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There it is!
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It's been called the Roswell
of Northern New Mexico.
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A small town said to be harboring
one of the darkest...
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...most disturbing secrets
in UFO history.
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An alien underground facility...
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...bizarre genetic experiments...
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...egg-shaped UFOs.
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Does this space really exist?
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There's a hole on the other side...
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...of that Archuleta mountain.
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Has our Government known all
along?
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Did they help build it?
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Dulce is an underground base.
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Ben Hansen is on a mission
to find out.
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You see at the top of the ridge...
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...it's like spilling out like heat.
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I'm Ben Hansen,
former Federal Agent.
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My grandfather worked at a
highly classified Air Force base...
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...and convinced me we are
not alone in the universe.
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Then I had my own encounter
that changed my life forever.
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Welcome to UFO country.
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Now I've gained access to
a top secret archive...
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...from Project Blue Book...
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This planet has been under
surveillance for centuries...
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...containing reports of over
10,000 UFO sightings...
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...investigated by
the US Government.
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We could very well be standing
on the exact place...
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...where a UFO crashed.
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My mission is to uncover the
truth.
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I'm in a remote area of
Northern New Mexico.
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I'm following up on a wave
of UFO sightings.
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When it comes to UFOs,
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New Mexico is best known for
one incident in particular,
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Roswell 1947.
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But that infamous case is
just the beginning...
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...when it comes to UFO activity
in this region.
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Since then there's
been abductions...
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...cattle mutilations...
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...even stories of human
experimentation.
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I've heard rumors that...
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...the Government has had a
hand in these incidents.
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Before I came out here I spoke
with Laura Eisenhower...
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...the great-granddaughter of
President Dwight D Eisenhower...
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...and what she told me about
alien activity on our planet...
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...was mind blowing.
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-Hey Laura.
-Hey, Ben.
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I'm on my way to Dulce,
New Mexico...
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...to follow up on a recent
UFO sighting...
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...and I was told that the locals...
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...a lot of them believe
in this idea that...
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...there's an underground
alien base...
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...in co-operation with humans...
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...the Military, there.
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Do you think there's any truth to...
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...the idea of an underground
base?
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Uh Dulce is an underground
base.
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There's a lot of sightings that
people have experienced...
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...and they really do
back up the claims.
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Do you feel that these underground
bases might be related to...
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...these treaties that your
great-grandfather...
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...allegedly took place in
with extraterrestrials?
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Yes.
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Laura believes her
great-grandfather,
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President Eisenhower...
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...entered into a treaty with an
alien race know as The Grays.
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One of the theories is that we
would exchange technology.
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They would give us their
information on...
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...how to advance our technology
in trade...
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...for allowing them to
do experimentation.
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Yes.
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We talked about the
extraterrestrials coming from Space
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...and having a particular interest
in maybe a town...
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...maybe a military base and
that could be true...
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...but could it also be true there's
an increase in activity...
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...because they're already here...
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...and that they're
underground and...
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...they're actually coming out?
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Yes, they've been here
a really long time.
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What are their intentions...
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...you know is...
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...is something to ponder and
there's a lot to uncover.
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I'm actually convinced
it exists and I,
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I'm--I'll be interested to hear...
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...what you have to share
when you get back.
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The people of Dulce...
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...and the surrounding Jicarilla
Apache nation reservation...
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...have been witnessing strange
UFOs for decades.
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But recently...
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...one man claims to have
captured photographic proof.
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Ben is on his way to meet him
now.
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Could this be evidence of
underground alien bases?
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I discovered a photo which an
amateur photographer took...
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...a Dory Vigil.
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Dory was taking pictures of a...
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...a flat top mountain named
the Archuleta Mesa.
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And I wanna know if the
photo might have...
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...anything to do with these
reports of a base.
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-Hey Dory.
-Hey, how are you doing? -Good.
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Ben, nice to meet you.
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Dory, along time Dulce resident...
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...grew up hearing all sorts of
whispers about Archuleta Mesa...
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...but in 2015 all those rumors
would become shockingly real.
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So what were you doing that
day?
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Late one afternoon,
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Dory was helping a
friend trim trees.
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On his way home he pulled
over to take some photos.
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I had a brand new camera.
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I was trying to take pictures.
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I took a picture of the
football field...
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...I took a picture of the church.
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All of a sudden...
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...there it was.
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This little black thing in the sky.
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-So do you happen to have that
photo with you? -Yeah.
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I can see. Okay,
there's that little dip.
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I can see now, it's so--...
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...with this perspective though...
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...that actually looks pretty
close to you.
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Dory wasn't the only one...
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...who saw the strange flying
object that evening.
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Other witnesses recalled
an even stranger detail.
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There's other people around
town that says...
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...they seen the same UFO
coming from the mesa.
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From the Archuleta Mesa.
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There is about maybe five accounts
saying that it opened up.
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Opened up?!
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And a light came out or whatever
or something and then this...
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...there's stuff that went
in and went out...
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...and then it closed
up and everything.
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Have you had people like coming
to you and saying...
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...that you hoaxed it and--?
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There's people in our town trying
to say that but I told 'em...
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...no it's not, it's not a bird.
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It's not--it's just a
real thing right here.
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I mean if this were a
bird or something...
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...it would have to be the
very perfect moment...
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...where it's wings
were folded up...
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...right because it doesn't--
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-Not to me, it doesn't look like
a bird. -If you see a light,
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I mean a, a object going by you
would have a streak on it.
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This one didn't really
have a streak.
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But other than that though
it was there...
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...you know and it was plain as
day.
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-Yeah, okay.
-it's real.
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And while, while you were there
though there was no sounds...
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...there was no anything...
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...if I would've known I would've
went straight for it...
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...and look around you know...
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...around and investigate
it a little bit...
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...with your own you
know eyes you know.
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So do you, do you think
then that it's...
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...it's possibly not
from this world?
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It's not military.
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It's not from here for sure.
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It's hard to say, you know.
It's hard to say.
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According to all the stories
from the history...
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...from grandma to cousin...
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...they told me that when
they was small...
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...they used to see the spacecraft
and everything.
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If the Eisenhower treaty was
signed seventy years ago...
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...it would explain
why these rumors...
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...have been around for so long.
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So we're talking at least maybe
a hundred years or more.
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Yes.
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Ben's eager to investigate the
Archuleta Mesa for himself...
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...but access will be a challenge.
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So if I wanna go visit any part
of the Mesa up in tis area...
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...what would I need to do?
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Ben heads to the Jicarilla Apache
Nation to plead his case.
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If he can't get permission
to access the land...
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...his investigation is over
before it's really started.
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I'm on my way to meet with
some of the Elders of...
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...the Jicarilla Apache Nation...
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...to get their permission to move
freely about the reservation...
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...to talk to some of
the UFO witnesses...
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...hear their experiences.
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It's a matter of respect and I need
that permission from them.
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The tribe has turned
down requests...
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...from dozens of UFO
investigators.
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You'll have to turn
the camera off now.
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After several hours Ben
re-emerges with good news.
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He has secured unprecedented
access...
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...provided he works with a local...
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...resident and former detective,
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Avery Tafoya.
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Thank you for taking your time
to go with me because...
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...as an outsider I
know that this...
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...is kind of a sensitive issue.
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You're welcome.
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I have always wanted to come to
this part of New Mexico...
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...because this, this gentleman
Dory was telling me...
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...people are watching things
silently going in and out...
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...is that true?
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Yes.
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People in the community have
been seeing flying saucers,
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UFOs.
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Where do they think that
these UFOs come from?
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Well it's rumored that
they're probably...
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...coming out of the base.
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So you've heard that too?
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Yeah.
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The secret alien underground
base was...
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...allegedly built in the fifties...
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...after Eisenhower drew up a
treaty with the alien entities.
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But UFO lore has it that
in the 1970s...
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...a Government security
guard from...
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...Archuleta's underground base...
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...came forward to expose...
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...all the horrifying secrets
hidden in the mountain.
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His account became known
as the Dulce Papers.
