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Tonight on
Beyond Skinwalker Ranch...
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Talk about a perfect test pad
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that seems to be a sister
location to Skinwalker Ranch.
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What is that
that we're lookin' at?
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I don't know.
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- What was that?
- The temperature went up.
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- It just did it again.
- It did it.
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That's really weird.
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What was that?
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- Right there.
- There it is.
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It's getting more intense.
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What is that thing?
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For years,
scientists have been working
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to reveal the secrets
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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But is it possible that
the clues to unlock the mystery
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are located beyond the borders
of this hub of high strangeness?
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- Now...
- Whoa!
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an ex-CIA agent
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and a veteran journalist
have been recruited
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by the Skinwalker team
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to go on a high-stakes mission
across America.
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Look at all this activity
that's happening.
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- That's unbelievable.
- My gosh,
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Look at that, look at that,
look at that.
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Uncover evidence
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that may finally expose
the truth.
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- What is that thing?
- It's getting more intense.
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You ever see
anything like this before?
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No.
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This is just the beginning.
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Sound like Brandon's here?
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Hey gentlemen,
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it's time to launch
our new initiative.
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I'd like you to meet
our two new investigators,
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Andy Bustamante and Paul Beban.
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- Mornin'.
- Paul. Hey, how are you?
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Nice to meet you.
Hey, Paul. Nice to meet you.
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These are the new members
of our team.
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We're anxious to launch efforts
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and have a lot to discuss
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as we take our investigation
beyond Skinwalker Ranch
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to some of
these other sites of interest.
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We appreciate
your qualifications.
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We have two professionals here
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that I think are a true
complement to our effort.
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Andy is a graduate
of the Air Force Academy,
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former CIA investigator
and retired Air Force.
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Paul Beban is an
Emmy Award-winning journalist
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with ABC and PBS
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and brings
a level of expertise and depth
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to the investigation
and documenting,
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really, what we will be
engaging with
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the sites as we proceed forward.
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- That is impressive.
- Well, we're excited
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to join the effort
and sort of see how
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all of our skill sets
fit together
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and, you know, get started.
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Erik and I have been talkin'
about this for a long time,
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and we've been kind of running
this idea by Brandon
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that Skinwalker Ranch,
while it is a unique place,
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it might not be the only place
around the globe
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that has a very interesting
phenomenon to be observed.
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But our bandwidth
is getting filled
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with all of the research
and investigation here.
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We need a task force,
a special ops team,
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that can help inform
what we're doing here
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and maybe what our next
experiments will be.
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So, your goal
is to find the places
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that have the weird stories,
take scientific measurements,
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collect data
and even poke the hornet's nest
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and see if any hornets fly out.
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We've got to see
what's goin' on,
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and it will help us understand:
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is... is Skinwalker Ranch
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isolated, very unique,
nothin' else is like it?
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Or is it connected
to something bigger?
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And I think that's what you guys
are gonna help us figure out.
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We'd like to arm you with many
of the third party experts
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that have aided
the investigation
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here at Skinwalker Ranch.
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Not only to establish
some continuity,
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but to provide
a level of resource.
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Skinwalker Ranch
is base camp to deploy assets.
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We see you truly as an extension
of our investigation.
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So, Paul and Andy,
as... as your work follows
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the model
of what we've established here
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at Skinwalker Ranch, I fully
expect as you collect your data
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and you're led by your data,
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your findings will help us
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to evolve our process
here at the ranch.
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Yeah, I mean, Paul and I come in
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really comfortable
with field work.
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We're used to going out there
in front,
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not really knowing
what we're stepping into,
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getting shot at,
and then coming back
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with whatever information
and intel we can collect.
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Hopefully, we won't get
shot at or tear gassed
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or any of the things
that have happened
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in my previous line of work,
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but, you know, we're...
We're ready for anything
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and we're excited
to get out there.
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Given what we know,
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I think,
you know, our first project,
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not too far away, but with
so many similar characteristics,
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is... is gonna be
really interesting for you guys.
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- Please, do tell.
- Well, you've got my attention.
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So, we came into a book
called Merging Dimensions.
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It references a ranch,
Bradshaw Ranch.
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It's not far from a place
called Sedona, Arizona,
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which is commonly known,
even in tourist circles,
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as an area that
in and of itself is strange.
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Wonderful.
I have heard just a little
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about both of these locations.
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You couldn't have picked
a better place to start.
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So, the ranch itself
has actually had reports
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of UFO sightings...
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orb sightings...
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- strange creatures.
- Yup.
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The backstory of
Bradshaw Ranch is fascinating.
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Bob Bradshaw
was really an old-school cowboy
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who ended up turning
this place into a movie set.
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Elvis movies were filmed there.
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I mean, this place
was a bustling scene.
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It was a home.
It was a working film set.
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At the same time,
he and his family
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were experiencing, you know,
all kinds of high strangeness
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in a time when it just
really wasn't spoken of.
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I mean, he had a business
to run out there.
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We saw this spaceship.
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They were traveling fast
down that hillside
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and right into the ranch.
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It was really so...
A spectacular thing to see.
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Talk about a perfect test pad
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that seems to be a sister
location to Skinwalker Ranch.
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One thing that Bradshaw Ranch
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seems to have in common
with Skinwalker Ranch
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is the diversity
of activity and phenomena.
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We're gonna start with the data.
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We're gonna run experiments
out there,
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we're gonna see if we can
measure these phenomena,
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and we're gonna talk
to as many people as we can
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and try to get the facts
of the backstory.
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We've been able
to establish contact
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with the previous owner
of the ranch, John Bradshaw.
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His son, Mason,
is with him as well.
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They're the first people
we plan on talking to
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when we land on the ground.
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Well, I'm absolutely
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intrigued by this,
and I can't wait
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to see what
you guys find and report back.
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Just filled with anticipation.
Wishing you the best of luck.
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Yeah, yeah.
Good luck, gentlemen.
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All right. So, we're off.
We'll let you know what we find.
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Man, you could not ask
for a more spectacular location
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to start
our investigation, right?
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I mean, look at this place.
It's just stunning.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, there's Sedona itself,
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and then Bradshaw Ranch.
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Yes, if you consider
Bradshaw Ranch,
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you've got multiple types
of high strangeness
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that already correlate
with the high strangeness
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that they've recorded in
phenomenon at Skinwalker Ranch.
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- Right.
- Light orbs,
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Skinwalkers themselves
and portals.
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There are a lot of accounts here
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- that sound pretty fantastic.
- Pretty fantastic.
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And pretty far-fetched, right?
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How much
are we going to be willing
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to accept, as CIA agents,
investigative journalists?
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Where are we gonna say, "Okay,
this is something here on earth.
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"It could be real and true."
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The whole point
of what we're doin' here
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is pin these
extraordinary stories,
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these anecdotes and experiences,
to reality, right?
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We're gonna use
the scientific method.
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We're gonna try
to do more interviews.
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We're gonna run
some experiments.
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Are there ways to connect
what seems extraordinary
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to actual facts on the ground
right here in the world
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that aren't just,
you know, a tall tale?
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So, what I've experienced
in the field,
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and I'm sure
you've seen it too, Paul,
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is when you talk
to an eyewitness...
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- Yeah.
- they believe what they saw.
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But the real magic happens
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when you can create
bulletproof evidence
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separate from the eyewitness
experience itself.
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- Something you can measure.
- Yeah.
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Because that
brings a whole new level
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of depth and utility
to the eyewitness account.
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Now, in my time with CIA,
I've seen some crazy things.
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Things that nobody thought
was possible,
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and for sure things
that nobody believed,
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but they still proved
to be true in the end.
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It's really important when you
show up to do an investigation,
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you have to be open
to all the possibilities.
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Because if
you rule something out
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based on your own personal bias,
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you might miss
the most important piece.
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It gives you a thread to pull
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and then you layer that
with real scientific research
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and you get to see
where that data takes you.
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Well, now we're gonna
put that to the test.
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And we have the benefit
of the experience
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of the team at Skinwalker
to bear on this place,
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which is really untested.
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Yeah, we're visiting
other hornets nests.
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That's right.
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We're adding
to the list of hornets nests
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that we're gonna poke.
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- Well, here we are
-ANDY: Amazing.
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- How's it goin'?
- Hi there.
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- John.
- Mason.
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Hey, good to meet you.
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Thank you for meeting us.
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There's so much mystery here.
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Maybe just tell us
a little bit about
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what's the deal out here.
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Well, so it's a lot
of legacies and stories
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and just things that are out
there that people know about.
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We're not gonna tell
you what to believe,
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- but this is what's out there.
- Sure.
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It was about 1995, probably.
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My step mom, Linda,
was living out here with my dad.
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They were doin' dishes
and watching TV one night,
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and all of a sudden,
Linda looked out the window
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and there was
what appeared to be
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another time and space
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merging our dimension
with another dimension,
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almost like a projection
screen on a theater.
