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They're acting like they're still alive.
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Whatever's going on here
really needs to stop.
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It was a devil or a monster.
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"I have seen a ghost."
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There's no question in my mind
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that there's something evil there.
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The dead don't rest here.
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His body was completely
mutilated and half-eaten.
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I don't know how they're
not killing each other.
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"You're mine. You can't escape."
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My name is Amy Allan.
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[Crying] What's happening?
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I see dead people.
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It seems like a devil.
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I speak to dead people.
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He's pissed off.
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And they speak to me.
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I felt real fear.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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I think she's being murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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Serial killer pops in my head.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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Nobody believes me.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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- Do you think there's still bodies there?
- I do.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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You got problems. I got news for you.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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This is our house...
whether they like it or not.
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Or time to get out.
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This is their house, the house of the dead.
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I'm in Warsaw, Indiana.
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It's about 40 miles west of Fort Wayne.
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I got a call from a guy
who runs a hotel in town.
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Now, he says he was a lifelong skeptic
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until he bought the place
about eight years ago.
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He says activity's so bad,
he's losing employees and customers.
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It's his dream business,
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but he says if me and
Amy can't help him out,
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he might have to shut the place down.
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MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives,
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I look for anything that
might influence her findings.
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This hotel has a lot of
artwork and historic photos
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that have to be covered or removed.
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When I'm finished,
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the location will be
ready for tonight's walk.
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AMY: There's a lot of dead people here.
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They're acting like they're still alive.
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I'm talking, like, about 50 people here.
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Do you know if these
dead come inside at all?
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Yes, they do.
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They,
um... they can come and go as they please.
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The dead don't rest here.
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STEVE: Well, Dan, I'm glad I'm here.
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Um, when we spoke on the phone,
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you sounded like you're at the point
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where you're almost ready
to close this place down
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because of the activity.
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We're having trouble
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with employees being scared at night.
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- Okay.
- I've had several quit.
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Customers not staying.
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So, give me an idea
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of what people are experiencing here.
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- What's going on?
- Knocking on the door.
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Things moving off the shelves.
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I've heard of people getting touched.
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This seems to be worse
the last couple years.
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Now, how long have you had this place?
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Eight years.
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This is a three-story building.
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Now, I see the restaurant
here on the first floor.
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What else you got going on?
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On the second floor, we have a sports bar,
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and on the third floor,
we have seven hotel rooms.
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Okay. So now, when you bought it,
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did you know it was haunted?
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I did not.
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I dismissed a lot of it.
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What changed your mind?
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I was standing at the edge of the bar,
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happened to look down at the floor,
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and I seen a black fog go across the floor
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and then just come up and then schoo,
just gone.
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What do you think's going on?
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Not sure 100%, but the last two years,
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there's a lot of... lot of bad things.
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Sounds like you could lose the business.
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Maybe.
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Met a lot of people here,
lot of good friends,
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- like to keep 'em here.
- Right.
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Okay.
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What people are seeing
is kind of like a ghost
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but with a black sheet on it.
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Everybody thinks that it
was a devil or a monster,
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but it's a person.
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He goes under, uh, in the ground,
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and he's, like,
always kicking, uh, the floor.
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Then he was showing me, like,
spinning the structure.
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Obviously it doesn't spin,
but I think structurally, you know,
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it has issues all the time
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because he's kind of [bleep]
with the whole thing.
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This thing that's under the ground
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causes a lot of the stuff
that's happening here.
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And I would think that most people
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probably are also thinking
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that there's some kind of poltergeist,
but it's not.
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He's in his little hole,
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and he projects his energy
and affects the surroundings.
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What's going on in here?
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We have a lot of things
moving around in this kitchen.
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We're concerned about that.
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For example,
the broom going across the room.
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The bartender...
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There was nobody in the kitchen at the time,
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and the bartender heard a lot of noise...
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Okay.
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Came out and saw the broom
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is in the middle of the floor here,
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and she knew that the last
time she walked out there
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she saw it on the wall back there.
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Okay. Nobody was in the kitchen?
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- Nobody was in the kitchen.
- Okay.
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So now,
has anything else happened in this place?
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Yes. The day that I purchased the building,
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I walked through the door,
walked past the dishwasher
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and stopped for some reason
and took a glance at it,
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and it just squirted me in
the face twice real quick.
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We had some, um,
more issues with plumbing with faucets
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going on and off.
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Lot of things that seem, like,
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to try to disrupt the
business it seems like.
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He has a lot of energy.
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It'll affect everything structurally,
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you know, like, water, uh, plumbing.
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It's a lot of him. A lot of him.
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Can you describe what he looks like?
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And he's, like, squished himself out,
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'cause he's in the ground, you know,
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and, uh, just has his legs,
which are always kicking.
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It's very strange.
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So, Leslie,
thanks for taking the time to talk to me.
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You've been working here for a while?
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About 17 years. Bartender and waitress.
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I've heard about all the
things that are happening here.
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Um, what about yourself? Any experiences?
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Quite a few.
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I had somebody tap me on the shoulder.
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Okay. Where were you?
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I was at the computer station.
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No one was around me.
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You're sure about that?
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Yeah. There was nobody there.
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And anything else?
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I was leaving one night
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and saw someone standing on the third floor
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in the window in the hallway.
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Okay. Was it a guest?
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No. There were no guests that night.
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I'm the last one here,
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and I know if the hotel
rooms are rented or not
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because we're the check-in.
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Okay. Describe the man to me.
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Tall and broad-shouldered, dark suit.
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A suit?
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Yeah, like, old-fashioned suit, bowler hat.
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Okay.
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Now, Leslie, you've been here...
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What? Almost 17 years.
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I mean, how you dealing with this?
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I mean, why do you stay?
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I love the place,
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but if I felt a definite threat, I would...
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I would probably not be here.
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There's a male here.
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He is a workaholic.
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He's always moving around.
He's always working.
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Uh, I think that they do see him.
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Mostly it's just solid,
normal-looking person.
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I think the,
uh... workaholic doesn't like people up here.
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He's mad.
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Came right to the door and was like, "Aah!"
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Oh, lordy.
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He hates this [bleep]
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Oh, damn. Oh, geez.
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Okay. He's freaking the [bleep] out.
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He's yelling, "Get out of here!"
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You know, "Leave me alone!"
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He invokes such rage in people.
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I don't know how they're
not killing each other.
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Now, how long did you work here?
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About four years. I bartended.
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I was talking to Danny.
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He said a lot of the employees
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quit over the stuff that happened here.
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What was the feeling like
for you when you worked here?
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I would experience fear
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almost as if I was a child again
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locked in a dark bedroom
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with demons under my bed
and monsters in my closet.
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That's how bad it was?
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What about experiences? Have you had any?
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Yes.
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When I was closing the bar,
I witnessed a shadow
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that actually resembled
a man directly behind me,
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and it was, like, 7, 8 foot tall.
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What did you do?
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I was in shock.
I didn't really know what to do,
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and from that point,
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- I was just, like, "I have seen a ghost."
- Geez.
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- You have anything else?
- Yes.
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I was working in here,
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and I was pushing in the barstools,
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and I got to about this barstool right here
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and as I went to push it in,
it almost just moved for me.
