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My whole life, I've
been fascinated by the universe
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and what's out there
beyond Earth.
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It led me to obtain
advanced degrees
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in astrophysics,
aerospace engineering,
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and optical science.
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Then I got to work
over the past three decades
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with NASA, the U.S. Army,
and the Department of Defense.
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Travis.
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- Hey, Brandon. How you doing?
- Brandon Fugal.
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Four years ago,
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I got the chance of a lifetime
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to join an amazing team
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in their investigation of
the most bizarre place
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I'd ever heard of:
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Skinwalker Ranch.
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At first, I was skeptical
of all the legends,
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but from day one, we've
experienced things together
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that I thought were only
possible in science fiction.
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- What are you seeing?
- A signal?
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Massive energy
spikes that come out of nowhere...
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1.60000.
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Boy that thing
sounds like it's hitting something.
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Evidence of a 400-foot-long,
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dome-shaped object
buried inside a rocky mesa.
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Yeah, I'm up against
something pretty hard right now.
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Inexplicable animal deaths...
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There's no sign of
struggle, it's just dead.
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And a ton of UAPs.
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Look, look, look, what is that?
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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- UAP right there!
- Yup.
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Recently, some
documents were released
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to the public about a
program run by the Pentagon
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known as UAPTF.
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The Unidentified Aerial
Phenomena Task Force.
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It was created
about four years ago
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for the study of UAPs
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and phenomena like what we've
experienced on Skinwalker Ranch.
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These documents also revealed
that I was the chief scientist
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for the UAPTF, and
I helped to author
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the official report that was
presented to Congress in 2021.
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However, I wasn't
permitted to disclose
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any of this to the
team on the ranch.
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So, now, as I'm returning
to join them once again
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for what I consider to be
the most critical investigation
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of the UAP
phenomenon in the world,
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I'm real eager to discuss
what I can with them,
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and I'm curious what
their response will be.
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There is
a ranch in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that
have proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years, the
federal government
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tried to find
answers and failed.
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Now a new team of
dedicated scientists,
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researchers and
experts has taken over.
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They are determined to
solve the mystery and reveal...
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The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.
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Hey, Dragon, this
is, uh, Cameron.
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I have Brandon on board.
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We're on the perimeter of
Skinwalker Ranch. We're inbound.
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I'm Brandon Fugal,
the owner of Skinwalker Ranch.
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I'm really excited to pull
together the team today.
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Every time that
we enter the ranch,
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there are new discoveries and
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sometimes new
dangers that arise.
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We've seen more evidence of
the reality of the phenomenon,
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and we are committed
to getting the answers.
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Here we come in
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for our landing at the
Skinwalker Ranch helipad.
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The
revelation that Dr. Taylor
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had been acting
as the chief scientist
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for the Pentagon's
UAP Task Force
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came as a shock to all of us.
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I think we're still processing
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the reality of what that means.
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I found it to be intriguing.
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I found it to be confirmation
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that we are truly
on to something.
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- Hey.
- Welcome back.
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- Good to see you, friend.
- You, too.
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Hey, Kaleb. Oh,
it's good to be back.
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We're ready to kick off
another phase of this investigation.
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It's always good to see
my good friend Brandon,
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and we're excited
to get him up to date
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on what we've been doing.
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- Is the team assembled?
- Yep.
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Great.
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Today, we kick off
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the new research
investigation this summer.
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I left last year being
pretty disturbed
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about some of the
things that I witnessed,
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and so, I wonder, you
know, what lies ahead
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and what crazy things are
we gonna experience this year?
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Let's proceed. We've got
a-a big day ahead of us.
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And an exciting time to kick off
this phase of the investigation.
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- Great to have Dr. Taylor back.
- Thank you.
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We had some
interesting surprises over the last weeks
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with Dr. Taylor,
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the former chief scientist for
the Pentagon's UAP Task Force.
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Uh, it would be great to
hear you shed some light on
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your role and how that has, uh,
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impacted our
investigation and-and how
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that may influence
things moving forward.
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Sure. Uh,
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well, so it started in a way
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that you'd be
surprised, actually.
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So, that first summer,
back in 2019, I guess it was,
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there were some, uh,
signals that we had measured,
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that I was concerned, uh,
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was a national
security implication, and
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it was this 1.6
gigahertz signal.
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Really?
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Erik, are you doing
something at 1.6?
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I'm not broadcasting.
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Over the past three years,
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we've repeatedly detected
an energy frequency measuring
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1.6 gigahertz...
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What-what the heck is that?
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Which we've suspected could be
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some kind of
communication signal.
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Now, normal human technology
like cell phones and radios
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don't typically operate
at that frequency.
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So, with all the bizarre
phenomena we've seen out here,
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I wondered who or what
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could be broadcasting that
signal out here on the ranch.
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I went to the Pentagon to brief,
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to find out if this was
us doing it or if it was
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somebody else doing it.
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Foreign adversaries
that may be involved.
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Yes, and-and I had...
So, I had to report it
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to the right officials.
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So, I went to a room
in the Pentagon,
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and I, uh, I briefed, uh,
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what I'd seen, and then this guy
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comes into the
room, and, uh, he asks
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everybody else but me to leave.
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And he said, "I'm the director
of the UAP Task Force.
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"This is very interesting,
and what I'd like to do is invite
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"you to, uh, come on-on
board and be the chief scientist
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for the Task Force."
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And he presented me
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to both Congress
and the White House
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as the chief scientist
of the Task Force,
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and, uh, and it wasn't until
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he and I both retired
within the last six months,
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and, uh, we were
approved to r-reveal
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that we actually were a
part of that-that Task Force.
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Interesting.
Were they able
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to shed light on
whether we're dealing
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with a foreign
adversary or the nature
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of what we're recording
here at Skinwalker Ranch?
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So, according
to the charter written
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in the National Defense
Authorization Act,
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they had to tell us if they
were doing something.
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Turns out it's not
us, it's not anybody
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that we know of, so what is it?
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I know a lot of our team members
have been really concerned
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that they weren't
actually privy to your role.
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Yeah, well,
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you know, I was bound by an
oath and legal, uh, requirements.
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I could not say it.
If I would've said it,
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I'd have gone to jail.
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Right? I can tell you
now that, uh, I'm in
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the private sector, and I see
this as a huge opportunity here.
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That, uh, hopefully, we'll see
assets come available for us.
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- Well, it has to be reciprocal.
- I agree.
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- This has to be a give-and-take.
- Yeah.
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Especially when
we're dealing with
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- such sensitive material.
- I agree.
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It was hard for
me to keep information
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from everyone on
the ranch because
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it's critical that we act
and feel like a team.
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But I also completely
understand why the government
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needed me to keep
some things confidential.
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Thankfully, now that I've
left the UAP Task Force,
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there will be no
more need for secrets.
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I can say from, uh, my
personal, uh, experience here,
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and from, uh, what we've,
uh, uncovered and investigated,
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this is a hot spot that, uh,
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everybody's looking at, and-and
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they wish they had
the access that we have
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on the daily basis to do
the tests and measurements.
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So, if I'm correct here,
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it was the work that
you started doing here
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that led to your opportunity
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- to be part of...
