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Very brief excerpt
from the report
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of the Air Force's scientific
advisory board, which
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they made recently upon
completing a detailed review
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of the subject of UFO.
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This is the statement.
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"The committee
concluded that in the 19
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years since the first
UFO was sighted,
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there has been no evidence that
unidentified flying objects are
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a threat to our
national security."
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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And I took a camera
that was set up
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with an 18A ultraviolet filter
on a Super 8 millimeter color
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camera.
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And I set the camera to
expose at two frames a second,
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so that I'd get some endurance
out of the small roll of Super
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8 film.
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I took it up in an airliner
between Long Beach and San
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Jose.
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And I fired it out through
the airliner window
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with the 18A filter
over the camera.
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And there were UFOs
coming and going
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to the side of the
airliner during the flight.
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And on takeoff from
San Jose, one of them
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warped around the
wing of the aircraft
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and is seen at two frames
a second on this film.
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I always hoped that
people would take this up,
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because I did publish it.
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But there just
wasn't any ambition
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to penetrate into the invisible.
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Everybody wanted ships from
other planets with men in them.
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So that's where it's
laid until this day.
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There are three
events in UFO history
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that have made this
motion picture possible.
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In the 1950s, Trevor
James Constable
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unlocks one of the
mysteries of UFOs.
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With the aid of
infrared photography,
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he discovers the fact that
some UFOs are invisible.
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By using infrared
film in his cameras,
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he discovered UFOs that exist in
a light spectrum that cannot be
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seen with the naked eye or
photographed with conventional
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cameras.
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This opens a whole new aspect
in the documenting of UFOs.
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And his discovery reveals some
UFOs may be living creatures.
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He calls them critters.
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In 1994, Jose
Escamilla discovers
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a phenomenon called rods, a life
form invisible to the naked eye
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that we had never seen before.
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He also develops a
technique for filming
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these life forms that exist
in the realm of the very fast.
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He calls it sky fishing, using
high speed shutter settings
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on camcorders.
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In 1995, NASA stops
airing live broadcasts
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from shuttle missions
after UFO footage has
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been made public, creating a
controversy about how much NASA
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really knows about
their existence.
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Looks like you've got
an object right in front
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of you, Mark.
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You looking out there?
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Not sure what
you're talking about.
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Never mind.
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That same year,
Martin Stubbs begins
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recording what
will be five years
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and over 2,500 hours
of uninterrupted
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live broadcasts from
NASA's own downlink.
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Today, we have digital
camcorder technology
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that enables us to capture UFOs
in full color, high resolution
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video.
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Invisible UFOs can now be
captured in broad daylight
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by anyone.
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Two camcorders of the
same make and model
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are set up side by side.
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What has never been
seen that exists
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in the invisible
realm of the infrared
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can now be seen using
current camcorder technology.
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Within 15 minutes total that
we saw the first group go by.
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It makes it all
worthwhile when
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you're out there getting
cold and a sore neck,
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looking up and just thinking
that more people could do this.
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Using this new
technology for filming
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UFOs invisible to the naked
eye, someone out there
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will eventually capture the
best UFO or rod footage ever.
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UFO research, however, is
only a part of the story.
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I think it's long past time
to open this up to the public.
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Give us information
to the young people
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of the world in this country.
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They want to hear it.
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They want it.
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Give it to them.
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Don't hide it and tell
lies or make stories.
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They're not stupid.
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Eventually, there's going
to be something happen that
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will make all of them have
egg all over their face.
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And they're going to
have to admit that they
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haven't been truthful at all.
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The nations of the
world will have to unite,
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for the next war will be
an interplanetary war.
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The nations of the
earth must someday
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make a common front
against attack
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by people from other planets.
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Anti-aircraft guns
went into action
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against unidentified
aircraft in the Los Angeles
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area ordered by the
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An command at 2:25 AM.
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The unidentified object moved
slowly down the Pacific coast
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from Santa Monica
and disappeared
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south of Long Beach.
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Searchlights closely followed
the object down the coast
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and kept it centered
in their glare.
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Shells frequently can be
seen bursting near the object
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but none appears to hit it.
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The shooting stopped
at about 3:30 AM.
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Approximately 20 minutes
after the firing died down,
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the ship returned
and headed westward
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from Long Beach
towards Santa Monica.
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The guns ran into action
again, hurling round
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after round of
shells at the object.
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The second barrage appeared
to be closer to downtown Los
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Angeles, since watchers could
hear the concussion of the guns
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more clearly, and the flash of
bursting shells was brighter.
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Then the ship disappeared for
the second time over the ocean.
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We return you now
to CBS in New York.
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And that was Byron
Palmer on the West Coast.
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The battle of LA was the first
time that our military actually
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fired upon a UFO.
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The next day, the
military told the press
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it was nothing but
a weather balloon.
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Another report was that
they fired at nothing,
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due to war nerves.
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The Army was not too
pleased with these reports.
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If they could not bring
down a weather balloon
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with almost 1500 rounds
fired and direct hits, then
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what would they be able to do
firing at real enemy targets?
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This was the first
time official denial
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was put into motion
regarding UFOs.
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This was 1942, only a few
months after Pearl Harbor.
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Our distinguished guest for
this evening is Dr. Willie Ley.
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Well, now, is our own
government, our own defense
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department taking the flying
saucer report seriously?
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They have to.
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After all, the Air
Force, which is
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the one which is
investigating, is charged
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with the defense of our skies.
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So if there is anything in the
skies which they don't know
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and cannot account for, it
makes them understandably.
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Uneasy.
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Major Donald E. Keyhoe, a
retired Marine Corps officer,
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insisted that the Air Force
knew more than it was telling.
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Being observed by some type
of device which is ahead of us,
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far ahead of us, and
is probably controlled
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by a highly advanced,
superior civilization.
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It has reached the point where
many people in the Air Force
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have the same conclusion.
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In fact, the Air
Force at one time
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had a top secret estimate
that these planes
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were interplanetary spaceships.
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Right now if you report
having seen a flying saucer,
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you open yourself up to ridicule
too, which is something which
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is deplored by the Air Force.
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In other words,
members of our audience
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who might, for one reason or
another, see a flying saucer,
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can make the reports
to the Air Force
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and be rendering a service
and not invite ridicule.
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Instead of being a subject
for ridicule and a big joke,
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actually is a serious
matter which could
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affect the lives of all of us.
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Actually, most people
who report a UFO sighting
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are patriotic citizens
who have been mystified
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by something that they've seen.
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And through a patriotic
sense, report it
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to the local law
enforcement officials
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or to the United States
Air Force Base near them.
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The first reports were brought
in by quiet and sober citizens,
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like Frank Mannor.
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I looked to the north of me,
and looked like a fallen star.
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You know, it was red and
coming down at about a 45.
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And so then I watched it and
was going to see if it landed
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and maybe go down
and see what it was.
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And when it got to the top
of the trees, it stopped.
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And a blue and a
white light come on.
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And I looked at it and I
thought I was seeing things.
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Frank Mannor's UFO
remained over his swamp
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for more than four hours.
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His children saw it.
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His in-laws saw it.
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Residents of the area saw it.
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And I saw it looked
to be shaped like a pie.
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I could see the front of it.
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I just saw the round front
and I could see the lights
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on either side.
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I just wanted to stay there
and keep my eyes glued to it.
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I couldn't leave.
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But I can't fathom it,
because it seems so unreal.
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William Van Horn, Hillsdale's
undertaker and civil defense
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director, also spotted the UFO
and was with his Geiger counter
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the next day, checking a
mysterious perfect circle
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where the UFO had been seen.
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No one photographed it.
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But Sergeant Newell Schneider
of the sheriff's office
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remembered it well
enough to draw it.
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It moved very rapidly at any
speed or rather any direction
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it wanted to go.
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Why, it could change and
go to the right or the left
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or go across ways
without hesitating a bit.
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What do you think it was?
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Well, if they call it a flying
saucer, that's what it is.
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The Air Force sent its
chief scientific consultant
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on UFOs, Professor
Jay Allen Hyneck,
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to check the Michigan sightings.
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Dr. Hyneck agreed that the
good citizens of Michigan
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had seen something
in the marshlands.
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He thought they
had seen marsh gas.
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They as children on the
farm had many experiences
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with swamp rights, and this
was obviously the thing
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that it was and they
couldn't understand
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why the people in Michigan got
so excited over swamp lights.
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Dr. Hynek's belief
in marsh gases
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was not exactly welcomed by
Ann Arbor sheriff Douglas
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Harvey, who had some
interesting things to tell me.
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Because if he's going
to say it's marsh gases,
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I'll tell you now, in all due
respect to Professor Hyneck,
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he's all wet.
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I think this is a flowered up
deal, because last night he
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was in my office.
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And this is what my
statement will contain.
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And at 11:00, he had no
statement whatsoever to make.
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He told me he had
no idea what it was,
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but he said the Pentagon
said that he had
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to make a statement tomorrow.
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He said, I don't know
what I'm going to say.
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So overnight he comes
up with this theory.
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Right now, if you report
having seen a flying saucer,
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you open yourself
up to ridicule.
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Well, you can look at here,
with beer bottles thrown.
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Look at my windshield.
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What would you think if somebody
was throwing beer bottles
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at your house, standing
out in the middle
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of the road screaming, you
nut, you fanatic, all that.
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What would you think?
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You open yourself
up to ridicule.
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Are you sorry now that you
did tell people what you saw?
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Yes, I am.
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I am sorry.
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Not that it's not the
truth, but it's the idea
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the reaction of the people.
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They think you're a
nut, tell you the truth.
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That's just what
they figure you are.
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And I'm not going
to take it no more.
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I don't want nobody
down in here.
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I just-- leave me alone.
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You open yourself up
to ridicule too, which
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is something which is deplored
by the Air Force, deplored
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by the Air Force,
deplored by the Air Force.
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And if the thing lands
right there by that pump,
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I'd never say a word.
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And he got out and talked to
me, I wouldn't tell nobody.
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That's just the way I feel.
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I'm bitter and disgusted
in the whole matter.
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According to the
United States Air Force,
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in following a policy
which is set fairly
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high in the Pentagon,
there are about 250 or 300
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extremely incompetent
airline and military pilots
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in this country.
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Airlines let them
continue to fly,
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even though they
have reported UFOs.
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The Air Force has
been accused from time
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to time of hiding
information about UFO.
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What do you have to say
to that [INAUDIBLE]?
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These charges are
absolutely untrue.
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We have not been
hiding anything.
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This is not an attack
on the Air Force spokesman
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or the project spokesman.
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They are simply following
orders to explain away all UFO
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sightings as quickly as
possible when they become public
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and deny that UFOs really exist.
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UFOs were fairly new.
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And even though there
had been sporadic reports
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throughout the late
1800s and early 1900s,
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they were simply
nothing to worry about.
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Flying saucers had been reported
and photographed worldwide.
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They were not an issue
because the sightings,
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although seen by pilots
and close to Army bases,
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did not seem to pose
any kind of threat.
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They were simply passed off
as strange lights or sightings
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of atmospheric and
weather anomalies
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by untrained civilians
who were seeing things
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that were easy to explain.
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After the attack
on Pearl Harbor,
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it became apparent that our
military needed to control who
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or what flew into our airspace.
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Radar was the newest
technology for detecting
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anything in our skies
that was not acknowledged
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to be our aircraft.
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The battle of LA was an
example of an unknown aircraft
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that was immune to all that
our anti-aircraft guns could
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deliver.
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Nothing could bring
this one object down.
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What was our
military going to do
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to control this unknown threat?
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What would happen if
the public found out
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these things were real,
and there was nothing
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we could do to stop them?
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The only solution was
to deny that there
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was any kind of
threat from something
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we had no control over,
something we could not stop.
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The solution included
an official denial
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that would last over 60 years.
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The Air Force and the CIA
hired and commissioned
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the top astronomers, scientists,
and experts of those times
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to become the authorities
on the subject of UFOs.
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These experts appeared on
national radio and television
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and gave the naive, gullible,
and patriotic public
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the myth about UFOs.
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Astronomer Thornton Page
was on a CIA committee
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that investigated
UFO reports in 1952.
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Its conclusion?
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No evidence of UFOs.
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Even highly regarded
astronomer Carl Sagan
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was placed by the Air
Force as a consultant
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on a scientific panel to
deny the existence of UFOs.
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The official Air Force reply
was that there was no cover up,
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and there were no flying
saucers from outer space.
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I would like to close by
reading a very brief excerpt
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from the report
of the Air Force's
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scientific advisory board,
which they made recently
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upon completing a detailed
review of the subject of UFO.
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This is the statement.
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"The committee
concluded that in the 19
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years since the first
UFO was sighted,
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there has been no evidence that
unidentified flying objects are
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a threat to our
national security."
