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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,636                 ♪                2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:24,124 --> 00:00:28,395               (♪♪♪)              5 00:00:56,756 --> 00:00:58,625        (children laughing)       6 00:01:01,094 --> 00:01:02,929            (laughing)            7 00:01:02,996 --> 00:01:05,932               (♪♪♪)              8 00:01:23,149 --> 00:01:27,654             (sighing)            9 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,749      - I remember long ago,      10 00:01:56,816 --> 00:01:59,686       there was a black car                that came...           11 00:02:01,387 --> 00:02:05,925      and a man and his wife,               White people.          12 00:02:06,926 --> 00:02:11,364       And they were talking             to my mom and dad.        13 00:02:11,431 --> 00:02:16,469  I looked at the licence plate,    and it was from Pennsylvania.  14 00:02:17,403 --> 00:02:22,275          It was a black              and yellow licence plate.    15 00:02:22,342 --> 00:02:24,744           And that man,                 finally, he said...       16 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:29,249 "Would you like to come and live  with us, little boy?" he said.  17 00:02:30,450 --> 00:02:33,253   It scared me up. I don't know        who these people are.      18 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:35,455        I ran into the bush       19 00:02:35,522 --> 00:02:39,092      and I stayed over there               with my dog.           20 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:40,894   I had a little plastic sheet,  21 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,297     and I stayed in the bush            for about a month,        22 00:02:44,364 --> 00:02:47,100 until I was sure they were gone. 23 00:02:47,167 --> 00:02:49,802           My mom said:           24 00:02:49,869 --> 00:02:52,872    "It was really quiet here."   25 00:02:52,939 --> 00:02:55,475      Lots of kids were gone.     26 00:02:55,542 --> 00:02:56,943         (Native language)        27 00:02:57,010 --> 00:02:59,445       "I'm sad", she said.       28 00:02:59,512 --> 00:03:01,648     Quite a few years later,     29 00:03:01,714 --> 00:03:05,318           we found out             there were different places.   30 00:03:05,385 --> 00:03:09,522      Some of them came home        and told us where they were.   31 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:13,760     And they were different,             those young kids.        32 00:03:13,826 --> 00:03:17,430     Some of them were adults           when they came home.       33 00:03:21,935 --> 00:03:25,238       - So Canada's efforts        to assimilate Indigenous kids  34 00:03:25,305 --> 00:03:29,175      began in the 1840s with       the first residential school.  35 00:03:29,242 --> 00:03:31,911        (children praying)        36 00:03:31,978 --> 00:03:35,048        From the late 1950s                 and early 60s          37 00:03:35,114 --> 00:03:37,183         to the mid-1980s,        38 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:38,718   the mass removal of children   39 00:03:38,785 --> 00:03:41,287         continued through            the child welfare system.    40 00:03:41,354 --> 00:03:43,089         Tens of thousands               of Indigenous kids        41 00:03:43,156 --> 00:03:47,527 were removed from their families  and placed into White families  42 00:03:47,594 --> 00:03:50,163         in North America               and internationally.       43 00:03:50,230 --> 00:03:54,334  All of this is what we'd refer      to as the Sixties Scoop.     44 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,868            In Canada,                    you know, we have        45 00:03:55,935 --> 00:03:58,538      this sort of collective           amnesia about things.      46 00:03:58,605 --> 00:04:00,306         Well... And maybe             it's not even amnesia,      47 00:04:00,373 --> 00:04:03,042   cause amnesia means that you     actually knew about something  48 00:04:03,109 --> 00:04:04,711     and then forgot about it.    49 00:04:04,777 --> 00:04:06,813     But residential schools,              Sixties Scoop,          50 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:08,281   people didn't know about it.   51 00:04:08,348 --> 00:04:10,116        That was, I think,                very deliberate,         52 00:04:10,183 --> 00:04:11,751   because you can, you know...   53 00:04:11,818 --> 00:04:14,487      Who wants to broadcast               it there and...         54 00:04:14,554 --> 00:04:18,524       We're on a program of       assimilating Indigenous people  55 00:04:18,591 --> 00:04:21,427  so that we don't have any more      fiduciary responsibility     56 00:04:21,494 --> 00:04:22,929         and we don't have               to, you know, share       57 00:04:22,996 --> 00:04:25,064     the resources of the land              and whatnot.           58 00:04:26,532 --> 00:04:28,368    I think truth is important           when we're looking        59 00:04:28,434 --> 00:04:32,372         at our collective           colonial history in Canada.   60 00:04:32,438 --> 00:04:34,374       If people don't know               the true stories,        61 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,243    the truth of what happened,   62 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:39,212     then, they're never gonna            know who we are.         63 00:04:40,513 --> 00:04:42,048       And we've always been                storytellers,          64 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:43,916        so here's one more.       65 00:04:43,983 --> 00:04:47,153         We got a lot more                 coming, though.         66 00:04:47,220 --> 00:04:52,392               (♪♪♪)              67 00:05:05,104 --> 00:05:08,107   - Little Bird is a miniseries  68 00:05:08,174 --> 00:05:11,077   about one woman's experience   69 00:05:11,144 --> 00:05:14,380       after being abducted         from her home in Saskatchewan  70 00:05:14,447 --> 00:05:17,383      and being adopted into        a Jewish family in Montreal.   71 00:05:17,450 --> 00:05:21,087       And the story follows          her journey of discovery     72 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:22,689       to uncover the truth                  of her past           73 00:05:22,755 --> 00:05:25,925       and pursue her desire      74 00:05:25,992 --> 00:05:28,895      to understand the story         that was stolen from her     75 00:05:28,961 --> 00:05:31,230         about who she is.        76 00:05:31,297 --> 00:05:32,899               (♪♪♪)              77 00:05:32,965 --> 00:05:35,768  - What we see with Little Bird       is one of those stories     78 00:05:35,835 --> 00:05:37,337 on a very, you know, personal... 79 00:05:37,403 --> 00:05:39,605       on a personal level.       80 00:05:39,672 --> 00:05:41,274        It's a family unit        81 00:05:41,341 --> 00:05:43,609     that's been taken apart.     82 00:05:45,111 --> 00:05:50,283         (Native language)        83 00:05:52,819 --> 00:05:55,121       My name is Elle-Maija           Apiniskim Tailfeathers.     84 00:05:55,188 --> 00:05:58,791        I come from Sapmi,             from the Norgga region.     85 00:05:58,858 --> 00:06:02,495        I'm also Blackfoot            from "Gainah" or Kainai.     86 00:06:02,562 --> 00:06:04,797       And I'm a filmmaker.       87 00:06:04,864 --> 00:06:07,066 - And action, kids!              88 00:06:07,133 --> 00:06:10,803 - So, we're witnessing something     really special right now     89 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:13,072  in terms of Indigenous cinema.  90 00:06:13,139 --> 00:06:15,041           There's been                 this massive movement      91 00:06:15,108 --> 00:06:16,642  towards narrative sovereignty,  92 00:06:16,709 --> 00:06:19,712          and that means                   so many things.         93 00:06:19,779 --> 00:06:22,715    I'm just really proud to be       a part of this movement,     94 00:06:22,782 --> 00:06:24,917          but I recognize             there's a long way to go.    95 00:06:24,984 --> 00:06:26,686                    It's flowers. 96 00:06:26,753 --> 00:06:28,788        You're not going to do it                right now, but... 97 00:06:29,922 --> 00:06:32,759             - Hey, can you still               get me some water? 98 00:06:34,260 --> 00:06:36,529         (bucket dropping)        99 00:06:36,596 --> 00:06:38,331                Go!               100 00:06:41,968 --> 00:06:45,805         (Native language)        101 00:06:45,872 --> 00:06:47,407   - My name is Jade Willoughby.  102 00:06:47,473 --> 00:06:49,909  I'm from Whitesand First Nation       in Northern Ontario.       103 00:06:50,676 --> 00:06:53,513    As First Nations Indigenous     people, we're very community,  104 00:06:53,579 --> 00:06:55,281      we're very place-based,                 you know.            105 00:06:55,348 --> 00:06:57,116     And that's the structure              that, you know,         106 00:06:57,183 --> 00:06:59,352     was essentially attempted               to destroy.           107 00:06:59,419 --> 00:07:01,454    And, you know, we're seeing        the ripple effects now      108 00:07:01,521 --> 00:07:04,857  of what that was, but you still      see that cohesiveness.      109 00:07:04,924 --> 00:07:06,325     We're finding each other.    110 00:07:06,392 --> 00:07:08,728   And I think in this project,          that's what it is.        111 00:07:08,795 --> 00:07:11,697      So, for me, I'm giving             a voice, you know,        112 00:07:11,764 --> 00:07:13,766     to my grandmother's story        and her sister, you know,    113 00:07:13,833 --> 00:07:15,968       and many other people                in my family           114 00:07:16,035 --> 00:07:18,237   that have gone through this.   115 00:07:21,607 --> 00:07:23,376     - So, I'm Raven Sinclair     116 00:07:23,443 --> 00:07:25,845           and I'm from                 Gordon First Nation,       117 00:07:25,912 --> 00:07:28,614     Treaty 4 territory, Cree,       Assiniboine and Saulteaux,    118 00:07:28,681 --> 00:07:32,318        Crow and Red River                 Métis ancestry.         119 00:07:32,385 --> 00:07:34,821        And I'm a professor                of social work          120 00:07:34,887 --> 00:07:36,722         at the University             of Regina in Saskatoon.     121 00:07:36,789 --> 00:07:40,326        So, I am a survivor             of the Sixties Scoop.      122 00:07:40,393 --> 00:07:44,931           I was adopted            on my fifth birthday in 1966.  123 00:07:44,997 --> 00:07:47,633        And the experience             for me of reconnecting      124 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:50,503   and learning about the Scoop     was really, really important.  125 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:52,438       What was significant                 about that is          126 00:07:52,505 --> 00:07:54,207          we all thought               we were the only ones.      127 00:07:54,273 --> 00:07:57,043  So, learning that this was one    of the assimilation projects   128 00:07:57,109 --> 00:07:58,511    of the government... ha-ha!   129 00:07:58,578 --> 00:08:01,147           governments,                provincial governments,     130 00:08:01,214 --> 00:08:02,882       was really important            because then, you know,     131 00:08:02,949 --> 00:08:05,318      we were able to, then,       depersonalize it a little bit.  132 00:08:05,384 --> 00:08:07,053      You know, then, you're             no longer thinking:       133 00:08:07,119 --> 00:08:08,955     "This is something that's      fundamentally wrong with me."  134 00:08:09,021 --> 00:08:10,623       It's something that's             fundamentally wrong       135 00:08:10,690 --> 00:08:12,358         with the system.         136 00:08:15,761 --> 00:08:18,130         - This role hits                very close to home        137 00:08:18,197 --> 00:08:21,200       because my dad, being       a member of the Sixties Scoop,  138 00:08:21,267 --> 00:08:22,835      changed my entire life.     139 00:08:22,902 --> 00:08:26,672       So, there was a level           of compartmentalization     140 00:08:26,739 --> 00:08:30,743  that had to happen where it was     like I need to sort of...    141 00:08:30,810 --> 00:08:33,746          separate my own                personal experience       142 00:08:33,813 --> 00:08:38,551    and sort of put that aside           so that I can focus       143 00:08:38,618 --> 00:08:39,986    on the work and do the work   144 00:08:40,052 --> 00:08:41,888       because stories like             this need to be told.      145 00:08:41,954 --> 00:08:43,756    And I think any other actor   146 00:08:43,823 --> 00:08:45,725            who wasn't                 of Indigenous ancestry      147 00:08:45,791 --> 00:08:47,860        or have Indigenous                lived experience         148 00:08:47,927 --> 00:08:50,997       wouldn't necessarily              have to use those,        149 00:08:51,063 --> 00:08:52,665  like, mental coping mechanisms  150 00:08:52,732 --> 00:08:55,134     in order to do this role.    151 00:08:55,201 --> 00:08:56,802       (indistinct chatter)       152 00:08:56,869 --> 00:08:59,605   - All right, folks, let's go    to our first position, please!  153 00:08:59,672 --> 00:09:02,909     Again, from the very top,            but only until...        154 00:09:02,975 --> 00:09:04,310 - Can we just reset?             155 00:09:04,377 --> 00:09:06,279                    - You want me                     to reset it? - Yeah.                          156 00:09:06,345 --> 00:09:07,780      My name is Zoe Hopkins.     157 00:09:07,847 --> 00:09:10,816     I'm a writer and director             on Little Bird.         158 00:09:10,883 --> 00:09:13,953     I'm born in Bella Bella.      I'm Heiltsuk on my mom's side.  159 00:09:14,020 --> 00:09:15,388      That's where she lives.     160 00:09:15,454 --> 00:09:17,924          And I'm Mohawk                on my father's side.       161 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:19,792      I live in Six Nations.      162 00:09:20,993 --> 00:09:24,196      Canada is still having           a reckoning with truth      163 00:09:24,263 --> 00:09:26,532         and what happened             and is still happening      164 00:09:26,599 --> 00:09:28,467           to our people                  in this country.         165 00:09:28,534 --> 00:09:29,936         You know, we hear        166 00:09:30,002 --> 00:09:32,305      the term reconciliation           thrown around a lot.       167 00:09:32,371 --> 00:09:34,907        And it is very true       168 00:09:34,974 --> 00:09:37,777      that we can't have that           until there's truth.       169 00:09:37,843 --> 00:09:42,882  And this is a part of that kind       of frontline advocacy      170 00:09:42,949 --> 00:09:44,617      and activism on screen.     171 00:09:44,684 --> 00:09:49,855               (♪♪♪)              172 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,122     - Folks, let's go to our             first positions!         173 00:10:23,189 --> 00:10:24,991            Rehearsal!            174 00:10:26,225 --> 00:10:27,860           - I was part                 of the Sixties Scoop,      175 00:10:27,927 --> 00:10:31,764      so that's my connection              with this film.         176 00:10:31,831 --> 00:10:34,333   My character's name is Asin.   177 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,070         I'm the granddad.          I'm doing granddad stuff now.  178 00:10:38,838 --> 00:10:42,375         My... slave name,               I like to call it,        179 00:10:42,441 --> 00:10:43,843          my adopted name         180 00:10:43,909 --> 00:10:45,344    - I was adopted at birth -    181 00:10:45,411 --> 00:10:46,846       is Eric Kurt Schweig,      182 00:10:46,912 --> 00:10:48,914          but the name...              I never met my mother,      183 00:10:48,981 --> 00:10:50,449   but the name that she gave me  184 00:10:50,516 --> 00:10:53,252      before I was taken away          was Ray Dean Thrasher.      185 00:10:53,319 --> 00:10:56,656      I'm Inuit, Portuguese,           German and Senegalese.      186 00:10:56,722 --> 00:10:59,558      My birthplace is Inuvik       in the Northwest Territories.  187 00:10:59,625 --> 00:11:03,262      It's just at the mouth        of the Mackenzie River delta   188 00:11:03,329 --> 00:11:05,131   underneath the Beaufort Sea.   189 00:11:05,197 --> 00:11:07,800        Why is it important          that this story be told...    190 00:11:07,867 --> 00:11:10,269     this story in particular              be told by us?          191 00:11:10,336 --> 00:11:13,939        Because every time            the other side tells it,     192 00:11:14,006 --> 00:11:16,308         they screw it up,             or they romanticize it,     193 00:11:16,375 --> 00:11:19,478     or they titillate the...     194 00:11:19,545 --> 00:11:21,147       any of the bad things                 that go on,           195 00:11:21,213 --> 00:11:24,316      and it's stereotypical             and it's nonsense.        196 00:11:24,383 --> 00:11:26,485           The only time                  that you can get         197 00:11:26,552 --> 00:11:28,988    the real meat and potatoes        from something like this     198 00:11:29,055 --> 00:11:31,123   is from First Nations people,  199 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:33,459         from the source.         200 00:11:33,526 --> 00:11:35,995      - I knew when I became                 a producer            201 00:11:36,062 --> 00:11:38,564    that I would only ever tell   202 00:11:38,631 --> 00:11:42,268        Indigenous stories          that multi-dimensionalize us   203 00:11:42,334 --> 00:11:44,837       and our experiences.       204 00:11:44,904 --> 00:11:48,007       I don't think there's            one Indigenous family      205 00:11:48,074 --> 00:11:51,977     that hasn't been impacted          by residential school      206 00:11:52,044 --> 00:11:53,879   or the child welfare system.   207 00:11:53,946 --> 00:11:55,948         I don't know one.               I've never met one.       208 00:11:58,884 --> 00:12:02,922   For me, because my community          is in Saskatchewan,       209 00:12:02,988 --> 00:12:05,491      Southern Saskatchewan,                Muscowpetung,          210 00:12:05,558 --> 00:12:10,062        I placed the story                 in that region,         211 00:12:10,129 --> 00:12:12,164        because I wanted it                to be as close          212 00:12:12,231 --> 00:12:15,101       to my home community                 as possible.           213 00:12:15,167 --> 00:12:18,637     So, I followed the river              near my reserve         214 00:12:18,704 --> 00:12:22,641      and, like, followed it        on Google Maps into Manitoba,  215 00:12:22,708 --> 00:12:26,512   and then I chose communities    that that river flowed through  216 00:12:26,579 --> 00:12:29,648      and had those coolees,                the valleys.           217 00:12:29,715 --> 00:12:32,184               (♪♪♪)              218 00:12:32,251 --> 00:12:33,686        - One of the things       219 00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:35,521     that is an important part    220 00:12:35,588 --> 00:12:38,457          of the protocol            of Indigenous storytelling    221 00:12:38,524 --> 00:12:40,593    is to work with community.    