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1950 Silverstone,
I mean, so magic that race.
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It's where Formula 1 started.
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The traffic was unbelievable.
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120,000 turned up for that race,
including the King and Queen.
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It was an airfield
that was used during the war.
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The Wellington bombers
used to fly out of there.
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Unfortunately,
a lot of the guys never come back.
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I went with my father.
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We couldn't sleep in a hotel
because they didn't exist.
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So we slept in the car.
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And now things
are an awful lot different.
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The big thing today
is finding the best 5-star hotel.
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Nobody worries about how much.
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All the teams used to race
in their traditional colours,
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England was green,
France was blue.
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The most important of all
were the Italians that were red.
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Now they're all on the grid.
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The mechanics have started
the engines as you can hear.
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And they're off! They're away!
Listen to it!
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And the Alfas give everyone
a demonstration of acceleration.
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Here comes Farina.
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He was flagged in,
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and Farina has won
the Grand Prix d'Europe.
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Alfa Romeo won the race.
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In fact they were 1st, 2nd and 3rd
with no Ferraris entered.
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I don't know
how my mother ever found out
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when I was, really a baby,
that I had eye problems.
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And she used to take me
to Norwich on a bicycle...
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..to a specialist there,
10 miles away from where we lived.
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And they discovered
I had practically no vision
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out of my right eye.
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It's like having
a photograph out of focus.
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I was born in Suffolk,
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we decided to move
to Dartford, in London.
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And then the war started.
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I don't really remember when I sort
of started to think about business.
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But probably because I didn't even
know what business was.
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But I used to carry out
a couple of paper rounds
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before I went to school.
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When I got off the train,
just by the side of the station,
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was a little bakery.
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They used to sell bread obviously
and buns and things like that.
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This was when these things
were very difficult to find.
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And I'd buy all the buns and cakes
and whatever they had there.
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Put 'em in the suitcase which I had
with me all the time to carry these.
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Take them to school,
and during the break
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and the morning lessons,
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I used to sell these,
or do deals of whatever.
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Probably used to do deals
to get results of exams
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or something like that.
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But anyway,
the idea was to sell them.
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I was lucky enough
to leave school at 15
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and eventually I became
a used car dealer.
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A lot of the sharp operators,
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we used to buy and sell
at the side of the road.
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You dealt with what I call,
'proper people.'
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We dealt with cash.
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You learned to keep on your toes,
keep your eyes open
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and make sure that
you honoured a handshake.
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If you said, "Yes it was a deal,"
it was a deal.
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I used to race bicycles
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and then motorcycles
and then had an upgrade.
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I won a few races and got
a couple of records for things.
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And I was racing at Goodwood,
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and somebody gone
round the outside of me,
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which was impossible actually.
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It was Stirling Moss.
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It's like if you're watching
an artist, if you like, painting.
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You can't see how,
when the painting's finished,
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that it could ever
come out like that.
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The only car apart from the Maserati
driven by Fangio,
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that's won any of the World
Championship races is the Vanwall.
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I would like to win the World
Championship with a British car.
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But this year,
Fangio's unassailable.
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Fangio was a racer.
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People like that,
I think when you're young,
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you don't believe
they're alive.
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They're something so special,
that they don't exist.
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When I was 20,
he was nearly double my age,
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when he started racing.
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He wasn't sort of one of these
18-year-old super kids.
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He was a guy
that I got much closer to later on.
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He was always recognised
to be the number one.
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Ferrari and Maserati
had well and truly overtaken
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Alfa Romeo
and were the most prominent teams.
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And it was 1957
he won his 5th World Championship.
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Fangio retired
when he was still ahead.
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I met Stuart Lewis-Evans
in his early days.
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His dad used to have
a garage not far from where I was,
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and we become good friends.
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And I used to try and look after
things that he was doing,
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not manager but a little bit
of, hopefully, good advice.
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Lewis-Evans slides right
through the barrier
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on his Cooper 500
but comes to no harm.
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So, that was really how I really got
involved so much in Formula 1
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and knew all the people that became
very very famous at the same time.
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The 50s,
that's when drivers were drivers.
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Pity social media
wasn't about those days.
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They were all characters.
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Good looking guys as well.
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They wasn't too interested
in anything else but racing.
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It wasn't so important
to win a World Championship.
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It was good to win,
but so what if you didn't win,
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you won a few races
so that was all that mattered.
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'58 was a really competitive year.
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We had three Vanwalls with
Stirling, Tony Brooks and Stuart.
