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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,359 this is a ufo 2 00:00:05,359 --> 00:00:08,160 an unidentified flying object 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,400 it was photographed at santa catalina 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,840 island in april of 1966. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,440 look at it again 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,640 closely 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,640 hundreds even thousands of witnesses 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,480 have seen similar things appear in the 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,439 sky 10 00:00:21,439 --> 00:00:23,439 persons living miles from others have 11 00:00:23,439 --> 00:00:25,599 testified independently 12 00:00:25,599 --> 00:00:28,240 that ufos have appeared in a specific 13 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,439 place at a specific time I looked up in 14 00:00:31,439 --> 00:00:33,200 the sky and 15 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,520 objects standing real still then it was 16 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,719 going too slow 17 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:39,440 airplane or helicopter it was a large 18 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,120 opaque line it had a dull glow to it 19 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,440 it was larger than a car flying a 20 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,280 treetop level from 21 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,920 our height here 22 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,399 the official position is firm 23 00:00:52,399 --> 00:00:55,600 the evidence is erroneous illusory but 24 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,800 if in one thousand reported sightings 25 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,440 one tenth of one percent could be fact 26 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,039 then that is one 27 00:01:03,039 --> 00:01:07,640 real existing ufo 28 00:01:29,759 --> 00:01:31,759 good morning colonel moore morning major 29 00:01:31,759 --> 00:01:33,119 dunning said he'd meet you at the flight 30 00:01:33,119 --> 00:01:35,560 line with 412. 31 00:01:38,479 --> 00:01:42,000 early morning a summer day 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,920 before it was over colonel pete moore 33 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,479 and five men of the 458th radar test 34 00:01:46,479 --> 00:01:50,240 unit knew they would never forget it 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,799 it all began with a basically routine 36 00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:54,399 but crucial mission involving the 37 00:01:54,399 --> 00:01:56,320 alignment of sophisticated airborne 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,719 radar systems essential to the ultimate 39 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:01,439 defense of the nation 40 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:03,360 the equipment had a recent history of 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,759 unreliability 42 00:02:05,759 --> 00:02:08,560 this reflected on pete moore and on his 43 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,318 men 44 00:02:10,318 --> 00:02:11,790 he was concerned 45 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:17,120 okay 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,720 uh you'll hook up with uh blanco vista 47 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,200 marine air at 1200 and once they got you 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,000 you'll be designated shadow delta one 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,680 are there any questions 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,520 oh sir we've got it anything that you'd 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,200 like to add colonel I know I'll be in 52 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,560 touch with colonel barnes at blanco's 53 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,519 victory 54 00:02:33,519 --> 00:02:35,120 i'll see you men back here at 1400 for 55 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,120 deep breathing 1400 there goes lunch 56 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,620 guys 57 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,560 all right pre-flight inspection 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,840 circuit breakers 59 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,920 and what about the radar fix they 60 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:55,519 pinpointed it last night we won't have 61 00:02:55,519 --> 00:02:57,840 another abort oh I hope not 62 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,640 and what about the general I covered us 63 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:01,920 oh you did huh 64 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:03,280 well how come he chewed me up before 65 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,560 breakfast 66 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,560 well this time we got the first team up 67 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,239 hey how about some lunch I'm meeting a 68 00:03:08,239 --> 00:03:09,519 wife 69 00:03:09,519 --> 00:03:12,879 say hello to nina for me will you 70 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:18,800 this mission is gonna put my heart 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,159 through a ringer well you know if we 72 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:21,519 love this man it's gonna be more than 73 00:03:21,519 --> 00:03:22,640 your heart that's gonna be put through a 74 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:23,599 ring 75 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:27,000 don't I know 76 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:38,400 air force 412 this is whitney air 77 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,480 traffic control you're cleared to taxi 78 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,360 to runway 6 right gypsy 92 is holding 79 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,640 short 80 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,239 roger atc have it in view 81 00:03:48,239 --> 00:03:50,080 forward to your cleared his file cleared 82 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,159 to blanco vista maintain flight level 83 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:55,200 three one zero heading zero nine seven 84 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,519 departure frequency will be one two four 85 00:03:57,519 --> 00:03:58,799 point six 86 00:03:58,799 --> 00:04:00,799 squat code three one three eight before 87 00:04:00,799 --> 00:04:02,959 departure 88 00:04:02,959 --> 00:04:05,920 you're clear for takeoff roger whitney 89 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,000 squawk three one three eight we are 90 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,760 cleared to take off 91 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,159 monitor the throttle 92 00:04:20,798 --> 00:04:22,400 v1 93 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,400 rotate 94 00:04:32,479 --> 00:04:35,520 as 412 climbed gracefully to altitude 95 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,919 and the beginning of the exercise 96 00:04:37,919 --> 00:04:40,080 pete moore arrived at the 458th 97 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,440 headquarters 98 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,600 his office 99 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,360 morning colonel that was wing again 100 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,560 they're really starting to press on our 101 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,960 rafter updates oh I'll have to wait 102 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,120 well get me uh colonel barnes at blanco 103 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,240 vista marina would you yeah 104 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,720 colonel barnes 105 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,560 hey freeman 106 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,039 how's it going we're fine we're right on 107 00:05:11,039 --> 00:05:12,240 schedule 108 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,360 hey when are we going to play a little 109 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,360 golf no I'll get down in one of these 110 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,160 days 111 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,000 uh hey don't let your guy slip up this 112 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,919 time you're here or you sound a little 113 00:05:19,919 --> 00:05:22,320 concerned well 114 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,880 general enright is on my tail this time 115 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,919 we won't let you down pete okay thanks 116 00:05:27,919 --> 00:05:29,520 oh I'll leave word where you can reach 117 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:30,639 me 118 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:33,120 uh keep me posted though will you 119 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,120 right 120 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,840 with the atc this is four one two verify 121 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:43,520 we're climbing out 122 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,680 roger four one two 123 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,759 amend your clearance climb and maintain 124 00:05:47,759 --> 00:05:51,120 flight level three seven 125 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,280 engage zero 126 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,720 well 12 more days of this and we got 89 127 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,240 days in england 128 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,960 hey ferguson you ever been overseas 129 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,960 just vietnam sir 130 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,479 ferguson 131 00:06:04,479 --> 00:06:07,600 it's not at all like england 132 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,759 what's that hydraulic pressure 133 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:12,400 1500 psi 134 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,400 block of vista control this is air force 135 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,880 4-1-2 commencing operation shadow 136 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,240 delta-1 137 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,400 we are maintaining flight level three 138 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,800 seven zero 139 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,120 shadow delta one this is blanco vista 140 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,880 marine radar control 141 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,400 we have you passing through our outboard 142 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,080 markers 143 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,639 flight 412 easily assumed its new 144 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:36,080 designation shadow delta one 145 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,639 as the routine exercise began shadow 146 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:41,520 delta one became something else 147 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,240 the hunted 148 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:49,080 what's that 149 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,360 hey smitty 150 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,790 check with norad on these 151 00:06:55,919 --> 00:06:59,360 shadow delta one standby 152 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,400 shadow delta one activate all radar 153 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,520 units repeat activate all radar units on 154 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,800 overhead scan 155 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,280 ferguson you got that yeah we got it 156 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:11,440 yeah I got the lights 157 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,960 supposed to be a ground response test 158 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,440 what's going on 159 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,240 shadow delta one check your upper left 160 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,680 quadrant 161 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,080 roger copy 162 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,199 have a look 163 00:07:25,199 --> 00:07:27,440 this is blanco vista marine air all 164 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,319 aircraft is vicinity squad transponders 165 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:32,639 repeat squawk your codes 166 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:35,520 roger copy 167 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:38,240 