222 00:12:40,659 --> 00:12:43,195    And the first thing you do         is you go to community      223 00:12:43,262 --> 00:12:45,998     and you make an offering,       and you ask for permission,   224 00:12:46,065 --> 00:12:49,235   whether it's to tell a story         or to use a location.      225 00:12:49,301 --> 00:12:50,903      So, that's what we did             with Sioux Valley,        226 00:12:50,970 --> 00:12:53,806       and the relationship         just got stronger from there.  227 00:12:56,442 --> 00:12:58,811    - We've never had this sort        of thing happening here     228 00:12:58,878 --> 00:13:00,212         in the community         229 00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:04,250         and knowing that              Sioux Valley's hosting      230 00:13:04,316 --> 00:13:06,018      this crew that's doing                a film here.           231 00:13:06,085 --> 00:13:07,620        So, they're pretty                excited about it.        232 00:13:07,686 --> 00:13:10,589      Like, community members          that are participating.     233 00:13:10,656 --> 00:13:13,926      And I have young adult              children myself,         234 00:13:13,993 --> 00:13:15,361     and I went home at lunch     235 00:13:15,427 --> 00:13:16,929        and I was speaking               to my youngest son,       236 00:13:16,996 --> 00:13:19,532          and he's like:             "What's the Sixties Scoop?"   237 00:13:19,598 --> 00:13:23,068    And he didn't know, right,          what that was and...       238 00:13:23,135 --> 00:13:28,040    So, we had a chat about it     at lunchtime with my other son. 239 00:13:28,107 --> 00:13:31,877  And he says: "Well, didn't you    learn about that in school?"   240 00:13:31,944 --> 00:13:35,181    So, it's bringing awareness        about those dark times      241 00:13:35,247 --> 00:13:37,683     to our younger generation            that didn't know         242 00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:40,052       those sorts of things                 took place.           243 00:13:40,119 --> 00:13:42,388               (♪♪♪)              244 00:13:42,454 --> 00:13:45,591           - It impacted                a lot of people here.      245 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:48,093       When the young people      246 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,497         that were adopted                of the reserve...        247 00:13:51,564 --> 00:13:53,566       I guess it's quite...      248 00:13:53,632 --> 00:13:58,771   It is a quite traumatic thing     that they never experienced   249 00:13:58,838 --> 00:14:01,407      because they're young,      250 00:14:01,473 --> 00:14:05,144    they never left the reserve         here, the community,       251 00:14:05,211 --> 00:14:08,380   and, all of a sudden, they're     taken to a different place    252 00:14:08,447 --> 00:14:10,149      with different parents.     253 00:14:11,250 --> 00:14:14,787         And they struggle              growing up out there.      254 00:14:16,021 --> 00:14:19,458        Once they come back            or trying to come back,     255 00:14:19,525 --> 00:14:21,126        it's very difficult       256 00:14:21,193 --> 00:14:24,496       because they learned             a different lifestyle      257 00:14:24,563 --> 00:14:28,500      and they're coming back           to a different home.       258 00:14:28,567 --> 00:14:31,670      Some of them, I guess,              they feel ashamed        259 00:14:31,737 --> 00:14:34,940     to be coming home of what       happened to them out there.   260 00:14:35,708 --> 00:14:38,410      Some of them never want               to come home.          261 00:14:39,645 --> 00:14:41,547         I guess this will        262 00:14:41,614 --> 00:14:44,650      open the eyes of a lot          of people out there now.     263 00:14:44,717 --> 00:14:48,520               (♪♪♪)              264 00:14:48,587 --> 00:14:50,522       - We're finally here             and I'm very excited       265 00:14:50,589 --> 00:14:54,560       because this expands             my heart to be here.       266 00:14:54,627 --> 00:14:58,364      I feel like very, very           emotional on this land.     267 00:15:00,032 --> 00:15:02,801 - You were talking about         smelling sweet grass...          268 00:15:02,868 --> 00:15:04,536      - Sweet grass and sage.     269 00:15:04,603 --> 00:15:07,239 So, we wanted to gift you        with those from...                                   - Miigwetch! 270 00:15:07,306 --> 00:15:09,575 - ... on behalf                  of our community.                271 00:15:09,642 --> 00:15:13,712       It's always a great honour       to be gifted a star quilt. 272 00:15:13,779 --> 00:15:15,180                 It's one of a... 273 00:15:15,247 --> 00:15:18,050         I guess something that's      signatory to our community. 274 00:15:18,117 --> 00:15:21,186            - I really appreciate                     this honour. 275 00:15:21,253 --> 00:15:22,588               And I feel very... 276 00:15:22,655 --> 00:15:25,024 - And it's always a tradition    for the women to...              277 00:15:25,090 --> 00:15:26,525   like, whoever they're gifting, 278 00:15:26,592 --> 00:15:28,427       we wrap them in it, right? 279 00:15:28,494 --> 00:15:30,296              - Oh, my God.       - Ha-ha!                         280 00:15:30,362 --> 00:15:32,264               (♪♪♪)              281 00:15:32,331 --> 00:15:34,566          - Thank you. Miigwetch. 282 00:15:35,401 --> 00:15:40,072               (♪♪♪)              283 00:15:46,011 --> 00:15:51,183               (♪♪♪)              284 00:15:52,584 --> 00:15:54,620   - Well, the Indigenous story   285 00:15:54,687 --> 00:15:59,725    or the Indigenous narration             is important.          286 00:16:01,327 --> 00:16:03,996     Crew members Indigenous,     287 00:16:04,063 --> 00:16:05,364           cast members           288 00:16:05,431 --> 00:16:08,033       and the authenticity              that the producers        289 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:12,638     want to bring to not just          aspects of the story       290 00:16:12,705 --> 00:16:16,442        and how it's told,                but to inclusion.        291 00:16:16,508 --> 00:16:18,544      And it warms my heart.      292 00:16:18,610 --> 00:16:21,513    My name is Lorne Duquette.    293 00:16:21,580 --> 00:16:23,615     My Cree name is Mistatim.    294 00:16:23,682 --> 00:16:25,284   I come from the Cree Nation,   295 00:16:25,351 --> 00:16:28,120       Mistawasis Nêhiyawak               in Saskatchewan.         296 00:16:29,054 --> 00:16:33,258     My particular connection          to the Sixties Scoop is     297 00:16:33,325 --> 00:16:35,127        I had a girlfriend,       298 00:16:35,194 --> 00:16:39,331   and her and her two siblings           were apprehended.        299 00:16:39,398 --> 00:16:41,467  She was raised in a White home, 300 00:16:41,533 --> 00:16:46,505     and her adopted brothers           were older than her.       301 00:16:46,572 --> 00:16:50,976         And she suffered                sexual and physical       302 00:16:51,043 --> 00:16:52,378         and mental abuse.        303 00:16:52,444 --> 00:16:55,614          And she passed                  in October 2016.         304 00:16:55,681 --> 00:16:59,385       And her two brothers              passed before her.        305 00:16:59,451 --> 00:17:00,986           This family,           306 00:17:01,053 --> 00:17:04,456            the mother                 and her three children,     307 00:17:04,523 --> 00:17:08,394    none of them had children,         many of these siblings,     308 00:17:08,460 --> 00:17:12,698     and of course, the mother          had no grandchildren.      309 00:17:12,765 --> 00:17:15,434     So, the Sixties Scoop...     310 00:17:17,703 --> 00:17:21,774    literally wiped this family      off the face of this earth    311 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,509            without...            312 00:17:26,145 --> 00:17:27,546              any...              313 00:17:27,613 --> 00:17:31,250           any offspring               to carry on their name.     314 00:17:31,316 --> 00:17:35,654  Like the dialogue my character        says at the funeral,       315 00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:38,690      my thoughts also turned              to our children         316 00:17:38,757 --> 00:17:43,796  who were lost and taken from us         in so many ways.         317 00:17:45,297 --> 00:17:47,366       And in this interview           that I'm giving today,      318 00:17:47,433 --> 00:17:50,335        I give my thoughts                  and my memory          319 00:17:50,402 --> 00:17:53,572      to her and her siblings              and her mother.         320 00:17:53,639 --> 00:17:58,811            (chanting)            321 00:18:02,247 --> 00:18:06,418       - So, this situation           with residential schools,    322 00:18:06,485 --> 00:18:08,053          Sixties Scoop,          323 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:11,190      it affected us big time     324 00:18:11,256 --> 00:18:13,225      mentally, emotionally.      325 00:18:14,827 --> 00:18:17,296   My name is Harold Blacksmith.  326 00:18:17,362 --> 00:18:19,898     I come from Sioux Valley              Dakota Nation,          327 00:18:19,965 --> 00:18:23,168          otherwise known             as Wipazoka Wakpa Oyate.     328 00:18:24,570 --> 00:18:25,904     Full-blood Dakota Sioux.     329 00:18:25,971 --> 00:18:29,141          I've lived here            my entire 60 years of age.    330 00:18:29,208 --> 00:18:32,611    Because of mom's experience        in residential school,      331 00:18:32,678 --> 00:18:34,913              she...              332 00:18:35,948 --> 00:18:38,217            To be told                 that you're worthless,      333 00:18:38,283 --> 00:18:41,220   being told that consistently           on a daily basis,        334 00:18:41,286 --> 00:18:44,590     had an emotional, mental          effect on these people,     335 00:18:44,656 --> 00:18:46,358         including my mom.        336 00:18:46,425 --> 00:18:48,393              And...              337 00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:53,832    And when the Sixties Scoop                came in,             338 00:18:53,899 --> 00:18:55,400       they took my brother.      339 00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:58,670  My grandma and grandpa hid me,         they hung on to me.       340 00:18:58,737 --> 00:19:01,740      Back then, the law was:     341 00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:04,143        okay, you're going              to hang on to Harold?      342 00:19:04,209 --> 00:19:06,178      You have to adopt him."     343 00:19:08,580 --> 00:19:11,250     Ah, we grew up, we didn't         have no TV or nothing.      344 00:19:11,316 --> 00:19:14,953        Down south, we have            a big lake down there.      345 00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:16,388       It's still there yet.      346 00:19:16,455 --> 00:19:20,459         And we used to go          and fish out there and swim.   347 00:19:20,526 --> 00:19:23,061  And my personal experience was  348 00:19:23,128 --> 00:19:25,797  I've seen two of my cousins...  349 00:19:25,864 --> 00:19:27,966       they were picked up.       350 00:19:28,033 --> 00:19:30,636         I still remember              the individual's name.      351 00:19:30,702 --> 00:19:33,305  It was Mr. Malik, big tall guy, 352 00:19:33,372 --> 00:19:35,307        Hindu guy, glasses.       353 00:19:35,374 --> 00:19:38,110    He had a brown Ford Torino.   354 00:19:40,279 --> 00:19:42,080          And those guys                 shared their story.       355 00:19:42,147 --> 00:19:46,285   He took the door handles off           from the inside,         356 00:19:46,351 --> 00:19:49,488    so once he closed the door,      the kids couldn't open it.    357 00:19:49,555 --> 00:19:53,292         And he lured them                with pop, candy.         358 00:19:54,092 --> 00:19:55,494        And he wanted to...       359 00:19:55,561 --> 00:19:57,462       I don't know what...            I think the saying was      360 00:19:57,529 --> 00:20:00,999      that he wanted to talk       to their caregivers, whatever.  361 00:20:01,066 --> 00:20:03,035        So, the boys got in       362 00:20:03,101 --> 00:20:06,738           and he closed                 the doors on them.        363 00:20:06,805 --> 00:20:11,210       And one of my cousins              was, you know...         364 00:20:11,276 --> 00:20:12,678    He had a look on his face.    365 00:20:12,744 --> 00:20:16,515       And I think they knew          that they were in trouble    366 00:20:16,582 --> 00:20:18,083   when they got in the vehicle.  367 00:20:18,150 --> 00:20:20,352   I'll never forget that look.   368 00:20:23,188 --> 00:20:26,425    My grandma and grandfather          told me in Dakota...       369 00:20:26,491 --> 00:20:29,328            they said:                 "Don't talk to anybody,     370 00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:31,697   don't talk to any strangers."  371 00:20:31,763 --> 00:20:33,265       And about that time,                   you know,            372 00:20:33,332 --> 00:20:36,301        you see this police              vehicle out there,        373 00:20:36,368 --> 00:20:37,970 the one bulb on top of the hood, 374 00:20:38,036 --> 00:20:39,972        they were the kind            of vehicles that were...     375 00:20:40,038 --> 00:20:42,007   You didn't know who to trust.  376 00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:46,378   And that's another big factor       that today, modern day,     377 00:20:46,445 --> 00:20:47,813      we don't talk about it      378 00:20:47,879 --> 00:20:49,648        because there were             trust issues back then.     379 00:20:49,715 --> 00:20:52,251       There was a Mr. Malik         and there were other people   380 00:20:52,317 --> 00:20:54,186  that were collecting children.  381 00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:58,190        And we didn't know             who to trust, you know.     382 00:20:59,424 --> 00:21:03,695      I'm sure today, if our      leadership could do something... 383 00:21:03,762 --> 00:21:05,297     Back then, they probably            would have stopped        384 00:21:05,364 --> 00:21:06,765     these visitors coming in.    385 00:21:06,832 --> 00:21:08,467  They should have stopped them.  386 00:21:08,533 --> 00:21:13,472               (♪♪♪)              387 00:21:15,674 --> 00:21:17,609       - When you're telling      388 00:21:17,676 --> 00:21:19,478       any Indigenous story,      389 00:21:19,544 --> 00:21:23,282        for the most part,          no one's ever gotten it right  390 00:21:23,348 --> 00:21:25,651      unless they were truly      391 00:21:25,717 --> 00:21:27,886           an Indigenous                 storyteller, right?       392 00:21:27,953 --> 00:21:29,655        No matter how hard        393 00:21:29,721 --> 00:21:31,156         people have tried                to get it right,         394 00:21:31,223 --> 00:21:35,360  they can't because the process          of authenticating        395 00:21:35,427 --> 00:21:39,931        all of the threads          of the story is very complex.  396 00:21:39,998 --> 00:21:44,770      And I take my 30 years              in this industry         397 00:21:44,836 --> 00:21:48,273           and 25 years                 of creating content.       398 00:21:48,340 --> 00:21:50,142         I draw from that         399 00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:52,311        and know that once              you start a project,       400 00:21:52,377 --> 00:21:56,315       you need what I call             a circle of advisors.      401 00:21:56,381 --> 00:21:59,484          We can't afford                to not be authentic       402 00:21:59,551 --> 00:22:03,288     because we're reclaiming              these stories.          403 00:22:05,524 --> 00:22:08,593     - With the consultations     404 00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:11,563      and the back and forth          about building the house,    405 00:22:11,630 --> 00:22:15,767       it was a combination            of shared experiences.      406 00:22:15,834 --> 00:22:20,505    In the Ojibwe communities,               they had...           407 00:22:20,572 --> 00:22:25,143      what they would have is     they would have these milk cans. 408 00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:29,915         And that's where               they kept their stuff      409 00:22:29,981 --> 00:22:31,817  that they needed to keep cool.  410 00:22:36,988 --> 00:22:41,393     I'm lucky that I remember         my grandparents' house.     411 00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:44,830        For me, it was one               of the most loving,       412 00:22:44,896 --> 00:22:48,233     peaceful, grounding times    413 00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:49,968          that I've spent         414 00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:51,837        when I was younger        415 00:22:51,903 --> 00:22:53,372       because I would just              lie on their bed...       416 00:22:53,438 --> 00:22:57,409     Because they didn't have         much in way of furniture.    417 00:22:57,476 --> 00:23:00,479      My grandmother, Nokom,            would be maybe sewing      418 00:23:00,545 --> 00:23:03,181  while my grandfather, Numshun,  419 00:23:03,248 --> 00:23:04,583        humming to himself.       420 00:23:04,649 --> 00:23:07,519         And then for me,              I was taking it all in.     421 00:23:07,586 --> 00:23:10,922      So, we had many people           that were contributing      422 00:23:10,989 --> 00:23:13,091            to the look           423 00:23:13,158 --> 00:23:15,794      and to the feel of all         these different locations.    424 00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:24,603       (Indigenous language)      425 00:23:25,604 --> 00:23:27,038                From Muscowpetung                     First Nation 426 00:23:27,105 --> 00:23:28,540                 in Saskatchewan,                      near Regina 427 00:23:28,607 --> 00:23:30,742                 in the beautiful               Qu'Appelle Valley. 428 00:23:30,809 --> 00:23:34,012         And this is my beautiful                 niece, Jennifer. 429 00:23:35,313 --> 00:23:37,582     Yesterday, when I walked               onto the set,          430 00:23:37,649 --> 00:23:38,984       it just brought back       431 00:23:39,050 --> 00:23:41,686     some really good memories              of childhood.          432 00:23:41,753 --> 00:23:44,523       Even that clothesline          with the clothes hanging     433 00:23:44,589 --> 00:23:46,091     and blowing in the wind.     434 00:23:46,158 --> 00:23:49,394         Yeah, this is how               we lived back then.       435 00:23:49,461 --> 00:23:51,463            That was our reality. 436 00:23:51,530 --> 00:23:53,365                No running water! 437 00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:57,636        Sometimes no electricity. 438 00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:00,205                           And... 439 00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:02,274              But like I did say,                        you know, 440 00:24:02,340 --> 00:24:04,109                 we never thought             of ourselves as poor 441 00:24:04,176 --> 00:24:06,411                   because we had            everything we needed. 