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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,046 --> 00:00:15,180 In 1888, Britain's first serial killer, 2 00:00:15,282 --> 00:00:19,451 Jack the Ripper went on a killing spree in London. 3 00:00:23,257 --> 00:00:24,923 He was never caught. 4 00:00:26,527 --> 00:00:28,894 But I know who the Ripper is. 5 00:00:30,431 --> 00:00:32,998 His real name is HH Holmes. 6 00:00:33,100 --> 00:00:36,468 And he was America's first serial killer. 7 00:00:36,570 --> 00:00:39,738 And he is my great, great grandfather. 8 00:00:44,612 --> 00:00:46,945 Previously on American Ripper. 9 00:00:47,047 --> 00:00:49,114 This is the place that evil man built 10 00:00:49,216 --> 00:00:51,450 that factory of death. 11 00:00:51,552 --> 00:00:53,032 If we want physical evidence to link. 12 00:00:53,087 --> 00:00:54,998 Ripper and Holmes, there is a strong chance that it is 13 00:00:55,022 --> 00:00:56,989 underneath that lot. 14 00:00:57,091 --> 00:00:58,771 This is a famous dear boss letter that is 15 00:00:58,859 --> 00:01:01,593 the first letter to be signed Jack the Ripper. 16 00:01:01,695 --> 00:01:04,696 The language certainly looks American. 17 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:06,598 The Ripper butchered Mary Kelly 18 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:09,468 to the point that she could have in theory been 19 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:11,603 an animal carcass. 20 00:01:11,705 --> 00:01:13,672 Today, there is amazing cutting edge 21 00:01:13,774 --> 00:01:16,875 technology that can create a composite photograph 22 00:01:16,977 --> 00:01:18,277 from eyewitness accounts of what 23 00:01:18,379 --> 00:01:20,679 Jack the Ripper looked like. 24 00:01:21,715 --> 00:01:24,950 If you took this composite to a judge, 25 00:01:25,052 --> 00:01:26,819 he'd issue a warrant. 26 00:01:39,733 --> 00:01:40,899 Wow. 27 00:01:41,001 --> 00:01:43,969 This is pretty compelling to me. 28 00:01:44,071 --> 00:01:48,640 You've got Jack on the left, you've got Holmes on the right. 29 00:01:48,742 --> 00:01:50,409 People have been telling me for years 30 00:01:50,511 --> 00:01:52,244 that my theory is crazy. 31 00:01:52,346 --> 00:01:56,081 At times I even began to doubt myself but now 32 00:01:56,183 --> 00:01:58,584 I can look into the eyes of Britain's most notorious 33 00:01:58,686 --> 00:02:00,586 serial killer and staring back at me 34 00:02:00,688 --> 00:02:02,688 is a very familiar face. 35 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:07,392 He is obviously 27 years old here, okay, 36 00:02:07,495 --> 00:02:10,162 if he was in London in 1888. 37 00:02:10,264 --> 00:02:11,504 The photo here's a police photo 38 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:14,566 after his arrest and he would've been 32 or 33. 39 00:02:14,668 --> 00:02:15,912 I know that we still have work to do 40 00:02:15,936 --> 00:02:18,070 to prove this beyond a reasonable doubt 41 00:02:18,172 --> 00:02:19,271 but for the moment, 42 00:02:19,373 --> 00:02:20,873 I feel vindicated. 43 00:02:22,276 --> 00:02:23,276 We now have 44 00:02:24,712 --> 00:02:29,114 an image of a potential suspect. 45 00:02:31,185 --> 00:02:33,652 We might be talking about Jack the Ripper. 46 00:02:33,721 --> 00:02:35,087 HH Holmes. 47 00:02:42,029 --> 00:02:44,763 How foolproof are these comparisons 48 00:02:44,865 --> 00:02:46,265 in your experience? 49 00:02:46,367 --> 00:02:48,127 The more eyewitness accounts that you have, 50 00:02:48,202 --> 00:02:51,737 with the more details involved the better and better result. 51 00:02:51,839 --> 00:02:54,573 I am really confident about how accurate it is. 52 00:02:54,675 --> 00:02:57,042 We've been able to track down in the press 13 53 00:02:57,144 --> 00:02:59,578 eyewitness reports of those who claim that they've seen 54 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,647 Jack the Ripper. 55 00:03:01,749 --> 00:03:04,082 That's an unusually high number. 56 00:03:04,184 --> 00:03:05,551 It's still not a smoking gun, 57 00:03:05,653 --> 00:03:09,288 but that composite picture looks a lot like HH Holmes. 58 00:03:09,390 --> 00:03:11,757 From what we have learned, I've been surprised 59 00:03:11,859 --> 00:03:15,494 that my major objections are beginning to melt away. 60 00:03:15,596 --> 00:03:19,631 There is not as dramatic a difference between these two 61 00:03:19,733 --> 00:03:21,800 killers as I had thought. 62 00:03:22,870 --> 00:03:24,937 We know the Ripper could have been a doctor 63 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:27,072 just like Holmes. 64 00:03:27,174 --> 00:03:29,341 Both killer seem to have enjoyed the act of dissection 65 00:03:29,443 --> 00:03:32,578 after they killed their victims. 66 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,080 Yeah and the conclusions the linguists 67 00:03:35,182 --> 00:03:37,583 had with the dear boss letter was written, 68 00:03:37,685 --> 00:03:39,785 in their opinion, by an American. 69 00:03:39,887 --> 00:03:41,987 Yeah, like most investigators, 70 00:03:42,089 --> 00:03:44,756 when I came here, I thought Jack the Ripper 71 00:03:44,858 --> 00:03:48,460 was the quintessential disorganized killer. 72 00:03:50,898 --> 00:03:54,833 But as we've heard about his ability to time the routes 73 00:03:54,935 --> 00:03:58,003 of law enforcement, and how his methods evolved 74 00:03:58,105 --> 00:04:01,440 with each kill, almost like he's perfecting a process. 75 00:04:01,542 --> 00:04:05,944 I am beginning to think that maybe he was of a higher IQ, 76 00:04:06,046 --> 00:04:10,816 more kind of organized, just like HH Holmes. 77 00:04:11,952 --> 00:04:15,854 With an escalation this dramatic and this quick. 78 00:04:17,224 --> 00:04:20,425 I would expect to see the killing continue. 79 00:04:20,527 --> 00:04:24,029 But the Ripper murders just stop and we've seen. 80 00:04:24,131 --> 00:04:28,367 Holmes's name, an alias, show up in ship manifest 81 00:04:28,469 --> 00:04:31,670 from London to America after the Whitechapel killings. 82 00:04:31,772 --> 00:04:33,172 I would say that this is the first 83 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,374 milestone where I am truly 84 00:04:37,111 --> 00:04:39,177 intrigued by your theory. 85 00:04:40,614 --> 00:04:42,381 We still have more investigating to do. 86 00:04:42,483 --> 00:04:44,516 I want to continue subjecting letters and artifacts 87 00:04:44,618 --> 00:04:47,185 to forensic analysis to see if we can find more links 88 00:04:47,287 --> 00:04:48,820 between Holmes and the Ripper. 89 00:04:48,922 --> 00:04:50,867 But what we are still missing is physical evidence 90 00:04:50,891 --> 00:04:52,691 from the crime scenes. 91 00:04:53,594 --> 00:04:54,871 We know no murder weapon was ever 92 00:04:54,895 --> 00:04:56,595 recovered here in London. 93 00:04:56,664 --> 00:04:59,031 So, if Holmes was the Ripper, whatever physical evidence 94 00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:03,535 remains may have traveled with him back across the ocean. 95 00:05:03,637 --> 00:05:04,981 Well, it appears that the trail leads back 96 00:05:05,005 --> 00:05:06,204 to the States. 97 00:05:06,306 --> 00:05:09,808 Guess we're on our way home. 98 00:05:20,354 --> 00:05:22,254 After everything we learned in London, 99 00:05:22,356 --> 00:05:25,424 I'm even more anxious to excavate under the post office 100 00:05:25,526 --> 00:05:27,859 where the murder castle stood. 101 00:05:27,961 --> 00:05:29,261 You and me both. 102 00:05:29,363 --> 00:05:31,530 If we're going to find physical evidence two tie Holmes 103 00:05:31,665 --> 00:05:34,232 to Ripper, that is where it's going to be. 104 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:35,614 So, what's the status on that? 105 00:05:35,703 --> 00:05:36,703 Have you heard anything? 106 00:05:36,804 --> 00:05:38,014 Yeah, my colleague gave me the name 107 00:05:38,038 --> 00:05:39,416 of someone at the post office we can talk 108 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,872 to about getting access. 109 00:05:40,974 --> 00:05:42,841 I think that as Holmes' great, great grandson, 110 00:05:42,943 --> 00:05:44,876 you should try to set up a meeting with him. 111 00:05:44,978 --> 00:05:46,856 And in the meantime, we should pick up Holmes' trail 112 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,213 where we left off. 113 00:05:48,315 --> 00:05:50,916 If a gap in his timeline reflects when he was in London, 114 00:05:51,018 --> 00:05:53,185 we should be able to pick his timeline back up 115 00:05:53,287 --> 00:05:56,188 when he returns to Chicago in the spring of 1889. 