my cliff 168 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,420 put it on fast scan 169 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:48,800 this is shadow delta one we see three 170 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,199 blips at eleven o'clock shadow double 171 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:52,879 one we copied 172 00:07:52,879 --> 00:07:55,199 unity two confirming 173 00:07:55,199 --> 00:07:57,520 to the experienced men at blanco vista 174 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,360 marine radar the blips were real 175 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,160 therefore what they represented was real 176 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,360 lieutenant take a look at this 177 00:08:07,919 --> 00:08:09,440 we just checked with north american air 178 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,440 defense command there's no plot on that 179 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,639 not supposed to be any planes in that 180 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:15,199 sector at all 181 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,639 any malfunctions no 182 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:22,639 hey what are those things 183 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:24,879 i'll tell you one thing guys whatever 184 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:28,479 they are they are pacing us 185 00:08:29,039 --> 00:08:31,120 shadow delta one move up as close as you 186 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,039 can within your operational altitude 187 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:34,880 we're going to scramble for a look roger 188 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:35,919 we're going up 189 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:37,519 autopilot 190 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:40,940 attention already squadrons 191 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,040 42 000 192 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,959 pressurization 42 000 193 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,839 the men of blanco vista were trained and 194 00:09:03,839 --> 00:09:06,320 ready it was their fastest scramble on 195 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,320 record 196 00:09:18,959 --> 00:09:21,959 communication 197 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,959 all right we're leveling 198 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,360 but whiskey give me an idea where these 199 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,760 guys are I can't see things uh 200 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,880 ceiling's now at 41 000. 201 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,720 target's at 75 000. they're way up there 202 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,040 weigh it 203 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,959 we're climbing out twenty thousand feet 204 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:48,880 roger tango one tango two is confirming 205 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,240 activating onboard weapons 206 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:00,480 uh speed 500 altitude 42 000 and holding 207 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,839 tango 1 passing through 25 208 00:10:02,839 --> 00:10:04,800 000. 209 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,880 tango one tango two 210 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,600 we're handing you over to radar control 211 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,760 roger starting attack approach now 212 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,079 here come the marines 213 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:25,600 wow 214 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,160 look at them hall 215 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,040 angel one turning now roger tango one 216 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,839 i'm on youtube 217 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,800 tango one and tango two approaching 40 218 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,750 hey where'd they go 219 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,279 they're gone ufos are gone 220 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:48,240 what 221 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:48,660 nothing 222 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:55,120 tango one this is frank govista come in 223 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,120 please over 224 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,800 there tell roy those jets have never 225 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,160 been through the cloud they're gone what 226 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,839 does rick say rig said that they never 227 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:04,160 came through the cloud 228 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,720 tango two come in please come in please 229 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,800 tango one tango two 230 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,720 do you copy you copy hey my god tango 231 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,959 one 232 00:11:20,959 --> 00:11:23,120 what had started his simple routine had 233 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,519 become the unbelievable 234 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:28,240 the men were stunned shaken higher 235 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,800 command was notified 236 00:11:49,279 --> 00:11:50,510 foreign 237 00:12:04,639 --> 00:12:07,959 further orders 238 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,760 we have lost contact with your jets we 239 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,560 see no shoots and no debris 240 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:25,200 we are swinging back to search over 241 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,279 as a negative channel delta one this 242 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:29,040 mission is scrubbed 243 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,639 not deviate from your pattern our people 244 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:33,200 are on the way 245 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,639 oh honey I've got to go do you feel like 246 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:39,440 barbecuing tonight oh sure why not let's 247 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,440 just come out for a change huh well then 248 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,000 i've got to get some tomatoes and onions 249 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,079 and mushrooms mushrooms don't excuse me 250 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:48,079 nina uh pete the balloon's just going up 251 00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:50,000 but our communications people have just 252 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,519 monitored the damnedest crosstalk you 253 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:53,519 ever heard quote this is shouted delta 254 00:12:53,519 --> 00:12:54,320 one 255 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,240 we have lost contact with your jets we 256 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,639 see no shoots and no debris swinging 257 00:12:58,639 --> 00:13:00,480 back to search unquote 258 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,240 now what was the reply completely 259 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,680 unintelligible nobody could dig it out 260 00:13:12,639 --> 00:13:14,399 as pete moore left the comfortable 261 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:16,800 surroundings of the base cafeteria 262 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,480 shadow delta one 263 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,560 was about to chart a course for a 264 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:23,760 strange and unknown destination 265 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,760 air force 412 this is norad 266 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,200 communications 267 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,800 you are being handed off to digger 268 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,279 control repeat digger control 269 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:33,279 this is a security transfer 270 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:34,959 your new frequency will be command 271 00:13:34,959 --> 00:13:36,800 channel v 272 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,079 do you copy 273 00:13:38,079 --> 00:13:40,079 roger norad switching over switching 274 00:13:40,079 --> 00:13:41,440 channel d 275 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,079 on channel dave 276 00:13:44,079 --> 00:13:45,360 digger 277 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,680 beats me 278 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,160 hey you guys are we gonna stay up here 279 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,199 all day huh 280 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,760 looks like I got another baloney 281 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,040 sandwich back there if any of you guys 282 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,360 want it 283 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,800 you wanted it for you me 284 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,240 air force 412 this is digger control 285 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,920 do not acknowledge radio communication 286 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,440 from this point on 287 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,000 come to course zero seven four maintain 288 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,839 present flight level and air speed for 289 00:14:13,839 --> 00:14:16,000 30 minutes 290 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,040 set zero seven four zero seven four set 291 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,240 all right see if we can reach in right 292 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,959 somewhere in trouble again 293 00:14:30,959 --> 00:14:34,560 i'll raise uh 412. oh mike listen uh get 294 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,079 a hold of freeman barnes will you blanco 295 00:14:36,079 --> 00:14:37,920 vista have them call me what do I do 296 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,760 about this transmission read it to the 297 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,760 general 298 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,760 it's hard to race 412 for me will you 299 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:52,959 well colonel I don't think we can do 300 00:14:52,959 --> 00:14:54,079 that they've been handed off to the 301 00:14:54,079 --> 00:14:56,959 north american air defense command 302 00:14:56,959 --> 00:14:58,560 norad 303 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,360 when just a few minutes ago 304 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,720 we'll try anyway 305 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,639 yes sir 306 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:06,320 shadow delta one this is whitney 307 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,760 communications do you read me 308 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,480 shadow delta one this is whitney com 309 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,519 whitney com please respond 310 00:15:27,199 --> 00:15:28,959 all right if uh major dunning shows up 311 00:15:28,959 --> 00:15:30,639 tell him I'm in big operations okay 312 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:33,880 right sir 313 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:23,639 foreign 314 00:16:54,959 --> 00:16:57,959 so 315 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,720 so 316 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,700 so 317 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,840 so 318 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,960 radar ready 319 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,960 okay 412 has been diverted to hollowell 320 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,720 air force base 321 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,559 wyoming yes sir divergence is right 322 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:47,679 there this came from uh norad 323 00:18:47,679 --> 00:18:51,280 anything else I can do for you sir no 324 00:18:53,679 --> 00:18:56,679 operation 325 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,799 pete I couldn't get anywhere near it 326 00:19:12,799 --> 00:19:15,200 right you know for something so hot we 327 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,480 sure seem to be getting shoved down the 328 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,799 back burner and what about barnes 329 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:20,240 something's cocked out of blanco vista 330 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,760 too can't get through then we'd better 331 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,990 patch it in or after that right 332 00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:49,360 here we go 333 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,039 for one dude this is bigger control 334 00:19:53,039 --> 00:19:55,360 drop down to 150 feet 335 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:57,760 change course to 173 336 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,960 get 35 miles from touchdown 337 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,960 set pressurization for 150 feet 338 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,570 150 339 00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:16,240 as a matter of procedure 340 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,360 whitney radar tracked shadow delta 1 341 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:21,100 until it disappeared 342 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:30,080 yeah 343 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,039 i put it on the speaker 344 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:34,960 uh yeah do you have a plot on air force 345 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,799 412 out of whitney being diverted from 346 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:39,039 blanco vista to hollywell yes we do 347 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:40,159 colonel uh 348 00:20:40,159 --> 00:20:41,760 1430. 