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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,840 1950 Silverstone, I mean, so magic that race. 2 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,400 It's where Formula 1 started. 3 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,600 The traffic was unbelievable. 4 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,560 120,000 turned up for that race, including the King and Queen. 5 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,000 It was an airfield that was used during the war. 6 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,720 The Wellington bombers used to fly out of there. 7 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,760 Unfortunately, a lot of the guys never come back. 8 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,360 I went with my father. 9 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,880 We couldn't sleep in a hotel because they didn't exist. 10 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:23,680 So we slept in the car. 11 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,760 And now things are an awful lot different. 12 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,000 The big thing today is finding the best 5-star hotel. 13 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,600 Nobody worries about how much. 14 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,280 All the teams used to race in their traditional colours, 15 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,600 England was green, France was blue. 16 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,640 The most important of all were the Italians that were red. 17 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,520 Now they're all on the grid. 18 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,760 The mechanics have started the engines as you can hear. 19 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 And they're off! They're away! Listen to it! 20 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,320 And the Alfas give everyone a demonstration of acceleration. 21 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,160 Here comes Farina. 22 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,360 He was flagged in, 23 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,120 and Farina has won the Grand Prix d'Europe. 24 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,800 Alfa Romeo won the race. 25 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,760 In fact they were 1st, 2nd and 3rd with no Ferraris entered. 26 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,480 I don't know how my mother ever found out 27 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,280 when I was, really a baby, that I had eye problems. 28 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,280 And she used to take me to Norwich on a bicycle... 29 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,200 ..to a specialist there, 10 miles away from where we lived. 30 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,320 And they discovered I had practically no vision 31 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,760 out of my right eye. 32 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:21,040 It's like having a photograph out of focus. 33 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,040 I was born in Suffolk, 34 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,760 we decided to move to Dartford, in London. 35 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,480 And then the war started. 36 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,360 I don't really remember when I sort of started to think about business. 37 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,040 But probably because I didn't even know what business was. 38 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,840 But I used to carry out a couple of paper rounds 39 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,000 before I went to school. 40 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,840 When I got off the train, just by the side of the station, 41 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,600 was a little bakery. 42 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,920 They used to sell bread obviously and buns and things like that. 43 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,880 This was when these things were very difficult to find. 44 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,360 And I'd buy all the buns and cakes and whatever they had there. 45 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,520 Put 'em in the suitcase which I had with me all the time to carry these. 46 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Take them to school, and during the break 47 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,760 and the morning lessons, 48 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:35,440 I used to sell these, or do deals of whatever. 49 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Probably used to do deals to get results of exams 50 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:39,040 or something like that. 51 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,680 But anyway, the idea was to sell them. 52 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,560 I was lucky enough to leave school at 15 53 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,680 and eventually I became a used car dealer. 54 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,120 A lot of the sharp operators, 55 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,120 we used to buy and sell at the side of the road. 56 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,760 You dealt with what I call, 'proper people.' 57 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:08,400 We dealt with cash. 58 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,920 You learned to keep on your toes, keep your eyes open 59 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,600 and make sure that you honoured a handshake. 60 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,840 If you said, "Yes it was a deal," it was a deal. 61 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,840 I used to race bicycles 62 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,680 and then motorcycles and then had an upgrade. 63 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,800 I won a few races and got a couple of records for things. 64 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,840 And I was racing at Goodwood, 65 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,160 and somebody gone round the outside of me, 66 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,920 which was impossible actually. 67 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,200 It was Stirling Moss. 68 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,040 It's like if you're watching an artist, if you like, painting. 69 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,240 You can't see how, when the painting's finished, 70 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,560 that it could ever come out like that. 71 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,800 The only car apart from the Maserati driven by Fangio, 72 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,520 that's won any of the World Championship races is the Vanwall. 73 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,880 I would like to win the World Championship with a British car. 74 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,480 But this year, Fangio's unassailable. 75 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,920 Fangio was a racer. 76 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,360 People like that, I think when you're young, 77 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:27,920 you don't believe they're alive. 78 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,320 They're something so special, that they don't exist. 79 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:38,520 When I was 20, he was nearly double my age, 80 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,200 when he started racing. 