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It's December 1926.
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Agatha Christie has crashed her car,
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leaving it balanced precariously
over a chalk quarry.
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Then she vanishes,
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triggering the biggest manhunt
yet seen in Britain.
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At 36, Agatha Christie was
a successful detective novelist,
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seemingly happily married,
with a young daughter at home.
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Was this crisis, or conspiracy?
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Agatha's disappearance in 1926 is
usually seen as this great
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central mystery in her life.
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I think it's even more interesting
to see the effect it had.
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I think that the trauma
of 1926 turned
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Agatha Christie into the great
woman that she became.
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I've been fascinated by
Agatha Christie since I was a child
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and I think there's much more
to this enigmatic
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and elusive novelist than
meets the eye.
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She subverts what we think we want
and gives us something
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so much more interesting.
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I'm investigating the mysterious
case of Agatha Christie.
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How did this woman,
who grew up a Victorian,
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challenge the expectations
of her age?
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The doctor, the judge,
the general...
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These people, they're just
not who you think they are.
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Let's go! How did her own dark
psychology, her anxieties
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and experiences fuel her writing?
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What made this woman the
best-selling novelist in the world?
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In this series, I want to uncover
the true Agatha Christie.
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I want to explore how the
changes of her lifetime affected
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her writing, and I want to show you
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that she was a pioneering, radical
writer and woman.
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OK, I think that we're nearly there.
Ooh, nettles! Ouch!
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Ah!
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OK... It must be just here.
Surely, we must be nearly there.
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Oh, gosh!
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Ooh! I'm not going to go
too near the edge.
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That is the edge of the cliff
and it really is a cliff.
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Very interesting. You've got to
imagine fewer trees in 1926
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and from the maps I've looked at
and the accounts I've read,
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I'm pretty confident that her car
came off the road
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and then it rolled down across much
more open downlands...
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..landscape then,
and then it got caught in bushes.
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There's really clear descriptions
of the car being caught in a bush
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and what you don't realise till
you get here is that, below,
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would have been this perilous drop.
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I mean, a life-ending drop,
if a car had gone over there.
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Things would only have had to have
been very slightly different,
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you know, for the bush to
have given way,
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the car would have gone over
and she would have been dead.
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But when the police found the car
the next morning,
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its lights still blazing, its owner
had completely disappeared.
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Could it be suicide?
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Or daring hoax?
Or was she the victim of foul play?
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This is the police
report for the incident.
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"The car was found with its bonnet
buried in the bushes,
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"as if it had got out of control.
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"In the car was found a fur coat..."
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Now, why wasn't she wearing this,
if the night was so cold?
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"..a dressing case and a driving
licence..." That's a good clue.
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"..indicating that the owner
was Mrs Agatha Christie."
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A famous detective novelist
vanished,
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maybe even murdered, or kidnapped,
and a series of tantalising clues.
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There were all the ingredients
of the perfect tabloid story
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and the press went to town.
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They found the ideal
cast of characters.
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An attractive woman, of course,
but also Rosalind,
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the seven-year-old daughter
she left behind.
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Archie, the handsome husband who
seemed to have something to hide,
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and pretty young Nancy Neele,
who'd turn out to be Archie's lover.
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The press turned
the story into a sensation.
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Radio was in its infancy,
there was no television,
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and national newspapers
were booming.
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With a new development each day,
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this thrilling story would
sell more papers.
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The Surrey Police played along.
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They were convinced that Agatha
would be found dead on their patch.
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Special attention was paid to the
nearby Silent Pool,
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already the sight of a legendary
drowning
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and just the sort of place to find
a body caught in the weeds.
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You know, as I look through these
photos from the search,
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I have a sneaking suspicion
that everybody was actually rather
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enjoying themselves.
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Look at these gentlemen, who are
very performatively dragging a pond.
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They definitely staged
that for the newspaper cameras.
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It's all quite macho. And this coach
load of searchers here,
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they're taking a break
from searching and they are...
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I think
they're enjoying a packed lunch.
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And these ones here were re-staging
the scene of the crime.
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It's 1920s Crimewatch.
But do you know what?
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I can't really blame the policemen
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and all of these
kind searching people.
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Under the circumstances, I can see
exactly why they felt that they
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were living inside the world
of a detective story.
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The police, press and public
went into a detection frenzy.
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There were dedicated front pages
day after day.
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Calls to action mustered
thousands of volunteers.
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Bloodhounds sniffed the countryside.
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Aeroplanes joined the hunt.
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Even Sherlock Holmes author
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle got involved.
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He hired a psychic to connect with
Agatha via one of her gloves.
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How could a woman whose face was
in every newspaper simply disappear?
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There were 11 days
full of speculation and scandal.
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Then a lead came in from somewhere
totally unexpected.
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In the elegant
spa town of Harrogate,
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230 miles north of where Agatha
had disappeared, a woman
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answering Agatha's description was
spotted at the Hydropathic Hotel.
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Two members of the hotel's dance
band tipped off the police.
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So, Archie took the train up to
Harrogate to see if the woman
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who'd checked in as Teresa Neele
was really his missing wife.
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When Archie arrived at the hotel,
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he and a policeman stationed
themselves by the lift.
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They were waiting for when the
mystery woman would come down
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and go through to the dining room.
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Time went by, other guests came
through, the suspense mounted.
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Then, finally, the lift doors opened
and...there she was.
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Yes, it was Agatha.
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She'd been found.
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But where was the dramatic reunion?
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Where were the tears
and recriminations?
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Agatha greeted Archie
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and they walked
quietly off to the hotel restaurant.
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To the 25 or so reporters
outside the hotel, though,
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the mystery thickened
because Agatha, sitting here,
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calmly having her dinner,
didn't look like they expected.
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She wasn't "distressed",
she didn't seem "broken",
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she didn't seem "guilty"
about all this trouble she'd caused.
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Answers were required.
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And Archie had answers.
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He announced to the journalists
that Agatha had lost her memory.
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The press wanted details.
They wanted explanations.
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Now, they were told Agatha didn't
remember the car accident.
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She didn't know how
she got to Harrogate.
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She definitely couldn't explain why
she'd checked into the hotel
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under her husband's mistress's
surname.
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She'd even forgotten who she was.
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To the journalists, though,
this sounded almost unbelievable,
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a totally lame excuse.
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What kind of self-respecting
detective novelist would have
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come up with a plot twist
as bad as that?!
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It felt like she'd made
fools of them all.
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They wanted motives,
so they invented them.
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It was a publicity stunt.
After all, while she was missing,
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Agatha's books had sold
out across Britain.
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Or perhaps it was a twisted hoax to
punish her unfaithful husband.
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Hardly anyone believed that Agatha
was telling the truth.
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But, of course,
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the journalists didn't know what had
happened in the months before.
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I think we should consider Agatha's
own testimony for what
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she experienced in 1926.
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Bad things had been happening
to her that year.
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Her mother had died, she was under
pressure from her work.
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She reports a whole
range of symptoms - forgetfulness,
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tearfulness, insomnia.
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In August,
so before she disappeared,
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a gossip columnist reported that
she'd had a breakdown.
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On top of all that,
just before Agatha disappeared,
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Archie had told her he was leaving
her for another woman.
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Not just any woman. Nancy Neele
was a friend of Agatha's.
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She was nine years younger,
outgoing and sporty.
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Like Archie, she was a keen golfer.