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This long sought after
report has alluded...
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...UFO researchers for decades...
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...but incredibly Avery claims
to know all about it.
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So have you looked through
the Dulce Papers yourself?
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Yes, I have. I've looked through
the Dulce Papers.
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Until now, Ben had only
rumors to go on.
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But now he's found someone that
actually has seen the Papers.
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-Really? -Yeah,
but it's a while back.
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I used to work with the
Police Department...
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...we were in our Squad
Room drinking...
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-...coffee on the night shift...
-Huh-huh...
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...and there was a cabinet
in the coffee room...
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...so we kinda looked through
it and checked and...
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...we actually found a copy of
the Dulce Papers in there.
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Like, like, like in a case file?
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Yeah. It wasn't labeled.
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I do have a copy if
you'd like to see?
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I would love to take a look at that.
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It seems the Tribal Police
kept their...
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...own copy of the entire report.
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Ben can't believe what he's
seeing.
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The allegations are horrifying.
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The paper describes a seven
level deep laboratory...
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...run by humans and alien
Grays.
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The depict twisted genetic
experiments...
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...aimed at producing
hybrid organisms.
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Wow.
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This is like a vat of you know
aliens inside of them...
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...like it looks like growing them
or preserving them, right?
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And detailed sketches.
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Very interesting.
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So this researcher writes
"genetic acceleration...
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...period of gestation
three to five months".
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There's some strange symbols
here...
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...it says "computerized wall
and computerized tanks".
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Interesting.
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This is an incredible account
but Ben needs more evidence.
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Is there anyone else
around town or...
249
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...are the stories that
you've heard...
250
00:11:13,784 --> 00:11:15,917
...that kind of corroborate
you know...
251
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...that there is an
underground base?
252
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Yes, there's a woman
named Merna Hanson.
253
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A 28-year old bank teller, Merna...
254
00:11:27,386 --> 00:11:28,153
...and her son, Shawn...
255
00:11:28,286 --> 00:11:30,986
...were driving home
to Eagle's Nest...
256
00:11:31,019 --> 00:11:33,086
...just three hours from Dulce.
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What followed would change
their lives forever.
258
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Ben Hansen is investigating
reports of...
259
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...a hidden human alien
research laboratory...
260
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...conducting genetic research
near Dulce, New Mexico.
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In 1980 a woman named
Merna Hanson claimed...
262
00:11:51,487 --> 00:11:53,388
...she and her son
were abducted...
263
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...by Grays and taken to the base.
264
00:11:55,289 --> 00:11:59,989
Her and her six-year old
son were driving home...
265
00:12:00,855 --> 00:12:04,689
...and they observed some flying
saucers in the sky.
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The next thing she remembers
after that was...
267
00:12:07,990 --> 00:12:10,790
...her and her son
were in their car.
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It had no gas and it wasn't
running.
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On May 5th, 1980...
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...sitting just outside
the town of Dulce...
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...she realized she'd lost
a full six hours.
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Does she recall anything of...
273
00:12:43,794 --> 00:12:45,527
...of what happened in
the missing time.
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At the time she didn't but
she had--gone back...
275
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...to do some regression
hypnotism.
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During the time that she did that...
277
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...she found out what had
happened.
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They were taken to an
underground base.
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-Really?
-Yes.
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Apparently after they
were through...
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...with examinations
and procedures...
282
00:13:10,630 --> 00:13:13,563
...they took Merna and her
son into another room.
283
00:13:14,031 --> 00:13:18,697
She describes seeing big
baths of liquid...
284
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...with body parts in it
and she was not sure...
285
00:13:23,266 --> 00:13:25,565
...if they were human or animal
286
00:13:28,066 --> 00:13:31,232
Merna Hanson also claims she
saw the aliens conduct...
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...bizarre and painful experiments
on cattle...
288
00:13:34,733 --> 00:13:38,000
...and then she and her son's
memories were erased.
289
00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:42,234
They were subject to flashes
of bright lights...
290
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...apparently the bright
lights wiped...
291
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...their memory of the abduction.
292
00:13:49,368 --> 00:13:50,601
Wow.
293
00:13:50,735 --> 00:13:52,835
Okay, it seems like hypnosis
helped.
294
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Yes.
295
00:13:54,135 --> 00:13:57,269
Do you think there's a real
possibility that there is a...
296
00:13:57,535 --> 00:14:00,803
...an extraterrestrial
base underneath Dulce?
297
00:14:01,036 --> 00:14:02,203
I do.
298
00:14:04,636 --> 00:14:06,436
Based on what Avery's told me...
299
00:14:06,469 --> 00:14:08,337
...there are a lot of eyewitnesses
in Dulce.
300
00:14:08,837 --> 00:14:10,904
We're on our way to
meet Geri Julian...
301
00:14:10,937 --> 00:14:14,171
...a Jicarilla Elder who lives
on the outskirts of town.
302
00:14:14,337 --> 00:14:16,738
-Her husband, Larry...
-Huh-huh...
303
00:14:16,771 --> 00:14:18,771
...they used to stay
down here a lot...
304
00:14:18,871 --> 00:14:20,571
...watched their cattle.
305
00:14:20,738 --> 00:14:22,738
So a lot of times they would
just sit outside...
306
00:14:22,838 --> 00:14:25,306
...and that's when they
started seeing stuff.
307
00:14:27,406 --> 00:14:28,472
-Hello.
-Hello.
308
00:14:28,505 --> 00:14:29,239
Hello.
309
00:14:29,772 --> 00:14:32,772
-I'm Ben. -I know. Okay. -Nice to
meet you. You must be Geri.
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00:14:32,806 --> 00:14:33,539
Yes.
311
00:14:33,972 --> 00:14:37,340
So Avery has been telling me
here that you have had...
312
00:14:37,407 --> 00:14:41,440
...some incredible experiences
out here at your property...
313
00:14:41,506 --> 00:14:43,308
...because you keep cattle here.
314
00:14:43,641 --> 00:14:45,641
And I wanted to kinda hear
what's been going on.
315
00:14:45,808 --> 00:14:48,541
Geri claims to have had her
first encounter with...
316
00:14:48,574 --> 00:14:50,808
...the Dulce aliens in 1986.
317
00:14:50,908 --> 00:14:54,276
A couple of years ago we were
working up over there...
318
00:14:54,342 --> 00:14:56,675
...at Archuleta mountain, that
way.
319
00:15:01,843 --> 00:15:04,776
We just sat at the end gate.
320
00:15:07,177 --> 00:15:10,044
And then all of a sudden from
there we saw like...
321
00:15:10,144 --> 00:15:13,044
...something coming down on
the Archuleta mountain...
322
00:15:13,144 --> 00:15:14,444
...going towards the road.
323
00:15:14,477 --> 00:15:15,744
Some white.
324
00:15:15,877 --> 00:15:19,412
On top there was like
a dome like this.
325
00:15:19,445 --> 00:15:21,045
It was huge.
326
00:15:21,379 --> 00:15:24,812
And egg-shaped craft similar to
what her fellow tribal member,
327
00:15:24,845 --> 00:15:26,912
Dory, saw was getting closer.
328
00:15:27,145 --> 00:15:31,213
My husband he looked at me
and then he tells me...
329
00:15:31,246 --> 00:15:33,712
...right away he said,
"Get in the truck!"
330
00:15:33,913 --> 00:15:36,180
And then I say,
"I wanna see it too."
331
00:15:36,346 --> 00:15:38,513
He said, "No, get in the truck."
332
00:15:38,947 --> 00:15:44,047
So I put the end gate back up
and then I got in the truck.
333
00:15:47,681 --> 00:15:51,148
And then the truck wouldn't start.
334
00:15:52,348 --> 00:15:53,915
Really?
335
00:15:55,949 --> 00:15:59,183
As Geri's husband struggles
to get the truck started...
336
00:16:00,283 --> 00:16:03,583
...the couple suddenly notice
there's figures approaching.
337
00:16:04,017 --> 00:16:07,817
Two small people are already
climbing down.