81 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,240 He wasn't sort of one of these 18-year-old super kids. 82 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,760 He was a guy that I got much closer to later on. 83 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,040 He was always recognised to be the number one. 84 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,520 Ferrari and Maserati had well and truly overtaken 85 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,120 Alfa Romeo and were the most prominent teams. 86 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:06,160 And it was 1957 he won his 5th World Championship. 87 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,200 Fangio retired when he was still ahead. 88 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:30,250 00:19:02.120 -- 00:19:06.520 I met Stuart Lewis-Evans in his early days. 89 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,240 His dad used to have a garage not far from where I was, 90 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,640 and we become good friends. 91 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,360 And I used to try and look after things that he was doing, 92 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,600 not manager but a little bit of, hopefully, good advice. 93 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,480 Lewis-Evans slides right through the barrier 94 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,080 on his Cooper 500 but comes to no harm. 95 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:36,320 So, that was really how I really got involved so much in Formula 1 96 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,920 and knew all the people that became very very famous at the same time. 97 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,760 The 50s, that's when drivers were drivers. 98 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,160 Pity social media wasn't about those days. 99 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,920 They were all characters. 100 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,520 Good looking guys as well. 101 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,680 They wasn't too interested in anything else but racing. 102 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,600 It wasn't so important to win a World Championship. 103 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,240 It was good to win, but so what if you didn't win, 104 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,000 you won a few races so that was all that mattered. 105 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:57,480 '58 was a really competitive year. 106 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,920 We had three Vanwalls with Stirling, Tony Brooks and Stuart. 107 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,720 And we had Ferrari with Mike Hawthorn, 108 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,160 which was their lead driver. 109 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,840 Mike and Ferrari, as far as I was concerned, 110 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,520 were the opposition. 111 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,880 Mike was very special. 112 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,560 You'd have to call him one of the genuine gentleman racers. 113 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,320 We were at Spa and Stirling had said to Stuart 114 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,640 how he'd taken the corner more or less flat, 115 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,040 to put off Stuart who was a little bit of a challenge. 116 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:41,920 And I said, "Tell Stirling, I did actually take it flat." 117 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,200 And Stirling said, "No, you couldn't do that." 118 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,120 But Stuart actually had done it. 119 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,840 Another Vanwall win as Brookes goes by. 120 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,840 Hawthorn comes down in a storming spectacular finish. 121 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,880 Lewis-Evans coasts over the line to finish third 122 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,840 but to join the swiftly growing breakers yard 123 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,600 with broken front suspension. 124 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,560 Cause we won the last race, people are saying, 125 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,120 well, Ferrari will win this one, 126 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,520 but it's a completely different type of circuit. 127 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,720 I think it's a very open race quite honestly. 128 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,360 I think that Mike's driving and going very fast now. 129 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,760 In the war, people actually died, 130 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,720 and I think they sort of took racing 131 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,760 as one of those things that you could get killed. 132 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,400 People always thought, "Can't be me. could be somebody else, 133 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,920 "but it won't be me for sure." 134 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,760 Going to Casablanca, 135 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,640 we knew for sure after that race, 136 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,880 England was going to have a World Champion. 137 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,080 Whether it was going to be Stirling or Mike Hawthorn. 138 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:28,720 Stirling had to win and get the fastest lap 139 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,600 to win the championship. 140 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,320 Stuart was quick enough to win that race, 141 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,080 but he was there to back up Stirling. 142 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:47,250 00:23:48.280 -- 00:23:52.520 Colin was a genius. Probably the best we've seen. 143 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,560 He understood, early days, about power and weight. 144 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,240 This is the first time we've been able to coordinate 145 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,840 the build of an engine and a chassis together 146 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,760 and design each one to suit the other 147 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,720 and with a sort of weight and simplicity and power, 148 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,120 The car sort of rolled over and caught fire 149 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,080 I think we're gonna have a fabulous motor car. 150 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,120 Yeah, that's fitting well. Beautiful. Yep. 151 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,080 and Stuart got out of the car 152 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,360 That's the job. Lovely. 153 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,560 and started to run away from, obviously, the accident. 154 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,920 We've built the engine onto the car as you can see, 155 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,160 And if he hadn't had run away and had rolled over 156 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,520 and now, we've built the rest of the suspension 157 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,400 on the back of the engine because the engine itself 158 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,840 or somebody'd have been there and grabbed hold of him, 159 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,000 is forming part of the structure of the car 160 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,080 he would have probably been alright but, didn't happen. 