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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,282 --> 00:00:05,482 It is perhaps the greatest UFO secret of the 20th century. 2 00:00:05,683 --> 00:00:07,950 What the x**x**x** is that? It's crazy. 3 00:00:08,150 --> 00:00:11,317 The reverse engineering of alien technology. 4 00:00:11,617 --> 00:00:12,917 What happens next? 5 00:00:13,084 --> 00:00:14,717 It would be back engineered. 6 00:00:14,850 --> 00:00:17,252 Did the US government have a covert program... 7 00:00:17,384 --> 00:00:21,318 ...to retrieve and study the wreckage of crashed UFOs? 8 00:00:21,351 --> 00:00:22,252 People that worked in Dugway... 9 00:00:22,618 --> 00:00:25,786 ...have seen weird stuff out there and wanna tell their story. 10 00:00:25,852 --> 00:00:29,086 Were these materials in fact extraterrestrial? 11 00:00:29,153 --> 00:00:32,787 They could easily see that that was a flying saucer wreckage. 12 00:00:33,054 --> 00:00:35,820 They knew it was outside of this world. 13 00:00:36,486 --> 00:00:38,320 And is this still going on today? 14 00:00:38,620 --> 00:00:42,155 -People know how to keep secrets. -Whoa. 15 00:00:42,188 --> 00:00:43,654 Whoa! 16 00:00:45,021 --> 00:00:47,189 I'm Ben Hansen, formal federal agent. 17 00:00:47,488 --> 00:00:50,755 My grandfather worked at a highly classified Air Force base... 18 00:00:50,855 --> 00:00:53,256 ...and convinced me we are not alone in the universe. 19 00:00:53,455 --> 00:00:57,389 Then I had my own encounter that changed my life forever. 20 00:00:57,589 --> 00:00:59,190 Welcome to UFO country. 21 00:00:59,290 --> 00:01:02,291 Now I've gained access to a top secret archive... 22 00:01:02,324 --> 00:01:03,291 ...from Project Blue Book... 23 00:01:03,524 --> 00:01:08,224 This planet has been under surveillance for centuries... 24 00:01:09,325 --> 00:01:11,225 ...containing reports of over 10,000 25 00:01:11,259 --> 00:01:14,159 UFO sightings investigated by the US government. 26 00:01:14,458 --> 00:01:16,759 We could very well be standing on the... 27 00:01:16,793 --> 00:01:19,193 ...exact place where a UFO crashed. 28 00:01:19,459 --> 00:01:22,759 My mission is to uncover the truth. 29 00:01:35,661 --> 00:01:36,461 In the past few months... 30 00:01:36,795 --> 00:01:39,395 ...there's been some earth shattering revelations... 31 00:01:39,462 --> 00:01:41,629 ...about the government's knowledge of UFOs... 32 00:01:41,829 --> 00:01:43,996 ...and I think we could be on the verge... 33 00:01:44,029 --> 00:01:46,630 ...of uncovering some very big secrets. 34 00:01:47,797 --> 00:01:50,596 In April 2020, the Pentagon confirmed... 35 00:01:50,697 --> 00:01:53,030 ...that the US military has been encountering... 36 00:01:53,064 --> 00:01:57,165 ...unidentified flying objects in our air space. 37 00:01:59,331 --> 00:02:02,665 These craft move in a manner that defies explanation... 38 00:02:02,865 --> 00:02:07,032 ...demonstrating technology that is light years beyond ours. 39 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:12,933 But according to an explosive report... 40 00:02:12,967 --> 00:02:15,466 ...recently published in the New York Times... 41 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:17,400 ...it's possible our government has a plan... 42 00:02:17,534 --> 00:02:21,934 ...to back engineer this technology from recovered alien craft. 43 00:02:24,135 --> 00:02:24,802 In the article... 44 00:02:25,269 --> 00:02:27,802 ...high ranking members of the US government admit... 45 00:02:27,835 --> 00:02:31,136 ...there was once a covert program that investigated... 46 00:02:31,170 --> 00:02:33,903 ...when possible, retrieved the crashed remains of... 47 00:02:33,936 --> 00:02:37,170 ...unidentified flying objects for study... 48 00:02:38,171 --> 00:02:40,171 ...and it's still happening today. 49 00:02:40,503 --> 00:02:43,370 Astrophysicist Eric W Davis stated... 50 00:02:43,403 --> 00:02:46,738 ...he briefed the Department of Defense in March 2020... 51 00:02:46,771 --> 00:02:50,805 ...about the recovery of, quote, "off road vehicles... 52 00:02:50,838 --> 00:02:53,173 ...not made on this Earth". 53 00:02:54,439 --> 00:02:58,039 Over the past 75 years, there have been numerous UFO crashes... 54 00:02:58,073 --> 00:03:00,506 ...where witnesses claim the government recovered the wreckage... 55 00:03:00,606 --> 00:03:02,740 ...and took it to an unknown destination. 56 00:03:03,140 --> 00:03:05,606 But two stand head and shoulders above the rest 57 00:03:05,907 --> 00:03:11,275 Roswell 1947, and Kecksburg 1965. 58 00:03:12,474 --> 00:03:14,607 If I could somehow determine where... 59 00:03:14,641 --> 00:03:16,809 ...the military is taking these UFOs... 60 00:03:17,076 --> 00:03:20,142 ...that would go a long way in corroborating the Times article. 61 00:03:20,276 --> 00:03:24,476 It could then in turn offer definitive proof of alien life. 62 00:03:24,710 --> 00:03:28,343 So I'm on my way to meet someone I think can help me. 63 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:31,944 Tom Carey is a former member of the Air Force... 64 00:03:31,978 --> 00:03:36,477 ...who has written numerous books on the Roswell crash of 1947. 65 00:03:37,044 --> 00:03:39,645 He claims the military recovered a UFO... 66 00:03:39,678 --> 00:03:42,245 ...from both Roswell and Kecksburg... 67 00:03:42,411 --> 00:03:44,045 ...then took them apart to learn... 68 00:03:44,179 --> 00:03:47,579 ...how they worked with the aim of recreating their technology. 69 00:03:47,846 --> 00:03:50,180 According to Tom, this work has been happening... 70 00:03:50,213 --> 00:03:54,047 ...at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base for nearly 80 years. 71 00:03:55,047 --> 00:03:57,147 When it comes to Kecksburg, the same with Roswell... 72 00:03:57,181 --> 00:04:01,614 ...when something like this happens, a crash retrieval... 73 00:04:01,848 --> 00:04:03,581 ...where you have alien craft going to... 74 00:04:03,614 --> 00:04:05,282 ...Wright-Patterson Air Force Base... 75 00:04:05,414 --> 00:04:07,381 ...what happens at Wright-Patterson? 76 00:04:07,481 --> 00:04:11,116 Anything like that would ultimately wind up... 77 00:04:11,149 --> 00:04:13,582 ...in the Foreign Technology Division. 78 00:04:13,615 --> 00:04:16,184 So that is the, the housing for receiving... 79 00:04:16,217 --> 00:04:19,817 ...either foreign or other worldly objects. 80 00:04:20,117 --> 00:04:21,250 Exactly. 81 00:04:21,317 --> 00:04:22,751 What happens next? 82 00:04:22,818 --> 00:04:25,018 It would be back engineered. 83 00:04:25,351 --> 00:04:28,318 Reverse engineering goes all the way back to World War II... 84 00:04:28,417 --> 00:04:31,552 ...so they were already in the back engineering business... 85 00:04:31,719 --> 00:04:36,352 ...by the time of the Roswell crash in 1947. 86 00:04:36,719 --> 00:04:38,753 So the Foreign Technology Division... 87 00:04:38,786 --> 00:04:41,686 ...their mission is to accept aircraft... 88 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,953 ...that we've captured or found... 89 00:04:43,987 --> 00:04:45,787 ...so take what is already made... 90 00:04:45,887 --> 00:04:47,321 ...figure out how it works... 91 00:04:47,354 --> 00:04:48,354 ...back engineer... 92 00:04:48,587 --> 00:04:52,655 ...and then use that technology perhaps for our own benefit... 93 00:04:52,755 --> 00:04:54,855 ...and they do this with enemy planes... 94 00:04:54,888 --> 00:04:56,555 ...as well as alien spacecraft. 95 00:04:56,722 --> 00:04:58,688 That-- that's it in a nutshell. 96 00:04:59,789 --> 00:05:03,356 What types of technology do you think have been developed? 97 00:05:03,422 --> 00:05:06,323 Oh jeez, we got transistors from Roswell, 98 00:05:06,356 --> 00:05:08,291 Kevlar, lasers... 99 00:05:08,490 --> 00:05:11,291 ...and they had this so-called memory metal... 100 00:05:11,657 --> 00:05:14,291 ...that you could wad it up in your hand... 101 00:05:14,324 --> 00:05:16,058 ...and put it over a flat surface... 102 00:05:16,125 --> 00:05:18,825 ...and it would just float out, unfurl itself... 103 00:05:18,925 --> 00:05:21,558 ...and just go back to its original shape. 104 00:05:21,691 --> 00:05:24,792 But the thing about it was you couldn't cut it... 105 00:05:25,126 --> 00:05:26,692 ...scratch it... 106 00:05:26,759 --> 00:05:30,194 ...burn it, or permanently de-- deform it in any way. 107 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,927 It was indestructible. 