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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.CO 1 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:10,802 Bill is on a mission. 2 00:00:12,429 --> 00:00:15,807 He needs to unlock the mysteries of the PDP-10 computer. 3 00:00:18,101 --> 00:00:20,228 But the adults won't share the source code 4 00:00:20,311 --> 00:00:21,604 with 13-year-old Bill. 5 00:00:23,523 --> 00:00:25,692 So he enlists his older friend Paul Allen. 6 00:00:26,443 --> 00:00:29,571 Together they boldly go where no one has gone before. 7 00:00:33,116 --> 00:00:34,826 If they find the source code, 8 00:00:35,493 --> 00:00:36,870 Bill and Paul will finally be able 9 00:00:36,953 --> 00:00:39,234 to master the computer. 10 00:00:46,254 --> 00:00:48,048 The two friends are in business. 11 00:00:53,553 --> 00:00:55,972 Hello, I'm Bill Gates. 12 00:00:58,558 --> 00:01:00,894 In this video, you're going to see the future. 13 00:01:00,977 --> 00:01:02,729 Mr. Bill Gates. 14 00:01:02,812 --> 00:01:05,166 Forbes Magazine calls Gates America's richest person. 15 00:01:05,190 --> 00:01:06,870 Six point three billion dollars. 16 00:01:06,983 --> 00:01:10,046 - Worth 40 billion dollars. - One hundred billion dollars. 17 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:12,131 Bill Gates is one of the most remarkable people... 18 00:01:12,155 --> 00:01:14,365 - Arrogant, greedy. - ...I've ever met. 19 00:01:14,449 --> 00:01:16,802 - Predatory, capitalistic brainiac. - A devil. 20 00:01:16,826 --> 00:01:17,994 Impatient optimist. 21 00:01:18,078 --> 00:01:19,871 - Your brain is a CPU? - Yes. 22 00:01:19,954 --> 00:01:21,372 He thrives on complexity. 23 00:01:21,456 --> 00:01:23,176 The smartest person I’ve ever met. 24 00:01:23,249 --> 00:01:24,918 He did drop out of college. 25 00:01:25,085 --> 00:01:27,378 You guys never understood the first thing about this. 26 00:01:27,462 --> 00:01:30,298 Greatest American businessman of his generation. 27 00:01:30,381 --> 00:01:32,383 He was changing the world with software. 28 00:01:32,467 --> 00:01:35,303 Is Bill Gates stifling technological innovation? 29 00:01:35,386 --> 00:01:37,573 They’re supposed to be jealous, supposed to be agitated. 30 00:01:37,597 --> 00:01:39,599 Bill wants people to think that he's Edison 31 00:01:39,682 --> 00:01:41,285 - and he's really Rockefeller. - I'm done. 32 00:01:42,602 --> 00:01:44,562 If he were Edison, he'd be less dangerous. 33 00:01:45,647 --> 00:01:47,941 Can I just ask you one more question? 34 00:01:48,024 --> 00:01:49,943 Will the real Bill Gates... 35 00:01:50,068 --> 00:01:52,320 - Damn, Bill. - ...please stand up? 36 00:01:59,452 --> 00:02:01,597 So the series is called Inside Bill's Brain. 37 00:02:01,621 --> 00:02:03,456 - Yes. - And I'm asking... 38 00:02:03,832 --> 00:02:05,959 - Why is that funny? - It just is! 39 00:02:06,376 --> 00:02:09,504 I don't think of it being that interesting to be in my husband's brain, right? 40 00:02:09,587 --> 00:02:10,839 That's very... 41 00:02:10,964 --> 00:02:13,049 Sorry. 42 00:02:13,216 --> 00:02:14,801 How would you describe his brain? 43 00:02:16,636 --> 00:02:19,430 I'm sorry, I'm just not gonna be able to not laugh through this part. 44 00:02:19,514 --> 00:02:21,558 - Okay, look... - Why are you laughing? 45 00:02:21,850 --> 00:02:23,560 'Cause it's chaos! 46 00:02:23,643 --> 00:02:25,895 There's so much complexity in there! 47 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:27,105 It's chaos! 48 00:02:27,438 --> 00:02:28,815 All right, here's why I laugh. 49 00:02:28,898 --> 00:02:31,234 I wouldn't wanna be in that brain, right? 50 00:02:31,317 --> 00:02:32,193 Why? 51 00:02:32,277 --> 00:02:34,487 There is so much going on all the time. 52 00:02:34,737 --> 00:02:37,073 It's moving, moving, moving, moving? 53 00:02:37,198 --> 00:02:40,827 Yeah. Yeah, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. 54 00:02:50,128 --> 00:02:53,006 Bill can deal with a lot of complexity. 55 00:02:54,132 --> 00:02:55,633 And he likes complexity, 56 00:02:55,717 --> 00:02:58,344 and he thrives on complexity. 57 00:03:01,514 --> 00:03:04,225 So when Bill stills and quiets himself, 58 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:07,228 all these incredibly complex thoughts that he's had, 59 00:03:07,312 --> 00:03:09,606 and these ways he can see the world 60 00:03:09,689 --> 00:03:13,234 and he can pull ideas together that other people can't see, 61 00:03:13,735 --> 00:03:15,653 he thinks his best. 62 00:03:17,447 --> 00:03:18,823 Why did he go on Think Week? 63 00:03:18,907 --> 00:03:20,074 He stilled himself 64 00:03:20,158 --> 00:03:23,161 and he had time to distill and slow down, 65 00:03:23,536 --> 00:03:25,288 and then write 66 00:03:25,371 --> 00:03:27,457 and lead in the way he wanted to lead. 67 00:03:29,626 --> 00:03:32,337 Bill started to take Think Weeks back in the 90s, 68 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:34,255 when he was still running Microsoft. 69 00:03:35,131 --> 00:03:38,301 He would travel the Hood Canal and spend one week there alone, 70 00:03:38,509 --> 00:03:39,802 reading and thinking. 71 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:43,223 He'd absorb stacks of books and technical papers, 72 00:03:43,514 --> 00:03:46,017 anything that could help him understand the future. 73 00:03:49,395 --> 00:03:50,897 That's CPU time. 74 00:03:50,980 --> 00:03:52,857 It's time that you get to think about things. 75 00:03:52,941 --> 00:03:55,109 A CPU is a central processing unit, 76 00:03:55,193 --> 00:03:58,029 which carries out the instructions of a computer program. 77 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:01,741 Without one, a computer can't make calculations 78 00:04:01,824 --> 00:04:03,159 or decide how to function. 79 00:04:05,119 --> 00:04:07,497 When you write down these things to think about, 80 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:09,832 that's like the code, 81 00:04:10,166 --> 00:04:12,210 you know, when will low interest rates end? 82 00:04:12,293 --> 00:04:13,920 Why isn't the clinic working better? 83 00:04:14,212 --> 00:04:16,297 Okay, the private sector is good at this, 84 00:04:16,673 --> 00:04:18,132 do they have capacity? 85 00:04:18,216 --> 00:04:20,551 How many cities is this going to get into? 86 00:04:20,635 --> 00:04:22,178 How do we do the safety tests? 87 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:24,013 Have we really underestimated this? 88 00:04:24,555 --> 00:04:26,849 What is in human sewage? 89 00:04:27,392 --> 00:04:30,144 Then you think, okay, do I need to read some books about that? 90 00:04:30,228 --> 00:04:32,355 Who do I need to talk to about that? 91 00:04:32,730 --> 00:04:34,524 And some things, I say to myself, 92 00:04:34,607 --> 00:04:36,150 "Hey, I just need to think." 93 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:38,903 Your brain is a CPU? 94 00:04:39,237 --> 00:04:40,071 Yes. 95 00:04:49,747 --> 00:04:53,167 As I've gotten to know Bill in this new phase of his life, 96 00:04:53,251 --> 00:04:55,295 it seems like he's turned his whole life 97 00:04:55,378 --> 00:04:57,797 into one long, continuous Think Week. 98 00:05:00,717 --> 00:05:03,803 Only, today, he's focused on other things. 99 00:05:17,066 --> 00:05:19,694 For more than a decade, Bill and his partner Melinda 100 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:22,697 have been pouring billions of dollars into eradicating polio. 101 00:05:28,202 --> 00:05:29,412 But they underestimated 102 00:05:29,495 --> 00:05:30,830 just how hard it would be. 103 00:05:40,548 --> 00:05:41,799 For the Western world, 104 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:44,052 polio is now a distant memory. 105 00:05:53,144 --> 00:05:54,354 We forget the terror. 106 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:56,898 And the suffering. 107 00:05:59,233 --> 00:06:00,233 In 1955, 108 00:06:00,276 --> 00:06:02,153 when the Salk vaccine was introduced, 109 00:06:02,528 --> 00:06:04,989 we were able to stop polio in the developed world. 110 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:09,243 But kids in poor countries are still getting the disease, 111 00:06:09,327 --> 00:06:10,828 which is very contagious, 112 00:06:10,912 --> 00:06:13,164 and spreads as a result of poor sanitation. 113 00:06:13,414 --> 00:06:15,249 It's terrible to have polio. 114 00:06:15,416 --> 00:06:17,585 It's terrible to be paralyzed. 115 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:21,047 It is especially terrible if you're in a poor country. 116 00:06:24,342 --> 00:06:25,968 You may not have crutches. 