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In 1888, Britain's
first serial killer,
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Jack the Ripper went on a
killing spree in London.
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He was never caught.
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But I know who the Ripper is.
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His real name is HH Holmes.
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And he was America's
first serial killer.
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And he is my great,
great grandfather.
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Previously on American Ripper.
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This is the place
that evil man built
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that factory of death.
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If we want physical
evidence to link.
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Ripper and Holmes, there is
a strong chance that it is
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underneath that lot.
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This is a famous dear
boss letter that is
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the first letter to be
signed Jack the Ripper.
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The language certainly
looks American.
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The Ripper butchered Mary Kelly
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to the point that she
could have in theory been
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an animal carcass.
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Today, there is
amazing cutting edge
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technology that can create
a composite photograph
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from eyewitness accounts of what
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Jack the Ripper looked like.
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If you took this
composite to a judge,
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he'd issue a warrant.
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Wow.
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This is pretty compelling to me.
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You've got Jack on the left,
you've got Holmes on the right.
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People have been
telling me for years
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that my theory is crazy.
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At times I even began
to doubt myself but now
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I can look into the eyes
of Britain's most notorious
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serial killer and
staring back at me
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is a very familiar face.
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He is obviously 27
years old here, okay,
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if he was in London in 1888.
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The photo here's a police photo
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after his arrest and he
would've been 32 or 33.
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I know that we still
have work to do
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to prove this beyond a
reasonable doubt
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but for the moment,
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I feel vindicated.
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We now have
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an image of a potential suspect.
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We might be talking
about Jack the Ripper.
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HH Holmes.
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How foolproof are
these comparisons
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in your experience?
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The more eyewitness
accounts that you have,
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with the more details involved
the better and better result.
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I am really confident
about how accurate it is.
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We've been able to track
down in the press 13
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eyewitness reports of those
who claim that they've seen
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Jack the Ripper.
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That's an unusually high number.
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It's still not a smoking gun,
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but that composite picture
looks a lot like HH Holmes.
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From what we have learned,
I've been surprised
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that my major objections
are beginning to melt away.
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There is not as dramatic a
difference between these two
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killers as I had thought.
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We know the Ripper
could have been a doctor
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just like Holmes.
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Both killer seem to have
enjoyed the act of dissection
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after they killed their victims.
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Yeah and the
conclusions the linguists
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had with the dear boss
letter was written,
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in their opinion,
by an American.
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Yeah, like most investigators,
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when I came here, I
thought Jack the Ripper
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was the quintessential
disorganized killer.
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But as we've heard about his
ability to time the routes
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of law enforcement, and
how his methods evolved
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with each kill, almost like
he's perfecting a process.
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I am beginning to think that
maybe he was of a higher IQ,
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more kind of organized,
just like HH Holmes.
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With an escalation this
dramatic and this quick.
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I would expect to see
the killing continue.
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But the Ripper murders
just stop and we've seen.
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Holmes's name, an alias,
show up in ship manifest
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from London to America after
the Whitechapel killings.
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I would say that
this is the first
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milestone where I am truly
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intrigued by your theory.
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We still have more
investigating to do.
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I want to continue subjecting
letters and artifacts
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to forensic analysis to see
if we can find more links
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between Holmes and the Ripper.
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But what we are still
missing is physical evidence
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from the crime scenes.
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We know no murder
weapon was ever
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recovered here in London.
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So, if Holmes was the Ripper,
whatever physical evidence
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remains may have traveled with
him back across the ocean.
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Well, it appears that
the trail leads back
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to the States.
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Guess we're on our way home.
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After everything
we learned in London,
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I'm even more anxious to
excavate under the post office
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where the murder castle stood.
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You and me both.
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If we're going to find physical
evidence two tie Holmes
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to Ripper, that is
where it's going to be.
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So, what's the status on that?
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Have you heard anything?
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Yeah, my colleague
gave me the name
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of someone at the post
office we can talk
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to about getting access.
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I think that as Holmes'
great, great grandson,
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you should try to set
up a meeting with him.
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And in the meantime, we
should pick up Holmes' trail
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where we left off.
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If a gap in his timeline
reflects when he was in London,
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we should be able to
pick his timeline back up
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when he returns to Chicago
in the spring of 1889.
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Great.
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Our Chicago investigation
into Holmes' paper trail
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revealed a gap in
his whereabouts at
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as the Ripper murders.
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The evidence we found in
London supports the theory
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that Holmes was there when the.
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Ripper killings were occurring.
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But to truly connect
the two killers,
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we need to look for any
traces of the Ripper
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and what Holmes did next.
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In Chicago
in the spring of 1889,
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HH Holmes hires construction
crews to convert his property
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on 63rd and Wallace
into what we now know
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as the Murder Castle.
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His sinister intent was
to build a place to kill
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and dissect his
victims in private.
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His intentions for this
building were definitely
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for murder and disposing
of human remains.
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To find answers
about physical evidence
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that might still be
buried at the site,
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Jeff and Amaryllis meet
with a documentarian
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and historian who is an
expert on the Castle.
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He had ideally
constructed this building
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not only for murder and the
disposal of human bodies
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but for him to enact
his pleasure in privacy
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with these victims.
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That's an interesting
point to me because
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we are just back from
London and there,
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we were looking at the
Whitechapel murders
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and the fifth Jack the
Ripper victim
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is so much more
mutilated because
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the fifth victim, Mary
Kelly is the only victim
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that was killed in private.
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I have to wonder if this
was kind of a killer
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in his adolescence who
is developing his taste
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and his desires and if
you take that to its
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logical conclusion
as an industrious,
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entrepreneurial psychopath,
creating your own hotel full
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of such private rooms would
be an interesting next step.
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We've learned that the
1895 police investigation
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of the Murder Castle
wasn't at all thorough.
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So, it's possible the police
missed critical evidence
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that could connect Holmes
to Jack the Ripper.
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And that evidence might still
be buried underground today.
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It's straight out of the mind
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of Edgar Allen Poe
when you look at this.
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It is definitely not out
of Architectural Digest.
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On the first floor, there
were shops and there was
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a jewelry store, a drug
store on the corner
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and a blacksmith's shop.
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When you go up on the second
floor there were many rooms,
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purposely built to disorient
people and maybe victims
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that got away from him.
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For instance, you walk into
this room which has five doors.
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You would open the door
and it is a brick wall.
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And when he was constructing
the building he would
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repeatedly hire and
fire construction crews
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so no one knew the full layout.
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Wow.
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If you go up to the third floor
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that is where Holmes had
rented rooms and these rooms
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these rooms were
lined with asbestos
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to make them sound proof.
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Well, why, because he had gas
lines coming from his office
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which he could gas
people in their sleep.
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It was an odorless, colorless
gas that would slowly
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shut down the victim's
central nervous system.
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This was perfect way to
kill an unsuspecting guest
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with no struggle and
without alerting any
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of the other residents
of the castle.
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Essentially, turning
his office into
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a command center of death.
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Was there ever any
evidence of a murder
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being committed in the building?
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No, and that is
how much of an evil
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criminal genius Holmes was.
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He knew how to
cover up everything.
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He had this hidden chute
running from the roof
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to the basement for a
way of quickly disposing
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of the bodies.
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The basement was the
most frightening place
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in the whole building.
Because they found
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quicklime vats down there.
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Holmes may have used these in
conjunction with acid baths
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to dissolve human
flesh and as a chemist
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he would have realized
that a lesser known use
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for quicklime is
to prevent odor.
