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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:02,096 --> 00:00:04,037 (broadcaster speaking Korean) 3 00:00:04,043 --> 00:00:06,047 LISA (off screen): On September 3, 2017, 4 00:00:06,053 --> 00:00:10,091 a man-made earthquake, 6.3 on the Richter scale, 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:10,097 --> 00:00:13,011 is felt on the Korean peninsula. 7 00:00:14,081 --> 00:00:17,081 The North Korean leadership boasts a successful test 8 00:00:17,088 --> 00:00:19,038 of a hydrogen bomb. 9 00:00:19,045 --> 00:00:21,098 (crowd cheering) 10 00:00:22,005 --> 00:00:23,065 MAN (speaking Korean): As long as Kim Jong Un is with us, 11 00:00:23,072 --> 00:00:26,025 the victory, without question, will be ours. 12 00:00:26,032 --> 00:00:29,016 NEWSCASTER (on screen in Korean): Much congratulations must be given 13 00:00:29,022 --> 00:00:31,083 to our nuclear scientists and technicians. 14 00:00:31,089 --> 00:00:32,099 (dramatic music) 15 00:00:33,006 --> 00:00:34,060 LISA (off screen): The underground explosion 16 00:00:34,066 --> 00:00:38,047 strikes fear and anger throughout the international community. 17 00:00:38,053 --> 00:00:42,064 BESSHO: The Security Council must act to stop North Korea. 18 00:00:43,030 --> 00:00:46,017 NIKKI: We have kicked the can down the road long enough. 19 00:00:46,024 --> 00:00:48,031 There is no more road left. 20 00:00:49,031 --> 00:00:51,088 DAVID SANGER (off screen): I think they've come to the conclusion 21 00:00:51,095 --> 00:00:55,012 that they have a much greater chance of survival 22 00:00:55,018 --> 00:00:57,089 by being a threatening power than being a cooperative one. 23 00:00:59,049 --> 00:01:01,079 LISA (off screen): North Korea is the most secretive 24 00:01:01,086 --> 00:01:04,063 and isolated nation in the world, 25 00:01:04,069 --> 00:01:07,003 and its actions have been vexing America for 70 years. 26 00:01:10,053 --> 00:01:13,047 In 2006, I went undercover there 27 00:01:13,054 --> 00:01:15,064 and found a world of absolute conformity... 28 00:01:17,057 --> 00:01:19,044 Government minders... 29 00:01:19,051 --> 00:01:22,008 Tomorrow you're going out of our country. 30 00:01:22,081 --> 00:01:25,005 LISA (off screen): And unimaginable horrors 31 00:01:25,011 --> 00:01:27,055 that people risked their lives to escape... 32 00:01:27,062 --> 00:01:28,098 (man speaks Korean) 33 00:01:29,005 --> 00:01:34,012 I'd never felt as isolated as I did as soon as I touched down in North Korea. 34 00:01:34,019 --> 00:01:36,093 Then, three years later, it got personal 35 00:01:36,099 --> 00:01:39,079 when my sister Laura was abducted and imprisoned there 36 00:01:39,086 --> 00:01:41,083 while on assignment for Current TV. 37 00:01:42,036 --> 00:01:45,000 LAURA: The soldier raised the butt of his rifle 38 00:01:45,007 --> 00:01:48,007 and brought it down on my head, and I just blacked out. 39 00:01:48,014 --> 00:01:51,014 The next thing I know, I'm in North Korea. 40 00:01:52,087 --> 00:01:55,088 LISA: In the light of a new leader and increased global concern, 41 00:01:55,094 --> 00:01:59,098 I look back on my trip in 2006 and my sister's capture. 42 00:02:02,008 --> 00:02:06,009 Inside North Korea, Then and Now. 43 00:02:11,063 --> 00:02:13,086 (uneasy music) 44 00:02:13,093 --> 00:02:17,003 LISA (off screen): When I went into North Korea in 2006, 45 00:02:17,010 --> 00:02:18,057 the dear leader, Kim Jong Il, 46 00:02:18,063 --> 00:02:21,004 ruled with absolute power. 47 00:02:21,010 --> 00:02:23,017 ♪ ♪ 48 00:02:23,024 --> 00:02:26,084 He died on December 17, 2011. 49 00:02:28,018 --> 00:02:31,091 In the capital, Pyongyang, the funeral procession lasted for hours. 50 00:02:35,018 --> 00:02:39,005 The dear leader's disciples' grief will last much longer. 51 00:02:40,092 --> 00:02:44,033 His youngest son, Kim Jong Un, has become the third Kim 52 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:46,069 to rule this dynastic communist nation. 53 00:02:49,006 --> 00:02:51,027 He is called the supreme leader. 54 00:02:52,087 --> 00:02:54,030 To the watching world, 55 00:02:54,037 --> 00:02:58,014 not yet 30-year-old Kim Jong Un was an unknown, 56 00:02:58,021 --> 00:03:01,028 and is today still enigmatic and unpredictable. 57 00:03:03,061 --> 00:03:06,028 DAVID (off screen): When Kim Jong Un took power, 58 00:03:06,035 --> 00:03:11,015 he systematically went out and wiped out his opposition 59 00:03:11,022 --> 00:03:14,036 with a brutality that we had not really seen 60 00:03:14,042 --> 00:03:16,089 from his father or his grandfather 61 00:03:16,096 --> 00:03:20,020 and was smart enough to quickly change his appearance, 62 00:03:20,026 --> 00:03:22,006 his haircut, whatever 63 00:03:22,013 --> 00:03:27,047 to remind everybody of his grandfather, the country's founder, Kim Il Sung. 64 00:03:27,054 --> 00:03:29,037 He may have been young. He may have been callow. 65 00:03:29,044 --> 00:03:31,054 He may have been mistrusted. 66 00:03:32,004 --> 00:03:33,041 He came out on top. 67 00:03:34,084 --> 00:03:37,048 LISA (off screen): It is estimated Kim Jong Un has assassinated 68 00:03:37,055 --> 00:03:40,062 140 senior leaders, 69 00:03:40,068 --> 00:03:43,079 including an uncle and likely his half-brother. 70 00:03:45,019 --> 00:03:51,073 His regime has tested over 80 rockets, successfully launching ICBMs-- 71 00:03:51,079 --> 00:03:55,016 intercontinental ballistic missiles-- that threaten its enemies. 72 00:03:58,087 --> 00:04:00,054 In 2016, 73 00:04:00,060 --> 00:04:04,001 American college student Otto Warmbier, touring North Korea, 74 00:04:04,007 --> 00:04:08,091 was arrested and sentenced to 15 years' hard labor. 75 00:04:08,098 --> 00:04:11,058 OTTO: I beg for forgiveness. 76 00:04:12,018 --> 00:04:14,048 LISA (off screen): He was freed after 17 months, 77 00:04:14,055 --> 00:04:17,032 but not before mysteriously falling into a coma. 78 00:04:17,039 --> 00:04:21,039 He died shortly after his release. 79 00:04:21,046 --> 00:04:22,082 President Obama told 80 00:04:22,089 --> 00:04:25,066 then president-elect Trump that North Korea would be 81 00:04:25,073 --> 00:04:28,013 his most urgent international challenge. 82 00:04:28,086 --> 00:04:32,030 Every time there is a new American administration, 83 00:04:32,037 --> 00:04:34,054 it seems like the North Koreans 84 00:04:34,060 --> 00:04:38,011 try to test the new administration. 85 00:04:38,074 --> 00:04:43,021 The difference this time is, Kim Jong Un seems to be 86 00:04:43,028 --> 00:04:45,098 a lot more unpredictable than his father, 87 00:04:46,005 --> 00:04:51,005 and the United States' president, uh, is sort of an untested entity 88 00:04:51,012 --> 00:04:54,072 and is probably the most unpredictable president 89 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:57,063 who has ever sat in that seat as well. 90 00:04:57,069 --> 00:05:02,090 TRUMP: North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. 91 00:05:04,023 --> 00:05:11,014 They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. 92 00:05:11,021 --> 00:05:14,068 DAVID: What does Kim Jong Un want? 93 00:05:14,074 --> 00:05:16,014 What are his motives? 