116 00:05:56,290 --> 00:05:57,689 Great. 117 00:05:57,791 --> 00:06:01,026 Our Chicago investigation into Holmes' paper trail 118 00:06:01,128 --> 00:06:04,229 revealed a gap in his whereabouts at 119 00:06:04,331 --> 00:06:05,764 as the Ripper murders. 120 00:06:05,866 --> 00:06:08,400 The evidence we found in London supports the theory 121 00:06:08,469 --> 00:06:10,135 that Holmes was there when the. 122 00:06:10,237 --> 00:06:12,037 Ripper killings were occurring. 123 00:06:12,139 --> 00:06:13,805 But to truly connect the two killers, 124 00:06:13,907 --> 00:06:15,874 we need to look for any traces of the Ripper 125 00:06:15,976 --> 00:06:18,076 and what Holmes did next. 126 00:06:19,980 --> 00:06:22,481 In Chicago in the spring of 1889, 127 00:06:22,583 --> 00:06:25,917 HH Holmes hires construction crews to convert his property 128 00:06:26,019 --> 00:06:29,154 on 63rd and Wallace into what we now know 129 00:06:29,256 --> 00:06:30,789 as the Murder Castle. 130 00:06:30,891 --> 00:06:33,558 His sinister intent was to build a place to kill 131 00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:36,595 and dissect his victims in private. 132 00:06:36,697 --> 00:06:40,165 His intentions for this building were definitely 133 00:06:40,267 --> 00:06:43,769 for murder and disposing of human remains. 134 00:06:43,871 --> 00:06:45,570 To find answers about physical evidence 135 00:06:45,672 --> 00:06:47,639 that might still be buried at the site, 136 00:06:47,741 --> 00:06:49,741 Jeff and Amaryllis meet with a documentarian 137 00:06:49,843 --> 00:06:53,278 and historian who is an expert on the Castle. 138 00:06:53,380 --> 00:06:55,647 He had ideally constructed this building 139 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:58,483 not only for murder and the disposal of human bodies 140 00:06:58,585 --> 00:07:01,486 but for him to enact his pleasure in privacy 141 00:07:01,588 --> 00:07:03,121 with these victims. 142 00:07:04,892 --> 00:07:06,102 That's an interesting point to me because 143 00:07:06,126 --> 00:07:08,326 we are just back from London and there, 144 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:10,262 we were looking at the Whitechapel murders 145 00:07:10,364 --> 00:07:12,330 and the fifth Jack the Ripper victim 146 00:07:12,432 --> 00:07:15,667 is so much more mutilated because 147 00:07:15,769 --> 00:07:18,603 the fifth victim, Mary Kelly is the only victim 148 00:07:18,705 --> 00:07:20,839 that was killed in private. 149 00:07:20,941 --> 00:07:24,342 I have to wonder if this was kind of a killer 150 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:26,845 in his adolescence who is developing his taste 151 00:07:26,947 --> 00:07:28,591 and his desires and if you take that to its 152 00:07:28,615 --> 00:07:30,849 logical conclusion as an industrious, 153 00:07:30,951 --> 00:07:34,853 entrepreneurial psychopath, creating your own hotel full 154 00:07:34,955 --> 00:07:39,324 of such private rooms would be an interesting next step. 155 00:07:39,426 --> 00:07:42,194 We've learned that the 1895 police investigation 156 00:07:42,296 --> 00:07:44,996 of the Murder Castle wasn't at all thorough. 157 00:07:45,098 --> 00:07:47,499 So, it's possible the police missed critical evidence 158 00:07:47,601 --> 00:07:50,168 that could connect Holmes to Jack the Ripper. 159 00:07:50,270 --> 00:07:54,005 And that evidence might still be buried underground today. 160 00:07:54,107 --> 00:07:55,407 It's straight out of the mind 161 00:07:55,509 --> 00:07:57,409 of Edgar Allen Poe when you look at this. 162 00:07:57,511 --> 00:08:01,680 It is definitely not out of Architectural Digest. 163 00:08:01,782 --> 00:08:03,742 On the first floor, there were shops and there was 164 00:08:03,784 --> 00:08:05,851 a jewelry store, a drug store on the corner 165 00:08:05,953 --> 00:08:07,919 and a blacksmith's shop. 166 00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:12,591 When you go up on the second floor there were many rooms, 167 00:08:12,693 --> 00:08:15,360 purposely built to disorient people and maybe victims 168 00:08:15,462 --> 00:08:17,462 that got away from him. 169 00:08:17,564 --> 00:08:21,733 For instance, you walk into this room which has five doors. 170 00:08:23,136 --> 00:08:26,671 You would open the door and it is a brick wall. 171 00:08:26,773 --> 00:08:28,651 And when he was constructing the building he would 172 00:08:28,675 --> 00:08:31,743 repeatedly hire and fire construction crews 173 00:08:31,845 --> 00:08:33,912 so no one knew the full layout. 174 00:08:34,014 --> 00:08:35,580 Wow. 175 00:08:37,117 --> 00:08:38,683 If you go up to the third floor 176 00:08:38,785 --> 00:08:41,186 that is where Holmes had rented rooms and these rooms 177 00:08:41,288 --> 00:08:43,188 these rooms were lined with asbestos 178 00:08:43,290 --> 00:08:44,756 to make them sound proof. 179 00:08:44,825 --> 00:08:48,393 Well, why, because he had gas lines coming from his office 180 00:08:48,462 --> 00:08:51,863 which he could gas people in their sleep. 181 00:08:53,333 --> 00:08:56,301 It was an odorless, colorless gas that would slowly 182 00:08:56,403 --> 00:08:58,937 shut down the victim's central nervous system. 183 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:02,073 This was perfect way to kill an unsuspecting guest 184 00:09:02,175 --> 00:09:04,309 with no struggle and without alerting any 185 00:09:04,411 --> 00:09:06,845 of the other residents of the castle. 186 00:09:06,914 --> 00:09:08,413 Essentially, turning his office into 187 00:09:08,515 --> 00:09:10,649 a command center of death. 188 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:14,953 Was there ever any evidence of a murder 189 00:09:15,055 --> 00:09:16,888 being committed in the building? 190 00:09:16,990 --> 00:09:18,657 No, and that is how much of an evil 191 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:20,959 criminal genius Holmes was. 192 00:09:23,530 --> 00:09:25,330 He knew how to cover up everything. 193 00:09:25,432 --> 00:09:27,499 He had this hidden chute running from the roof 194 00:09:27,601 --> 00:09:30,735 to the basement for a way of quickly disposing 195 00:09:30,837 --> 00:09:31,970 of the bodies. 196 00:09:34,775 --> 00:09:36,419 The basement was the most frightening place 197 00:09:36,443 --> 00:09:38,677 in the whole building. Because they found 198 00:09:38,779 --> 00:09:40,946 quicklime vats down there. 199 00:09:42,616 --> 00:09:45,984 Holmes may have used these in conjunction with acid baths 200 00:09:46,086 --> 00:09:48,853 to dissolve human flesh and as a chemist 201 00:09:48,956 --> 00:09:50,989 he would have realized that a lesser known use 202 00:09:51,091 --> 00:09:53,825 for quicklime is to prevent odor. 203 00:09:53,927 --> 00:09:56,127 This would have been extremely important if Holmes 204 00:09:56,229 --> 00:10:00,198 was hoarding body parts in the Murder Castle basement. 205 00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:03,335 And supposedly he did have this crematorium 206 00:10:03,437 --> 00:10:06,338 that he said was for glass bending but it was about 207 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,940 the size of the human body. 208 00:10:09,042 --> 00:10:10,342 Hearing that the Murder Castle 209 00:10:10,444 --> 00:10:12,444 was specifically designed not just to kill but also 210 00:10:12,479 --> 00:10:15,480 to destroy evidence is really discouraging. 211 00:10:15,582 --> 00:10:17,627 Because evidence is exactly what we need to definitely 212 00:10:17,651 --> 00:10:19,351 prove Jeff's theory. 213 00:10:19,419 --> 00:10:22,153 The good news is if we can get access to that lawn, 214 00:10:22,255 --> 00:10:25,490 modern equipment is so advanced that it may find traces 215 00:10:25,592 --> 00:10:27,070 of the murders that Holmes didn't know 216 00:10:27,094 --> 00:10:28,827 he was leaving behind. 217 00:10:28,929 --> 00:10:30,996 Where did these bodies go, were they burned? 218 00:10:31,098 --> 00:10:32,397 Were they sold as skeletons? 219 00:10:32,499 --> 00:10:34,165 Were they buried somewhere? 220 00:10:34,267 --> 00:10:36,768 They are gone, though, those people disappeared. 221 00:10:44,912 --> 00:10:47,913 This is the industrialization of murder. 222 00:10:48,015 --> 00:10:52,184 This is the Henry Ford model of killing human beings. 223 00:10:52,286 --> 00:10:55,353 You check them in and you send them to the basement 224 00:10:55,456 --> 00:10:59,257 and who knows what becomes of their remains after that. 225 00:10:59,359 --> 00:11:01,326 The swindler and criminal mastermind known 226 00:11:01,428 --> 00:11:04,096 as HH Holmes is rumored to have murdered hundreds 227 00:11:04,198 --> 00:11:07,632 of people inside his three story murder castle. 