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Show me what happened when
the chair moved on you.
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Okay.
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I put my foot on it and grabbed here,
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and then I went to push it,
and as I went to push it,
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it was almost, like,
it just moved for me so gracefully.
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All right. Now, these are heavy.
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They're not...
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Right.
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These aren't light.
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I mean, you got to push it.
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I can't even try to debunk that.
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I just really feel like
there's something here.
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AMY: The workaholic, he's pissed off.
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I mean, he's doing things with the chairs.
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[Chuckles]
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I feel like he has pushed
living people definitely.
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You know, he's like, "This is my space."
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"Get out of the way, 'cause here I come."
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And definitely they got to
feel this [bleep] energy,
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like, it is so intense.
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It is so directed.
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I just feel like massive amounts of tension,
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the heart, you know, just [bleep] pound...
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Like, I'd almost think some people,
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they can't [bleep] breathe here.
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STEVE: Now, Kathy, I understand
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that you actually worked at
the hotel for a little bit.
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- Is that right?
- KATHY: Yes.
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I worked there for about six months,
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but I've been a customer for about 15 years.
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Now, did you stop working there
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because of what was going on?
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That was a very big part of it.
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Yeah. I read the signs.
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You know, somebody was warning me
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about something, so, um... Okay.
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Now,
what kind of things are we talking about?
259
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When I was a patron sitting
at the bar one evening,
260
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um, I turned,
and I saw two apparitions in booth one.
261
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Okay. How do you know they were apparitions?
262
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I said to the waitress,
"You've got people in booth one?"
263
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And she turned and said,
"Kath, there's nobody there."
264
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So it couldn't have been
265
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a mirror reflection of anything?
266
00:13:10,139 --> 00:13:11,572
No. There's no mirror anywhere near it.
267
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- Near it.
- Nope.
268
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Anything else?
269
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One full moon night, the bar was closed,
270
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and looked up, and on the third floor,
271
00:13:18,884 --> 00:13:21,522
I saw a man in the middle window,
272
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and it was like he was looking
up and down the street.
273
00:13:25,259 --> 00:13:26,858
You know,
you're the second person to tell me that.
274
00:13:26,860 --> 00:13:28,058
What'd he look like?
275
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He had a fedora,
so he kind of resembled a gangster.
276
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- Really?
- Yeah.
277
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Would you recognize him
278
00:13:35,031 --> 00:13:36,896
if you saw him in a photo or a sketch?
279
00:13:36,898 --> 00:13:38,264
I believe so. Yes. Mm-hmm.
280
00:13:38,266 --> 00:13:39,500
Anything else?
281
00:13:39,502 --> 00:13:42,337
When I was working and
I was doing the dishes,
282
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- I was by the, uh, sink...
- Okay.
283
00:13:45,643 --> 00:13:47,473
And I felt a tug on my apron.
284
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Was anybody walking by you at the time?
285
00:13:49,041 --> 00:13:50,303
No. No.
286
00:13:50,305 --> 00:13:53,302
'Cause I looked around,
and there was nobody around me.
287
00:13:53,304 --> 00:13:55,771
So you've had a lot of experiences there.
288
00:13:55,773 --> 00:13:57,540
What do you think is going on in this place?
289
00:13:57,542 --> 00:13:58,707
There's no question in my mind
290
00:13:58,709 --> 00:14:00,608
that there's something evil there.
291
00:14:03,176 --> 00:14:05,913
The workaholic likes this floor.
292
00:14:05,915 --> 00:14:09,447
He is, like,
putting pillows on people's faces.
293
00:14:13,953 --> 00:14:18,458
He does not like, um,
drug addicts and whores.
294
00:14:18,460 --> 00:14:23,966
His thing of, you know,
getting the people [bleep] up,
295
00:14:23,968 --> 00:14:26,199
and he's smothering 'em.
296
00:14:26,201 --> 00:14:27,334
He's trying to kill 'em
297
00:14:27,336 --> 00:14:29,371
with the [bleep] smothering 'em to death.
298
00:14:29,373 --> 00:14:31,575
Somehow made it look like a heart attack.
299
00:14:34,778 --> 00:14:39,751
Makes me feel very
uncomfortable and panicked.
300
00:14:39,753 --> 00:14:48,327
There's some talk he may have killed someone
301
00:14:48,329 --> 00:14:50,361
after he is dead.
302
00:15:06,224 --> 00:15:08,359
STEVE: Dan and his
employees didn't know much
303
00:15:08,361 --> 00:15:10,229
about the history of the Barbee Hotel,
304
00:15:10,231 --> 00:15:12,534
so I'm at the local library
to see what I can find.
305
00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:17,735
Searching through old records,
I find a man named Joseph Plu
306
00:15:17,737 --> 00:15:20,904
who used to live on my client's
property in the late 1800s.
307
00:15:20,906 --> 00:15:23,641
Turns out he was accused
of a brutal double murder
308
00:15:23,643 --> 00:15:24,975
at his neighbor's house.
309
00:15:28,912 --> 00:15:31,016
I've called on my old friend Butch Barile.
310
00:15:31,018 --> 00:15:32,517
He's a local retired detective.
311
00:15:32,519 --> 00:15:34,484
He said he'd dig into the case for me
312
00:15:34,486 --> 00:15:36,318
and tell me exactly what happened.
313
00:15:42,022 --> 00:15:44,752
STEVE: February of 1887,
I come across an article,
314
00:15:44,754 --> 00:15:47,751
this kid Joseph Plu who got
charged with a double murder
315
00:15:47,753 --> 00:15:50,021
right on the property I'm investigating.
316
00:15:50,023 --> 00:15:51,289
What were you able to find out?
317
00:15:51,291 --> 00:15:55,623
Joseph Plu lived on your client's land
318
00:15:55,625 --> 00:16:00,896
with his grandparents
next to a Henry Dunham,
319
00:16:00,898 --> 00:16:03,563
who had hired Joseph Plu
320
00:16:03,565 --> 00:16:05,798
to work and help him on his farm.
321
00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,167
So, what kind of a crime
scene are we looking at?
322
00:16:07,169 --> 00:16:08,167
What happened?
323
00:16:08,169 --> 00:16:09,467
So, it was, uh...
324
00:16:09,469 --> 00:16:12,103
it was a pretty grisly crime scene.
325
00:16:12,105 --> 00:16:17,378
Henry, he had a 20-month-old baby,
a daughter,
326
00:16:17,380 --> 00:16:20,913
and her throat was slit ear to ear.
327
00:16:20,915 --> 00:16:22,951
The other victim was Henry himself.
328
00:16:22,953 --> 00:16:24,219
Okay.
329
00:16:24,221 --> 00:16:28,023
He was found out in the yard
with several stab wounds
330
00:16:28,025 --> 00:16:32,159
and, uh, it's thought that hogs got to him.
331
00:16:32,161 --> 00:16:33,996
His body was completely mutilated
332
00:16:33,998 --> 00:16:35,498
and half-eaten, literally.
333
00:16:38,535 --> 00:16:42,307
I see, like, somebody's face being [bleep]
334
00:16:42,309 --> 00:16:45,309
I feel like it's a male.
