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Let's move on to shoot three, work our
way down to the simplest
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of the three chutes.
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This was
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lounging on the edge of
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the row.
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And this is just like the third row in.
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And what I wanted to do for this is I
wanted to make it a little bit more
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visually interesting by streaking
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one of those spotlights across the top
left corner of the frame where not much
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else was happening except for the
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seats.
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So I just want to make something look a
little bit interesting.
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But unfortunately, lights very hard,
not really particularly flattering.
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So right next to it, I brought that
five foot octa in, positioned it
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relatively close.
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It uses a softer light, and it gives me
a prettier look to what that light
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would have done.
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Now with this particular light,
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I actually think the way it turned out
it's not quite as perfect,
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but I prefer it.
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I have a couple instances where the
light is a bit more flattering, but I
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actually prefer it
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the way it ended up because it looks a
little bit more authentic to
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the environment.
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And we'll talk a little bit more about
that in just a moment.
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But in the meantime, let's see how that
turned out.
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You
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stretched out just a little bit more.
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Can you sit?
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on the end of the seat.
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Yeah,
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that's nice.
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Yeah, this is much better.
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That's great, right there.
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So my issue is based on the angle.
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I'm losing a lot of her dress.
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I'm losing a lot of her dress.
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It's making her look
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Shorter than she is.
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So what I'm trying to do
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is
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show her length.
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So I'm trying to figure out how I can
create a compositionally interesting frame
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in a way that still makes her look
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nice and long.
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So that's what I'm trying to work
through right now.
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Nice,
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beautiful.
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That's great.
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I'm just not shooting her feet.
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That's my solution.
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That's good, really good.
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Yeah.
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I just need to see, exactly.
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Got to say a little bit more to the
light.
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Nice,
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good.
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This is really nice.
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The wide really does look.
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Nice.
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Beautiful.
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Can you turn that light to me a little
bit?
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Please?
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The spot.
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Aha,
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you go.
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Right?
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I got a lot of Hays.
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So where's the words.
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The fan at
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it.
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Hey, Guinea.
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So we got to get the fans,
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too,
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and then give me a favor and
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angle that back a little bit to how it
was.
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That's nice.
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Good.
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And then, face to the light for me.
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Good.
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Angle the light just a little more to
me,
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yes, please.
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That's great.
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So the thing about the thing about
working with a hazer is, when it comes
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in at first it's usually really thick.
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And
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that is sometimes the effect you want.
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If you're in a smoky club or a
nightclub, and you'd want to make it
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look like that.
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But if you just want to make it look
like a normal room,
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the trick is quite a bit less heavy
handed on the haze.
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And I'm kind of going for somewhere,
slightly in between the two.
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So it's just a matter of once the haze
comes in a little bit too thick.
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You've got to blow it out with a big
old fan.
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It's a little bit hot.
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The octa is a bit hot.
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It's too, right
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down.
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So, well, you didn't just turn it at me
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off a hur a little bit.
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Good.
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That's nicety.
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That's nice.
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And I turn the head back just this way
a little bit.
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Good.
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That's beautiful.
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Really nice.
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Good.
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Turn the face a little more.
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Good.
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Now, turn it back to her a little bit,
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because now I lost it completely.
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Bring it to me.
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Let me see it.
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Can you turn that foot?
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So it kind of sits like this
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one.
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Will that work?
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If you bend it kind of work
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with both.
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So you're kind of sitting in a little
bit more of a wider stance.
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The knees are kind of
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out a little bit.
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Yeah, that's fine.
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I'll try that.
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Very flary.
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What's the power on it
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down to two.
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Much better, much better.
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The thing with making these spots work
is they either have to move across the
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frame so you can see the beam, or they
have to point at the frame.
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So it flares at you, looking at the
cross and looking at the flare.
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I preferred the look of the flare on
this particular shot.
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The downside of the flare is.
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It was too bright, so I turned the
power down.
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I went from five to two, so I brought
it down.
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Three stops.