161 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,680 and of course it holds it all together. 162 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,160 He would look at all the rules and regulations 163 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,560 and see how he could make the car the lightest car. 164 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,520 He was so, so badly burned. He was in really bad shape. 165 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,840 By the time they'd got him back to East Grinstead 166 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,640 where there was a hospital that looked after all the pilots 167 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,520 The lighter you can make the car, 168 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,360 the more power it's got, 169 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,560 the more chances you've got of being successful. 170 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,520 during the war... 171 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,440 ..it was all a bit too late. 172 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,520 This is a difficult question, Mike, but what does it mean, 173 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,920 what can it mean, to have won the World Championship? 174 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,240 We stretch everything to the limit on our race cars, 175 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,720 Well, obviously... It's the ambition I think 176 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,880 we find out just what a part will do 177 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,160 and how much it will stand and then we then know 178 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,000 of every racing driver to win it. 179 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,640 what sort of safety limit we can incorporate 180 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,080 I've achieved my ambition now in that field 181 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,040 in our production cars. 182 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,680 and of course there is quite a lot of financial advantage 183 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,360 which does come in useful. 184 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,000 It was a bad day for me 185 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,040 cause I was very close with Stuart, 186 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:34,320 and he died the day after my 28th birthday. 187 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,720 Colin probably was the one that really got the real value 188 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,200 of what it was to brand a Formula 1 car, 189 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,760 I went back to running my business, 190 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,640 very early on before anybody else. 191 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,920 not thinking I was ever going to get involved any longer. 192 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,160 People at that time were still putting stickers 193 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,160 on their car with names. 194 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,680 And Colin went one massive step farther. 195 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,920 So it was really a movable cigarette package. 196 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,680 The 60's in London, it was a swinging city for sure. 197 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:07,840 Which managed to upset, obviously, the government people at the time. 198 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,680 I didn't swing at all. 199 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,760 I was trying to do any deals I could to make a few dollars. 200 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,600 I think Colin also was lucky to have Jim Clark as the driver. 201 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,280 I had other business which was a proper car showroom. 202 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,880 I mean, they acted like father and son. 203 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,640 Complete plate glass windows and doors in front 204 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,360 so people could see in. 205 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,040 But it was always completely immaculate, 206 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,720 So the two of them, 207 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,040 and I kept it that way. 208 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,760 it just was one of those magic moments, in life. 209 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,480 Whether it... 210 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,280 Terribly terribly fussy, probably a bit from my old mum, 211 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:35,320 I used to make sure the cars were lined up nicely and looked nice. 212 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,040 Colin thought the world of Jim for sure and vice versa. 213 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:38,920 They trusted in each other. 214 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,640 My dad would greet and meet people that come in 215 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,200 and he was very patient, which is a lot more patient 216 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,800 than I used to be. So he was a valuable asset. 217 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,240 Colin was obsessed with making sure his cars were lighter. 218 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,840 But all of his cars were a little bit fragile. 219 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,800 I mixed with a lot of show-business people. 220 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:04,720 Twiggy, Adam Faith, and Sandie Shaw. 221 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,920 They were all good customers in the end. 222 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,520 I'd, um, bought a car from someone 223 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,800 and then found out it was financed, 224 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,120 Graham, isn't the depressing thing about Jim Clark's death 225 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,680 so the guy didn't own the car. 226 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,600 not only that he was one of the greatest drivers 227 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,520 So I stopped the cheque 228 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,040 but also one of the safest? 229 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:25,560 Yes, it's ironic. 230 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,520 and the guy duly appeared to explain to me 231 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,200 Of course, we're not sure quite what happened 232 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,920 but it looks... The indications are that 233 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,440 how he'd like the cheque cleared, 234 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,640 it might not have... not have been his fault. 235 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,400 and produced a gun from under his sweater to show me. 236 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,800 Which is, you know, is a tragedy whichever way you look at it. 237 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,280 And I explained to him 238 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,080 Everyone realises there is danger in motor-racing. 