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This would have been
extremely important if Holmes
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was hoarding body parts in
the Murder Castle basement.
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And supposedly he did
have this crematorium
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that he said was for glass
bending but it was about
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the size of the human body.
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Hearing that the Murder Castle
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was specifically designed
not just to kill but also
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to destroy evidence is
really discouraging.
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Because evidence is exactly
what we need to definitely
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prove Jeff's theory.
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The good news is if we can
get access to that lawn,
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modern equipment is so advanced
that it may find traces
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of the murders that
Holmes didn't know
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he was leaving behind.
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Where did these bodies
go, were they burned?
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Were they sold as skeletons?
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Were they buried somewhere?
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They are gone, though,
those people disappeared.
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This is the
industrialization of murder.
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This is the Henry Ford model
of killing human beings.
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You check them in and you
send them to the basement
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and who knows what becomes
of their remains after that.
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The swindler
and criminal mastermind known
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as HH Holmes is rumored
to have murdered hundreds
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of people inside his
three story murder castle.
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Now, his great, great grandson,
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Jeff Mudgett and ex CIA
operative Amaryllis Fox
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are chasing down leads to
determine if any evidence
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connected to Jack the
Ripper might still be buried
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on the castle grounds.
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The idea of being
able to actually analyze
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fresh physical evidence that
hasn't been contaminated
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becomes incredibly intriguing.
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If properly excavated
there is the potential
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for history changing evidence.
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HH Holmes may have slaughtered
hundreds of victims
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in the Murder Castle which
was torn down in the 1930s.
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The government later built
a post office on the plot
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and part of the Murder Castle
basement would have lined up
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exactly with the post
office front lawn.
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Given that we are
talking about the end
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of the 19th century, it seems
unlikely that a home furnace
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could fully destroy a human
body and if that's the case,
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we're looking at a
potential treasure trove
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of physical evidence
and body parts.
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So I'd like to go check out
what furnaces at the time
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were capable of and
get a sense of whether
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it's reasonable that
there might actually
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be human remains
under that lawn.
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I'm looking
forward to pleading my case
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at the post office.
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Because the Murder Castle
used to stand on grounds
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now owned by the Post Office,
there's more than the usual
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amount of legal
hurdles to overcome
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before they'll let us dig there.
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Finally meeting with someone
with the legal authority
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to make this happen
is a huge step.
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Wow, the heat is
really overwhelming
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when you stand near it.
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While Jeff meets
with post office officials
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to secure permission to
excavate the Murder Castle site,
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Amaryllis visits a local
crematory to investigate
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whether any human remains
could have survived.
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Our cremation units
go to 1600 dgrees
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and a normal human body
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takes about two
hours to cremate.
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Newspaper accounts
describe the murder castle's
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furnace as large enough to
accommodate a human body.
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We brought some bone
and muscle and flesh
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from a pig and so I was hoping
that we could see whether
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the remains could be entirely
burned up or whether something
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is left over.
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Alright.
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Scientists
often substitute pig bones
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for human bones in forensic
research because of their
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similar structure
and bone density.
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Both have comparable
rates of decomposition
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and reactions to
stressors, such as heat.
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Wow, look at that.
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Just stand away for a minute.
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It's different from how
I expected them to look.
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You're still left with very
recognizable human bones
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as the remains.
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I mean this wasn't an efficient
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or successful way of
getting rid of a body.
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No.
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00:14:08,548 --> 00:14:09,826
I'd be very surprised
if he could have got
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a wood burning stove
up to 1600 degrees,
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and then held it
consistently for an hour.
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That would have
been a lot of wood.
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You'd have to use a lot
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of wood you had.
That's a lot of wood.
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He just couldn't put the
body and throw some wood
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on it and leave.
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00:14:25,599 --> 00:14:28,533
So, is the exhaust that
comes from the burning
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of human remains, does it
have a certain odor that
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in a residential environment
would be noticeable?
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If it didn't have the
equipment that we have today,
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00:14:37,477 --> 00:14:38,510
it certainly would.
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It's a very pungent odor.
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Well, this is
tremendously helpful to me,
304
00:14:42,883 --> 00:14:44,983
because it's actually
a very different result
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00:14:45,085 --> 00:14:47,052
from what we would
have expected.
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00:14:47,154 --> 00:14:48,598
The fact that it would
be incredibly difficult
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00:14:48,622 --> 00:14:50,855
to dispose of human
bones by burning them,
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00:14:50,958 --> 00:14:53,024
convinces me that an
excavation might allow us
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to find the physical
evidence we need.
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If this was the disposal
process he was trying
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to use, that there would
be fragments remaining.
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Jeff, how did it go?
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I think it went well.
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We should have an answer
in the next few days.
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That is great news because
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00:15:15,082 --> 00:15:17,449
given what I've learned about
19th century furnaces today,
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we are definitely going to find
evidence under that ground.
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00:15:20,487 --> 00:15:23,021
Great, see you soon.
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00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:29,427
What I'd really like now
that we're back is to begin
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00:15:29,529 --> 00:15:32,931
to build out Holmes'
timeline starting in 1889.
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00:15:33,033 --> 00:15:34,232
Alright.
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00:15:34,334 --> 00:15:35,611
Some speculate
the castle claimed
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00:15:35,635 --> 00:15:37,936
as many as 200
lives, but its true
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00:15:38,038 --> 00:15:40,538
body count remains unverified.
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00:15:41,508 --> 00:15:43,008
This was boomtown Chicago.
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He saw it as a
chance to make money.
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00:15:45,512 --> 00:15:46,592
Jeff and Amaryllis connect
328
00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,514
with Chicago
historian, Adam Selzer,
329
00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:54,386
to look for clues hidden in
the trail of Holmes' many cons.
330
00:15:54,488 --> 00:15:56,421
Holmes was up to
any number of scams.
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00:15:56,523 --> 00:15:57,533
All these furniture companies,
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00:15:57,557 --> 00:15:59,124
all these insurance companies.
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00:15:59,226 --> 00:16:02,193
We've got the ABC Copier company
that he was borrowing money
334
00:16:02,295 --> 00:16:04,295
on and never
actually paying back.
335
00:16:04,398 --> 00:16:06,364
So, this was a
legitimate company?
336
00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:08,146
It was more or less
a legitimate company,
337
00:16:08,235 --> 00:16:11,102
he just didn't
legitimately own it.
338
00:16:12,739 --> 00:16:15,040
They did this over
and over again,
339
00:16:15,142 --> 00:16:17,876
buying things on credit and
then never paying for it.
340
00:16:17,978 --> 00:16:21,212
I found at least 60 lawsuits
in Chicago alone that this guy
341
00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:23,014
ended up in.
342
00:16:23,116 --> 00:16:24,916
This one is about
buying barber shop goods
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00:16:25,018 --> 00:16:28,520
to outfit the place which he
also never actually paid back.
344
00:16:28,622 --> 00:16:30,833
Then he was selling this and
he said it was mineral water
345
00:16:30,857 --> 00:16:33,224
that he got out of an
artesian well in the basement.
346
00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:35,293
It is regular tap water.
347
00:16:36,229 --> 00:16:39,097
The real amazing
story bout Holmes is not
348
00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:42,434
the serial killer aspect,
it's the con, it's the fraud.
349
00:16:42,536 --> 00:16:46,137
It's the man who manipulated
everyone in his life.
