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[Alice] I'm 68.

And I feel like I'm 28.

But I sit next to guys
on airplanes

and a guy has, you know,
got a grey suit on.

He's lost most of his hair
and he's sweating.

He goes,
"I'm going to be 55 next week."

And you look at this guy and go,

I'm 20 years older than you,
you know, something like that.

And you realize
that his job, his lifestyle

has nearly killed him.

The stress of his lifestyle.

What if that guy,

on the weekends,
had a rock and roll band?

I guarantee you
he'd feel a hundred times better

because he has something
to look forward to.

It would be something that he--

While he's doing
his stressful job, he's going,

"Yeah, but I got to learn
the chords to 'Gloria.'"

♪♪♪♪

[cheering]

[Julie] If you've always
wanted to be a rock star

and come on, really, who didn't?

But you listened to your parents

when they told you
to get a real job,

there may still be hope.

[Roger] John Entwistle
is the first one to tell me

about this fantasy camp.

And he said, "Would you do it?"
And I thought,

"Well, why not?" You know,
it just sound like a bit fun.

We've all secretly dreamed
of being Rock Gods,

jamming out
in front of adoring fans.

Welcome to rock and roll
fantasy camp

where you'll experience the
complete rock and roll lifestyle

without the lawsuits and STDs.

Woo! STDs!

My first thoughts were,
"All this seems kind of cheesy."

[Will] I never dreamed I would
ever actually have a food fight

with the Grand Funk Railroad.

And then an hour later,
be eating fish

that Ted Nugent caught himself.

I couldn't wrap
my head around it.

I-- I had to experience it.

You know, I was kind of worried
that it might just be like a--

-a fan thing.
-This camp rocks.

I remember thinking, what
a great opportunity to get back

and work with people
from all walks of life.

♪♪♪♪

And they're coming
here to experience

and do something they've never
done before in their lives.

The hardest I ever worked
in one day in my life.

Looking forward to another
good bashing at rock camp.

♪♪♪♪

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

♪♪♪♪

[cheering]

[engine revving]

[tires screeching]

[David] I think what's kept
the camp around so long is

these rock stars,
they get a spark.

because it's really
about the music.

-That's great.
-It's pure.

Okay.

[phone ringing]

-[Teddy] Hello.
-Teddy.

[David] It's David.

This next song features

Mr. Teddy "Zig Zag"
"Big Bag" Andreadis,

the Greek on the harmonica.

[crowd cheering]

Tony, how are you?

[Tony] I'm good, David.
How are you doing?

♪♪♪♪

[crowd cheering]

-Vinny, you there?
-[Vinny] I'm here.

♪♪♪

[crowd cheering]

Let me tell you about your band.

Um, on drums, you got--
you got Paul de la Carta.

Rob Cohen is a vocalist.
I love that Blake Meinhardt.

I've seen that kid
grow up in camp.

-[Tony] That's cool.
-Artists love to give back

because they realize that their
success is based on the fan.

You have Cammy Fisher,

who has come to the camp
previously as a drummer,

and she wants to
be a vocalist, this camp.

Can you imagine a guy like you
going from drums to vocals?

-You-- You'd get more chicks.
-[Tony laughs]

[Vinny] Well, not the way
I sing. I might lose the chicks.

[laughs]
Tony, thank you so much.

Are you excited about Vegas?

[Teddy] I'm looking
forward to it. I always--

I like working with Paul.
He's a great, great human being.

Okay, we'll be in touch.

-I'll see you in Vegas.
-[Vinny] Thank you. Bye.

Okay, bye.

[David] I grew up in Hackensack,
New Jersey, really as a child.

So I-- I attribute the success
being at a young age

and, uh, going to synagogue
with my father.

My father was a cantor and--
and I was the only kid there.

I learned to talk to people
that were older than me,

and they looked to help me out,
they were just so sweet.

You know,
I was the Cantor's son.

And it really gave me
the confidence

that I could talk to anyone.

[narrator] It is the huge resort
hotel, which is the best bet

for the city dweller
who is looking in the country

for the same amusements
he has in town,

but with fresh air
and sunshine added.

[David]
The Catskills was a place

where we went to camp
in the summer.

They were places
where people would go,

two hours outside New York

and they would
basically take a week

and go up there,
stuff their faces

and they'd go swimming,
they'd play bingo.

And then every night
there was a--

a-- a show with, uh,
a singer and a comedian.

Look at that, what he's doing?

What do you think
the boy was doing?

-Sawing a dog in half.
-It was camp for adults.

I became a waiter in
the hotels in the Catskills.

My brother's a drummer,
he had a Jewish rock band.

I wanted to be in the band.

I tried, I played
one gig on bass.

I was so bad.

My dad turned to me and he said,

"Why don't you go out
and book your brother's band

and then you can book six
other bands at the same time?"

Don't become an artist,
be an entrepreneur.

And here I was booking
comedians and singers.

When I collect the money

after the Saturday night show
on Sunday,

the owners would take off $25

because the comedian
wasn't funny

or the singer didn't do
a Yiddish song.

It got me so frustrated because
I knew the show was great.

I was there.

I'll never forget, uh,
Dr. Jay showed up to camp.

when I saw 2,000 kids
running up to Dr. Jay,

I said, "This is the business
I want to be in."

That's when I became
a sports agent.

I said, I want to represent
athletes instead.

[Narrator] David Fishof
is an agent who lists

Phil Simms, Vince Ferragamo

and Hacksaw Reynolds
amongst his clients.

Basically, I try and negotiate
the best contracts possible

and get them the most money.

[interviewer] Phil Simms,
you've just won the Super Bowl.

-What are you doing next?
-I'm gonna go to Disney World.

David, you're, uh, neither
an attorney nor a former player.

What are your qualifications?

Um, I started basically
in the entertainment business,

and I believe
professional sports is

in-- in its own way,
show business.

Getting commercials
and promotions.

I'm going to bring
this back to its knees.

♪ Oh-la-la, Sasson ♪

♪ Oh-la-la, Sasson ♪

[David] I'm sharing office space
with different music managers.

Earth, Wind and Fire's manager,

Meatloaf's manager
and record label.

Madonna's manager, Shep Gordon,

who was representing
Teddy Pendergrass at the time,

and Alice Cooper, The Ramones.

Everyone has gold records
on the wall,

and I love the creativity

about this record
they were recording.

And so I-- I started getting
bored with professional sports.

♪♪♪

♪ I'm gonna play a song ♪

A little bit of Rock and Roll ♪

[Tammy] My name is Tammy Fisher.

You are in Lanoka Harbor
in lovely New Jersey,

down the shore, as we say.

On the home front,

I have a wonderful man
that I've been married to

for quite a long time.

I'm a mom. I have two great,
beautiful daughters.

I'm very, very blessed
and very lucky.

And I think I have
a very good life.

♪ Get down on that ♪

They have a special thing,
and I've used it before,

it's kind of funny, but
it's called Monkey Butt Paste.

-And literally, yeah,
-[man laughing]

they put it down here
so it catches the sweat.

[laughing]
I was like, what is this for?

♪♪♪♪

If I'm having a really bad day,
I'm putting on bandana.

Anything to bang my head,
to scream.

It's the screaming metal,
I don't know why.

I find solace
in the screaming metal. [laughs]

-[siren hailing]
-[indistinct chattering]

[Tammy]
That takes my mind away from

the guy who fell asleep next
to me on my bus and commute.

I've had many people do that.

They fall asleep in my lap,
fall asleep,

drool on my shoulder
like disgusting things.

♪♪♪

I'm an accountant

and I work for a pretty
high profile public company.

It's a-- It's a tough job.

I'm one of the very few
female vice presidents there.

I have to make my team
feel like I know everything

and trust me, I don't.

Obviously, you are aware that,
yes, our team takes training

and development
very seriously here

to enhance your skill set
with regards to

variance reporting and analysis.

I know.
Really exciting topic, right?

-No claps? Come on.
-[all laugh]

Tough crowd.

[Alan] So how long you've been
doing this band camp?

[Tammy] Uh, let me see,
I'm in my third year

and coming up on my fifth camp.

Wow.
What's your favourite moment?

Uh, my-- my back massage
from Rob Halford.

It doesn't get
any better than that.

Nice, so do you
learn a lot with him?

Oh my God, I've learned so much.
Every single camp, I go there.

