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[Kasper] A dense forest hidesa royal family secret.
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[Polly] She seemedto appear out of thin air
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like a ghost from Macbeth.
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[Kasper] A fortified siteoverrun
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by a determined force.
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Any Soviet spy would kill
for the secrets kept there.
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[Kasper] And a buildingthat offered hope,
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hijacked by criminal intent.
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It's definitely
not the kind of place
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you wanna be alone at night.
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[Kasper] Decaying relics,
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ruins of lost worlds,
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sites haunted by the past.
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Their secrets waitingto be revealed.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Kasper] In the middleof Delhi,
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an Indian mega cityof 30 million people,
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an Indian mega cityof 30 million people,
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is an unexpected sight.
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[Polly] It's oneof the biggest
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and most bustling citiesin the world.
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And then right therein the center is this giant
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jungle-like forest.
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[Sascha] To find a forestof this size,
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where we are is amazing.
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It's said thatthe only residents are mobs
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of monkeys
and howling jackals.
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[Polly] There seems to besomething hiding
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behind all that thickfoliage.
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The ruins of an old building
that look like
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they're from another world.
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[Jim] There is bushesand trees growing out
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of the roofsand some of the staircases
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are beginning to collapse.
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But they were quite well-built
because they're still
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standing after
what looks like centuries.
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[Kasper] Formidable stonewalls and grand archways
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haunted by years of neglectdisguise a more recent past.
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haunted by years of neglectdisguise a more recent past.
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Whatever furniture
and decor were once
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in this place are gone.
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This has beenthoroughly plundered,
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thoroughly ransacked.
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[Polly] There are hintsto its former glory.
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But now it's just a shell.
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No amenities, no interiors,
no signs of any life.
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[Kasper] Yet, concealedwithin is a story
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of intrigue and deception.
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of intrigue and deception.
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[Sascha] Given the imposingnature of the place,
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it's sensible to concludethat someone of significance
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must have once lived here.
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But that doesn't get usany closer to answering
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the question,
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"Where have they gone
and why was this abandoned?"
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[Kasper] Only a few years ago,
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a mysterious family occupiedthis forlorn jungle abode.
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a mysterious family occupiedthis forlorn jungle abode.
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Rarely seen,rumors of their strange
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existence quickly spread.
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Jawahar Lal lives locallyand was captivated
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by the incredible talesof the reclusive
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forest dwellers.
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[Jawahar] Thereare different versions.
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Some people say they look like
djinns or supernatural beings.
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They were not social at all.
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They really wanted
to live in secrecy.
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[Sascha] There were manystories told about them.
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What is clear is thatthe people who lived here
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wanted no contactwith outsiders.
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There were even signs
up saying
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that "unauthorized intruders
would be gunned down."
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[Jim] Though everyso often they would grant
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an interview
to a foreign journalist.
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[Kasper] And what a storyit was they had to tell.
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[Sascha] The first recordwe have of the inhabitants
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is when the mother of the
group showed up unannounced
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at a Delhi train station
in the early 1970s.
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She turned up with
her two children, servants
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and fifteen bloodhounds.
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[Sascha] She called herselfBegum Wilayat Mahal.
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And she claimedto be the direct descendant
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of the kings of Oudh.
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of the kings of Oudh.
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[Jim] She was the rightfulheir to the throne.
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Of course,there was no throne anymore.
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India was a democracy.
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But she claimed
they owed her something
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for the great injustice done
to her family.
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[Kasper] The Kingdomof Oudh was a wealthy
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Muslim state in the northernregion of India.
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But it hadn't existedfor over a century.
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[Jim] The British East IndiaCompany in the 19th Century
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[Jim] The British East IndiaCompany in the 19th Century
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was gradually taking overmore and more of India.
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Sometimes they collaborated
with the local governments.
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Other times they more
or less overthrew them
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to take controlof the resources of India.
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[Polly] But the finaland richest state
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was forcibly seized
by the British on the basis
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that their prince
lived a debauched life,
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which made him unfit to rule.
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[Kasper] Outragedby the wrongdoing inflicted
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on her royal ancestors,
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Queen Wilayat demandedthe Indian government
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Queen Wilayat demandedthe Indian government
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return what was rightfullyhers.
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And her bizarre behaviorsoon attracted
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the world's attention.
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The children
called Prince Cyrus
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and Princess Sakina addressed
their mother as "her highness"
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or "your highness."
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And the Nepalese servantsonly approached her
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walking on their knees.
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This must have been quite
a sight.
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I mean, imagine all this going
on in a train station
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I mean, imagine all this going
on in a train station
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waiting room.
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[Kasper] Over the years,the Indian government
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offered her various housesand large sums of money.
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She refused all, demandingshe be given something
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worthy of her standing.
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[Jim] And reporterswould come and she would give
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interviews and she would
make demands and she was
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such a compelling
imperious figure
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that people eventually said,
"Well, we have to do
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something for her.
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We have to get her out
of the railroad station."
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We have to get her out
of the railroad station."
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[Sascha] In 1984,after ten years
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of livingin the train station
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waiting room,
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the governmentfinally offered
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the Begum a building
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of regal descent to occupy.
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And to their great relief,
she accepted their offer.
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[Kasper] This 14th Centurymedieval hunting lodge
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called Malcha Mahalbecame the new home
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of the deposed aristocrats.
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This place
was all carpeted.
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This place
was all carpeted.
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And on these columns,
there were nice paintings
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were hung.
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Everything was tidy.
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In the kitchen,there was a nice
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crockeryand a silver tea set.
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And everything was lined up.
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[Kasper] Royalty may haveoriginally built
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Malcha Mahal.
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But that was 700 years ago.
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It was never intendedto be a permanent residence
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in the modern era.
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in the modern era.
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The word
"mahal" means palace.
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We know it from the Taj Mahal
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So when you see this crumbling
ruin out in the forest,
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it doesn't reallylook like a palace.
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[Sascha] It was overgrownlong before the Begum arrived
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and hadn't been occupied
in decades.
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There was no running water,there was no electricity.
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[Jawahar] When she came here,
she was promised
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to have the facility of water
and electricity.
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to have the facility of water
and electricity.
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But she did not get.