349 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,520 who authorized that diversion well 350 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,200 that's all I can give you colonel 351 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,400 i suggest you contact blanca vista well 352 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,760 i'll do that 353 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,799 look 354 00:20:50,799 --> 00:20:52,640 we picked up part of a transmission 355 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,720 something about uh 412 losing contact 356 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,159 with some marine jets 357 00:20:56,159 --> 00:20:58,240 have you got anything on that 358 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,840 no sir again you'd better contact 359 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,240 michael vista 360 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,640 very well 361 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,880 look if you get anything on that plane 362 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,559 you holler for me before you holler for 363 00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:14,880 anyone else you hear yes sir oh and uh 364 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,480 contact hollywood have bishop call me 365 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,000 just soon as he gets here okay where do 366 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,760 i find you in my office I gotta get all 367 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,840 the barns 368 00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:38,880 four one two this is bigger control 369 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,000 you were two miles from touchdown 370 00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:45,840 hey roy 371 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,520 listen I don't show anything on my 372 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,600 charts at all just uh 373 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,520 one gunnery range about 100 miles east 374 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,400 of here 375 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,320 well there's something down there four 376 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,320 one two make your approach from course 377 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,320 one zero five repeat one zero five 378 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,000 you'll be on your final 379 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,520 touchdown on runway one zero 380 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,600 four one two 381 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,039 make a right hand turn at the end of the 382 00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:48,559 runway 383 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:50,640 taxi to hangar area 384 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,120 a couple pull stops off all engines into 385 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:57,120 planes that's the post flight 386 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,000 generators alternators inverters off off 387 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,600 off battery switch off 388 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,039 okay let's find out what this is all 389 00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:16,039 about 390 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,120 my name's trotman will you come with me 391 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:36,400 wait a minute wait a minute 392 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,240 before these guys haul away my aircraft 393 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,679 i want to know who's doing it I am 394 00:23:41,679 --> 00:23:44,159 sid 395 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,240 a special intelligence detachment 396 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,720 detached from what work for the same 397 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,000 people you do just the tip and division 398 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,010 let's get in the truck 399 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:09,039 bishop and his men did not question 400 00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:10,960 their surroundings nor the orders given 401 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:11,919 them 402 00:24:11,919 --> 00:24:14,559 they had been trained to obey 403 00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:16,559 training they would find difficult to 404 00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:19,559 contradict 405 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:16,320 what's this all about trump that's what 406 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,000 we intend to find out 407 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,080 riggs production here ferguson bishop in 408 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,080 there 409 00:25:41,679 --> 00:25:44,159 oh what the heck is this 410 00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:46,159 i don't know 411 00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:49,360 very shabby officers club 412 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:51,120 i got air conditioning 413 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:52,320 i got vents 414 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,159 well I hope they turn it on 415 00:25:54,159 --> 00:25:54,960 yeah 416 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,039 let him sweat for about 15 minutes then 417 00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,279 go 418 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:08,400 yo 419 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,840 colonel barnes 420 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,760 hey freeman 421 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,279 you know you got a hell of a phone 422 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:14,640 situation down there I've been trying to 423 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,960 reach you all afternoon listen 424 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,480 uh can you tell me what happened to my 425 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,360 radar 426 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:21,520 well your plane's okay 427 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,039 yeah well we've had quite a morning down 428 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:24,880 here just getting the pieces sorted out 429 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,360 we had a radio transmission this well 430 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:28,559 there might have been some kind of 431 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:30,480 mid-air collision no not at all it's 432 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,080 those radar systems we've been tinkering 433 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,679 with all week you just had a complete 434 00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:35,279 failure of all ground and air units in 435 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:37,520 their backups all of them at the same 436 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,840 time well that's the way it appears 437 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,679 actually your plane has been rerouted to 438 00:26:41,679 --> 00:26:43,360 hollowell 439 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,200 but our people definitely says something 440 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,440 about debris in a search 441 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,919 well we had two planes up there too 442 00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:51,520 they've also been rerouted to hollow 443 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,080 well actually 444 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,679 okay 445 00:26:55,679 --> 00:26:58,919 you better 446 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,159 come in 447 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,200 well that does it hallowell has 448 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,279 absolutely no word at all on 4-1-2 449 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:23,039 what I mean they're not expecting our 450 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:25,440 plane no time no how well I just got 451 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,000 confirmation from barnes yeah where do 452 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,559 you get it we saw it on the board at 453 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:32,480 base operations 454 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,840 somebody didn't get the word to wyoming 455 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,559 radar 456 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,320 why didn't we go there in the first 457 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,640 place 458 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,760 come on 459 00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:50,640 458 sergeant pierce 460 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,360 just sir yeah baseball how about on the 461 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:54,399 line 462 00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:57,200 there's colonel moore 463 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,840 i see well have uh captain bishop call 464 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,640 me as soon as he gets in 465 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:16,039 come inside 466 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:24,720 you know hollywood just confirmed that 467 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,679 412 is doing at 14 30. 