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Good evening. You are about to see
a dramatization of actual facts...
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...in which some of the names
have been changed. But the story is true.
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If it were not true,
it would not be believable...
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...for it is one of the most
bizarre chapters in the history of crime.
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We may not like to accept
that people such as those...
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...in the story of Helter Skelter
exist in our life, and yet they do.
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And while they do, we cannot say
that the story of Helter Skelter is ended.
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The foothills and canyons
above Beverly Hills...
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...in the early morning hours
of Saturday, August 9, 1969.
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"It was so quiet, "
one of the killers would say...
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..."you could hear ice
rattling in cocktail shakers...
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...in the homes way down the canyon. "
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What was that? Sounded like a gun.
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Come on, let's go to bed.
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All right.
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Hey, hey, hey. Shut up, you two.
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You two are gonna end up
in the pound if you don't look out.
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Now what's the matter, boy, huh?
What's the matter?
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Cookie, Cookie.
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- What are you shaking for, huh?
- Please, don't. Don't. No, please.
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Please, no. No. No!
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And what direction
did the screams come from?
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I couldn't say exactly. In these hills
the sounds get scrambled.
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Murder! Murder! Murder!
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Six-Adam-25 at location.
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All right, please, everybody move back.
Just move back, please.
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We don't know anything yet.
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How do you open this thing?
Miss, how do you open this thing?
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I'll need you to identify the bodies.
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I can't go back in there.
No, no, no way.
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No.
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Hey, look, there's even blood
on this button.
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Is that the killer?
Where did you find him?
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How many did he kill?
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- Well, what's his name?
- Garretson, William.
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Mr. Rosner? Sergeant Smith, Homicide.
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- You are Mr. Polanski's business manager?
- Yeah.
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It's going to be difficult for you, sir,
we know, but we need your help.
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This way.
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The first one is in this car here, Mr. Rosner.
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- Can you identify him, sir?
- No.
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- No idea?
- I never saw him before.
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All right, can we look
at the others now, please?
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- Voytek.
- Who?
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A friend of Roman's from Poland.
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Voytek Frykowski.
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Okay, good.
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Do you know her?
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I think so.
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It'd be a big help
if you could make it positive.
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Gibby.
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Abigail Folger.
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The coffee family.
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Yeah, she and Voytek
were staying with...
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...Sharon while Roman was-
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Sharon?
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I'll have that blood sample
in five seconds.
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Okay.
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I'll get that later.
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That's Jay...
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...Sebring.
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I think, I don't really know.
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I know he's beat all to hell,
but you're pretty sure?
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Yes.
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Would you come to this side
of the sofa, please, Mr. Rosner?
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Oh, my God. Sharon.
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Often called one of the world's
most beautiful women...
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...Miss Tate was eight months pregnant
at the time of her death.
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Her body, clad only
in flowered bikini panties and bra...
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...and bearing multiple stab wounds...
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...was found with a nylon rope
tied around her neck.
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The other end was around
the neck of Jay Sebring...
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...known men's hair stylist,
who according to police...
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...had been stabbed, beaten and shot.
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Police describe Garretson's answers
as stuporous and unresponsive.
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They said he would be held
for further questioning.
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In other developments,
law enforcement sources confirm today...
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...that drugs have been found
in the house on Elysium Drive...
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...as well as in Jay Sebring's Porsche.
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One day after the Tate murders,
Leno and Rosemary LaBianca...
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...return from a trip to the mountains.
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Veteran newsmen theorize...
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...that the fact that Garretson was held
for questioning had not been specifically-
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- How are you folks?
- Fine, Herb.
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- I'm not.
- She's upset because of these killings.
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- A terrible thing.
- Yeah.
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The world is full of crazies.
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- They got the guy, so what's the worry?
- It sure sounds like the guy.
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- Have you folks been up at the lake?
- Yeah.
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- It must be nice there.
- I don't know.
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I couldn't get a racing form up there.
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Listen, the last time we were up there
somebody went through our house.
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- I'll see you later.
- So long.
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- How old are you?
- Nineteen.
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Keep your look forward, please.
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Were you the caretaker?
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Yes, sir.
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Is your true last name Garretson?
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Yes.
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Did you know the boy
they found dead in the car?
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Steve Parent. But not so good.
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Concerning Steve Parent,
did you cause his death?
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No.
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You understood the question?
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Yes.
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Do you feel responsible for Steve's death?
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- Well, that he even knew me, yeah.
- Huh?
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Well, that he even knew me.
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I mean, he wouldn't have come
to visit me that night.
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Nothing would've happened,
in other words, to him.
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Did you cause Mrs. Polanski's death?
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No.
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Why are you so nervous?
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- Wouldn't you be?
- Not if I was telling the truth.
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But I am telling the truth.
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So relax.
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I can tell you what made me
so nervous if you want to know.
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What?
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When they brought me in here...
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...a policeman pointed to me
and said, "That's the guy.
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That's the guy
who killed all those people. "
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- So it's not because you're lying?
- I'm not lying.
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I'm just confused.
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Why are you confused?
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Well, for one thing...
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...how come I wasn't murdered?
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- Are you Franklyn?
- Yeah.
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Harry Jones, Sheriff's Homicide,
and my partner, Bob White.
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- We know each other. Hi, Ted.
- Sit down, fellas. You want some coffee?
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- Oh, we're on our way to eat.
- Well, it's about that time.
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- You're on Tate, right?
- Yeah.
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What do you got?
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Maybe nothing. We've been
on the Hinman case.
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Hinman, the music teacher?
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He was cut up pretty good
like the Tate people.
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The same kind of crazy viciousness,
you know.
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And we saw in the Teletype that
the Tate killers left a message, "pig. "
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Yeah, in blood.
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The Hinman killers wrote "political piggy"
on the wall.
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- In blood.
- Well, didn't you pick up somebody on that?
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- Bobby Beausoleil.
- So he was in custody during Tate?
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The thing is we don't think
he was alone on Hinman.
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He's been living with a bunch
of hippies at the old-
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A bunch of weirdos out there.
They think their leader is Jesus Christ.
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Jesus Christ, huh?
Peace and love and flowers.
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These are bigtime dope murders, Harry.
Now we're sure of that.
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Well...
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...we thought it was worth
mentioning anyhow.
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Similar mode of death,
message left in both places...
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...both printed, both in blood,
the word "pig" in both messages.
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Well, I see what you mean, but the dope
angle is the only one that fits here.
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- You want to come and eat with us?
- No, thanks, I'm brown-bagging.
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I gotta hang around.
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So long, sir. Good luck.
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Sunday, two days after the Tate murders.
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I really am sorry, sis,
to get you up so late.
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That's okay, Frank.
I don't blame you.
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When I saw all the shades down
and the boat in the driveway...
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...and the light on in the kitchen
and Mom didn't answer...
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...when I kept knocking,
well, I got a little scared to go in.
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You did the right thing.
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Susan, why don't you wait here,
and Frank and I'll take a look.
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Garretson is released for lack of evidence
three days after the Tate murders...
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...two after LaBianca.
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I don't see any connection
between the Tate and LaBianca killings.
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There are similarities,
but we think the dissimilarities...
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...are so strong as to preclude
any connection. For instance-
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- And the writings on the wall?
- I don't know who told you...
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...there was writing at the
LaBianca residence. I didn't say there was.
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We believe the LaBiancas
were killed by a copycat.
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There are a lot of psychos.
This sort of thing turns them on.
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Are you saying the killings
were done by psychos?
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I'm saying we have no motive...
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...and there was no connection
between the victims that we know of.
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- That you know of?
- That we know of.
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Drugs were found at the Tate murders,
while none were found at the LaBiancas.
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We believe the Tate killings
were a drug burn.
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Now, here's that Beatles album
I told you about.
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I don't say it's anything solid,
but I got me a hunch.
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- Mark, you guys working on the Tate case?
- LaBianca, Ted's on Tate.
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Now here, you see?
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- I've got something for you guys.
- A good cigar?
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Those pieces of gun grip
you found at the Tate scene...
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...they come from a Hi Standard
.22 caliber Longhorn revolver.
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Now, that's known as a Buntline Special.
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It's patterned after guns
that Ned Buntline made for Wyatt Earp.
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- Look, the firearms experts broke the case.
- As usual.
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They're not too many made
with that kind of grip.
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We're sending a flyer out to every P.D.
in the U.S. And Canada.
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- In no time at all, you'll have your gun.
- Sure. One chance in a 1000.
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All you do is match up the bullets
found in Sebring and Frykowski...
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...your case is solved, just like on TV.
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That's not the way you break cases, Hank.
You do it by filling out forms in triplicate.
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Now, here's a song called "Piggies. "
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- They printed "death to pigs" on the wall.
- Right.
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And here's a song called "Helter Skelter. "
"Helter Skelter was on the refrigerator door. "
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- Look, I know it's a wild guess-
- That's not so wild.
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It's not as wild as stabbing
some woman 41 times...
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...and then go on stabbing her
even after she's dead.
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It may as well be thrown in.
We don't have much.
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- You said it.
- Well, it beats a blank.
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Yeah, hopefully.
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One week after the killings...
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...in answer to complaints
of an auto-theft ring...
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...but unrelated to the Tate-LaBianca
investigations...
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...deputies from the L.A. Sheriff's
Department conduct a raid...
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...at the isolated Spahn Movie Ranch
in the Simi hills northwest of Los Angeles.
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Because some of the members
of the hippie cult at the ranch...
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...sleep in groups
away from the main buildings...
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...many of the officers move
into the ranch from the back way.
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All right, put your hands on your head.
Keep them where I can see them.
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Get up! Come here! Get up!
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Danny DeCarlo, a member
of the Straight Satan motorcycle club.
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Danny stays at the ranch
because of the wide variety of girls.
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Hold it!
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Susan Denise Atkins,
21 years old...
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...also known as Sadie Mae Glutz,
and infant son, Zezozose Zadfrack Glutz.
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This one's got a baby.
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Come on. All right, come on.
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Let go of my arm. Christ.
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- Okay, Charlie, come on out of there.
- Come on, let's get your hands up.
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- Move!
- All right! Damn it, I'm coming!
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- All right!
- Get out.
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All right! All right!
I'm coming! I'm coming! I'm here, man!
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All right.
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- Quit struggling! You're not gonna get hurt.
- Just be quiet, Charlie, everything's okay.
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- All right, on your feet.
- Let's go. Up. Up.
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- What's the matter?
- You're under arrest.
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- What for?
- Grand theft auto, okay? Let's go.
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Why don't you tell them to relax. I'll
tell some of the girls to be nice to you.
232
00:22:56,641 --> 00:23:01,408
Sayce, 22 years old, also known
as Moses, also known as Boots.
233
00:23:01,580 --> 00:23:04,413
Steve Grogan, 17,
also known as Clem...
234
00:23:04,583 --> 00:23:08,019
...an escapee from a state mental hospital.
235
00:23:09,921 --> 00:23:11,912
Patricia Krenwinkel, 22 years old...
236
00:23:12,090 --> 00:23:14,786
...also known as Katie,
also known as Marnie Reeves...
237
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,293
...also known as Big Patty,
also known as Mary Ann Scott.