228 00:11:07,735 --> 00:11:09,367 Now, his great, great grandson, 229 00:11:09,470 --> 00:11:12,838 Jeff Mudgett and ex CIA operative Amaryllis Fox 230 00:11:12,940 --> 00:11:15,607 are chasing down leads to determine if any evidence 231 00:11:15,709 --> 00:11:17,876 connected to Jack the Ripper might still be buried 232 00:11:17,978 --> 00:11:19,644 on the castle grounds. 233 00:11:19,747 --> 00:11:22,614 The idea of being able to actually analyze 234 00:11:22,716 --> 00:11:26,518 fresh physical evidence that hasn't been contaminated 235 00:11:26,620 --> 00:11:29,287 becomes incredibly intriguing. 236 00:11:29,389 --> 00:11:31,857 If properly excavated there is the potential 237 00:11:31,959 --> 00:11:34,459 for history changing evidence. 238 00:11:35,662 --> 00:11:37,829 HH Holmes may have slaughtered hundreds of victims 239 00:11:37,931 --> 00:11:41,733 in the Murder Castle which was torn down in the 1930s. 240 00:11:41,835 --> 00:11:44,736 The government later built a post office on the plot 241 00:11:44,838 --> 00:11:47,372 and part of the Murder Castle basement would have lined up 242 00:11:47,474 --> 00:11:51,243 exactly with the post office front lawn. 243 00:11:51,345 --> 00:11:52,856 Given that we are talking about the end 244 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:58,183 of the 19th century, it seems unlikely that a home furnace 245 00:11:58,285 --> 00:12:02,053 could fully destroy a human body and if that's the case, 246 00:12:02,156 --> 00:12:04,389 we're looking at a potential treasure trove 247 00:12:04,491 --> 00:12:06,491 of physical evidence and body parts. 248 00:12:06,593 --> 00:12:09,928 So I'd like to go check out what furnaces at the time 249 00:12:10,030 --> 00:12:12,931 were capable of and get a sense of whether 250 00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:15,333 it's reasonable that there might actually 251 00:12:15,435 --> 00:12:17,435 be human remains under that lawn. 252 00:12:17,538 --> 00:12:19,115 I'm looking forward to pleading my case 253 00:12:19,139 --> 00:12:20,572 at the post office. 254 00:12:25,112 --> 00:12:27,379 Because the Murder Castle used to stand on grounds 255 00:12:27,481 --> 00:12:30,081 now owned by the Post Office, there's more than the usual 256 00:12:30,184 --> 00:12:32,517 amount of legal hurdles to overcome 257 00:12:32,619 --> 00:12:34,553 before they'll let us dig there. 258 00:12:34,655 --> 00:12:37,055 Finally meeting with someone with the legal authority 259 00:12:37,157 --> 00:12:40,058 to make this happen is a huge step. 260 00:12:46,733 --> 00:12:49,367 Wow, the heat is really overwhelming 261 00:12:49,469 --> 00:12:51,403 when you stand near it. 262 00:12:51,505 --> 00:12:53,438 While Jeff meets with post office officials 263 00:12:53,540 --> 00:12:56,808 to secure permission to excavate the Murder Castle site, 264 00:12:56,910 --> 00:12:59,945 Amaryllis visits a local crematory to investigate 265 00:13:00,047 --> 00:13:02,547 whether any human remains could have survived. 266 00:13:02,649 --> 00:13:06,618 Our cremation units go to 1600 dgrees 267 00:13:06,687 --> 00:13:08,587 and a normal human body 268 00:13:09,656 --> 00:13:12,390 takes about two hours to cremate. 269 00:13:13,727 --> 00:13:15,647 Newspaper accounts describe the murder castle's 270 00:13:15,696 --> 00:13:20,131 furnace as large enough to accommodate a human body. 271 00:13:20,234 --> 00:13:23,268 We brought some bone and muscle and flesh 272 00:13:23,370 --> 00:13:26,938 from a pig and so I was hoping that we could see whether 273 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,242 the remains could be entirely burned up or whether something 274 00:13:30,344 --> 00:13:31,076 is left over. 275 00:13:31,178 --> 00:13:32,577 Alright. 276 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,080 Scientists often substitute pig bones 277 00:13:35,182 --> 00:13:37,849 for human bones in forensic research because of their 278 00:13:37,951 --> 00:13:41,253 similar structure and bone density. 279 00:13:41,355 --> 00:13:43,822 Both have comparable rates of decomposition 280 00:13:43,924 --> 00:13:47,158 and reactions to stressors, such as heat. 281 00:13:51,131 --> 00:13:52,831 Wow, look at that. 282 00:13:52,933 --> 00:13:56,034 Just stand away for a minute. 283 00:13:56,136 --> 00:13:59,337 It's different from how I expected them to look. 284 00:13:59,439 --> 00:14:02,641 You're still left with very recognizable human bones 285 00:14:02,743 --> 00:14:03,508 as the remains. 286 00:14:03,610 --> 00:14:04,850 I mean this wasn't an efficient 287 00:14:04,912 --> 00:14:07,245 or successful way of getting rid of a body. 288 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:08,446 No. 289 00:14:08,548 --> 00:14:09,826 I'd be very surprised if he could have got 290 00:14:09,850 --> 00:14:13,685 a wood burning stove up to 1600 degrees, 291 00:14:13,787 --> 00:14:16,554 and then held it consistently for an hour. 292 00:14:16,623 --> 00:14:18,290 That would have been a lot of wood. 293 00:14:18,392 --> 00:14:19,524 You'd have to use a lot 294 00:14:19,626 --> 00:14:20,937 of wood you had. That's a lot of wood. 295 00:14:20,961 --> 00:14:23,128 He just couldn't put the body and throw some wood 296 00:14:23,230 --> 00:14:24,562 on it and leave. 297 00:14:25,599 --> 00:14:28,533 So, is the exhaust that comes from the burning 298 00:14:28,635 --> 00:14:31,436 of human remains, does it have a certain odor that 299 00:14:31,538 --> 00:14:34,973 in a residential environment would be noticeable? 300 00:14:35,042 --> 00:14:37,375 If it didn't have the equipment that we have today, 301 00:14:37,477 --> 00:14:38,510 it certainly would. 302 00:14:38,612 --> 00:14:40,612 It's a very pungent odor. 303 00:14:40,714 --> 00:14:42,781 Well, this is tremendously helpful to me, 304 00:14:42,883 --> 00:14:44,983 because it's actually a very different result 305 00:14:45,085 --> 00:14:47,052 from what we would have expected. 306 00:14:47,154 --> 00:14:48,598 The fact that it would be incredibly difficult 307 00:14:48,622 --> 00:14:50,855 to dispose of human bones by burning them, 308 00:14:50,958 --> 00:14:53,024 convinces me that an excavation might allow us 309 00:14:53,126 --> 00:14:54,993 to find the physical evidence we need. 310 00:14:55,095 --> 00:14:57,963 If this was the disposal process he was trying 311 00:14:58,065 --> 00:15:02,067 to use, that there would be fragments remaining. 312 00:15:08,642 --> 00:15:09,808 Jeff, how did it go? 313 00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:11,042 I think it went well. 314 00:15:11,144 --> 00:15:13,411 We should have an answer in the next few days. 315 00:15:13,513 --> 00:15:14,980 That is great news because 316 00:15:15,082 --> 00:15:17,449 given what I've learned about 19th century furnaces today, 317 00:15:17,517 --> 00:15:20,385 we are definitely going to find evidence under that ground. 318 00:15:20,487 --> 00:15:23,021 Great, see you soon. 319 00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:29,427 What I'd really like now that we're back is to begin 320 00:15:29,529 --> 00:15:32,931 to build out Holmes' timeline starting in 1889. 321 00:15:33,033 --> 00:15:34,232 Alright. 322 00:15:34,334 --> 00:15:35,611 Some speculate the castle claimed 323 00:15:35,635 --> 00:15:37,936 as many as 200 lives, but its true 324 00:15:38,038 --> 00:15:40,538 body count remains unverified. 325 00:15:41,508 --> 00:15:43,008 This was boomtown Chicago. 326 00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:45,410 He saw it as a chance to make money. 327 00:15:45,512 --> 00:15:46,592 Jeff and Amaryllis connect 328 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,514 with Chicago historian, Adam Selzer, 329 00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:54,386 to look for clues hidden in the trail of Holmes' many cons. 330 00:15:54,488 --> 00:15:56,421 Holmes was up to any number of scams. 331 00:15:56,523 --> 00:15:57,533 All these furniture companies, 332 00:15:57,557 --> 00:15:59,124 all these insurance companies. 333 00:15:59,226 --> 00:16:02,193 We've got the ABC Copier company that he was borrowing money 334 00:16:02,295 --> 00:16:04,295 on and never actually paying back. 335 00:16:04,398 --> 00:16:06,364 So, this was a legitimate company? 