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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,430 --> 00:00:05,630 (cars driving) 2 00:00:18,672 --> 00:00:22,792 I racked my brains to try and think the last time I saw.... 3 00:00:24,072 --> 00:00:25,232 Nic alive. 4 00:00:25,272 --> 00:00:30,152 Erm, I’d just nipped up to the local shop, up the road 5 00:00:30,192 --> 00:00:31,912 (camera shutter clicks) and Nic walked round the corner 6 00:00:31,952 --> 00:00:36,312 and the next thing is she’s gone missing. 7 00:00:37,472 --> 00:00:38,592 (dramatic music) 8 00:00:44,072 --> 00:00:46,992 I think you could pretty much go up to anybody in Coventry and say, 9 00:00:47,032 --> 00:00:49,112 “Nicola Payne” and they’ll tell you what happened that day. 10 00:00:53,152 --> 00:00:57,032 MAN: It’s one of the greatest unsolved crimes in this country. 11 00:00:59,312 --> 00:01:02,072 REPORTER: Nicola Payne had left her boyfriend and baby son 12 00:01:02,112 --> 00:01:03,472 to go to her parents. 13 00:01:03,952 --> 00:01:06,072 She simply vanished into the mist. 14 00:01:06,112 --> 00:01:08,672 GARRY PAYNE: It’s just hitting home that summut serious 15 00:01:08,712 --> 00:01:10,312 has happened to my sister. 16 00:01:10,792 --> 00:01:14,592 REPORTER: A team of police officers today began a yard by yard search 17 00:01:14,632 --> 00:01:17,432 of the waste ground where Nicola was last seen. 18 00:01:17,872 --> 00:01:19,432 MALCOLM ROSS: It was the biggest search 19 00:01:19,472 --> 00:01:21,672 that West Midlands Police had ever encountered. 20 00:01:21,872 --> 00:01:25,232 Every effort it seems is being made to find Nicola Payne. 21 00:01:26,232 --> 00:01:30,352 If anybody is holding Nicola just take her somewhere, 22 00:01:30,392 --> 00:01:32,352 or to just phone anybody. 23 00:01:32,712 --> 00:01:34,272 I kept thinking, where’s my Nicola gone? 24 00:01:34,312 --> 00:01:35,712 Like, where’s me Nicola? 25 00:01:37,632 --> 00:01:41,272 MAN: What happened to Nicola could happen to any woman. 26 00:01:43,072 --> 00:01:46,392 How can an 18 year old disappear and just never be seen again? 27 00:01:46,432 --> 00:01:49,712 It’s just a never ending real life horror story. 28 00:01:49,912 --> 00:01:52,632 NIGEL PAYNE: The truth. That’s all we want is the truth. 29 00:01:53,392 --> 00:01:56,232 If it was your sister, when would you give up? 30 00:01:56,352 --> 00:01:57,592 (theme music) 31 00:02:15,512 --> 00:02:17,352 PHOTOGRAPHER: Let’s do one just by the sign, there. 32 00:02:18,992 --> 00:02:21,272 This sign? Oh, that sign. 33 00:02:21,672 --> 00:02:24,632 INTERVIEWER: It’s, er, Detective Superintendent Malcolm Ross. 34 00:02:24,672 --> 00:02:27,072 -R O double S? -Double S, yes. 35 00:02:27,232 --> 00:02:28,512 INTERVIEWER: I’m just gonna ask you a couple of questions, 36 00:02:28,552 --> 00:02:31,152 obviously about the reconstruction here. 37 00:02:31,472 --> 00:02:33,352 What’s happened - over the last six days, 38 00:02:33,712 --> 00:02:37,232 erm, and the most important thing is 39 00:02:38,832 --> 00:02:41,672 what chance of finding Nicola Payne? 40 00:02:41,712 --> 00:02:43,992 We hope that this reconstruction will jog somebody’s memory. 41 00:02:44,152 --> 00:02:45,792 That they will come forward and tell us 42 00:02:45,832 --> 00:02:47,552 if they’ve seen anything of Nicola 43 00:02:47,592 --> 00:02:51,192 either last Saturday or in the time in between. 44 00:02:51,232 --> 00:02:54,712 We want these people to come forward and help us with our enquiry. 45 00:02:55,192 --> 00:02:57,432 I’m ever hopeful of finding her, obviously, 46 00:02:57,472 --> 00:02:59,472 and I’m ever hopeful of finding her alive. 47 00:02:59,552 --> 00:03:02,512 But as time goes on, of course, the concern grows. 48 00:03:06,072 --> 00:03:07,592 (clock ticking) 49 00:03:12,872 --> 00:03:15,192 Nicky had been missing nearly a week 50 00:03:15,232 --> 00:03:17,232 and the search, of course, was still going on. 51 00:03:18,712 --> 00:03:20,232 Yesterday there were over a hundred officers 52 00:03:20,272 --> 00:03:24,312 searching waste ground and river and doing house to house enquiries. 53 00:03:24,792 --> 00:03:27,152 Today, the search has moved to other locations 54 00:03:27,192 --> 00:03:29,472 and I’m extending the search in a constructive way 55 00:03:30,472 --> 00:03:33,992 to make sure that Nicola is not lying somewhere. 56 00:03:35,072 --> 00:03:39,112 I just can’t even imagine how the Payne family 57 00:03:39,232 --> 00:03:43,272 were trying to cope with that situation. 58 00:03:43,592 --> 00:03:46,392 Everybody was just, what’s happening, what’s happened? 59 00:03:46,432 --> 00:03:47,872 Like, you know. 60 00:03:48,592 --> 00:03:49,592 I just couldn’t believe it. 61 00:03:49,632 --> 00:03:52,312 I thought, no, gotta be gotta be somewhere. 62 00:03:52,352 --> 00:03:53,832 Something’s gotta happen. 63 00:03:56,032 --> 00:03:58,792 Every time there’s a search and nothing, a search and nothing, 64 00:03:59,032 --> 00:04:01,592 you just get less and less hopeful. 65 00:04:01,672 --> 00:04:03,752 They say there’s another search and you just say to yourself, 66 00:04:03,792 --> 00:04:05,232 yeah, just another search. 67 00:04:05,872 --> 00:04:07,992 And they didn’t seem to be getting any... 68 00:04:08,752 --> 00:04:11,272 far forward very quickly with anything. 69 00:04:14,712 --> 00:04:17,512 It was still very early days and you’re just thinking, 70 00:04:17,552 --> 00:04:21,152 no, this can’t be happening or if she’s been abducted. 71 00:04:21,272 --> 00:04:24,392 You’re sort of like expecting her to turn up the next day, 72 00:04:24,912 --> 00:04:29,192 and have this miraculous excuse 73 00:04:29,232 --> 00:04:33,232 as for why she had to go somewhere or do something. 74 00:04:33,992 --> 00:04:38,112 It’s dawning on you that summut serious has happened, 75 00:04:38,632 --> 00:04:42,392 and then, when you hear about evidence 76 00:04:42,432 --> 00:04:45,272 like the car and Barwell and O’Reilly, 77 00:04:45,512 --> 00:04:48,832 the dread comes in going, oh no, no, this can’t be. 78 00:04:53,512 --> 00:04:54,592 We had the situation where 79 00:04:54,632 --> 00:05:00,072 Barwell and O’Reilly had been arrested, they’d been released, bailed, 80 00:05:00,152 --> 00:05:03,192 and enquiries into their movements were still continuing 81 00:05:03,352 --> 00:05:05,512 as best as we could with the little information 82 00:05:05,552 --> 00:05:07,112 that we knew of, about them. 83 00:05:08,592 --> 00:05:11,152 And the arrangement was that they would return to the police station 84 00:05:11,192 --> 00:05:13,592 the following week and stand on an identification parade. 85 00:05:14,072 --> 00:05:16,912 So, we had to get the witnesses together. 86 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:23,232 We knew Mr Carter’s information then, who had heard a scream, 87 00:05:23,272 --> 00:05:26,872 saw a Ford Capri, gone to the police station 88 00:05:26,912 --> 00:05:30,072 and identified the Ford Capri that was Barwell’s. 89 00:05:30,632 --> 00:05:34,632 But during the rest of the investigation more witnesses had come forward. 90 00:05:40,472 --> 00:05:43,872 Barwell lived the other side of the estate from Nicky Payne, 91 00:05:43,912 --> 00:05:45,512 near to the River Sowe. 92 00:05:45,792 --> 00:05:47,112 (dramatic music) 93 00:05:54,392 --> 00:05:56,432 There was a witness that came forward. 94 00:05:59,512 --> 00:06:02,352 Her house overlooks like a parking space. 