108 00:05:32,027 --> 00:05:33,760 Wow. That's incredible. 109 00:05:33,827 --> 00:05:37,661 We had a witness who was involved in that project... 110 00:05:37,694 --> 00:05:38,128 ...and he said... 111 00:05:38,861 --> 00:05:41,261 ..."They're trying to back engineer this memory metal,"... 112 00:05:41,627 --> 00:05:44,962 ...which began get this-in 1948. 113 00:05:45,428 --> 00:05:47,395 -Oh! -Right after the Roswell crash. 114 00:05:47,462 --> 00:05:52,896 There was nothing on memory recovery metal prior to 1948. 115 00:05:52,963 --> 00:05:55,796 Years later, after contracting work to the... 116 00:05:55,830 --> 00:05:57,629 ...metallurgical company Battelle... 117 00:05:57,796 --> 00:06:01,031 ...the government announced a scientific breakthrough. 118 00:06:01,098 --> 00:06:02,864 In 1962... 119 00:06:03,098 --> 00:06:05,298 ...they held a press conference to announce... 120 00:06:05,331 --> 00:06:09,099 ...the discovery of this new amalgam called Nitinol. 121 00:06:09,132 --> 00:06:10,765 And what does Nitinol do? 122 00:06:10,865 --> 00:06:13,765 Nitinol is-- it's like the memory metal... 123 00:06:13,798 --> 00:06:15,366 ...it's the best we could do. 124 00:06:15,466 --> 00:06:16,933 It's not as good as the original. 125 00:06:16,966 --> 00:06:20,166 It's used medically in, in heart valves. 126 00:06:20,799 --> 00:06:24,167 It's also used in the space program. 127 00:06:25,201 --> 00:06:25,900 Wow. 128 00:06:26,433 --> 00:06:29,701 What about types of aircraft do you think have been developed? 129 00:06:29,768 --> 00:06:33,601 The idea of stealth came from Nitinol. 130 00:06:34,368 --> 00:06:37,069 They covered an aircraft in this memory metal and it... 131 00:06:37,169 --> 00:06:39,569 ...it didn't show up on radar. 132 00:06:39,936 --> 00:06:42,069 The U2 was the first one... 133 00:06:42,103 --> 00:06:46,603 ...then the SR-71 Blackbird Stealth. 134 00:06:47,503 --> 00:06:48,270 During World War II... 135 00:06:48,770 --> 00:06:52,437 ...the Air Force's best craft was the heavy bomber biplane. 136 00:06:52,604 --> 00:06:53,804 Not long after... 137 00:06:53,971 --> 00:06:56,437 ...the SR-71 Blackbird Stealth... 138 00:06:56,471 --> 00:06:58,637 ...was blasting through the skies. 139 00:06:58,804 --> 00:07:00,805 And everyone else might just look at that and say, 140 00:07:00,872 --> 00:07:02,572 "Well, that's American ingenuity." 141 00:07:02,805 --> 00:07:06,539 Many believe this unprecedented leap in aerospace technology... 142 00:07:06,673 --> 00:07:09,107 ...was a direct result of the military's efforts... 143 00:07:09,173 --> 00:07:12,040 ...in reverse engineering alien technology. 144 00:07:15,141 --> 00:07:19,208 They still haven't figured out how the Roswell UFO flew. 145 00:07:19,241 --> 00:07:23,175 Back in the '50s, they tried to, to create circular craft... 146 00:07:23,408 --> 00:07:26,375 -...but it was unstable. -It was like a hovercraft, right? 147 00:07:26,408 --> 00:07:27,875 A hovercraft, yes. 148 00:07:28,641 --> 00:07:32,509 There was a lot of reports of triangular shaped craft. 149 00:07:32,609 --> 00:07:34,476 I would say, if they're seen in Nevada... 150 00:07:34,509 --> 00:07:36,777 ...that would be what they're working on now. 151 00:07:36,977 --> 00:07:38,910 But if they're seen in Sheboygan, 152 00:07:39,044 --> 00:07:41,710 Wisconsin or Bugtussle, Tennessee... 153 00:07:41,810 --> 00:07:43,878 ...it's, it's one of theirs. 154 00:07:44,012 --> 00:07:44,745 Ok. 155 00:07:45,245 --> 00:07:47,945 So it's possible that a lot of this back engineered stuff... 156 00:07:48,178 --> 00:07:52,046 ...maybe we figured out little bits of it but that they... 157 00:07:52,179 --> 00:07:55,579 ...the originators of it, are still flying around as well. 158 00:07:55,612 --> 00:07:56,879 Yes. 159 00:07:56,979 --> 00:07:57,879 Wow. 160 00:07:57,946 --> 00:07:58,847 What about back engineering... 161 00:07:59,214 --> 00:08:02,513 -...do you think that still happens at Wright-Patterson? -No. 162 00:08:02,546 --> 00:08:05,147 They're probably not going to Wright-Patterson. 163 00:08:05,180 --> 00:08:07,215 It's a known quantity, you know? 164 00:08:08,215 --> 00:08:09,015 Tom believes that... 165 00:08:09,414 --> 00:08:12,348 ...due to leaks exposing their reverse engineering efforts... 166 00:08:12,481 --> 00:08:14,548 ...the military relocated the program... 167 00:08:14,582 --> 00:08:16,249 ...away from Wright-Patterson. 168 00:08:16,715 --> 00:08:17,515 The current location of... 169 00:08:17,648 --> 00:08:20,316 ...the military's top secret reverse... 170 00:08:20,349 --> 00:08:22,583 ...engineering division is unknown... 171 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:24,183 ...but 50 years ago... 172 00:08:24,516 --> 00:08:27,183 ...it was housed within Wright-Patterson Air Force Base... 173 00:08:27,317 --> 00:08:30,550 ...and Ben knows someone who worked at the base at the time... 174 00:08:30,684 --> 00:08:33,784 ...the last surviving member of Project Blue Book... 175 00:08:33,817 --> 00:08:36,252 ...operative Jennie Zeidman. 176 00:08:38,319 --> 00:08:39,918 -Good morning. -Hey. 177 00:08:40,518 --> 00:08:42,418 -Good morning, Ben. -Nice to see you both. 178 00:08:42,451 --> 00:08:44,020 -Jennie, -Mark. 179 00:08:44,486 --> 00:08:45,353 I just met with Tom Carey, 180 00:08:45,486 --> 00:08:48,286 who told me the military back engineers alien 181 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,053 craft at Wright-Patt. 182 00:08:50,419 --> 00:08:52,154 Jennie, do you know of any research... 183 00:08:52,254 --> 00:08:55,620 ...that was being conducted on UFOs during your time there? 184 00:08:55,787 --> 00:08:57,887 Once a week or just-- so... 185 00:08:58,021 --> 00:09:02,755 ...a van would arrive at the observatory office... 186 00:09:05,522 --> 00:09:08,256 ...and he would be carrying the cases... 187 00:09:08,289 --> 00:09:10,422 ...that I was supposed to solve... 188 00:09:10,856 --> 00:09:13,857 ...and I assumed he was from Wright field... 189 00:09:13,990 --> 00:09:16,823 ...but he was kind of mysterious. 190 00:09:17,224 --> 00:09:20,124 Jennie had never seen the man before... 191 00:09:20,557 --> 00:09:24,025 ...so she asked Hynek whether he was Air Force. 192 00:09:24,258 --> 00:09:25,025 And he told me, 193 00:09:25,457 --> 00:09:28,392 "You're not working directly for the Air Force," he said, 194 00:09:28,558 --> 00:09:31,059 "you're working for a contractor." 195 00:09:31,326 --> 00:09:34,658 For Jennie, the word contractor was a red flag. 196 00:09:34,759 --> 00:09:37,826 Why was an outside organization brought in to investigate... 197 00:09:37,993 --> 00:09:40,060 ...the Kecksburg and Roswell UFOs? 198 00:09:40,193 --> 00:09:43,794 Jennie was determined to find out the contractor's name. 199 00:09:43,961 --> 00:09:46,727 Knowing that something was being kept a secret, 200 00:09:46,827 --> 00:09:50,195 I immediately wanted to solve the problem. 201 00:09:51,262 --> 00:09:52,029 A few days later... 202 00:09:52,095 --> 00:09:54,928 ...the man showed up with new files. 203 00:09:57,495 --> 00:10:00,929 And I did a double take at this license plate. 204 00:10:01,562 --> 00:10:04,863 There was a convisory directory in those days. 205 00:10:05,063 --> 00:10:06,530 You looked up the... 206 00:10:06,630 --> 00:10:10,264 ...the name and it says secretary. 207 00:10:10,397 --> 00:10:12,331 So it says, like, where he works. 208 00:10:14,332 --> 00:10:16,965 And I got out the directory. 209 00:10:17,398 --> 00:10:20,233 Vern Elsey, Battelle. 210 00:10:20,732 --> 00:10:22,233 Battelle is one of the... 211 00:10:22,366 --> 00:10:27,566 ...premier metallurgical research places on the planet. 212 00:10:28,334 --> 00:10:31,400 -Battelle is a, is a private corporation... -Right. 213 00:10:31,433 --> 00:10:33,067 -...and a government contractor. -Right. 214 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:38,201 So you think Battelle took debris and material from Roswell. 215 00:10:38,268 --> 00:10:39,734 An expert--... 216 00:10:40,268 --> 00:10:44,002 ...then figure out how this technology works... 217 00:10:44,202 --> 00:10:47,635 ...and develop it into some useful material for the military. 218 00:10:47,869 --> 00:10:51,137 The evidence indicates very strongly... 219 00:10:51,303 --> 00:10:58,304 ...that Battelle analyzed Roswell artifacts. 220 00:10:59,404 --> 00:11:01,004 If, as you're supposing... 221 00:11:01,038 --> 00:11:03,338 ...there were artifacts from Roswell... 222 00:11:03,371 --> 00:11:05,172 ...and they were sent to Battelle... 