442 00:24:06,478 --> 00:24:08,113                       We were... 443 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:12,617    Our parents, our grandparents     were able to provide for us. 444 00:24:12,684 --> 00:24:15,787     - Every single department    445 00:24:15,854 --> 00:24:19,224   worked with myself and Sharon  446 00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:23,829            to... like,                on every single detail      447 00:24:23,895 --> 00:24:26,965      to ensure authenticity.     448 00:24:27,032 --> 00:24:30,035         There was photos              up in the corner I know     449 00:24:30,101 --> 00:24:32,704    of my grandma on the house             in the reserve          450 00:24:33,972 --> 00:24:37,576   that the art department based      Little bird houses off of.   451 00:24:37,642 --> 00:24:41,446       My great-grandfather,       Noel Pinais, built this house.  452 00:24:41,513 --> 00:24:44,115        And, then, this is                 my grandmother,         453 00:24:44,182 --> 00:24:45,817       Dorothy Pearl Pinais,      454 00:24:45,884 --> 00:24:49,521  in the porch area of the house,         Little bird house.       455 00:24:49,588 --> 00:24:52,724     To have... My grandmother          only lived till 2000,      456 00:24:52,791 --> 00:24:55,160   so she never got the apology.  457 00:24:55,227 --> 00:24:57,329      She never got anything          that was deserved to her     458 00:24:57,395 --> 00:24:59,965        for having endured               residential school.       459 00:25:00,031 --> 00:25:02,167      And seeing these photos               on the walls           460 00:25:02,234 --> 00:25:03,568       in some of the sets,       461 00:25:03,635 --> 00:25:06,071     like, she gets to live on              in the story.          462 00:25:06,137 --> 00:25:10,609         And that's really                special for sure.        463 00:25:10,675 --> 00:25:14,479     And seeing how the house           looks like her house       464 00:25:14,546 --> 00:25:18,517  and how some of the characters              are her,             465 00:25:18,583 --> 00:25:21,386       just... but not her,       466 00:25:21,453 --> 00:25:24,189      it's... I think it's...     467 00:25:24,256 --> 00:25:25,590       Yeah, it means a lot.      468 00:25:25,657 --> 00:25:27,392      Like, more than I ever             could have thought        469 00:25:27,459 --> 00:25:29,694   when Jennifer first asked me          about this project.       470 00:25:29,761 --> 00:25:32,898           I had no idea                 it would grow to be       471 00:25:32,964 --> 00:25:37,802          such a project               of the heart, for sure.     472 00:25:37,869 --> 00:25:43,074               (♪♪♪)              473 00:25:46,344 --> 00:25:47,746        - I am Tanya Brunel       474 00:25:47,812 --> 00:25:51,550        and I am currently               living in Winnipeg.       475 00:25:51,616 --> 00:25:55,153   I'm Métis from the Red River          region in Manitoba.       476 00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:58,523   I grew up in a predominantly           French community         477 00:25:58,590 --> 00:26:01,860      southwest of Winnipeg.      478 00:26:01,927 --> 00:26:04,095        And I'm a producer.       479 00:26:04,162 --> 00:26:05,997         When I first came              on board this project      480 00:26:06,064 --> 00:26:08,500        and we were looking         for places to start filming,   481 00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:13,538    I was visiting communities       all across Western Manitoba   482 00:26:13,605 --> 00:26:16,908   and in every single community           that I visited,         483 00:26:16,975 --> 00:26:19,177     whether it was, you know,         the person that was...      484 00:26:19,244 --> 00:26:20,579      that I was talking to,      485 00:26:20,645 --> 00:26:22,080        that was showing me                the community,          486 00:26:22,147 --> 00:26:23,682          maybe they were               a survivor themselves      487 00:26:23,748 --> 00:26:25,083       or they knew someone       488 00:26:25,150 --> 00:26:27,819        who was coming home               and reconnecting.        489 00:26:27,886 --> 00:26:32,924  But every single community was    touched by the Sixties Scoop.  490 00:26:32,991 --> 00:26:37,195               (♪♪♪)              491 00:26:37,262 --> 00:26:38,663            - Bonjour.            492 00:26:38,730 --> 00:26:41,566         (Native language)        493 00:26:41,633 --> 00:26:43,969      Obviously, right beside           the Brokenhead River,      494 00:26:44,035 --> 00:26:45,437          where I'm from.         495 00:26:45,503 --> 00:26:47,472    My name is Gordon Bluesky.    496 00:26:47,539 --> 00:26:50,909   I'm the ogimaakaan, the Chief    of Brokenhead Ojibway Nation.  497 00:26:50,976 --> 00:26:53,545         So, we're located               about 60 kilometres       498 00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:56,648         north of Winnipeg               off of Highway 59.        499 00:26:56,715 --> 00:26:59,217         Our community has                about 700 members        500 00:26:59,284 --> 00:27:02,087  situated within our community.  501 00:27:02,153 --> 00:27:05,023    And we also have a large...   502 00:27:05,090 --> 00:27:07,292         about two thirds             of our total population,     503 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,793     living in urban centres,     504 00:27:08,860 --> 00:27:10,662    like the city of Winnipeg.    505 00:27:11,596 --> 00:27:15,066   My story starts with Sixties       Scoop here in Brokenhead.    506 00:27:15,133 --> 00:27:17,602          My two sisters,         507 00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:21,439    we were apprehended in 1977   508 00:27:21,506 --> 00:27:23,041   from our grandmother's house   509 00:27:23,108 --> 00:27:25,143        just at the corner                59 Highway there.        510 00:27:25,210 --> 00:27:28,647          For me, leaving                the community here,       511 00:27:28,713 --> 00:27:32,384 and when I was just a young boy,      I don't remember a lot.     512 00:27:32,450 --> 00:27:35,520       Obviously, I do have              some small memories       513 00:27:35,587 --> 00:27:39,624   of what we could only assume         to be my grandmother.      514 00:27:39,691 --> 00:27:41,726       But where my memories                  do start             515 00:27:41,793 --> 00:27:43,662              is when                    my trauma started.        516 00:27:43,728 --> 00:27:45,363      When I went to the city                of Winnipeg           517 00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:47,132           and I got put                  into foster care,        518 00:27:47,198 --> 00:27:49,567   and the things that I've seen          there, it just...        519 00:27:49,634 --> 00:27:51,636   I've dealt with those things.  520 00:27:51,703 --> 00:27:53,238   I've released a lot of that,   521 00:27:53,304 --> 00:27:56,107  but I was carrying that trauma         for a lot of years.       522 00:27:56,174 --> 00:27:57,976     And when I left Winnipeg,    523 00:27:58,043 --> 00:28:00,011     I was adopted ultimately              in a small town         524 00:28:00,078 --> 00:28:01,980      outside of Pittsburgh,                Pennsylvania.          525 00:28:02,047 --> 00:28:04,382       You know, it was just          like they put me on Mars.    526 00:28:04,449 --> 00:28:09,254               (♪♪♪)              527 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,091          You had no idea              who these people were.      528 00:28:13,158 --> 00:28:14,659        We had to go stand        529 00:28:14,726 --> 00:28:16,327        in front of a judge       530 00:28:16,394 --> 00:28:18,029       and pledge allegiance             and all that stuff        531 00:28:18,096 --> 00:28:19,531       at a very young age.       532 00:28:19,597 --> 00:28:21,032       I was five years old.      533 00:28:21,099 --> 00:28:22,634         So, I had no idea               what was going on,        534 00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:24,002     but it was in the papers.    535 00:28:24,069 --> 00:28:26,938       Native American kids              are da-da-da-da-da.       536 00:28:27,005 --> 00:28:28,540   We were always in the papers   537 00:28:28,606 --> 00:28:30,041       on some sort of thing      538 00:28:30,108 --> 00:28:32,143          because, again,                I felt like we were       539 00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:34,045    the only Indian children...   540 00:28:34,112 --> 00:28:36,514      probably on the planet,       it's how I felt at the time.   541 00:28:36,581 --> 00:28:40,351       So, for me, it's just          a matter of understanding    542 00:28:40,418 --> 00:28:43,021      that the Sixties Scoop               story isn't...          543 00:28:43,088 --> 00:28:45,457      like, it's not unique,               unfortunately.          544 00:28:45,523 --> 00:28:48,827     There are thousands of us    that were taken out of Manitoba, 545 00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:51,196       thousands of us taken             across the country.       546 00:28:51,262 --> 00:28:53,064     There are still thousands           that are out there        547 00:28:53,131 --> 00:28:54,933   in the world right now, lost.  548 00:28:54,999 --> 00:28:57,302       What we used to call            the stolen generations.     549 00:28:57,368 --> 00:28:58,903     I don't know what people           call them now, but...      550 00:28:58,970 --> 00:29:01,039      It's the Sixties Scoop.     551 00:29:03,108 --> 00:29:05,510            - It refers               to the mass apprehensions    552 00:29:05,577 --> 00:29:07,278           and removals                of Indigenous children      553 00:29:07,345 --> 00:29:10,348      that started in the 50s     554 00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:13,418       and then just as this            exponential increase       555 00:29:13,485 --> 00:29:14,886            in the 60s.           556 00:29:14,953 --> 00:29:17,255           At that time,                 social work schools       557 00:29:17,322 --> 00:29:19,290     were starting to pump out             social workers,         558 00:29:19,357 --> 00:29:22,060        most of whom were,             you know, upper-class,      559 00:29:22,127 --> 00:29:24,763     White, privileged people     560 00:29:24,829 --> 00:29:27,398         and who never met              an Indigenous person,      561 00:29:27,465 --> 00:29:29,400   let alone gone into a reserve  562 00:29:29,467 --> 00:29:32,871 or gone into an Indigenous home. 563 00:29:32,937 --> 00:29:35,039     They didn't have the same       sort of level of awareness    564 00:29:35,106 --> 00:29:36,875           of, you know,                   the big picture         565 00:29:36,941 --> 00:29:39,944       or even the fact that        the government was attempting  566 00:29:40,011 --> 00:29:42,380           to assimilate                 Indigenous people.        567 00:29:43,481 --> 00:29:45,650           - The removal               of Indigenous children      568 00:29:45,717 --> 00:29:49,220      was the responsibility              of child welfare.        569 00:29:50,188 --> 00:29:52,157         In Saskatchewan,                  in particular,          570 00:29:52,223 --> 00:29:54,959     there was a pilot project               called AIM,           571 00:29:55,026 --> 00:29:57,395       Adopted Indian Métis.      572 00:29:57,462 --> 00:30:00,265        - This is a special               adoption program.        573 00:30:00,331 --> 00:30:03,268     For the past five years,          the number of children      574 00:30:03,334 --> 00:30:04,903            in care of                the Department of Welfare    575 00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:09,107        has been increasing         by approximately 180 a year.   576 00:30:09,174 --> 00:30:11,709         We have had great              difficulty in placing      577 00:30:11,776 --> 00:30:13,244    Indian and Métis children.    578 00:30:13,311 --> 00:30:15,413   - Kids were being apprehended         all over the place        579 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,282  and they just couldn't keep up. 580 00:30:17,348 --> 00:30:20,118        And so they created                 this program           581 00:30:20,185 --> 00:30:24,389       really to disseminate          the need for adoptive...     582 00:30:24,455 --> 00:30:27,592     foster and adoptive homes          for Indigenous kids.       583 00:30:27,659 --> 00:30:30,395      And so they advertised      584 00:30:30,461 --> 00:30:33,264  and they took pictures of kids     and posted in different...    585 00:30:33,331 --> 00:30:36,167          You know, like              the "Regina Leader Post"     586 00:30:36,234 --> 00:30:37,702      and "The Star Phoenix"      587 00:30:37,769 --> 00:30:39,337         and church groups              and stuff like that.       588 00:30:39,404 --> 00:30:41,573      I think that they were              well-intentioned,        589 00:30:41,639 --> 00:30:43,441       but again, you know,              they didn't know...       590 00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:46,411     they had no idea, really,          what they were doing.      591 00:30:47,946 --> 00:30:51,649        A BC social worker          by the name of Bridget Moran   592 00:30:51,716 --> 00:30:55,687   went public with her concerns            and she said:          593 00:30:55,753 --> 00:30:57,989         "We were putting                children into homes       594 00:30:58,056 --> 00:30:59,991   about which we knew nothing."  595 00:31:00,058 --> 00:31:02,393      And then she concluded                 by saying:            596 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:04,362     "The biggest contributor              to child abuse          597 00:31:04,429 --> 00:31:06,998          in the province               was the government."       598 00:31:07,999 --> 00:31:10,268       Why were so many kids             being apprehended?        599 00:31:10,335 --> 00:31:11,769          There were kids                 that needed care.        600 00:31:11,836 --> 00:31:13,805     There was social disarray                going on.            601 00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:17,342   I mean, people were raised in  these total institutions, right? 602 00:31:17,408 --> 00:31:19,777   Total institutions that were       fraught with sexual abuse    603 00:31:19,844 --> 00:31:21,312        and physical abuse                  and violence.          604 00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:24,182    They came out traumatized,                had kids.            605 00:31:24,249 --> 00:31:26,184 It was kind of a disastrous mix. 606 00:31:26,251 --> 00:31:28,653      But Indigenous people,          we've always been blamed     607 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,957      for the conditions and        the outcomes of colonialism.   608 00:31:34,726 --> 00:31:37,328        - So, I was scooped               at a central park        609 00:31:37,395 --> 00:31:40,431       at age five years old      610 00:31:40,498 --> 00:31:43,368          and made a ward             of the courts through...     611 00:31:43,434 --> 00:31:45,270    At the time, it was called             Children's Aid.         612 00:31:45,336 --> 00:31:47,739       So, me and my younger             sister and brother        613 00:31:47,805 --> 00:31:50,575         had been scooped                 out of the park.         614 00:31:50,642 --> 00:31:52,176      We had been left alone      615 00:31:52,243 --> 00:31:56,080      and a neighbour called,       concerned for our wellbeing.   616 00:31:56,147 --> 00:31:57,882        And luckily enough,                 we were able           617 00:31:57,949 --> 00:31:59,651           to be placed                 all in the same home.      618 00:31:59,717 --> 00:32:03,554    So, me and my two siblings     grew up in the same foster home 619 00:32:03,621 --> 00:32:06,991  for years and years and years.  620 00:32:07,058 --> 00:32:08,726  But I had memories of my home.  621 00:32:08,793 --> 00:32:10,194     I had memories of my mom.    622 00:32:10,261 --> 00:32:13,231     I had memories of my dad          and his home community.     623 00:32:13,298 --> 00:32:15,934        And that was always            in the back of my mind.     624 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,002               (♪♪♪)              625 00:32:18,069 --> 00:32:21,839             I grew up               in a Lutheran foster home.    626 00:32:21,906 --> 00:32:24,475         Christian people.        627 00:32:24,542 --> 00:32:29,647   So, coming into the community  where it was so different and... 628 00:32:29,714 --> 00:32:31,916   I had a real identity crisis   629 00:32:31,983 --> 00:32:33,918        as far as religion                and spirituality         630 00:32:33,985 --> 00:32:35,853      and what I believed in.     631 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,090     And everything I thought         I believed my whole life,    632 00:32:39,157 --> 00:32:41,626          I questioned it                 when I came home.        633 00:32:41,693 --> 00:32:43,328           (indistinct)           634 00:32:43,394 --> 00:32:46,197           - Okay. Yeah.          635 00:32:46,264 --> 00:32:48,566 - I made these bird...           636 00:32:48,633 --> 00:32:52,403        - That's beautiful.               Very nice, Uncle.        637 00:33:06,117 --> 00:33:09,053         - I said: my name               is Walter Greyeyes        638 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,255         and they're going                to interview me,         639 00:33:11,322 --> 00:33:13,624       but I don't know what        they're going to talk about.   640 00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:17,795        Some of the people            that are coming back now,    641 00:33:17,862 --> 00:33:21,232       they were taken away            when they were younger.     642 00:33:21,299 --> 00:33:22,900      They're coming home now     643 00:33:22,967 --> 00:33:26,804   and they don't know how long          they're going to be       644 00:33:26,871 --> 00:33:29,007     and whether they're going           to stay, you know.        645 00:33:29,073 --> 00:33:30,575          I got a nephew                   in the States.          646 00:33:30,641 --> 00:33:33,111         I got two nieces                  in the States.          647 00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:34,746           I don't know                    where they are,         648 00:33:34,812 --> 00:33:36,214            whether...            649 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,982        One is in Arizona,        650 00:33:38,049 --> 00:33:42,487      one is in Pennsylvania,            and their brother.        651 00:33:42,553 --> 00:33:46,624    So, you know, I don't know         if I'll see them again,     652 00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:48,226       which would be nice.       653 00:33:48,292 --> 00:33:53,498       And the Sixties Scoop                here in 1968.          654 00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:58,803     Did anybody here remember       that big accident out here?   655 00:34:00,671 --> 00:34:02,507        1968, right, Rick?        656 00:34:02,573 --> 00:34:04,075       Where the casino is,       657 00:34:04,142 --> 00:34:06,511      where all them crosses              are on the road.         658 00:34:06,577 --> 00:34:09,614      Nine people got killed                on one night.          