94 00:05:16,021 --> 00:05:20,021 Across the three Kim dictators, 95 00:05:20,028 --> 00:05:23,058 Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, and Kim Jong Un, 96 00:05:23,065 --> 00:05:25,092 there's been one common theme, 97 00:05:25,099 --> 00:05:29,002 which has been that their development 98 00:05:29,009 --> 00:05:33,049 of missiles and nuclear weapons and their effort to combine the two 99 00:05:33,056 --> 00:05:36,020 is the ultimate survival strategy, 100 00:05:36,026 --> 00:05:39,093 that their number-one concern is survival. 101 00:05:45,024 --> 00:05:48,028 People treat you differently as a nuclear power. 102 00:05:50,001 --> 00:05:53,095 LISA (off screen): The two successful ICBM launches in July 2017 103 00:05:54,002 --> 00:05:56,058 showed that Kim Jong Un has missiles 104 00:05:56,065 --> 00:06:00,009 that appear capable of reaching the continental United States. 105 00:06:01,006 --> 00:06:04,043 It puts the U.S. and North Korea on a collision course 106 00:06:04,049 --> 00:06:08,040 not seen since the Korean War 107 00:06:08,046 --> 00:06:13,017 and proves that its nuclear program is further along than previously thought. 108 00:06:14,097 --> 00:06:17,007 The nation even issues commemorative stamps 109 00:06:17,014 --> 00:06:18,097 celebrating the events. 110 00:06:19,004 --> 00:06:22,048 (suspenseful music) 111 00:06:22,054 --> 00:06:25,028 (upbeat music) 112 00:06:25,035 --> 00:06:28,095 North Korea has one of the largest militaries in the world. 113 00:06:30,012 --> 00:06:34,049 Parades like this boast awesome power to its people 114 00:06:34,056 --> 00:06:36,029 and an ominous message to its enemies. 115 00:06:38,023 --> 00:06:40,023 (applause) 116 00:06:43,046 --> 00:06:47,037 And the North Korean people believe they are still at war with America, 117 00:06:47,044 --> 00:06:50,020 though fighting ended in 1953. 118 00:06:51,024 --> 00:06:54,034 But the roots of North Korea's antagonism toward foreign powers 119 00:06:54,041 --> 00:06:56,034 goes back over a century. 120 00:06:59,005 --> 00:07:02,072 In 1910, Korea was colonized by Japan. 121 00:07:02,078 --> 00:07:04,049 (crowd clamoring) 122 00:07:04,055 --> 00:07:07,066 The brutal occupation ended more than 1,000 years 123 00:07:07,072 --> 00:07:14,070 of Korea's reign as a sovereign nation, and was a major source of shame. 124 00:07:16,033 --> 00:07:20,064 Japan lost Korea in World War II, and the country was split 125 00:07:20,070 --> 00:07:25,087 between the American-backed south and the Soviet-backed communist north, 126 00:07:25,094 --> 00:07:28,084 led by a young rebel named Kim Il Sung. 127 00:07:30,004 --> 00:07:31,075 (artillery booming) 128 00:07:31,081 --> 00:07:37,029 In 1950, Kim Il Sung invaded the south to unify the country, 129 00:07:37,035 --> 00:07:41,079 and the U.S. opposed communist expansion at all costs. 130 00:07:43,062 --> 00:07:47,003 As many as four million people died in the Korean War, 131 00:07:47,009 --> 00:07:51,037 which included some of the most brutal warfare the world has known. 132 00:07:52,010 --> 00:07:53,063 In a four-month period alone, 133 00:07:53,070 --> 00:07:57,017 the U.S. dropped nearly one million gallons of napalm. 134 00:07:58,021 --> 00:08:02,034 Most major cities in North Korea were at least half obliterated, 135 00:08:02,041 --> 00:08:04,038 including Pyongyang. 136 00:08:04,045 --> 00:08:09,018 In 1953, after three years of fighting, Korea remained divided 137 00:08:09,025 --> 00:08:13,086 in almost exactly the same place as it had been before the war began, 138 00:08:13,092 --> 00:08:14,099 the 38th parallel. 139 00:08:17,059 --> 00:08:23,040 There never was a peace treaty, rather a perpetual state of ceasefire. 140 00:08:25,047 --> 00:08:30,017 The joint security area on the border is the one place where North Korean forces 141 00:08:30,024 --> 00:08:33,051 stand toe to toe with the rest of the world. 142 00:08:36,044 --> 00:08:43,008 On one side of this concrete marker is North Korea, 143 00:08:43,015 --> 00:08:47,012 on the other, the joint American-South Korean forces. 144 00:08:50,012 --> 00:08:52,053 Every flinch is monitored. 145 00:08:52,059 --> 00:08:58,050 Neither side wants to blink, and nobody has for over 60 years. 146 00:08:59,090 --> 00:09:02,050 MICHAEL: You can see on the North Korean side 147 00:09:02,057 --> 00:09:05,034 how they're set up. They have two soldiers watching 148 00:09:05,041 --> 00:09:08,028 each other so neither of them defect. 149 00:09:08,034 --> 00:09:10,028 And then they have their leader to the north, making sure 150 00:09:10,034 --> 00:09:12,048 that no one else from the North will come down and defect. 151 00:09:14,018 --> 00:09:17,039 LISA (off screen): With everyone watching, no one can cross here. 152 00:09:18,002 --> 00:09:21,089 And defecting anywhere else along the DMZ is nearly impossible. 153 00:09:23,069 --> 00:09:26,003 The DMZ, or de-militarized zone, 154 00:09:26,009 --> 00:09:28,033 is a two-and-a-half-mile-wide buffer 155 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,080 along the border of north and south Korea. 156 00:09:32,007 --> 00:09:36,010 With more than a million landmines, high voltage electric fences, 157 00:09:36,017 --> 00:09:40,081 and nearly two million soldiers, crossing over is almost certain suicide. 158 00:09:42,001 --> 00:09:45,001 (uneasy music) 159 00:09:45,008 --> 00:09:49,015 ♪ ♪ 160 00:09:49,022 --> 00:09:50,089 South Korea's capitol, Seoul, 161 00:09:50,095 --> 00:09:55,022 is less than 40 miles away from the border, 162 00:09:55,029 --> 00:09:59,043 but what makes this place so dangerous is the uncertainty of what lies 163 00:09:59,049 --> 00:10:00,080 north of the divide. 164 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,017 North Korea, officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, 165 00:10:10,024 --> 00:10:12,081 is regarded as an "intelligence black hole." 166 00:10:13,064 --> 00:10:16,054 DAVID (off screen): I think you could certainly make a strong argument 167 00:10:16,061 --> 00:10:17,068 that North Korea has been 168 00:10:18,021 --> 00:10:21,012 the biggest intelligence failure for the United States 169 00:10:21,018 --> 00:10:24,032 since Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. 170 00:10:24,039 --> 00:10:27,086 The American intelligence agencies don't take much heat for this 171 00:10:27,092 --> 00:10:30,093 because everyone understands that North Korea is a very hard target... 172 00:10:31,096 --> 00:10:34,020 LISA (off screen): But we know some basic facts: 173 00:10:34,026 --> 00:10:37,023 North Korea is roughly the size of Mississippi. 174 00:10:37,030 --> 00:10:41,064 It has 25 million people, a showcase capital, Pyongyang, 175 00:10:41,070 --> 00:10:44,011 but vast poverty most everywhere else. 176 00:10:45,071 --> 00:10:51,035 All three Kims were and are absolute dictators, 177 00:10:51,041 --> 00:10:53,041 and worshipped in a personality cult 178 00:10:53,048 --> 00:10:57,012 perhaps more extreme than any other in history. 179 00:10:57,095 --> 00:10:59,049 DAVID (off screen): Not only do you have a population 180 00:10:59,055 --> 00:11:01,099 that has largely bought into the myth 181 00:11:02,006 --> 00:11:04,046 that this family is keeping them safe 182 00:11:04,053 --> 00:11:07,096 against the Americans who would overrun their territory, 183 00:11:08,003 --> 00:11:10,033 but that the myth all comes 184 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:15,010 out of the founding myth of Kim Il Sung, 185 00:11:15,017 --> 00:11:19,087 and that everybody else's authority 186 00:11:19,094 --> 00:11:23,074 comes from the fact that they descend from him. 187 00:11:23,081 --> 00:11:28,002 (crowd cheers) 188 00:11:28,008 --> 00:11:31,015 LISA (off screen): I'd never experienced a kind of roboticism 189 00:11:31,022 --> 00:11:32,079 like I experienced in North Korea. 