336 00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:08,146 It was more or less a legitimate company, 337 00:16:08,235 --> 00:16:11,102 he just didn't legitimately own it. 338 00:16:12,739 --> 00:16:15,040 They did this over and over again, 339 00:16:15,142 --> 00:16:17,876 buying things on credit and then never paying for it. 340 00:16:17,978 --> 00:16:21,212 I found at least 60 lawsuits in Chicago alone that this guy 341 00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:23,014 ended up in. 342 00:16:23,116 --> 00:16:24,916 This one is about buying barber shop goods 343 00:16:25,018 --> 00:16:28,520 to outfit the place which he also never actually paid back. 344 00:16:28,622 --> 00:16:30,833 Then he was selling this and he said it was mineral water 345 00:16:30,857 --> 00:16:33,224 that he got out of an artesian well in the basement. 346 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:35,293 It is regular tap water. 347 00:16:36,229 --> 00:16:39,097 The real amazing story bout Holmes is not 348 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:42,434 the serial killer aspect, it's the con, it's the fraud. 349 00:16:42,536 --> 00:16:46,137 It's the man who manipulated everyone in his life. 350 00:16:46,239 --> 00:16:48,217 They were calling him things like the King of Criminals 351 00:16:48,241 --> 00:16:50,108 and the arch fiend of the century before they 352 00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:52,410 suspected him of a single murder. 353 00:16:53,647 --> 00:16:57,482 When does he go from being a skilled legal trickster 354 00:16:57,584 --> 00:17:00,718 and scam artist to taking human life? 355 00:17:01,755 --> 00:17:03,075 Well, the Conners were the first 356 00:17:03,156 --> 00:17:04,700 of the allegedly murders that could have taken place 357 00:17:04,724 --> 00:17:06,224 in the castle. 358 00:17:06,326 --> 00:17:08,393 That would be Julia and Pearl Conner. 359 00:17:08,495 --> 00:17:09,661 Pearl's the daughter? 360 00:17:09,763 --> 00:17:10,907 Pearl is the daughter, yes. 361 00:17:10,931 --> 00:17:12,597 Julia and her husband had come 362 00:17:12,699 --> 00:17:15,567 to live in the castle building. Her husband Ned was working 363 00:17:15,669 --> 00:17:16,835 in the jewelry department. 364 00:17:16,937 --> 00:17:18,236 She ended up keeping the books 365 00:17:18,338 --> 00:17:20,305 and also having an affair with Holmes. 366 00:17:20,407 --> 00:17:21,573 Wow. 367 00:17:21,675 --> 00:17:23,152 Where was the husband, was the affair going on 368 00:17:23,176 --> 00:17:24,309 right under his nose? 369 00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:27,178 For a little while, yeah, but then he left. 370 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,481 So Adam, why did he kill the Conners? 371 00:17:29,583 --> 00:17:32,283 Most likely it was because she just knew too much. 372 00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:34,752 She was keeping the books at the Murder Castle, and Holmes 373 00:17:34,855 --> 00:17:36,365 was up to any number of scams that she might have 374 00:17:36,389 --> 00:17:37,989 found out about. 375 00:17:38,091 --> 00:17:42,260 Julia and Pearl then disappeared around Christmas of 1891. 376 00:17:44,064 --> 00:17:45,430 Pearl looks quite young here. 377 00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:47,510 She would have been about six when she disappeared. 378 00:17:47,534 --> 00:17:48,867 Wow. 379 00:17:48,969 --> 00:17:50,635 What did Holmes say happened to them? 380 00:17:50,737 --> 00:17:52,804 Holmes was fairly consistent in saying that Julia 381 00:17:52,906 --> 00:17:54,572 died in an abortion. 382 00:17:59,713 --> 00:18:02,881 Then he had to get rid of the kid too. 383 00:18:02,983 --> 00:18:04,943 Most likely he would have put Julia and Pearl down 384 00:18:04,985 --> 00:18:06,551 with the chloroform and then just going 385 00:18:06,653 --> 00:18:08,319 with the chloroform. 386 00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:11,156 Now, when they were digging up the castle 387 00:18:11,258 --> 00:18:13,158 a few years later, they started finding bones 388 00:18:13,260 --> 00:18:15,827 that appeared to a six year old child. 389 00:18:15,929 --> 00:18:17,228 No kidding. 390 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:18,741 If the police at the time found bones 391 00:18:18,765 --> 00:18:20,899 in the murder castle basement, it supports the theory 392 00:18:21,001 --> 00:18:23,168 that the furnace couldn't get hot enough to process 393 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:24,502 all these bodies. 394 00:18:24,604 --> 00:18:26,249 He must have had to dispose of them in a variety 395 00:18:26,273 --> 00:18:28,873 of different ways, including burial. 396 00:18:28,975 --> 00:18:31,342 So if Pearl's body was buried underground, 397 00:18:31,444 --> 00:18:32,877 what did he do with Julia? 398 00:18:32,979 --> 00:18:35,813 While the police were digging up the castle in 1895, 399 00:18:35,916 --> 00:18:37,982 they brought in this supposedly witnessed, 400 00:18:38,084 --> 00:18:41,152 they called him the machinist or a bone rigger? 401 00:18:41,254 --> 00:18:43,721 He bought several dead bodies from HH Holmes to turn 402 00:18:43,823 --> 00:18:46,991 into skeletons which could then be sold to medical schools. 403 00:18:47,093 --> 00:18:49,360 And one of those we think was Julia? 404 00:18:49,462 --> 00:18:51,062 Presumably, yeah. 405 00:18:52,766 --> 00:18:54,911 In one of the descriptions he says the body looked like 406 00:18:54,935 --> 00:18:58,236 that of a jackrabbit which is been skinned by splitting 407 00:18:58,338 --> 00:19:00,505 the skin down the base and rolling it back off 408 00:19:00,607 --> 00:19:01,906 the entire body. 409 00:19:03,443 --> 00:19:04,676 Wow. 410 00:19:04,778 --> 00:19:08,613 That's not the Holmes I had been imagining at all. 411 00:19:08,715 --> 00:19:12,884 Jeff, that's similar to what we have seen with Mary Kelly, 412 00:19:13,853 --> 00:19:16,554 the fifth Jack the Ripper victim. 413 00:19:20,093 --> 00:19:23,328 (Heme) 414 00:19:24,264 --> 00:19:25,909 This body looked like that of a jackrabbit 415 00:19:25,933 --> 00:19:28,033 that had been skinned. 416 00:19:28,135 --> 00:19:29,495 Investigating the gruesome deaths 417 00:19:29,570 --> 00:19:31,970 that occurred in HH Holmes' Murder Castle, 418 00:19:32,072 --> 00:19:35,040 Jeff and Amaryllis unearth an unexpected link. 419 00:19:35,142 --> 00:19:38,476 That sounds more Jack the Ripper like to me. 420 00:19:38,579 --> 00:19:40,712 An original eye witness report, 421 00:19:40,814 --> 00:19:43,148 offering a rare glimpse into the bloody aftermath 422 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:44,382 of Holmes' deeds, 423 00:19:44,484 --> 00:19:49,154 and its similarity to the Ripper killings. 424 00:19:49,256 --> 00:19:53,458 Hearing of a body laid horizontal and the skin removed 425 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,528 and flayed open like a jackrabbit is pretty striking. 426 00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:59,464 Jack the Ripper's victims were all cut open along 427 00:19:59,566 --> 00:20:03,702 the abdomen and splayed in that exact same fashion. 428 00:20:03,804 --> 00:20:06,237 This makes me wonder if Holmes could have been conducting 429 00:20:06,340 --> 00:20:09,574 the same kind of savage killings as Jack but because 430 00:20:09,676 --> 00:20:11,509 it was in his own hotel, in his own castle, 431 00:20:11,612 --> 00:20:13,056 it was never really known to the public. 432 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,379 Yeah. 433 00:20:14,481 --> 00:20:16,492 Especially when you consider Holmes in the basement. 434 00:20:16,516 --> 00:20:19,017 He had complete privacy there. 435 00:20:21,855 --> 00:20:23,099 What I really want to get my hands on 436 00:20:23,123 --> 00:20:24,522 is more physical evidence. 437 00:20:24,625 --> 00:20:27,892 And for that we really need sites where we know that 438 00:20:27,995 --> 00:20:29,227 Holmes was active. 439 00:20:29,329 --> 00:20:31,563 He was active all over the country, 440 00:20:31,665 --> 00:20:34,265 he had some scams going in St. Louis for a while, 441 00:20:34,368 --> 00:20:38,203 several months in Fort Worth, Philadelphia. 442 00:20:38,305 --> 00:20:40,739 He went to New York several times, 443 00:20:40,841 --> 00:20:43,108 stayed at the Aster House, very fancy. 444 00:20:43,210 --> 00:20:44,609 Right around 1893. 445 00:20:44,711 --> 00:20:47,979 There was a woman named Mae Barretts who apparently met. 446 00:20:48,081 --> 00:20:52,250 HH Holmes, went to work for him in New York and disappeared. 447 00:20:53,654 --> 00:20:56,054 Well that's interesting. 448 00:20:56,156 --> 00:20:58,123 We've been hearing story after story of victims 449 00:20:58,225 --> 00:21:00,525 of Holmes disappearing in the murder castle. 