- That's right.
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That's coming from the guy
that told us we were all nuts
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when we first invited
you to come out here.
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I knew you were gonna say that.
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Just saying, I love it.
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Dr. Taylor's involvement
with the UAP Task Force,
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this is of course a revelation.
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It doesn't really
change my outlook
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on his contributions here,
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but I also welcome any
insights that may have come out
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of his involvement with
the UAP Task Force.
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So, Erik, what would you
propose as far as experiments?
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We've got a lot of
planned activities.
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Um, some of them based
in the work that we did
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the last time we
were all together.
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One of the big
findings, of course, was
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what was inside that mesa.
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Right.
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And what did we pull out? Metal.
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Right. It's an aerospace-style,
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manufactured material,
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not something that
happens naturally.
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Yeah.
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Last year,
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while drilling horizontally
into the mesa...
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Wow, look at all the metal.
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We extracted
pieces of metal from a massive,
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dome-shaped object that
the drill couldn't penetrate.
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You did the analysis of the, uh,
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samples that we sent?
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- Yes, we did.
- Ah.
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And when we had them
analyzed at the University of Utah,
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we found out that they
were composed of a mixture
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of elements that NASA used
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as a protective coating
on the space shuttles.
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So, one of our
main goals this year
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is to determine just
what could be buried
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inside that mesa.
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I think one of the ways
we get answers to the mesa
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is to do a different
kind of survey,
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and I'm thinking
ground-penetrating radar.
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So, we have a GPR capability
that we're going to deploy
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this year, which is gonna
allow us to kind of paint
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that whole area and
see down into the ground
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and see if maybe
there is a big, a big void
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like we've had described to us.
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Excellent.
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Also, I want to continue
expanding the effort
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out into the
homestead, of course,
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but also, we have
this opportunity
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right out there at the triangle.
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Yeah.
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Over the past three years,
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we've been perplexed by a zone
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about a mile above a place
on the ranch we call the triangle.
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We've got liftoff.
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Oh, my God, during
launch, the electromagnetic spectrum
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is going crazy, guys. I've
never seen anything like it.
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We've detected
the 1.6 gigahertz signal there,
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and we've seen rockets
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and lasers deflected
by some invisible
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force or object.
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So, I'm showing radar
altimeter, it's showing
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we're only 40 feet above
the ground right now.
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We also took
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Brandon's helicopter
up there to scan it
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and had a shadowy UAP fly
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back and forth about
40 feet below us.
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- See that?
- My gosh.
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And last year...
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Here.
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This thing's really
clipping along.
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Oh, my gosh.
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It disappeared.
Can you replay that?
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We watched a
UAP ascend from the mesa
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toward that mile-high zone
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and then just
vanish into thin air.
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Are we seeing portals open?
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- Yeah.
- Brandon's not crazy
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to mention portals.
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People, including scientists,
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have reported seeing
portals here for years.
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I just don't know what
to make of all that yet.
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There's a level of
anomalous phenomena
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happening over the
triangle that, somehow,
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we need a better handle on.
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That begs the question, then.
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- How do we follow up?
- So, I'm contemplating
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a new experiment, you
know, taking a-a slam scanner,
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a LIDAR-based device, up
into the air with the helicopter.
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That's a good idea.
You know, it would be nice to have
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a really good LIDAR
measurement at altitude,
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at 5,000 feet, right over
the center of the triangle.
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Could we do that
with a helicopter?
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How heavy is this equipment?
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Well, it's-it's handheld. It's
a handheld LIDAR device.
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- Yeah.
- So, we'll open the doors,
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and-and fly around
the perimetry of it,
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holding the LIDAR
out the edge of the door
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and-and mapping as
we go. It takes its own
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GPS information,
which will be interesting
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if it gets anomalous
behavior from that.
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So, while members of the
team are out there conducting
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these experiments, I think
it would be smart to have
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Tom and Kandus and Jim
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move out to the
community in order
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to interview those who will
bring additional information
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and experiences to light.
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I'm actually
finding the community,
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uh, willing to embrace us.
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I think a lot of it is
because of the credibility
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that we bring to the table.
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Yeah, so we are excited.
302
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We have a lot of leads in
the community this year.
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- Yeah, so that stigma is breaking down...
- Mm-hmm.
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Like we've-we've said,
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and it is easier to get
people to-to speak.
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Well, for you,
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for Jim and you,
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thank you for building
those relationships.
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Yeah, thank you.
You bet. Thank you.
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Thank you, everyone, for
your continued hard work.
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We all have our marching orders.
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Let's press onward.
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- Thank you.
- Thanks, Brandon.
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Fantastic. Let's get to work,
guys. We got a lot to do.
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Hey, fellas.
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Finally meeting the
great Pete Kelsey.
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- Finally meeting you.
- Thank you.
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After our first meeting,
technologist Pete Kelsey arrived
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to help us with
our first experiment
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of the year at the triangle.
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Over the last couple of years,
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he's brought in numerous
scanning devices
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that have detected a lot of
phenomena all across the ranch.
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00:14:04,042 --> 00:14:06,833
So, what do we have here?
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That is the Hovermap.
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Um, basically, handheld LIDAR.
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I'm gonna strap
myself to your helicopter
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and see what we get.
329
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Are you saying you're
going to literally hang outside
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the helicopter and scan
the space with this device?
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With your permission, of course.
332
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Okay.
333
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As Cameron Fugal
flies me and Pete Kelsey
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up through the triangle,
Pete will be strapped in
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and scanning the area
with a LIDAR device.
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It works by emitting
infrared laser light
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00:14:40,375 --> 00:14:42,375
that we hope will
reveal anything
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that can't be seen
with the naked eye,
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00:14:45,083 --> 00:14:47,958
and might help
explain all the UAPs
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and other phenomena
we've detected up there.
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00:14:50,375 --> 00:14:53,833
So, that is the first part
of our exercise today.
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- There's a second part.
- What's that?
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Erik's gonna turn on a broadcast
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of the 1.6 gigahertz
signal. Right?
345
00:15:01,917 --> 00:15:05,500
Then, when we get to
5,000 feet, these guys
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are gonna launch a rocket
347
00:15:07,625 --> 00:15:09,583
from here. Now, it's gonna go up
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probably to about 1,500
feet, no more than 2,000 feet.
349
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I-I feel comfortable with that.
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Now, uh, isn't... aren't rockets
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and broadcasting at 1.6 how
you make things happen here?
352
00:15:21,958 --> 00:15:22,833
Yeah.
353
00:15:22,917 --> 00:15:24,667
Now, the first part
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of our exercise today
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is an area on the eastern
side of the property
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where we've seen anomalous
data in our photogrammetry,
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00:15:31,833 --> 00:15:33,833
- suggestive of something.
- Yeah.
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Pete, you caught
this with your first scan
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with the photogrammetry.
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Now, you get to go hover
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above it in a helicopter and see
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00:15:39,958 --> 00:15:41,458
if you can catch
it with your LIDAR.
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The east field is a location
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about a half a mile
from the triangle
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where some of the strangest
things have happened
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during our investigation.