190 00:11:33,079 --> 00:11:37,016 CROWD: Kim Jong Un, Kim Jong Un, Kim Jong Un. 191 00:11:37,022 --> 00:11:42,030 LISA: And it was really difficult to tell whether people really felt, um, 192 00:11:42,076 --> 00:11:44,097 as passionately about their dear leader 193 00:11:45,003 --> 00:11:48,087 or they felt compelled to act like they did. 194 00:11:51,024 --> 00:11:55,061 Everyone is trained from birth to love the leaders, 195 00:11:55,068 --> 00:11:59,015 and virtually no outside sources of information are allowed. 196 00:12:01,022 --> 00:12:04,069 Newspapers and television are controlled by the state. 197 00:12:04,075 --> 00:12:07,099 Many here don't even know a man has walked on the Moon. 198 00:12:08,082 --> 00:12:12,013 While the elites at the very top of North Korean society may have access 199 00:12:12,019 --> 00:12:16,090 to the global Internet, for millions of ordinary North Koreans, 200 00:12:16,096 --> 00:12:19,083 there's no way to connect to the outside world. 201 00:12:21,034 --> 00:12:25,071 And those elites with cell phones can only speak within its borders. 202 00:12:28,068 --> 00:12:30,075 It is this isolation from the rest of the world 203 00:12:30,081 --> 00:12:33,098 that earns North Korea the moniker, "The Hermit Kingdom." 204 00:12:37,042 --> 00:12:39,069 I had always been so curious about North Korea 205 00:12:39,075 --> 00:12:42,049 because it's just been this enigma in the world, 206 00:12:42,056 --> 00:12:45,046 the country about which the least is known. 207 00:12:45,053 --> 00:12:50,093 And so, when my renowned cataract surgeon friend Dr. Sanduk Ruit 208 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:56,040 invited me to follow along with him and his medical team, 209 00:12:56,047 --> 00:12:58,054 I jumped at the opportunity to go. 210 00:12:58,061 --> 00:13:01,031 The caveat, though, was that I couldn't say I was a journalist. 211 00:13:01,038 --> 00:13:05,055 I had to go under the auspices of being part of his medical team. 212 00:13:07,048 --> 00:13:10,025 Thousands of people in North Korea go blind 213 00:13:10,032 --> 00:13:13,035 due to a lack of even the most basic medical facilities. 214 00:13:15,099 --> 00:13:19,009 DR. RUIT (off screen): The annual number of surgeries performed 215 00:13:19,016 --> 00:13:22,026 is just, just very little. 216 00:13:22,033 --> 00:13:26,077 And the blindness magnitude is one of the highest in the world. 217 00:13:26,083 --> 00:13:30,060 LISA: Dr. Sanduk Ruit planned to travel from Nepal to North Korea 218 00:13:30,067 --> 00:13:34,038 to do more than 1,000 surgeries in less than 10 days. 219 00:13:34,094 --> 00:13:37,048 His mission was purely humanitarian. 220 00:13:39,028 --> 00:13:42,068 Our entire crew posed as members of Dr. Ruit's medical team. 221 00:13:43,052 --> 00:13:46,019 We were going to document his work and show the world what life 222 00:13:46,025 --> 00:13:48,092 was like inside North Korea. 223 00:13:48,099 --> 00:13:50,052 -...send it back. -DR RUIT: I'm sure you... 224 00:13:50,059 --> 00:13:52,026 LISA (off screen): This meeting in a Kathmandu hotel room 225 00:13:52,033 --> 00:13:55,060 was the last time our team could converse in private. 226 00:13:56,036 --> 00:13:58,033 So there will be a North Korean man 227 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,000 traveling with us the entire time? 228 00:14:00,007 --> 00:14:01,084 -DR. RUIT: Yes. -LISA: From here to Pyongyang? 229 00:14:01,090 --> 00:14:05,034 DR. RUIT: From here to Pyongyang and back to Kathmandu. 230 00:14:05,074 --> 00:14:08,028 LISA (off screen): North Korean minders met us in Nepal 231 00:14:08,034 --> 00:14:11,068 and monitored every step until the trip was over. 232 00:14:12,048 --> 00:14:15,068 Dr. Ruit knew our South African cameraman, Brian, and I 233 00:14:15,075 --> 00:14:18,019 would be watched very carefully. 234 00:14:19,082 --> 00:14:21,092 Do you think that Brian and I will be followed? 235 00:14:21,099 --> 00:14:24,053 DR. RUIT: I'm sure. 236 00:14:25,053 --> 00:14:27,019 LISA: And he was concerned that the cameras 237 00:14:27,026 --> 00:14:28,086 would attract too much attention 238 00:14:28,093 --> 00:14:30,070 as we entered the country... 239 00:14:30,076 --> 00:14:32,003 DR. RUIT: We can put the camera down there. 240 00:14:33,027 --> 00:14:35,014 LISA (off screen): And wanted to pack them more carefully, 241 00:14:35,020 --> 00:14:37,054 buried beneath the medical equipment. 242 00:14:37,061 --> 00:14:39,031 DR. RUIT: Okay, and pack it with linens. 243 00:14:45,025 --> 00:14:47,038 LISA (off screen): A North Korean official checks our luggage 244 00:14:47,045 --> 00:14:48,092 where our cameras are hidden. 245 00:14:51,045 --> 00:14:53,095 OFFICIAL: And everything is okay with the luggage. 246 00:14:55,049 --> 00:14:56,076 LISA (off screen): Two North Korean minders 247 00:14:56,082 --> 00:14:58,089 are already keeping an eye on things. 248 00:15:04,033 --> 00:15:06,003 DR. RUIT (off screen): All of us will be watched very carefully. 249 00:15:06,010 --> 00:15:09,014 I think you should shut the camera down now. 250 00:15:09,020 --> 00:15:12,054 LISA: In retrospect, I think I was a little naive. 251 00:15:12,061 --> 00:15:15,071 I was surprised that no one Googled who I was, 252 00:15:15,078 --> 00:15:18,021 because I was working for National Geographic at the time. 253 00:15:18,095 --> 00:15:23,075 But I thought that if it was ever discovered 254 00:15:23,082 --> 00:15:25,052 that I was a journalist, 255 00:15:25,059 --> 00:15:28,056 I would just be expelled from the country, 256 00:15:28,062 --> 00:15:34,070 so while I had my concerns, I wasn't that scared. 257 00:15:37,003 --> 00:15:39,013 But maybe I should have been. 258 00:15:40,030 --> 00:15:42,074 After hours in the air, we stole these shots 259 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,044 as we approached North Korea. 260 00:15:45,061 --> 00:15:48,001 Normally, Americans were not welcome there, 261 00:15:48,008 --> 00:15:52,058 and I was told I would be the only one in the entire country. 262 00:15:52,065 --> 00:15:55,018 (uneasy music) 263 00:15:55,025 --> 00:15:56,062 ♪ ♪ 264 00:15:56,068 --> 00:16:00,032 On the ground, we got our first glimpses of Pyongyang 265 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:02,079 and shot undercover footage, 266 00:16:02,086 --> 00:16:05,066 no easy task with minders in the car. 267 00:16:06,059 --> 00:16:12,017 We passed 12-lane highways with hardly any cars 268 00:16:12,023 --> 00:16:16,074 and saw images of Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il everywhere. 269 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,051 Pyongyang was and still is a city of the relatively privileged. 270 00:16:20,057 --> 00:16:24,031 The government rewards strong supporters by letting them live there. 271 00:16:25,035 --> 00:16:27,028 And unless you're a high-ranking official, 272 00:16:27,035 --> 00:16:30,022 you need a permit to travel anywhere in the country. 273 00:16:32,042 --> 00:16:34,036 So from the moment we landed in Pyongyang, 274 00:16:34,042 --> 00:16:35,092 I could tell I was in a place 275 00:16:35,099 --> 00:16:39,003 unlike any place I'd ever been before. 276 00:16:39,009 --> 00:16:42,090 All of our technological devices were removed from our possession. 