335
00:16:45,311 --> 00:16:49,714
He's, like, very much in pain right now,
336
00:16:49,716 --> 00:16:51,716
and he can't breathe.
337
00:16:51,718 --> 00:16:54,186
Ow!
338
00:16:55,822 --> 00:17:01,792
Something... got hit in the head,
maybe, here.
339
00:17:01,794 --> 00:17:04,262
I know there's a few people.
340
00:17:06,332 --> 00:17:07,500
There's more than one.
341
00:17:07,502 --> 00:17:10,671
I think he's just in his death state.
342
00:17:10,673 --> 00:17:14,375
There's so much pain in my head.
343
00:17:14,377 --> 00:17:15,945
Oh, my God.
344
00:17:17,415 --> 00:17:18,750
So what happens next?
345
00:17:18,752 --> 00:17:21,887
A neighbor happened to be
walking near the property,
346
00:17:21,889 --> 00:17:23,654
found him laying there,
347
00:17:23,656 --> 00:17:27,023
went inside the house and found Lucy Dunham,
348
00:17:27,025 --> 00:17:31,065
Henry's wife,
who was just barely clinging to life.
349
00:17:31,067 --> 00:17:33,732
She also had several stab wounds
350
00:17:33,734 --> 00:17:35,634
and... and severe head injuries.
351
00:17:35,636 --> 00:17:36,669
So now, at the time,
352
00:17:36,671 --> 00:17:38,438
Plu lived on my client's property,
353
00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,474
and I'm assuming now that
'cause she survived,
354
00:17:40,476 --> 00:17:42,343
she identifies him as the perp.
355
00:17:42,345 --> 00:17:45,549
She identifies him, but also she knew
356
00:17:45,551 --> 00:17:48,551
there were two other people there,
357
00:17:48,553 --> 00:17:50,954
but she couldn't identify either one of 'em.
358
00:17:50,956 --> 00:17:53,191
Now, there's a lot of rage in this case,
359
00:17:53,193 --> 00:17:55,861
and what would motivate this kid,
Plu, to do this?
360
00:17:55,863 --> 00:17:58,196
My understanding is that
there was a lot of animosity
361
00:17:58,198 --> 00:17:59,431
between him and the wife.
362
00:17:59,433 --> 00:18:01,799
- Okay.
- They'd have some confrontations
363
00:18:01,801 --> 00:18:02,933
and some problems.
364
00:18:02,935 --> 00:18:05,234
- He didn't really care for her.
- Okay.
365
00:18:05,236 --> 00:18:07,836
In fact, I think they'd had some problems
366
00:18:07,838 --> 00:18:10,871
with Mr. Dunham arguing over,
you know, over pay.
367
00:18:10,873 --> 00:18:14,475
Joseph Plu, he had some... some cash on him.
368
00:18:14,477 --> 00:18:17,346
He had $90, my understanding was,
369
00:18:17,348 --> 00:18:21,282
and I think some of it
had bloodstains on it.
370
00:18:21,284 --> 00:18:22,687
Okay.
371
00:18:22,689 --> 00:18:25,155
You and I both know that this
is not the type of murder,
372
00:18:25,157 --> 00:18:27,489
especially with this baby
that you commit over $85...
373
00:18:27,491 --> 00:18:28,792
No... or whatever money.
374
00:18:28,794 --> 00:18:31,264
No, not at all.
375
00:18:31,266 --> 00:18:34,332
It was, uh, some, you know,
severe hatred involved.
376
00:18:34,334 --> 00:18:36,702
Wow. Okay.
377
00:18:36,704 --> 00:18:40,341
There's a dead lady.
378
00:18:40,343 --> 00:18:43,310
She's, like, hanging on.
379
00:18:43,312 --> 00:18:45,547
She's, like, hanging on to my leg.
380
00:18:45,549 --> 00:18:49,253
She's, like, being dragged across the floor.
381
00:18:49,255 --> 00:18:52,992
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
382
00:18:52,994 --> 00:18:55,160
She, like...
383
00:18:55,162 --> 00:18:56,896
I don't know what the
[bleep] happened to her, man.
384
00:18:56,898 --> 00:18:58,264
She got [bleep]
385
00:18:58,266 --> 00:19:00,334
I think that somebody killed her.
386
00:19:04,273 --> 00:19:08,743
There's a couple of men around her.
387
00:19:08,745 --> 00:19:09,809
I feel them.
388
00:19:09,811 --> 00:19:13,614
She knew one for sure.
389
00:19:13,616 --> 00:19:16,318
Why is my friend doing this?
390
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:22,088
Someone says it's a brutal
assault with a little knife.
391
00:19:25,125 --> 00:19:27,494
I feel like someone got stabbed.
392
00:19:28,863 --> 00:19:30,296
Uh...
393
00:19:32,565 --> 00:19:34,631
Okay. So now, Plu gets charged.
394
00:19:34,633 --> 00:19:37,199
Does he get convicted? What's the story?
395
00:19:37,201 --> 00:19:39,235
Plu does get charged and gets convicted,
396
00:19:39,237 --> 00:19:42,508
and he, uh... he takes a life sentence.
397
00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:43,676
All right.
398
00:19:43,678 --> 00:19:46,444
So, does this kid end up
dying in jail or what?
399
00:19:46,446 --> 00:19:50,917
No. So, what happens is he
ends up serving 29 years.
400
00:19:50,919 --> 00:19:55,457
Henry Dunham's wife comes back and says
401
00:19:55,459 --> 00:19:58,860
that she can't confirm for
sure that he did do it.
402
00:19:58,862 --> 00:20:00,230
After 29 years.
403
00:20:00,232 --> 00:20:03,767
After 29 years,
so he gets a pardon and he gets out.
404
00:20:03,769 --> 00:20:04,967
Wow.
405
00:20:04,969 --> 00:20:08,907
And this is Plu 29 years later
406
00:20:08,909 --> 00:20:10,510
when he gets released.
407
00:20:10,512 --> 00:20:13,414
Now, how old is Plu when he gets out?
408
00:20:13,416 --> 00:20:14,347
He's 53.
409
00:20:14,349 --> 00:20:16,551
All right. So he get's pardoned.
410
00:20:16,553 --> 00:20:19,323
Do they look at anybody else as a suspect?
411
00:20:19,325 --> 00:20:20,523
No.
412
00:20:20,525 --> 00:20:24,127
It's still, for all practical purposes...
413
00:20:24,129 --> 00:20:25,730
- Unsolved?
- ...unsolved.
414
00:20:28,701 --> 00:20:33,004
This dead guy,
someone's calling him derogatory names.
415
00:20:33,006 --> 00:20:34,639
MATTHEW: What do they say?
416
00:20:34,641 --> 00:20:36,876
They're saying that he's gay and stuff.
417
00:20:36,878 --> 00:20:40,114
What are you shaking your head about?
418
00:20:40,116 --> 00:20:43,920
I don't understand how this
could be such a violent place.
419
00:20:47,188 --> 00:20:49,056
It's too much.
420
00:20:49,058 --> 00:20:53,196
Makes me feel very
uncomfortable and panicked.
421
00:20:53,198 --> 00:20:58,036
I feel very, very sad, like I want to cry.