338
00:16:16,218 --> 00:16:17,884
Finally.
339
00:16:23,919 --> 00:16:26,219
At that point we took off.
340
00:16:33,886 --> 00:16:35,886
Although Geri didn't
get a close look...
341
00:16:35,986 --> 00:16:39,254
...she saw the figures go back
to their egg-shaped UFO...
342
00:16:39,454 --> 00:16:41,487
...and fly back towards
the mountain.
343
00:16:41,554 --> 00:16:42,454
Wow. Wow.
344
00:16:42,787 --> 00:16:46,720
And it went back on top of Archuleta
mountain to where the...
345
00:16:46,954 --> 00:16:48,788
...the hole is. That way.
346
00:16:48,955 --> 00:16:49,922
The hole? What's the hole?
347
00:16:50,155 --> 00:16:54,855
There's a hole on the other side
of the Archuleta mountain.
348
00:16:54,888 --> 00:16:57,323
It's got a hole in it or do you
mean that it's actually open?
349
00:16:57,356 --> 00:16:59,023
They made it!
350
00:16:59,390 --> 00:17:02,856
Whoever it is, they made it!
351
00:17:04,156 --> 00:17:07,324
-Wow. -But this is not the
end of Geri's story.
352
00:17:07,523 --> 00:17:10,291
That night the beings
came back and...
353
00:17:10,324 --> 00:17:12,757
...this time she saw them up
close.
354
00:17:12,857 --> 00:17:15,724
At my house at night I woke up...
355
00:17:15,758 --> 00:17:19,292
...while it was dark in my room...
356
00:17:19,524 --> 00:17:20,758
...there were two small people...
357
00:17:20,791 --> 00:17:22,491
...they were trying
to pull me off...
358
00:17:22,524 --> 00:17:24,193
...the bed and I couldn't scream.
359
00:17:25,226 --> 00:17:28,892
So I was holding onto the
mattress down here...
360
00:17:29,126 --> 00:17:32,326
...and they were trying
to pull me off.
361
00:17:38,726 --> 00:17:41,160
Ben Hansen is in Dulce,
New Mexico...
362
00:17:41,260 --> 00:17:44,961
...on a mission to dig up the
Archuleta Mesa's darkest secrets.
363
00:17:45,328 --> 00:17:48,627
Is this table-top mountain hiding
a jointly operated...
364
00:17:48,694 --> 00:17:51,229
...human/alien genetic research
lab?
365
00:17:51,595 --> 00:17:53,062
Jicarilla Apache Elder,
366
00:17:53,096 --> 00:17:56,029
Geri Julian,
describes her close encounter...
367
00:17:56,096 --> 00:17:59,663
...with what she believes were
aliens from inside the mountain.
368
00:17:59,830 --> 00:18:02,629
Two small people they were
trying to pull me off the bed...
369
00:18:02,696 --> 00:18:03,729
...and I couldn't scream.
370
00:18:03,896 --> 00:18:07,663
And she has a specific name
for her would-be abductors.
371
00:18:07,763 --> 00:18:09,530
The Star people.
372
00:18:09,664 --> 00:18:12,931
I was holding on to the
mattress down here...
373
00:18:13,364 --> 00:18:16,131
...and they were trying
to pull me off.
374
00:18:17,299 --> 00:18:23,099
And then my husband like moved
and then they let me go.
375
00:18:23,865 --> 00:18:28,400
And then all day the next day I
couldn't get it off my mind.
376
00:18:28,499 --> 00:18:30,499
What if they come again tonight?
377
00:18:30,599 --> 00:18:32,632
What if they really take me?
378
00:18:35,533 --> 00:18:37,600
They're, they're the Star people.
379
00:18:38,167 --> 00:18:40,267
So is that what you believe
is that they're...
380
00:18:40,301 --> 00:18:42,567
...they're extraterrestrial?
381
00:18:44,568 --> 00:18:46,901
Well Geri, thank you so much
for your time and...
382
00:18:47,068 --> 00:18:48,068
...and agreeing to meet
with us and...
383
00:18:48,202 --> 00:18:50,634
...some of your experiences
sound quite frightening.
384
00:18:50,668 --> 00:18:52,235
But it, it matches up
with a lot of...
385
00:18:52,268 --> 00:18:53,535
...what other people are telling
me.
386
00:18:53,569 --> 00:18:57,036
So I want to thank
you for your time.
387
00:18:58,136 --> 00:19:01,002
Everybody in town has some
sort of story that...
388
00:19:01,203 --> 00:19:03,970
...they've seen something here
or they know somebody.
389
00:19:04,170 --> 00:19:07,536
UFO craft coming and going
in the mountain.
390
00:19:07,636 --> 00:19:08,337
I believe Dory.
391
00:19:08,570 --> 00:19:10,637
I believe that he didn't
hoax this photo.
392
00:19:10,737 --> 00:19:13,205
What it is is still unidentified.
393
00:19:13,238 --> 00:19:14,604
It's, it's a true UFO.
394
00:19:14,637 --> 00:19:16,604
And does it support some
of the other...
395
00:19:16,637 --> 00:19:17,537
...stories of people in town?
396
00:19:17,704 --> 00:19:20,972
Yeah. They've been witnessing
strange objects...
397
00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:22,839
...like this for many, many years.
398
00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:24,805
I really had no idea there was...
399
00:19:24,872 --> 00:19:27,339
...so much activity reported
in this part of New Mexico.
400
00:19:30,073 --> 00:19:33,040
To find out what's really
hiding in New Mexico,
401
00:19:33,073 --> 00:19:35,806
Ben will need to dig further
into the past.
402
00:19:35,940 --> 00:19:37,707
He's been granted special
access...
403
00:19:37,740 --> 00:19:39,274
...to the top secret archives...
404
00:19:39,441 --> 00:19:41,007
...that Dr. J. Allen Hynek...
405
00:19:41,108 --> 00:19:43,574
...lead investigator for
the Air Force's...
406
00:19:43,607 --> 00:19:45,007
...Project Blue Book program.
407
00:19:45,108 --> 00:19:47,541
It was Blue Book's mission
to explain...
408
00:19:47,575 --> 00:19:49,409
...away strange UFO
phenomenon...
409
00:19:49,541 --> 00:19:51,242
...but Dr. Hynek soon realized...
410
00:19:51,275 --> 00:19:54,575
...some of these strange sightings
could not be debunked.
411
00:19:54,708 --> 00:19:58,110
I'm in Kalamazoo, Michigan going to
the CUFOS Library.
412
00:19:58,243 --> 00:19:59,943
I wanna get to the bottom
of whether...
413
00:19:59,976 --> 00:20:02,676
...the Archuleta Mesa is housing
an underground base.
414
00:20:02,809 --> 00:20:04,577
-Hey, Ben.
-Hey, Mark.
415
00:20:04,810 --> 00:20:08,177
And UFO historian, Mark O'Connell,
has agreed to help.
416
00:20:08,610 --> 00:20:09,344
So everyone knows that
417
00:20:09,677 --> 00:20:13,178
New Mexico is a hot-spot
for UFO activity, right?
418
00:20:13,345 --> 00:20:15,878
I've been researching rumors
of a jointly operated...
419
00:20:15,911 --> 00:20:19,378
...human and alien underground
base in Dulce, New Mexico.
420
00:20:19,478 --> 00:20:22,413
It's a facility where allegedly
our Government allows aliens...
421
00:20:22,446 --> 00:20:23,846
...to experiment on humans...
422
00:20:23,946 --> 00:20:26,012
...in return for their
advanced technology.
423
00:20:26,146 --> 00:20:29,246
There have been reports of
egg-shaped UFOs flying...
424
00:20:29,346 --> 00:20:31,913
...in and out of the mountain and
I've spoken to one witness...
425
00:20:32,047 --> 00:20:34,247
...who says she was nearly
abducted.
426
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,447
Historically have there been any
other sightings in that area?
427
00:20:38,746 --> 00:20:41,148
The big one would be
the Socorro case.