450 00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:02,587 But knowing that an employee of Holmes disappeared 451 00:21:02,663 --> 00:21:05,196 in New York is an interesting lead. 452 00:21:05,298 --> 00:21:06,709 This may mean that there are more victims 453 00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:08,900 than we originally thought and potentially 454 00:21:09,002 --> 00:21:10,802 more crime scenes. 455 00:21:10,904 --> 00:21:13,371 He covered his tracks really well when he was in New York. 456 00:21:13,473 --> 00:21:15,118 Most of the time he was traveling around I have 457 00:21:15,142 --> 00:21:17,208 a pretty good idea what he was doing in the city. 458 00:21:17,310 --> 00:21:19,577 New York is total mystery every time. 459 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,640 There is documentation that he took multiple trips 460 00:21:21,715 --> 00:21:23,982 between 1889 and 1894. 461 00:21:24,084 --> 00:21:26,618 One interesting gap for me is towards the middle 462 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,386 of spring of 1891. 463 00:21:28,488 --> 00:21:31,289 There is not much data for him for a couple of weeks there. 464 00:21:31,391 --> 00:21:33,391 Holmes being unaccounted for in New York 465 00:21:33,493 --> 00:21:35,894 is an interesting thread for me. 466 00:21:35,996 --> 00:21:37,896 I'd like to do some more research on crimes 467 00:21:37,998 --> 00:21:41,733 that were occurring there that might have a similar MO. 468 00:21:49,209 --> 00:21:51,576 Looking through media clippings and newspaper reports 469 00:21:51,678 --> 00:21:53,389 is our best bet to see the if there's any evidence 470 00:21:53,413 --> 00:21:55,346 of similar crimes in New York. 471 00:21:55,449 --> 00:21:57,248 At the Evanston Public Library, 472 00:21:57,350 --> 00:22:00,185 Jeff and Amaryllis access a database of local media 473 00:22:00,287 --> 00:22:03,254 and police reports from the spring of 1891. 474 00:22:03,356 --> 00:22:05,123 They're searching for any unsolved murders 475 00:22:05,225 --> 00:22:08,560 in New York City that could be the work of HH Holmes. 476 00:22:08,662 --> 00:22:12,831 This is the first of the results I found for New York. 477 00:22:13,767 --> 00:22:15,333 Killed and Boiled her. 478 00:22:15,435 --> 00:22:17,035 This is the slaughter of a little girl. 479 00:22:17,137 --> 00:22:21,339 Holmes had interesting means of disposing of his victims, 480 00:22:21,441 --> 00:22:24,342 though the MO seems a little off to me. 481 00:22:24,444 --> 00:22:27,445 This is a multi victim murder spree. 482 00:22:28,949 --> 00:22:31,182 That's not really Holmes' style either. 483 00:22:31,284 --> 00:22:35,320 Holmes was a sophisticated, premeditative killer, 484 00:22:35,422 --> 00:22:37,222 who mutilated his victims. 485 00:22:37,324 --> 00:22:39,624 So we're looking for privately executed killings 486 00:22:39,726 --> 00:22:43,495 where the body appears to have been dissected. 487 00:22:43,597 --> 00:22:44,597 No link there. 488 00:22:44,631 --> 00:22:45,631 I agree. 489 00:22:46,967 --> 00:22:48,444 That string of murders was in fact, solved. 490 00:22:48,468 --> 00:22:50,168 So we can eliminate that from our list. 491 00:22:50,270 --> 00:22:51,270 That wasn't Holmes. 492 00:22:51,338 --> 00:22:53,304 Yeah, this one's interesting. 493 00:22:53,406 --> 00:22:55,740 Choked then mutilated, 494 00:22:55,842 --> 00:22:58,843 body horribly slashed and disemboweled. 495 00:22:58,945 --> 00:23:02,547 That really does sound more like Holmes' killing style. 496 00:23:02,649 --> 00:23:06,351 This is 1891, so it's an appropriate time period 497 00:23:06,453 --> 00:23:07,852 for Holmes to be in New York. 498 00:23:07,954 --> 00:23:09,921 The murder was committed on the southeast corner 499 00:23:10,023 --> 00:23:13,658 of Catherine and Water Street, in the East River Hotel. 500 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,059 Wait a minute. 501 00:23:15,162 --> 00:23:17,006 That's very close to the Astor House where Holmes liked 502 00:23:17,030 --> 00:23:18,596 to stay when he was in New York City. 503 00:23:18,698 --> 00:23:19,430 Really? 504 00:23:19,533 --> 00:23:20,331 Yes. 505 00:23:20,433 --> 00:23:22,333 So, her name was Carrie Brown. 506 00:23:22,435 --> 00:23:24,836 The victim was an aged woman. 507 00:23:25,872 --> 00:23:27,539 There were marks about her throat, 508 00:23:27,641 --> 00:23:30,008 before the mutilations were performed. 509 00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:33,111 It says on the back was a mark like an X. 510 00:23:33,213 --> 00:23:35,380 That's the same as the fourth ripper murder. 511 00:23:35,482 --> 00:23:39,017 Catherine Eddows, the X on her cheek. 512 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,354 This was evidently the murderer's sign. 513 00:23:43,456 --> 00:23:45,290 Many of the details recall the crimes with 514 00:23:45,392 --> 00:23:48,593 which Jack the Ripper horrified London. 515 00:23:50,664 --> 00:23:53,531 The crime remains unsolved. 516 00:23:53,633 --> 00:23:55,611 This is crazy, the police at the time really thought 517 00:23:55,635 --> 00:23:59,437 this murder was committed by Jack the Ripper. 518 00:24:00,907 --> 00:24:04,209 Scotland Yard came over to New York to follow 519 00:24:04,311 --> 00:24:08,479 that potential lead and Holmes was in New York at the time. 520 00:24:17,423 --> 00:24:19,423 Choked then mutilated. 521 00:24:19,525 --> 00:24:22,693 That really does sound like the Jack the Ripper MO. 522 00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:24,161 Souring the archives for evidence 523 00:24:24,263 --> 00:24:27,164 of a HH Holmes style killings in New York City, 524 00:24:27,266 --> 00:24:30,034 Jeff and Amaryllis uncover something unexpected. 525 00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:33,937 An unsolved murder in the Spring of 1891 that appears 526 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,173 to link to Jack the Ripper. 527 00:24:36,275 --> 00:24:40,611 The crime remains unsolved and Holmes was in New York 528 00:24:40,713 --> 00:24:41,713 at the time. 529 00:24:42,982 --> 00:24:45,249 It's worth me going and digging though records 530 00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:47,029 in New York and seeing whether we can turn up 531 00:24:47,053 --> 00:24:48,385 some more information. 532 00:24:48,487 --> 00:24:50,065 I'm gonna stick around in Chicago in case there's 533 00:24:50,089 --> 00:24:52,089 an answer on our dig. 534 00:24:52,191 --> 00:24:54,591 I'm gonna give up on getting the government 535 00:24:54,693 --> 00:24:58,695 to allow us to excavate the Post Office grounds. 536 00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:05,669 This remains an open. 537 00:25:05,738 --> 00:25:06,804 Yes. 538 00:25:06,906 --> 00:25:09,239 Case on New York Police Department books. 539 00:25:09,341 --> 00:25:10,341 Yes, right. 540 00:25:10,376 --> 00:25:11,453 Cases are never closed until we have 541 00:25:11,477 --> 00:25:13,210 the actual perpetrator. 542 00:25:13,312 --> 00:25:14,912 In New York City, Amaryllis connects 543 00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:18,082 with former NYPD detective, Ike Illkiw, 544 00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:20,784 an expert on the unsolved murder of Carrie Brown to get 545 00:25:20,886 --> 00:25:22,820 the facts on the case. 546 00:25:22,922 --> 00:25:26,290 From a detective's mind, could you walk me through 547 00:25:26,392 --> 00:25:28,592 what happened with Carrie Brown? 548 00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:33,263 We're talking about April 1891 and Carrie Brown was 549 00:25:33,365 --> 00:25:36,633 a prostitute working on the East River. 550 00:25:36,735 --> 00:25:38,346 And we know the Ripper targeted prostitutes 551 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,437 as his victims in White Chapel. 552 00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:43,273 So apparently she had picked up a male, brought him up 553 00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:46,577 to room 31, at what was then the East River Hotel. 554 00:25:49,348 --> 00:25:52,282 She wasn't found until the next morning when the girl 555 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:54,429 that was hired to clean the room went up and there was 556 00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:55,886 no answer to the door. 557 00:25:55,988 --> 00:25:57,054 To the knock. 558 00:25:58,224 --> 00:26:00,457 Does she provide any witness statement? 559 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,926 All it says is not the slightest noise was heard 560 00:26:03,028 --> 00:26:05,829 during the night from the chamber, but in the morning 561 00:26:05,931 --> 00:26:07,075 when a servant rapped on the door 562 00:26:07,099 --> 00:26:09,099 the summons was unanswered. 