117 00:06:26,052 --> 00:06:27,804 If you do, they're homemade, 118 00:06:27,887 --> 00:06:31,766 and so the degree to which you cannot 119 00:06:31,849 --> 00:06:33,393 participate in society 120 00:06:33,476 --> 00:06:35,186 if you've had serious polio 121 00:06:35,269 --> 00:06:37,313 and you're paralyzed in a poor country, 122 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:39,399 it's a really terrible disease. 123 00:06:42,276 --> 00:06:46,197 I see a life that is going to be super, super limited. 124 00:06:46,697 --> 00:06:48,741 You know, it's an incredible tragedy 125 00:06:48,825 --> 00:06:50,076 for the whole family. 126 00:06:55,331 --> 00:06:57,333 You grew up in a comfortable world. 127 00:06:57,417 --> 00:06:58,417 Very. 128 00:06:58,793 --> 00:07:02,213 - You didn't need anything. - No, my parents were well off. 129 00:07:04,465 --> 00:07:06,676 My dad did well as a lawyer. 130 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:08,511 Took us on great trips. 131 00:07:08,594 --> 00:07:10,012 We had a really nice house. 132 00:07:11,139 --> 00:07:12,974 And I've had so much luck 133 00:07:13,057 --> 00:07:15,435 in terms of all of these opportunities. 134 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,600 So where are we? 135 00:07:18,646 --> 00:07:20,189 Uh, this is Lakeside. 136 00:07:20,523 --> 00:07:24,861 This is where I spent, uh, most of 7th grade 137 00:07:24,944 --> 00:07:26,320 through 12th grade. 138 00:07:28,739 --> 00:07:31,075 I was in public school through 6th grade, 139 00:07:31,284 --> 00:07:32,785 and my parents decided 140 00:07:32,869 --> 00:07:34,912 I should go to a private school. 141 00:07:35,288 --> 00:07:37,540 And I remember thinking, did I want to go to this school? 142 00:07:37,623 --> 00:07:39,000 It was a boys school, 143 00:07:39,292 --> 00:07:42,920 and I'd been kind of a class clown 144 00:07:43,004 --> 00:07:46,340 and I didn't know if that niche existed in this school I was going to, 145 00:07:46,424 --> 00:07:48,301 because it looked very disciplinarian. 146 00:07:48,384 --> 00:07:51,846 I remember thinking when I took the exam, should I pass this exam or not? 147 00:07:51,929 --> 00:07:55,766 And I just couldn't help myself, but try and do the best I could... 148 00:07:56,058 --> 00:07:58,436 But it crossed your mind to sandbag? 149 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:01,564 Right, to not do well on the test, uh... 150 00:08:01,939 --> 00:08:03,065 but I didn't. I... 151 00:08:03,149 --> 00:08:05,627 - You couldn't help yourself. - I couldn't help myself. 152 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,363 Bill is often seen as a singular figure, 153 00:08:10,072 --> 00:08:13,493 but his life, in fact, has been defined by a series of partnerships. 154 00:08:14,243 --> 00:08:18,247 At Lakeside, Bill's first true friendships were forged in the computer lab. 155 00:08:20,416 --> 00:08:21,876 There was a little room 156 00:08:21,959 --> 00:08:25,880 just off the entrance to the building and that was the computer room. 157 00:08:27,882 --> 00:08:30,968 The Lakeside Programmers Group was founded by two sophomores: 158 00:08:31,302 --> 00:08:33,346 Paul Allen and Ric Weiland. 159 00:08:34,055 --> 00:08:36,182 - So, this is Paul Allen here. - Yeah. 160 00:08:36,265 --> 00:08:39,894 There I am looking very, very mature. 161 00:08:39,977 --> 00:08:41,697 He looks 20 years older than you. 162 00:08:41,771 --> 00:08:43,773 Absolutely. He's two grades ahead of me. 163 00:08:44,398 --> 00:08:46,108 Bill and his friend Kent Evans 164 00:08:46,192 --> 00:08:47,109 joined the club 165 00:08:47,193 --> 00:08:48,986 when they were only 8th graders. 166 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:51,072 Paul actually sought me out 167 00:08:51,155 --> 00:08:54,242 because I’d done super well on this nationwide math test. 168 00:08:54,575 --> 00:08:56,077 I thought that was really cool. 169 00:08:57,662 --> 00:08:59,664 Paul was certainly cooler than I was. 170 00:08:59,747 --> 00:09:01,874 He had a corduroy kinda jacket 171 00:09:01,958 --> 00:09:04,835 and then a black leather jacket, that was the cool jacket. 172 00:09:05,753 --> 00:09:07,797 Paul captivated the middle schoolers 173 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,757 with computers and coding. 174 00:09:10,591 --> 00:09:13,678 He was the one who came to me and explained to me about chips 175 00:09:13,761 --> 00:09:17,682 and the magic of putting more and more capability on chips. 176 00:09:17,765 --> 00:09:19,642 The boys were so good at coding 177 00:09:19,725 --> 00:09:22,520 that a local company hired them to program its payroll. 178 00:09:23,312 --> 00:09:24,605 But the older kids 179 00:09:24,689 --> 00:09:27,024 didn't know what to do with the younger Bill and Kent. 180 00:09:27,108 --> 00:09:30,027 You know, I'm sure their friends thought it was weird 181 00:09:30,111 --> 00:09:33,072 that we were coming around at all. 182 00:09:33,489 --> 00:09:35,324 - And... - So they were getting shit 183 00:09:35,408 --> 00:09:37,535 - for working with the middle schoolers? - Yeah. 184 00:09:37,618 --> 00:09:38,828 And then they decide 185 00:09:38,911 --> 00:09:40,413 they just wanna do it. 186 00:09:40,496 --> 00:09:41,789 - Paul and Ric? - Paul and Ric. 187 00:09:43,749 --> 00:09:46,460 And so, they kicked both Kent and I off the project. 188 00:09:47,670 --> 00:09:50,798 And I said, "I think you're underestimating how hard this is. 189 00:09:51,549 --> 00:09:53,467 If you ask me to come back, 190 00:09:53,551 --> 00:09:58,014 I am going to be totally in charge of this and anything you ever ask me to do again." 191 00:09:58,389 --> 00:10:01,809 After weeks of work, Paul realized Bill was right. 192 00:10:02,727 --> 00:10:04,103 So he asked for his help, 193 00:10:04,228 --> 00:10:05,228 and Bill took over. 194 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:07,398 It was just more natural for me 195 00:10:07,690 --> 00:10:08,816 to be in charge. 196 00:10:09,692 --> 00:10:12,028 But wait, at this point, Kent, not Paul, 197 00:10:12,111 --> 00:10:14,006 - was your best friend, right? - Yes. Yeah. 198 00:10:14,030 --> 00:10:16,049 And you're hanging out at each other's houses? 199 00:10:16,073 --> 00:10:18,576 Uh, and talking on the phone ridiculous amounts. 200 00:10:18,951 --> 00:10:21,162 Now, I still know Kent's phone number. Uh... 201 00:10:21,245 --> 00:10:23,748 - What's his phone number? - 525-7851. 202 00:10:24,498 --> 00:10:27,460 Kent always had the big briefcase, you know, 203 00:10:27,543 --> 00:10:30,421 more like a lawyer's briefcase with tons of stuff in it... 204 00:10:30,504 --> 00:10:32,256 magazines and different things. 205 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,801 He was the best student in our class. 206 00:10:35,926 --> 00:10:38,387 He was clever, he read different things. 207 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:41,432 We're always scheming about, okay, what we'd be doing 208 00:10:41,515 --> 00:10:44,101 five, six years from then, and everybody else was like, 209 00:10:44,185 --> 00:10:46,854 "Why aren't you just hanging out at the dance?" 210 00:10:53,861 --> 00:10:56,322 Kent had an interest in business 211 00:10:56,405 --> 00:10:59,075 and so he got me reading Fortune Magazine. 212 00:11:00,409 --> 00:11:03,245 And thinking about, if you went into the civil service, 213 00:11:03,329 --> 00:11:05,665 what did you make? Should we go be CEOs? 214 00:11:06,374 --> 00:11:08,125 What kind of impact could you have? 215 00:11:09,001 --> 00:11:10,836 Should we go be generals? 216 00:11:12,254 --> 00:11:14,131 Should we go be ambassadors? 217 00:11:20,888 --> 00:11:23,516 And this idea that some people were super successful, 218 00:11:23,683 --> 00:11:25,101 that was interesting. 219 00:11:25,184 --> 00:11:28,396 I mean, what did they know? What did they do? 220 00:11:29,230 --> 00:11:31,774 What drove those kinds of successes? 221 00:11:33,734 --> 00:11:36,696 And why did some industries have few big companies 222 00:11:36,779 --> 00:11:39,365 and other industries have lots of small companies? 223 00:11:42,451 --> 00:11:45,204 The two best friends believed that someday 224 00:11:45,287 --> 00:11:47,081 they would do extraordinary things 225 00:11:47,748 --> 00:11:48,749 together. 226 00:11:49,542 --> 00:11:52,336 Okay, Bill and I have not discussed what system. 227 00:11:52,420 --> 00:11:55,256 - Well, we'll play your system, Warren. - Okay, well... 228 00:11:55,339 --> 00:11:56,619 Tell me about bridge, 229 00:11:56,674 --> 00:11:59,594 - and why you and him love it. - I consider it the ultimate game. 230 00:12:01,637 --> 00:12:04,640 It's a partnership game, which is unlike a great many games, 231 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:07,893 so you have to work with another person. 