468 00:28:27,679 --> 00:28:29,039 it's the middle of summer and here we 469 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:30,559 are in a snowstorm 470 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:32,240 you don't think the plane went down oh 471 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,760 no no nobody would try to cover a thing 472 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,360 like that up but somebody is up to 473 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:37,279 something and I am going to find out 474 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:40,600 what it is 475 00:29:19,919 --> 00:29:21,760 this is a preliminary investigation 476 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,760 nothing you say will be held against you 477 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,000 or used as evidence to incriminate you 478 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,240 in any way whatsoever 479 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,399 you will now be interrogated by the sid 480 00:29:32,399 --> 00:29:33,600 ferguson 481 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,240 who made the original sighting 482 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,720 marines at blanco business there oh wait 483 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,399 look you don't have to call me sir 484 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,240 they asked us to activate our radar and 485 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,559 to look at a certain sector of the sky 486 00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:48,960 what did you see well pedricki reported 487 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,120 three dots at 11 o'clock and I confirmed 488 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,039 is that what black arrester saw well 489 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:54,880 yeah they gave us the coordinate that's 490 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,640 what you reported but they never said 491 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,520 they saw it didn't they 492 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,120 well they must have seen something you 493 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,440 see there's no confirmation on that 494 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,880 something appeared and then it 495 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,279 disappeared maybe it wasn't even there 496 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,679 at all 497 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,200 we want to know everything you thought 498 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,120 you saw 499 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,799 what do you thought we're getting 500 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:24,159 reports in from the marines who are 501 00:30:24,159 --> 00:30:25,120 checking their equipment for 502 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,640 misalignment 503 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,399 what do you mean misalignment 504 00:30:28,399 --> 00:30:30,000 they're bringing their radar people in 505 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,600 to go over the big dish they're sort of 506 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,279 steamed they don't much like it when 507 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:35,600 things go wrong yeah well I i can 508 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,880 understand that I wouldn't either if i 509 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,120 just lost two jets and those mark nine 510 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,440 radar sets I get stories all the time 511 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,600 about 512 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,080 malfunctions you know what do you mean 513 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,760 malfunction 514 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,000 now something snatched two jets right 515 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,880 out of the damn sky 516 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,080 we agree 517 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,600 three blips appeared and then 518 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,799 disappeared 519 00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:00,159 and so did the two marine jets and 520 00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:02,399 they're not supposed to 521 00:31:02,399 --> 00:31:04,640 you saw them disappear on the radar 522 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,399 scope 523 00:31:06,399 --> 00:31:08,960 get riggs in here you saw them go 524 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,360 well nice 525 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,720 let me tell you something about the 526 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,240 reliability 527 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,679 look 528 00:31:15,679 --> 00:31:17,279 the facts are simple 529 00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,279 blanco vista saw three blips we saw the 530 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:21,360 blips they scrambled two jets the jets 531 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,159 disappeared the blitz disappeared now 532 00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:28,360 what are you gonna do about it 533 00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:41,600 now 534 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,039 let's go back over some of the details 535 00:31:51,919 --> 00:31:53,919 what are we gonna tell enright 536 00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:56,480 i don't know 537 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,399 oh sergeant yes sir I understand you 538 00:31:58,399 --> 00:32:00,159 were tracking 4 12 this morning did you 539 00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:02,559 track it as far up as uh hollywell uh no 540 00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:04,880 they went east 541 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,960 east yes sir nord handed them off to 542 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,919 somebody called digger control 543 00:32:09,919 --> 00:32:11,039 um 544 00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:13,120 what is digger control 545 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,240 i don't know colonel but norah had 546 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,000 handled it and did you track him after 547 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,120 that yes sir they turned to course 074 548 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,559 and took off in the desert due east 549 00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:22,799 until I lost them 550 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:24,480 what do you mean you lost them well they 551 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,760 dropped off the scope when they get near 552 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,159 the mountains you lost radar contact and 553 00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:30,000 you didn't tell anybody major digger 554 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,480 control had 4-1-2 I only tracked them 555 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,320 because they're heading what do you mean 556 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,760 curiosity 557 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,760 i've been stationed here 14 months and 558 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,880 i've never seen anything flown through 559 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,360 that area 560 00:32:41,679 --> 00:32:43,679 all right can you pinpoint it for me 561 00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:47,039 sure can colonel okay 562 00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:52,080 so what what are you talking rich is 563 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,080 standing right here now now he saw the 564 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,600 jets disappear why don't you ask them 565 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,640 what 566 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,080 we're talking about blips 567 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:02,480 no really 568 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,279 boy 569 00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:04,720 you guys you're really a tunnel vision 570 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,240 duncan huh you really do 571 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,279 okay 572 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:10,480 okay I'll tell you how we can settle 573 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,880 this whole thing how all right you're 574 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,559 bringing an expert on radar and an 575 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,000 expert on aeronautics and you let us 576 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,159 talk to them what would you tell them 577 00:33:18,159 --> 00:33:19,840 well aside from the most important part 578 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,000 namely that rig's got a visual on two 579 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,919 marine jets just snapping right out of 580 00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:26,880 the sky I saw three radar blips make a 581 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,880 right angle turn in mid-air and move off 582 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,120 the scope at about 5000 miles per hour 583 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,000 now 584 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,840 those experts could tell you that no 585 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,720 known flying machine or bird of any sort 586 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,480 can make such a turn 587 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,399 that nothing non-designs can accelerate 588 00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:44,720 from 500 to 5000 in one second flat 589 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,000 now that is what I saw 590 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,840 you can ask rick's what he saw 591 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,720 okay clifford what did you see I saw two 592 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,559 marine interceptors 593 00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,320 climbing forward of us 594 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,080 now they flew into a cloud and I never 595 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,840 came out okay how thick was a cloud 596 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,720 seven eight hundred feet 597 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,039 okay we have two marine jets moving it 598 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:08,560 better than 900 plus they should have 599 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,839 punched through that cloud in less than 600 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:12,320 three or four seconds did they 601 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,320 well I just told you they didn't 602 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,639 what did your scope show exactly what he 603 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,239 saw the jets disappeared and so did 604 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,599 those other things they just but you 605 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,359 didn't see that 606 00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:23,760 you only saw your scopes blips on and 607 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,000 off 608 00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:28,480 tony 609 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,000 this is sounding more and more like 610 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,239 electronic malfunction that's exactly 611 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,239 what you were sent up there to check out 612 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,839 well then blanco vista must have had the 613 00:34:35,839 --> 00:34:37,760 same malfunction we did yeah and they're 614 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,119 checking that out well they better take 615 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:40,879 a nose kind of just because they are 616 00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:42,639 going to come up too short we have no 617 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:44,699 report of two jets missing 618 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,719 i'd be very happy to make one 619 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,520 look cliff 620 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,599 you suffered a trick of the eye 621 00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:59,839 now if two jets went down in that area 622 00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:02,240 we'd know about it and we don't they 623 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:03,760 didn't go down 624 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,240 they just went 625 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,400 nothing does that that's what I'm trying 626 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,320 to tell you and I'm trying to tell you 627 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,839 that we don't deal in science fiction 628 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,160 of course 074 would have put them on 629 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,000 this heading right here 630 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,920 that means they would have gone in here 631 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,440 popped over these mountains and back on 632 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,440 the radar yes but they didn't so they 633 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,880 must be here somewhere but you know 634 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,480 something they wouldn't travel at low 635 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,240 altitudes for very long they must have 636 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:38,079 landed I'm not on sand there's got to be 637 00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,560 a base uh the airstrip 638 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,560 there's dirt roads here look we got a 639 