238
00:23:28,006 --> 00:23:31,635
There he is. All right, Charlie...
239
00:23:31,810 --> 00:23:37,271
...tell them I'm a ranch hand.
I'm not part of your crummy Family.
240
00:23:38,984 --> 00:23:43,182
Look, wake up old man Spahn. Ask him.
241
00:23:43,355 --> 00:23:47,758
I don't belong to this gang.
I'm a ranch hand.
242
00:23:47,926 --> 00:23:51,794
Damn it, why do you do this to me
every time you put a bust on these bums?
243
00:23:51,963 --> 00:23:56,263
I work here. You take me in, Flynn,
who's gonna do the work?
244
00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:59,427
- Will you tell us what you know?
- You're damn right.
245
00:23:59,604 --> 00:24:02,698
Snitch! Snitch! Snitch!
246
00:24:12,083 --> 00:24:16,019
It's not nice to snitch, Shorty.
247
00:24:16,688 --> 00:24:18,781
Horse manure.
248
00:24:18,957 --> 00:24:23,792
Charles Milles Manson, also known
as Jesus Christ, God, Soul, the Devil.
249
00:24:23,962 --> 00:24:28,763
Charles Willis Manson, born
No Name Maddox, November 12th, 1934.
250
00:24:28,934 --> 00:24:31,903
Mother, Kathleen Maddox.
Lived with a succession of men.
251
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:37,064
Married briefly to William Manson,
who gave young Charles his last name.
252
00:24:40,111 --> 00:24:42,443
Let's start getting
these people out of here.
253
00:24:42,614 --> 00:24:45,674
All right, all children with their mothers.
254
00:24:50,155 --> 00:24:53,090
All females, let's go. On your feet.
255
00:24:53,258 --> 00:24:55,226
Single-file line to the bus.
256
00:24:58,196 --> 00:25:01,791
- On your feet, girl.
- What do you think we're on?
257
00:25:01,967 --> 00:25:05,994
- Okay.
- All right, on your feet. Get on your feet.
258
00:25:08,807 --> 00:25:12,607
Kathleen Maddox served time
in state penitentiary for armed robbery.
259
00:25:12,777 --> 00:25:15,268
Charles lived with relatives,
then his mother...
260
00:25:15,447 --> 00:25:17,881
...and a series of her lovers
in rundown hotels.
261
00:25:18,049 --> 00:25:21,212
Unwanted, he ran away at 12,
burglarized several stores...
262
00:25:21,386 --> 00:25:23,820
...was caught and sent to Boys Town.
263
00:25:23,989 --> 00:25:28,517
Fled four days later in a stolen car.
Committed first armed robbery, age 13.
264
00:25:28,693 --> 00:25:31,594
Has spent 17 years,
one half of his life...
265
00:25:31,763 --> 00:25:36,325
...in boys homes, jails
and federal penitentiaries.
266
00:25:59,791 --> 00:26:02,385
Took guitar lessons in prison
from Alvin Karpis...
267
00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:05,052
...lone survivor of the old
Ma Barker gang.
268
00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:09,758
Twice married and divorced.
Fathered two children, probably more.
269
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:43,728
Criminal record includes burglary,
armed robbery, attempted escape...
270
00:26:43,902 --> 00:26:48,032
...parole violation, homosexual rape,
assault, procuring...
271
00:26:48,206 --> 00:26:51,664
...mail theft, grand theft auto, forgery.
272
00:26:51,843 --> 00:26:56,109
Psychiatric evaluation: emotional
instability, rejection reaction...
273
00:26:56,281 --> 00:26:59,808
...psychic trauma, bisexual,
dangerous, assaultive.
274
00:27:33,351 --> 00:27:35,615
Three weeks after the murders...
275
00:27:35,787 --> 00:27:40,156
...9-year-old Steven Quint is working
with his father in their back yard.
276
00:27:53,772 --> 00:27:57,708
Hey, Dad. Hey, Dad, look what I found.
277
00:28:04,749 --> 00:28:09,379
I'm holding it this way so I don't mess up
the fingerprints. I saw it on Dragnet.
278
00:28:12,724 --> 00:28:16,057
My son's convinced this gun
was involved in every major crime...
279
00:28:16,227 --> 00:28:19,526
...from the Black Dahlia
to those Tate murders three weeks ago.
280
00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:22,030
We appreciate your calling, Mr. Quint.
281
00:28:23,034 --> 00:28:25,559
It looks like it's been used
to hammer something.
282
00:28:25,904 --> 00:28:27,963
Thank you.
283
00:28:37,482 --> 00:28:41,043
Steven Quint's discovery is tagged
and filed in the property room...
284
00:28:41,219 --> 00:28:45,451
...of the Van Nuys Division
of the Los Angeles Police Department.
285
00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:52,587
Come out! Come on out! Let's go!
286
00:28:52,764 --> 00:28:56,461
Come on out! Come on!
287
00:28:56,868 --> 00:28:59,098
- What happened?
- We had to release them.
288
00:28:59,270 --> 00:29:03,138
- DA's reject. Insufficient evidence.
- My aching back.
289
00:29:03,308 --> 00:29:08,041
Come on, let's go! Come on, go! Go!
290
00:29:14,719 --> 00:29:18,712
- Sheriff's Homicide. Jones.
- Harry, Phil Cohen here.
291
00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:22,916
- Hey, Phillip, what's up?
- Well, just a thought.
292
00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:27,690
- You were working on that Hinman case?
- Yeah, we're still on it.
293
00:29:27,866 --> 00:29:32,462
Well, Mark and I are on this LaBianca thing,
and we were just wondering...
294
00:29:32,637 --> 00:29:36,596
...what exactly did you find
printed on the walls at the Hinman place?
295
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,072
"Political piggy. "
296
00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:42,345
- Political piggy?
- Right, Hinman's blood.
297
00:29:42,514 --> 00:29:45,483
- Political piggy.
- That's one hell of a coincidence, huh?
298
00:29:45,650 --> 00:29:47,515
- You said it.
- By the way, Phil...
299
00:29:47,685 --> 00:29:50,085
- Yeah.
- We picked up that whole gang...
300
00:29:50,255 --> 00:29:52,120
...out there at Spahn Ranch.
301
00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:56,852
You know, that's where Bobby Beausoleil
was living when he killed Garry Hinman.
302
00:29:57,028 --> 00:29:58,893
There's a ranch hand out there...
303
00:29:59,063 --> 00:30:01,623
...you might want to talk to.
Name is Shorty Shea.
304
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,792
He's had a couple run-ins
with the leader of this gang...
305
00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:07,529
...and he may have heard something.
306
00:30:07,705 --> 00:30:10,799
Right, Shorty Shea.
I got it, Harry. Thank you.
307
00:30:10,975 --> 00:30:13,205
- You bet.
- Okay, bye-bye.
308
00:31:01,259 --> 00:31:03,124
Come on in.
309
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:05,523
Hi.
310
00:31:08,466 --> 00:31:11,594
Hi. You're new around here, aren't you?
311
00:31:11,769 --> 00:31:15,102
Charlie left me here to take
good care of George.
312
00:31:17,008 --> 00:31:20,500
They took off, huh?
I thought the place looked deserted.
313
00:31:20,678 --> 00:31:23,647
- Manuel Gris, Mr. Spahn.
- Phil Cohen, Mr. Spahn.
314
00:31:23,815 --> 00:31:25,908
I recognize your voice, Mr. Cohen.
315
00:31:26,484 --> 00:31:30,887
Charlie and his girls took off
the day after you were down here last time.
316
00:31:31,856 --> 00:31:33,289
Over a month ago.
317
00:31:33,825 --> 00:31:37,693
Yeah. You gentlemen want some lunch?
318
00:31:39,063 --> 00:31:42,055
- No, thank you. Some other time.
- No, thank you.
319
00:31:42,934 --> 00:31:44,799
But we were wondering, Mr. Spahn...
320
00:31:44,969 --> 00:31:47,665
...if Mr. Shea had come back
from San Francisco yet.
321
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,171
- Shorty?
- Couple of Charlie's girls...
322
00:31:50,341 --> 00:31:53,037
...told us he went to San Francisco
for a few weeks.
323
00:31:53,211 --> 00:31:55,441
That's what Charlie told me too.
324
00:31:56,047 --> 00:32:01,815
But it wasn't like old Shorty to haul freight
like that without saying boo to me about it.
325
00:32:01,986 --> 00:32:07,014
But he just turned up missing one day,
and I ain't seen hide nor hair of him since.
326
00:32:08,326 --> 00:32:12,820
- Learned exclusively that pieces of a gun
grip were found at the Tate murder scene.
327
00:32:12,997 --> 00:32:16,660
And that the gun police are
seeking is a 22 caliber pistol.
328
00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:20,235
That's the news. And now,
this comment and a question:
329
00:32:20,405 --> 00:32:24,865
Two months have passed since Sharon Tate
and four others were slaughtered.
330
00:32:25,043 --> 00:32:27,477
And yet not one suspect is in custody.
331
00:32:27,645 --> 00:32:31,706
Not one piece of concrete evidence is
presented to a frightened community...
332
00:32:31,883 --> 00:32:34,477
...that progress is being made.
333
00:32:36,621 --> 00:32:42,082
- Sounds like the gun Stevie found.
- Had a broken grip, didn't it?
334
00:32:43,928 --> 00:32:48,422
It must not be the one.
When was it we gave it to the police?
335
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:50,658
Was over a month ago.
336
00:32:50,835 --> 00:32:53,963
Surely they'd have come back
to ask more questions by now.
337
00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:55,935
And search the hillside.
338
00:33:04,782 --> 00:33:06,010
Help!
339
00:33:06,184 --> 00:33:10,587
Death Valley, California, two months
after the Tate and LaBianca murders.
340
00:33:10,755 --> 00:33:13,019
Stephanie Mark, 17 years old.
341
00:33:13,191 --> 00:33:18,322
And Kitty Lassiter, 17 years old
and five months pregnant.
342
00:33:25,536 --> 00:33:28,801
- Please, will you take us somewhere?
- Oh, please!
343
00:33:28,973 --> 00:33:30,838
- Where you going?
- Anywhere at all.
344
00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:33,534
- Somebody is trying to kill us.
- All right, who?
345
00:33:33,711 --> 00:33:35,838
- Charlie Manson.
- Please! Come on!
346
00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:37,379
- Come on.
- Get in the back.
347
00:33:37,548 --> 00:33:41,484
They tell the officers the Manson Family
left Spahn Ranch a month before...
348
00:33:41,652 --> 00:33:44,314
...and has stayed at Barker Ranch
in Death Valley.
349
00:33:44,489 --> 00:33:47,720
Kitty is pregnant by Family member
Bobby Beausoleil...
350
00:33:47,892 --> 00:33:51,384
...now in custody in Los Angeles
for the murder of Gary Hinman.
351
00:33:51,562 --> 00:33:55,464
Stephanie is a recent favorite of
Charlie Manson, now fallen from grace.
352
00:33:55,633 --> 00:33:58,761
Both girls believe Manson will
kill them for what they know.
353
00:33:58,936 --> 00:34:02,838
They don't know that Manson and the
Family were arrested two days earlier...