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So, we're talking about
some kind of space-time portal?
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That's what
she thought it was, yeah.
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- Okay.
- It's actually really close
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to where we're standing
right now.
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Great.
Well, you lead the way.
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Let's go.
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There's a saying
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that extraordinary claims
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require extraordinary evidence.
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At the same time, when someone
tells me straight-faced,
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someone credible
like the Bradshaws,
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that an interdimensional portal
opened up,
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that's an amazing story.
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I want to know more about that,
but I also need some facts.
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I need some evidence.
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So, I'm open to this,
but I need more
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before I'm willing to say,
"You know what? You're right."
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What I'd like to do
is take a few measurements.
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All right. Well, let's get
started. Let's get to work.
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All right.
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Since radiation has been
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a serious safety
problem on Skinwalker Ranch...
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- Mine's beepin'.
- Your max is about 120?
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- Yes, 120 somethin'.
- That's pretty high.
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Andy and Paul
have brought in radiation expert
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and Skinwalker veteran
Casey Smith,
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to survey the entire property
for radioactive levels
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and locate
any concerning anomalies.
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- 'Sup, guys?
- Great to see you.
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- Good to see you guys.
- What's goin' on?
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Just seein' if we get any
radiation measurements out here.
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I was gonna say,
what do you got?
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I got a new toy this year.
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This is a gamma cam,
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and we're actually getting
visuals of any radiation
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that's actually
populating around us.
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The gamma camera from H3D
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is a high-resolution
imaging system
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that can record visuals
of flowing radiation.
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The camera also collects data
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of the volume,
intensity and composition
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of any radioactive material
that might be present.
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So, Casey, this is gonna paint
a different picture
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from what you've seen out
at Skinwalker, is that right?
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Yeah, so with
the imaging software on here,
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it's just nice
to be able to actually see,
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if there is radiation, where
is it actually coming from?
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You look at some of the events
that happened
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up at Skinwalker Ranch, Travis
got, you know,
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potentially burned with...
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On the skin
with some radiation burns.
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That could be a tunnel
entrance for all we know.
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I'd like to know
what's in this thing.
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Don't lift it up.
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Feel like, I've got a little bit
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of a headache
or somethin' happenin'.
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The next day,
I noticed weird red marks
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on my hand and my head.
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They were radiation burns.
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You know, we don't know
where it came from.
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So, if you had somethin'
like that, maybe you can see...
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"Hey, there's somethin'
that came out
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"from the sky or the ground
or whatever."
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But with this,
you'll be able to pinpoint it.
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Yeah.
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Can I take this
for a test drive?
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Absolutely.
So, I got a couple
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other pieces of equipment
over here too.
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I'll grab that as well, but
let's take this guy off here.
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Excellent. Thank you.
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- Mason, you wanna come with me?
- Yeah.
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I wanna check out some
of what we see
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around these old remains.
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So, I'm not seeing anything
that looks dangerous.
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Organic matter releasing energy
is what we would expect to see.
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- This guy here.
- What do we got?
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This is an identiFINDER.
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It's got
a sodium iodide crystal in it.
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Is the idea
that you're basically
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- just scanning to...
- Yeah, you're just watching
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for the dose rates,
if anything changes.
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Let me walk over
and check these guys
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- and make sure they're goin'.
- Sure. Sure.
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Ideally,
for our own personal safety,
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we don't want to see anything.
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However, if we do see something,
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maybe there's some connection
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with all the strange things
that your family and others
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have reported out here
over the years.
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Check this out.
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The ranch house
is that direction.
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- Yep.
- You see that hot spot?
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- Yeah.
- There to the left.
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Yeah, you see
it radiating into the sky?
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That's a concentrated
area and a pinpoint.
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Well, that's interesting.
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What is that
that we're lookin' at?
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I don't know.
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It's like a...
Yeah, we got, like,
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a big streak over here,
and the streak...
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It's, like, bridging the
bottom of the screen to the top.
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Yeah. The red spots that
we're seeing are high intensity.
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Is it dangerous
what we're looking at?
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Right now, we're pretty low.
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I would suspect that
we would see some spots
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that's gonna be our naturally
occurring radiation
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that's in the ground,
thorium, uranium.
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The streaking that's going off
up into the sky,
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that's strange to me.
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To see this patch
of organic radiation
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in the direction
of the ranch house?
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It just leaves me baffled.
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This is a clear anomaly
that's in an area that has
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been reported multiple times
for high strangeness.
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What have you got, man?
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So check this out.
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We've been chasing
kind of a pinpoint red dot
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- across the field.
- Okay.
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Which makes it interesting.
And then we also see
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this strange climbing
into the sky.
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- Do you see that?
- What is that arc?
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It seems to be radiating
up into the atmosphere.
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I don't know what that is.
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This is happening in real time.
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And Casey, who's an expert,
is telling us
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he's never seen
anything like this before.
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It feels like we're on to
something right off the bat.
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Is there a way
to sort of hone in on it?
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Let me give it to you
so you can get a good view.
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Yeah. Here.
Let me trade you. Okay.
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So that...
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This is the source
in the ground,
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and that's
radiation into the sky.
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- Do you see it taking off?
- Whoa, what happened?
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00:14:16,975 --> 00:14:19,683
- We just lost the image.
- Is the camera failing?
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The source disappeared
and then the camera.
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Well, they're not...
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They go in and out.
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Yeah, it's gone.
All of it's gone now.
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You can't get the camera
back up at all.
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The minute I gave this
over to Paul
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and he talked about homing in
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to track this thing down,
it failed.
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That is just so weird.
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Almost like
it doesn't wanna be found.
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What I'll do with the data
that we've collected,
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I need to go pull it
into the visualizer software,
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take a look at it,
look for those peaks
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that I saw
up at Skinwalker Ranch
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and see
if they're occurring here.
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I also want to kind
of keep poking around
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and take some more measurements.
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Terrific.
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With a strange
radiation anomaly detected,
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but an all-clear from Casey,
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Andy and Paul are now meeting
with investigators
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who have a story
of a strange creature
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that terrorized
Merging Dimensions authors
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Linda Bradshaw and Tom Dongo.
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All right,
gentlemen, be careful.
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- Okay.
- Little bit
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- of a rough way down here.
- Got it.
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Linda, obviously,
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and Tom Dongo,
did a lot of exploring out here.
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What have you heard from Tom?
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In this subject matter
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of this type of research,
Tom is at the top,
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and Linda the same.
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So, they dedicated
their free time
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in exploring the property
when a lot of incredible
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and extraordinary things
happened.
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So, Tom and Linda
were down here?
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Yes.
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He did write of one experience
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where they had come down
to this general area,
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and they were stopped in
their tracks by grunting sounds.
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Within a short period of time
of hearing these grunting sounds
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and listening, they heard a roar
which Tom described
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much as an African lion roar.
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Something with
a much deeper voice
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and something more powerful.
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In fact, we had an experience
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not too long ago ourselves,
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and we heard
the exact same roar that Tom
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had described years prior
when he was here with Linda.
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We heard it several times,
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and it sent
a chill down my spine.
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We just... Both of us,
couldn't wait to get to the car.
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Coming down,
just, probably about ten feet,
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and something tapped Alexandra
on the back of the head.
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00:16:12,308 --> 00:16:14,767
Wait, I'm sorry, you felt
something actually touch you?
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Yes. I was last in line,
so Jeremiah and our friend
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were walking ahead of me, and
something tapped me on the head
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just like that. It was...
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- Twice.
- Twice.
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So, it wasn't like
you bumped into a branch.
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No, I didn't bump into anything.
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And I looked behind me
and there was nothing there,
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so I asked Jeremiah to quickly
take a picture with the flash.
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00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:37,850
And sure enough,
something did show up.
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There was an orb next to me.
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00:16:41,308 --> 00:16:42,767
But I can't explain that.
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00:16:42,892 --> 00:16:45,058
- That's very interesting.
- So, when Tom
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and Linda were referencing
the roar, the corral
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was one of the places where
they would separate some of
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the horses if they were injured
or if they were pregnant.
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And there was an incident
with a pregnant mare
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that started screaming as well.
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00:16:54,975 --> 00:16:56,683
And that's right through
the trees here.
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00:16:56,808 --> 00:16:58,850
- Let's go check it out.
- Okay, so that's close by.
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00:16:58,975 --> 00:17:00,517
- Very close by.
- All right.
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00:17:02,142 --> 00:17:04,308
- Look at this.
- So this is the corral?
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00:17:04,433 --> 00:17:05,850
- This is it.
- Got it.
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00:17:05,975 --> 00:17:07,642
Animals, of course,
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00:17:07,767 --> 00:17:09,725
are excellent
sensory perceptive creatures.
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00:17:09,850 --> 00:17:13,142
They usually know when something
abnormal is around before we do.
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00:17:13,308 --> 00:17:14,808
In this particular case,
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when they could hear
this horse screaming...