223 00:11:05,272 --> 00:11:08,305 ...what do you think the next logical steps would be? 224 00:11:08,638 --> 00:11:10,705 The back engineering... 225 00:11:10,872 --> 00:11:14,073 ...from which NASA was born, so to speak. 226 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:18,040 NASA was founded in 1958. 227 00:11:18,206 --> 00:11:21,341 Many Ufologists contend the agency was born out of... 228 00:11:21,473 --> 00:11:24,640 ...what was learned from the UFO recovered at Roswell... 229 00:11:24,707 --> 00:11:26,507 ...just nine years earlier. 230 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,142 Battelle's presence at Wright-Patterson suggests that... 231 00:11:29,275 --> 00:11:32,908 ...the reverse engineering of UFOs was happening there. 232 00:11:33,574 --> 00:11:35,609 But where is the program today? 233 00:11:36,276 --> 00:11:39,542 Is the military still back engineering UFOs today? 234 00:11:39,709 --> 00:11:41,609 I have no idea. 235 00:11:41,642 --> 00:11:43,910 No idea whatsoever. 236 00:11:44,077 --> 00:11:47,244 People know how to keep secrets. 237 00:11:50,911 --> 00:11:53,345 Ben Hansen has uncovered a top secret... 238 00:11:53,378 --> 00:11:55,211 ...division in the US military... 239 00:11:55,345 --> 00:11:57,412 ...responsible for back engineering... 240 00:11:57,445 --> 00:11:59,079 ...the crashed alien spacecrafts... 241 00:11:59,112 --> 00:12:02,046 ...recovered from Roswell and Kecksburg. 242 00:12:02,212 --> 00:12:03,212 Jennie Zeidman confirmed... 243 00:12:03,346 --> 00:12:06,513 ...it was housed at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base... 244 00:12:06,546 --> 00:12:09,446 ...but its current location is unknown. 245 00:12:09,646 --> 00:12:12,447 The leaps and bounds made in aviation based off... 246 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,680 ...possible alien tech is remarkable. 247 00:12:14,781 --> 00:12:15,514 I can't help but wonder... 248 00:12:15,914 --> 00:12:19,215 ...what else the military may have been developing. 249 00:12:19,581 --> 00:12:20,249 To find out, 250 00:12:20,782 --> 00:12:23,215 Ben has tracked down the son of a key reverse engineer... 251 00:12:23,349 --> 00:12:27,316 ...who has been carrying a dark family secret for decades. 252 00:12:28,416 --> 00:12:31,083 -Mark. -Ben Hansen, nice to see you. 253 00:12:31,150 --> 00:12:32,849 Mark Magruder's father, Mac... 254 00:12:32,883 --> 00:12:35,717 ...worked for the Air Force Special Projects Division. 255 00:12:35,850 --> 00:12:38,184 Before he died in 1997... 256 00:12:38,317 --> 00:12:41,151 ...he told his son everything he saw and did... 257 00:12:41,184 --> 00:12:44,285 ...as a back engineer working with alien craft. 258 00:12:44,385 --> 00:12:46,651 Your dad was a World War II hero. 259 00:12:46,684 --> 00:12:48,885 He's well respected. 260 00:12:49,286 --> 00:12:51,819 Mark, when did you first learn about this... 261 00:12:51,919 --> 00:12:54,585 ...other career life that your father had? 262 00:12:55,253 --> 00:12:59,720 He ended up going to his grave with so much information... 263 00:12:59,753 --> 00:13:01,853 ...and it turns out... 264 00:13:02,287 --> 00:13:05,121 ...he was involved the whole time. 265 00:13:05,487 --> 00:13:07,288 On his death bed... 266 00:13:08,155 --> 00:13:08,854 ...my dad said, 267 00:13:09,255 --> 00:13:13,822 "I have carried this terrible secret all my life. 268 00:13:14,222 --> 00:13:18,122 You have no idea what I've seen and done." 269 00:13:19,023 --> 00:13:24,257 In 1947,my dad was invited to Wright-Patterson... 270 00:13:27,258 --> 00:13:29,690 ...and they went into the hangar... 271 00:13:33,925 --> 00:13:37,925 ...and inside the hangar, there was this material. 272 00:13:40,558 --> 00:13:42,659 It was so strong but so lightweight. 273 00:13:42,726 --> 00:13:44,559 You mean a, a kind of metal? 274 00:13:44,626 --> 00:13:46,959 Yes, and they put two and two together... 275 00:13:47,093 --> 00:13:50,327 ...and they knew that it was the Roswell crash. 276 00:13:50,527 --> 00:13:52,027 Wait, wait, wait. 277 00:13:52,294 --> 00:13:53,094 Jennie Zeidman claimed... 278 00:13:53,294 --> 00:13:55,794 ...a metallurgical company named Battelle... 279 00:13:55,860 --> 00:13:58,162 ...was interested in the Roswell UFO. 280 00:13:58,195 --> 00:14:01,528 Could this be the material they were analyzing? 281 00:14:02,295 --> 00:14:05,429 There's people that would say that this didn't happen... 282 00:14:05,462 --> 00:14:08,229 ...and I've got the proof that it did. 283 00:14:11,297 --> 00:14:15,463 In the early '50s, we had a non-written shoot down policy... 284 00:14:15,763 --> 00:14:17,496 ...and we shot down a number of them. 285 00:14:17,630 --> 00:14:19,697 They shot down ours too. 286 00:14:19,764 --> 00:14:21,964 The moment we stopped that policy... 287 00:14:22,165 --> 00:14:24,831 ...we never lost another jet fighter. 288 00:14:25,899 --> 00:14:28,498 I never even really thought about that, Mark, that it was us... 289 00:14:28,532 --> 00:14:30,565 ...you know, causing these crashes... 290 00:14:30,665 --> 00:14:33,400 ...that we had possibly shot them down. 291 00:14:33,733 --> 00:14:35,966 Did he kind of allude to the fact that... 292 00:14:36,033 --> 00:14:38,833 ...that Wright-Patterson-- this is where he saw the... 293 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:40,333 ...the Roswell debris... 294 00:14:40,367 --> 00:14:41,500 ...did he allude to the fact that... 295 00:14:41,634 --> 00:14:44,801 ...that's where kind of all the crashes and things would go to? 296 00:14:44,867 --> 00:14:46,068 Yeah. 297 00:14:46,434 --> 00:14:48,202 An interesting question was... 298 00:14:48,269 --> 00:14:51,235 ...why did they always seem to be over military bases... 299 00:14:51,302 --> 00:14:52,935 ...and nuclear installations? 300 00:14:53,035 --> 00:14:55,969 And he said, "They just wanna know what we're up to." 301 00:14:56,336 --> 00:14:57,336 -Really? -Yeah. 302 00:14:57,536 --> 00:15:01,403 -Over the Dugway Proving Grounds, right? Which... -Yeah... 303 00:15:01,436 --> 00:15:03,437 ...people call Area 52. 304 00:15:03,470 --> 00:15:05,503 When they're doing their experiments and... 305 00:15:05,570 --> 00:15:07,770 ...and they're shooting things up into the sky... 306 00:15:07,904 --> 00:15:11,005 ...it's like we suddenly get these UFOs... 307 00:15:11,072 --> 00:15:12,971 ...these objects and lights that show up... 308 00:15:13,005 --> 00:15:16,005 ...and what your dad's saying is they're, like, monitoring us. 309 00:15:16,205 --> 00:15:20,672 And he said, "We consider them to be hostile." 310 00:15:20,872 --> 00:15:22,239 Really? 311 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:27,040 I have the declassified Air War College study. 312 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:28,973 Mark, this is April '48... 313 00:15:29,007 --> 00:15:31,640 ...so this was just let's see -like... 314 00:15:31,673 --> 00:15:34,574 ...what, eight months after the Roswell crash? 315 00:15:34,874 --> 00:15:35,774 Yes. 316 00:15:36,108 --> 00:15:38,741 We have witnesses who saw the Kecksburg... 317 00:15:38,774 --> 00:15:40,409 ...debris being transported... 318 00:15:40,575 --> 00:15:42,376 ...to Wright-Patterson... 319 00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:43,276 ...but with your father's... 320 00:15:43,475 --> 00:15:46,176 ...credentials and here physical proof... 321 00:15:46,209 --> 00:15:48,410 ...that your father was there... 322 00:15:48,443 --> 00:15:50,410 ...this is huge. 323 00:15:50,776 --> 00:15:54,943 It verifies that, that UFO crash material was at 324 00:15:54,976 --> 00:15:58,710 Wright-Patterson from the Roswell debris. 325 00:15:59,078 --> 00:16:01,078 Yeah, that's correct. 326 00:16:06,145 --> 00:16:08,511 Investigator Ben Hansen has uncovered... 327 00:16:08,545 --> 00:16:10,712 ...a top secret government program. 328 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:14,180 So I could see this was classified at one time. 329 00:16:14,612 --> 00:16:16,946 The documents Mark inherited from his father... 330 00:16:16,979 --> 00:16:18,914 ...are a treasure trove of information... 331 00:16:18,947 --> 00:16:21,547 ...regarding the activity at Wright-Patterson. 332 00:16:21,713 --> 00:16:23,880 Some are downright shocking. 333 00:16:25,082 --> 00:16:26,481 Wait a second, what is it? 334 00:16:26,681 --> 00:16:28,981 A lecture in room number one, 335 00:16:29,015 --> 00:16:32,916 Alien Enemy Control and Related Problems? 