350
00:16:46,239 --> 00:16:48,217
They were calling him things
like the King of Criminals
351
00:16:48,241 --> 00:16:50,108
and the arch fiend of the
century before they
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00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:52,410
suspected him of
a single murder.
353
00:16:53,647 --> 00:16:57,482
When does he go from being
a skilled legal trickster
354
00:16:57,584 --> 00:17:00,718
and scam artist to
taking human life?
355
00:17:01,755 --> 00:17:03,075
Well, the Conners were the first
356
00:17:03,156 --> 00:17:04,700
of the allegedly murders
that could have taken place
357
00:17:04,724 --> 00:17:06,224
in the castle.
358
00:17:06,326 --> 00:17:08,393
That would be Julia
and Pearl Conner.
359
00:17:08,495 --> 00:17:09,661
Pearl's the daughter?
360
00:17:09,763 --> 00:17:10,907
Pearl is the daughter, yes.
361
00:17:10,931 --> 00:17:12,597
Julia and her husband had come
362
00:17:12,699 --> 00:17:15,567
to live in the castle building.
Her husband Ned was working
363
00:17:15,669 --> 00:17:16,835
in the jewelry department.
364
00:17:16,937 --> 00:17:18,236
She ended up keeping the books
365
00:17:18,338 --> 00:17:20,305
and also having an
affair with Holmes.
366
00:17:20,407 --> 00:17:21,573
Wow.
367
00:17:21,675 --> 00:17:23,152
Where was the husband,
was the affair going on
368
00:17:23,176 --> 00:17:24,309
right under his nose?
369
00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:27,178
For a little while,
yeah, but then he left.
370
00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,481
So Adam, why did
he kill the Conners?
371
00:17:29,583 --> 00:17:32,283
Most likely it was because
she just knew too much.
372
00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:34,752
She was keeping the books at
the Murder Castle, and Holmes
373
00:17:34,855 --> 00:17:36,365
was up to any number of
scams that she might have
374
00:17:36,389 --> 00:17:37,989
found out about.
375
00:17:38,091 --> 00:17:42,260
Julia and Pearl then disappeared
around Christmas of 1891.
376
00:17:44,064 --> 00:17:45,430
Pearl looks quite young here.
377
00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:47,510
She would have been about
six when she disappeared.
378
00:17:47,534 --> 00:17:48,867
Wow.
379
00:17:48,969 --> 00:17:50,635
What did Holmes say
happened to them?
380
00:17:50,737 --> 00:17:52,804
Holmes was fairly consistent
in saying that Julia
381
00:17:52,906 --> 00:17:54,572
died in an abortion.
382
00:17:59,713 --> 00:18:02,881
Then he had to get
rid of the kid too.
383
00:18:02,983 --> 00:18:04,943
Most likely he would have
put Julia and Pearl down
384
00:18:04,985 --> 00:18:06,551
with the chloroform
and then just going
385
00:18:06,653 --> 00:18:08,319
with the chloroform.
386
00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:11,156
Now, when they were
digging up the castle
387
00:18:11,258 --> 00:18:13,158
a few years later, they
started finding bones
388
00:18:13,260 --> 00:18:15,827
that appeared to a
six year old child.
389
00:18:15,929 --> 00:18:17,228
No kidding.
390
00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:18,741
If the police at
the time found bones
391
00:18:18,765 --> 00:18:20,899
in the murder castle basement,
it supports the theory
392
00:18:21,001 --> 00:18:23,168
that the furnace couldn't
get hot enough to process
393
00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:24,502
all these bodies.
394
00:18:24,604 --> 00:18:26,249
He must have had to dispose
of them in a variety
395
00:18:26,273 --> 00:18:28,873
of different ways,
including burial.
396
00:18:28,975 --> 00:18:31,342
So if Pearl's body
was buried underground,
397
00:18:31,444 --> 00:18:32,877
what did he do with Julia?
398
00:18:32,979 --> 00:18:35,813
While the police were
digging up the castle in 1895,
399
00:18:35,916 --> 00:18:37,982
they brought in this
supposedly witnessed,
400
00:18:38,084 --> 00:18:41,152
they called him the
machinist or a bone rigger?
401
00:18:41,254 --> 00:18:43,721
He bought several dead
bodies from HH Holmes to turn
402
00:18:43,823 --> 00:18:46,991
into skeletons which could then
be sold to medical schools.
403
00:18:47,093 --> 00:18:49,360
And one of
those we think was Julia?
404
00:18:49,462 --> 00:18:51,062
Presumably, yeah.
405
00:18:52,766 --> 00:18:54,911
In one of the descriptions
he says the body looked like
406
00:18:54,935 --> 00:18:58,236
that of a jackrabbit which
is been skinned by splitting
407
00:18:58,338 --> 00:19:00,505
the skin down the base
and rolling it back off
408
00:19:00,607 --> 00:19:01,906
the entire body.
409
00:19:03,443 --> 00:19:04,676
Wow.
410
00:19:04,778 --> 00:19:08,613
That's not the Holmes I
had been imagining at all.
411
00:19:08,715 --> 00:19:12,884
Jeff, that's similar to what
we have seen with Mary Kelly,
412
00:19:13,853 --> 00:19:16,554
the fifth Jack
the Ripper victim.
413
00:19:20,093 --> 00:19:23,328
(Heme)
414
00:19:24,264 --> 00:19:25,909
This body looked like
that of a jackrabbit
415
00:19:25,933 --> 00:19:28,033
that had been skinned.
416
00:19:28,135 --> 00:19:29,495
Investigating
the gruesome deaths
417
00:19:29,570 --> 00:19:31,970
that occurred in HH
Holmes' Murder Castle,
418
00:19:32,072 --> 00:19:35,040
Jeff and Amaryllis unearth
an unexpected link.
419
00:19:35,142 --> 00:19:38,476
That sounds more Jack
the Ripper like to me.
420
00:19:38,579 --> 00:19:40,712
An original eye witness report,
421
00:19:40,814 --> 00:19:43,148
offering a rare glimpse
into the bloody aftermath
422
00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:44,382
of Holmes' deeds,
423
00:19:44,484 --> 00:19:49,154
and its similarity to the
Ripper killings.
424
00:19:49,256 --> 00:19:53,458
Hearing of a body laid
horizontal and the skin removed
425
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,528
and flayed open like a
jackrabbit is pretty striking.
426
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:59,464
Jack the Ripper's victims
were all cut open along
427
00:19:59,566 --> 00:20:03,702
the abdomen and splayed in
that exact same fashion.
428
00:20:03,804 --> 00:20:06,237
This makes me wonder if Holmes
could have been conducting
429
00:20:06,340 --> 00:20:09,574
the same kind of savage
killings as Jack but because
430
00:20:09,676 --> 00:20:11,509
it was in his own hotel,
in his own castle,
431
00:20:11,612 --> 00:20:13,056
it was never really
known to the public.
432
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,379
Yeah.
433
00:20:14,481 --> 00:20:16,492
Especially when you consider
Holmes in the basement.
434
00:20:16,516 --> 00:20:19,017
He had complete privacy there.
435
00:20:21,855 --> 00:20:23,099
What I really want
to get my hands on
436
00:20:23,123 --> 00:20:24,522
is more physical evidence.
437
00:20:24,625 --> 00:20:27,892
And for that we really need
sites where we know that
438
00:20:27,995 --> 00:20:29,227
Holmes was active.