563 00:26:09,201 --> 00:26:11,602 With the assistance of the porter, burst open the door. 564 00:26:11,704 --> 00:26:13,048 The woman was found in bed, quite dead 565 00:26:13,072 --> 00:26:15,339 and covered with blood. 566 00:26:20,546 --> 00:26:22,846 So, why do people believe that Carrie Brown might have 567 00:26:22,948 --> 00:26:24,348 been a Ripper victim? 568 00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:27,618 She was disemboweled, her intestines had been removed. 569 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,219 Is there a coroner's report? 570 00:26:29,321 --> 00:26:30,387 Yeah. 571 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:33,690 Her abdomen had been ripped open by a dull, 572 00:26:33,792 --> 00:26:36,560 broken table knife which was found in the room. 573 00:26:36,662 --> 00:26:39,363 Part of the intestines had been removed and are missing. 574 00:26:39,465 --> 00:26:41,732 So, an organ was removed. 575 00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:43,033 Was her throat slit? 576 00:26:43,135 --> 00:26:44,579 No, it was strangulation by clothing, 577 00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,303 according to the coroner's report. 578 00:26:46,405 --> 00:26:49,740 That's interesting because from what I learned 579 00:26:49,842 --> 00:26:53,577 from investigators in London, each of the five canonical. 580 00:26:53,679 --> 00:26:57,848 Ripper victims were killed by strangulation 581 00:26:57,950 --> 00:27:00,050 and, or the cutting of the throat. 582 00:27:00,152 --> 00:27:01,152 Right. 583 00:27:02,488 --> 00:27:04,855 Was she disemboweled from between the legs 584 00:27:04,957 --> 00:27:05,689 up through the abdomen? 585 00:27:05,791 --> 00:27:08,158 It would appear so. 586 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:10,227 That is strikingly similar to. 587 00:27:10,329 --> 00:27:11,361 Right. 588 00:27:11,463 --> 00:27:13,764 Jack the Ripper's killings in London. 589 00:27:13,866 --> 00:27:17,100 This is a picture of Catherine Eddowes, 590 00:27:17,203 --> 00:27:20,103 who of course had been disemboweled and her uterus 591 00:27:20,206 --> 00:27:22,372 and her kidney had been removed. 592 00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:24,741 What strikes me comparing the Catherine Eddowes 593 00:27:24,843 --> 00:27:28,278 and Carrie Brown autopsy photos, is that they both have 594 00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:32,683 this cadaver on the dissection table feel to them. 595 00:27:32,785 --> 00:27:38,956 HH Holmes had a long history of dissecting cadavers. 596 00:27:39,058 --> 00:27:41,758 Holmes was described as opening up his cadavers 597 00:27:41,860 --> 00:27:45,395 like a jackrabbit being dissected. 598 00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:48,565 And that is not a bad description for both 599 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:51,635 Carrie Brown and Catherine Eddowes. 600 00:27:51,737 --> 00:27:53,181 Assuming that Carrie Brown was a victim 601 00:27:53,205 --> 00:27:55,672 of Jack the Ripper in America, then proving that Holmes 602 00:27:55,741 --> 00:27:57,708 killed Carrie Brown means proving that 603 00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:59,409 Holmes is the Ripper. 604 00:27:59,511 --> 00:28:02,112 Why Holmes would execute this particular killing outside 605 00:28:02,214 --> 00:28:04,047 of the Murder Castle, we don't know. 606 00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:06,316 But it's a fascinating find. 607 00:28:06,418 --> 00:28:08,697 What I always find interesting is the, where it says here, 608 00:28:08,721 --> 00:28:12,256 the characteristics of this tragedy are so exactly similar 609 00:28:12,358 --> 00:28:15,058 to the White Chapel murders that the police confidently 610 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,363 express the belief that the murderer is Jack the Ripper. 611 00:28:27,940 --> 00:28:30,908 Carrie Brown was a quintessential Ripper victim. 612 00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:33,510 She was a prostitute, she was strangled 613 00:28:33,612 --> 00:28:36,613 and disemboweled indoors, just like the fifth 614 00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:38,015 Jack the Ripper killing. 615 00:28:38,117 --> 00:28:39,783 Class Jack M.O. 616 00:28:39,885 --> 00:28:42,419 Amaryllis returns to Chicago to debrief Jeff 617 00:28:42,521 --> 00:28:44,621 on her New York investigation while they wait 618 00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:47,190 for news on the Murder Castle dig. 619 00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:50,027 So more Holmes Ripper coincidences. 620 00:28:50,129 --> 00:28:52,095 I mean they do keep piling up. 621 00:28:52,197 --> 00:28:55,032 And I think we can say from this that it validates 622 00:28:55,134 --> 00:28:59,436 our theory that Jack the Ripper may have been an American 623 00:28:59,538 --> 00:29:02,105 and that his killing may have picked up in the United States 624 00:29:02,207 --> 00:29:03,307 after it stopped in London. 625 00:29:03,409 --> 00:29:05,242 Hold on, this might be the post office. 626 00:29:05,344 --> 00:29:07,010 Yeah, Jeff Mudget. 627 00:29:09,949 --> 00:29:11,848 Thanks for calling. 628 00:29:11,951 --> 00:29:14,685 Do you have any word back on my request? 629 00:29:14,787 --> 00:29:16,320 If Holmes really was Jack the Ripper, 630 00:29:16,422 --> 00:29:18,789 this could be the only site where we can find evidence 631 00:29:18,891 --> 00:29:21,224 that links Holmes to the London murders. 632 00:29:21,327 --> 00:29:22,904 Gaining access to the castle lawn would be 633 00:29:22,928 --> 00:29:25,629 a huge breakthrough in our investigation. 634 00:29:25,731 --> 00:29:28,465 I appreciate the call. 635 00:29:28,567 --> 00:29:30,067 Goodbye. 636 00:29:30,169 --> 00:29:32,235 That didn't sound good. 637 00:29:32,338 --> 00:29:34,471 No, they said no. 638 00:29:34,573 --> 00:29:36,340 Post office shut us down. 639 00:29:36,442 --> 00:29:39,176 They were concerned that the excavation would be 640 00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,578 a disruption of the mail and perhaps even a disservice 641 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,680 to the community. 642 00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:46,016 I mean, for any investigator to be told 643 00:29:46,118 --> 00:29:49,019 that you're investigating a multiple homicide 644 00:29:49,121 --> 00:29:51,755 but you're not allowed access to the scene of the crime, 645 00:29:51,857 --> 00:29:53,557 is a really tough blow. 646 00:29:53,659 --> 00:29:58,028 If this were a case that that was open and active right now, 647 00:29:58,130 --> 00:30:01,098 we would be getting a different answer. 648 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,433 Getting underground at the Murder Castle was 649 00:30:03,535 --> 00:30:07,537 the best chance we had at proving Holmes was the Ripper. 650 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,041 It sounds like an excavation is off the table for now. 651 00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:13,343 That is a big disappointment. 652 00:30:13,445 --> 00:30:15,323 I still have my fingers crossed that we'll get the chance 653 00:30:15,347 --> 00:30:17,614 one day if we keep up the pressure. 654 00:30:17,716 --> 00:30:18,982 Cold cases are tough. 655 00:30:19,051 --> 00:30:21,218 There are always two steps forward, one step back. 656 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,755 This is definitely a setback for our investigation. 657 00:30:24,857 --> 00:30:26,868 But we do have some evidence we haven't analyzed yet. 658 00:30:26,892 --> 00:30:29,626 We have a couple of letters from the Jack the Ripper 659 00:30:29,728 --> 00:30:33,030 killings that forensic linguists have told us may have been 660 00:30:33,132 --> 00:30:34,398 written by an American. 661 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,266 And at this stage we have many samples 662 00:30:36,368 --> 00:30:37,768 of Holmes' handwriting. 663 00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:40,904 So I've sent those to a forensic handwriting expert 664 00:30:41,006 --> 00:30:42,639 to see if there were any similarities 665 00:30:42,741 --> 00:30:44,741 that could prove or disprove your theory. 666 00:30:44,843 --> 00:30:47,577 If we do get a positive match, that would go a long way 667 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,181 to proving they are the same killer. 668 00:30:58,724 --> 00:31:01,158 The normal lay person will look at letters. 