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Heights Jack Joseph quick I see here we
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have a question from chef o Hernandez
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how can you achieve maximum loudness on
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your mix using just plugins well it's
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interesting that sort of implies that
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the best way you get loudness is an
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analogue and some ways that's true some
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ways is not true that's a longer
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discussion but in terms of the analog
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portion of course with transformers when
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you push this down real hard you sort of
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kill the peaks and therefore you're able
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to get more level without the digital
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going into the red for the obvious
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reasons the plug-in loud in situation
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there's a tremendous amount of plugins
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that you can use to achieve that right
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so l3l one for instance or to route good
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examples what ends up happening is you
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know the louder you push it the harder
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you have that compressed so less peak
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information you have so really what
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we're talking about is a relationship
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between peak information relationship
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between peak information and the
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relationship between RMS the average
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level so the whole thing with the
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plugins or even in analog domain is a
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matter of actually killing some of those
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Peaks or we can call them transients and
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therefore you're able to have more room
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to lift the level up and get more of the
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rms level of course with Aquila transits
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that's when things start to sound now as
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a tacky not as aggressive and can sound
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flat here people say it sounds flat it's
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too compressed part of that is because
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you've killed the transients so it's a
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real trade-off the obsession with the
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level can also be what can kill rate mix
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obviously we're all in some ways
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obsessed with the level because whether
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we like or not the client who's
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massively educated or not will compare
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it to something else it's loud and ask
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you why it's not loud so I understand
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the pain point of wanting to to make it
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louder am I suggested again has just
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used the compressors even if it's a
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couple you put together could be two
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compressors you put together to try to
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control the pink information versus the
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RMS if you look at the meters on the Pro
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Tools you'll be able to see exactly what
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you're doing you'll see a lot more
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greens and reds and the perfect world so
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to speak as an example I say perfect
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world as an example if you had just all
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greens that would be louder than you can
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imagine if you have the Reds going along
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with the Greens we've got pick
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information it's not going to be as loud
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but to have a tach and it's going to
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breathe looks like Darryl Swart
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hopefully I've pronounced that properly
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if not please excuse me how do you deal
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with the hi-hat bleed when needing to
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boost high n on snare but short gate
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takes away from snare tone snare tone of
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course goes away with the short gate
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because you're taking the length of the
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note away and that's where the tone
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resides right so if this snare is real
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tightly good you only had to kick left
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so therefore is no tone what I do is I
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go ahead and take care of that high
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bleed by gating tightly and I either get
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the tone from one or two places the
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obvious one samples that I stick in or I
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sidechain the snare or I should say
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actually a better way to put it really
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is to take the to take the snare and
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duplicate it so it's identical right and
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add a tremendous amount of bottom almost
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so much bottom it could be as much as 10
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or 12 at somewhere between a hundred and
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two hundred and fifty Hertz anywhere in
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there and I would put like a stupid
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amount of that low bottom in where if
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you were living listen to it by itself
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you'd be like that's absolutely useless
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and why is the snare drums like a bass
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drum right but if you sneak that
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underneath the other one where now
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you've got the attack because you've
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gated it very tightly and now you're
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adding that low bottom in there it
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starts to feel like there's a lot of
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low-end
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of course that your EQ insulting up the
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hi-hat level of course you got to be
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careful between the bass drum and that
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new channel I just described because now
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the phase relationship between those two
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really matter so make sure the phase is
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not an issue with you're adding so much
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bottom on the snare that's cancelling
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the bass drum so be very careful check
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that phase but again add all that low
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bottom the ear will think that you've
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added tone because it'll hear the link
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to the note the Q on the equalizer the
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fit mosquito is very important so this
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is on to tubby
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right it's not to broaden where it
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sounds sloppy and loose you want to be
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tight is the backbeat so unfortunately
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you have to use your ears your ears are
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the best tool you can ever have when
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you're making decisions like that does
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your choice of monitors really matter or
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is it on how comfortable and how you
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adapted you are to your monitors if so
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what's your favorite monitor speakers
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are like headphones like a t-shirt like
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a shirt like earmuffs it's what you feel
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comfortable with and what you connect
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with you know I've had people make
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amazing records that I've mixed that I
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was very impressed with the tonality and
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the EQ scape of what they did I wanted
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to find out that they maybe did in a
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pair of speakers that I would never even
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consider using or maybe I even dislike
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so I get asked this question all the
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time from actually regular people as