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Spinning up.
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Right at the end of last year,
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Pete conducted a photogrammetry
scan in the east field
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near a mysterious
circle of stones
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that sits up on the mesa.
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00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:04,333
According to Navajo
historian Jon Dover,
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ancient Indigenous
people created the feature
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00:16:07,292 --> 00:16:10,458
to represent a portal
on Skinwalker Ranch.
375
00:16:10,542 --> 00:16:11,292
Whoa.
376
00:16:11,417 --> 00:16:12,292
- Okay.
- In the sky.
377
00:16:12,417 --> 00:16:13,434
- Right there.
- Yes.
378
00:16:13,458 --> 00:16:15,750
- Oh, weird.
- Yes.
379
00:16:15,875 --> 00:16:19,958
Well, what Pete's
scanner detected just blew us away.
380
00:16:20,083 --> 00:16:23,333
- Look at this structure.
- That's nuts.
381
00:16:23,458 --> 00:16:25,333
Well, just think
about what it would mean
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00:16:25,458 --> 00:16:28,000
if we saw the same
kind of anomaly
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00:16:28,125 --> 00:16:30,583
with two completely
different technologies.
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00:16:30,708 --> 00:16:31,792
Yeah, yeah.
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00:16:31,917 --> 00:16:36,250
Well, let's go ahead and,
uh, commence the experiment.
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00:16:36,375 --> 00:16:39,208
- What all goes? Everything?
- Everything.
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00:16:39,375 --> 00:16:41,417
It's generally true,
in science, that we place
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00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:44,000
the highest confidence in
results that repeat themselves.
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00:16:44,125 --> 00:16:46,333
So, as we survey
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00:16:46,417 --> 00:16:47,917
just over the east field here
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00:16:48,042 --> 00:16:50,125
and in the vicinity
of the triangle...
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00:16:50,208 --> 00:16:51,375
- Thank you.
- You bet.
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00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:53,000
We want to understand
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whether we're dealing
with a persistent effect
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00:16:56,042 --> 00:16:59,458
in those two regions of the
ranch because we have no idea.
396
00:16:59,583 --> 00:17:02,000
All right, so let's
figure out what hardpoint we want
397
00:17:02,125 --> 00:17:03,917
- to snap to.
- Okay, let's go around.
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00:17:04,042 --> 00:17:06,125
While Pete scans
with his LIDAR device
399
00:17:06,208 --> 00:17:07,875
out the open door
of the helicopter,
400
00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,417
I'll be right beside him
watching the monitor
401
00:17:10,542 --> 00:17:13,667
to see if the LIDAR picks
up any structure or objects.
402
00:17:13,792 --> 00:17:17,292
Let me have that rocket
motor and that igniter.
403
00:17:17,417 --> 00:17:19,625
Meanwhile,
Dragon, Kaleb and Thomas
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00:17:19,708 --> 00:17:22,083
will be on the ready
to launch rockets.
405
00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:25,292
They'll also be broadcasting
the 1.6 gigahertz
406
00:17:25,375 --> 00:17:28,708
communication signal that
we've recorded in the past...
407
00:17:28,875 --> 00:17:32,167
- All right, well, we're all set up in here.
- Great.
408
00:17:32,292 --> 00:17:34,500
Which Erik and
Brandon will be monitoring
409
00:17:34,583 --> 00:17:36,792
on his systems
during the experiment.
410
00:17:36,875 --> 00:17:40,000
Both of these tools have been
very effective in stimulating
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00:17:40,125 --> 00:17:42,500
bizarre activity on
the ranch in the past,
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00:17:42,667 --> 00:17:45,042
so, hopefully, by
the end of today,
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00:17:45,167 --> 00:17:47,500
we'll get some answers
about these locations.
414
00:17:47,667 --> 00:17:49,000
Hey, guys,
415
00:17:49,125 --> 00:17:51,125
uh, we're ready to
go in the chopper.
416
00:17:51,208 --> 00:17:54,333
All right, copy that. You
guys be careful up there.
417
00:17:54,458 --> 00:17:55,667
We don't want to lose Pete.
418
00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:58,750
We've got him tied in
with four different ways.
419
00:17:58,875 --> 00:18:00,542
Everything's checked.
420
00:18:00,667 --> 00:18:03,292
This year, the first
experiment we're gonna try
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00:18:03,375 --> 00:18:06,167
involves having one our experts
hanging out of a helicopter.
422
00:18:06,292 --> 00:18:07,667
I don't know what's
gonna happen,
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00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:10,417
but this is a pretty
dangerous experiment,
424
00:18:10,542 --> 00:18:12,625
and I hope it
yields some results.
425
00:18:12,750 --> 00:18:14,375
Here we go. Hang on, Pete.
426
00:18:23,875 --> 00:18:25,958
First, go hit
the east field, okay?
427
00:18:26,042 --> 00:18:27,167
All right.
428
00:18:27,292 --> 00:18:29,667
Now, we're tracking.
429
00:18:29,792 --> 00:18:33,542
Hopefully, we'll be able to
capture something interesting.
430
00:18:33,708 --> 00:18:35,292
Yeah, every time
Pete's been out here,
431
00:18:35,417 --> 00:18:36,684
something interesting
has happened.
432
00:18:36,708 --> 00:18:38,250
Well, this will be good.
433
00:18:38,375 --> 00:18:42,625
Activity is unpredictable
at Skinwalker Ranch.
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00:18:42,750 --> 00:18:46,167
But we've found that
there are certain methods
435
00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:49,583
that you can utilize in
order to stimulate response.
436
00:18:49,708 --> 00:18:54,042
This very aggressive
experiment is an important part
437
00:18:54,167 --> 00:18:56,208
of this stage of the
investigation and we are
438
00:18:56,333 --> 00:18:58,542
committed to
getting the answers.
439
00:19:00,958 --> 00:19:03,542
Bryant, I just turned it on.
440
00:19:03,708 --> 00:19:07,500
Will you radio Erik and
see if they're seeing it?
441
00:19:07,583 --> 00:19:09,333
Erik,
442
00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:14,042
Thomas has just
turned on the 1.6.
443
00:19:14,208 --> 00:19:16,333
Just confirming if you
can see that signal or not.
444
00:19:16,458 --> 00:19:18,000
Yeah, I've got good signal.
445
00:19:18,167 --> 00:19:20,000
Terrific.
446
00:19:20,083 --> 00:19:23,083
Well, we're
broadcasting the 1.6, so...
447
00:19:23,208 --> 00:19:26,792
we'll see if that
causes any reaction.
448
00:19:28,792 --> 00:19:30,500
All right, the east field.
449
00:19:30,583 --> 00:19:33,292
We should be about
over it right in here.
450
00:19:33,417 --> 00:19:34,750
Okay.
451
00:19:34,875 --> 00:19:36,917
- All right, I'm gonna start scanning.
- Yup.
452
00:19:37,042 --> 00:19:38,750
- All right.
- Okay.
453
00:19:40,083 --> 00:19:42,250
All right, nice and
easy, Cameron.
454
00:19:42,375 --> 00:19:44,667
All right, we're going.