659 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,116        And they hit it on.       660 00:34:13,484 --> 00:34:14,819         Then, after that,        661 00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:18,823      that's when they start              taking the kids.         662 00:34:18,890 --> 00:34:21,859     Some went to the States.     663 00:34:21,926 --> 00:34:25,596      Some went to different                communities.           664 00:34:25,663 --> 00:34:28,833      But most of the people               that were older         665 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,602   looked after their siblings.   666 00:34:32,403 --> 00:34:34,639      I've made the crosses.      667 00:34:34,705 --> 00:34:36,240 I do that every once in a while. 668 00:34:36,307 --> 00:34:39,644      Every four, five years,          I'll make a whole set.      669 00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:40,978              It's...             670 00:34:41,045 --> 00:34:45,116           I think about                the people, the kids,      671 00:34:45,183 --> 00:34:47,552      and what they thought,               what they did,          672 00:34:47,618 --> 00:34:49,587      what they went through.     673 00:34:49,654 --> 00:34:51,622         You know, that...        674 00:34:54,592 --> 00:34:57,895  It must have been hard on them. 675 00:34:57,962 --> 00:35:00,131      I know it's hard on me.     676 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,403      It's hard on everybody.     677 00:35:07,138 --> 00:35:09,574      See... the fellow here,     678 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,008       that was one of them.      679 00:35:11,075 --> 00:35:13,744      Her parents were killed               on that road.          680 00:35:15,046 --> 00:35:17,381         - I'm Mary Chief                  from Brokenhead         681 00:35:17,448 --> 00:35:21,352      and they used my house              for Little Bird,         682 00:35:21,419 --> 00:35:23,721  the production of Little Bird.  683 00:35:24,789 --> 00:35:28,526       Like, I don't really                 know about...          684 00:35:28,593 --> 00:35:30,661       the children getting                 apprehended.           685 00:35:30,728 --> 00:35:34,866       It's just that, like,          it happened to my family.    686 00:35:34,932 --> 00:35:39,103    When my parents were killed       on that highway there...     687 00:35:47,812 --> 00:35:52,617               (♪♪♪)              688 00:35:52,683 --> 00:35:57,388      Yeah, it's really hard            to talk about it yet       689 00:35:57,455 --> 00:35:59,657         because there was                 no counselling.         690 00:35:59,724 --> 00:36:03,361      Like, there was nobody           to talk to us about it,     691 00:36:03,427 --> 00:36:06,597      to get everything out.      692 00:36:06,664 --> 00:36:08,399             And my...            693 00:36:08,466 --> 00:36:11,602        There was 11 of us.       694 00:36:11,669 --> 00:36:15,573       And me and my brother         that was the oldest son...    695 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,578   I was 18 and he was 20... 20.  696 00:36:20,645 --> 00:36:22,914  And then, we looked after them  697 00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:26,551    because those ones from...    698 00:36:26,617 --> 00:36:28,686          those nuns were                 trying to take...        699 00:36:28,753 --> 00:36:31,489 They kept coming back and forth,          back and forth,         700 00:36:31,556 --> 00:36:34,992    and, well, they seemed like        they're trying to help,     701 00:36:35,059 --> 00:36:37,795          but, you know,           as if they were trying to find  702 00:36:37,862 --> 00:36:42,900   something wrong in the house,    and then trying to take them.  703 00:36:43,935 --> 00:36:45,436       I was in the hospital                for a month,           704 00:36:45,503 --> 00:36:49,574     and then I got my sister            to look after them,       705 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,143        and when I came out              of the hospital...        706 00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:56,347     I was in there for about       almost three weeks, I guess.   707 00:36:56,414 --> 00:36:58,282    And then, when I came back,              and I said:           708 00:36:58,349 --> 00:37:02,019         "Where's Tuttle?"        709 00:37:02,086 --> 00:37:03,588       That's his nickname.       710 00:37:03,654 --> 00:37:05,756             And I...             711 00:37:05,823 --> 00:37:08,226      And nobody didn't want              to say anything.         712 00:37:08,292 --> 00:37:11,829      So, I phoned this lady,          the Child and Family...     713 00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:13,998     that worker at the time.     714 00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:18,502           And she said:                 "He's in Winnipeg."       715 00:37:18,569 --> 00:37:20,972    So, I went to that office,       and looking around for him,   716 00:37:21,038 --> 00:37:26,177   like, I'm home now, I could,   you know, take him home with me. 717 00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:30,114     So, he was around, what,     718 00:37:30,181 --> 00:37:33,117     about five, six years old              at the time,           719 00:37:33,184 --> 00:37:35,019    and then, all of a sudden,               I found out           720 00:37:35,086 --> 00:37:39,190        that he was adopted             out into the States.       721 00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:43,027        He was adopted out                 to a minister.          722 00:37:44,729 --> 00:37:48,666     And when he came back...     723 00:37:50,301 --> 00:37:54,472       he was so very quiet             all the time, and...       724 00:37:54,538 --> 00:37:57,208      he said he was abused.      725 00:37:58,409 --> 00:38:03,547               (♪♪♪)              726 00:38:21,265 --> 00:38:23,401  - I was an only adopted child.  727 00:38:23,467 --> 00:38:24,935  I didn't have any of my bro...  728 00:38:25,002 --> 00:38:26,671     I'm the oldest of seven.     729 00:38:26,737 --> 00:38:28,306       I have three brothers             and three sisters,        730 00:38:28,372 --> 00:38:30,308   but we were all parcelled out         all across Canada.        731 00:38:30,374 --> 00:38:32,176            I had to...           732 00:38:32,243 --> 00:38:33,678    Every time I got into a...    733 00:38:33,744 --> 00:38:35,112    Whether it was alcoholism,    734 00:38:35,179 --> 00:38:37,415           whatever kind               of situation I was in,      735 00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:40,084         it was just like             from the time I was five,    736 00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:42,687         I had to stand up               and take beatings.        737 00:38:42,753 --> 00:38:44,722    So, it wasn't any different              than that.            738 00:38:44,789 --> 00:38:46,924          I just thought:                 I gotta stand up.        739 00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:50,294            I can't...               There's nowhere else to go.   740 00:38:50,361 --> 00:38:53,297     I have no one to run to.                This is it.           741 00:38:53,364 --> 00:38:55,466           I have to...             Like I did when I was a kid,   742 00:38:55,533 --> 00:38:57,735   I gotta take care of myself.   743 00:38:57,802 --> 00:38:59,570          There has to be         744 00:38:59,637 --> 00:39:01,072     happiness and acceptance     745 00:39:01,138 --> 00:39:02,540     somewhere in this world,     746 00:39:02,606 --> 00:39:04,075    but I have to fight for it.   747 00:39:04,141 --> 00:39:05,509        It's not for free.        748 00:39:05,576 --> 00:39:08,212          Once I get it,            you have to fight to keep it.  749 00:39:08,279 --> 00:39:10,815      And that's what I did.      750 00:39:13,784 --> 00:39:18,089               (♪♪♪)              751 00:39:18,155 --> 00:39:20,157    - One of my favourite lines   752 00:39:20,224 --> 00:39:22,626          in the script,          753 00:39:22,693 --> 00:39:25,763           in describing               the Little Bird family      754 00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:29,433      and how they all sleep           together in their room.     755 00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:32,069     And it still makes me cry           to think about it.        756 00:39:32,136 --> 00:39:34,839           There's love                    in this family.         757 00:39:34,905 --> 00:39:39,443          And that's been                a guiding thought,        758 00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:41,912    you know, to me throughout          directing this show.       759 00:39:41,979 --> 00:39:44,048    And I wrote it on a paper,               a big paper           760 00:39:44,115 --> 00:39:45,483     in our production office.    761 00:39:45,549 --> 00:39:48,085      I wrote: "There's love              in this family."         762 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,592               (♪♪♪)              763 00:39:55,459 --> 00:39:58,362        - Hey! Do you think                that was funny?         764 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:13,144   - Today, the scene I will be        playing is a huge scene     765 00:40:13,210 --> 00:40:17,448    and it's the one when I get        taken away from my mom      766 00:40:17,515 --> 00:40:19,550    and I get put in a cop car.   767 00:40:19,617 --> 00:40:22,520             - As a mother, like,      you just can't even imagine 768 00:40:22,586 --> 00:40:26,223    or fathom going through this. 769 00:40:26,290 --> 00:40:28,092      And just seeing her play it 770 00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:29,994                  just puts me at              an emotional state. 771 00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:33,597               I'm usually crying           watching these scenes, 772 00:40:33,664 --> 00:40:35,166             these harder scenes. 773 00:40:35,232 --> 00:40:38,502          So, it's just really...      it really just, as a parent 774 00:40:38,569 --> 00:40:42,540                and as aboriginal         and just being affected, 775 00:40:42,606 --> 00:40:47,878             it just really grabs                   a hold of you. 776 00:40:49,814 --> 00:40:51,482          - I want to go                    with my mom!           777 00:40:51,549 --> 00:40:53,517                 - Hey! Hey! Hey!                   Go in our car! 778 00:40:53,584 --> 00:40:55,019           Hey! No! Hey!          779 00:40:55,085 --> 00:40:57,521       - You cannot do that!             You can't do that!        780 00:40:59,156 --> 00:41:02,126         - Ah!                                     - What the hell                    is she doing? 781 00:41:02,193 --> 00:41:03,861                       - Running. 782 00:41:05,896 --> 00:41:09,467                   - Ah! No!                  - No! No!            783 00:41:09,533 --> 00:41:14,238                 No! No!            - No! Give me my...            784 00:41:14,305 --> 00:41:16,073              Ah! Ah!             785 00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:18,876            - And cut!                       - Cut! Cut!           786 00:41:18,943 --> 00:41:20,978         - How's the mark?        787 00:41:21,045 --> 00:41:22,947                  - The thing I'm            thankful for the most 788 00:41:23,013 --> 00:41:24,548         is that she's able to... 789 00:41:24,615 --> 00:41:26,050                        You know,                 they yell "cut!" 790 00:41:26,116 --> 00:41:28,586        and she's able to go back         to her happy little self 791 00:41:28,652 --> 00:41:31,856           and it's not affecting                  her afterwards. 792 00:41:31,922 --> 00:41:33,557               (♪♪♪)              793 00:41:33,624 --> 00:41:38,496       - I think it's very,                very, very fun.         794 00:41:38,562 --> 00:41:43,601      And a lot of the people           here try to help me,       795 00:41:43,667 --> 00:41:46,570    and also, like my mom said,   796 00:41:46,637 --> 00:41:48,839           how she tries                 to check up on me,        797 00:41:48,906 --> 00:41:50,407     some people do that too.     798 00:41:50,474 --> 00:41:52,109                   Yeah.          799 00:41:54,445 --> 00:41:56,714          - We have seen              a lot of trauma on screen    800 00:41:56,780 --> 00:41:59,650           when it comes                to Indigenous people.      801 00:42:00,484 --> 00:42:02,920         And it is a part                   of our story.          802 00:42:04,021 --> 00:42:07,424            But I think                  that it's important       803 00:42:07,491 --> 00:42:09,560         to tell the story        804 00:42:09,627 --> 00:42:14,498    in a way that acknowledges               the trauma,           805 00:42:14,565 --> 00:42:19,603   but also respects the person        that is witnessing it,      806 00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:22,973           the audience,                   and the actors,         807 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,309        the people who are                 performing it.          808 00:42:26,110 --> 00:42:29,947   Like, there really is nothing       worse than going to set     809 00:42:30,014 --> 00:42:34,718    and doing a traumatic scene        as an Indigenous person     810 00:42:34,785 --> 00:42:36,754          and not seeing                one Indigenous person      811 00:42:36,820 --> 00:42:38,222           on the crew.           812 00:42:38,289 --> 00:42:42,126      So, we were just trying           to come at everything      813 00:42:42,192 --> 00:42:45,429         through the lens                  of recognizing          814 00:42:45,496 --> 00:42:48,265     how the stories of trauma    815 00:42:48,332 --> 00:42:52,236      might impact the person     816 00:42:52,303 --> 00:42:55,773      on camera, on the crew,     817 00:42:55,839 --> 00:42:58,142         in the audience.         818 00:42:59,043 --> 00:43:00,678     It's not void of trauma,     819 00:43:00,744 --> 00:43:05,816      it's just being careful       about how you tell the story.  820 00:43:11,021 --> 00:43:12,623 - I can't step on my shadow.     821 00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:14,391 - Hey, you,                      are you hot?                     822 00:43:15,225 --> 00:43:16,660   - It's been really wonderful   823 00:43:16,727 --> 00:43:20,064        to work with these               young child actors        824 00:43:20,130 --> 00:43:22,199      who are all growing up            in their communities,      825 00:43:22,266 --> 00:43:27,237  who are connected to community      and culture and language     826 00:43:27,304 --> 00:43:30,874       and are living full,                 joyful lives.          827 00:43:30,941 --> 00:43:34,078      Because to have joy is           a really radical thing      828 00:43:34,144 --> 00:43:36,347     as an Indigenous person.     829 00:43:36,413 --> 00:43:37,848        You know, we're not             supposed to be here,       830 00:43:37,915 --> 00:43:39,583      so the fact that we're             even able to laugh        831 00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:40,951         and to feel joy,         832 00:43:41,018 --> 00:43:43,854       that is a very, very              significant thing.        833 00:43:45,723 --> 00:43:48,592          To think about          834 00:43:48,659 --> 00:43:50,094  what our communities look like  835 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,662    when there are no children.   836 00:43:51,729 --> 00:43:53,697         You know, what...        837 00:43:54,798 --> 00:43:57,267         what is a nation               without its children?      838 00:43:57,334 --> 00:44:00,170   That's such a violent thing,               you know.            839 00:44:00,237 --> 00:44:04,775               (♪♪♪)              840 00:44:07,244 --> 00:44:09,279      - I am an Indian chief.     841 00:44:09,346 --> 00:44:11,415      I am an Indian father.      842 00:44:11,482 --> 00:44:12,883   I am an Indian man who hurts   843 00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:14,585       when I see our Indian             children taken away       844 00:44:14,652 --> 00:44:16,086       from their families,       845 00:44:16,153 --> 00:44:18,756   their land, their traditions,  846 00:44:18,822 --> 00:44:20,424        stolen and removed.       847 00:44:20,491 --> 00:44:23,627   The Spallumcheen Indian Band        has taken legal action      848 00:44:23,694 --> 00:44:25,963      against the provincial                 government            849 00:44:26,030 --> 00:44:29,266       to stop the stealing            of our Indian children.     850 00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:31,301   - Wayne Christian, he's a...   851 00:44:31,368 --> 00:44:33,537         he was the chief           of Spallumcheen Indian Band,   852 00:44:33,604 --> 00:44:35,005           or Splatsin.           853 00:44:35,072 --> 00:44:37,307    And he became chief at 19,    854 00:44:37,374 --> 00:44:38,776         and his platform                 was child welfare        855 00:44:38,842 --> 00:44:41,211         because that was          the community that out of 300,  856 00:44:41,278 --> 00:44:43,013       they had 100 children                apprehended.           857 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,517         And one weekend,          a social worker turned into...  858 00:44:46,583 --> 00:44:48,485     and apprehended 38 kids.     859 00:44:48,552 --> 00:44:51,088           - In my mind,              the provincial government    860 00:44:51,155 --> 00:44:55,492    has never really recognized    our rights or even our culture. 861 00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:57,661  There's always been a conflict          with our culture         862 00:44:57,728 --> 00:44:59,430    and the non-Indian culture.   863 00:44:59,496 --> 00:45:01,865   And one of the quickest ways        to assimilate a people      864 00:45:01,932 --> 00:45:05,769   is to destroy the family unit        and take the children      865 00:45:05,836 --> 00:45:07,905      and force them to live             in non-Indian homes       866 00:45:07,971 --> 00:45:09,840       to learn a different                 value system.          867 00:45:09,907 --> 00:45:12,710    And henceforth, in my mind,      it's a planned type thing.    868 00:45:12,776 --> 00:45:14,211               (♪♪♪)              869 00:45:14,278 --> 00:45:16,280      - They stole our land.      870 00:45:16,346 --> 00:45:17,815      They stole our culture.     871 00:45:17,881 --> 00:45:19,216     They stole our language.     872 00:45:19,283 --> 00:45:21,618     And now, they're stealing              our children.          873 00:45:21,685 --> 00:45:23,020     - They set up a caravan.     874 00:45:23,087 --> 00:45:25,923          They marched on            the provincial government.    875 00:45:25,989 --> 00:45:27,791          And he did make                a difference, yeah.       876 00:45:27,858 --> 00:45:29,493            They became                the only band in Canada     877 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,361       to have jurisdiction             over their children.       