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well as you know very well educated
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people and I honestly have to say that
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you just gotta listen to different
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speakers and find them one that fits
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your ear you know maybe you have ears a
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very sensitive to brightness so
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obviously you don't want something
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that's real bright and vice versa you
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know wherever the situation might be I
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know the gentleman 1032 is I use a lot
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I'm very comfortable with those always
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have been and it stands of course we all
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use its standard at least at this points
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almost going in but still kind of a
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standard and after that it's different
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kinds of speakers I've used over the
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years I've used krrk I've used JBL's
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you know I've used all kinds of stuff my
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philosophy is you should be able to make
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it on anything and with a quick listen
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you can put up iTunes and just go down
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15 20 songs get a feel for how those
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speakers work and then maybe play a few
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things that you really know well that
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you're comfortable with but you know
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actually what they sound like and adjust
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your ears and of course test-pilot
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take a few mixes make a few balances
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don't spend a lot of time just kind of
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do it quick and listen to it and listen
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to it and see what it feels like in a
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few other different places
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looks like rama how do you make vocal
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sounds so smooth an area at the same
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time total function of mid range a very
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very very high level skill set the
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attitude and the character in the mood
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of instruments resigned in the mid range
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they do not live in the high end they do
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not live in the way way way extreme low
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end they live in the mid range that is
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where you hear the crack in the voice
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the ring in the snare a rattle in the
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guitar string the kick against acoustic
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guitar strings the finger and the qatar
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strings rattle on the bass it all lives
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in that mid-range piano c3 middle a all
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that
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excuse-me middle c all that is right in
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the mid-range and that's where the
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character relocked resides so if you
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scoop some of the mid-range out you can
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sometimes get a voice that might be a
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little too Monroe G or you can and
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that's dangerous again because that's
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very important somebody's almost a no-no
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so you'll be very very careful kind of
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wish in some ways that didn't say that
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because I don't want people to go crazy
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with the mid-range what I've done the
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lots of times is used compressors that
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have allocated EQ within them right so I
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see one would be an example there's lots
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of different ones like that and I can
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sometimes just have the compressor
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carefully on Peaks dip out that
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mid-range which allows the top and the
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bottom to sound louder compare the
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mid-range on those notes where it might
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be a little too shrinking
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the first thing I discussed of course
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would be more justice or overall EQ
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maybe it was recorded on microphone that
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kind of pushed the mid-range or the room
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was a little too good ranging over the
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console is adding a mid-range reproach
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whistles at a mid-range you don't like
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then you can go through and carefully
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soundscape it but be very careful if you
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take too much that mid-range out I'm
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gonna be painting too much that
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mid-range out the vocal won't sound like
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it's really pushing out the attitude
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needs to it'll sound now too smooth and
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too Airy so it's very dangerous the the
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top end when it says Airy generally a
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function once you get the mid-range
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right definitely a function of EQ so
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lots of equalizers you can add 1520 K
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stuff to get that air but then you get
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into a sibilant issue so it becomes a
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very high skill technique frankly of
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finding the right de-essing that's not
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allowing the high end to be too much but
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the air is kind of open up the top but
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then getting the mid-range carved out
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and making sure there's not too much
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bottom that's making you perceive that
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it's not Airy but the low mid range you
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want to be very careful with as well you
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know anywhere from a my opinion from 250
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to 2k very digits area make sure that
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you don't roll out too much at lower
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bottom so you don't lose the chest so
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that when you put the vocal in the
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record that is competing the bass Tom's
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all these different things that live in
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those areas are not you're not you've
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carved out so much that now the vocal
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sounds kind of thin and then supported
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so sometimes those judgments you got to
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make once you once you you know really
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focused in and you've made those changes
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and get to kind of focus back out and go
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like well what does it feel like in the
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record did I go too far or not far
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enough mr. caylor
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what's the process you use to create
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full warm buttery vocals that seem to
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surround you well I think we kind of
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touch a little bit on that was last
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question the full warm of course is that
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lower mid-range area and the buttery is
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to do the function of the mid-range
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versus the top in and the surround you
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then comes in two different coursing
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that you can use at different delays you
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can use different reverbs you can use
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you know a short review can be very
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disguisey to make something feel like
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it's kind of buttering warm and by the
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way you can EQ all those things on the
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return right so it doesn't mean you have
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to send something real warm you can send
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something that's been carved out the way
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you want it to and then in the return
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add some lower middle or bottom that