You know, you get in a room with

four other people
you don't know,

and everybody wants to play
a different song.

And half of them
I never even knew.

And it's like, the counsellor
will go, "Just wing it, do it."

And I've had to learn new songs
every single time I go.

-Must be hard.
-So it pushes me.

Yeah, it's scary.

[Alan] Would you rather
play drums or sing?

[Tammy] I don't know, the
singing is new and scary to me.

-Let's see.
-[Alan] Okay.

-[Tammy] Yeah.
-It's going to be tough.

[Tammy] Oh, New York is so rock
and roll. Everything goes.

I see a caped Batman
almost every other morning.

Running down from
Port Authority, you know?

You know what?
That's rock and roll in my bar.

Go ahead. Go for it, Batman.

[siren hailing]

♪♪♪♪

[Jerry]
Started the same way for us

as it probably is
for the rest of you guys.

You know, going over your
buddies house, smoking some pot

and jamming out
to a rush record.

You can see the fingerprints
on the-- on the "O."

You see those?

Those are the fingerprints
that were by Jeff Beck.

Those are his fingerprints.

And under the M, that's
Eric Clapton's fingerprints.

So that thing is now
worth $100,000.

♪♪♪♪

♪ I thought love was... ♪

[John] David Fishof
was a mythical character

because he was the gentleman

who had put
The Monkees back together

and had helped relaunch them
in the mid to late 1980s.

[interviewer] You don't want to
take credit for the idea?

-Yeah, that's all right.
-In all--

-In all fairness, it was--
-Go wide.

-Go wide.
-Micky, who's idea was it?

In all fairness, it was, uh,
a guy named David Fishof

who in last couple of years
has put together

a Happy Together Tour,
a nostalgic concert show

that toured around the country,
did very well.

[Gary] David very successfully
revived this tour,

kind of like thinking
outside the box.

I don't know what
prompted him to do it,

made him think that
he could be successful doing it.

[Marv] He's had all this
success, and you wonder,

how much does he really
know about what he's doing?

Somebody once described David

as a guy who took
the yarmulke to another level.

[host] Now, thanks to
MTV and syndication,

The Monkees are hot again.

Look, he's eating bananas.

Is that it?

[laughing]

[Marv] David is the only agent
that I know

who could say he represented
sports figures and a Beatle.

[Ringo] David Fisher, he came
over to London and he said, uh,

"Do you want to go on tour?"
I was like, "Let me think."

And then I said yes.

[Max] Well, I met
David Fishof in 1989

when he produced Ringo Starr

as All-Starr Band
in his first tour.

And he really did
the world a favour.

Ringo hadn't toured on his own

and now it's, uh, many,
many, many years later,

and Ringo still tours
almost every summer.

You know,
I'm not a rock and roller.

I'm the last guy that--
that's a rock and roller.

And part of being in rock and
roll, it's a lot of hanging time

I turned to Ringo
after the third show.

I remember we were
in Buffalo and I said, uh,

"I'm going to go home
and I'll see you

in Chicago in two weeks."

And he turned to me he said, uh,

"Remember you promised me
you're going to be with me?"

I said,
"Well, that was agent talk.

You know, I don't really
go on these tours."

I remember calling
my wife and saying,

Okay, I'll see you at
home in eight weeks.

"I'm going on the road
with Ringo Starr."

And out on the road, something
happened that changed my life.

We're backstage
for the fourth show of the tour,

Nils Lofgren, Clarence Clemons
comes over to me at dinner

and tell me they're quitting

because Joe Walsh and Levon Helm
are having a fight.

They want me to come
and break it up.

And I had just mortgaged
my home to finance the tour.

Yeah, we had a great time.

[laughing]

We got him good.

-Just chill out.
-You think you got it--

[Joe]
We had set him up completely.

And Levon I were
screaming at each other.

When he walked in,

I pushed Levon
and he pushed me back

and he took the beer bottle
and broke it on his road case.

so it was a broken bottle
and came over and stabbed me.

-Hey! Jesus!
-Goddammit man, cut it out.

-Come on.
-You got a show now.

[Joe]
I had fake blood.

I started bleeding profusely
and David was just...

Now wait a minute.
Wait, wait, wait.

Come on, man. Come on.

Get out of here.

[David] I walked away
and I said to myself,

"Wow, these guys are nuts."

But I realized how much
fun these guys have.

Documented.

And that's how I came up with
idea of rock roll fantasy camp.

What if I could give this
to people, to a fan to enjoy

and see what it's like
to be with all these rock stars?

[Rudy] I completely understand
why anybody

who's never been to
a rock and roll fantasy camp

would be apprehensive
about coming because I was.

But I walk into the room

and I'm going like,
"Wow, this sounds awful,

but look at the fun
they're having."

And behind every young camper,
there's always

incredibly supportive family.

[Blake]
All right.

[Bill]
What key is this song in, Blake?

[Blake] It's, um,

like it's in E.

[Bill] Great.

[Bill] Music.

It has definitely strengthened
my and his relationship.

If we're in the car,
we're driving somewhere,

I'll ask him a question

and say, "Blake,
who produced this album?"

And then he'll spit it out.

-[Bill] What key is this in?
-[Blake] It's in E.

-It's in E?
-Yeah.

[Bill] He knows
who the producer is.

He knows where it was
produced at, at what studio.

This one sounds like it's in A.

[Bill] He even knows songs
down to the writing credits of,

you know, who actually
wrote the song.

There'll be some obscure,

it will be like a Zappa song
or something will come up

I'm like "He don't know Frank
Zappa," and he'll just be...

[snaps finger]

Wow. It's Slash.

[Bill] Blake, at a very
young age between,

I'd say, three or four,
he was diagnosed with autism.

-Is it?
-Blake got a Alice Cooper doll.

[Bill] As a parent to hear
those words it's like,

"Yo...

what did we do wrong?

Blake would not communicate.

He didn't really start
talking until age five.

I mean,
he wouldn't say anything.

-[Blake's mom] Find it Blake.
-Come on.

[Bill] You look for something
to make your child happy.

I mean, I played guitar, and
Blake would sit on the couch.

I would sit there,
and I'd start strumming chords.

It got to a point
where at age ten, he said,

I want to start
taking guitar lessons.

Told my wife, I said,

we'll bring him out to
Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.

You know what better way?
Baptism by fire.

Throw him out there
and just, you know,

I mean, I won't put him
in harm's way or anything,

I said, let's just try
and see what he'll do.

♪♪♪

[Blake] For starter, uh,
boys are back in town

and, uh,
I just want to jam, man.

[Bill] The transformation
has been unbelievable.

He lives and breathes music,
there's nothing more important.

Like that just-- It's his world.

And he's a hard worker.

So that passion
clicked in his head

and that's why we're here.

He's a happy kid.

You can't ask for anything more.

[Alice] When I went
to the fantasy camp,

it was interesting to me,
the age group.

You would have a 15 year old
kid playing drums

and a 45 year old
dentist on guitar.

That's one of the things
you have to get past

when you sing with these guys.

You look around the band,
you go,

"Wow, if this band
were a real band,

it would be the weirdest
band ever, but cool."

We're talking about
rock and roll fantasy camp

and it's rocking and rolling.

[Mark] I did my first camp
in Florida, um, on the beach.

[news anchor]
All at the Eden Rock Hotel,

at a five day, four night,

first time ever
rock and roll fantasy camp.

Dreamed up by a promoter
when he was touring with

some guy named Ringo Starr.

♪♪♪♪

[David] The biggest thing
in our business is

everyone's scared to be
labelled as hip, as not hip.

I-- I never believe not to do
anything because it's not hip.

You do something because
it's good, it's entertaining,

and if you have an idea,
you make it happen.

That the greatest people can
be intrigued by rock and roll.

Here's an opportunity
for everybody

to get a chance to get involved.

[Frank] When I saw
the names on the list,

when I first saw it,
I was like,

"All these guys are be in
the same place at one time?"

These fans, and they are
going to say to their friends,

You dipstick, you should
have been there, I told you.

You just want to put
this finger on that note.

There's this genuine respect
and love for the music

that we did in those days.

[David]
All the press came out.

About a week later,
I'm watching The Tonight Show,

and there's Jay Leno
and he's doing his monologue.

He said, Jerry,
hear about this rock and roll

fantasy camp they have?