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,800 gunnery range here right with an 640 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,440 airstrip no they didn't get that far 641 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,599 not over these mountains 642 00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:50,880 yeah 643 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,720 well no symbols 644 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:55,119 you got a base directory 645 00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:58,839 yes it's on the shelf 646 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,119 is carol moore 647 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:04,800 it's freeman barnes 648 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,839 how's it going lousy 649 00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:09,119 maybe if you're open tomorrow we can 650 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:11,119 have lunch 651 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:13,280 just the two of us a little chat yeah 652 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,960 well I'm not gonna be free 653 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,119 well tonight baby I'm very sorry i 654 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:19,119 really am busy can I call you back no 655 00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:20,640 look pete 656 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,640 they've sealed up blanca vista 657 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,040 a security alert yeah kind of they've 658 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,280 pulled my radar people off the line 659 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,599 why 660 00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:32,240 have you got your people back yet 661 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,400 no 662 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,680 freeman 663 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,119 did the alert have anything to do with 664 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:39,599 that uh radio transmission we picked up 665 00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,560 about losing contact with your jets 666 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,240 we've lost them 667 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,720 they've disappeared vanished 668 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:47,599 what 669 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:50,320 off the scopes without a trace 670 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,920 is that why they pulled your radar 671 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,280 people 672 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,400 pete I suppose you know there's a 673 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,680 standard procedure for ufo sightings 674 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,920 why didn't you tell me about this before 675 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,320 i couldn't speak freely before yeah well 676 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,560 what is the connection between that and 677 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,960 412 I don't know 678 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,560 determination is in other hands 679 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,720 special intelligence 680 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,119 very strange everybody's operating on a 681 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,280 strictly need to know basis 682 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,880 well I need to know more than that 683 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:22,320 i don't know how you're going to handle 684 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,520 this but 685 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,760 well if it ever comes up 686 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,040 i never made this phone call 687 00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:33,280 what do you mean about radar people look 688 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,200 we're we're just trying to find our men 689 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,720 right well I've done this here 690 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,280 pullman marine air station deactivated 691 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,520 1954 didn't even on the map anymore 692 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,359 okay that's my contribution tell me what 693 00:37:47,359 --> 00:37:51,119 barnes said no later 694 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,440 how are you at desert survival 695 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,960 we're going out there 696 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,920 well what are we going to tell the 697 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:56,880 general 698 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,520 well if we do find our people 699 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,440 i'm going to tell him plenty 700 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,280 i don't know what we're gonna do when we 701 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,280 get there 702 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,359 we're gonna get our men out if they're 703 00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:29,520 there 704 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,200 you think we can just uh walk in say 705 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,960 excuse me these are mine and walk out 706 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,880 again 707 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,640 pete somebody went to a lot of trouble 708 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,599 to keep this secret 709 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,960 that's for sure 710 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,880 what was barnes talking about 711 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,720 well it seems that uh 712 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:48,000 412 713 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,280 tangled with a ufo 714 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,320 pete 715 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,320 let's go back the men are okay I know 716 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,520 they are 717 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,440 how do you know that 718 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,040 because I was involved in something like 719 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,680 this two years ago ufo situation and 720 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,079 what happened oh they really raked us 721 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:11,920 over the cold they convinced us that we 722 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,160 didn't see a thing 723 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,160 and they made it perfectly clear we were 724 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,000 involved in the national security 725 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,960 situation 726 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,880 look I know how you feel about the men i 727 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,720 respect you for that but I'm telling you 728 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:26,280 back off now 729 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,440 for my own good I can back off now 730 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:36,880 so when blocker vista told you to check 731 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,720 that sector you didn't question them at 732 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,079 all nope 733 00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:42,720 it's not my job to do that but you could 734 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:43,920 have asked them 735 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,480 hey fellas what are we looking for 736 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,480 it's obvious they wanted an independent 737 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,760 observation 738 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,560 obvious to you maybe 739 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,119 isn't that right 740 00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:57,839 what are you guys gonna feed us 741 00:39:57,839 --> 00:40:00,240 we'll get around to it 742 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:01,839 ferguson how did you get into the air 743 00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:03,520 force academy 744 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,960 i was appointed 745 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,200 congressman 746 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,359 you like what you do 747 00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:10,400 sure 748 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,480 is he any good at it 749 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,640 he's excellent and how do you think he 750 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,480 achieved this uh 751 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,359 level of excellence my training 752 00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:20,800 the united states government laid out a 753 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,960 lot of money for that training 754 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,599 i appreciate it that's good because when 755 00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:27,839 you got through the academy ferguson 756 00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:29,680 amongst other things you became an 757 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,119 officer and a gentleman 758 00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:32,720 yes he did 759 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:34,640 where is all this leading to you're told 760 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,920 and it's the truth 761 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,280 that you're the best this country has to 762 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,560 offer all 763 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,160 that's required 764 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,800 is that you measure up to what 765 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,240 that's the primary obligation of a 766 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:47,599 military officer which is 767 00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:50,960 bishop what are your laws lie 768 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,040 you questioning my integrity not at all 769 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,240 just your 770 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,920 level of cooperation what 771 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,319 what am I supposed to cooperate with 772 00:41:02,319 --> 00:41:05,359 why did you get to the point 773 00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:07,839 he can't 774 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,200 he's not questioning our integrity 775 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,800 he's asking us to dispense with it 776 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,119 aren't you 777 00:41:25,839 --> 00:41:28,640 all right bishop 778 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,839 how did you get into the academy 779 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,599 hey fellas 780 00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:43,119 coffee 781 00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:45,680 sandwiches sale brazil mr cheers here 782 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,440 hey listen listen I'll trade you my 783 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,319 baloney prince 784 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,680 connie 785 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,560 yeah a little cream okay 786 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,400 yeah it's dead fresh 787 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:04,960 okay 788 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,760 who saw the flying saucers 789 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,119 well who saw them 790 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:23,200 cliff 791 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,200 oh no I uh 792 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,000 no I didn't 793 00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,200 tony 794 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,160 i 795 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,119 i I just saw some blips good yeah then 796 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,280 we can