95 00:06:02,392 --> 00:06:04,312 It’s not far from Barwell’s house. 96 00:06:07,552 --> 00:06:12,312 On the Saturday afternoon, she saw Barwell and O’Reilly 97 00:06:12,352 --> 00:06:14,912 at Barwell’s car overlooking the path 98 00:06:14,952 --> 00:06:16,192 that led down to the river. 99 00:06:16,232 --> 00:06:18,032 And the boot of the car was open, 100 00:06:18,872 --> 00:06:20,472 and she saw Barwell and O’Reilly 101 00:06:20,512 --> 00:06:24,352 taking out of the boot what she described as some sort of bin bag. 102 00:06:25,592 --> 00:06:26,472 (car boot shuts) 103 00:06:27,192 --> 00:06:29,152 She knew both Barwell and O’Reilly, 104 00:06:29,192 --> 00:06:31,352 ‘cause they’d been to her house on the Friday night. 105 00:06:31,392 --> 00:06:33,632 And on the Saturday, when she saw them here, 106 00:06:33,992 --> 00:06:37,992 it appears that they saw her looking at them from her window. 107 00:06:38,032 --> 00:06:39,392 She ducked down, 108 00:06:39,432 --> 00:06:42,992 and when she looked again they’d gone and so had the car. 109 00:06:48,072 --> 00:06:50,752 Well, the officers came back to take another statement 110 00:06:51,032 --> 00:06:53,192 and she said she’d got the story wrong. 111 00:06:53,352 --> 00:06:56,992 That it was the Tuesday that she saw them, not the Saturday. 112 00:07:00,592 --> 00:07:02,232 But she also said that Barwell 113 00:07:02,272 --> 00:07:04,192 had been round to see her in the meantime. 114 00:07:04,752 --> 00:07:07,312 I think quite possibly she could have been scared of Barwell. 115 00:07:08,032 --> 00:07:09,752 And it made her change her story. 116 00:07:09,792 --> 00:07:10,672 (high tempo music) 117 00:07:17,792 --> 00:07:21,632 There was another witness that said that on the Sunday afternoon, 118 00:07:21,832 --> 00:07:27,232 Barwell was outside his house, cleaning the Ford Capri in the rain, 119 00:07:27,632 --> 00:07:29,512 which of course raised suspicions. 120 00:07:31,872 --> 00:07:33,592 Where his car was parked, there’s a fence 121 00:07:33,632 --> 00:07:35,072 and then there was the river. 122 00:07:35,632 --> 00:07:38,952 That’s what caused the search of the river bank. 123 00:07:40,232 --> 00:07:43,352 REPORTER: Officers were brought in today to search the River Stowe 124 00:07:43,392 --> 00:07:45,272 and nearby scrubland. 125 00:07:45,312 --> 00:07:48,432 A thermal imaging camera mounted on the police helicopter 126 00:07:48,512 --> 00:07:51,072 was also used to try to find Nicola. 127 00:07:51,112 --> 00:07:54,872 And mounted police and dog handlers were involved in the search. 128 00:08:00,392 --> 00:08:03,592 MALCOLM ROSS: When the police helicopter was used to search, 129 00:08:04,312 --> 00:08:05,192 the crew reported 130 00:08:05,232 --> 00:08:07,912 that they could see something on the banks of the river, 131 00:08:07,952 --> 00:08:10,712 not far from the back of Barwell’s house. 132 00:08:15,152 --> 00:08:17,072 Well, we’re on a bridge over the River Sowe, 133 00:08:17,192 --> 00:08:20,832 which runs very close to where Nigel Barwell lived. 134 00:08:21,752 --> 00:08:24,272 That’s where he was seen washing his car that Sunday afternoon, 135 00:08:24,312 --> 00:08:25,312 in the rain. 136 00:08:25,352 --> 00:08:28,112 And the helicopter crew reported that they could see something 137 00:08:28,152 --> 00:08:29,712 on the riverbank. 138 00:08:29,752 --> 00:08:33,712 And I sent a search team down and that’s where we found the tent. 139 00:08:34,232 --> 00:08:38,472 It was an outer tent of one make, and an inner tent of another make. 140 00:08:38,792 --> 00:08:41,312 It was wet, so it was parcelled up 141 00:08:41,352 --> 00:08:43,912 and taken back to Little Park Police Station 142 00:08:43,952 --> 00:08:45,312 where it was dried out. 143 00:08:45,432 --> 00:08:48,272 And it was wrapped up and sent off as an exhibit 144 00:08:48,312 --> 00:08:50,352 to the Forensic Science Service 145 00:08:50,472 --> 00:08:54,192 to see what they could find in the tent or on the tent. 146 00:08:57,672 --> 00:08:59,272 (clock ticking) 147 00:09:04,752 --> 00:09:07,752 We asked Barwell and O’Reilly to go on an ID parade. 148 00:09:07,952 --> 00:09:10,792 We’d made the arrangements for all the other witnesses 149 00:09:10,832 --> 00:09:14,192 that assist on the identification parade to be at the police station, 150 00:09:14,272 --> 00:09:15,752 and they didn’t turn up. 151 00:09:15,792 --> 00:09:16,672 (dramatic music) 152 00:09:18,392 --> 00:09:21,632 Nigel Barwell and Thomas O’Reilly just disappeared. 153 00:09:22,592 --> 00:09:25,392 So, you know, nobody knew where they were or where they’d gone. 154 00:09:25,752 --> 00:09:29,512 We spoke to their solicitors and they’d got no idea where they were. 155 00:09:31,512 --> 00:09:34,112 If you’ve got nothing to hide, 156 00:09:34,152 --> 00:09:36,512 you’ve got no issues, you’ve got nothing to do with it, 157 00:09:36,912 --> 00:09:40,792 and surely you’d wanna help try and find somebody. 158 00:09:44,552 --> 00:09:47,352 It was hard. We wanted answers. 159 00:09:51,432 --> 00:09:53,952 We couldn’t take it any further at that stage, 160 00:09:53,992 --> 00:09:57,072 but there were other lines of enquiry that we were getting on with. 161 00:10:13,312 --> 00:10:14,912 My name’s Hazel Johnson, 162 00:10:15,032 --> 00:10:18,032 and I was formerly employed as a forensic scientist. 163 00:10:18,072 --> 00:10:22,472 The Forensic Science Service was a section of the Home Office. 164 00:10:22,712 --> 00:10:25,952 It had a number of laboratories throughout the UK 165 00:10:26,152 --> 00:10:28,992 and the police would submit any item that they wanted 166 00:10:29,032 --> 00:10:31,672 examined for forensic examination 167 00:10:31,752 --> 00:10:34,272 to their local forensic science laboratory. 168 00:10:35,192 --> 00:10:37,832 It was quite early days in Nicola’s investigation 169 00:10:37,872 --> 00:10:39,992 when a request came into the laboratory 170 00:10:40,112 --> 00:10:42,032 to have a car examined. 171 00:10:42,312 --> 00:10:44,952 Investigations involving missing people 172 00:10:44,992 --> 00:10:48,312 are the most difficult investigation that you can get involved with, 173 00:10:48,792 --> 00:10:52,312 because you’re not dealing with standard evidence 174 00:10:52,352 --> 00:10:56,072 that you would get from knowing what happened to the victim, 175 00:10:56,112 --> 00:10:57,832 knowing what happened at the scene. 176 00:10:58,112 --> 00:11:00,992 You’re dealing very much with circumstantial evidence. 177 00:11:01,072 --> 00:11:03,512 So it’s like trying to do a jigsaw puzzle 178 00:11:03,792 --> 00:11:05,552 when there’s no picture on the box. 179 00:11:08,712 --> 00:11:10,952 We started the examination of the car 180 00:11:10,992 --> 00:11:13,432 as soon as it was submitted to the laboratory. 181 00:11:13,552 --> 00:11:15,752 It was in quite an untidy condition. 182 00:11:15,792 --> 00:11:18,392 There were a number of items in the footwells. 183 00:11:18,592 --> 00:11:22,632 We recovered soil and debris from the footwells 184 00:11:22,712 --> 00:11:27,192 and hairs and fibres using tapings from the seats. 185 00:11:29,072 --> 00:11:32,192 And we searched the vehicle for the presence of blood, 186 00:11:32,232 --> 00:11:33,592 but didn’t find any. 187 00:11:35,232 --> 00:11:39,472 We knew that it had been cleaned out on that Sunday, in the rain, 188 00:11:39,552 --> 00:11:42,232 which was not gonna do my investigation much good. 189 00:11:42,272 --> 00:11:47,232 But there was an instruction leaflet found in the glovebox of the Capri. 