232 00:12:08,561 --> 00:12:12,064 For one reason or another, if you don't connect well with him or her, 233 00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:15,401 you know, it isn't gonna work. You can't do it by yourself. 234 00:12:16,944 --> 00:12:19,280 - One spade. - Pass. 235 00:12:19,363 --> 00:12:22,199 Bridge partners must communicate without even speaking. 236 00:12:22,408 --> 00:12:25,411 The only way to win is to mind-meld with your partner. 237 00:12:26,370 --> 00:12:27,848 Are you and Bill partners? 238 00:12:27,872 --> 00:12:30,183 Oh yeah, we’re partners. Well, we’re partners in a big way, 239 00:12:30,207 --> 00:12:35,045 in philanthropy and we’re actually, in a certain sense, partners in business 240 00:12:35,129 --> 00:12:38,924 because the fate of Berkshire is an important part of the resources 241 00:12:39,008 --> 00:12:41,135 of the Gates Foundation over time. 242 00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:43,155 If Berkshire does well, the Foundation does well? 243 00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:44,513 Gonna do better, yeah! 244 00:12:45,431 --> 00:12:48,350 In 1991, when Bill’s mother said he should meet Warren Buffet, 245 00:12:48,934 --> 00:12:51,020 the world’s most successful stock trader, 246 00:12:51,604 --> 00:12:53,939 Bill told her he was too busy. 247 00:12:54,940 --> 00:12:56,066 His mother insisted. 248 00:12:56,317 --> 00:12:59,403 So I said, "Okay, I'll take a helicopter, come out there, 249 00:12:59,487 --> 00:13:03,407 but after like 90 minutes, I have to go work on software." 250 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,285 When the two men eventually did sit down, 251 00:13:07,453 --> 00:13:08,829 they talked for hours. 252 00:13:09,955 --> 00:13:11,957 He was asking me questions about 253 00:13:12,249 --> 00:13:14,752 why couldn't IBM beat Microsoft? 254 00:13:14,835 --> 00:13:16,712 What were the economics of Microsoft? 255 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:19,173 How did we find smart people in the things we did? 256 00:13:19,256 --> 00:13:20,549 How did we price our stuff? 257 00:13:20,633 --> 00:13:24,720 I always expected to run into people who would ask me those questions, 258 00:13:24,804 --> 00:13:26,222 but he was the first one. 259 00:13:27,306 --> 00:13:29,666 Bill has only met a handful of people in his life 260 00:13:29,725 --> 00:13:31,811 with minds that operate like his own. 261 00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:37,316 It's enormously important that you do have the right friends. 262 00:13:38,359 --> 00:13:41,237 If they make you a better person than you otherwise would be, 263 00:13:41,445 --> 00:13:42,613 that's the ultimate gift. 264 00:13:42,696 --> 00:13:45,741 After decades amassing one of the largest fortunes ever, 265 00:13:46,283 --> 00:13:48,077 Warren pledged more than half of it, 266 00:13:48,452 --> 00:13:50,287 31 billion dollars, 267 00:13:50,371 --> 00:13:52,039 to Bill and Melinda's Foundation. 268 00:13:53,249 --> 00:13:55,169 Warren, how'd you come to the decision 269 00:13:55,251 --> 00:13:56,770 to give all this money to Bill and Melinda? 270 00:13:56,794 --> 00:14:01,298 Well, once you have the premise that every human life is of equal value... 271 00:14:01,549 --> 00:14:04,677 I mean that directs 272 00:14:05,052 --> 00:14:06,095 lot of what you, 273 00:14:06,178 --> 00:14:09,765 both your money and your efforts, and the people you attract, 274 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:11,976 and all sorts of things involved in that. 275 00:14:13,561 --> 00:14:17,106 Bill, do you feel pressure to do right by Warren's gift? 276 00:14:17,815 --> 00:14:18,815 Oh, absolutely. 277 00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:19,858 In some ways, 278 00:14:20,317 --> 00:14:23,237 messing up with my own money, 279 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,364 uh... I'd feel less guilty about 280 00:14:25,447 --> 00:14:27,533 than if I mess up with Warren's money. 281 00:14:33,330 --> 00:14:34,665 A few years ago, 282 00:14:34,748 --> 00:14:37,918 I showed my daughter a polio video 283 00:14:38,002 --> 00:14:39,503 'cause I wanted her to understand, 284 00:14:39,587 --> 00:14:42,172 you know, this was this big risky thing we were doing 285 00:14:42,256 --> 00:14:44,717 to help lead polio eradication. 286 00:14:45,259 --> 00:14:47,136 And the video ends with a girl 287 00:14:47,344 --> 00:14:49,096 who's got the paralysis 288 00:14:49,179 --> 00:14:52,641 limping down the road with the, you know, crummy wood crutch. 289 00:14:52,975 --> 00:14:54,852 And so my daughter said to me, 290 00:14:54,935 --> 00:14:56,270 "Well, what did you do?" 291 00:14:56,353 --> 00:14:58,113 And I said, "Well, we're gonna eradicate it." 292 00:14:58,188 --> 00:15:00,024 She says, "No, what did you do for her?" 293 00:15:05,654 --> 00:15:07,114 Melinda and I often, 294 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,076 you know, just find it very tough 295 00:15:11,535 --> 00:15:14,496 when you're seeing a few kids dying. 296 00:15:16,665 --> 00:15:18,834 But then there's millions like that. 297 00:15:19,710 --> 00:15:22,296 It should be a million times more emotional, 298 00:15:22,671 --> 00:15:25,966 but, you know, nobody can be a million times more sad 299 00:15:26,050 --> 00:15:28,302 than when you're sitting there seeing that one case. 300 00:15:31,847 --> 00:15:34,099 But the emotional connection is always retail. 301 00:15:34,725 --> 00:15:37,978 Even though, if you really wanna make a dent in this thing, 302 00:15:38,062 --> 00:15:40,773 you better think wholesale in, you know, 303 00:15:40,856 --> 00:15:43,984 ten to the sixth, ten to the seventh type magnitudes. 304 00:15:44,860 --> 00:15:46,880 Hearing you say you're getting into this because 305 00:15:46,904 --> 00:15:50,282 there's more bang for your buck... is not inspiring, Bill. 306 00:15:51,617 --> 00:15:52,660 Well, that's too bad. 307 00:15:52,743 --> 00:15:54,954 I'm the... You know, it's not my goal to be inspiring. 308 00:15:55,037 --> 00:15:57,665 The world has limited resources. 309 00:15:57,748 --> 00:15:59,875 So if you're not doing things to be inspiring, 310 00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:01,418 what are you doing things for? 311 00:16:01,502 --> 00:16:02,628 Optimization. 312 00:16:07,466 --> 00:16:10,052 With, uh, disease eradication, 313 00:16:10,177 --> 00:16:13,514 if you get to zero, that's magic. 314 00:16:13,597 --> 00:16:16,475 Because then, for all the years after that, 315 00:16:16,558 --> 00:16:20,187 you don't have any of the prevention costs. 316 00:16:20,270 --> 00:16:23,857 You don't have any of the treatment. You don't have the tragedy at all. 317 00:16:23,941 --> 00:16:28,821 But if you try to eradicate and fail, 318 00:16:29,446 --> 00:16:31,740 that's very bad because you tarnish 319 00:16:32,074 --> 00:16:34,451 the entire reputation and credibility 320 00:16:34,535 --> 00:16:36,495 of the whole global health effort. 321 00:16:38,205 --> 00:16:41,792 Smallpox is the only disease that has ever been eradicated. 322 00:16:43,419 --> 00:16:46,171 After it was wiped off the face of the planet in 1980, 323 00:16:46,463 --> 00:16:49,675 a group of organizations decided polio would be next. 324 00:16:51,343 --> 00:16:53,721 When Bill and Melinda's foundation joined the fight, 325 00:16:53,804 --> 00:16:55,556 hundreds of millions of dollars 326 00:16:55,639 --> 00:16:58,475 have been spent to save hundreds of thousands of lives. 327 00:16:59,393 --> 00:17:02,312 But progress flatlined, and in Nigeria, 328 00:17:02,521 --> 00:17:06,483 the number of polio cases had nearly tripled in just one year. 329 00:17:08,610 --> 00:17:10,237 So there was a fork in the road of... 330 00:17:10,738 --> 00:17:13,449 do we just say this isn't gonna succeed? 331 00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:17,077 At the foundation's next budget meeting, 332 00:17:17,244 --> 00:17:19,663 the polio team asked Bill to double his spending. 333 00:17:21,790 --> 00:17:27,421 And I said, "I think you just asked for the most you thought you could ask for, 334 00:17:27,504 --> 00:17:29,089 you didn't ask for 335 00:17:29,173 --> 00:17:32,760 what it's really going to take to have a high probability of success." 336 00:17:33,802 --> 00:17:35,322 They asked for 200 million. 