She'd even stayed at their house
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while visiting the local
golf course.
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No surprise, then, that Agatha's
mental health was suffering.
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But it's still a big leap from there
to forgetting who you are.
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I need to understand if Agatha
could really have had amnesia.
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I've come to
Harrogate's Royal Baths,
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where she took regular therapeutic
treatments during her stay.
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This is quite the place, isn't it?
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Somewhere I've always
wanted to come.
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I'm hoping Professor Edgar Jones can
suggest a modern medical diagnosis.
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Edgar, can I ask you, how would
you describe your profession?
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Technically, I'm a clinical
psychopathologist
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and psychotherapist, but I'm
interested particularly in people
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who've been through stressful
situations,
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such as soldiers in war,
people who've got PTSD.
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I can see some connections
to Agatha's trauma here.
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At the time, a lot of people
believed that she was faking
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her condition, cos she did things
like stay at a hotel,
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eat dinner,
socialise with other guests.
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How can you do all of that
if you've "lost your memory"?
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Well, it is consistent with
the diagnosis of fugue.
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Fugue, tell me
a bit more about fugue.
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That means a flight, doesn't it?
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Fugue is a very rare state,
but it has the purpose of extracting
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a person from a stressful or
intolerable situation.
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So you go from being in an area
where you're uncomfortable,
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you can't see a future,
into a new identity with a new role
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in a new place. I see
it as a kind of flight into health.
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A flight into health is
an interesting phrase,
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seeing as we're
sitting in a health facility,
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which would explain why she'd come
to Harrogate, right?
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It could well do.
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Coming to Harrogate would mean she's
no longer reminded of
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things around her, where she lives,
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her husband who's
threatening divorce,
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the death of her mother,
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and I do wonder, because
when she checks into the hotel,
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she calls herself Teresa Neele,
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and Neele is of course the name
of her husband's love interest.
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It's not that she's playing a part,
she's not being an actress.
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It's almost, in her mind, she's
recreated herself in a happy place,
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in the identity of the woman
who's threatening her very marriage.
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And, Edgar, have you ever met people
who've experienced this
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fugue state?
Fugue state is very rare,
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so in a period of ten years
of clinical work, on our ward,
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we had two women who
fell into this fugue state
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and one man also who came pretty
close to the diagnosis,
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so it is very unusual,
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because people are still
able to function appropriately
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on a day-to-day basis,
and it doesn't imply that this
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is acting or faking or some
publicity stunt.
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Gosh!
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We're talking
here about a really extreme,
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frightening medical condition.
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I'm persuaded by this argument
about the fugue state and, in turn,
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it makes me...
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It makes me so furious that people
then and people still today
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think that somehow she was making it
up, that she was faking it.
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Seems to me that despite her fame
and her success
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and all the good things in her life,
there's a deep injustice here.
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Not only was Agatha bereaved, she'd
lost her mother, not only had she
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lost her husband,
not only was she ill,
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but that she was shamed for all
of this
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in the newspapers...globally.
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Makes me angry.
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This ill, confused woman was now
fair game for pursuit by the press.
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The day after Agatha was found,
with crowds of photographers
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waiting outside the hotel, Archie
needed somehow to get her away.
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But he was too clever to bring
her out the front.
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The Christies came
sneaking out the back,
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disappointing all the photographers,
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and this is the sort of behaviour
that turns the press against you.
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The photographers soon caught up
with them again.
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Agatha and Archie took a train,
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but tried to shake them off again
by heading to Cheshire,
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home to Agatha's sister's family,
in the splendid Abney Hall.
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Still, the reporters had hunted them
down by the time they arrived.
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As the car came through these gates,
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Agatha's brother-in-law jumped out
and slammed the gates closed.
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Those ravenous reporters were all
trapped outside,
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but Agatha was now under siege.
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You might think this was a strange
place to bring her,
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but it was her big sister's home
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and she'd been coming here
since she was 12 years old.
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She couldn't go home to the house
she shared with Archie -
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too traumatic.
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So, here she was, holed up amongst
faded Victorian Gothic.
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Now, which room am I in?
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I think it's the dining room.
Look, there's that door.
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And it had this massive table,
like Count Dracula's Castle.
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Agatha had spent a lot of time
here as a child
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and you can see that the
melodramatic atmosphere of the place
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appealed to something
in her imagination.
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It sparked many stories.
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Often when you're reading
an Agatha Christie book, and there's
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some vast, gloomy mansion, you
think, "Yep, that's Abney Hall."
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There's even a railway that goes
round the park,
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just like in the story
4:50 From Paddington.
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Clearly,
it was inspired by this place.
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In the book, Rutherford Hall is
described as uncomfortable,
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cold and dark -
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the perfect setting for family
intrigue and a couple of murders.
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But when she was on the run,
when the press were after her,
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when she was ill,
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this place had the advantage
of being familiar to her, but it was
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also a place that, my goodness, has
a sort of morbid atmosphere to it.
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Not sure it was the best
place for her to be, quite honestly.
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Doctors arrived
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and announced that her amnesia
was unquestionably genuine.
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Archie told reporters that Agatha
now knew who he was, but had
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lost three years of her life and
still didn't recognise her daughter.
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But they didn't believe him.
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Questions were raised in Parliament
about the cost of the police search.
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There were calls for the Christies
to pay the money back.
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On 18th December, Archie left Abney.
Agatha stayed on.
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In early 1927, Agatha's sister
persuaded her to take
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a flat in London
in search of a cure.
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Next comes a deeply mysterious
part of Agatha's life.
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There are hints that she came for
psychiatric treatment
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here in Harley Street,
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where the best and the most
expensive doctors are to be found.
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But there aren't any
records of her treatment.
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I'd love to know more.
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I want to find out who might
have treated Agatha
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and what sort of treatment
she received.
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Hello. Will you be Claire?
I'm Claire.
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I've enlisted
the help of Dr Claire Hilton,
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historian in residence at the
Royal College of Psychiatrists.
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This is the journal of the Royal
Medico-Psychological Association,
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which includes a list of members
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and where they worked. Ah!
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Just seven psychiatrists had
Harley Street addresses at the time
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and Claire thinks she's found
the most likely candidate.
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And here we've got William Brown,
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at number 88 Harley Street. Yes.
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Was this Dr William Brown a public
figure? Was he famous?
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He gave public lectures and in 1925,
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the Guardian and the Telegraph
reported on some of his.
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"Loss Of Memory, How To Cure It,
Dr William Brown."
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It says here, "He knew that
a wave of the hand would immediately
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"bring memory back."
Sounds like our man.
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Sounds like it.
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What sort of treatment did this
William Brown give to people?
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He was very keen on hypnosis.
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It says here that,
"During the war, he had treated
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"over 600 cases of loss of memory in
this way with invariable success."
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The first mental casualties of World
War I appeared in 1914, exhibiting
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perplexing symptoms, like trembling,
paralysis, speech disorders,
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confusion and memory problems.
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Originally, it was thought
vibrations from shell explosions
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were to blame and the
phrase "shellshock" appeared.
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By the end of the war,
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80,000 such cases had passed through
British Army medical facilities.
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William Brown was one of the young
doctors brought in to treat them.
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He agreed with Freud that recovering
repressed memories was key to
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his patients' health and in wartime,
he needed a quick fix - hypnosis.