455
00:19:44,792 --> 00:19:47,458
I see the ground.
456
00:19:54,583 --> 00:19:59,000
We're getting buffeted
from the wind a little bit.
457
00:19:59,083 --> 00:20:03,333
But there's no freaking wind.
458
00:20:03,458 --> 00:20:06,250
- Whoa! Whoa!
- Whoa!
459
00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:07,625
We're getting our asses kicked.
460
00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:14,708
Feel that, that's just crazy.
461
00:20:16,625 --> 00:20:19,500
- Oh, wow! We're getting something.
- What?!
462
00:20:19,625 --> 00:20:23,292
We are getting an
anomaly in the air right now!
463
00:20:23,417 --> 00:20:25,833
- Right there.
- You're kidding!
464
00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:27,750
No, I am not kidding.
465
00:20:34,333 --> 00:20:36,125
We're getting
a significant anomaly
466
00:20:36,208 --> 00:20:38,333
in the air right now.
467
00:20:38,458 --> 00:20:41,250
It was clearly an
anomaly floating in the sky.
468
00:20:41,375 --> 00:20:42,375
I've been following them.
469
00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:43,893
I know, I don't
see anything either.
470
00:20:43,917 --> 00:20:47,167
The helicopter is getting
buffeted out of the way
471
00:20:47,250 --> 00:20:49,500
like there's a vortex
or something here.
472
00:20:51,708 --> 00:20:54,000
This is crazy.
473
00:20:54,083 --> 00:20:57,042
Right where we
obtained photogrammetry images
474
00:20:57,208 --> 00:20:59,208
of a mysterious
column-shaped anomaly
475
00:20:59,375 --> 00:21:01,417
above the east
field one year ago...
476
00:21:02,667 --> 00:21:05,000
There are some very
interesting artifacts showing up.
477
00:21:05,125 --> 00:21:06,875
Whoa.
478
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,125
Pete Kelsey's LIDAR
scanner, which emits infrared light,
479
00:21:10,208 --> 00:21:14,500
detected an image of something
about 300 feet up in the air.
480
00:21:14,583 --> 00:21:17,500
And what was even
crazier was that some kind
481
00:21:17,583 --> 00:21:20,667
of invisible force
was literally pushing
482
00:21:20,792 --> 00:21:23,583
Brandon's helicopter
around in midair.
483
00:21:25,208 --> 00:21:27,125
It looks like it's
being pushed around
484
00:21:27,208 --> 00:21:29,583
from the ground right now.
485
00:21:30,542 --> 00:21:32,792
They're getting pushed around.
486
00:21:32,917 --> 00:21:35,333
You can see the
helicopter, like, rocking.
487
00:21:35,458 --> 00:21:38,125
And I'm picking
up nothing just visually.
488
00:21:38,250 --> 00:21:39,708
Wow!
489
00:21:44,458 --> 00:21:45,498
What the hell is going on?
490
00:21:45,542 --> 00:21:47,417
- You see how he's moving?
- Yeah.
491
00:21:48,542 --> 00:21:51,000
Oh, my gosh, you
can see. Look at that.
492
00:21:54,542 --> 00:21:56,262
The helicopter
definitely looks like
493
00:21:56,333 --> 00:21:57,750
it's rocking around down here.
494
00:22:01,833 --> 00:22:03,542
The outside wind speeds
495
00:22:03,667 --> 00:22:05,917
that registered on the
helicopter's instruments
496
00:22:06,042 --> 00:22:07,458
were totally insignificant.
497
00:22:07,542 --> 00:22:10,542
It was just this
strange, invisible force
498
00:22:10,667 --> 00:22:13,667
that we couldn't see
pushing us around.
499
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:16,375
I have no scientific
explanation for it.
500
00:22:16,542 --> 00:22:18,583
I just know it's where we saw
501
00:22:18,708 --> 00:22:21,667
a column-shaped anomaly
above the stone circle last year
502
00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:24,042
and now an object of some kind
503
00:22:24,208 --> 00:22:25,667
on the LIDAR readout.
504
00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:27,625
I think we're good.
We've got a really nice
505
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:29,250
3D map of the entire area.
506
00:22:29,375 --> 00:22:31,167
- Cameron, I think we're good.
- Okay.
507
00:22:31,292 --> 00:22:33,792
I say we fly
right by the triangle.
508
00:22:33,875 --> 00:22:35,042
Yep.
509
00:22:49,917 --> 00:22:51,837
I couldn't believe
what had happened to us
510
00:22:51,875 --> 00:22:54,375
over the east field
and the preliminary data
511
00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:56,000
we got on Pete's LIDAR scanner.
512
00:22:56,167 --> 00:22:57,833
It still needed to be processed,
513
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,208
but based on our
experiences so far,
514
00:23:00,333 --> 00:23:01,625
we were really anxious
515
00:23:01,708 --> 00:23:04,208
about what we might
find above the triangle.
516
00:23:04,375 --> 00:23:06,000
I mean, we're at
the triangle right now.
517
00:23:06,125 --> 00:23:09,000
All right, so give
me about ten seconds
518
00:23:09,167 --> 00:23:11,333
and we'll be scanning.
519
00:23:11,458 --> 00:23:13,250
Uh, it's running, it says.
520
00:23:13,375 --> 00:23:16,042
Are you seeing data then?
521
00:23:16,167 --> 00:23:17,250
Nothing yet.
522
00:23:17,375 --> 00:23:21,375
Holy cow, there's something
right outside the aircraft.
523
00:23:21,542 --> 00:23:23,542
- You're kidding!
- No, I am not kidding.
524
00:23:23,708 --> 00:23:24,792
You were at 300 feet
525
00:23:24,875 --> 00:23:27,042
and were detecting
an object in the air.
526
00:23:27,167 --> 00:23:28,417
What?!
527
00:23:31,250 --> 00:23:32,333
Copy you, Cameron.
528
00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:33,917
You've got to be kidding me.
529
00:23:34,042 --> 00:23:37,208
We are about 300
feet above ground level.
530
00:23:37,375 --> 00:23:38,684
You can see the
green is the ground
531
00:23:38,708 --> 00:23:39,792
and the red is the thing.
532
00:23:39,917 --> 00:23:42,208
- This is unbelievable.
- Unbelievable.
533
00:23:42,375 --> 00:23:44,393
In the past, all the
phenomena we've detected
534
00:23:44,417 --> 00:23:48,250
above the triangle has been
nearly a mile up in the air.
535
00:23:48,375 --> 00:23:49,958
But as soon as
Pete started scanning
536
00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:52,917
with the LIDAR, he
detected something strange
537
00:23:53,042 --> 00:23:56,000
beginning at an altitude
of just about 300 feet.
538
00:23:56,125 --> 00:23:58,500
We had never seen
anything at the triangle
539
00:23:58,625 --> 00:24:00,250
that close to the ground before.
540
00:24:00,375 --> 00:24:02,167
They're climbing.
541
00:24:02,250 --> 00:24:06,250
I don't know why, but I feel
really nervous about this.
542
00:24:17,125 --> 00:24:20,125
It froze up, Pete.
It's checking something.
543
00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:21,917
Nah, it's scanning.