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This was to become the
greatest story ever denied.
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[RUMBLING]
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Like any other people
in the Los Angeles area,
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my brother and I were devastated
by the Northridge earthquake.
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I was awake that morning making
final edit decisions on a film
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that we had been working
on for the past year.
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Our film and video editing
studio was destroyed.
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So we had to finish
cutting the film
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at one of the labs in Burbank.
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We didn't realize that
the earthquake was only
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the beginning of
what would become
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one of the many
life-changing events
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that were about to unfold.
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We decided to go home and
visit our family for a while
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before coming back and
starting all over again.
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We went back to Roswell, New
Mexico, which is our hometown.
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And a couple of months later, we
filmed the first broad daylight
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footage ever taken of UFOs
over the Roswell area.
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We compiled an enormous archive
of broad daylight UFO activity
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at Midway, which is
where we all grew up,
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and which is located just
nine miles south of Roswell.
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Midway is also the place
where the rods phenomenon
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was discovered.
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And you can see a rod
coming in, and it's coming
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like this outside of the water.
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And you see it hit the water.
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It leaves a vapor
trail and enters.
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And there's about three or
four of them that just zip by.
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And they're going just as
fast as rods do in the sky.
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The rods are just one part
of an enormous panorama of life
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that is veiled from
normal human sight.
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In the case of the
rods, you found
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that by using an
extremely fast shutter,
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you could slow
down and objectify
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something that would otherwise
elude the photographic process.
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They would be gone before
they could be put on a frame.
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But that doesn't mean
that they're not there.
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It just means that you need
a device, an apparatus that
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will remove an optical
limitation that you have.
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We don't reject the microscope,
because the microscope
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intensifies the
power of human sight.
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Without it, the world of
the microbe would not exist.
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But that wouldn't alter the fact
that our entire environment,
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our entire living scenario, is
really conditioned upon what
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happens in a domain that
we cannot see directly.
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In my opinion, the
same thing applies--
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and this will be verified
in years to come--
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at the upper border of nature.
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But I realized at
this point that it's
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very secret, that it was kept
secret because I asked him,
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what are you going to do with
this piece of information?
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And he said, we always
airbrush these out
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before we sell
them to the public.
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So there were pesky
little creatures
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appearing on this photograph
they wanted to get rid of.
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This is a fact of the
matter, we were really not sure
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after John flew whether or not
there were critters, living
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critters out there somewhere.
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Critters that were
captured by NASA
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on that mission STS-75 in 1996.
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In all my considerable
experience of the entire UFO
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scenario, I have never
seen and never expect
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to see footage like that.
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And least of all did
I expect to see it
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on film or tape that
had been exposed
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by the government
in a NASA mission.
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The shuttle Columbia
in this mission
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was equipped with a very
sophisticated and expensive
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ultraviolet camera.
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It was sensitive to
the near ultraviolet.
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And when they were up at 300
miles above the atmosphere,
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they launched from the
Columbia a small satellite
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with a tether.
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Not long after it was
launched, the tether broke.
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We record steadily
the whole break
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and call back of the tether.
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Copy, Claude.
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Again, this is a
view of the satellite.
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Well, if it had to break,
it did it in the right place.
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And you see on this
astonishing film,
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you see the satellite
go drifting far astern
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of this orbiting Columbia.
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The tether, which
is 12 miles long,
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straightens out into a
long, white line which you
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can see as plainly as could be.
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Columbia and the satellite
now 77 nautical miles apart.
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Now, while this is all going
on, a whole covey of UFOs,
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perhaps three dozen
of them, manifest
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to this ultraviolet
camera and they
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begin moving
around, circulating,
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looking for all the world like
something in an aquarium tank.
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The satellite again,
just moving into sunrise.
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Now Houston, of course,
down on the ground,
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is getting this feed
from the Columbia.
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And they ask the astronauts in
the shuttle, what can they see?
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What is that they can see?
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Just getting the image.
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Franklin, we see a long line,
a couple of star like things
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and a lot of things
swimming in the foreground.
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Can you describe
what you're seeing?
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Well, the long
line is a tether,
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and there's a little bit of
debris the flies with us.
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It is like a
brilliant white bar.
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It looks like a neon sign,
and it's 12 miles long.
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Now, what this does is give
you a sort of cosmic ruler
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by which you can get
an idea and an estimate
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of the diameter of the UFOs that
are flitting around down there.
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Now, when you see them
go behind the tether,
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that means that you can use
that tether like a ruler
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to measure the diameter.
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And those things that are down
there going behind the tether
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are between two and three
nautical miles in diameter.
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One of the things you
see over and over again
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is you see UFOS materialize
into the ultraviolet
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while you watch.
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You see them come
from out of nowhere
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to the point where
they are returning
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a response to the camera.
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You also see them dematerialize
while you have them
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under observation.
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There is two of the
central things that
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have gone on with UFOs since
day one-- materialization
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and dematerialization.
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It's going on in
this film 300 miles
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above the earth photographed
by your government,
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with your astronauts
superintending the whole thing.
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We are completely
un-zoomed, and you see
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the full extent of the tether.
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Columbia to Houston,
that's a much better view,
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a lot more contrast.
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It's not an infrequent
occurrence out there.
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They have them quite often.
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There were probably 1500
reported cases at that time.
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I have over 3,000 cases now.
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They estimated 100
yards from the left wing
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was this 100 foot disk.
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And the strength
of the signal was
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as strong as a surface
contact on the water
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of an aircraft carrier.
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This contact was huge.
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We were flying
tankers over England.
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And London control asked
us to intercept a UFO.
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So it would go from one
o'clock, seven or eight miles,
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to six, seven o'clock,
seven or eight miles inside
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of four or five seconds.
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You have to be moving
pretty quickly.
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They could rise,
just go straight up.
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They could do that, just
seemed like instantaneous.
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Once they started moving, they
went straight up for a while.
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And then they went zep.
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And left the
atmosphere, just was gone.
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They just took off into space.
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It just-- left at high speed.
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Yes, there have
been ET visitation.
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There have been crashed craft.
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There have been material
and bodies recovered.
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I didn't want to look at it
any longer than that because I
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felt that my life
was in jeopardy.
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So I was beaten, literally
hit in the ribs and pushed.
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And I was resisting.
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And I know Sergeant Bastinza
was doing the same thing.
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He said, you are never
to speak of this again.
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As far as you're concerned,
this never happened.
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And you never saw this.
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I don't exist, and the
situation never happened.
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00:35:59,420 --> 00:36:03,650
We are here today to disclose
the truth about a subject that
497
00:36:03,650 --> 00:36:06,830
has been ridiculed
and questioned,
498
00:36:06,830 --> 00:36:10,000
denied for at least 50 years.
499
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,560
The reason we are
coming forward now
500
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,320
is that we are asking for the US
Congress and for President Bush
501
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,330
to move towards an
official inquiry
502
00:36:20,330 --> 00:36:22,020
and disclosure on this subject.
503
00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:23,560
Morning, ladies and gentlemen.
504
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,210
My name's Clifford Stone I was
a Sergeant First Class United
505
00:36:26,210 --> 00:36:27,440
States Army.
506
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,180
My name is Dwynne Arnesson.
507
00:36:29,180 --> 00:36:32,230
I served 26 years as a
communication electronics
508
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:34,600
officer in the US Air Force.
509
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,180
My name is John Callahan.
510
00:36:36,180 --> 00:36:38,710
I'm a retired FAA employee.
511
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:41,350
I was the division manager
for the accidents, evaluation,
512
00:36:41,350 --> 00:36:42,880
and Investigation division.
513
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,600
My name is Don Phillips.
514
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,520
I was in the United
States Air Force
515
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,850
and had worked with
certain intelligence
516
00:36:49,850 --> 00:36:52,150
agencies of the United
States government.
517
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:57,900
These are people who have
been inside the CIA, NSA, NRO,
518
00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:03,150
Air Force, Navy, Marines,
Army, all divisions
519
00:37:03,150 --> 00:37:05,700
of the intelligence
and military community,
520
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:10,030
as well as corporate witnesses,
contractors to the government.
521
00:37:10,030 --> 00:37:11,600
My name is Dan Willis.
522
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,540
My name is George Filer III.
523
00:37:15,540 --> 00:37:17,450
My name is John Maynard.
524
00:37:17,450 --> 00:37:19,140
My name is Donna Hare.
525
00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:20,720
My name is Karl Wolf.
526
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:22,180
My name is Harland Bentley.
527
00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:23,792
My name is Mark McCandlish.
528
00:37:23,792 --> 00:37:25,250
And these are
folks who have been
529
00:37:25,250 --> 00:37:27,810
involved in so-called
black budget
530
00:37:27,810 --> 00:37:30,850
or covert
unacknowledged projects.
531
00:37:30,850 --> 00:37:33,690
These unacknowledged
special access projects
532
00:37:33,690 --> 00:37:39,300
are taking in at least $40
to $80 billion per year.
533
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:41,870
And they are sitting
on technologies that
534
00:37:41,870 --> 00:37:43,790
can change the world forever.
535
00:37:43,790 --> 00:37:46,590
My name is Charles L. Brown.
536
00:37:46,590 --> 00:37:48,260
My name is Michael Smith.
537
00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:49,580
My name is Robert Salas.
538
00:37:49,580 --> 00:37:51,250
My name is Carol Rosin.
539
00:37:51,250 --> 00:37:57,100
I have had grown men weep
who are in the Pentagon,
540
00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:00,700
who are members of Congress,
and who have said to me,
541
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:02,440
what are we going to do?
542
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,300
And I'm prepared to tell the
story in front of Congress.
543
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:08,220
And it is the truth.
544
00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:11,354
And I will testify
under oath before Congress
545
00:38:11,354 --> 00:38:12,770
that what I'm
saying is the truth.
546
00:38:12,770 --> 00:38:15,265
I'm prepared to go to Congress
to swear before Congress
547
00:38:15,265 --> 00:38:17,390
that everything I've told
you people and everything
548
00:38:17,390 --> 00:38:19,010
that is here is the truth.
549
00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:21,510
These men and women
have come forward
550
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:23,290
and they have their credentials.
551
00:38:23,290 --> 00:38:25,340
They can establish who they are.
552
00:38:25,340 --> 00:38:27,580
And they have been
firsthand witnesses
553
00:38:27,580 --> 00:38:29,650
to some of the most
important events
554
00:38:29,650 --> 00:38:31,720
in the history of
the human race.
555
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,270
I'm willing to testify to
the truth of all these matters
556
00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:38,050
that I've spoken about in
front of Congress under oath.
557
00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:41,720
I'm willing to testify before
Congress that what I'm saying
558
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:42,520
is true.
559
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,414
And I am prepared
to testify in detail
560
00:38:45,414 --> 00:38:47,330
concerning these events
and their truthfulness
561
00:38:47,330 --> 00:38:48,170
before Congress.
562
00:38:48,170 --> 00:38:49,750
These statements are true.
563
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:52,310
I'm willing to testify
under oath before Congress.
564
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:57,140
That I will testify under
oath as to what I say is true.
565
00:38:57,140 --> 00:38:59,660
And I will do so
before Congress.
566
00:38:59,660 --> 00:39:02,740
I will testify before
Congress if necessary
567
00:39:02,740 --> 00:39:05,000
and explain exactly
what happened.
568
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,090
And I will testify
before the Congress
569
00:39:07,090 --> 00:39:10,480
under oath about everything
I have said and more.
570
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,090
I have personally
briefed a sitting director
571
00:39:14,090 --> 00:39:16,890
of Central Intelligence, James
Woolsey, President Clinton's
572
00:39:16,890 --> 00:39:18,859
first CIA director.
573
00:39:18,859 --> 00:39:20,900
I have personally briefed
the head of the Defense
574
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,800
Intelligence Agency, the head
of intelligence joint staff,
575
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,070
members of the Senate
Intelligence Committee,
576
00:39:27,070 --> 00:39:29,770
many members of
Congress, members
577
00:39:29,770 --> 00:39:34,820
of the European leadership, the
Japanese cabinet, and others.
578
00:39:34,820 --> 00:39:36,740
And what I have found
is that none of them
579
00:39:36,740 --> 00:39:39,010
are surprised that this is true.
580
00:39:39,010 --> 00:39:41,510
But they are uniformly
horrified that they have not
581
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:44,320
had access to these projects.
582
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,060
A lot of people talk
about conspiracies
583
00:39:46,060 --> 00:39:50,930
over a shadow government.
584
00:39:50,930 --> 00:39:54,420
I'm willing to testify
before Congress
585
00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:58,270
that these black
operations do exist.
586
00:39:58,270 --> 00:40:01,340
I nearly became part of it.
587
00:40:01,340 --> 00:40:05,950
But I saw the light,
I think, or was it?
588
00:40:05,950 --> 00:40:06,750
And I got out.