354
00:34:03,007 --> 00:34:06,773
...for the destruction
of an earthmoving machine.
355
00:34:06,944 --> 00:34:11,711
We got him over in the jail at Independence.
We picked him up, and the gang, yesterday.
356
00:34:11,883 --> 00:34:14,215
- What for?
- Arson.
357
00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:17,877
Burning up one of those
earthmoving machines.
358
00:34:18,089 --> 00:34:20,887
- You have anything to do with it?
- No.
359
00:34:21,726 --> 00:34:23,751
Sir.
360
00:34:25,229 --> 00:34:30,963
- Are you taking us to Independence too?
- I'm afraid we'll have to.
361
00:34:31,536 --> 00:34:33,766
You're not gonna put us
with them, are you?
362
00:34:33,938 --> 00:34:36,065
No, you'll be by yourself.
363
00:34:36,474 --> 00:34:41,309
Now, what are some of those things that
you know that Charlie wishes you didn't?
364
00:34:44,749 --> 00:34:47,741
Bobby Beausoleil didn't do it by himself.
I know that.
365
00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:50,888
What's that, kill Gary Hinman?
366
00:34:52,757 --> 00:34:55,692
Sadie was there too. She helped.
367
00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:58,124
- Sadie?
- Sadie Mae Glutz.
368
00:34:58,429 --> 00:35:01,023
Sadie Mae Glutz. Is that her real name?
369
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:06,330
No, I think her real name is Susan Atkins.
370
00:35:07,371 --> 00:35:11,102
Susan Atkins is Sadie Mae Glutz?
371
00:35:11,676 --> 00:35:14,338
Isn't that the girl we arrested yesterday?
372
00:35:14,612 --> 00:35:17,274
You better call
the L.A. County Sheriff's Office.
373
00:35:17,448 --> 00:35:21,350
Have them send somebody down
to talk to that little lady.
374
00:35:24,255 --> 00:35:28,817
Even after Bobby slashed his face,
he just wouldn't give us the money.
375
00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:32,528
Is that why you ended up
having to kill him? The money?
376
00:35:32,697 --> 00:35:36,861
Sure. $5000. We knew he had it.
377
00:35:37,034 --> 00:35:39,332
He just wouldn't give it to us.
378
00:35:39,504 --> 00:35:45,534
So me and Bobby took turns sleeping and
guarding him, so he wouldn't get away.
379
00:35:45,877 --> 00:35:48,471
And one night, while I was in the kitchen...
380
00:35:48,646 --> 00:35:53,049
...I heard Gary yell, "Don't, Bobby. "
381
00:35:53,217 --> 00:35:56,584
And he staggered into the kitchen.
He had blood on his chest.
382
00:35:56,754 --> 00:36:00,850
Sort of pouring out through his fingers,
you know?
383
00:36:01,025 --> 00:36:04,722
- What happened then?
- Well...
384
00:36:05,229 --> 00:36:08,995
We thought that was it for him.
He fell down, he was just laying there.
385
00:36:10,968 --> 00:36:14,404
So we wiped the house for prints, okay?
386
00:36:15,606 --> 00:36:19,474
And we were about to jam out of there,
and we heard Gary again.
387
00:36:19,644 --> 00:36:22,636
Just moaning and groaning.
388
00:36:23,714 --> 00:36:28,811
He's a funny guy. He just wouldn't die.
Just wouldn't.
389
00:36:28,986 --> 00:36:33,082
So Bobby went back in,
and I heard Gary again.
390
00:36:33,591 --> 00:36:37,118
"Oh, no, Bobby. Please, don't. "
391
00:36:37,895 --> 00:36:42,332
And then I heard a sound like gurgling,
as when people are dying.
392
00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:44,365
Susan.
393
00:36:45,503 --> 00:36:48,472
Would you repeat this on tape for us?
394
00:36:50,908 --> 00:36:52,705
No way.
395
00:36:54,612 --> 00:36:58,946
- Why did you tell us in the first place?
- For fun.
396
00:37:00,484 --> 00:37:04,284
You can't use it.
I'll just say I made it up.
397
00:37:06,824 --> 00:37:12,285
Okay, Sadie Mae. We'll be bringing
you back to L.A. This afternoon.
398
00:37:12,463 --> 00:37:15,694
You have any objection
to flying in a small plane?
399
00:37:16,267 --> 00:37:17,928
I love to fly.
400
00:37:37,755 --> 00:37:40,849
Two months and one week
after the Tate-LaBianca killings...
401
00:37:41,025 --> 00:37:43,687
...Atkins is arrested
for the Gary Hinman murder...
402
00:37:43,861 --> 00:37:48,594
...and brought to Sybil Brand Institute
for Women in East Los Angeles.
403
00:38:02,546 --> 00:38:05,379
Take 31, that's your bunk.
404
00:38:13,491 --> 00:38:16,927
- Cute.
- Yeah, probably straight too.
405
00:38:31,709 --> 00:38:35,543
- What's your name, honey?
- Sadie.
406
00:38:38,215 --> 00:38:39,477
Sexy Sadie.
407
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,253
Charlie.
408
00:38:52,296 --> 00:38:55,788
Charlie's the strongest man alive.
409
00:38:56,100 --> 00:39:01,163
They keep putting him in prison.
They can't break him. He has powers.
410
00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:05,139
- Powers?
- Believe me.
411
00:39:05,409 --> 00:39:09,311
I mean, he's not very big, physically...
412
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,381
...but everybody does what he says.
413
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:15,144
Even when he doesn't say it.
414
00:39:15,619 --> 00:39:19,055
- You know what I mean.
- No, not really.
415
00:39:21,592 --> 00:39:23,253
He's...
416
00:39:24,462 --> 00:39:28,626
He's our father. He's our leader.
417
00:39:28,799 --> 00:39:31,597
- He's our love.
- Really good, huh?
418
00:39:31,769 --> 00:39:36,069
Our teacher. He's everything.
419
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,265
In fact...
420
00:39:46,784 --> 00:39:51,118
You're a nice person, Ronnie.
I can trust you.
421
00:39:51,288 --> 00:39:54,689
- Thanks.
- No, I feel that.
422
00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:58,692
- Ronnie.
- Yes?
423
00:40:02,466 --> 00:40:04,900
Charlie's Jesus Christ.
424
00:40:07,505 --> 00:40:09,029
He is?
425
00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:13,206
Oh.
426
00:40:19,049 --> 00:40:21,074
What are you in here for?
427
00:40:23,387 --> 00:40:27,016
First degree murder. Gary Hinman.
428
00:40:27,758 --> 00:40:30,625
- Did you do it?
- Sure.
429
00:40:33,631 --> 00:40:36,099
They got it wrong.
430
00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:40,894
They claim I held him
while Bobby stabbed him.
431
00:40:41,071 --> 00:40:47,067
The way it came down was Bobby held
him while I stabbed him four or five times.
432
00:40:47,912 --> 00:40:51,746
- Cops are really dumb.
- What do you mean?
433
00:40:52,983 --> 00:40:54,575
There's a case right now.
434
00:40:55,619 --> 00:40:59,248
They're so far off the track,
they don't even know what's happening.
435
00:40:59,423 --> 00:41:04,486
- What are you talking about?
- That one in Benedict Canyon.
436
00:41:04,695 --> 00:41:06,560
Bene-?
437
00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:11,429
- Oh, you don't mean Sharon Tate?
- Sure.
438
00:41:12,837 --> 00:41:15,431
You know who did it, don't you?
439
00:41:16,307 --> 00:41:20,107
- No.
- Well...
440
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:24,047
...you're looking at her.
441
00:41:26,884 --> 00:41:28,613
You gotta be kidding.
442
00:41:45,436 --> 00:41:46,994
Boy, I'm tired.
443
00:41:49,473 --> 00:41:51,737
Why don't we go to bed?
444
00:41:54,879 --> 00:41:56,244
Why don't I stay here?
445
00:42:00,451 --> 00:42:03,682
I'm really tired.
446
00:42:06,557 --> 00:42:08,286
Well...
447
00:42:09,226 --> 00:42:11,126
Okay.
448
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:17,025
- Good night, love.
- Good night.
449
00:42:32,716 --> 00:42:36,083
- Danny DeCarlo?
- Hello.
450
00:42:44,528 --> 00:42:49,431
- You know Kitty Lassiter?
- No, man. I never heard of her.
451
00:42:50,935 --> 00:42:55,167
She says you used to hang around Spahn's
Ranch with Charlie Manson's Family.
452
00:42:55,339 --> 00:42:57,534
Man, I never heard of him either.
453
00:43:00,744 --> 00:43:03,804
Couple of charges pending against you,
I believe, Danny.
454
00:43:03,981 --> 00:43:05,642
Grand theft and a federal rap.
455
00:43:06,216 --> 00:43:09,811
Giving false information
while purchasing a firearm.
456
00:43:11,055 --> 00:43:15,048
Maybe they made a mistake cutting
you out on your own recognizance.
457
00:43:16,126 --> 00:43:19,357
Well, I guess you boys
wanna ask me a few questions, huh?
458
00:43:25,703 --> 00:43:31,232
The morning of November 18, 1969, I was
on my way to work in the Hall of Justice.
459
00:43:31,408 --> 00:43:35,435
It was just three months after
the Tate-LaBianca murders.
460
00:43:36,747 --> 00:43:38,510
Vince!
461
00:43:38,882 --> 00:43:41,146
Come here. I was looking for you.
462
00:43:41,318 --> 00:43:44,412
- What's this all about?
- Never mind. You'll see.
463
00:43:47,691 --> 00:43:51,252
We've got statements from the bikers,
Al Springer and Danny DeCarlo.
464
00:43:51,428 --> 00:43:55,091
- Well, they finally found you, huh, Vince?
- Congratulations, Vince.
465
00:43:55,265 --> 00:43:56,596
On what?
466
00:43:56,767 --> 00:44:01,170
I want you to okay this press release
before we let it go out, all right?
467
00:44:01,438 --> 00:44:04,703
"Dateline, Los Angeles,
November 18, 1969.
468
00:44:05,209 --> 00:44:07,700
DA Evelle Younger's office
announced today...
469
00:44:07,878 --> 00:44:10,745
...that Deputy DA Vincent T. Bugliosi...
470
00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:14,314
...has been named co-prosecutor
in the Sharon Tate murder case. "
471
00:44:14,485 --> 00:44:16,077
Are we gonna handle it?
472
00:44:16,253 --> 00:44:21,885
"Mr. Bugliosi, chosen from a staff
of 450 lawyers to prosecute this case...
473
00:44:22,226 --> 00:44:26,890
...has previously tried
104 felony jury trials, losing only one. "
474
00:44:27,064 --> 00:44:29,191
You make me sound like a sure winner.
475
00:44:29,366 --> 00:44:31,266
- What do we got to go on?
- Not much.
476
00:44:31,435 --> 00:44:34,996
Few statements, that's it.
None of which can be used in evidence.
477
00:44:35,806 --> 00:44:37,296
Why not?
478
00:44:37,474 --> 00:44:39,738
- Aranda?
- That's right.
479
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:43,311
California Supreme Court,
The People v. Aranda, 1965.