428
00:20:41,315 --> 00:20:44,547
It involved a traffic cop who
saw a strange object...
429
00:20:44,814 --> 00:20:47,448
...and watched it blast
off into the sky.
430
00:20:47,614 --> 00:20:48,648
So we have a couple of tapes
here.
431
00:20:48,782 --> 00:20:51,682
The first one is an interview
with the traffic copy...
432
00:20:51,715 --> 00:20:54,582
-...Lonnie Zamora,
-...the man who saw the UFO.
433
00:20:54,849 --> 00:20:56,915
Let's have a listen to it.
434
00:21:21,452 --> 00:21:23,452
But when Zamora arrived
on the scene...
435
00:21:23,485 --> 00:21:25,286
...he didn't find an
exploded shack...
436
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,286
...instead he saw something
he couldn't fathom.
437
00:21:48,188 --> 00:21:51,655
Zamora's first instinct
was to go to their aid.
438
00:22:29,127 --> 00:22:31,293
You know what I love
about this story?
439
00:22:31,427 --> 00:22:35,093
He's giving the details that
are very pertinent...
440
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,261
...that don't fit that
typical UFO sighting.
441
00:22:39,161 --> 00:22:44,094
It's egg-shaped and these men or
creatures in white coveralls.
442
00:22:44,561 --> 00:22:46,129
Right, it's,
it's unlike any other case...
443
00:22:46,162 --> 00:22:47,262
...that I've really heard
and then the flame.
444
00:22:47,295 --> 00:22:50,462
So it's like why--if you're
gonna make up a story...
445
00:22:50,495 --> 00:22:52,129
...you now to get people
to believe you...
446
00:22:52,162 --> 00:22:54,296
...why wouldn't you just
make up your typical...
447
00:22:54,396 --> 00:22:58,430
...yeah, here's, here's my UFO
encounter and leave it at that?
448
00:22:58,463 --> 00:22:59,729
Especially when you consider
that...
449
00:22:59,762 --> 00:23:01,996
...he immediately called
in for back-up.
450
00:23:04,997 --> 00:23:06,563
If he was making this up there's...
451
00:23:06,597 --> 00:23:07,597
...no way he's calling for back-up.
452
00:23:07,763 --> 00:23:12,398
No. He wanted to let people
know I'm not crazy, right?
453
00:23:12,531 --> 00:23:14,432
Someone else has gotta see this.
454
00:23:15,232 --> 00:23:18,631
You should listen to
this tape as well.
455
00:23:19,065 --> 00:23:22,765
This is Dr. Hynek talking
about the Socorro case.
456
00:23:48,502 --> 00:23:52,069
So it has the Dr.
Hynek stamp of approval, right?
457
00:23:52,102 --> 00:23:53,069
Very much so.
458
00:23:53,302 --> 00:23:56,603
He, he doesn't come out very
often and say "I'm puzzled,
459
00:23:56,636 --> 00:23:58,903
I can't figure this one out."
460
00:23:59,003 --> 00:24:00,870
This was one of Hynek's
favorite cases...
461
00:24:01,003 --> 00:24:02,736
...if not his absolute favorite...
462
00:24:02,769 --> 00:24:04,403
...and he really got
into conflict...
463
00:24:04,437 --> 00:24:05,837
...with the Air Force in this one.
464
00:24:06,204 --> 00:24:09,404
The Government's explanation
not only upset Hynek...
465
00:24:09,438 --> 00:24:11,071
...but it defied common sense.
466
00:24:11,271 --> 00:24:15,139
Here's the official Project Blue
Book conclusion of the case.
467
00:24:15,239 --> 00:24:18,405
They say it was unexplained
but mostly likely...
468
00:24:18,538 --> 00:24:21,139
...a prototype NASA lunar lander.
469
00:24:23,206 --> 00:24:24,572
I don't know that I'd buy that.
470
00:24:24,606 --> 00:24:26,240
It doesn't make a whole
lot of sense.
471
00:24:26,306 --> 00:24:28,672
Has the Government been
covering up the truth...
472
00:24:28,706 --> 00:24:30,273
...behind the Archuleta Mesa?
473
00:24:30,406 --> 00:24:33,407
Did Lonnie Zamora witness one
of the egg-shaped crafts...
474
00:24:33,441 --> 00:24:36,573
-...coming from the underground
base? -And like Geri...
475
00:24:36,607 --> 00:24:37,274
I couldn't scream...
476
00:24:37,474 --> 00:24:40,841
...did he narrowly escape
abduction?
477
00:24:45,475 --> 00:24:46,208
There it is!
478
00:24:46,808 --> 00:24:50,276
Ben's investigation into the secret
UFO base at Archuleta Mesa...
479
00:24:50,343 --> 00:24:52,276
...has revealed another
unexplained...
480
00:24:52,309 --> 00:24:54,042
...mystery in New Mexico's past...
481
00:24:54,076 --> 00:24:54,876
...the Socorro case.
482
00:24:55,009 --> 00:24:57,143
In which patrolman, Lonnie
Zamora...
483
00:24:57,243 --> 00:24:59,776
...swore he saw an egg-shaped
spacecraft...
484
00:24:59,843 --> 00:25:02,210
...manned by two small beings.
485
00:25:07,345 --> 00:25:08,878
Incredibly the Government
claimed...
486
00:25:08,944 --> 00:25:12,078
...what Zamora saw was
simply a lunar lander.
487
00:25:12,378 --> 00:25:14,044
So this is 1964 right?
488
00:25:14,111 --> 00:25:16,912
-Yeah.
-I, I can't be certain...
489
00:25:17,346 --> 00:25:21,578
...but I'm going to guess there's
no confirmed documentation...
490
00:25:21,678 --> 00:25:24,446
...that we were testing the
lunar module in Socorro...
491
00:25:24,479 --> 00:25:26,880
...which is a small
town in New Mexico.
492
00:25:26,980 --> 00:25:30,013
They would have no business
doing it out there in the desert.
493
00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:32,913
I've never bought that story
for a couple of reasons.
494
00:25:33,113 --> 00:25:36,947
First of all we all remember from
the Moon landings that...
495
00:25:37,047 --> 00:25:39,281
...when the lunar lander
blasted off...
496
00:25:39,314 --> 00:25:41,381
...it left it's landing
gears behind.
497
00:25:41,580 --> 00:25:43,482
This craft that Officer
Zamora saw...
498
00:25:43,515 --> 00:25:44,915
...didn't leave anything behind.
499
00:25:45,182 --> 00:25:47,681
-The second thing is, -...when the
lunar lander took off it...
500
00:25:47,715 --> 00:25:50,615
-...could only travel in one
direction, -...straight up.
501
00:25:50,648 --> 00:25:52,749
The object that Officer
Zamora saw...
502
00:25:52,816 --> 00:25:56,049
...blasted straight up and
then went horizontally...
503
00:25:56,083 --> 00:25:58,616
...across the landscape
until it disappeared...
504
00:25:58,649 --> 00:25:59,450
...behind the mountains.
505
00:25:59,649 --> 00:26:03,650
So if it was ours it had
capabilities beyond...
506
00:26:03,783 --> 00:26:06,750
...what our lunar module
had three years later...
507
00:26:06,817 --> 00:26:08,750
...which doesn't make sense.
508
00:26:08,783 --> 00:26:11,885
Well there's a reason why this
case was Dr. Hynek's favorite.
509
00:26:11,918 --> 00:26:12,718
There was evidence here that...
510
00:26:12,951 --> 00:26:15,152
...something really
significant had happened.
511
00:26:15,352 --> 00:26:19,052
Hynek didn't get to the bottom of
it but it's worth exploring.
512
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,052
Well if Hynek thought
it was intriguing...
513
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,052
...and something didn't smell
right that's enough for me.
514
00:26:24,086 --> 00:26:25,719
I wanna go check it out for
myself.
515
00:26:26,052 --> 00:26:28,686
Not only was Lonnie Zamora
deemed by Hynek...
516
00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:30,620
...to be a highly credible
witness...