544
00:24:22,042 --> 00:24:24,125
Yeah, well, it's telling
me that it's checking.
545
00:24:24,208 --> 00:24:25,500
It's not writing any more data.
546
00:24:25,583 --> 00:24:27,167
All right, stand by.
547
00:24:34,917 --> 00:24:38,125
No, it says it's
disconnected, which is odd.
548
00:24:38,208 --> 00:24:42,000
Disconnected? That
doesn't make any sense.
549
00:24:42,083 --> 00:24:43,667
Wow, that's weird.
550
00:24:43,792 --> 00:24:46,792
Hey, well, your GPS is
off from your pressure.
551
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,667
We're-we're getting
discrepancies, right now.
552
00:24:59,750 --> 00:25:01,590
Command Center, how
you doing? This is Cameron.
553
00:25:03,583 --> 00:25:05,167
So the ground went away.
554
00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:07,667
It was green and now
the ground's turned red.
555
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:12,083
And, uh, the anomaly
above it is-is still red.
556
00:25:12,208 --> 00:25:13,893
I think we need to set
down and reset this thing.
557
00:25:13,917 --> 00:25:14,917
Okay.
558
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,958
All right, I'm
going to stop scanning.
559
00:25:22,375 --> 00:25:23,518
Uh...
560
00:25:23,542 --> 00:25:25,042
Whoa.
561
00:25:26,375 --> 00:25:28,000
Oh, my goodness.
562
00:25:28,125 --> 00:25:29,125
Whoa.
563
00:25:42,750 --> 00:25:44,917
Why'd they land in the field?
564
00:25:46,125 --> 00:25:47,667
Radio them.
565
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:49,958
Travis, do you copy?
566
00:25:56,667 --> 00:26:00,167
Hey, Erik, do you copy
inside the Command Center?
567
00:26:00,292 --> 00:26:01,958
Yes, I do. What's up?
568
00:26:02,083 --> 00:26:03,603
I want to reach out to Cameron.
569
00:26:03,708 --> 00:26:05,188
They ended up
landing out in the field
570
00:26:05,292 --> 00:26:07,167
for some odd reason.
571
00:26:07,250 --> 00:26:08,583
In the field?
572
00:26:24,208 --> 00:26:26,333
We're reset, we're
about to relaunch
573
00:26:26,417 --> 00:26:27,417
and go do it again.
574
00:26:27,458 --> 00:26:29,042
Copy that.
575
00:26:29,167 --> 00:26:31,625
We'll keep our
eyes on you as well.
576
00:26:46,167 --> 00:26:47,167
Yep.
577
00:26:48,958 --> 00:26:50,417
Understood.
578
00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:54,000
After we finished our LIDAR
scan above the east field,
579
00:26:54,125 --> 00:26:57,167
we were eager to head
southwest to the triangle.
580
00:26:59,042 --> 00:27:02,167
- All right, I'm going to start scanning.
- Yep.
581
00:27:02,292 --> 00:27:03,958
Just let me know
when you've got data.
582
00:27:04,083 --> 00:27:05,250
We're getting data right now,
583
00:27:05,375 --> 00:27:08,750
there is something
right outside the aircraft.
584
00:27:11,542 --> 00:27:13,625
As soon as we
approached the triangle,
585
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:16,292
we started detecting
some kind of anomaly again
586
00:27:16,417 --> 00:27:18,500
right around 300 feet high.
587
00:27:18,625 --> 00:27:19,750
I was getting really anxious
588
00:27:19,875 --> 00:27:22,083
about what was
going to happen next.
589
00:27:24,167 --> 00:27:26,792
Just start spiraling
up, Cameron.
590
00:27:37,583 --> 00:27:39,208
Copy you, Cameron.
591
00:27:51,583 --> 00:27:53,375
- Holy cow!
- What, what, what?
592
00:27:53,542 --> 00:27:54,833
Look at that.
593
00:27:56,375 --> 00:27:57,833
- You see it?
- Yes.
594
00:27:57,917 --> 00:27:59,375
We've got an anomaly,
595
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:02,958
a clear anomaly right beside us.
596
00:28:04,208 --> 00:28:06,958
We've had eyes on it with
three sets of binoculars
597
00:28:07,042 --> 00:28:08,708
and we've seen nothing.
598
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,708
Uh, we at 5,000 feet?
599
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,250
We're almost there.
600
00:28:22,792 --> 00:28:24,250
Tell them to launch.
601
00:28:26,375 --> 00:28:28,833
Right as we
reached the mile-high zone,
602
00:28:28,917 --> 00:28:31,417
this huge mass showed
up on the LIDAR,
603
00:28:31,542 --> 00:28:34,000
and with the 1.6 gigahertz
signal being broadcast,
604
00:28:34,167 --> 00:28:36,167
it was time to launch a rocket
605
00:28:36,250 --> 00:28:38,125
and poke this nest
as hard as we could.
606
00:28:39,375 --> 00:28:42,750
Three, two, one!
607
00:28:45,208 --> 00:28:46,292
There it goes!
608
00:29:00,208 --> 00:29:01,542
Yeah.
609
00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:14,167
Which is what
we've seen before, Cameron.
610
00:29:14,333 --> 00:29:15,792
Right here.
611
00:29:41,542 --> 00:29:42,583
Wow.
612
00:29:47,042 --> 00:29:49,208
- Whoa! Whoa!
- Whoa!
613
00:29:52,167 --> 00:29:53,333
There you go.
614
00:29:59,917 --> 00:30:01,208
Wow.
615
00:30:27,625 --> 00:30:29,065
Yeah, we got a
downdraft right there.
616
00:30:29,167 --> 00:30:30,934
- A little ass kick there.
- Yeah, yeah.
617
00:30:30,958 --> 00:30:32,018
As we approached
the mile-high zone
618
00:30:32,042 --> 00:30:33,375
above the triangle,
619
00:30:33,542 --> 00:30:37,667
where we saw a UAP literally
disappear one year ago,
620
00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:39,833
really strange winds
started encircling
621
00:30:39,958 --> 00:30:41,583
the helicopter like a vortex.
622
00:30:41,708 --> 00:30:43,042
It really made me nervous
623
00:30:43,208 --> 00:30:45,792
about what the hell
we were flying into.
624
00:30:45,917 --> 00:30:47,250
Yeah, I think
it's time to abort.
625
00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:54,208
Copy you, Cameron.
We will clear the helipad.
626
00:30:54,375 --> 00:30:57,042
It's exciting to
see that we're getting
627
00:30:57,167 --> 00:30:58,447
interesting returns in real time
628
00:30:58,542 --> 00:31:02,000
over the east field
and over the triangle.
629
00:31:02,083 --> 00:31:03,500
- Pretty wild.
- Holy crap.
630
00:31:03,583 --> 00:31:06,875
I really want to know are these
real features that we're seeing?
631
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,625
Shake my hand.
632
00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:09,958
Heck yeah.
633
00:31:10,042 --> 00:31:12,125
Wow, you guys.
634
00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:14,875
Y'all are not
going to believe this.