He said, "For $5,000,

you can jam with a bunch
of B rock and roll stars."

He said, "For $5,500,

you could check yourself
in the Betty Ford Clinic

and jam with a bunch
of A rock and roll stars."

We got a lot of press,
a lot of media,

and we signed up
about 15, 20 people.

It was such a dreadful
experience financially.

You know,
I chalked it up to,

"Okay, I have five great
ideas in a row,

never going to do it again."

And that's what life is
as a promoter.

You know, you take your chances.

Articles were coming out in--
in Entertainment Weekly

and you were reading about this.

One day I got a phone call
from Citibank.

They wanted to do a commercial.

[people chattering]

[woman] Sam begged and pleaded,
so I sent him to camp.

We'd earned lots of points with
our new Citi Thank You Card.

He even hangs out
with the camp director.

Just like that.

[David] Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp kind of

just showed up in pop culture.

Bones did an episode.

Yeah!

[Rick] Gift certificate
to Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.

Now, what's that?

You're going to be singing
with Roger Daltrey from the Who.

♪ People try to put us down ♪

[Rick]
I sang with Roger Daltrey.

Good job.

[Rick]
I can now die. [laughs]

[David] Ellen did it
for a comedy show.

I'm talking about having fun.
I've got a bad song in my head.

And with your help,
I think we can perform it

very poorly in front
of people who will pretend

just as poorly to enjoy it,

because that's what rock and
roll fantasy camp is all about.

-My root beer, Hash.
-[laughing]

Simpsonswas amazing for us.

Hello, campers.

One day I was driving
to work at The Simpsons

and I'm listening
to the Howard Stern Show,

and he was promoting this thing

called Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp.

Entertainment Weekly
has listed it

as one of the top 25 episodes.

-Paparazzi to the left.
-I got them.

[grunts]

[Joe] The whole thing
about the rock camp

is that I end up
learning new things.

I mean, a lot of really good
players come through, you know,

and, uh, rubbing elbows
with everybody

it's fun on this journey.

-[waitress] Ready to order?
-[Pistol] I-- I am.

-How about the mushroom burger?
-All right.

[Pistol]
They call me Pistol

because when I was younger,
I listened to a Motown album

and I'm like, this is--
this sounds great.

And keep in mind,
I'm in the fifth grade

and I'm reading the liner notes
and it says,

Richard "Pistol" Allen on drums.

And I'm like,
that's who I want to play like,

Richard Pistol Allen.

Mind you,
knew nothing about drums.

I just knew I like that man.

[moans]

♪♪♪♪

Fries are freshly cut.

Oh, and the ketchup, fresh.

Right off the vine.

There's a book that I recall,
The Healing Drum.

It goes back into Africa
and it talks about

when children are born
into the tribes themselves,

they are raised to be
master drummers in the tribes.

All the communication is--
is done through drums

because that is the heartbeat
of what we do.

We walk in rhythm,
we talk in rhythm,

we blink our eyes in rhythm.

Everything that we do, uh,
is surrounded by rhythm.

The drummers responsibility
in the-- in the band is--

is essential.

That's my rhythm.

See? That's that
constant heartbeat.

My job is to lock it in and stay
there and give them something

that they can move to
because they feel the rhythm.

[car door opens]

[Pistol] When I was younger,
I went to church with my dad

because he was the most
important person in my life.

-Morning, Fong. How are you?
-Hi.

[Pistol] I think it's important
for us to have

something or someone
that we believe in.

Thank you. Bye-bye now.

See you next week.

[car door closes]

There's been so many
opportunities for me

to be around people that
did drugs, that were in gangs.

And I grew up in
the heart of that in L.A.

A lot of my friends,
they became gang members.

Uh, they got involved in drugs.

And those are things that
I just wasn't interested in.

Partly so because I saw
my brothers and sisters fall

victim to that stuff and
I saw how much it hurt my dad.

And-- And I really think
it sent him to an early grave.

So I, again, I probably still
need to work through it.

But I have a lot of
resentment towards them

because they deprived me

of the love
and growing up with a father.

The God had his hand

in seeing that I didn't
fall victim to that.

So somehow
he put drums in my life.

♪♪♪♪

I really think that
if it wasn't for music,

I wouldn't be here today

or I don't know
what I would be doing.

Music has gotten me
through a lot of things.

It's my foundation.

You can take anything
else away from me,

but don't take
this away from me.

You know, I have to have this.

[Teddy] I love it because I
always make sure as a counsellor

that my band,
whether we're good or not,

is that
they're having a good time.

You know, you look
at what your band is

and you go,
"Okay, this person can play.

This person can kind of play,

this person can sing
but kind of can't play."

[David] Uh, guy's number one
rule of camp is

inmates don't run
the asylum, right?

So you guys, when you take your
fans, you take control of them,

and in the end,
they will thank us.

-And, right, Teddy?
-Absolutely.

You make it work.

You know, like, there's no--
there's no I in band.

♪♪♪♪

[Scott]
Some of this goes way back.

First concert ever is
up here somewhere.

Iron Maiden, March 9th. 1985.

This is a memory
that I will never forget.

I would have been
13 or 12 at the time.

I remember my parents
who are just-- they're very

straight-laced and
very conservative parents,

wonderful parents, by the way.

But they really didn't want me
to go to heavy metal concerts.

They made sure that one of my
friends' parents went with us.

So we go to
this Iron Maiden concert

and, uh, I remember, you know,
kind of like rocking out.

But then I remember
looking back and seeing,

you know, my friend's mom
is just like taking a joint

from one of the other people

who is in the audience
and is like smoking out.

And I'm just like, really?
This is-- this is our chaperone?

Uh, so mom, that's true story.

The coolest is this poster here,

which is me on stage
with Judas Priest.

This is modelled after
a poster that was in my room

back in the day,
and I had to fight really hard

to be able to put
heavy metal posters on my walls.

Judas Priest finally
made it up there.

[incomprehensible lyrics]

[Scott] It's a total dream
of mine come true.

But my mom's in the crowd,

like, watching,
cheering, so excited,

and just to see that moment and
think, wow, how life changes.

My son comes home from school,

and the first thing
he wants to do is,

"Okay, Dad,
I really wanna get a snack,

but let's jam that song first."

I'll stop anything I'm doing.

This is a shy kid.

He's only 14.

[words on screen]

Boy!

You know,
this metal mad man inside

is just a beautiful thing.

That's the neat thing
about fantasy camp.

He got so good, so fast
with such little input.

[cheers & applause]

When you play with someone
who's great at something,

like, they are unconsciously
excellent at it.

It is a different experience.

Try yourself.

It's a very special thing.

I know it sounds
a little cheesy that

like, "Oh, it's just
a rock and roll thing,"

but man, for me
and for him, it's real.

♪♪♪♪

[laughs]

-Yeah.
-All right. Rock and roll.

[Richie] It took me back
to our first starting--

In the early band's--

I'm talking way, way, way back.

It's music in his most
honest, uh, format.

It's a-- It's a weird thing.

I'm getting chills
thinking about it.

That feeling you get when
something clicks in the room,

that sort of magic,
that's why we all do it.

This is the man!

-Rock and Roll!
-Oh, I think I did--

Does Gene Simmons...

[Gene] Fishof is a really, uh,
interesting character.

He could be a character
in a recurring role

in The Goldbergs.

[Lita] He's-- He's just crazy.
He's out of his mind.

You know?
And I love that about him.

[Alice] David, I thought,
should be in a mental hospital

at some point, you know?

Or he has escaped
from a mental hospital.

[David] But I called up
Roger and I said,

"Who would you like to jam with?

If you had an opportunity
to meet your hero?

Who would you want to jam with?"

He says,
"Levon Helm of The Band."

He said, "I've always wanted
to meet Levon Helm.

If you introduce me Levon Helm,
I'll do your camp."

And we had formed a bond
because of the Ringo tour.

So when I asked
him for something,

he said, "Of course,
I'll do it." And he came.

Wow!

♪♪♪

What's happening?

[all laugh]

[David] After he got to meet
Levon Helm the next day,

he said, "Where
are these bands playing?"

I said, "Well, tomorrow night,

they're playing
at The Bottom Line."

Roger Daltrey!

[cheers & applause]

Okay, let me tune to this.

But where's your singer?

-You're standing right there.
-You're standing right there.