422
00:21:15,998 --> 00:21:17,832
One of the first things I do on a case
423
00:21:17,834 --> 00:21:19,467
is reach out to local historians.
424
00:21:19,469 --> 00:21:23,972
Usually I don't turn up too much,
but in this case,
425
00:21:23,974 --> 00:21:25,741
a local genealogist tells me
426
00:21:25,743 --> 00:21:28,977
that the man that built
Dan's hotel has a wild story
427
00:21:28,979 --> 00:21:30,343
and I'm definitely gonna want to hear it.
428
00:21:38,117 --> 00:21:39,482
STEVE: Well, Beth, thanks for meeting me.
429
00:21:39,484 --> 00:21:40,584
I appreciate that.
430
00:21:40,586 --> 00:21:42,187
You mentioned on the phone
431
00:21:42,189 --> 00:21:44,654
that the guy that originally built the hotel
432
00:21:44,656 --> 00:21:46,291
on the property I'm investigating
433
00:21:46,293 --> 00:21:48,028
had an interesting story behind him?
434
00:21:48,030 --> 00:21:49,698
Yes. His name was Henry Hover.
435
00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:51,567
He was a farmer.
436
00:21:51,569 --> 00:21:55,505
This is a photo that we
found when he was farming.
437
00:21:55,507 --> 00:21:59,045
He... you can see he's at
the end of the photo here.
438
00:21:59,047 --> 00:22:02,115
Okay. So, how does he go from being a farmer
439
00:22:02,117 --> 00:22:03,585
to building a hotel?
440
00:22:03,587 --> 00:22:08,291
He started amassing that property in 1880,
441
00:22:08,293 --> 00:22:10,993
and it took him 17 years,
442
00:22:10,995 --> 00:22:14,495
but in 1897, he got the hotel.
443
00:22:14,497 --> 00:22:18,264
These are the photos of
the hotel that we have.
444
00:22:18,266 --> 00:22:21,968
He... he just stuck to his vision.
445
00:22:21,970 --> 00:22:24,169
Okay. So now he has his dream hotel.
446
00:22:24,171 --> 00:22:25,270
What happens?
447
00:22:25,272 --> 00:22:26,739
Does he live there happily ever after?
448
00:22:26,741 --> 00:22:27,942
I mean, what's the story?
449
00:22:27,944 --> 00:22:31,112
No. Henry just has one
tragedy after another.
450
00:22:31,114 --> 00:22:33,613
1897, the year the hotel's built,
451
00:22:33,615 --> 00:22:35,917
he loses a son Ira who's sick.
452
00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:37,751
He dies of unknown causes.
453
00:22:37,753 --> 00:22:41,958
In 1901,
his wife loses a child in childbirth.
454
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,524
The biggest tragedy happened in 1902,
455
00:22:44,526 --> 00:22:47,193
when he lost his 3-year-old son, Elmer,
456
00:22:47,195 --> 00:22:49,396
to an accident.
457
00:22:49,398 --> 00:22:52,966
Elmer is playing in the hotel.
458
00:22:52,968 --> 00:22:54,868
They work there. They live there.
459
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:57,203
He's trying to climb on top of a bean sack
460
00:22:57,205 --> 00:22:59,273
to get up to the counter.
461
00:22:59,275 --> 00:23:03,144
His foot slips and his
little chin hits the counter,
462
00:23:03,146 --> 00:23:04,643
and broke his neck.
463
00:23:04,645 --> 00:23:07,879
Within 20 minutes, little Elmer is gone.
464
00:23:07,881 --> 00:23:10,451
So what happens after all this?
465
00:23:10,453 --> 00:23:11,986
He runs into financial trouble,
466
00:23:11,988 --> 00:23:15,757
and in 1906, sells the hotel for a loss.
467
00:23:15,759 --> 00:23:18,629
Okay.
468
00:23:18,631 --> 00:23:20,797
He dies at the age of 68
469
00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:24,633
after being confined in bed
for a year from tuberculosis.
470
00:23:24,635 --> 00:23:26,469
- You're kidding me?
- Nope.
471
00:23:26,471 --> 00:23:29,272
So what happened with the hotel?
472
00:23:29,274 --> 00:23:31,510
It burned down in the 1920s,
473
00:23:31,512 --> 00:23:34,813
and the hotel you see today is a rebuild,
474
00:23:34,815 --> 00:23:37,383
but it looks very similar to the original.
475
00:23:41,992 --> 00:23:47,862
I want to say that he... owned this place
476
00:23:47,864 --> 00:23:55,565
or was in charge of this place,
um, or thinks he is still.
477
00:23:57,935 --> 00:23:59,235
MATTHEW: The workaholic guy?
478
00:23:59,237 --> 00:24:00,703
Yes.
479
00:24:00,705 --> 00:24:02,472
Do you know anything about
what he was like in life?
480
00:24:02,474 --> 00:24:05,777
He's, like, between 55 and 60.
481
00:24:05,779 --> 00:24:10,283
He came from a... a hardworking background,
482
00:24:10,285 --> 00:24:16,661
and he feels he did well
until this happened.
483
00:24:16,663 --> 00:24:22,069
He's still acting like he is working.
484
00:24:22,071 --> 00:24:26,041
He just goes and he just
does what he did every day.
485
00:24:26,043 --> 00:24:29,146
That's what makes him feel comfortable.
486
00:24:35,385 --> 00:24:38,422
Beth mentioned that Dan's
building ended up burning down.
487
00:24:38,424 --> 00:24:41,258
Obviously,
I need to find out exactly what happened.
488
00:24:41,260 --> 00:24:44,493
I'm heading over to meet
with a local firefighter.
489
00:24:44,495 --> 00:24:48,167
He says the cause of the fire
is still a mystery to this day.
490
00:24:54,675 --> 00:24:56,376
STEVE: Well, Chief, thanks for meeting me.
491
00:24:56,378 --> 00:24:57,411
I appreciate it.
492
00:24:57,413 --> 00:24:59,079
So now, the expert I talked to said
493
00:24:59,081 --> 00:25:01,545
that the hotel I'm investigating
burnt down in the '20s,
494
00:25:01,547 --> 00:25:03,780
- and you said it was true.
- Absolutely.
495
00:25:03,782 --> 00:25:05,950
August 18, 1921,
496
00:25:05,952 --> 00:25:08,285
the fire completely destroyed the hotel.
497
00:25:08,287 --> 00:25:09,452
Okay.
498
00:25:09,454 --> 00:25:11,719
This is one of the articles.
499
00:25:11,721 --> 00:25:13,255
What was the story with it?
500
00:25:13,257 --> 00:25:15,496
The fire started in the attic area
501
00:25:15,498 --> 00:25:16,764
and then it went
502
00:25:16,766 --> 00:25:19,535
and it slowly started to
burn across the attic.
503
00:25:19,537 --> 00:25:22,238
Okay. Now, what about casualties, anything?
504
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,538
It's my understanding
505
00:25:23,540 --> 00:25:25,741
that there was roughly 50 people there
506
00:25:25,743 --> 00:25:27,946
when the fire started, and not a one of them
507
00:25:27,948 --> 00:25:30,082
suffered an injury or a death.
508
00:25:30,084 --> 00:25:31,715
Okay.