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Turn your shoulders to me just a little
bit, but keep the face to the light.
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Beautiful.
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Right?
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That it's great.
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I'm just trying to make her look,
because sitting poses are kind of
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awkward.
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Trying to make it look a little bit
longer.
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Give me some environmental stuff.
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And
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that's really all it is.
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With the dress.
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Yeah,
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good.
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Arm.
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Back on the arm, for me,
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on the arm
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of the chair.
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Sorry.
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You got good?
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Yes,
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ok,
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turn your face to the light a little
bit.
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Just look off
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shoulder.
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Down and kneck a little bit longer.
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Just kind of like you're looking at
somebody
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open the chest.
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To me, just a little bit good,
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rolled a shoulder in
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there,
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head up a little more
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nice.
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All right.
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So you can kind of see that one, in
particular, was a little bit more
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loose in terms of the way I was moving
around, the way I was configuring the
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lights.
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That was one of those instances where
it was like, hey, we got 45 minutes to
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set this up and get this shot.
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And so it was a matter of doing it
relatively, quickly and efficiently as
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we could.
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So that was kind of the entire way we
were working for that image.
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And
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as I said before, this was the least
complicated of all of them, by a mile.
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It was just too light.
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We had one light that was creating the
spotlight effect, and I had another
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light that was
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creating the main light on the subject,
or filling in the light a little bit more,
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in, creating a bit more of what that
key looked like.
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And that was the five foot octabox.
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And the multi spot was creating the
spotlight effect.
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You also saw a little bit of Lindsay,
holding that flag in place.
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And that's because that light was
hitting a very white dress.
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And it was causing a lot of highlights.
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And so that flag was there to kind of
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keep that brightness down a little bit.
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That's what that flag was doing.
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In those particular images,
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I was alternating really quickly in
between
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a few different lenses there.
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I was using the ninety millimeter lens.
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I was also using
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the white angle lens that I was using a
lot of those shots.
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Ultimately, the shots that I liked the
best were the 55 millimeter lens.
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And this one over here I will show you
is probably the one that I liked the most.
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That's probably one that I like the
most from the set.
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I liked her.
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Her expression, I like to pose it felt
kind of natural a little bit candid.
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Also showed the environment
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quite a bit, which I really liked.
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You can see that the flair over here,
it makes it look like there's a
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spotlight effect.
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And even though I would probably look
at this image under a lot of the Rules
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that people will tell you about
lighting and say, it's not like,
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there's a highlight on the nose, and it
feels a little bit rough,
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I actually like it because it feels
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natural.
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Whereas with this particular image,
which is also another one I like
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the light's a bit prettier.
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And this one feels a bit more fashiony,
where the other one feels a bit more,
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the other one feels a bit more
cinematic.
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Portrait.
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Again, not that either one is right or
wrong.
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I'm more drawn to the image on the left,
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And so
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that's kind of the image that I would
probably gravitate, even though the one
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on the right
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would be the
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better
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lighting.
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So that's not necessarily always the
right, the right move.
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This is also something that I addressed
earlier on,
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be careful about a haze machine looking
too smoky.
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It doesn't work in this environment.
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The smokiness doesn't work.
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It doesn't.
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Why would a theater be smoky?
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Right?
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So
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that's probably why I would grab, just
keep out of mind.
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We said, hey, let's scragg, the fan
let's move it out.
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So you've got to run it so you can get
it and then back it out as well.
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And so these are just, you know, a few
of the other shots.
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And you can kind of see how it breaks
up that background a little bit.
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She's kind of in the direction of the
light.
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And that was just a few of the images
that
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I ultimately
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liked and wanted to go through on that.
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But
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this was ultimate, was ultimately the
one that I thought was the strongest of
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the set.
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And so
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we've kind of paired down in terms of
lighting.
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And I've shown you a few different ways
to deal with the scene, from the very,
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very complex
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to the very, very, relatively simple by
comparison.
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But they all still fit together.
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And that's really the point.