Let me tell you, these guys, uh,

I'll be down at the rehearsal
and watched all the bands,

and, uh, it's just great
to see people

gaining a lot of knowledge
about our business

that has been incredible
to me in my life.

And let's just hope that, uh,

in some small way,
it can be incredible

to you for a weekend.
Off you go, guys.

[David] Once Roger started
doing it, all of a sudden

it opened up the door

and Roger said, "I can
introduce you to Brian Wilson."

[indistinct chatter]

[David] Roger would always
call me before every camp,

even though he wasn't
going to be at the camp.

And he was always concerned that

the rock star
was having a good time,

will Brian Wilson like it?

And the fact that he was
showing interest meant that,

you know,
that there's something here.

[Roger] It's kind of like
on Barnum and Bailey's side.

Uh, and--
and because it is a circus

which Jagger recognized
all those years ago.

In '69, rock and roll is a
circus, David recognized that.

And he started to just
come up with ideas

that keep the spirit
of it alive.

and we got to give him
applause for it.

♪ Man, I can't explain ♪

♪♪♪

-There Mr. Fishof.
-Come on, bring them here.

What do we got here?
Rock stars?

You know Paul Stanley
is not coming.

Uh, goodbye. No.
[all laugh]

No, we got-- we-- we-- we got--
we got Gene Simmons'--

David, I came to see you.

-[David] That's an honest guys.
-It's the only reason I'm here.

-You excited?
-Awesome. I'm very excited.

I'm always excited.
It's great to see you.

It's gonna be great.

-Good to see you.
-Good to see you.

It's gonna be exiting.
Glad you came.

Hello, David Fishof.

[Scott] As soon as
you walk in the door,

you get your welcome back.

you get into a room
with a group of people

who feel exactly like you do,
and you all know you do,

and that just breaks
the ice right away.

And then, you know, maybe
Bruce Kulick will walk through

the hallway or something
and you'll say,

"Hey, what's up, dude?"

And you all look
at each other and be pinching--

You know, and
you share that experience

so quickly with the group
that you're with.

You see, everybody gets excited
about coming to camp early.

You guys say hello
of Steven Adler?

-Yeah.
-Yeah.

[Sammy] So you all know
Mr. David Fishof.

This guy is the creator
of Fantasy Camp,

which is one
of the coolest things.

One guitar player was shredding
like a mother and I'm thinking,

"What are you?"
He goes, "I'm a doctor."

I'm going, Wow.

[Ed] You have, uh, some kids
who come here, you know,

their parents buy them the camp.

They're, you know,
lawyers and doctors

and business people like myself.

Some people, they saved up
for this camp.

This is a once
in a lifetime experience.

I am a Director of Compliance

for a Medicare health plan
back in Portland.

I was a partner in a copy
machine business,

I'm a chiropractor now
of almost 20 years.

Just finished my 30th year

teaching junior high
and high school choral music.

I was an executive, pretty
senior executive at Motorola.

I've been married
almost 20 years.

We've got, uh, four kids.

I work for the railroad.

I'm a conductor.

So I haven't been
on a regular vacation

since we always come here.

Yeah.

[Rey] People often would say,
"Tell me about yourself."

I tell them, "What I do is
I'm an executive at Motorola.

I am a rock guitarist."

[Vinny]
Hello, everybody.

Welcome to Alcoholics Anonymous.

I mean, oh, I'm sorry,
this Rock Fantasy Camp.

-You guys having fun so far?
-[crowd] Yeah!

Please welcome...

Gene Simmons.

[cheers & applause]

Hey. Wow, everybody, welcome
to Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.

This is our 23rd year.

23 years.

[cheers & applause]

And if you see a group of stars
over in-- Walking around

and you have a question
about bass,

ask Rudy, ask-- If you--

if-- if you want to ask
a question about sex, ask Vinny.

-Okay?
-[cheers & applause]

Okay.

Go to your rooms. We're gonna
start jamming right away.

Good luck, everybody.
God bless you.

Here's opening day at Rock Camp.
Are you ready to rock?

[David]
Your mission at camp.

Number one,
you got to prepare two sets.

I don't care
if you do identical sets.

It's about helping each other,

coming together as a unit
to be the best band possible.

[Vinny]
And-- And the best band here--

the best band wins
absolutely nothing.

-Nothing, nothing.
-[all laugh]

I can do that. I can do that.

-Yeah.
-I tell you where he is.

So it's always a distressing
moment when I meet my band,

my camp band for the first time.

♪♪♪♪

-Wow, you guys sound great.
-Thanks.

-I'm Tony.
-Hi, Quinn.

Quinn? Hey, Quinn.

Nice to meet you.

You must be Blake then.

-Yes.
-Okay.

-You must be Tony.
-I am Tony.

At least the last time
I checked.

-[laughs]
-Uh.

Well, it's nice
that you guys know it,

wow, I'm quite impressed and
a little intimidated actually.

Oh, you know what
I forgot to tell everybody?

To come up with
the name of the band.

Let's see, I had
the Daughters of Danger.

Oh, big fan of
the Horse Chestnuts.

Stack of Yokels
is my favourite band name.

-On the top three.
-[all] One, two, three.

[all] Motley Jue.

[all] Oy.

-Vey.
-Yeah. [laughs]

Ladies and gentlemen,
Jurassic Waist Band.

-What was the name you picked?
-Which one?

-The F one.
-Fustagates.

[all] Fustagate.

-What?
-I told you how would--

None of us know
what the hell it means.

-Oh, the name?
-You hear Fustagate, you go...

-What's that word?
-Fustagate.

-Yeah, I've never heard.
-It means to beat with a club.

-Oh, nice.
-How about Menopause?

Can we just throw
that out there? Menopause?

Men 'O' Pause. [laughs]

See? That was my name.
There you go.

-And you're for it?
-[Tammy] I think it's funny.

-I think it's great.
-You're all right with that?

[Tammy] I'm okay with that.
I think it's funny.

Okay, the name of the band is...

We gotta come up with
a new band name that's like,

you know, naming your son again.
You know what I mean? It's--

But that-- that STP sticker
was a really cool

logo that we had on a bicycle
seats or on a skateboard,

so we're thinking like,
Stinky Toilet Paper.

Sherley Towels.

[laughing]

What are we going
to come up with?

And, you know,
the Stone Temple Pilots

seemed to be
the most accurate one.

[indistinct chatter]

[Pistol laughing]

Yeah, no one told me
metal guys was silly.

I love it, though, may I say?

[laughs] I'm glad you're taking
the positive out of that.

[all laughing]

All right. "Mississippi Queen."

[laughing]

♪♪♪

-[chime ringing]
-[man] Hey, Pistol.

What's going on?

-Good to see you.
-Good to see you, man.

-Thanks for coming.
-My pleasure.

[man]
So Super Kick Ten, let's...

-Uh, what sizes?
-14.

[Pistol] Lenny Kravitz and I,
we-- we hooked up by accident

when we were in high school,
we played together

for about three or four years.

Actually, I was supposed to be
on the Let Love Rule album,

but I decided to take a gig
in Edinburgh, Scotland.

And by the time I came back,
the album was all done by Lenny.

You know?
So I missed that boat.

♪♪♪

-I like it
-Well, awesome.

I'll take everything.
Wrap it up.

Thanks buddy.
Always good seeing you.

[Pistol]
All right, ladies, let's go.

I wanna show you something.

Alright. Fall in-- Fall in line.
Come on, fall in line.

I want to show you guys
how it all begin with me

in terms of learning
to play drums.

My very first, uh, teacher
was Willie T. Brooks.

I owe everything to him.
He was the beginning of it all.

Then I met Albert "Tootie" Heath
of the Heath Brothers.

I walk up to this fence
and I look over

and I see this drummer playing,
and he says,

"Who the hell is that on my
fence? Get your ass off of it."

I'm like, "Oh!"
He scared me, right?

And he says, "Just kidding."
Said, "Come on in."

And it was Tootie.

And he was actually
rehearsing with a singer

named Nancy Wilson,
who's a great jazz singer.

So from that point forward, he
became instrumental in my life.

And he doesn't call me anything
but Pistol, Pistol, Pistol.

That's it. Pistol's the name.

And this is, uh, Teena Marie.

And these are some guys
that I played with.

And oddly enough,
in this picture

should have been Lenny Kravitz.

And I think Lenny
was standing to the side.