190 00:11:47,832 --> 00:11:52,112 And that related to the inner tent found on the banks of the River Sowe. 191 00:11:54,552 --> 00:11:58,112 As far as I was concerned, that linked the inner tent 192 00:11:58,312 --> 00:12:02,552 to the instruction leaflet in Barwell’s car, therefore to Barwell. 193 00:12:06,472 --> 00:12:09,392 The tent was brought to the submissions desk. 194 00:12:09,432 --> 00:12:11,592 It was in a large brown paper sack. 195 00:12:11,752 --> 00:12:15,112 I do remember that it wasn’t properly packaged, 196 00:12:15,192 --> 00:12:18,192 so there was some discussion at the submissions desk 197 00:12:18,232 --> 00:12:21,152 about whether we should actually accept it or not. 198 00:12:22,632 --> 00:12:25,752 Any item submitted for forensic examination 199 00:12:26,032 --> 00:12:29,272 has to be sealed, because if it’s not sealed, 200 00:12:29,312 --> 00:12:31,952 there’s potential for forensic evidence to be lost, 201 00:12:32,272 --> 00:12:36,672 and equally potential for evidence to actually be introduced to that item. 202 00:12:37,632 --> 00:12:41,392 After discussion with the senior investigating officer, 203 00:12:41,432 --> 00:12:43,312 we agreed to accept the tent, 204 00:12:43,432 --> 00:12:45,872 but only to examine it for the presence of blood. 205 00:12:46,432 --> 00:12:48,672 We felt that the evidence could be compromised 206 00:12:48,712 --> 00:12:50,752 in relation to hairs and fibres. 207 00:12:52,192 --> 00:12:54,072 But again, we didn’t find any. 208 00:12:54,152 --> 00:12:55,712 That was a great disappointment, 209 00:12:55,752 --> 00:12:58,392 because I knew if you haven’t found any blood, 210 00:12:58,512 --> 00:13:00,552 you’re really no further forward. 211 00:13:02,032 --> 00:13:02,912 (high tempo music) 212 00:13:10,112 --> 00:13:11,272 (phone rings) 213 00:13:23,272 --> 00:13:26,472 MALCOLM ROSS: Calls started week two or three of the investigation. 214 00:13:27,552 --> 00:13:29,672 They were made to the Payne family, 215 00:13:29,872 --> 00:13:32,592 they were made to Coventry and Warwick Radio 216 00:13:32,952 --> 00:13:34,752 and also to the police. 217 00:13:34,792 --> 00:13:37,872 Numerous of these calls came in from the same man. 218 00:13:37,952 --> 00:13:40,712 Whenever they came in, of course officers were deployed. 219 00:13:41,312 --> 00:13:44,192 The phone calls were coming directly to the home phone number. 220 00:13:44,912 --> 00:13:46,272 MARILYN PAYNE: He didn’t even say hello. 221 00:13:46,312 --> 00:13:47,472 It was a man’s voice 222 00:13:47,512 --> 00:13:50,112 and all I heard him say was, ‘Dead or alive.' 223 00:13:50,152 --> 00:13:52,472 And straight away I panicked 224 00:13:53,272 --> 00:13:56,632 and just gave the phone quickly to my husband, 225 00:13:56,672 --> 00:14:00,232 who took over from there, because I couldn’t handle it, you know. 226 00:14:00,272 --> 00:14:02,312 And you’re prepared to talk to this man again? 227 00:14:02,512 --> 00:14:06,672 I’m prepared to talk to anybody if it’d give us some light on where Nicola is. 228 00:14:07,472 --> 00:14:08,792 (phone rings) 229 00:14:13,872 --> 00:14:17,072 The police at the time took this very seriously. 230 00:14:17,112 --> 00:14:19,872 They thought that the information was credible. 231 00:14:20,072 --> 00:14:24,112 As a result of what he has told both us and Mr and Mrs Payne, 232 00:14:24,152 --> 00:14:27,152 I’m convinced that he knows something of Nicola’s disappearance. 233 00:14:27,512 --> 00:14:30,152 Is this the best clue so far in the hunt for Nicola Payne? 234 00:14:30,192 --> 00:14:33,272 Well, it’s certainly one of the positive leads that we’ve got to follow up, 235 00:14:33,312 --> 00:14:35,192 and we need to follow this up urgently. 236 00:14:35,232 --> 00:14:37,512 Well, it was important that I traced the caller 237 00:14:37,552 --> 00:14:40,272 to see, A, if he was genuine, or B, if it was a hoax. 238 00:14:40,312 --> 00:14:42,072 My suspicion was it was a hoax, 239 00:14:42,112 --> 00:14:45,992 but I went on the basis of we need to know. 240 00:14:46,072 --> 00:14:46,952 (dramatic music) 241 00:14:51,352 --> 00:14:53,312 There’s two radio stations in Coventry. 242 00:14:53,552 --> 00:14:57,352 I went and knocked on the door of both of these radio stations in the evening, 243 00:14:57,392 --> 00:14:59,112 and to be fair they were really helpful, 244 00:14:59,152 --> 00:15:00,832 and they gave me airtime there and then. 245 00:15:01,352 --> 00:15:05,352 It was a plea to the caller to say, if what you’re saying is right, 246 00:15:05,392 --> 00:15:07,712 you must tell us because we can find Nicky. 247 00:15:08,192 --> 00:15:11,152 And the hope, of course, that he would ring again. 248 00:15:11,672 --> 00:15:12,672 And it worked. 249 00:15:13,032 --> 00:15:14,832 Me mum and dad stopped answering the phone, 250 00:15:14,872 --> 00:15:17,872 and it came down to one of us lads would answer it, 251 00:15:18,072 --> 00:15:19,392 and the police had informed us, 252 00:15:19,432 --> 00:15:22,072 “If you think it’s him, just keep talking and talking. 253 00:15:22,112 --> 00:15:24,352 Try and keep him on the phone as long as you can. 254 00:15:24,672 --> 00:15:27,712 And we were just trying to ask him questions and everything. 255 00:15:29,472 --> 00:15:30,952 MALCOLM ROSS: With the help of the telephone exchange, 256 00:15:30,992 --> 00:15:34,152 we were able to trace the call to a hotel in Stratford. 257 00:15:36,232 --> 00:15:39,152 A member of the staff at the hotel has been using the phone. 258 00:15:39,192 --> 00:15:40,472 It was Christopher Parker. 259 00:15:41,392 --> 00:15:44,072 PETER WILSON: That this man should stop playing games with your feelings. 260 00:15:44,112 --> 00:15:45,672 -If he knows nothing... -Oh yeah. Yeah. 261 00:15:45,712 --> 00:15:47,632 ...just stop it, please. Just stop it. 262 00:15:47,672 --> 00:15:49,352 MALCOLM ROSS: Parker was traced and arrested. 263 00:15:49,432 --> 00:15:53,832 He was interviewed and he admitted 18 false calls. 264 00:15:54,232 --> 00:15:58,072 He was charged and he eventually was imprisoned. 265 00:15:58,112 --> 00:16:00,672 There was no substance at all to any of his calls. 266 00:16:00,792 --> 00:16:04,512 Christopher Parker had pleaded guilty to wasting police time 267 00:16:04,672 --> 00:16:06,712 and to making nuisance calls. 268 00:16:07,232 --> 00:16:10,752 After studying medical reports, the magistrates decided to commit him 269 00:16:10,832 --> 00:16:13,232 to a psychiatric hospital near Warwick. 270 00:16:15,512 --> 00:16:22,472 They wasted a lot of police time, man hours, investigating these claims 271 00:16:22,512 --> 00:16:26,792 But he caused untold damage to that police investigation 272 00:16:26,832 --> 00:16:28,512 and to the family themselves. 273 00:16:31,112 --> 00:16:33,392 He was saying, yeah, he’d got my sister 274 00:16:33,432 --> 00:16:36,312 and he was gonna do this, he was gonna do that. 275 00:16:36,352 --> 00:16:42,032 And you know, it’s things I put out my mind 276 00:16:42,112 --> 00:16:47,072 and my one was just watching your mum having to listen to that. 277 00:16:48,192 --> 00:16:50,432 Had enough now, my mum’s going through so much, 278 00:16:50,472 --> 00:16:52,952 and you’re just making it double worse. 