517
00:26:30,653 --> 00:26:32,987
...his encounter happened just
south of the region...
518
00:26:33,053 --> 00:26:35,520
...where Dory Vigil snapped
his photo of an...
519
00:26:35,553 --> 00:26:38,054
...egg-shaped object streaking
across the sky.
520
00:26:38,155 --> 00:26:41,754
Is it possible that spacecraft based
inside the Archuleta Mesa...
521
00:26:41,787 --> 00:26:45,489
...have been flying through New
Mexico skies for decades?
522
00:26:46,955 --> 00:26:50,122
Ben is heading back to New
Mexico to find out.
523
00:26:50,622 --> 00:26:52,522
I'm in Socorro, New Mexico.
524
00:26:52,722 --> 00:26:55,290
I'm checking out this 1964 case.
525
00:26:55,390 --> 00:26:57,023
It was very unique.
526
00:26:57,689 --> 00:27:00,956
Socorro was a small remote town
in Central New Mexico.
527
00:27:01,257 --> 00:27:04,124
It has a population of just
over 8000 people...
528
00:27:04,324 --> 00:27:08,291
...and it's surrounded by desert
in every direction for miles.
529
00:27:08,324 --> 00:27:11,891
So I'm going to talk with Ben
Moss, he's a UFO researcher.
530
00:27:11,991 --> 00:27:14,259
He's been kind of passed
the torch...
531
00:27:14,292 --> 00:27:16,159
...from the original investigator...
532
00:27:16,192 --> 00:27:17,092
...so he knows all about it.
533
00:27:17,425 --> 00:27:19,791
He's gonna tell me how this case
fits into the big mystery...
534
00:27:19,825 --> 00:27:23,059
...which is what exactly
did Zamora see...
535
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,859
...and has it returned
to this region?
536
00:27:26,059 --> 00:27:27,126
Ben.
537
00:27:27,226 --> 00:27:28,226
Ben Hansen, I presume.
538
00:27:28,293 --> 00:27:30,894
-Yes. Thank you for meeting
me out here. -Sure.
539
00:27:30,927 --> 00:27:31,494
It's good to finally meet you.
540
00:27:31,727 --> 00:27:32,693
Wonderful day for an
investigation.
541
00:27:33,027 --> 00:27:37,660
I'm excited because I've heard so
much about this, this case...
542
00:27:37,693 --> 00:27:38,461
...the location.
543
00:27:38,928 --> 00:27:41,628
-Is it close to here? -It's right
over this burn behind us.
544
00:27:41,661 --> 00:27:42,228
-Do you wanna jump in,
-Sounds good.
545
00:27:42,462 --> 00:27:44,295
-we'll go check it out.
-Alrighty.
546
00:27:45,061 --> 00:27:47,162
The Bens are headed to
the exact site...
547
00:27:47,195 --> 00:27:50,695
...where Zamora said the
egg-shaped craft had landed.
548
00:27:51,363 --> 00:27:52,929
So on the right here
is the memorial...
549
00:27:52,962 --> 00:27:55,463
...that the city built
to Lonnie Zamora.
550
00:27:55,662 --> 00:27:57,097
Look at that.
551
00:27:58,164 --> 00:27:59,530
When did they put that up?
552
00:27:59,663 --> 00:28:01,997
After he died in 2009.
553
00:28:02,530 --> 00:28:04,596
Which is really kind of unusual...
554
00:28:04,763 --> 00:28:06,864
...that any Government agency
you...
555
00:28:06,898 --> 00:28:10,165
-...know recognizes a UFO
sighting. -Definitely. Definitely.
556
00:28:10,198 --> 00:28:13,165
And Lonnie was a very
respected citizen.
557
00:28:13,631 --> 00:28:16,732
Surprisingly this hasn't
changed since 1964.
558
00:28:16,798 --> 00:28:18,698
-Right here?
-Yes. -Let's do it.
559
00:28:18,798 --> 00:28:22,532
When Blue Book investigators
arrived on scene 56 years ago...
560
00:28:22,598 --> 00:28:24,633
...they placed stones around
the impressions...
561
00:28:24,666 --> 00:28:27,500
...left by the spacecraft's
four landing pads.
562
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:30,433
Decades later those hollows
have filled in...
563
00:28:30,666 --> 00:28:32,934
...but the rocks remain
marking the exact...
564
00:28:32,967 --> 00:28:34,967
...position of the UFO's landing.
565
00:28:35,234 --> 00:28:36,767
Here we are.
566
00:28:38,934 --> 00:28:40,867
I've got a measuring tape here.
567
00:28:40,967 --> 00:28:43,768
I'm curious how far apart
these would be.
568
00:28:43,801 --> 00:28:45,735
So between here and there.
569
00:28:46,068 --> 00:28:49,868
That in the center here
we have thirteen feet.
570
00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:52,170
And then would this be another
one?
571
00:28:52,303 --> 00:28:53,769
That would be another one.
572
00:28:54,170 --> 00:28:55,503
I got twenty feet here.
573
00:28:55,602 --> 00:28:58,969
Okay, so this is a
substantial craft.
574
00:28:59,003 --> 00:29:01,204
Yes. Dr. Hynek took some
measurements...
575
00:29:01,237 --> 00:29:03,037
...and estimated that the craft
had to weigh about...
576
00:29:03,070 --> 00:29:04,737
...nine tons to make
those depressions.
577
00:29:04,770 --> 00:29:06,304
-Nine tons.
-Nine tons.
578
00:29:06,371 --> 00:29:10,372
That's a nuts and bolts like
physical heavy object.
579
00:29:10,405 --> 00:29:12,804
That's a very heavy craft to
have sitting down here...
580
00:29:12,838 --> 00:29:14,172
...and I would imagine
the only way...
581
00:29:14,205 --> 00:29:15,038
...you would get something
down here...
582
00:29:15,205 --> 00:29:18,039
...like that would be to
fly it and drop it in.
583
00:29:18,572 --> 00:29:20,406
Wow! Wow!
584
00:29:20,772 --> 00:29:23,473
When you cross section this the
flame came out directly...
585
00:29:23,539 --> 00:29:25,406
...in the center of the
four landing pads.
586
00:29:25,572 --> 00:29:27,007
Look like it surgically--almost...
587
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,673
...like you had taken
a blow torch...
588
00:29:28,806 --> 00:29:30,540
...and cut this creosote
bush in half...
589
00:29:30,573 --> 00:29:32,907
...which is really hard to do
with these resinous plants...
590
00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:35,041
...it requires a lot of heat.
591
00:29:35,574 --> 00:29:37,574
I have this original
photograph taken...
592
00:29:37,607 --> 00:29:39,375
...by Blue Book
at the scene...
593
00:29:39,508 --> 00:29:41,908
...and this is the creosote bush
that was burned in half.
594
00:29:42,041 --> 00:29:45,708
And you can see quite clearly
it's almost sliced precision.
595
00:29:45,808 --> 00:29:47,509
Oh, wow, yeah! Yeah.
596
00:29:47,642 --> 00:29:49,675
And it even said if
you took a blow...
597
00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:51,442
...torch you couldn't recreate this.
598
00:29:51,808 --> 00:29:54,976
-No, it would just set the
thing on fire. -Exactly.
599
00:29:57,477 --> 00:29:59,243
And did anyone else witness
this?
600
00:29:59,477 --> 00:30:01,744
Well the case it gets
more interesting.
601
00:30:01,810 --> 00:30:04,378
In the north direction from here...
602
00:30:04,511 --> 00:30:07,677
...there are initially three
witnesses independently called...
603
00:30:07,844 --> 00:30:08,677
...into the dispatch scene.
604
00:30:09,077 --> 00:30:12,912
"I see an object with a blue flame
heading towards Socorro."
605
00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:16,179
This testimony doesn't just
corroborate Zamora's account...
606
00:30:16,212 --> 00:30:18,279
...it suggests that the
spacecraft came...
607
00:30:18,312 --> 00:30:21,380
...from the exact direction
of the Archuleta Mesa
608
00:30:23,979 --> 00:30:25,712
And then other people arrived.