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Moreover, there were no doors,
nothing.
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[Sascha] You can see Delhioff in the distance.
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And standing up here,
the family...
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You can imagine them thinking,
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"Ah, we rule over
everything we can see."
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But that wasn't the truth.
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Really, all they ruled over
was this tiny little building
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and its environs.
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[Kasper] And for the queenof Oudh, Malcha Mahal
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wasn't enough.
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In time, a great sadnesswould descend.
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And with it, an astonishingdeceit exposed.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Kasper] In Indiais a run-down ruin,
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gifted to the heirsof aristocrats deposed
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by the Britishover a century ago.
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Driven by injustice,the family sought
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to tell the worldtheir story.
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But soon, tragedywould befall Malcha Mahal.
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In 1993,
the Begum killed herself.
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In 1993,
the Begum killed herself.
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[Jim] It was even saidthat the way
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she committed suicide
was by grinding up
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all of her diamonds
and eating them.
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And after that,
it was only the prince
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and the princess left.
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[Kasper] The surviving heirscontinued to tell
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their tragic taleuntil they too died,
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alone and in poverty.
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It was at that point
that the whole story
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of Queen Wilayat and her
family started to unravel.
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of Queen Wilayat and her
family started to unravel.
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[Jim] In 2019, a reporterfor the New York Times
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was curiousabout this famous story.
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And she started digging deep,
she looked into records.
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[Polly] The journalistfollowed the family coffers,
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which led not backto any royal ancestry,
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but to a certain Mr. Butt
back in Bradford, England.
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He was her stepson
and he was no prince,
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and she was no queen.
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It was all an elaborate hoax.
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[Jim] She was a Muslim womanwhose family had moved
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[Jim] She was a Muslim womanwhose family had moved
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to Pakistan during thepartition of Indiaand Pakistan.
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This was a wrenching moment
in the late 1940s
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when India was granted
its independence,
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the British in their wisdomdecided that perhaps
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they should just divide it upinto two countries.
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And the Muslims
were all supposed
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to move north to Pakistan,
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the Hindus were supposed
to move south to India.
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[Kasper] In Lahore,the family lived
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a comfortable life.
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But Wilayat had never wantedto move to Pakistan.
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But Wilayat had never wantedto move to Pakistan.
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Her home was in India.
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Consumed by unhappiness,the cracks started to show.
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After her husband died,
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she grew more
and more eccentric.
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[Polly] There were also signsof her mental health failing.
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She was said to have received
electroshock therapy
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while she was in Pakistan.
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[Jim] And thennext thing you know,
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she turns upin the Delhi train station
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proclaiming herself
this long, lost queen.
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proclaiming herself
this long, lost queen.
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[Kasper] For three decades,Malcha Mahal served
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as the residence fora royal family
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that never was.
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It's a tragic story
about lives
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torn apart
by conquest and division.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Kasper] Today, the jungleencroaches ever closer
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to the ruins of thiscrumbling building.
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It faces an uncertain future.
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It faces an uncertain future.
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[Jawahar] The governmentis not paying any attention.
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And it's very difficult
to approach here.
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It's such a thick forest,
so I think
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it will just remainlike this.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Kasper]
In southern Britain,
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is a common landwhere history
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is hidden in plain sight.
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[Sascha] At first glance,there doesn't seem to be
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[Sascha] At first glance,there doesn't seem to be
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much out of theordinary here at all.
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It's shrubs, grass,pleasant fields.
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You would've never imagined
that something
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Earth-shattering happened here
in this region.
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[Dominic] There are chainlink fences and barbed wire
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all around it.
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Today people just walk past.
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But at one stage,
this was very high-security.
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[Kasper] These fortificationswere put in place
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to protecta precious resource,
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hidden insidea concrete vault.
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hidden insidea concrete vault.
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[Dominic] Tucked awayat one end
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is the most strikingpart of the site,
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long dome-like structures
covered in grass,
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possibly as camouflage.
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[Kasper] Buried withinare hidden rooms
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built at a timeof national panic.
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This place
looks like something
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out of
a science fiction movie.
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Its heavy doors,and the security around it,
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Its heavy doors,and the security around it,
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it really givesthe impression of something
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that's either from the future
or heavily technological
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from our present.
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[Claire] I grew upfairly close to here
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but I never came hereas a child.
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This was like
a massive no-go area.
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[Kasper] Long ago,this was a place
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of state secretsand maximum security.
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But in 1983,that security was breached.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Kasper] At one endof the site
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is a reinforced buildingthat few people
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have been permitted to enter.
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Rebecca Mordanhas been given access.
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This is
a really exciting room.
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Gosh, it's like
something out of a film.
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[Claire] Some of the roomshave these strange
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purpose-built troughs full
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purpose-built troughs full
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of like a weird white powder.
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It's like talcum powder.
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It's like to absorb something.
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[Dominic] This placeis clearly a rat run.
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You go through a seriesof rooms
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passing this absorbingpowder
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and then you getto this room with this big,
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heavy metal chute.
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It's becoming quite clear
what this is for.
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[Kasper] This is adecontamination chamber.
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It was built in the 1980swhen the world faced
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It was built in the 1980swhen the world faced
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nuclear annihilation.
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[Claire] The Cold Warwas a massive
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overhanging gray cloud onour childhood in the 1980s.
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And it seeped into everything.
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It seeped
into our television programs.
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[man] If there
is a nuclear attack
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and you survived the initial
effects of an explosion,
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you will have at least
a half hour to get
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you will have at least
a half hour to get
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to a public
or home fallout shelter.
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[Kasper] Built at a timeof global crisis,
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this is Greenham Common,a former United States
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military airfieldand key strategic base
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against the Soviet Union.
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[intense music playing]
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[Dominic] Any Soviet spywould kill
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for the secrets kept there,so security was very tight.
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But on one night in 1983,
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But on one night in 1983,
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three unauthorized people
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snuck onto the base
and into the control tower.
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[intense music playing]
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[Kasper] In 1980,Greenham Common was chosen
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to host a new iterationof the atom bomb,
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the cruise missile.
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But not everyone was happyto see its arrival.
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[Claire] The cruisemissile program was very,
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very controversial
in Britain.