878 00:45:31,428 --> 00:45:33,831      - We want full control          of child welfare matters     879 00:45:33,897 --> 00:45:35,532     in our community, period.    880 00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:37,901     Like our first preference        is to rebuild the family.    881 00:45:37,968 --> 00:45:40,304   Were trying to get the parent    and the child back together,   882 00:45:40,370 --> 00:45:41,905      and that type of thing.     883 00:45:41,972 --> 00:45:43,941       And the second one is       with relatives, and on and on.  884 00:45:44,007 --> 00:45:45,542 The last resort, in our minds... 885 00:45:45,609 --> 00:45:48,378    We have to get that child,       in terms of a placement...    886 00:45:48,445 --> 00:45:50,481       We'll put the child,              as a last resort...       887 00:45:50,547 --> 00:45:51,915  I think there's seven of them.  888 00:45:51,982 --> 00:45:53,550         We'll place them             with a non-Indian family     889 00:45:53,617 --> 00:45:55,018         off the reserve.         890 00:45:55,085 --> 00:45:56,553       Because that would be              the last resort.         891 00:45:56,620 --> 00:45:58,856      Or if that's the wishes         of the parent, you know.     892 00:45:58,922 --> 00:46:00,991  Like, we have to consider also  893 00:46:01,058 --> 00:46:02,526 if it's the wishes of the child. 894 00:46:02,593 --> 00:46:04,595       Those are the things       we consider with our legislation 895 00:46:04,661 --> 00:46:06,396         because we listen                 to our people.          896 00:46:06,463 --> 00:46:10,634     (indistinct conversation)    897 00:46:11,635 --> 00:46:13,303       - The experience here               on Little Bird,         898 00:46:13,370 --> 00:46:15,906         there definitely            is a respect to the story,    899 00:46:15,973 --> 00:46:17,407   to what it is we're telling.   900 00:46:17,474 --> 00:46:20,144     Because some of the crew           members don't realize      901 00:46:20,210 --> 00:46:22,045      that that's my auntie,              that's my uncle.         902 00:46:22,112 --> 00:46:23,514      You know, that's right,                 in a way.            903 00:46:23,580 --> 00:46:25,182         That's my auntie,             my uncle that's crying.     904 00:46:25,249 --> 00:46:26,884      It's the same for a lot          of people on our crew.      905 00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:29,753       And... So, it's also             an educational point       906 00:46:29,820 --> 00:46:31,688      for our non-Indigenous                friends here.          907 00:46:31,755 --> 00:46:35,392         So, there's a lot          of on-set learning going on,   908 00:46:35,459 --> 00:46:37,494        a lot of questions                  being asked.           909 00:46:38,395 --> 00:46:39,730      We're more visible now      910 00:46:39,797 --> 00:46:41,632    than we were ten years ago              on film sets,          911 00:46:41,698 --> 00:46:43,400       and I recognize that.      912 00:46:43,467 --> 00:46:44,935    There were times I'd come,             show up to work         913 00:46:45,002 --> 00:46:47,271        and I'd be the only           Indigenous person on set.    914 00:46:47,337 --> 00:46:50,407      It'd be like, you know,       this is like how Manitoba is.  915 00:46:50,474 --> 00:46:51,975   And it's like, no, it's not.   916 00:46:52,042 --> 00:46:53,544     There's a huge Indigenous            population here,         917 00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:55,179   you're just not seeing them.   918 00:46:55,245 --> 00:46:57,915        - There is one, it's just            the way it's written. 919 00:46:57,981 --> 00:46:59,616       - Working with Maija             and things like that,      920 00:46:59,683 --> 00:47:01,151            she fights                   for what she wants.       921 00:47:01,218 --> 00:47:04,254        And a lot of people              might look at that        922 00:47:04,321 --> 00:47:07,257  as just a director or whatever,     fighting about something.    923 00:47:07,324 --> 00:47:09,293   But myself, as a storyteller   924 00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:10,794  and also as an Anishinaabe man, 925 00:47:10,861 --> 00:47:13,730        you know, it feels              so important for them      926 00:47:13,797 --> 00:47:16,266    to fight for these stories        or just for these takes.     927 00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:23,574  - We deserve to lead the front     in telling our own stories.   928 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,210         We deserve space                 in this industry.        929 00:47:26,276 --> 00:47:29,179       Narrative sovereignty          is a very tangible thing.    930 00:47:29,246 --> 00:47:33,650    It is something that we can        achieve as an industry.     931 00:47:33,717 --> 00:47:38,255  It just requires a major shift        in power structures.       932 00:47:38,322 --> 00:47:41,525       And it needs to move             beyond just us being,      933 00:47:41,592 --> 00:47:45,028       you know, consultants             on our own stories.       934 00:47:45,095 --> 00:47:47,564        And I think we are               seeing that shift.        935 00:47:47,631 --> 00:47:50,968     (indistinct conversation)    936 00:47:53,704 --> 00:47:55,505      - Having women on set,      937 00:47:55,572 --> 00:47:57,808          just especially                 Indigenous women,        938 00:47:57,875 --> 00:48:00,944   just makes me feel less fear.  939 00:48:01,011 --> 00:48:02,279              (laugh)             940 00:48:02,346 --> 00:48:04,748       Like, I try not to be              intimidated by...        941 00:48:04,815 --> 00:48:08,018      well, one, all the men,        but also White men on set.    942 00:48:08,085 --> 00:48:09,419           I've been...           943 00:48:09,486 --> 00:48:11,655     I just love that I could          probably be more myself     944 00:48:11,722 --> 00:48:13,123     instead of being guarded     945 00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:14,758 because you waste so much energy 946 00:48:14,825 --> 00:48:17,394    trying to protect yourself           and all this stuff.       947 00:48:17,461 --> 00:48:19,763       Whereas when I'm with          Indigenous women on set,     948 00:48:19,830 --> 00:48:22,232       I feel like I can let              a few walls down         949 00:48:22,299 --> 00:48:25,269         and actually let               real creativity flow.      950 00:48:27,971 --> 00:48:30,674      I'm only just learning           about the Sixties Scoop     951 00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:35,112       and how that affected       a lot of our people growing up. 952 00:48:35,178 --> 00:48:38,515      But both my parents are       residential school survivors,  953 00:48:38,582 --> 00:48:42,519         so I have an idea                  of the trauma          954 00:48:42,586 --> 00:48:46,223           and baggage,                 all that comes with.       955 00:48:46,290 --> 00:48:48,025     I think it's important...    956 00:48:48,091 --> 00:48:49,693              (sigh)              957 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,161  ... that others hear about it.  958 00:48:51,228 --> 00:48:54,197       Just because how are            things going to change      959 00:48:54,264 --> 00:48:56,500      if we can't get people             to really empathize       960 00:48:56,566 --> 00:49:01,038         with our history                   and all that?          961 00:49:01,104 --> 00:49:03,407           - Here we go!                   We're rolling!          962 00:49:04,207 --> 00:49:06,810   - Something that I've spoken            about before is         963 00:49:06,877 --> 00:49:09,046     the controversy of having    964 00:49:09,112 --> 00:49:12,883   non-Indigenous women stepping       into Indigenous roles,      965 00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:15,252   casting someone who may look       Native but isn't Native.     966 00:49:15,319 --> 00:49:16,987     And some people are like:    967 00:49:17,054 --> 00:49:18,522            "Well, does that mean                  that, you know, 968 00:49:18,588 --> 00:49:21,558                    "you can only                  play a Native?" 969 00:49:21,625 --> 00:49:23,894         And I'm like: "Well, no,            it doesn't mean that. 970 00:49:23,961 --> 00:49:27,864   "What it means is that I carry         those stories in my DNA. 971 00:49:27,931 --> 00:49:29,833     "So, when I tell that story,       it's going to be different 972 00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:31,902        than somebody who doesn't         have the life experience 973 00:49:31,969 --> 00:49:34,037                   of being brown                or being Native." 974 00:49:34,104 --> 00:49:37,407   Right now, I mean, we've lived       where it's been like this, 975 00:49:37,474 --> 00:49:40,177           where Native people in  the country have been like this 976 00:49:40,243 --> 00:49:42,713               and the mainstream                  have been here. 977 00:49:42,779 --> 00:49:45,148              So, until it starts                      to go here, 978 00:49:45,215 --> 00:49:46,984                   it's really... 979 00:49:47,050 --> 00:49:49,252                  You know, like,        then we can start talking 980 00:49:49,319 --> 00:49:52,089              about playing roles                 as human beings. 981 00:49:52,155 --> 00:49:53,523                  But until then, 982 00:49:53,590 --> 00:49:55,459                you know, we need            to express ourselves, 983 00:49:55,525 --> 00:49:57,694                  we need to step                  into our light, 984 00:49:57,761 --> 00:50:00,864  we need to reclaim those roles. 985 00:50:00,931 --> 00:50:02,632 - Let's see.                     Look at me.                      986 00:50:03,667 --> 00:50:06,136    - I can remember as a kid,              I saw Tantoo           987 00:50:06,203 --> 00:50:08,805             and I was like: "Ah!    That's a Native woman on TV!" 988 00:50:08,872 --> 00:50:11,274           Because it was so rare                to see ourselves. 989 00:50:11,341 --> 00:50:13,076               And now, you know,                 this generation, 990 00:50:13,143 --> 00:50:14,444                   we've got APTN 991 00:50:14,511 --> 00:50:17,014                    and we've got       Indigenous radio stations, 992 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,515          and it's not a big deal 993 00:50:18,582 --> 00:50:21,351         to turn on the TV          and see an Indigenous person.  994 00:50:21,418 --> 00:50:23,053      But myself growing up,      995 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,988         that was so rare.        996 00:50:26,123 --> 00:50:28,125  - I'm a young actor, obviously! 997 00:50:28,191 --> 00:50:29,659      I'm new to this still.      998 00:50:29,726 --> 00:50:31,595            I'm just...           999 00:50:31,661 --> 00:50:33,030 I'm taking it all in.            1000 00:50:33,096 --> 00:50:34,498 And then, I'm also               talking to my mom,               1001 00:50:34,564 --> 00:50:36,400 who's also watching it with me   and she's an actor.              1002 00:50:36,466 --> 00:50:39,302 So, learning how she did         things is so different.          1003 00:50:39,369 --> 00:50:44,474       So, I'm just grateful        that I came in at this time.   1004 00:50:45,509 --> 00:50:48,111    - To know that what you do             as an artist...         1005 00:50:48,178 --> 00:50:50,113      And this is what I tell               my daughter:           1006 00:50:50,180 --> 00:50:52,416              is that as artists,            we are only channels. 1007 00:50:52,482 --> 00:50:53,850               It's not about us. 1008 00:50:53,917 --> 00:50:56,086   It's not about me personally.  1009 00:50:56,153 --> 00:50:58,522     It's about the character        that I am bringing through    1010 00:50:58,588 --> 00:51:00,891  and it's about the grandmothers                and the ancestors 1011 00:51:00,957 --> 00:51:02,826  bringing that story through us. 1012 00:51:04,027 --> 00:51:08,932               (♪♪♪)              1013 00:51:08,999 --> 00:51:11,001     - There's a lot of people    1014 00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:14,871 with good intentions who want to  support Indigenous productions, 1015 00:51:14,938 --> 00:51:18,742      but aren't necessarily            willing to recognize       1016 00:51:18,809 --> 00:51:20,377    that the systems in place,    1017 00:51:20,444 --> 00:51:22,546   the power structures in place       need to be dismantled.      1018 00:51:22,612 --> 00:51:24,714  Because, you know, we're having        these conversations       1019 00:51:24,781 --> 00:51:26,683  around diversity and inclusion. 1020 00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:30,854      I'm so tired of hearing              those two terms         1021 00:51:30,921 --> 00:51:33,557         because inclusion               inherently centers        1022 00:51:33,623 --> 00:51:35,325   White voices, settler voices.  1023 00:51:35,392 --> 00:51:39,029     It just means that we get      a little bit more resources.   1024 00:51:39,096 --> 00:51:43,100     But we're not witnessing         actual change and action     1025 00:51:43,166 --> 00:51:44,768     on the part of settlers.     1026 00:51:44,835 --> 00:51:47,370      It's Indigenous voices         who are continually having    1027 00:51:47,437 --> 00:51:49,406         to do that labour            and to make that change.     1028 00:51:49,473 --> 00:51:52,876          - Quite often,                 we are put into...        1029 00:51:54,744 --> 00:51:57,581        these relationships           where we have to partner     1030 00:51:57,647 --> 00:51:59,649  with a non-Indigenous partner.  1031 00:51:59,716 --> 00:52:02,352          And that's been                 a real challenge,        1032 00:52:02,419 --> 00:52:05,622     and it's been a challenge         on multiple productions     1033 00:52:05,689 --> 00:52:08,758         because it's hard            acknowledging privilege.     1034 00:52:08,825 --> 00:52:10,427           It really is.          1035 00:52:10,494 --> 00:52:12,762      And in order for these           relationships to work,      1036 00:52:12,829 --> 00:52:14,464           you have to.           1037 00:52:14,531 --> 00:52:16,066     And you have to recognize    1038 00:52:16,133 --> 00:52:19,069          that if you say           that you're here to support,   1039 00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:20,770     then you have to support.    1040 00:52:20,837 --> 00:52:22,239     And what does that mean?     1041 00:52:22,305 --> 00:52:25,442        Because, you know,                 when I sit here         1042 00:52:25,509 --> 00:52:27,010      and say I need support              and I need help,         1043 00:52:27,077 --> 00:52:30,247       that's not weakness,                   that's...            1044 00:52:32,282 --> 00:52:34,351        So, it doesn't mean          that I need you to step in    1045 00:52:34,417 --> 00:52:36,319     and fix something, right?    1046 00:52:36,386 --> 00:52:38,788       I'm saying I need you          to step back and listen.     1047 00:52:38,855 --> 00:52:41,591        - There's been some             upsetting experiences      1048 00:52:41,658 --> 00:52:43,960 that I've had on this production 1049 00:52:44,027 --> 00:52:48,064  that are reflective of being on the receiving end of paternalism 1050 00:52:48,131 --> 00:52:50,133    and being on the receiving             end of distrust         1051 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,337       and ultimately being        on the receiving end of racism. 1052 00:52:54,404 --> 00:52:55,972       But that being said,       1053 00:52:56,039 --> 00:52:58,675    there's a lot of beautiful       aspects to this production    1054 00:52:58,742 --> 00:53:03,513    in terms of the Indigenous              team members           1055 00:53:03,580 --> 00:53:05,415      who are taking charge,      1056 00:53:05,482 --> 00:53:07,584     who are trying to change           the way we do things.      1057 00:53:07,651 --> 00:53:09,986           And then also              our non-Indigenous allies    1058 00:53:10,053 --> 00:53:11,488           who are part                  of this production        1059 00:53:11,555 --> 00:53:15,392         and who are doing            their very best to change    1060 00:53:15,458 --> 00:53:17,294         how we do things.        1061 00:53:18,428 --> 00:53:20,096         - Four years ago,        1062 00:53:20,163 --> 00:53:23,099       my agent forwarded me             just a page or two        1063 00:53:23,166 --> 00:53:27,237     that Resolution Pictures       had developed on Little Bird.  1064 00:53:27,304 --> 00:53:29,506              And...              1065 00:53:29,573 --> 00:53:34,077        I didn't know about           the Sixties Scoop and...     1066 00:53:35,145 --> 00:53:39,349      I read it and I called          my agent, and I was like:    1067 00:53:39,416 --> 00:53:43,587         "I would do this               if they want me to."       1068 00:53:43,653 --> 00:53:47,390      Like, the thought to me         that there was a genocide    1069 00:53:47,457 --> 00:53:49,659     that wasn't known was...                 it was...            1070 00:53:51,061 --> 00:53:54,998 just stunning and heartbreaking. 1071 00:53:55,966 --> 00:53:58,401          Because there's              such an important part      1072 00:53:58,468 --> 00:54:00,737      of my community story's             that we get to...        1073 00:54:00,804 --> 00:54:02,372            It's known.           1074 00:54:02,439 --> 00:54:04,507         Esther is Jewish.        1075 00:54:04,574 --> 00:54:09,212   And so representing that was     also important on the screen.  1076 00:54:09,279 --> 00:54:11,448            (chanting)            1077 00:54:11,514 --> 00:54:14,784 I'm using my Jewishness in order      to, like, get those...      1078 00:54:14,851 --> 00:54:19,289   the minutiae of being a part       of a specific community.     1079 00:54:20,290 --> 00:54:21,725           I haven't...                   I've never worked        1080 00:54:21,791 --> 00:54:23,293         on a show that's                 this meaningful.         1081 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,495   I think this set has been...   1082 00:54:25,562 --> 00:54:27,030   I hope, for other people too.  1083 00:54:27,097 --> 00:54:28,498     It's been collaborative,     1084 00:54:28,565 --> 00:54:31,234    which has felt really good          and beautiful to me.       1085 00:54:31,301 --> 00:54:34,204          I've been like:              "Wow, we're really able     1086 00:54:34,271 --> 00:54:35,605     to collaborate on this."     1087 00:54:35,672 --> 00:54:37,073       And so, there's just                a lot of people         1088 00:54:37,140 --> 00:54:39,142    who are trying really hard            to make it better        1089 00:54:39,209 --> 00:54:40,944    and working together on it.   1090 00:54:41,011 --> 00:54:44,481      You know, that doesn't               always happen.          1091 00:54:45,515 --> 00:54:47,150 Do you want to have              that girl in the back?           1092 00:54:47,217 --> 00:54:49,286  - This whole story is very much 1093 00:54:49,352 --> 00:54:53,757           based on much               of my life experience.      