239 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:40,520 I didn't know what he was going to do with it, you know, 240 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,880 it certainly wasn't a pain to come to some agreement 241 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,520 There is this element of chance. 242 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,920 It is something we all have to live with and face up to. 243 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,880 about something and, "if you shoot me, 244 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,720 "the cheque won't be cleared. Let's have a chat." 245 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:54,880 It is... a sport which the drivers do voluntary at their own volition. 246 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,120 So we went to the office and discussed things 247 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,280 and obviously we sorted it out. 248 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,280 I paid him...cleared off the finance 249 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,040 They realise the risk they take. 250 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,200 or said I was going to and paid him the difference. 251 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:05,280 Really, it's not up to us to... try to change that. 252 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,560 And then he become a very good customer from then on in. 253 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,080 John Cooper used to run the Cooper car company. 254 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,800 People want to climb mountains; 255 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,680 We become good friends. 256 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,760 people want to sail around the world single-handed and so on. 257 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,720 This is where we build our racing cars 258 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,240 This is just part of human endeavour. 259 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,120 and there are literally hundreds of component parts 260 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,840 that go to building a racing car. 261 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,360 Some people wish to do these things. 262 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,760 John was just a long way ahead of a lot of other people. 263 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,120 They want to push things to the limit. 264 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,360 Nobody would ever believe this sort of thing would happen to Jimmy. 265 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,360 He was the first guy, in Formula 1, to put an engine in the back end 266 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,440 of the car rather than the front, and it worked. 267 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,480 We gather here in Mexico City 268 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,760 The people with big engines 269 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,680 at the end of a very eventful season. 270 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,920 and engines in the front of the car suddenly realised 271 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,920 Jim Clark who, before he died, established himself 272 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,520 if you want to win, you'd better put the engine in the back. 273 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,240 as the greatest Grand Prix driver of all time 274 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,800 with a record of 25 victories. 275 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,720 It's been an eventful season in other ways too, 276 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,240 there's been the great controversy 277 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,680 Ferrari didn't think it was the right thing to do 278 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,040 about advertising on the cars. 279 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,760 but eventually actually did that their-self. 280 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,480 John Cooper, Grand Prix racing 281 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,040 is getting more expensive all the time, 282 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,480 what's the future for the small constructor like yourself? 283 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,280 Well, I think we're in a very very serious position at the moment 284 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,680 and I think we've got to look to people outside 285 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,360 the motor industry for support, such as cigarette companies 286 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,920 John asked me to go to Mexico with him for the race. 287 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,000 or liquor companies or something like that. 00:29:05,020 --> 00:29:07,840 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,840 That was a super place in those days. 288 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,480 The money's got to come from somewhere 289 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,800 and I think it will have to come outside, 290 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,840 come from out, outside the motor industry. 291 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,760 And then Jochen had arrived. 292 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,720 And I told him, "I've just had a massage." 293 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,600 "Why don't you do the same?" 294 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,880 Isn't there a case for making the minimum weight heavier 295 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,160 "Yes," he said, "OK." 296 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,320 And I took him down, introduced him to the lady 297 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,120 so that the cars are more solid? 298 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,160 None whatsoever because the suspension, 299 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,520 that ran this and left him there. 300 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,880 however heavy a car is, 301 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,280 And I said to Jochen, "So, it was all good? 302 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,120 the suspension has always got to be the lightest part of it 303 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,800 because this is what gives the car its road holding. 304 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,040 "Everything good?" 305 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,520 He said, "Yeah," he said, "yeah, yeah, yeah, it was... 306 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,480 "The girl said I was a naughty boy, that's all." 307 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,240 I never went into any details. 308 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,600 Colin needed a top driver in 1969. 309 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,840 And he wanted Jochen. 310 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,320 When Jochen was driving in Formula 2, 311 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:01,600 And Jochen wanted to drive there 312 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,200 he always managed to win against anyone. 313 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,600 cause Jochen wanted to win the World Championship. 314 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,200 Jochen was really really quick. 