So, they were able to get everybody out...
509
00:25:31,717 --> 00:25:33,184
- Yes...
- before the building collapsed.
510
00:25:33,186 --> 00:25:34,486
All right. So, do we know, Chief,
511
00:25:34,488 --> 00:25:35,821
exactly what even started the fire?
512
00:25:35,823 --> 00:25:38,790
The articles I've read said
spontaneous combustion.
513
00:25:38,792 --> 00:25:41,393
There was no electrical wiring in the attic,
514
00:25:41,395 --> 00:25:42,694
so they ruled that out
515
00:25:42,696 --> 00:25:45,097
and they went to spontaneous combustion.
516
00:25:45,099 --> 00:25:46,865
All right. So, in your opinion,
though, what do you think?
517
00:25:46,867 --> 00:25:48,367
I don't know that we'll ever know.
518
00:25:50,570 --> 00:25:57,109
There's been a lot of
things that have happened.
519
00:25:57,111 --> 00:25:59,712
It's kind of crazy.
520
00:25:59,714 --> 00:26:03,882
There was a fire, but I don't know
521
00:26:03,884 --> 00:26:07,717
if it was actually this structure
522
00:26:07,719 --> 00:26:09,352
or if there was another structure.
523
00:26:11,558 --> 00:26:15,325
It's residual, but it happened.
524
00:26:24,964 --> 00:26:27,566
I saw several dead people on my walk,
525
00:26:27,568 --> 00:26:30,773
but the workaholic is
the most advanced entity.
526
00:26:30,775 --> 00:26:32,241
I'm meeting with an artist
527
00:26:32,243 --> 00:26:34,342
to describe how he appeared in life.
528
00:26:36,245 --> 00:26:42,288
He's probably between
55 and 60 years of age.
529
00:26:42,290 --> 00:26:45,860
He has a very thick, full head of gray hair.
530
00:26:49,098 --> 00:26:52,066
His nose has been probably
broken a few times.
531
00:27:00,509 --> 00:27:02,279
Yes. That's what I saw.
532
00:27:23,336 --> 00:27:26,303
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
533
00:27:26,305 --> 00:27:29,341
we're ready to reveal our
findings to each other
534
00:27:29,343 --> 00:27:31,708
and our clients for the first time.
535
00:27:31,710 --> 00:27:34,042
Well, Amy, I'd like you to meet Dan.
536
00:27:34,044 --> 00:27:36,112
He is the owner of this restaurant/hotel
537
00:27:36,114 --> 00:27:37,448
for about eight years now.
538
00:27:37,450 --> 00:27:39,982
Activity here is bad and it's getting worse,
539
00:27:39,984 --> 00:27:44,148
and it's hurting his business
and if it keeps going like this,
540
00:27:44,150 --> 00:27:46,115
he's gonna have to shut the place down.
541
00:27:46,117 --> 00:27:48,484
Leslie here has worked here for 17 years?
542
00:27:48,486 --> 00:27:50,386
She's had ton of experiences,
543
00:27:50,388 --> 00:27:53,123
and I kind of think she's
numb to it at this point.
544
00:27:53,125 --> 00:27:55,353
Now, Kathy lives directly across the street.
545
00:27:55,355 --> 00:27:56,787
She's been here for 15 years.
546
00:27:56,789 --> 00:28:00,458
She actually worked in the
restaurant for six months.
547
00:28:00,460 --> 00:28:03,093
She thinks that whatever's here is evil,
548
00:28:03,095 --> 00:28:06,061
and that Dan and his
staff could be in danger.
549
00:28:06,063 --> 00:28:08,399
So, now that Amy knows a little
bit about what's going on,
550
00:28:08,401 --> 00:28:11,036
I'm gonna have her talk about her walk.
551
00:28:15,241 --> 00:28:17,479
So one of the first things that I got
552
00:28:17,481 --> 00:28:19,351
when I got out of the vehicle
553
00:28:19,353 --> 00:28:21,087
was that there had been a fire here.
554
00:28:21,089 --> 00:28:23,722
I was smelling it and tasting it,
555
00:28:23,724 --> 00:28:27,194
and I felt like people were
breathing in the smoke,
556
00:28:27,196 --> 00:28:29,795
and I didn't know if it was this structure
557
00:28:29,797 --> 00:28:31,195
or a structure nearby.
558
00:28:31,197 --> 00:28:33,796
Well, you hit that pretty much on the head.
559
00:28:33,798 --> 00:28:37,199
Now, the hotel opened in 1897.
560
00:28:37,201 --> 00:28:39,568
It was opened up as the Hotel Ormond.
561
00:28:39,570 --> 00:28:43,703
But back on August 18, 1921,
the building caught on fire.
562
00:28:43,705 --> 00:28:45,537
It started in the attic.
563
00:28:45,539 --> 00:28:47,741
They tried dousing it out,
but you know what?
564
00:28:47,743 --> 00:28:48,642
They had no shot.
565
00:28:48,644 --> 00:28:50,843
Now, nobody died in that fire,
566
00:28:50,845 --> 00:28:54,581
but there were 50 people
staying here at the time,
567
00:28:54,583 --> 00:28:58,746
but they all got out safely,
and I have an article here about it.
568
00:28:58,748 --> 00:29:01,450
Now, two years later, the hotel was rebuilt
569
00:29:01,452 --> 00:29:02,916
and that's the building we're in right now.
570
00:29:02,918 --> 00:29:04,017
That makes sense.
571
00:29:07,825 --> 00:29:10,493
One of the first conscious entities
572
00:29:10,495 --> 00:29:13,563
that I encountered was on the first floor.
573
00:29:13,565 --> 00:29:17,133
Um, so he was really strange,
because what I saw him doing
574
00:29:17,135 --> 00:29:21,038
was, like, burrowing under the ground.
575
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,808
And he's, like,
always kicking, uh, the floor.
576
00:29:26,810 --> 00:29:31,348
Then he was showing me, like,
spinning the structure.
577
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:34,384
I think structurally, you know,
it has issues all the time
578
00:29:34,386 --> 00:29:37,053
because he's kind of [bleep]
with the whole thing.
579
00:29:37,055 --> 00:29:40,122
But what I saw as a direct result of that
580
00:29:40,124 --> 00:29:43,794
was causing issues with, like, plumbing
581
00:29:43,796 --> 00:29:46,965
or electricity or things breaking.
582
00:29:46,967 --> 00:29:49,431
Dan, the first day in this place,
583
00:29:49,433 --> 00:29:52,366
you had issues with the water, right?
584
00:29:52,368 --> 00:29:56,499
DAN: Yes. As I walked in and
walked past the dishwasher,
585
00:29:56,501 --> 00:29:59,037
and stopped and turned and
looked at it for some reason,
586
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:02,142
and, um,
it squirted me right in the face twice.
587
00:30:02,144 --> 00:30:04,411
I mean, you've been here the longest.
588
00:30:04,413 --> 00:30:05,613
Long time.
589
00:30:05,615 --> 00:30:07,783
So, as far as the structural issues,
590
00:30:07,785 --> 00:30:10,287
has this been ongoing?
591
00:30:10,289 --> 00:30:11,621
Yeah.