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Now, I'm curious to know what
we can learn from Agatha's novels
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about this mystery and,
in particular, there's this novel,
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Giant's Bread, it's not a detective
novel, but in it, somebody loses
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their memory and they get it back
again with the help of a doctor.
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"He's a tall, thin man with eyes
that seemed to see right into
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"the centre of you," so somebody
very charismatic and penetrating.
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And this doctor uses a technique
that sounds a bit like hypnosis.
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"The doctor touched his forehead
and his limbs, told him that he was
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"resting, was rested and he would
become strong and happy again..."
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And he begins to remember. Does
that sound like Dr Brown to you?
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Well, what stands out is William
Brown's comment that he would
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touch the forehead of his patients
before they passed into this
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hypnotic state. That's fascinating,
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because this novel that describes
someone being hypnotised to
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get their memories back, I've always
suspected that Agatha was
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talking about her own
experience here.
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I think you've brought some new
evidence to the table here,
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that she really did experience
illness in 1927
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and that she was treated for it,
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using up-to-date techniques
of psychiatry and hypnosis.
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Is it possible, Claire, that he
was "a tall, thin man with eyes
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"that seemed to see right into the
centre of you," as Agatha says here?
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Well, we have found
a picture of him. No!
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Don't tell me he was short and fat!
Don't tell me that!
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Well, that is William Brown...
He's tall. ..on the left. He's tall.
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He's thin. He's slim.
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What do you think of his eyes?
Has he got a penetrating gaze?
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He knows what you're thinking,
Claire!
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Probably. I think
Agatha put him into her novel.
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It really wouldn't surprise me.
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Giant's Bread wasn't published under
the name of Agatha Christie.
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She used a pseudonym,
Mary Westmacott,
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and the true identity of
Mary Westmacott was kept top secret.
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And when she was writing
in the privacy of her pseudonym,
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Mary Westmacott, I think that Agatha
shows us who she really was and,
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to me, that's a person who's clearly
had the insights of psychotherapy.
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And this is a whole level
of understanding that's been missed
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by all the people who don't believe
that in 1926, Agatha really was ill.
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She went on to write five more
Mary Westmacott books.
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They're almost like a form
of therapy themselves,
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a place to explore her true
feelings,
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which means these books are vital
for understanding the real Agatha.
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They didn't sell well,
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though, without the murders or
the Agatha Christie name.
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Now, these Mary Westmacott
novels have often been
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written off as romances, you know,
woman-type stuff,
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but I don't think that's fair.
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They're quite serious
studies of human nature.
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And I think that this new wisdom,
this new maturity,
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comes into her detective
fiction too.
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As time goes on, Poirot,
for example,
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changes the way that he works.
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He gets less
interested in physical clues
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and more interested in what we might
call psychological profiling.
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He says here he's not interested in
"cigarette ash or fingerprints",
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he says, "It is
the psychology I seek."
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He wants to read
the secrets of the heart.
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I believe that we wouldn't
have had Agatha's most famous
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detective novels without her
moment of crisis,
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and in particular,
the psychotherapy that followed.
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We've reached 1928.
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Agatha's therapy was over,
but she couldn't move on just yet.
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Archie wanted to marry his lover,
Nancy Neele,
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and Agatha,
who didn't even want a divorce,
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was forced to collude in a trick
to protect Nancy's reputation.
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Archie committed
a kind of fake adultery.
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He came here to the Grosvenor Hotel,
Victoria, and "committed adultery
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"with a woman",
except he didn't really.
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He paid a waiter to say that he'd
seen Archie in bed with this woman.
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All this was presented in court
and for Agatha,
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there were two bad things here.
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Firstly, this was all in public,
it was in the High Court.
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Secondly,
she had to perjure herself.
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She had to lie and say, yes,
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she believed that this had
really happened.
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Nancy's name was kept
out of the proceedings
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and you get a sense of
how Agatha felt about this
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because in another of her
Mary Westmacott books,
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the heroine tells us, if she took
another woman's husband, she says,
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"I'd do it honestly.
I'd not skulk in the shadow
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"and let someone else do
the dirty work."
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Agatha, of course, didn't have the
luxury of hiding in the shadows,
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and the divorce meant, inevitably,
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another airing in the newspapers
for the story of her disappearance.
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Even after Agatha was found,
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you don't hear her voice in the
press coverage.
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She'd clearly decided not to
give any interviews.
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And in lots of books you'll
read about Agatha Christie,
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it's said that she never spoke
again about her disappearance,
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that she kept silent for the rest
of her life. Now, that's not true.
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It's almost comically untrue
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because in 1928,
with the divorce under way,
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she decided to take back
control of her own story.
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She gave a really long,
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really detailed description about
exactly what had happened to her.
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In an exclusive interview with
the Daily Mail, Agatha directly
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confronted the rumours about her
disappearance.
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And I don't think it's a coincidence
that the article came out
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as she was trying to win
custody of her daughter Rosalind.
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Ooh! Are these all your newspapers?
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Absolutely. Superb. A whole
range of them here. Thank you.
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I want to discuss this article with
an expert on '20s journalism.
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Why would she have chosen
the Daily Mail for telling her
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side of the story?
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Well, that's the best-selling
newspaper of the 1920s.
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It was still very much
the market leader.
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And it would be read by more people
than any other that she could
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have gone to, so I think the
Daily Mail makes absolute sense.
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It's also very striking to me
that it's in the first person.
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She gets to say exactly what
she wants to say in her own words,
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purportedly. Absolutely.
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"In her own words"
is one of THE catchphrases of this
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period of journalism, the idea that
we're opening the curtain,
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we're sort of seeing
right into someone's soul.
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In the interview, Agatha is
frank about her feelings,
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her insomnia,
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the fact that she began to
experience suicidal thoughts.
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She left home that night
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with the intention of doing
something desperate.
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She says...
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Adrian, who's reading these papers
that have got Agatha Christie
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plastered all over the front page?
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Well, they were designed to appeal
to a broad middle-class audience,
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but we know that, really,
the heart of the readership
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at this point were middle-class
women. Is that the front page?
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That's the front page.
It's all about dresses. Absolutely.
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And underwear. The Daily Mail
knew that it could get
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huge amounts of money for this
advertising,
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so the advertisers were
pushing for the female readers
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and therefore, the editors were, "We
need to reach these female readers."
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Agatha's books were serialised in
these newspapers, targeted at women.
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The same female readers who'd also
lapped up the real-life
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story of her disappearance.
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Agatha needed to keep them onside.
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There are very powerful
ideas at this time of what
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motherhood should be, not least
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because there had been some
murmurings, I think,
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about how could someone disappear
like that and leave a daughter?
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And she would probably have been
conscious of the sorts of things
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that she would need to say,
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not just in the courtroom,
but to the court of public opinion.
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She would have been
conscious of that, I think.
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What's astonishing to me
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is that, despite the fact she gave
an interview to the Daily Mail
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saying exactly why she'd
disappeared,
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nobody was listening, because most
people today still, I think,
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would say, "Oh, yeah,
she disappeared
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"because she was a bad person
and she was framing
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00:33:32,243 --> 00:33:34,203
"her cheating husband for her
murder,"
464
00:33:34,203 --> 00:33:37,203
because that made a better media
story. Absolutely,
465
00:33:37,203 --> 00:33:42,123
and I think, to some extent, it is
the result of the intensity of the
466
00:33:42,123 --> 00:33:47,083
coverage in 1926, splashed across a
whole range of different newspapers,
467
00:33:47,083 --> 00:33:51,483
versus a one-off interview for one
newspaper, which although would
468
00:33:51,483 --> 00:33:52,803
have got a certain reach,
469
00:33:52,803 --> 00:33:55,043
it didn't probably have that same
lasting resonance,
470
00:33:55,043 --> 00:33:57,883
and so people would go
back to the events of 1926
471
00:33:57,883 --> 00:33:59,803
and then put their own
interpretation on it.