589
00:40:09,410 --> 00:40:11,120
And that's it.
590
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,930
We have to disclose
what we know.
591
00:40:14,930 --> 00:40:17,080
And I am willing to
testify before Congress
592
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,606
under oath or before
any other organization
593
00:40:21,606 --> 00:40:24,210
that what I witnessed was true.
594
00:40:24,210 --> 00:40:28,340
This whole project,
bringing this out in the open
595
00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:32,120
will probably take
other people too.
596
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,760
But myself, I'm 73 years old.
597
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,490
And I've had a good
life and no regrets.
598
00:40:38,490 --> 00:40:40,690
I've loved this country.
599
00:40:40,690 --> 00:40:43,520
And I've been a
Christian all my life
600
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,960
since I was about 11 years old.
601
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:52,350
And so I believe God
wants this known.
602
00:40:52,350 --> 00:40:56,560
I believe the cosmos
wants this known.
603
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,800
I know we're not
alone in the universe.
604
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,640
I know that the
absence of evidence
605
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,080
is not evidence of absence.
606
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,140
It's evidence that it's been
denied to the American people.
607
00:41:08,140 --> 00:41:11,694
[APPLAUSE]
608
00:41:13,570 --> 00:41:16,090
I stand before you today
and my Almighty God,
609
00:41:16,090 --> 00:41:17,600
and I tell you this.
610
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,540
If Congress calls
me in and says,
611
00:41:20,540 --> 00:41:23,700
will you testify in
detail what you know,
612
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:27,100
I stand here today prepared
and ready to do just that.
613
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:29,390
Governments must never
lie to the people.
614
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,570
Headline edition,
July 8, 1947.
615
00:41:44,570 --> 00:41:46,140
The Army Air Forces
has announced
616
00:41:46,140 --> 00:41:48,130
that a flying disk
has been found
617
00:41:48,130 --> 00:41:50,370
and is now in the
possession of the Army.
618
00:41:50,370 --> 00:41:53,671
Army officers say the missile,
found sometime last week,
619
00:41:53,671 --> 00:41:56,126
has been inspected at
Roswell, New Mexico,
620
00:41:56,126 --> 00:41:59,370
and sent to Wright Field,
Ohio, for further inspection.
621
00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:04,570
The whole project was, get as
much information and technology
622
00:42:04,570 --> 00:42:07,070
out of these crafts
as fast as they could
623
00:42:07,070 --> 00:42:12,470
and to steer the news media
off on some crazy idea
624
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:15,000
that these sightings
were created
625
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:21,870
by college pranks and balloons
and meteorological problems.
626
00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:24,790
And a lot of the
information was siphoned off
627
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:28,370
by the CIA and the
National Security Agency
628
00:42:28,370 --> 00:42:32,110
and people at ONI, Office
of Naval Intelligence.
629
00:42:32,110 --> 00:42:36,210
It was the first time I'd ever
seen anything like this before,
630
00:42:36,210 --> 00:42:40,900
and all eyes were just peeled
on that particular thing.
631
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:46,810
And when he told us what
it was, it was frightening.
632
00:42:46,810 --> 00:42:47,760
It was eerie.
633
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,900
You could have heard a
pin drop in the room when
634
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:51,310
it was first mentioned.
635
00:42:51,310 --> 00:42:54,670
He said it had been taken
from one of the craft
636
00:42:54,670 --> 00:42:59,320
that had crashed in
New Mexico and that it
637
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,800
had been taken from
a box of materials
638
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,110
that the military
was working on.
639
00:43:05,110 --> 00:43:08,520
They didn't use the word
"reverse engineering"
640
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,620
at that time, but
it was something
641
00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:13,720
similar to reverse
engineering they
642
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:17,250
felt like they
needed to work on,
643
00:43:17,250 --> 00:43:19,570
and it was going to
take years to do this.
644
00:43:19,570 --> 00:43:22,270
I was a duty
officer that night.
645
00:43:22,270 --> 00:43:24,720
And I went to the
veterinarian section,
646
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:28,090
and the one sergeant
I knew very well
647
00:43:28,090 --> 00:43:30,376
was sergeant of the
guard that night.
648
00:43:30,376 --> 00:43:33,590
I told him, Sarge, how is
everything around here?
649
00:43:33,590 --> 00:43:34,850
And he said, fine, sir.
650
00:43:34,850 --> 00:43:36,770
I told him, you
know, they told me
651
00:43:36,770 --> 00:43:38,690
to be careful to watch
this area because you
652
00:43:38,690 --> 00:43:41,300
have a sense of
something sensitive here.
653
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:43,260
He said, you want
to see it, sir?
654
00:43:43,260 --> 00:43:45,044
Told him yeah, let's go look.
655
00:43:45,044 --> 00:43:46,460
And I knew the
sergeant very well.
656
00:43:46,460 --> 00:43:47,640
He was a master sergeant.
657
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,160
I went back, and there was five
crates there, like five or six.
658
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,660
I think it was five.
659
00:43:53,660 --> 00:43:56,990
I lifted one up and here's this
body there, floating in fluid.
660
00:43:56,990 --> 00:44:00,890
First I thought it was a
child because it was small.
661
00:44:00,890 --> 00:44:03,810
Then I looked at
this head and all.
662
00:44:03,810 --> 00:44:05,680
This only happened in
a matter of seconds.
663
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,550
Then I put the end back down.
664
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:11,750
And the head was different.
665
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:12,920
The arms are spindly.
666
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,630
The body, it was gray.
667
00:44:15,630 --> 00:44:18,980
So right at that
moment, I figured,
668
00:44:18,980 --> 00:44:20,790
I don't know what this thing is.
669
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:22,400
So like in the
intelligence business,
670
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,320
I just better put it in the
back my head here and wait.
671
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,760
Maybe in the future,
I get corroboration
672
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,430
so I can evaluate what it is.
673
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:31,380
Curtis LeMay started
to open up and talk
674
00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:38,270
about what he told me about
Roswell and the crash that
675
00:44:38,270 --> 00:44:39,620
had occurred.
676
00:44:39,620 --> 00:44:42,670
And he told me that he
was aware that it is good
677
00:44:42,670 --> 00:44:43,670
that it wasn't ours.
678
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:47,280
It wasn't the military's,
the Air Force or the Army
679
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,510
or the Navy.
680
00:44:48,510 --> 00:44:52,800
And it was highly strange, was
a highly strange vehicle that
681
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,660
crashed.
682
00:44:53,660 --> 00:44:55,451
He said, I'm going
to tell you something.
683
00:44:55,451 --> 00:44:57,457
He said, but if you
say that I told you,
684
00:44:57,457 --> 00:44:59,290
I'll swear I never even
mentioned it to you.
685
00:44:59,290 --> 00:45:01,640
And I said, no problem.
686
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,710
And he said to me, you know,
I'm a member of General Douglas
687
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:06,870
MacArthur's security guard.
688
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:09,920
He says, I'm on my way
to the States for TD1.
689
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,420
But I'm going to
tell you something.
690
00:45:11,420 --> 00:45:13,650
General Douglas MacArthur
was very familiar
691
00:45:13,650 --> 00:45:18,460
with the Roswell incident,
the crash material, and also
692
00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:20,570
the bodies, because he
himself had seen him.
693
00:45:20,570 --> 00:45:23,120
There I started getting
the Tosser reports.
694
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,750
I started getting other crash
reports, the artifacts I got.
695
00:45:26,750 --> 00:45:30,110
And I did get one time
a report to the NSA
696
00:45:30,110 --> 00:45:34,190
was getting signals from
space, which were not
697
00:45:34,190 --> 00:45:40,200
just space noise or unscrambled
or something you couldn't read.
698
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:45,760
They were really very perfect
and looked like something
699
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,560
was guiding them.
700
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,930
There was a real message.
701
00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:50,430
We were never able to decode it.
702
00:45:50,430 --> 00:45:53,140
This was a very
coordinated message.
703
00:45:53,140 --> 00:45:55,610
It wasn't space noise
or just noise coming.
704
00:45:55,610 --> 00:45:56,862
It was a pattern.
705
00:45:56,862 --> 00:45:58,320
The one person
I happened to meet
706
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:03,230
and took quite a shine to and
he to me was a Dr. Adolph Raum.
707
00:46:03,230 --> 00:46:04,730
Just for a little
background on him,
708
00:46:04,730 --> 00:46:06,910
he was from
Switzerland originally.
709
00:46:06,910 --> 00:46:10,520
He was on their first
A-bomb test in the US.
710
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,130
He knew Dr. Oppenheimer
personally, and just
711
00:46:14,130 --> 00:46:16,580
a fine, fine gentleman.
712
00:46:16,580 --> 00:46:20,330
One night after supper
and after a few martinis,
713
00:46:20,330 --> 00:46:21,600
I jokingly asked Adolph.
714
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,810
I said, what do you know
about the little gray men that
715
00:46:24,810 --> 00:46:27,710
are supposedly on ice
here at Wright Patterson?
716
00:46:27,710 --> 00:46:32,360
And I can distinctly recall
his face turning ashen white.
717
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,810
His voice got very stern.
718
00:46:33,810 --> 00:46:35,840
And he said, Arnie,
he says, all I
719
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,490
can tell you is that they
were not weather balloons
720
00:46:38,490 --> 00:46:40,220
and we will not
talk about it again.
721
00:46:40,220 --> 00:46:42,050
You understand?
722
00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:45,570
And there was no
uncertainty in my mind
723
00:46:45,570 --> 00:46:48,030
that we wouldn't talk
about this further.
724
00:46:48,030 --> 00:46:52,740
We can safely say that, yes,
there were some captured craft
725
00:46:52,740 --> 00:46:54,120
in Roswell, New Mexico.
726
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,830
And yeah, they were real.
727
00:46:55,830 --> 00:46:58,640
And yes, we really did get
some technology from them.
728
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,770
And yes we really
did put it to work.
729
00:47:00,770 --> 00:47:02,510
How many bodies
have been recovered?
730
00:47:02,510 --> 00:47:04,910
I don't know.
731
00:47:04,910 --> 00:47:08,970
How many crashes have occurred
in which we only got debris
732
00:47:08,970 --> 00:47:12,620
from because they came and
did their recovery before we
733
00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:13,420
got there?
734
00:47:13,420 --> 00:47:15,950
I don't know, but
it has happened.
735
00:47:15,950 --> 00:47:17,690
It has happened.
736
00:47:17,690 --> 00:47:20,470
When they have problems just
like we send out a distress
737
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:23,107
call, they send out
a distress call,
738
00:47:23,107 --> 00:47:25,190
which is something a lot
of people don't allude to
739
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:28,970
or don't even-- it's the one
question that's never asked.
740
00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:32,600
But here again, we think of
them as something intangible,
741
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,040
like that stuffed animal there.
742
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,030
But they're living, breathing
creatures, as mortal as you
743
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:42,590
and I. They think.
744
00:47:42,590 --> 00:47:44,420
They have loves.
745
00:47:44,420 --> 00:47:45,620
They have likes.
746
00:47:45,620 --> 00:47:47,680
They have dislikes.
747
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,430
They have social culture.
748
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:52,280
This is so, so important to
try to make people understand
749
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,070
that that is the case.
750
00:47:54,070 --> 00:47:55,880
There were more
crashes than Roswell.
751
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,186
What people don't understand
is that there was one in 1948
752
00:48:00,186 --> 00:48:03,270
and there was
another one in 1949.
753
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:08,410
The radar testing in New Mexico
was the cause of a lot of them
754
00:48:08,410 --> 00:48:09,830
that were crashing.
755
00:48:09,830 --> 00:48:13,200
And high powered
transmitters, when
756
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,884
they would get too
close to transmitters,
757
00:48:16,884 --> 00:48:18,800
it would interfere with
their guidance control
758
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:19,883
and they would just crash.
759
00:48:19,883 --> 00:48:23,720
In other craft that crashed,
we had shot them down.
760
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:27,160
As an example of
some of our precision,
761
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,960
we have here a photo of
an object re-entering
762
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,000
the Earth's atmosphere.
763
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,330
Through our programs,
we were able to predict
764
00:48:36,330 --> 00:48:38,950
the precise time that
this was going to happen
765
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:43,270
and notified a particular agency
who then went out with a camera
766
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:45,900
and was able to obtain
this photograph.
767
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:47,580
What altitude?
768
00:48:47,580 --> 00:48:49,590
This is just entering
the Earth's atmosphere,
769
00:48:49,590 --> 00:48:54,460
somewhere around 400,000 feet.
770
00:48:54,460 --> 00:48:56,520
We've been successful.
771
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,610
We crashed in White
Sands, New Mexico.
772
00:48:59,610 --> 00:49:01,480
We tracked it.