635
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,000
Well, Pete's
face has me thinking
636
00:31:17,083 --> 00:31:19,000
you guys caught
something amazing.
637
00:31:19,125 --> 00:31:20,000
What did you see?
638
00:31:20,125 --> 00:31:21,165
There is an anomaly
639
00:31:21,250 --> 00:31:23,208
that this LIDAR
picked up in midair!
640
00:31:23,375 --> 00:31:26,083
300 or 400 feet
above the ground.
641
00:31:26,208 --> 00:31:28,750
It's impossible.
It's impossible.
642
00:31:28,875 --> 00:31:30,208
It remained there, too.
643
00:31:30,375 --> 00:31:32,583
It wasn't a quick
blip. As we circled
644
00:31:32,708 --> 00:31:34,167
and made orbits, it-it remained.
645
00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:36,458
Let's process the data
as soon as possible.
646
00:31:36,542 --> 00:31:39,292
Cameron and I want a full
report at earliest convenience.
647
00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:41,042
Well, we got to go
crunch some data.
648
00:31:41,167 --> 00:31:42,208
- Yes, we do.
- Okay.
649
00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:45,208
- Yeah, let's go.
- Let's get on that data!
650
00:31:45,375 --> 00:31:46,851
- Yeah.
- I want to take this harness off!
651
00:31:46,875 --> 00:31:48,333
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
652
00:31:53,375 --> 00:31:56,000
Well, guys, we've got
Brandon and Cameron and Pete
653
00:31:56,083 --> 00:31:57,163
on the line for video call.
654
00:31:57,208 --> 00:31:58,375
Oh, yeah.
655
00:31:58,542 --> 00:31:59,458
Hey, Brandon.
656
00:31:59,542 --> 00:32:00,667
Hey, greetings.
657
00:32:00,792 --> 00:32:02,250
It's good to be with you.
658
00:32:02,375 --> 00:32:04,250
Pete Kelsey
spent two days processing
659
00:32:04,375 --> 00:32:06,500
all the LIDAR data we collected
660
00:32:06,583 --> 00:32:08,417
above the east
field and the triangle,
661
00:32:08,542 --> 00:32:10,708
so we couldn't wait to review
it with him and Brandon.
662
00:32:10,833 --> 00:32:14,292
We needed to figure out
what we'd encountered up there
663
00:32:14,417 --> 00:32:15,976
that had affected
the helicopter's flight
664
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,083
and controls so dramatically.
665
00:32:18,208 --> 00:32:21,833
This is the data
from the helicopter flight.
666
00:32:22,542 --> 00:32:25,125
So here we
are over the east field.
667
00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:29,500
What you're seeing,
the icon of course is us.
668
00:32:29,625 --> 00:32:32,917
The magenta line
is our trajectory,
669
00:32:33,042 --> 00:32:35,500
that is the direction
we're flying.
670
00:32:35,625 --> 00:32:38,917
And we can see that the
data is following the aircraft.
671
00:32:39,042 --> 00:32:42,250
Something about it
that was... oh, right there it did...
672
00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:44,250
See how it's doing
these zigzag jumps?
673
00:32:44,375 --> 00:32:46,000
Something moved the helicopter.
674
00:32:46,167 --> 00:32:47,333
It-it was unbelievable.
675
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:50,458
I mean, we were all like,
"Whoa! What was that?!"
676
00:32:50,542 --> 00:32:52,958
It wasn't just left
and right oscillations,
677
00:32:53,042 --> 00:32:54,333
it was forward and aft,
678
00:32:54,417 --> 00:32:56,875
left and right all
almost simultaneous.
679
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,500
It was as if you had two magnets
680
00:32:59,583 --> 00:33:01,500
next to each other,
repelling each other.
681
00:33:01,583 --> 00:33:03,667
Whatever it was, it
was trying to push us off.
682
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:05,667
You know, I think that
has to mean something.
683
00:33:05,792 --> 00:33:06,958
That's right.
684
00:33:07,042 --> 00:33:09,083
Now I'll call your
attention to...
685
00:33:09,208 --> 00:33:13,417
We have anomalous data
in the same general area.
686
00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:17,833
So, here we
are over the east field.
687
00:33:17,958 --> 00:33:19,375
Oh, wow.
688
00:33:19,542 --> 00:33:21,143
This is right where I
had the interference
689
00:33:21,167 --> 00:33:23,500
- with the helicopter as well, isn't it?
- Yes.
690
00:33:23,583 --> 00:33:26,833
And-and there's
where I said you know what?
691
00:33:26,958 --> 00:33:28,750
We've got an anomaly
in the spot again.
692
00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:32,500
- This red feature.
- That red feature floating in midair.
693
00:33:32,625 --> 00:33:34,833
Above... And
there's no trail to it.
694
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,750
Be advised, I should
disclose some issues
695
00:33:37,875 --> 00:33:39,667
with this first scan.
696
00:33:39,792 --> 00:33:43,333
This is the incredibly
frustrating part.
697
00:33:43,458 --> 00:33:45,125
I've spoken with the vendor,
698
00:33:45,250 --> 00:33:47,667
I mean, we've gone
through it at length.
699
00:33:47,792 --> 00:33:51,542
The vendor looked at this and
went, "Nah, you're ghosting."
700
00:33:51,667 --> 00:33:55,000
And ghosting is just...
701
00:33:55,167 --> 00:33:59,292
the scanner picking up
probably my feet, the skid.
702
00:33:59,375 --> 00:34:01,875
Well, I would
just expect consistency.
703
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,351
You know, if you're
picking up returns
704
00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:04,935
from the blades
above or the skid below,
705
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,143
then I would expect to see
that through the whole thing,
706
00:34:07,167 --> 00:34:10,833
- but the fact that you're only seeing it over one point...
- Yeah.
707
00:34:10,917 --> 00:34:16,208
What is it about this ranch
that continues to throw us off?
708
00:34:17,875 --> 00:34:20,515
It was really sobering to
all of us to hear from Pete Kelsey
709
00:34:20,583 --> 00:34:23,125
that the LIDAR data might
not have been accurate.
710
00:34:23,208 --> 00:34:25,458
But there were
certain things about it
711
00:34:25,583 --> 00:34:27,625
that just couldn't
be explained away.
712
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:30,417
Pete, go forward, let me...
I'll tell you when to stop.
713
00:34:30,542 --> 00:34:32,750
Go forward about... Right
there, right there. Stop.
714
00:34:32,875 --> 00:34:34,167
Now, when you look at that,
715
00:34:34,292 --> 00:34:37,083
this is right dead center over
716
00:34:37,208 --> 00:34:38,708
where the column was there
717
00:34:38,833 --> 00:34:40,917
in your photogrammetry data.
718
00:34:41,042 --> 00:34:42,792
And-and if you look,
719
00:34:42,875 --> 00:34:44,917
there's no pathway to it,
720
00:34:45,042 --> 00:34:49,958
it's not anomalous
features until that spot.
721
00:34:50,042 --> 00:34:51,042
Wow.