439
00:20:29,329 --> 00:20:31,563
He was active all
over the country,
440
00:20:31,665 --> 00:20:34,265
he had some scams going
in St. Louis for a while,
441
00:20:34,368 --> 00:20:38,203
several months in Fort
Worth, Philadelphia.
442
00:20:38,305 --> 00:20:40,739
He went to New
York several times,
443
00:20:40,841 --> 00:20:43,108
stayed at the Aster
House, very fancy.
444
00:20:43,210 --> 00:20:44,609
Right around 1893.
445
00:20:44,711 --> 00:20:47,979
There was a woman named Mae
Barretts who apparently met.
446
00:20:48,081 --> 00:20:52,250
HH Holmes, went to work for him
in New York and disappeared.
447
00:20:53,654 --> 00:20:56,054
Well that's interesting.
448
00:20:56,156 --> 00:20:58,123
We've been hearing story
after story of victims
449
00:20:58,225 --> 00:21:00,525
of Holmes disappearing
in the murder castle.
450
00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:02,587
But knowing that an employee
of Holmes disappeared
451
00:21:02,663 --> 00:21:05,196
in New York is an
interesting lead.
452
00:21:05,298 --> 00:21:06,709
This may mean that
there are more victims
453
00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:08,900
than we originally
thought and potentially
454
00:21:09,002 --> 00:21:10,802
more crime scenes.
455
00:21:10,904 --> 00:21:13,371
He covered his tracks really
well when he was in New York.
456
00:21:13,473 --> 00:21:15,118
Most of the time he was
traveling around I have
457
00:21:15,142 --> 00:21:17,208
a pretty good idea what
he was doing in the city.
458
00:21:17,310 --> 00:21:19,577
New York is total
mystery every time.
459
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,640
There is documentation
that he took multiple trips
460
00:21:21,715 --> 00:21:23,982
between 1889 and 1894.
461
00:21:24,084 --> 00:21:26,618
One interesting gap for
me is towards the middle
462
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,386
of spring of 1891.
463
00:21:28,488 --> 00:21:31,289
There is not much data for him
for a couple of weeks there.
464
00:21:31,391 --> 00:21:33,391
Holmes being unaccounted
for in New York
465
00:21:33,493 --> 00:21:35,894
is an interesting thread for me.
466
00:21:35,996 --> 00:21:37,896
I'd like to do some
more research on crimes
467
00:21:37,998 --> 00:21:41,733
that were occurring there
that might have a similar MO.
468
00:21:49,209 --> 00:21:51,576
Looking through media
clippings and newspaper reports
469
00:21:51,678 --> 00:21:53,389
is our best bet to see the
if there's any evidence
470
00:21:53,413 --> 00:21:55,346
of similar crimes in New York.
471
00:21:55,449 --> 00:21:57,248
At the Evanston Public Library,
472
00:21:57,350 --> 00:22:00,185
Jeff and Amaryllis access
a database of local media
473
00:22:00,287 --> 00:22:03,254
and police reports from
the spring of 1891.
474
00:22:03,356 --> 00:22:05,123
They're searching for
any unsolved murders
475
00:22:05,225 --> 00:22:08,560
in New York City that could
be the work of HH Holmes.
476
00:22:08,662 --> 00:22:12,831
This is the first of the
results I found for New York.
477
00:22:13,767 --> 00:22:15,333
Killed and Boiled her.
478
00:22:15,435 --> 00:22:17,035
This is the slaughter
of a little girl.
479
00:22:17,137 --> 00:22:21,339
Holmes had interesting means
of disposing of his victims,
480
00:22:21,441 --> 00:22:24,342
though the MO seems
a little off to me.
481
00:22:24,444 --> 00:22:27,445
This is a multi
victim murder spree.
482
00:22:28,949 --> 00:22:31,182
That's not really
Holmes' style either.
483
00:22:31,284 --> 00:22:35,320
Holmes was a sophisticated,
premeditative killer,
484
00:22:35,422 --> 00:22:37,222
who mutilated his victims.
485
00:22:37,324 --> 00:22:39,624
So we're looking for
privately executed killings
486
00:22:39,726 --> 00:22:43,495
where the body appears
to have been dissected.
487
00:22:43,597 --> 00:22:44,597
No link there.
488
00:22:44,631 --> 00:22:45,631
I agree.
489
00:22:46,967 --> 00:22:48,444
That string of
murders was in fact, solved.
490
00:22:48,468 --> 00:22:50,168
So we can eliminate
that from our list.
491
00:22:50,270 --> 00:22:51,270
That wasn't Holmes.
492
00:22:51,338 --> 00:22:53,304
Yeah, this one's interesting.
493
00:22:53,406 --> 00:22:55,740
Choked then mutilated,
494
00:22:55,842 --> 00:22:58,843
body horribly slashed
and disemboweled.
495
00:22:58,945 --> 00:23:02,547
That really does sound more
like Holmes' killing style.
496
00:23:02,649 --> 00:23:06,351
This is 1891, so it's
an appropriate time period
497
00:23:06,453 --> 00:23:07,852
for Holmes to be in New York.
498
00:23:07,954 --> 00:23:09,921
The murder was committed
on the southeast corner
499
00:23:10,023 --> 00:23:13,658
of Catherine and Water Street,
in the East River Hotel.
500
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,059
Wait a minute.
501
00:23:15,162 --> 00:23:17,006
That's very close to the
Astor House where Holmes liked
502
00:23:17,030 --> 00:23:18,596
to stay when he was
in New York City.
503
00:23:18,698 --> 00:23:19,430
Really?
504
00:23:19,533 --> 00:23:20,331
Yes.
505
00:23:20,433 --> 00:23:22,333
So, her name was Carrie Brown.
506
00:23:22,435 --> 00:23:24,836
The victim was an aged woman.
507
00:23:25,872 --> 00:23:27,539
There were marks
about her throat,
508
00:23:27,641 --> 00:23:30,008
before the mutilations
were performed.
509
00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:33,111
It says on the back
was a mark like an X.
510
00:23:33,213 --> 00:23:35,380
That's the same as the
fourth ripper murder.
511
00:23:35,482 --> 00:23:39,017
Catherine Eddows,
the X on her cheek.
512
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,354
This was evidently
the murderer's sign.
513
00:23:43,456 --> 00:23:45,290
Many of the details
recall the crimes with
514
00:23:45,392 --> 00:23:48,593
which Jack the Ripper
horrified London.
515
00:23:50,664 --> 00:23:53,531
The crime remains unsolved.
516
00:23:53,633 --> 00:23:55,611
This is crazy, the police
at the time really thought
517
00:23:55,635 --> 00:23:59,437
this murder was committed
by Jack the Ripper.
518
00:24:00,907 --> 00:24:04,209
Scotland Yard came over
to New York to follow
519
00:24:04,311 --> 00:24:08,479
that potential lead and Holmes
was in New York at the time.
520
00:24:17,423 --> 00:24:19,423
Choked then mutilated.
521
00:24:19,525 --> 00:24:22,693
That really does sound like
the Jack the Ripper MO.
522
00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:24,161
Souring the
archives for evidence
523
00:24:24,263 --> 00:24:27,164
of a HH Holmes style
killings in New York City,
524
00:24:27,266 --> 00:24:30,034
Jeff and Amaryllis uncover
something unexpected.
525
00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:33,937
An unsolved murder in the
Spring of 1891 that appears
526
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,173
to link to Jack the Ripper.