279 00:16:54,112 --> 00:16:58,912 So that to me was as bad as taking my sister away. 280 00:16:59,232 --> 00:17:00,352 (dramatic music) 281 00:17:13,592 --> 00:17:15,952 PETER WILSON: Nicola Payne had everything to live for. 282 00:17:16,392 --> 00:17:19,512 A loving family, a boyfriend whom she was setting up home with, 283 00:17:19,632 --> 00:17:21,072 and a baby son. 284 00:17:21,432 --> 00:17:23,832 A full incident room was now being set up. 285 00:17:24,232 --> 00:17:27,792 The same staff had been involved in the search for Barbara Finn, 286 00:17:27,832 --> 00:17:30,072 who went missing nearly two months ago. 287 00:17:30,392 --> 00:17:33,032 Barbara Finn was also the devoted mother 288 00:17:33,072 --> 00:17:34,552 of a six year old daughter. 289 00:17:34,592 --> 00:17:37,032 PAULINE FINN: I’d just like to say, Barbara, please come home. 290 00:17:37,592 --> 00:17:39,992 Roxanne’s missing you so much. 291 00:17:40,032 --> 00:17:41,792 She just wants you home. 292 00:17:42,192 --> 00:17:44,672 We love you and we want you to come back. 293 00:17:45,152 --> 00:17:48,712 But if anybody knows something, please phone the police. 294 00:17:52,192 --> 00:17:55,072 MALCOLM ROSS: Barbara Finn went missing in October 1991. 295 00:17:56,192 --> 00:17:58,832 She was last seen in the early hours of the morning, 296 00:17:58,872 --> 00:18:02,272 banging on the out door of a public house. 297 00:18:03,392 --> 00:18:06,192 And when the licensee opened the out door, 298 00:18:06,232 --> 00:18:10,272 he knew Barbara Finn, and she’d asked for some cigarettes. 299 00:18:11,352 --> 00:18:15,912 When he brought the cigarettes to her, he noticed a man standing next to her. 300 00:18:16,152 --> 00:18:17,672 He couldn’t describe the man. 301 00:18:18,432 --> 00:18:20,352 And that was the last time she was seen. 302 00:18:20,872 --> 00:18:25,392 And that investigation was ongoing, of course, when Nicky went missing. 303 00:18:25,712 --> 00:18:28,192 It’s the not knowing that’s the worst. 304 00:18:28,232 --> 00:18:30,552 We don’t know whether she’s dead or alive. 305 00:18:30,592 --> 00:18:31,912 We just don’t know. 306 00:18:33,232 --> 00:18:37,672 Naturally, I considered the two together to see if there was a link at all. 307 00:18:39,432 --> 00:18:44,232 Barbara Finn, she was older than Nicola, she was 32. 308 00:18:44,272 --> 00:18:49,512 But there were also some strange coincidences to the Nicola Payne case. 309 00:18:49,952 --> 00:18:54,592 Like Nicola, she had shoulder length brown hair, 310 00:18:54,792 --> 00:18:58,112 she also disappeared on a Saturday. 311 00:18:58,192 --> 00:19:02,352 She too had a child, who she was devoted to, 312 00:19:02,392 --> 00:19:05,312 that she wouldn’t have abandoned. 313 00:19:05,352 --> 00:19:07,272 Even down to a weird detail 314 00:19:07,312 --> 00:19:11,872 that Barbara Finn was wearing a bomber jacket, 315 00:19:12,032 --> 00:19:15,912 very similar to the jacket that Nicola Payne was wearing 316 00:19:16,152 --> 00:19:18,072 on the day that she’d disappeared. 317 00:19:18,552 --> 00:19:25,232 But there appeared to be no direct link between the two young women. 318 00:19:25,352 --> 00:19:30,792 At the same time, of course, we had the Stephanie Slater 319 00:19:31,192 --> 00:19:33,792 enquiry in Birmingham, which was linked. 320 00:19:33,832 --> 00:19:35,112 (people chattering) 321 00:19:35,152 --> 00:19:36,632 MAN: Now calm it down! 322 00:19:36,832 --> 00:19:37,992 Calm it down! 323 00:19:38,032 --> 00:19:40,232 Now be gentle, all of you. 324 00:19:41,072 --> 00:19:43,712 REPORTER: Stephanie and her parents appeared at a news conference, 325 00:19:44,032 --> 00:19:46,232 one of the biggest ever seen in Birmingham. 326 00:19:50,472 --> 00:19:51,712 Following her kidnap, 327 00:19:51,752 --> 00:19:54,992 police described Stephanie Slater as calm and collected. 328 00:19:55,072 --> 00:19:57,352 Her abductor possessed the same qualities. 329 00:19:57,392 --> 00:19:59,552 He planned the kidnap with cool precision. 330 00:19:59,792 --> 00:20:02,192 MALCOLM ROSS: Stephanie Slater was an estate agent in Birmingham, 331 00:20:02,232 --> 00:20:05,472 and she made arrangements to see a client at a house. 332 00:20:05,712 --> 00:20:08,952 She was kidnapped in the house and held. 333 00:20:09,112 --> 00:20:12,312 That was a huge story. 334 00:20:12,432 --> 00:20:15,832 And that drew on almost all of the resources 335 00:20:15,872 --> 00:20:18,272 of West Midlands Police. 336 00:20:20,072 --> 00:20:22,232 MALCOLM ROSS: We had Stephanie Slater in Birmingham, 337 00:20:22,272 --> 00:20:25,312 which was linked to the Julie Dart in West Yorkshire. 338 00:20:25,872 --> 00:20:27,152 Similar case. 339 00:20:27,792 --> 00:20:31,992 REPORTER: Julie Dart was last seen alive on the 9th of July last year, 340 00:20:32,112 --> 00:20:34,592 leaving her boyfriend’s home in Leeds. 341 00:20:34,832 --> 00:20:37,832 Ten days later, a farmer discovered her body 342 00:20:37,872 --> 00:20:40,192 in a field near Grantham in Lincolnshire. 343 00:20:40,272 --> 00:20:43,872 She’d suffered blows to the head and had been strangled. 344 00:20:43,912 --> 00:20:49,992 A ransom note to do with the Julie Dart case came up from here in Coventry. 345 00:20:50,032 --> 00:20:52,352 Another link to the city. 346 00:20:52,392 --> 00:20:55,352 REPORTER: There’s the Moseley Avenue link, with Julie Dart. 347 00:20:55,472 --> 00:20:58,192 Barbara Finn was last seen in Yardley Street, 348 00:20:58,552 --> 00:21:02,472 and 19 year old Nicola Payne disappeared near Winston Avenue. 349 00:21:02,552 --> 00:21:04,552 MALCOLM ROSS: Throughout Nicky Payne’s enquiry, 350 00:21:04,712 --> 00:21:07,792 I had Barbara Finn’s consideration all the time. 351 00:21:07,992 --> 00:21:10,672 And I was in touch with the incident room in Birmingham 352 00:21:10,712 --> 00:21:11,832 for Stephanie Slater, 353 00:21:11,872 --> 00:21:14,792 and also West Yorkshire for Julie Dart. 354 00:21:14,832 --> 00:21:18,032 All the time seeing if there was any comparable facts. 355 00:21:18,752 --> 00:21:21,832 But there was no evidence to suggest a link at all. 356 00:21:22,512 --> 00:21:26,312 I must stress that there is no connection whatsoever 357 00:21:26,512 --> 00:21:30,032 at this time between Nicola Payne’s disappearance, 358 00:21:30,272 --> 00:21:31,872 Barbara Finn’s disappearance 359 00:21:32,032 --> 00:21:33,552 and Julie Dart’s disappearance. 360 00:21:33,752 --> 00:21:37,912 It was one of the biggest investigations that I’ve seen, 361 00:21:37,952 --> 00:21:41,392 certainly in the West Midlands. 362 00:21:41,432 --> 00:21:46,472 The resources that it was given, you couldn’t doubt 363 00:21:46,512 --> 00:21:48,752 the commitment to the investigation. 364 00:21:48,832 --> 00:21:55,192 They were also working closely with the BBC Crimewatch programme. 365 00:21:58,272 --> 00:21:59,152 (clock ticking) 366 00:22:05,552 --> 00:22:08,832 JACQUI HAMES: Just before Christmas Nicola Payne vanished into thick fog 367 00:22:08,872 --> 00:22:10,352 as she walked home. 368 00:22:10,632 --> 00:22:14,192 Nicola lived with her parents and baby son in Woodend, Coventry. 369 00:22:14,352 --> 00:22:17,592 Just after midday on Saturday the 14th of December, 370 00:22:17,792 --> 00:22:21,472 Nicola left her boyfriend’s house and hasn’t been seen since. 371 00:22:21,712 --> 00:22:26,752 So I went to Crimewatch to appeal for information for Nicky. 372 00:22:27,152 --> 00:22:28,672 At the time of her disappearance, 373 00:22:28,712 --> 00:22:31,232 Nicola was wearing this tan leather jacket, 374 00:22:31,392 --> 00:22:34,672 T-shirt, bottle green trousers, and pixie boots. 