --> 00:04:31,124 Maybe. 96 00:04:31,126 --> 00:04:33,693 Met a lot of people here, lot of good friends, 97 00:04:33,695 --> 00:04:35,495 - like to keep 'em here. - Right. 98 00:04:35,497 --> 00:04:37,130 Okay. 99 00:04:39,432 --> 00:04:42,867 What people are seeing is kind of like a ghost 100 00:04:42,869 --> 00:04:44,935 but with a black sheet on it. 101 00:04:44,937 --> 00:04:48,068 Everybody thinks that it was a devil or a monster, 102 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:51,139 but it's a person. 103 00:04:51,141 --> 00:04:54,773 He goes under, uh, in the ground, 104 00:04:54,775 --> 00:05:01,272 and he's, like, always kicking, uh, the floor. 105 00:05:01,274 --> 00:05:04,809 Then he was showing me, like, spinning the structure. 106 00:05:04,811 --> 00:05:09,277 Obviously it doesn't spin, but I think structurally, you know, 107 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,579 it has issues all the time 108 00:05:10,581 --> 00:05:12,817 because he's kind of [bleep] with the whole thing. 109 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:20,626 This thing that's under the ground 110 00:05:20,628 --> 00:05:28,296 causes a lot of the stuff that's happening here. 111 00:05:28,298 --> 00:05:32,464 And I would think that most people 112 00:05:32,466 --> 00:05:36,304 probably are also thinking 113 00:05:36,306 --> 00:05:41,343 that there's some kind of poltergeist, but it's not. 114 00:05:41,345 --> 00:05:43,713 He's in his little hole, 115 00:05:43,715 --> 00:05:50,653 and he projects his energy and affects the surroundings. 116 00:05:55,856 --> 00:05:58,059 What's going on in here? 117 00:05:58,061 --> 00:06:00,262 We have a lot of things moving around in this kitchen. 118 00:06:00,264 --> 00:06:01,894 We're concerned about that. 119 00:06:01,896 --> 00:06:04,328 For example, the broom going across the room. 120 00:06:04,330 --> 00:06:05,431 The bartender... 121 00:06:05,433 --> 00:06:07,667 There was nobody in the kitchen at the time, 122 00:06:07,669 --> 00:06:09,535 and the bartender heard a lot of noise... 123 00:06:09,537 --> 00:06:10,503 Okay. 124 00:06:10,505 --> 00:06:12,636 Came out and saw the broom 125 00:06:12,638 --> 00:06:14,305 is in the middle of the floor here, 126 00:06:14,307 --> 00:06:17,609 and she knew that the last time she walked out there 127 00:06:17,611 --> 00:06:18,980 she saw it on the wall back there. 128 00:06:18,982 --> 00:06:20,315 Okay. Nobody was in the kitchen? 129 00:06:20,317 --> 00:06:21,817 - Nobody was in the kitchen. - Okay. 130 00:06:21,819 --> 00:06:24,253 So now, has anything else happened in this place? 131 00:06:24,255 --> 00:06:26,255 Yes. The day that I purchased the building, 132 00:06:26,257 --> 00:06:30,527 I walked through the door, walked past the dishwasher 133 00:06:30,529 --> 00:06:33,799 and stopped for some reason and took a glance at it, 134 00:06:33,801 --> 00:06:36,836 and it just squirted me in the face twice real quick. 135 00:06:36,838 --> 00:06:40,239 We had some, um, more issues with plumbing with faucets 136 00:06:40,241 --> 00:06:41,374 going on and off. 137 00:06:41,376 --> 00:06:42,943 Lot of things that seem, like, 138 00:06:42,945 --> 00:06:45,077 to try to disrupt the business it seems like. 139 00:06:51,587 --> 00:06:55,020 He has a lot of energy. 140 00:06:56,456 --> 00:06:58,490 It'll affect everything structurally, 141 00:06:58,492 --> 00:07:01,792 you know, like, water, uh, plumbing. 142 00:07:01,794 --> 00:07:05,563 It's a lot of him. A lot of him. 143 00:07:05,565 --> 00:07:07,297 Can you describe what he looks like? 144 00:07:07,299 --> 00:07:08,998 And he's, like, squished himself out, 145 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,133 'cause he's in the ground, you know, 146 00:07:11,135 --> 00:07:15,538 and, uh, just has his legs, which are always kicking. 147 00:07:15,540 --> 00:07:17,743 It's very strange. 148 00:07:24,820 --> 00:07:27,357 So, Leslie, thanks for taking the time to talk to me. 149 00:07:27,359 --> 00:07:28,824 You've been working here for a while? 150 00:07:28,826 --> 00:07:32,028 About 17 years. Bartender and waitress. 151 00:07:32,030 --> 00:07:34,098 I've heard about all the things that are happening here. 152 00:07:34,100 --> 00:07:36,298 Um, what about yourself? Any experiences? 153 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:37,333 Quite a few. 154 00:07:37,335 --> 00:07:39,804 I had somebody tap me on the shoulder. 155 00:07:39,806 --> 00:07:41,406 Okay. Where were you? 156 00:07:41,408 --> 00:07:44,075 I was at the computer station. 157 00:07:44,077 --> 00:07:45,544 No one was around me. 158 00:07:45,546 --> 00:07:46,546 You're sure about that? 159 00:07:46,548 --> 00:07:48,248 Yeah. There was nobody there. 160 00:07:48,250 --> 00:07:49,349 And anything else? 161 00:07:49,351 --> 00:07:51,752 I was leaving one night 162 00:07:51,754 --> 00:07:55,324 and saw someone standing on the third floor 163 00:07:55,326 --> 00:07:57,959 in the window in the hallway. 164 00:07:57,961 --> 00:08:00,899 Okay. Was it a guest? 165 00:08:00,901 --> 00:08:03,035 No. There were no guests that night. 166 00:08:03,037 --> 00:08:05,136 I'm the last one here, 167 00:08:05,138 --> 00:08:07,971 and I know if the hotel rooms are rented or not 168 00:08:07,973 --> 00:08:09,574 because we're the check-in. 169 00:08:09,576 --> 00:08:11,878 Okay. Describe the man to me. 170 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,947 Tall and broad-shouldered, dark suit. 171 00:08:15,949 --> 00:08:17,081 A suit? 172 00:08:17,083 --> 00:08:19,683 Yeah, like, old-fashioned suit, bowler hat. 173 00:08:19,685 --> 00:08:20,851 Okay. 174 00:08:20,853 --> 00:08:22,419 Now, Leslie, you've been here... 175 00:08:22,421 --> 00:08:23,620 What? Almost 17 years. 176 00:08:23,622 --> 00:08:24,920 I mean, how you dealing with this? 177 00:08:24,922 --> 00:08:25,788 I mean, why do you stay? 178 00:08:25,790 --> 00:08:28,289 I love the place, 179 00:08:28,291 --> 00:08:32,699 but if I felt a definite threat, I would... 180 00:08:32,701 --> 00:08:35,066 I would probably not be here. 181 00:08:40,775 --> 00:08:42,409 There's a male here. 182 00:08:42,411 --> 00:08:44,078 He is a workaholic. 183 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,213 He's always moving around. He's always working. 184 00:08:47,215 --> 00:08:49,547 Uh, I think that they do see him. 185 00:08:49,549 --> 00:08:52,584 Mostly it's just solid, normal-looking person. 186 00:08:58,090 --> 00:09:06,131 I think the, uh... workaholic doesn't like people up here. 187 00:09:06,133 --> 00:09:07,165 He's mad. 188 00:09:08,902 --> 00:09:11,103 Came right to the door and was like, "Aah!" 189 00:09:13,073 --> 00:09:15,409 Oh, lordy. 