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she was so frightened
that her eyes seemed
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to be bugging out of her head
and she was kicking
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00:17:22,017 --> 00:17:24,683
with her hind legs
at the enclosure.
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00:17:24,808 --> 00:17:27,767
Wow. Okay. So,
how do you make sense of that?
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Something was frightening
the horses,
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and they were hearing
this on a regular basis.
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When we talk
about a credibility scale
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00:17:34,142 --> 00:17:36,725
in the intelligence world,
we talk about two things.
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00:17:36,808 --> 00:17:38,451
We talk about the credibility
of the source,
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00:17:38,475 --> 00:17:40,767
but we also talk about the
credibility of the information.
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00:17:40,850 --> 00:17:42,933
Jeremiah and Alexandra,
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00:17:43,058 --> 00:17:44,975
you see
really solid eye contact,
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00:17:45,142 --> 00:17:47,725
you see a level of confidence
as they explained
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00:17:47,808 --> 00:17:49,933
their own experiences here
on Bradshaw Ranch.
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00:17:50,058 --> 00:17:52,267
But credible
anecdotal information
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is only part of the equation.
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We have to take
from that anecdotal input
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00:17:56,183 --> 00:17:58,433
something that we can
apply science to
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00:17:58,558 --> 00:18:00,100
so we can pull
real facts from it.
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00:18:00,267 --> 00:18:02,308
I think that's why
we have our boots on the ground.
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Try to see it firsthand.
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00:18:08,142 --> 00:18:10,142
At Bradshaw Ranch
in Sedona, Arizona,
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00:18:10,308 --> 00:18:12,725
investigators, Paul Beban
and Andy Bustamante
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have heard stories
of high strangeness
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00:18:15,058 --> 00:18:16,433
occurring by the horse corral.
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00:18:16,558 --> 00:18:18,100
Something
was frightening the horses
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00:18:18,183 --> 00:18:19,600
on a regular basis,
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00:18:19,725 --> 00:18:21,433
and she was kicking
with her hind legs
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at the enclosure, screaming.
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00:18:23,267 --> 00:18:24,808
So they've called in
Skinwalker Ranch
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expert Guy Blocker to conduct
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a thermal temperature test
for signs of an anomaly.
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00:18:35,892 --> 00:18:37,600
Guy, I really appreciate
you comin' out
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on a cold night
to be part of this.
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Now, and you had
an extraordinary
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- experience at Skinwalker...
- Yes, I did.
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00:18:43,808 --> 00:18:45,142
Out at the old homestead.
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00:18:45,267 --> 00:18:46,767
Yeah, that was
really interesting.
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00:18:46,892 --> 00:18:48,683
Okay, guys, I have all
the cameras on record,
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00:18:48,808 --> 00:18:50,100
so we're recording right now.
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In my experience with thermal,
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I normally experience
temperature changes
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where if there's
a physical entity
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steps in, temperatures go up.
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I was expecting a decrease,
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00:18:59,308 --> 00:19:01,433
and instead
we saw an 11 degree increase.
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00:19:01,558 --> 00:19:03,392
Look at the screen.
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00:19:03,475 --> 00:19:06,642
Just seconds after
the recording began to play,
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00:19:06,767 --> 00:19:08,600
there was an obvious rise
in temperature
499
00:19:08,683 --> 00:19:10,850
being shown across
the thermal camera feed.
500
00:19:10,975 --> 00:19:12,600
Just like a switch got flipped.
501
00:19:12,725 --> 00:19:14,892
So, to make this
the most viable,
502
00:19:15,017 --> 00:19:17,100
scientifically relevant
experiment we can,
503
00:19:17,183 --> 00:19:19,433
we want to follow
the same sequence of events.
504
00:19:19,517 --> 00:19:20,767
What's our trigger?
505
00:19:20,892 --> 00:19:22,975
We've got
a 1.6 gigahertz frequency
506
00:19:23,142 --> 00:19:25,558
that we're gonna play here,
and that's similar to something
507
00:19:25,642 --> 00:19:27,392
they detected there
at Skinwalker.
508
00:19:27,517 --> 00:19:28,933
Right.
509
00:19:29,058 --> 00:19:30,975
Since the Skinwalker experiment
510
00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:33,892
played an audio signal to
stimulate a rise in temperature,
511
00:19:33,975 --> 00:19:36,142
the team plans
to play back the audio
512
00:19:36,308 --> 00:19:40,267
of the 1.6 gigahertz signal
recorded at Skinwalker Ranch.
513
00:19:40,350 --> 00:19:44,225
This 1.6 gigahertz frequency
repeatedly shows up
514
00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:47,350
at Skinwalker,
accompanied by high strangeness.
515
00:19:47,475 --> 00:19:50,558
If any temperature fluctuations
happen near the corral,
516
00:19:50,683 --> 00:19:54,142
they'll be pinpointed by
Guy Blocker's thermal cameras.
517
00:19:54,308 --> 00:19:58,225
These fluctuations could be
further evidence of an anomaly.
518
00:19:58,308 --> 00:19:59,933
My thought is we aim
that crosshair
519
00:20:00,017 --> 00:20:01,225
in the center of the corral.
520
00:20:01,308 --> 00:20:02,933
That's a good place
to start, right?
521
00:20:03,017 --> 00:20:04,683
We also have your traditional
522
00:20:04,808 --> 00:20:07,558
analog-style thermometers
hangin' up on the fence.
523
00:20:07,642 --> 00:20:09,159
This is giving us
multiple data points.
524
00:20:09,183 --> 00:20:10,583
I think we're
ready for our trigger.
525
00:20:10,642 --> 00:20:12,308
- Yeah.
- Let's give it a try.
526
00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:16,225
As you can see,
right now we're at 28.2.
527
00:20:16,308 --> 00:20:18,683
- Our high is 38.6.
- High is 38,
528
00:20:18,808 --> 00:20:20,488
and that's the tree line
behind the corral.
529
00:20:20,517 --> 00:20:23,433
- Perfect. Start the audio?
- I'm ready when you are, man.
530
00:20:35,183 --> 00:20:36,725
All right, there's our signal.
531
00:20:49,267 --> 00:20:51,933
Everything looks like
it's holding steady here.
532
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,142
The noise
is just not what it was.
533
00:21:13,267 --> 00:21:15,433
It's weird.
It goes in and out.
534
00:21:15,517 --> 00:21:18,850
It's so much quieter than
it was when we first played it.
535
00:21:20,058 --> 00:21:21,933
I don't know why it's so low.
536
00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:24,558
- The volume.
- No, it's ma...
537
00:21:24,683 --> 00:21:26,058
I mean, maximum volume.
538
00:21:32,975 --> 00:21:34,433
All right, I think
all we can get now
539
00:21:34,558 --> 00:21:35,767
is a few seconds of your time.
540
00:21:35,892 --> 00:21:37,683
Right.
541
00:21:37,808 --> 00:21:39,433
Paul, it's shifting on us.
542
00:21:39,558 --> 00:21:41,058
Yeah.
543
00:21:41,183 --> 00:21:42,767
PAUL, ANDY: What was that?
544
00:21:42,850 --> 00:21:44,392
The temperature went up.
545
00:21:44,475 --> 00:21:46,600
It just did it again.
546
00:21:46,725 --> 00:21:47,892
That's really weird.
547
00:21:47,975 --> 00:21:50,142
39.8, 32.
548
00:21:55,725 --> 00:21:57,350
We're comin' up on 40 over here.
549
00:21:57,475 --> 00:22:01,058
Yep. Every time the audio
comes back on, it does it.
550
00:22:01,183 --> 00:22:03,642
It's happened faster,
but it's not unlike
551
00:22:03,767 --> 00:22:05,868
what happened at Homestead
where we had that increase.
552
00:22:05,892 --> 00:22:07,600
That was a drastic change.
553
00:22:07,725 --> 00:22:09,100
That was weird.
554
00:22:09,225 --> 00:22:12,433
Watching the temperature
increase five degrees
555
00:22:12,517 --> 00:22:15,683
while nothing else has changed
except for the playing
556
00:22:15,808 --> 00:22:18,100
of a 1.6 gigahertz
communication signal,
557
00:22:18,183 --> 00:22:20,433
seeing the environment
react to that
558
00:22:20,517 --> 00:22:22,808
is just something
that leaves you speechless.
559
00:22:22,933 --> 00:22:24,933
I mean,
wouldn't you expect to see just
560
00:22:25,017 --> 00:22:26,350
a steadily dropping temperature?
561
00:22:26,475 --> 00:22:28,933
Yes, I would,
because as, you know, as...
562
00:22:29,017 --> 00:22:31,308
As the night goes on,
we're losing more and more heat.
563
00:22:31,475 --> 00:22:33,784
Because we have a clear sky, so
there's nothing holding it in.
564
00:22:33,808 --> 00:22:35,100
Clear sky and it's quite still.