337 00:17:36,722 --> 00:17:38,265 Bill raised it to 400, 338 00:17:39,433 --> 00:17:42,102 but said he wanted to see the program for himself. 339 00:17:47,941 --> 00:17:50,652 Religious leaders had been stirring up rumors 340 00:17:50,736 --> 00:17:52,654 that vaccines were a plot 341 00:17:52,738 --> 00:17:56,241 by Western nations to sterilize kids, 342 00:17:56,325 --> 00:17:59,953 calling the people supporting polio modern-day Hitlers. 343 00:18:00,329 --> 00:18:02,998 And the campaigns were halted. 344 00:18:05,459 --> 00:18:07,961 When Bill arrived at the Sultan of Sokoto's palace, 345 00:18:08,128 --> 00:18:10,255 he sat with leaders from across the region. 346 00:18:10,756 --> 00:18:12,674 He listened and answered questions. 347 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:19,056 Hours later, they agreed to help. 348 00:18:22,893 --> 00:18:25,413 But there was another problem. 349 00:18:25,437 --> 00:18:28,107 Even in areas where vaccinators were allowed to go, 350 00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:29,525 kids were still getting polio. 351 00:18:31,860 --> 00:18:33,445 Bill wanted to find out why. 352 00:18:38,033 --> 00:18:39,660 Some settlements, he learned, 353 00:18:39,910 --> 00:18:42,037 had been completely missed by vaccinators 354 00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:43,163 for years. 355 00:18:44,206 --> 00:18:47,209 And that was definitely shocking to me. 356 00:18:47,376 --> 00:18:51,922 The campaign was very much off track. 357 00:18:55,050 --> 00:18:56,802 When Bill and Kent were juniors, 358 00:18:57,136 --> 00:19:00,764 Lakeside's principal called them with a problem no one could solve. 359 00:19:01,348 --> 00:19:03,159 Lakeside had just merged... 360 00:19:03,183 --> 00:19:04,893 ...with a local all-girls school. 361 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:09,314 With a bigger student body spread out across two different campuses, 362 00:19:09,398 --> 00:19:12,401 no one could figure out how to make the class schedules work. 363 00:19:12,734 --> 00:19:15,654 I've been in schools in my early career where it was done by hand. 364 00:19:15,737 --> 00:19:19,616 It would take a couple of guys the entire summer just working through it. 365 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,785 So they asked Bill and Kent, 366 00:19:21,910 --> 00:19:23,245 two teenagers, 367 00:19:23,328 --> 00:19:25,998 to sort the schedules of more than 400 students. 368 00:19:26,290 --> 00:19:28,709 The number ofconstraints was unbelievable. 369 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:34,214 You've got whatever number of courses 370 00:19:34,298 --> 00:19:36,458 that the school offers in both middle and upper school. 371 00:19:40,762 --> 00:19:43,682 You couldn't have drum upstairs when you had choir downstairs 372 00:19:43,765 --> 00:19:45,767 because the soundproofing wasn't good enough. 373 00:19:47,144 --> 00:19:48,854 Everyone wants their first choice. 374 00:19:48,937 --> 00:19:51,481 The kids are taking between five and seven classes. 375 00:19:51,773 --> 00:19:53,609 They'll tell you: don't put this kid 376 00:19:53,692 --> 00:19:55,110 in the same section with this kid 377 00:19:55,527 --> 00:19:58,530 Or a teacher never teaching four classes in a row. 378 00:19:59,114 --> 00:20:00,824 There has to be lunch in there. 379 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,927 They have to be done at 3:15. 380 00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:07,998 They would put 48 people into a three-section class 381 00:20:08,081 --> 00:20:10,751 and guarantee the parents that there were never more than 16. 382 00:20:10,834 --> 00:20:14,171 Kent and I were worried we'd be going back to them 383 00:20:14,588 --> 00:20:16,131 and instead of telling them, 384 00:20:16,215 --> 00:20:18,217 "Hey, this guy can't take drums," 385 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:20,177 I'd be saying, "This guy can't take physics, 386 00:20:20,260 --> 00:20:23,347 'cause I can't figure out how to get him into a physics class, 387 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:26,558 and the graduation requirements require he take physics." 388 00:20:27,142 --> 00:20:29,811 And I thought about it for a few weeks, and I said, "No, 389 00:20:30,312 --> 00:20:33,190 uh, that's a really hard problem." 390 00:20:34,524 --> 00:20:37,236 So, how come you and Kent didn't keep working together? 391 00:20:38,028 --> 00:20:39,696 Well, we would've kept working together. 392 00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:43,116 Uh, you know, I'm sure we would have gone to college together. 393 00:20:45,202 --> 00:20:48,163 You know, Kent was, even, you know, 394 00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:50,707 less oriented towards athletics, more geeky. 395 00:20:50,791 --> 00:20:53,669 And then he took a mountain climbing course. 396 00:20:53,752 --> 00:20:55,921 It was kind of this classic Kent thing, 397 00:20:56,004 --> 00:20:58,006 where he’d... he'd broaden his world view 398 00:20:58,090 --> 00:20:59,675 and decided that, you know, 399 00:20:59,758 --> 00:21:01,134 being a little bit physical 400 00:21:01,218 --> 00:21:03,679 was something that, you know, was valuable. 401 00:21:03,762 --> 00:21:08,725 So he goes and he signs up for, uh, a mountain climbing course. 402 00:21:10,143 --> 00:21:13,021 And as part of that when they were practicing, 403 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:16,692 he... he fell down the hill and was killed. 404 00:21:22,614 --> 00:21:24,374 That must've just been shattering. 405 00:21:26,034 --> 00:21:27,619 It was, it was so... 406 00:21:31,164 --> 00:21:34,751 unexpected, so, you know, unusual. 407 00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:42,509 People didn't know what to say... 408 00:21:43,635 --> 00:21:45,887 to me or to Kent's parents. 409 00:21:48,807 --> 00:21:52,519 I remember crying at the chapel, 410 00:21:52,602 --> 00:21:55,731 and the art teacher at the school, 411 00:21:56,189 --> 00:21:57,566 guy named Bob Fulghum, 412 00:21:57,649 --> 00:21:59,693 was incredibly eloquent. 413 00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:02,863 And so I remember being... 414 00:22:03,071 --> 00:22:06,158 ...consoled by him in front of the chapel. 415 00:22:07,534 --> 00:22:09,214 But you and Kent had big plans. 416 00:22:09,244 --> 00:22:11,288 You had... You had dreams. 417 00:22:11,538 --> 00:22:14,291 Did it make you wanna throw up your hands and just quit? 418 00:22:15,250 --> 00:22:16,835 No, I... 419 00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:21,381 I sorta thought, hey, okay, now I'm gonna do these things 420 00:22:21,465 --> 00:22:23,133 Kent and I talked about but... 421 00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:26,553 I'll do it without Kent. 422 00:22:34,519 --> 00:22:37,564 It was this big hole, I think, for him. 423 00:22:41,151 --> 00:22:45,781 But, uh, Bill could be very, um... focused. 424 00:22:47,199 --> 00:22:49,576 So I suppose in that way he could hide it. 425 00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:57,125 I've heard him talk about 426 00:22:57,209 --> 00:22:58,377 his thinking sometimes, 427 00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:00,504 and moving things around in his mind 428 00:23:00,587 --> 00:23:03,131 and pulling things out of different compartments. 429 00:23:05,217 --> 00:23:08,178 He's curious about lots of topics, but then what he does is, 430 00:23:08,261 --> 00:23:10,180 he makes a framework in his mind 431 00:23:10,263 --> 00:23:11,306 and then he starts 432 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:13,141 slotting in the information. 433 00:23:14,518 --> 00:23:15,644 In Nigeria, 434 00:23:15,727 --> 00:23:18,897 you would find polio in one place, respond aggressively there. 435 00:23:19,022 --> 00:23:21,441 It would appear to get rid of it in that location, 436 00:23:21,525 --> 00:23:24,903 but then polio would appear several districts over. 437 00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:28,073 There was almost a whack-a-mole problem. 438 00:23:29,866 --> 00:23:32,786 For any pair of classes, is there a common student? 439 00:23:33,495 --> 00:23:35,122 It's all about conflicts. 440 00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:37,707 In many places, 441 00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:41,253 the most recent map you could find of Northern Nigeria 442 00:23:41,336 --> 00:23:44,047 was something made by the British back in 1945. 443 00:23:47,050 --> 00:23:49,803 What's the optimal algorithm? Or the schedule? 