190 00:09:15,411 --> 00:09:19,477 He hates this [bleep] 191 00:09:19,479 --> 00:09:23,015 Oh, damn. Oh, geez. 192 00:09:23,017 --> 00:09:25,417 Okay. He's freaking the [bleep] out. 193 00:09:25,419 --> 00:09:29,555 He's yelling, "Get out of here!" 194 00:09:29,557 --> 00:09:32,959 You know, "Leave me alone!" 195 00:09:32,961 --> 00:09:39,533 He invokes such rage in people. 196 00:09:40,802 --> 00:09:44,302 I don't know how they're not killing each other. 197 00:10:04,861 --> 00:10:07,029 Now, how long did you work here? 198 00:10:07,031 --> 00:10:09,064 About four years. I bartended. 199 00:10:09,066 --> 00:10:10,200 I was talking to Danny. 200 00:10:10,202 --> 00:10:11,669 He said a lot of the employees 201 00:10:11,671 --> 00:10:13,704 quit over the stuff that happened here. 202 00:10:13,706 --> 00:10:16,438 What was the feeling like for you when you worked here? 203 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,674 I would experience fear 204 00:10:18,676 --> 00:10:21,679 almost as if I was a child again 205 00:10:21,681 --> 00:10:23,779 locked in a dark bedroom 206 00:10:23,781 --> 00:10:26,416 with demons under my bed and monsters in my closet. 207 00:10:26,418 --> 00:10:29,021 That's how bad it was? 208 00:10:29,023 --> 00:10:30,555 What about experiences? Have you had any? 209 00:10:30,557 --> 00:10:31,822 Yes. 210 00:10:31,824 --> 00:10:37,962 When I was closing the bar, I witnessed a shadow 211 00:10:37,964 --> 00:10:42,966 that actually resembled a man directly behind me, 212 00:10:42,968 --> 00:10:44,937 and it was, like, 7, 8 foot tall. 213 00:10:44,939 --> 00:10:47,074 What did you do? 214 00:10:47,076 --> 00:10:48,941 I was in shock. I didn't really know what to do, 215 00:10:48,943 --> 00:10:50,376 and from that point, 216 00:10:50,378 --> 00:10:53,715 - I was just, like, "I have seen a ghost." - Geez. 217 00:10:53,717 --> 00:10:55,084 - You have anything else? - Yes. 218 00:10:55,086 --> 00:10:57,520 I was working in here, 219 00:10:57,522 --> 00:10:59,254 and I was pushing in the barstools, 220 00:10:59,256 --> 00:11:03,323 and I got to about this barstool right here 221 00:11:03,325 --> 00:11:06,395 and as I went to push it in, it almost just moved for me. 222 00:11:06,397 --> 00:11:08,698 Show me what happened when the chair moved on you. 223 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:09,832 Okay. 224 00:11:09,834 --> 00:11:13,303 I put my foot on it and grabbed here, 225 00:11:13,305 --> 00:11:15,139 and then I went to push it, and as I went to push it, 226 00:11:15,141 --> 00:11:18,811 it was almost, like, it just moved for me so gracefully. 227 00:11:18,813 --> 00:11:21,978 All right. Now, these are heavy. 228 00:11:21,980 --> 00:11:23,445 They're not... 229 00:11:23,447 --> 00:11:24,280 Right. 230 00:11:24,282 --> 00:11:27,482 These aren't light. 231 00:11:27,484 --> 00:11:29,285 I mean, you got to push it. 232 00:11:29,287 --> 00:11:31,322 I can't even try to debunk that. 233 00:11:31,324 --> 00:11:34,622 I just really feel like there's something here. 234 00:11:39,396 --> 00:11:41,933 AMY: The workaholic, he's pissed off. 235 00:11:41,935 --> 00:11:43,801 I mean, he's doing things with the chairs. 236 00:11:43,803 --> 00:11:45,170 [Chuckles] 237 00:11:48,308 --> 00:11:53,011 I feel like he has pushed living people definitely. 238 00:11:53,013 --> 00:11:56,883 You know, he's like, "This is my space." 239 00:11:58,084 --> 00:12:01,118 "Get out of the way, 'cause here I come." 240 00:12:04,655 --> 00:12:07,492 And definitely they got to feel this [bleep] energy, 241 00:12:07,494 --> 00:12:09,629 like, it is so intense. 242 00:12:09,631 --> 00:12:12,935 It is so directed. 243 00:12:12,937 --> 00:12:17,843 I just feel like massive amounts of tension, 244 00:12:17,845 --> 00:12:22,413 the heart, you know, just [bleep] pound... 245 00:12:22,415 --> 00:12:23,748 Like, I'd almost think some people, 246 00:12:23,750 --> 00:12:24,916 they can't [bleep] breathe here. 247 00:12:32,325 --> 00:12:33,691 STEVE: Now, Kathy, I understand 248 00:12:33,693 --> 00:12:35,158 that you actually worked at the hotel for a little bit. 249 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,159 - Is that right? - KATHY: Yes. 250 00:12:36,161 --> 00:12:38,461 I worked there for about six months, 251 00:12:38,463 --> 00:12:41,166 but I've been a customer for about 15 years. 252 00:12:41,168 --> 00:12:42,434 Now, did you stop working there 253 00:12:42,436 --> 00:12:43,669 because of what was going on? 254 00:12:43,671 --> 00:12:45,838 That was a very big part of it. 255 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,706 Yeah. I read the signs. 256 00:12:47,708 --> 00:12:49,341 You know, somebody was warning me 257 00:12:49,343 --> 00:12:50,641 about something, so, um... Okay. 258 00:12:50,643 --> 00:12:51,941 Now, what kind of things are we talking about? 259 00:12:51,943 --> 00:12:54,846 When I was a patron sitting at the bar one evening, 260 00:12:54,848 --> 00:12:59,152 um, I turned, and I saw two apparitions in booth one. 261 00:12:59,154 --> 00:13:02,322 Okay. How do you know they were apparitions? 262 00:13:02,324 --> 00:13:05,428 I said to the waitress, "You've got people in booth one?" 263 00:13:05,430 --> 00:13:08,032 And she turned and said, "Kath, there's nobody there." 264 00:13:08,034 --> 00:13:08,967 So it couldn't have been 265 00:13:08,969 --> 00:13:10,137 a mirror reflection of anything? 266 00:13:10,139 --> 00:13:11,572 No. There's no mirror anywhere near it. 267 00:13:11,574 --> 00:13:12,773 - Near it. - Nope. 268 00:13:12,775 --> 00:13:13,908 Anything else? 269 00:13:13,910 --> 00:13:16,879 One full moon night, the bar was closed, 270 00:13:16,881 --> 00:13:18,882 and looked up, and on the third floor, 271 00:13:18,884 --> 00:13:21,522 I saw a man in the middle window, 272 00:13:21,524 --> 00:13:25,257 and it was like he was looking up and down the street. 273 00:13:25,259 --> 00:13:26,858 You know, you're the second person to tell me that. 274 00:13:26,860 --> 00:13:28,058 What'd he look like? 275 00:13:28,060 --> 00:13:32,363 He had a fedora, so he kind of resembled a gangster. 276 00:13:32,365 --> 00:13:33,930 - Really? - Yeah. 277 00:13:33,932 --> 00:13:35,029 Would you recognize him 278 00:13:35,031 --> 00:13:36,896 if you saw him in a photo or a sketch? 279 00:13:36,898 --> 00:13:38,264 I believe so. Yes. Mm-hmm. 280 00:13:38,266 --> 00:13:39,500 Anything else? 281 00:13:39,502 --> 00:13:42,337 When I was working and I was doing the dishes, 282 00:13:42,339 --> 00:13:45,641 - I was by the, uh, sink... - Okay. 283 00:13:45,643 --> 00:13:47,473 And I felt a tug on my apron. 284 00:13:47,475 --> 00:13:49,039 Was anybody walking by you at the time? 285 00:13:49,041 --> 00:13:50,303 No. No. 286 00:13:50,305 --> 00:13:53,302 'Cause I looked around, and there was nobody around me. 287 00:13:53,304 --> 00:13:55,771 So you've had a lot of experiences there. 