375 00:22:34,712 --> 00:22:36,112 They were really good. 376 00:22:36,152 --> 00:22:38,872 Everybody in Coventry knew about Nicola. 377 00:22:39,432 --> 00:22:41,512 It was massive in Coventry. 378 00:22:41,992 --> 00:22:44,432 But now the whole country knew. 379 00:22:44,472 --> 00:22:47,912 JACQUI HAMES: If you can help solve the mystery of Nicola’s disappearance, 380 00:22:48,072 --> 00:22:49,752 please call now. 381 00:22:50,272 --> 00:22:51,992 MALCOLM ROSS: We got not many calls. 382 00:22:52,032 --> 00:22:54,752 One or two of them were for people who’d got a theory about it, 383 00:22:54,792 --> 00:22:58,472 but nothing significant. Nothing of note. 384 00:22:58,592 --> 00:23:02,432 There are very vague sightings and we’re really not very optimistic. 385 00:23:02,472 --> 00:23:04,912 But if you think you know where Nicola is, 386 00:23:04,952 --> 00:23:07,832 or can add anything to that, then please do still call us, 387 00:23:07,872 --> 00:23:09,072 or call the incident room. 388 00:23:09,312 --> 00:23:11,912 The Crimewatch appeal, yeah, I remember that pretty well. 389 00:23:11,952 --> 00:23:13,712 It becomes like public knowledge. 390 00:23:13,752 --> 00:23:18,592 Up until then people hadn’t really related me to Nicola. 391 00:23:18,632 --> 00:23:21,112 Only people that really, really knew us. 392 00:23:21,952 --> 00:23:24,032 But then all of a sudden, people are walking down the street saying, 393 00:23:24,072 --> 00:23:25,392 “Oh, you’re Nicola’s brother. 394 00:23:25,432 --> 00:23:27,392 All the best interest in the world. 395 00:23:27,432 --> 00:23:29,232 You know, they really, really wanna help. 396 00:23:29,912 --> 00:23:31,872 But it does get to you after a while. 397 00:23:32,112 --> 00:23:33,272 (gentle music) 398 00:23:41,312 --> 00:23:42,952 (clock ticking) 399 00:23:48,832 --> 00:23:51,712 We had a call from Barwell and O’Reilly’s solicitor 400 00:23:51,792 --> 00:23:56,312 to say they’re willing to stand in an ID parade immediately. 401 00:23:57,432 --> 00:24:03,072 So, we had to get the witnesses straight away, and form the ID parade. 402 00:24:06,152 --> 00:24:08,912 We got told they’d gone to France. 403 00:24:09,272 --> 00:24:12,192 No explanation why they’re in France. 404 00:24:12,432 --> 00:24:14,952 And they’d disappeared for, I think it was three months. 405 00:24:16,272 --> 00:24:19,192 MALCOLM ROSS: When they eventually come back, they turned up to the police station 406 00:24:19,232 --> 00:24:21,072 and they stood on an ID parade. 407 00:24:22,192 --> 00:24:24,832 Barwell in particular had changed his appearance. 408 00:24:24,912 --> 00:24:27,112 Grown his hair, and grown a moustache. 409 00:24:27,312 --> 00:24:29,432 His hair was a slightly different colour. 410 00:24:32,072 --> 00:24:35,912 They looked very different and so they wasn’t identified. 411 00:24:36,472 --> 00:24:40,512 But why wasn’t they asked to change back? 412 00:24:40,952 --> 00:24:44,952 You know, would they be prepared to look more like they did, 413 00:24:45,192 --> 00:24:48,352 and then see if they would go, but they didn’t have to. 414 00:24:49,072 --> 00:24:50,912 In 1991, the rules were different. 415 00:24:51,232 --> 00:24:54,232 We couldn’t then make him shave. 416 00:24:54,832 --> 00:24:56,112 The rules are different now. 417 00:24:58,072 --> 00:25:01,352 So again, we were obliged to release them. 418 00:25:02,392 --> 00:25:06,472 When these things happen the more despondent you get. 419 00:25:07,152 --> 00:25:08,952 You can’t cater for 420 00:25:08,992 --> 00:25:13,632 what something like this has an effect on the families concerned. 421 00:25:13,672 --> 00:25:15,472 Aggression or frustration. 422 00:25:15,512 --> 00:25:16,792 It’s a natural emotion. 423 00:25:20,392 --> 00:25:23,072 The last people that Nicky was with were the Cooke family, 424 00:25:23,512 --> 00:25:27,872 so it’s understandable that the Paynes, they’d all be upset. 425 00:25:30,272 --> 00:25:34,512 NIGEL PAYNE: My dad saw Nicola on Friday evening. 426 00:25:34,552 --> 00:25:36,952 17 hours later she’s gone missing. 427 00:25:37,512 --> 00:25:41,752 She was supposed to be with Jason and his family 428 00:25:41,792 --> 00:25:44,952 having a meal in on that night. 429 00:25:45,272 --> 00:25:50,032 So, I would love to know what happened within them 17 hours. 430 00:25:56,672 --> 00:25:59,072 We just kept on asking ourselves questions. 431 00:25:59,592 --> 00:26:03,392 What about this and what about that, and why this and why that? 432 00:26:03,592 --> 00:26:07,752 We just wanted answers, and the police weren’t getting them. 433 00:26:09,232 --> 00:26:11,712 I had discussions with the Cooke family. 434 00:26:11,752 --> 00:26:17,392 They got heated to a degree and, yeah, they called the police. 435 00:26:17,832 --> 00:26:22,072 I was locked up for 24 hours and told under no circumstances 436 00:26:22,112 --> 00:26:24,112 was I to go near the Cooke family. 437 00:26:24,632 --> 00:26:26,912 The police were called in just to calm things down. 438 00:26:26,952 --> 00:26:29,512 It's not unusual in those circumstances 439 00:26:29,552 --> 00:26:32,312 for emotions to run high, you know. 440 00:26:34,952 --> 00:26:39,032 Every time the police were trying a different avenue or someone else, 441 00:26:39,072 --> 00:26:42,112 they just kept saying to us, “Believe in us, trust in us. 442 00:26:42,312 --> 00:26:44,192 We’ll find it. We will sort it.” 443 00:26:44,232 --> 00:26:46,112 So you did, you just gave every faith 444 00:26:46,152 --> 00:26:48,632 that the police will find out what’s gone on. 445 00:26:52,872 --> 00:26:55,872 But your trust slowly dwindles away. 446 00:26:58,032 --> 00:27:02,072 At the time, the Cookes, they had an uncle in the police force. 447 00:27:02,952 --> 00:27:07,752 He would know what the process the police would go through 448 00:27:07,832 --> 00:27:10,272 and the questions that were probably gonna be coming towards them. 449 00:27:13,792 --> 00:27:15,992 MALCOLM ROSS: I remember speaking to PC Neill about it. 450 00:27:16,712 --> 00:27:21,472 And, to be fair, he was a good avenue into the Cooke family. 451 00:27:21,712 --> 00:27:25,992 I asked him to use his skills to try and keep a lid on the tension 452 00:27:26,032 --> 00:27:27,152 between the two families, 453 00:27:27,192 --> 00:27:28,712 because people are gonna be upset. 454 00:27:28,752 --> 00:27:31,352 But he had nothing to do with the investigation as such. 455 00:27:32,632 --> 00:27:35,352 There was a lot of distrust of police 456 00:27:35,432 --> 00:27:37,792 in the Coventry and the West Midlands and... 457 00:27:37,872 --> 00:27:42,352 They had quite a bad reputation, and you can call up no end of cases. 458 00:27:42,912 --> 00:27:48,792 PETER WILSON: West Midlands Serious Crime Squad was disbanded in August 1989. 459 00:27:48,912 --> 00:27:51,792 Reputation at the time was very poor. 460 00:27:53,192 --> 00:27:55,392 REPORTER: There have been nine cases in the past two years 461 00:27:55,432 --> 00:27:57,192 in which officers are alleged to have tampered... 462 00:27:57,232 --> 00:27:58,272 REPORTER: The day of the Birmingham Six appeal, 463 00:27:58,312 --> 00:28:01,392 and attention turned to the much criticised police evidence 464 00:28:01,432 --> 00:28:02,912 that helped convict the men. 465 00:28:02,992 --> 00:28:06,152 There had been substantial alterations to other documents 466 00:28:06,232 --> 00:28:07,552 by West Midlands officers. 