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They have a very similar feel.
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They feel like they could be a part of
the same set of images.
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Even though they are all lit
differently, they look differently.
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They're all really achieving,
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very fundamentally similar goal.
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So
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now that we've kind of looked at that,
take some questions maybe on shoot.
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Three,
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forgotten questions over there.
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And, yep, yeah, yeah.
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This question is about, do you always
try to get lighting in the camera?
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Are there any post production tips for
people that can't afford all these
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lights?
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Like, can you accomplish some of this
impost
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so
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you can fake certain things?
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So, for example, I could show you how
to kind of fake a spotlight a little bit.
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It's not going to be the same thing,
but it's
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close.
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So I generally always try to get it
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significantly close in camera.
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There are times where you're going to
need to make a concession in one waver
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or the other.
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Either
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excuse me, you are missing stuff.
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You don't have enough lights
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you can use.
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You can help augment some things.
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You're running out of time.
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Hey, we don't have the time to get this
hundred percent right, because we're on
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it or down.
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We've got to move along through the
shots.
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See, there are certain times you can
fix some things.
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For example, I'm going to show you guys
this a little bit later.
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But like listen, I would have loved
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to have a light that was powerful
enough to create the spotlight effect
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on the stage where I could see it.
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But I didn't.
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So I'm going to make the spotlight on
the stage in Photoshop.
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But everything else is there.
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Like this, is there?
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The beam?
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Is there?
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The light on the face is.
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There are certain things you can fake.
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There are certain things that
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you can get away with faking.
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But I will try to get it
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if I can.
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I mean, work on the day, so you can
save yourself, work later.
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The pre production and post production
is by far the most time consuming parts
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of all of this.
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So why do you want to give yourself
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more work to do if you can
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avoid it?
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That's kind of my philosophy.
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So,
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are you using capture?
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One, I'm using light room light room.
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Ok, what are your settings
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to achieve that color tone?
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Are you doing anything?
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So this uses, and I'm going to talk
more about this
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in the development.
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I mean, it's white balance.
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And
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there is a little bit of play here in
the split toning section about it, a
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little bit of blue to the shadows and a
little bit of warmth to the highlights.
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But I will talk about that in the post
production section tomorrow.
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All right.
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Well, you guys,
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I noticed that you're oftentimes
intentionally introducing flare.
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And a lot of the new lenses, with all
these fancy coatings and stuff, are
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actually fighting that
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ability to do that.
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You see,
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how do you get around that?
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Or do you?
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Do you see a market for older lenses as
a result of that?
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I mean,
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there are definitely a lot of things
that we can do to minimize flare.
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And
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if I were to shoot, this is a start
with a new lens.
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I mean,
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I put a lens hood on this, it's going
to make flare less, but I didn't,
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because I wanted it there, right?
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The other thing is, when you put a
light at the lens,
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you're not going to be able to
eliminate the flair entirely when it's
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pointed at the lens.
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And also, when you're using haze, the
flare is not just the light being at
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the lens,
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it's also lighting up the haze.
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And so that's not a flare.
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It just
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kind of sort of looks like it, because
your light particles are catching light.
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So like in this particular case, what
you're seeing lit up is a little bit of
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flare, but it's also
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the particle is being lit.
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So there are ways
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to kind of get around it.
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But again, it's all about
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what you want.
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Like some people want the flare, some
people don't.
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Yeah,
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I guess I'm just wanting to know more
about you, and what lights you love,
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and what do you get most excited about?
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I don't know if I got to skip that.
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I want to know my value.
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Oh, ok, yeah,
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I love shooting stuff like this.
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I love things that feel like big
productions,
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because,
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like I said, I wanted to make movies
when I was a kid.
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And so I kind of, I kind of get super
excited whenever I get to make
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something that looks like this, or
shoot something that I wouldn't
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normally get the opportunity
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to shoot as often.
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So when I'm doing personal projects, or
when I am able to really get away with
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shooting something,
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but has a big,
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big body of energy and people behind
it.