773
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,100
We were tracking it
at the time, and we
774
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:07,495
were successful in
[INAUDIBLE] where it crashed.
775
00:49:20,860 --> 00:49:25,330
[CRASH]
776
00:49:25,330 --> 00:49:31,740
I can verify, corroborated by
people that I have worked with
777
00:49:31,740 --> 00:49:33,402
and do work with now.
778
00:49:33,402 --> 00:49:35,110
He made a comment
that was really funny
779
00:49:35,110 --> 00:49:36,151
at that particular point.
780
00:49:36,151 --> 00:49:38,580
I didn't really connect it
with anything until later.
781
00:49:38,580 --> 00:49:44,590
He says, you have no idea at
all what we're about, do you?
782
00:49:44,590 --> 00:49:47,210
And I told him, no sir, I don't.
783
00:49:47,210 --> 00:49:49,740
He says, well, someday,
that technology
784
00:49:49,740 --> 00:49:56,180
will be out there that has
been totally back engineered.
785
00:49:56,180 --> 00:49:58,500
Went right over my head
at that particular point.
786
00:49:58,500 --> 00:49:59,980
When we gave
information out, we
787
00:49:59,980 --> 00:50:04,260
gave it out and insisted
they take the patents.
788
00:50:04,260 --> 00:50:06,920
But also, we put a little
bit of a requirement
789
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,720
on the requirement.
790
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:10,860
Feed it back to us for the
competitive edge of the Army.
791
00:50:10,860 --> 00:50:11,660
Take the patents.
792
00:50:11,660 --> 00:50:14,284
Make all the money you want, but
give it to the American people
793
00:50:14,284 --> 00:50:15,640
and give it to the world.
794
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,247
The Japanese, they
interviewed me.
795
00:50:17,247 --> 00:50:19,580
And I told them, when we put
the integrated circuit out,
796
00:50:19,580 --> 00:50:22,790
we also gave it to you.
797
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:24,500
He also had fiber
optics laying there.
798
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:25,770
They didn't know what
these things were.
799
00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:27,744
They figured they were
wires of some sort
800
00:50:27,744 --> 00:50:29,160
but didn't know
how they operated.
801
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,970
The interesting
thing that shows you
802
00:50:30,970 --> 00:50:33,720
that we have not achieved the
point of where these fiber
803
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:37,264
optics are is my dad would
also hold them in his hand
804
00:50:37,264 --> 00:50:38,930
and when he closed
his hand around them,
805
00:50:38,930 --> 00:50:40,580
the ends would be glowing.
806
00:50:40,580 --> 00:50:43,020
So this means they
contained their own energy.
807
00:50:43,020 --> 00:50:45,310
Well, why would you
need a fiberoptic system
808
00:50:45,310 --> 00:50:46,960
in a spaceship?
809
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,580
Well, OK, if suddenly
everything in the vehicle
810
00:50:51,580 --> 00:50:54,930
suddenly becomes mass canceled,
and even the electrons
811
00:50:54,930 --> 00:50:58,399
become mass canceled,
it means that all
812
00:50:58,399 --> 00:51:00,440
of the telemetry that's
going through your system
813
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,570
is going to go out of haywire.
814
00:51:01,570 --> 00:51:04,153
It's going to be like suddenly
the system goes through a phase
815
00:51:04,153 --> 00:51:05,880
change and everything's
superconducting.
816
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,150
Why use fiberoptics?
817
00:51:07,150 --> 00:51:09,590
Because photons have
no mass, supposedly.
818
00:51:09,590 --> 00:51:10,920
So they're unaffected.
819
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,450
So it means that any
information, any telemetry
820
00:51:13,450 --> 00:51:15,530
that you send back and
forth to your computer.
821
00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:16,880
Doesn't matter if the
computer functions
822
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,890
at the superconducting
level, because it just
823
00:51:18,890 --> 00:51:22,360
makes it faster, more
efficient, smarter.
824
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,020
But you want to be able to
control the aircraft so it
825
00:51:25,020 --> 00:51:26,162
doesn't crash.
826
00:51:26,162 --> 00:51:27,370
What's the best way to do it?
827
00:51:27,370 --> 00:51:28,520
With fiberoptics.
828
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,030
A second innovation
involves the delicate task
829
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:34,400
of monitoring composite surfaces
against pressure, stress,
830
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,170
strain, and chemical
decomposition.
831
00:51:37,170 --> 00:51:39,030
This is often achieved
through a series
832
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:41,550
of vibrating sensors
located along lengths
833
00:51:41,550 --> 00:51:43,280
of fiberoptics,
which are embedded
834
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,350
into composite materials.
835
00:51:45,350 --> 00:51:49,080
However, NASA has increased the
sensing locations exponentially
836
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,160
from what is
currently available.
837
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,610
Applications for the macrofiber
composite are almost limitless.
838
00:52:00,940 --> 00:52:04,190
They had a big black curtain
that divided the hangar
839
00:52:04,190 --> 00:52:07,420
into two different areas.
840
00:52:07,420 --> 00:52:12,410
And behind these curtains
was another big area.
841
00:52:12,410 --> 00:52:15,650
And inside this area, they
had all the lights turned off.
842
00:52:15,650 --> 00:52:17,150
And they go in,
they turn lights on.
843
00:52:17,150 --> 00:52:20,760
Here are three flying
saucers floating off
844
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,760
the floor, no cable suspended
from the ceiling holding them
845
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,570
up, no landing gear
underneath, just floating,
846
00:52:26,570 --> 00:52:27,930
hovering above the floor.
847
00:52:27,930 --> 00:52:30,200
Deann Davis with United
Press International.
848
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,040
Could you please
address the vehicle
849
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,560
that there was a
drawing displayed of.
850
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,250
Why would this vehicle be
on display at an air show?
851
00:52:39,250 --> 00:52:41,240
There was one facility
at Norton Air Force
852
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:43,520
Base that was close hold.
853
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,200
Not even the wing
commander there
854
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,540
could know what was going on.
855
00:52:46,540 --> 00:52:48,130
He said there
were three vehicles.
856
00:52:48,130 --> 00:52:50,702
The first one, the smallest one,
the one most partially taken
857
00:52:50,702 --> 00:52:52,660
apart, the one that was
shown in the video that
858
00:52:52,660 --> 00:52:56,250
was running in this hangar,
November 12th, 1988 at Norton
859
00:52:56,250 --> 00:52:59,700
Air Force Base,
was about 24 feet
860
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:01,620
in diameter, its
widest part right
861
00:53:01,620 --> 00:53:03,140
at the base of that flange.
862
00:53:03,140 --> 00:53:05,920
And during that time
period throughout my career,
863
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,680
it was always
rumored by the pilots
864
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,440
that that was a
cover for in fact,
865
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,190
location of one UFO craft.
866
00:53:14,190 --> 00:53:16,360
And they had little
exhibits and a TV,
867
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,240
a little videotape
running showing
868
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:21,280
the smallest of the three
vehicles sitting out
869
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,430
in the desert, presumably
over a dry lake bed
870
00:53:24,430 --> 00:53:26,480
someplace like Area 51.
871
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,300
And it showed this
vehicle making
872
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:32,980
three little quick
hopping motions like that
873
00:53:32,980 --> 00:53:35,200
and then accelerating
straight up and out of sight
874
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,120
until you couldn't
see it, completely
875
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,730
disappearing from view in
just a couple of seconds.
876
00:53:39,730 --> 00:53:41,180
Yes, there were craft there.
877
00:53:41,180 --> 00:53:42,955
I talked to others
that have worked on it.
878
00:53:42,955 --> 00:53:44,770
There's different levels there.
879
00:53:44,770 --> 00:53:46,190
And the reason
for that location
880
00:53:46,190 --> 00:53:50,220
was folks that could
come out, land at Norton,
881
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:53,410
play golf, be part of a
golf tournament, so forth,
882
00:53:53,410 --> 00:53:56,170
and during that process
could go by the facility
883
00:53:56,170 --> 00:53:57,880
and actually see the UFO.
884
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,682
So obviously,
this is a vehicle
885
00:54:00,682 --> 00:54:02,390
that not only is
capable of flying around
886
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:03,931
through the atmosphere,
but it's also
887
00:54:03,931 --> 00:54:07,010
capable of going out to
space and collecting samples.
888
00:54:07,010 --> 00:54:09,360
And it's using a type
of propulsion system
889
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,480
that doesn't make any noise.
890
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,280
As far as you can see,
it had no moving parts.
891
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,970
Didn't have any exhaust
gases or fuel to be expended.
892
00:54:16,970 --> 00:54:18,980
It was just there, hovering.
893
00:54:18,980 --> 00:54:21,630
In a few instances, I
can say there are clearly
894
00:54:21,630 --> 00:54:24,410
overunity electromagnetic
devices, things
895
00:54:24,410 --> 00:54:27,920
that produce more electrical
energy out than in.
896
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,910
This is an alien
reproduction vehicle.
897
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:32,260
And just to be clear,
this means that it
898
00:54:32,260 --> 00:54:36,250
is based on advanced antigravity
and zero point energy
899
00:54:36,250 --> 00:54:37,600
propulsion systems.
900
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,310
The next biggest one was 60
feet in diameter at the base.
901
00:54:41,310 --> 00:54:45,460
There are corporations such
as SAIC, Lockheed Martin,
902
00:54:45,460 --> 00:54:49,380
Northrop, and others that deal
specifically with this issue,
903
00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:50,840
with advanced energy
and propulsion
904
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,960
systems connected to UFOs.
905
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,600
And I think that
what has happened,
906
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,280
from the best we can tell, from
insiders that have briefed me
907
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,580
for now about eight years,
is that we have lost control
908
00:55:01,580 --> 00:55:04,690
of these projects from a
constitutional law perspective,
909
00:55:04,690 --> 00:55:07,510
because the infrastructure
within military intelligence
910
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:10,940
and corporate channels
is so well-funded and so
911
00:55:10,940 --> 00:55:12,900
complex and
labyrinthine that there
912
00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:14,560
are compartments
within compartments
913
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,850
within compartments.
914
00:55:15,850 --> 00:55:18,440
And people who are in the
Congress who make inquiries,
915
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,020
and in fact, President Clinton,
when he made inquiries,
916
00:55:21,020 --> 00:55:23,380
were simply denied access,
as you heard earlier
917
00:55:23,380 --> 00:55:25,670
that President Carter
was denied access.
918
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:27,720
Oh, by the way, the
largest of three vehicles
919
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:30,660
was about 120 to 130
feet in diameter.
920
00:55:30,660 --> 00:55:32,750
That's massive when
you think about it.
921
00:55:32,750 --> 00:55:33,630
It's just huge.
922
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:36,250
The reason it's called
alien reproduction vehicle
923
00:55:36,250 --> 00:55:38,860
is that it's based on the study
of extraterrestrial vehicles,
924
00:55:38,860 --> 00:55:43,030
but it is manufactured by
human military intelligence,
925
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:45,140
aerospace contracting
arrangements.
926
00:55:45,140 --> 00:55:46,890
We are not in
Kansas any longer.
927
00:56:25,390 --> 00:56:28,870
Brad said that in this
exhibit, at Norton Air Force,
928
00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:31,950
a three star general said
that these vehicles were
929
00:56:31,950 --> 00:56:35,370
capable of doing
light speed or better.
930
00:56:35,370 --> 00:56:39,440
I think they made
a mistake at Roswell.
931
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,855
Rather than admitting
it, they covered it.
932
00:56:51,615 --> 00:56:54,095
Gemini Seven, Houston,
how do you read?
933
00:56:54,095 --> 00:56:56,830
Loud and clear,
Seven-- go ahead.
934
00:56:56,830 --> 00:56:59,404
Get Bogey at 10:00 high.
935
00:56:59,404 --> 00:57:00,356
This is Houston.
936
00:57:00,356 --> 00:57:01,790
Say again, Seven?
937
00:57:01,790 --> 00:57:05,115
I said we have a
bogey at 10:00 high.
938
00:57:05,115 --> 00:57:07,204
Roger.
939
00:57:07,204 --> 00:57:08,370
Gemini Control here again.
940
00:57:08,370 --> 00:57:13,964
Got the reference in that
conversation was a bogey.
941
00:57:13,964 --> 00:57:19,655
It was Borman who reported
sighting the Bogey.
942
00:57:19,655 --> 00:57:22,690
This is Gemini Control
at Houston at four hours
943
00:57:22,690 --> 00:57:24,190
24 minutes into the flight.
944
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,200
Our moon is an object that
exists in our immediate space.
945
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,340
For years, there have
been anomalies recorded
946
00:58:02,340 --> 00:58:05,610
such as mysterious lights,
flashes, and objects
947
00:58:05,610 --> 00:58:07,840
that have been seen by
astronomers here on Earth.