444 00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:55,725 These vaccinators, they've gotta get to every house 445 00:23:55,809 --> 00:23:56,977 where there are children, 446 00:23:57,352 --> 00:23:59,896 and the only maps they had were hand-drawn. 447 00:24:00,564 --> 00:24:03,358 I could build the conflict matrix one time. 448 00:24:03,859 --> 00:24:06,611 You can see, "Is there a common student?" 449 00:24:06,987 --> 00:24:09,787 There's only so many vaccinators, so you have to make sure that 450 00:24:09,823 --> 00:24:12,659 we get them at exactly to where they're needed the most. 451 00:24:13,743 --> 00:24:15,787 It's a resource constraint problem. 452 00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:23,545 It's like Bill has a giant Excel spreadsheet in his head, 453 00:24:23,879 --> 00:24:25,714 and everything has a spot. 454 00:24:31,845 --> 00:24:34,931 He tends to look at problems with some very unusual angles. 455 00:24:38,393 --> 00:24:41,563 Bill thought he'd found a way to crack the class schedule problem. 456 00:24:42,439 --> 00:24:44,232 But he knew he couldn't do it alone. 457 00:24:44,608 --> 00:24:46,610 And so I called Paul 458 00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:49,070 and say, "Hey, I need your help." 459 00:24:51,281 --> 00:24:53,158 He and Paul didn't have much time. 460 00:24:55,577 --> 00:24:57,829 School's starting in just two weeks. 461 00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:04,711 It turned out to be a little harder than I expected. 462 00:25:05,712 --> 00:25:07,592 They moved cots into the computer lab 463 00:25:08,006 --> 00:25:09,883 and started working around the clock. 464 00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:20,584 He's an amazing programmer. 465 00:25:20,644 --> 00:25:22,364 There were times where he would fall asleep, 466 00:25:22,395 --> 00:25:25,232 literally put his head on the keyboard and fall asleep. 467 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,610 And then he'd kind of groggily wake up and look at the screen 468 00:25:28,693 --> 00:25:31,279 and then he'd start typing right where he left off. 469 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,115 Paul would be changing Bill's code. 470 00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:35,784 Bill would be changing Paul's code. 471 00:25:35,867 --> 00:25:39,996 They had a very collaborative relationship. 472 00:25:41,456 --> 00:25:44,626 With just hours to spare, they got their program running. 473 00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:46,878 The schedules were finished. 474 00:25:53,802 --> 00:25:56,030 Soon other schools wanted help with their schedules. 475 00:25:57,472 --> 00:25:59,599 We had a lot of fun. I'd never gotten... 476 00:26:00,976 --> 00:26:04,354 drunk and Paul got me drunk, and all sorts of, uh... 477 00:26:04,437 --> 00:26:06,606 - And it was... - Wait, let's talk about that. 478 00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:09,693 - Why does he wanna get you drunk? - Well, Paul was into Jimi Hendrix, 479 00:26:09,776 --> 00:26:12,487 and so, you know, there was the song "Are You Experienced?" 480 00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:17,158 Paul always sorta wanted to see, 481 00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:19,744 okay, here's Bill drunk, here's Bill on pot. 482 00:26:21,621 --> 00:26:23,957 They wrote software to analyze traffic patterns. 483 00:26:25,542 --> 00:26:27,669 The night that he got me drunk on scotch, 484 00:26:27,752 --> 00:26:28,753 I didn't want to go home, 485 00:26:28,837 --> 00:26:32,465 so I just slept in the chapel at Lakeside School. 486 00:26:32,632 --> 00:26:35,594 When a hydroelectric company couldn't computerize its system... 487 00:26:35,802 --> 00:26:37,971 Somebody said, "Well, there's Gates and Allen." 488 00:26:41,099 --> 00:26:42,809 We’d come in to interview and they’re like, 489 00:26:42,892 --> 00:26:44,603 "Wait! These are children!" 490 00:26:44,686 --> 00:26:46,366 Bill left school for a semester 491 00:26:46,396 --> 00:26:48,523 and moved with Paul to Vancouver, Washington 492 00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:51,109 to program the computer for the water and power company. 493 00:26:51,192 --> 00:26:52,837 There was a black neighborhood, Alameda, 494 00:26:52,861 --> 00:26:54,779 where we’d go to the theater there. 495 00:26:54,863 --> 00:26:56,943 And we’d often be the only white guys in the theater, 496 00:26:56,990 --> 00:26:59,534 and watch films like Super Fly. 497 00:26:59,618 --> 00:27:01,911 I can't imagine two whiter guys watching Super... 498 00:27:01,995 --> 00:27:05,206 Oh, we were the whitest guys ever. We went to see Taxi Driver together. 499 00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:06,875 "Who? You talking to me?" 500 00:27:06,958 --> 00:27:09,794 "Who the... you think you're talking to?" 501 00:27:11,921 --> 00:27:13,923 Is he like the corrupting older brother? 502 00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:16,718 Oh yeah, there's definitely an element of that. 503 00:27:16,801 --> 00:27:18,470 I was good friends with Paul. 504 00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:21,473 Before that, you know, I'd been to his house, 505 00:27:21,556 --> 00:27:22,766 gone to movies with him, 506 00:27:22,849 --> 00:27:25,894 but the real intensification of our relationship 507 00:27:26,186 --> 00:27:28,063 was through this summer, 508 00:27:28,521 --> 00:27:30,857 Paul became my best friend. 509 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,695 Bill knew polio eradication would fail 510 00:27:36,196 --> 00:27:39,616 without additional volunteers, but they needed accurate maps. 511 00:27:41,326 --> 00:27:43,578 Using high-resolution satellite imagery, 512 00:27:43,953 --> 00:27:46,373 algorithms, and increased computing power, 513 00:27:46,456 --> 00:27:49,209 Bills team helps create detailed maps of Nigeria. 514 00:27:51,878 --> 00:27:54,506 Finally, they could see what the country looked like. 515 00:27:56,216 --> 00:27:59,052 We realized that the people who lived on the boundaries 516 00:27:59,135 --> 00:28:01,262 of these districts were being missed 517 00:28:01,346 --> 00:28:04,140 because this district thought the other guy was doing that place 518 00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:06,142 and this guy thought they were doing it. 519 00:28:06,226 --> 00:28:09,688 We actually saw your chance of getting paralyzed was high 520 00:28:09,771 --> 00:28:11,940 if you lived on one of these political borders. 521 00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:14,401 On the ground, 522 00:28:14,484 --> 00:28:17,404 vaccinators were now armed with precise micro plans. 523 00:28:19,489 --> 00:28:21,491 Bill kept pushing for more efficiencies. 524 00:28:22,742 --> 00:28:25,620 Targeting high-risk areas first would save lives. 525 00:28:27,956 --> 00:28:31,292 One of the big questions was, how can we use quantitative analysis 526 00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:33,211 to understand how to get from... 527 00:28:34,254 --> 00:28:36,297 low polio to zero polio? 528 00:28:37,841 --> 00:28:40,885 Bill asked the team if they could predict future outbreaks. 529 00:28:42,929 --> 00:28:45,181 So they crunched massive amounts of data... 530 00:28:45,265 --> 00:28:46,909 ...vaccination rates 531 00:28:46,933 --> 00:28:48,560 and shifts in population. 532 00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:52,313 to pinpoint areas where healthcare workers should go first. 533 00:28:53,523 --> 00:28:55,024 And it was very accurate. 534 00:28:55,942 --> 00:28:57,819 Still to come on Eyewitness News, 535 00:28:57,902 --> 00:29:01,364 Benjamin Franklin never dreamed a typewriter keyboard would do this. 536 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,826 There's a lot of people who are, uh, forecasting 537 00:29:04,909 --> 00:29:07,954 that there'll be software stores just like there are record stores today, 538 00:29:08,037 --> 00:29:10,707 and that there'll be thousands and thousands of those, 539 00:29:10,790 --> 00:29:12,390 and I think I'd have to agree with that. 540 00:29:13,918 --> 00:29:15,879 It was Bill's sophomore year at Harvard 541 00:29:15,962 --> 00:29:17,505 when Paul handed him a copy 542 00:29:17,589 --> 00:29:19,716 of Popular Electronics magazine. 543 00:29:19,841 --> 00:29:23,011 On the cover, it featured a now legendary computer. 544 00:29:23,303 --> 00:29:25,555 It looks like the revolution is starting without us. 545 00:29:25,638 --> 00:29:28,475 Bill and Paul set out to write software for the new machine. 