315 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,240 I explained to Jochen, "You've got a much better chance 316 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,680 "of winning the championship in a Lotus, 317 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:16,680 It's very very easy to run really fast without trying too hard. 318 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,480 "but you've also got a good chance of getting hurt, so think about it." 319 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,520 Looking at racing cars, they seem to me that they look 320 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,240 If you keep on the perfect line and you don't slide too much, 321 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,160 less and less like cars to me 322 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,160 you can go very very fast without looking fast 323 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,000 and more and more like planes with these sort of aerofoil arrangements 324 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,080 and without having a great physical effort. 325 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,200 at the back here and again at the front. 326 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,080 Now, presumably this is to keep the thing on the ground, is it? 327 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,760 The wings that we have on the car, front and rear, 328 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,760 He used to be racing the cars 329 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,120 and I used to try and do some business for us. 330 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,160 do work like an inverted aeroplane wing 331 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,160 And I used to say to him, "Don't forget you've got to collect 332 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,920 whereas the wing on an aeroplane lifts it up, 333 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,680 and ours keep it on the ground. 334 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,160 "the start money before the race." 335 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,360 Which means of course we get more grip and can corner quicker. 336 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,680 The whole thing strikes me as, if I may interrupt... 337 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,840 After the race, having had a key to our house, 338 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,160 Yes you may! 339 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,120 ..terribly dangerous. 340 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,800 he would come and wake me up 341 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,560 Who would you say is your main, your main rivals next year? 342 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,360 and we'd actually go into the kitchen, 343 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,320 My new teammate I think is going to be a bit of a threat. 344 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,400 and he'd say, "I collected the money. Here it is." 345 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,120 But that's Colin Chapman's worry as well as mine. 346 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,360 And then we played Gin Rummy. 347 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,120 We were like brothers. 348 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,160 Jackie managed to keep up with the fashion. 349 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,880 He was a little bit different to most of the guys. 350 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,480 He could have been one of the Beatles. 351 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,440 When Jochen found Nina, she was a gorgeous, 352 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,200 Jackie got in the car without having driven a single seater 353 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,640 gorgeous, gorgeous girl... 354 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,920 of any sort before, and in five laps, 355 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,720 he'd gone quicker than Bruce McLaren had been. 356 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,120 ..and they decided they ought to get married. 357 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,000 And I think from then on, we knew that Jackie had arrived. 358 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,480 I was invited along with Tuana, the girl I was with at the time, 359 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,000 Jackie had a super relationship with Ken Tyrrell. 360 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,760 on the honeymoon. 361 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,920 Which I suppose is a bit unusual. 362 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,720 They trusted each other completely and they should. 363 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,120 I think basically it's because Jochen and I could play Gin Rummy. 364 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,360 Cause Ken produced a good car for Jackie 365 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,400 and Jackie did the job in the car. 366 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,440 Right, can we do... If we can do these two first, 367 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,760 the two quarters, half an inch. 368 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,440 And we can adjust the throttle one half. 369 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,800 So I can get right down here, out the way. 370 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,160 Jim Clark was quick in whatever he drove. 371 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,840 And could turn it on whenever he had to. 372 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,600 Well, I really got into motor-racing accidentally almost. 373 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,040 I had always had an interest in cars and in speed 374 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,440 and in motor-racing but never did I ever in my wildest dreams 375 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,240 expect ever to become a professional racing driver. 376 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,800 As a driver I think Jim Clark, I think he's good. 377 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,240 But he's a very good sheep farmer too. 378 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,360 One of the reasons I think he's good is that umm... 379 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,760 ..he keeps winning, which I find a bit irritating. 380 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,760 It really wasn't a case of Colin not knowing what to do. 381 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,760 It was sometimes he would sort of go to the limit 382 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,720 and then maybe a little bit over. 383 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,250 00:33:12.480 -- 00:33:14.880 If you have a wish free... 384 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,400 That you would stop racing. 385 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,600 Colin and Jochen were staying in the same hotel 386 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,880 with rooms next door to each other. 387 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,520 And they had a discussion about the car 388 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,520 and Jochen was a bit upset, 389 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,920 and so Colin called me and said, "Tell him, this." 390 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,920 And I'd say this to... I'd call Jochen and tell him. 391 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,240 And he'd say, "Well you can... you can tell him this as well." 392 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,640 So I'd have to go back to Colin again 393 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,280 and this went on for quite a time. 394 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,120 They wouldn't talk to each other. 