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And we had Ferrari
with Mike Hawthorn,
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which was their lead driver.
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Mike and Ferrari,
as far as I was concerned,
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were the opposition.
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Mike was very special.
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You'd have to call him one
of the genuine gentleman racers.
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We were at Spa and Stirling
had said to Stuart
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how he'd taken the corner
more or less flat,
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to put off Stuart
who was a little bit of a challenge.
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And I said, "Tell Stirling,
I did actually take it flat."
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And Stirling said,
"No, you couldn't do that."
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But Stuart actually had done it.
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Another Vanwall win
as Brookes goes by.
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Hawthorn comes down
in a storming spectacular finish.
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Lewis-Evans coasts over the line
to finish third
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but to join the swiftly
growing breakers yard
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with broken front suspension.
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Cause we won the last race,
people are saying,
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well, Ferrari will win this one,
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but it's a completely
different type of circuit.
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I think it's a very open race
quite honestly.
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I think that Mike's driving
and going very fast now.
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In the war, people actually died,
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and I think they sort of took racing
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as one of those things
that you could get killed.
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People always thought,
"Can't be me. could be somebody else,
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"but it
won't be me for sure."
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Going to Casablanca,
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we knew for sure after that race,
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England was going
to have a World Champion.
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Whether it was going to be
Stirling or Mike Hawthorn.
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Stirling had to win
and get the fastest lap
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to win the championship.
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Stuart was quick enough
to win that race,
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but he was there
to back up Stirling.
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Colin was a genius.
Probably the best we've seen.
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He understood, early days,
about power and weight.
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This is the first time
we've been able to coordinate
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the build of an engine
and a chassis together
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and design each one
to suit the other
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and with a sort of weight
and simplicity and power,
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The car sort of rolled over
and caught fire
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I think we're gonna have
a fabulous motor car.
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Yeah, that's fitting well.
Beautiful. Yep.
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and Stuart got out of the car
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That's the job. Lovely.
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and started to run away
from, obviously, the accident.
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We've built the engine onto the car
as you can see,
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And if he hadn't had run away
and had rolled over
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and now, we've built the rest
of the suspension
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on the back of the engine
because the engine itself
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or somebody'd have been there
and grabbed hold of him,
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is forming part
of the structure of the car
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he would have probably
been alright but, didn't happen.
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and of course
it holds it all together.
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He would look
at all the rules and regulations
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and see how he could make
the car the lightest car.
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He was so, so badly burned.
He was in really bad shape.
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By the time they'd got him back
to East Grinstead
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where there was a hospital
that looked after all the pilots
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The lighter
you can make the car,
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the more power it's got,
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the more chances you've got
of being successful.
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during the war...
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..it was all a bit too late.
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This is a difficult question,
Mike, but what does it mean,
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what can it mean, to have won
the World Championship?
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We stretch everything
to the limit on our race cars,
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Well, obviously...
It's the ambition I think
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we find out just what a part will do
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and how much it will stand
and then we then know
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of every racing driver
to win it.
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what sort of safety limit
we can incorporate
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I've achieved my ambition now
in that field
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in our production cars.
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and of course there is quite
a lot of financial advantage
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which does come in useful.
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It was a bad day for me
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cause I was very close with Stuart,
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and he died the day
after my 28th birthday.
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Colin probably was the one
that really got the real value
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of what it was to brand
a Formula 1 car,
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I went back to running my business,
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very early on before anybody else.
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not thinking I was ever going
to get involved any longer.
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People at that time
were still putting stickers
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on their car with names.
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And Colin
went one massive step farther.
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So it was really
a movable cigarette package.
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The 60's in London,
it was a swinging city for sure.
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Which managed to upset, obviously,
the government people at the time.
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I didn't swing at all.
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I was trying to do any deals
I could to make a few dollars.
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I think Colin also was lucky
to have Jim Clark as the driver.
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I had other business
which was a proper car showroom.
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I mean, they acted
like father and son.
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Complete plate glass windows
and doors in front
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so people could see in.
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But it was always
completely immaculate,
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So the two of them,
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and I kept it that way.
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it just was one
of those magic moments, in life.
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Whether it...
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Terribly terribly fussy,
probably a bit from my old mum,
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I used to make sure the cars
were lined up nicely and looked nice.
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Colin thought the world of Jim
for sure and vice versa.
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They trusted in each other.
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My dad would greet and meet
people that come in
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and he was very patient,
which is a lot more patient
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than I used to be.
So he was a valuable asset.