948
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:14,370
NASA released a compilation
of these recorded reports
949
00:58:14,370 --> 00:58:16,090
prior to the first moon mission.
950
00:58:19,890 --> 00:58:23,610
In 1962, Carl Sagan
spoke on the possibility
951
00:58:23,610 --> 00:58:26,270
of discovering alien
artifacts on the moon,
952
00:58:26,270 --> 00:58:29,550
stating that forthcoming
photographic reconnaissance
953
00:58:29,550 --> 00:58:33,245
of the moon from space vehicles,
particularly the far side,
954
00:58:33,245 --> 00:58:34,870
might bear these
possibilities in mind.
955
00:58:41,050 --> 00:58:43,650
Rectangular patterns
on air space photos
956
00:58:43,650 --> 00:58:45,950
are recognized as
signs of human culture
957
00:58:45,950 --> 00:58:50,470
in the remote sensing of the
Earth and air archaeology.
958
00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:52,550
It seems reasonable
then to search
959
00:58:52,550 --> 00:58:57,820
for rectangular patterns
on the moon or on Mars.
960
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,960
I walked into the photo
lab in the restricted area,
961
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,030
and this was between missions.
962
01:00:38,030 --> 01:00:40,060
One of the gentlemen I
had been friends with,
963
01:00:40,060 --> 01:00:43,600
and I still talk
to occasionally,
964
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,400
he pointed to one
area of this mosaic.
965
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,070
It was one panel of a mosaic.
966
01:00:49,070 --> 01:00:51,600
And I looked, and in
one of the photo panels,
967
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,620
I saw a round, white dot.
968
01:00:54,620 --> 01:00:58,550
And at the time, it was very
crisp, very sharp lines on it.
969
01:00:58,550 --> 01:01:02,480
And I said to him, what is that?
970
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,370
Is that a dot on the emulsion?
971
01:01:04,370 --> 01:01:08,860
And then he's grinning, and
he says, dots on the emulsion
972
01:01:08,860 --> 01:01:10,840
don't leave round
shadows on the ground.
973
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,830
And there was a round
shadow at the right angle,
974
01:01:13,830 --> 01:01:16,370
at the correct angle, the
sun shining on the trees.
975
01:01:16,370 --> 01:01:17,640
I saw pine trees.
976
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,840
I didn't see a coastline.
977
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,580
I don't know where this was.
978
01:01:20,580 --> 01:01:24,210
And I said, is this a UFO?
979
01:01:24,210 --> 01:01:27,880
And he's smiling at me and he
says, I can't tell you that.
980
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,100
I can't tell you that.
981
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:33,680
What I knew he meant was, it
was, but he couldn't tell me.
982
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,610
So I said, what are you going
to do with this information?
983
01:01:36,610 --> 01:01:39,320
And he said, well, we always
have to airbrush them out
984
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,530
before we sell
them to the public.
985
01:01:43,530 --> 01:01:47,180
In 1965, they had
problems with a piece
986
01:01:47,180 --> 01:01:51,640
of electronic equipment that was
bottlenecking their production
987
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,540
of photographs.
988
01:01:53,540 --> 01:01:56,370
I was taken into the laboratory
where the equipment was
989
01:01:56,370 --> 01:01:57,430
malfunctioning.
990
01:01:57,430 --> 01:02:02,140
An airman second class was
in the darkroom at that time.
991
01:02:02,140 --> 01:02:03,840
About 30 minutes
into the process,
992
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,050
he said to me, in a very
distressed away, by the way,
993
01:02:08,050 --> 01:02:10,536
we've discovered a base on
the back side of the room.
994
01:02:10,536 --> 01:02:12,410
And then he proceeded
to put photographs down
995
01:02:12,410 --> 01:02:13,210
in front of me.
996
01:02:13,210 --> 01:02:15,120
And clearly in these
photographs were
997
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:19,620
structures, mushroom-shaped
buildings, spherical buildings,
998
01:02:19,620 --> 01:02:21,058
and towers.
999
01:02:21,058 --> 01:02:25,540
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1000
01:05:13,390 --> 01:05:16,440
In 1959, the US
Army completed a plan
1001
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,820
for a manned military
outpost on the moon.
1002
01:05:19,820 --> 01:05:21,790
The Horizon Lunar
Outpost was said
1003
01:05:21,790 --> 01:05:24,410
to be necessary to
protect United States
1004
01:05:24,410 --> 01:05:26,830
interests on the moon,
to conduct moon base
1005
01:05:26,830 --> 01:05:29,460
surveillance of the
Earth and space,
1006
01:05:29,460 --> 01:05:31,620
to act as a
communications relay,
1007
01:05:31,620 --> 01:05:35,530
and to serve as a base for
exploration of the moon.
1008
01:05:35,530 --> 01:05:37,880
The permanent outpost
would cost $6 billion
1009
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:44,730
and become operational in
December 1966 with 12 soldiers.
1010
01:05:44,730 --> 01:05:47,040
The base would be defended
against a Russian overland
1011
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,950
attack by manned fired weapons.
1012
01:05:49,950 --> 01:05:52,230
The Apollo program
began only two years
1013
01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:54,080
after the Horizon Report.
1014
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,520
But a moon base would not
have been established earlier
1015
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,170
than the 1970s.
1016
01:06:00,170 --> 01:06:03,230
During the discussion of
UFOs, the question ultimately is
1017
01:06:03,230 --> 01:06:07,160
going to come up,
can any government
1018
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,050
keep secrets, let alone
the US government?
1019
01:06:10,050 --> 01:06:12,580
And the answer to that
is unequivocally yes.
1020
01:06:12,580 --> 01:06:14,650
People in high
level government
1021
01:06:14,650 --> 01:06:19,170
have very, very little, if any
information, valid information,
1022
01:06:19,170 --> 01:06:20,180
about this.
1023
01:06:20,180 --> 01:06:23,090
Most have no more knowledge
than the man in the street.
1024
01:06:23,090 --> 01:06:26,140
There's always been what
they call the need to know.
1025
01:06:26,140 --> 01:06:31,250
They keep pretty much each
organization an island unto
1026
01:06:31,250 --> 01:06:32,120
itself.
1027
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,150
I looked at him, and
I was pretty startled
1028
01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:36,770
because I'd worked out
there several years
1029
01:06:36,770 --> 01:06:39,800
and never seen anything
like this, never heard
1030
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,400
of anything like this.
1031
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,600
I had a top secret
crypto clearance.
1032
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:52,130
And I could go into areas where
my commanders, some commanders
1033
01:06:52,130 --> 01:06:53,200
could not even get in.
1034
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,870
He was a civilian, but
had done a lot of work
1035
01:06:56,870 --> 01:07:01,330
with NASA, on a lot of
committees and what have you.
1036
01:07:01,330 --> 01:07:04,220
And I think his problem
was the fact that he
1037
01:07:04,220 --> 01:07:05,680
hadn't heard about this.
1038
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:06,760
They can't get in
there because they
1039
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,635
don't have the need to
know, even though they
1040
01:07:08,635 --> 01:07:11,180
had the same clearance as the
guy that gets to go in there.
1041
01:07:11,180 --> 01:07:14,670
He knew that he was very
important because he was
1042
01:07:14,670 --> 01:07:17,370
in a lot of committees in NASA.
1043
01:07:17,370 --> 01:07:19,560
And since he was very
important, but hadn't
1044
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,630
heard about this thing,
this couldn't be true.
1045
01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:25,010
The UFO secrets
can be kept secret
1046
01:07:25,010 --> 01:07:28,020
from other people who have
the same security clearance.
1047
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:32,370
And then he said a
very curious thing.
1048
01:07:32,370 --> 01:07:35,977
"I wouldn't believe it
even if it was real."
1049
01:07:35,977 --> 01:07:37,810
This is a direct quote
from his email to me.
1050
01:07:37,810 --> 01:07:40,170
"I would not believe this
even if it was real."
1051
01:07:40,170 --> 01:07:43,470
And the truth is,
they have hidden
1052
01:07:43,470 --> 01:07:46,670
things like UFO and
extraterrestrial information
1053
01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:51,020
from us for years, not
just the current era,
1054
01:07:51,020 --> 01:07:53,860
but back before the 1900s.
1055
01:07:53,860 --> 01:07:59,340
There's about 38
levels above top secret.
1056
01:07:59,340 --> 01:08:02,000
The highest is cosmic.
1057
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,760
That's OK.
1058
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:09,350
I'll tell you right now,
that's UFOs, aliens,
1059
01:08:09,350 --> 01:08:12,280
and particalization.
1060
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,530
Now, like you heard
a while ago, there's
1061
01:08:15,530 --> 01:08:19,970
only probably about 25 people
in the world that know things
1062
01:08:19,970 --> 01:08:21,810
that are known at that level.
1063
01:08:21,810 --> 01:08:25,779
No president has had
that level, has ever
1064
01:08:25,779 --> 01:08:29,090
been cleared for that level.
1065
01:08:29,090 --> 01:08:31,410
Eisenhower was the closest.
1066
01:08:31,410 --> 01:08:36,189
Eisenhower wanted
somebody to be in charge.
1067
01:08:36,189 --> 01:08:43,870
He tried the CIA director
and it didn't work.
1068
01:08:43,870 --> 01:08:47,779
The CIA was working
primarily for itself.
1069
01:08:47,779 --> 01:08:50,779
Most of the intelligence
director of the service
1070
01:08:50,779 --> 01:08:52,420
is working for themselves.
1071
01:08:52,420 --> 01:08:56,760
What happened was
Eisenhower got sold out.
1072
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:00,670
I think that he realized that
all of a sudden, this matter
1073
01:09:00,670 --> 01:09:06,430
is going into the
control of corporations.
1074
01:09:06,430 --> 01:09:09,950
He realized that he
was losing control.
1075
01:09:09,950 --> 01:09:14,740
He realized that this
phenomenon of whatever it
1076
01:09:14,740 --> 01:09:18,979
was that we were
faced with was not
1077
01:09:18,979 --> 01:09:20,560
going to be in the best hands.
1078
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,779
As far as I can remember,
that was the expression
1079
01:09:23,779 --> 01:09:25,069
that was used.
1080
01:09:25,069 --> 01:09:27,750
It's not going to be
in the best hands.
1081
01:09:27,750 --> 01:09:29,790
He had our best
interests in mind,
1082
01:09:29,790 --> 01:09:31,520
and was a very loving person.
1083
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,234
And what I love about
this family too,
1084
01:09:34,234 --> 01:09:35,109
is we're very humble.
1085
01:09:35,109 --> 01:09:37,850
He grew up on a farm,
felt this calling.
1086
01:09:37,850 --> 01:09:40,779
His family didn't
necessarily agree with him,
1087
01:09:40,779 --> 01:09:43,689
and just rose into the
position he was in,
1088
01:09:43,689 --> 01:09:45,420
became a five star general.
1089
01:09:45,420 --> 01:09:49,479
And it wasn't really a part of
the fabric of the global elite.
1090
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,680
He was fighting against
that false power structure.
1091
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,590
In the councils
of government, we
1092
01:09:54,590 --> 01:09:56,890
must guard against
the acquisition
1093
01:09:56,890 --> 01:10:00,560
of unwarranted influence,
whether sought or unsought,
1094
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,220
by the military
industrial complex.
1095
01:10:04,220 --> 01:10:07,540
The potential for the disastrous
rise of misplaced power
1096
01:10:07,540 --> 01:10:10,850
exists and will persist.
1097
01:10:10,850 --> 01:10:13,270
We must never let the
weight of this combination
1098
01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:17,010
this endanger our liberties
our democratic processes.
1099
01:10:17,010 --> 01:10:19,760
We should take
nothing for granted.
1100
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,980
Only an alert and
knowledgeable citizenry
1101
01:10:22,980 --> 01:10:27,090
can compel the proper meshing
of the huge industrial and
1102
01:10:27,090 --> 01:10:30,790
military machinery of defense
with our peaceful methods
1103
01:10:30,790 --> 01:10:31,770
and goals.
1104
01:10:31,770 --> 01:10:38,470
And so it was organized
under the name the NRO.
1105
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:41,270
You couldn't mention NRO.
1106
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:44,770
NRO, National
Reconnaissance Office,
1107
01:10:44,770 --> 01:10:47,336
basically run by the Air Force.
1108
01:10:47,336 --> 01:10:50,750
The Reconnaissance Office,
from my understanding
1109
01:10:50,750 --> 01:10:54,570
of people that have had
contacts with since I retired,
1110
01:10:54,570 --> 01:10:58,060
has taken on a lot more
responsibility, particularly
1111
01:10:58,060 --> 01:11:01,020
towards UFO and
extraterrestrial activities.
1112
01:11:01,020 --> 01:11:04,210
You could say that they picked
up where Blue Book dropped off.