565
00:22:35,267 --> 00:22:36,850
I mean, there might
be elevated breeze,
566
00:22:36,975 --> 00:22:38,284
but there's not
much movement down here.
567
00:22:38,308 --> 00:22:39,975
This is not unlike what happened
568
00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:41,975
at Homestead where
we had an 11-degree increase
569
00:22:42,142 --> 00:22:44,017
in the space of, like,
a couple of minutes.
570
00:22:44,142 --> 00:22:46,392
Whereas with this,
it went up about five degrees
571
00:22:46,517 --> 00:22:48,850
and then it's
slowly coming back down.
572
00:22:48,975 --> 00:22:51,183
We're hundreds of miles
from Skinwalker Ranch,
573
00:22:51,308 --> 00:22:53,017
replicating as closely as we can
574
00:22:53,142 --> 00:22:57,017
the same experiments,
and seeing similar results.
575
00:22:57,142 --> 00:22:59,267
You can't ignore it.
Something happened here.
576
00:22:59,392 --> 00:23:01,975
Why would this
audio trigger that spike?
577
00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:03,683
I don't think
this was gonna happen
578
00:23:03,808 --> 00:23:05,475
if we did it in...
In our backyard.
579
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,808
If it did, I'd move.
580
00:23:06,975 --> 00:23:08,725
Yeah. Exactly.
581
00:23:08,850 --> 00:23:12,017
Guy, we've seen this now
in Skinwalker Ranch with you,
582
00:23:12,142 --> 00:23:14,058
we've seen this now
in Bradshaw Ranch.
583
00:23:14,183 --> 00:23:16,725
Is this kind of activity
something you see regularly?
584
00:23:16,850 --> 00:23:18,451
No, it's only when
I hang out with you guys
585
00:23:18,475 --> 00:23:19,975
that this kind of
thing happens to me.
586
00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:21,642
I'm bringin' you along
587
00:23:21,767 --> 00:23:23,142
more often, my man.
588
00:23:23,267 --> 00:23:24,618
No, seriously though,
thank you, Guy.
589
00:23:24,642 --> 00:23:25,850
We got somethin' here
590
00:23:25,975 --> 00:23:27,392
- to push further.
- Yeah. I...
591
00:23:27,475 --> 00:23:29,183
I think it requires
further investigation.
592
00:23:34,975 --> 00:23:36,308
I don't know about you, Andy,
593
00:23:36,475 --> 00:23:38,225
but I feel like we're off
to a great start.
594
00:23:38,308 --> 00:23:40,028
We've gotten
some really interesting results
595
00:23:40,142 --> 00:23:42,017
really right off the bat.
596
00:23:42,142 --> 00:23:44,201
Every time we've broken out
a new set of instruments,
597
00:23:44,225 --> 00:23:46,100
we've gotten
something surprising.
598
00:23:46,225 --> 00:23:48,267
Yeah, you see it
radiating into the sky?
599
00:23:48,350 --> 00:23:50,100
Starting with the radiological.
600
00:23:50,225 --> 00:23:53,100
Why is there
organic radiation in the sky?
601
00:23:53,225 --> 00:23:54,725
What is that
that we're lookin' at?
602
00:23:54,808 --> 00:23:56,100
I don't know.
603
00:23:56,183 --> 00:23:57,808
What we saw with Casey,
604
00:23:57,933 --> 00:23:59,451
I was not expecting
anything like that.
605
00:23:59,475 --> 00:24:01,850
Casey wasn't
expecting anything like that.
606
00:24:01,975 --> 00:24:03,451
And then
the thermal test that we ran.
607
00:24:03,475 --> 00:24:05,892
That's five degrees
of change with nothing
608
00:24:05,975 --> 00:24:08,142
to trigger it
except for a sound.
609
00:24:08,267 --> 00:24:10,433
Something brought
that temperature up.
610
00:24:10,517 --> 00:24:12,142
What was that?
611
00:24:12,267 --> 00:24:13,892
The temperature went up.
612
00:24:13,975 --> 00:24:15,892
It just did it again.
613
00:24:15,975 --> 00:24:17,767
- It just did it.
- That's really weird.
614
00:24:17,892 --> 00:24:19,392
We've been able
to replicate some
615
00:24:19,475 --> 00:24:21,243
of the same outcomes that
they had at Skinwalker,
616
00:24:21,267 --> 00:24:22,600
which is what
we came here to do.
617
00:24:22,725 --> 00:24:25,142
Was to repeat, test,
replicate and measure.
618
00:24:25,267 --> 00:24:28,600
I think one of the next things
to do is to try to bring in
619
00:24:28,725 --> 00:24:32,142
some of the laser testing
that they've done at Skinwalker.
620
00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:34,767
On Skinwalker Ranch,
621
00:24:34,892 --> 00:24:36,350
the team from Nu-Salt Laser
622
00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:38,267
has conducted
several experiments
623
00:24:38,392 --> 00:24:40,183
to try to stimulate anomalies...
624
00:24:40,308 --> 00:24:42,225
Holy cow. Look at that.
625
00:24:42,308 --> 00:24:44,933
which resulted
in a correlating U.A.P. sighting
626
00:24:45,058 --> 00:24:46,225
in 2021.
627
00:24:46,308 --> 00:24:47,433
- You see this?
- Yeah.
628
00:24:47,517 --> 00:24:49,100
What the crap is that?
629
00:24:49,225 --> 00:24:50,558
Unbelievable.
630
00:24:50,642 --> 00:24:52,267
Now, Andy and Paul want to see
631
00:24:52,392 --> 00:24:54,975
what effect that same technology
will have
632
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:56,767
at Bradshaw Ranch.
633
00:24:56,892 --> 00:25:01,892
As far as a starting point,
where Bob Bradshaw saw a U.F.O.,
634
00:25:01,975 --> 00:25:03,433
you know,
slide down that hillside.
635
00:25:03,558 --> 00:25:08,142
We saw this spaceship
traveling fast
636
00:25:08,308 --> 00:25:10,642
down that hillside
and right into the ranch.
637
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:13,159
I agree. I think that's
a perfect place to start.
638
00:25:13,183 --> 00:25:14,433
It's centrally located.
639
00:25:14,558 --> 00:25:16,558
We've had some great data,
but there's still
640
00:25:16,683 --> 00:25:18,723
a lot of questions out there
that we need to answer.
641
00:25:18,808 --> 00:25:20,868
Yeah, we've got some answers,
there are a lot more questions,
642
00:25:20,892 --> 00:25:22,642
- we've got more work to do.
- Absolutely.
643
00:25:22,767 --> 00:25:24,933
We're gonna fire up
the laser and see what happens.
644
00:25:25,017 --> 00:25:26,475
I agree, let's do that.
645
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:35,017
With their next
plan of attack focused
646
00:25:35,142 --> 00:25:36,975
on the ridge
where Bob Bradshaw had
647
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:38,933
his infamous U.F.O. sighting,
648
00:25:39,058 --> 00:25:40,808
along with
John and Mason Bradshaw,
649
00:25:40,933 --> 00:25:43,600
Andy and Paul have
called in Skinwalker Ranch
650
00:25:43,725 --> 00:25:46,642
laser experts,
Tim Anderson and Jeremy Fenton,
651
00:25:46,767 --> 00:25:48,767
to help with
their next experiment.
652
00:25:48,892 --> 00:25:50,433
That looks like a good spot.
653
00:25:50,558 --> 00:25:52,517
Guys, thank you
so much for comin' out.
654
00:25:52,642 --> 00:25:55,267
So, these guys
at Skinwalker have shot lasers,
655
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:56,850
- what, at the ridge?
- Yup.
656
00:25:56,975 --> 00:25:58,308
Up into the sky?
657
00:25:58,433 --> 00:26:00,193
What have you got for us?
What did you bring?
658
00:26:00,308 --> 00:26:02,433
We want to run a lot
of the same kind of tests,
659
00:26:02,517 --> 00:26:04,600
and more, like you've
been doin' at Skinwalker.
660
00:26:04,725 --> 00:26:08,017
So we brought with us
two laser light show projectors,
661
00:26:08,142 --> 00:26:10,183
and we're gonna do
a raster scan.
662
00:26:10,308 --> 00:26:12,100
So, it's really
just gonna illuminate
663
00:26:12,183 --> 00:26:14,433
this whole area with laser.
664
00:26:14,558 --> 00:26:16,642
In this experiment,
the laser will scan
665
00:26:16,808 --> 00:26:19,433
the ridge from side to side
and top to bottom.
666
00:26:19,558 --> 00:26:22,267
By adding light energy
to the environment,
667
00:26:22,392 --> 00:26:24,517
the hope is
to stimulate an anomaly,
668
00:26:24,642 --> 00:26:27,933
or the beams
could detect a U.A.P.
669
00:26:28,058 --> 00:26:30,058
by bending or disappearing
670
00:26:30,183 --> 00:26:32,433
while refracting
off the unknown object.