480
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,075
These are all statements from defendants
implicating codefendants.
481
00:44:49,586 --> 00:44:51,713
So Manson ordered Hinman killed.
482
00:44:52,056 --> 00:44:55,719
Yep, that's the way Bobby told it.
483
00:44:55,893 --> 00:45:01,889
- He said Charlie sent him, Mary, Sadie-
- Wait a minute. Who's Mary?
484
00:45:02,066 --> 00:45:04,432
Mary Brunner, man.
485
00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:08,402
Is this her?
486
00:45:10,641 --> 00:45:12,768
Yeah, that's her.
487
00:45:14,278 --> 00:45:17,679
Her and Bobby and Sadie.
488
00:45:18,382 --> 00:45:22,216
They went to Gary's place.
489
00:45:22,786 --> 00:45:24,617
By the way, my man...
490
00:45:24,788 --> 00:45:27,723
...is Charlie gonna know
I talked to you guys?
491
00:45:27,891 --> 00:45:32,760
- Charlie's up in jail in Independence.
- Charlie's got a long reach, man.
492
00:45:32,930 --> 00:45:36,696
None of the girls know you're here.
We'll make sure they don't.
493
00:45:36,867 --> 00:45:38,391
Just between me and you...
494
00:45:39,303 --> 00:45:41,828
...the little dude scares
the hell out of me.
495
00:45:42,439 --> 00:45:43,770
He's a freak, man.
496
00:45:44,141 --> 00:45:48,601
I mean, he did Shorty just like that,
just because he thought he was snitching.
497
00:45:49,146 --> 00:45:51,307
- Who told you that?
- It's in the tapes.
498
00:45:51,482 --> 00:45:53,848
- I told the other detectives.
- Tell me again.
499
00:45:54,017 --> 00:45:56,884
- So your story doesn't change.
- I'm telling the truth.
500
00:45:57,054 --> 00:45:58,578
Now, what would be the point?
501
00:45:59,256 --> 00:46:04,193
Okay, Danny. All right.
Who told you about killing Shorty?
502
00:46:08,265 --> 00:46:10,631
Cisco Budge.
503
00:46:13,537 --> 00:46:18,497
- Said they cut him up in nine pieces, man.
- Is this him?
504
00:46:18,675 --> 00:46:21,371
Chopped his head off too.
505
00:46:21,879 --> 00:46:25,440
That's Boots.
506
00:46:25,616 --> 00:46:27,311
- Boots?
- Yeah, man. Boots.
507
00:46:27,484 --> 00:46:31,545
He was one of the young kids.
He hung out to the ranch.
508
00:46:31,722 --> 00:46:34,623
He didn't seem to fit in with the Family.
509
00:46:34,792 --> 00:46:37,761
Boots is no longer with us, Danny.
510
00:46:38,896 --> 00:46:41,490
What do you mean,
"Boots is no longer with us"?
511
00:46:41,665 --> 00:46:44,031
He's among the dead.
512
00:46:46,570 --> 00:46:48,868
Well, terrific.
513
00:46:51,375 --> 00:46:53,502
Since when?
514
00:46:53,677 --> 00:46:58,808
Couple weeks ago. Accidentally
shot himself playing Russian roulette.
515
00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:03,013
- Who was with him?
- Cisco Budge.
516
00:47:03,654 --> 00:47:06,054
Cisco Budge?
517
00:47:07,591 --> 00:47:09,286
All right.
518
00:47:10,527 --> 00:47:14,019
Okay. Boots must have got out of line.
519
00:47:14,832 --> 00:47:18,233
- That wasn't no accident.
- Some other members of the Family-
520
00:47:18,402 --> 00:47:21,860
I know, I know. And they all tell
the same story, right?
521
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:27,033
That's it, partner. I ain't talking no more.
I'm riding out of here on the wind.
522
00:47:27,211 --> 00:47:31,739
There's still charges against you, Danny.
I don't think you'll feel very safe in jail.
523
00:47:31,915 --> 00:47:36,375
- That's where Charlie is.
- That sure is cold, man.
524
00:47:42,693 --> 00:47:44,854
Danny, go to Spahn Ranch
with me tomorrow.
525
00:47:45,028 --> 00:47:50,159
Oh, no way, baby. No. Not the kid.
526
00:47:50,334 --> 00:47:52,768
I heard
some of the Family is still up there.
527
00:47:53,370 --> 00:47:57,739
We need a guide.
If you don't wanna go, it's your decision.
528
00:48:05,148 --> 00:48:07,116
Well, what about the charges, man?
529
00:48:15,425 --> 00:48:17,120
All right.
530
00:48:19,296 --> 00:48:22,163
All right, I'll do it. Yeah, I'll do it.
531
00:48:24,201 --> 00:48:26,294
If you handcuff me.
532
00:48:46,857 --> 00:48:48,916
Flapping to the fuzz, huh, Danny?
533
00:49:08,478 --> 00:49:12,209
- My God. Does she live here?
- Yeah, she lives here.
534
00:49:12,382 --> 00:49:16,648
- She's happy.
- Is it all right to be happy?
535
00:49:19,156 --> 00:49:22,023
And they had this
9 mm Polish random automatic.
536
00:49:22,192 --> 00:49:25,161
Danny, did you ever see
a 22 caliber Buntline revolver?
537
00:49:25,329 --> 00:49:27,820
- That's the one Charlie carried.
- Here's another. 22.
538
00:49:27,998 --> 00:49:32,594
- Wait a minute, are you sure of that?
- About the Buntline? Hell, yes, I'm sure.
539
00:49:32,769 --> 00:49:38,264
- Cleaned the guns. I am a weapons man.
- So Charlie had a. 22 caliber Buntline.
540
00:49:38,442 --> 00:49:41,377
That's the one he did
the Black Panther with.
541
00:49:41,545 --> 00:49:44,070
- You hear about that one?
- No.
542
00:49:44,247 --> 00:49:47,239
That's the kill that went down
about a year ago.
543
00:49:47,417 --> 00:49:51,979
Charlie had some trouble with this nigger
over a dope deal. So he snuffed him.
544
00:49:52,155 --> 00:49:55,613
When was the last time
you saw that 22 Buntline?
545
00:49:56,994 --> 00:49:59,462
A week before
the sheriff's office raided us.
546
00:49:59,629 --> 00:50:02,325
- So that would be August 16th, right?
- Hey.
547
00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:06,299
Charlie didn't allow no calendars
or clocks at the ranch.
548
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:12,207
About a week after the Tate killings,
I asked him what happened to his gun.
549
00:50:12,376 --> 00:50:16,244
He always carried it in a holster.
I noticed right away it wasn't there.
550
00:50:16,413 --> 00:50:19,439
He said, "Hey, man, I just gave it away. "
551
00:50:20,650 --> 00:50:24,780
Danny, do you think Charlie
had anything to do with Tate?
552
00:50:26,323 --> 00:50:30,259
Man, I don't feel like talking about that.
553
00:50:35,098 --> 00:50:39,797
You know, Shorty's buried around here
somewhere, in nine different graves.
554
00:50:39,970 --> 00:50:42,029
He was a real right dude too.
555
00:50:42,205 --> 00:50:47,142
Danny, if we ever find this 22 caliber
Buntline revolver, could you ID it?
556
00:50:47,310 --> 00:50:49,073
Hell, yes, I could.
557
00:50:49,246 --> 00:50:52,579
- Who was the last to die?
- Sharon was the last to die.
558
00:50:52,749 --> 00:50:55,217
I was holding her arms behind her...
559
00:50:55,385 --> 00:50:59,685
...and she's looking at me,
begging and crying.
560
00:50:59,856 --> 00:51:04,486
"Please, don't kill me.
Please, don't kill me.
561
00:51:04,661 --> 00:51:10,725
I don't wanna die. I wanna live. I wanna
have my baby. I wanna have my baby. "
562
00:51:12,536 --> 00:51:15,972
And I looked her straight in the eye,
and I said:
563
00:51:16,139 --> 00:51:21,167
"Look, bitch, I don't care about you.
I don't care about your baby.
564
00:51:21,344 --> 00:51:25,713
You better be ready. You're gonna die,
and I don't feel a thing about it. "
565
00:51:25,882 --> 00:51:30,285
- And I proceeded to stab, okay?
- Okay.
566
00:51:30,454 --> 00:51:31,921
- And you know what?
- What?
567
00:51:32,589 --> 00:51:36,753
I just kept stabbing her and stabbing her
until she stopped screaming.
568
00:51:37,294 --> 00:51:40,491
But she was pregnant.
Didn't it bother you to kill her?
569
00:51:43,834 --> 00:51:46,530
I thought you understood.
570
00:51:47,137 --> 00:51:48,934
I loved her.
571
00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:53,736
And in order for me to kill her, I was
killing part of myself when I killed her.
572
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:57,004
In fact, Charlie gave us instructions
to mutilate them.
573
00:51:57,180 --> 00:51:59,580
We were gonna cut out the baby
if we had time.
574
00:51:59,749 --> 00:52:01,774
I gotta go to the can.
575
00:52:01,952 --> 00:52:05,319
You know the other two? The next night?
576
00:52:06,189 --> 00:52:08,783
LaBiancas.
577
00:52:11,394 --> 00:52:12,759
Well, what do you think?
578
00:52:15,932 --> 00:52:18,799
And there's more. Before...
579
00:52:18,969 --> 00:52:21,904
...one guy, we cut his head off.
580
00:52:22,072 --> 00:52:26,202
Three more out in the desert,
and more besides.
581
00:52:27,744 --> 00:52:31,874
At least 11. Eleven they'll never solve.
582
00:52:32,582 --> 00:52:35,710
And there's gonna be plenty more to come.
583
00:52:36,019 --> 00:52:39,785
We're gonna pick out some
of the biggest pigs and execute them...
584
00:52:39,956 --> 00:52:41,947
...and release them from this Earth.
585
00:52:46,229 --> 00:52:50,791
You have to have a real love in your heart
for people to do this for them.
586
00:52:50,967 --> 00:52:53,697
- You know?
- I gotta go to the can.
587
00:52:56,506 --> 00:52:59,339
I'll let you get some sleep.
588
00:54:07,210 --> 00:54:11,374
Sergeant, my life could be in danger
if anybody catches me talking to you.
589
00:54:11,548 --> 00:54:15,814
I know who killed Sharon Tate,
and I wanna talk to the lieutenant, please.
590
00:54:15,986 --> 00:54:19,012
You know who killed Tate,
and you want the lieutenant?
591
00:54:19,189 --> 00:54:22,317
- I'll tell him.
- Real soon, please.
592
00:54:22,492 --> 00:54:24,289
- I said, I'd tell him.
- Okay.
593
00:54:24,461 --> 00:54:27,794
Now get back in line and go to lunch
with the other girls.
594
00:54:41,244 --> 00:54:43,269
- Did you ask him?
- Ask who?
595
00:54:43,446 --> 00:54:48,850
Oh. Yeah. He wants more details to see
if you knew what you were talking about.
596
00:54:49,019 --> 00:54:52,648
Okay. Could we go someplace else private?
597
00:54:57,627 --> 00:55:01,028
I happen to know that the killers
did not cut out the baby.