288 00:13:55,773 --> 00:13:57,540 What do you think is going on in this place? 289 00:13:57,542 --> 00:13:58,707 There's no question in my mind 290 00:13:58,709 --> 00:14:00,608 that there's something evil there. 291 00:14:03,176 --> 00:14:05,913 The workaholic likes this floor. 292 00:14:05,915 --> 00:14:09,447 He is, like, putting pillows on people's faces. 293 00:14:13,953 --> 00:14:18,458 He does not like, um, drug addicts and whores. 294 00:14:18,460 --> 00:14:23,966 His thing of, you know, getting the people [bleep] up, 295 00:14:23,968 --> 00:14:26,199 and he's smothering 'em. 296 00:14:26,201 --> 00:14:27,334 He's trying to kill 'em 297 00:14:27,336 --> 00:14:29,371 with the [bleep] smothering 'em to death. 298 00:14:29,373 --> 00:14:31,575 Somehow made it look like a heart attack. 299 00:14:34,778 --> 00:14:39,751 Makes me feel very uncomfortable and panicked. 300 00:14:39,753 --> 00:14:48,327 There's some talk he may have killed someone 301 00:14:48,329 --> 00:14:50,361 after he is dead. 302 00:15:06,224 --> 00:15:08,359 STEVE: Dan and his employees didn't know much 303 00:15:08,361 --> 00:15:10,229 about the history of the Barbee Hotel, 304 00:15:10,231 --> 00:15:12,534 so I'm at the local library to see what I can find. 305 00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:17,735 Searching through old records, I find a man named Joseph Plu 306 00:15:17,737 --> 00:15:20,904 who used to live on my client's property in the late 1800s. 307 00:15:20,906 --> 00:15:23,641 Turns out he was accused of a brutal double murder 308 00:15:23,643 --> 00:15:24,975 at his neighbor's house. 309 00:15:28,912 --> 00:15:31,016 I've called on my old friend Butch Barile. 310 00:15:31,018 --> 00:15:32,517 He's a local retired detective. 311 00:15:32,519 --> 00:15:34,484 He said he'd dig into the case for me 312 00:15:34,486 --> 00:15:36,318 and tell me exactly what happened. 313 00:15:42,022 --> 00:15:44,752 STEVE: February of 1887, I come across an article, 314 00:15:44,754 --> 00:15:47,751 this kid Joseph Plu who got charged with a double murder 315 00:15:47,753 --> 00:15:50,021 right on the property I'm investigating. 316 00:15:50,023 --> 00:15:51,289 What were you able to find out? 317 00:15:51,291 --> 00:15:55,623 Joseph Plu lived on your client's land 318 00:15:55,625 --> 00:16:00,896 with his grandparents next to a Henry Dunham, 319 00:16:00,898 --> 00:16:03,563 who had hired Joseph Plu 320 00:16:03,565 --> 00:16:05,798 to work and help him on his farm. 321 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,167 So, what kind of a crime scene are we looking at? 322 00:16:07,169 --> 00:16:08,167 What happened? 323 00:16:08,169 --> 00:16:09,467 So, it was, uh... 324 00:16:09,469 --> 00:16:12,103 it was a pretty grisly crime scene. 325 00:16:12,105 --> 00:16:17,378 Henry, he had a 20-month-old baby, a daughter, 326 00:16:17,380 --> 00:16:20,913 and her throat was slit ear to ear. 327 00:16:20,915 --> 00:16:22,951 The other victim was Henry himself. 328 00:16:22,953 --> 00:16:24,219 Okay. 329 00:16:24,221 --> 00:16:28,023 He was found out in the yard with several stab wounds 330 00:16:28,025 --> 00:16:32,159 and, uh, it's thought that hogs got to him. 331 00:16:32,161 --> 00:16:33,996 His body was completely mutilated 332 00:16:33,998 --> 00:16:35,498 and half-eaten, literally. 333 00:16:38,535 --> 00:16:42,307 I see, like, somebody's face being [bleep] 334 00:16:42,309 --> 00:16:45,309 I feel like it's a male. 335 00:16:45,311 --> 00:16:49,714 He's, like, very much in pain right now, 336 00:16:49,716 --> 00:16:51,716 and he can't breathe. 337 00:16:51,718 --> 00:16:54,186 Ow! 338 00:16:55,822 --> 00:17:01,792 Something... got hit in the head, maybe, here. 339 00:17:01,794 --> 00:17:04,262 I know there's a few people. 340 00:17:06,332 --> 00:17:07,500 There's more than one. 341 00:17:07,502 --> 00:17:10,671 I think he's just in his death state. 342 00:17:10,673 --> 00:17:14,375 There's so much pain in my head. 343 00:17:14,377 --> 00:17:15,945 Oh, my God. 344 00:17:17,415 --> 00:17:18,750 So what happens next? 345 00:17:18,752 --> 00:17:21,887 A neighbor happened to be walking near the property, 346 00:17:21,889 --> 00:17:23,654 found him laying there, 347 00:17:23,656 --> 00:17:27,023 went inside the house and found Lucy Dunham, 348 00:17:27,025 --> 00:17:31,065 Henry's wife, who was just barely clinging to life. 349 00:17:31,067 --> 00:17:33,732 She also had several stab wounds 350 00:17:33,734 --> 00:17:35,634 and... and severe head injuries. 351 00:17:35,636 --> 00:17:36,669 So now, at the time, 352 00:17:36,671 --> 00:17:38,438 Plu lived on my client's property, 353 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,474 and I'm assuming now that 'cause she survived, 354 00:17:40,476 --> 00:17:42,343 she identifies him as the perp. 355 00:17:42,345 --> 00:17:45,549 She identifies him, but also she knew 356 00:17:45,551 --> 00:17:48,551 there were two other people there, 357 00:17:48,553 --> 00:17:50,954 but she couldn't identify either one of 'em. 358 00:17:50,956 --> 00:17:53,191 Now, there's a lot of rage in this case, 359 00:17:53,193 --> 00:17:55,861 and what would motivate this kid, Plu, to do this? 360 00:17:55,863 --> 00:17:58,196 My understanding is that there was a lot of animosity 361 00:17:58,198 --> 00:17:59,431 between him and the wife. 362 00:17:59,433 --> 00:18:01,799 - Okay. - They'd have some confrontations 363 00:18:01,801 --> 00:18:02,933 and some problems. 364 00:18:02,935 --> 00:18:05,234 - He didn't really care for her. - Okay. 365 00:18:05,236 --> 00:18:07,836 In fact, I think they'd had some problems 366 00:18:07,838 --> 00:18:10,871 with Mr. Dunham arguing over, you know, over pay. 367 00:18:10,873 --> 00:18:14,475 Joseph Plu, he had some... some cash on him. 368 00:18:14,477 --> 00:18:17,346 He had $90, my understanding was, 369 00:18:17,348 --> 00:18:21,282 and I think some of it had bloodstains on it. 370 00:18:21,284 --> 00:18:22,687 Okay. 371 00:18:22,689 --> 00:18:25,155 You and I both know that this is not the type of murder, 372 00:18:25,157 --> 00:18:27,489 especially with this baby that you commit over $85... 373 00:18:27,491 --> 00:18:28,792 No... or whatever money. 374 00:18:28,794 --> 00:18:31,264 No, not at all. 375 00:18:31,266 --> 00:18:34,332 It was, uh, some, you know, severe hatred involved. 376 00:18:34,334 --> 00:18:36,702 Wow. Okay. 377 00:18:36,704 --> 00:18:40,341 There's a dead lady. 378 00:18:40,343 --> 00:18:43,310 She's, like, hanging on. 379 00:18:43,312 --> 00:18:45,547 She's, like, hanging on to my leg. 380 00:18:45,549 --> 00:18:49,253 She's, like, being dragged across the floor. 