671
00:26:32,517 --> 00:26:34,767
So, we not only have
this sighting
672
00:26:34,892 --> 00:26:36,058
that happened in this area,
673
00:26:36,142 --> 00:26:37,517
but we've also had some strange
674
00:26:37,642 --> 00:26:39,308
thermal readings
in that direction.
675
00:26:39,433 --> 00:26:41,683
We've had some radiation
anomalies that have happened
676
00:26:41,808 --> 00:26:43,433
over the ranch house
in this direction.
677
00:26:43,558 --> 00:26:46,433
This location gives us
a really central spot
678
00:26:46,558 --> 00:26:48,183
to set up the laser arrays here
679
00:26:48,308 --> 00:26:49,725
and shine them
in that direction.
680
00:26:49,808 --> 00:26:51,933
I think it's time
to poke the hornet's nest.
681
00:26:52,017 --> 00:26:53,433
See what we find.
682
00:26:54,725 --> 00:26:56,808
In addition
to the laser technology,
683
00:26:56,933 --> 00:26:58,517
Andy and Paul are also deploying
684
00:26:58,642 --> 00:27:01,808
multiple scientific tools
to monitor the area.
685
00:27:01,933 --> 00:27:04,017
So, we've got kind of
a cool treat for you guys.
686
00:27:04,142 --> 00:27:05,767
- Yeah.
- This is a new piece
687
00:27:05,892 --> 00:27:07,600
of equipment called a UFODAP.
688
00:27:07,683 --> 00:27:09,308
It's essentially
a piece of equipment
689
00:27:09,433 --> 00:27:11,308
that puts nonstop eyes
on the sky.
690
00:27:11,433 --> 00:27:14,142
Actively monitoring from
two different base stations,
691
00:27:14,308 --> 00:27:16,433
it's able to search
what the air traffic is,
692
00:27:16,558 --> 00:27:18,642
so that once it zones in
on a target,
693
00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:20,517
it'll track that target
through the sky.
694
00:27:20,642 --> 00:27:22,600
These are
basically robot cameras.
695
00:27:22,683 --> 00:27:24,643
If they see anything
that isn't a bird or a plane,
696
00:27:24,808 --> 00:27:26,433
they're gonna lock on it,
and then we can
697
00:27:26,558 --> 00:27:28,225
analyze all that data afterward.
698
00:27:28,308 --> 00:27:30,348
Really looking forward
to seeing how all this works.
699
00:27:30,433 --> 00:27:31,808
So I'm gonna move this one
700
00:27:31,975 --> 00:27:33,534
a little farther over
into this clearing.
701
00:27:33,558 --> 00:27:35,350
It's actually got a good shot
of the hill
702
00:27:35,475 --> 00:27:37,600
- and the sky behind us.
- Great. And this guy
703
00:27:37,683 --> 00:27:39,643
is gonna head over here
closest to the laser show.
704
00:27:39,683 --> 00:27:41,683
- Perfect.
- Kinda want these
705
00:27:41,808 --> 00:27:44,183
to sit on top of each other,
but maybe a little bit higher.
706
00:27:44,308 --> 00:27:45,326
- Try that.
- FLIR should be up
707
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:46,725
on a monitor now, Andy.
708
00:27:46,808 --> 00:27:48,308
- You got it, Paul.
- Excellent.
709
00:27:48,433 --> 00:27:50,017
Both UFODAPS are scanning.
710
00:27:50,142 --> 00:27:51,767
So, what we have first
are the UFODAP.
711
00:27:51,850 --> 00:27:53,933
We codenamed them
Hunter and Tracker.
712
00:27:54,058 --> 00:27:57,142
So here, Hunter's on the bottom,
cued into his piece of sky.
713
00:27:57,267 --> 00:27:58,767
Tracker is over here,
714
00:27:58,850 --> 00:28:01,100
and they're actively monitoring
right now.
715
00:28:01,183 --> 00:28:03,475
Here we have
the FLIR thermal camera.
716
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,600
It's actively monitoring
this ridgeline
717
00:28:05,683 --> 00:28:08,517
and the area from
the ground up to the sky.
718
00:28:08,642 --> 00:28:11,100
And then lastly,
we have active tracking
719
00:28:11,183 --> 00:28:12,808
of our radio signals
in the area.
720
00:28:12,933 --> 00:28:16,225
So, we'll be actively monitoring
the entire radio spectrum
721
00:28:16,350 --> 00:28:18,076
while we're going through
the experimentation today.
722
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:20,642
I think we have all of the
hardware and software set up.
723
00:28:20,808 --> 00:28:22,975
I think the only thing left
is to wait for nightfall.
724
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:24,225
Exactly.
725
00:28:31,183 --> 00:28:32,433
We've got everything set up.
726
00:28:32,558 --> 00:28:34,058
I'm ready to go.
You guys ready to go?
727
00:28:34,183 --> 00:28:35,725
- Let's get to it.
- Absolutely.
728
00:28:35,850 --> 00:28:37,183
Andy and Paul
729
00:28:37,308 --> 00:28:39,600
have brought in
Skinwalker Ranch laser experts
730
00:28:39,683 --> 00:28:43,267
Tim Anderson and Jeremy Fenton
to try to stimulate an anomaly
731
00:28:43,392 --> 00:28:46,600
at the ridge where
Bob Bradshaw spotted a U.F.O.
732
00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:49,058
They've also set up
their own tech
733
00:28:49,142 --> 00:28:50,600
to help them monitor the area
734
00:28:50,725 --> 00:28:52,767
during the laser light
experiment.
735
00:28:52,892 --> 00:28:55,475
I'm gonna arm the UFODAPs
so they start scanning the sky.
736
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,183
After that,
we want you to make sure
737
00:28:57,308 --> 00:28:58,933
that we hit the FLIR,
and once we have
738
00:28:59,058 --> 00:29:01,475
all three devices rolling,
we turn it over to you guys.
739
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,017
- Okay.
- Ready to rock?
740
00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:04,142
- All right.
- Yes.
741
00:29:04,267 --> 00:29:06,308
We're live on Hunter.
742
00:29:08,142 --> 00:29:10,308
We're live on Tracker.
743
00:29:10,475 --> 00:29:12,017
Both UFODAPs are scanning.
744
00:29:12,142 --> 00:29:17,267
Temp steady so far.
Our high is 36.8, low 22.4.
745
00:29:17,392 --> 00:29:19,392
- Lasers ready.
- Let's do it.
746
00:29:19,475 --> 00:29:21,058
All right, everybody,
here we go.
747
00:29:21,142 --> 00:29:25,308
Three, two, one, hit it.
748
00:29:27,808 --> 00:29:29,600
- Nice.
- Look at that.
749
00:29:30,808 --> 00:29:32,808
Remember, we've gotten reports
not just in the sky,
750
00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:34,433
- but also in the woods.
- Yup.
751
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,142
In the wash.
752
00:29:36,267 --> 00:29:38,433
We've got to keep our eyes
all around.
753
00:29:38,517 --> 00:29:40,308
As we're
carrying out this experiment,
754
00:29:40,433 --> 00:29:42,475
we're trying to paint
this hillside with energy,
755
00:29:42,642 --> 00:29:45,267
trying to recreate
or trigger something
756
00:29:45,433 --> 00:29:47,600
along the lines
of what Bob Bradshaw saw.
757
00:29:47,725 --> 00:29:49,558
What is the range of that?
758
00:29:49,683 --> 00:29:53,267
These lasers are good
for about a mile to two miles.
759
00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:55,100
It all depends
on the atmosphere.
760
00:29:55,183 --> 00:29:56,558
We don't really have any clouds,
761
00:29:56,642 --> 00:29:58,600
so it's gonna continue
into space.
762
00:29:58,683 --> 00:30:00,923
Paul, I'm gonna start scanning
some of these frequencies.
763
00:30:01,683 --> 00:30:03,808
We're expecting to see
some U.H.F. traffic,
764
00:30:03,933 --> 00:30:05,892
but anything that's anomalous,
this will pick up
765
00:30:05,975 --> 00:30:08,392
and we'll be able to hone in
and listen to the signal.
766
00:30:08,475 --> 00:30:10,517
Got it.
767
00:30:12,225 --> 00:30:14,475
So, this is the kind
of spike that we're looking for.
768
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,267
That's interesting. That shows
it's an active transmission.
769
00:30:17,392 --> 00:30:18,850
- See how tall it is?
- Yeah.
770
00:30:18,975 --> 00:30:20,433
So, I'm gonna see if we can
771
00:30:20,517 --> 00:30:22,142
identify the right bandwidth
772
00:30:22,267 --> 00:30:23,892
to actually
listen in to the signal.
773
00:30:23,975 --> 00:30:25,576
So, you're saying
that's a local transmission
774
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,058
of some kind
that we're picking up?
775
00:30:27,183 --> 00:30:28,517
Correct.