277 00:16:42,096 --> 00:16:45,070 We had to check them into the airport. 278 00:16:45,077 --> 00:16:49,014 And we were assigned eight government minders, 279 00:16:49,020 --> 00:16:51,031 and they followed us everywhere. 280 00:16:51,037 --> 00:16:54,068 They even stayed in the guest houses where we were housed. 281 00:16:55,024 --> 00:16:56,071 And at a certain point, 282 00:16:56,078 --> 00:17:01,008 I realized that I was in Kim Jong Il's North Korea. 283 00:17:02,055 --> 00:17:05,005 When we reached the hospital, hundreds of blind people 284 00:17:05,012 --> 00:17:07,005 had already gathered for surgery. 285 00:17:09,052 --> 00:17:13,009 This hospital was probably as fancy as it got in North Korea. 286 00:17:13,036 --> 00:17:17,093 Most of the cutting-edge equipment had been donated by other countries, 287 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,067 but few doctors knew how to use it. 288 00:17:21,097 --> 00:17:23,020 DR. RUIT: This one is from America. 289 00:17:23,027 --> 00:17:25,081 Iris. Iris. 290 00:17:27,091 --> 00:17:30,041 LISA (off screen): The government let Dr. Ruit and his team come 291 00:17:30,048 --> 00:17:34,035 because it was a way for Kim Jong Il to get services to his people. 292 00:17:35,025 --> 00:17:37,089 Our team had to bring most of our equipment 293 00:17:37,095 --> 00:17:39,022 and supplies with us. 294 00:17:41,019 --> 00:17:44,036 And because blackouts were common, even here in the capital, 295 00:17:44,043 --> 00:17:46,059 we brought our own generator for power. 296 00:17:48,056 --> 00:17:50,086 I hoped we could see what life was really like here, 297 00:17:50,093 --> 00:17:54,033 but the government controlled our every move. 298 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,070 And the rare times that it had granted foreigners access, 299 00:17:57,077 --> 00:18:00,081 they had only been shown idealized versions of the country, 300 00:18:00,087 --> 00:18:05,018 like in this Dutch documentary called A Day In The Life. 301 00:18:07,015 --> 00:18:09,018 In this scene, a mother sings nursery rhymes 302 00:18:09,025 --> 00:18:11,045 as she walks her child to school. 303 00:18:11,052 --> 00:18:12,095 MOTHER (in Korean): Sing along. 304 00:18:13,002 --> 00:18:16,026 ♪ The pathetic Americans kneel on the ground ♪ 305 00:18:16,032 --> 00:18:18,053 ♪ They beg for mercy ♪ 306 00:18:18,059 --> 00:18:21,026 LISA (off screen): The film shows only the cheerful façade, 307 00:18:21,033 --> 00:18:23,073 because here, image matters. 308 00:18:27,003 --> 00:18:30,010 Back at the hospital, Dr. Ruit continued his mission. 309 00:18:31,031 --> 00:18:36,018 In the developed world, cataracts rarely get so bad, especially in young people, 310 00:18:36,024 --> 00:18:37,074 that they result in blindness. 311 00:18:39,051 --> 00:18:43,002 But here, because of poor care and likely poor nutrition, 312 00:18:43,008 --> 00:18:46,059 the incidence is as much as 10 times higher than in the West, 313 00:18:46,065 --> 00:18:49,052 and afflicts young and old alike. 314 00:18:53,036 --> 00:18:55,096 But in North Korea, cataracts are only a small part 315 00:18:56,003 --> 00:18:57,050 of the humanitarian nightmare. 316 00:19:00,083 --> 00:19:04,040 German physician and human rights activist Norbert Vollertsen 317 00:19:04,047 --> 00:19:06,051 worked for over a year in North Korea. 318 00:19:08,014 --> 00:19:11,035 He shot pictures of the horrible medical conditions. 319 00:19:11,041 --> 00:19:13,048 Bloody old operating tables... 320 00:19:13,055 --> 00:19:15,042 beer bottles for IVs... 321 00:19:15,048 --> 00:19:18,052 no antibiotics or anesthesia. 322 00:19:18,059 --> 00:19:20,075 NORBERT (off screen): Of course, the North Korean government will tell you 323 00:19:20,082 --> 00:19:22,046 everything is free in North Korea. 324 00:19:22,052 --> 00:19:25,039 It's not true because it's not available. 325 00:19:25,046 --> 00:19:27,079 There is no medicine. There's no running water. 326 00:19:27,086 --> 00:19:29,076 There's even no soap in the hospital. 327 00:19:29,083 --> 00:19:32,083 LISA (off screen): But it was the lack of food, and its effect on children, 328 00:19:32,090 --> 00:19:34,080 that made the most lasting impression. 329 00:19:35,014 --> 00:19:37,044 NORBERT (off screen): When I was a medical doctor in North Korea, 330 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:39,094 I saw a lot of starving children. 331 00:19:40,001 --> 00:19:42,058 I saw children dying under my hands 332 00:19:42,064 --> 00:19:45,071 when I was too late, when there was no more need 333 00:19:45,078 --> 00:19:50,092 for any emergency duty because the child was dying when I came into the room. 334 00:19:50,098 --> 00:19:53,005 So I felt so helpless. 335 00:19:53,012 --> 00:19:55,029 (uneasy music) 336 00:19:55,036 --> 00:19:56,059 LISA (off screen): In the mid-1990s, 337 00:19:56,066 --> 00:19:59,083 natural disasters and government mismanagement 338 00:19:59,089 --> 00:20:03,030 created a famine that killed up to three million people, 339 00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:05,093 about 10% of North Korea's population. 340 00:20:07,073 --> 00:20:10,070 Taking place in the heart of prosperous east Asia, 341 00:20:10,077 --> 00:20:13,074 it was one of the worst famines of the century. 342 00:20:13,081 --> 00:20:15,028 Surveys done in the early 2000s 343 00:20:15,034 --> 00:20:18,041 showed that nearly 40% of North Korean children 344 00:20:18,048 --> 00:20:20,031 were chronically malnourished. 345 00:20:21,082 --> 00:20:25,092 The average 7-year-old boy in North Korea was nearly 8 inches shorter 346 00:20:25,099 --> 00:20:29,026 and 22 pounds lighter than his brother in South Korea. 347 00:20:30,032 --> 00:20:32,073 AID WORKER (off screen): I'd say the damage to his bones is permanent. 348 00:20:32,079 --> 00:20:35,063 LISA (off screen): They were called "the stunted generation." 349 00:20:35,070 --> 00:20:37,063 MICHAEL (off screen): It's a tragic situation, 350 00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:38,037 and it's extraordinary, 351 00:20:38,043 --> 00:20:41,037 because same race, same people, same basic diet, 352 00:20:41,044 --> 00:20:45,024 and that's all malnutrition. 353 00:20:53,011 --> 00:20:55,018 LISA (off screen): Over time, the Kims isolated the country 354 00:20:55,025 --> 00:20:56,082 from much of the world, 355 00:20:56,088 --> 00:20:58,085 even cutting off foreign aid 356 00:20:58,092 --> 00:21:02,092 and communications with the neighbors to the south for long periods of time. 357 00:21:04,099 --> 00:21:08,000 So the way we were able to convince our North Korean minders 358 00:21:08,006 --> 00:21:11,020 that we needed to have our cameras with us at all times is, 359 00:21:11,027 --> 00:21:15,024 uh, that I said I was a medical student 360 00:21:15,030 --> 00:21:18,021 and I had to document everything that was happening. 361 00:21:18,094 --> 00:21:22,064 I thought that I would get a very skewed perspective of what life 362 00:21:22,071 --> 00:21:24,038 in North Korea would be like. 363 00:21:24,044 --> 00:21:28,038 I thought that I would just be resigned to just surgical facilities, 364 00:21:28,045 --> 00:21:30,082 but I decided after a few days 365 00:21:30,088 --> 00:21:34,002 to ask our minders if we could visit the home 366 00:21:34,009 --> 00:21:36,009 of a typical North Korean family. 