381 00:18:49,255 --> 00:18:52,992 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 382 00:18:52,994 --> 00:18:55,160 She, like... 383 00:18:55,162 --> 00:18:56,896 I don't know what the [bleep] happened to her, man. 384 00:18:56,898 --> 00:18:58,264 She got [bleep] 385 00:18:58,266 --> 00:19:00,334 I think that somebody killed her. 386 00:19:04,273 --> 00:19:08,743 There's a couple of men around her. 387 00:19:08,745 --> 00:19:09,809 I feel them. 388 00:19:09,811 --> 00:19:13,614 She knew one for sure. 389 00:19:13,616 --> 00:19:16,318 Why is my friend doing this? 390 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:22,088 Someone says it's a brutal assault with a little knife. 391 00:19:25,125 --> 00:19:27,494 I feel like someone got stabbed. 392 00:19:28,863 --> 00:19:30,296 Uh... 393 00:19:32,565 --> 00:19:34,631 Okay. So now, Plu gets charged. 394 00:19:34,633 --> 00:19:37,199 Does he get convicted? What's the story? 395 00:19:37,201 --> 00:19:39,235 Plu does get charged and gets convicted, 396 00:19:39,237 --> 00:19:42,508 and he, uh... he takes a life sentence. 397 00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:43,676 All right. 398 00:19:43,678 --> 00:19:46,444 So, does this kid end up dying in jail or what? 399 00:19:46,446 --> 00:19:50,917 No. So, what happens is he ends up serving 29 years. 400 00:19:50,919 --> 00:19:55,457 Henry Dunham's wife comes back and says 401 00:19:55,459 --> 00:19:58,860 that she can't confirm for sure that he did do it. 402 00:19:58,862 --> 00:20:00,230 After 29 years. 403 00:20:00,232 --> 00:20:03,767 After 29 years, so he gets a pardon and he gets out. 404 00:20:03,769 --> 00:20:04,967 Wow. 405 00:20:04,969 --> 00:20:08,907 And this is Plu 29 years later 406 00:20:08,909 --> 00:20:10,510 when he gets released. 407 00:20:10,512 --> 00:20:13,414 Now, how old is Plu when he gets out? 408 00:20:13,416 --> 00:20:14,347 He's 53. 409 00:20:14,349 --> 00:20:16,551 All right. So he get's pardoned. 410 00:20:16,553 --> 00:20:19,323 Do they look at anybody else as a suspect? 411 00:20:19,325 --> 00:20:20,523 No. 412 00:20:20,525 --> 00:20:24,127 It's still, for all practical purposes... 413 00:20:24,129 --> 00:20:25,730 - Unsolved? - ...unsolved. 414 00:20:28,701 --> 00:20:33,004 This dead guy, someone's calling him derogatory names. 415 00:20:33,006 --> 00:20:34,639 MATTHEW: What do they say? 416 00:20:34,641 --> 00:20:36,876 They're saying that he's gay and stuff. 417 00:20:36,878 --> 00:20:40,114 What are you shaking your head about? 418 00:20:40,116 --> 00:20:43,920 I don't understand how this could be such a violent place. 419 00:20:47,188 --> 00:20:49,056 It's too much. 420 00:20:49,058 --> 00:20:53,196 Makes me feel very uncomfortable and panicked. 421 00:20:53,198 --> 00:20:58,036 I feel very, very sad, like I want to cry. 422 00:21:15,998 --> 00:21:17,832 One of the first things I do on a case 423 00:21:17,834 --> 00:21:19,467 is reach out to local historians. 424 00:21:19,469 --> 00:21:23,972 Usually I don't turn up too much, but in this case, 425 00:21:23,974 --> 00:21:25,741 a local genealogist tells me 426 00:21:25,743 --> 00:21:28,977 that the man that built Dan's hotel has a wild story 427 00:21:28,979 --> 00:21:30,343 and I'm definitely gonna want to hear it. 428 00:21:38,117 --> 00:21:39,482 STEVE: Well, Beth, thanks for meeting me. 429 00:21:39,484 --> 00:21:40,584 I appreciate that. 430 00:21:40,586 --> 00:21:42,187 You mentioned on the phone 431 00:21:42,189 --> 00:21:44,654 that the guy that originally built the hotel 432 00:21:44,656 --> 00:21:46,291 on the property I'm investigating 433 00:21:46,293 --> 00:21:48,028 had an interesting story behind him? 434 00:21:48,030 --> 00:21:49,698 Yes. His name was Henry Hover. 435 00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:51,567 He was a farmer. 436 00:21:51,569 --> 00:21:55,505 This is a photo that we found when he was farming. 437 00:21:55,507 --> 00:21:59,045 He... you can see he's at the end of the photo here. 438 00:21:59,047 --> 00:22:02,115 Okay. So, how does he go from being a farmer 439 00:22:02,117 --> 00:22:03,585 to building a hotel? 440 00:22:03,587 --> 00:22:08,291 He started amassing that property in 1880, 441 00:22:08,293 --> 00:22:10,993 and it took him 17 years, 442 00:22:10,995 --> 00:22:14,495 but in 1897, he got the hotel. 443 00:22:14,497 --> 00:22:18,264 These are the photos of the hotel that we have. 444 00:22:18,266 --> 00:22:21,968 He... he just stuck to his vision. 445 00:22:21,970 --> 00:22:24,169 Okay. So now he has his dream hotel. 446 00:22:24,171 --> 00:22:25,270 What happens? 447 00:22:25,272 --> 00:22:26,739 Does he live there happily ever after? 448 00:22:26,741 --> 00:22:27,942 I mean, what's the story? 449 00:22:27,944 --> 00:22:31,112 No. Henry just has one tragedy after another. 450 00:22:31,114 --> 00:22:33,613 1897, the year the hotel's built, 451 00:22:33,615 --> 00:22:35,917 he loses a son Ira who's sick. 452 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:37,751 He dies of unknown causes. 453 00:22:37,753 --> 00:22:41,958 In 1901, his wife loses a child in childbirth. 454 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,524 The biggest tragedy happened in 1902, 455 00:22:44,526 --> 00:22:47,193 when he lost his 3-year-old son, Elmer, 456 00:22:47,195 --> 00:22:49,396 to an accident. 457 00:22:49,398 --> 00:22:52,966 Elmer is playing in the hotel. 458 00:22:52,968 --> 00:22:54,868 They work there. They live there. 459 00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:57,203 He's trying to climb on top of a bean sack 460 00:22:57,205 --> 00:22:59,273 to get up to the counter. 461 00:22:59,275 --> 00:23:03,144 His foot slips and his little chin hits the counter, 462 00:23:03,146 --> 00:23:04,643 and broke his neck. 463 00:23:04,645 --> 00:23:07,879 Within 20 minutes, little Elmer is gone. 464 00:23:07,881 --> 00:23:10,451 So what happens after all this? 465 00:23:10,453 --> 00:23:11,986 He runs into financial trouble, 466 00:23:11,988 --> 00:23:15,757 and in 1906, sells the hotel for a loss. 467 00:23:15,759 --> 00:23:18,629 Okay. 468 00:23:18,631 --> 00:23:20,797 He dies at the age of 68 469 00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:24,633 after being confined in bed for a year from tuberculosis. 470 00:23:24,635 --> 00:23:26,469 - You're kidding me? - Nope. 471 00:23:26,471 --> 00:23:29,272 So what happened with the hotel? 472 00:23:29,274 --> 00:23:31,510 It burned down in the 1920s, 473 00:23:31,512 --> 00:23:34,813 and the hotel you see today is a rebuild, 474 00:23:34,815 --> 00:23:37,383 but it looks very similar to the original. 475 00:23:41,992 --> 00:23:47,862 I want to say that he... owned this place 476 00:23:47,864 --> 00:23:55,565 or was in charge of this place, um, or thinks he is still. 