546 00:29:30,685 --> 00:29:34,063 And so, we work day and night, and then a few months later, 547 00:29:34,147 --> 00:29:36,941 we punch it out on a paper tape. 548 00:29:37,066 --> 00:29:39,626 When Paul flew to Albuquerque to demo the new software 549 00:29:39,652 --> 00:29:41,070 to the makers of the Altair, 550 00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:43,239 he realized there was a problem. 551 00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:46,326 They had forgotten to write a bootstrap loader. 552 00:29:46,659 --> 00:29:50,497 Without one, he couldn't upload the software to the new computer. 553 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,458 So he writes that on the plane. 554 00:29:54,209 --> 00:29:55,376 Paul sits down, 555 00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:57,462 keys in all these instructions. 556 00:29:58,004 --> 00:30:00,465 If we'd made any mistake, it wouldn't have worked. 557 00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:09,307 Everyone watched as Paul loaded the code into the Altair. 558 00:30:10,934 --> 00:30:13,686 He then typed "two plus two," 559 00:30:14,020 --> 00:30:16,147 a simple command to test the software. 560 00:30:23,738 --> 00:30:25,073 The printer wrote four. 561 00:30:25,532 --> 00:30:26,699 Worked perfectly. 562 00:30:26,783 --> 00:30:30,036 It worked perfectly the very first time. 563 00:30:30,578 --> 00:30:32,330 No one had ever successfully run 564 00:30:32,413 --> 00:30:33,540 commercial software 565 00:30:33,623 --> 00:30:35,124 on a personal computer. 566 00:30:35,458 --> 00:30:36,835 Microsoft was born. 567 00:30:39,796 --> 00:30:42,882 Bill dropped out of Harvard, and he and Paul moved to Albuquerque. 568 00:30:42,966 --> 00:30:45,635 We get an apartment, which is a crummy apartment. 569 00:30:45,718 --> 00:30:48,096 Then, you know, we squeeze a couple more people in there. 570 00:30:48,179 --> 00:30:49,556 That was not a good idea. 571 00:30:50,932 --> 00:30:52,732 It was pretty much a flophouse, really. 572 00:30:53,268 --> 00:30:55,228 Well, I don't remember doing any laundry. 573 00:30:55,311 --> 00:30:57,313 I don't think anybody did any laundry. 574 00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,149 Bill had a bedroom. Paul had a bedroom. 575 00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:02,110 And guess what? I got the couch. 576 00:31:02,735 --> 00:31:04,904 Paul had his little electric guitar. 577 00:31:04,988 --> 00:31:08,283 Bill would kinda get sick of all the Jimi Hendrix music... 578 00:31:08,366 --> 00:31:10,785 ...and want anything but Hendrix. 579 00:31:13,454 --> 00:31:14,873 We were bursting with excitement. 580 00:31:14,956 --> 00:31:15,957 We barely slept. 581 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,710 We would take breaks off for fast food 582 00:31:18,793 --> 00:31:20,628 and go back to work until 3:00 in the morning. 583 00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:25,884 We were hardcore about, 584 00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:28,595 hey, if you're working on a piece of code, just get it done. 585 00:31:28,678 --> 00:31:30,805 Don't... Don't worry about sleep. 586 00:31:32,265 --> 00:31:35,101 Back then, some amount of adrenaline or something... 587 00:31:35,184 --> 00:31:36,603 I would buy a bottle of Tang, 588 00:31:36,686 --> 00:31:39,314 which is a orange sugary drink 589 00:31:39,397 --> 00:31:40,607 that they took to the moon 590 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:42,650 that you know, instead of going to meals, 591 00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:44,944 I would just pour orange Tang in my hand 592 00:31:45,028 --> 00:31:47,822 and lick it off my hand as I was working on things. 593 00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:50,825 And so my face would be covered in this orange stuff, and... 594 00:31:50,909 --> 00:31:54,621 You’re supposed to put it in a cup with water and stir it around 595 00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:55,704 and drink it. 596 00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:59,709 But you can just skip the water ‘cause your body already has water in it, 597 00:31:59,792 --> 00:32:01,711 and just lick it off your hands. 598 00:32:01,794 --> 00:32:03,274 And these keys didn't get all orange? 599 00:32:03,338 --> 00:32:05,423 Uh, that's a problem. Yeah. 600 00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:11,512 I love going into work and, you know, that work is my whole life. 601 00:32:11,596 --> 00:32:13,196 But Paul had other interests. 602 00:32:13,264 --> 00:32:16,601 Paul loved all these things that fell so far outside of, 603 00:32:16,684 --> 00:32:19,145 you know, where the company was focused. 604 00:32:19,228 --> 00:32:22,190 I mean, he was deep into science fiction. 605 00:32:22,273 --> 00:32:23,691 He read obsessively. 606 00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:25,360 Very into Shakespeare. 607 00:32:25,443 --> 00:32:29,155 And he was an accomplished guitarist. I mean, he played at all hours. 608 00:32:29,238 --> 00:32:33,284 A key advantage I had was being fanatical, 609 00:32:33,368 --> 00:32:36,496 that is, taking all my capabilities, 610 00:32:36,913 --> 00:32:38,122 day and night, 611 00:32:38,206 --> 00:32:41,834 and just focusing on, okay, how do you write good software? 612 00:32:42,627 --> 00:32:44,504 I loved being fanatic. 613 00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:46,381 Eventually I reveled in it. 614 00:32:46,631 --> 00:32:50,301 I didn't believe in weekends. I didn't believe in vacation. 615 00:32:51,803 --> 00:32:55,556 Bill had more intensity and drive than anybody I know. 616 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,603 For a lot of people it wasn't an ideal place to work. 617 00:33:00,687 --> 00:33:03,189 We were pretty frantic and demanding. 618 00:33:03,815 --> 00:33:06,401 If you said it would take a week to do something, 619 00:33:06,484 --> 00:33:09,237 "I can do that in a day. Why aren't you working as much as I am?" 620 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,782 No, no, no, no, somebody's confused. Somebody's just not thinking. 621 00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:14,659 I was famous for saying, 622 00:33:15,034 --> 00:33:16,452 "That's the stupidest idea 623 00:33:16,536 --> 00:33:17,776 I've ever heard." 624 00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:20,349 And, you know, of course, people were like, but how could it be? 625 00:33:20,373 --> 00:33:22,917 It was only two hours ago, he heard this other one. 626 00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:27,422 Is this one really stupider than all those other ideas he heard before? 627 00:33:27,505 --> 00:33:29,757 That ridiculous. I'm not using this thing. 628 00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:32,281 Bill used to say, you know, the best thing about Microsoft is, 629 00:33:32,343 --> 00:33:33,928 is everyone can work part time. 630 00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:36,472 And you get to choose which 12 hours you’re in the office. 631 00:33:36,556 --> 00:33:38,993 No, you don’t understand. You didn’t... 632 00:33:39,017 --> 00:33:40,577 You guys never understood. 633 00:33:40,601 --> 00:33:43,146 You never understood the first thing about this. 634 00:33:43,229 --> 00:33:45,690 I could just be so, so extreme. 635 00:33:46,315 --> 00:33:48,776 You know, it was like, I knew everybody’s license plate, 636 00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:51,320 so I could walk through the parking lot 637 00:33:51,404 --> 00:33:53,656 and say, okay, who’s here and who’s not here? 638 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,582 In April 1981, 639 00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:06,044 as America awaited the launch of the very first space shuttle, 640 00:34:06,127 --> 00:34:08,379 Bill and Paul were writing software for IBM, 641 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,757 the world's largest computer company. 642 00:34:11,215 --> 00:34:12,759 Things were definitely getting big. 643 00:34:13,176 --> 00:34:15,053 But when it was time to deliver, 644 00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:16,471 they missed their first deadline. 645 00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:18,973 I'd been pushing Paul to work harder. 646 00:34:19,348 --> 00:34:22,060 But Paul kept going on and on about the shuttle launch. 