527
00:24:36,275 --> 00:24:40,611
The crime remains unsolved
and Holmes was in New York
528
00:24:40,713 --> 00:24:41,713
at the time.
529
00:24:42,982 --> 00:24:45,249
It's worth me going and
digging though records
530
00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:47,029
in New York and seeing
whether we can turn up
531
00:24:47,053 --> 00:24:48,385
some more information.
532
00:24:48,487 --> 00:24:50,065
I'm gonna stick around
in Chicago in case there's
533
00:24:50,089 --> 00:24:52,089
an answer on our dig.
534
00:24:52,191 --> 00:24:54,591
I'm gonna give up on
getting the government
535
00:24:54,693 --> 00:24:58,695
to allow us to excavate
the Post Office grounds.
536
00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:05,669
This remains an open.
537
00:25:05,738 --> 00:25:06,804
Yes.
538
00:25:06,906 --> 00:25:09,239
Case on New York Police
Department books.
539
00:25:09,341 --> 00:25:10,341
Yes, right.
540
00:25:10,376 --> 00:25:11,453
Cases are never
closed until we have
541
00:25:11,477 --> 00:25:13,210
the actual perpetrator.
542
00:25:13,312 --> 00:25:14,912
In New York
City, Amaryllis connects
543
00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:18,082
with former NYPD
detective, Ike Illkiw,
544
00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:20,784
an expert on the unsolved
murder of Carrie Brown to get
545
00:25:20,886 --> 00:25:22,820
the facts on the case.
546
00:25:22,922 --> 00:25:26,290
From a detective's mind,
could you walk me through
547
00:25:26,392 --> 00:25:28,592
what happened with Carrie Brown?
548
00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:33,263
We're talking about
April 1891 and Carrie Brown was
549
00:25:33,365 --> 00:25:36,633
a prostitute working
on the East River.
550
00:25:36,735 --> 00:25:38,346
And we know the
Ripper targeted prostitutes
551
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,437
as his victims in White Chapel.
552
00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:43,273
So apparently she had picked
up a male, brought him up
553
00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:46,577
to room 31, at what was
then the East River Hotel.
554
00:25:49,348 --> 00:25:52,282
She wasn't found until the
next morning when the girl
555
00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:54,429
that was hired to clean the
room went up and there was
556
00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:55,886
no answer to the door.
557
00:25:55,988 --> 00:25:57,054
To the knock.
558
00:25:58,224 --> 00:26:00,457
Does she provide
any witness statement?
559
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,926
All it says is not the
slightest noise was heard
560
00:26:03,028 --> 00:26:05,829
during the night from the
chamber, but in the morning
561
00:26:05,931 --> 00:26:07,075
when a servant
rapped on the door
562
00:26:07,099 --> 00:26:09,099
the summons was unanswered.
563
00:26:09,201 --> 00:26:11,602
With the assistance of the
porter, burst open the door.
564
00:26:11,704 --> 00:26:13,048
The woman was found
in bed, quite dead
565
00:26:13,072 --> 00:26:15,339
and covered with blood.
566
00:26:20,546 --> 00:26:22,846
So, why do people believe
that Carrie Brown might have
567
00:26:22,948 --> 00:26:24,348
been a Ripper victim?
568
00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:27,618
She was disemboweled, her
intestines had been removed.
569
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,219
Is there a coroner's report?
570
00:26:29,321 --> 00:26:30,387
Yeah.
571
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:33,690
Her abdomen had been
ripped open by a dull,
572
00:26:33,792 --> 00:26:36,560
broken table knife which
was found in the room.
573
00:26:36,662 --> 00:26:39,363
Part of the intestines had
been removed and are missing.
574
00:26:39,465 --> 00:26:41,732
So, an organ was removed.
575
00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:43,033
Was her throat slit?
576
00:26:43,135 --> 00:26:44,579
No, it was
strangulation by clothing,
577
00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,303
according to the
coroner's report.
578
00:26:46,405 --> 00:26:49,740
That's interesting
because from what I learned
579
00:26:49,842 --> 00:26:53,577
from investigators in London,
each of the five canonical.
580
00:26:53,679 --> 00:26:57,848
Ripper victims were
killed by strangulation
581
00:26:57,950 --> 00:27:00,050
and, or the cutting
of the throat.
582
00:27:00,152 --> 00:27:01,152
Right.
583
00:27:02,488 --> 00:27:04,855
Was she disemboweled
from between the legs
584
00:27:04,957 --> 00:27:05,689
up through the abdomen?
585
00:27:05,791 --> 00:27:08,158
It would appear so.
586
00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:10,227
That is strikingly similar to.
587
00:27:10,329 --> 00:27:11,361
Right.
588
00:27:11,463 --> 00:27:13,764
Jack the Ripper's
killings in London.
589
00:27:13,866 --> 00:27:17,100
This is a picture of
Catherine Eddowes,
590
00:27:17,203 --> 00:27:20,103
who of course had been
disemboweled and her uterus
591
00:27:20,206 --> 00:27:22,372
and her kidney had been removed.
592
00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:24,741
What strikes me comparing
the Catherine Eddowes
593
00:27:24,843 --> 00:27:28,278
and Carrie Brown autopsy
photos, is that they both have
594
00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:32,683
this cadaver on the
dissection table feel to them.
595
00:27:32,785 --> 00:27:38,956
HH Holmes had a long history
of dissecting cadavers.
596
00:27:39,058 --> 00:27:41,758
Holmes was described as
opening up his cadavers
597
00:27:41,860 --> 00:27:45,395
like a jackrabbit
being dissected.
598
00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:48,565
And that is not a bad
description for both
599
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:51,635
Carrie Brown and
Catherine Eddowes.
600
00:27:51,737 --> 00:27:53,181
Assuming that Carrie
Brown was a victim
601
00:27:53,205 --> 00:27:55,672
of Jack the Ripper in America,
then proving that Holmes
602
00:27:55,741 --> 00:27:57,708
killed Carrie Brown
means proving that
603
00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:59,409
Holmes is the Ripper.
604
00:27:59,511 --> 00:28:02,112
Why Holmes would execute this
particular killing outside
605
00:28:02,214 --> 00:28:04,047
of the Murder Castle,
we don't know.
606
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:06,316
But it's a fascinating find.
607
00:28:06,418 --> 00:28:08,697
What I always find interesting
is the, where it says here,
608
00:28:08,721 --> 00:28:12,256
the characteristics of this
tragedy are so exactly similar
609
00:28:12,358 --> 00:28:15,058
to the White Chapel murders
that the police confidently
610
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,363
express the belief that the
murderer is Jack the Ripper.
611
00:28:27,940 --> 00:28:30,908
Carrie Brown was a
quintessential Ripper victim.
612
00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:33,510
She was a prostitute,
she was strangled
613
00:28:33,612 --> 00:28:36,613
and disemboweled indoors,
just like the fifth
614
00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:38,015
Jack the Ripper killing.
615
00:28:38,117 --> 00:28:39,783
Class Jack M.O.
616
00:28:39,885 --> 00:28:42,419
Amaryllis returns
to Chicago to debrief Jeff
617
00:28:42,521 --> 00:28:44,621
on her New York
investigation while they wait
618
00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:47,190
for news on the
Murder Castle dig.
619
00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:50,027
So more Holmes
Ripper coincidences.
620
00:28:50,129 --> 00:28:52,095
I mean they do keep piling up.