477 00:23:57,935 --> 00:23:59,235 MATTHEW: The workaholic guy? 478 00:23:59,237 --> 00:24:00,703 Yes. 479 00:24:00,705 --> 00:24:02,472 Do you know anything about what he was like in life? 480 00:24:02,474 --> 00:24:05,777 He's, like, between 55 and 60. 481 00:24:05,779 --> 00:24:10,283 He came from a... a hardworking background, 482 00:24:10,285 --> 00:24:16,661 and he feels he did well until this happened. 483 00:24:16,663 --> 00:24:22,069 He's still acting like he is working. 484 00:24:22,071 --> 00:24:26,041 He just goes and he just does what he did every day. 485 00:24:26,043 --> 00:24:29,146 That's what makes him feel comfortable. 486 00:24:35,385 --> 00:24:38,422 Beth mentioned that Dan's building ended up burning down. 487 00:24:38,424 --> 00:24:41,258 Obviously, I need to find out exactly what happened. 488 00:24:41,260 --> 00:24:44,493 I'm heading over to meet with a local firefighter. 489 00:24:44,495 --> 00:24:48,167 He says the cause of the fire is still a mystery to this day. 490 00:24:54,675 --> 00:24:56,376 STEVE: Well, Chief, thanks for meeting me. 491 00:24:56,378 --> 00:24:57,411 I appreciate it. 492 00:24:57,413 --> 00:24:59,079 So now, the expert I talked to said 493 00:24:59,081 --> 00:25:01,545 that the hotel I'm investigating burnt down in the '20s, 494 00:25:01,547 --> 00:25:03,780 - and you said it was true. - Absolutely. 495 00:25:03,782 --> 00:25:05,950 August 18, 1921, 496 00:25:05,952 --> 00:25:08,285 the fire completely destroyed the hotel. 497 00:25:08,287 --> 00:25:09,452 Okay. 498 00:25:09,454 --> 00:25:11,719 This is one of the articles. 499 00:25:11,721 --> 00:25:13,255 What was the story with it? 500 00:25:13,257 --> 00:25:15,496 The fire started in the attic area 501 00:25:15,498 --> 00:25:16,764 and then it went 502 00:25:16,766 --> 00:25:19,535 and it slowly started to burn across the attic. 503 00:25:19,537 --> 00:25:22,238 Okay. Now, what about casualties, anything? 504 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,538 It's my understanding 505 00:25:23,540 --> 00:25:25,741 that there was roughly 50 people there 506 00:25:25,743 --> 00:25:27,946 when the fire started, and not a one of them 507 00:25:27,948 --> 00:25:30,082 suffered an injury or a death. 508 00:25:30,084 --> 00:25:31,715 Okay. So, they were able to get everybody out... 509 00:25:31,717 --> 00:25:33,184 - Yes... - before the building collapsed. 510 00:25:33,186 --> 00:25:34,486 All right. So, do we know, Chief, 511 00:25:34,488 --> 00:25:35,821 exactly what even started the fire? 512 00:25:35,823 --> 00:25:38,790 The articles I've read said spontaneous combustion. 513 00:25:38,792 --> 00:25:41,393 There was no electrical wiring in the attic, 514 00:25:41,395 --> 00:25:42,694 so they ruled that out 515 00:25:42,696 --> 00:25:45,097 and they went to spontaneous combustion. 516 00:25:45,099 --> 00:25:46,865 All right. So, in your opinion, though, what do you think? 517 00:25:46,867 --> 00:25:48,367 I don't know that we'll ever know. 518 00:25:50,570 --> 00:25:57,109 There's been a lot of things that have happened. 519 00:25:57,111 --> 00:25:59,712 It's kind of crazy. 520 00:25:59,714 --> 00:26:03,882 There was a fire, but I don't know 521 00:26:03,884 --> 00:26:07,717 if it was actually this structure 522 00:26:07,719 --> 00:26:09,352 or if there was another structure. 523 00:26:11,558 --> 00:26:15,325 It's residual, but it happened. 524 00:26:24,964 --> 00:26:27,566 I saw several dead people on my walk, 525 00:26:27,568 --> 00:26:30,773 but the workaholic is the most advanced entity. 526 00:26:30,775 --> 00:26:32,241 I'm meeting with an artist 527 00:26:32,243 --> 00:26:34,342 to describe how he appeared in life. 528 00:26:36,245 --> 00:26:42,288 He's probably between 55 and 60 years of age. 529 00:26:42,290 --> 00:26:45,860 He has a very thick, full head of gray hair. 530 00:26:49,098 --> 00:26:52,066 His nose has been probably broken a few times. 531 00:27:00,509 --> 00:27:02,279 Yes. That's what I saw. 532 00:27:23,336 --> 00:27:26,303 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 533 00:27:26,305 --> 00:27:29,341 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 534 00:27:29,343 --> 00:27:31,708 and our clients for the first time. 535 00:27:31,710 --> 00:27:34,042 Well, Amy, I'd like you to meet Dan. 536 00:27:34,044 --> 00:27:36,112 He is the owner of this restaurant/hotel 537 00:27:36,114 --> 00:27:37,448 for about eight years now. 538 00:27:37,450 --> 00:27:39,982 Activity here is bad and it's getting worse, 539 00:27:39,984 --> 00:27:44,148 and it's hurting his business and if it keeps going like this, 540 00:27:44,150 --> 00:27:46,115 he's gonna have to shut the place down. 541 00:27:46,117 --> 00:27:48,484 Leslie here has worked here for 17 years? 542 00:27:48,486 --> 00:27:50,386 She's had ton of experiences, 543 00:27:50,388 --> 00:27:53,123 and I kind of think she's numb to it at this point. 544 00:27:53,125 --> 00:27:55,353 Now, Kathy lives directly across the street. 545 00:27:55,355 --> 00:27:56,787 She's been here for 15 years. 546 00:27:56,789 --> 00:28:00,458 She actually worked in the restaurant for six months. 547 00:28:00,460 --> 00:28:03,093 She thinks that whatever's here is evil, 548 00:28:03,095 --> 00:28:06,061 and that Dan and his staff could be in danger. 549 00:28:06,063 --> 00:28:08,399 So, now that Amy knows a little bit about what's going on, 550 00:28:08,401 --> 00:28:11,036 I'm gonna have her talk about her walk. 551 00:28:15,241 --> 00:28:17,479 So one of the first things that I got 552 00:28:17,481 --> 00:28:19,351 when I got out of the vehicle 553 00:28:19,353 --> 00:28:21,087 was that there had been a fire here. 554 00:28:21,089 --> 00:28:23,722 I was smelling it and tasting it, 555 00:28:23,724 --> 00:28:27,194 and I felt like people were breathing in the smoke, 556 00:28:27,196 --> 00:28:29,795 and I didn't know if it was this structure 557 00:28:29,797 --> 00:28:31,195 or a structure nearby. 558 00:28:31,197 --> 00:28:33,796 Well, you hit that pretty much on the head. 559 00:28:33,798 --> 00:28:37,199 Now, the hotel opened in 1897. 560 00:28:37,201 --> 00:28:39,568 It was opened up as the Hotel Ormond. 561 00:28:39,570 --> 00:28:43,703 But back on August 18, 1921, the building caught on fire. 562 00:28:43,705 --> 00:28:45,537 It started in the attic. 563 00:28:45,539 --> 00:28:47,741 They tried dousing it out, but you know what? 564 00:28:47,743 --> 00:28:48,642 They had no shot. 565 00:28:48,644 --> 00:28:50,843 Now, nobody died in that fire, 566 00:28:50,845 --> 00:28:54,581 but there were 50 people staying here at the time, 567 00:28:54,583 --> 00:28:58,746 but they all got out safely, and I have an article here about it. 568 00:28:58,748 --> 00:29:01,450 Now, two years later, the hotel was rebuilt 569 00:29:01,452 --> 00:29:02,916 and that's the building we're in right now. 570 00:29:02,918 --> 00:29:04,017 That makes sense. 