395 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,600 October reminds me very much of when we used to race at Watkins Glen. 396 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,600 All the leaves change a different colour, 397 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,280 and it looks if you're in a completely different world. 398 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,400 The first of everything is special and you remember it. 399 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,480 I was not only pleased that was his first win, 400 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,360 but I was pleased that he'd beat Jackie 401 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,240 because it was always between the two of them who was the best. 402 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,480 Into the hairpin, there they go, 403 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,600 and Brabham's gone straight on and Rindt. 404 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,360 Jochen Rindt, for Lotus, wins the Monaco GP. 405 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,600 I was following him into the last left, 406 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,640 and it just overcooked the last braking for the last corner, 407 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,160 and he went straight, and I went around the corner and I won it. 408 00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:50,640 I can't believe it myself. 409 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:55,120 1970 was one of those magic years really, for everyone. 410 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,000 Things just didn't go wrong. 411 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,840 It was just a good year. 412 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,880 Unbelievable. 413 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,280 Rindt wins the race from Brabham on the last corner, 414 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,400 exactly as he did in Monte-Carlo. 415 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:44,640 One minute to go. 416 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:45,920 One minute, engines starting, 417 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,240 ready to move forward onto the final grid. 418 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,080 Jochen Rindt at the top. 419 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,280 Is it simply a matter of making a lot of money 420 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,600 and then getting out of the business? 421 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,360 Well, it surely helps to make a lot of money, 422 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,040 and in my case, I was quite well off anyway, before I started. 423 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,280 I mean, I'm better off now through racing 424 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,920 but it wasn't money why I started racing. 425 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,120 Could I ask what you might earn now 426 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,680 as one of the top drivers in the world? 427 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,280 Enough. 428 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,080 I'd actually been staying with Jochen and Nina 429 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,360 in their house in Switzerland. 430 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,360 We'd met an Austrian sponsor, which was all a little bit hectic 431 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,640 trying to extract the right amount of money from him. 432 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:32,160 In the end he agreed and we drove together to Monza. 433 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,840 Those wives were completely different to the wives today. 434 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,040 They used to look after the timekeeping. 435 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,400 So they were all part of a Formula 1 team. 436 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,640 They wasn't there for a holiday or enjoyment. 437 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,240 They were there working. 438 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,120 An essential part of it. 439 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,240 During that practice session, we were waiting for Jochen 440 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,680 to come round and then somebody said to me 441 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,720 that he'd had an accident. 442 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,680 So I rushed down to exactly where the accident happened. 443 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,680 And I collected his helmet and walked back to the pits 444 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,440 to find out what was going to happen to Jochen 445 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,000 and where they were... where they were going to take him 446 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,800 and how bad he was or whatever. 447 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,040 And I found out that he'd been put in 448 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,040 Volkswagen Kombi sort of thing. 449 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,680 What people I suppose want to describe as an ambulance. 450 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,080 There's nothing anyone could do. 451 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,160 When they got him to the hospital, it was too late. 452 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,160 And he was dead then. 453 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,480 People blamed the fact that it was a Lotus. 454 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,160 You always think it's not going to happen to me. 455 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,920 People want to win and want to get in the best machinery. 456 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,480 In the name of the father, 457 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,560 and of the son, and of the holy ghost. 458 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,200 Dear friends, dear family, 459 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,880 once the sad news of Monza had arrived at our consciousness, 460 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,520 we realised how the family Rindt, 461 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,560 Mrs. Rindt and her little daughter, 462 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:11,160 were thrown into a most terrible fate. 463 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,640 Apparently, I was at Jochen's funeral, 464 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:23,440 though I don't quite remember it. 465 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,840 To die doing something that you love to do, 466 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,720 is to die happy. 467 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,640 Regardless what happens 468 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:54,920 in the remaining Grand Prixs this year, 469 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,520 to all of us, Jochen is the world champion. 470 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,840 Jochen was the world champion in the end of the season. 471 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,040 Better he wasn't world champion, he would have been still with us. 472 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:15,520 Earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust. 473 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,320 Although Jochen's death was a big big loss to me, 474 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,520 it wasn't going to finish me in Formula 1. 475 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,280 Captioned by Ai-Media ai-media.tv 39712

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