621
00:28:52,197 --> 00:28:55,032
And I think we can say
from this that it validates
622
00:28:55,134 --> 00:28:59,436
our theory that Jack the Ripper
may have been an American
623
00:28:59,538 --> 00:29:02,105
and that his killing may have
picked up in the United States
624
00:29:02,207 --> 00:29:03,307
after it stopped in London.
625
00:29:03,409 --> 00:29:05,242
Hold on, this might
be the post office.
626
00:29:05,344 --> 00:29:07,010
Yeah, Jeff Mudget.
627
00:29:09,949 --> 00:29:11,848
Thanks for calling.
628
00:29:11,951 --> 00:29:14,685
Do you have any word
back on my request?
629
00:29:14,787 --> 00:29:16,320
If Holmes really
was Jack the Ripper,
630
00:29:16,422 --> 00:29:18,789
this could be the only site
where we can find evidence
631
00:29:18,891 --> 00:29:21,224
that links Holmes to
the London murders.
632
00:29:21,327 --> 00:29:22,904
Gaining access to the
castle lawn would be
633
00:29:22,928 --> 00:29:25,629
a huge breakthrough
in our investigation.
634
00:29:25,731 --> 00:29:28,465
I appreciate the call.
635
00:29:28,567 --> 00:29:30,067
Goodbye.
636
00:29:30,169 --> 00:29:32,235
That didn't sound good.
637
00:29:32,338 --> 00:29:34,471
No, they said no.
638
00:29:34,573 --> 00:29:36,340
Post office shut us down.
639
00:29:36,442 --> 00:29:39,176
They were concerned that
the excavation would be
640
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,578
a disruption of the mail and
perhaps even a disservice
641
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,680
to the community.
642
00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:46,016
I mean, for any
investigator to be told
643
00:29:46,118 --> 00:29:49,019
that you're investigating
a multiple homicide
644
00:29:49,121 --> 00:29:51,755
but you're not allowed access
to the scene of the crime,
645
00:29:51,857 --> 00:29:53,557
is a really tough blow.
646
00:29:53,659 --> 00:29:58,028
If this were a case that that
was open and active right now,
647
00:29:58,130 --> 00:30:01,098
we would be getting
a different answer.
648
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,433
Getting underground
at the Murder Castle was
649
00:30:03,535 --> 00:30:07,537
the best chance we had at
proving Holmes was the Ripper.
650
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,041
It sounds like an excavation
is off the table for now.
651
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:13,343
That is a big disappointment.
652
00:30:13,445 --> 00:30:15,323
I still have my fingers crossed
that we'll get the chance
653
00:30:15,347 --> 00:30:17,614
one day if we keep
up the pressure.
654
00:30:17,716 --> 00:30:18,982
Cold cases are tough.
655
00:30:19,051 --> 00:30:21,218
There are always two steps
forward, one step back.
656
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,755
This is definitely a setback
for our investigation.
657
00:30:24,857 --> 00:30:26,868
But we do have some evidence
we haven't analyzed yet.
658
00:30:26,892 --> 00:30:29,626
We have a couple of letters
from the Jack the Ripper
659
00:30:29,728 --> 00:30:33,030
killings that forensic linguists
have told us may have been
660
00:30:33,132 --> 00:30:34,398
written by an American.
661
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,266
And at this stage
we have many samples
662
00:30:36,368 --> 00:30:37,768
of Holmes' handwriting.
663
00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:40,904
So I've sent those to a
forensic handwriting expert
664
00:30:41,006 --> 00:30:42,639
to see if there were
any similarities
665
00:30:42,741 --> 00:30:44,741
that could prove or
disprove your theory.
666
00:30:44,843 --> 00:30:47,577
If we do get a positive
match, that would go a long way
667
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,181
to proving they are
the same killer.
668
00:30:58,724 --> 00:31:01,158
The normal lay person
will look at letters.
669
00:31:01,260 --> 00:31:03,994
The letter L looks the
same, the G looks the same,
670
00:31:04,096 --> 00:31:05,662
the T looks the same.
671
00:31:05,764 --> 00:31:09,399
What the expert does,
we'll look at patterns.
672
00:31:09,501 --> 00:31:11,435
Like fingerprints,
handwriting is unique
673
00:31:11,537 --> 00:31:15,138
to each individual and
different to fake or manipulate.
674
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,774
Forensic document examiners
can identify criminals
675
00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:21,111
and forgeries by
studying writing samples.
676
00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:22,824
Could you give us a few
examples of what it is
677
00:31:22,848 --> 00:31:23,680
you look for?
678
00:31:23,782 --> 00:31:24,948
Sure.
679
00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:26,728
In this particular case
that I was working on
680
00:31:26,752 --> 00:31:30,187
when you came in, we
look for common letters
681
00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:32,089
but we'll also look
for common words.
682
00:31:32,191 --> 00:31:37,461
In the word, In, this looks
like a U, but in fact it's an N.
683
00:31:37,563 --> 00:31:40,597
We'll look at different
height relationships between
684
00:31:40,699 --> 00:31:42,299
different letters, or,
685
00:31:42,401 --> 00:31:45,836
the skill and speed of the
writer, to provide the basis
686
00:31:45,938 --> 00:31:48,538
for our identification
or elimination
687
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,840
of a particular writer.
688
00:31:49,942 --> 00:31:52,843
How would you tell
when letters are written
689
00:31:52,945 --> 00:31:55,212
by the same person who
was intentionally trying
690
00:31:55,314 --> 00:31:57,214
to mask their identity?
691
00:31:58,617 --> 00:32:02,486
If I suspect a disguise,
I will go right to the end,
692
00:32:02,588 --> 00:32:05,188
because it's very difficult
to keep up the disguise
693
00:32:05,290 --> 00:32:07,357
from the beginning to the end.
694
00:32:07,459 --> 00:32:10,193
And then start from the
end and work our way up.
695
00:32:10,295 --> 00:32:13,864
Then you'll see more of the
natural writing of the person.
696
00:32:13,966 --> 00:32:17,601
So, we have here
two sets of letters.
697
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:20,637
And we're interested in
your professional opinion
698
00:32:20,739 --> 00:32:23,140
about whether or not they
could have been penned
699
00:32:23,242 --> 00:32:24,541
by the same hand.
700
00:32:24,643 --> 00:32:26,042
OK.
701
00:32:26,178 --> 00:32:28,678
How long does it take you
to do this kind of analysis?
702
00:32:28,781 --> 00:32:31,047
Generally about a week
for us to turn it around.
703
00:32:31,150 --> 00:32:33,316
Sounds good.
704
00:32:36,321 --> 00:32:38,054
With the
handwriting analysis underway,
705
00:32:38,157 --> 00:32:40,223
Jeff and Amaryllis meet
with Ray Johnson to plan
706
00:32:40,325 --> 00:32:42,025
their next move.
707
00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:43,605
We've been officially
shut down from digging under
708
00:32:43,629 --> 00:32:44,861
the post office.
709
00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:47,764
And the frustrating
thing is that that lawn,
710
00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:49,699
where the Murder
Castle used to stand,
711
00:32:49,802 --> 00:32:53,770
is the only repository
of Holmes' victims.
712
00:32:53,872 --> 00:32:56,373
Well, I wouldn't say only.
713
00:32:56,475 --> 00:32:58,875
While the Murder Castle
was one of Holmes
714
00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:02,245
most famous buildings, he did
own property all over Chicago
715
00:33:02,347 --> 00:33:03,780
in fact all over the country.