472
00:33:59,803 --> 00:34:03,683
It just shows, you mustn't believe
what you read in the papers.
473
00:34:03,683 --> 00:34:06,603
Absolutely not. You can't ever trust
the 1920s newspapers, in particular.
474
00:34:06,603 --> 00:34:07,643
Gosh!
475
00:34:09,643 --> 00:34:12,003
In the end, Agatha could not stop
476
00:34:12,003 --> 00:34:15,523
the speculation about her
disappearance.
477
00:34:15,523 --> 00:34:18,803
But she did win custody of Rosalind.
478
00:34:18,803 --> 00:34:22,043
And she was learning that she
couldn't just keep quiet.
479
00:34:22,043 --> 00:34:26,683
She had to get out there
and manage her image.
480
00:34:26,683 --> 00:34:29,843
This is beginning to make
sense to me.
481
00:34:29,843 --> 00:34:33,683
The very last thing she must have
wanted to do was to give
482
00:34:33,683 --> 00:34:35,403
interviews to the press.
483
00:34:35,403 --> 00:34:39,683
And yet, she was locked into this
relationship with it.
484
00:34:39,683 --> 00:34:41,523
She still had to sell books.
485
00:34:54,643 --> 00:34:57,163
Throughout the upheavals
of her divorce,
486
00:34:57,163 --> 00:35:01,043
Agatha had been wrestling with her
next Poirot mystery.
487
00:35:03,883 --> 00:35:07,363
And just a month after
the Daily Mail article appeared,
488
00:35:07,363 --> 00:35:09,603
a new novel hit the shelves.
489
00:35:15,403 --> 00:35:20,603
The Mystery Of The Blue Train
is about a murder on a luxury train,
490
00:35:20,603 --> 00:35:23,283
going to the South of France.
491
00:35:23,283 --> 00:35:29,323
And it's a book that marks a turning
point in Agatha's career, cos this
492
00:35:29,323 --> 00:35:34,563
is the book that she was working
on in 1926, when she disappeared.
493
00:35:34,563 --> 00:35:39,243
The story reflects
the turmoil in her private life.
494
00:35:39,243 --> 00:35:43,923
It's about divorce and faithless
spouses, but the book itself
495
00:35:43,923 --> 00:35:49,363
was part of the problem for her
because she just couldn't finish it.
496
00:35:49,363 --> 00:35:54,203
She later described it as easily
the worst book she'd ever written.
497
00:35:54,203 --> 00:35:56,883
When she'd come back after the
disappearance,
498
00:35:56,883 --> 00:35:59,483
she really needed to finish it
because of the money
499
00:35:59,483 --> 00:36:03,923
and she describes in this letter
how difficult that was.
500
00:36:03,923 --> 00:36:07,523
She says here, "I wanted to
write for the sake of the money,"
501
00:36:07,523 --> 00:36:09,323
to support her daughter,
502
00:36:09,323 --> 00:36:15,723
"but I felt I couldn't
and it is a nerve-wracking feeling."
503
00:36:15,723 --> 00:36:19,203
You can see her trying to finish the
book, squeezing out the words,
504
00:36:19,203 --> 00:36:21,283
as she tots up her daily totals
505
00:36:21,283 --> 00:36:23,603
and on this page
of her notebooks here.
506
00:36:23,603 --> 00:36:30,163
She manages to get to 53,000 words,
but her publishing contract
507
00:36:30,163 --> 00:36:33,443
says that the next novel must be
508
00:36:33,443 --> 00:36:38,203
"not less than 75,000 words".
509
00:36:38,203 --> 00:36:44,283
Let me read you one of the very
last paragraphs of the story,
510
00:36:44,283 --> 00:36:49,243
which throws an interesting
light on all of this, I think.
511
00:36:49,243 --> 00:36:53,483
"From far behind them,
there came a long, drawn-out scream
512
00:36:53,483 --> 00:36:55,763
"of an engine's whistle.
513
00:36:55,763 --> 00:37:01,883
" 'Trains are relentless things,
aren't they, Monsieur Poirot?
514
00:37:01,883 --> 00:37:06,483
" 'People are murdered and die,
but they go on just the same.' "
515
00:37:06,483 --> 00:37:09,363
So, this story works on two levels.
516
00:37:09,363 --> 00:37:14,443
It's a story about a train,
but it's also a story about the
517
00:37:14,443 --> 00:37:21,163
relentless, inexorable nature
of success and publishing contracts.
518
00:37:26,923 --> 00:37:30,683
Much later, Agatha said that it
was full of cliches, the people
519
00:37:30,683 --> 00:37:34,643
were unreal, the plot predictable,
and it had no joie de vivre.
520
00:37:36,283 --> 00:37:39,283
People who thought it one of her
best, she said,
521
00:37:39,283 --> 00:37:41,883
actually went down in her
estimation.
522
00:37:43,123 --> 00:37:46,043
But even though it wasn't exactly
a masterpiece,
523
00:37:46,043 --> 00:37:52,043
the Blue Train sold
because Agatha was now notorious.
524
00:37:52,043 --> 00:37:55,203
The Murder Of Roger Ackroyd,
a brilliant book,
525
00:37:55,203 --> 00:37:58,603
sold 4,000 copies in its first year.
526
00:37:58,603 --> 00:38:02,883
The Blue Train, described by Agatha
as "easily the worst book
527
00:38:02,883 --> 00:38:06,923
"I ever wrote", sold 7,000 copies.
528
00:38:22,083 --> 00:38:27,723
Later, in 1928, Agatha's divorce
finally became official.
529
00:38:29,123 --> 00:38:32,883
The next week,
Archie married Nancy Neele.
530
00:38:32,883 --> 00:38:36,683
It must have felt like yet another
public humiliation.
531
00:38:38,483 --> 00:38:43,723
Agatha was adrift. Her daughter
was off at boarding school,
532
00:38:43,723 --> 00:38:49,523
she had no ties, no husband,
and more notoriety than she wanted.
533
00:38:49,523 --> 00:38:53,643
But there was, at least,
the freedom to get away.
534
00:38:55,043 --> 00:38:59,243
In November 1928,
Agatha threw caution to the wind
535
00:38:59,243 --> 00:39:04,763
and booked herself a second-class
ticket on the famous Orient Express.
536
00:39:07,163 --> 00:39:11,083
She'd once travelled the world with
Archie by her side.
537
00:39:11,083 --> 00:39:14,923
Here was her chance to go solo.
538
00:39:16,603 --> 00:39:21,403
And this was her first stop -
Sirkeci Station, Istanbul.
539
00:39:24,243 --> 00:39:29,563
Agatha likes to tell the story
about how fate brought her here.
540
00:39:29,563 --> 00:39:35,243
She had planned to go to the
West Indies, but then, at a party,
541
00:39:35,243 --> 00:39:39,043
she ran into a couple
who'd just come back from Iraq.
542
00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:41,803
They told her how marvellous it was,
543
00:39:41,803 --> 00:39:45,603
they told her about these
incredible train journeys.