336 00:16:33,083 --> 00:16:35,183 They've labeled this in the agenda... 337 00:16:35,316 --> 00:16:37,949 ...oh, we're gonna talk about alien control today... 338 00:16:38,183 --> 00:16:40,683 ...and the fact that we could verify this is from a... 339 00:16:40,716 --> 00:16:43,217 ...a Freedom of Information request... 340 00:16:43,250 --> 00:16:45,117 ...directly from the-- to the DoD. 341 00:16:45,150 --> 00:16:48,385 Mark, this-- this is just in-- incredible. 342 00:16:48,984 --> 00:16:52,218 It's information that nobody really knew was out there... 343 00:16:52,285 --> 00:16:56,485 ...and there's some interesting things that are in-- revealed. 344 00:16:56,718 --> 00:16:58,119 After decades of silence, 345 00:16:58,252 --> 00:17:00,518 Mac finally told his son what he witnessed... 346 00:17:00,552 --> 00:17:03,287 ...on that haunting trip to Wright-Patterson. 347 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,619 They went in, into the hangar... 348 00:17:05,753 --> 00:17:08,853 ...and inside the hangar was all of the things... 349 00:17:08,953 --> 00:17:11,520 ...that were definitely alien... 350 00:17:11,654 --> 00:17:13,921 ...you know, not from this world. 351 00:17:14,921 --> 00:17:17,721 What materials exactly did he see? 352 00:17:17,955 --> 00:17:21,122 Well, they had really lightweight pieces of beams... 353 00:17:21,289 --> 00:17:23,988 ...that had what looked like hieroglyphics on them. 354 00:17:24,222 --> 00:17:26,856 The alien material and hieroglyphic etchings... 355 00:17:26,889 --> 00:17:29,023 ...are similar to those described by the... 356 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:31,856 ...witnesses of the Kecksburg and Roswell crashes... 357 00:17:32,157 --> 00:17:34,757 ...as well as by abductees who claim... 358 00:17:34,790 --> 00:17:37,057 ...they were taken aboard UFOs. 359 00:17:38,790 --> 00:17:41,925 And your father had no doubt what he was being shown... 360 00:17:41,991 --> 00:17:43,791 ...that everyone just took matter of fact... 361 00:17:43,825 --> 00:17:46,125 ...that this was extraterrestrial material. 362 00:17:46,292 --> 00:17:50,326 They could easily see that that was a flying saucer wreckage. 363 00:17:51,026 --> 00:17:53,826 They knew it was outside of this world. 364 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,626 Was there anything else that he saw there at the air base? 365 00:18:02,494 --> 00:18:04,828 Well, along with the wreckage... 366 00:18:05,428 --> 00:18:07,527 ...there were bodies. 367 00:18:09,895 --> 00:18:13,895 Mark's father claimed he saw several extraterrestrials. 368 00:18:14,229 --> 00:18:16,296 They were small in stature. 369 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:20,297 They had long skinny little arms... 370 00:18:20,896 --> 00:18:24,630 ...with long little fingers, not as many as we have. 371 00:18:25,431 --> 00:18:29,198 Clearly, they were not from this world. 372 00:18:30,431 --> 00:18:32,865 Aliens. So your father told you that... 373 00:18:32,998 --> 00:18:36,631 ...he saw alien bodies at Wright-Patterson? 374 00:18:36,932 --> 00:18:38,631 Yes, aliens. 375 00:18:38,798 --> 00:18:41,133 And one of them was alive. 376 00:18:42,933 --> 00:18:44,166 Wow. 377 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,599 Eight months after Roswell... 378 00:18:45,632 --> 00:18:48,301 ...they, they had a live extraterrestrial? 379 00:18:48,401 --> 00:18:50,234 Yes. 380 00:18:51,034 --> 00:18:54,135 What, what happened? I mean, is it still alive? 381 00:18:54,168 --> 00:18:55,501 The CIA... 382 00:18:55,835 --> 00:18:59,102 ...they were doing all kinds of experiments on it. 383 00:19:01,035 --> 00:19:04,569 My dad could feel the stress that he was in. 384 00:19:04,702 --> 00:19:05,836 Mark goes on to tell Ben that... 385 00:19:06,002 --> 00:19:09,503 ...the experiments the military performed on the captured alien... 386 00:19:09,570 --> 00:19:14,037 ...were so extreme they eventually killed the extraterrestrial. 387 00:19:14,404 --> 00:19:16,838 -Killed? -Yes. 388 00:19:18,105 --> 00:19:21,737 They thought that he was communicating with his home base... 389 00:19:21,804 --> 00:19:24,039 ...and we couldn't allow that to happen. 390 00:19:24,106 --> 00:19:26,738 It did bother him. You could see that. 391 00:19:26,872 --> 00:19:28,106 You know, if I saw that, 392 00:19:28,172 --> 00:19:30,306 I don't know that I would have the... 393 00:19:30,339 --> 00:19:31,873 ...composure to keep it together. 394 00:19:32,006 --> 00:19:34,240 You're only one of probably a handful... 395 00:19:34,273 --> 00:19:35,673 ...of people in this country... 396 00:19:35,706 --> 00:19:38,040 ...maybe on the-- in the planet... 397 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,841 ...that knows this. 398 00:19:40,974 --> 00:19:43,374 Do you know where the military's reverse engineering work... 399 00:19:43,408 --> 00:19:44,974 ...is done today? 400 00:19:45,007 --> 00:19:46,242 No. 401 00:19:46,741 --> 00:19:48,409 Well, thank you so much. 402 00:19:48,442 --> 00:19:50,608 Thank you for sharing that part of... 403 00:19:50,641 --> 00:19:52,541 ...your father's history with me. 404 00:19:52,875 --> 00:19:57,210 You have a Air Force decorated officer, 405 00:19:57,276 --> 00:19:58,809 World War II hero... 406 00:19:59,009 --> 00:20:02,044 ...very credible, he wouldn't lie to his kids especially... 407 00:20:02,077 --> 00:20:04,411 ...you know, a couple of years leading up to his death... 408 00:20:04,444 --> 00:20:06,311 ...and he discloses to them that he... 409 00:20:06,344 --> 00:20:07,910 ...was part of the back engineering... 410 00:20:07,944 --> 00:20:10,011 ...that happened at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. 411 00:20:10,178 --> 00:20:13,644 He handled the debris, he saw alien bodies. 412 00:20:13,778 --> 00:20:16,213 That's something you're never going to forget. 413 00:20:16,346 --> 00:20:17,879 Imagine encountering an alien and... 414 00:20:17,979 --> 00:20:19,679 ...and the tragedy of its death. 415 00:20:19,712 --> 00:20:21,645 It's the stuff of, of science fiction. 416 00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:22,912 But if this happened... 417 00:20:23,012 --> 00:20:25,913 ...it's truly sad and I'm just blown away. 418 00:20:26,047 --> 00:20:28,813 We don't know much about research conducted on... 419 00:20:28,847 --> 00:20:29,613 ...on extraterrestrial beings... 420 00:20:29,813 --> 00:20:33,081 ...but we do know about reverse engineering. 421 00:20:38,548 --> 00:20:40,982 While the program's whereabouts are currently unknown, 422 00:20:41,149 --> 00:20:44,182 Ben aims to uncover where it might reside today... 423 00:20:44,682 --> 00:20:47,883 ...and he has a lead his own family. 424 00:20:48,250 --> 00:20:51,317 So I'm in Utah. I'm gonna interview my own dad. 425 00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:54,284 My late grandfather, Merlin Hansen... 426 00:20:54,584 --> 00:20:56,650 ...had a very interesting career. 427 00:20:56,784 --> 00:20:59,418 I know he was an engineer for the Air Force... 428 00:20:59,617 --> 00:21:02,252 ...but I'm not exactly sure what his role was. 429 00:21:03,052 --> 00:21:07,385 He told my dad some things about being part of a secret group... 430 00:21:07,685 --> 00:21:10,686 ...and my grandpa was pretty tight lipped... 431 00:21:10,819 --> 00:21:14,519 ...but my dad says that there's some things he told him... 432 00:21:14,686 --> 00:21:17,254 ...right before his passing that I need to hear... 433 00:21:17,387 --> 00:21:19,620 ...so I'm hoping he can shed some light on this... 434 00:21:19,753 --> 00:21:22,121 ...and we can kind of put the puzzle together. 435 00:21:22,421 --> 00:21:25,355 Is it possible my own grandfather was wrapped up... 436 00:21:25,455 --> 00:21:28,888 ...in all of this reverse engineering and black project stuff? 437 00:21:29,355 --> 00:21:31,689 While Ben has long known of his grandfather's... 438 00:21:31,722 --> 00:21:34,223 ...involvement in secret military projects... 439 00:21:34,356 --> 00:21:37,489 ...this is the first time he and his father will talk about it. 440 00:21:37,890 --> 00:21:40,857 -Oh my gosh. -Hi. -Trouble! 441 00:21:40,890 --> 00:21:43,224 -Hey, buddy. -How are you? 442 00:21:44,057 --> 00:21:46,058 It's been a while, man. 443 00:21:46,724 --> 00:21:49,158 I just wanna make sure that I get all the details. 444 00:21:49,491 --> 00:21:52,091 I've only got bits and pieces of this story. 445 00:21:52,524 --> 00:21:54,459 So what exactly was his title? 