598
00:55:01,197 --> 00:55:07,432
So you tell her that her informant is either
lying or unreliable. Quit wasting our time.
599
00:55:11,007 --> 00:55:14,875
Sergeant Broom, that's not what I said.
I didn't say she cut out the baby.
600
00:55:15,045 --> 00:55:19,675
She wanted to cut out the baby. They
wanted to do all these other kinds of things.
601
00:55:19,849 --> 00:55:23,808
And they didn't have the time.
That's what I told you.
602
00:55:23,987 --> 00:55:26,512
I think we've bothered
the lieutenant enough.
603
00:55:27,123 --> 00:55:29,284
- No.
- The matter is closed.
604
00:55:32,962 --> 00:55:34,224
Oh, my God.
605
00:55:41,571 --> 00:55:44,563
Here, take these.
You go to court today, don't you?
606
00:55:44,808 --> 00:55:48,175
- Well, it's nothing to get thrown about.
- Oh, it's not that.
607
00:55:48,345 --> 00:55:51,007
I'm just nervous.
608
00:56:15,004 --> 00:56:19,566
I'll give you each 50 cents if you
let me get in front of you in this line.
609
00:56:19,743 --> 00:56:23,543
- Cash?
- Yeah. Here, look.
610
00:56:24,381 --> 00:56:26,178
Come on.
611
00:56:26,983 --> 00:56:29,884
- Deal.
- Oh, thanks a lot.
612
00:56:38,428 --> 00:56:41,727
Bus for the court leaves in four minutes.
613
00:56:44,501 --> 00:56:47,299
Yeah, well, what do you want me to do?
614
00:56:48,104 --> 00:56:50,834
I know, I know.
615
00:56:55,578 --> 00:56:57,739
The lawyer said-
616
00:56:59,883 --> 00:57:05,412
Hello, is this Homicide?
Oh, my name is Ronnie Howard.
617
00:57:05,588 --> 00:57:07,852
And I- What?
618
00:57:08,024 --> 00:57:09,514
Howard. Yes, sir.
619
00:57:09,692 --> 00:57:14,857
I wanna report that I know the people
that committed some of the murders...
620
00:57:15,031 --> 00:57:20,663
...that you are presently working on
the cases right now. Yes, sir. And-
621
00:57:21,438 --> 00:57:25,340
Ronnie Howard, sir. Yes.
622
00:57:25,508 --> 00:57:28,500
Which ones? Well...
623
00:57:29,612 --> 00:57:32,638
Sharon Tate is one of them, sir.
624
00:57:34,117 --> 00:57:37,609
If we don't find the gun and tie it to
Manson, we have nothing on him...
625
00:57:37,787 --> 00:57:39,118
...except hearsay.
626
00:57:39,289 --> 00:57:42,087
None of the statements places him
at the murder scenes.
627
00:57:42,258 --> 00:57:46,752
But he ordered these killings!
He ordered Shea, Tate, Hinman, LaBianca.
628
00:57:46,930 --> 00:57:49,592
- He's as guilty as Hitler.
- Can we prove it?
629
00:57:49,766 --> 00:57:53,224
- Not yet.
- Then we better go with what we got.
630
00:57:53,403 --> 00:57:56,304
- What have we got?
- Susan Atkins.
631
00:57:56,473 --> 00:57:59,965
- L.A.P.D. wants to make a deal with her.
- No way. Immunity for her?
632
00:58:00,143 --> 00:58:04,375
If what she told Ronnie Howard is true,
she personally killed Hinman and Tate.
633
00:58:04,547 --> 00:58:08,210
- We don't give her anything.
- We may have no choice.
634
00:58:08,384 --> 00:58:11,820
Chief Davis doesn't want her
to walk away any more than you do.
635
00:58:11,988 --> 00:58:15,116
But the public pressure
on him is unbelievable.
636
00:58:15,291 --> 00:58:18,124
Every time he shows his face,
a reporter asks him:
637
00:58:18,294 --> 00:58:22,458
"What, if anything, is happening on Tate?"
He is being pilloried by the press.
638
00:58:22,632 --> 00:58:26,796
- Aaron, just give me some time.
- We don't have time!
639
00:58:27,470 --> 00:58:32,032
Inyo County can't hold Manson forever
on that arson charge.
640
00:58:32,208 --> 00:58:38,579
He'll disappear the minute they spring him,
unless we make a case against him, fast.
641
00:58:39,082 --> 00:58:40,811
Motive.
642
00:58:41,885 --> 00:58:43,648
We need a motive, Vince.
643
00:58:44,053 --> 00:58:48,012
What would be the motive
for the Tate slaughter?
644
00:58:48,458 --> 00:58:50,551
- Robbery?
- No, no. It can't be robbery.
645
00:58:50,727 --> 00:58:54,663
- Too much valuable property left behind.
- That's right.
646
00:58:55,064 --> 00:58:58,090
Well, you know how tough it is
to prove conspiracy, Vince.
647
00:58:58,268 --> 00:59:01,465
And that's what we gotta prove
if we're gonna convict Manson.
648
00:59:01,638 --> 00:59:03,572
Right, right, right.
649
00:59:03,740 --> 00:59:07,699
You gonna prove that Manson's domination
over these hippies is so great...
650
00:59:07,877 --> 00:59:12,576
...that he ordered them to commit
seven seemingly unmotivated murders?
651
00:59:12,749 --> 00:59:14,683
And they obeyed?
652
00:59:15,785 --> 00:59:17,685
Good luck with the jury on that one.
653
00:59:25,061 --> 00:59:28,622
The Panamint Mountain Range.
The western edge of Death Valley.
654
00:59:28,798 --> 00:59:32,632
Three months after the killings.
Frank Fowles, DA of Inyo County...
655
00:59:32,802 --> 00:59:37,205
...guides a search party to Barker Ranch,
where the Family lived for over a month...
656
00:59:37,373 --> 00:59:41,969
...prior to their arrest in October.
- Now, you're sure this trip was necessary?
657
01:00:18,214 --> 01:00:22,480
You mean to tell me, Manson drove
that bus up the way we just came?
658
01:00:23,586 --> 01:00:28,182
He brought it up here from the Vegas side,
which is only a little less rough.
659
01:00:28,358 --> 01:00:31,691
It'll never be driven out of here,
I can tell you that.
660
01:00:41,904 --> 01:00:44,737
These magazines all have
an article on Hitler in them.
661
01:00:44,907 --> 01:00:47,671
Oh, Charlie's a Hitler nut...
662
01:00:48,344 --> 01:00:50,437
...among other things.
663
01:00:51,114 --> 01:00:55,483
Vince, I have never heard anything
like the report...
664
01:00:55,652 --> 01:00:58,883
...the raiding officers turned in
on this gang up here.
665
01:00:59,055 --> 01:01:05,324
Drugs, sex orgies, dozens of girls
running around naked.
666
01:01:05,828 --> 01:01:09,730
Hell, they were charging
all over the landscape...
667
01:01:09,899 --> 01:01:12,868
...in a bunch of dune buggies
they brought up here.
668
01:01:13,036 --> 01:01:17,871
They had field phones strung
all over the area.
669
01:01:20,209 --> 01:01:24,669
You- You know this Charlie
thinks he's Jesus Christ.
670
01:01:24,847 --> 01:01:26,872
Yeah, so I heard.
671
01:01:28,685 --> 01:01:30,277
Vince...
672
01:01:30,987 --> 01:01:34,980
...what exactly are you looking for?
- Remember that. 22 I told you about?
673
01:01:35,158 --> 01:01:38,127
Come on, there are no guns here.
674
01:01:38,294 --> 01:01:41,195
This place has been gone over
with a fine-toothed comb.
675
01:01:41,364 --> 01:01:43,628
Well, at the LaBianca residence...
676
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,769
...the credit cards were stolen,
and her driver's license.
677
01:01:46,936 --> 01:01:48,995
Maybe they stole some dresses.
678
01:01:49,172 --> 01:01:50,434
Hey.
679
01:01:50,606 --> 01:01:55,737
- These dresses come from good stores.
- Maybe we can find some blood stains.
680
01:01:55,912 --> 01:01:59,609
At the Tate residence, a killer left
a bloody heel print on the porch.
681
01:01:59,782 --> 01:02:03,741
There was a little mark, a little indentation.
If I could match that up...
682
01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:21,395
- Hey, Ross, did you find anything?
- Oh, yeah, everything except blood.
683
01:02:21,571 --> 01:02:26,304
This is the filthiest mess of clothes I've
seen. It should be cleaned, then burned.
684
01:02:26,476 --> 01:02:28,535
- What time you got?
-3:30.
685
01:02:28,711 --> 01:02:33,614
- Already? You sure about that thing?
- Within a minute, you could bet on it.
686
01:02:33,783 --> 01:02:38,982
It gets dark early up here.
I think we should start back.
687
01:02:39,756 --> 01:02:44,352
Independence, California,
November 21, 1969.
688
01:02:52,802 --> 01:02:57,933
Lisa Armbruster, 25, also known as Richie.
Married name, Mrs. Charles Nicholas.
689
01:02:58,107 --> 01:03:04,239
Cindy Jane Orelia, 21, also known as
Freckles, also known as Martha Ellen Fry.
690
01:03:12,789 --> 01:03:15,053
Excuse me, girls.
I've been looking for you.
691
01:03:15,224 --> 01:03:17,954
Aren't you Cindy and Lisa?
692
01:03:19,428 --> 01:03:24,422
- I'm Vincent Bugliosi.
- Oh, the DA from L.A.?
693
01:03:25,134 --> 01:03:27,659
Did you enjoy your trip to the ranch?
694
01:03:27,837 --> 01:03:32,501
We visited Charlie in the jailhouse.
He told us you were there.
695
01:03:32,675 --> 01:03:36,509
Well, how'd you girls like to have
a little chat with me this afternoon?
696
01:03:37,780 --> 01:03:40,772
Sure, if you'll buy us some candy.
697
01:03:46,589 --> 01:03:51,526
You two are the first actual members of the
Manson Family I've had a chance to talk to.
698
01:03:52,528 --> 01:03:56,521
- You seem very happy.
- We are.
699
01:03:56,699 --> 01:04:01,102
- Mr. Fowles has a very nice office.
- Are you always this happy?
700
01:04:02,371 --> 01:04:05,135
- What's the secret?
- We found the truth.
701
01:04:05,842 --> 01:04:08,743
- What's the truth?
- Charlie is love.
702
01:04:09,579 --> 01:04:12,707
Charlie is love. Is that it?
703
01:04:12,882 --> 01:04:17,410
- How do you mean, the male-female sense?
- Well, that's it, but that's only a part.
704
01:04:17,587 --> 01:04:21,489
- Love is love. You can't define it.
- Did Charlie teach you that?
705
01:04:23,025 --> 01:04:27,758
Charlie taught us to look at ourselves
and see the love within.
706
01:04:33,202 --> 01:04:36,831
When you accompanied Charlie
up to Barker Ranch in that bus...
707
01:04:37,006 --> 01:04:40,066
...how did he get it over the washouts?
- He flew it.
708
01:04:40,610 --> 01:04:42,134
You mean-?