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And one group decided
that they were gonna
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And one group decided
that they were gonna
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be the ones
to put a stop to it.
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I remember
there being people waiting
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and sitting you down
and you come and sit with me
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at the banners or would you
want to come to the fire?
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Are you warm enough?
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[Kasper] RebeccaMordan's mother
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is one of many who answereda call to arms
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for what was to bea women-only protest.
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A chain letter
spread across the UK.
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This was a time before
the Internet so still
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This was a time before
the Internet so still
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had to go through snail mail.
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And that letter invited
those who read it to come
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to Greenham Common
on December 12th, 1982.
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[Kasper] Whenthe missiles arrived,
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they were met by a crowdof protesters
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some 30,000 strong.
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These Greenham womendetermined to protect
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their children's future,
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built campsall around the base.
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So, this is one
of the gates for the base.
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So, this is one
of the gates for the base.
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The American Military
added razor wire.
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They then added dogs
and sentries and more police,
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they got military police
and English squaddies,
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British squaddies,
all protecting
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the Americans who were living
right in the middle of base.
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[Kasper] The protestsmade global headlines,
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an embarrassmentfor the British government.
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They ordered the police tomove the protesters by force.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Rebecca] There'sdefinitely feeling
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that particularlywhen a lot of outside
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police were brought in,
there was a much higher risk
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of violence to the women.
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[Kasper] But the groupof ordinary women
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wouldn't be got ridof so easily.
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One night, three protestorsoutside the base discovered
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an open pipe.
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And they
realized quite rightly that
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it was probably
an overflow pipe.
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So they crawled into it,
not knowing
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where they'd come up
and where they came up
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was on actually on the runway
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was on actually on the runway
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or near the runway
for the whole base.
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They make their way over
to the control tower
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for the most heavily-guardednuclear airfield
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in the country and
they haven't locked the door.
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[Rebecca] They just literallywaltzed in
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and they foundstate secrets.
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They found log books
about what to do in the case
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of nuclear emergencies
and they wrote their names
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all over all of it.
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[Kasper] By the timethe women were discovered,
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they'd been inside thecontrol tower for five hours.
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they'd been inside thecontrol tower for five hours.
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This wasn't just embarrassing
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for the government,
it was a humiliation.
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[Kasper] But the control towerwasn't the biggest breach
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of securityat Greenham Common.
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[Claire] The key thingon this airfield
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is not the control toweror the runways themselves,
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it's the silo, the big,
big structure
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that actually houses
the vehicles
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with the nuclearwarheads on the back.
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with the nuclearwarheads on the back.
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[Kasper] The protestersdrew up a plan
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to storm the nuclear bunkers.
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[Rebecca] The Greenhamwomen waited until it was
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New Year's Eve and they
reckoned all of the squaddies,
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most of the base,the military police and that
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would all be in towncelebrating.
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[Sascha] This wasincredibly dangerous.
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You'd have to keep in mindhow important this site was
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and how crucial it wasto keep these weapons secure.
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The soldiers were all armed
with assault rifles
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The soldiers were all armed
with assault rifles
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and their orders were
to shoot intruders on sight.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Rebecca] They managedto put ladders up,
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put the carpet overthe razor wire,get on to silos
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where theoretically
the nuclear missiles
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were kept.
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[Claire] These womenare not there
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to do malicious harm.
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All they can do is sing
and dance at the soldiers
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responsible for the security.
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[Kasper] The danceon the bunkers
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was broadcastaround the world.
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was broadcastaround the world.
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How much does that
get under your skin
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if you're in charge
of guarding the world's
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biggest nuclear deterrentand you've got a bunch
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of ragtag or middle-aged women
dancing and singing
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on top
of your prized possession?
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[Kasper] The activistsremained outside
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the base for over a decade.
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Their watch endedwhen the final missile
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was removedand the airfield closed.
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[Dominic]
There's no doubt that
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[Dominic]
There's no doubt that
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the Greenham Common protesters
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were one of the most
iconic images
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of the 1980s,
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which was a decade
of real conflict in Britain.
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[intense music playing]
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[Kasper] In 1997,
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the fences that hadsurrounded Greenham Common
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for 50 yearswere finally torn down.
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And the 800 acre-sitereturned to public use.
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[Sascha]
The anti-nuclear movement
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has made some really, reallyimportant accomplishments
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has made some really, reallyimportant accomplishments
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and certainly brought
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the nuclear issue
out into the open
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in a way that
simply wasn't possible before.
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[intense music playing]
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[Kasper] On the northern edgeof Johannesburg,
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within a huge areaof parkland
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lies a sweeping structure.
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[Sascha] This is a veryimpressive building,
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[Sascha] This is a veryimpressive building,
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multi-wing edifice.
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And it doesn't look likeit's that old,
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built maybe 50 years ago.
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[Kasper] Though it might lookquite new from the outside,
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internally, it's a wholedifferent story.
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The inside is just
completely ravaged
and ripped apart.
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There's paint that's peelingfrom the walls.
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It looks like something out
of a horror picture show.
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It looks like something out
of a horror picture show.
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[Sascha] This isa pretty scary place.
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There are gaping holesin the ceiling.
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There's what looks like
blood stains on the wall.
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It's definitely not
the kind of place
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you'd want to be
alone at night.
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[Kasper]
As you venture further,
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the more ominousthe building becomes.
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[Dr. Alicia]
There's medical equipment,
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confidential documents.
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It looks like peoplewere just there one day
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It looks like peoplewere just there one day
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and then they suddenly
got up and left.
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[Fran] In one room,there are giant refrigerators
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that look so big,
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you could fit a body inside.
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And then there's
huge broken slabs.
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[Kasper] This buildingis rumored to be
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one of the most haunted
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in South Africa.
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[Sascha] It's saidthat paranormal activity
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often concentrates in places
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that have had a lotof deaths and births.
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that have had a lotof deaths and births.
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So what is it
that happened here
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that might cause it
to be haunted like that?
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[intense music playing]
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[intense music playing]
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[Kasper] In Johannesburg,South Africa
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is a modern buildingwith an intriguing past.
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It was intended to helpthose in need,
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but not everyonegot the care they deserved.
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This is Kempton Park Hospital.