776
00:30:30,933 --> 00:30:33,267
Let me hear it.
Come on.
777
00:30:35,808 --> 00:30:37,017
Come on.
778
00:30:37,933 --> 00:30:40,392
I'm gonna take this
one hertz at a time.
779
00:30:41,267 --> 00:30:42,975
We're zooming in on the signal.
780
00:30:47,642 --> 00:30:51,183
There she is. At 1.6 gigahertz.
781
00:30:51,308 --> 00:30:53,892
1.6 is what they see
at Skinwalker.
782
00:30:53,975 --> 00:30:55,683
Correct.
We're not sending anything.
783
00:30:55,808 --> 00:30:58,308
No,
we are not transmitting that.
784
00:30:58,475 --> 00:31:00,142
We are picking up the signal.
785
00:31:02,350 --> 00:31:03,850
- You see that?
- It just did it again.
786
00:31:03,975 --> 00:31:05,683
Like a pulse.
There it is again!
787
00:31:05,808 --> 00:31:07,642
- Yeah.
- Right there.
788
00:31:07,767 --> 00:31:09,451
Whoa, that's the biggest
one we've seen so far.
789
00:31:09,475 --> 00:31:11,642
The fact that we're seeing
this transmission
790
00:31:11,767 --> 00:31:14,058
when we were not seeing this
transmission earlier
791
00:31:14,142 --> 00:31:15,767
is significant.
792
00:31:15,850 --> 00:31:18,850
This mysterious
1.6 gigahertz signal
793
00:31:18,975 --> 00:31:21,517
pops up again and again
during active experimentations
794
00:31:21,642 --> 00:31:23,058
on Skinwalker Ranch.
795
00:31:23,142 --> 00:31:24,558
Hey, hey, hey, it's here.
796
00:31:24,683 --> 00:31:26,767
We've got that 1.6 thing.
797
00:31:26,892 --> 00:31:28,683
We're clearly getting' a signal.
798
00:31:29,850 --> 00:31:32,017
Now, what's interesting is
a signal of this strength,
799
00:31:32,142 --> 00:31:33,517
1.6 gigahertz,
800
00:31:33,642 --> 00:31:35,933
is an interstellar
communication signal.
801
00:31:36,058 --> 00:31:38,475
Anybody on earth
who is a professional
802
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,475
treats 1.6
as a privileged frequency
803
00:31:41,642 --> 00:31:43,517
that's only used
for communication
804
00:31:43,642 --> 00:31:45,683
from earth to space
and space to earth.
805
00:31:46,808 --> 00:31:49,767
It's coming to us
from space. Is that right?
806
00:31:49,850 --> 00:31:52,392
That's... that's right.
The only thing I can think of.
807
00:31:52,475 --> 00:31:53,850
These are radio frequencies
808
00:31:53,975 --> 00:31:56,267
that are available
only to the military to co-opt.
809
00:31:56,350 --> 00:31:58,142
So, could it be a satellite?
810
00:31:58,267 --> 00:32:00,683
If it was a satellite
signal, it would come and go.
811
00:32:00,808 --> 00:32:02,642
It's not energy efficient
for a satellite
812
00:32:02,767 --> 00:32:04,100
to constantly transmit.
813
00:32:04,267 --> 00:32:05,600
Instead,
they have scheduled times
814
00:32:05,725 --> 00:32:07,445
and scheduled locations
where they transmit.
815
00:32:07,475 --> 00:32:08,933
That way, as they
go around the earth
816
00:32:09,058 --> 00:32:11,100
they send their signal,
receiver picks it up,
817
00:32:11,225 --> 00:32:14,100
and then they can store energy
for the next rotation.
818
00:32:14,975 --> 00:32:17,100
I can't help but think
that the lasers have had
819
00:32:17,267 --> 00:32:18,493
something to do with this, Paul.
820
00:32:18,517 --> 00:32:19,933
I don't know what else it
could be.
821
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:21,225
We are pumping
822
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:22,517
all this light energy out
823
00:32:22,642 --> 00:32:24,642
out onto the hillside
with our lasers,
824
00:32:24,808 --> 00:32:26,433
and the spectrum analyzer
825
00:32:26,558 --> 00:32:28,433
is picking up
all kinds of crazy frequencies.
826
00:32:28,517 --> 00:32:30,642
The same place
that Bob Bradshaw saw
827
00:32:30,767 --> 00:32:33,600
that U.F.O. so many years ago.
828
00:32:33,725 --> 00:32:35,808
Something has to be causing
all that to happen.
829
00:32:35,933 --> 00:32:39,017
Is it the lasers?
It's certainly a possibility.
830
00:32:39,142 --> 00:32:41,433
With so many anomalies
happening at the same time,
831
00:32:41,558 --> 00:32:42,933
it's hard to keep up
with them all.
832
00:32:43,058 --> 00:32:45,392
I kind of want
to just embrace this.
833
00:32:47,267 --> 00:32:48,892
What was that?
834
00:32:55,267 --> 00:32:56,392
- Another one?
- Right there.
835
00:32:56,517 --> 00:32:57,534
There it is. Look at that.
836
00:32:57,558 --> 00:32:59,142
Look at that, look at that.
837
00:32:59,308 --> 00:33:00,725
What is that?
838
00:33:00,850 --> 00:33:02,475
That's the UFODAP
doin' it's job.
839
00:33:02,642 --> 00:33:04,392
That small square,
that small red square
840
00:33:04,475 --> 00:33:05,683
is where it's zoomed in.
841
00:33:05,808 --> 00:33:07,475
Aw, it just left...
842
00:33:07,642 --> 00:33:09,600
It's...
Check it out. Look over here.
843
00:33:09,725 --> 00:33:11,642
Paul, look at that!
It's getting more intense.
844
00:33:11,767 --> 00:33:13,892
Look at how bright it is.
What is that thing?
845
00:33:13,975 --> 00:33:15,767
That is zoomed in
846
00:33:15,892 --> 00:33:18,267
on an object in the sky
that fits the definitions
847
00:33:18,433 --> 00:33:20,558
for an anomaly.
848
00:33:20,642 --> 00:33:22,082
I'm freakin' out.
Look at that thing.
849
00:33:22,142 --> 00:33:23,600
And it passed through Hunter
850
00:33:23,725 --> 00:33:25,267
and into Tracker's
line of sight,
851
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:26,933
and it was recorded.
852
00:33:27,058 --> 00:33:29,034
All right, so this is the hit
that Hunter picked up.
853
00:33:29,058 --> 00:33:31,267
- Flickers in and out.
- Look at that.
854
00:33:31,392 --> 00:33:33,767
Whoa, whoa, whoa, can you
scroll back and slow that down?
855
00:33:33,892 --> 00:33:35,692
There it is. Look at
that shape. What is that?
856
00:33:35,808 --> 00:33:37,600
I think it picks
it up right about here.
857
00:33:37,725 --> 00:33:39,433
Let's bring up
the second camera.
858
00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:41,808
Yep, same thing
on the other camera.
859
00:33:41,975 --> 00:33:44,267
I mean, the movement
is faster than a plane would be,
860
00:33:44,392 --> 00:33:47,517
and those lights are not
flickering in the same pattern.
861
00:33:47,642 --> 00:33:49,850
I mean,
you were in the Air Force.
862
00:33:49,975 --> 00:33:52,850
You ever seen anything that
has this sort of light pattern?
863
00:33:52,975 --> 00:33:55,517
What I know, Paul,
is that aircraft
864
00:33:55,642 --> 00:33:57,767
are required
to have two colored lights,
865
00:33:57,850 --> 00:33:59,225
a green light and a red light.
866
00:33:59,308 --> 00:34:01,225
If they're landing,
they have landing lights,
867
00:34:01,308 --> 00:34:02,600
which are a bright white light.
868
00:34:02,725 --> 00:34:05,225
What we just saw
had no colored lights
869
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:07,558
and it had multiple
flickering white lights only.
870
00:34:07,642 --> 00:34:09,433
Like it's tumbling,
and those lights
871
00:34:09,517 --> 00:34:11,892
are flickering
as it goes around.
872
00:34:11,975 --> 00:34:15,100
When it's frozen there,
there are two distinct sources
873
00:34:15,225 --> 00:34:19,183
of light, and then when
it flickers, it is very bright.
874
00:34:19,892 --> 00:34:21,600
- Boom.
- That's almost explosive.
875
00:34:21,683 --> 00:34:23,100
It's pulsing.
876
00:34:23,225 --> 00:34:27,558
This is a U.A.P.
There's no question about it.
877
00:34:28,267 --> 00:34:32,767
All at the same site
where Bob, your dad,
878
00:34:32,850 --> 00:34:36,850
reported having an alien
spacecraft hover over his head.
879
00:34:37,975 --> 00:34:39,600
I have come
into this entire experience
880
00:34:39,725 --> 00:34:41,100
with an open mind.