609
00:30:25,913 --> 00:30:27,513
Did they take photos?
610
00:30:27,579 --> 00:30:30,347
Another officer who always
carried a camera...
611
00:30:30,381 --> 00:30:31,713
...he came and took,
612
00:30:31,780 --> 00:30:33,647
I believe about nine shots.
613
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,014
Dr. Hynek later confirmed
that the...
614
00:30:36,047 --> 00:30:37,981
...film was fogged by radiation.
615
00:30:38,848 --> 00:30:41,648
Yeah, a lunar lander wouldn't
cause radiation.
616
00:30:41,948 --> 00:30:43,515
That is, that is really odd.
617
00:30:43,648 --> 00:30:46,283
You know I,
I do have a Geiger counter.
618
00:30:46,316 --> 00:30:48,516
-Why don't go and grab that.
-Great. Let's do that.
619
00:30:48,582 --> 00:30:50,882
Radiation is said to
be a telltale...
620
00:30:50,916 --> 00:30:53,149
...sign of an extraterrestrial
craft.
621
00:30:53,216 --> 00:30:56,850
While most aircraft are powered
by conventional fuels...
622
00:30:57,050 --> 00:30:59,583
...it's believed that
alien ships run...
623
00:30:59,616 --> 00:31:02,250
...on some sort of nuclear
technology.
624
00:31:02,750 --> 00:31:05,751
Okay so, so let's see if there's
still any radiation here.
625
00:31:05,951 --> 00:31:08,684
I always do like to kinda
scan the area.
626
00:31:13,852 --> 00:31:16,519
Oh, wait! Wait a minute, here we
go.
627
00:31:16,585 --> 00:31:19,119
Whoa! We're definitely getting
something here.
628
00:31:20,652 --> 00:31:21,352
Wow, okay.
629
00:31:21,718 --> 00:31:24,453
So I can tell you the radiation
is quite a bit...
630
00:31:24,487 --> 00:31:27,487
...by far more than what
I normally find.
631
00:31:27,719 --> 00:31:30,086
You know with top soil
like this though
632
00:31:30,187 --> 00:31:33,620
I wouldn't expect there to be any
trace after this many years.
633
00:31:33,687 --> 00:31:35,288
But I'm definitely getting a hit...
634
00:31:35,388 --> 00:31:37,421
...and an experimental
lunar lander...
635
00:31:37,454 --> 00:31:39,488
...would not have left
any radiation.
636
00:31:39,587 --> 00:31:42,189
The levels are higher than
normal background.
637
00:31:42,655 --> 00:31:47,088
We probably could have in
1964 created a craft...
638
00:31:47,155 --> 00:31:49,290
...that weighed nine tons,
looked like an egg...
639
00:31:49,323 --> 00:31:50,956
...sits on landing gear...
640
00:31:51,156 --> 00:31:54,190
...but we couldn't have replicated
how this things moved.
641
00:31:54,722 --> 00:31:56,622
Nor is there a logical
explanation...
642
00:31:56,656 --> 00:31:57,823
...for the radiation left behind.
643
00:31:57,924 --> 00:32:01,857
Lonnie Zamora claimed after the
object rose off the ground...
644
00:32:01,957 --> 00:32:03,857
...it immediately sped
into the distance...
645
00:32:03,890 --> 00:32:05,990
...and disappeared over
the mountains...
646
00:32:06,024 --> 00:32:07,658
...reaching unheard of speeds.
647
00:32:08,058 --> 00:32:10,858
It came up using jet
propulsion system...
648
00:32:10,891 --> 00:32:12,325
...lots of noise, roaring...
649
00:32:12,492 --> 00:32:16,193
...blue flame coming out and
then it goes silent and...
650
00:32:16,526 --> 00:32:18,825
...and it sails off.
651
00:32:18,959 --> 00:32:21,892
We do not, still to this day...
652
00:32:22,026 --> 00:32:23,859
...have such conventional aircraft.
653
00:32:23,992 --> 00:32:26,860
-Dory,
-Merna, Geri, Zamora...
654
00:32:26,993 --> 00:32:30,726
...all claim to have seen egg-shaped
UFOs in New Mexico...
655
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,928
...but were they all flying in and
out of an underground base...
656
00:32:34,028 --> 00:32:36,561
...that conducted genetic
experiments?
657
00:32:40,661 --> 00:32:44,129
Ben Hansen is investigating
rumors of egg-shaped UFOs...
658
00:32:44,162 --> 00:32:46,462
...seen flying in and
out of an alleged...
659
00:32:46,496 --> 00:32:48,062
...underground base in Dulce,
660
00:32:48,129 --> 00:32:48,895
New Mexico.
661
00:32:49,129 --> 00:32:51,963
He's come across similar
sighting in Socorro,
662
00:32:52,096 --> 00:32:53,829
250 miles south.
663
00:32:53,896 --> 00:32:57,397
The Government claim the UFO
was actually a lunar lander...
664
00:32:57,563 --> 00:32:59,897
...but even Project Blue
Book investigator,
665
00:32:59,997 --> 00:33:02,264
Dr. Hynek had his doubts.
666
00:33:02,431 --> 00:33:06,131
Ben Hansen is visiting the local
Socorro newspaper archives...
667
00:33:06,231 --> 00:33:08,198
...to see if there are
any more clues...
668
00:33:08,231 --> 00:33:10,165
...about Zamora's strange
encounter.
669
00:33:10,332 --> 00:33:13,299
We're here to look at the
archives, we called earlier.
670
00:33:13,365 --> 00:33:14,698
You can go right ahead.
671
00:33:14,731 --> 00:33:16,365
I appreciate it, thanks a lot.
672
00:33:16,665 --> 00:33:19,366
While Ben Moss reviews copies
of the local paper,
673
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,866
Ben Hansen searches for articles
from other New Mexico towns.
674
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:25,699
Found some goodies?
675
00:33:25,766 --> 00:33:27,434
Yeah. Yeah, looks like it.
676
00:33:27,501 --> 00:33:28,900
Right, let's check this out.
677
00:33:29,201 --> 00:33:30,501
So what have you got there?
678
00:33:30,534 --> 00:33:34,134
I've got 1964,
El Defensor, news articles.
679
00:33:34,267 --> 00:33:36,768
So it came out what,
a couple of days after the day.
680
00:33:36,834 --> 00:33:40,135
So we're looking for April 28th.
681
00:33:40,601 --> 00:33:41,701
-Bingo!
-Oh yeah.
682
00:33:41,734 --> 00:33:43,202
A young Dr. Hynek.
683
00:33:43,235 --> 00:33:44,769
He's wearing a bolo tie...
684
00:33:44,835 --> 00:33:47,136
...kinda, kinda fit in
with the locals here.
685
00:33:47,303 --> 00:33:51,069
Dr. Hynek feels Zamora's
account is solid not a hoax.
686
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:54,470
This article dated just a few days
after the Zamora incident...
687
00:33:54,703 --> 00:33:57,736
...proves Hynek didn't buy
the lunar lander cover-up.
688
00:33:57,836 --> 00:34:00,903
He believed Zamora saw
something other worldly.
689
00:34:01,070 --> 00:34:03,938
That's a big recommendation
from a Blue Book Investigator.
690
00:34:04,004 --> 00:34:06,238
But Lonnie Zamora wasn't
the only person...
691
00:34:06,338 --> 00:34:09,737
...who claims to have seen
a UFO back in 1964.
692
00:34:09,771 --> 00:34:11,805
I found some other
things in here...
693
00:34:12,005 --> 00:34:14,472
...that wasn't just on this case.
694
00:34:14,772 --> 00:34:17,939
Here's one talking about people
reporting seeing...
695
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:20,440
...something landing
north of Espanola.
696
00:34:20,507 --> 00:34:21,606
Look at this.
697
00:34:21,706 --> 00:34:23,839
"A boy set afire by a blob."
698
00:34:24,273 --> 00:34:27,040
His grandmother was inside and
she heard a weird sound...