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makes you feel like it feels buttery
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warm and corrupt the mid-range little
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farther because it is the return on that
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course or that delay that usually kind
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of works very well for me Sebastian
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where do you think the future of music
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industry is going good or bad place
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obviously an extremely long discussion
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not not one minute answer so I think the
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simplest answer I can give you is
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obviously we now our part are now living
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in the digital revolution and it's been
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an absolute renaissance
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in terms of how people consume music
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listen to music by music and you know
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obviously the the YouTube component has
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got a lot of people listening to it
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because they want the visual as well as
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the auto audio but I think that as some
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of the smarter business brains start to
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come into our business and they start to
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realize there's that there's the
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potential to make money and those kind
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of minds help harness the digital
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revenue that is possible the truth is we
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could end up with more money than we
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know what to do with we're just not
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there yet we're in that place where
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we've moved from an analog world and
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we're moving into a digital world and
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not everybody knows exactly how to
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harness that how to deal with the
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finance of what it could be but imagine
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a world where all the digital domains
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start to have to pay a price or a tax
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or people's consciousness that to
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understand that just taking something is
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not cool and they need to like either
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subscribe to subscription base listening
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music or another River those Amazon I
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tune where they pay for it you know if
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that all starts to become part of the
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consciousness of pop culture and digital
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starts to get its ability to have a toll
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bridge of lack a barrier description
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we'll call it we would know to do the
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money so that's my hope Jesse do you mix
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with EQ compression or other processing
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them tube as if so which you must
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plug-in you tend to use thanks well
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obviously I definitely use compression
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on stereo buss and EQ compression for me
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is not level it never has been and I've
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said this a million times in a million
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different places I'm sure some of you
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that maybe have come across something of
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mine probably read it or seen it edit
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nauseam but I think that's because I
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hate the fact that a lot of people view
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compression as just getting it up loud
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compression as I've said a million times
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is the most musical piece of equipment
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we get to work with it's the only thing
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that changes time it has an actual time
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constant component where I can make
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something feel late and early and move
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around and wheeze and have a life that
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feels like it's error --air that i have
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a life work feels like it's moving in a
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beautiful way so that's right is the
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compression of stereo buss is I try to
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find something that is making the mix
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you know breathe and move and not feel
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one-dimensional but multiple dimensions
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to it because it's feeling like it's
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coming and going I've tried everything
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on the stereo bus I've tried every plug
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in avi analog Hardware piece you could
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imagine literally everything you could
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ever imagine
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I've tried it and I find myself you know
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obviously lots of times I'm going back
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to the standards you know the SSL
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obviously gets used a tremendous amount
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and some of the needs get used a
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tremendous amount but the plugins in the
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computer in protools
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that particular DAW
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I think a lot I think the you know l1
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and the l3 316 I mean there's a bunch of
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them that really sound cool UA has a
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couple things that are great you just
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have to just try it
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I honestly there's to me no go to if you
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want to go to I'm just going to say use
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SSL go to that'll work kind of never let
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you down but I don't know that that's
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always the best creative choice it's the
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safe choice it's going to work probably
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80% of the records have it on it but not
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necessarily creative choice and I'm
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always really liking to choose and try
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to find something creative because
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that's just how I hear things and then
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the EQ of course is is your choice again
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I like EQ after the compression probably
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eight out of ten times
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I don't like pushing the EQ into the
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compression unless I want that kind of
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an effect and I don't want to
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necessarily lose the EQ curve I'm adding
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because the compressor obviously is
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going to react to those frequencies that
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are pushing or taking out EQ on the bus
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you have to find something that you like
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without a shadow of a doubt all the
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plugins have a sound so you're
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identifying not just the sonic curve but
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you're also identifying the EQ choice in
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terms of how it sounds you know
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obviously am i this is my personal
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opinion
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you know first is like a focus right
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would have a certain sound sometime
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let's focus right plug-in or you can try
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the model 1073 that would have a sound
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you could throw in SSL channel strip
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that would have a sound without doing
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anything just going through it it's
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going to have a sound and you have to
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listen to it you know is this record
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real acoustic and beautiful maybe I want
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something like a Neve modeling maybe I
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want a couple quick texts you know that
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are very soft and pretty and beautiful
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maybe they'll put the band rule far and
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open the 15k the bandwidth and you know