544
00:39:45,603 --> 00:39:50,723
The next day, she changed her ticket
and five days later, she was off.
545
00:39:50,723 --> 00:39:56,403
So, in the autumn of 1928,
Agatha arrived here in Istanbul,
546
00:39:56,403 --> 00:40:00,843
ready to begin the next stage
of her journey even further east.
547
00:40:12,283 --> 00:40:13,603
Thank you.
548
00:40:15,243 --> 00:40:19,923
Now, this business of the
last-minute change of tickets,
549
00:40:19,923 --> 00:40:24,883
it does sound like a plot device
from one of Agatha's own books,
550
00:40:24,883 --> 00:40:26,203
doesn't it?
551
00:40:26,203 --> 00:40:29,443
And when she came to write her own
life story,
552
00:40:29,443 --> 00:40:31,643
she saw it in those terms,
553
00:40:31,643 --> 00:40:36,723
as the beginning of a fresh chapter,
a new start in life.
554
00:40:44,283 --> 00:40:49,243
As Agatha put it, "I was going
by myself, I should find out now
555
00:40:49,243 --> 00:40:52,243
"what kind of person I was."
556
00:40:52,243 --> 00:40:55,643
It's pretty exciting for me
being here in the 21st century,
557
00:40:55,643 --> 00:40:57,563
and I've got a film crew with me.
558
00:40:57,563 --> 00:41:05,283
Imagine what it must have been like
for a woman alone here in the 1920s.
559
00:41:05,283 --> 00:41:08,323
It must have been almost shockingly
different
560
00:41:08,323 --> 00:41:10,763
from her normal life at home.
561
00:41:11,963 --> 00:41:17,323
Single female tourists were
a bit of a rarity at the time.
562
00:41:17,323 --> 00:41:21,563
Yet, here she was, at 38 years old,
heading off on her own.
563
00:41:23,043 --> 00:41:26,843
Last time that happened,
there'd been a national manhunt,
564
00:41:26,843 --> 00:41:29,443
and now
she was blissfully in control.
565
00:41:30,803 --> 00:41:34,043
What's more,
her journey was only just beginning.
566
00:41:36,083 --> 00:41:40,683
Here's a map from the 1920s
that shows Agatha's route.
567
00:41:40,683 --> 00:41:44,363
It's described
as an Authentic Imperial Map.
568
00:41:44,363 --> 00:41:47,683
She started here at Istanbul.
569
00:41:47,683 --> 00:41:52,563
British people then saw
the city as the gateway to the East.
570
00:41:52,563 --> 00:41:57,163
Then she crossed the Bosporus
by boat,
571
00:41:57,163 --> 00:42:01,763
then it was on to a train to get
across the rest of Turkey, through
572
00:42:01,763 --> 00:42:08,603
some thrilling mountain passes,
then through Syria, to Damascus,
573
00:42:08,603 --> 00:42:12,843
there it is, then the journey got
really exciting because to go across
574
00:42:12,843 --> 00:42:19,163
the desert into Iraq, she had to
travel in a bouncing desert minibus.
575
00:42:21,483 --> 00:42:26,643
The idea of being on your own
in the desert was a powerful one
576
00:42:26,643 --> 00:42:33,443
for Agatha. Years later,
she wrote Absent In The Spring.
577
00:42:33,443 --> 00:42:36,763
In it, a woman finds herself
stranded for days
578
00:42:36,763 --> 00:42:42,163
and is forced to confront her
self-deception. Agatha writes...
579
00:42:55,723 --> 00:43:01,163
I think that on this journey,
Agatha too was finally facing up to
580
00:43:01,163 --> 00:43:03,523
all those terrible things
she'd been through.
581
00:43:05,643 --> 00:43:07,123
When she reached Baghdad,
582
00:43:07,123 --> 00:43:09,843
she actually found it a bit
disappointing.
583
00:43:09,843 --> 00:43:12,123
It was a bit too British
and colonial.
584
00:43:12,123 --> 00:43:16,603
So she immediately set off again,
going in this direction,
585
00:43:16,603 --> 00:43:21,163
towards an even bigger adventure.
586
00:43:21,163 --> 00:43:26,163
Over 200 miles south of Baghdad,
she reached Tell el-Muqayyar.
587
00:43:27,363 --> 00:43:30,363
This was the site
of an archaeological dig,
588
00:43:30,363 --> 00:43:33,363
begun in 1922, which had uncovered
589
00:43:33,363 --> 00:43:38,403
treasures from the 5,000-year-old
Sumerian civilisation
590
00:43:38,403 --> 00:43:41,363
at the Royal Cemetery at Ur.
591
00:43:44,363 --> 00:43:46,843
The visit to the dig would
end up being
592
00:43:46,843 --> 00:43:51,603
just as transformative for Agatha
as the journey itself.
593
00:43:54,323 --> 00:43:59,523
Many objects excavated at Ur are
housed here at the British Museum.
594
00:44:01,923 --> 00:44:05,323
And I'm meeting a leading expert.
595
00:44:05,323 --> 00:44:09,603
Zainab, in the 1920s,
Tutankhamun has just been discovered
596
00:44:09,603 --> 00:44:12,763
and everybody's mad for Egyptian
things... Yes. ..aren't they?
597
00:44:12,763 --> 00:44:18,163
Egyptomania. Egyptomania!
How does Iraq fit into that?
598
00:44:18,163 --> 00:44:23,643
Well, soon afterwards,
Iraq also got a different
599
00:44:23,643 --> 00:44:27,283
kind of a mania about these...
Especially these finds from Ur.
600
00:44:27,283 --> 00:44:32,483
So, it began to gain a similar
kind of glamour.
601
00:44:32,483 --> 00:44:35,283
So, if you've seen the
Golden Treasures from Egypt,
602
00:44:35,283 --> 00:44:39,083
you're also going to like the
Golden Treasures from Iraq. Exactly.
603
00:44:39,083 --> 00:44:41,843
Zainab, what's this amazing thing
we're looking at here?
604
00:44:41,843 --> 00:44:44,323
This is the so-called
Ram in a Thicket.
605
00:44:44,323 --> 00:44:49,763
It was one of the objects that was
found in the Royal Cemetery of Ur,
606
00:44:49,763 --> 00:44:55,683
which was this spectacular
series of 16 graves that date to the
607
00:44:55,683 --> 00:44:59,763
middle of the third millennium BC
in the south of Iraq.
608
00:44:59,763 --> 00:45:03,723
How intrepid of her was this?
609
00:45:03,723 --> 00:45:06,003
Well, I think it was intrepid,
610
00:45:06,003 --> 00:45:10,243
because even now a lot of people
are kind of reluctant to go to Iraq,
611
00:45:10,243 --> 00:45:12,243
after all of the wars and so on.
612
00:45:12,243 --> 00:45:14,643
And we have to imagine
that it was something similar.
613
00:45:14,643 --> 00:45:17,363
They had just come
out of the First World War.
614
00:45:17,363 --> 00:45:19,883
Iraq was under the British mandate,
615
00:45:19,883 --> 00:45:23,043
which is a polite way of saying
it was a colony.
616
00:45:23,043 --> 00:45:27,723
So it was this exotic place,
but it was in the East,
617
00:45:27,723 --> 00:45:29,003
in someplace unknown.
618
00:45:29,003 --> 00:45:34,643
So I do think it was brave of her
to decide to go.