709
01:04:42,578 --> 01:04:46,241
You actually believe Charlie made
the bus fly over the washouts?
710
01:04:47,583 --> 01:04:49,483
Oh, we were there.
711
01:04:50,486 --> 01:04:52,750
Do you believe he's Jesus Christ?
712
01:05:00,363 --> 01:05:03,890
When you were at Spahn Ranch,
Charlie assigned you to keep house...
713
01:05:04,066 --> 01:05:08,093
...for George Spahn. Is that right?
- Yes. I love George.
714
01:05:08,271 --> 01:05:11,240
Is your love for Charlie different
than for George Spahn?
715
01:05:11,407 --> 01:05:14,205
No. Love is love.
716
01:05:14,377 --> 01:05:16,743
Come on.
George Spahn is over 80 years old.
717
01:05:17,013 --> 01:05:22,315
I'm in love with George. If he asked
me to marry him, I would.
718
01:05:22,485 --> 01:05:26,012
He's a beautiful person inside.
719
01:05:26,455 --> 01:05:28,685
And he's a good lover too.
720
01:05:29,458 --> 01:05:32,894
Actually, I'm not very interested
in your sex life, Cindy.
721
01:05:33,262 --> 01:05:36,288
What I am very, very interested in
is what you may know...
722
01:05:36,465 --> 01:05:39,457
...about the Tate, Hinman,
LaBianca and other murders.
723
01:05:39,635 --> 01:05:46,063
- We don't know anything about any crimes.
- All we know or care about is love.
724
01:05:47,944 --> 01:05:49,343
I see.
725
01:05:49,512 --> 01:05:54,415
Well, do you mind telling me where you two
were on the nights of August 8 and 9?
726
01:05:54,583 --> 01:05:57,677
There's no such thing as time.
727
01:05:58,788 --> 01:06:00,847
There's only love.
728
01:06:10,733 --> 01:06:16,000
Okay, Charlie, let's get going.
Gate's open. Unlocked.
729
01:06:18,541 --> 01:06:20,168
Gate open.
730
01:06:24,246 --> 01:06:26,806
Okay, Charlie. Let's go.
731
01:06:28,684 --> 01:06:34,213
Charlie, tell me, what is it you got against
these earthmoving machines anyhow?
732
01:06:34,390 --> 01:06:37,553
That's the pigs ripping off nature, man.
733
01:06:37,727 --> 01:06:40,855
Is that a fact?
Well, let's go. Come on.
734
01:07:04,854 --> 01:07:07,345
Three months after
the Tate-LaBianca murders...
735
01:07:07,523 --> 01:07:10,686
...Manson is arraigned at the
Inyo-Kern County courthouse...
736
01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:14,091
...for the destruction of the county's
earthmoving equipment.
737
01:07:16,766 --> 01:07:22,227
I understand Manson's going to plead
not guilty to setting fire to that machine.
738
01:07:22,405 --> 01:07:25,568
- He'll get bail.
- Ask for as high a bail as possible.
739
01:07:25,741 --> 01:07:28,869
You can hold him till I'm ready
for the grand jury in L.A.
740
01:07:29,045 --> 01:07:30,842
Okay.
741
01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:39,486
Five deputies for me? What do you
gentlemen do when you get a real baddy?
742
01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:50,695
- That's Jesus Christ.
- What'd you do with his disciples?
743
01:07:50,933 --> 01:07:54,266
They sound alike, say the same
thing, nobody tells me anything.
744
01:07:54,437 --> 01:07:59,636
That's telling me something. Manson
is exercising domination over these girls.
745
01:08:01,944 --> 01:08:05,004
The way we can get them to talk
is to bring them to L.A...
746
01:08:05,181 --> 01:08:07,775
...away from him,
and question them separately.
747
01:08:07,950 --> 01:08:13,149
The wandering troubadour act of his. It's
part of a con to get us to underestimate him.
748
01:08:13,489 --> 01:08:16,788
If he looks like he's gonna
make bail, give me a call in L.A.
749
01:08:16,959 --> 01:08:18,517
Okay.
750
01:08:32,308 --> 01:08:37,405
The Manson girls are transferred from
Independence to L.A. County jurisdiction.
751
01:08:56,165 --> 01:08:58,565
Pigs, bye-bye.
752
01:09:14,483 --> 01:09:18,579
I've talked to the girls, Danny, and I
believe Manson had enough domination...
753
01:09:18,754 --> 01:09:22,588
...to send them to do anything.
- Not just the girls. Clem, Tex, Bobby-
754
01:09:22,758 --> 01:09:28,162
Why? Why would he send them to kill
Sharon Tate and everybody in that house?
755
01:09:28,364 --> 01:09:31,527
They didn't go there to rob them.
They didn't take anything.
756
01:09:31,700 --> 01:09:36,694
See, Charlie taught the Family
that pigs just deserve to die.
757
01:09:36,906 --> 01:09:38,931
I mean, that's all they were good for.
758
01:09:39,108 --> 01:09:43,442
He wanted to kill the pigs, blame it
on the niggers and start a race war.
759
01:09:43,612 --> 01:09:45,705
Why a race war?
760
01:09:47,316 --> 01:09:48,840
Well...
761
01:09:49,685 --> 01:09:54,088
...Charlie was always preaching
that the karma was turning, you know?
762
01:09:54,256 --> 01:09:56,986
And it was blackies
turn to be on top.
763
01:09:57,159 --> 01:10:01,425
- But why?
- I don't know. That's just what he said.
764
01:10:02,264 --> 01:10:04,789
Who did he call pigs?
765
01:10:05,801 --> 01:10:07,166
The establishment.
766
01:10:08,737 --> 01:10:12,195
Pigs. They use that word a lot,
don't they?
767
01:10:13,943 --> 01:10:15,740
That's right.
768
01:10:16,879 --> 01:10:18,107
All the time.
769
01:10:18,614 --> 01:10:21,276
Well, if the other girls
talked like you say, fine.
770
01:10:22,885 --> 01:10:24,853
More power to you.
Why do you need me?
771
01:10:25,020 --> 01:10:28,979
Leslie Van Houten is interrogated by
Sergeant O'Neal of homicide, L.A.P.D.
772
01:10:29,158 --> 01:10:31,820
I wanna know who was involved.
773
01:10:32,361 --> 01:10:35,057
I wanna know how it went down,
all the details.
774
01:10:35,231 --> 01:10:38,689
I said I'd talk about it
if I changed my mind.
775
01:10:38,867 --> 01:10:41,199
I haven't changed my mind yet.
776
01:10:41,370 --> 01:10:43,634
You're gonna have
to talk about it someday.
777
01:10:43,806 --> 01:10:46,866
Maybe, but not today.
778
01:10:47,042 --> 01:10:52,207
Hey, how did you
ever trace it back to Spahn?
779
01:10:53,282 --> 01:10:55,910
Who did you see leave
the night of August 8?
780
01:10:56,085 --> 01:11:01,717
I went to bed early that night.
Really, I don't want to talk about it.
781
01:11:04,493 --> 01:11:08,156
- Why are you trying to protect them?
- I don't need to protect nobody.
782
01:11:08,330 --> 01:11:11,197
You couldn't meet
a nicer bunch of people.
783
01:11:11,367 --> 01:11:14,336
The Family's no more, Leslie.
Charlie's in jail.
784
01:11:14,503 --> 01:11:16,095
- Not for long.
- Clem's in jail.
785
01:11:16,272 --> 01:11:18,672
Boots killed himself
playing Russian roulette.
786
01:11:18,841 --> 01:11:20,365
Boots dead?
787
01:11:20,976 --> 01:11:23,968
Playing Russian roulette? How?
Who else was there?
788
01:11:24,146 --> 01:11:26,273
- Cisco Budge.
- Was Cisco playing too?
789
01:11:26,448 --> 01:11:27,779
No.
790
01:11:29,084 --> 01:11:32,212
Boots was playing
Russian roulette all by himself.
791
01:11:32,688 --> 01:11:34,656
Kind of odd, isn't it?
792
01:11:35,124 --> 01:11:37,285
Yeah, it's odd.
793
01:11:38,961 --> 01:11:40,656
Leslie...
794
01:11:40,829 --> 01:11:45,027
...we know that five people went to the
Tate residence. Three girls and two men.
795
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:46,997
We know that one was Charles.
796
01:11:47,202 --> 01:11:50,228
I don't think Charlie
was in on any of them.
797
01:11:50,406 --> 01:11:54,137
There were only four people went
up there and three of them were girls.
798
01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:57,211
I heard one girl didn't murder
anyone while they was-
799
01:11:57,379 --> 01:12:00,109
- They were up there.
- No? Who was that?
800
01:12:00,582 --> 01:12:02,140
Girl by the name of Linda.
801
01:12:02,318 --> 01:12:03,649
- Linda who?
- I don't know.
802
01:12:03,819 --> 01:12:07,050
- Who told you she was there?
- I don't remember!
803
01:12:08,424 --> 01:12:12,155
I don't remember who told me little details.
804
01:12:13,228 --> 01:12:18,962
Susan Atkins told 15 people in the jailhouse
she was there and that she took part in it.
805
01:12:19,134 --> 01:12:21,466
That's incredible.
806
01:12:24,173 --> 01:12:26,539
Didn't she mention anyone else?
807
01:12:26,709 --> 01:12:30,110
- Charlie and Katie.
- Not Charlie. Charles.
808
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:33,009
He's Tex. Tex Watson.
809
01:12:35,150 --> 01:12:39,644
- She mentioned Tex and Katie?
- That's right.
810
01:12:40,923 --> 01:12:43,357
That's pretty nauseating.
811
01:12:47,162 --> 01:12:51,656
She said that Katie was there. Now,
I know that Katie's Patricia Krenwinkel.
812
01:12:51,867 --> 01:12:55,166
And you know that Katie's
Patricia Krenwinkel.
813
01:12:57,973 --> 01:13:01,067
She said she went out the next night
and killed two people.
814
01:13:01,477 --> 01:13:03,638
Sadie said that?
815
01:13:05,214 --> 01:13:08,206
I'm not saying another word.
Nothing!
816
01:13:09,818 --> 01:13:12,946
Leslie, when you help me,
you're helping yourself.
817
01:13:13,756 --> 01:13:18,318
If Boots was found playing Russian roulette,
I could be found playing Russian roulette.
818
01:13:18,894 --> 01:13:24,457
- We'll give you 24-hour protection.
- Oh, that would really be nice.
819
01:13:25,067 --> 01:13:28,264
I'd rather stay in jail.
820
01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:39,643
Based on inadvertent bits of information
leaked by Leslie Van Houten and others...
821
01:13:39,815 --> 01:13:44,946
...and interviews with detectives, L.A.P.D.
issues warrants for arrests of three persons.
822
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,884
That's right, sheriff,
Charles Denton Watson.
823
01:13:48,056 --> 01:13:52,356
Male Caucasian, 6-feet-2,
160 pounds...
824
01:13:52,528 --> 01:13:57,227
...slim build, ruddy complexion,
born December 2, 1945.
825
01:13:57,399 --> 01:13:59,367
-5-foot-3.
-187 P.C. Murder.
826
01:14:02,738 --> 01:14:07,675
22 years old, brown hair, blue eyes.