647 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,938 I knew guys were talking about, "Oh, that would be very fun to watch." 648 00:34:26,022 --> 00:34:26,856 Well, 649 00:34:26,939 --> 00:34:30,735 Paul did not come and ask me whether he could disappear for three days 650 00:34:30,818 --> 00:34:31,944 and go and watch it. 651 00:34:32,737 --> 00:34:34,489 'Cause I would have said no. 652 00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:38,534 But Paul went off and watched the shuttle launch. 653 00:34:40,870 --> 00:34:42,663 After long nights coding, 654 00:34:42,747 --> 00:34:44,207 Bill delivered to IBM. 655 00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:46,125 ...two... one... 656 00:34:47,376 --> 00:34:48,836 The launch was a success. 657 00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:52,924 MS-DOS became a blockbuster for Microsoft, 658 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,593 reaching millions and millions of people. 659 00:34:58,930 --> 00:35:01,808 Vaccinators were reaching critical areas across Nigeria. 660 00:35:03,976 --> 00:35:06,896 The work of Bill and his team was making a real difference. 661 00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:10,274 It’s amazing how willing and brave 662 00:35:10,358 --> 00:35:14,320 the local people, which is mostly women, had been to join these teams. 663 00:35:14,403 --> 00:35:17,323 In 2010, eradication was so close. 664 00:35:19,242 --> 00:35:22,203 Soon, India, a country with more than a billion people, 665 00:35:22,745 --> 00:35:25,331 a region everyone said was impossible to tackle, 666 00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:27,166 would be polio free. 667 00:35:30,753 --> 00:35:34,841 And in Nigeria, the number of kids getting the disease was plummeting. 668 00:35:46,269 --> 00:35:47,309 That September, 669 00:35:47,353 --> 00:35:50,940 fifty armed militants raided Bauchi Prison in Northern Nigeria. 670 00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:58,489 They freed nearly 150 members of the terrorist organization, Boko Haram. 671 00:36:00,950 --> 00:36:03,619 A new wave of terrorism swept through Nigeria. 672 00:36:07,456 --> 00:36:09,417 In Northern Nigeria, 673 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:14,172 there can be Boko Haram guys at a checkpoint who will kill you. 674 00:36:16,757 --> 00:36:19,802 Boko Haram had seized control of villages and roads, 675 00:36:20,094 --> 00:36:21,470 restricting access, 676 00:36:21,554 --> 00:36:23,556 and more importantly, information. 677 00:36:24,473 --> 00:36:26,559 So then one of the things we would estimate is, 678 00:36:26,642 --> 00:36:29,395 well, what was the size of the total population 679 00:36:29,645 --> 00:36:31,939 that was effectively in this bubble? 680 00:36:32,398 --> 00:36:35,193 And the answer is it could have been as many as two million people. 681 00:36:36,652 --> 00:36:38,863 Despite all the systems Bill put into place, 682 00:36:39,238 --> 00:36:41,365 outbreaks of polio were still happening. 683 00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:44,410 They just didn't see it. 684 00:36:46,913 --> 00:36:50,791 We should have predicted it's these terrorist controlled, 685 00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:54,420 unstable places would be the last places on earth 686 00:36:54,503 --> 00:36:56,005 that you'd have polio. 687 00:36:56,088 --> 00:36:57,608 And it wasn't just Nigeria. 688 00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:01,052 In Pakistan and Afghanistan, 689 00:37:01,427 --> 00:37:03,596 the resurgent Taliban threatened the effort. 690 00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:10,394 In much of the world, people view outsiders 691 00:37:10,478 --> 00:37:11,896 through this prism of suspicion. 692 00:37:11,979 --> 00:37:15,858 The polio vaccination is just so much more difficult, 693 00:37:15,942 --> 00:37:18,986 unless one can get full buy-in from these communities. 694 00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:21,739 It was conflict that enabled 695 00:37:21,822 --> 00:37:23,324 polio to persist. 696 00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:28,454 Bill watched as the unimaginable began to unfold. 697 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,334 A roadside bombing killed vaccinators. 698 00:37:34,585 --> 00:37:37,630 A policeman guarding polio workers was gunned down. 699 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:45,554 Two men used a four-year-old as a decoy to track down and kill volunteers. 700 00:37:47,390 --> 00:37:49,850 A mother of eight was killed while going door-to-door 701 00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:51,936 to administer the vaccine. 702 00:37:57,316 --> 00:37:59,485 People were telling Bill it wasn't worth it, 703 00:37:59,735 --> 00:38:02,154 that polio would never be eradicated. 704 00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:14,000 Bill takes chances. 705 00:38:15,126 --> 00:38:16,627 He dislocated his shoulder 706 00:38:16,711 --> 00:38:19,422 surfing down a volcano in Ecuador. 707 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:21,924 When riding bikes with him, 708 00:38:22,008 --> 00:38:24,176 he will go full-on 709 00:38:24,260 --> 00:38:26,470 down some incredible hill, 710 00:38:26,554 --> 00:38:28,973 no fear whatsoever. 711 00:38:29,598 --> 00:38:31,183 Same with skiing. 712 00:38:32,351 --> 00:38:33,561 He is fearless. 713 00:38:36,105 --> 00:38:38,190 He will do the most extreme thing. 714 00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:40,526 In 2013, 715 00:38:41,027 --> 00:38:42,737 just when people were warning Bill 716 00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:44,405 that polio was a lost cause, 717 00:38:44,989 --> 00:38:47,366 he flew to Abu Dhabi to make a big announcement. 718 00:38:48,034 --> 00:38:50,202 We decided that, you know, we’d step up 719 00:38:50,286 --> 00:38:52,204 uh, to an even new level 720 00:38:52,496 --> 00:38:53,956 in terms of our commitment. 721 00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:56,959 It was called “the endgame strategic plan." 722 00:38:57,251 --> 00:38:59,295 Bill and a partnership of organizations 723 00:38:59,378 --> 00:39:01,047 planned to eradicate polio 724 00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:02,506 in just six years. 725 00:39:02,923 --> 00:39:03,758 To do that, 726 00:39:03,924 --> 00:39:06,135 they would spend nearly six billion dollars. 727 00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:10,139 With all the different demands of the foundation's spending, 728 00:39:10,431 --> 00:39:12,600 Bill would have to reach out to his friends. 729 00:39:13,517 --> 00:39:14,518 Wow, great. 730 00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:16,812 Thank you. Perfect. 731 00:39:17,021 --> 00:39:18,522 - Napkins. - Okay. 732 00:39:25,321 --> 00:39:29,617 Now I really found what I like to eat when I was... 733 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:31,452 by the time I was six. 734 00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:34,288 I’ve saved a lot of experimenting since then. 735 00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:38,751 Continuing to put a lot of salt on hamburgers and go to it. 736 00:39:41,545 --> 00:39:44,215 But does your doctor give you a hard time about salt? 737 00:39:44,799 --> 00:39:46,133 They've learned to give up. 738 00:39:46,217 --> 00:39:48,386 My daughter keeps taking pictures of me. 739 00:39:48,469 --> 00:39:51,764 She took a picture of me the other day with a ton of mayonnaise on some thing 740 00:39:51,847 --> 00:39:54,407 and she emails it to all my doctors, there are about four of 'em, 741 00:39:55,142 --> 00:39:56,977 and they all immediately respond. 742 00:39:58,687 --> 00:40:03,025 She’s always taking pictures of potatoes with a lot of gravy all over ‘em. 743 00:40:04,735 --> 00:40:08,531 I like to... I like to size things. 744 00:40:08,697 --> 00:40:13,160 I started out as a horse handicapper, so what are the odds with polio, 745 00:40:13,244 --> 00:40:14,745 getting the job done? 746 00:40:14,829 --> 00:40:17,081 You know, I sort of, in a sense, 747 00:40:17,164 --> 00:40:19,583 put the foundation reputation on the line, 748 00:40:19,667 --> 00:40:22,837 that we’re gonna get smart and do whatever it takes. 749 00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:26,507 So... I’m very optimistic. 750 00:40:27,091 --> 00:40:29,635 If something’s the thing to do, you do it, you know? 751 00:40:33,139 --> 00:40:35,683 It's a position of gigantic responsibility. 