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really open up make it sound beautiful
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or maybe it's a rock record where I want
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to be more aggressive you know I might
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use an SSL channel strip go for the
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three k 7'k that really pushes the
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record out hardcore you really got to
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use your ears you know what's difficult
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over the years is constantly trying to
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come
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people that there's not a go to and
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experimentation is your best friend the
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next question is from Martin Messi
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you are known for using a lot of vintage
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analog gear and using a lot of it for
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parallel compression and or other types
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of parallel treatment view have worked
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in Pro Tools with plugins can you share
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with us some of your choices of plugins
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and their uses I been working in Pro
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Tools extremely extremely excessively in
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the last six years
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and in the last two years a tremendous
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amount and I'd actually say more
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improved tools in an analog and analog
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of course is fantastic I love all my
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plugins I love all my analog gear I
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still think that most of us not all of
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us but most of us are still doing a
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hybrid between the two we're not totally
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ready to let go of the full amount of
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the analog because there's things that
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it does that Digital hasn't got to yet
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the modelling the digital world of
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course is getting better better better
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and better and better in some cases I
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think it's really like fantastic and as
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usable as hard workpiece in some cases
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they can get it so in the courses the
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cases where they didn't get it I would
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use it and that's obvious
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different types of plugins it says here
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that you can share on some of your
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choice trace some so I guess you want me
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to share some of my choice of plugins
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and their uses I one of my favorite
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plugins is audio tracks it's one of
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those compressors that really like a
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fairchild wheezes and moves in a way i
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really like you know it's got a light to
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it and I think it's great on overheads
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I've had it great on room mics sometimes
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on bass not too much too much success
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with guitar some of the EMI stuff is
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really great for guitar in terms of
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compression and even the EMI EQ stuff is
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really pretty stunning
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for guitar/vocals I find myself using a
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lot of the poor child and obviously not
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because I designed it and it's not my
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piece
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I've always liked Fairchild periods so
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I'm very comfortable with saying
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publicly that I think it's an incredible
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closed rendition in some ways better
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than even the analog piece and I've had
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maybe thirty five pair child's on my
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hands over the years it's excellent
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you'll find lots of times you can just
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put on the vocal turn it on you don't
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even have to do anything and it sounds
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amazing
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so those are a few ideas I guess we
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consider really to be honest we could go
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through hours and hours of it so weird
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thing this question because I find them
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people ask me what's your favorite
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record or favorite artist I always go
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kind of get stuck because when I think
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about it's like I don't know it's my
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favorite artists is my favorite record
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like I have lots of things I like feel
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like about the plugins you know probably
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if we were a little more relaxed I had a
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little more time and start talking
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between the two of us for instance I
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would start sharing like what about this
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plugin or about that plugin but those
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are some little quick ideas Josh do you
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work to set deadlines do you set a date
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time and finish the mix when that time
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comes do you find this effective way of
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keeping objectivity over the mix and if
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not what strategies do you use another
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fairly in-depth question a lot of
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different ways the answer I'll say this
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art if we look at records as art it's
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never finished it we could spend days
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tweaking changing things and never be
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100% happy or always feel like we could
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make something better
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so with art just one day or the record
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we'll call it one day just stops you
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just finish you finish because there's
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no money finish because it's a deadline
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you finish for whatever reason people
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are tired of it whatever it is you
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finish so I think setting a date and the
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time to finish is important I think it's
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really good for arrangements for
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production for recording for mixing all
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of us as artistic people can just keep
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going on and on and and and really
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getting different perspectives and
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of course we can pass it up but lots of
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times we can make it a lot better at
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least I like to think that and keeping
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the objectivity of the mix is really
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keeping a close pull sand look at
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yourself as you're working when you
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start to become tired of it or you feel
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like you're on a rescue mission or you
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feel like you gotta do different things
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because it's not feeding you probably
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time to stop work on another song work
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on another three songs come back come
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back the next day quit go have coffee
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get on the phone whatever it is you
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remind off it and come back to it that
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will give you objectivity without a
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shout-out even listening to some other
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mixes listen to some of the music just
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something to get your mind off of the
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insane focus you have sometimes when
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you're mixing a song and since there if
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not what strategies do you use I kind of
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just covered that so that'd be my answer
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to you Josh
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yes she loves me39642
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