1094 00:54:53,823 --> 00:54:55,825        Also, my mother's,        1095 00:54:55,892 --> 00:54:59,362     being an Indigenous woman    1096 00:54:59,429 --> 00:55:01,564   coming into a Jewish family,   1097 00:55:01,631 --> 00:55:06,569  and how isolated that she felt  1098 00:55:06,636 --> 00:55:10,073    and how ostracized she was.   1099 00:55:11,908 --> 00:55:13,910        And then my own...        1100 00:55:13,977 --> 00:55:17,147     really my own psychology             around identity.         1101 00:55:17,213 --> 00:55:19,949     I have never ever fit in     1102 00:55:20,016 --> 00:55:24,454       to what I'm supposed                 to fit into.           1103 00:55:24,521 --> 00:55:28,958      So, I think, you know,             Esther is the same.       1104 00:55:29,025 --> 00:55:31,895   You know, I wanted that to be      a part of who Esther is.     1105 00:55:31,961 --> 00:55:36,766  You know, just not ever really     fitting into being Jewish.    1106 00:55:36,833 --> 00:55:40,003     The difference is she was     adopted and is fully Indigenous 1107 00:55:40,070 --> 00:55:43,139     and I am actually Jewish!    1108 00:55:43,206 --> 00:55:44,908        Still don't fit in!       1109 00:55:44,974 --> 00:55:46,643              But...              1110 00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:48,645     And then, we brought in,                 you know,            1111 00:55:48,712 --> 00:55:53,149       real actual survivors      1112 00:55:53,216 --> 00:55:54,784       of the Sixties Scoop       1113 00:55:54,851 --> 00:55:58,922         to help us really              shape the experience       1114 00:55:58,988 --> 00:56:01,124         through the lens                 of being adopted.        1115 00:56:01,191 --> 00:56:02,859       - My name is Nakuset.      1116 00:56:02,926 --> 00:56:05,695        I'm originally from          Lac La Ronge, Saskatchewan,   1117 00:56:05,762 --> 00:56:07,297             Treaty 6.            1118 00:56:07,364 --> 00:56:08,832   However, I live in Montreal.   1119 00:56:08,898 --> 00:56:10,767 I run the Native Women's Shelter           of Montreal.           1120 00:56:10,834 --> 00:56:12,402    I'm the executive director.   1121 00:56:12,469 --> 00:56:16,639    But my role on Little Bird           was as a consultant       1122 00:56:16,706 --> 00:56:20,343     because I was adopted by       a Jewish family in Westmount.  1123 00:56:20,410 --> 00:56:22,412       So, Jennifer thought            it would be interesting     1124 00:56:22,479 --> 00:56:24,781  to have my point of view and... 1125 00:56:24,848 --> 00:56:27,484          I know that in,              you know, Little Bird,      1126 00:56:27,550 --> 00:56:32,155    the family was very loving             and connected.          1127 00:56:32,222 --> 00:56:34,090    My experience was not that.   1128 00:56:34,157 --> 00:56:37,360       So, it was important              for me to be moved,       1129 00:56:37,427 --> 00:56:41,231          not necessarily           all the way here to Montreal.  1130 00:56:41,297 --> 00:56:43,767          But, you know,              I did have other siblings    1131 00:56:43,833 --> 00:56:45,702  that were older and responsible 1132 00:56:45,769 --> 00:56:47,370      and wanted to keep me.      1133 00:56:47,437 --> 00:56:50,540   But the idea was to remove me          from the family,         1134 00:56:50,607 --> 00:56:52,075     put me into a White home,    1135 00:56:52,142 --> 00:56:54,811          change my name,                change my culture.        1136 00:56:54,878 --> 00:56:57,147  I would lose my Indian status.  1137 00:56:57,213 --> 00:57:01,050     I would become part of...       you know, like assimilated    1138 00:57:01,117 --> 00:57:02,786     and lose all my culture.     1139 00:57:02,852 --> 00:57:07,257               (♪♪♪)              1140 00:57:07,323 --> 00:57:08,858    - One day, social services              were called.           1141 00:57:08,925 --> 00:57:10,527     I think they were called            a number of times,        1142 00:57:10,593 --> 00:57:13,430         but the only time          I remember is the last time.   1143 00:57:13,496 --> 00:57:14,864       And the police came,       1144 00:57:14,931 --> 00:57:17,734     and I remember, you know,              seeing this.           1145 00:57:17,801 --> 00:57:20,236  It was the old style, you know, 1146 00:57:20,303 --> 00:57:23,673        like rounded black             with the cherry on top,     1147 00:57:23,740 --> 00:57:25,175     that type of police car.     1148 00:57:25,241 --> 00:57:28,011         And we carted off                to Kilburn Hall,         1149 00:57:28,077 --> 00:57:30,447    which was a receiving home              at that time.          1150 00:57:30,513 --> 00:57:34,217  And we loved it there because,   you know, it was like good food 1151 00:57:34,284 --> 00:57:36,019       and we loved to eat.       1152 00:57:36,085 --> 00:57:38,922     And we got treated well.     1153 00:57:38,988 --> 00:57:40,924       And then we were put                in foster care.         1154 00:57:40,990 --> 00:57:43,893   And my foster care experience          was a nightmare.         1155 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,995     Abuse of all kinds there.    1156 00:57:46,062 --> 00:57:48,198   We were treated like animals.         We didn't even eat.       1157 00:57:48,264 --> 00:57:49,999        I was never allowed                in the kitchen.         1158 00:57:50,066 --> 00:57:52,168  And so the day that the social  worker came to take me, I was... 1159 00:57:52,235 --> 00:57:54,704      The foster mother said:           "Here, come in here."      1160 00:57:54,771 --> 00:57:56,272          And I sat there               and I was so nervous.      1161 00:57:56,339 --> 00:57:57,907   She gave me milk and cookies.  1162 00:57:57,974 --> 00:57:59,976     And I was so nervous that     I swallowed the milk too fast,  1163 00:58:00,043 --> 00:58:01,878      it came out of my nose.     1164 00:58:01,945 --> 00:58:03,980      That's what I remember!     1165 00:58:04,047 --> 00:58:06,316  And then, she's kind of, like,     you know, fretting over me.   1166 00:58:06,382 --> 00:58:08,451     And it was very bizarre.     1167 00:58:08,518 --> 00:58:09,886 It's like: what's going on here? 1168 00:58:09,953 --> 00:58:11,688      And my sister came home               from school.           1169 00:58:11,754 --> 00:58:13,690     I was still, you know...            I was still like...       1170 00:58:13,756 --> 00:58:15,158   It's just my fifth birthday.   1171 00:58:15,225 --> 00:58:16,926         And she came home           from school and I was gone.   1172 00:58:16,993 --> 00:58:21,764      I didn't see her again          for 20... 22 years. Yeah.    1173 00:58:21,831 --> 00:58:26,803               (♪♪♪)              1174 00:58:27,570 --> 00:58:30,306   - Probably at about 12 years        old, I began searching.     1175 00:58:30,373 --> 00:58:31,841   I didn't feel like I had it.   1176 00:58:31,908 --> 00:58:33,610       Like, I had a family.      1177 00:58:33,676 --> 00:58:36,379    I had a home, but I didn't      really have a family, right?   1178 00:58:36,446 --> 00:58:37,981       So, I began searching      1179 00:58:38,047 --> 00:58:41,384       and I ended up going               out to Vancouver,        1180 00:58:41,451 --> 00:58:42,986   where my birth mother lived.   1181 00:58:43,052 --> 00:58:48,091       And, you know, it was       a bittersweet reunion as well.  1182 00:58:48,157 --> 00:58:50,093      My mom has some issues                 of her own            1183 00:58:50,159 --> 00:58:53,196    that she's still working on   and struggling with to this day. 1184 00:58:53,263 --> 00:58:56,332           But I met her               where she is, you know,     1185 00:58:56,399 --> 00:58:59,569      and I don't expect more           from... from what...       1186 00:58:59,636 --> 00:59:00,904             from her.            1187 00:59:00,970 --> 00:59:03,273       I'm accepting of what              she's capable of.        1188 00:59:03,339 --> 00:59:04,774        And you know what,                  she's funny.           1189 00:59:04,841 --> 00:59:07,176           She's great.                  She's a good cook.        1190 00:59:07,243 --> 00:59:09,045        She tries her best                to look after us.        1191 00:59:09,112 --> 00:59:13,016               (♪♪♪)              1192 00:59:17,654 --> 00:59:21,457       - Esther's character          is finding out where to go.   1193 00:59:21,524 --> 00:59:24,060     Like, she's been lost and      driving around her community,  1194 00:59:24,127 --> 00:59:28,164  and she encounters someone who  helps her figure out where to go 1195 00:59:28,231 --> 00:59:29,666   and where to find her family,  1196 00:59:29,732 --> 00:59:31,467    because they remember her.    1197 00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:35,772  - I think I might be from here. 1198 00:59:36,573 --> 00:59:38,841     - What's your name, then?                - Bezhig.            1199 00:59:38,908 --> 00:59:40,443          I had siblings.         1200 00:59:40,510 --> 00:59:41,978         We were adopted.         1201 00:59:42,045 --> 00:59:43,479 - Follow that river.             1202 00:59:43,546 --> 00:59:45,214       Go right to the end.       1203 00:59:45,281 --> 00:59:47,684    And it's the long driveway              on the right.          1204 00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:49,185        You can't miss it.        1205 00:59:49,252 --> 00:59:53,790               (♪♪♪)              1206 01:00:00,563 --> 01:00:02,432     - Like, people are trying         to find their families.     1207 01:00:02,498 --> 01:00:04,500       People are displaced            from their communities.     1208 01:00:04,567 --> 01:00:08,705         People don't have            that feeling of I'm home.    1209 01:00:08,771 --> 01:00:10,239    Even though they are home.    1210 01:00:10,306 --> 01:00:11,708        This is their land.       1211 01:00:11,774 --> 01:00:13,610       You know what I mean?           It's very complicated.      1212 01:00:13,676 --> 01:00:18,848               (♪♪♪)              1213 01:00:20,583 --> 01:00:24,754    - In 1995, I came back here   1214 01:00:24,821 --> 01:00:28,191   and I just was like a sponge,        you know what I mean?      1215 01:00:28,257 --> 01:00:30,360        For... What was it?       1216 01:00:30,426 --> 01:00:32,061     Because all these years,     1217 01:00:32,128 --> 01:00:34,030 I was never known as what I was. 1218 01:00:34,097 --> 01:00:37,333       I was an Anishinaabe             First Nation person.       1219 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,969     So, that coming back home            to this reserve,         1220 01:00:40,036 --> 01:00:42,171           I didn't know               what I was coming into,     1221 01:00:42,238 --> 01:00:45,108    because all I had previous        to that for understanding    1222 01:00:45,174 --> 01:00:48,711   what it was to be Anishinaabe      was what was ever on TV.     1223 01:00:48,778 --> 01:00:51,347          So, of course,             one of my younger years...    1224 01:00:51,414 --> 01:00:54,717      Tatanka, Chief Wahoo...     1225 01:00:54,784 --> 01:00:56,319     And those are all things     1226 01:00:56,386 --> 01:00:59,489    that, I think, people only      understood to be Anishinaabe   1227 01:00:59,555 --> 01:01:01,024  or Native American down there,  1228 01:01:01,090 --> 01:01:02,425     because there wasn't much    1229 01:01:02,492 --> 01:01:04,060        that was available              other than Hollywood.      1230 01:01:04,127 --> 01:01:05,828               (♪♪♪)              1231 01:01:05,895 --> 01:01:08,665        - When I was living                 in Westmount,          1232 01:01:08,731 --> 01:01:11,601       my biological sister,              Sonya, turned 18.        1233 01:01:11,668 --> 01:01:14,237          She saw my name          and she had been looking for me 1234 01:01:14,303 --> 01:01:15,705      since we were separated     1235 01:01:15,772 --> 01:01:18,441       because I was three,                but she was six         1236 01:01:18,508 --> 01:01:20,410          and she clearly               remembered who I was.      1237 01:01:20,476 --> 01:01:23,413      So, she started writing               letters to me          1238 01:01:23,479 --> 01:01:25,915        since she turned 18       1239 01:01:25,982 --> 01:01:27,383   and I was probably about 15.   1240 01:01:27,450 --> 01:01:28,918     And my parents were just          ripping up the letters.     1241 01:01:28,985 --> 01:01:32,121     They were not allowing us            to have anything.        1242 01:01:32,188 --> 01:01:34,457    They wanted no connection.    1243 01:01:34,524 --> 01:01:36,726            Like, I had              an incredible relationship    1244 01:01:36,793 --> 01:01:38,695          with my bubbie,               not with my parents,       1245 01:01:38,761 --> 01:01:42,065    whereas Esther had a great      relationship with her mother.  1246 01:01:42,131 --> 01:01:45,568    So, that was not the same,       but it was really my bubbie   1247 01:01:45,635 --> 01:01:49,138          that pushed me               because she was dying.      1248 01:01:51,908 --> 01:01:55,178       (clearing her throat)      1249 01:01:55,244 --> 01:01:57,280   She knew that when she'd died          that I would have        1250 01:01:57,346 --> 01:01:59,649        no more connection                 with my family          1251 01:02:00,950 --> 01:02:03,753           and wanted me                to have a connection       1252 01:02:03,820 --> 01:02:06,089    with my Indigenous family.    1253 01:02:07,523 --> 01:02:09,292  So, she bought my plane ticket  1254 01:02:09,358 --> 01:02:13,129   and sent me down to Winnipeg,  1255 01:02:13,196 --> 01:02:15,665     where I ended up meeting     1256 01:02:15,732 --> 01:02:17,400        one of my brothers.       1257 01:02:17,467 --> 01:02:18,801       He tried to adopt me,      1258 01:02:18,868 --> 01:02:20,870        but the government            didn't really want that.     1259 01:02:20,937 --> 01:02:24,607       And then I met Sonya,             which was awesome,        1260 01:02:24,674 --> 01:02:26,242   because that bond that we had         when we were kids,        1261 01:02:26,309 --> 01:02:27,944      it never really ended.      1262 01:02:28,010 --> 01:02:32,815               (♪♪♪)              1263 01:02:35,885 --> 01:02:38,988 - The discourse of child saving, 1264 01:02:39,055 --> 01:02:41,290     it's like an overarching                 narrative            1265 01:02:41,357 --> 01:02:43,359      that can really subsume     1266 01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:47,497    lots of nefarious conduct.    1267 01:02:47,563 --> 01:02:50,500        "We're just trying            to help these children."     1268 01:02:50,566 --> 01:02:52,335         That's the child                 saving narrative.        1269 01:02:52,401 --> 01:02:53,870       It's that, you know,       1270 01:02:53,936 --> 01:02:56,939 our families and our communities     were in such dire straits    1271 01:02:57,006 --> 01:02:59,308    that we just were incapable       of raising our children.     1272 01:02:59,375 --> 01:03:01,778         And so, the great              White saviour came in      1273 01:03:01,844 --> 01:03:04,847  to rescue our children from us. 1274 01:03:04,914 --> 01:03:07,350         Nothing could be              further from the truth.     1275 01:03:08,584 --> 01:03:10,186      Even though it's called            the Sixties Scoop,        1276 01:03:10,253 --> 01:03:12,255        I had adoptees say:          "Well, I'm not part of that   1277 01:03:12,321 --> 01:03:13,923       because I was adopted                in the 70s."           1278 01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:15,758       But it's like, no...       1279 01:03:15,825 --> 01:03:17,894      It spanned from the 50s     1280 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,163         into about 1985,         1281 01:03:20,229 --> 01:03:22,465     when there was an inquiry            here in Manitoba.        1282 01:03:23,232 --> 01:03:25,468        So, Edwin Kimmelman                 was appointed          1283 01:03:25,535 --> 01:03:27,870     to oversee this inquiry.     1284 01:03:27,937 --> 01:03:29,405         Because he wanted             to find out, you know.      1285 01:03:29,472 --> 01:03:30,973         Indigenous people                 are complaining         1286 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,375      about what's going on.      1287 01:03:32,441 --> 01:03:34,710       And so he interviewed               social workers          1288 01:03:34,777 --> 01:03:37,213        and administrators                and bureaucrats.         1289 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,682        And he also looked                 at case files.          1290 01:03:39,749 --> 01:03:41,284      He was really concerned            with what he found,       1291 01:03:41,350 --> 01:03:43,719    which was that there was...   1292 01:03:43,786 --> 01:03:46,422      The process of children       being apprehended, it was...   1293 01:03:46,489 --> 01:03:48,758       Like, the case files             were a mess, he said.      1294 01:03:48,825 --> 01:03:50,459      And his conclusion was        that it was cultural genocide  1295 01:03:50,526 --> 01:03:52,061       because a lot of kids             from Manitoba were        1296 01:03:52,128 --> 01:03:53,796    shipped down to the States,   1297 01:03:53,863 --> 01:03:55,731        the Midwest states.       1298 01:03:57,633 --> 01:04:00,570   - There are so many children      that were taken from Canada   1299 01:04:00,636 --> 01:04:02,205   and adopted into the States.   1300 01:04:02,271 --> 01:04:04,941       Some of the adoptions        that passed through happened   1301 01:04:05,007 --> 01:04:06,409  at, like, a McDonald's, right?  1302 01:04:06,475 --> 01:04:08,778       Like: "Hey, you like             this kid? Take him."       1303 01:04:08,845 --> 01:04:10,413      They didn't necessarily             check backgrounds        1304 01:04:10,479 --> 01:04:11,881         for the families.        1305 01:04:11,948 --> 01:04:13,316     Like, it wasn't important    1306 01:04:13,382 --> 01:04:16,385       if the families were                able to support         1307 01:04:16,452 --> 01:04:19,922  or were even should-be parents. 1308 01:04:21,757 --> 01:04:24,560        - Justice Kimmelman                 said no more.          1309 01:04:24,627 --> 01:04:25,995    This is cultural genocide.    1310 01:04:26,062 --> 01:04:28,264         No more adopting            Indigenous kids in Manitoba   1311 01:04:28,331 --> 01:04:29,832   into non-Indigenous families.  1312 01:04:29,899 --> 01:04:31,200         Just in Manitoba.        1313 01:04:31,267 --> 01:04:33,236        But other provinces            were paying attention,      1314 01:04:33,302 --> 01:04:35,771    so they sort of took note.    1315 01:04:35,838 --> 01:04:38,241        And the moratorium              was on the placement,      1316 01:04:38,307 --> 01:04:40,610     the transracial placement         of Indigenous children      1317 01:04:40,676 --> 01:04:42,278   into non-Indigenous families.  1318 01:04:42,345 --> 01:04:43,779               (♪♪♪)              1319 01:04:43,846 --> 01:04:46,415         That doesn't mean               that apprehensions        1320 01:04:46,482 --> 01:04:48,517        or child protection              changed in any way.       1321 01:04:48,584 --> 01:04:49,986        It just continued.        1322 01:04:50,052 --> 01:04:51,754   And they're still continuing.  1323 01:04:51,821 --> 01:04:54,991      Only now, they just go               in foster care          1324 01:04:55,057 --> 01:04:58,261       and they become part         of that foster care economy.   