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It was completed in 1978
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and at the time,it was the largest
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medical facilityin the region.
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medical facilityin the region.
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It's a huge hospital
as you can see,
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400 beds.
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It had a maternity section,
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had all the surgicaldisciplines.
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It had a medical ward.
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It hadan intensive care unit.
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[Kasper] Dr. Nick Wolmaranswas a consultant surgeon
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and head of the emergencydepartment at the hospital.
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[Dr. Nick] This used to bean excellent facility
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and to see it in this
dilapidated condition,
517
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:35,667
and to see it in this
dilapidated condition,
518
00:24:35,667 --> 00:24:36,000
is very disturbing.
519
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,767
I worked here for ten years.
520
00:24:41,767 --> 00:24:44,000
I've treated
a lot of patients here
521
00:24:44,066 --> 00:24:46,700
and it was
an amazing place to work.
522
00:24:48,300 --> 00:24:49,867
[Kasper] When it was built,
523
00:24:49,867 --> 00:24:52,100
it had a very specificpurpose in mind,
524
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:55,000
and the clueis hidden in its design.
525
00:24:57,266 --> 00:25:00,166
[Dr. Nick] I walked along this
passage for a very long time,
526
00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:03,166
I never noticed
how wide this passage is.
527
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,240
And one of the hospitalgroup's CEO told me,
528
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,000
And one of the hospitalgroup's CEO told me,
529
00:25:08,166 --> 00:25:11,400
this was builtfor disaster purposes.
530
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,867
With the idea that
531
00:25:13,867 --> 00:25:15,400
in the case of a disaster
532
00:25:15,467 --> 00:25:17,900
coming from the airport
533
00:25:17,967 --> 00:25:21,400
or the explosive factory
not very far from here,
534
00:25:21,467 --> 00:25:23,266
they could park
535
00:25:23,266 --> 00:25:26,567
and accommodate beds
in this passage.
536
00:25:28,066 --> 00:25:29,767
[Kasper] At the time,
537
00:25:29,767 --> 00:25:32,700
the hospital was the heightof technology.
538
00:25:33,767 --> 00:25:35,240
This is a very
spacious theater.
539
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:35,500
This is a very
spacious theater.
540
00:25:35,567 --> 00:25:36,000
Look at the size.
Look at the high ceiling.
541
00:25:37,867 --> 00:25:39,367
Look at the equipment.
542
00:25:39,367 --> 00:25:41,867
They don't makeand build theaters
543
00:25:41,867 --> 00:25:43,266
of this size anymore.
544
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:47,600
[Sascha] In such an expensive
545
00:25:47,667 --> 00:25:49,500
and advanced facility,
546
00:25:49,567 --> 00:25:51,266
one would imaginethat the staff
547
00:25:51,266 --> 00:25:54,467
would bevery highly-qualified
548
00:25:54,467 --> 00:25:56,667
medical professionals.
549
00:25:56,667 --> 00:25:59,767
But it turns out
that Kempton Park Hospital
550
00:25:59,767 --> 00:26:02,400
was hiding a horrific secret.
551
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,240
[Fran] In 1982,the hospital took on
552
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,000
[Fran] In 1982,the hospital took on
553
00:26:06,367 --> 00:26:09,266
a pediatriciancalled Dr. Esterhuizen.
554
00:26:09,266 --> 00:26:11,000
He had his own practice
555
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,367
and he came
highly recommended.
556
00:26:13,367 --> 00:26:16,266
It's believed that duringhis time at the hospital,
557
00:26:16,266 --> 00:26:19,567
he treated more than fourand a half thousand patients,
558
00:26:19,567 --> 00:26:22,367
mostly babies
in the pediatric ward.
559
00:26:23,867 --> 00:26:26,600
Dr. Esterhuizen
was so confident
560
00:26:26,667 --> 00:26:29,467
in his abilities
and his expertise
561
00:26:29,467 --> 00:26:32,700
that he put himself forward
as head of department
562
00:26:32,767 --> 00:26:34,900
and he had a lot of supportfrom his colleagues
563
00:26:34,967 --> 00:26:35,240
at the time for this.
564
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,000
at the time for this.
565
00:26:36,767 --> 00:26:39,567
But it turned out
that Dr. Esterhuizen
566
00:26:39,567 --> 00:26:42,066
was not who he seemed to be.
567
00:26:45,166 --> 00:26:48,266
[Kasper] Dr. Wolmaranswas working at the hospital
568
00:26:48,266 --> 00:26:49,600
at the same time.
569
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,467
This is the pediatric ward
570
00:26:52,467 --> 00:26:54,867
where Dr. Andre Esterhuizen
worked.
571
00:26:54,867 --> 00:26:57,500
He worked here
for approximately
three to four years
572
00:26:57,567 --> 00:26:59,567
in the late '80s and '90s.
573
00:26:59,567 --> 00:27:02,266
As time went on,a lot of parents
574
00:27:02,266 --> 00:27:04,767
and colleagueswere very concerned
575
00:27:04,767 --> 00:27:05,240
of his wayhe treated the children.
576
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,000
of his wayhe treated the children.
577
00:27:07,767 --> 00:27:11,367
A lot of children
had serious complications.
578
00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:16,767
[Kasper] One of those childrenwas in Dr. Wolmarans' care.
579
00:27:16,767 --> 00:27:20,166
[Dr. Nick]
I had a very sad experience
580
00:27:20,166 --> 00:27:21,800
with one of my patients,
581
00:27:21,867 --> 00:27:23,467
a four-month-old baby
582
00:27:23,467 --> 00:27:26,200
which I operatedfor a groin hernia
583
00:27:26,266 --> 00:27:28,767
and postoperatively,
584
00:27:28,767 --> 00:27:31,667
the anesthetist told methat the child aspirated
585
00:27:31,667 --> 00:27:33,200
in the recovery room.
586
00:27:35,367 --> 00:27:36,000
My anesthetist calledDr. Andre Esterhuizen
587
00:27:38,166 --> 00:27:40,400
and he looked afterthe child.
588
00:27:40,467 --> 00:27:44,367
Unfortunately, extubatedthe baby at the wrong time
589
00:27:44,367 --> 00:27:47,567
and she stopped breathing
and unfortunately died.