571 00:29:07,825 --> 00:29:10,493 One of the first conscious entities 572 00:29:10,495 --> 00:29:13,563 that I encountered was on the first floor. 573 00:29:13,565 --> 00:29:17,133 Um, so he was really strange, because what I saw him doing 574 00:29:17,135 --> 00:29:21,038 was, like, burrowing under the ground. 575 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,808 And he's, like, always kicking, uh, the floor. 576 00:29:26,810 --> 00:29:31,348 Then he was showing me, like, spinning the structure. 577 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:34,384 I think structurally, you know, it has issues all the time 578 00:29:34,386 --> 00:29:37,053 because he's kind of [bleep] with the whole thing. 579 00:29:37,055 --> 00:29:40,122 But what I saw as a direct result of that 580 00:29:40,124 --> 00:29:43,794 was causing issues with, like, plumbing 581 00:29:43,796 --> 00:29:46,965 or electricity or things breaking. 582 00:29:46,967 --> 00:29:49,431 Dan, the first day in this place, 583 00:29:49,433 --> 00:29:52,366 you had issues with the water, right? 584 00:29:52,368 --> 00:29:56,499 DAN: Yes. As I walked in and walked past the dishwasher, 585 00:29:56,501 --> 00:29:59,037 and stopped and turned and looked at it for some reason, 586 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:02,142 and, um, it squirted me right in the face twice. 587 00:30:02,144 --> 00:30:04,411 I mean, you've been here the longest. 588 00:30:04,413 --> 00:30:05,613 Long time. 589 00:30:05,615 --> 00:30:07,783 So, as far as the structural issues, 590 00:30:07,785 --> 00:30:10,287 has this been ongoing? 591 00:30:10,289 --> 00:30:11,621 Yeah. 592 00:30:11,623 --> 00:30:12,689 I mean, some of it you chalk up to it's an old building. 593 00:30:12,691 --> 00:30:16,625 But we have a lot of electrical glitches 594 00:30:16,627 --> 00:30:17,693 and computer glitches. 595 00:30:17,695 --> 00:30:19,328 That happens a lot. 596 00:30:19,330 --> 00:30:20,496 Interesting. 597 00:30:24,766 --> 00:30:26,635 STEVE: Okay. So what else did you see? 598 00:30:26,637 --> 00:30:28,171 During my walk, I came across 599 00:30:28,173 --> 00:30:29,940 a couple of murder scenes, 600 00:30:29,942 --> 00:30:33,278 and one of them involved a female in the bar area. 601 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,181 So I walk over there 602 00:30:35,183 --> 00:30:39,819 and this woman, like, grabbed on to my lower legs 603 00:30:39,821 --> 00:30:42,289 and was, like, dragging herself on the floor. 604 00:30:42,291 --> 00:30:43,558 She was beaten. 605 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,827 There were three men that were involved at least. 606 00:30:46,829 --> 00:30:50,869 She knew one of them most certainly. 607 00:30:50,871 --> 00:30:53,338 I kept hearing, like, while all this chaos is going on, 608 00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:55,539 like, the guys were laughing. 609 00:30:55,541 --> 00:30:57,672 It was excruciatingly painful. 610 00:30:59,373 --> 00:31:01,006 The next murder victim I encountered 611 00:31:01,008 --> 00:31:02,139 was a male outside 612 00:31:02,141 --> 00:31:04,240 who was stuck in his death state. 613 00:31:04,242 --> 00:31:08,475 I started feeling like a really sharp pain in my chest, 614 00:31:08,477 --> 00:31:11,043 and so I think he was stabbed. 615 00:31:11,045 --> 00:31:14,311 And I'm hearing these men clearly, like, yelling at me, 616 00:31:14,313 --> 00:31:16,282 like, horrible, really awful things. 617 00:31:16,284 --> 00:31:20,152 And I think there was some kind of issue with him 618 00:31:20,154 --> 00:31:22,621 where these males might have thought 619 00:31:22,623 --> 00:31:25,691 that he was a homosexual or something of that nature. 620 00:31:25,693 --> 00:31:27,425 There was a double murder 621 00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:30,326 that had strong connection to this place. 622 00:31:30,328 --> 00:31:31,694 It happened in 1887. 623 00:31:31,696 --> 00:31:34,563 A guy by the name of Joseph Plu lived here. 624 00:31:34,565 --> 00:31:37,131 Now, I got a photo of him. 625 00:31:37,133 --> 00:31:40,067 Now, he lived next door to a guy named Henry Dunham. 626 00:31:40,069 --> 00:31:42,236 And now, Henry lived on the property 627 00:31:42,238 --> 00:31:44,005 with his wife and 20-month-old daughter. 628 00:31:44,007 --> 00:31:46,472 So he needed to hire somebody to work on the farm for him, 629 00:31:46,474 --> 00:31:47,439 and he hired this guy. 630 00:31:47,441 --> 00:31:51,543 Now, on February 7, 1887, 631 00:31:51,545 --> 00:31:53,446 this is when a brutal crime takes place. 632 00:31:53,448 --> 00:31:54,747 Henry was stabbed repeatedly. 633 00:31:54,749 --> 00:31:58,820 They find Henry in the barn area outside. 634 00:31:58,822 --> 00:32:01,289 He's stabbed to death and his body's mutilated 635 00:32:01,291 --> 00:32:04,157 because he had hogs on the property 636 00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:06,924 that basically went to town on him, and they ate him. 637 00:32:06,926 --> 00:32:10,927 Now, inside, his 20-month-old daughter was also murdered. 638 00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:12,328 It was pretty brutal. 639 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:14,127 She was cut from ear to ear, 640 00:32:14,129 --> 00:32:16,627 practically almost right to the point 641 00:32:16,629 --> 00:32:18,362 where her head was cut off. 642 00:32:18,364 --> 00:32:21,633 His wife Lucy was stabbed several times and beaten, 643 00:32:21,635 --> 00:32:23,434 but she survived actually. 644 00:32:23,436 --> 00:32:25,971 This is where it gets interesting. 645 00:32:25,973 --> 00:32:27,875 She told the cops that there were three attackers, 646 00:32:27,877 --> 00:32:29,675 and one of them was Plu. 647 00:32:29,677 --> 00:32:31,545 She's like, "Yeah. It was him and two other guys," 648 00:32:31,547 --> 00:32:33,248 that she couldn't identify. 649 00:32:33,250 --> 00:32:35,214 He's the only one that gets charged. 650 00:32:35,216 --> 00:32:38,418 29 years later, Lucy comes back and says, 651 00:32:38,420 --> 00:32:39,820 "I'm not sure Plu was at the crime scene." 652 00:32:39,822 --> 00:32:42,056 This is after the guy's in jail for 29 years. 653 00:32:42,058 --> 00:32:43,423 So why would she retract that? 654 00:32:43,425 --> 00:32:46,025 Your guess is as good as mine. 655 00:32:46,027 --> 00:32:49,127 It's still a mystery to this day, this case. 656 00:32:49,129 --> 00:32:51,562 This is actually a picture of Plu when he came out, 657 00:32:51,564 --> 00:32:54,397 29 years later. 658 00:32:54,399 --> 00:32:56,433 This is, uh... this is him. 659 00:32:57,802 --> 00:32:59,102 Did you know about any of this? 660 00:32:59,104 --> 00:33:00,839 'Cause you seem upset about it, 661 00:33:00,841 --> 00:33:03,343 and I know it's a terrible story. 