716
00:33:03,882 --> 00:33:06,616
And the reason being was to
cover up his various schemes.
717
00:33:06,718 --> 00:33:09,386
Some of the properties he owned-
were the Wilmette property
718
00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:12,722
which he owned with his
second wife, Myrta Belknap.
719
00:33:12,825 --> 00:33:15,625
A small farm just
outside of Joliet.
720
00:33:15,727 --> 00:33:18,795
The glass bending factory in
the North Side of Chicago.
721
00:33:18,864 --> 00:33:20,424
And everywhere that he owned
real estate
722
00:33:20,499 --> 00:33:22,866
you can be sure he was
killing people.
723
00:33:22,968 --> 00:33:25,702
The unfortunate thing is
that like the Murder Castle,
724
00:33:25,804 --> 00:33:29,973
the other locations that he
operated in had been torn down
725
00:33:30,075 --> 00:33:32,876
to make room for condos
and other buildings.
726
00:33:32,978 --> 00:33:36,379
So to be able to dig there
would be next to impossible.
727
00:33:36,481 --> 00:33:38,359
So is there anywhere
left that we could possibly
728
00:33:38,383 --> 00:33:40,884
find physical evidence.
729
00:33:40,986 --> 00:33:44,254
Well, the one business that
Holmes did own that might be
730
00:33:44,356 --> 00:33:47,290
worth investigating is the
William Green & company.
731
00:33:47,392 --> 00:33:50,293
Now, that is the location that
I believe in 1892 he disposed
732
00:33:50,395 --> 00:33:53,563
of one of his victims,
Emeline Cigrand.
733
00:33:53,665 --> 00:33:57,567
She moved to the castle and
started working for Holmes.
734
00:33:57,669 --> 00:34:00,737
She was a stenographer
and secretary.
735
00:34:02,007 --> 00:34:05,008
All of a sudden out of
nowhere this announcement hits
736
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:06,910
the newspaper that
she is getting married
737
00:34:07,012 --> 00:34:09,179
to someone named Robert Phelps.
738
00:34:11,116 --> 00:34:12,927
And one of her friends is
like, That's odd because I had
739
00:34:12,951 --> 00:34:15,585
contact with her on
December 5th and 6th
740
00:34:15,687 --> 00:34:16,967
and she never
mentioned anything.
741
00:34:17,055 --> 00:34:19,022
So, flags were going
up all over the place.
742
00:34:19,124 --> 00:34:21,191
And then she disappeared.
743
00:34:23,295 --> 00:34:24,772
Now, when Holmes was
approached about it,
744
00:34:24,796 --> 00:34:26,830
he said that she got
married in Minnesota.
745
00:34:26,932 --> 00:34:29,833
At another point he said
she got married in Michigan.
746
00:34:29,935 --> 00:34:33,103
And then his story
kept changing.
747
00:34:33,205 --> 00:34:35,939
It wasn't until the actual
investigation started that
748
00:34:36,041 --> 00:34:38,608
someone who worked at
the castle mentioned that
749
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:42,312
on December 7th they
remember Holmes asking
750
00:34:43,348 --> 00:34:47,517
men to help him carry a very
heavy trunk out of the castle.
751
00:34:49,955 --> 00:34:52,555
And where it went
they weren't sure.
752
00:34:52,658 --> 00:34:54,357
Where did they end up?
753
00:34:54,459 --> 00:34:58,128
Well, that's when it
gets really interesting.
754
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:59,629
William Green and Company.
755
00:34:59,731 --> 00:35:02,832
They were a warehouse facility
in the business of storing
756
00:35:02,935 --> 00:35:05,468
and supposedly selling cement.
757
00:35:05,570 --> 00:35:07,370
The funny thing is that
they were buying a lot
758
00:35:07,472 --> 00:35:09,572
of cement but they
never sold any.
759
00:35:09,675 --> 00:35:11,808
And check out the
location of the factory.
760
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:13,843
The warehouse
is located on North Water St.
761
00:35:13,946 --> 00:35:18,581
1600 feet east of St. Clair
Street and running to the river.
762
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:20,929
It kind of made the hair
stand up on my neck when I first
763
00:35:20,953 --> 00:35:23,253
saw where the warehouse was.
764
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:26,935
If you're serial killer and
you're trying to get rid
765
00:35:26,959 --> 00:35:30,760
of bodies, and you want to
do it less conspicuously
766
00:35:30,862 --> 00:35:32,729
then let's say burning
them up in a furnace
767
00:35:32,831 --> 00:35:35,332
in the murder Castle, it'd
be much easier to dispose
768
00:35:35,434 --> 00:35:36,599
of bodies by...
769
00:35:38,337 --> 00:35:41,237
Incasing them in cement
very easily and dropping
770
00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:43,473
them in the Chicago river
771
00:35:50,048 --> 00:35:52,749
Holmes was tied to this
business that had a warehouse
772
00:35:52,851 --> 00:35:56,086
along the Chicago River
filled with cement.
773
00:35:56,188 --> 00:35:57,587
On the hunt to prove HH Holmes
774
00:35:57,689 --> 00:36:00,357
is Jack the Ripper, a tip
from Ray Johnson has opened up
775
00:36:00,459 --> 00:36:02,692
a new lead that could
produce the physical evidence
776
00:36:02,794 --> 00:36:05,929
Jeff and Amaryllis
are looking for.
777
00:36:06,031 --> 00:36:07,831
They've arranged a
meeting with an underwater
778
00:36:07,933 --> 00:36:10,500
reconnaissance team to
uncover whether Holmes' cement
779
00:36:10,602 --> 00:36:13,603
warehouse on the Chicago
River may have been a front
780
00:36:13,705 --> 00:36:15,772
to conceal it's true purpose.
781
00:36:15,874 --> 00:36:17,607
Body disposal.
782
00:36:17,709 --> 00:36:20,443
The area where the
warehouse was located
783
00:36:20,546 --> 00:36:23,647
was on the north side of
Chicago River just west
784
00:36:23,749 --> 00:36:25,115
of the mouth.
785
00:36:25,217 --> 00:36:27,450
What type of area was it?
786
00:36:27,553 --> 00:36:31,788
In the late 1890s, that was
all factories and this was all
787
00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:33,323
heavy industrial stuff.
788
00:36:33,425 --> 00:36:35,659
Now it is obviously not.
789
00:36:35,761 --> 00:36:38,495
It's highend hotels, residences.
790
00:36:39,431 --> 00:36:42,232
Totally changed
from that period.
791
00:36:42,334 --> 00:36:45,635
Plus, the River
itself has changed.
792
00:36:45,737 --> 00:36:47,037
How do you mean?
793
00:36:47,139 --> 00:36:51,041
Well, In 1892 they reversed
the flow of the River.
794
00:36:52,444 --> 00:36:55,078
While Chicago's
industry booms in the 1870s
795
00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:58,315
and 80s, the drinking water
the city relies on is being
796
00:36:58,417 --> 00:37:01,685
contaminated by sewage
and commercial waste.
797
00:37:01,787 --> 00:37:05,755
In 1885, a heavy rainstorm
flushes the polluted water into
798
00:37:05,857 --> 00:37:09,192
the lake starting an epidemic
of waterborne diseases
799
00:37:09,294 --> 00:37:12,896
that kills nearly 12%
of Chicago's population.