752 00:40:35,766 --> 00:40:38,561 I mean, just think about it in terms of Warren Buffett. 753 00:40:38,644 --> 00:40:41,147 He has taken 754 00:40:41,856 --> 00:40:43,899 a huge percentage 755 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:45,943 of his wealth and said, 756 00:40:46,026 --> 00:40:47,528 "I'm counting on you, Bill, 757 00:40:47,611 --> 00:40:49,405 to make sure this money 758 00:40:49,488 --> 00:40:51,991 has a phenomenal impact." 759 00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:54,410 If it fails, someone might say, 760 00:40:54,618 --> 00:40:55,828 "Bill just held on. 761 00:40:55,911 --> 00:40:57,496 He put this big bet down 762 00:40:57,746 --> 00:40:59,081 and didn't want to fold." 763 00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:02,960 - Well... - "Because he's relentlessly optimistic." 764 00:41:03,335 --> 00:41:05,963 And you let down your friends who've given you money. 765 00:41:06,046 --> 00:41:07,506 - You've put a lot... - If we fail. 766 00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:09,592 No, but only if we fail. 767 00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:15,890 Bill was 110% committed to Microsoft, 365 days a year. 768 00:41:15,973 --> 00:41:18,726 Paul may have initially been that way, 769 00:41:18,809 --> 00:41:21,729 but was becoming much less so. 770 00:41:21,812 --> 00:41:24,356 Bill felt that Paul was no longer 771 00:41:24,648 --> 00:41:26,358 carrying his weight. 772 00:41:27,568 --> 00:41:29,361 As the company got larger 773 00:41:29,445 --> 00:41:32,239 the job became broader than just turning out the code. 774 00:41:34,074 --> 00:41:38,287 And I was having to, you know, work with customers and figuring out 775 00:41:38,370 --> 00:41:41,248 how to work in Japan and Europe. 776 00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:46,587 Bill took on this awesome responsibility 777 00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:48,339 of this little company. 778 00:41:48,422 --> 00:41:49,757 He's always worried. 779 00:41:50,341 --> 00:41:51,717 "I'm employing these people. 780 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,385 I am paying their salary. 781 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,430 Are we going to be able to make payroll next month?" 782 00:41:57,973 --> 00:42:00,059 I wanted to have enough money in the bank 783 00:42:00,392 --> 00:42:01,268 that, 784 00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:03,312 even if nobody paid us for a year, 785 00:42:03,395 --> 00:42:04,897 I could pay all the salaries. 786 00:42:05,397 --> 00:42:07,566 The other people in the company would see me 787 00:42:07,650 --> 00:42:09,777 scribbling on the back of an envelope, 788 00:42:09,860 --> 00:42:12,988 doing that calculation of how much cash do we have in the bank. 789 00:42:14,782 --> 00:42:16,951 Paul didn't have a desire 790 00:42:17,034 --> 00:42:19,119 to run a big company, 791 00:42:19,203 --> 00:42:21,121 and Microsoft was clearly 792 00:42:21,205 --> 00:42:22,373 becoming a big company. 793 00:42:24,041 --> 00:42:26,001 Bill and I were yin and yang. 794 00:42:26,627 --> 00:42:28,546 There was a stylistic difference 795 00:42:28,629 --> 00:42:30,589 in terms of intensity. 796 00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:37,763 Paul got tired of working all night all the time. 797 00:42:39,265 --> 00:42:41,016 There were times I was tough on Paul. 798 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:42,893 There’s many years there... 799 00:42:42,977 --> 00:42:43,977 I’m his boss 800 00:42:44,019 --> 00:42:45,646 and I’m calling him up saying, 801 00:42:45,729 --> 00:42:46,772 "Hey, work hard." 802 00:42:48,649 --> 00:42:50,276 There would be some arguments, 803 00:42:50,359 --> 00:42:52,194 you could hear it through the walls. 804 00:42:53,445 --> 00:42:54,697 It was just... 805 00:42:55,281 --> 00:42:57,992 Bill had his point, Paul had his point, 806 00:42:58,075 --> 00:42:59,493 bang, bang, bang, bang. 807 00:43:00,661 --> 00:43:03,122 It’s this dichotomy with small startups 808 00:43:03,205 --> 00:43:06,542 like Microsoft, where, you know, we knew each other in high school. 809 00:43:06,667 --> 00:43:08,836 It starts out as kind of a family. 810 00:43:09,962 --> 00:43:12,798 And then you find some people are more equal than others. 811 00:43:14,633 --> 00:43:16,135 Bill decide he wanted to hire 812 00:43:16,218 --> 00:43:18,053 a president of Microsoft. 813 00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:20,848 Well, the president takes over Paul's office. 814 00:43:22,349 --> 00:43:24,727 That kind of built a little separation 815 00:43:24,810 --> 00:43:26,145 from Bill and Paul. 816 00:43:26,228 --> 00:43:28,480 Where Paul was kind of going off and doing his thing, 817 00:43:28,564 --> 00:43:30,858 while Bill was busy running the company. 818 00:43:34,236 --> 00:43:35,904 In the fall of 1982, 819 00:43:36,322 --> 00:43:37,406 Paul was diagnosed 820 00:43:37,489 --> 00:43:39,617 with early-stage Hodgkin's lymphoma. 821 00:43:41,285 --> 00:43:43,037 The next year, he left Microsoft. 822 00:43:47,416 --> 00:43:50,544 There were periods of time in which Bill and Paul were closer, 823 00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:52,212 and which they were less close. 824 00:43:53,672 --> 00:43:54,840 That tension 825 00:43:54,965 --> 00:43:57,009 ebbed and flowed over the years. 826 00:43:58,636 --> 00:43:59,916 Paul would be distant. 827 00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:02,198 You couldn’t figure out why and then Paul would tell him. 828 00:44:02,222 --> 00:44:04,099 But then he wouldn’t let Bill near to repair, 829 00:44:04,183 --> 00:44:05,684 and it would just take time. 830 00:44:05,768 --> 00:44:08,646 And eventually they would figure out their way to repair. 831 00:44:11,565 --> 00:44:14,652 You know, we had times with Paul where we would sit for hours. 832 00:44:14,735 --> 00:44:18,113 They were like two little boys laughing together over these old stories. 833 00:44:18,822 --> 00:44:21,825 And then when Bill's mom Mary passed away, 834 00:44:21,909 --> 00:44:25,788 one of the first people to show up at Bill's dad's house was Paul. 835 00:44:30,501 --> 00:44:33,462 The last couple years were rough for the both of them. 836 00:44:33,962 --> 00:44:34,962 This book 837 00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:37,299 is the reason why Paul got angry. 838 00:44:37,591 --> 00:44:41,595 Bill had said some things that I think Paul felt were inaccurate and mean. 839 00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:45,474 And Paul said some things that Bill felt was inaccurate and mean. 840 00:44:46,517 --> 00:44:49,228 And both of them let too much time... 841 00:44:50,354 --> 00:44:51,354 go by. 842 00:44:59,363 --> 00:45:01,043 You have any regrets with Paul? 843 00:45:07,621 --> 00:45:10,582 In 2018, Paul's cancer returned. 844 00:45:16,255 --> 00:45:17,840 Before Bill knew Paul was sick, 845 00:45:18,090 --> 00:45:20,718 there were attempts to reach out to one another, 846 00:45:20,843 --> 00:45:22,845 but... it never happened. 847 00:45:22,928 --> 00:45:26,724 And then when Paul announced that he was ill again, 848 00:45:27,015 --> 00:45:29,017 Bill reached out and finally let 849 00:45:29,476 --> 00:45:30,686 all of the emotion out. 850 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,730 Bill was very honest 851 00:45:33,188 --> 00:45:34,648 about how he felt about Paul, 852 00:45:34,732 --> 00:45:35,858 and how he loved Paul, 853 00:45:35,941 --> 00:45:38,318 and how the friendship is more important 854 00:45:38,402 --> 00:45:39,987 than any of the things 855 00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:41,071 that may have caused 856 00:45:41,155 --> 00:45:42,948 either one of them to be angry. 857 00:45:43,991 --> 00:45:45,200 Love lasts. 858 00:45:45,451 --> 00:45:47,453 And anger tends to fade. 859 00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:02,009 And that was sort of a breakthrough 860 00:46:02,092 --> 00:46:03,719 and they were on a path 861 00:46:03,802 --> 00:46:05,846 to, you know, be together... 862 00:46:06,388 --> 00:46:07,222 again, but... 863 00:46:07,306 --> 00:46:09,433 - Did Bill get to see him before he died? - No. 864 00:46:13,437 --> 00:46:14,437 No. 865 00:46:20,903 --> 00:46:22,112 In 2018, 866 00:46:22,529 --> 00:46:26,158 there were 33 new cases of polio reported throughout the world... 867 00:46:28,327 --> 00:46:30,329 but Bill has no intention of quitting. 868 00:46:32,372 --> 00:46:33,457 No matter the cost. 70727

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