590
00:27:50,266 --> 00:27:53,166
[Kasper] Alarmingly,this wasn't the only child
591
00:27:53,166 --> 00:27:55,800
to have died undersuspicious circumstances.
592
00:27:57,667 --> 00:28:01,200
At that point,
that hospital staff
593
00:28:01,266 --> 00:28:04,867
started to make more
specific investigations
594
00:28:04,867 --> 00:28:05,240
into Esterhuizen,
his diagnoses,
595
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,000
into Esterhuizen,
his diagnoses,
596
00:28:07,767 --> 00:28:08,900
and his treatment.
597
00:28:10,467 --> 00:28:12,667
[Kasper] Dr. Wolmaranswas at the forefront
598
00:28:12,667 --> 00:28:14,367
of the investigation
599
00:28:14,367 --> 00:28:16,867
and what he discoveredshook the hospital
600
00:28:16,867 --> 00:28:18,900
and its staff to the core.
601
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:22,400
[Dr. Nick] When I phonedthe medical council,
602
00:28:22,467 --> 00:28:26,166
they told me thatthere is no such a person
603
00:28:26,166 --> 00:28:29,400
or doctor in their, uh,
604
00:28:29,467 --> 00:28:31,567
doctor's files and, uh,
605
00:28:31,567 --> 00:28:33,400
he never qualified
as a doctor.
606
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:38,867
[Dr. Alicia] He only hada high school diploma
607
00:28:38,867 --> 00:28:40,500
and he had been masquerading
608
00:28:40,567 --> 00:28:42,900
as a physician
for all of these years.
609
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:47,500
[Kasper] Eventually,Dr. Esterhuizen
610
00:28:47,567 --> 00:28:49,867
was taken to court.
611
00:28:49,867 --> 00:28:51,667
[Fran] Apparently,some of the testament
612
00:28:51,667 --> 00:28:53,000
they used during the trial
613
00:28:53,066 --> 00:28:55,767
were just horrendous.
614
00:28:55,767 --> 00:28:57,567
One mother told the court
615
00:28:57,567 --> 00:29:01,000
of her baby ending
up with cerebral palsy
616
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,667
after Esterhuizen
had done four lumbar punctures
617
00:29:04,667 --> 00:29:05,240
on her child
618
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,000
on her child
619
00:29:06,467 --> 00:29:08,667
when she was just
four-months-old.
620
00:29:09,767 --> 00:29:11,300
[Dr. Alicia]
He was ultimately charged
621
00:29:11,367 --> 00:29:12,967
with culpable homicide,
622
00:29:12,967 --> 00:29:14,767
impersonating a doctor,
623
00:29:14,767 --> 00:29:16,467
and defrauding his patients,
624
00:29:16,467 --> 00:29:18,066
and he was sentencedto 18 years
625
00:29:18,066 --> 00:29:19,266
in prison.
626
00:29:19,266 --> 00:29:21,000
However,
nothing can bring back
627
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,767
any of the children
that he lost
628
00:29:22,767 --> 00:29:24,400
due to his negligence.
629
00:29:28,166 --> 00:29:29,967
[Fran] The big question is,
630
00:29:29,967 --> 00:29:32,200
how did the hospitalnever check
631
00:29:32,266 --> 00:29:34,667
his credentialswhen they hired him.
632
00:29:34,667 --> 00:29:35,240
It makes you think,"Was this huge scandal
633
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,000
It makes you think,"Was this huge scandal
634
00:29:38,367 --> 00:29:40,367
part of the reason
that the hospital
635
00:29:40,367 --> 00:29:42,100
closed so suddenly?"
636
00:29:45,467 --> 00:29:46,000
[intense music playing]
637
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,200
[Kasper] This is KemptonPark Hospital.
638
00:29:56,266 --> 00:29:58,467
When it was built,it had a lifespan
639
00:29:58,467 --> 00:30:00,367
of 100 years.
640
00:30:00,367 --> 00:30:02,800
But it only lasted 18.
641
00:30:02,867 --> 00:30:04,567
So what went wrong?
642
00:30:06,667 --> 00:30:08,300
[Dr. Nick] I climbedthese stairs every day,
643
00:30:08,367 --> 00:30:11,667
going up the theater
and to the wards,
644
00:30:12,767 --> 00:30:15,080
and unbeknown to me,
they closed this hospital.
645
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,000
and unbeknown to me,
they closed this hospital.
646
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,967
[Kasper] At the time,the local health department
647
00:30:19,967 --> 00:30:21,867
blamed it on staff shortages
648
00:30:21,867 --> 00:30:23,767
and underutilization,
649
00:30:23,767 --> 00:30:25,567
but this just didn't add up.
650
00:30:27,367 --> 00:30:30,367
[Fran] Reports from staffworking there at the time
651
00:30:30,367 --> 00:30:33,367
denied any staff shortages
652
00:30:33,367 --> 00:30:36,467
and they said that working
conditions were good.
653
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,166
[Sascha]
Closing a public hospital
654
00:30:40,166 --> 00:30:43,100
next to one ofthe biggest townships
655
00:30:43,166 --> 00:30:45,080
in the countryseems an odd move.
656
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,000
in the countryseems an odd move.
657
00:30:47,967 --> 00:30:50,400
Especially when other
hospitals in the region
658
00:30:50,467 --> 00:30:53,266
were reported as
being close to capacity.
659
00:30:54,767 --> 00:30:58,200
[Kasper] It seems the reasonthis hospital really closed
660
00:30:58,266 --> 00:31:00,066
is to remain a mystery
661
00:31:00,066 --> 00:31:03,000
to both the publicand the staff.
662
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,600
[Dr. Nick] Nothing was said,
even up to today,
663
00:31:05,667 --> 00:31:07,667
after 25 years, you know,
664
00:31:07,667 --> 00:31:10,567
we do not know why
the government wouldn't keep
665
00:31:10,567 --> 00:31:13,867
a magnificent asset
like this going.
666
00:31:20,166 --> 00:31:23,100
[Kasper] Today,the hospital sits abandoned
667
00:31:23,166 --> 00:31:26,567
but it's not as quietas it might initially look.