800
00:37:12,998 --> 00:37:16,032
The city begins a massive
project to keep its water safe
801
00:37:16,134 --> 00:37:19,402
by reversing the flow
of the Chicago River.
802
00:37:19,504 --> 00:37:22,606
It is regarded as one of the
greatest engineering feats
803
00:37:22,708 --> 00:37:24,608
of the 19th century.
804
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:27,077
The Army Corp of engineers
dredged the River 15 feet
805
00:37:27,179 --> 00:37:29,346
deeper and it took
them about seven years.
806
00:37:29,448 --> 00:37:30,680
When they dredged the River,
807
00:37:30,782 --> 00:37:32,415
they dredged the entire river.
808
00:37:32,517 --> 00:37:34,262
Including the portion that
we are talking about now?
809
00:37:34,286 --> 00:37:38,088
Including the portion
we are talking about.
810
00:37:38,190 --> 00:37:39,190
But,
811
00:37:40,325 --> 00:37:42,192
Chicago River's a
little bit unique.
812
00:37:42,294 --> 00:37:45,729
Unlike many rivers that
have a fair amount of flow,
813
00:37:45,831 --> 00:37:47,564
Chicago River doesn't.
814
00:37:47,666 --> 00:37:49,799
Everything kind of
just sits there.
815
00:37:49,901 --> 00:37:52,902
So, we have a better
chance with this river,
816
00:37:53,005 --> 00:37:54,404
it's worth taking a look.
817
00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:55,405
That is encouraging.
818
00:37:55,507 --> 00:37:57,073
It sounds like a
higher likelihood
819
00:37:57,175 --> 00:38:00,110
in this River that in most that
something would remain there
820
00:38:00,212 --> 00:38:01,252
for a long period of time.
821
00:38:01,346 --> 00:38:03,647
I would guess that, yeah.
822
00:38:05,584 --> 00:38:08,118
What do you say
we go take a look at the site?
823
00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:10,420
Sounds like a plan.
824
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,893
If we were standing
here in the 1890s,
825
00:38:16,995 --> 00:38:18,728
what would we be looking at?
826
00:38:18,830 --> 00:38:20,808
If you look at that little
atrium that kind of splits
827
00:38:20,832 --> 00:38:23,600
the two Towers, that is
kind of dead center where
828
00:38:23,702 --> 00:38:25,235
the warehouse was.
829
00:38:25,337 --> 00:38:27,015
So, how would we go
about searching the bottom
830
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:28,138
of the river.
831
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:29,639
We've got an ROV.
832
00:38:29,708 --> 00:38:32,075
A remote operated vehicle
that we'll put in the water,
833
00:38:32,177 --> 00:38:35,912
put the boat against
the Riverwalk here
834
00:38:36,014 --> 00:38:39,349
and work a kind of a
grid pattern search.
835
00:38:40,352 --> 00:38:42,152
What would we be looking for?
836
00:38:42,254 --> 00:38:45,488
What I've seen in the past,
for example in going to get
837
00:38:45,590 --> 00:38:50,427
cannonballs out of some of
the sites off of Canada,
838
00:38:50,529 --> 00:38:53,263
you actually find
holes in the muck...
839
00:38:53,365 --> 00:38:54,365
Really.
840
00:38:54,466 --> 00:38:55,543
Where the cannonballs went in.
841
00:38:55,567 --> 00:38:57,078
Wow, like a depression
in the bottom.
842
00:38:57,102 --> 00:38:58,268
Exactly.
843
00:38:58,403 --> 00:39:01,671
That hole will stay
there for years.
844
00:39:01,773 --> 00:39:04,174
That's kind of what I am
going to be looking for,
845
00:39:04,276 --> 00:39:08,178
do we have these craters
which is an indication
846
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,014
that something has
been tossed in there.
847
00:39:11,116 --> 00:39:12,694
OK, so let's meet
back up in the morning
848
00:39:12,718 --> 00:39:14,250
and scan this river.
849
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,826
Consider this.
850
00:39:22,928 --> 00:39:26,229
We are on the verge of
using this submersible robot
851
00:39:26,331 --> 00:39:29,332
to attempt to investigate
HH Holmes connection
852
00:39:29,434 --> 00:39:31,334
with Jack the Ripper.
853
00:39:31,436 --> 00:39:34,404
We've got a chance of finding
bodies encased in cement
854
00:39:34,506 --> 00:39:36,740
at the bottom of
this river floor.
855
00:39:36,842 --> 00:39:38,675
What we don't know
is what to expect.
856
00:39:38,777 --> 00:39:41,077
These could be humansized
cement coffins,
857
00:39:41,179 --> 00:39:42,846
or they could be
smaller chunks of cement
858
00:39:42,948 --> 00:39:44,647
that contain body parts.
859
00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:48,918
Either way, they could be
time capsules of evidence.
860
00:39:57,662 --> 00:39:59,162
He's in.
861
00:40:01,767 --> 00:40:04,267
Adam, let out some cable.
862
00:40:04,369 --> 00:40:08,371
We're going to run it a
little bit further east.
863
00:40:17,516 --> 00:40:19,849
Go ahead and bring her down.
864
00:40:29,227 --> 00:40:31,094
What exactly
are we looking at here?
865
00:40:31,196 --> 00:40:35,365
Probably anywhere from
three to six feet of silt.
866
00:40:43,475 --> 00:40:45,208
Here we go, there we go.
867
00:40:45,310 --> 00:40:47,811
Can we hold it right in there?
868
00:40:50,682 --> 00:40:52,282
Wow.
869
00:40:52,384 --> 00:40:53,384
Go up a little bit.
870
00:40:53,418 --> 00:40:55,752
Just a little bit, OK.
871
00:40:55,854 --> 00:40:57,787
You see these little bumps here?
872
00:40:57,889 --> 00:40:59,556
Whoa, there are so many of them.
873
00:40:59,658 --> 00:41:03,226
This is an indication that
things have been dumped here.
874
00:41:07,499 --> 00:41:09,899
Next time on American Ripper.
875
00:41:10,001 --> 00:41:13,069
What could have been a
more perfect place on Earth
876
00:41:13,171 --> 00:41:16,239
for a killer of his nature
than something like this.
877
00:41:16,341 --> 00:41:18,074
Two miles from his hotel.
878
00:41:18,176 --> 00:41:20,410
There was a number of
things I found about women
879
00:41:20,512 --> 00:41:21,744
with their throats cut.
880
00:41:21,847 --> 00:41:23,847
My great, great aunt
took a trip to Chicago
881
00:41:23,949 --> 00:41:25,815
and was never heard from again.
882
00:41:25,917 --> 00:41:28,251
I wonder how many
unknown women were found
883
00:41:28,353 --> 00:41:31,421
with Ripperesque type
of murders in Chicago.
884
00:41:31,523 --> 00:41:32,322
That's interesting.
885
00:41:32,424 --> 00:41:33,957
Unknown woman, unknown woman.
886
00:41:34,059 --> 00:41:35,692
Throat cut from ear to ear.
887
00:41:35,794 --> 00:41:38,261
We have some results
that are regressing.
888
00:41:38,363 --> 00:41:40,163
A picture's worth
a thousand words.
889
00:41:40,265 --> 00:41:43,600
How can you best preserve
a body for 100 years?
890
00:41:43,702 --> 00:41:45,502
Encase it in concrete?
891
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,940
So, we're talking about
a forensic time capsule.
892
00:41:51,042 --> 00:41:52,042
Yea.
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