699
00:34:27,073 --> 00:34:28,806
...like something whizzing
by really fast.
700
00:34:28,973 --> 00:34:30,740
She looked around and he's
covered in black...
701
00:34:30,807 --> 00:34:33,241
...and his hair's standing
on end and it's burning.
702
00:34:33,341 --> 00:34:34,707
Whatever Zamora saw...
703
00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:37,241
...it seems he wasn't
it's only target.
704
00:34:37,674 --> 00:34:40,608
-Wow.
-And he talks about a...
705
00:34:40,675 --> 00:34:42,575
...an object that looked
like a top...
706
00:34:42,608 --> 00:34:44,841
...that came down and basically
hovered over him...
707
00:34:44,875 --> 00:34:46,475
...and shot flames out.
708
00:34:46,575 --> 00:34:48,076
Sound familiar?
709
00:34:48,276 --> 00:34:49,543
Flames!
710
00:34:49,742 --> 00:34:51,376
Look at that, there's another one.
711
00:34:51,543 --> 00:34:53,876
A ten-year old girl says
she was burned...
712
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:55,676
...while watching a strange
egg-shaped thing...
713
00:34:55,709 --> 00:34:57,377
...in the sky yesterday afternoon.
714
00:34:57,411 --> 00:34:59,677
This happens in Hobbs...
715
00:35:00,110 --> 00:35:02,843
...which I think is over
by Roswell, right?
716
00:35:03,511 --> 00:35:06,711
What we have evidence of is it's
not just here in Socorro.
717
00:35:06,744 --> 00:35:08,844
So many towns would be lit up...
718
00:35:08,878 --> 00:35:11,545
...with sightings that
are quite frightening.
719
00:35:12,011 --> 00:35:14,046
This thing was everywhere.
720
00:35:14,313 --> 00:35:17,046
I uncovered something that
was not very well known...
721
00:35:17,246 --> 00:35:20,845
...and that was two
cases where UFOs...
722
00:35:20,879 --> 00:35:24,380
...allegedly came so
close to children...
723
00:35:24,447 --> 00:35:25,813
...that it caused physical harm.
724
00:35:25,913 --> 00:35:26,947
You know what is going on?
725
00:35:27,180 --> 00:35:31,614
I wanna know if there's any truth
to the rumors around Dulce.
726
00:35:31,747 --> 00:35:35,714
Is it possible there's
a secret alien base?
727
00:35:38,747 --> 00:35:41,648
Merna Hanson continues to
be the only eyewitness...
728
00:35:41,748 --> 00:35:43,782
...who has set foot inside the
base.
729
00:35:44,049 --> 00:35:48,249
So Ben does a deep dive into the
background of her account.
730
00:35:48,416 --> 00:35:50,050
What's interesting is that...
731
00:35:50,116 --> 00:35:54,016
...all the records from Merna
were destroyed, ironically...
732
00:35:54,217 --> 00:35:57,783
...but I did discover one person
who was key to this...
733
00:35:57,950 --> 00:36:01,184
...who reviewed the regression
hypnosis of Merna Hanson...
734
00:36:01,284 --> 00:36:02,650
...and his name is Paul Benoit.
735
00:36:02,750 --> 00:36:04,551
Paul is, is a key figure to this.
736
00:36:04,684 --> 00:36:07,952
He was convinced the
Merna did find...
737
00:36:08,085 --> 00:36:11,419
...evidence of an underground
base there at the Mesa.
738
00:36:11,651 --> 00:36:14,219
In his papers he's quoted as
saying,
739
00:36:14,319 --> 00:36:18,086
"Their base is on the west
slope of Mount Archuleta.
740
00:36:18,386 --> 00:36:19,986
The base it stands north of this...
741
00:36:20,019 --> 00:36:21,752
...peak to the edge of the cliff.
742
00:36:21,886 --> 00:36:25,587
I would guess it is an
underground launch egress facility.
743
00:36:25,954 --> 00:36:27,920
They are not to be trusted.
744
00:36:28,087 --> 00:36:31,054
They must be stopped and
have to get off...
745
00:36:31,087 --> 00:36:33,521
...before we find time has run
out."
746
00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:35,888
He was absolutely entrenched
in the...
747
00:36:35,921 --> 00:36:37,788
...information coming to him but...
748
00:36:38,155 --> 00:36:40,688
...the thing was he was
the subject of...
749
00:36:40,721 --> 00:36:43,256
...an Air Force disinformation
campaign.
750
00:36:43,289 --> 00:36:43,689
We know that.
751
00:36:44,423 --> 00:36:46,323
I talked to one of the officers
who was involved in it.
752
00:36:46,755 --> 00:36:49,722
We knew it was not
from this earth...
753
00:36:49,822 --> 00:36:51,256
...extraterrestrial.
754
00:36:51,856 --> 00:36:56,257
Those particular sightings we
had to disinform the public.
755
00:36:56,524 --> 00:36:58,890
Before he died in 2003...
756
00:36:58,957 --> 00:37:01,158
...he was convinced there was
an underground base...
757
00:37:01,191 --> 00:37:03,258
...underneath the Archuleta
Mesa.
758
00:37:03,558 --> 00:37:05,757
Geri, Dory, Avery...
759
00:37:05,857 --> 00:37:07,624
...they're all taking
a path walked...
760
00:37:07,657 --> 00:37:09,458
...by Benoits and Zamora
decades ago.
761
00:37:09,658 --> 00:37:11,492
I'm headed back to Archuleta
Mesa to...
762
00:37:11,526 --> 00:37:13,092
...figure out where
that path ends...
763
00:37:13,125 --> 00:37:15,092
...and maybe the entrance
to that base.
764
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:19,360
There's a hole on the other side
of that Archuleta Mountain.
765
00:37:19,893 --> 00:37:22,160
Got a hole or do you mean
that it's actually open?
766
00:37:22,193 --> 00:37:23,693
They made it!
767
00:37:23,726 --> 00:37:26,726
-So you, -Whoever it is,
they made it.
768
00:37:30,894 --> 00:37:33,228
Ben's investigation has
him convinced...
769
00:37:33,261 --> 00:37:35,228
...there's something very
strange happening...
770
00:37:35,261 --> 00:37:38,795
...around the town of Dulce
and the Archuleta Mesa.
771
00:37:38,995 --> 00:37:40,928
But is it really possible
that there could be...
772
00:37:40,962 --> 00:37:43,128
...an underground base
within a mountain?
773
00:37:43,429 --> 00:37:47,230
Ben has enlisted the help of
Jicarilla Apache Tribe member,
774
00:37:47,396 --> 00:37:50,629
Avery Tafoya to see for himself.
775
00:37:53,496 --> 00:37:55,897
The road is so narrow...
776
00:37:56,730 --> 00:37:59,863
...that I can barely squeeze
by without...
777
00:37:59,897 --> 00:38:02,431
...riding up over the embankment.
778
00:38:02,763 --> 00:38:07,965
It's pretty far a way down so
we gotta go really slow.
779
00:38:16,732 --> 00:38:18,566
She's crabbing though,
she's crabbing.
780
00:38:18,699 --> 00:38:20,433
She wants to go left.
781
00:38:22,067 --> 00:38:24,033
There you go.
782
00:38:37,368 --> 00:38:40,635
Whoa ho ho! Ho ho ho ho ho!
783
00:38:42,602 --> 00:38:43,436
Come on.
784
00:38:43,835 --> 00:38:46,302
Notice I'm starting to shed
clothes, this is very stressful.
785
00:38:46,436 --> 00:38:48,270
We gotta be very careful here.
786
00:38:54,437 --> 00:38:55,903
Oh boy.
787
00:38:56,270 --> 00:38:59,271
-Let's get out and take
a look. -Alright.
788
00:38:59,471 --> 00:39:00,604
This isn't good.
789
00:39:00,670 --> 00:39:01,438
Look at this.
790
00:39:01,737 --> 00:39:04,937
Somebody else tried coming
up and then backed out.