1113
01:11:04,210 --> 01:11:06,150
If you're on
that level, there's
1114
01:11:06,150 --> 01:11:10,310
an organization
worldwide called ACIO.
1115
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:14,710
That's Alien Contact
Intelligence Organization.
1116
01:11:14,710 --> 01:11:18,740
If you pay your dues and
you follow the rules,
1117
01:11:18,740 --> 01:11:20,750
you can benefit.
1118
01:11:20,750 --> 01:11:22,540
Your government is
allowed to benefit
1119
01:11:22,540 --> 01:11:26,310
from that organization's
information.
1120
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:30,550
Henry Kissinger headed
some sort of a study group
1121
01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:35,230
back in the '50s to
study the ramifications
1122
01:11:35,230 --> 01:11:39,700
of this information
if it had leaked
1123
01:11:39,700 --> 01:11:41,410
through a credible source.
1124
01:11:41,410 --> 01:11:44,910
In fact, Jimmy Carter was
not brought into the loop.
1125
01:11:44,910 --> 01:11:49,150
For some reason, the
group, the control group,
1126
01:11:49,150 --> 01:11:52,060
they don't trust the
guy for some reason.
1127
01:11:52,060 --> 01:11:53,310
They don't trust Jimmy Carter.
1128
01:11:53,310 --> 01:11:56,850
They were afraid that he would
come out and make statements,
1129
01:11:56,850 --> 01:11:59,880
blanketed statements
to the news media.
1130
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,570
I was contacted by
Miss Marcia Smith,
1131
01:12:03,570 --> 01:12:07,230
who was the director of the
Science and Technology Division
1132
01:12:07,230 --> 01:12:10,090
of the Congressional
Research Service.
1133
01:12:10,090 --> 01:12:12,400
She asked to meet with me.
1134
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,380
And I met with her,
and she informed me
1135
01:12:14,380 --> 01:12:18,010
that President Carter,
upon taking office
1136
01:12:18,010 --> 01:12:22,820
in January of 1977, held a
meeting with then the director
1137
01:12:22,820 --> 01:12:27,250
of Central Intelligence,
who was George Bush Sr.
1138
01:12:27,250 --> 01:12:30,560
and demanded that the director
of Central Intelligence
1139
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,770
turn over to the president
the classified information
1140
01:12:33,770 --> 01:12:36,661
about unidentified flying
objects and the information
1141
01:12:36,661 --> 01:12:39,160
that was in the possession of
the United States intelligence
1142
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,730
community concerning
the existence
1143
01:12:40,730 --> 01:12:43,460
of extraterrestrial
intelligence.
1144
01:12:43,460 --> 01:12:46,830
This information was refused
to the President of the United
1145
01:12:46,830 --> 01:12:50,070
States by the director of
Central Intelligence, George
1146
01:12:50,070 --> 01:13:04,120
Bush, Sr.
1147
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,790
He told us we could not talk
about this to anyone, including
1148
01:13:07,790 --> 01:13:16,300
any of the other crews or
our spouses, our family, even
1149
01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:17,320
amongst each other.
1150
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,690
So we could not
discuss this at all.
1151
01:13:20,690 --> 01:13:23,090
In the military,
they do ridicule you,
1152
01:13:23,090 --> 01:13:26,070
because I was
ridiculed a few times.
1153
01:13:26,070 --> 01:13:29,790
I was told I would never
make master sergeant.
1154
01:13:29,790 --> 01:13:31,587
I was on orders
for tech, but I was
1155
01:13:31,587 --> 01:13:33,420
told I would never make
master sergeant if I
1156
01:13:33,420 --> 01:13:35,800
brought this trap up again.
1157
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,910
The pilots that had seen
things had talked about it.
1158
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:41,460
Some of them were let go.
1159
01:13:41,460 --> 01:13:43,920
Some of them were
released from their flying
1160
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,810
and treated as nut cases
and things like that.
1161
01:13:47,810 --> 01:13:50,590
At times I used to
carry nuclear weapons.
1162
01:13:50,590 --> 01:13:57,080
In other words, I was mentally
fit to carry nuclear weapons,
1163
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,700
and I'm not mentally
fit if I see a UFO.
1164
01:14:00,700 --> 01:14:04,360
Well, this criticism and
this ridicule has, I think,
1165
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,250
done more to keep
the story coming out
1166
01:14:06,250 --> 01:14:08,400
than almost anything else.
1167
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:13,020
It had been discussed with me
on numerous occasions, talked
1168
01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:17,170
about what could
happen to me militarily
1169
01:14:17,170 --> 01:14:20,100
and what could happen to
me even if I discussed this
1170
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:21,210
as a civilian.
1171
01:14:21,210 --> 01:14:25,450
That subject just was dropped.
1172
01:14:25,450 --> 01:14:28,780
It just wasn't discussed.
1173
01:14:28,780 --> 01:14:32,150
Anything to discredit you,
and you'd never get a promotion.
1174
01:14:32,150 --> 01:14:34,830
And I'd would spend the
next three and 1/2 years up
1175
01:14:34,830 --> 01:14:39,190
to the North Pole, flipping in a
tent checking weather balloons.
1176
01:14:39,190 --> 01:14:41,460
I've made no money from this.
1177
01:14:41,460 --> 01:14:43,500
I've got nothing but
pain and suffering
1178
01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:45,150
out it, out of talking about it.
1179
01:14:45,150 --> 01:14:49,140
I've been harassed at my home.
1180
01:14:49,140 --> 01:14:52,410
This was used against me
partially in losing a job once,
1181
01:14:52,410 --> 01:14:53,690
in teaching.
1182
01:14:53,690 --> 01:14:56,030
I've had a hell of a time
after I've told this story.
1183
01:14:56,030 --> 01:14:57,450
But I continue to
tell this story
1184
01:14:57,450 --> 01:14:59,158
because I think it's
important for people
1185
01:14:59,158 --> 01:15:02,520
to understand that this sort of
shit goes on in the government.
1186
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,330
He was sorry he
wrote the book.
1187
01:15:05,330 --> 01:15:10,250
He was sorry he exposed
the family to the ridicule,
1188
01:15:10,250 --> 01:15:11,740
to the lawsuits.
1189
01:15:11,740 --> 01:15:14,270
It's been very tough
on our entire family.
1190
01:15:14,270 --> 01:15:18,450
He did not want to die leaving
us with these problems.
1191
01:15:18,450 --> 01:15:23,080
Just hope that the future
people such as yourself and me
1192
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,370
will know what to do with
this type of knowledge
1193
01:15:26,370 --> 01:15:27,700
that this man brought forward.
1194
01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:30,660
I do say that he is the
first man to come forward
1195
01:15:30,660 --> 01:15:31,495
in a high capacity.
1196
01:15:53,610 --> 01:15:56,810
Measures have been
taken by agencies
1197
01:15:56,810 --> 01:16:01,400
to terminate people
who appear to be
1198
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:05,560
inconvenient or troublesome
through knowing too much.
1199
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,380
I would go
interview people that
1200
01:16:07,380 --> 01:16:11,780
claimed they had seen something
and try to convince them
1201
01:16:11,780 --> 01:16:15,730
that they hadn't seen
something or they were
1202
01:16:15,730 --> 01:16:17,590
hallucinating or something.
1203
01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:20,870
Well, if that didn't
work, another team
1204
01:16:20,870 --> 01:16:24,840
would come in, give
all the threats,
1205
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,840
and threaten them, their
family, so on and so forth.
1206
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,440
And they would be in
charge of discrediting
1207
01:16:30,440 --> 01:16:33,440
them, making them look
foolish or so on and so forth.
1208
01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:35,640
Now, if that didn't
work, then there
1209
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,500
was another team that put
an end to that problem one
1210
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:40,300
way or the other.
1211
01:16:43,220 --> 01:16:46,150
Secretary of
Defense Forrestal was
1212
01:16:46,150 --> 01:16:50,750
the first real,
powerful, known person
1213
01:16:50,750 --> 01:16:53,220
that was eliminated
because he was going
1214
01:16:53,220 --> 01:16:56,300
to release the information.
1215
01:16:56,300 --> 01:16:59,850
And nobody has ever
paid for that crime.
1216
01:16:59,850 --> 01:17:02,950
A crime had never been really
thoroughly investigated
1217
01:17:02,950 --> 01:17:07,190
by forces to see
what happened to him.
1218
01:17:07,190 --> 01:17:11,430
But most people know
that he was thrown
1219
01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:13,920
out the window of the hospital.
1220
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,180
And he wasn't killed by
being thrown out the window,
1221
01:17:17,180 --> 01:17:20,900
but he never got up alive.
1222
01:17:20,900 --> 01:17:26,100
He was talking
about being erased.
1223
01:17:28,780 --> 01:17:31,000
And I said, man, I said,
what do you mean, erased?
1224
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:31,800
He said, yes.
1225
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,590
He said, you will be erased.
1226
01:17:35,590 --> 01:17:38,370
I said, how do
you know all this,
1227
01:17:38,370 --> 01:17:39,840
or something to that effect.
1228
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,960
And he said, I know.
1229
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,660
He said, they'll go after
not only you, he said,
1230
01:17:45,660 --> 01:17:49,250
they'll go after your family.
1231
01:17:49,250 --> 01:17:50,550
Those were his words.
1232
01:18:40,837 --> 01:18:43,420
And they're yelling at me and
they're hollering and cursing,
1233
01:18:43,420 --> 01:18:45,590
and you didn't see
anything, and we'll
1234
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:47,480
do you and your
whole goddamn family.
1235
01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:51,690
And it was basically that for
about eight or nine hours.
1236
01:18:51,690 --> 01:18:54,720
These guys, they're
just off on their own.
1237
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:56,560
There's no oversight,
no control.
1238
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,010
They just do whatever they want.
1239
01:18:59,010 --> 01:19:00,070
And they're evil.
1240
01:19:00,070 --> 01:19:02,290
These people are evil.
1241
01:19:02,290 --> 01:19:06,220
Basically it's
an oversight group
1242
01:19:06,220 --> 01:19:08,780
intermingled with
the National Security
1243
01:19:08,780 --> 01:19:11,710
Council and the National
Security Planning Group.
1244
01:19:11,710 --> 01:19:13,270
They have full control.
1245
01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:17,090
They have no congressional
oversight whatsoever.
1246
01:19:17,090 --> 01:19:19,980
They answer to nobody,
except for the President
1247
01:19:19,980 --> 01:19:20,970
of the United States.
1248
01:19:20,970 --> 01:19:26,050
But they're trying to push it
aside away from the president.
1249
01:19:26,050 --> 01:19:30,230
When I was a corporate manager
of Fairchild Industries in 1974
1250
01:19:30,230 --> 01:19:36,960
through '77, I met the late Dr.
Wernher Von Braun in early '74.
1251
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:41,700
At that time, Von Braun
was dying of cancer.
1252
01:19:41,700 --> 01:19:44,710
But he assured me that he would
live a few more years in order
1253
01:19:44,710 --> 01:19:47,550
to tell me about the game
that was being played,
1254
01:19:47,550 --> 01:19:51,270
that game being the
effort to weaponize space.
1255
01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:56,522
Weapons in space is
still a big enigma,
1256
01:19:56,522 --> 01:19:58,720
black covert operations.
1257
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,680
Von Braun's purpose in
life during the last years
1258
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,070
of his life, his
dying years, was
1259
01:20:04,070 --> 01:20:06,010
to educate the
public and decision
1260
01:20:06,010 --> 01:20:09,170
makers about why
space-based weapons are
1261
01:20:09,170 --> 01:20:12,730
dumb, dangerous,
destabilizing, too costly,
1262
01:20:12,730 --> 01:20:16,750
unnecessary,
unworkable, undesirable.
1263
01:20:16,750 --> 01:20:19,420
The strategy that Wernher
Von Braun taught me was that,
1264
01:20:19,420 --> 01:20:22,380
first, the Russians are going to
be considered to be the enemy.
1265
01:20:22,380 --> 01:20:24,020
In fact, when I met
him in '74, they
1266
01:20:24,020 --> 01:20:26,650
were the enemy, the
identified enemy.
1267
01:20:26,650 --> 01:20:28,870
We were told that they
had killer satellites.
1268
01:20:28,870 --> 01:20:30,340
We were told that
they were coming
1269
01:20:30,340 --> 01:20:32,740
to get us and control
us, the dirty commies,
1270
01:20:32,740 --> 01:20:33,684
that whole story.
1271
01:20:33,684 --> 01:20:35,100
First, the Russians
were the enemy
1272
01:20:35,100 --> 01:20:36,835
against whom we were going
to build space-based weapons.
1273
01:20:36,835 --> 01:20:38,940
The ballistic
missile defense system
1274
01:20:38,940 --> 01:20:43,820
is probably a pipe
dream in the sense
1275
01:20:43,820 --> 01:20:49,705
that if what it's
designed for is that you
1276
01:20:49,705 --> 01:20:51,640
know where it's coming from.