dispense with that huh 797 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,040 what about the jets that were dispensed 798 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,640 with uh unconfirmed 799 00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:44,640 hey 800 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,240 how come you guys won't buy a story i'll 801 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,079 come hmm because it sounds just like a 802 00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:49,440 story 803 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,359 but we've dealt with these things before 804 00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:53,119 qualified people making unqualified 805 00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:54,079 statements 806 00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:55,599 now what you thought you saw couldn't 807 00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:57,040 happen 808 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,400 there's no evidence to make us believe 809 00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,440 that it could 810 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,440 so 811 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,359 you didn't see it 812 00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:04,800 why don't you finish that sentence we 813 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,079 don't get out of here until we swallow 814 00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,480 that right buster 815 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,760 the only thing I'm going to swallow is 816 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,760 coffee 817 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,280 hey 818 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,119 how much longer do we have to put up 819 00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:26,480 with this 820 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,960 i don't know 821 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,720 maybe we don't have to 822 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,319 i'll have to think about it 823 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,160 this is a restricted area 824 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,119 you get that light out of my face 825 00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:46,319 sorry sir this is a restricted area 826 00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:48,720 i'm colonel moore this is major dunning 827 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:49,839 the 828 00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:51,760 i suggest that you call whoever's in 829 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,960 charge here and tell him if he has two 830 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,480 additional guests 831 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,359 you'll understand what I mean 832 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,599 i've got a colonel moore and a major 833 00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:12,319 dunning here at the main gate sir 834 00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:13,760 i don't know what else we can tell you i 835 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,040 mean I don't know what else we can get i 836 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,560 mean you guys can say anything you want 837 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,560 anyway 838 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,880 yeah just say that just write it down 839 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,440 malfunction I i don't care okay that's 840 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,880 pretty generous no the whole thing was 841 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,240 the male functions and the time we left 842 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:29,599 whitney the time we got here it's just 843 00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:33,480 one great big malfunction 844 00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:49,119 i have trotman 845 00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:53,200 i'd like to see some id 846 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,839 well you would well we'd like to see 847 00:45:55,839 --> 00:45:59,160 some of yours 848 00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:13,920 what can I do for you colonel you're 849 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,720 holding four of my men so I mean so 850 00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:21,200 this this whole act here wouldn't be 851 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,319 because of a ufo sighting now 852 00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:26,560 it's a ufo situation colonel when these 853 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,000 things occur it's policy to check out 854 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,160 all the personnel involved 855 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,000 what do you mean check out piece the 856 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,319 whole thing together I see you're um 857 00:46:34,319 --> 00:46:36,319 you're investigating is that we're 858 00:46:36,319 --> 00:46:38,160 talking to your men 859 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,760 can I see them 860 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,440 not just yet when 861 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,640 colonel this is a matter of national 862 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,400 security oh come on that's getting to be 863 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,560 a very thin umbrella 864 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,240 now I know about national security 865 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:49,119 mister 866 00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:50,560 but you can't put that label on 867 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,560 everything we get these assignments all 868 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,800 the time it's routine routine or not i'm 869 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,839 not leaving here without my men 870 00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,119 on that case 871 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:02,400 one of the two of you make yourselves 872 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,599 comfortable I'll have some coffee 873 00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:04,640 sending we'll have your men out as soon 874 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,160 as possible 875 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,720 and how long will that be 876 00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:11,839 as long as it takes 877 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,319 those were the guys that I was involved 878 00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:25,280 with two years ago srd 879 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,720 he's probably on the phone right now to 880 00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:28,400 end right telling what a pair of clowns 881 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,800 we are 882 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,960 if you need me I'll get a contract 883 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,960 all I have to do is to get to the 884 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,040 aircraft race whitney on the radio the 885 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,000 colonel can do the rest 886 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,480 if someone comes 887 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,480 stolen 888 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,319 don't rock the boat don't make waves 889 00:48:00,319 --> 00:48:01,680 you figure that's the way that majors 890 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,200 get to be colonels 891 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,520 a certain lieutenant I knew stuck his 892 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,200 nose in two years ago where it didn't 893 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,599 belong the lieutenant is now a shoe 894 00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:11,599 salesman in cincinnati 895 00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:13,119 that kind of advancement in life I don't 896 00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,359 need 897 00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:18,079 you're concerned about your position 898 00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:21,319 that's right 899 00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:25,960 well I'm concerned about more than that 900 00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:44,359 so 901 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,880 com center this is digger control 902 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,880 this is trotman patch me through the 903 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,200 digger command 904 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,880 hello 905 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,280 yes 906 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,000 put them through 907 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,520 him right now in an interrogation room 908 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,200 you ordered this well yes sir the 909 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,280 circumstances dictated it if I had 910 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,480 refused them entry they may have gone to 911 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,800 another authority 912 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,880 yes I see 913 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,839 well then you did well carmen 914 00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:46,559 how are things going with that crew 915 00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:48,400 well we just about finished with the men 916 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,440 and we should have all of the 917 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,720 contradictory evidence we need by 918 00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:52,880 tomorrow morning 919 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,240 you're very efficient rockman 920 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,960 just remember 921 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,960 no violence 922 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,559 i wouldn't dream of it sir 923 00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:05,280 you hear anything 924 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,480 at least one of them has some guts 925 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,800 i'll tell trump this should be 926 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,800 interesting 927 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,280 so 928 00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:53,359 bishop 929 00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:55,200 congratulations 930 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,040 we know where you are there's no way to 931 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,079 go 932 00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:00,559 you're a good airman of a nice try 933 00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:04,599 but now return to your room 934 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,400 i have a right to go to my aircraft 935 00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:13,760 did you hear me 936 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,520 yes I can 937 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,000 i have a right to go to my aircraft i 938 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,119 have a right to call my commanding 939 00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:22,000 officer and tell them what's going on 940 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,880 what is going on 941 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,880 my men and I are being held against our 942 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,920 will negative we are conducting a deep 943 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,599 briefing under orders you will not be 944 00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:35,119 released until you are debriefed 945 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:38,160 debriefing 946 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,839 that doesn't make any sense doesn't it 947 00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:43,680 you flew some missions in vietnam you 948 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,760 were debriefed after everyone yes or no 949 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:48,720 yes 950 00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:50,480 