881
00:34:41,267 --> 00:34:42,683
I am a skeptic by nature,
882
00:34:42,808 --> 00:34:43,933
I'm a skeptic by training.
883
00:34:44,058 --> 00:34:45,892
It's part of my profession.
884
00:34:46,017 --> 00:34:49,308
However, when you have
an experience like we've had,
885
00:34:49,433 --> 00:34:50,975
you have to step back
886
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:53,767
and sort of reevaluate
all your assumptions.
887
00:34:53,892 --> 00:34:56,725
We could be on to something here
that's really extraordinary.
888
00:34:56,850 --> 00:34:59,767
I can't wait
to show this to Erik and Travis
889
00:34:59,892 --> 00:35:01,052
and see what they make of it.
890
00:35:05,725 --> 00:35:07,100
I am absolutely hooked
891
00:35:07,225 --> 00:35:08,600
on this kind
of investigation now.
892
00:35:08,725 --> 00:35:11,517
I see why
you just can't let it go.
893
00:35:11,642 --> 00:35:13,433
We've got some really
interesting stuff
894
00:35:13,558 --> 00:35:15,100
to show you,
and we're excited to hear
895
00:35:15,225 --> 00:35:17,808
what you think
about what we found.
896
00:35:17,933 --> 00:35:19,693
So, I think what we're
gonna start with here,
897
00:35:19,725 --> 00:35:21,600
what Andy has cued up,
is where Bob
898
00:35:21,683 --> 00:35:23,267
experienced the U.F.O.
going overhead
899
00:35:23,392 --> 00:35:26,350
of the ridge
and then disappearing behind it.
900
00:35:26,475 --> 00:35:28,975
Because we were in an area
of a suspected U.F.O. sighting,
901
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:31,183
we also deployed our UFODAP
for the first time.
902
00:35:31,308 --> 00:35:32,828
- Good.
- And here's what they captured
903
00:35:32,933 --> 00:35:35,058
during the same time
as our experiment.
904
00:35:35,142 --> 00:35:37,600
So, this is the UFODAP
locking into something strange.
905
00:35:37,683 --> 00:35:39,767
You can see the flashing.
906
00:35:39,892 --> 00:35:41,808
Whatever it is,
it's movin' fast.
907
00:35:41,933 --> 00:35:43,475
Now, what caught us immediately
908
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,308
is that there were plenty
of aircraft in the air flying,
909
00:35:46,433 --> 00:35:47,725
but they didn't look like this.
910
00:35:47,808 --> 00:35:49,201
They have a specific
pulsating flash,
911
00:35:49,225 --> 00:35:51,433
they have red lights
and green lights on them.
912
00:35:51,558 --> 00:35:52,975
Let me show you
what an airplane...
913
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:54,951
This is our control video
for what it looks like
914
00:35:54,975 --> 00:35:56,892
when the UFODAP
captures an airplane.
915
00:35:57,017 --> 00:35:58,642
You can see
that steady flashing light.
916
00:35:58,808 --> 00:36:00,350
- Sure.
- Once it passes through,
917
00:36:00,475 --> 00:36:02,558
- it just ignores it.
- But here, the UFODAP
918
00:36:02,642 --> 00:36:04,118
was catching something
that did not look
919
00:36:04,142 --> 00:36:05,600
like your traditional aircraft,
920
00:36:05,683 --> 00:36:07,100
especially here
where it zoomed in
921
00:36:07,225 --> 00:36:09,017
and actually identified
what looked like
922
00:36:09,142 --> 00:36:11,600
two sources of light
in a tumbling object.
923
00:36:11,725 --> 00:36:13,308
It's very interesting.
924
00:36:13,433 --> 00:36:15,100
Do you believe
that the U.F.O. activity
925
00:36:15,225 --> 00:36:17,600
was triggered
by some of your experiments
926
00:36:17,683 --> 00:36:19,267
or your activity in the area?
927
00:36:19,392 --> 00:36:21,600
What we know is that
they happened at the same time.
928
00:36:21,683 --> 00:36:23,142
They correlated. We don't know
929
00:36:23,267 --> 00:36:24,808
about the connections
between them.
930
00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:26,733
That's the right word to use.
They correlated.
931
00:36:26,808 --> 00:36:28,308
I can't help but to notice
932
00:36:28,433 --> 00:36:31,475
the distinct difference between
the conventional aircraft
933
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,100
and the U.F.O.
934
00:36:33,225 --> 00:36:34,892
Yeah, it's unmistakable.
935
00:36:34,975 --> 00:36:36,975
So, we also identified
some strange behavior
936
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:38,850
at 1.6 gigahertz
at the same time
937
00:36:38,975 --> 00:36:40,743
we were running our
experiment in the open field.
938
00:36:40,767 --> 00:36:42,892
And what we ended up
being able to do was hear
939
00:36:42,975 --> 00:36:44,975
similar transmission
to what you recorded here
940
00:36:45,142 --> 00:36:46,850
on Skinwalker Ranch
on that 1.6 gigahertz.
941
00:36:46,975 --> 00:36:49,308
I think what we want to do
is get you that data file.
942
00:36:49,475 --> 00:36:51,826
You guys can run it and compare
it to what you're hearing here
943
00:36:51,850 --> 00:36:53,725
and see, is it the same,
how it's different.
944
00:36:53,850 --> 00:36:56,267
I'm really interested
in your characterization
945
00:36:56,392 --> 00:36:57,933
of that signal as strange.
946
00:36:58,017 --> 00:37:00,642
We'll take a look
and see how strange it is.
947
00:37:00,767 --> 00:37:02,207
I want to add
another dimension here.
948
00:37:02,267 --> 00:37:03,808
I was gonna say this...
There's more.
949
00:37:03,933 --> 00:37:05,308
Wait, there's more!
950
00:37:05,433 --> 00:37:06,725
There's more.
951
00:37:06,808 --> 00:37:08,808
So, what I want to share here...
952
00:37:08,933 --> 00:37:11,267
So if you recall, we had
Casey Smith from Qualtech
953
00:37:11,433 --> 00:37:13,933
come out and assist us
with some radiation surveys
954
00:37:14,017 --> 00:37:15,850
and help to keep us all safe.
955
00:37:15,975 --> 00:37:18,034
Now, he also brought out
with him a new piece of tech,
956
00:37:18,058 --> 00:37:19,826
something called a gamma cam,
that was designed
957
00:37:19,850 --> 00:37:22,850
to track, in real time,
radiation levels.
958
00:37:22,975 --> 00:37:24,600
So this is
an imaging capability?
959
00:37:24,683 --> 00:37:26,350
- Correct.
- Wow, nice.
960
00:37:26,475 --> 00:37:28,517
- We need that at Homestead too.
- I want that.
961
00:37:28,642 --> 00:37:31,183
Now, here we're actually
touring the Old West town.
962
00:37:31,308 --> 00:37:32,808
At first, we got really excited
963
00:37:32,933 --> 00:37:34,767
about all this elevated
radiation energy
964
00:37:34,892 --> 00:37:36,267
that you can see us pointing at.
965
00:37:36,350 --> 00:37:38,110
And the thing was,
this happened immediately.
966
00:37:38,225 --> 00:37:40,392
So we thought,
"Whoa, we... we just got here,
967
00:37:40,475 --> 00:37:42,850
"and we're kicking up
some kind of effect."
968
00:37:42,975 --> 00:37:44,350
Turns out...
969
00:37:44,475 --> 00:37:45,933
Yeah, what he was identifying
970
00:37:46,058 --> 00:37:47,517
was radon that
was being kicked up.
971
00:37:47,642 --> 00:37:49,784
- It makes perfect sense.
- As we were walking through...
972
00:37:49,808 --> 00:37:51,308
Radon pools
and collects in the sand,
973
00:37:51,475 --> 00:37:53,433
and as you stir it up,
then it releases it.
974
00:37:53,558 --> 00:37:56,350
I'll tell you somethin'
it does tell me though:
975
00:37:56,475 --> 00:37:58,350
when you see radon gas,
it suggests
976
00:37:58,475 --> 00:38:00,642
that there are
uranium deposits nearby.
977
00:38:00,767 --> 00:38:02,642
- Okay.
- So, there's likely
978
00:38:02,808 --> 00:38:05,350
uranium deposits
underneath the area there.
979
00:38:05,475 --> 00:38:07,767
So, I find it really
interesting though.
980
00:38:07,850 --> 00:38:09,683
Now, what was
interesting to us also,
981
00:38:09,808 --> 00:38:11,892
Casey spent a good half
of a day with us
982
00:38:11,975 --> 00:38:13,558
recording on the gamma cam.
983
00:38:13,642 --> 00:38:16,350
Now this is a recording
of the same radiation spike
984
00:38:16,475 --> 00:38:20,100
over the ranch house
as the gamma camera's running.
985
00:38:20,225 --> 00:38:21,767
Whoa, did you see it jump?