As a matter of fact,
he called me.

I went down to Santa Monica,
listened to the tracks,

and I'm like, "Yeah, sounds
alright. Yeah, whatever, Lenny."

He invited me to the concert.

We went and I just watched
my career disappear.

No, I'm kidding.

[laughing]

No, I'm kidding.

I mean, it's--
It is what it is, you know?

[Paul]
All right. I got an idea.

I'm going to do this.
I'm going this and then...

-Just give me a bonk, you know?
-Okay.

Okay, now here's what
we do at the bonk.

-[Pistol] All right.
-We're going to had conversation

where I'm gonna
say something, I'm...

[guitar strumming]

And then...

And then you're going
to say something.

♪♪♪♪

[Paul] Then you're going to say
a little word there.

[Spike]
When these guys get together

in the room
on the very first day,

it starts off under
this false premise that

five people who
don't know each other

come together to make a band.

And you think,
"How can that possibly work?"

But it does work very quickly

because they're all there
for that purpose

and they're all focused
on creating something.

♪♪♪♪

[David] I don't tell
these rockers what to do,

I-- I've learned my lesson,

you know, they are smarter than
I am when it comes to music.

And I might be
able to make deals

and put them in a room
together with people,

but when it comes to
telling them what to do,

I let every rock star
do what they want to do

best that Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp.

So if they feel that they
want to do a masterclass

or if they feel they want
to teach them to write a song,

they get very involved in these
people and they respect them

because they're
fellow musicians.

So yes, the work is hard,
but it's good-hard.

♪♪♪♪

-Yeah.
-These campers come in next.

Oh, wow, organic popcorn.

[speaking indistinctly]

I'm gonna lose my voice.
We're doing [indistinct]

And do you know what
we spent all morning doing?

-[indistinct].
-Oh.

[David]
What's your band?

Men 'O' Pause.

Men 'O' Pause. Amazing.

I like that.
I love hosting events.

You should have done
Men'O'Pause and the Hot Flashes.

I-- I tried to throw
Hot Flash in there

but they said,
"No, it's too much."

-That was too much?
-Too much.

They said it's too much.

I need to go from?

-I missed the whole line. Sorry.
-Yeah.

[Tammy] I think the singing
part is harder.

[instructor] That's about
when you're down to singing...

[Tammy]
Drumming, oh my God,

if you missed a beat
or if you didn't hit the cymbal,

you could do that
and get away with it.

Now, singing,
you got to know those words.

People know these songs.

They expect
the lyrics to be right.

You know, it's hard to kind
of fake that part.

♪♪♪

Oh, yeah.

[words on screen]

[telephone bell ringing]

[Roger] I mean, it's not easy
doing these camps.

I got to figure out, um,
we need one more amp.

It can be extremely frustrating,
and extremely hard work.

with these, uh, musicians,
they vary in qualities.

Some are very good

but equally they might apply
with something not that good.

[Nancy] There were some
train wrecks. [laughs]

Some of them were caused by me.

[man] We were about to play
"Sweet Child of Mine."

And Slash made a mistake.

[laughs]

[Rob]
We still make mistakes.

Yeah, it's like, you know?

-In front of 80,000 people.
-Yeah.

You know,
but that's Rock and Roll.

[Sammy] You know, Robert Plant
and the Who,

you know, Peter Townshend,

when I was growing up, I looked
at those guys thinking, man,

they got it together,
you know, boy,

I wish I had that
kind of confidence.

They-- They weren't confident.

Plant'd stand around, you know,

doing things, he didn't know
what to do with his hands.

Daltrey swinging the mic stand
and waiting for Pete

to make the next move
because their jamming,

he don't know what to do.

Folks, we don't have it together
any better than you.

We just learnt
how to get out and do it.

[Tammy] You're bringing that
audience home with you.

You're taking them on a ride.

That's a lot of responsibility

One, two, three, four.

Right?

[Lita] I mean, you can't explain
it unless you do it

because it's just
one of those things,

it's like being a mom.

I mean, it's kind
of the same thing at-- in--

in Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.

It's-- It's really
difficult to explain

unless you've actually done it
and gone through it

and see how
life changing it is.

[indistinct chattering]

-[woman] It's okay.
-[Tammy] Oh, my God.

It's a lot of salad.

You making that much salad?

Wife, mom, boss.
That's sort of my mantra.

As much as I love my job,
I don't think it defines me.

I love playing jobs.
It doesn't define me.

It's just another facet of me.

I love my family,
doesn't define me.

Anyway, you don't want--
Do you want wine, baby?

No, right? All right.

You're not giving her any wine.

No, she gets the--
There water for her.

Give her some water.

♪♪♪♪

[cheers & applause]

-[crowd cheering]
-[host] Everybody!

Please welcome Kiss!

We have the Kiss, you know,
the Kiss Condoms.

When you're cold,
you got to have the Kiss Cozy.

This piece is a paper mache
Gene Simmons

that my daughter made
when she was really little.

It wouldn't be Kiss without
the Kiss Gene Simmons,

hooking up panties.

♪♪♪

[Tammy] Kiss was great about
making media events,

about everything we did.

Did you know that some
of our stores are actually open

all night?

[Tammy] I mean,
I've been following them

since I was a kid.

Yeah!

If anybody told me I could
totally live the rock star life,

uh, I would have to really,
really carefully consider that.

There is a price to pay.

[indistinct]

[Tammy] If that meant,
no, I didn't spend any time

with my family and my husband
was miserable at home alone,

and my doggie missed me,
yeah, nuh-uh.

-Hey, buddy, there you go.
-Really get the bottom.

-Nice.
-Oh, my God. It's so bad.

I can't eat that.
It's not even edible.

You believe that crap?

Don't do drugs.

[Tammy] So I'm being selfish,
this camp.

As much as I love drumming,

I wanted to be on stage
with Paul Stanley dancing.

-Welcome back.
-Hey. How are you?

Good. How are you?
Nice to see you.

The drummer gets the, you know,

the little punch
of the high five.

They come over,
they do the little shake

and then they walk off the side,

and then that's it,
that's the love you get.

So could we sign
on memorabilia first?

[Tammy] So I'm gonna suck it up,
I'm gonna attack the fear,

and I'm going to do this
with Paul Stanley,

and I'm going to sing.

That's what I want.

this is like a once
in a lifetime opportunity

for me to do this.

And I'm hoping
I can pull it off.

So this is really scary.

Yeah.

Right now, you can go,
you're ready.

Have a little surprise for you.

What are you doing here?
[laughs]

Did you pay to come
to camp this week?

I was going to say to you
how do you get in the business.

You open the door.

[Paul] If we were just wearing
jeans and-- and Pumas,

we could play into our eighties.

But when you're carrying
around 30 or 40 pounds of gear,

and you're running around

and you want to make sure
that your stomach is

not hanging over your tights.

[laughing]

You think we could possibly see
any of your past members get up

to jam with you guys
for a song on stage?

-[Paul] Anything's possible.
-Yeah. I love to see, like,

Bruce Kulick get up
and do something with you.

-So would he.
-Yeah?

[laughing]

[cheers & applause]

[Paul]
Music is magical.

I think
all the arts are magical.

Just got to chill
because music is indelibly

a part of who I am.

But when you're younger
and you don't have kids

and you don't have family,
your band or your music,

or whatever you pursue
is your life.

The beauty about having
children hopefully

with the-- the right spirit,
quite honestly, it's--

it's part of why we're here
on-- on Earth, I think,

is to produce children
who are better than us,

go further than us, and make
the world better than we do.

Thank you.

[applause]

-[clerk] 250.
-[Blake] 250 or 200?

-200, 250.
-Oh, yeah.

[Quinn] Blake, he's a pretty
important part of my life.

I connected with him
pretty early on.

I've been teaching him
for about four years.

Like they say, like,
a kid in a candy store.

-But there are kids, I guess.
-Yeah, well...

[Quinn] The question isn't
what Blake can do.

The question is what Blake
can't do and there's not much.

He can play anything
I throw at him.

And if his technique
isn't up to par,

he will work on it
'til he absolutely nails it.

One, two, ready, go.

Blake struggles with
saying what's on his mind.

But he'll play and he'll play.

And play and play.
And you can kind of tell

what mood he's in
by how he plays.

-Good job, buddy.
-[Blake] Thank you.

It's about catching that spark.