1277
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,770
And when we had Russia,
there was a 50/50 chance
1278
01:20:54,770 --> 01:20:58,580
that you knew about where
it would be coming from.
1279
01:20:58,580 --> 01:21:02,730
In 1977, I was at a meeting
in Fairchild Industries
1280
01:21:02,730 --> 01:21:05,510
in a conference room
called the war room.
1281
01:21:05,510 --> 01:21:08,500
And in that room were a
lot of charts on the wall,
1282
01:21:08,500 --> 01:21:10,740
with enemies,
identified enemies,
1283
01:21:10,740 --> 01:21:12,320
names that people
had never heard of,
1284
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,570
names like Saddam
Hussein and Gaddafi.
1285
01:21:14,570 --> 01:21:17,450
But we were talking
then about terrorists,
1286
01:21:17,450 --> 01:21:19,200
the potential terrorists.
1287
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,510
No one had ever talked
about this before,
1288
01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:24,550
but this was the next
stage after the Russians,
1289
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:27,320
against whom we were going
to build space-based weapons,
1290
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:28,402
these terrorists.
1291
01:21:28,402 --> 01:21:29,860
They wanted a
weapons system they
1292
01:21:29,860 --> 01:21:34,400
could put in space that would
stop a ballistic missile.
1293
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:35,360
That was the concept.
1294
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:39,020
This was 1977, and
they were talking
1295
01:21:39,020 --> 01:21:44,030
about creating a war in
the Gulf region, when there
1296
01:21:44,030 --> 01:21:47,290
was $25 billion in the
space-based weapons
1297
01:21:47,290 --> 01:21:50,910
program that yet had
not been identified.
1298
01:21:50,910 --> 01:21:53,980
It wasn't called the Strategic
Defense Initiative at least
1299
01:21:53,980 --> 01:21:56,240
until 1983.
1300
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,410
This weapons system
then had obviously
1301
01:21:58,410 --> 01:22:00,680
been going on for
some time, that I
1302
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:01,920
didn't know anything about.
1303
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,100
When Star Wars was brought
out as an idea, which
1304
01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:10,110
was before Reagan
actually, and incorporated
1305
01:22:10,110 --> 01:22:13,760
into his administration, it
became pretty much window
1306
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,080
dressing, people would call it.
1307
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,750
But there was a lot
of truth behind what
1308
01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:18,708
they were trying to do.
1309
01:22:18,708 --> 01:22:21,310
They knew the basic principle
of what they wanted to do.
1310
01:22:21,310 --> 01:22:25,260
So I stood up in this
meeting in 1977 and said,
1311
01:22:25,260 --> 01:22:28,100
I'd like to know
why we're talking
1312
01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:31,316
about space-based weapons
against these enemies.
1313
01:22:31,316 --> 01:22:32,690
I'd like to know
more about this.
1314
01:22:32,690 --> 01:22:35,670
Would somebody tell
me what this is about?
1315
01:22:35,670 --> 01:22:36,920
Nobody answered.
1316
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:38,470
They went on with
this meeting as
1317
01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:39,790
though I hadn't said anything.
1318
01:22:39,790 --> 01:22:42,050
We heard a lot about terrorism.
1319
01:22:42,050 --> 01:22:45,600
Then we were going to identify
third world country crazies.
1320
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,520
We now call them
nations of concern.
1321
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,540
With the rogue
nations we have today,
1322
01:22:50,540 --> 01:22:52,380
it's absolutely ludicrous.
1323
01:22:52,380 --> 01:22:55,380
But he said that would be
the third enemy against whom
1324
01:22:55,380 --> 01:22:58,980
we would be needing to
build space-based weapons.
1325
01:22:58,980 --> 01:23:02,320
And the next enemy
was asteroids.
1326
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,420
Now, at this point,
he kind of chuckled
1327
01:23:04,420 --> 01:23:06,230
the first time he said it.
1328
01:23:06,230 --> 01:23:08,140
Asteroids-- against
asteroids we're
1329
01:23:08,140 --> 01:23:09,940
going to build
space-based weapons.
1330
01:23:09,940 --> 01:23:12,050
So it was funny then.
1331
01:23:12,050 --> 01:23:15,030
And the funniest one of all
was against what he called
1332
01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:16,790
aliens, extraterrestrials.
1333
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:19,240
That would be the final card.
1334
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:23,460
And over and over and
over during the four years
1335
01:23:23,460 --> 01:23:27,570
that I knew him and was
giving his speeches for him,
1336
01:23:27,570 --> 01:23:29,710
he would bring up
that last card.
1337
01:23:29,710 --> 01:23:34,050
And remember, Carol, the
last card is the alien card.
1338
01:23:34,050 --> 01:23:36,050
We're going to have to
build space-based weapons
1339
01:23:36,050 --> 01:23:37,370
against aliens.
1340
01:23:37,370 --> 01:23:40,310
And all of it, he
said, is a lie.
1341
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:45,140
Well, if they were
hostile, my own knowledge is
1342
01:23:45,140 --> 01:23:47,730
and feeling-- I don't
know about all of them--
1343
01:23:47,730 --> 01:23:51,940
is that we could have
been with their weaponry
1344
01:23:51,940 --> 01:23:55,360
as it might be used, it could
have destroyed us a long time
1345
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:56,160
ago.
1346
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:00,020
If beings can
travel in time space,
1347
01:24:00,020 --> 01:24:02,700
then anything we
would put in orbit
1348
01:24:02,700 --> 01:24:07,450
as a weapon would be like
going against Genghis
1349
01:24:07,450 --> 01:24:09,190
Khan with a firecracker.
1350
01:24:09,190 --> 01:24:11,880
Now, some would like
for us to believe and like
1351
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:16,520
to develop the idea that
the aliens and people are
1352
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,070
our enemy now.
1353
01:24:18,070 --> 01:24:19,640
But that's not true.
1354
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,950
I noticed the
satellite's positionings.
1355
01:24:21,950 --> 01:24:25,680
I said, this is supposed to
be a system that tracks radar
1356
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,640
anomalies on Earth, right?
1357
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,089
The whole thing, the movement.
1358
01:24:29,089 --> 01:24:30,130
Yep, that's what it does.
1359
01:24:30,130 --> 01:24:31,671
And I said, then
why are half of them
1360
01:24:31,671 --> 01:24:34,860
pointed towards the outer
space, towards the moon,
1361
01:24:34,860 --> 01:24:37,440
towards areas that
are just blank space?
1362
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:42,590
I have concluded that I'm
fighting against the clock,
1363
01:24:42,590 --> 01:24:46,000
that I have but a short time
to try to convince people
1364
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,740
that we are moving
in an avenue where we
1365
01:24:47,740 --> 01:24:50,190
are going to militarize space.
1366
01:24:50,190 --> 01:24:52,660
As a result of
militarizing space,
1367
01:24:52,660 --> 01:24:56,150
we are going to
acquire new technology.
1368
01:24:56,150 --> 01:24:58,240
We're going to evolve
new technology.
1369
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,450
Well, at least half of
those satellites you got up
1370
01:25:01,450 --> 01:25:03,450
there aren't looking at Earth.
1371
01:25:03,450 --> 01:25:07,610
He had received several
transmissions from the Pentagon
1372
01:25:07,610 --> 01:25:12,320
and from other satellite
monitoring stations of the NSA
1373
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:17,060
that they were tracking ETVs.
1374
01:25:17,060 --> 01:25:19,890
It stands for
Extraterrestrial Vehicles.
1375
01:25:19,890 --> 01:25:22,965
I said, what are
they looking for?
1376
01:25:22,965 --> 01:25:24,340
He says, well,
you've got to have
1377
01:25:24,340 --> 01:25:26,050
to need to know about that.
1378
01:25:26,050 --> 01:25:31,980
We put nuclear weapons out
in space as a line of defense.
1379
01:25:31,980 --> 01:25:35,780
And we were to ready to blow
them up if they started in.
1380
01:25:35,780 --> 01:25:37,452
He didn't mention a timeline.
1381
01:25:37,452 --> 01:25:38,910
But he said that
it was going to be
1382
01:25:38,910 --> 01:25:42,850
speeding up faster than
anybody could possibly imagine.
1383
01:25:49,300 --> 01:25:52,070
We just heard that in
the process of poring
1384
01:25:52,070 --> 01:25:54,110
over that heat shield,
they found three more
1385
01:25:54,110 --> 01:25:58,020
objects floating in close
proximity to the space
1386
01:25:58,020 --> 01:26:01,330
shuttle Atlantis, There
you go, one two and three.
1387
01:26:01,330 --> 01:26:04,052
Unclear what those are,
maybe a fourth there.
1388
01:26:04,052 --> 01:26:05,010
Unclear what those are.
1389
01:26:05,010 --> 01:26:06,050
Could be ice.
1390
01:26:06,050 --> 01:26:09,830
Could be little pieces
of harmless debris.
1391
01:26:09,830 --> 01:26:12,442
Worst case scenario, could
be parts of the heat shield,
1392
01:26:12,442 --> 01:26:15,740
and that is why
NASA is concerned.
1393
01:26:15,740 --> 01:26:18,190
So it's very hard
to identify what
1394
01:26:18,190 --> 01:26:19,440
those little things might be.
1395
01:27:10,350 --> 01:27:13,840
We are going to
acquire new technology.
1396
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,710
We're going to evolve
new technology that's
1397
01:27:16,710 --> 01:27:19,910
going to lead us into
interstellar travel.
1398
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:23,950
As a direct result, we will
become a threat to them
1399
01:27:23,950 --> 01:27:26,600
unless we spiritually grow also.
1400
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,475
And in a memo that I
wrote to President Bush,
1401
01:27:29,475 --> 01:27:32,770
I stated that this
campaign will persist
1402
01:27:32,770 --> 01:27:34,750
until our goals are met.
1403
01:27:34,750 --> 01:27:39,840
And they are as follows-- that
we have open, honest hearings
1404
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,870
on the subject in
the US Congress,
1405
01:27:42,870 --> 01:27:46,690
that there be a permanent ban
on the weaponization of space
1406
01:27:46,690 --> 01:27:51,610
or the targeting of any objects
of extraterrestrial origin,
1407
01:27:51,610 --> 01:27:54,740
that there be a full
and complete study
1408
01:27:54,740 --> 01:27:57,170
of classified
technologies connected
1409
01:27:57,170 --> 01:28:02,860
to this subject, specifically
technologies connected to UFO
1410
01:28:02,860 --> 01:28:05,770
and extraterrestrial vehicles.
1411
01:28:05,770 --> 01:28:10,510
If declassified, and used for
peaceful energy generation
1412
01:28:10,510 --> 01:28:14,460
and propulsion would solve
the looming energy crisis
1413
01:28:14,460 --> 01:28:15,890
definitively.
1414
01:28:15,890 --> 01:28:17,620
You don't need cars
unless you've got
1415
01:28:17,620 --> 01:28:19,470
an internal combustion engine.
1416
01:28:19,470 --> 01:28:23,640
Well, if you have one
of these units, that's
1417
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:27,390
about 16 inches long and about
eight inches high and about
1418
01:28:27,390 --> 01:28:30,890
10 inches wide,
then you don't need
1419
01:28:30,890 --> 01:28:35,570
to plug in to Kit Carson,
the local electric company.
1420
01:28:35,570 --> 01:28:40,570
It burns nothing-- no pollution.
1421
01:28:40,570 --> 01:28:43,260
It never wears out because
there's no moving parts.
1422
01:28:43,260 --> 01:28:45,000
At the top, our news
here at 6 o'clock,
1423
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,650
an age-old dream
becoming a reality.
1424
01:28:47,650 --> 01:28:50,480
A local inventor has
discovered a way-- hear this--
1425
01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:52,809
to use water to run your car.
1426
01:28:52,809 --> 01:28:54,350
It's a major
breakthrough that will
1427
01:28:54,350 --> 01:28:55,970
no doubt make motorists happy.
1428
01:28:55,970 --> 01:28:58,530
And as Ralph Robinson
explains, the Pentagon
1429
01:28:58,530 --> 01:29:01,634
is also showing lots of
interest in this project.
1430
01:29:01,634 --> 01:29:03,050
Water has always
been considered
1431
01:29:03,050 --> 01:29:05,310
a precious commodity, but
Stan Meyer's invention
1432
01:29:05,310 --> 01:29:06,970
may make it even more valuable.
1433
01:29:06,970 --> 01:29:09,470
He has developed what's
called a water fuel cell.
1434
01:29:09,470 --> 01:29:11,740
It has taken the place
of his old gas tank.