467 00:28:07,592 --> 00:28:09,472 REPORTER: Thousands of police officers and the public 468 00:28:09,512 --> 00:28:11,672 would be shocked and saddened by what had happened. 469 00:28:11,712 --> 00:28:15,272 A number of officers were reprimanded, fined or reduced in rank. 470 00:28:18,192 --> 00:28:19,312 PETER WILSON: There was lots of cases 471 00:28:19,352 --> 00:28:21,952 where West Midlands Police had been involved, 472 00:28:21,992 --> 00:28:27,672 and their conduct or pressure that they’d put on witnesses had come out. 473 00:28:27,752 --> 00:28:31,752 And just speaking to ordinary police officers at the time, 474 00:28:31,992 --> 00:28:35,512 they felt that the force was besieged, 475 00:28:36,072 --> 00:28:39,952 and at times seen almost as a laughing stock. 476 00:28:42,152 --> 00:28:45,512 The reassurance that you should have from the police, 477 00:28:45,912 --> 00:28:47,872 you lose that, you lose the trust. 478 00:28:47,912 --> 00:28:50,632 But when anything like this happens, they’re the first people, 479 00:28:50,672 --> 00:28:52,512 they’re the only people you can turn to. 480 00:28:54,312 --> 00:28:58,152 (dramatic music) (clock ticking) 481 00:29:04,392 --> 00:29:06,552 REPORTER: The home video shows a first birthday party 482 00:29:06,592 --> 00:29:08,952 much the same as countless thousand others. 483 00:29:09,152 --> 00:29:12,152 The only difference that one important guest is missing. 484 00:29:12,272 --> 00:29:13,952 Owen Payne’s mother, Nicola. 485 00:29:17,832 --> 00:29:19,672 The incident room, which buzzed with activity 486 00:29:19,712 --> 00:29:22,792 when Miss Payne first disappeared is now quiet. 487 00:29:23,192 --> 00:29:26,072 Detectives have followed two thousand lines of enquiry, 488 00:29:26,152 --> 00:29:29,952 taken six hundred statements and made 700 house calls. 489 00:29:30,592 --> 00:29:32,752 We’d spent many months on this investigation, 490 00:29:32,992 --> 00:29:34,952 but I was required elsewhere. 491 00:29:35,112 --> 00:29:39,312 Before I moved, it was reviewed by a senior officer from Birmingham, 492 00:29:39,432 --> 00:29:43,392 and was quite content that everything that could have been done had been done. 493 00:29:43,632 --> 00:29:46,752 When I left it was still an active enquiry. 494 00:29:47,352 --> 00:29:51,632 NIGEL PAYNE: Malcolm, you know, I think he was honest to us. 495 00:29:51,912 --> 00:29:53,272 I had faith in him. 496 00:29:53,912 --> 00:29:57,232 There are other murders, there are other disappearances. 497 00:29:57,272 --> 00:30:00,072 We haven’t got millions of policemen, 498 00:30:01,152 --> 00:30:04,072 millions of detectives to have individual cases. 499 00:30:04,512 --> 00:30:08,632 Yeah, you’ve gotta be realistic and think, yeah okay, 500 00:30:08,672 --> 00:30:10,952 they’re gonna move on to something else. 501 00:30:10,992 --> 00:30:15,192 But you would hope somebody else would be stepping into his shoes 502 00:30:15,272 --> 00:30:17,512 and push it on again, keep it going. 503 00:30:20,792 --> 00:30:21,872 (clock ticking) 504 00:30:26,672 --> 00:30:29,272 REPORTER: 10 months after their teenage daughter disappeared, 505 00:30:29,312 --> 00:30:31,312 Nicola Payne’s parents and friends 506 00:30:31,552 --> 00:30:33,992 organised a poster campaign at the weekend, 507 00:30:34,152 --> 00:30:37,752 after a clairvoyant told them that Nicola was alive and well 508 00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:38,952 in Stoke on Trent. 509 00:30:38,992 --> 00:30:42,152 She actually feels that Nicola is somewhere in this area, 510 00:30:42,712 --> 00:30:46,392 but that she’s suffering with amnesia, and has lost her mind, 511 00:30:46,432 --> 00:30:49,432 and is trying to find herself and desperately needs help. 512 00:30:49,472 --> 00:30:53,472 It’s the first person in 10 months who’s saying they’ve seen Nicky. 513 00:30:53,552 --> 00:30:56,712 So we’ve got to follow it through for our own peace of mind. 514 00:30:56,752 --> 00:30:59,712 I’ve known Nicky for a long time and to support the family 515 00:30:59,752 --> 00:31:02,192 and give them help, you know, to look for her. 516 00:31:02,312 --> 00:31:05,352 RACHEL MOFFITT: We had all pictures on posters put out 517 00:31:05,392 --> 00:31:07,512 and we all went up in like a convoy. 518 00:31:07,592 --> 00:31:11,232 We were sort of like chasing around trying to look, but nothing. 519 00:31:12,672 --> 00:31:16,312 AMANDA EALES: All they ever wanted was to just find out where she is. 520 00:31:16,352 --> 00:31:19,992 My auntie especially has a coping mechanism, I guess, 521 00:31:20,032 --> 00:31:21,672 that she has to keep going. 522 00:31:21,712 --> 00:31:23,192 Because if you stop, 523 00:31:23,472 --> 00:31:25,712 that’s when you start to think about things. 524 00:31:27,472 --> 00:31:28,352 (dramatic music) 525 00:31:31,432 --> 00:31:32,312 (clock ticking) 526 00:31:37,912 --> 00:31:40,152 We’ve always tried our best to keep the story alive, 527 00:31:40,192 --> 00:31:41,072 get things moving, 528 00:31:41,112 --> 00:31:43,272 and we did have a good relationship with the press, 529 00:31:43,312 --> 00:31:45,152 like, you know, a lot of the media. 530 00:31:45,432 --> 00:31:47,712 REPORTER: Nicola vanished one year ago. 531 00:31:48,432 --> 00:31:51,312 Family had organised a news conference today, 532 00:31:51,352 --> 00:31:54,632 believing that this was their last chance to appeal for help. 533 00:31:54,952 --> 00:31:57,312 It’s the anniversary now of her going. 534 00:31:57,432 --> 00:32:01,912 I feel it’s the final thing and it will fade a lot in the media. 535 00:32:02,672 --> 00:32:07,712 So, I feel today’s really important and I really am banking a lot on it. 536 00:32:08,192 --> 00:32:10,632 REPORTER: Her family believe that someone in Coventry 537 00:32:10,832 --> 00:32:12,712 must know the answer to this mystery. 538 00:32:12,872 --> 00:32:16,352 I have a conscience, but perhaps there are people that don’t. 539 00:32:16,712 --> 00:32:21,792 I find it hard to believe that somebody can live with this or cover for somebody 540 00:32:22,192 --> 00:32:25,192 and not have a conscience at all, and sleep easy. 541 00:32:25,712 --> 00:32:30,272 I really liked John and Marilyn Payne. 542 00:32:30,312 --> 00:32:33,232 They were just lovely people. 543 00:32:33,872 --> 00:32:37,192 They were going through absolute hell, 544 00:32:37,792 --> 00:32:41,752 but they had a quiet dignity about them. 545 00:32:42,272 --> 00:32:44,632 They were the types of people that you just felt 546 00:32:44,672 --> 00:32:47,032 this shouldn’t be happening to them. 547 00:32:47,232 --> 00:32:50,672 Yet, they were facing what every parent dreads, 548 00:32:50,712 --> 00:32:53,352 the disappearance of a child. 549 00:32:54,312 --> 00:32:56,192 On the face of it, on the surface, 550 00:32:56,232 --> 00:33:00,712 the Payne family seemed to be coping, 551 00:33:00,872 --> 00:33:03,712 but as I found out over the years, 552 00:33:03,752 --> 00:33:08,752 really they were suffering from post-traumatic stress. 553 00:33:11,752 --> 00:33:14,392 Marilyn would talk about her feelings. 554 00:33:14,432 --> 00:33:18,352 She would share things, even with somebody like myself. 555 00:33:18,512 --> 00:33:21,992 REPORTER: The portrait over the fireplace is a constant reminder of a mystery 556 00:33:22,032 --> 00:33:25,952 that dominates their lives, and they fear the worst. 