[Tony] Ideas come usually at
the most inconvenient times.

Driving along in the car,
I had to pull over

and get my book out
and write something down,

or I have to cut
the shower short,

or I'm in the middle
of going to the bathroom,

it's like, "No, no."

Here it is, right here.

My notes.

There might be the next "Ain't
Got No Satisfaction" in there.

Probably not but you never know.

[laughs]

It's more like a cow, though.

There's a song by
The Temptations

called
"Papa Was A Rolling Stone."

It's a six and a half
minute song.

-[man] Whoa.
-[man 2] Yeah.

[Tony]
To be a bass player,

you have to get your ego
out of the way.

That's it.

I almost lost
my first professional gig

because of overplaying.

The band-leader said
if you don't pull it back

and simplify,
I may have to let you go.

You know, imagine if
Gollum played the bass.

[mimics Gollum]
Play more notes, it's boring.

Now, now, the master's the song.

[laughing]

It's boring.

[laughing]

[Tony] That first gig
that I almost lost

led on to the next gig,
which led

to me playing with
Jimmy Page with The Firm.

♪♪♪♪

Rock broccoli.

Yeah. Got some peas.

You know,
there's no place like gnome.

I really was living
the rock and roll fantasy,

and I was living the reckless
rock and roll lifestyle

that goes with that.

This is nice.
This is gonna be good in juice.

Oh, yeah.

-This one is lemony isn't it?
-Ooh!

[Tony] You feel
kind of invincible,

like you're on top of the world.

[cheers & applause]

That's when things
started to change.

[girl] It's so nice,
it made my eyes water.

Oh, yes, it made my throat burn.

In a good way, of course.

-It's quiet now.
-It's quiet now, yeah.

Ooh!

Now?

George and I-- Wow, well,
it goes back a long way.

That's a whole
story unto itself.

I, uh, in my crazy days
in the eighties.

With The Firm,
we had our own plane

with, uh, Jimmy Page in there.

Plenty of sold out shows
and travelling the world

and endless parties
and all that.

The stuff that you dream of

you think is going to fulfill
you and make you happy.

It just doesn't.

I was drinking like, almost
a bottle of whisky a day.

This-- There were people

that had known me
during that time,

and they saw a friend of mine
like a year or so later

and they go, "Oh, yeah. I was
hanging with Tony Franklin.

He said, "Oh, that guy.
Is he still alive?"

-Oh, wow.
-He seriously thought that

I would not make it.

-Well, I'm really glad you did.
-Me too, love.

[laughing]

Rock camp is a little bit
like self-realization

because you are
finding yourself.

To be able to give the campers

a magical experience
that they'll never forget

and draw my experience,
just to be able to do that is--

It's a pretty deep thing,
it really is, it's beautiful.

♪♪♪

-[Rudy] It's magical.
-Hey!

[Rudy] How I reconnected
with my joy of playing...

-How are you doing?
-All right.

...was here

at Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.

Oh!

[Paul] This isn't a chore.

You know, I'm at
a point in my life where

I don't have to do anything
I don't want to do.

It's not about money,
it's not about, um, perks.

It's about, I enjoy it.

[Nancy] What struck me the most
in a way was how appreciative

and excited

and inspired these people are.

it's just a really cool
experience to touch

someone's life,
inspire them with music that

they grew up with.

That's what it's about,
I realize now.

[David]
These people don't have to do

Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.

Uh, it's been
really great to see

the way-- the way Alice Cooper
and the way Roger Daltrey

and Gene Simmons see

how these rock stars
have been touched by it

and wanted to be part, um,

is really-- is really
been a beautiful thing.

♪ I can see right through
Your plastic, man ♪

♪ I look all white,
But my dad was black ♪

♪ My fine looking suit
Is really made out of sack ♪

Now you guys should go
to these masterclasses.

Oh, yeah.
I'm going to the vocals one.

-Okay.
-With Jason.

And you should
go to a guitar one.

Or-- Or-- Or you can go and
drink, whatever you choose.

Well, the two are not
mutually exclusive.

-Right?
-Yes, right.

Just right right now.

♪ Oh ♪

♪ Ah ♪

[vocalizing]

Did it feel smooth?
Do you push from your diaphragm?

[vocalizing]

Did you feel the difference?

-[student] Yes.
-[student 2] Yeah.

-[phone ringing]
-Just hold on.

Hey, babe. I'm in the middle
of a vocal thing. Ready?

[vocalizing]

I'll call you back, okay?

-[laughing]
-Thanks.

[Kathy] I've really suffered
a lot with anxiety

and panic attacks
over the years.

I really had to find
my own way to fix it myself.

And for me, it was music.

[Lita] These people that
do come to the camp,

a lot of them have problems
they want to overcome.

And within those five days,
eventually,

they show their true colours
and their true angers.

I came from Cuba,
as a six year old kid.

My mother and father
gave me a guitar and said,

"Learn how to play this,

it'll help you make friends
wherever you are."

[Michael] Grew up pretty strict
Orthodox Jewish family.

Definitely the black
sheep of the family.

If they saw me like this
right now, they probably get

a little scared
and, uh, and a bit worried.

♪♪♪♪

All right, ladies.
Here comes another one.

I've always just had
stage fright, you know?

I never, ever thought
I was good enough.

But now more than anything,
I just feel

anxious but ready to rock.

[Bruce] I'm not a very good
guitar player.

You know, Oh, my God, Jeff Beck,
I can't possibly get up

on stage and play alongside him.

All of a sudden,
the drums just kick in

and just take the band
to a whole another level.

And I turn around and
it's the drummer from Chicago.

That's the first time in my life
that I had ever played with

a professional drummer
of that caliber.

[Roger] Playing guitar as
something like as Jeff Beck.

Yeah, I mean, he's coming out
full of enthusiasm for it.

You know,
this thing is offering

every musician
that does it, something.

[Meat Loaf] When you
walk on stage, you own it.

And no one at that
moment and in that time,

is better than you are.

[Ashley] Whatever it is,
don't be afraid to like,

do you, you know,
loosen up a little bit.

This is about having fun.

[laughing]

[Gene]
If I was in charge,

I would get Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp in every school,

sixth grade.

And I used to teach sixth grade.

Rock and Roll Fantasy!

Yeah!

[David]
That's what keeps me going.

Every day I open up my emails

and people just tell me we
changed our lives at this camp.

[Blake] It was awesome jamming
with the guy that wrote

one of rock's biggest
anthems ever.

Just wow.

[Paul] It's a great feeling when
people think you're important

and you make them feel like
they're the stars and they are.

I see you playing,
you like your part,

but get with him.

As long as you got him
back there.

-We can't lose.
-[Paul] We can't lose.

Yeah, it's great.

-Paul's right.
-A pocket.

Yeah, a pocket.

[words on screen]

Good job, guys.

Guy's awesome, man.

[Pistol]
For him to point to me to say,

"With that guy back there
on drums, you can't go wrong."

And he said he reminds
me of Buddy Miles.

I grew up listening
to Buddy Miles.

To be acknowledged
by someone of the caliber

of Paul Stanley of Kiss,

what he has achieved
is what my ultimate goal is,

and that's something I will
cherish for the rest of my life.

I really will.

To be recognized
by my peers, if you will,

in a genre that I'm not used to,
was uplifting was encouraging.

Um, so I will now
be a metal head.

All right? Okay? [laughing]

♪♪♪

[incomprehensible lyrics]

[incomprehensible lyrics]

[incomprehensible lyrics]

[Scott] Depending on your age
group and your taste in music,

there are certain
musical movements

and personalities
who are very defining.

And Dave Mustaine is a musician
who many would say

is the guy who
created thrash metal

through the way
he played guitar.

♪ Then do it! ♪

[Scott] When I was in
my bedroom, jamming these songs

when I was
in a high school band,

if you would have told
that Scott

that someday Dave Mustaine
is gonna be

watching you play his song,

that Scott would have
just never believed you

and said, like, whatever,
you know, pipe dream.

♪♪♪♪

We went out of town,
and all those sort of things,

it was like
the Megadeth soundtrack,

the Metallica soundtrack.
Thank you.

[woman] I used to give him
potato with...

[words on screen]

[Scott] Context for a Rock
and Roll Fantasy Camp in my life

has been that I have
a special needs son.

My second child,
he was born with brain damage.