1435
01:29:11,740 --> 01:29:14,130
The water fuel cell breaks
down water molecules
1436
01:29:14,130 --> 01:29:16,380
into oxygen and
hydrogen. The hydrogen
1437
01:29:16,380 --> 01:29:17,862
is used to run his dune buggy.
1438
01:29:17,862 --> 01:29:19,820
I don't care if you
use rainwater, wellwater,
1439
01:29:19,820 --> 01:29:21,580
city water, or ocean water.
1440
01:29:21,580 --> 01:29:24,757
If you don't have any fresh
water, go ahead and use snow.
1441
01:29:24,757 --> 01:29:26,590
If you don't have any
snow available to you,
1442
01:29:26,590 --> 01:29:29,070
use salt water, because there's
no adverse effect to the fuel
1443
01:29:29,070 --> 01:29:29,870
cell.
1444
01:29:29,870 --> 01:29:32,310
Meyer started working on
this project four years ago.
1445
01:29:32,310 --> 01:29:33,400
He's not a scientist.
1446
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:34,660
He isn't even a chemist.
1447
01:29:34,660 --> 01:29:36,880
In fact, he never
graduated from college.
1448
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,140
Meyer was determined, he
says, to design something
1449
01:29:39,140 --> 01:29:41,680
to protect this country
from oil embargoes.
1450
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:45,050
And we have calculated
that if we take the dune
1451
01:29:45,050 --> 01:29:47,190
buggy from Los
Angeles to New York,
1452
01:29:47,190 --> 01:29:50,137
we would roughly use
22 gallons of water.
1453
01:29:50,137 --> 01:29:52,345
The Pentagon flew a
lieutenant colonel in last week
1454
01:29:52,345 --> 01:29:53,860
to look at Meyer's invention.
1455
01:29:53,860 --> 01:29:56,430
There is talk of possibly using
it in the Star Wars defense
1456
01:29:56,430 --> 01:29:58,240
program and to run Army tanks.
1457
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,190
Meyer is currently providing
a water fuel cell for cars.
1458
01:30:01,190 --> 01:30:03,170
It will cost about $1,500.
1459
01:30:03,170 --> 01:30:04,930
He says it won't
need any maintenance
1460
01:30:04,930 --> 01:30:06,346
and you won't have
to replace it.
1461
01:30:06,346 --> 01:30:08,720
It will to be at least two
years before the fuel system
1462
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,200
goes into mass production.
1463
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,722
The day it happens will be
one the fuel industry hates.
1464
01:30:12,722 --> 01:30:14,180
But it will put a
smile in the face
1465
01:30:14,180 --> 01:30:16,616
of those who have had to
say at one time or another,
1466
01:30:16,616 --> 01:30:17,600
fill 'er up.
1467
01:30:41,230 --> 01:30:47,750
There is an enormous, an
enormous range of new things
1468
01:30:47,750 --> 01:30:53,300
that have been worked up to a
remarkable level in the past
1469
01:30:53,300 --> 01:30:57,230
and then suppressed by
the existing order for one
1470
01:30:57,230 --> 01:30:59,280
reason or another.
1471
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,680
Either they're incompatible
with classical ideas
1472
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:06,180
or they upset strong financial
interests or whatever
1473
01:31:06,180 --> 01:31:08,340
it may be in the past.
1474
01:31:08,340 --> 01:31:10,940
Great things have been
done by gifted humans.
1475
01:31:10,940 --> 01:31:14,140
They are, in a sense, the
vehicles of God Almighty
1476
01:31:14,140 --> 01:31:16,650
in bringing the
stuff into the world.
1477
01:31:16,650 --> 01:31:22,930
And none of it has ever reached
public use and public currency
1478
01:31:22,930 --> 01:31:25,780
because of this dictatorship
of the knowledge
1479
01:31:25,780 --> 01:31:27,990
systems of the world.
1480
01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:31,910
Video, and in particular
projects like this one
1481
01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:35,040
we're on now, they
reveal that you
1482
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:40,930
can do to these ancient,
seemingly ancient discoveries
1483
01:31:40,930 --> 01:31:44,030
what was not possible or
feasible 50 years ago.
1484
01:31:44,030 --> 01:31:47,180
It was simply beyond
technical capabilities.
1485
01:31:47,180 --> 01:31:50,540
And the means of distributing
what you discovered
1486
01:31:50,540 --> 01:31:52,780
were all in the wrong hands.
1487
01:31:52,780 --> 01:31:56,040
Nowadays, the internet
has put all that to bed.
1488
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,060
You can't do that anymore.
1489
01:31:58,060 --> 01:32:03,280
Humanity is going to have
information no matter what.
1490
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,670
So I see, in the things
that I know about and have
1491
01:32:06,670 --> 01:32:11,100
been personally involved with,
a great horizon for producing
1492
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:15,740
an endless series of productions
like this that will bring
1493
01:32:15,740 --> 01:32:18,360
this stuff out of the limbo
where they've been shoved
1494
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,840
and into the full
light of day who
1495
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,640
are some of the bright young
people who are now on the earth
1496
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,890
can make them into
blessings for mankind.
1497
01:33:06,970 --> 01:33:09,320
I have concluded that
it's based on a few people
1498
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,230
making a lot of money
and gaining power.
1499
01:33:12,230 --> 01:33:13,310
We have cartels.
1500
01:33:13,310 --> 01:33:15,510
We have a whole set
of cartels in an area,
1501
01:33:15,510 --> 01:33:16,700
interlocking corporations.
1502
01:33:16,700 --> 01:33:20,220
And behind this, we have a few
people who are quite wealthy
1503
01:33:20,220 --> 01:33:21,550
and who own most things.
1504
01:33:21,550 --> 01:33:22,890
It's about ego.
1505
01:33:22,890 --> 01:33:24,700
Everybody's trying
to be the big monkey.
1506
01:33:24,700 --> 01:33:26,000
It's really as simple as that.
1507
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,980
Who's control of
petroleum of the world?
1508
01:33:28,980 --> 01:33:32,230
A lot of people think that
Iraq, Iran, and so and so.
1509
01:33:35,180 --> 01:33:38,370
We control it, the us
and the British interest
1510
01:33:38,370 --> 01:33:41,280
and the other world interest.
1511
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:44,197
Well, some people refer to
this, the secret government.
1512
01:33:44,197 --> 01:33:46,030
But I would say that
in terms of profiting
1513
01:33:46,030 --> 01:33:49,740
from the status quo, big oil.
1514
01:33:49,740 --> 01:33:52,490
There are certain geopolitical
and financial infrastructures
1515
01:33:52,490 --> 01:33:56,040
that would does not welcome
a definitive replacement
1516
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:57,370
to the fossil fuels.
1517
01:33:57,370 --> 01:33:59,600
So what we get is the
great Armageddon everybody's
1518
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:00,730
been dreading.
1519
01:34:00,730 --> 01:34:03,480
It's about a few
people who really
1520
01:34:03,480 --> 01:34:07,610
are playing an old,
dangerous, costly game
1521
01:34:07,610 --> 01:34:10,530
for their own pocketbooks
and power struggle.
1522
01:34:10,530 --> 01:34:14,980
People in power
right now don't
1523
01:34:14,980 --> 01:34:18,910
want us to know is that
this free energy is
1524
01:34:18,910 --> 01:34:20,660
available to everybody.
1525
01:34:20,660 --> 01:34:22,730
I will tell you,
and we can prove this
1526
01:34:22,730 --> 01:34:25,100
with other scientists who
are ready to come forward,
1527
01:34:25,100 --> 01:34:28,110
that we already have
a complete replacement
1528
01:34:28,110 --> 01:34:32,470
for any fossil fuels or
ionizing nuclear power plants.
1529
01:34:32,470 --> 01:34:33,470
We don't need them.
1530
01:34:33,470 --> 01:34:34,690
We haven't needed them.
1531
01:34:34,690 --> 01:34:37,540
Probably have not needed them
since the time I was born.
1532
01:34:37,540 --> 01:34:40,020
The, quote,
"coverup" of this issue
1533
01:34:40,020 --> 01:34:42,520
that has been going on
for the last 50 years
1534
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:46,810
is probably the
biggest single threat
1535
01:34:46,810 --> 01:34:49,010
to our democratic society.
1536
01:34:49,010 --> 01:34:51,780
This is the greatest
strategic threat
1537
01:34:51,780 --> 01:34:53,590
to the survival of
the United States
1538
01:34:53,590 --> 01:34:56,010
and in fact of
civilization itself.
1539
01:34:56,010 --> 01:34:59,560
It still bothers me
that I've seen all this.
1540
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,010
I know all this.
1541
01:35:01,010 --> 01:35:03,720
And I'm walking around like
with the answer and nobody
1542
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:05,290
wants to ask the question.
1543
01:35:05,290 --> 01:35:11,440
I think it's time for us
to act to end this charade.
1544
01:35:11,440 --> 01:35:14,690
It's definitely time to
make a disclosure on this.
1545
01:35:14,690 --> 01:35:16,980
It's been kept secret too long.
1546
01:35:16,980 --> 01:35:19,110
One of the things
that I'm upset about
1547
01:35:19,110 --> 01:35:22,736
is that good people are
forced to do illegal things.
1548
01:35:22,736 --> 01:35:24,610
And I believe that this
information should be
1549
01:35:24,610 --> 01:35:26,470
given to the American public.
1550
01:35:26,470 --> 01:35:30,860
If the discovery of the
lifetime of humankind,
1551
01:35:30,860 --> 01:35:33,770
isn't it, defined that
we're not here alone.
1552
01:35:33,770 --> 01:35:36,630
People are walking
around in a daze.
1553
01:35:36,630 --> 01:35:43,820
They have no idea, no
idea, what is going on.
1554
01:35:43,820 --> 01:35:46,210
The fools may blow the
world from other causes.
1555
01:35:46,210 --> 01:35:48,040
Don't misunderstand me.
1556
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,690
But they're going to
blow it from this cause.
1557
01:35:50,690 --> 01:35:56,850
A shadowy government with its
own Air Force, its own navy,
1558
01:35:56,850 --> 01:36:00,970
is own fundraising
mechanism, and their ability
1559
01:36:00,970 --> 01:36:04,890
to pursue its own ideas
of the national interest
1560
01:36:04,890 --> 01:36:09,030
free from all checks and
balances and free from the law
1561
01:36:09,030 --> 01:36:10,090
itself.
1562
01:36:10,090 --> 01:36:13,170
Whatever activity is going
on, to the extent that it
1563
01:36:13,170 --> 01:36:16,130
is a clandestine group,
a quasi government
1564
01:36:16,130 --> 01:36:24,000
group, a quasi private group,
it is without any type,
1565
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:28,710
as far as I can tell, of high
level government oversight.
1566
01:36:28,710 --> 01:36:30,440
And that is a great concern.
1567
01:36:30,440 --> 01:36:36,320
We have contact with
aliens not originating
1568
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:40,770
from some foreign country, but
from some other solar system.
1569
01:36:40,770 --> 01:36:42,888
And I have been a party to that.
1570
01:38:51,962 --> 01:38:54,870
I'm at seven days 13
hours and 17 minutes.
1571
01:38:54,870 --> 01:38:56,390
This is mission
control in Houston.
1572
01:39:05,970 --> 01:39:10,050
The Mir space station is now
visible on the far left hand
1573
01:39:10,050 --> 01:39:15,860
side of the screen, about
an inch from the bottom
1574
01:39:15,860 --> 01:39:17,310
of this particular picture.
1575
01:39:25,340 --> 01:39:30,090
And there were also a number
of shooting stars in that view.
1576
01:39:30,090 --> 01:39:33,040
The camera has now
moved to a point.
1577
01:39:41,550 --> 01:39:47,140
OK, the Mir space station
is the small, flashing light
1578
01:39:47,140 --> 01:39:52,210
in the center, about an
inch from the left hand
1579
01:39:52,210 --> 01:39:53,010
side of the screen.
1580
01:39:53,010 --> 01:39:53,992
It's slowly--
1581
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,950
[INAUDIBLE] on the camera.
1582
01:40:00,950 --> 01:40:04,260
It is slowly moving closer
to the left hand side
1583
01:40:04,260 --> 01:40:06,998
and has a very light
flashing to it.
1584
01:40:10,810 --> 01:40:13,638
We think in the
middle of the screen,
1585
01:40:13,638 --> 01:40:28,797
way to the left hand side--
we've seen a lot of meteors.
1586
01:40:34,670 --> 01:40:37,300
The streaks that are
shooting across the screen
1587
01:40:37,300 --> 01:40:42,656
are meteorites, in other
words, shooting stars.
1588
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:01,650
We think you can see
a flashing light just
1589
01:41:01,650 --> 01:41:04,500
a little bit to the left of
the center of the screen,
1590
01:41:04,500 --> 01:41:05,700
very faint.
1591
01:41:05,700 --> 01:41:09,650
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