557 00:33:26,072 --> 00:33:30,272 I still firmly believe that she was murdered. I really do. 558 00:33:31,512 --> 00:33:32,992 REPORTER: Why are you so convinced? 559 00:33:33,792 --> 00:33:35,592 It’s so out of character for Nicky. 560 00:33:35,672 --> 00:33:37,992 Nicky wouldn’t just go off like that. 561 00:33:38,472 --> 00:33:39,952 It just not her. 562 00:33:40,072 --> 00:33:41,992 Marilyn thought it straight away. 563 00:33:43,232 --> 00:33:45,192 She said, “That’s it, something’s happened to her,” 564 00:33:46,392 --> 00:33:48,232 and she just had that feeling. 565 00:33:48,752 --> 00:33:51,072 Oh, I couldn’t accept it at first. 566 00:33:51,672 --> 00:33:55,072 And it took me a long time to really come to... 567 00:33:57,032 --> 00:33:59,512 realise that I’m not gonna see her again. 568 00:34:03,152 --> 00:34:08,312 John was a traditional working class guy. 569 00:34:08,592 --> 00:34:11,272 Nicola was his only daughter. 570 00:34:16,272 --> 00:34:20,432 I think he always felt a sense of guilt 571 00:34:20,472 --> 00:34:25,552 that she was walking to take some keys to him. 572 00:34:25,712 --> 00:34:29,952 I think he felt that perhaps he could have driven round. 573 00:34:32,912 --> 00:34:38,232 Year after year he ran those things through his mind, 574 00:34:38,272 --> 00:34:40,592 and I think for John particularly, 575 00:34:40,632 --> 00:34:45,432 it was something that he never really managed to cope with. 576 00:34:55,392 --> 00:34:56,272 (clock ticking) 577 00:35:01,672 --> 00:35:05,312 REPORTER: Detectives have never found any trace of Nicola or her belongings. 578 00:35:05,392 --> 00:35:08,352 A month after she disappeared, Michael Sams kidnapped 579 00:35:08,392 --> 00:35:10,632 Birmingham estate agent Stephanie Slater. 580 00:35:10,912 --> 00:35:12,512 He was convicted of this crime 581 00:35:12,552 --> 00:35:15,392 and the kidnap and murder of Julie Dart last week. 582 00:35:15,432 --> 00:35:18,232 Now, Nicola’s mother plans to write to Sams in prison 583 00:35:18,272 --> 00:35:21,432 in the hope that he can unravel the mystery of Nicola’s disappearance. 584 00:35:21,632 --> 00:35:24,632 She has no idea whether Sams is linked to her daughter’s case, 585 00:35:24,712 --> 00:35:27,632 but feels she has to follow any lead, however small. 586 00:35:27,672 --> 00:35:30,032 I think it doesn’t matter how bad anybody is, 587 00:35:32,272 --> 00:35:36,392 I will just sit and find the right words and just write a letter, 588 00:35:36,592 --> 00:35:39,112 hoping that he would just give me an answer, 589 00:35:39,232 --> 00:35:40,712 an honest answer. 590 00:35:40,832 --> 00:35:42,112 Yes or no. 591 00:35:42,552 --> 00:35:43,432 (dramatic music) 592 00:35:56,152 --> 00:36:00,032 This was a letter my mum sent to Michael Sams. 593 00:36:00,432 --> 00:36:03,832 He’d been found guilty of abduction of a young girl. 594 00:36:05,032 --> 00:36:06,832 About the time she wrote the letter, 595 00:36:06,872 --> 00:36:10,312 it was getting near to like desperation stakes. 596 00:36:10,352 --> 00:36:12,592 There was no leads, there was nothing. 597 00:36:12,672 --> 00:36:13,992 Could he help us? 598 00:36:14,192 --> 00:36:16,312 What me mum said in the letter, 599 00:36:16,392 --> 00:36:18,752 “It’s been several weeks now since your trial. 600 00:36:18,872 --> 00:36:22,712 Your nightmare began a few weeks ago, mine started 19 months ago. 601 00:36:22,832 --> 00:36:24,552 We’re still struggling, 602 00:36:24,592 --> 00:36:28,632 clutching at straws at the moment about what do we do next. 603 00:36:28,792 --> 00:36:30,472 I feel it is someone local. 604 00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:33,112 But your knowledge may help us find out 605 00:36:33,152 --> 00:36:35,272 what sort of person would take Nicky, 606 00:36:35,512 --> 00:36:36,752 and why would they take her. 607 00:36:36,792 --> 00:36:38,952 And most importantly, where could she be?” 608 00:36:40,792 --> 00:36:45,672 Trying to appeal to any sort of good inside him. 609 00:36:46,112 --> 00:36:46,992 (dramatic music) 610 00:36:48,712 --> 00:36:50,872 This is Michael Sams' reply. 611 00:36:51,032 --> 00:36:53,552 It was sent from his prison cell. 612 00:36:53,792 --> 00:36:54,912 “Many thanks for the letter.” 613 00:36:54,952 --> 00:36:59,032 He was unsure, really, of what me mum was asking him. 614 00:36:59,272 --> 00:37:03,472 He’d never been involved with anyone else in the Coventry area. 615 00:37:04,512 --> 00:37:05,632 “If I could help you, 616 00:37:05,672 --> 00:37:08,952 I would only be too pleased to help you in any way I can.” 617 00:37:09,472 --> 00:37:14,792 But no, he’s not been involved with anybody else in any criminal activities. 618 00:37:17,712 --> 00:37:19,232 It was just a dead end. 619 00:37:19,272 --> 00:37:24,352 It’s horrible to watch your mum and dad get hope and then be dashed. 620 00:37:24,472 --> 00:37:25,552 They were lost. 621 00:37:25,592 --> 00:37:27,272 They didn’t know what else to do. 622 00:37:33,712 --> 00:37:34,592 (clock ticking) 623 00:37:43,152 --> 00:37:46,392 Obviously we fear the worst, given that it’s two years now 624 00:37:46,432 --> 00:37:49,752 and nobody’s heard not a thing from Nicola. 625 00:37:50,232 --> 00:37:54,232 REPORTER: Hence her parents’ increased reward, £10,000. 626 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:57,552 Well, we’re hoping that somebody out there knows something, 627 00:37:57,752 --> 00:38:01,992 or somebody’s shielding somebody who knows what’s happened to Nicola. 628 00:38:02,712 --> 00:38:05,392 And we’re hoping the money will loosen somebody’s tongue. 629 00:38:06,432 --> 00:38:09,232 REPORTER: His grandparents enjoy sharing in the upbringing 630 00:38:09,272 --> 00:38:10,992 of Nicola’s son, Owen. 631 00:38:11,032 --> 00:38:14,072 But now relations with his father’s family have soured. 632 00:38:16,152 --> 00:38:18,152 GARRY PAYNE: The Cookes didn’t get involved at all. 633 00:38:18,312 --> 00:38:20,792 They was asked for interviews every year. 634 00:38:21,872 --> 00:38:24,512 Just give their versions, their stories. 635 00:38:24,552 --> 00:38:26,152 Never spoke to anybody. 636 00:38:26,872 --> 00:38:28,552 Very strange behaviour. 637 00:38:28,952 --> 00:38:30,712 REPORTER: Owen’s now two and a half. 638 00:38:30,752 --> 00:38:35,072 They took him on holiday this summer, but access is limited by a court order. 639 00:38:35,552 --> 00:38:37,072 GARRY PAYNE: My mum and dad 640 00:38:37,192 --> 00:38:39,552 still had a bit of a relationship with Jason, 641 00:38:39,592 --> 00:38:42,392 because they had Owen to sort out. 642 00:38:42,432 --> 00:38:45,312 They were sharing the custody of Owen. 643 00:38:45,432 --> 00:38:47,752 I didn’t have a relationship with the Cookes. 644 00:38:47,912 --> 00:38:49,512 Never have, never will. 645 00:38:50,312 --> 00:38:52,032 When my sister went missing, 646 00:38:52,832 --> 00:38:55,352 I put myself in Jason’s shoes. 647 00:38:55,632 --> 00:38:59,112 If that happened to my girlfriend, the mother of my child, 648 00:38:59,432 --> 00:39:00,552 how would I act? 649 00:39:00,592 --> 00:39:04,392 It would bring me closer to her mum and dad and her family. 650 00:39:04,752 --> 00:39:06,152 It would bring me closer. 651 00:39:07,032 --> 00:39:08,752 But he wouldn’t even come in the house. 652 00:39:08,792 --> 00:39:10,152 He wouldn’t come near. 653 00:39:10,432 --> 00:39:12,552 His brothers certainly wouldn’t come near. 654 00:39:14,112 --> 00:39:14,992 (high tempo music) 655 00:39:21,472 --> 00:39:22,392 REPORTER: Last year, 656 00:39:22,432 --> 00:39:26,152 more than four thousand women went missing in the West Midlands alone. 