662 00:33:03,345 --> 00:33:05,611 When she spoke about the woman, 663 00:33:05,613 --> 00:33:09,813 um... I've gotten feelings about, 664 00:33:09,815 --> 00:33:13,546 uh, a lady, um, that was, uh, raped 665 00:33:13,548 --> 00:33:15,647 and... and murdered. 666 00:33:15,649 --> 00:33:16,848 So I felt it. 667 00:33:16,850 --> 00:33:20,721 You know, it was, uh, by more than just one person. 668 00:33:20,723 --> 00:33:24,188 Her spirit had came through me 669 00:33:24,190 --> 00:33:26,224 and talked with me 670 00:33:26,226 --> 00:33:30,590 and, uh... um, she... she's, like, telling me 671 00:33:30,592 --> 00:33:32,359 that she was forced to retract that. 672 00:33:32,361 --> 00:33:34,296 Oh, interesting. Okay. 673 00:33:34,298 --> 00:33:36,799 Well, let me ask you a question. Do you think she has abilities? 674 00:33:36,801 --> 00:33:38,632 Yes. 675 00:33:38,634 --> 00:33:41,133 - Mm-hmm. - Yes, I do. 676 00:33:41,135 --> 00:33:45,270 It seems to me that she wants people 677 00:33:45,272 --> 00:33:47,872 to know exactly what happened. 678 00:33:47,874 --> 00:33:51,145 She wants, you know, the truth to be told. 679 00:33:51,147 --> 00:33:53,815 I think it was him. 680 00:33:53,817 --> 00:33:55,384 They raped her. 681 00:33:59,254 --> 00:34:00,321 All right. 682 00:34:00,323 --> 00:34:01,756 So what else happened on your walk? 683 00:34:01,758 --> 00:34:03,624 One of the people that I encountered, 684 00:34:03,626 --> 00:34:05,291 he seemed to me to be 685 00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:08,895 the most physically present dead person here. 686 00:34:08,897 --> 00:34:13,800 And he came off very much as like a workaholic, 687 00:34:13,802 --> 00:34:17,806 but when I went upstairs, very different. 688 00:34:17,808 --> 00:34:20,172 He was like, "Get the [bleep] out of there. 689 00:34:20,174 --> 00:34:22,742 This is... this is my... my space." 690 00:34:22,744 --> 00:34:27,315 One of the ways that he sometimes shows himself 691 00:34:27,317 --> 00:34:31,319 is as a tall, shadow-type figure. 692 00:34:31,321 --> 00:34:33,787 Now, you've seen a guy 693 00:34:33,789 --> 00:34:35,492 in the window upstairs, though, right? 694 00:34:35,494 --> 00:34:36,659 - A tall guy? - KATHY: Yes. 695 00:34:36,661 --> 00:34:38,192 And when I've seen him, 696 00:34:38,194 --> 00:34:40,594 he was just, like, looking down 697 00:34:40,596 --> 00:34:43,463 each side of the street as to see if he... 698 00:34:43,465 --> 00:34:45,301 he's looking for someone, 699 00:34:45,303 --> 00:34:46,969 like a lookout-type of a guy. 700 00:34:46,971 --> 00:34:48,369 Mm-hmm. 701 00:34:48,371 --> 00:34:51,772 You saw it leaving work one day when nobody's here. 702 00:34:51,774 --> 00:34:52,905 Yeah. 703 00:34:52,907 --> 00:34:54,775 There was nobody in the building when I left. 704 00:34:54,777 --> 00:34:56,145 Mm-hmm. 705 00:34:56,147 --> 00:34:57,947 Did you get any sense 706 00:34:57,949 --> 00:34:59,613 of who this guy might have been when he was alive? 707 00:34:59,615 --> 00:35:04,588 He worked his whole life to do well for himself, 708 00:35:04,590 --> 00:35:07,721 and he felt like he did do well for himself. 709 00:35:07,723 --> 00:35:10,094 I thought that he either owned this place 710 00:35:10,096 --> 00:35:11,997 or was in charge of this place. 711 00:35:11,999 --> 00:35:15,997 And, uh, he thinks that he's still... 712 00:35:15,999 --> 00:35:17,799 - Running it... - running it. 713 00:35:17,801 --> 00:35:21,539 Uh, I got that he was between 55 and 60 years old. 714 00:35:21,541 --> 00:35:28,278 His moods seemed to be very drastic ups and downs, 715 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,546 ups and downs. 716 00:35:29,548 --> 00:35:31,515 And he's still like that. 717 00:35:31,517 --> 00:35:35,122 Well, it makes me think of the guy Henry Hover 718 00:35:35,124 --> 00:35:36,522 that originally built this place. 719 00:35:36,524 --> 00:35:39,590 Now, he was a hard worker, he was a workaholic. 720 00:35:39,592 --> 00:35:40,859 He was a farmer. 721 00:35:40,861 --> 00:35:43,564 In 1880, he started buying little pieces of land. 722 00:35:43,566 --> 00:35:47,868 Took him 17 years to buy the property and build this hotel, 723 00:35:47,870 --> 00:35:49,437 which was his dream. 724 00:35:51,173 --> 00:35:54,075 I have the only known photo of this guy, 725 00:35:54,077 --> 00:35:55,543 and it's not a very good one. 726 00:35:58,013 --> 00:36:00,415 You mentioned he was an emotional wreck. 727 00:36:00,417 --> 00:36:02,719 Well, he lost his son Ira at the age of 6 728 00:36:02,721 --> 00:36:05,090 from unknown causes from what we can tell. 729 00:36:05,092 --> 00:36:07,360 1901, his wife lost a baby boy at birth, 730 00:36:07,362 --> 00:36:10,664 and then in 1902, the biggest tragedy happened 731 00:36:10,666 --> 00:36:15,271 to this guy, his 3-year-old son, Elmer, fell off a bag of beans. 732 00:36:15,273 --> 00:36:17,337 He was playing in the hotel, 733 00:36:17,339 --> 00:36:20,271 and the fall broke the poor kid's neck. 734 00:36:20,273 --> 00:36:21,706 And he basically died about 20 minutes later 735 00:36:21,708 --> 00:36:23,106 after they found him. 736 00:36:23,108 --> 00:36:25,108 To make matters worse for this guy, in 1906, 737 00:36:25,110 --> 00:36:27,377 he comes into some hard times financially 738 00:36:27,379 --> 00:36:29,746 and has to sell this place at a great loss. 739 00:36:29,748 --> 00:36:31,949 Now, did you get a good look at the guy? 740 00:36:31,951 --> 00:36:32,916 Yes, I did. 741 00:36:32,918 --> 00:36:35,319 And I had a sketch done of him. 742 00:36:35,321 --> 00:36:36,386 Okay. 743 00:36:41,226 --> 00:36:44,292 Take a look at this. 744 00:36:52,472 --> 00:36:56,111 The sketch looks exactly like this man right here. 745 00:37:00,014 --> 00:37:01,447 Looks just like him. 746 00:37:01,449 --> 00:37:03,817 - This sketch you did looks just like Plu... - Right. 747 00:37:03,819 --> 00:37:05,420 The more I'm looking at it. 748 00:37:05,422 --> 00:37:06,955 Oh, my gosh. 749 00:37:06,957 --> 00:37:08,658 Yeah. It all makes sense. Okay. 750 00:37:26,742 --> 00:37:29,544 - This sketch you did looks just like Plu... - Right. 751 00:37:29,546 --> 00:37:31,444 The more I'm looking at it. 752 00:37:31,446 --> 00:37:32,578 Oh, my gosh. 753 00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:34,410 Yeah. It all makes sense. Okay. 754 00:37:40,717 --> 00:37:43,619 It matches, like, the murder that he did on that guy, 755 00:37:43,621 --> 00:37:45,788 the things he was saying. 756 00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:49,025 Yeah. It totally makes sense. 757 00:37:49,027 --> 00:37:51,459 So do you think this guy Plu 758 00:37:51,461 --> 00:37:54,864 is the guy that you ran into on the second floor? 