367 00:21:36,016 --> 00:21:41,090 And to my complete shock, they agreed to take me to visit a family. 368 00:21:44,073 --> 00:21:47,037 LISA (off screen): Our minders led us to the home of a blind patient. 369 00:21:50,020 --> 00:21:52,041 The blind woman lived in a sixth-floor apartment 370 00:21:52,047 --> 00:21:54,001 in the heart of Pyongyang. 371 00:21:56,088 --> 00:22:00,055 Since I was told I was the only American in the country, I felt lucky, 372 00:22:00,061 --> 00:22:03,065 but a bit surprised, that the minders were willing to take me here. 373 00:22:03,072 --> 00:22:06,012 What a beautiful home! 374 00:22:06,019 --> 00:22:09,049 There were six government officials watching our every move. 375 00:22:10,006 --> 00:22:14,063 But it was still a rare chance to see inside a real North Korean home. 376 00:22:16,026 --> 00:22:19,013 Like others in Pyongyang, this was a privileged family. 377 00:22:19,077 --> 00:22:22,074 The woman lived there with four of her family members, 378 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,057 including her two granddaughters. 379 00:22:32,015 --> 00:22:35,028 The first thing I noticed was that there weren't any family pictures... 380 00:22:35,035 --> 00:22:39,012 just image after image of Kim Jong Il and his father. 381 00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:42,002 Of all their pictures, which is your favorite picture? 382 00:22:42,009 --> 00:22:44,073 MAN (speaking Korean): Every picture is our favorite. 383 00:22:44,079 --> 00:22:47,056 TRANSLATOR (off screen): Every, every photo of... 384 00:22:47,063 --> 00:22:51,000 LISA: Of course, every picture, absolutely. 385 00:22:52,010 --> 00:22:54,074 We were warned to photograph the dear leader carefully... 386 00:22:56,044 --> 00:22:58,021 So from here up? 387 00:22:58,027 --> 00:23:00,001 What happens if it's only half? 388 00:23:00,007 --> 00:23:02,071 What happens? Why not? 389 00:23:02,078 --> 00:23:04,001 No? Oh, okay. 390 00:23:06,028 --> 00:23:08,058 We weren't supposed to ask why. 391 00:23:08,065 --> 00:23:12,065 We were supposed to sit down and be entertained by the granddaughter. 392 00:23:13,095 --> 00:23:17,092 We wanted to talk to people, but under the watchful eye of the minders, 393 00:23:17,099 --> 00:23:19,099 this was what we got. 394 00:23:20,059 --> 00:23:23,050 (upbeat music playing) 395 00:23:23,056 --> 00:23:30,057 ♪ ♪ 396 00:23:35,098 --> 00:23:38,004 Wow, that's amazing. 397 00:23:38,011 --> 00:23:39,085 (clapping) 398 00:23:39,091 --> 00:23:42,005 (speaking in Korean) 399 00:23:42,012 --> 00:23:44,095 Finally, we sat down with the family and asked a few questions. 400 00:23:45,055 --> 00:23:49,099 How difficult is life for your mother without sight? 401 00:23:50,006 --> 00:23:52,093 The son-in-law answered without missing a beat. 402 00:23:52,099 --> 00:23:54,086 MAN (speaking Korean): The most difficult thing for my mother-in-law 403 00:23:54,093 --> 00:24:00,013 is not seeing Kim Jong Il, the Dear Leader. 404 00:24:01,007 --> 00:24:06,081 LISA: Why do you want to see this supreme leader so much, so bad? 405 00:24:06,087 --> 00:24:10,024 BLIND WOMAN (speaking Korean): My children and I live happily 406 00:24:10,031 --> 00:24:16,028 due to the honor of our Great Leader, 407 00:24:16,035 --> 00:24:18,025 so I want to see him, 408 00:24:18,032 --> 00:24:23,039 even a glimpse of him, so I can thank him. 409 00:24:25,023 --> 00:24:28,036 LISA (off screen): She was obviously moved, but what surprised me was, 410 00:24:28,043 --> 00:24:29,090 so was everyone else. 411 00:24:31,013 --> 00:24:34,057 This party official is crying. Even this government minder. 412 00:24:35,017 --> 00:24:37,040 MINDER (speaking Korean): As I listened to her, I started to cry. 413 00:24:37,047 --> 00:24:40,031 If our nation and leader didn't exist, 414 00:24:40,037 --> 00:24:42,038 we might as well be dead. 415 00:24:43,068 --> 00:24:45,015 My father was killed, 416 00:24:46,011 --> 00:24:49,005 so I was raised in the arms of our Dear Leader, 417 00:24:49,012 --> 00:24:51,085 and now I'm a party member. 418 00:24:51,092 --> 00:24:53,059 LISA: Uh, I just wonder... 419 00:24:53,065 --> 00:24:55,069 can the Great Leader do anything wrong? 420 00:24:56,092 --> 00:24:57,072 MAN (off screen): What? 421 00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:59,076 LISA (off screen): Can the Great Leader do anything wrong? 422 00:25:00,089 --> 00:25:02,083 Is there anything wrong? 423 00:25:02,090 --> 00:25:06,047 Or he's always, what he says is, is magical? 424 00:25:08,054 --> 00:25:09,050 MAN (off screen): I couldn't understand what you are saying. 425 00:25:09,057 --> 00:25:11,010 LISA (off screen): Okay. 426 00:25:11,017 --> 00:25:18,011 I truly believe that our minder did not understand my question, 427 00:25:18,018 --> 00:25:21,021 because I think he may have perceived me 428 00:25:21,028 --> 00:25:24,038 to be questioning the authority of the Dear Leader 429 00:25:24,045 --> 00:25:27,055 and that was something just incomprehensible, 430 00:25:27,062 --> 00:25:30,056 and so he didn't even understand 431 00:25:30,062 --> 00:25:34,086 how to translate such a question. 432 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,086 North Korea is a very small country. 433 00:25:37,093 --> 00:25:44,084 How does the Great Leader defend it against big powers like America? 434 00:25:44,091 --> 00:25:47,094 MINDER (speaking Korean): Even though North Korea is small, 435 00:25:48,001 --> 00:25:52,055 we serve the greatest leader in the world. 436 00:25:52,061 --> 00:25:55,028 We have a strong arm of unity 437 00:25:55,035 --> 00:25:58,035 which is stronger than America's atomic bombs. 438 00:26:01,005 --> 00:26:05,029 America has no idea how to deal with us. 439 00:26:08,016 --> 00:26:10,053 This is all because we have General Kim Jon Il 440 00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:14,027 as the leader of our nation. 441 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,034 LISA (off screen): As the conversation wound down, 442 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,067 I wondered, where did North Korea's willingness 443 00:26:19,074 --> 00:26:22,068 to face down the entire world come from? 444 00:26:22,074 --> 00:26:24,004 MINDER (speaking Korean): Our country's unity is stronger 445 00:26:24,011 --> 00:26:26,021 than a nuclear weapon, 446 00:26:26,028 --> 00:26:28,065 so we're not afraid. 447 00:26:28,072 --> 00:26:32,005 LISA (off screen): How did this powerful mindset take hold? 448 00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:36,092 North Korea's defiant stance toward the rest of the world 449 00:26:36,099 --> 00:26:41,083 stems from a philosophy created by Kim Il Sung, called Juche. 450 00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:45,053 MICHAEL (off screen): The Juche philosophy basically means 451 00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:48,023 "up yours" to the outside world. 452 00:26:48,030 --> 00:26:51,064 We can make everything ourself; we don't need you. 453 00:26:51,071 --> 00:26:54,094 And from an outsider's perspective, it's a peculiar thing. 454 00:26:55,001 --> 00:26:59,095 Why make such a big deal out of being independent? 455 00:27:01,001 --> 00:27:01,092 Your people are starving. 456 00:27:01,098 --> 00:27:06,049 You've got no economy. You've got no trade. 