619
00:45:34,643 --> 00:45:38,883
When Agatha Christie arrived at Ur
in 1928,
620
00:45:38,883 --> 00:45:42,163
she got invited to stay on the site.
621
00:45:42,163 --> 00:45:44,843
That was a pretty special thing,
wasn't it?
622
00:45:44,843 --> 00:45:46,043
That's very special.
623
00:45:46,043 --> 00:45:49,603
Yes, I doubt that they would
have invited every tourist.
624
00:45:49,603 --> 00:45:53,963
No, because she brought publicity
to the archaeologists. Exactly.
625
00:45:53,963 --> 00:45:58,443
And what archaeologists really want
is to have that kind of publicity
626
00:45:58,443 --> 00:46:00,483
in order to have more funds.
627
00:46:01,683 --> 00:46:05,123
Agatha's fame may have attracted
the archaeologists,
628
00:46:05,123 --> 00:46:08,283
but she certainly got
something in return.
629
00:46:08,283 --> 00:46:12,683
Archaeology and Iraq would become
a source of inspiration
630
00:46:12,683 --> 00:46:14,003
for future novels.
631
00:46:15,003 --> 00:46:17,483
And she also gained in other ways.
632
00:46:19,043 --> 00:46:24,323
It seems to me that Agatha's first
trip to Iraq made a big difference
633
00:46:24,323 --> 00:46:26,603
to her self-confidence.
634
00:46:26,603 --> 00:46:32,043
She knew now that she could live
by herself, travel by herself.
635
00:46:32,043 --> 00:46:35,483
I think it gave her
a new sense of independence.
636
00:46:42,443 --> 00:46:46,043
The next step was to apply
this new confidence
637
00:46:46,043 --> 00:46:47,523
to her life at home.
638
00:46:47,523 --> 00:46:50,003
And, by chance,
639
00:46:50,003 --> 00:46:54,883
1928 was also the year
she had her first encounters
640
00:46:54,883 --> 00:46:56,603
with the movies.
641
00:47:06,283 --> 00:47:10,643
I'm meeting Mark Aldridge,
an expert on Agatha's films,
642
00:47:10,643 --> 00:47:13,243
to find out
how she showed her mettle.
643
00:47:13,243 --> 00:47:17,683
Mark, what was the...what was
the very first Agatha Christie film?
644
00:47:17,683 --> 00:47:19,483
It's actually not
one of the big stories.
645
00:47:19,483 --> 00:47:22,123
So you might think it would be
Poirot or that it would be one
646
00:47:22,123 --> 00:47:23,843
of her really famous mysteries.
647
00:47:23,843 --> 00:47:27,283
But actually, it was a short story,
a Mr Quinn short story,
648
00:47:27,283 --> 00:47:29,043
one of her interesting characters.
649
00:47:29,043 --> 00:47:31,723
It starts quite like
what Agatha Christie wrote,
650
00:47:31,723 --> 00:47:34,403
but we also get things
like poisonous snakes
651
00:47:34,403 --> 00:47:35,803
and all sorts of things
652
00:47:35,803 --> 00:47:38,803
that are absolutely not
in her original story.
653
00:47:38,803 --> 00:47:41,003
Oh, look! There's the snake.
654
00:47:41,003 --> 00:47:43,603
Adaptations of films
in this era
655
00:47:43,603 --> 00:47:47,083
very often were playing fast
and loose with the original story.
656
00:47:47,083 --> 00:47:48,483
This is a silent film,
657
00:47:48,483 --> 00:47:51,163
so you're having to make changes
anyway.
658
00:47:51,163 --> 00:47:54,963
So we shouldn't think that
Agatha Christie was particularly
659
00:47:54,963 --> 00:47:56,443
poorly treated here.
660
00:47:56,443 --> 00:47:58,963
Reviews weren't terribly kind,
and one said it was
661
00:47:58,963 --> 00:48:01,723
one of the least convincing things
they'd ever seen on film.
662
00:48:01,723 --> 00:48:03,323
Oh, dear. Yes.
663
00:48:03,323 --> 00:48:06,163
So, can we see this first film?
The really bad one?
664
00:48:06,163 --> 00:48:08,803
Unfortunately,
no prints are known to survive.
665
00:48:08,803 --> 00:48:10,763
But who knows
if that was deliberate or not?
666
00:48:10,763 --> 00:48:14,203
So, 1928, this really terrible film
kicks off her career.
667
00:48:14,203 --> 00:48:18,603
What happens next? Does it
get any better? Well, a little.
668
00:48:18,603 --> 00:48:20,723
What we then have is Austin Trevor,
669
00:48:20,723 --> 00:48:24,123
a fairly young actor
playing Hercule Poirot on screen.
670
00:48:24,123 --> 00:48:26,403
Can we see this guy, then,
Austin Trevor?
671
00:48:26,403 --> 00:48:31,243
We can see him in 1934
in Lord Edgware Dies. Ooh!
672
00:48:31,243 --> 00:48:34,243
Let's assess his performance,
shall we? See what you think.
673
00:48:34,243 --> 00:48:37,563
Mr Poirot, I believe.
At your service, my dear.
674
00:48:37,563 --> 00:48:39,243
Oh, you Frenchmen are so cute.
675
00:48:39,243 --> 00:48:41,323
I just love your Parisian manners.
676
00:48:41,323 --> 00:48:43,243
He's French!
LAUGHING: He's French.
677
00:48:43,243 --> 00:48:45,803
He's not supposed to be French.
I know. I know.
678
00:48:45,803 --> 00:48:49,683
He's famously Belgian.
He's famously Belgian...
679
00:48:49,683 --> 00:48:51,123
..unless you're a film producer,
680
00:48:51,123 --> 00:48:53,243
in which case, he'll be
whatever you want him to be.
681
00:48:53,243 --> 00:48:56,403
Mr Poirot, I want to consult you.
But certainly, madame.
682
00:48:56,403 --> 00:48:57,763
Shall I call on you tomorrow?
683
00:48:57,763 --> 00:48:59,843
Oh, tomorrow means nothing
in my life -
684
00:48:59,843 --> 00:49:01,923
only the present counts.
Why not now?
685
00:49:01,923 --> 00:49:03,683
By all means, if you wish.
686
00:49:03,683 --> 00:49:05,443
We should be quite undisturbed
in there.
687
00:49:05,443 --> 00:49:07,603
What's going on with the moustache?
688
00:49:07,603 --> 00:49:09,043
Exactly. Where is his moustache?
689
00:49:09,043 --> 00:49:10,923
He's not Poirot! No.
690
00:49:10,923 --> 00:49:12,523
Of course, if we were in Chicago,
691
00:49:12,523 --> 00:49:14,443
I could get him bumped off
quite easily.
692
00:49:14,443 --> 00:49:17,083
But you don't seem to run to
gunmen over here. No, madame.
693
00:49:17,083 --> 00:49:19,643
Here, we consider human beings
have a right to live.
694
00:49:19,643 --> 00:49:22,683
Even husbands. Oh, I see.
695
00:49:22,683 --> 00:49:26,763
So how does she react to people
taking Poirot and making him sexy
696
00:49:26,763 --> 00:49:28,483
and French, messing with him?
697
00:49:28,483 --> 00:49:32,723
Well, we've got a pretty good idea,
because later in the 1930s, MGM,
698
00:49:32,723 --> 00:49:35,323
the big Hollywood studio,
they showed some interest.