791
00:39:06,372 --> 00:39:08,871
If we come up here,
it still quite a ways up isn't it?
792
00:39:08,905 --> 00:39:11,472
-Yes, it is.
-Might be our only option.
793
00:39:11,505 --> 00:39:12,972
Alright.
794
00:39:18,473 --> 00:39:21,973
This has gotta be some of the
most difficult terrain
795
00:39:22,006 --> 00:39:24,673
I've ever traveled four-wheeling.
796
00:39:25,007 --> 00:39:28,441
I am getting a little run on it so
hold onto your hat.
797
00:39:31,541 --> 00:39:33,008
Oh, shoot!
798
00:39:35,342 --> 00:39:36,741
We, we have a drone...
799
00:39:36,908 --> 00:39:39,542
...we got thermal and I
wanna start hiking...
800
00:39:39,575 --> 00:39:42,009
...just at least to the base here.
801
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:44,976
I know a lot of people talked
about evidence...
802
00:39:45,009 --> 00:39:47,209
...that something is
built underground.
803
00:39:47,409 --> 00:39:49,176
Why don't we put up the drone.
804
00:39:57,244 --> 00:39:58,943
Well this is just really
cool to be...
805
00:39:58,977 --> 00:40:00,711
...up around here and
looking around.
806
00:40:01,345 --> 00:40:04,578
We should see the radio towers
here in just a second.
807
00:40:04,611 --> 00:40:05,278
There we go...
808
00:40:05,511 --> 00:40:07,478
...so here's,
here's our radio towers.
809
00:40:07,611 --> 00:40:10,346
On top of the mountain
is the Jicarilla...
810
00:40:10,379 --> 00:40:11,945
...Apache owned radio towers.
811
00:40:12,112 --> 00:40:14,446
According to Avery they're
unmanned.
812
00:40:14,645 --> 00:40:16,045
There's no sign of anyone up
there.
813
00:40:16,112 --> 00:40:19,646
There's no vehicles which
is like we said.
814
00:40:19,846 --> 00:40:22,946
Now what I was hearing from
people is that you...
815
00:40:23,113 --> 00:40:24,946
...you pan around the
other side that's...
816
00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:26,414
...where they're seeing lights.
817
00:40:26,581 --> 00:40:29,214
So a base could be anywhere
in there...
818
00:40:29,381 --> 00:40:32,814
...it's pretty secluded coming
up from that side...
819
00:40:32,914 --> 00:40:35,048
...and as we found out at certain
times of the year...
820
00:40:35,115 --> 00:40:38,482
-...it's really kinda treacherous
coming up this way. -Yes.
821
00:40:38,515 --> 00:40:40,249
I mean that's, that's the idea.
822
00:40:40,549 --> 00:40:44,216
I also have a thermal camera
that-- it's pretty cold out...
823
00:40:44,250 --> 00:40:47,283
...so anything that might be giving
off heat like a vent...
824
00:40:47,350 --> 00:40:48,716
...might show up in the thermals.
825
00:40:48,749 --> 00:40:51,016
Despite scanning around
the entire Mesa,
826
00:40:51,149 --> 00:40:53,484
Ben doesn't see the
hole or entrance...
827
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:56,017
...but if the Government had a
part to play in building...
828
00:40:56,050 --> 00:40:58,517
...a jointly operated
underground base,
829
00:40:58,551 --> 00:41:01,084
Ben suspects the entrance
is well hidden.
830
00:41:01,485 --> 00:41:03,818
There's people actually being
harassed by the military...
831
00:41:03,851 --> 00:41:04,751
...or anyone while they're up
here?
832
00:41:05,185 --> 00:41:09,118
Well just been told the story about
that a couple were up here...
833
00:41:09,352 --> 00:41:11,186
...and some military
pulled up on them...
834
00:41:11,219 --> 00:41:12,719
...they told 'em to get
off the mountain...
835
00:41:12,752 --> 00:41:13,619
...and they followed them down.
836
00:41:13,652 --> 00:41:14,453
It's almost one of those
situations...
837
00:41:14,652 --> 00:41:17,319
...where you wanna demand
their credentials.
838
00:41:17,353 --> 00:41:19,786
Under what authority are you
kicking me outta here?
839
00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:23,254
Probably the authority of that
AR-15 pointing at you.
840
00:41:25,354 --> 00:41:27,520
So I'm gonna record on thermal.
841
00:41:27,820 --> 00:41:29,921
So you can see right here...
842
00:41:29,954 --> 00:41:31,787
...the top of the mountain
is actually...
843
00:41:31,821 --> 00:41:33,288
...twenty degrees Fahrenheit.
844
00:41:33,654 --> 00:41:35,687
So I'm imagining anything that's...
845
00:41:35,921 --> 00:41:38,888
...you know ventilating
heat or air...
846
00:41:38,922 --> 00:41:41,855
...from a facility down
below is gonna show up.
847
00:41:42,155 --> 00:41:42,888
Look at this...
848
00:41:43,422 --> 00:41:47,823
...you got 21 degrees, that's the
hillside itself, Fahrenheit.
849
00:41:47,923 --> 00:41:50,789
Yellow and the lighter colors
here are gonna be hot.
850
00:41:50,823 --> 00:41:53,156
So red is gonna be the hottest.
851
00:41:53,390 --> 00:41:56,091
Look at that red area coming
off the top of the ridge.
852
00:41:56,124 --> 00:41:57,258
Wow!
853
00:41:58,024 --> 00:42:00,558
-It's to the left of
the towers. -Yes.
854
00:42:00,591 --> 00:42:02,458
It looks like it's coming
like right...
855
00:42:02,491 --> 00:42:03,857
...up off the ridge, it's hot.
856
00:42:03,891 --> 00:42:05,359
You see the top of the ridge...
857
00:42:05,392 --> 00:42:06,858
...it's like spilling out like heat.
858
00:42:06,925 --> 00:42:08,691
Yeah, like hot air blowing out.
859
00:42:08,725 --> 00:42:10,058
Yeah, exactly.
860
00:42:10,225 --> 00:42:12,292
That red area is growing
and growing...
861
00:42:12,325 --> 00:42:14,626
...as if it's coming off,
off the ridge.
862
00:42:14,792 --> 00:42:17,892
Wow! What is that?
863
00:42:19,892 --> 00:42:23,660
But why is that ridge so much
warmer than surrounding?
864
00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:25,793
Something has to be
causing that heat.
865
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,627
Is it possible that the heat
is coming from something...
866
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,028
...that is venting from
underground like a facility?
867
00:42:33,395 --> 00:42:36,628
Sorry, don't wanna break the
force of law but look at this.
868
00:42:36,694 --> 00:42:38,861
Ben has discovered some truly
compelling evidence...
869
00:42:38,894 --> 00:42:40,596
...of an underground base...
870
00:42:40,629 --> 00:42:42,829
...but as the sun goes
down he and Avery...
871
00:42:42,862 --> 00:42:44,596
...need to get off the mountain.
872
00:42:44,829 --> 00:42:46,862
People talk about it
being remote here...
873
00:42:46,895 --> 00:42:49,530
...difficult to get up to,
especially this time of year.
874
00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:53,297
But I could see if you were
to build a secret base...
875
00:42:53,630 --> 00:42:56,330
...this would be the ideal location.
876
00:42:58,864 --> 00:43:02,098
You know the Dulce Papers are
quite controversial...
877
00:43:02,298 --> 00:43:05,031
...but after talking to
a lot of witnesses...
878
00:43:05,231 --> 00:43:08,932
...who claim to have seen aircraft
coming out of the mountain...
879
00:43:09,832 --> 00:43:13,499
...there might be some
sort of facility here.
880
00:43:14,232 --> 00:43:16,433
So much of this little corner
of New Mexico...
881
00:43:16,467 --> 00:43:17,866
...remains shrouded in mystery...
882
00:43:18,267 --> 00:43:20,267
...but it's clearly
a UFO hot-spot
883
00:43:20,367 --> 00:43:23,633
...and it's secrets won't
stay buried forever.
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