669 00:31:01,260 --> 00:31:03,994 The letter L looks the same, the G looks the same, 670 00:31:04,096 --> 00:31:05,662 the T looks the same. 671 00:31:05,764 --> 00:31:09,399 What the expert does, we'll look at patterns. 672 00:31:09,501 --> 00:31:11,435 Like fingerprints, handwriting is unique 673 00:31:11,537 --> 00:31:15,138 to each individual and different to fake or manipulate. 674 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,774 Forensic document examiners can identify criminals 675 00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:21,111 and forgeries by studying writing samples. 676 00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:22,824 Could you give us a few examples of what it is 677 00:31:22,848 --> 00:31:23,680 you look for? 678 00:31:23,782 --> 00:31:24,948 Sure. 679 00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:26,728 In this particular case that I was working on 680 00:31:26,752 --> 00:31:30,187 when you came in, we look for common letters 681 00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:32,089 but we'll also look for common words. 682 00:31:32,191 --> 00:31:37,461 In the word, In, this looks like a U, but in fact it's an N. 683 00:31:37,563 --> 00:31:40,597 We'll look at different height relationships between 684 00:31:40,699 --> 00:31:42,299 different letters, or, 685 00:31:42,401 --> 00:31:45,836 the skill and speed of the writer, to provide the basis 686 00:31:45,938 --> 00:31:48,538 for our identification or elimination 687 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,840 of a particular writer. 688 00:31:49,942 --> 00:31:52,843 How would you tell when letters are written 689 00:31:52,945 --> 00:31:55,212 by the same person who was intentionally trying 690 00:31:55,314 --> 00:31:57,214 to mask their identity? 691 00:31:58,617 --> 00:32:02,486 If I suspect a disguise, I will go right to the end, 692 00:32:02,588 --> 00:32:05,188 because it's very difficult to keep up the disguise 693 00:32:05,290 --> 00:32:07,357 from the beginning to the end. 694 00:32:07,459 --> 00:32:10,193 And then start from the end and work our way up. 695 00:32:10,295 --> 00:32:13,864 Then you'll see more of the natural writing of the person. 696 00:32:13,966 --> 00:32:17,601 So, we have here two sets of letters. 697 00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:20,637 And we're interested in your professional opinion 698 00:32:20,739 --> 00:32:23,140 about whether or not they could have been penned 699 00:32:23,242 --> 00:32:24,541 by the same hand. 700 00:32:24,643 --> 00:32:26,042 OK. 701 00:32:26,178 --> 00:32:28,678 How long does it take you to do this kind of analysis? 702 00:32:28,781 --> 00:32:31,047 Generally about a week for us to turn it around. 703 00:32:31,150 --> 00:32:33,316 Sounds good. 704 00:32:36,321 --> 00:32:38,054 With the handwriting analysis underway, 705 00:32:38,157 --> 00:32:40,223 Jeff and Amaryllis meet with Ray Johnson to plan 706 00:32:40,325 --> 00:32:42,025 their next move. 707 00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:43,605 We've been officially shut down from digging under 708 00:32:43,629 --> 00:32:44,861 the post office. 709 00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:47,764 And the frustrating thing is that that lawn, 710 00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:49,699 where the Murder Castle used to stand, 711 00:32:49,802 --> 00:32:53,770 is the only repository of Holmes' victims. 712 00:32:53,872 --> 00:32:56,373 Well, I wouldn't say only. 713 00:32:56,475 --> 00:32:58,875 While the Murder Castle was one of Holmes 714 00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:02,245 most famous buildings, he did own property all over Chicago 715 00:33:02,347 --> 00:33:03,780 in fact all over the country. 716 00:33:03,882 --> 00:33:06,616 And the reason being was to cover up his various schemes. 717 00:33:06,718 --> 00:33:09,386 Some of the properties he owned- were the Wilmette property 718 00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:12,722 which he owned with his second wife, Myrta Belknap. 719 00:33:12,825 --> 00:33:15,625 A small farm just outside of Joliet. 720 00:33:15,727 --> 00:33:18,795 The glass bending factory in the North Side of Chicago. 721 00:33:18,864 --> 00:33:20,424 And everywhere that he owned real estate 722 00:33:20,499 --> 00:33:22,866 you can be sure he was killing people. 723 00:33:22,968 --> 00:33:25,702 The unfortunate thing is that like the Murder Castle, 724 00:33:25,804 --> 00:33:29,973 the other locations that he operated in had been torn down 725 00:33:30,075 --> 00:33:32,876 to make room for condos and other buildings. 726 00:33:32,978 --> 00:33:36,379 So to be able to dig there would be next to impossible. 727 00:33:36,481 --> 00:33:38,359 So is there anywhere left that we could possibly 728 00:33:38,383 --> 00:33:40,884 find physical evidence. 729 00:33:40,986 --> 00:33:44,254 Well, the one business that Holmes did own that might be 730 00:33:44,356 --> 00:33:47,290 worth investigating is the William Green & company. 731 00:33:47,392 --> 00:33:50,293 Now, that is the location that I believe in 1892 he disposed 732 00:33:50,395 --> 00:33:53,563 of one of his victims, Emeline Cigrand. 733 00:33:53,665 --> 00:33:57,567 She moved to the castle and started working for Holmes. 734 00:33:57,669 --> 00:34:00,737 She was a stenographer and secretary. 735 00:34:02,007 --> 00:34:05,008 All of a sudden out of nowhere this announcement hits 736 00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:06,910 the newspaper that she is getting married 737 00:34:07,012 --> 00:34:09,179 to someone named Robert Phelps. 738 00:34:11,116 --> 00:34:12,927 And one of her friends is like, That's odd because I had 739 00:34:12,951 --> 00:34:15,585 contact with her on December 5th and 6th 740 00:34:15,687 --> 00:34:16,967 and she never mentioned anything. 741 00:34:17,055 --> 00:34:19,022 So, flags were going up all over the place. 742 00:34:19,124 --> 00:34:21,191 And then she disappeared. 743 00:34:23,295 --> 00:34:24,772 Now, when Holmes was approached about it, 744 00:34:24,796 --> 00:34:26,830 he said that she got married in Minnesota. 745 00:34:26,932 --> 00:34:29,833 At another point he said she got married in Michigan. 746 00:34:29,935 --> 00:34:33,103 And then his story kept changing. 747 00:34:33,205 --> 00:34:35,939 It wasn't until the actual investigation started that 748 00:34:36,041 --> 00:34:38,608 someone who worked at the castle mentioned that 749 00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:42,312 on December 7th they remember Holmes asking 750 00:34:43,348 --> 00:34:47,517 men to help him carry a very heavy trunk out of the castle. 751 00:34:49,955 --> 00:34:52,555 And where it went they weren't sure. 752 00:34:52,658 --> 00:34:54,357 Where did they end up? 753 00:34:54,459 --> 00:34:58,128 Well, that's when it gets really interesting. 754 00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:59,629 William Green and Company. 755 00:34:59,731 --> 00:35:02,832 They were a warehouse facility in the business of storing 756 00:35:02,935 --> 00:35:05,468 and supposedly selling cement. 757 00:35:05,570 --> 00:35:07,370 The funny thing is that they were buying a lot 758 00:35:07,472 --> 00:35:09,572 of cement but they never sold any. 759 00:35:09,675 --> 00:35:11,808 And check out the location of the factory. 760 00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:13,843 The warehouse is located on North Water St. 761 00:35:13,946 --> 00:35:18,581 1600 feet east of St. Clair Street and running to the river. 762 00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:20,929 It kind of made the hair stand up on my neck when I first 763 00:35:20,953 --> 00:35:23,253 saw where the warehouse was. 764 00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:26,935 If you're serial killer and you're trying to get rid 765 00:35:26,959 --> 00:35:30,760 of bodies, and you want to do it less conspicuously 766 00:35:30,862 --> 00:35:32,729 then let's say burning them up in a furnace 767 00:35:32,831 --> 00:35:35,332 in the murder Castle, it'd be much easier to dispose 768 00:35:35,434 --> 00:35:36,599 of bodies by... 769 00:35:38,337 --> 00:35:41,237 Incasing them in cement very easily and dropping 770 00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:43,473 them in the Chicago river 771 00:35:50,048 --> 00:35:52,749 Holmes was tied to this business that had a warehouse 772 00:35:52,851 --> 00:35:56,086 along the Chicago River filled with cement. 