1325 01:04:58,327 --> 01:05:00,096      - I want people to know     1326 01:05:00,162 --> 01:05:01,597      that it's still alive.      1327 01:05:01,664 --> 01:05:03,032       It's still happening.      1328 01:05:03,099 --> 01:05:05,935        It's trickled into             our current CFS system.     1329 01:05:06,002 --> 01:05:07,536            If you look                at the numbers of kids      1330 01:05:07,603 --> 01:05:09,505    that are in care right now          that are Aboriginal,       1331 01:05:09,572 --> 01:05:10,973       it's still happening.      1332 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,509  - It's like the system exists,  1333 01:05:13,576 --> 01:05:15,845       we just don't call it         the Sixties Scoop anymore.    1334 01:05:15,912 --> 01:05:17,413          So, nothing has                 actually changed.        1335 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,382      And I think that a lot              of the families,         1336 01:05:19,448 --> 01:05:22,184  a lot of the mothers that were   themselves in youth protection  1337 01:05:22,251 --> 01:05:23,819         now have children              in youth protection.       1338 01:05:23,886 --> 01:05:28,257   It's really systemic racism.   1339 01:05:28,324 --> 01:05:32,295     Like, it is unbelievable                how quickly           1340 01:05:32,361 --> 01:05:34,130      police, social workers,     1341 01:05:34,196 --> 01:05:35,965    anyone will pick up a child   1342 01:05:36,032 --> 01:05:38,567   and decide that their parents           aren't worthy.          1343 01:05:38,634 --> 01:05:41,704     - I know so many parents      that have had their kids taken, 1344 01:05:41,771 --> 01:05:44,774    and they have so many hoops     that they have to go through.  1345 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,342           And you know,                they end up giving up      1346 01:05:46,409 --> 01:05:47,843   because that was their life.   1347 01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:49,345   And they've tried everything.  1348 01:05:49,412 --> 01:05:50,846      They've gone to groups,     1349 01:05:50,913 --> 01:05:52,882    they've gone to treatment,    1350 01:05:52,949 --> 01:05:54,383    and it's still not enough.    1351 01:05:54,450 --> 01:05:56,786      You know, the barriers            that the workers put       1352 01:05:56,852 --> 01:05:58,955     in front of these parents       that are trying their best    1353 01:05:59,021 --> 01:06:00,489      to get their kids back,     1354 01:06:00,556 --> 01:06:01,958         it's crazy to me.        1355 01:06:02,024 --> 01:06:03,392     - In the current system,     1356 01:06:03,459 --> 01:06:05,661           which I call               the "Foster Care Scoop",     1357 01:06:05,728 --> 01:06:07,496    children are in foster care   1358 01:06:07,563 --> 01:06:11,100     and non-Indigenous people       are getting a lot of money    1359 01:06:11,167 --> 01:06:12,735   to take care of our children.  1360 01:06:12,802 --> 01:06:14,236       It's a huge economy.       1361 01:06:14,303 --> 01:06:16,706    - If you put those supports       in place for the parents     1362 01:06:16,772 --> 01:06:19,308      that are having issues          instead of paying people     1363 01:06:19,375 --> 01:06:21,444     that aren't their family           to take care of them,      1364 01:06:21,510 --> 01:06:23,312    you know, they can probably           do a lot better.         1365 01:06:23,379 --> 01:06:25,081        Put those supports               in place for them,        1366 01:06:25,147 --> 01:06:26,615   give them parenting classes,   1367 01:06:26,682 --> 01:06:28,017     help them with extra food    1368 01:06:28,084 --> 01:06:29,752          if that's where                they're struggling.       1369 01:06:29,819 --> 01:06:33,723  - So, it's an ingrained system       that we are not worthy,     1370 01:06:33,789 --> 01:06:35,658      which is why they took              our children away        1371 01:06:35,725 --> 01:06:37,259      for residential school,     1372 01:06:37,326 --> 01:06:40,129      why they're taking away       for, like, youth protection,   1373 01:06:40,196 --> 01:06:41,664   that we are not good parents.  1374 01:06:41,731 --> 01:06:43,766  And you become hypersensitive.  1375 01:06:43,833 --> 01:06:45,935     You're like: "Oh, my God,           I hope I don't have       1376 01:06:46,002 --> 01:06:47,336       my kids taken away."       1377 01:06:47,403 --> 01:06:49,405          Because I worry             about that all the time,     1378 01:06:49,472 --> 01:06:51,340        and I like to think              I'm a good parent.        1379 01:06:51,407 --> 01:06:53,376   But you get these sorts of...  1380 01:06:53,442 --> 01:06:55,911          Well, you know,                when I took, like,        1381 01:06:55,978 --> 01:06:57,913       Kistin to the dentist             when he was a baby        1382 01:06:57,980 --> 01:06:59,515        because, you know,               he had tooth decay,       1383 01:06:59,582 --> 01:07:01,851    I was sure they were going        to take my children away     1384 01:07:01,917 --> 01:07:05,354         because I wasn't,           you know, like, a good mom.   1385 01:07:05,421 --> 01:07:07,923          And I have gone               to a doctor's office       1386 01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:10,226  where the doctor says: "Oh..."  1387 01:07:10,292 --> 01:07:12,495        Like, when Mahkisis               had a diaper rash        1388 01:07:12,561 --> 01:07:15,264         and I couldn't do               anything about it.        1389 01:07:15,331 --> 01:07:16,799       She said: "Oh, well,           it's just a diaper rash,     1390 01:07:16,866 --> 01:07:19,468     so I'm not going to call         youth protection on you."    1391 01:07:20,569 --> 01:07:22,605         That's a threat.         1392 01:07:22,671 --> 01:07:25,107     It's not a frickin' joke,          but that's a threat.       1393 01:07:25,174 --> 01:07:27,043      So, I have to not react     1394 01:07:27,109 --> 01:07:29,512        because if I react,           then I'm a hostile Indian    1395 01:07:29,578 --> 01:07:31,080          and then maybe              that would give a reason     1396 01:07:31,147 --> 01:07:32,615     to call youth protection.    1397 01:07:32,681 --> 01:07:34,116     But that is our reality.     1398 01:07:34,183 --> 01:07:35,684        So, who am I to say       1399 01:07:35,751 --> 01:07:38,020  "That's really discriminatory,      I'm going to report you"?    1400 01:07:38,087 --> 01:07:39,855 I'm just going to take my child, 1401 01:07:39,922 --> 01:07:41,724      take the prescription,        walk out the door backwards,   1402 01:07:41,791 --> 01:07:44,894     smile and change doctors.    1403 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,495      But it's in the system.     1404 01:07:46,562 --> 01:07:50,766               (♪♪♪)              1405 01:07:55,871 --> 01:07:57,373     - Because of the flames.     1406 01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,609       - Yeah. So, I was thinking       about something like that. 1407 01:08:00,676 --> 01:08:04,547        - Yeah.                                        - We'll see              if it's not enough. 1408 01:08:04,613 --> 01:08:09,618  - This is a significant scene.  1409 01:08:09,685 --> 01:08:11,987        Our character Leo,        1410 01:08:12,054 --> 01:08:15,558       who feels so forlorn       1411 01:08:15,624 --> 01:08:18,694     and so angry and bereaved    1412 01:08:18,761 --> 01:08:21,130        that he does this,        1413 01:08:21,197 --> 01:08:22,665       burns his house down.      1414 01:08:22,731 --> 01:08:24,100          It's such a...          1415 01:08:24,166 --> 01:08:28,070       The episode is called          "Burning Down the House".    1416 01:08:28,137 --> 01:08:31,774        So, when the light                is exactly right,        1417 01:08:31,841 --> 01:08:36,779   then we're going to complete       the special effects work     1418 01:08:36,846 --> 01:08:39,048        that has to be done            before we light it up.      1419 01:08:39,815 --> 01:08:41,884           We put a lot                  of medicines in it        1420 01:08:41,951 --> 01:08:45,121   to just make it feel honoured  1421 01:08:45,187 --> 01:08:48,390          in this moment             that we all built together,   1422 01:08:48,457 --> 01:08:51,594       and it kind of feels               like a ceremony.         1423 01:08:53,429 --> 01:08:54,997        - As a crew member,                the house holds         1424 01:08:55,064 --> 01:08:57,099         a lot of memories                 for us as well.         1425 01:08:57,166 --> 01:08:58,834  When I walked into that house,  1426 01:08:58,901 --> 01:09:01,003       I pictured the flats            in Churchill, Manitoba,     1427 01:09:01,070 --> 01:09:03,038   where my grandparents lived,        where I used to visit.      1428 01:09:03,105 --> 01:09:04,940   The exact same architecture.   1429 01:09:05,007 --> 01:09:06,408      You know, they were...      1430 01:09:06,475 --> 01:09:07,977  What a lot of people don't give 1431 01:09:08,043 --> 01:09:09,778  Anishinaabe people credit for,  1432 01:09:09,845 --> 01:09:14,250  is that we were the first with   an open concept in a household! 1433 01:09:14,316 --> 01:09:16,185  So, that home there reminds me          exactly of that.         1434 01:09:16,252 --> 01:09:20,022 And fire is life in our culture,         as you all know.         1435 01:09:20,089 --> 01:09:21,891      Some people look at it           like in a negative way,     1436 01:09:21,957 --> 01:09:25,094 but I look at it like it's a new  beginning and things like that. 1437 01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:27,763 And it helps light another path. 1438 01:09:29,165 --> 01:09:31,534     - Rolling! We're rolling!    1439 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,236 - This is 104 dash 45, take one. 1440 01:09:34,303 --> 01:09:38,073        (indistinct words)        1441 01:09:38,140 --> 01:09:40,709        - Three, two, one!        1442 01:09:40,776 --> 01:09:44,180               (♪♪♪)              1443 01:09:44,246 --> 01:09:48,384              (fire)              1444 01:09:53,022 --> 01:09:55,558        (indistinct words)        1445 01:09:55,624 --> 01:09:57,026   I don't think he would leave   1446 01:09:57,092 --> 01:09:58,594         while it's still                 burning actively.        1447 01:09:58,661 --> 01:10:00,129           - Okay. Okay.          1448 01:10:00,196 --> 01:10:02,831              - Yeah.             1449 01:10:06,135 --> 01:10:09,004              - Can you just turn                a bit more to us? 1450 01:10:10,306 --> 01:10:12,474    - Glen, can you stay there?   1451 01:10:12,541 --> 01:10:14,610          Tayton, can you               look down and then...      1452 01:10:14,677 --> 01:10:16,312       So, look at the fire                for a few beats         1453 01:10:16,378 --> 01:10:19,181        and then look down          and then walk straight to me.  1454 01:10:19,248 --> 01:10:21,250                   And then come. 1455 01:10:21,317 --> 01:10:26,255               (♪♪♪)              1456 01:10:26,322 --> 01:10:28,190                      Okay, good. 1457 01:10:34,129 --> 01:10:39,301               (♪♪♪)              1458 01:10:42,638 --> 01:10:44,940        - All the pieces...           Look at all the pieces...    1459 01:10:45,007 --> 01:10:46,842      It's going, it's going.     1460 01:10:47,676 --> 01:10:49,078          - Look at that!         1461 01:10:49,144 --> 01:10:51,046     Oh, yeah, it's happening.    1462 01:10:53,082 --> 01:10:57,453       (Indigenous chanting)      1463 01:11:13,168 --> 01:11:16,205      - I feel very honoured             to tell this story.       1464 01:11:16,272 --> 01:11:18,474    It's a huge responsibility.   1465 01:11:20,042 --> 01:11:24,280       Yes, we make stories       for audiences, global audiences. 1466 01:11:24,346 --> 01:11:25,814     That's really important.     1467 01:11:25,881 --> 01:11:31,220      But I really make these          stories for our people.     1468 01:11:32,488 --> 01:11:36,392      So, what it means to me           is it's an offering.       1469 01:11:36,458 --> 01:11:38,761     It's an offering to heal,    1470 01:11:38,827 --> 01:11:40,262     to come together and heal    1471 01:11:40,329 --> 01:11:44,099   through witnessing something   1472 01:11:44,166 --> 01:11:48,103       and being validated,         being reminded of your worth.  1473 01:11:49,505 --> 01:11:51,307    - Everyone watching her go?   1474 01:11:51,373 --> 01:11:54,610   - Yeah. We're getting it wide      right now, but we will...    1475 01:11:54,677 --> 01:11:58,514     All of those little beats         tighter on the gimbal.      1476 01:11:58,580 --> 01:12:00,249          - Okay, great.          1477 01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:02,785       - I think most people                take family,           1478 01:12:02,851 --> 01:12:04,987       the familial circle,                 for granted.           1479 01:12:05,054 --> 01:12:06,422           And I don't.           1480 01:12:06,488 --> 01:12:08,057    It's sort of comparable to,   1481 01:12:08,123 --> 01:12:09,925        if you can imagine,       1482 01:12:09,992 --> 01:12:12,594    just being born out at sea    1483 01:12:12,661 --> 01:12:17,199     in just chaos, you know,             and uncertainty.         1484 01:12:17,266 --> 01:12:20,703      And then anytime you're        invited into a familial...    1485 01:12:20,769 --> 01:12:23,706           I'm speaking                 as an adopted person.      1486 01:12:23,772 --> 01:12:25,974     As soon as you're invited         into a familial circle,     1487 01:12:26,041 --> 01:12:28,544          it's like being                in this weird port        1488 01:12:28,610 --> 01:12:30,012         that you've never                 been to before.         1489 01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:31,480         You're a stranger               in a strange land,        1490 01:12:31,547 --> 01:12:34,483        and the only place            you feel safe is back out    1491 01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:36,618     in the chaotic sea again.    1492 01:12:36,685 --> 01:12:39,321  And now I take all that stuff.  1493 01:12:39,388 --> 01:12:40,989  I'm a frontline outreach worker 1494 01:12:41,056 --> 01:12:43,425      at Resource Assistance                 for Youth.            1495 01:12:43,492 --> 01:12:45,027          I help other...         1496 01:12:45,094 --> 01:12:47,629      I help kids that are in       the same boat that I was in.   1497 01:12:47,696 --> 01:12:50,766     - Because when you put up           a barrier to love,        1498 01:12:50,833 --> 01:12:53,402     it's really fucking hard              to get it back.         1499 01:12:53,469 --> 01:12:56,038       And sometimes people            don't ever get it back.     1500 01:12:56,105 --> 01:12:59,007      Yeah, because it's like      an imposed attachment disorder. 1501 01:12:59,074 --> 01:13:01,377        That's really what          the Sixties Scoop was about.   1502 01:13:01,443 --> 01:13:04,046    It imposed this attachment       disorder on so many of us.    1503 01:13:04,113 --> 01:13:07,182    And it wasn't until I had,       you know, as a young adult,   1504 01:13:07,249 --> 01:13:08,617  done about 10 years of therapy  1505 01:13:08,684 --> 01:13:10,285       that I actually sort             of came into my body       1506 01:13:10,352 --> 01:13:13,122    and said: "Okay! What now?"   1507 01:13:13,188 --> 01:13:14,723      And that's when I went              into social work.        1508 01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:17,092      - I'm going to feel air            like Mary Poppins.        1509 01:13:17,159 --> 01:13:18,827            I felt air.           1510 01:13:18,894 --> 01:13:21,063     - Gideon, how has it been    1511 01:13:21,130 --> 01:13:23,732        working on the set?       1512 01:13:23,799 --> 01:13:25,367              - Good.                          - Yeah?             1513 01:13:25,434 --> 01:13:27,669   What was your favourite day?   1514 01:13:27,736 --> 01:13:31,407 - Ah! The part when I was        doing under the bed.             1515 01:13:31,473 --> 01:13:32,808              - Why?              1516 01:13:32,875 --> 01:13:35,944 - I just like going under beds,  1517 01:13:36,011 --> 01:13:37,413 hiding like a monster.           1518 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:38,914     - Ha-ha! That's awesome.     1519 01:13:38,981 --> 01:13:40,949         - Gideon has lots               of fun on the set.        1520 01:13:41,016 --> 01:13:43,452              Ha-ha!              1521 01:13:43,519 --> 01:13:45,053    - And this is my last day.    1522 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,622     - You did so well today.     1523 01:13:46,688 --> 01:13:48,724 - Okay, good...                  1524 01:13:48,791 --> 01:13:51,460 Bye-bye, camera.                 Bye-bye, camera.                 1525 01:13:51,527 --> 01:13:53,128              - Bye.              1526 01:13:53,195 --> 01:13:55,264           Bye, Gideon!                        - Bye.              1527 01:13:55,330 --> 01:13:56,732     - Nice working with you.     1528 01:13:56,799 --> 01:13:58,634   - It's just really inspiring   1529 01:13:58,700 --> 01:14:01,437    to see everyone just making   1530 01:14:01,503 --> 01:14:04,406  such an amazing pathway for us  1531 01:14:04,473 --> 01:14:09,278        and just guiding us                who want to be          1532 01:14:09,344 --> 01:14:11,814         in that position              as well in the future.      1533 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,449  It's really inspiring for sure. 1534 01:14:13,515 --> 01:14:15,584            - And a young man who           needs no introduction! 1535 01:14:15,651 --> 01:14:17,453                          Gideon! 1536 01:14:17,519 --> 01:14:20,889           (acclamation)          1537 01:14:21,723 --> 01:14:23,659          - Our only job,              as near as I can tell,      1538 01:14:23,725 --> 01:14:26,094   is to look after each other,   1539 01:14:26,161 --> 01:14:28,130       take care of our kids      1540 01:14:28,197 --> 01:14:30,432  and raise them up to be strong, 1541 01:14:30,499 --> 01:14:32,034   better versions of ourselves.  1542 01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:35,103         If we can do that          for a couple of generations,   1543 01:14:35,170 --> 01:14:36,839 I swear to God, we'll get all... 1544 01:14:36,905 --> 01:14:40,175   We'll decolonize much faster          if we just do that.       1545 01:14:42,611 --> 01:14:46,782         - I think we have            a responsibility locally,    1546 01:14:46,849 --> 01:14:48,183     and not just the rhetoric    1547 01:14:48,250 --> 01:14:50,185     of "it takes a community            to raise a child".        1548 01:14:50,252 --> 01:14:52,387      I think we got to start           looking at the system      1549 01:14:52,454 --> 01:14:54,223   we have in place here locally  1550 01:14:54,289 --> 01:14:58,026         and say: what is            that system doing to change   1551 01:14:58,093 --> 01:14:59,995   the impacts of colonization?   1552 01:15:01,029 --> 01:15:03,332    - I'm happy that our nation            is taking back          1553 01:15:03,398 --> 01:15:06,235       our Child and Family                Services agency         1554 01:15:06,301 --> 01:15:08,337        and really focusing               on reunification         1555 01:15:08,403 --> 01:15:10,439          because I think               that's so important.       