986
00:38:21,892 --> 00:38:23,225
What?
987
00:38:23,308 --> 00:38:24,600
Hey, stop. Stop it right there.
988
00:38:24,725 --> 00:38:26,850
Yes, sir.
989
00:38:28,975 --> 00:38:30,850
Look at this.
990
00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:32,600
What does that suggest
to you, Travis?
991
00:38:32,683 --> 00:38:34,142
That there was interference.
992
00:38:34,267 --> 00:38:37,058
This is... this is an
interference pattern, right?
993
00:38:37,142 --> 00:38:39,600
In gamma rays. Play through
to where there was a thing here.
994
00:38:39,725 --> 00:38:41,308
- You got it.
- A minute ago, right?
995
00:38:41,475 --> 00:38:43,142
- Yeah.
- Okay.
996
00:38:43,267 --> 00:38:46,225
That is... It's,
like, perfectly rectangular.
997
00:38:46,350 --> 00:38:49,558
There's somethin' out here
that's a hole.
998
00:38:50,392 --> 00:38:52,058
- A hole in what?
- I don't know.
999
00:38:52,142 --> 00:38:55,933
A hole, an aperture of...
A screen, a block of metal
1000
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:57,892
with a...
With a square hole in it.
1001
00:38:57,975 --> 00:38:59,267
Could it be a solid object?
1002
00:38:59,392 --> 00:39:01,142
It could be a solid object, yes.
1003
00:39:01,267 --> 00:39:05,433
And then,
go forward to the next thing.
1004
00:39:06,558 --> 00:39:07,767
Keep goin'.
1005
00:39:07,892 --> 00:39:09,433
Whoa, whoa, right there.
1006
00:39:11,017 --> 00:39:12,701
So, this looks like
there's somethin' that...
1007
00:39:12,725 --> 00:39:14,683
That the gamma
rays are coming through a hole,
1008
00:39:14,808 --> 00:39:16,142
hitting the ground.
1009
00:39:16,267 --> 00:39:18,058
So, if you take a laser,
and you get
1010
00:39:18,142 --> 00:39:20,142
a little card
and cut a square hole in it
1011
00:39:20,267 --> 00:39:23,100
and you shine the laser
through the holes
1012
00:39:23,225 --> 00:39:27,225
and you look across the room,
you'll see a pattern like that.
1013
00:39:27,308 --> 00:39:29,308
- A diffraction pattern.
- A diffraction pattern.
1014
00:39:29,433 --> 00:39:31,725
This suggests
perhaps these gamma rays
1015
00:39:31,808 --> 00:39:34,933
are coming through a hole
somewhere out here in the sky
1016
00:39:35,058 --> 00:39:38,308
and... and then this
is the diffraction pattern
1017
00:39:38,475 --> 00:39:41,933
of them passing around
whatever this is out there.
1018
00:39:42,058 --> 00:39:43,350
- Wow.
- But... but why?
1019
00:39:43,475 --> 00:39:44,767
But why? I have no idea.
1020
00:39:46,142 --> 00:39:47,222
And the... and the location.
1021
00:39:47,267 --> 00:39:48,642
This overhead anomaly
1022
00:39:48,767 --> 00:39:50,100
is right above the ranch house.
1023
00:39:50,183 --> 00:39:52,558
Well, is this a point of entry
1024
00:39:52,642 --> 00:39:53,933
or activity?
1025
00:39:54,058 --> 00:39:55,642
These are all valid questions.
1026
00:39:55,767 --> 00:39:58,517
The fact that you described it
as something almost rectangular,
1027
00:39:58,642 --> 00:40:01,225
I mean, that matches up
exactly with the photograph
1028
00:40:01,308 --> 00:40:03,350
that Linda took
and their descriptions
1029
00:40:03,475 --> 00:40:05,195
of what they called
something like a portal.
1030
00:40:05,225 --> 00:40:06,892
Travis, this has gotta be one
1031
00:40:07,017 --> 00:40:09,100
of the most
interesting radiation surveys
1032
00:40:09,225 --> 00:40:11,350
that I have seen
in connection with this work.
1033
00:40:11,475 --> 00:40:13,683
Never seen... Well, this
is a new piece of equipment.
1034
00:40:13,808 --> 00:40:15,308
But look... look at this, Erik.
1035
00:40:15,433 --> 00:40:17,118
Look at the bar that tells you
the strength...
1036
00:40:17,142 --> 00:40:18,808
The strength
of the peaks of that
1037
00:40:18,933 --> 00:40:23,100
is in the tens
of millisieverts per hour.
1038
00:40:24,642 --> 00:40:26,100
That's dangerous levels.
1039
00:40:26,225 --> 00:40:27,993
That's reminding me
of the experience that you had.
1040
00:40:28,017 --> 00:40:29,308
- Yeah.
- Whoa, whoa,
1041
00:40:29,433 --> 00:40:31,600
so you're saying
this aerial phenomenon,
1042
00:40:31,683 --> 00:40:36,100
this was actually a... a...
A dangerous burst of radiation?
1043
00:40:36,225 --> 00:40:38,683
I'm thinking
if you were standing right there
1044
00:40:38,808 --> 00:40:40,392
where you see those red peaks,
1045
00:40:40,475 --> 00:40:42,267
you could have had
problems like I had.
1046
00:40:42,392 --> 00:40:43,933
What happened at Homestead Two
1047
00:40:44,058 --> 00:40:45,433
really shook me up.
1048
00:40:45,558 --> 00:40:48,225
I noticed weird red marks
on my hand and my head.
1049
00:40:48,308 --> 00:40:50,183
They were radiation burns.
1050
00:40:50,308 --> 00:40:52,850
That could also explain why
it didn't hit everybody else.
1051
00:40:52,975 --> 00:40:54,618
- Look how localized it is.
- Very localized.
1052
00:40:54,642 --> 00:40:56,433
This is unbelievable
how localized that is.
1053
00:40:56,558 --> 00:40:59,267
Well, and hovering,
and it's right above
1054
00:40:59,392 --> 00:41:02,267
a main point of interest,
the old house.
1055
00:41:02,350 --> 00:41:04,642
This is literally
giving me chills, guys.
1056
00:41:04,767 --> 00:41:08,600
It's seeing the very localized
gamma ray events
1057
00:41:08,683 --> 00:41:10,808
that you guys captured
on this ranch
1058
00:41:10,975 --> 00:41:13,850
that actually kind
of helps us understand
1059
00:41:13,975 --> 00:41:16,558
the very localized
gamma ray events
1060
00:41:16,642 --> 00:41:18,767
that have happened here
on Skinwalker Ranch,
1061
00:41:18,892 --> 00:41:20,767
and those were localized
gamma ray events
1062
00:41:20,892 --> 00:41:22,142
that we can't explain.
1063
00:41:22,267 --> 00:41:23,892
Looks like you guys
have captured
1064
00:41:23,975 --> 00:41:25,475
that occurring in real time.
1065
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,975
This is what we were able
to collect on this trip.
1066
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:29,225
Our time was limited.
1067
00:41:29,308 --> 00:41:30,975
We went in guns blazing
1068
00:41:31,142 --> 00:41:33,892
as much as we could
looking for answers
1069
00:41:33,975 --> 00:41:36,183
related to the strangeness
of the ranch.
1070
00:41:36,308 --> 00:41:38,017
Well, you said
your time was limited,
1071
00:41:38,142 --> 00:41:40,058
but I'll tell you,
it was well spent.
1072
00:41:40,142 --> 00:41:41,767
There is
still more to that story.
1073
00:41:41,850 --> 00:41:44,558
I mean, we still have
further roads to go down.
1074
00:41:44,642 --> 00:41:47,475
It truly does warrant
further investigation.
1075
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,100
Guys, this was
very well-executed on the parts
1076
00:41:50,183 --> 00:41:51,933
of everyone
who participated in this.
1077
00:41:52,058 --> 00:41:53,475
This really sets a high bar
1078
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,267
for everything
that's going to follow.
1079
00:41:55,350 --> 00:41:57,267
Well, guys,
thank you for all your feedback.
1080
00:41:57,392 --> 00:41:59,272
We're excited to hand off
some more data to you,
1081
00:41:59,308 --> 00:42:01,933
and we're excited to get
to work on our next project.
1082
00:42:02,058 --> 00:42:03,767
Yeah, can't wait
to see what you do next.
1083
00:42:03,850 --> 00:42:05,183
- All right.
- Thank you.
1084
00:42:05,308 --> 00:42:06,767
Thank you so much, gentlemen.
1085
00:42:06,892 --> 00:42:08,225
This was an awesome experience.
1086
00:42:08,308 --> 00:42:10,058
- Awesome.
- Good luck, gentlemen.
1087
00:42:10,142 --> 00:42:12,225
- Thank you. We'll talk soon.
- All right.
1088
00:42:12,249 --> 00:42:14,249
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