773 00:35:56,188 --> 00:35:57,587 On the hunt to prove HH Holmes 774 00:35:57,689 --> 00:36:00,357 is Jack the Ripper, a tip from Ray Johnson has opened up 775 00:36:00,459 --> 00:36:02,692 a new lead that could produce the physical evidence 776 00:36:02,794 --> 00:36:05,929 Jeff and Amaryllis are looking for. 777 00:36:06,031 --> 00:36:07,831 They've arranged a meeting with an underwater 778 00:36:07,933 --> 00:36:10,500 reconnaissance team to uncover whether Holmes' cement 779 00:36:10,602 --> 00:36:13,603 warehouse on the Chicago River may have been a front 780 00:36:13,705 --> 00:36:15,772 to conceal it's true purpose. 781 00:36:15,874 --> 00:36:17,607 Body disposal. 782 00:36:17,709 --> 00:36:20,443 The area where the warehouse was located 783 00:36:20,546 --> 00:36:23,647 was on the north side of Chicago River just west 784 00:36:23,749 --> 00:36:25,115 of the mouth. 785 00:36:25,217 --> 00:36:27,450 What type of area was it? 786 00:36:27,553 --> 00:36:31,788 In the late 1890s, that was all factories and this was all 787 00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:33,323 heavy industrial stuff. 788 00:36:33,425 --> 00:36:35,659 Now it is obviously not. 789 00:36:35,761 --> 00:36:38,495 It's highend hotels, residences. 790 00:36:39,431 --> 00:36:42,232 Totally changed from that period. 791 00:36:42,334 --> 00:36:45,635 Plus, the River itself has changed. 792 00:36:45,737 --> 00:36:47,037 How do you mean? 793 00:36:47,139 --> 00:36:51,041 Well, In 1892 they reversed the flow of the River. 794 00:36:52,444 --> 00:36:55,078 While Chicago's industry booms in the 1870s 795 00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:58,315 and 80s, the drinking water the city relies on is being 796 00:36:58,417 --> 00:37:01,685 contaminated by sewage and commercial waste. 797 00:37:01,787 --> 00:37:05,755 In 1885, a heavy rainstorm flushes the polluted water into 798 00:37:05,857 --> 00:37:09,192 the lake starting an epidemic of waterborne diseases 799 00:37:09,294 --> 00:37:12,896 that kills nearly 12% of Chicago's population. 800 00:37:12,998 --> 00:37:16,032 The city begins a massive project to keep its water safe 801 00:37:16,134 --> 00:37:19,402 by reversing the flow of the Chicago River. 802 00:37:19,504 --> 00:37:22,606 It is regarded as one of the greatest engineering feats 803 00:37:22,708 --> 00:37:24,608 of the 19th century. 804 00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:27,077 The Army Corp of engineers dredged the River 15 feet 805 00:37:27,179 --> 00:37:29,346 deeper and it took them about seven years. 806 00:37:29,448 --> 00:37:30,680 When they dredged the River, 807 00:37:30,782 --> 00:37:32,415 they dredged the entire river. 808 00:37:32,517 --> 00:37:34,262 Including the portion that we are talking about now? 809 00:37:34,286 --> 00:37:38,088 Including the portion we are talking about. 810 00:37:38,190 --> 00:37:39,190 But, 811 00:37:40,325 --> 00:37:42,192 Chicago River's a little bit unique. 812 00:37:42,294 --> 00:37:45,729 Unlike many rivers that have a fair amount of flow, 813 00:37:45,831 --> 00:37:47,564 Chicago River doesn't. 814 00:37:47,666 --> 00:37:49,799 Everything kind of just sits there. 815 00:37:49,901 --> 00:37:52,902 So, we have a better chance with this river, 816 00:37:53,005 --> 00:37:54,404 it's worth taking a look. 817 00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:55,405 That is encouraging. 818 00:37:55,507 --> 00:37:57,073 It sounds like a higher likelihood 819 00:37:57,175 --> 00:38:00,110 in this River that in most that something would remain there 820 00:38:00,212 --> 00:38:01,252 for a long period of time. 821 00:38:01,346 --> 00:38:03,647 I would guess that, yeah. 822 00:38:05,584 --> 00:38:08,118 What do you say we go take a look at the site? 823 00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:10,420 Sounds like a plan. 824 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,893 If we were standing here in the 1890s, 825 00:38:16,995 --> 00:38:18,728 what would we be looking at? 826 00:38:18,830 --> 00:38:20,808 If you look at that little atrium that kind of splits 827 00:38:20,832 --> 00:38:23,600 the two Towers, that is kind of dead center where 828 00:38:23,702 --> 00:38:25,235 the warehouse was. 829 00:38:25,337 --> 00:38:27,015 So, how would we go about searching the bottom 830 00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:28,138 of the river. 831 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:29,639 We've got an ROV. 832 00:38:29,708 --> 00:38:32,075 A remote operated vehicle that we'll put in the water, 833 00:38:32,177 --> 00:38:35,912 put the boat against the Riverwalk here 834 00:38:36,014 --> 00:38:39,349 and work a kind of a grid pattern search. 835 00:38:40,352 --> 00:38:42,152 What would we be looking for? 836 00:38:42,254 --> 00:38:45,488 What I've seen in the past, for example in going to get 837 00:38:45,590 --> 00:38:50,427 cannonballs out of some of the sites off of Canada, 838 00:38:50,529 --> 00:38:53,263 you actually find holes in the muck... 839 00:38:53,365 --> 00:38:54,365 Really. 840 00:38:54,466 --> 00:38:55,543 Where the cannonballs went in. 841 00:38:55,567 --> 00:38:57,078 Wow, like a depression in the bottom. 842 00:38:57,102 --> 00:38:58,268 Exactly. 843 00:38:58,403 --> 00:39:01,671 That hole will stay there for years. 844 00:39:01,773 --> 00:39:04,174 That's kind of what I am going to be looking for, 845 00:39:04,276 --> 00:39:08,178 do we have these craters which is an indication 846 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,014 that something has been tossed in there. 847 00:39:11,116 --> 00:39:12,694 OK, so let's meet back up in the morning 848 00:39:12,718 --> 00:39:14,250 and scan this river. 849 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,826 Consider this. 850 00:39:22,928 --> 00:39:26,229 We are on the verge of using this submersible robot 851 00:39:26,331 --> 00:39:29,332 to attempt to investigate HH Holmes connection 852 00:39:29,434 --> 00:39:31,334 with Jack the Ripper. 853 00:39:31,436 --> 00:39:34,404 We've got a chance of finding bodies encased in cement 854 00:39:34,506 --> 00:39:36,740 at the bottom of this river floor. 855 00:39:36,842 --> 00:39:38,675 What we don't know is what to expect. 856 00:39:38,777 --> 00:39:41,077 These could be humansized cement coffins, 857 00:39:41,179 --> 00:39:42,846 or they could be smaller chunks of cement 858 00:39:42,948 --> 00:39:44,647 that contain body parts. 859 00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:48,918 Either way, they could be time capsules of evidence. 860 00:39:57,662 --> 00:39:59,162 He's in. 861 00:40:01,767 --> 00:40:04,267 Adam, let out some cable. 862 00:40:04,369 --> 00:40:08,371 We're going to run it a little bit further east. 863 00:40:17,516 --> 00:40:19,849 Go ahead and bring her down. 864 00:40:29,227 --> 00:40:31,094 What exactly are we looking at here? 865 00:40:31,196 --> 00:40:35,365 Probably anywhere from three to six feet of silt. 866 00:40:43,475 --> 00:40:45,208 Here we go, there we go. 867 00:40:45,310 --> 00:40:47,811 Can we hold it right in there? 868 00:40:50,682 --> 00:40:52,282 Wow. 869 00:40:52,384 --> 00:40:53,384 Go up a little bit. 870 00:40:53,418 --> 00:40:55,752 Just a little bit, OK. 871 00:40:55,854 --> 00:40:57,787 You see these little bumps here? 872 00:40:57,889 --> 00:40:59,556 Whoa, there are so many of them. 873 00:40:59,658 --> 00:41:03,226 This is an indication that things have been dumped here. 874 00:41:07,499 --> 00:41:09,899 Next time on American Ripper. 875 00:41:10,001 --> 00:41:13,069 What could have been a more perfect place on Earth 876 00:41:13,171 --> 00:41:16,239 for a killer of his nature than something like this. 877 00:41:16,341 --> 00:41:18,074 Two miles from his hotel. 878 00:41:18,176 --> 00:41:20,410 There was a number of things I found about women 879 00:41:20,512 --> 00:41:21,744 with their throats cut. 880 00:41:21,847 --> 00:41:23,847 My great, great aunt took a trip to Chicago 881 00:41:23,949 --> 00:41:25,815 and was never heard from again. 882 00:41:25,917 --> 00:41:28,251 I wonder how many unknown women were found 883 00:41:28,353 --> 00:41:31,421 with Ripperesque type of murders in Chicago. 884 00:41:31,523 --> 00:41:32,322 That's interesting. 885 00:41:32,424 --> 00:41:33,957 Unknown woman, unknown woman. 886 00:41:34,059 --> 00:41:35,692 Throat cut from ear to ear. 887 00:41:35,794 --> 00:41:38,261 We have some results that are regressing. 888 00:41:38,363 --> 00:41:40,163 A picture's worth a thousand words. 889 00:41:40,265 --> 00:41:43,600 How can you best preserve a body for 100 years? 890 00:41:43,702 --> 00:41:45,502 Encase it in concrete? 891 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,940 So, we're talking about a forensic time capsule. 892 00:41:51,042 --> 00:41:52,042 Yea. 70770

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