668
00:31:26,567 --> 00:31:30,467
People still come,drawn by the terrible stories
669
00:31:30,467 --> 00:31:32,667
of what took place.
670
00:31:32,667 --> 00:31:35,700
[Fran] The sitehas become infamous
671
00:31:35,767 --> 00:31:39,367
for the specters that wanderthe hospital at night.
672
00:31:39,367 --> 00:31:41,867
And given what happened here,
673
00:31:41,867 --> 00:31:43,700
it's perhaps no surprise
674
00:31:43,767 --> 00:31:45,080
that it's rumored to be full
of the ghosts of children.
675
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,000
that it's rumored to be full
of the ghosts of children.
676
00:31:52,767 --> 00:31:55,000
[Kasper] Off the southeastcoast of Georgia,
677
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,000
in the windsweptAtlantic Ocean,
678
00:31:57,066 --> 00:31:59,867
is a breathtakingisland wilderness.
679
00:32:07,667 --> 00:32:10,166
[Prof. Geoff] Just the sort oflush green place
680
00:32:10,166 --> 00:32:14,266
with sawgrass,palm trees, marshes,
681
00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:15,080
and then it opens up into this
682
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,000
and then it opens up into this
683
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,100
sort of great estate
684
00:32:18,166 --> 00:32:20,367
and you see the remains
of what looks to be
685
00:32:20,367 --> 00:32:22,066
a massive stately home.
686
00:32:23,367 --> 00:32:25,567
[Fran] You can see thatthe grounds of this place
687
00:32:25,567 --> 00:32:27,300
were extensive.
688
00:32:27,367 --> 00:32:28,867
And I bet in the day,
689
00:32:28,867 --> 00:32:30,767
they were quite impressive.
690
00:32:30,767 --> 00:32:33,600
You could still seeornamental lawns.
691
00:32:33,667 --> 00:32:36,500
And amongst them, there'sa few outbuildings as well.
692
00:32:38,266 --> 00:32:41,367
Whoever lived here
was pretty wealthy.
693
00:32:42,667 --> 00:32:44,800
[Prof. Geoff] And it doesn'tlook like a place that's
694
00:32:44,867 --> 00:32:45,080
just sort of garden varietydilapidated by the years,
695
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,000
just sort of garden varietydilapidated by the years,
696
00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:50,867
it looks likesomething violent,
697
00:32:50,867 --> 00:32:53,166
something terrible happened
698
00:32:53,166 --> 00:32:55,667
to reduce it
to such destruction.
699
00:32:57,700 --> 00:32:59,367
[Kasper] Further in,
700
00:32:59,367 --> 00:33:02,266
a series of curiousbrick constructions
701
00:33:02,266 --> 00:33:04,000
are revealed.
702
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,967
You can see these strange
703
00:33:06,967 --> 00:33:08,800
chimney-like structures.
704
00:33:10,266 --> 00:33:12,667
So you're wondering
what happened here,
705
00:33:12,667 --> 00:33:14,467
was this a site
of manufacture?
706
00:33:15,367 --> 00:33:16,000
[Kasper] Look closer
707
00:33:16,867 --> 00:33:20,600
and a very differentpicture emerges.
708
00:33:20,667 --> 00:33:23,266
[Fran] To some of the peoplethat called this place home,
709
00:33:23,266 --> 00:33:25,967
it wasn't a particularly
pleasant place to be.
710
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:29,767
[Prof. Geoff] Clearlywe're standing in the midst of
711
00:33:29,767 --> 00:33:32,567
some important piece
of American history.
712
00:33:39,266 --> 00:33:41,400
[Kasper] Today,the National Park Service
713
00:33:41,467 --> 00:33:43,600
is the custodianof this remote island
714
00:33:43,667 --> 00:33:45,080
and its buildings.
715
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,500
and its buildings.
716
00:33:45,567 --> 00:33:46,000
The only way to reachits rugged coast is by boat.
717
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:52,667
[Robinson] This islandhas many fascinating stories.
718
00:33:52,667 --> 00:33:54,367
You could spenda lifetime studying
719
00:33:54,367 --> 00:33:57,166
the history of this island
and not fully be able
720
00:33:57,166 --> 00:33:59,100
to understand everything
that happened.
721
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000
[Kasper]
Park Ranger Robinson Barker
722
00:34:05,066 --> 00:34:07,000
has spent many yearsinvestigating
723
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,467
the island's secrets.
724
00:34:11,367 --> 00:34:13,300
The Family that lived here
most recently
725
00:34:13,367 --> 00:34:15,080
is the Carnegie family
of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
726
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,000
is the Carnegie family
of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
727
00:34:16,767 --> 00:34:19,667
Originally,
the Carnegies immigrated
728
00:34:19,667 --> 00:34:21,467
over to America from Scotland
729
00:34:21,467 --> 00:34:23,266
in the 1840s.
730
00:34:23,266 --> 00:34:26,100
And the young brothers,
Thomas and Andrew Carnegie,
731
00:34:26,166 --> 00:34:28,367
worked their way upuntil they amassed
732
00:34:28,367 --> 00:34:31,100
a large wealthin the steel industry.
733
00:34:33,166 --> 00:34:34,800
[Kasper] As the story goes,
734
00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:37,166
Thomas' wife Lucywas so enthralled
735
00:34:37,166 --> 00:34:38,867
by the island's beauty,
736
00:34:38,867 --> 00:34:42,000
she insisted it be boughtat any price.
737
00:34:43,166 --> 00:34:45,080
In 1884, the Carnegies
built this mansion
738
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,000
In 1884, the Carnegies
built this mansion
739
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:48,266
and called it Dungeness.
740
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,500
It was the heartof the estate
741
00:34:51,567 --> 00:34:54,867
that they built for themand their nine children.
742
00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:58,200
[Prof. Geoff]
Carnegie spared no expense
743
00:34:58,266 --> 00:35:00,867
in the constructionof Dungeness.
744
00:35:00,867 --> 00:35:03,500
He not only builtthis munificent main house
745
00:35:03,567 --> 00:35:05,166
and its outbuildings,
746
00:35:05,166 --> 00:35:07,967
but he addeda heated swimming pool,
747
00:35:07,967 --> 00:35:10,800
squash courts,
and he had 200 servants.