and why not here do you think it would 951 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,160 make a difference we're not dealing with 952 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,760 the enemy here 953 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,760 do you know that 954 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,200 really 955 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,839 do you know everything about national 956 00:52:58,839 --> 00:53:01,359 policy or what the military complex is 957 00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:02,480 up against 958 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,880 do you 959 00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:13,960 go back to your room 960 00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:18,319 no 961 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,000 all right bishop you may go to your 962 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,280 aircraft 963 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,359 but if you choose to do that 964 00:53:25,359 --> 00:53:27,680 it's going to be hard on your men 965 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,599 much harder 966 00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:31,599 i don't want that you don't all you want 967 00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:33,440 to do is get out of here 968 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,920 there's only one way you can do it 969 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,620 don't make up your mind 970 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,070 oh 971 00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:31,400 how'd it go 972 00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:42,079 come on what you know what you're doing 973 00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:45,040 to tell me why just why 974 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,640 i'm only looking for the truth the truth 975 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,520 tony he wants the truth 976 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,160 stormwater forget it 977 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,119 hey look 978 00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:16,880 we just want to get the hell out of here 979 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,839 okay just the hell out 980 00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:23,599 whatever he wants to say do right 981 00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:25,599 whatever we'll do it 982 00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:27,839 all right with anything you want 983 00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:29,920 he wants to sign anything 984 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,599 with anything record anything he'll 985 00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:34,610 agree to any what he wants 986 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,970 no we're getting somewhere 987 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,920 okay roy let's change the subject shall 988 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,920 we 989 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,680 if you got an order 990 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,599 through the proper channels 991 00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:14,160 prohibiting you from discussing matters 992 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,839 pertaining to national security 993 00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:21,359 would you obey it 994 00:56:22,799 --> 00:56:25,359 of course 995 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,359 what is your attitude about such an 996 00:56:27,359 --> 00:56:30,359 order 997 00:56:31,359 --> 00:56:34,079 where's their orders we know that 998 00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:36,880 i want an opinion 999 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,880 i would think that the air force would 1000 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,400 have a pretty good reason 1001 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,160 a practical reason 1002 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,680 why don't you just 1003 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,079 just give me an order 1004 00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:52,480 what's that 1005 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,599 i'm air force 1006 00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:59,040 i'm not some wild-eyed coop looking to 1007 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,480 get on a six o'clock news do you 1008 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,680 understand you don't have to try to 1009 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,440 convince me just give me an order 1010 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,799 something on paper something I show my 1011 00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:05,760 men 1012 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,440 we're speaking hypothetically no you 1013 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,960 weren't 1014 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,599 you want me to shut up give me an order 1015 00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:13,920 no that's not it at all I want an order 1016 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,160 now 1017 00:57:16,319 --> 00:57:18,880 sit down 1018 00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:24,400 sit 1019 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,400 down 1020 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,200 now 1021 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,920 tell colonel morty I was meant back now 1022 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,510 all right let's go 1023 00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:36,839 now 1024 00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:41,440 right in there 1025 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,280 as soon as they're cleaned up colonel 1026 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,680 hold it 1027 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,400 i want them as is to being a little 1028 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,359 dramatic 1029 00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:53,599 no not really 1030 00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:55,599 colonel 1031 00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:57,680 truckman 1032 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,000 you had my men for 18 hours 1033 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,359 now they're mine 1034 00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:06,799 dunning and I are gonna fly them out of 1035 00:59:06,799 --> 00:59:08,720 here 1036 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,799 well that'll be fine 1037 00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:12,240 i'll see that your car gets back to 1038 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,240 whitney 1039 00:59:30,799 --> 00:59:33,799 whoa 1040 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,680 digger control disappeared as easily as 1041 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,160 it had come into existence leaving pete 1042 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:02,079 moore a choice he didn't hesitate 1043 01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:04,160 what do we tell general enron uh don't 1044 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,480 worry about it I'm going in with him 1045 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:07,520 huh 1046 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,440 i wish you'd drop it 1047 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:10,880 for your sake 1048 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,480 now don't throw away a career for some 1049 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,480 lousy ufos 1050 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,440 that's not what it's about no 1051 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,400 and what oh for one thing I'd say uh i'd 1052 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,920 say sanctions 1053 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,119 sanctions 1054 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:23,839 yeah 1055 01:00:23,839 --> 01:00:26,240 yeah this whole setup here now those men 1056 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,520 were ordered to work my people over and 1057 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,440 i'm going to find out who 1058 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,000 and why 1059 01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:34,960 but colonel 1060 01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:37,440 i uh 1061 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,480 i'm not going to see anybody about 1062 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,480 anything 1063 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,079 just give the general my regards 1064 01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:47,240 all right 1065 01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:10,119 know 1066 01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:01,440 general 1067 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,839 colonel more to see you sir hi pete over 1068 01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:06,240 here 1069 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,240 how are you feeling 1070 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,400 a little tired yeah 1071 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,440 what's all this at ease man 1072 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,960 well general I'm gonna tell you the 1073 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,000 wildest story you've ever heard 1074 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,400 i've just read it now pete I knew you 1075 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,359 had initiative but uh 1076 01:02:23,359 --> 01:02:24,799 you fellas look like you've been pulled 1077 01:02:24,799 --> 01:02:27,119 through a wine press is that trotman's 1078 01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:28,240 report 1079 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,079 yes it is 1080 01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:31,520 what do you think 1081 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:32,799 well very thorough quite an 1082 01:02:32,799 --> 01:02:35,359 investigation oh yes it was thorough but 1083 01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:37,920 there was no investigation 1084 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,640 it's all here yeah the men are here 1085 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,400 412 is here 1086 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,240 the report is here 1087 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,880 but where are the two marine jets 1088 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,280 uh what marine jacks the ones I saw 1089 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,160 disappear sir 1090 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,599 you are uh 1091 01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:55,440 captain riggs sir 1092 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,920 oh yeah 1093 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,200 well I see nothing here about two jets 1094 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,640 then sir you're right in the middle of a 1095 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,160 con job 1096 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,559 i see 1097 01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:12,319 captain you did mention this during the 1098 01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:14,799 investigation at least once every half 1099 01:03:14,799 --> 01:03:17,839 hour sir 1100 01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:27,599 excuse me gentlemen will you uh wait 1101 01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:28,720 inside 1102 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,839 yes sir 1103 01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:23,119 you know colonel moore and these men 1104 01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:26,280 yes sir 1105 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,119 colonel is this report complete yes sir 1106 01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:33,599 not one detail has been left out no sir 1107 01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:35,599 well I see no mention here of a visual 1108 01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:37,039 sighting on the disappearance of two 1109 01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:41,559 marine jets scrambled by black vista 1110 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,359 what about that colonel 1111 01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:46,720 those are uh 1112 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,039 reports are under a separate coverage 1113 01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:50,559 you mean to say you couldn't connect one 1114 01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:52,839 with the other of course i 1115 01:04:52,839 --> 01:04:55,440 did why didn't you do something about it 1116 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,079 that's not my job wait a minute those 1117 01:04:58,079 --> 01:04:59,760 two missing jets 1118 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,559 they are confirmed yes sir when 1119 01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:04,960 yesterday about 12 45. 