592
00:30:11,623 --> 00:30:12,689
I mean, some of it you chalk
up to it's an old building.
593
00:30:12,691 --> 00:30:16,625
But we have a lot of electrical glitches
594
00:30:16,627 --> 00:30:17,693
and computer glitches.
595
00:30:17,695 --> 00:30:19,328
That happens a lot.
596
00:30:19,330 --> 00:30:20,496
Interesting.
597
00:30:24,766 --> 00:30:26,635
STEVE: Okay. So what else did you see?
598
00:30:26,637 --> 00:30:28,171
During my walk, I came across
599
00:30:28,173 --> 00:30:29,940
a couple of murder scenes,
600
00:30:29,942 --> 00:30:33,278
and one of them involved
a female in the bar area.
601
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,181
So I walk over there
602
00:30:35,183 --> 00:30:39,819
and this woman, like,
grabbed on to my lower legs
603
00:30:39,821 --> 00:30:42,289
and was, like,
dragging herself on the floor.
604
00:30:42,291 --> 00:30:43,558
She was beaten.
605
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,827
There were three men that
were involved at least.
606
00:30:46,829 --> 00:30:50,869
She knew one of them most certainly.
607
00:30:50,871 --> 00:30:53,338
I kept hearing, like,
while all this chaos is going on,
608
00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:55,539
like, the guys were laughing.
609
00:30:55,541 --> 00:30:57,672
It was excruciatingly painful.
610
00:30:59,373 --> 00:31:01,006
The next murder victim I encountered
611
00:31:01,008 --> 00:31:02,139
was a male outside
612
00:31:02,141 --> 00:31:04,240
who was stuck in his death state.
613
00:31:04,242 --> 00:31:08,475
I started feeling like a
really sharp pain in my chest,
614
00:31:08,477 --> 00:31:11,043
and so I think he was stabbed.
615
00:31:11,045 --> 00:31:14,311
And I'm hearing these men clearly,
like, yelling at me,
616
00:31:14,313 --> 00:31:16,282
like, horrible, really awful things.
617
00:31:16,284 --> 00:31:20,152
And I think there was some
kind of issue with him
618
00:31:20,154 --> 00:31:22,621
where these males might have thought
619
00:31:22,623 --> 00:31:25,691
that he was a homosexual or
something of that nature.
620
00:31:25,693 --> 00:31:27,425
There was a double murder
621
00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:30,326
that had strong connection to this place.
622
00:31:30,328 --> 00:31:31,694
It happened in 1887.
623
00:31:31,696 --> 00:31:34,563
A guy by the name of Joseph Plu lived here.
624
00:31:34,565 --> 00:31:37,131
Now, I got a photo of him.
625
00:31:37,133 --> 00:31:40,067
Now, he lived next door to
a guy named Henry Dunham.
626
00:31:40,069 --> 00:31:42,236
And now, Henry lived on the property
627
00:31:42,238 --> 00:31:44,005
with his wife and 20-month-old daughter.
628
00:31:44,007 --> 00:31:46,472
So he needed to hire somebody
to work on the farm for him,
629
00:31:46,474 --> 00:31:47,439
and he hired this guy.
630
00:31:47,441 --> 00:31:51,543
Now, on February 7, 1887,
631
00:31:51,545 --> 00:31:53,446
this is when a brutal crime takes place.
632
00:31:53,448 --> 00:31:54,747
Henry was stabbed repeatedly.
633
00:31:54,749 --> 00:31:58,820
They find Henry in the barn area outside.
634
00:31:58,822 --> 00:32:01,289
He's stabbed to death
and his body's mutilated
635
00:32:01,291 --> 00:32:04,157
because he had hogs on the property
636
00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:06,924
that basically went to town on him,
and they ate him.
637
00:32:06,926 --> 00:32:10,927
Now, inside,
his 20-month-old daughter was also murdered.
638
00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:12,328
It was pretty brutal.
639
00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:14,127
She was cut from ear to ear,
640
00:32:14,129 --> 00:32:16,627
practically almost right to the point
641
00:32:16,629 --> 00:32:18,362
where her head was cut off.
642
00:32:18,364 --> 00:32:21,633
His wife Lucy was stabbed
several times and beaten,
643
00:32:21,635 --> 00:32:23,434
but she survived actually.
644
00:32:23,436 --> 00:32:25,971
This is where it gets interesting.
645
00:32:25,973 --> 00:32:27,875
She told the cops that
there were three attackers,
646
00:32:27,877 --> 00:32:29,675
and one of them was Plu.
647
00:32:29,677 --> 00:32:31,545
She's like, "Yeah.
It was him and two other guys,"
648
00:32:31,547 --> 00:32:33,248
that she couldn't identify.
649
00:32:33,250 --> 00:32:35,214
He's the only one that gets charged.
650
00:32:35,216 --> 00:32:38,418
29 years later, Lucy comes back and says,
651
00:32:38,420 --> 00:32:39,820
"I'm not sure Plu was at the crime scene."
652
00:32:39,822 --> 00:32:42,056
This is after the guy's
in jail for 29 years.
653
00:32:42,058 --> 00:32:43,423
So why would she retract that?
654
00:32:43,425 --> 00:32:46,025
Your guess is as good as mine.
655
00:32:46,027 --> 00:32:49,127
It's still a mystery to this day, this case.
656
00:32:49,129 --> 00:32:51,562
This is actually a picture
of Plu when he came out,
657
00:32:51,564 --> 00:32:54,397
29 years later.
658
00:32:54,399 --> 00:32:56,433
This is, uh... this is him.
659
00:32:57,802 --> 00:32:59,102
Did you know about any of this?
660
00:32:59,104 --> 00:33:00,839
'Cause you seem upset about it,
661
00:33:00,841 --> 00:33:03,343
and I know it's a terrible story.
662
00:33:03,345 --> 00:33:05,611
When she spoke about the woman,
663
00:33:05,613 --> 00:33:09,813
um... I've gotten feelings about,
664
00:33:09,815 --> 00:33:13,546
uh, a lady, um, that was, uh, raped
665
00:33:13,548 --> 00:33:15,647
and... and murdered.
666
00:33:15,649 --> 00:33:16,848
So I felt it.
667
00:33:16,850 --> 00:33:20,721
You know, it was, uh,
by more than just one person.
668
00:33:20,723 --> 00:33:24,188
Her spirit had came through me
669
00:33:24,190 --> 00:33:26,224
and talked with me
670
00:33:26,226 --> 00:33:30,590
and, uh... um, she... she's,
like, telling me
671
00:33:30,592 --> 00:33:32,359
that she was forced to retract that.
672
00:33:32,361 --> 00:33:34,296
Oh, interesting. Okay.
673
00:33:34,298 --> 00:33:36,799
Well, let me ask you a question.
Do you think she has abilities?
674
00:33:36,801 --> 00:33:38,632
Yes.
675
00:33:38,634 --> 00:33:41,133
- Mm-hmm.
- Yes, I do.
676
00:33:41,135 --> 00:33:45,270
It seems to me that she wants people
677
00:33:45,272 --> 00:33:47,872
to know exactly what happened.
678
00:33:47,874 --> 00:33:51,145
She wants, you know, the truth to be told.
679
00:33:51,147 --> 00:33:53,815
I think it was him.