759 00:37:54,866 --> 00:37:56,097 - Yeah. - Okay. 'Cause it makes sense. 760 00:37:56,099 --> 00:37:58,730 And the second and third floor for sure. Yeah. 761 00:37:58,732 --> 00:38:00,967 So how'd this guy Plu make you think 762 00:38:00,969 --> 00:38:03,369 he was the workaholic on the top floors? 763 00:38:03,371 --> 00:38:06,404 Because there's so much residual information, 764 00:38:06,406 --> 00:38:12,817 I feel like he's able to, you know, almost disguise himself 765 00:38:12,819 --> 00:38:15,351 within all of this information that exists. 766 00:38:15,353 --> 00:38:19,089 The third floor, the second floor, and the underneath, 767 00:38:19,091 --> 00:38:20,389 I think is all the same person. 768 00:38:20,391 --> 00:38:22,256 Okay. So, the guy that you encountered 769 00:38:22,258 --> 00:38:23,421 - that's kicking the fl... - Yeah. 770 00:38:23,423 --> 00:38:26,426 - Making the pipes burst. - Yes. 771 00:38:26,428 --> 00:38:29,029 The aggressive guy on the second floor we think is Plu. 772 00:38:29,031 --> 00:38:30,196 Yeah. 773 00:38:30,198 --> 00:38:31,996 And the third floor guy... Which is Plu. 774 00:38:31,998 --> 00:38:33,763 - Is all the same guy. - Yeah. It's all the same guy. 775 00:38:33,765 --> 00:38:40,836 But now it seems to be getting more physical. 776 00:38:40,838 --> 00:38:43,974 So you think this guy wants people out of here? 777 00:38:43,976 --> 00:38:46,279 Yes. 778 00:38:46,281 --> 00:38:49,750 I see this guy taking pillows 779 00:38:49,752 --> 00:38:51,654 and putting them over living people's faces 780 00:38:51,656 --> 00:38:54,191 and trying to kill them, 781 00:38:54,193 --> 00:38:56,128 but he's made it look like a heart attack 782 00:38:56,130 --> 00:38:57,230 or things like that. 783 00:38:57,232 --> 00:38:58,800 So he's capable of killing living people? 784 00:38:58,802 --> 00:39:00,801 Yes. 785 00:39:00,803 --> 00:39:02,371 He'll, like, target people he doesn't like, 786 00:39:02,373 --> 00:39:05,311 like drug addicts and homosexuals. 787 00:39:08,248 --> 00:39:10,917 You know, Kathy, earlier you mentioned to me that you're gay. 788 00:39:10,919 --> 00:39:12,520 Is it okay if we talk about that? 789 00:39:12,522 --> 00:39:14,889 Yes. 790 00:39:14,891 --> 00:39:18,327 Now, is it bothering you that he might have been targeting you 791 00:39:18,329 --> 00:39:19,329 because of your lifestyle? 792 00:39:19,331 --> 00:39:20,564 Now it is. 793 00:39:20,566 --> 00:39:24,401 I think he was targeting me not only because of that 794 00:39:24,403 --> 00:39:27,337 but also the fact that I was able to connect 795 00:39:27,339 --> 00:39:28,739 with... with the lady, 796 00:39:28,741 --> 00:39:33,645 and so I'm thinking he's like, "Not only is she gay, 797 00:39:33,647 --> 00:39:36,744 but she also can communicate with these other spirits, 798 00:39:36,746 --> 00:39:38,478 and now I'm... I'm threatened." 799 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,113 Dan, when you said it was getting worse here, 800 00:39:41,115 --> 00:39:42,345 you weren't kidding. 801 00:39:48,154 --> 00:39:49,555 Well, Dan, we know one thing for sure. 802 00:39:49,557 --> 00:39:51,456 Kathy was right. This place is dangerous. 803 00:39:51,458 --> 00:39:52,856 But the big question is, 804 00:39:52,858 --> 00:39:55,460 can you make it safe for your employees and your guests? 805 00:39:55,462 --> 00:39:57,196 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to my partner, Amy. 806 00:39:59,531 --> 00:40:01,365 The first concern I have 807 00:40:01,367 --> 00:40:06,637 is that I think some of the activity might get... bad, 808 00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:11,172 and I don't think he's going to be happy about the fact 809 00:40:11,174 --> 00:40:14,334 that all his cards are on the table. 810 00:40:14,336 --> 00:40:21,669 I am very nervous about how he's going to react, 811 00:40:21,671 --> 00:40:25,671 so I definitely would suggest that people not stay here 812 00:40:25,673 --> 00:40:29,109 until it can be dealt with. 813 00:40:29,111 --> 00:40:30,512 I'm certainly shaken. 814 00:40:32,478 --> 00:40:34,476 All right. So how do we get rid of this [bleep] 815 00:40:34,478 --> 00:40:39,346 It needs to be, like, a massive hit against him. 816 00:40:39,348 --> 00:40:43,615 I would like there to be a psychic knower 817 00:40:43,617 --> 00:40:46,950 to come with two male mediums, 818 00:40:46,952 --> 00:40:50,517 and they all need to work at the same time. 819 00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:53,419 The psychic knower is going to be taking care 820 00:40:53,421 --> 00:40:55,187 of the residual that's here, 821 00:40:55,189 --> 00:40:58,187 and the mediums are going to be dealing 822 00:40:58,189 --> 00:41:01,122 with the conscious dead that are here, 823 00:41:01,124 --> 00:41:02,557 and there's a lot. 824 00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:06,228 And I want two badass male mediums, 825 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:07,896 very aggressive, very strong. 826 00:41:07,898 --> 00:41:08,930 Why? 827 00:41:08,932 --> 00:41:11,595 He'll get intimidated a little 828 00:41:11,597 --> 00:41:13,927 and he needs to be intimidated. 829 00:41:13,929 --> 00:41:16,964 Also, I don't want any other living people in the building 830 00:41:16,966 --> 00:41:18,732 when they're doing this, 831 00:41:18,734 --> 00:41:20,466 'cause I also feel that they could be attacked. 832 00:41:22,867 --> 00:41:24,332 All right. 833 00:41:24,334 --> 00:41:26,234 And now, once that's done, the things will be okay here? 834 00:41:26,236 --> 00:41:30,874 It'll be very quiet, void of everything. 835 00:41:30,876 --> 00:41:33,877 It'll feel very, very, very different. 836 00:41:33,879 --> 00:41:36,011 I'm just... I'm... I'm thinking 837 00:41:36,013 --> 00:41:38,815 that I'm gonna miss this place for a while. 838 00:41:38,817 --> 00:41:41,955 Once this [bleep] out of here, she'll be safe to come back. 839 00:41:41,957 --> 00:41:43,722 - Yeah. - Okay. 840 00:41:43,724 --> 00:41:45,156 Yes. 841 00:41:45,158 --> 00:41:46,858 Thank you. 842 00:41:46,860 --> 00:41:49,664 So you're gonna take our advice, I assume. 843 00:41:49,666 --> 00:41:50,831 DAN: Absolutely. 844 00:41:50,833 --> 00:41:52,331 Can't wait to get rid of him. 845 00:41:52,333 --> 00:41:55,169 AMY: It won't be easy removing the dead man 846 00:41:55,171 --> 00:41:57,440 wreaking havoc on this restaurant/hotel, 847 00:41:57,442 --> 00:42:00,042 but I believe if Dan follows my advice, 848 00:42:00,044 --> 00:42:01,910 the evil here will be banished, 849 00:42:01,912 --> 00:42:05,249 keeping Dan and his employees and guests safe from harm. 850 00:42:05,299 --> 00:42:09,849 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 64137

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