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Now that I've shown you how to build a
quote.
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I want to show you some example,
estimates and in voices and show you
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how this all comes together.
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In this section, I've developed three
sample emails.
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And these are examples of emails I get
every single day.
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So let's open the first email here.
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I'm going to read this out loud.
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Hiclay.
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My name is Brooke, and I am the art
director at magazine.
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We are a magazine that features success
stories of unique people around the
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United States.
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We have a success story feature in
Gabriel stone and mixologist in
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Louisville, Kentucky.
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And we need one environmental portrait
on location, preferably at a Bourbon
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distillery.
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We have attached a creative brief,
which will provide a variety of
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examples and an outline of what we need
for the image.
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Our budget is 800 dollars.
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We will also need hair and make up for
gabrielle.
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Do you have any recommendations?
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If you're interested, let me know so we
can move forward with production.
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I look forward to hearing from you and
hopefully working with you.
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Thanks.
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Brooksmith, blank magazine.
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So the first thing we want to do is
analyze this email.
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First, we have one portrait that we
need to capture
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secondly.
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We have a budget of that one portrait.
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Third, we have hair and makeup that we
need to take care of, or we need to
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make a recommendation as a client
provision.
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This is also on location project.
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They want an environmental portrait.
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So I'm going to have to travel to this
location.
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So that's something to keep in mind.
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In this case she's offered her budget
up front.
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This does happen, but not often.
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And in this case, it's a little low for
what I want to go for.
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There's a few questions we need to ask
Brooke, will this image need retouching
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and color grading?
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And then also we need to ask her
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about hair and make up.
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She obviously laid out, do you have any
recommendations?
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But in this case, we could take care of
hair makeup and add it to the expenses,
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which we can make a little profit in
that case.
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So I need to respond back to Brooke
with a number that's higher than what
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she's budgeted for, to see if we can
meet somewhere in the middle.
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And this is where negotiation comes in.
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So a pitch brook, 1300 dollars.
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We've included the hair and makeup.
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We've included the file transfer the
delivery and also the retouching and
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color grading in this 1300 dollar
number.
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So Brooke might come back and say, hey,
unfortunately, we just don't have the
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budget for that.
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We do not have the wiggle room for that
number.
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And so
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in that case, your negotiation might
backfire, and Brooke might say, we've
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already found another photographer.
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But in most cases, they will say, hey,
we do have that wiggle room, but it
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only allows us to go to around 1200
dollars, or in this case, 1250.
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So with some simple negotiation,
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I've got an extra 450
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out of blank magazine for this one
environmental portrait.
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Although we have raised this budget to
an extra 450 dollars, we have incurred
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some additional expenses, such as hair
makeup and this retouching now.
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So you had to keep that in mind.
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Now we need to build our estimate,
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so we know that we have hair and makeup
at 150 dollars.
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We know that we need file transfer,
retouch, color and delivery at 100 dollars.
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And then I'm going to combine our
creative feat and our license feat into
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a flat 1000 dollar fee.
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And the reason why I want to do that is
because I want to keep this simple.
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We know that's an editorial assignment.
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So there's not much room we have here
to license this photo out.
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So what I've done is I've provided a
job description on our estimate.
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The job description lays out, as follows
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create one environmental portrait of
gabrielle stone on location in
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louville, Kentucky, and convey the
following license to magazine
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a non exclusive editorial and web
collateral use of one image for one
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year from shoot date.
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What this license allows them to use
this image for is both the editorial,
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the publication,
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the online publication,
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any blogs in social media.
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For one year from that shoot date.
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Remember that the reason why I'm being
so lenient with this license is that
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this is not a commercial client.
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This is an editorial magazine.
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So this is the most basic version of
what I get hired for in the editorial
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world.
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So now let's move on to something a
little bit more complex.
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This is our next email.
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Hello, Klee.
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I hope you're well.
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I'm Katherine bell, the director of
marketing at thread, a boutique fashion
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brand based in Nashville.
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Tennessee, we are working on a
complementary quarterly publication for
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our consumers and employees.
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Our goal is to deliver a positive
message, feature colorful stories and
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promote fashion trends from the
brightest up and coming designers.
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At the top of our list is Nashville
based Marco delacroy, who rocked New
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York fashion week with his great color
palette.
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We need an energetic fashion story of
six looks from his new line.
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Although we are open to your creative
ideas, we'd love to have this in a
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studio setting.
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Please let me know your rate and your
availability.
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Best.
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Catherine, as you can see from this
email, this isn't exactly editorial,
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and this isn't exactly commercial.
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This is an example of a fashion ran
that's crossing those streams.
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Because of that.
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We need to change our pricing just a
bit.
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I'd respond back to Catherine with a
few things.
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I'd ask her those standard questions,
how are these images going to be used?
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Do you need retouching?
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Do you need color grading?
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And then finally,
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what's your budget looking like?
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Kathe got back to me and said that she
needs six images, and she needs the
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right to use them in the editorial
story, in her quarterly publication, as
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well as the right to use them on our
blog and social media.
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But in this case, Katherine wants these
images in perpetuity.
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I cannot put a time period on this,
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so we have to charge a lot more money
for this licensing fee because of that
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time period.
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So let me show you what I put together.
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We filled that estimate here.
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And the job description reads as
follows create a variety of photographs
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of one female talent on one shoot date
in Nashville, Tennessee and convey the
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following license to thread a non
exclusive editorial and web collateral
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use of up to six images in perpetuity.
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One thing to note here is that we have
a new line of client provisions.