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Colin was obsessed with making sure
his cars were lighter.
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But all of his cars
were a little bit fragile.
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I mixed with a lot
of show-business people.
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Twiggy, Adam Faith, and Sandie Shaw.
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They were all good customers
in the end.
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I'd, um, bought a car from someone
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and then found out it was financed,
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Graham, isn't the depressing thing
about Jim Clark's death
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so the guy didn't own the car.
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not only that he was one
of the greatest drivers
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So I stopped the cheque
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but also one of the safest?
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Yes, it's ironic.
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and the guy duly appeared
to explain to me
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Of course, we're not sure quite
what happened
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but it looks...
The indications are that
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how he'd like the cheque cleared,
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it might not have...
not have been his fault.
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and produced a gun
from under his sweater to show me.
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Which is, you know, is a tragedy
whichever way you look at it.
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And I explained to him
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Everyone realises
there is danger in motor-racing.
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I didn't know what he was going
to do with it, you know,
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it certainly wasn't a pain
to come to some agreement
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There is this element of chance.
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It is something we all have
to live with and face up to.
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about something and,
"if you shoot me,
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"the cheque won't be cleared.
Let's have a chat."
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It is... a sport which the drivers
do voluntary at their own volition.
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So we went to the office
and discussed things
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and obviously
we sorted it out.
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I paid him...cleared off the finance
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They realise the risk they take.
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or said I was going to
and paid him the difference.
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Really, it's not up to us to...
try to change that.
252
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And then he become a very good
customer from then on in.
253
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John Cooper used to run
the Cooper car company.
254
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People want to climb mountains;
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We become good friends.
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people want to sail around the world
single-handed and so on.
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This is where we build
our racing cars
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This is just part
of human endeavour.
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and there are literally
hundreds of component parts
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that go to building
a racing car.
261
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,360
Some people wish to do these things.
262
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John was just a long way ahead
of a lot of other people.
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They want to push things
to the limit.
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00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,360
Nobody would ever believe this sort
of thing would happen to Jimmy.
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He was the first guy, in Formula 1,
to put an engine in the back end
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of the car rather than the front,
and it worked.
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We gather here in Mexico City
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The people with big engines
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at the end
of a very eventful season.
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and engines in the front of the car
suddenly realised
271
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Jim Clark who, before he died,
established himself
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if you want to win, you'd better
put the engine in the back.
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as the greatest Grand Prix driver
of all time
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with a record of 25 victories.
275
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It's been an eventful season
in other ways too,
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there's been the
great controversy
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00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,680
Ferrari didn't think it was
the right thing to do
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about advertising on the cars.
279
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but eventually actually
did that their-self.
280
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John Cooper, Grand Prix racing
281
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is getting more expensive
all the time,
282
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,480
what's the future for
the small constructor like yourself?
283
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,280
Well, I think we're in a very very
serious position at the moment
284
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,680
and I think we've got
to look to people outside
285
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,360
the motor industry for support,
such as cigarette companies
286
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,920
John asked me to go to Mexico
with him for the race.
287
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,000
or liquor companies
or something like that.
00:29:05,020 --> 00:29:07,840
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,840
That was a super place
in those days.
288
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,480
The money's got
to come from somewhere
289
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,800
and I think it will
have to come outside,
290
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,840
come from out, outside
the motor industry.
291
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,760
And then Jochen had arrived.
292
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,720
And I told him,
"I've just had a massage."
293
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,600
"Why don't you do the same?"
294
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,880
Isn't there a case for making
the minimum weight heavier
295
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,160
"Yes," he said, "OK."
296
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,320
And I took him down,
introduced him to the lady
297
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,120
so that the cars are more solid?
298
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,160
None whatsoever
because the suspension,
299
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,520
that ran this
and left him there.
300
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,880
however heavy a car is,
301
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,280
And I said to Jochen,
"So, it was all good?
302
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,120
the suspension has always got
to be the lightest part of it
303
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,800
because this is what gives
the car its road holding.
304
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,040
"Everything good?"
305
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,520
He said, "Yeah," he said,
"yeah, yeah, yeah, it was...
306
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,480
"The girl said
I was a naughty boy, that's all."
307
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,240
I never went into any details.
308
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,600
Colin needed a top driver in 1969.
309
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,840
And he wanted Jochen.
310
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,320
When Jochen
was driving in Formula 2,
311
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:01,600
And Jochen wanted to drive there
312
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,200
he always managed
to win against anyone.
313
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,600
cause Jochen wanted
to win the World Championship.