Couldn't see, couldn't hear,
no voluntary movement.

-Yeah.
-[Scott] This was the end of me

being a musician, actually.

Good job. And what
do you do with your feet?

In fact, I was recording a CD

and I was planning
on releasing it

and I was planning on
even touring behind it,

then Jackson came along.

Hello, little Jackson.
Hello, sleepyhead.

[Scott] And became the only
thing that matters.

How do we help Jackson?

The first thing
is he has profound,

diffuse, bi-lateral
brain damage.

How do you help this child be

the fullest human
being they can be?

And so all attention
went to Jackson.

Boy, not happening.

We had a very
intensive home program.

Helping rewire his brain.

It was like boot camp
at our house.

[mother]
Hey, look at you, look at you.

[Scott]
Well done. Well done. Whoo!

Give it up. Give it up.

Good job. What's this?

O.

[woman] Good job, Jack.
Go, go, go. Perfect.

[Scott]
One day, you know,

his hands and his ears and
actually his eyes would move

as if it was a reaction.

I remember us going,
"Did that really just happen?"

Watch this!

[Scott] It's really just
hard-gained, miracle type stuff.

You can beat me on this one.

It's a battle.

You're doing it. One more.
You're gonna tie it up.

Get it.

-I beat you.
-Yeah, you totally nailed it.

Nicely done. Give me some.

All right. Good job.

So tell me more about the day.

-Yeah.
-What's your film about?

-Me being a monster.
-About you being a monster?

No way. And what do you
do when you're a monster?

-I take kids down.
-Down where?

Down to Chinatown.

You take kids down to Chinatown.
That's awesome.

Yeah.

You drop first
and then I drop after.

One, two, three.

Oh, no.

You got to get it
right in the lines, okay? One.

Stay in the black lines.

Good one.
That's a good one. Slow down.

Excellent. Good job. Nice work.

So, Jackson, what would
you like to do this year?

What's one of your
goals for this year?

Play bass at Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp.

Yeah?

Yeah.

That's a G, so that's the--
that right,

but we can do open first.

All right, third fret.

-Good, Jack.
-It's a lot.

Where did you go?

Go on, boy, quarterback.

So is there any chicken
in your chicken soup?

-No.
-No? [laughs]

Awesome. [laughs]

♪♪♪

[Jackson]
I did it.

Yes, you did. You cooked.

Yeah, nicely done. All right.

-Rock and Roll.
-[Scott] Nice.

So, uh, you guys want--

Want to try something?

-Yeah, absolutely.
-Okay.

Um, how about in the chorus,

sit out and one beat.
[mouthing music]

One, two, three.

[incomprehensible lyrics]

-Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool.
-Cool.

So whose guitar
can I borrow real quick?

♪♪♪

So that's the riff and then the
other main riff and the cho--

♪♪♪

There's a slight
little bend going up.

♪♪♪♪

-Good job, guys. That was fun.
-Thank you.

Yeah.

This is yours too.

♪♪♪

The siren warble.

What's Teddy like
as a councillor?

-Teddy has a--
-Does he stay on point

-or was he all over the place?
-Well, sort of all over the map.

Sort of, but...

By the time you had a whole day
of work and a visiting legend

and then a jam session
at the end, 10, 12 hours

can actually start
to unhinge you.

So we have to go to the Martini
Bar to do some repairing.

[Spike]
As long as you guys had fun,

you guys sounded
fricking fantastic.

You guys did.

You know the fact that David
lets me do the Q&A's here,

-Oh, that's awesome. I know.
-that's huge for me.

If it weren't for Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp,

I can't say that I would

even have any interest
in broadcasting it.

[laughing]

-That's one cowboy ninja.
-Bear Cowboy Ninja.

Bear Cowboy Ninja.
Oh, okay. I got it.

She's improved a lot.

-Yeah, I guess.
-I'm telling you.

You're going to have a big
sadness, Monday morning.

Oh, yeah, you're gonna be
like in depression, bro.

-You're like--
-The low after the high.

Post-camp depression is a thing.

-It's-- it's heartbreaking.
-Right?

♪♪♪♪

So tonight will be "Patience."

-Bad Moon.
-A little "Bad Moon Rising."

All right? Okay, here we go.

So that's--
that's our set right there.

Gentlemen, play it right.

Play it with no mistakes
and play it well

and, um, you all--

there'll be a drink waiting
for you at the bar.

-How about have fun?
-Oh, there you go.

-And have fun. There you go.
-Have fun.

A little hard
for my little band.

Yeah!

Alrighty.

-So.
-[man] Okay, so last day, guys.

-Last day.
-Last day, last night.

How about rock and roll
all night?

-Tammy.
-Oh, yeah. We can do it.

[Tammy]
Just do "Startled."

-[Vinny] Are you in a bad mood?
-[Tammy] I am in a bad mood.

Just-- Just do "Startled."

-[Vinny] That's a good song.
-[phone ringing]

-Ooh.
-Oh, my alarm.

What the hell is that?

-Tinker Bell?
-It's Christmas.

It's Christmas. Yes.

[laughing]

So wait.

Okay, let's get ready
to check in, in Southwest.

-Hello.
-A very important thing.

[words on screen]

[laughs]

Here you are, B33.

Got a better one than me
and that one's on time.

What am I?

-B?
-B33.

I like to be A.

We got four minutes.
Check this out.

Okay, okay. I know,
I gotta put my plugs in.

No, no, we'll play though.

♪♪♪♪

[incomprehensible lyrics]

♪ I know
She's gonna make you cry ♪

[Vinny]
Tammy, she's an amazing singer.

She gave me chills
a couple times.

Last night we played, she hits
a note that was ridiculous.

I fell off the drums set.

-Are you sure?
-Because I--

-I put seat-belt on.
-[laughing]

[Vinny]
What do you like better?

Being behind the kit
or being up front?

[Tammy]
I'm going to be honest.

It's more nerve wracking
being in front.

-[Vinny] Being up in front?
-Oh, my God.

-[Tammy] More nerve-wracking.
-You could hide behind drums.

[Tammy] And even if you mess up,
you can cover it a bit.

You can go on with dirty pants.
You know, this shirt's wrinkled.

There's spilled something
down here.

-Sneakers.
-It doesn't matter.

[Tammy] I have
to thank you very much

for giving me
confidence to do this,

because this was very, very
hard for me. No, seriously.

-This was very hard for me.
-It's like the love connection.

[laughing]

♪♪♪

I know, right?

-Hey.
-See you there, man.

-See you soon.
-All right.

I'm off. You guys sounded great.

-You guys sounded great.
-This was fantastic.

I mean, it really was.

[Gene] It's very hard for people
to be up on stage

in the first place.

You know, who wants to
be told, "Yo, that stinks."

-Rock and roll.

[Gene]
But once you break through it,

you realize the only thing
you have to fear is fear itself.

Thank you,
Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Well, maybe fire...

[Warren] Playing in your bedroom
is not the same as

playing with a drummer and
playing with a bass player and--

If one part is wrong,
it makes the other part wrong.

...Fantasy, guys, final night
here in Las Vegas, Nevada.

[Warren] Being in tune
is important.

I was drinking so much
water in my room, man.

I'm going to piss my pants.

[Warren] Not playing
ahead of the beat.

How are you feeling, brother?

I felt better.
Not being too loud.

But the show must go on.

Hey, you know,
I got that throat spray

if you want the last of it.

I'll try anything right now.

[Warren]
And listening.

Blow it out. So who cares
after we're done and it's fine.

[Warren] This is the one
thing that some people

forget is one of
the most important

parts about playing music.

[woman over mic
speaking indistinctly]

[crowd cheering]

Hi!

[cheers & applause]

[David] My dad lived a--
a tough life growing up,

He lost all his sisters
except one in the war.

But there was the music,
whether it was cantorial music,

whether it was the opera,

it was the power of music
that kept my dad alive.

Surviving Auschwitz and
Birkenau concentration camps.

You're just getting
appetizers now?

-Just for now. Just for now.
-Yeah, just to have something.

Something on the table, and
there's gonna be other people.

So I don't vomit. [laughs]

If they're playing three songs
and it's 12, 15 minutes.

That goes by in a heartbeat.

I think we're almost
the same size.

We can swap shoes.

[Spikey] And if that's going to
be 12 minutes of blind terror,

then I've gone and
I haven't done my job

and it's a bit of a waste.