680
00:33:53,817 --> 00:33:55,384
They raped her.
681
00:33:59,254 --> 00:34:00,321
All right.
682
00:34:00,323 --> 00:34:01,756
So what else happened on your walk?
683
00:34:01,758 --> 00:34:03,624
One of the people that I encountered,
684
00:34:03,626 --> 00:34:05,291
he seemed to me to be
685
00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:08,895
the most physically
present dead person here.
686
00:34:08,897 --> 00:34:13,800
And he came off very much
as like a workaholic,
687
00:34:13,802 --> 00:34:17,806
but when I went upstairs, very different.
688
00:34:17,808 --> 00:34:20,172
He was like, "Get the [bleep] out of there.
689
00:34:20,174 --> 00:34:22,742
This is... this is my... my space."
690
00:34:22,744 --> 00:34:27,315
One of the ways that he
sometimes shows himself
691
00:34:27,317 --> 00:34:31,319
is as a tall, shadow-type figure.
692
00:34:31,321 --> 00:34:33,787
Now, you've seen a guy
693
00:34:33,789 --> 00:34:35,492
in the window upstairs, though, right?
694
00:34:35,494 --> 00:34:36,659
- A tall guy?
- KATHY: Yes.
695
00:34:36,661 --> 00:34:38,192
And when I've seen him,
696
00:34:38,194 --> 00:34:40,594
he was just, like, looking down
697
00:34:40,596 --> 00:34:43,463
each side of the street as to see if he...
698
00:34:43,465 --> 00:34:45,301
he's looking for someone,
699
00:34:45,303 --> 00:34:46,969
like a lookout-type of a guy.
700
00:34:46,971 --> 00:34:48,369
Mm-hmm.
701
00:34:48,371 --> 00:34:51,772
You saw it leaving work
one day when nobody's here.
702
00:34:51,774 --> 00:34:52,905
Yeah.
703
00:34:52,907 --> 00:34:54,775
There was nobody in the
building when I left.
704
00:34:54,777 --> 00:34:56,145
Mm-hmm.
705
00:34:56,147 --> 00:34:57,947
Did you get any sense
706
00:34:57,949 --> 00:34:59,613
of who this guy might have
been when he was alive?
707
00:34:59,615 --> 00:35:04,588
He worked his whole life
to do well for himself,
708
00:35:04,590 --> 00:35:07,721
and he felt like he did do well for himself.
709
00:35:07,723 --> 00:35:10,094
I thought that he either owned this place
710
00:35:10,096 --> 00:35:11,997
or was in charge of this place.
711
00:35:11,999 --> 00:35:15,997
And, uh, he thinks that he's still...
712
00:35:15,999 --> 00:35:17,799
- Running it...
- running it.
713
00:35:17,801 --> 00:35:21,539
Uh, I got that he was
between 55 and 60 years old.
714
00:35:21,541 --> 00:35:28,278
His moods seemed to be
very drastic ups and downs,
715
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,546
ups and downs.
716
00:35:29,548 --> 00:35:31,515
And he's still like that.
717
00:35:31,517 --> 00:35:35,122
Well,
it makes me think of the guy Henry Hover
718
00:35:35,124 --> 00:35:36,522
that originally built this place.
719
00:35:36,524 --> 00:35:39,590
Now, he was a hard worker,
he was a workaholic.
720
00:35:39,592 --> 00:35:40,859
He was a farmer.
721
00:35:40,861 --> 00:35:43,564
In 1880,
he started buying little pieces of land.
722
00:35:43,566 --> 00:35:47,868
Took him 17 years to buy the
property and build this hotel,
723
00:35:47,870 --> 00:35:49,437
which was his dream.
724
00:35:51,173 --> 00:35:54,075
I have the only known photo of this guy,
725
00:35:54,077 --> 00:35:55,543
and it's not a very good one.
726
00:35:58,013 --> 00:36:00,415
You mentioned he was an emotional wreck.
727
00:36:00,417 --> 00:36:02,719
Well, he lost his son Ira at the age of 6
728
00:36:02,721 --> 00:36:05,090
from unknown causes from what we can tell.
729
00:36:05,092 --> 00:36:07,360
1901, his wife lost a baby boy at birth,
730
00:36:07,362 --> 00:36:10,664
and then in 1902,
the biggest tragedy happened
731
00:36:10,666 --> 00:36:15,271
to this guy, his 3-year-old son,
Elmer, fell off a bag of beans.
732
00:36:15,273 --> 00:36:17,337
He was playing in the hotel,
733
00:36:17,339 --> 00:36:20,271
and the fall broke the poor kid's neck.
734
00:36:20,273 --> 00:36:21,706
And he basically died about 20 minutes later
735
00:36:21,708 --> 00:36:23,106
after they found him.
736
00:36:23,108 --> 00:36:25,108
To make matters worse for this guy, in 1906,
737
00:36:25,110 --> 00:36:27,377
he comes into some hard times financially
738
00:36:27,379 --> 00:36:29,746
and has to sell this place at a great loss.
739
00:36:29,748 --> 00:36:31,949
Now, did you get a good look at the guy?
740
00:36:31,951 --> 00:36:32,916
Yes, I did.
741
00:36:32,918 --> 00:36:35,319
And I had a sketch done of him.
742
00:36:35,321 --> 00:36:36,386
Okay.
743
00:36:41,226 --> 00:36:44,292
Take a look at this.
744
00:36:52,472 --> 00:36:56,111
The sketch looks exactly
like this man right here.
745
00:37:00,014 --> 00:37:01,447
Looks just like him.
746
00:37:01,449 --> 00:37:03,817
- This sketch you did looks just like Plu...
- Right.
747
00:37:03,819 --> 00:37:05,420
The more I'm looking at it.
748
00:37:05,422 --> 00:37:06,955
Oh, my gosh.
749
00:37:06,957 --> 00:37:08,658
Yeah. It all makes sense. Okay.
750
00:37:26,742 --> 00:37:29,544
- This sketch you did looks just like Plu...
- Right.
751
00:37:29,546 --> 00:37:31,444
The more I'm looking at it.
752
00:37:31,446 --> 00:37:32,578
Oh, my gosh.
753
00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:34,410
Yeah. It all makes sense. Okay.
754
00:37:40,717 --> 00:37:43,619
It matches, like,
the murder that he did on that guy,
755
00:37:43,621 --> 00:37:45,788
the things he was saying.
756
00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:49,025
Yeah. It totally makes sense.
757
00:37:49,027 --> 00:37:51,459
So do you think this guy Plu
758
00:37:51,461 --> 00:37:54,864
is the guy that you ran
into on the second floor?
759
00:37:54,866 --> 00:37:56,097
- Yeah.
- Okay. 'Cause it makes sense.
760
00:37:56,099 --> 00:37:58,730
And the second and third floor for sure.
Yeah.
761
00:37:58,732 --> 00:38:00,967
So how'd this guy Plu make you think
762
00:38:00,969 --> 00:38:03,369
he was the workaholic on the top floors?
763
00:38:03,371 --> 00:38:06,404
Because there's so much
residual information,
764
00:38:06,406 --> 00:38:12,817
I feel like he's able to,
you know, almost disguise himself
765
00:38:12,819 --> 00:38:15,351
within all of this information that exists.