699
00:49:35,323 --> 00:49:39,963
This is a letter from May 1936
from her American agent,
700
00:49:39,963 --> 00:49:42,243
written to her British agent, to say
701
00:49:42,243 --> 00:49:45,443
that they'd better drop
negotiations. Oh! What went wrong?
702
00:49:45,443 --> 00:49:49,283
Well, the New York office thinks
this is because the author,
703
00:49:49,283 --> 00:49:50,763
our beloved Agatha Christie,
704
00:49:50,763 --> 00:49:52,603
wanted a clause put in the contract
705
00:49:52,603 --> 00:49:56,563
saying that Poirot should not
be involved in any love story.
706
00:49:56,563 --> 00:49:58,403
So she said, you can have Poirot,
707
00:49:58,403 --> 00:50:01,283
but you can't make him
into a romantic hero.
708
00:50:01,283 --> 00:50:05,203
And that was enough for a big studio
like MGM to say, "No, we'll pass."
709
00:50:05,203 --> 00:50:11,483
Gosh. So they wanted him to be
this kind of guy, a romantic lead.
710
00:50:11,483 --> 00:50:12,883
Yes, they did.
711
00:50:12,883 --> 00:50:15,643
I love the sense that
she's taking up control.
712
00:50:15,643 --> 00:50:18,163
She's becoming the queen of crime.
I think so.
713
00:50:18,163 --> 00:50:21,323
And I think she started
to have confidence to speak back
714
00:50:21,323 --> 00:50:23,523
to people who tried
to correct her or said
715
00:50:23,523 --> 00:50:25,483
that she should be doing
certain things.
716
00:50:25,483 --> 00:50:27,723
And I think that
the earlier Agatha Christie
717
00:50:27,723 --> 00:50:29,043
wouldn't have done that.
718
00:50:29,043 --> 00:50:31,403
She's a changed woman. Hmm.
719
00:50:33,403 --> 00:50:37,243
It's fascinating to see Agatha
fighting to keep Poirot
720
00:50:37,243 --> 00:50:38,563
under her control.
721
00:50:39,843 --> 00:50:42,243
Made wiser by recent troubles,
722
00:50:42,243 --> 00:50:45,243
emboldened by
her independent travel,
723
00:50:45,243 --> 00:50:47,763
she was beginning to find
the confidence
724
00:50:47,763 --> 00:50:50,563
to stand up for herself
and her writing.
725
00:50:54,803 --> 00:51:01,283
In the late 1920s, detective fiction
was flourishing, thanks to novelists
726
00:51:01,283 --> 00:51:05,043
like Dorothy L Sayers,
GK Chesterton
727
00:51:05,043 --> 00:51:07,203
and, of course, Agatha herself.
728
00:51:08,243 --> 00:51:12,443
And some of these writers banded
together into a dining society
729
00:51:12,443 --> 00:51:16,123
called the Detection Club.
730
00:51:16,123 --> 00:51:21,563
If you joined the Detection Club,
you had to swear the club oath.
731
00:51:21,563 --> 00:51:23,643
It was very tongue in cheek.
732
00:51:23,643 --> 00:51:27,563
You had to promise that, in any
future novels you might write,
733
00:51:27,563 --> 00:51:31,403
you would avoid the things
considered to be cheating.
734
00:51:31,403 --> 00:51:36,243
These included trap doors and ghosts
735
00:51:36,243 --> 00:51:40,523
and super criminals and death rays
736
00:51:40,523 --> 00:51:46,243
and - this is interesting -
feminine intuition.
737
00:51:46,243 --> 00:51:49,283
I wonder what's wrong
with feminine intuition
738
00:51:49,283 --> 00:51:53,563
and why it's cheatier
than masculine intuition.
739
00:51:53,563 --> 00:51:56,803
Anyway, Agatha had always enjoyed
breaking the rules,
740
00:51:56,803 --> 00:51:59,563
and this was a rule
that she would break
741
00:51:59,563 --> 00:52:02,363
in creating her new detective.
742
00:52:04,243 --> 00:52:08,923
Miss Marple first appeared
as a character in a short story
743
00:52:08,923 --> 00:52:12,123
of 1927, The Tuesday Night Club,
744
00:52:12,123 --> 00:52:14,563
before emerging as a detective
745
00:52:14,563 --> 00:52:19,843
in her own right in 1930's
The Murder At The Vicarage.
746
00:52:22,363 --> 00:52:24,643
Ha! Now, you might think
747
00:52:24,643 --> 00:52:28,043
that Miss Marple
is a sort of cuddly,
748
00:52:28,043 --> 00:52:31,003
tea-drinking old lady.
You'd be wrong.
749
00:52:31,003 --> 00:52:36,443
She's actually an independent
and quite subversive woman,
750
00:52:36,443 --> 00:52:40,363
and she works through feminine
intuition.
751
00:52:40,363 --> 00:52:42,243
This is how she defines it.
752
00:52:42,243 --> 00:52:45,283
She says, "Intuition
is like reading a word
753
00:52:45,283 --> 00:52:48,043
"without having to spell it out.
754
00:52:48,043 --> 00:52:51,723
"A child can't do that because
a child has little experience,
755
00:52:51,723 --> 00:52:54,203
"but a grown-up person
knows the word
756
00:52:54,203 --> 00:52:57,643
"because they've seen it
often before."
757
00:52:57,643 --> 00:53:01,563
She's really talking
about life experience, isn't she?
758
00:53:02,563 --> 00:53:03,843
As she says here,
759
00:53:03,843 --> 00:53:08,683
"My hobby is - and always has been -
human nature."
760
00:53:08,683 --> 00:53:13,443
Now, I think it was
Agatha's own life experience,
761
00:53:13,443 --> 00:53:18,283
this sense that she'd been through
trouble and come out stronger,
762
00:53:18,283 --> 00:53:21,283
that she was entering into her power
763
00:53:21,283 --> 00:53:26,603
that allowed her to create
the rule-breaking Miss Marple.
764
00:53:28,363 --> 00:53:33,003
Agatha found a way of combining
her new confidence and independence
765
00:53:33,003 --> 00:53:36,123
with the psychological insights
from her illness
766
00:53:36,123 --> 00:53:39,363
to create the perfect detective.
767
00:53:40,803 --> 00:53:44,363
Almost a century
after we first met Miss Marple,
768
00:53:44,363 --> 00:53:49,043
some of our great novelists
are still fascinated by her.
769
00:53:49,043 --> 00:53:52,123
I've met up for a glass of cherry
brandy
770
00:53:52,123 --> 00:53:54,523
with three best-selling writers
771
00:53:54,523 --> 00:53:58,283
who've just finished their own
Miss Marple stories.
772
00:53:58,283 --> 00:54:02,243
Now, Kate, I've heard you saying
that Miss Marple is your hero.
773
00:54:02,243 --> 00:54:03,563
Is that fair to say?
774
00:54:03,563 --> 00:54:05,003
Yes, she absolutely is.
775
00:54:05,003 --> 00:54:07,963
I think she is one of the great
unsung heroes of literature
776
00:54:07,963 --> 00:54:10,203
and one of the great women
of literature,
777
00:54:10,203 --> 00:54:12,043
not just crime, but everything,
778
00:54:12,043 --> 00:54:14,523
because she is utterly herself.