446 00:21:54,558 --> 00:21:56,725 He was an industrial engineer. 447 00:21:56,758 --> 00:22:00,759 He was involved in logistics and communication systems and... 448 00:22:00,793 --> 00:22:02,993 ...helping them troubleshoot unusual... 449 00:22:03,026 --> 00:22:05,026 ...problems and special project work... 450 00:22:05,093 --> 00:22:07,493 ...and later, we found out, cryogenics. 451 00:22:07,694 --> 00:22:09,760 I know that when you were young... 452 00:22:09,861 --> 00:22:13,594 ...he said that he was part of a special group. 453 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,295 What was that about? 454 00:22:16,862 --> 00:22:17,595 He said, 455 00:22:17,995 --> 00:22:21,329 "Son, I've accepted an assignment with the government... 456 00:22:21,728 --> 00:22:25,929 ...and I'm not going to be accessible to the family... 457 00:22:26,396 --> 00:22:28,029 ...but there'll be one phone number... 458 00:22:28,196 --> 00:22:30,864 ...that you will have to call and leave a message... 459 00:22:31,231 --> 00:22:34,597 ...and I'll try to communicate when I can." 460 00:22:35,030 --> 00:22:36,763 What was the first time you realized... 461 00:22:36,797 --> 00:22:38,664 ...that this assignment was taking place? 462 00:22:38,698 --> 00:22:41,898 It started to unfold in '65. 463 00:22:41,965 --> 00:22:43,698 Did he tell you where he was going? 464 00:22:43,831 --> 00:22:45,999 Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. 465 00:22:47,099 --> 00:22:49,266 Ben's grandfather was an industrial... 466 00:22:49,299 --> 00:22:50,966 ...engineer and computer scientist... 467 00:22:51,166 --> 00:22:53,134 ...who was sent to Wright-Patterson to... 468 00:22:53,167 --> 00:22:55,167 ...install an early computing system. 469 00:22:55,234 --> 00:22:57,900 Is it possible he saw the reverse engineering of the 470 00:22:58,067 --> 00:23:01,701 Roswell and Kecksburg UFOs first hand? 471 00:23:02,001 --> 00:23:05,168 Could he have laid eyes on the supposed... 472 00:23:05,201 --> 00:23:06,901 ...extraterrestrial beings? 473 00:23:07,236 --> 00:23:09,835 I've got letters here that I wrote to him... 474 00:23:09,869 --> 00:23:12,469 ...and I put together a chronology and... 475 00:23:12,502 --> 00:23:15,036 ...confirmed dates that he was gone. 476 00:23:15,936 --> 00:23:17,669 Here are... 477 00:23:17,903 --> 00:23:21,403 ...letters to the Motor Lodge. 478 00:23:21,536 --> 00:23:23,204 So this is you writing him. 479 00:23:23,238 --> 00:23:26,037 Right. I-- I'd let him know how the family was... 480 00:23:26,138 --> 00:23:27,138 ...how mom's health was. 481 00:23:27,204 --> 00:23:30,105 I wasn't sure if grandpa had actually told you... 482 00:23:30,139 --> 00:23:30,372 ...you know... 483 00:23:31,405 --> 00:23:32,072 ...which per-- specific times he was going to Wright-Patterson... 484 00:23:32,538 --> 00:23:36,838 ...or somewhere else, but here we have exact dates. 485 00:23:38,806 --> 00:23:42,173 So let's look at the time line that you've put together. 486 00:23:43,572 --> 00:23:44,306 Wait a second. 487 00:23:44,573 --> 00:23:48,840 December 9th and 10th of '65, that weekend. 488 00:23:48,874 --> 00:23:51,607 -Are you sure about that? -Absolutely positive. 489 00:23:51,740 --> 00:23:54,908 You know what happened December 9th of '65? 490 00:23:55,041 --> 00:23:59,142 Kecksburg, Pennsylvania, UFO crash. 491 00:24:05,209 --> 00:24:08,477 Ben Hansen is investigating what happened to the debris of the 492 00:24:08,543 --> 00:24:12,144 Roswell and Kecksburg UFOs after they crashed. 493 00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:14,944 He is convinced that they were taken to 494 00:24:15,011 --> 00:24:18,511 Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and reverse engineered. 495 00:24:18,744 --> 00:24:22,379 Turns out Ben's very own grandfather was right there... 496 00:24:22,979 --> 00:24:26,578 ...after the Kecksburg crash of 1965. 497 00:24:28,146 --> 00:24:31,113 So grandpa gets a call the night of the crash... 498 00:24:31,147 --> 00:24:33,113 ...basically, and he's gone the next morning? 499 00:24:33,380 --> 00:24:33,946 Gone the next morning. 500 00:24:34,046 --> 00:24:35,779 They came, picked him up. 501 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,448 Was Ben's own grandfather part of... 502 00:24:38,481 --> 00:24:40,547 ...the secret crash retrieval team? 503 00:24:40,881 --> 00:24:44,515 What are the chances he gets an emergency call that night... 504 00:24:44,548 --> 00:24:45,415 ...and leaves for several weeks... 505 00:24:45,482 --> 00:24:48,315 ...if it's not related to something this big? 506 00:24:48,715 --> 00:24:51,582 It turns out many of these letters coincide... 507 00:24:51,616 --> 00:24:54,383 ...with the dates of famous UFO incidents. 508 00:24:54,582 --> 00:24:56,582 February 21st of '64. 509 00:24:56,616 --> 00:24:59,284 The Socorro, New Mexico landing. 510 00:24:59,650 --> 00:25:01,583 March of '67... 511 00:25:01,617 --> 00:25:05,017 ...the Malmstrom UFO flyover in Montana. 512 00:25:05,550 --> 00:25:07,618 March of '66... 513 00:25:07,718 --> 00:25:10,751 ...the Dexter, Michigan flight. 514 00:25:13,452 --> 00:25:15,519 Grandma was in the hospital. 515 00:25:15,652 --> 00:25:17,552 Yes. At the time, the doctors said, 516 00:25:17,585 --> 00:25:19,519 "You'd better get in touch with your dad,"... 517 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:21,454 ...so I called and left a message... 518 00:25:21,487 --> 00:25:22,987 ..."Please get in touch with me". 519 00:25:23,287 --> 00:25:27,420 So what you're telling me is when your mom, grandma... 520 00:25:27,553 --> 00:25:29,521 ...was at the point of death in... 521 00:25:29,554 --> 00:25:31,288 ...in March of '66... 522 00:25:31,355 --> 00:25:35,188 ...that he couldn't even come home from what he was doing to... 523 00:25:35,388 --> 00:25:37,456 ...to come back to his own wife. 524 00:25:37,555 --> 00:25:38,222 Yeah. 525 00:25:38,688 --> 00:25:41,356 You-- you're talking about somebody who-- on paper... 526 00:25:41,489 --> 00:25:44,023 ...grandpa is a technical engineer who... 527 00:25:44,056 --> 00:25:46,523 ...maintains the computer systems... 528 00:25:46,656 --> 00:25:49,689 ...and so what's happening in Wright-Patterson, then... 529 00:25:49,723 --> 00:25:52,790 ...is something so important he can't even come back... 530 00:25:53,024 --> 00:25:55,358 ...to take care of grandma, who's dying. 531 00:25:56,524 --> 00:25:58,191 Yeah, he came home and... 532 00:25:58,224 --> 00:26:01,791 ...and I pushed him on what was so important... 533 00:26:02,092 --> 00:26:03,359 ...and he avoided me. 534 00:26:03,392 --> 00:26:04,725 That was it. 535 00:26:05,125 --> 00:26:08,293 I knew that something else had been happening all along and... 536 00:26:08,326 --> 00:26:11,759 ...and I could never get him to talk to me about it... 537 00:26:12,659 --> 00:26:17,361 ...until the night of September 4 1996. 538 00:26:17,894 --> 00:26:21,428 We were at the Salt Lake Regional Medical Center. 539 00:26:21,628 --> 00:26:24,195 He's dying... 540 00:26:24,828 --> 00:26:26,794 ...and I'm the only one with him. 541 00:26:27,195 --> 00:26:29,329 And then out of nowhere, 542 00:26:29,695 --> 00:26:31,496 I'm holding his hand and he said, 543 00:26:31,562 --> 00:26:34,829 "Dave, we're not alone. 544 00:26:35,963 --> 00:26:37,497 We're not alone,"... 545 00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:40,863 ...and I knew what he was talking about. 546 00:26:41,063 --> 00:26:43,964 I squeezed his hand and I said, "Thanks, pop." 547 00:26:55,499 --> 00:26:56,932 Towards the end of his career, 548 00:26:56,999 --> 00:26:59,699 Merlin Hansen moved his family to Utah... 549 00:26:59,833 --> 00:27:03,367 ...where he worked at another mysterious Air Force base. 550 00:27:05,433 --> 00:27:07,534 He said, "I've gotta go do some work..." 551 00:27:07,567 --> 00:27:09,368 "...setting up a lab at Dugway." 552 00:27:09,401 --> 00:27:10,734 Dugway Proving Grounds? 553 00:27:10,834 --> 00:27:13,335 -Are you sure of that? -Absolutely sure. 554 00:27:13,635 --> 00:27:15,235 He said to me one time, 555 00:27:15,635 --> 00:27:18,369 "Don't you ever go out in the West Desert. 556 00:27:19,002 --> 00:27:20,702 There's nothing in the West Desert..." 557 00:27:20,736 --> 00:27:22,336 "...that you ever wanna play with." 558 00:27:23,069 --> 00:27:25,836 Dugway Proving Ground encompasses over 559 00:27:25,903 --> 00:27:29,504 1250 square miles in the great Salt Lake Desert. 