457 00:27:06,055 --> 00:27:09,002 But in the Korean context, 458 00:27:09,009 --> 00:27:12,056 it has a profound resonance, because Korean history 459 00:27:12,063 --> 00:27:17,056 is one of invasion and all sorts of abuse 460 00:27:17,063 --> 00:27:19,070 from major powers. 461 00:27:19,077 --> 00:27:23,060 So the North Koreans turned this history around 462 00:27:23,087 --> 00:27:27,011 and said, "We're not going to take it anymore." 463 00:27:27,017 --> 00:27:32,061 And for Koreans, there is a very profound thrill 464 00:27:32,068 --> 00:27:36,082 that somebody would have the guts to stand up and be like that. 465 00:27:36,088 --> 00:27:40,079 LISA (off screen): Juche ideology is still used to run North Korea 466 00:27:40,085 --> 00:27:42,059 with an iron fist, 467 00:27:42,066 --> 00:27:45,076 and for each Kim leader to wield absolute power. 468 00:27:47,069 --> 00:27:53,023 It also supported the god-like status of Kim Il Sung during a 50-year reign. 469 00:27:55,007 --> 00:28:00,061 REPORTER (speaking Korean): The Great Leader's hearse is approaching. 470 00:28:00,067 --> 00:28:02,064 LISA (off screen): When Kim Il Sung died in 1994, 471 00:28:02,071 --> 00:28:05,018 he left behind a traumatized nation. 472 00:28:05,025 --> 00:28:07,095 REPORTER (speaking Korean): The Great Leader, is this true? 473 00:28:08,001 --> 00:28:09,068 Are you leaving without us? 474 00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:15,079 LISA (off screen): His son, Kim Jong Il, took power 475 00:28:15,086 --> 00:28:18,063 in the world's first communist dynastic handover. 476 00:28:18,069 --> 00:28:21,023 (uneasy music) 477 00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:24,073 ♪ ♪ 478 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,080 Following in his father's footsteps, Kim Jong Il ruled by fear. 479 00:28:32,007 --> 00:28:37,081 And now his son Kim Jong Un continues to use the Juche ideology of self-reliance 480 00:28:37,088 --> 00:28:41,021 to unify the nation and crush all dissent. 481 00:28:46,015 --> 00:28:47,072 LISA (off screen): On our final evening in North Korea, 482 00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:50,016 Dr. Ruit worked late into the night 483 00:28:50,022 --> 00:28:53,063 to reach his goal of operating on 1,000 patients. 484 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,043 He believes in humanitarian engagement with all the countries of the world, 485 00:28:59,050 --> 00:29:00,090 whatever their politics. 486 00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:05,074 DR. RUIT: The North Korean people have two eyes, like you and me, 487 00:29:05,081 --> 00:29:08,004 they have a mouth, and they have teeth, you know. 488 00:29:08,011 --> 00:29:12,055 And it's for the world in general to understand that in North Korea, 489 00:29:12,061 --> 00:29:15,058 we have a lot of people who need our love. 490 00:29:16,052 --> 00:29:19,052 (somber music) 491 00:29:19,059 --> 00:29:22,009 ♪ ♪ 492 00:29:22,016 --> 00:29:23,089 LISA (off screen): At the hospital, the cataract patients 493 00:29:23,096 --> 00:29:25,056 were waiting for Dr. Ruit 494 00:29:25,063 --> 00:29:27,023 to remove their bandages. 495 00:29:28,066 --> 00:29:32,027 But they still didn't know if they would be able to see. 496 00:29:34,063 --> 00:29:37,014 It was so fascinating to be in this room. 497 00:29:37,020 --> 00:29:39,017 It was almost like a theater, 498 00:29:39,024 --> 00:29:44,034 and as they were removing the bandages from the patients, 499 00:29:44,041 --> 00:29:49,038 one would think that they would be so 500 00:29:49,045 --> 00:29:53,062 expressive of gratitude to the surgical team 501 00:29:53,069 --> 00:29:58,066 that restored their vision, um, but what I saw was something entirely different. 502 00:29:59,059 --> 00:30:01,069 DR. RUIT (off screen): We did a little more than 1,000 surgeries 503 00:30:01,076 --> 00:30:03,016 and all with very good results, 504 00:30:03,023 --> 00:30:04,033 no infections. 505 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,010 That aspect, I feel okay. 506 00:30:09,054 --> 00:30:12,064 LISA (off screen): The minder gave us one last warning 507 00:30:12,071 --> 00:30:14,087 to shoot only the full image of the dear leader. 508 00:30:19,091 --> 00:30:23,072 The moment of truth came first for a 23-year-old woman. 509 00:30:24,042 --> 00:30:25,072 She came with her father 510 00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:28,019 and had been completely blind for years. 511 00:30:28,025 --> 00:30:35,026 ♪ ♪ 512 00:30:37,013 --> 00:30:38,077 DR. RUIT: Ask her to open her eyes. 513 00:30:38,083 --> 00:30:41,010 (man translating into Korean) 514 00:30:47,027 --> 00:30:48,074 Can she touch my nose? 515 00:30:51,088 --> 00:30:53,088 Ask her where is her father? 516 00:30:56,005 --> 00:30:59,015 WOMAN (speaking Korean): Dad! 517 00:30:59,022 --> 00:31:00,079 MAN (speaking Korean): Can you see? 518 00:31:00,085 --> 00:31:02,059 WOMAN (speaking Korean): Yes! I can see very well. 519 00:31:04,046 --> 00:31:07,006 MAN (speaking Korean): It's all because of the Great General. 520 00:31:07,013 --> 00:31:09,083 We must bow to our Great General for this. 521 00:31:09,090 --> 00:31:10,080 WOMAN (speaking Korean): Yes, Dad. 522 00:31:10,086 --> 00:31:14,053 MAN (speaking Korean): Thank you, Great General! 523 00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:19,004 WOMAN (speaking Korean): I want to show my gratitude to our Great General! 524 00:31:19,011 --> 00:31:22,014 MAN AND WOMAN (in Korean): ♪ Thank you very, very much ♪ 525 00:31:22,021 --> 00:31:24,088 ♪ Our Great General Kim Jong Il ♪ 526 00:31:24,094 --> 00:31:26,005 (applause) 527 00:31:26,011 --> 00:31:28,075 ♪ Thank you very, very much ♪ 528 00:31:28,082 --> 00:31:29,098 ♪ Our Great General Kim Jong Il ♪ 529 00:31:30,005 --> 00:31:32,092 We praise you! 530 00:31:33,092 --> 00:31:37,012 We praise you! 531 00:31:37,019 --> 00:31:40,053 LISA (off screen): Then we spotted the grandmother we had visited at home. 532 00:31:41,059 --> 00:31:44,040 She had been waiting for years to see the dear leader. 533 00:31:47,020 --> 00:31:49,004 And she was not disappointed. 534 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,028 WOMAN (speaking Korean): Thank you! 535 00:31:56,001 --> 00:31:58,048 Thank you! 536 00:31:58,054 --> 00:32:03,078 (applause) 537 00:32:03,085 --> 00:32:06,072 Great Leader, I wish you great health. 538 00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:10,062 How kind you are to hold an old woman like me in your arms. 539 00:32:11,099 --> 00:32:14,066 (applause) 540 00:32:17,090 --> 00:32:20,010 LISA: It was just so, it was so surreal. 541 00:32:20,017 --> 00:32:25,047 And I couldn't tell if they truly believed it 542 00:32:25,054 --> 00:32:29,021 or they felt like they had to do it, 543 00:32:29,028 --> 00:32:32,068 because if they didn't do it, they might pay the consequences. 544 00:32:32,075 --> 00:32:37,098 MAN (speaking Korean): With these eyes that I've received, 545 00:32:38,005 --> 00:32:44,019 I will grab a gun and kill every one of the American enemies 546 00:32:44,026 --> 00:32:46,089 and terminate them far from this Earth! 547 00:32:48,016 --> 00:32:50,026 (applause) 548 00:32:50,033 --> 00:32:51,090 LISA (off screen): After I left North Korea, I certainly breathed 549 00:32:51,097 --> 00:32:53,043 a huge sigh of relief, 550 00:32:53,050 --> 00:32:59,067 and I never thought that I would have any dealings with that country again. 