314
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,200
Jochen was really really quick.
315
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,240
I explained to Jochen,
"You've got a much better chance
316
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,680
"of winning the championship
in a Lotus,
317
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:16,680
It's very very easy to run
really fast without trying too hard.
318
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,480
"but you've also got a good chance
of getting hurt, so think about it."
319
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,520
Looking at racing cars,
they seem to me that they look
320
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,240
If you keep on the perfect line
and you don't slide too much,
321
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,160
less and less like cars to me
322
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,160
you can go very very fast
without looking fast
323
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,000
and more and more like planes with
these sort of aerofoil arrangements
324
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,080
and without having
a great physical effort.
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00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,200
at the back here
and again at the front.
326
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Now, presumably this is to keep
the thing on the ground, is it?
327
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,760
The wings that we have on the car,
front and rear,
328
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,760
He used to be racing the cars
329
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,120
and I used to try
and do some business for us.
330
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,160
do work like an inverted
aeroplane wing
331
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,160
And I used to say to him,
"Don't forget you've got to collect
332
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,920
whereas the wing
on an aeroplane lifts it up,
333
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,680
and ours keep it on the ground.
334
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,160
"the start money
before the race."
335
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,360
Which means of course we get more
grip and can corner quicker.
336
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,680
The whole thing strikes me as,
if I may interrupt...
337
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,840
After the race,
having had a key to our house,
338
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,160
Yes you may!
339
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,120
..terribly dangerous.
340
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,800
he would come and wake me up
341
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,560
Who would you say is your main,
your main rivals next year?
342
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,360
and we'd actually
go into the kitchen,
343
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,320
My new teammate I think is going
to be a bit of a threat.
344
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,400
and he'd say, "I collected
the money. Here it is."
345
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,120
But that's Colin Chapman's worry
as well as mine.
346
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,360
And then we played Gin Rummy.
347
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,120
We were like brothers.
348
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,160
Jackie managed to keep up
with the fashion.
349
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,880
He was a little bit different
to most of the guys.
350
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,480
He could have been
one of the Beatles.
351
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,440
When Jochen found Nina,
she was a gorgeous,
352
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,200
Jackie got in the car without
having driven a single seater
353
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,640
gorgeous, gorgeous girl...
354
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,920
of any sort before,
and in five laps,
355
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,720
he'd gone quicker
than Bruce McLaren had been.
356
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,120
..and they decided
they ought to get married.
357
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,000
And I think from then on,
we knew that Jackie had arrived.
358
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,480
I was invited along with Tuana,
the girl I was with at the time,
359
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,000
Jackie had a super relationship
with Ken Tyrrell.
360
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,760
on the honeymoon.
361
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,920
Which I suppose is a bit unusual.
362
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,720
They trusted each other completely
and they should.
363
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,120
I think basically it's because
Jochen and I could play Gin Rummy.
364
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,360
Cause Ken produced a good car
for Jackie
365
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,400
and Jackie
did the job in the car.
366
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,440
Right, can we do...
If we can do these two first,
367
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,760
the two quarters, half an inch.
368
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,440
And we can adjust
the throttle one half.
369
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,800
So I can get right down here,
out the way.
370
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,160
Jim Clark was quick
in whatever he drove.
371
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,840
And could turn it on
whenever he had to.
372
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,600
Well, I really got into
motor-racing accidentally almost.
373
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,040
I had always had an interest
in cars and in speed
374
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,440
and in motor-racing but never did
I ever in my wildest dreams
375
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,240
expect ever to become
a professional racing driver.
376
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,800
As a driver I think Jim Clark,
I think he's good.
377
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,240
But he's a very good
sheep farmer too.
378
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,360
One of the reasons I think
he's good is that umm...
379
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,760
..he keeps winning,
which I find a bit irritating.
380
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,760
It really wasn't a case of Colin
not knowing what to do.
381
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,760
It was sometimes he would
sort of go to the limit
382
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,720
and then maybe
a little bit over.
383
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,250
00:33:12.480 -- 00:33:14.880
If you have a wish free...
384
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,400
That you would stop racing.
385
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,600
Colin and Jochen
were staying in the same hotel
386
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,880
with rooms
next door to each other.
387
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,520
And they had a discussion
about the car
388
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,520
and Jochen was a bit upset,
389
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,920
and so Colin called me
and said, "Tell him, this."
390
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,920
And I'd say this to...
I'd call Jochen and tell him.
391
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,240
And he'd say, "Well you can...
you can tell him this as well."