748
00:35:12,667 --> 00:35:15,080
[Kasper] This is CumberlandIsland National Seashore,
749
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,000
[Kasper] This is CumberlandIsland National Seashore,
750
00:35:16,967 --> 00:35:18,700
once the exclusive playground
751
00:35:18,767 --> 00:35:21,300
of one of America'swealthiest families.
752
00:35:21,367 --> 00:35:24,767
For many years,their life here was idyllic.
753
00:35:27,066 --> 00:35:28,967
But before
the Carnegies' arrival,
754
00:35:28,967 --> 00:35:31,266
it had a very dark
and evil past.
755
00:35:32,967 --> 00:35:35,166
[Prof. Michele]
What happened here,what people did here
756
00:35:35,166 --> 00:35:37,467
came at a terrible cost,
757
00:35:37,467 --> 00:35:39,166
a terrible human cost.
758
00:35:40,467 --> 00:35:43,300
[Kasper] The Carnegies removedmost of the structures
759
00:35:43,367 --> 00:35:45,080
from this timebut one building remains.
760
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,000
from this timebut one building remains.
761
00:35:48,166 --> 00:35:50,567
[Robinson] This house was usedas the overseer's home
762
00:35:50,567 --> 00:35:51,967
during the Greene-Miller
763
00:35:51,967 --> 00:35:54,667
plantation hereon the island.
764
00:35:54,667 --> 00:35:56,200
Over in front of me
would have been
765
00:35:56,266 --> 00:35:57,900
a large cotton field
766
00:35:57,967 --> 00:36:00,800
where enslaved Africans worked
throughout the day
767
00:36:00,867 --> 00:36:03,300
as they grew crops herefor the market.
768
00:36:07,266 --> 00:36:10,000
[Kasper] The Greene-Millerfamily took up residence here
769
00:36:10,066 --> 00:36:12,266
in the early 1800s.
770
00:36:12,266 --> 00:36:13,700
They were the firstto make use
771
00:36:13,767 --> 00:36:15,080
of the island'snatural resources,
772
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,000
of the island'snatural resources,
773
00:36:16,066 --> 00:36:18,500
ushering in a shameful cycle
774
00:36:18,567 --> 00:36:20,667
that would endurefor decades.
775
00:36:24,867 --> 00:36:27,066
But something was coming
776
00:36:27,066 --> 00:36:30,367
that would give hopeto the exploited people.
777
00:36:34,767 --> 00:36:35,000
[intense music playing]
778
00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:42,800
[Kasper] On Cumberland Island
779
00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:45,266
are the ruinsof a grand mansion
780
00:36:45,266 --> 00:36:46,767
built on the site
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00:36:46,767 --> 00:36:49,667
of a once vastcotton plantation.
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00:36:49,667 --> 00:36:52,300
Slave labormade the owners rich
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00:36:52,367 --> 00:36:53,900
but a looming conflict
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offered salvationto the oppressed.
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[Prof. Geoff]
Cumberland Island hasa really interesting history
786
00:37:00,066 --> 00:37:02,367
during the war of 1812,
787
00:37:02,367 --> 00:37:04,367
where the British tried
to clamp a blockade
788
00:37:04,367 --> 00:37:04,440
up and down
the American Coast.
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00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,000
up and down
the American Coast.
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00:37:06,567 --> 00:37:09,066
[Robinson]
On January 10th of 1815,
791
00:37:09,066 --> 00:37:12,800
Rear Admiral Cockburninvaded Cumberland Island
792
00:37:12,867 --> 00:37:16,000
and set up camp down
in the Dungeness area
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using the Greene-Miller
Dungeness house
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00:37:18,667 --> 00:37:21,266
as his officers'headquarters.
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00:37:23,667 --> 00:37:26,467
[Prof. Michele] British lawprohibits slaveryat this point.
796
00:37:26,467 --> 00:37:28,667
He takes advantage of this.
797
00:37:28,667 --> 00:37:30,400
He knows that if he can get
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enslaved people
on British vessels
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that he can spirit them away
to freedom
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00:37:34,166 --> 00:37:34,440
and this is exactly
what happened.
801
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,000
and this is exactly
what happened.
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00:37:37,667 --> 00:37:39,467
[Kasper] But in 1815,
803
00:37:39,467 --> 00:37:41,567
with the fightingofficially over,
804
00:37:41,567 --> 00:37:44,800
a treaty was signedbetween the warring nations,
805
00:37:44,867 --> 00:37:47,000
it stated all slaves
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must be returnedto their owners.
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00:37:49,967 --> 00:37:51,867
[Prof. Geoff] Cockburn says,"The hell with that."
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00:37:51,867 --> 00:37:53,767
He takes any slaveshe can get
809
00:37:53,767 --> 00:37:56,967
and he ships them offto Canada or the Caribbean.
810
00:37:56,967 --> 00:38:01,266
In all, Cockburn ships
out 1,500 freed slaves
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from Cumberland Island.
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00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:04,440
[Kasper] Tragically,this would prove to be
813
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,000
[Kasper] Tragically,this would prove to be
814
00:38:06,567 --> 00:38:08,367
no more than a short reprieve
815
00:38:08,367 --> 00:38:10,767
for America'soppressed people.
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00:38:10,767 --> 00:38:12,867
Once again, this island
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00:38:12,867 --> 00:38:16,266
would become a place
where slavery thrived,
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00:38:16,266 --> 00:38:18,900
and the clues can be seen
in the landscape.
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[Kasper] And one manwas infamous
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00:38:22,467 --> 00:38:25,066
for his cruel desireto make profits
821
00:38:25,066 --> 00:38:27,467
from the forced laborof people.
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00:38:28,867 --> 00:38:31,400
[Prof. Geoff] Born onthe island in 1790,
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00:38:31,467 --> 00:38:33,000
Robert Stafford worked
824
00:38:33,066 --> 00:38:34,440
on the Miller-Greeneplantation
825
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,000
on the Miller-Greeneplantation
826
00:38:35,166 --> 00:38:38,500
and had a really good sense
of just how profitable
827
00:38:38,567 --> 00:38:40,567
cotton and slavery was.