560 00:27:29,904 --> 00:27:31,837 The facility's stated purpose is the... 561 00:27:31,870 --> 00:27:34,537 ...engineering of chemical and biological weaponry... 562 00:27:34,937 --> 00:27:37,472 ...but it's also home to the highest concentration of 563 00:27:37,505 --> 00:27:40,871 UFO sightings in the western United States. 564 00:27:41,005 --> 00:27:43,972 Countless witnesses claim that UFOs originate... 565 00:27:44,139 --> 00:27:47,406 ...from this secluded location in the West Desert. 566 00:27:47,672 --> 00:27:50,374 Wow. Thi-- this is amazing. 567 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,706 Was the Wright-Patterson reverse engineer program... 568 00:27:53,773 --> 00:27:56,507 ...relocated to Dugway Proving Ground? 569 00:27:57,340 --> 00:28:00,741 The base is visible from Ben's father's home... 570 00:28:01,574 --> 00:28:02,941 ...and in 2015... 571 00:28:02,974 --> 00:28:04,874 ...he and Ben's youngest sister saw... 572 00:28:04,908 --> 00:28:06,608 ...something come from the base... 573 00:28:06,642 --> 00:28:09,509 ...that was so technologically advanced... 574 00:28:09,808 --> 00:28:12,109 ...it did not appear of this world. 575 00:28:12,409 --> 00:28:14,410 And you can see force has got their... 576 00:28:14,443 --> 00:28:17,343 ...their beacon lit already. 577 00:28:19,743 --> 00:28:22,311 So you and Jenny... 578 00:28:22,344 --> 00:28:24,644 ...youngest sister, saw something. 579 00:28:24,677 --> 00:28:27,344 August 2015, this one was. 580 00:28:27,479 --> 00:28:28,645 We'd just had a rain storm... 581 00:28:28,711 --> 00:28:34,012 ...and all of a sudden there is this orange beam of light... 582 00:28:34,412 --> 00:28:40,846 ...that is shooting up like this for almost ten seconds. 583 00:28:40,879 --> 00:28:41,879 Because of how far away that is... 584 00:28:41,946 --> 00:28:44,980 ...it had to have been larger than two semis... 585 00:28:45,347 --> 00:28:46,381 ...and I said, "Whoa!" 586 00:28:46,613 --> 00:28:49,613 That couldn't be lightning and you couldn't see the end of it. 587 00:28:49,647 --> 00:28:51,282 So like a laser, would you say? 588 00:28:51,315 --> 00:28:52,015 Like a laser. 589 00:28:52,415 --> 00:28:56,614 But before it stopped, we noticed these blue dots... 590 00:28:57,015 --> 00:28:58,982 ...round, it looked like to us... 591 00:28:59,049 --> 00:29:01,649 ...that are dancing around the beam. 592 00:29:01,916 --> 00:29:04,149 But they had to be pretty large too. 593 00:29:04,783 --> 00:29:07,716 And then-- and all of a sudden at the very top... 594 00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:11,317 ...there is a-- it looks like a cigar. 595 00:29:12,418 --> 00:29:13,784 Like a cigar shaped... 596 00:29:13,817 --> 00:29:14,651 -Like a sh-- -...object? Craft? 597 00:29:14,817 --> 00:29:18,617 Object, clearly, and then when the beam died... 598 00:29:18,918 --> 00:29:22,952 ...they all went up into the cigar shaped... 599 00:29:22,985 --> 00:29:26,052 ...object and then disappeared. 600 00:29:26,452 --> 00:29:27,953 Was this beam alien... 601 00:29:28,086 --> 00:29:31,387 ...man made or a combination of both? 602 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,354 I have to say, there is something extremely strange... 603 00:29:35,787 --> 00:29:37,720 ...going on over the West Desert... 604 00:29:38,087 --> 00:29:40,321 ...and I can't help but think that maybe... 605 00:29:40,354 --> 00:29:41,988 ...grandpa was part of all this. 606 00:29:42,489 --> 00:29:44,988 I feel the same way, son. 607 00:29:47,255 --> 00:29:49,556 For decades, the Dugway Proving Grounds... 608 00:29:49,589 --> 00:29:51,923 ...has been a hot spot of activity for 609 00:29:51,956 --> 00:29:54,689 UFO sightings and conspiracy theories. 610 00:29:54,989 --> 00:29:55,989 In the past couple of months... 611 00:29:56,256 --> 00:29:59,157 ...there's been a lot of video and photo coming out of there... 612 00:29:59,491 --> 00:30:02,557 ...of what looks like exotic spacecraft. 613 00:30:02,857 --> 00:30:03,790 But the question is... 614 00:30:04,057 --> 00:30:08,091 ...are these UFOs evidence of extraterrestrials maybe... 615 00:30:08,192 --> 00:30:10,458 ...you know, monitoring the military base? 616 00:30:10,591 --> 00:30:12,293 Are they a direct threat to us? 617 00:30:12,659 --> 00:30:15,259 Or is there really something else going on? 618 00:30:19,427 --> 00:30:21,260 To uncover the secrets behind 619 00:30:21,294 --> 00:30:22,660 Dugway Proving Ground, 620 00:30:23,027 --> 00:30:25,194 Ben is headed to meet an investigator... 621 00:30:25,227 --> 00:30:27,928 ...who has spent years compiling video evidence... 622 00:30:28,094 --> 00:30:31,128 ...and witness testimony of this base. 623 00:30:34,095 --> 00:30:36,329 I'm on my way to meet Dave Rosenfeld. 624 00:30:36,396 --> 00:30:37,562 Dave and I go way back. 625 00:30:37,662 --> 00:30:39,628 I know him to be a highly dedicated... 626 00:30:39,662 --> 00:30:41,029 ...and knowledgeable ufologist... 627 00:30:41,362 --> 00:30:45,430 ...and he's recently seen some strange activity around Dugway... 628 00:30:45,497 --> 00:30:47,796 ...that I can't wait to hear about. 629 00:30:59,565 --> 00:31:01,532 -Dave? -Ben, how you doing? 630 00:31:01,598 --> 00:31:03,032 Good. Good to see you again. 631 00:31:03,065 --> 00:31:04,366 Nice seeing you. 632 00:31:04,933 --> 00:31:08,300 Kind of give me an overview of what's happening at Dugway. 633 00:31:08,866 --> 00:31:10,999 I started getting a lot of... 634 00:31:11,166 --> 00:31:13,767 ...correspondence from military contractors... 635 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,633 ...and people that worked at Dugway... 636 00:31:15,667 --> 00:31:17,967 ...that have seen weird stuff out there and... 637 00:31:18,034 --> 00:31:19,701 ...and wanna tell their story. 638 00:31:19,935 --> 00:31:21,868 You get enough of these people coming forward... 639 00:31:21,901 --> 00:31:23,734 ...you start connecting some dots. 640 00:31:26,135 --> 00:31:30,102 There's this rumor that a lot of that testing of... 641 00:31:30,169 --> 00:31:33,970 ...black project stuff transitioned to the new... 642 00:31:34,204 --> 00:31:36,703 ...what we call Area 52. 643 00:31:37,437 --> 00:31:39,736 When Area 51 became public... 644 00:31:39,870 --> 00:31:42,904 ...they moved a lot of that ET space type stuff, 645 00:31:42,938 --> 00:31:46,371 I think, to Dugway because it was more private... 646 00:31:46,405 --> 00:31:47,104 ...more area... 647 00:31:47,571 --> 00:31:50,705 ...and were actually back engineering the technology. 648 00:31:51,005 --> 00:31:53,039 Well, we were on this bit of rover track one night... 649 00:31:53,072 --> 00:31:55,772 ...and we've seen a triangular craft... 650 00:31:56,006 --> 00:32:00,706 ...coming from the south part toward us... 651 00:32:00,873 --> 00:32:02,606 ...along the mountain range here. 652 00:32:02,806 --> 00:32:04,541 It was a triangle, it was fairly big... 653 00:32:04,674 --> 00:32:06,308 ...black in color... 654 00:32:06,341 --> 00:32:08,007 ...really low to the ground... 655 00:32:08,141 --> 00:32:10,274 ...and it took off so quickly that we... 656 00:32:10,374 --> 00:32:11,875 ...we didn't have any time to... 657 00:32:11,908 --> 00:32:13,708 ...to get pictures or a video of it. 658 00:32:14,008 --> 00:32:17,175 But we all witnessed it and it was gone. 659 00:32:18,075 --> 00:32:20,576 And what about speed or maneuvering? 660 00:32:20,676 --> 00:32:22,109 Totally unconventional. 661 00:32:22,243 --> 00:32:26,044 It was almost hovering then it, took off. 662 00:32:27,277 --> 00:32:28,277 At one point, 663 00:32:28,511 --> 00:32:31,944 I did get a visit from some very intimidating looking people... 664 00:32:31,977 --> 00:32:35,844 ...and they had told me a post that I made was illegal... 665 00:32:35,978 --> 00:32:39,678 ...and they wanted it removed from the website immediately... 666 00:32:40,278 --> 00:32:42,546 ...because you could be charged with treason... 667 00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:47,413 ...and he was asking me actually who'd given me information... 668 00:32:47,879 --> 00:32:50,746 ...and I says, "I can't-- I'm not gonna tell you that." 669 00:32:51,347 --> 00:32:55,681 So I had actually got contacted by two people... 670 00:32:55,847 --> 00:32:57,647 ...that worked at Dugway about a week later... 671 00:32:57,781 --> 00:32:59,581 ...saying there's a huge investigation... 672 00:32:59,614 --> 00:33:00,948 ...going on to try to figure out... 673 00:33:00,981 --> 00:33:02,481 ...who gave you that information... 