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That's the kind of stuff that I like to
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mess around with.
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So tomorrow
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I'm super excited to show you guys what
we're going to do tomorrow, or we're
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shooting on an airfield.
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As I was saying to these guys these
earlier is, like, how often often do
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you get the opportunity to shoot with
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antique airplanes on an active runway?
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Like that?
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Kind of sounds crazy, cool.
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It doesn't happen all the time.
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And you get to go and walk in these
planes.
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And I'm a sucker for
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old things and antiques and stuff like
that.
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And so I really, really like the
opportunity
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see, see things, and
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touch things, and go into places like
that that you wouldn't normally get to.
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There's just so much history, like,
there's a richness to the history.
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And I love things that have
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a lot of history behind it.
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I think that's just
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one of my favorite things to do is
travel, and visit places that are
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way old.
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Like, I love going into museums and
stuff like that, and
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just seeing things that have been
created and handled by people hundreds
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and thousands of years ago.
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I think it's
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phenomenally fascinating.
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And so
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that's what I like to do, and that's
why I love shooting stuff that looks
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like paintings so much it's.
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I love things that tell a story, and
things that have a lot more depth to it
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than just exactly what you're looking
at.
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And so when I'm trying to create
images, I'm trying to make it look like
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it's more than exactly what it looks
like.
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I think when we start out doing
photography,
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we photograph in words.
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And so you say, this is a dog, this is
a baby, this is a squirrel, this is a place.
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But I think the more and more you
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understand
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photography as a visual language,
you're able to speak in sentences or
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paragraphs or short stories, or
whatever the case may be.
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And I love images
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that extend beyond that exact moment.
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You want to know more about it.
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You want to know, what's happening.
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What's a story with this person what's
happening over here.
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Why are they looking like that in the
room they are in?
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I think that's what's phenomenally
interesting about
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fine artwork in general, is the work
that
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needs a statement to talk about it,
because
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it's more than just what it is.
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A project can be more than just what
the image is.
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Maybe it's
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the body of work, maybe
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it's an artist's body of work that
speaks to something significantly Greater.
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And so I think photography
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has
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a power to do that.
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It has an ability to do that.
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And I think when people are able to
reach that point within the medium
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that's the kind of work that I love.
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Question from online, do you,
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when you're shooting cinematic,
cinematic portraits, you think about
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the narrative differently and how
you're building it.
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Is this story different for you, or how
do you think about this type of
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photography differently than you would
other?
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Yeah.
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I mean,
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I think
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in this kind of work, if you are
driving an environment, it's helpful to
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create a narrative.
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And the narrative doesn't have to be
some really specific story.
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I mean, it can be
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very, very vague,
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very broad.
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The one that we're doing tomorrow is a
lot more specific.
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There is a very specific story to
tomorrow's it's based on one of the
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images, based on historical photograph
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whereas.
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This one was just this vague concept of
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starlit in a theater kind of a thing.
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And then my whole exploration toward
the image would be all right well,
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what's going to make this interesting
to me.
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Why would someone behave or emote or
pose in a way in this space that is
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interesting?
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And I love the contrast of, here's
someone in a beautiful gown in an
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amazing space?
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And then how would they interact in
that space
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in a way that's compelling?
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for me, it's all about the contrast.
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And so
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the performer or the introspective, and
for me, the introspective smallness and
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the personal
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expression of the shot, I always
thought was really a lot more interesting
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in an environment like this.
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If you look at,
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so, step away from this for a minute.
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But if you look at the painter
rembrandt's work,
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Rembrandt was all about painting
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very significant Scenes in a way that
was deeply personal
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and singularly human to
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this meant to be a very personal story.
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And so he could create a scene that had
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multiple moving elements, but it still
felt deeply relatable and deeply
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personal.
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And so
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you could tell these big stories in a
simple way.
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And that's what I like about doing
images like this, where you're creating
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a bigger scene, which you're trying to
relate it to the person in a smaller,
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much more specific way.
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