You need to savour every
single second of this.

[words on screen]

I know. I know.

Rub, let some
of that rub off of me.

-It's rubbing, there you go.
-So that I'm not-- not--

not so scared all the time.

Well, you know what it is?
You're concentrating on

so many other things up there.

-Yeah.
-And what do you forget?

Like the most important
thing, breathing.

Please welcome back to
the stage, Mr. Paul Stanley.

[cheers & applause]

♪♪♪

♪ I feel uptight
On a Saturday night ♪

[Bill] As a toddler,
like he was nonverbal.

I mean, completely nonverbal.

♪ The only light ♪

[Bill] When he puts a guitar on

and there's a bunch of people
out in the audience,

he's a different person

♪ Hear my song ♪

♪ Playing on the radio ♪

♪ Get up, everybody's
Gonna move their feet ♪

♪ Get down, everybody's
Gonna leave their seat ♪

[Bill] Now you see a child
at a very young age

and you don't know
what his life's going to be like

as he gets older.

And, you know,
to see him grow and

be able to do something,
it's just fantastic.

I mean, as a parent,
you can ask for anything more.

♪ Get up, everybody's
Gonna move their feet ♪

[host] Oh, the screams.

That was the camp
and Mr. Paul Stanley.

[cheers & applause]

[Paul] It's really a-- a--
a moment for people to

rub shoulders and--
and get some pointers

that they'll probably never
use at Madison Square Garden.

It's not about that,
it's not about

how good you are.

It's about how much
you enjoy playing.

♪ Tough girl! Tough girl! ♪

No more worries
about the dumb notes.

We'll live the music, yeah,
if you're not singing. [laughs]

Who cares about you?
It's all about just having fun.

[cheers & applause]

Thank you very much.
Love you guys.

Mick Jagger on steroids.
Rob Cohen.

[Tammy] He told me
that I could be a real--

maybe not a rock star,
but if I could be

a really, really good musician,

does that mean that I have to
be a rock star to be that? No.

No, I could be that
in my own little world,

and I'm happy with that.

All right, everyone.
Mr. Paul Stanley.

[cheers & applause]

♪♪♪♪

♪ I know! ♪

♪ I know! ♪

♪ I know... ♪

I'm singing for
the first time on stage.

I can do this like, you know,
I'm going for it.

Sometimes you need
that kick in the butt.

Because your lack of confidence
stops you from doing things

that you actually
probably can do.

♪ Everybody
Just don't let it go ♪

♪ And again
Don't let it go ♪

♪ Trouble! ♪

[Pistol] To play for
these musicians on stage

was just an extra icing
on the cake.

Paul Stanley saying,
I reminded him of Buddy Miles.

He says,
"Man, what are you doing here?"

You know, he said, "You should
be out there working, man.

And playing for a living."

And then Zakk Wylde, come on.

You know, that's--

That's pretty damn awesome.

♪ Baby! Baby! ♪

[Scott] You know,
your nervousness

goes through the roof
when one of your heroes

is watching you jam,
but in a cool way.

You just in life don't really
end up in that crucible.

It's like you're basically
living with these rock stars

who you've grown up idolizing.

I don't think anyone can
go into that experience and not

learn about themselves.

[cheers & applause]

[words on screen]

[David] One of the things
I enjoy at camp,

I always call myself--
I'm a Jewish Santa Claus.

♪♪♪♪

If I can make a difference in
these people's lives every day.

Then that's what's
important for me.

You know, I am raised orthodox.

And I'm in rock and roll
and sports.

I did take the yarmulke
to the next level.

Oh, did you guys hear?

-Wow.
-What!

Look at this camper
at Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.

What an honour.
Give me some love.

All right.

Jackson,
I'm thrilled you're here.

-Excited?
-Yeah.

Right. Is this
a dream for you too?

Go to Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp?

-Yeah.
-It's my dream too

-that you're here.
-Can you rock?

-Yeah.
-What's your rock star name?

-J.J. Rockpow.
-Great.

Hey, dad. What's your name?
[laughing]

-Father of J.J. Rockpow.
-That's it. Now you got it.

-[laughing]
-You ready to do it?

Yeah.

[Scott]
Get some rock power here.

Okay? You ready?

What!

Hit it, Tucky.

♪♪♪♪

[incomprehensible lyrics]

[incomprehensible lyrics]

[Roger] It's very easy
in this business,

which we're
incredibly privileged

to forget where you came from.

But these camps reminded
me of where I was

when I made
my first guitar, you know?

[Warren]
We reminded ourselves

why we started playing
in the first place.

[Lita] By the time
it's all over, you know

everything about their mother
and their father.

It's pretty cool.

They're rock stars for
the weekend. It's rock and roll.

It's in the title, right?
The Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.

♪ Let's do this together! ♪

Because of fantasy camp,
a light came on

to me about what I do
and how lucky I am

and how blessed us musicians

who get to play music
for a living.

It's like, "I got it, mate."
[laughing]

I've got the best job
in the world.

All the belly. The belly.

Oh!

Wow. Handwork.

There you-- Oh, there you go.

[laughing]

[incomprehensible lyrics]

[Teddy] I've had situations
where people are so excited

about the camp,
and when they're done,

they'll write to me, go,
"Listen.

I'm thinking about
quitting my job

and-- and go and do
music full time."

And that's when you have to--

you have to rein them
in a little bit.

You go, well, don't--
just not just yet.

You know, but it happens.

♪♪♪♪

[Pistol] First one to get there
and the last to leave.

I hate that.

Next life, I'm playing flute.

♪ Get that old man! ♪

[Gene]
Nobody is born a rock star.

Nobody is born
president or anything.

They started off as kids also.

And the magic of the camp is
you actually meet somebody

who scaled Mount Olympus
and you have the sense

maybe I can do it too.

Have you been practising?

-Yeah.
- ♪ Rock 'n' roll ♪

[Tony] Beethoven would
always say, you know,

it's not about playing
the right notes,

it's if-- if you have passion.

[crowd singing]
♪ Rock 'n' roll ♪

♪ Rock 'n' roll ♪

♪ We're gonna rock 'n' roll ♪

[Gary] Here we go!

[incomprehensible lyrics]

-Louder!
- ♪ Rock 'n' roll ♪

If Bob Dylan and Gene Simmons
and Jimi Hendrix

audition for The Voice,
do you think we'd make it?

[mimics Bob Dylan] Well,
it's about time. This is about--

You think we'd make it?

♪♪♪♪

[Alice] I always think
that the people that show up

at the Fantasy Camp
are people that

have it in the
back of their mind.

-You know,
-All right.

this could develop
into something,

that something could happen
if I got really good.

♪ Whoa! ♪

I-- I can't think of
a more fun thing to do.

I mean it's better than
stamp collecting, you know?

♪♪♪♪

♪ Get your drums and bass,
Guitars and amps ♪

♪ Put your dreams on the line
And take a chance ♪

♪ Jamming out together
and start a hot band ♪

♪ Because this is
The Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp ♪

♪ We like to rock ♪

♪ We like to roll ♪

♪ We like it hot ♪

♪ We play with heart and soul ♪

♪ Come on everybody
And take a chance ♪

♪ And join the Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp ♪

♪ Join the Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp ♪

♪ You're never too young,
You're never too old ♪

♪ To dig in to the beat
And play some Rock and Roll ♪

♪ If band's your rhythm,
You write your own song ♪

♪ It's a dream of a lifetime,
It's where you belong ♪

♪ We like to rock ♪

♪ We like to roll ♪

♪ We like it hot ♪

♪ We play with heart and soul ♪

♪ Come on everybody
And take a chance ♪

♪ And join the Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp ♪

♪ Join the Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp ♪

♪ You're never too young,
You're never too old ♪

♪ To dig in to the beat
And play some Rock and Roll ♪

♪ If band's your rhythm,
You write your own song ♪

♪ It's a dream of a lifetime,
It's where you belong ♪

♪ We like to rock ♪

♪ We like to roll ♪

♪ We like it hot ♪

♪ We play with heart and soul ♪

♪ Come on everybody
And take a chance ♪

♪ And join the Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp ♪

♪ Join the Rock and Roll
Fantasy Camp ♪

♪ We like to rock ♪

♪ We like to roll ♪

♪ We like to rock ♪

♪ We like to roll ♪

♪♪♪