674 00:33:02,681 --> 00:33:04,549 ...so I've had a lot of people come forward that... 675 00:33:04,582 --> 00:33:08,815 ...have witnessed the triangular UFOs... 676 00:33:08,848 --> 00:33:12,150 ...that do impossible type of maneuvers... 677 00:33:12,283 --> 00:33:14,583 ...from almost a dead stop to... 678 00:33:14,816 --> 00:33:16,649 ...you know, Mach 3 or something. 679 00:33:16,783 --> 00:33:18,817 I mean, it was, it was fast. 680 00:33:19,917 --> 00:33:22,117 Witnesses across the country have been reporting... 681 00:33:22,151 --> 00:33:25,485 ...black triangle sightings since the 1980s. 682 00:33:25,585 --> 00:33:29,152 They're described as large silent objects moving slowly... 683 00:33:29,185 --> 00:33:32,585 ...at low altitudes before blasting out of sight. 684 00:33:32,651 --> 00:33:34,686 Could these triangles be aircraft... 685 00:33:34,719 --> 00:33:36,686 ...reverse engineered from UFOs... 686 00:33:36,786 --> 00:33:39,386 ...like the one recovered at Kecksburg? 687 00:33:39,686 --> 00:33:43,387 Do we have things that defy gravity... 688 00:33:43,554 --> 00:33:45,120 ...that can turn on a dime... 689 00:33:45,187 --> 00:33:46,587 ...that are silent, that... 690 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,388 ...that people describe as, you know, UFOs? 691 00:33:50,988 --> 00:33:52,654 I do believe we have this technology... 692 00:33:52,688 --> 00:33:54,888 ...and I do believe they're testing it. 693 00:33:55,121 --> 00:33:55,789 Oh wow. 694 00:33:56,323 --> 00:33:59,689 But I think it's probably back engineered alien technology. 695 00:34:00,289 --> 00:34:01,922 Are you serious? 696 00:34:07,157 --> 00:34:09,823 Investigator Ben Hansen is on the verge of... 697 00:34:09,923 --> 00:34:13,258 ...uncovering the government's reverse engineering of UFOs. 698 00:34:14,458 --> 00:34:17,858 His grandfather's records suggests the program was moved... 699 00:34:17,992 --> 00:34:20,025 ...from Wright-Patterson Air Force Base... 700 00:34:20,059 --> 00:34:21,658 ...to Dugway Proving Ground. 701 00:34:22,658 --> 00:34:24,658 Now, he's meeting Dave Rosenfeld... 702 00:34:24,825 --> 00:34:27,293 ...who has been documenting strange activity... 703 00:34:27,327 --> 00:34:29,060 ...around the base for years. 704 00:34:30,460 --> 00:34:32,126 Dave was able to capture evidence that... 705 00:34:32,193 --> 00:34:36,194 ...suggests strange things are afoot at Dugway. 706 00:34:37,394 --> 00:34:40,128 Do you have things that you have seen... 707 00:34:40,295 --> 00:34:42,728 ...that you probably think are extraterrestrial? 708 00:34:42,928 --> 00:34:45,062 Yes, I do have some video I'd like to show you. 709 00:34:45,095 --> 00:34:46,395 I would love to see it. 710 00:34:47,229 --> 00:34:51,163 Some craft or some lights here that we witnessed. 711 00:34:52,063 --> 00:34:53,330 It's up off the ground. 712 00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:54,230 There's no noise. 713 00:34:54,363 --> 00:34:57,763 They're moving in different formations. 714 00:34:58,797 --> 00:35:00,564 They make a line. 715 00:35:00,863 --> 00:35:02,898 -That's incredible. I can see those... -You see these--... 716 00:35:02,965 --> 00:35:07,298 ...the light shifting and moving not like a flare. 717 00:35:07,332 --> 00:35:08,031 It's not, like, appearing... 718 00:35:08,298 --> 00:35:10,765 ...it's actually moving and changing position. 719 00:35:10,865 --> 00:35:12,799 Yeah, there's multiple lights here... 720 00:35:12,832 --> 00:35:15,533 ...and then you watch it kind of make a line... 721 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:17,666 ...and then kind of turn. 722 00:35:17,967 --> 00:35:19,367 How odd. 723 00:35:19,666 --> 00:35:22,500 But as strange as Dave's videos are... 724 00:35:22,633 --> 00:35:24,934 ...his most compelling piece of evidence may be... 725 00:35:24,968 --> 00:35:28,767 ...some photographs he took while surveilling the base. 726 00:35:30,134 --> 00:35:31,767 Back in May of '15, 727 00:35:31,934 --> 00:35:33,802 I was with a girlfriend... 728 00:35:33,902 --> 00:35:36,135 ...and we were at an area we call UFO Campus... 729 00:35:36,169 --> 00:35:38,302 ...it's on the south end of the range. 730 00:35:38,536 --> 00:35:42,570 We were at this location and then... 731 00:35:43,603 --> 00:35:46,971 ...a beam of light shot out. 732 00:35:47,737 --> 00:35:51,104 It was strange because when we witnessed this... 733 00:35:51,238 --> 00:35:55,172 ...we could almost smell, like, static electricity. 734 00:35:55,205 --> 00:35:57,305 Uh-huh. 735 00:35:58,472 --> 00:36:00,771 Well, you're pretty far away from it too, aren't you? 736 00:36:00,805 --> 00:36:03,240 Yes, we were miles away from it. 737 00:36:03,406 --> 00:36:06,139 So here's the first time it fired. 738 00:36:06,839 --> 00:36:09,441 And then the second time it fired... 739 00:36:09,474 --> 00:36:12,640 ...these blue lights came down... 740 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,074 ...and, like, surrounded this beam... 741 00:36:16,107 --> 00:36:18,275 ...almost like they were watching. 742 00:36:19,608 --> 00:36:21,041 What do you think it is, though? 743 00:36:21,075 --> 00:36:23,141 Do you think this laser thing is ours? 744 00:36:23,175 --> 00:36:26,476 I think this is some kind of offensive weapon. 745 00:36:27,276 --> 00:36:29,942 This is going through the cloud and into space... 746 00:36:30,109 --> 00:36:33,676 ...and I think that's what got the attention of these visitors... 747 00:36:33,977 --> 00:36:36,910 ...and they're coming in and watching our weaponry. 748 00:36:37,876 --> 00:36:40,111 Wow, that's, that's pretty amazing. 749 00:36:40,278 --> 00:36:43,445 Could this incredible light be a weapon of mass destruction... 750 00:36:43,511 --> 00:36:46,411 ...back engineered from alien technology? 751 00:36:46,579 --> 00:36:49,346 And, if so, what do they intend to do with it? 752 00:36:49,379 --> 00:36:51,778 -So where was this? -Where were you when you were filming it? 753 00:36:51,812 --> 00:36:54,080 This is on the south end of the range. 754 00:36:54,113 --> 00:36:56,180 I can show you the area. 755 00:36:56,313 --> 00:36:56,980 Awesome. 756 00:36:57,247 --> 00:37:00,013 -Can we go now? -Sure. - All right. -Yeah. 757 00:37:00,046 --> 00:37:01,280 Let's do it. 758 00:37:01,481 --> 00:37:03,581 What Dave witnessed is unlike any... 759 00:37:03,614 --> 00:37:05,680 ...technology known to the public... 760 00:37:05,947 --> 00:37:06,747 ...and could be proof that... 761 00:37:06,847 --> 00:37:09,615 ...the military's reverse engineering... 762 00:37:09,648 --> 00:37:11,848 ...program has moved to Dugway. 763 00:37:13,249 --> 00:37:15,582 Dave agrees to take Ben to the location... 764 00:37:15,615 --> 00:37:16,882 ...he filmed the light from... 765 00:37:17,049 --> 00:37:19,782 ...and hopes they can find more evidence. 766 00:37:20,049 --> 00:37:23,016 We've now turned off on the exit towards Dugway... 767 00:37:23,149 --> 00:37:26,251 ...and there is a tension, there's a level of anxiety... 768 00:37:26,284 --> 00:37:29,850 ...that you can literally feel as you're coming down this road. 769 00:37:30,417 --> 00:37:32,151 If any facility was capable of... 770 00:37:32,185 --> 00:37:34,585 ...reverse engineering alien spacecraft... 771 00:37:34,618 --> 00:37:36,718 ...it's Dugway Proving Ground. 772 00:37:36,751 --> 00:37:38,252 During World War II... 773 00:37:38,418 --> 00:37:42,052 ...this mysterious base conducted secret chemical weapons tests... 774 00:37:42,253 --> 00:37:45,319 ...and developed experimental aircraft. 775 00:37:45,652 --> 00:37:47,753 It does remind me a lot of Area 51... 776 00:37:47,820 --> 00:37:50,354 ...because you get too close to Area 51... 777 00:37:50,387 --> 00:37:52,320 ...and you've violated the boundary... 778 00:37:52,354 --> 00:37:55,488 ...they'll turn you over to the Sheriff to be arrested. 779 00:37:55,521 --> 00:37:59,455 So a little apprehension we don't wanna draw attention... 780 00:37:59,654 --> 00:38:02,322 ...we just wanna come by and see the lookout. 781 00:38:06,888 --> 00:38:10,756 Dave has led Ben 50 miles southwest of Tooele, Utah. 782 00:38:10,990 --> 00:38:13,789 They are now on the south border of Dugway Proving Ground... 783 00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:16,258 ...and can legally be shot on sight... 