1556 01:15:10,506 --> 01:15:12,174    That's what we need, right,   1557 01:15:12,241 --> 01:15:13,575      to heal and be healthy      1558 01:15:13,642 --> 01:15:15,143      and to have those next              seven generations        1559 01:15:15,210 --> 01:15:16,912   in a good healthy mind frame.  1560 01:15:16,979 --> 01:15:18,680       That's what we need.       1561 01:15:18,747 --> 01:15:21,583      We need those supports       and we need that encouragement  1562 01:15:21,650 --> 01:15:26,922    and the change of people's        beliefs, their mindsets.     1563 01:15:27,990 --> 01:15:30,526       - So Child and Family             Services have been        1564 01:15:30,592 --> 01:15:33,896    a priority for Sioux Valley     for quite a number of years.   1565 01:15:33,962 --> 01:15:35,764     And like putting emphasis    1566 01:15:35,831 --> 01:15:39,668      on Dakota culture again          and language, kinship.      1567 01:15:39,735 --> 01:15:43,505         You know, putting         responsibility back on families 1568 01:15:43,572 --> 01:15:45,374    to take care of one another   1569 01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:47,843      and going back to those           traditional teachings      1570 01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:50,178      where we all looked out              for one another         1571 01:15:50,245 --> 01:15:53,849     and ensuring that we have     jurisdiction over our children  1572 01:15:53,916 --> 01:15:56,318         and not only here        1573 01:15:56,385 --> 01:15:57,786      on Sioux Valley lands,      1574 01:15:57,853 --> 01:16:01,089       but throughout Canada              through Bill C-92        1575 01:16:01,156 --> 01:16:03,058    and our own self-government              agreement.            1576 01:16:03,125 --> 01:16:07,629    - Bill C-92 is now federal       law effective January 2020.   1577 01:16:07,696 --> 01:16:10,499  And what it states in there is  1578 01:16:10,566 --> 01:16:12,801         that Governments                and social workers,       1579 01:16:12,868 --> 01:16:14,303       social work agencies       1580 01:16:14,369 --> 01:16:16,338   are compelled now to support   1581 01:16:16,405 --> 01:16:19,508   the sovereignty of Indigenous      families and communities.    1582 01:16:19,575 --> 01:16:22,377        What this means is            that they cannot advocate    1583 01:16:22,444 --> 01:16:25,314   for our children to be placed        in any other family.       1584 01:16:25,380 --> 01:16:27,783       We have jurisdiction,       they cannot take our children.  1585 01:16:27,849 --> 01:16:29,518           End of story.          1586 01:16:31,553 --> 01:16:35,624     The priority of placement      that we see in C-92, I think,  1587 01:16:35,691 --> 01:16:38,727  comes from Wayne Christian's...            the by-law.           1588 01:16:38,794 --> 01:16:41,063          He was talking                 about this in 1980.       1589 01:16:41,129 --> 01:16:42,531           It shows us.           1590 01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:45,300   This is 1983, it's now 2023.          That's a 40-year...       1591 01:16:45,367 --> 01:16:47,202      That's a 40-year battle     1592 01:16:47,269 --> 01:16:49,605        to get jurisdiction                over our kids.          1593 01:16:49,671 --> 01:16:53,475      So, everybody is doing           this massive adjusting      1594 01:16:53,542 --> 01:16:56,411    and, you know, I'm telling              people, like:          1595 01:16:56,478 --> 01:16:58,413           just assert,                   assert authority,        1596 01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:02,818        assert jurisdiction        because we never gave that up.  1597 01:17:02,884 --> 01:17:05,754    Yeah, we never gave it up.    1598 01:17:05,821 --> 01:17:08,323   So, big changes are underway.  1599 01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:10,225        Big changes, yeah.        1600 01:17:13,128 --> 01:17:16,031     - So, you're good for...                Thank you!            1601 01:17:16,098 --> 01:17:18,500       (indistinct chatter)       1602 01:17:18,567 --> 01:17:21,203     - At this moment, we are        shooting the very beginning   1603 01:17:21,269 --> 01:17:23,238            of the end                  of the entire series.      1604 01:17:23,305 --> 01:17:27,209        So, there obviously           is a lot of choreography     1605 01:17:27,275 --> 01:17:30,846   because the story takes place    over a couple of generations.  1606 01:17:30,912 --> 01:17:34,516        This moment is kind                of the epitome,         1607 01:17:34,583 --> 01:17:38,420         it's the ultimate                 returning home          1608 01:17:38,487 --> 01:17:42,357     to a place that you have          not been able to be at.     1609 01:17:42,424 --> 01:17:44,893          This moment is              the ultimate coming home.    1610 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,629   And it's a very brave thing,              to go home.           1611 01:17:47,696 --> 01:17:49,564      It's one of the bravest            things you can do.        1612 01:17:49,631 --> 01:17:54,803               (♪♪♪)              1613 01:17:56,405 --> 01:17:59,274      - When I came down here          for that one-week visit     1614 01:17:59,341 --> 01:18:01,143       and then I ultimately          went back to Pennsylvania    1615 01:18:01,209 --> 01:18:02,811     for about a month or two,    1616 01:18:02,878 --> 01:18:04,346   I just couldn't shake it off.  1617 01:18:04,413 --> 01:18:07,015       It was just something           inside of me turned on.     1618 01:18:07,082 --> 01:18:09,885      And I really do believe         that our children are...     1619 01:18:09,951 --> 01:18:13,422   And being our relationship as   Indigenous people to the land,  1620 01:18:13,488 --> 01:18:16,825          there's a GPS,              like a natural GPS system    1621 01:18:16,892 --> 01:18:18,226       that's inside of us.       1622 01:18:18,293 --> 01:18:20,962      That when I came back,              when I came home,        1623 01:18:21,029 --> 01:18:23,598         I couldn't leave           and I never left ever since.   1624 01:18:23,665 --> 01:18:27,469 I've been here for 27 years now. 1625 01:18:27,536 --> 01:18:29,905  The naturalness of coming home  1626 01:18:29,971 --> 01:18:33,475  and the first moment that I got    back from the airport here    1627 01:18:33,542 --> 01:18:36,678   and got into our family home,  1628 01:18:36,745 --> 01:18:38,914       and I walked upstairs            because I was trying       1629 01:18:38,980 --> 01:18:41,283         to hide from them             for quite a long time.      1630 01:18:41,349 --> 01:18:44,052           I was just...                   My sister's...          1631 01:18:44,119 --> 01:18:46,254       I was here by myself.      1632 01:18:46,321 --> 01:18:49,324            And I said:              "I need to take a shower."    1633 01:18:49,391 --> 01:18:50,959       And I ended up doing           like an hour and a half,     1634 01:18:51,026 --> 01:18:52,527     maybe a two-hour shower.     1635 01:18:52,594 --> 01:18:54,362   Because, like, Jesus, there's      a lot of people up there,    1636 01:18:54,429 --> 01:18:55,797  I don't even know who they are. 1637 01:18:55,864 --> 01:18:57,499          But as soon as               I walked up the stairs      1638 01:18:57,566 --> 01:18:59,401 and I saw everybody in the room,      they all looked like me     1639 01:18:59,468 --> 01:19:02,571        and it was the most          magical moment of my life.    1640 01:19:02,637 --> 01:19:07,042               (♪♪♪)              1641 01:19:11,446 --> 01:19:14,382         - It is something            that has impacted my life    1642 01:19:14,449 --> 01:19:16,351    right from the start of it.   1643 01:19:16,418 --> 01:19:18,186          And it's still                 impacting my life.        1644 01:19:18,253 --> 01:19:19,955   I struggle with my identity,   1645 01:19:20,021 --> 01:19:21,656    I struggle with my beliefs,   1646 01:19:21,723 --> 01:19:25,660    I struggle with, you know,     knowing if I'm teaching my kids 1647 01:19:25,727 --> 01:19:27,996         the right things,        1648 01:19:28,063 --> 01:19:29,397        improving my merit.       1649 01:19:29,464 --> 01:19:30,999        I feel like I have                 to walk around          1650 01:19:31,066 --> 01:19:33,568    with my treaty card pinned         to my shirt some days,      1651 01:19:33,635 --> 01:19:35,737    you know, convincing people   1652 01:19:35,804 --> 01:19:38,707           that I'm not                an outsider... "26101!"     1653 01:19:38,774 --> 01:19:43,178     But I'm happy when people      come back into the community   1654 01:19:43,245 --> 01:19:44,780    and they share their story.   1655 01:19:44,846 --> 01:19:47,215        You know, I just...        I feel that instant camaraderie 1656 01:19:47,282 --> 01:19:48,784    and that kinship with them.   1657 01:19:48,850 --> 01:19:53,088      I know that they've had          a long journey as well.     1658 01:19:55,390 --> 01:19:57,592     I connected with an elder            in the community         1659 01:19:57,659 --> 01:19:59,494  and she gave me my Indian name, 1660 01:19:59,561 --> 01:20:01,229  which was really special to me. 1661 01:20:01,296 --> 01:20:04,432    She shared some information        with me about my clan.      1662 01:20:04,499 --> 01:20:07,469        And, you know what,             it is me, that is me.      1663 01:20:07,536 --> 01:20:09,004        I am an Eagle Clan.       1664 01:20:09,070 --> 01:20:11,439 I am a Spotted Thunderbird woman       and that's who I am.       1665 01:20:11,506 --> 01:20:12,974       And I'm here to help.      1666 01:20:13,041 --> 01:20:15,811        I'm here to do good          and I'm not going anywhere.   1667 01:20:15,877 --> 01:20:17,946          And, you know,              now that I found my home,    1668 01:20:18,013 --> 01:20:19,748   I'm staying and that's that!   1669 01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:22,050        It's like... Yeah.        1670 01:20:22,117 --> 01:20:25,587      - I feel cemented here,           you know, in Montreal      1671 01:20:25,654 --> 01:20:27,989          and my children               are here in Montreal,      1672 01:20:28,056 --> 01:20:29,925       and this is our home.      1673 01:20:29,991 --> 01:20:33,395  And I don't think there should    be any sort of, like, stigma   1674 01:20:33,461 --> 01:20:37,165      or one... like, it's...     1675 01:20:37,232 --> 01:20:40,001    Some people really do want         to go back to the land      1676 01:20:40,068 --> 01:20:41,803   and be with their communities  1677 01:20:41,870 --> 01:20:44,606           and help heal              those communities, right?    1678 01:20:45,907 --> 01:20:48,677         Being brought up              in Montreal, I feel...      1679 01:20:48,743 --> 01:20:51,980      Like, I mean, honestly,       we are in Westmount right now  1680 01:20:52,047 --> 01:20:55,917   and this is where the Mohawks   used to have their ceremonies.  1681 01:20:55,984 --> 01:20:57,819    So, there's a peacefulness    1682 01:20:57,886 --> 01:20:59,855        that I always felt               when I lived here.        1683 01:20:59,921 --> 01:21:02,424      Walking around here...        I used to do a lot of walking  1684 01:21:02,490 --> 01:21:04,125       because I didn't want               to be at home.          1685 01:21:04,192 --> 01:21:05,827      I did a lot of walking        and I always felt that peace.  1686 01:21:05,894 --> 01:21:08,630      And I didn't understand        what it was until I learnt    1687 01:21:08,697 --> 01:21:12,033   that the Mohawks used to have      their trails here, right?    1688 01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:13,335              (sigh)              1689 01:21:13,401 --> 01:21:15,337        You have to create             that home for yourself      1690 01:21:15,403 --> 01:21:16,872      where you are at peace.     1691 01:21:16,938 --> 01:21:19,608        And I think that's          the sort of thing about home:  1692 01:21:19,674 --> 01:21:21,176      is that it's a peaceful               place to be.           1693 01:21:21,243 --> 01:21:22,978   It's a place you want to be.   1694 01:21:24,813 --> 01:21:27,916           - Here we go!               Background and action!      1695 01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:36,491   - So, the scene is that I am        sitting at the campfire     1696 01:21:36,558 --> 01:21:40,328       with my adoptive mom           and with my birth family,    1697 01:21:40,395 --> 01:21:43,198       like my birth brother      1698 01:21:43,265 --> 01:21:44,933   and his wife and their kids,   1699 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:49,537     and my aunt and my uncle              and my grandpa.         1700 01:21:49,604 --> 01:21:54,142   And my mom starts walking up           to the campfire.         1701 01:21:54,209 --> 01:21:57,312           And at first,            I don't realize it's my mom,   1702 01:21:57,379 --> 01:22:00,248    but just based on the look          on everybody's faces       1703 01:22:00,315 --> 01:22:02,450         and kind of like          the whispering that's going on  1704 01:22:02,517 --> 01:22:03,952        at the campfire...        1705 01:22:04,019 --> 01:22:05,453           And I get up           1706 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:06,821         and I look at her        1707 01:22:06,888 --> 01:22:09,357        and it's just like            this instant connection.     1708 01:22:09,424 --> 01:22:13,295               (♪♪♪)              1709 01:22:13,361 --> 01:22:18,233      And for me personally,         I imagined it being like...   1710 01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:23,238     the person that you love       the most in this entire world  1711 01:22:23,305 --> 01:22:24,706       is walking up to you                after you kind          1712 01:22:24,773 --> 01:22:26,241        of already accepted              that they're gone.        1713 01:22:26,308 --> 01:22:27,809      So, it's kind of as if                they're dead           1714 01:22:27,876 --> 01:22:29,244    and they come back to life.   1715 01:22:29,311 --> 01:22:33,481        For me, that moment             is what it felt like.      1716 01:22:33,548 --> 01:22:36,851               (♪♪♪)              1717 01:22:54,669 --> 01:22:57,038    - Cut! Thank you very much.   1718 01:22:59,274 --> 01:23:03,912    (indistinct conversations)    1719 01:23:03,979 --> 01:23:05,780               - Congratulations. 1720 01:23:06,715 --> 01:23:08,450                       Ah!        1721 01:23:09,918 --> 01:23:14,255      It's been so long that         the media, the television,    1722 01:23:14,322 --> 01:23:16,958        the movies, radio,                 what have you,          1723 01:23:17,025 --> 01:23:21,863       it was happening to,           it came to us as passive,    1724 01:23:21,930 --> 01:23:24,099      as a passive audience.      1725 01:23:24,165 --> 01:23:26,067   And so now we're taking over,  1726 01:23:26,134 --> 01:23:29,304   we're being able to come into        these producer roles,      1727 01:23:29,371 --> 01:23:32,707      into the writers roles,               into actors.           1728 01:23:32,774 --> 01:23:34,876         And then you see              all these young people      1729 01:23:34,943 --> 01:23:37,445   taking on a trainee position   1730 01:23:37,512 --> 01:23:40,749      or they've already been       in the business for a while.   1731 01:23:40,815 --> 01:23:45,053     That makes my heart soar,                you know.            1732 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,456          And, you know,              we have something to say.    1733 01:23:48,523 --> 01:23:50,492     We have stories to tell.     1734 01:23:50,558 --> 01:23:52,427  We've got teachings to pass on. 1735 01:23:54,095 --> 01:23:55,864     - You know, our survival,    1736 01:23:55,930 --> 01:23:59,000   our recovery isn't an attempt         to revise history,        1737 01:23:59,067 --> 01:24:02,404      it's an attempt to live     a good life in spite of history. 1738 01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:03,772               Yeah.              1739 01:24:03,838 --> 01:24:07,709        - You know, I think           it is about coming home.     1740 01:24:07,776 --> 01:24:11,212       It's about welcoming             those who were taken.      1741 01:24:11,279 --> 01:24:13,848       It's about welcoming                what was lost.          1742 01:24:13,915 --> 01:24:17,318     And it's about, you know,    1743 01:24:17,385 --> 01:24:19,421  a deep relationship with home.  1744 01:24:19,487 --> 01:24:23,324    And home to me is the land.   1745 01:24:23,391 --> 01:24:25,660        It's the language,                it's our culture,        1746 01:24:25,727 --> 01:24:27,896   it's my grandmother's laugh.   1747 01:24:27,962 --> 01:24:31,599    And I think that the story     in and of itself is about that. 1748 01:24:31,666 --> 01:24:34,702       It's about reclaiming        that relationship with home,   1749 01:24:34,769 --> 01:24:36,805     which is so many things.     1750 01:24:36,871 --> 01:24:38,206    Home is not just the land.    1751 01:24:38,273 --> 01:24:41,109    It's everything that we are             as a people.           1752 01:24:41,876 --> 01:24:45,380  - I think First Nations people      as a whole collectively,     1753 01:24:45,447 --> 01:24:47,515    we have to open a new page.   1754 01:24:47,582 --> 01:24:52,587          Sharing a story                 is very critical.        1755 01:24:52,654 --> 01:24:55,056     I felt good today. I do.     1756 01:24:55,123 --> 01:24:57,425         I feel good that           because I'm going to use this  1757 01:24:57,492 --> 01:24:59,494      to be a better herald.      1758 01:24:59,561 --> 01:25:01,796        I don't hardly cry.       1759 01:25:01,863 --> 01:25:03,765    When I thought of my mom...   1760 01:25:03,832 --> 01:25:05,567            I love her.           1761 01:25:05,633 --> 01:25:08,303  She'd be proud of my daughters. 1762 01:25:08,369 --> 01:25:09,971       She'd be proud of me.      1763 01:25:10,038 --> 01:25:12,173          She'd be proud                 of my grandchildren       1764 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:13,641  if she was sitting right here.  1765 01:25:13,708 --> 01:25:16,111     She's spiritually sitting          right here beside me,      1766 01:25:16,177 --> 01:25:17,879           I know that.           1767 01:25:18,780 --> 01:25:20,415        So, when the tears              came out of my eyes,       1768 01:25:20,482 --> 01:25:22,617  I knew this is the place to be. 1769 01:25:22,684 --> 01:25:24,652      Because you're pushing               something out.          1770 01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:27,288     You're pushing something             out of your body,        1771 01:25:27,355 --> 01:25:29,124       that negative energy.      1772 01:25:29,190 --> 01:25:34,229        And if our people,          the oyate of this community,   1773 01:25:34,295 --> 01:25:39,467  shared their story from here... 1774 01:25:40,702 --> 01:25:44,472  boy, we would all learn to sit  together and smile, shake hands. 1775 01:25:44,539 --> 01:25:49,043               (♪♪♪)              1776 01:26:18,139 --> 01:26:23,311               (♪♪♪)              196924

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