779
00:54:14,523 --> 00:54:18,603
She's uncompromising,
but she's gentle and clever.
780
00:54:18,603 --> 00:54:23,283
How many other women are the hero
of their story at the age of 65,
781
00:54:23,283 --> 00:54:25,803
but without it being
because they're somebody's mother?
782
00:54:25,803 --> 00:54:29,803
She's someone that other people
take for granted a little bit.
783
00:54:29,803 --> 00:54:31,963
She's a little bit invisible,
but she turns that
784
00:54:31,963 --> 00:54:33,603
into her secret weapon.
785
00:54:33,603 --> 00:54:37,163
You know, she's able to overhear
conversations because people
786
00:54:37,163 --> 00:54:40,163
don't think anything about talking
in front of her because she's just
787
00:54:40,163 --> 00:54:42,043
this fluffy little old lady.
788
00:54:42,043 --> 00:54:44,443
So, of course,
it doesn't matter what they say.
789
00:54:44,443 --> 00:54:46,483
You know, part of this
is also cultural, right?
790
00:54:46,483 --> 00:54:49,403
Because in an Asian context,
you know,
791
00:54:49,403 --> 00:54:52,363
we revere the older generation
792
00:54:52,363 --> 00:54:54,563
and we think they have
a great deal of wisdom.
793
00:54:54,563 --> 00:54:58,083
And when I first read Miss Marple
stories, I was quite surprised
794
00:54:58,083 --> 00:54:59,523
by saying...by seeing,
795
00:54:59,523 --> 00:55:02,443
"Oh, she's being underestimated."
796
00:55:02,443 --> 00:55:04,763
Kate, can you tell me
what the brief was when you wrote
797
00:55:04,763 --> 00:55:06,203
these new Miss Marple stories?
798
00:55:06,203 --> 00:55:08,963
Well, it was... The brief was
quite tight, in a way, wasn't it?
799
00:55:08,963 --> 00:55:11,723
So I think one of the key things
is that
800
00:55:11,723 --> 00:55:13,763
there could be no love interest.
801
00:55:13,763 --> 00:55:19,203
We couldn't create a back story
of a husband that died in the war
802
00:55:19,203 --> 00:55:21,523
or a broken heart. In those days,
803
00:55:21,523 --> 00:55:23,603
even though there was a surplus
of women
804
00:55:23,603 --> 00:55:25,163
because of the First World War
805
00:55:25,163 --> 00:55:28,243
and there weren't enough men to go
round and all of these things,
806
00:55:28,243 --> 00:55:30,203
there was also a thing
that single women
807
00:55:30,203 --> 00:55:33,203
and women who didn't marry
were to be pitied.
808
00:55:33,203 --> 00:55:35,843
And that is an incredibly
important part
809
00:55:35,843 --> 00:55:37,963
of why Miss Marple is dismissed.
810
00:55:37,963 --> 00:55:41,603
I think the other really interesting
thing about both of Christie's
811
00:55:41,603 --> 00:55:45,163
detectives, actually, is that
they both arise out of sort of
812
00:55:45,163 --> 00:55:48,323
slightly destabilising influences
after the war,
813
00:55:48,323 --> 00:55:50,043
in that Poirot is a refugee,
814
00:55:50,043 --> 00:55:53,483
and that was something that people
had a lot of anxiety about.
815
00:55:53,483 --> 00:55:57,083
Miss Marple is one of this
generation of superfluous women.
816
00:55:57,083 --> 00:56:01,883
And what Christie does brilliantly
is show that these people are not
817
00:56:01,883 --> 00:56:06,003
just important and integral
to society, but, you know,
818
00:56:06,003 --> 00:56:09,683
they can be absolutely key
in ensuring that society can run
819
00:56:09,683 --> 00:56:11,563
in a successful way.
820
00:56:11,563 --> 00:56:14,123
Kate, when you were designing
your crime that Miss Marple
821
00:56:14,123 --> 00:56:16,443
was going to solve,
what did you bear in mind?
822
00:56:16,443 --> 00:56:18,763
I think the most important thing
is resolution.
823
00:56:18,763 --> 00:56:22,203
The idea that you set up
something very contained.
824
00:56:22,203 --> 00:56:25,643
You give the reader every single bit
of information they need.
825
00:56:25,643 --> 00:56:28,483
But there is...it comes
with a promise that
826
00:56:28,483 --> 00:56:31,043
there's going to be
no things left hanging.
827
00:56:31,043 --> 00:56:34,523
But the other thing
about Marple mysteries
828
00:56:34,523 --> 00:56:37,203
is that there's often
some little piece
829
00:56:37,203 --> 00:56:40,403
of disregarded knowledge
which is considered
830
00:56:40,403 --> 00:56:43,403
as being too trivial
and too unimportant
831
00:56:43,403 --> 00:56:46,603
for all the grand,
you know, police detectives.
832
00:56:46,603 --> 00:56:49,403
But for Miss Marple,
nothing is too trivial.
833
00:56:49,403 --> 00:56:51,083
And that's her brilliance.
834
00:56:51,083 --> 00:56:54,003
You know, there are always
these very clever clues.
835
00:56:54,003 --> 00:56:57,403
And when you try to replicate
that experience, you realise
836
00:56:57,403 --> 00:57:00,483
how very difficult
that actually is,
837
00:57:00,483 --> 00:57:04,443
to toss in just enough information
that you're playing fair,
838
00:57:04,443 --> 00:57:08,323
but to do it without really
just giving it all away.
839
00:57:08,323 --> 00:57:13,283
And it made me respect Christie
and Miss Marple so very much,
840
00:57:13,283 --> 00:57:17,923
because you realise this is so much
more difficult than you would think
841
00:57:17,923 --> 00:57:21,443
to set the path and yet
not make it very obvious.
842
00:57:25,803 --> 00:57:30,443
Miss Marple embodied the new Agatha
of the late 1920s,
843
00:57:30,443 --> 00:57:33,523
determined not to be
at anyone's mercy,
844
00:57:33,523 --> 00:57:36,483
completely in control
of her craft.
845
00:57:36,483 --> 00:57:41,603
Agatha had gone
from desperate fugitive
846
00:57:41,603 --> 00:57:44,363
to this confident,
847
00:57:44,363 --> 00:57:49,043
powerful, independent woman
in a really horrible way.
848
00:57:49,043 --> 00:57:54,523
I think that the traumatic 1920s
had made her stronger.
849
00:57:54,523 --> 00:57:57,923
They'd certainly made her
into a household name.
850
00:57:57,923 --> 00:58:03,203
And I also think the trouble
she'd had made her work better.
851
00:58:03,203 --> 00:58:06,083
It made it richer and darker
852
00:58:06,083 --> 00:58:09,483
and more psychologically
interesting.
853
00:58:09,483 --> 00:58:13,443
She was ready for a fresh chapter.
854
00:58:15,483 --> 00:58:19,323
Next time, archaeology
gets under Agatha's skin.
855
00:58:19,323 --> 00:58:22,763
Absolutely everything is celebrated
by Christie.
856
00:58:22,763 --> 00:58:25,683
Evil comes to a remote island.
857
00:58:25,683 --> 00:58:27,883
Be very afraid.
858
00:58:27,883 --> 00:58:31,003
And the dark origins
of a famous play.
859
00:58:31,003 --> 00:58:32,883
Have a look at this.
She's written on it!
860
00:58:32,883 --> 00:58:34,203
This is brilliant.
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