784 00:38:16,291 --> 00:38:18,091 ...if they cross onto the base. 785 00:38:18,358 --> 00:38:20,258 This is pretty incredible. Isn't it? 786 00:38:20,358 --> 00:38:21,157 Yeah. 787 00:38:21,558 --> 00:38:24,758 This is the exact location where we've seen the beam test. 788 00:38:29,192 --> 00:38:31,526 Ok, so it happened directly over that. 789 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,892 Yeah. 790 00:38:33,493 --> 00:38:35,460 Yeah, ok, right where that peak is... 791 00:38:35,493 --> 00:38:37,626 ...it's directly over it. 792 00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:39,893 Same here. 793 00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:43,960 And the distance you're seeing it... 794 00:38:43,994 --> 00:38:48,495 ...the diameter of that beam has got to be huge. 795 00:38:49,262 --> 00:38:52,462 I mean, this is incredible by itself, whatever it is... 796 00:38:52,595 --> 00:38:55,129 ...but yet we have these visitors. 797 00:38:55,263 --> 00:38:56,962 Coming to watch this test. 798 00:38:57,096 --> 00:38:58,596 Yeah. 799 00:38:59,129 --> 00:39:02,830 And as soon as the test was over, they flew up into space. 800 00:39:03,264 --> 00:39:05,930 This is not the only video captured here. 801 00:39:06,530 --> 00:39:09,031 Dave has regularly captured evidence... 802 00:39:09,064 --> 00:39:11,365 ...of UFOs from this location. 803 00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:19,299 Ben brought his equipment... 804 00:39:19,366 --> 00:39:21,266 ...hoping for a sighting of his own. 805 00:39:21,765 --> 00:39:24,000 What better place than Dugway to come to a... 806 00:39:24,033 --> 00:39:26,166 ...a sky watch with night vision equipment? 807 00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:30,300 Being here is just really cool, taking in the energy here. 808 00:39:30,333 --> 00:39:30,900 You never know... 809 00:39:31,401 --> 00:39:33,501 ...might get lucky, see something I can't explain. 810 00:39:34,101 --> 00:39:37,835 I've brought with me the top of the line military technology... 811 00:39:37,901 --> 00:39:39,735 ...in night vision and thermal equipment. 812 00:39:39,768 --> 00:39:41,735 You know, when I go do these sky watches, 813 00:39:41,768 --> 00:39:43,335 I'm looking for certain things. 814 00:39:43,369 --> 00:39:44,868 We're looking for objects in the... 815 00:39:44,901 --> 00:39:45,936 ...sky that are non-conventional... 816 00:39:46,169 --> 00:39:50,303 ...and what I mean is does it act and behave like an aircraft... 817 00:39:50,336 --> 00:39:53,404 ...a satellite? Does it move erratically? 818 00:39:54,404 --> 00:39:57,337 We might have a satellite. I'm guessing that's what it is. 819 00:39:57,371 --> 00:39:59,070 It's in a straight line right now. 820 00:39:59,104 --> 00:40:01,272 Does it hover? Does it make a sound? 821 00:40:01,305 --> 00:40:03,572 Is it in an airspace that it shouldn't be? 822 00:40:03,638 --> 00:40:04,871 Is it too low? 823 00:40:05,005 --> 00:40:06,738 And I like to kind of at that point... 824 00:40:06,771 --> 00:40:07,839 ...bring out the different cameras... 825 00:40:07,972 --> 00:40:10,506 ...because you never know which one is gonna pick up on... 826 00:40:10,573 --> 00:40:13,306 ...that wavelength of light that's gonna record it best. 827 00:40:13,705 --> 00:40:15,640 What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna switch... 828 00:40:15,673 --> 00:40:17,107 ...over to color night vision. 829 00:40:17,274 --> 00:40:17,973 Here we go. 830 00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:21,107 This camera will be able to see in loads of different colors. 831 00:40:29,408 --> 00:40:32,142 Ok, we got something coming over the mountain right here. 832 00:40:32,409 --> 00:40:34,576 Ok, it's a plane. 833 00:40:34,609 --> 00:40:35,376 Just kind of looks like a halo... 834 00:40:35,609 --> 00:40:37,943 ...but you see there's flashing lights with it. 835 00:40:38,143 --> 00:40:40,976 When I see something that I can't explain... 836 00:40:41,243 --> 00:40:43,676 ...there's a pretty good chance that it's not conventional... 837 00:40:43,709 --> 00:40:44,610 ...because I've seen all the other stuff. 838 00:40:44,709 --> 00:40:47,744 I'm gonna kick this over to black and white. 839 00:40:54,245 --> 00:40:57,112 We've got something heading directly for us. 840 00:40:57,145 --> 00:40:58,545 Whoa. 841 00:40:58,711 --> 00:41:00,213 Whoa! 842 00:41:00,346 --> 00:41:04,446 There's, like, four lights together in, in some formation. 843 00:41:06,413 --> 00:41:07,514 It's completely gone. 844 00:41:07,547 --> 00:41:08,747 Oh, that was weird. 845 00:41:08,813 --> 00:41:09,680 That was really weird. 846 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,147 So as I'm panning across the, the mountain top, 847 00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:14,781 I see, like, four points of light... 848 00:41:14,814 --> 00:41:15,615 ...and they're in a formation... 849 00:41:15,881 --> 00:41:18,382 ...and they're cruising across the mountain ridge. 850 00:41:20,115 --> 00:41:23,715 It caught me by surprise and I legitimately was excited... 851 00:41:23,782 --> 00:41:26,383 ...until I tried moving the camera again... 852 00:41:26,416 --> 00:41:28,349 ...and saw that it did it again. 853 00:41:28,516 --> 00:41:29,916 Now I'm disappointed because it... 854 00:41:29,950 --> 00:41:32,284 ...it was a lens flare of the camera. 855 00:41:35,017 --> 00:41:36,916 But that's why we do this, you know? 856 00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:38,618 We need to make sure that what we're... 857 00:41:38,651 --> 00:41:40,285 ...seeing is truly unexplained. 858 00:41:43,318 --> 00:41:44,151 Determined as ever, 859 00:41:44,251 --> 00:41:46,852 Ben spends the rest of the night searching... 860 00:41:46,885 --> 00:41:48,652 ...the skies above Dugway. 861 00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:53,686 That was weird. 862 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,420 But despite a few close calls... 863 00:41:57,553 --> 00:41:59,454 Oh, I hear something behind me. 864 00:42:00,954 --> 00:42:03,887 Right over the top of the mountain. 865 00:42:04,421 --> 00:42:06,121 I just had it, where'd it go... 866 00:42:06,154 --> 00:42:09,155 ...the Dugway airspace is quiet tonight. 867 00:42:09,289 --> 00:42:11,322 Gets really quiet around here. 868 00:42:12,188 --> 00:42:15,656 As the sun rises, Ben decides to end his search. 869 00:42:15,956 --> 00:42:18,490 Now, we may not have seen anything unexplained tonight... 870 00:42:18,523 --> 00:42:21,223 ...but I do feel that we uncovered a lot of compelling evidence... 871 00:42:21,290 --> 00:42:23,557 ...over the course of this investigation. 872 00:42:23,823 --> 00:42:26,591 I find it quite likely the government has... 873 00:42:26,657 --> 00:42:28,690 ...extraterrestrial spacecraft in their possession. 874 00:42:29,024 --> 00:42:33,458 The UFO crafts' material was at Wright-Patterson. 875 00:42:33,492 --> 00:42:34,292 That's correct. 876 00:42:34,392 --> 00:42:36,825 We have recorded testimony that places... 877 00:42:36,892 --> 00:42:40,393 ...the Kecksburg acorn at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. 878 00:42:43,959 --> 00:42:46,826 We have witnesses who were involved in the reverse... 879 00:42:46,860 --> 00:42:48,427 ...engineering of memory metal. 880 00:42:48,627 --> 00:42:51,193 They covered an aircraft in this memory metal... 881 00:42:51,227 --> 00:42:53,694 ...and it didn't show up at all on radar. 882 00:42:53,727 --> 00:42:55,595 We have a World War II hero... 883 00:42:55,628 --> 00:42:57,061 ...who, on his death bed... 884 00:42:57,094 --> 00:42:59,129 ...told his son he saw not only the... 885 00:42:59,162 --> 00:43:01,162 ...debris from the Roswell crash... 886 00:43:01,296 --> 00:43:03,462 ...but also a live alien. 887 00:43:04,129 --> 00:43:06,729 They were doing all kinds of experiments on him... 888 00:43:06,796 --> 00:43:07,863 ...and then killed it. 889 00:43:08,096 --> 00:43:11,963 And we have photo evidence of what looks like an alien weapon... 890 00:43:12,330 --> 00:43:15,431 ...being tested at a US military facility. 891 00:43:17,864 --> 00:43:18,930 They pass it off as 892 00:43:18,964 --> 00:43:20,097 American ingenuity... 893 00:43:20,331 --> 00:43:22,465 ...but there's a world of secrets our... 894 00:43:22,499 --> 00:43:24,165 ...government is keeping from us. 895 00:43:24,632 --> 00:43:26,465 When are they finally going to tell us 896 00:43:26,499 --> 00:43:28,198 ...the truth of what's in the skies? 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