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00:38:42,367 --> 00:38:44,700
[Prof. Michele]
These chimneys,
829
00:38:44,767 --> 00:38:46,567
these structuresthat are left,
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00:38:46,567 --> 00:38:50,266
these are the onlylasting physical legacy
831
00:38:50,266 --> 00:38:51,767
from this time period.
832
00:38:51,767 --> 00:38:53,900
They are actually the chimneys
833
00:38:53,967 --> 00:38:56,467
that were part
of the slave quarters.
834
00:38:56,467 --> 00:38:58,500
[Robinson] So based on
archeological investigation
835
00:38:58,567 --> 00:39:00,967
of the Stafford slave cabins,
836
00:39:00,967 --> 00:39:03,467
we believe these cabins
were fairly small,
837
00:39:03,467 --> 00:39:04,440
about 16x21 feet long.
838
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,000
about 16x21 feet long.
839
00:39:06,367 --> 00:39:09,266
A single room,
a small kitchen area,
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00:39:09,266 --> 00:39:10,767
sleeping quarters,
841
00:39:10,767 --> 00:39:12,767
and that's just about it.
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00:39:13,667 --> 00:39:15,567
[Kasper] At the heightof his empire,
843
00:39:15,567 --> 00:39:17,600
Stafford ownedmost of the island
844
00:39:17,667 --> 00:39:19,767
and 348 slaves.
845
00:39:21,467 --> 00:39:24,000
[Prof. Geoff]
Stafford had no qualmsabout reintroducing slavery
846
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,567
on the island.
847
00:39:25,567 --> 00:39:27,367
He was a dyed-in-the-woolsoutherner
848
00:39:27,367 --> 00:39:29,000
with a great belief in the,
849
00:39:29,066 --> 00:39:31,266
as they called it,peculiar institution.
850
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:34,440
But the slaves
who were forced to toil here
851
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,000
But the slaves
who were forced to toil here
852
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:36,800
against their will,
853
00:39:36,867 --> 00:39:39,467
change was coming,
albeit slowly.
854
00:39:40,967 --> 00:39:44,266
[Kasper] Once again, war wouldoffer a route to freedom.
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00:39:44,266 --> 00:39:47,767
This time, its legacypromised to endure.
856
00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:52,066
[Prof. Geoff] After Unionvictory in the war in 1865,
857
00:39:52,066 --> 00:39:54,567
slavery is abolished
in the South
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00:39:54,567 --> 00:39:56,266
and that's gonna have
a big impact
859
00:39:56,266 --> 00:39:57,900
on Cumberland Island's
economy.
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00:39:59,467 --> 00:40:02,200
Most of the slaveshad escaped to the mainland
861
00:40:02,266 --> 00:40:04,440
leaving Staffordwith no real means
862
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,000
leaving Staffordwith no real means
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00:40:05,066 --> 00:40:07,367
to run a plantation economy.
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00:40:07,367 --> 00:40:09,066
[Fran] Most other owners,
865
00:40:09,066 --> 00:40:12,500
they sold for a pittance
and moved on.
866
00:40:12,567 --> 00:40:14,400
But Stafford refused.
867
00:40:15,467 --> 00:40:17,667
[Kasper]
Until his dying breath,
868
00:40:17,667 --> 00:40:20,200
Stafford remaineda stalwart of the South
869
00:40:20,266 --> 00:40:22,767
and its strong beliefs.
870
00:40:22,767 --> 00:40:25,100
And Stafford is proof
of the aphorism
871
00:40:25,166 --> 00:40:26,867
that only the good die young.
872
00:40:26,867 --> 00:40:29,300
He lives to a ripe old ageof 86,
873
00:40:29,367 --> 00:40:32,367
takes a slave wife,has six children,
874
00:40:32,367 --> 00:40:34,266
and leaves them nothing.
875
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:37,400
[Kasper]
For the former slaves
876
00:40:37,467 --> 00:40:38,767
that stayed on the island,
877
00:40:38,767 --> 00:40:41,600
there was a glimmer of hope.
878
00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:43,467
[Prof. Michele]
They would work,they would do menial work,
879
00:40:43,467 --> 00:40:44,900
but they also could create
880
00:40:44,967 --> 00:40:46,400
on the north endof the island,
881
00:40:46,467 --> 00:40:48,867
a small communityfor themselves.
882
00:40:48,867 --> 00:40:51,800
They used reclaimed materialsfrom old buildings
883
00:40:51,867 --> 00:40:53,767
to build their own structures.
884
00:40:53,767 --> 00:40:57,367
And in 1893, very importantly,
885
00:40:57,367 --> 00:41:00,667
they erectedthe first African church
886
00:41:00,667 --> 00:41:02,400
which would becomean incredibly
887
00:41:02,467 --> 00:41:04,100
important community center.
888
00:41:11,667 --> 00:41:14,600
[Kasper] After the tragic eraof slavery passed,
889
00:41:14,667 --> 00:41:17,567
the island was transformedunder the stewardship
890
00:41:17,567 --> 00:41:19,100
of the Carnegies.
891
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:21,300
But not eventheir enormous wealth
892
00:41:21,367 --> 00:41:23,066
could save it from a descent
893
00:41:23,066 --> 00:41:24,800
into ruin seen today.
894
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:27,967
[Robinson]
The Dungeness Mansion
895
00:41:27,967 --> 00:41:30,600
was eventually closed downin 1925,
896
00:41:30,667 --> 00:41:34,367
almost ten years afterLucy Carnegie passed away.
897
00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:34,440
And at that point,it started to
898
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,000
And at that point,it started to
899
00:41:36,667 --> 00:41:38,667
fall into disrepairto some degree,
900
00:41:38,667 --> 00:41:41,100
and eventuallyit did burn in 1959.
901
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,867
The exact origin of the fire
902
00:41:43,867 --> 00:41:46,100
is not a hundred percentcertain
903
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:48,100
but it's believed thatit was poachers
904
00:41:48,166 --> 00:41:50,266
illegally huntingon the island
905
00:41:50,266 --> 00:41:52,100
but no one was ever caught
or convicted,
906
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:54,266
that is as the story goes.
907
00:41:54,266 --> 00:41:57,300
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