That's correct, sir.
827
01:14:07,843 --> 01:14:11,677
Krenwinkel, Patricia. 187 P.C.
828
01:14:11,847 --> 01:14:17,376
Linda Kasabian, age 20, no physical
description, present address unknown.
829
01:14:17,553 --> 01:14:19,714
- Hi, Vince.
- How you doing?
830
01:14:20,355 --> 01:14:23,153
Talked to Sheriff Ansel
in Watson's hometown in Texas.
831
01:14:23,325 --> 01:14:25,623
Watson's there.
Sheriff's gonna pick him up.
832
01:14:25,794 --> 01:14:29,890
Ansel, Ansel. Watson used that name.
He's using his hometown sheriff's name?
833
01:14:30,065 --> 01:14:32,863
- Second cousins.
- I smell extradition problems.
834
01:14:33,035 --> 01:14:34,434
- Maybe good news.
- What?
835
01:14:34,603 --> 01:14:38,869
Watson was busted on a drug charge
in Van Nuys on April 23 and fingerprinted.
836
01:14:39,041 --> 01:14:42,704
I sent the fingerprints down
to latent print section on rush order.
837
01:14:42,878 --> 01:14:45,574
- You come up with anything?
- We're working on it.
838
01:14:45,747 --> 01:14:48,238
When we find it, we'll give it to you.
839
01:14:51,386 --> 01:14:52,785
Right.
840
01:14:53,822 --> 01:14:55,221
Thank you.
841
01:14:57,759 --> 01:14:59,784
Print on Watson's right ring finger...
842
01:14:59,962 --> 01:15:03,523
...matches the latent thumb
on the front door to the Tate residence.
843
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:11,662
I'll buy you a cup of coffee. That's
the first piece of physical evidence...
844
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,638
...connecting any of the suspects
to the crime scene.
845
01:15:14,810 --> 01:15:18,143
- What about Manson?
- Not one of the five girls will discuss him.
846
01:15:18,313 --> 01:15:22,113
- Not even Van Houten.
- So the big fish is still out of the net.
847
01:15:22,284 --> 01:15:26,414
- The only shot we have is Atkins, Vince.
- Immunity for the little monster.
848
01:15:26,588 --> 01:15:31,116
- We don't have much choice.
- A minute ago I was happy, now I'm down.
849
01:15:31,293 --> 01:15:34,751
No matter who we convict,
if Charlie and Sadie go free, we failed.
850
01:15:34,930 --> 01:15:39,299
Partial failure, maybe.
Partial isn't as bad as total failure.
851
01:15:39,668 --> 01:15:43,695
Somehow judging my life by the size
of my failures doesn't really grab me.
852
01:15:45,841 --> 01:15:48,901
Concord, NH. Three months,
two weeks after the slayings...
853
01:15:49,077 --> 01:15:53,309
...Linda Kasabian, hearing that a warrant
is out for her, surrenders to police.
854
01:15:56,785 --> 01:15:58,150
In McKinney, Texas...
855
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:02,347
...Sergeant Phil Cohen telephones
his report to L.A.P.D.
856
01:16:03,692 --> 01:16:09,255
The sheriff, Ansel, won't let us talk
to Watson or even take his fingerprints.
857
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:13,167
I don't know.
858
01:16:13,335 --> 01:16:17,203
We're not gonna get much cooperation
from these good old boys down here...
859
01:16:17,372 --> 01:16:20,136
...as far as getting Watson
to L.A. To stand trial.
860
01:16:22,911 --> 01:16:25,971
Listen. Before we go in, Dennis,
let's check signals.
861
01:16:26,148 --> 01:16:27,945
I want this to be a short meeting.
862
01:16:28,116 --> 01:16:30,914
This is to confirm with the DA
what we've discussed.
863
01:16:31,086 --> 01:16:34,453
The best deal that we can give Susan
is if she cooperates...
864
01:16:34,623 --> 01:16:39,583
...and testifies truthfully before the jury
about the Hinman, Tate, LaBianca cases...
865
01:16:39,761 --> 01:16:44,494
...then we will not seek the death penalty
against her in those cases, okay?
866
01:16:44,666 --> 01:16:49,296
You won't use her testimony against her
or her codefendants at the trial.
867
01:16:49,471 --> 01:16:52,372
- We're getting the short end.
- She's all we've got.
868
01:16:52,541 --> 01:16:56,204
At least we'll get indictments.
I don't want a lot of renegotiation...
869
01:16:56,378 --> 01:16:58,676
...to start after we get in Younger's office.
- I'm with you.
870
01:16:58,847 --> 01:17:00,974
- He knows how lucky he is.
- Aaron, Vince!
871
01:17:01,149 --> 01:17:04,084
- Lieutenant, you know Dennis?
- I've seen him around.
872
01:17:04,252 --> 01:17:07,050
- Could I speak to you alone?
- I'll meet you inside.
873
01:17:07,222 --> 01:17:09,053
Right. Right, guy.
874
01:17:09,791 --> 01:17:12,589
We got an exemplar
of Krenwinkel's prints from Mobile.
875
01:17:12,761 --> 01:17:15,252
The print of the little finger
on her left hand...
876
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:19,093
...matches a latent that Gerebone lifted
off a door in Tate's bedroom.
877
01:17:19,267 --> 01:17:21,167
- You do good work.
- Most of the time.
878
01:17:21,336 --> 01:17:24,169
- Who's your friend?
- It's great having physical evidence...
879
01:17:24,339 --> 01:17:27,797
...but I've gotta have the 22 Buntline
and a case against Manson.
880
01:17:36,918 --> 01:17:40,786
Now you know that the grand jury
proceedings are secret...
881
01:17:43,025 --> 01:17:45,687
Thank you very much, gentlemen!
Thank you.
882
01:17:50,532 --> 01:17:56,198
- Where did you first meet Charlie?
- I was living in his house in Haight-Ashbury.
883
01:17:56,371 --> 01:18:00,068
Were there other young men and
women living in that house with you?
884
01:18:00,242 --> 01:18:01,869
Oh, sure.
885
01:18:02,044 --> 01:18:06,276
Would it be fair and accurate to say
that as a group you were into drugs?
886
01:18:06,448 --> 01:18:08,916
Sure, that would be accurate.
887
01:18:09,084 --> 01:18:12,281
- Shall I get back to Charlie?
- Yes, go ahead, please.
888
01:18:13,522 --> 01:18:17,754
Charlie's looking at us right now,
and he can hear everything we're saying.
889
01:18:17,926 --> 01:18:20,588
Susan, Charlie is up
in Independence, in jail.
890
01:18:23,532 --> 01:18:26,160
You're not capable of understanding.
891
01:18:26,501 --> 01:18:28,401
Well...
892
01:18:29,271 --> 01:18:32,707
...I was sitting in the living room,
this is about two years ago...
893
01:18:33,075 --> 01:18:36,374
...and a man walked in,
and he had a guitar with him.
894
01:18:36,545 --> 01:18:40,675
And all of a sudden he was surrounded
by girls, and he started to sing.
895
01:18:40,849 --> 01:18:42,942
He sounded like an angel.
896
01:18:43,118 --> 01:18:46,485
- You are referring to Charles Manson?
- Yes.
897
01:18:47,656 --> 01:18:50,750
A couple of days later,
he asked me to go for a walk...
898
01:18:50,926 --> 01:18:54,828
...and we walked a couple
of blocks to another house...
899
01:18:54,996 --> 01:18:57,692
...and he told me he wanted
to make love with me.
900
01:18:57,866 --> 01:19:01,495
I acknowledged the fact
that I wanted to make love with him.
901
01:19:01,670 --> 01:19:05,800
And when I had all my clothes off,
he told me...
902
01:19:05,974 --> 01:19:09,466
...to go over to the mirror
and look at myself.
903
01:19:10,979 --> 01:19:16,178
I didn't wanna do it, but he took me
by the hand and made me do it.
904
01:19:17,753 --> 01:19:21,655
And he said,
"Go ahead and look at yourself.
905
01:19:21,823 --> 01:19:25,691
There's nothing wrong with you.
You're perfect.
906
01:19:25,861 --> 01:19:28,227
You always have been perfect. "
907
01:19:29,297 --> 01:19:34,291
- Did you have sexual intercourse with him?
- Yes.
908
01:19:34,669 --> 01:19:37,229
Was there any limit to what
you would do for him?
909
01:19:37,939 --> 01:19:40,965
- No.
- Did you steal for him?
910
01:19:41,877 --> 01:19:47,474
For him? Well, I stole. We all stole.
Credit cards, cars, other things.
911
01:19:47,716 --> 01:19:50,742
Did Charlie Manson
ask you to steal for him?
912
01:19:50,919 --> 01:19:55,481
No, I took it upon myself.
I was...
913
01:19:55,657 --> 01:19:59,252
- We get programmed.
- Programmed by Charlie?
914
01:20:00,328 --> 01:20:02,990
By Charlie, but...
915
01:20:04,299 --> 01:20:07,166
It's hard for me to explain it so that...
916
01:20:07,335 --> 01:20:12,568
...you can see the way-
The way I see.
917
01:20:12,741 --> 01:20:18,077
The words that would come from Charlie's
mouth would not come from inside him.
918
01:20:18,246 --> 01:20:22,307
They would come from-
From what I call the infinite.
919
01:20:23,151 --> 01:20:27,212
- The infinite?
- Yes. The infinite.
920
01:20:38,033 --> 01:20:44,268
On the eighth of August, did Charlie
instruct you and other members to do anything?
921
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:48,637
Well, I never recall getting any actual
instructions from Charlie, other than...
922
01:20:48,810 --> 01:20:55,010
...getting a change of clothing and a knife
and was told to do what Tex told me to do.
923
01:20:55,183 --> 01:20:58,277
Did he tell you the type
of clothing you should take?
924
01:20:58,453 --> 01:21:01,047
He said to wear dark clothes.
925
01:21:01,489 --> 01:21:03,650
And who went with you that night?
926
01:21:04,159 --> 01:21:06,286
Katie, Tex and Linda.
927
01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:15,693
And Tex said we were going to a house
that used to belong to Terry Melcher.
928
01:21:15,871 --> 01:21:20,171
The only reason we were going there was
because Tex knew the outline of the house.
929
01:21:20,342 --> 01:21:24,108
Did Tex tell you why you were going
to Terry Melcher's former residence?
930
01:21:24,279 --> 01:21:27,248
To get all the money
and kill whoever was there.
931
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:31,883
Didn't make any difference who.
You were told to kill them all?
932
01:21:32,053 --> 01:21:33,520
Yes.
933
01:21:33,688 --> 01:21:37,522
- Did all of you girls enter at the same time?
- Only two of us entered.
934
01:21:37,692 --> 01:21:40,490
- One stayed outside.
- And who stayed outside?
935
01:21:40,662 --> 01:21:42,789
Linda Kasabian.
936
01:21:47,035 --> 01:21:51,904
And Frykowski ran for the front door,
yelling for somebody to come and help him.
937
01:21:52,073 --> 01:21:56,567
When he did, Tex got to him and started
hitting him over the head with the gun butt.