722
00:34:51,167 --> 00:34:52,917
In the exact same spot
723
00:34:53,042 --> 00:34:54,125
where we identified
724
00:34:54,208 --> 00:34:56,500
the column-like
anomaly one year ago,
725
00:34:56,583 --> 00:34:59,750
we now have a second
kind of scanning technology
726
00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:02,958
that seems to be detecting
something strange again.
727
00:35:03,042 --> 00:35:05,875
If you can back up
two frames, Pete.
728
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,458
Stop! Perfect. Look at that.
729
00:35:09,542 --> 00:35:11,417
I-I'm gonna go to the screen
730
00:35:12,875 --> 00:35:15,000
So, come on, guys, we've got...
731
00:35:15,167 --> 00:35:16,833
some kind of wing-like features.
732
00:35:16,917 --> 00:35:17,958
I mean, you look at that,
733
00:35:18,042 --> 00:35:20,333
there's three-dimensional
detail here.
734
00:35:20,458 --> 00:35:22,125
There was nothing there.
735
00:35:22,208 --> 00:35:23,958
We flew a helicopter
and we wouldn't fly
736
00:35:24,083 --> 00:35:25,403
that close to an
object like that.
737
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:27,018
This distance right
here from there to there
738
00:35:27,042 --> 00:35:28,250
is probably ten meters.
739
00:35:28,375 --> 00:35:31,333
Look at it. It tends
to have a shape to it.
740
00:35:31,417 --> 00:35:32,333
Oh, my gosh.
741
00:35:32,417 --> 00:35:33,833
That's actually pretty distinct.
742
00:35:33,958 --> 00:35:36,875
That is compelling.
743
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,583
Now, if we were standing
744
00:35:38,708 --> 00:35:41,917
in the road of the
driveway looking north,
745
00:35:42,042 --> 00:35:43,833
and we took Pete's
photogrammetry data
746
00:35:43,958 --> 00:35:45,018
and overlaid it on this image,
747
00:35:45,042 --> 00:35:47,750
you would see the pillar
748
00:35:47,875 --> 00:35:49,000
come up just like this.
749
00:35:49,083 --> 00:35:51,292
Right where this spot is.
750
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,000
Wow.
751
00:35:58,167 --> 00:35:59,250
In the same spot
752
00:35:59,375 --> 00:36:01,351
where we detected a
column-shaped anomaly last year,
753
00:36:01,375 --> 00:36:02,667
our LIDAR experiment
754
00:36:02,792 --> 00:36:06,333
may have also identified
something strange.
755
00:36:07,250 --> 00:36:08,833
And this is right
near a location
756
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,333
on top of the mesa
757
00:36:10,458 --> 00:36:12,250
where ancient Indigenous people
758
00:36:12,375 --> 00:36:15,208
built a stone monument
that's meant to represent
759
00:36:15,333 --> 00:36:17,583
a portal on Skinwalker Ranch.
760
00:36:17,708 --> 00:36:19,417
What could that be?
761
00:36:19,542 --> 00:36:20,833
We don't know what it is,
762
00:36:20,958 --> 00:36:23,667
but there's something that
was anomalous about that spot,
763
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:27,167
and we got it on multiple
sensors now, at least two.
764
00:36:27,250 --> 00:36:29,167
I'm sitting here just stunned
765
00:36:29,333 --> 00:36:31,417
because, I mean, no matter what,
766
00:36:31,542 --> 00:36:34,792
we're dealing with
something that is a mystery.
767
00:36:34,875 --> 00:36:37,250
And that it's only
over the east field?
768
00:36:37,375 --> 00:36:39,708
Oh, it happened
at the triangle, too.
769
00:36:39,875 --> 00:36:42,375
All right, guys, what
I'm going to bring up now
770
00:36:42,542 --> 00:36:44,417
- is the data at the triangle.
- Yep.
771
00:36:44,542 --> 00:36:48,667
There is what
appears to be ghosting
772
00:36:48,792 --> 00:36:52,208
along the trajectory
that we actually flew.
773
00:36:52,333 --> 00:36:54,583
But why so many in the one spot
774
00:36:54,708 --> 00:36:57,542
as we're, uh, circling
around the triangle?
775
00:36:57,708 --> 00:37:00,750
Well, again, I would
expect if you're seeing, uh,
776
00:37:00,875 --> 00:37:04,208
returns from either
the-the blades above
777
00:37:04,375 --> 00:37:06,000
or the-the skid below,
778
00:37:06,167 --> 00:37:08,292
that it would be consistent
through the whole flight.
779
00:37:08,417 --> 00:37:10,667
But that's the weird
part. Why is it not?
780
00:37:10,750 --> 00:37:15,167
So, I-I'm with you, I
mean, there's no trajectory line
781
00:37:15,292 --> 00:37:17,292
where this first showed
up. You see that?
782
00:37:17,417 --> 00:37:19,333
- Yep.
- To cut to the chase,
783
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:23,833
I don't think this is 100%
conclusive in either direction.
784
00:37:23,958 --> 00:37:25,333
I-I agree with that.
785
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:28,333
Yeah, it is so frustrating,
786
00:37:28,458 --> 00:37:30,583
because it seems
like we're so close
787
00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:34,083
to understanding what
we are dealing with.
788
00:37:34,208 --> 00:37:35,559
We're seeing these
things appearing
789
00:37:35,583 --> 00:37:38,125
that have no
conventional explanation.
790
00:37:38,250 --> 00:37:41,125
It-It's so damn elusive.
791
00:37:41,208 --> 00:37:43,583
I... If there's any way
792
00:37:43,708 --> 00:37:47,292
we can execute on
another experiment
793
00:37:47,417 --> 00:37:49,792
in rapid succession to this,
794
00:37:49,875 --> 00:37:51,708
to seize this moment,
795
00:37:51,875 --> 00:37:55,167
and get some
answers, I say go for it.
796
00:37:55,333 --> 00:37:57,167
Well, uh, first and foremost,
797
00:37:57,292 --> 00:37:58,833
Pete, uh, and Cameron,
798
00:37:58,917 --> 00:38:01,167
the two of you may
recall, but if I recall,
799
00:38:01,292 --> 00:38:03,333
I think we were about, uh...
800
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:06,000
300, 400 feet or
something like that, right?
801
00:38:06,083 --> 00:38:07,500
Seems about right.
802
00:38:07,625 --> 00:38:08,893
There's something new here.
803
00:38:08,917 --> 00:38:11,625
You know, uh, some
of the interesting returns
804
00:38:11,708 --> 00:38:13,292
were happening at
much lower altitudes
805
00:38:13,375 --> 00:38:16,167
than, uh, we've, uh...
806
00:38:16,292 --> 00:38:18,917
- A thousand feet or more lower.
- Right.
807
00:38:19,042 --> 00:38:21,333
During previous
experiments at the triangle,
808
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,333
it seemed that
different phenomena
809
00:38:23,458 --> 00:38:25,375
occurred about 5,000 feet high.
810
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:27,750
But now, if the
LIDAR data is correct,
811
00:38:27,875 --> 00:38:30,083
it appears that something
is going on between
812
00:38:30,208 --> 00:38:32,000
300 feet and that zone.
813
00:38:32,125 --> 00:38:33,500
Look, you see that?