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Climb provisions are production costs
that I won't be responsible for.
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So in this case, the client is to
provide the talent, hair, makeup
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wardrobe, including the cost of
wardrobe catering and production
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coordination, such as a creative
director.
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And so the fees I've lined out is a
creative fee of 1000 dollars.
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This creative fee will get me out the
door.
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Thread is based on Nashville Tennessee,
which gives me the ability to charge a
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little bit more for this creative feed
than let's, say, louisvilleville,
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Kentucky it's a bigger city.
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Next up we have the licensing fee of
1000 dollars.
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And so because they want these six
images in perpetuity, that's going to
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bring this licensing fee from, say,
around a few hundred dollars to 1000
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dollars.
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That little difference is all profit.
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By giving her this perpetual license,
I'm basically losing any sort of
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relicensing in the future from thread.
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I want to make sure that this license
is priced accordingly, because I can't
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come back to Catherine and thread next
year to renew this license for these
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same images.
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Next on the list we're charging for the
first assistant at 200 dollars.
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This is going to pay for my assistant
to come with me to Nashville, Tennessee
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and get the job done.
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Next, we're having to rent a studio in
Nashville.
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That's going to cost me 800 dollars for
the day.
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Next, we had the file transfer,
retouch, color and delivery of six
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selections at 200 dollars.
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Each
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Jordan will be doing the retouch
portion of this job, and he's going to
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be taking a percentage of this 200
dollars.
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But keep in mind, I'm going to be doing
the file transfer, the color and
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delivery with each one of these images.
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I'll be making a profit from this
expense.
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And finally, because I am traveling
from Louisville, Kentucky to Nashville.
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Tennessee, I want to make sure I charge
for my mileage and some miscellaneous
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travel expenses.
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This is the final estimate of 4500
dollars.
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So now we're going to send this over to
Catherine for the signature.
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Now let's get to our third and final
email.
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It reads as follows.
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Hey, clay, firstly.
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Thank you so much for the wonderful
creativity and professionalism you
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brought to the table with thread.
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It was fun to watch you work, and it
was a blast to collaborate with you on
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the future.
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With that said, I'd love to have the
high resolution images to display on my
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website.
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Additionally, I would like to use one
of the shots for a billboard in
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downtown Nashville to promote an
upcoming fashion show where the
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collection will be debuted.
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Let me know if you need anything for
me.
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Thanks.
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Marco delacroy, this actually happens
quite often in the editorial world,
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where i'll be hired to shoot for a
publication.
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And then the subject that I photograph
wants to license those images to use
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for their business.
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This is a great example of how we can
make some more money without taking any
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additional photographs.
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We already have a clear understanding
of what this license needs to be,
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because Marco spelled it out in the
email.
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So we're going to go right into our
estimate and get this back over to him.
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I'm in a midsized market.
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I understand that I'm not in New York
or I'm not in LA, and so people in my
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market are a little bit more
apprehensive with limited licenses.
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So I want to throw Marco just a nice
blanket license.
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That's going to cover web collateral,
which means he can use this on his
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website, blog and social media.
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And then I provide him with a local
print advertising use of up to six
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images for two years from the file
delivery.
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This type of license also protects me,
because in case Marco blows up, his
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collection becomes famous, and he wants
to license this image worldwide, he's
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going to have to come back to me also.
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If he wants to use this license after
two years, he's going to have to come
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back to me and renew again.
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So what I came up with is a licensing
fee of 2000 dollars.
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This covers billboard local print
advertising as well as the web
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collateral license for two years of up
to six images.
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Now let's say we send this over to
Marco.
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And he's a little shocked that this is
going to cost him 2000 dollars for this license.
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So one option is I can walk away, but I
don't want to do that, because all the
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hard work is already done.
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There's nothing that I have to do from
this point other than draft a license.
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So we needed to negotiate here, and
Marco only has 1500 dollars to spend.
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So I'm happy to meet at that, but I'm
not going to give him exactly what he
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wants.
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We need to change the terms of this
license in order to meet there.
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So there's a few options I have here,
and there's a few things I can change
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in this license.
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But in this case, I'm going to go with
the time.
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I'm going to reduce this two year time
period to one year.
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It'll still make Marco happy, because
he can still print his billboard, and
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he still has the option of using these
on his website.
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But now he has to come back to me if he
wants to renew this license for an
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additional year.
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So I haven't given you every answer
about pricing, but hopefully I've given
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you a little bit of insight of how I
price my photography
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when it comes to pricing.
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I'm no expert at it, and honestly, a
lot of photographers are in the same
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boat.
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But I know that the more you do it, the
more comfortable he'll become.
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In these three examples, I built
estimates that are agreements, or contracts
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that are signed before the shoot.
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There is one final step after I deliver
the images and that's sending an
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invoice or a bill.
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And this is how I actually get paid
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with an invoice.
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There's a few things that you need to
make sure that are listed on this
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invoice.
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And so I've developed a sample in voice
for you to see.
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Notice that there's a dative invoice,
title of the project, description of
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the project, client name and contact
detail.
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Then you need to have your own name,
address and contact detail.
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You need to have the total amount owed.
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And then finally, the terms of payment.
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I shoot a lot,
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so it's really hard for me to keep up
with who's payment, who hasn't paid me.
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So I use the accounting software, quick
books.
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Quick books not only allows me to send
out my invoices, but also allows me to
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keep track of my income and expenses.
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So if you're just starting in
photography, quick books might be a
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little bit of advance for you.
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But if you're making over 10000 dollars
a year, I highly recommend looking into
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that software.
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