938
01:21:56,745 --> 01:22:00,237
When the gun butt broke,
he started stabbing him.
939
01:22:01,383 --> 01:22:03,283
Well...
940
01:22:03,451 --> 01:22:08,821
...when I came out of the house, I saw
Tex stabbing Abigail Folger three or...
941
01:22:08,990 --> 01:22:11,356
I don't know how many times.
942
01:22:11,526 --> 01:22:15,121
Katie and I were looking for Linda
because she wasn't around.
943
01:22:15,764 --> 01:22:19,200
Then Tex went over to where
the other man was on the lawn.
944
01:22:19,567 --> 01:22:21,501
- Frykowski?
- Yes.
945
01:22:21,870 --> 01:22:23,861
And Tex kicked him in the head...
946
01:22:24,039 --> 01:22:28,203
...and the body didn't move very much,
and I believe it was dead at the time.
947
01:22:31,212 --> 01:22:33,806
We have a juror who
would like to be excused...
948
01:22:33,982 --> 01:22:37,383
...for just a couple of minutes.
949
01:22:51,833 --> 01:22:54,927
And then Tex told me
to go back in the house...
950
01:22:55,103 --> 01:22:57,503
...and write something
in the victim's blood.
951
01:22:57,672 --> 01:23:00,641
"Something that would shock
the world," he said.
952
01:23:01,643 --> 01:23:05,773
Well, I'd previously been involved
in something similar to this...
953
01:23:05,947 --> 01:23:08,939
...where I saw "political piggy"
written on the wall.
954
01:23:09,117 --> 01:23:11,551
So that stuck very heavily in my mind.
955
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:18,148
So I went back in the house and walked
over to Sharon Tate, and I heard sounds.
956
01:23:19,861 --> 01:23:22,022
What kind of sounds were they?
957
01:23:22,764 --> 01:23:27,064
Gurgling sounds, like blood flowing
into the body out of the heart.
958
01:23:28,036 --> 01:23:29,936
What did you do then?
959
01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:36,302
I picked up the towel,
turned my head and touched her chest...
960
01:23:36,478 --> 01:23:41,211
...and at the same time,
I saw that she was pregnant.
961
01:23:41,383 --> 01:23:47,686
And I knew that there was a living
being inside of that body, and I wanted to...
962
01:23:47,856 --> 01:23:51,383
...but I didn't have the courage
to go ahead and take it.
963
01:23:54,896 --> 01:23:58,195
I took the towel
with Sharon Tate's blood...
964
01:23:58,366 --> 01:24:03,702
...walked over to the door,
and with the towel wrote "pig" on the door.
965
01:24:09,878 --> 01:24:14,372
And when we got back to the ranch,
Charlie was waiting for us.
966
01:24:14,549 --> 01:24:18,007
He wanted to know
what we were doing home so early.
967
01:24:18,186 --> 01:24:21,678
Tex told him basically
what we had done. He said:
968
01:24:21,856 --> 01:24:25,257
"It all happened fast
and there was a lot of panic. "
969
01:24:25,894 --> 01:24:32,163
He said, "Boy, it sure was
helter skelter. " And then...
970
01:24:32,934 --> 01:24:36,597
...I wiped the car down for blood,
and I went to bed.
971
01:24:36,771 --> 01:24:39,638
I made love to someone.
972
01:24:39,808 --> 01:24:45,576
Clem, I think. I'm not sure.
Maybe I imagined it.
973
01:24:49,150 --> 01:24:53,678
Now we come to the second night,
the night of August the ninth.
974
01:24:54,689 --> 01:24:57,920
Well, that evening Charlie told me again...
975
01:24:58,093 --> 01:25:02,496
...to go ahead and get an extra set
of clothing, and I looked at him...
976
01:25:02,664 --> 01:25:04,791
...and I knew what he wanted me to do.
977
01:25:04,966 --> 01:25:08,561
And I gave a sort of sigh and went
and did what he asked me to do.
978
01:25:09,003 --> 01:25:10,698
Who went with you that night?
979
01:25:10,972 --> 01:25:13,839
Charlie and Katie and Tex
and Linda and-
980
01:25:14,008 --> 01:25:17,375
- Charlie went with you that night?
- He was in the car, yes.
981
01:25:17,545 --> 01:25:19,536
- Who else?
- And Leslie.
982
01:25:19,714 --> 01:25:21,705
- Leslie Van Houten?
- Yes.
983
01:25:25,954 --> 01:25:31,324
And then Katie said the woman heard her
husband being killed and started to scream:
984
01:25:31,493 --> 01:25:34,053
"What are you doing to my husband?"
985
01:25:36,064 --> 01:25:39,591
And then Katie said that she
then proceeded to stab the woman.
986
01:25:40,101 --> 01:25:42,331
Katie told you this the next morning?
987
01:25:43,037 --> 01:25:47,371
Like I said, Charlie and Linda and I drove
off after they went into the house.
988
01:25:47,709 --> 01:25:50,678
Leslie was helping Katie
hold the woman down.
989
01:25:50,879 --> 01:25:52,176
Rosemary LaBianca?
990
01:25:52,347 --> 01:25:55,942
We found out later
it was Rosemary LaBianca.
991
01:25:56,951 --> 01:26:00,751
Leslie was helping Katie hold the woman
down because she was fighting...
992
01:26:00,922 --> 01:26:03,083
...all the way up until she died.
993
01:26:04,058 --> 01:26:07,755
Then Katie said she went
in the living room with a fork in her hand...
994
01:26:07,929 --> 01:26:11,524
...looked at the man's stomach,
put the fork in his stomach...
995
01:26:11,699 --> 01:26:14,862
...and watched it wobble back and forth.
996
01:26:17,405 --> 01:26:19,999
She said she carved
the word "war" on his stomach.
997
01:26:20,175 --> 01:26:22,769
Then did Katie, Tex
and Leslie leave the house?
998
01:26:23,511 --> 01:26:27,038
No. First they wrote
some stuff in blood.
999
01:26:27,215 --> 01:26:31,914
"Death to all pigs," I think,
and "Helter Skelter" and "arise. "
1000
01:26:32,086 --> 01:26:35,988
Then they took a shower, went in the
kitchen and made something to eat.
1001
01:26:36,591 --> 01:26:40,823
Susan, what do the words "pig" and "Helter
Skelter" mean to you and your Family?
1002
01:26:41,629 --> 01:26:45,895
"Pig" was a word used
to describe the establishment.
1003
01:26:46,067 --> 01:26:49,935
But you must understand that
all words had no meaning to us.
1004
01:26:50,104 --> 01:26:54,268
- And "Helter Skelter" was explained to me.
- By whom?
1005
01:26:54,442 --> 01:26:55,704
Charlie.
1006
01:26:57,111 --> 01:27:02,811
I don't like to say Charlie. I'd like
to say the words came from his mouth...
1007
01:27:02,984 --> 01:27:07,114
...that Helter Skelter was to be
the last war on the face of the Earth.
1008
01:27:07,288 --> 01:27:13,557
It would be all wars that had been fought
built one on top of the other, something...
1009
01:27:13,728 --> 01:27:17,630
...no man can conceive
in his imagination.
1010
01:27:26,174 --> 01:27:31,874
You can't conceive of what it would be like
to see every man judge himself...
1011
01:27:32,046 --> 01:27:36,745
...and then take it out on every other man
all over the face of the Earth.
1012
01:28:09,183 --> 01:28:12,277
Sunday, December 14, 1969.
1013
01:28:12,453 --> 01:28:14,751
Four months after the murders took place...
1014
01:28:14,922 --> 01:28:18,153
...the world begins to read
Susan Atkins' story of the murders.
1015
01:28:21,663 --> 01:28:25,224
Hey, Charlie. Hear what happened?
1016
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:29,632
Your little tootsie sold her story
to the newspapers. It's all in there.
1017
01:28:29,804 --> 01:28:34,332
How you done it. How they
done it, all on your orders.
1018
01:28:34,876 --> 01:28:37,071
Think you're a big deal, don't you?
1019
01:28:37,245 --> 01:28:41,682
Well, I wanna tell you,
your butt is in a sling.
1020
01:28:42,917 --> 01:28:47,911
Know what they're gonna do to you?
They're gonna walk you the long walk.
1021
01:28:48,623 --> 01:28:51,251
They're gonna drop the pill on you, Charlie.
1022
01:28:53,194 --> 01:28:55,992
What do you think of that, huh? Huh?
1023
01:29:08,710 --> 01:29:11,270
It's the same story she gave the grand jury.
1024
01:29:11,646 --> 01:29:15,138
Can't use that. Can't use this.
1025
01:29:15,316 --> 01:29:18,649
They'll claim a fair trial's impossible.
Too much publicity.
1026
01:29:18,820 --> 01:29:22,153
It's gonna be hard finding
jurors that haven't heard about this.
1027
01:29:22,323 --> 01:29:24,621
This just makes a tough trial tougher.
1028
01:29:25,426 --> 01:29:29,419
Susan's lawyer swears the sale was made
only for European publication.
1029
01:29:29,697 --> 01:29:32,791
He has no idea how The Times
got ahold of the story.
1030
01:29:32,967 --> 01:29:34,434
Just a fortunate accident.
1031
01:29:34,602 --> 01:29:38,698
The Los Angeles County grand jury
hands down the following indictments:
1032
01:29:38,873 --> 01:29:41,603
Leslie Van Houten,
in custody in Los Angeles...
1033
01:29:41,776 --> 01:29:45,712
...two counts of murder and one count
of conspiracy to commit murder.
1034
01:29:46,247 --> 01:29:49,705
Susan Atkins, in custody in Los
Angeles, seven counts of murder...
1035
01:29:49,884 --> 01:29:52,409
...and one count of conspiracy
to commit murder.
1036
01:29:53,454 --> 01:29:56,355
Charles Tex Watson,
in custody in McKinney, Texas...
1037
01:29:56,524 --> 01:29:59,982
...seven counts of murder, one count
of conspiracy to commit murder.
1038
01:30:01,162 --> 01:30:04,359
Patricia Katie Krenwinkel,
in custody in Mobile, Alabama...
1039
01:30:04,532 --> 01:30:08,525
...seven counts of murder and one count
of conspiracy to commit murder.
1040
01:30:14,075 --> 01:30:16,339
Linda Kasabian,
in custody in Los Angeles...
1041
01:30:16,511 --> 01:30:19,639
...seven counts of murder,
one of conspiracy to commit murder.
1042
01:30:21,549 --> 01:30:24,518
Charles Manson,
in custody in Independence, California...
1043
01:30:24,685 --> 01:30:29,019
...seven counts of murder and one count
of conspiracy to commit murder.
1044
01:30:36,130 --> 01:30:37,563
- Hi, Manny.
- Hey, Vince.
1045
01:30:37,732 --> 01:30:42,465
You're not supposed to be walking alone.
You're on Manson's death list.
1046
01:30:42,637 --> 01:30:44,229
Oh, wonderful.
1047
01:30:44,505 --> 01:30:47,599
Glad you came.
I'm doing the arraignments in four minutes.
1048
01:30:47,775 --> 01:30:50,573
Phil and I brought Charlie
from Independence today-
1049
01:30:51,573 --> 01:31:01,573
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