766
00:38:15,353 --> 00:38:19,089
The third floor, the second floor,
and the underneath,
767
00:38:19,091 --> 00:38:20,389
I think is all the same person.
768
00:38:20,391 --> 00:38:22,256
Okay. So, the guy that you encountered
769
00:38:22,258 --> 00:38:23,421
- that's kicking the fl...
- Yeah.
770
00:38:23,423 --> 00:38:26,426
- Making the pipes burst.
- Yes.
771
00:38:26,428 --> 00:38:29,029
The aggressive guy on the
second floor we think is Plu.
772
00:38:29,031 --> 00:38:30,196
Yeah.
773
00:38:30,198 --> 00:38:31,996
And the third floor guy... Which is Plu.
774
00:38:31,998 --> 00:38:33,763
- Is all the same guy.
- Yeah. It's all the same guy.
775
00:38:33,765 --> 00:38:40,836
But now it seems to be
getting more physical.
776
00:38:40,838 --> 00:38:43,974
So you think this guy
wants people out of here?
777
00:38:43,976 --> 00:38:46,279
Yes.
778
00:38:46,281 --> 00:38:49,750
I see this guy taking pillows
779
00:38:49,752 --> 00:38:51,654
and putting them over living people's faces
780
00:38:51,656 --> 00:38:54,191
and trying to kill them,
781
00:38:54,193 --> 00:38:56,128
but he's made it look like a heart attack
782
00:38:56,130 --> 00:38:57,230
or things like that.
783
00:38:57,232 --> 00:38:58,800
So he's capable of killing living people?
784
00:38:58,802 --> 00:39:00,801
Yes.
785
00:39:00,803 --> 00:39:02,371
He'll, like, target people he doesn't like,
786
00:39:02,373 --> 00:39:05,311
like drug addicts and homosexuals.
787
00:39:08,248 --> 00:39:10,917
You know, Kathy,
earlier you mentioned to me that you're gay.
788
00:39:10,919 --> 00:39:12,520
Is it okay if we talk about that?
789
00:39:12,522 --> 00:39:14,889
Yes.
790
00:39:14,891 --> 00:39:18,327
Now, is it bothering you that
he might have been targeting you
791
00:39:18,329 --> 00:39:19,329
because of your lifestyle?
792
00:39:19,331 --> 00:39:20,564
Now it is.
793
00:39:20,566 --> 00:39:24,401
I think he was targeting
me not only because of that
794
00:39:24,403 --> 00:39:27,337
but also the fact that I was able to connect
795
00:39:27,339 --> 00:39:28,739
with... with the lady,
796
00:39:28,741 --> 00:39:33,645
and so I'm thinking he's like,
"Not only is she gay,
797
00:39:33,647 --> 00:39:36,744
but she also can communicate
with these other spirits,
798
00:39:36,746 --> 00:39:38,478
and now I'm... I'm threatened."
799
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,113
Dan,
when you said it was getting worse here,
800
00:39:41,115 --> 00:39:42,345
you weren't kidding.
801
00:39:48,154 --> 00:39:49,555
Well, Dan, we know one thing for sure.
802
00:39:49,557 --> 00:39:51,456
Kathy was right. This place is dangerous.
803
00:39:51,458 --> 00:39:52,856
But the big question is,
804
00:39:52,858 --> 00:39:55,460
can you make it safe for your
employees and your guests?
805
00:39:55,462 --> 00:39:57,196
For that answer,
I'm gonna turn it over to my partner, Amy.
806
00:39:59,531 --> 00:40:01,365
The first concern I have
807
00:40:01,367 --> 00:40:06,637
is that I think some of the
activity might get... bad,
808
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:11,172
and I don't think he's going
to be happy about the fact
809
00:40:11,174 --> 00:40:14,334
that all his cards are on the table.
810
00:40:14,336 --> 00:40:21,669
I am very nervous about
how he's going to react,
811
00:40:21,671 --> 00:40:25,671
so I definitely would suggest
that people not stay here
812
00:40:25,673 --> 00:40:29,109
until it can be dealt with.
813
00:40:29,111 --> 00:40:30,512
I'm certainly shaken.
814
00:40:32,478 --> 00:40:34,476
All right.
So how do we get rid of this [bleep]
815
00:40:34,478 --> 00:40:39,346
It needs to be, like,
a massive hit against him.
816
00:40:39,348 --> 00:40:43,615
I would like there to be a psychic knower
817
00:40:43,617 --> 00:40:46,950
to come with two male mediums,
818
00:40:46,952 --> 00:40:50,517
and they all need to work at the same time.
819
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:53,419
The psychic knower is
going to be taking care
820
00:40:53,421 --> 00:40:55,187
of the residual that's here,
821
00:40:55,189 --> 00:40:58,187
and the mediums are going to be dealing
822
00:40:58,189 --> 00:41:01,122
with the conscious dead that are here,
823
00:41:01,124 --> 00:41:02,557
and there's a lot.
824
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:06,228
And I want two badass male mediums,
825
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:07,896
very aggressive, very strong.
826
00:41:07,898 --> 00:41:08,930
Why?
827
00:41:08,932 --> 00:41:11,595
He'll get intimidated a little
828
00:41:11,597 --> 00:41:13,927
and he needs to be intimidated.
829
00:41:13,929 --> 00:41:16,964
Also, I don't want any other
living people in the building
830
00:41:16,966 --> 00:41:18,732
when they're doing this,
831
00:41:18,734 --> 00:41:20,466
'cause I also feel that
they could be attacked.
832
00:41:22,867 --> 00:41:24,332
All right.
833
00:41:24,334 --> 00:41:26,234
And now, once that's done,
the things will be okay here?
834
00:41:26,236 --> 00:41:30,874
It'll be very quiet, void of everything.
835
00:41:30,876 --> 00:41:33,877
It'll feel very, very, very different.
836
00:41:33,879 --> 00:41:36,011
I'm just... I'm... I'm thinking
837
00:41:36,013 --> 00:41:38,815
that I'm gonna miss this place for a while.
838
00:41:38,817 --> 00:41:41,955
Once this [bleep] out of here,
she'll be safe to come back.
839
00:41:41,957 --> 00:41:43,722
- Yeah.
- Okay.
840
00:41:43,724 --> 00:41:45,156
Yes.
841
00:41:45,158 --> 00:41:46,858
Thank you.
842
00:41:46,860 --> 00:41:49,664
So you're gonna take our advice, I assume.
843
00:41:49,666 --> 00:41:50,831
DAN: Absolutely.
844
00:41:50,833 --> 00:41:52,331
Can't wait to get rid of him.
845
00:41:52,333 --> 00:41:55,169
AMY: It won't be easy removing the dead man
846
00:41:55,171 --> 00:41:57,440
wreaking havoc on this restaurant/hotel,
847
00:41:57,442 --> 00:42:00,042
but I believe if Dan follows my advice,
848
00:42:00,044 --> 00:42:01,910
the evil here will be banished,
849
00:42:01,912 --> 00:42:05,249
keeping Dan and his employees
and guests safe from harm.
850
00:42:05,299 --> 00:42:09,849
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