392
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,640
So I'd have to go back
to Colin again
393
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,280
and this went on for quite a time.
394
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,120
They wouldn't talk to each other.
395
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,600
October reminds me very much of when
we used to race at Watkins Glen.
396
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,600
All the leaves change
a different colour,
397
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,280
and it looks if you're in
a completely different world.
398
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,400
The first of everything
is special and you remember it.
399
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,480
I was not only pleased
that was his first win,
400
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,360
but I was pleased
that he'd beat Jackie
401
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,240
because it was always between
the two of them who was the best.
402
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,480
Into the hairpin, there they go,
403
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,600
and Brabham's gone straight on
and Rindt.
404
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,360
Jochen Rindt, for Lotus,
wins the Monaco GP.
405
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,600
I was following him
into the last left,
406
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,640
and it just overcooked the last
braking for the last corner,
407
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,160
and he went straight, and I went
around the corner and I won it.
408
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:50,640
I can't believe it myself.
409
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:55,120
1970 was one of those magic years
really, for everyone.
410
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,000
Things just didn't go wrong.
411
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,840
It was just a good year.
412
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,880
Unbelievable.
413
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,280
Rindt wins the race from Brabham
on the last corner,
414
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,400
exactly as he did
in Monte-Carlo.
415
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:44,640
One minute to go.
416
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:45,920
One minute, engines starting,
417
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,240
ready to move forward
onto the final grid.
418
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,080
Jochen Rindt at the top.
419
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,280
Is it simply a matter
of making a lot of money
420
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,600
and then getting out
of the business?
421
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,360
Well, it surely helps
to make a lot of money,
422
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,040
and in my case, I was quite
well off anyway, before I started.
423
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,280
I mean, I'm better off
now through racing
424
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,920
but it wasn't money
why I started racing.
425
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,120
Could I ask what you might earn now
426
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,680
as one of the top drivers
in the world?
427
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,280
Enough.
428
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,080
I'd actually been staying
with Jochen and Nina
429
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,360
in their house in Switzerland.
430
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,360
We'd met an Austrian sponsor,
which was all a little bit hectic
431
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,640
trying to extract
the right amount of money from him.
432
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:32,160
In the end he agreed
and we drove together to Monza.
433
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,840
Those wives were completely
different to the wives today.
434
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,040
They used to look
after the timekeeping.
435
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,400
So they were all part
of a Formula 1 team.
436
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,640
They wasn't there
for a holiday or enjoyment.
437
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,240
They were there working.
438
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,120
An essential part of it.
439
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,240
During that practice session,
we were waiting for Jochen
440
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,680
to come round
and then somebody said to me
441
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,720
that he'd had an accident.
442
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,680
So I rushed down to exactly
where the accident happened.
443
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,680
And I collected his helmet
and walked back to the pits
444
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,440
to find out what was going
to happen to Jochen
445
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,000
and where they were...
where they were going to take him
446
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,800
and how bad he was or whatever.
447
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,040
And I found out
that he'd been put in
448
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,040
Volkswagen Kombi sort of thing.
449
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,680
What people I suppose want
to describe as an ambulance.
450
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,080
There's nothing anyone could do.
451
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,160
When they got him to the hospital,
it was too late.
452
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,160
And he was dead then.
453
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,480
People blamed the fact
that it was a Lotus.
454
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,160
You always think
it's not going to happen to me.
455
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,920
People want to win and want
to get in the best machinery.
456
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,480
In the name of the father,
457
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,560
and of the son,
and of the holy ghost.
458
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,200
Dear friends, dear family,
459
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,880
once the sad news of Monza
had arrived at our consciousness,
460
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,520
we realised
how the family Rindt,
461
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,560
Mrs. Rindt and her little daughter,
462
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:11,160
were thrown
into a most terrible fate.
463
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,640
Apparently,
I was at Jochen's funeral,
464
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:23,440
though I don't quite
remember it.
465
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,840
To die doing something
that you love to do,
466
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,720
is to die happy.
467
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,640
Regardless what happens
468
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:54,920
in the remaining Grand Prixs
this year,
469
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,520
to all of us,
Jochen is the world champion.
470
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,840
Jochen was the world champion
in the end of the season.
471
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,040
Better he wasn't world champion,
he would have been still with us.
472
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:15,520
Earth to earth,
ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
473
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,320
Although Jochen's death
was a big big loss to me,
474
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,520
it wasn't going to finish
me in Formula 1.
475
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,280
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