657 00:39:26,352 --> 00:39:29,272 But the majority do get in touch with their relatives. 658 00:39:29,872 --> 00:39:32,912 Barbara Finn and Nicola Payne are the rare cases. 659 00:39:33,152 --> 00:39:36,552 Their families admit that they’ve been left with no alternative 660 00:39:36,592 --> 00:39:39,112 but to clutch at any straw offering hope. 661 00:39:41,872 --> 00:39:45,432 REPORTER: Nella Jones, the twelfth medium to offer her services 662 00:39:45,472 --> 00:39:49,352 in the hunt for Coventry teenage mother, Nicola Payne. 663 00:39:49,592 --> 00:39:50,832 -Hello, Mrs Payne. -Hello. 664 00:39:50,872 --> 00:39:53,392 As the years went on, to try and keep it going, 665 00:39:53,432 --> 00:39:54,552 me mum and dad, 666 00:39:54,672 --> 00:39:57,552 they would just speak to anybody and everybody. 667 00:40:03,632 --> 00:40:05,872 This is more the main road, okay? 668 00:40:05,952 --> 00:40:06,992 Mm-hmm. 669 00:40:07,192 --> 00:40:09,912 And I’ve got the feeling that Nicky would have walked up here, 670 00:40:09,952 --> 00:40:11,592 and that’s as far as I can trace her. 671 00:40:12,032 --> 00:40:14,432 Marilyn was almost a spiritual person, 672 00:40:14,472 --> 00:40:18,792 so psychics, clairvoyants were getting in touch with her, 673 00:40:18,832 --> 00:40:23,352 giving her information about where Nicola might be. 674 00:40:23,632 --> 00:40:24,992 A very serious question. 675 00:40:25,032 --> 00:40:26,112 MARILYN PAYNE: Yeah. 676 00:40:27,112 --> 00:40:28,752 Where do you think Nicola is? 677 00:40:30,312 --> 00:40:31,712 I believe she’s been murdered, 678 00:40:31,752 --> 00:40:35,272 but I just can’t get her to come back to me from the other side. 679 00:40:35,792 --> 00:40:40,032 She wasn’t a fervent believer in clairvoyants or psychics, 680 00:40:40,072 --> 00:40:43,792 but she was prepared to listen to somebody who believed in 681 00:40:43,952 --> 00:40:47,192 some non-logical explanation for things. 682 00:40:47,512 --> 00:40:53,352 If somebody said, this is the year that you’re gonna find Nicola, 683 00:40:53,392 --> 00:40:55,672 she would have faith. 684 00:40:55,792 --> 00:40:59,272 She had real belief that she would find the answers, 685 00:40:59,312 --> 00:41:06,032 but with age and time, that belief seemed to naturally crumble. 686 00:41:10,112 --> 00:41:11,912 DALE PAYNE: Over the next few years, 687 00:41:11,952 --> 00:41:14,552 there wasn’t really anything major that stood out. 688 00:41:14,672 --> 00:41:17,072 We would try and give as much publicity as we can 689 00:41:17,112 --> 00:41:19,072 to keep the case going. 690 00:41:22,072 --> 00:41:24,832 REPORTER: They searched acres of wasteland in Coventry. 691 00:41:24,952 --> 00:41:29,592 Volunteers looking for anything that might help them solve a two year old mystery: 692 00:41:29,792 --> 00:41:31,352 the whereabouts of Nicola... 693 00:41:31,392 --> 00:41:32,312 REPORTER 2: The search for Nicola Payne 694 00:41:32,352 --> 00:41:35,272 began just before Christmas four years ago. 695 00:41:35,312 --> 00:41:37,632 At 18 she had everything to live for. 696 00:41:37,672 --> 00:41:40,552 REPORTER 3: Police and forensic experts moved in at dawn yesterday 697 00:41:40,592 --> 00:41:41,992 acting on a tip off. 698 00:41:42,312 --> 00:41:43,872 They found nothing. 699 00:41:45,912 --> 00:41:46,832 REPORTER 4: 10 years on, 700 00:41:46,872 --> 00:41:49,552 and Nicola’s parents have all but given up hope. 701 00:41:53,072 --> 00:41:56,752 MARILYN PAYNE: The last 10 years have not been easy at all. 702 00:41:57,352 --> 00:42:01,752 People say time heals, but I’m sorry, I feel that... 703 00:42:02,232 --> 00:42:04,432 in fact, I feel worse now 704 00:42:04,912 --> 00:42:09,592 than what I did on the first Christmas that she went. 705 00:42:12,152 --> 00:42:14,272 REPORTER: What’s happened to their daughter, Nicola, 706 00:42:14,352 --> 00:42:18,312 has haunted John and Marilyn Payne for the last 12 years. 707 00:42:20,672 --> 00:42:22,232 REPORTER: The case on Nicola Payne 708 00:42:22,272 --> 00:42:26,232 would remain open until the mystery over her disappearance was solved. 709 00:42:26,632 --> 00:42:30,352 They said that they would always investigate new lines of enquiry. 710 00:42:30,392 --> 00:42:33,312 REPORTER: An image of the teenager will feature on the side of lorries 711 00:42:33,352 --> 00:42:35,072 travelling across the UK. 712 00:42:35,112 --> 00:42:41,192 MARILYN PAYNE: I wonder what Nicola’s last hours of life was like. 713 00:42:41,552 --> 00:42:43,752 At least thinking that she’s dead, 714 00:42:45,112 --> 00:42:47,592 I know nobody else can hurt her anymore. 715 00:42:54,192 --> 00:42:55,672 (clock ticking) 716 00:43:01,672 --> 00:43:02,912 -CAMERAMAN: Stand by. -REPORTER: Okay. 717 00:43:03,112 --> 00:43:04,152 CAMERAMAN: Recording... 718 00:43:04,232 --> 00:43:06,432 In the 22 years that Nicola has been missing, 719 00:43:06,472 --> 00:43:11,832 clearly any biological or forensic evidence will have degraded significantly. 720 00:43:11,872 --> 00:43:14,152 Although the officers in charge of this investigation 721 00:43:14,192 --> 00:43:16,832 are confident that the improvements over that time, 722 00:43:16,872 --> 00:43:18,992 in search techniques and technology 723 00:43:19,112 --> 00:43:22,432 mean that they will still be able to find a body, 724 00:43:22,512 --> 00:43:25,152 if, of course, they’re looking in the right place. 725 00:43:25,192 --> 00:43:27,632 REPORTER: Okay, camera’s rolling now. So just introduce yourself for us, Sir. 726 00:43:27,672 --> 00:43:29,672 Yeah, I’m Detective Inspector Martin Slevin 727 00:43:29,712 --> 00:43:31,152 of West Midlands Police. 728 00:43:31,192 --> 00:43:33,472 REPORTER: So just talk us through initially what’s happening here, 729 00:43:33,512 --> 00:43:34,512 behind us at the moment. 730 00:43:34,552 --> 00:43:37,592 Yeah, we’re here today in relation to the Nicola Payne investigation. 731 00:43:41,112 --> 00:43:43,872 Once Martin Slevin took over, 732 00:43:43,912 --> 00:43:47,832 it was a completely fresh set of eyes. 733 00:43:47,872 --> 00:43:49,792 I can’t comment on the source of the information, 734 00:43:49,832 --> 00:43:54,512 but it’s significant enough for us to have mounted the search 735 00:43:54,552 --> 00:43:56,672 and the level of search that we’re doing today. 736 00:43:58,752 --> 00:44:02,352 There was nobody from the police actively on that case 737 00:44:02,912 --> 00:44:05,712 until Martin Slevin come along. 738 00:44:07,152 --> 00:44:10,232 And Martin Slevin and his team, 739 00:44:11,592 --> 00:44:14,712 you felt as if they really, really wanted to solve it. 740 00:44:19,512 --> 00:44:20,792 MARTIN SLEVIN: He had told the police 741 00:44:20,832 --> 00:44:24,392 that Nicola was buried in an area called Purcell Fields. 742 00:44:24,952 --> 00:44:27,272 REPORTER: After years of seeming inertia, 743 00:44:27,312 --> 00:44:29,912 momentum in the search for Nicola Payne. 744 00:44:30,912 --> 00:44:33,832 REPORTER: Police activity switched to this address. 745 00:44:34,272 --> 00:44:36,312 The intelligence began to grow and grow. 746 00:44:36,512 --> 00:44:40,232 MAN: And I think they nailed the whole case on that DNA. 747 00:44:40,272 --> 00:44:41,872 That was the make or break. 748 00:44:41,952 --> 00:44:44,592 There was no plan B. 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