551 00:33:01,047 --> 00:33:04,094 Then our family went into crisis when my sister Laura 552 00:33:05,001 --> 00:33:07,038 was abducted and imprisoned there. 553 00:33:10,032 --> 00:33:12,079 LAURA: In March of 2009, I was working on a documentary 554 00:33:12,085 --> 00:33:14,049 about North Korean defectors, 555 00:33:14,055 --> 00:33:17,006 people who are fleeing 556 00:33:17,012 --> 00:33:19,063 the very desperate conditions in North Korea. 557 00:33:19,069 --> 00:33:23,090 And during that time, we were filming along the Tumen River. 558 00:33:23,096 --> 00:33:27,007 This is the river that separates China and North Korea. 559 00:33:27,013 --> 00:33:29,027 And it was frozen at the time. 560 00:33:29,034 --> 00:33:33,001 And so, we were literally standing on that frozen river 561 00:33:33,007 --> 00:33:36,081 when two North Korean soldiers spotted us. 562 00:33:36,088 --> 00:33:39,028 They chased us into China 563 00:33:39,035 --> 00:33:44,072 and then very violently dragged my colleague, Euna Lee, and me, 564 00:33:44,078 --> 00:33:47,002 across that river into North Korea. 565 00:33:49,016 --> 00:33:53,016 LISA: In the middle of the night, while my husband and I were sleeping, 566 00:33:53,023 --> 00:33:56,030 my sister's husband called, and he said, 567 00:33:56,036 --> 00:34:00,050 "Laura was abducted by North Korean soldiers," 568 00:34:00,057 --> 00:34:02,077 and my heart just sank. 569 00:34:04,017 --> 00:34:07,034 LAURA (off screen): And I was pretty bruised up, and bloodied. 570 00:34:08,011 --> 00:34:13,041 And I just tried to keep my wits about me, 571 00:34:13,048 --> 00:34:16,012 but I was so scared. 572 00:34:19,015 --> 00:34:22,019 We were eventfully transferred to Pyongyang. 573 00:34:22,026 --> 00:34:26,019 Euna and I were separated for the remainder of our captivity. 574 00:34:26,026 --> 00:34:29,040 And that's when the real formal interrogation began. 575 00:34:29,046 --> 00:34:34,057 And I was grilled every day, for hours on end, day after day. 576 00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:40,041 One of the most difficult parts was trying to convince them that I was not a spy. 577 00:34:40,047 --> 00:34:45,031 It didn't help that the co-founder and chairman of the company 578 00:34:45,038 --> 00:34:49,038 that I worked for at the time, Current TV, was former vice president Al Gore, 579 00:34:49,045 --> 00:34:54,042 so that immediately made them suspicious that I had ties to the government. 580 00:34:55,022 --> 00:34:59,003 One day, my interrogator came in, and he was carrying a file. 581 00:35:00,003 --> 00:35:04,000 And it was all about my sister, and the projects she had worked on. 582 00:35:04,006 --> 00:35:05,036 He was very upset. 583 00:35:06,063 --> 00:35:09,040 Very upset, very suspicious, 584 00:35:09,047 --> 00:35:12,027 and he immediately accused both Lisa and me 585 00:35:12,034 --> 00:35:14,037 of trying to bring down the North Korean government. 586 00:35:16,014 --> 00:35:18,014 Euna and I became the first Americans 587 00:35:18,021 --> 00:35:20,015 to be tried in North Korea's highest court. 588 00:35:21,075 --> 00:35:25,045 And on the day of our sentencing, the judge and his two associates 589 00:35:25,052 --> 00:35:27,019 left the room to deliberate. 590 00:35:27,025 --> 00:35:30,019 They left for five minutes, and they returned with their judgment, 591 00:35:30,026 --> 00:35:32,029 and that was 12 years of hard labor. 592 00:35:32,036 --> 00:35:33,096 (ominous music) 593 00:35:34,003 --> 00:35:36,096 LISA (off screen): Back in 2006, we interviewed a North Korean defector 594 00:35:37,003 --> 00:35:38,070 who had spent time 595 00:35:38,076 --> 00:35:41,030 in one of the notorious North Korean prisons, 596 00:35:41,037 --> 00:35:48,021 and he described it as just an absolutely heinous 597 00:35:48,027 --> 00:35:52,048 and insidious place to be, and so the thought 598 00:35:52,055 --> 00:35:55,078 of my sister going there was just unimaginable. 599 00:35:56,048 --> 00:36:00,025 And I was terrified, I was absolutely terrified. 600 00:36:00,032 --> 00:36:04,009 LAURA: The judge shouted, "No forgiveness, no appeal." 601 00:36:05,083 --> 00:36:09,063 And I just clutched onto the podium. 602 00:36:09,070 --> 00:36:12,047 I was standing at a podium, and I just clutched onto it 603 00:36:12,053 --> 00:36:14,000 to keep from falling over. 604 00:36:14,097 --> 00:36:16,034 And I told my interrogator. 605 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,050 I said, "Let me talk to my sister. 606 00:36:18,057 --> 00:36:21,011 "I don't know what it is that you want, 607 00:36:21,017 --> 00:36:23,091 but whatever it is, I can try to convey to her 608 00:36:23,098 --> 00:36:27,078 what you may want and maybe she can help out here." 609 00:36:27,085 --> 00:36:30,005 LISA: The consensus from the State Department, 610 00:36:30,012 --> 00:36:31,025 from Vice President Gore, 611 00:36:31,032 --> 00:36:35,076 from every official-type person that we'd spoken to was, keep it quiet. 612 00:36:36,066 --> 00:36:38,076 We don't want to antagonize the North Koreans, 613 00:36:38,082 --> 00:36:40,036 we don't know what happened, 614 00:36:40,043 --> 00:36:42,053 so let's keep this out of the press. 615 00:36:43,020 --> 00:36:46,040 And one of the first things I said to my sister was, 616 00:36:46,047 --> 00:36:48,007 "We've been keeping this quiet." 617 00:36:48,013 --> 00:36:52,064 And she said, "No, we need to change that." 618 00:36:54,017 --> 00:36:55,091 LAURA (off screen): It became very clear to me 619 00:36:55,098 --> 00:36:57,098 that the North Korean authorities wanted a visit 620 00:36:58,038 --> 00:37:00,098 from former president Bill Clinton, 621 00:37:01,005 --> 00:37:03,042 that they wanted him to serve as the envoy. 622 00:37:03,048 --> 00:37:07,062 And so, in a phone call to my sister, I asked, 623 00:37:07,069 --> 00:37:12,063 "Do you think that President Clinton can come here to rescue us?" 624 00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:14,056 And she was very quiet. 625 00:37:14,063 --> 00:37:17,096 I mean, there was a period of just silence, 626 00:37:18,003 --> 00:37:23,087 and I think because she realized that that was going to be a very tricky request, 627 00:37:23,094 --> 00:37:27,081 especially since Hillary Clinton was the current secretary of state. 628 00:37:28,054 --> 00:37:31,038 LISA: After that first phone call, I sort of launched 629 00:37:31,044 --> 00:37:34,035 this media campaign of deference 630 00:37:34,041 --> 00:37:36,002 to the North Korean government. 631 00:37:36,008 --> 00:37:40,065 Knowing how sensitive the North Korean government is, 632 00:37:40,072 --> 00:37:45,016 knowing, as an Asian, how important saving face is. 633 00:37:45,022 --> 00:37:49,086 I knew that we had to communicate to the North Korean government 634 00:37:49,093 --> 00:37:54,073 how sorry my sister was and how we had to beg for mercy, 635 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:59,047 and beg them publicly to forgive the mistake 636 00:37:59,054 --> 00:38:05,051 or at least release my sister and her colleague on humanitarian grounds. 637 00:38:08,025 --> 00:38:10,045 LAURA (off screen): I was also allowed letters. 638 00:38:10,052 --> 00:38:15,072 I devoured each and every word, memorized every letter that I received. 639 00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:20,036 "I so desperately wanted to reach right through the phone when you called 640 00:38:20,043 --> 00:38:22,019 "and just pull you back home to me. 641 00:38:22,026 --> 00:38:24,013 I can't believe this is still happening." 