1120 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,079 yesterday 1121 01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:07,680 then why did you hold my men all that 1122 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:08,720 time 1123 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,559 you know those reports were probably 1124 01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:12,240 written one hour after you started 1125 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:13,599 questioning 1126 01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:17,039 my orders dictate my methods 1127 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,319 when I get my orders captain I follow 1128 01:05:20,319 --> 01:05:22,240 them 1129 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,160 the last time I heard that 1130 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,400 it came from the docket at nuremberg 1131 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,640 i wouldn't make hasty comparisons just 1132 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,880 what are your orders 1133 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,319 to intimidate 1134 01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:33,599 to bend 1135 01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:35,039 to distort the truth so that nobody 1136 01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:36,400 would recognize it after you're finished 1137 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,359 with it 1138 01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:38,480 general 1139 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:39,440 what 1140 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,280 you know the policy I don't 1141 01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:45,440 what is the policy 1142 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,960 to investigate any sightings of 1143 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,960 unidentified flying objects by air force 1144 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,799 personnel and determine the accuracy of 1145 01:05:50,799 --> 01:05:52,480 those sightings 1146 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,319 and what do you do about it the reports 1147 01:05:54,319 --> 01:05:56,640 are sent up sent up to who 1148 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,039 that's classified 1149 01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:00,880 you know I'm not a scientist 1150 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,200 and neither are you 1151 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,119 but it seems to me that 1152 01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:07,200 you got to sort of take a a scientific 1153 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,039 approach to this either you prove these 1154 01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:11,280 things exist or you prove they don't 1155 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,280 exist but you don't pretend they're not 1156 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,520 there 1157 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,480 now who sees these reports pete 1158 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,760 and you're entering an area that doesn't 1159 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:22,880 concern you 1160 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,720 i'm drawing a line here and you don't 1161 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,599 cross over it what line 1162 01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:28,799 policy 1163 01:06:28,799 --> 01:06:30,799 colonel we don't set the policy we act 1164 01:06:30,799 --> 01:06:32,799 on it we make our reports and that's it 1165 01:06:32,799 --> 01:06:34,079 any action to be taken comes from 1166 01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:36,400 somewhere else 1167 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,720 where 1168 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,319 will you men please wait outside 1169 01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:55,520 sit down 1170 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,520 uh frankly pete the air force doesn't 1171 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,920 have the time or the funds for tracking 1172 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,839 down flying sources 1173 01:07:05,839 --> 01:07:07,200 yes but they do have the funds to 1174 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,680 maintain places like digger base look 1175 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,400 sir my men told their story as straight 1176 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,440 as they could based on what they saw 1177 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,119 or thought they saw 1178 01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:19,440 it doesn't make any difference really of 1179 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,319 course how you get a directive that 1180 01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:24,240 tells you what to do gives you no 1181 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,680 latitude at all 1182 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,520 and you know what you are 1183 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,760 you're nothing but a laundry processor 1184 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,960 pete we don't need any of that general 1185 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,760 what this man does is pointless 1186 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,760 by instinct I know that his attitude 1187 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:38,960 doesn't serve the interests of this 1188 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,359 country its people or its government 1189 01:07:41,359 --> 01:07:42,880 colonel 1190 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,400 officers are not supposed to act on 1191 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,400 instinct they act on orders and yours 1192 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,280 are to lay off 1193 01:07:53,359 --> 01:07:56,359 credit 1194 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,480 thank you 1195 01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:10,960 you're going really be noble why don't 1196 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,640 you do it over something worthwhile now 1197 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,240 don't misunderstand me I'm just as 1198 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,799 concerned over this as you are yeah 1199 01:08:16,799 --> 01:08:18,319 more so 1200 01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:19,839 what I'm going to show you now is 1201 01:08:19,839 --> 01:08:21,759 strictly off the record 1202 01:08:21,759 --> 01:08:25,839 it is not to leave this room 1203 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,520 this is all we found of the missing 1204 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,319 marine jets 1205 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,359 well where was this about 80 miles east 1206 01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:49,359 of lanca vista 1207 01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:51,839 but where the crews 1208 01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:54,000 still looking 1209 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,560 did trotman know about this 1210 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,158 he didn't need to it has nothing to do 1211 01:08:58,158 --> 01:09:00,798 with his job 1212 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,359 general does this sort of cover up going 1213 01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:04,719 all the time 1214 01:09:04,719 --> 01:09:05,600 eight 1215 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,319 now look at that picture 1216 01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:10,080 that's the only piece of wreckage we've 1217 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,040 got 1218 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,479 that's it that's all there is 1219 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:15,759 there's no way in the world we can 1220 01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:18,400 explain this 1221 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,600 and it's not the policy of the military 1222 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,880 to create panic 1223 01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:33,159 general what are we creating 1224 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,560 sorry to keep you fellas 1225 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,800 you hungry no thanks 1226 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,239 colonel we're sorry that we made things 1227 01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:57,920 rough for you 1228 01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:58,960 for me 1229 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,640 yeah we've talked over sir this whole 1230 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,719 thing it just isn't worth it go drop it 1231 01:10:02,719 --> 01:10:04,239 if you say so sir 1232 01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:07,040 no don't do that 1233 01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:09,600 remember policies change 1234 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,120 yeah 1235 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,199 yeah but not attitudes but they don't 1236 01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:16,159 last forever 1237 01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:19,170 only as long as they're expedient 1238 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,520 pete moore would have pursued the 1239 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,679 disappearance of flight 412 if he could 1240 01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:32,320 have found some place to pursue it 1241 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,000 no one cared 1242 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,000 and the only reason he could ever find 1243 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,600 why they didn't care 1244 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,760 was because they were afraid to cope 1245 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:40,960 with it 1246 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,400 even when it happened again 1247 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,840 four months later 1248 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,920 a similar exercise 1249 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,640 this time everyone was there from the 1250 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,320 top down 1251 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,000 planes scrambled 1252 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,679 objects were sighted 1253 01:10:55,679 --> 01:10:58,640 everyone was a witness it made no 1254 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,320 difference 1255 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,040 everyone was debriefed the file closed 1256 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,880 the incident forgotten 1257 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,640 much as was flight 4-1-2 1258 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,280 the fate of the men concerned with 4-1-2 1259 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,600 has been curious indeed 1260 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,560 major dunning was promoted to colonel 1261 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,480 lieutenant podrisky in return for his 1262 01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:21,120 cooperation was advanced to captain and 1263 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,199 is presently serving a three-year tour 1264 01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:24,800 in the pentagon 1265 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,120 captain bishop is still a captain and is 1266 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,960 serving a two-year tour in the canal 1267 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:29,920 zone 1268 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,159 pete moore was passed over three times 1269 01:11:32,159 --> 01:11:38,040 for promotion and retired at 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