814
00:38:33,625 --> 00:38:35,167
I do, did you see it bend?
815
00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:36,875
Dude, did you see that?
816
00:38:37,042 --> 00:38:40,833
Last year, we were
stunned to see lasers projected
817
00:38:40,917 --> 00:38:43,875
up through the triangle
mysteriously bend.
818
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,458
There it goes.
819
00:38:45,958 --> 00:38:48,333
And rockets that
we launched up there
820
00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:50,333
get completely
deflected off target
821
00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:52,125
by something we couldn't see.
822
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:55,167
And those things did
happen at various altitudes.
823
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:56,833
What was that bend all about?
824
00:38:56,958 --> 00:38:59,083
So, could that mean
that the anomalous zone
825
00:38:59,208 --> 00:39:00,625
is shifting along
a vertical plane
826
00:39:00,750 --> 00:39:03,417
between 300 and 5,000 feet?
827
00:39:03,542 --> 00:39:06,750
Or does it mean that it
may cover the entire space?
828
00:39:06,875 --> 00:39:10,083
At this point, we don't know if
we can trust the LIDAR data,
829
00:39:10,208 --> 00:39:13,000
so we're gonna have to
find another way to verify
830
00:39:13,125 --> 00:39:16,500
what we found at both the
triangle and the east field.
831
00:39:16,583 --> 00:39:20,333
We really need to look
over the triangle area at,
832
00:39:20,417 --> 00:39:22,250
you know, 400 feet or so.
833
00:39:22,375 --> 00:39:24,542
So how do you
envision that being done?
834
00:39:24,708 --> 00:39:29,000
Uh, you know, you could
get a-a swarm of drones.
835
00:39:29,083 --> 00:39:31,667
- Because they all fly on GPS coordinates.
- I like it.
836
00:39:31,792 --> 00:39:33,268
And fly them in a grid pattern,
837
00:39:33,292 --> 00:39:34,851
and fly them around out
there and see what happens.
838
00:39:34,875 --> 00:39:37,333
And, you know, the way
we've seen GPS messed up,
839
00:39:37,417 --> 00:39:38,833
who knows what it would do?
840
00:39:38,958 --> 00:39:40,500
You know, these
people probably go...
841
00:39:40,625 --> 00:39:42,268
People that do these drone
swarms for like light shows
842
00:39:42,292 --> 00:39:44,708
and stuff, they are precise.
843
00:39:44,875 --> 00:39:47,125
And the patterns do all
these geometric shapes.
844
00:39:47,208 --> 00:39:48,851
You get them out here
and fly them over the triangle
845
00:39:48,875 --> 00:39:50,893
where the GPS messes up,
there's no telling what you would see.
846
00:39:50,917 --> 00:39:52,351
No pumping
the brakes at this point.
847
00:39:52,375 --> 00:39:54,167
Let's just go full steam ahead.
848
00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:56,052
Well, let's do
it. Let's move forward.
849
00:39:56,125 --> 00:39:57,667
Yeah, let's go.
850
00:39:58,833 --> 00:40:01,000
There's something
odd going on at this ranch.
851
00:40:01,167 --> 00:40:03,875
I want to know the
answer to so many things.
852
00:40:04,042 --> 00:40:06,625
Just what in the
world is going on here?
853
00:40:07,583 --> 00:40:09,417
Every time we begin this work,
854
00:40:09,542 --> 00:40:11,500
I never know what to expect.
855
00:40:11,625 --> 00:40:15,583
And I've been surprised if
not shocked by the outcome
856
00:40:15,708 --> 00:40:18,500
of each of our
aggressive experiments.
857
00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:20,059
This year, we have
some things in mind
858
00:40:20,083 --> 00:40:21,833
that might also be
considered aggressive,
859
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,000
but also visionary
860
00:40:23,042 --> 00:40:25,583
and quite different from
what we've done before.
861
00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:28,250
Coming into this investigation,
862
00:40:28,375 --> 00:40:30,458
we had such little information.
863
00:40:30,583 --> 00:40:31,792
But now it's coming to light
864
00:40:31,917 --> 00:40:34,250
that so many different
government entities
865
00:40:34,375 --> 00:40:35,875
were so interested
in this place,
866
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,417
it makes me feel like
we're truly on to something
867
00:40:38,542 --> 00:40:40,333
and all eyes are watching.
868
00:40:40,417 --> 00:40:43,167
My hope is to find answers.
869
00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:46,000
Gain new insights,
be able to understand
870
00:40:46,167 --> 00:40:49,125
the nature of what we are
dealing with at the ranch.
871
00:40:49,250 --> 00:40:52,375
The deeper down the
rabbit hole that we travel,
872
00:40:52,542 --> 00:40:54,958
the more complex
that it appears.
873
00:40:55,083 --> 00:40:59,167
There are no easy answers
at Skinwalker Ranch.
874
00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:03,292
I really don't know
what to expect here at the ranch.
875
00:41:03,375 --> 00:41:04,684
Okay, we've got a
light that's moving.
876
00:41:04,708 --> 00:41:05,934
There it is, right there!
877
00:41:05,958 --> 00:41:08,667
That looks like a
bona fide UFO to me.
878
00:41:08,750 --> 00:41:11,375
There is something
metallic in the mesa.
879
00:41:11,542 --> 00:41:12,851
Whatever this is, is
as tall as the mesa.
880
00:41:12,875 --> 00:41:16,125
We should be digging,
drilling right there.
881
00:41:16,208 --> 00:41:18,833
The closer that
we are getting to the answers,
882
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,750
the more covert
military activity.
883
00:41:20,875 --> 00:41:22,643
We have a
helicopter right over the triangle!
884
00:41:22,667 --> 00:41:23,667
It just went dark!
885
00:41:23,833 --> 00:41:25,833
It was a Black Hawk helicopter.
886
00:41:25,958 --> 00:41:28,375
- Somebody's up on the ridge.
- Right there!
887
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:32,125
We seem to be poking
the hornet's nest like never before.
888
00:41:32,208 --> 00:41:33,833
There's a heat source
right above them.
889
00:41:33,958 --> 00:41:35,078
Do you feel like this may be
890
00:41:35,167 --> 00:41:36,917
- a dangerous area to be working in?
- Very.
891
00:41:37,042 --> 00:41:38,958
The coyotes didn't
kill this animal.
892
00:41:39,083 --> 00:41:42,583
Middle of the day, an orb like
that showing up, that's crazy.
893
00:41:42,708 --> 00:41:44,917
This is the
largest scale experiment
894
00:41:45,042 --> 00:41:46,500
that we've ever
done here so far.
895
00:41:46,625 --> 00:41:49,167
- Fire!
- We've got a malfunction!
896
00:41:49,292 --> 00:41:52,333
There's something in
the sky above the rocket!
897
00:41:52,458 --> 00:41:53,250
We're maybe
looking at the anomaly
898
00:41:53,375 --> 00:41:55,042
for the first time, guys.
899
00:41:55,208 --> 00:41:56,809
There is definitely
something here
900
00:41:56,833 --> 00:41:58,000
on Skinwalker Ranch.
901
00:41:58,125 --> 00:42:00,333
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