642 00:38:30,054 --> 00:38:32,044 LAURA (off screen): My sister's letters were really strategic. 643 00:38:32,051 --> 00:38:35,001 Lisa always expressed messages of deference and respect 644 00:38:35,007 --> 00:38:38,064 to the North Korean authorities, 645 00:38:38,071 --> 00:38:41,038 always apologizing. 646 00:38:41,088 --> 00:38:44,082 And she knew I was not the only one reading those letters. 647 00:38:44,088 --> 00:38:47,072 In fact, sometimes they would arrive with coffee stains on them. 648 00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:49,056 LISA: After Vice President Gore 649 00:38:49,062 --> 00:38:52,016 had gotten President Clinton to agree to go, 650 00:38:52,022 --> 00:38:54,003 we had a conference call. 651 00:38:55,006 --> 00:39:01,063 It was a secret mission to North Korea, and it all happened very, very quickly. 652 00:39:02,060 --> 00:39:05,064 Images of President Clinton landing in North Korea 653 00:39:05,071 --> 00:39:07,067 started to emerge on television. 654 00:39:07,074 --> 00:39:14,068 And there to greet him was a-a jubilant-looking Kim Jong Il. 655 00:39:14,075 --> 00:39:16,098 LAURA (off screen): It became pretty apparent to me 656 00:39:17,005 --> 00:39:20,012 when there was a news report on in the guards' room. 657 00:39:20,052 --> 00:39:25,062 And I heard the North Korean newscaster, 658 00:39:25,069 --> 00:39:28,033 and I heard her say, "Clinton," 659 00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:30,023 in this booming voice. 660 00:39:30,030 --> 00:39:35,010 And I looked at the TV, and I could see the report 661 00:39:35,017 --> 00:39:40,001 about the meeting that had gone on between President Clinton and Kim Jong Il. 662 00:39:40,007 --> 00:39:46,021 And Euna and I were together at that time, and I said, "What is she saying, Euna?" 663 00:39:46,028 --> 00:39:52,018 And she said that there was a warm meeting between Kim Jong Il and President Clinton. 664 00:39:52,025 --> 00:39:54,062 And I looked at her, and I said, you know, "We're going home." 665 00:39:55,019 --> 00:39:58,066 REPORTER (off screen): After 140 days of fear and uncertainty, 666 00:39:58,072 --> 00:40:02,093 Laura Ling and Euna Lee walked away from North Korea free women again, 667 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,063 looking well and bound for home. 668 00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:09,084 LAURA: When he met with Kim Jong Il, Kim Jong Il had told Clinton 669 00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:14,044 that when Kim Jong Il's father, Kim Il Sung, passed away in 1994, 670 00:40:14,051 --> 00:40:18,011 Clinton was the first leader to call Kim Jong Il 671 00:40:18,018 --> 00:40:22,031 to offer his condolences, even before Kim's own allies. 672 00:40:22,038 --> 00:40:25,082 Kim told Clinton that he always remembered that gesture, 673 00:40:25,089 --> 00:40:28,025 and had wanted to meet him ever since. 674 00:40:28,032 --> 00:40:31,032 (gentle music) 675 00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:36,013 ♪ ♪ 676 00:40:36,020 --> 00:40:38,096 And I think that it's so wild to think 677 00:40:39,003 --> 00:40:44,047 that that gesture that happened so many years before 678 00:40:44,054 --> 00:40:47,027 could have been responsible for our freedom. 679 00:40:49,081 --> 00:40:53,068 And I think it also shows how there was 680 00:40:53,075 --> 00:40:59,069 a mutual civility between the two leaders that allowed diplomacy to really work. 681 00:41:01,012 --> 00:41:05,099 LISA (off screen): Now, a decade later, Kim Jong Un enjoys the devotion and power 682 00:41:06,006 --> 00:41:07,063 his father and grandfather had. 683 00:41:07,069 --> 00:41:11,050 He also seems to have a penchant for wanting to be on the world stage. 684 00:41:12,023 --> 00:41:15,043 DAVID (off screen): Kim Jong Un, like his father and his grandfather, 685 00:41:15,050 --> 00:41:20,011 has played an extremely weak hand brilliantly. 686 00:41:20,017 --> 00:41:23,081 There are people who are looking out there and say this man's crazy. 687 00:41:24,091 --> 00:41:30,038 If so, he is crazy, 688 00:41:30,045 --> 00:41:36,066 but a pretty brilliant strategist, a pretty brutal player, 689 00:41:36,072 --> 00:41:42,003 and pretty savvy at understanding 690 00:41:42,009 --> 00:41:48,023 how small technological edges in nuclear and in cyber 691 00:41:48,030 --> 00:41:53,037 enable him to have the power to reach out 692 00:41:53,044 --> 00:41:56,071 at the United States and other enemies. 693 00:41:56,078 --> 00:42:00,071 LISA: According to North Korea, their country has technically been at war 694 00:42:00,078 --> 00:42:03,008 with the United States for decades, 695 00:42:03,015 --> 00:42:09,069 and in many respects, I think that they do need to feel that tension 696 00:42:09,076 --> 00:42:14,059 between our two countries, because otherwise they would start to question 697 00:42:14,066 --> 00:42:19,027 the regime about why there's so much poverty and devastation. 698 00:42:19,033 --> 00:42:26,001 By having this enemy to focus on, it gives, uh, a pass 699 00:42:26,007 --> 00:42:28,001 to their own government 700 00:42:28,007 --> 00:42:30,094 for not providing sufficiently for its people. 701 00:42:32,038 --> 00:42:33,071 DAVID (off screen): Certainly, the North Koreans want 702 00:42:33,078 --> 00:42:37,045 to be treated with respect as a significant power, 703 00:42:37,052 --> 00:42:42,049 but they have no illusions that they will get there by integration, 704 00:42:42,056 --> 00:42:44,072 economic integration, with the West. 705 00:42:46,006 --> 00:42:49,063 Do I think that the North Koreans would pick up a nuclear weapon 706 00:42:49,070 --> 00:42:51,070 and lob it at the United States? 707 00:42:51,076 --> 00:42:56,070 No, because 45 minutes later, that would be the end of the regime. 708 00:42:57,084 --> 00:43:00,014 Do I think that they might use the threat 709 00:43:00,021 --> 00:43:02,078 that they could hold American cities hostage 710 00:43:02,084 --> 00:43:06,051 as a way to get something else that they want? 711 00:43:07,081 --> 00:43:11,038 Yeah, I think that's completely within their capability. 712 00:43:12,075 --> 00:43:15,045 LISA (off screen): According to the Korean central news agency, 713 00:43:15,052 --> 00:43:17,039 Kim Jong Un says, defiantly, 714 00:43:17,046 --> 00:43:23,050 that North Korea is nearing its goal of military equilibrium with America. 715 00:43:23,056 --> 00:43:27,040 TRUMP: The United States has great strength and patience, 716 00:43:27,047 --> 00:43:31,010 but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, 717 00:43:31,017 --> 00:43:36,011 we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea. 718 00:43:36,018 --> 00:43:37,024 In 70 years... 719 00:43:37,031 --> 00:43:39,045 LISA (off screen): As the rhetoric between the U.S. and North Korea 720 00:43:39,051 --> 00:43:41,005 escalates, the international community 721 00:43:41,011 --> 00:43:44,092 is largely where they've been for decades, 722 00:43:44,098 --> 00:43:48,055 initiating harsher sanctions that appear to have no effect 723 00:43:48,062 --> 00:43:53,019 on stopping Kim's goal of being a threatening nuclear power. 724 00:43:58,070 --> 00:44:00,070 Captioned by Captionmax 58808

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