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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,089 --> 00:00:03,491 I came to Midnight Express in a most peculiar way. 2 00:00:04,859 --> 00:00:10,231 I'd been invited to New York in '76 to see the stage show of The Wiz. 3 00:00:10,398 --> 00:00:12,600 They wanted to make it into a movie. It was U niversal . 4 00:00:12,767 --> 00:00:15,670 I didn't like it, and so I had lunch with the Universal guys... 5 00:00:15,837 --> 00:00:18,006 ...and kind of said no, and walking back from lunch ... 6 00:00:18,172 --> 00:00:21,543 ...I was walking down Fifth Avenue, walked past the Columbia building ... 7 00:00:21,709 --> 00:00:23,845 ...and Peter Guber was coming out, and he said : 8 00:00:24,012 --> 00:00:28,049 "I've got something for you ." And he went back upstairs... 9 00:00:28,216 --> 00:00:32,887 ...and he gave me the galley proofs of Midnight Express. . . 10 00:00:33,054 --> 00:00:37,225 ...the book that Billy Hayes had written with William Hoffer. 11 00:00:37,392 --> 00:00:39,827 And he said , "Could you read it?" 12 00:00:39,994 --> 00:00:42,363 So I read it on the way back, on a plane. 13 00:00:42,530 --> 00:00:45,166 I talked about it with my then-producer, AIan Marshall ... 14 00:00:45,333 --> 00:00:47,402 ...who had done most of my work till then . 15 00:00:47,569 --> 00:00:50,305 AIso, I'd spoke to David Puttnam , who I'd worked with also. 16 00:00:50,471 --> 00:00:53,107 David Puttnam was about to go into business with Guber... 17 00:00:53,274 --> 00:00:55,543 ...quite coincidentally. 18 00:00:55,710 --> 00:00:58,346 So I said , "Well , if you're gonna take the job at Casablanca--" 19 00:00:58,513 --> 00:01:02,283 Which was Guber's company. "--then I'Il do the film ." 20 00:01:02,450 --> 00:01:05,687 And suddenly, all three of us were involved , which was terrific... 21 00:01:05,853 --> 00:01:08,656 ...because we'd worked so successfully in the past. 22 00:01:12,460 --> 00:01:14,596 What happened with the script was that... 23 00:01:14,762 --> 00:01:18,366 ...up to that point, I had written most of everything that I'd directed . 24 00:01:18,533 --> 00:01:23,671 So, you know, it was-- I was used to doing my own screenplays. 25 00:01:23,838 --> 00:01:27,875 I went to L.A. and Guber introduced me to this young man called OIiver Stone... 26 00:01:28,042 --> 00:01:31,713 ...who had not any film credits at that time... 27 00:01:31,879 --> 00:01:34,282 ...although he had written a couple of very good scripts. 28 00:01:34,449 --> 00:01:36,050 Peter Guber had found OIiver. 29 00:01:37,852 --> 00:01:40,355 I think had read Platoon... 30 00:01:40,521 --> 00:01:45,960 ...and liked Platoon and given OIiver the shot to do his fir-- 31 00:01:46,127 --> 00:01:48,096 I think, his first commissioned screenplay. 32 00:01:48,262 --> 00:01:50,598 They flew me to New York, to the Mayflower Hotel ... 33 00:01:50,765 --> 00:01:52,100 ...where OIiver Stone was staying . 34 00:01:53,468 --> 00:01:57,305 He was a screenwriter they hired to adapt Midnight Express into the script. 35 00:01:57,472 --> 00:02:00,608 I didn't know him. He didn't have credits on much at all . 36 00:02:00,775 --> 00:02:05,079 While we-- We sat in a room for, I think, about a week. 37 00:02:06,447 --> 00:02:09,417 If you know OIiver, he has an immense amount of energy. 38 00:02:09,584 --> 00:02:11,519 Back 30 years ago, he had even more. 39 00:02:11,686 --> 00:02:16,858 So it's Iike being in a room with-- I n a washing machine, non-stop going . 40 00:02:17,025 --> 00:02:19,827 I Iove it. For me, I just-- I Iove that kind of person . 41 00:02:19,994 --> 00:02:24,265 And he's a brilliant guy, and he was fiery about this project. 42 00:02:24,432 --> 00:02:27,335 I interviewed Billy Hayes in New York for several days... 43 00:02:28,703 --> 00:02:31,973 ...and we talked in a hotel , and I asked him every specific question I could ... 44 00:02:32,140 --> 00:02:36,377 ...and I got-- And he had written a book also. Was writing one. 45 00:02:36,544 --> 00:02:38,046 So... 46 00:02:38,913 --> 00:02:42,817 ...when I went to England to write this, I was charged . 47 00:02:42,984 --> 00:02:45,486 It was decided that he would come to London ... 48 00:02:45,653 --> 00:02:50,558 ...and he would begin writing the screenplay of Midnight Express... 49 00:02:50,725 --> 00:02:52,760 ...which he, in fact, did ... 50 00:02:52,927 --> 00:02:55,196 ...in the back office of our commercials company. 51 00:02:55,363 --> 00:02:58,232 A Iittle office we had in Soho, in London . 52 00:02:58,399 --> 00:03:02,570 He came over and wrote it with AIan . 53 00:03:03,938 --> 00:03:08,009 I mean , more OIiver than AIan , but, obviously, he would call in Alan ... 54 00:03:08,176 --> 00:03:11,312 ...and they would discuss it each evening ... 55 00:03:11,479 --> 00:03:13,448 ...and then OIiver would come in the next day... 56 00:03:13,614 --> 00:03:18,119 ...and he would sit at a desk, and he'd write for, Iike, seven hours... 57 00:03:19,153 --> 00:03:20,188 ...at a time. 58 00:03:20,354 --> 00:03:23,558 I believe still that the screenplay, the first draught... 59 00:03:23,725 --> 00:03:27,228 ...should be written in a burst of the energy in which you see the movie... 60 00:03:27,395 --> 00:03:31,833 ...which is a two-hour time Iimit. It's got a clock on it. 61 00:03:31,999 --> 00:03:34,335 And I think that if-- I try to write it in six weeks... 62 00:03:34,502 --> 00:03:37,672 ...and I wrote the first draught in six weeks, actually, to the day. 63 00:03:37,839 --> 00:03:39,841 But, of course, with AIan , he was pretty tough ... 64 00:03:40,007 --> 00:03:42,210 ...and I was a young , struggling screenwriter... 65 00:03:42,376 --> 00:03:44,378 ...and he was an established d irector at that time. 66 00:03:44,545 --> 00:03:47,081 So I had-- He made me work in the back of his office... 67 00:03:47,248 --> 00:03:51,819 ...which Iooked Iike a Dickens-- Charles Dickens' Scrooge office with no light. 68 00:03:51,986 --> 00:03:54,122 To be quite honest, I think most of us thought: 69 00:03:54,288 --> 00:03:56,591 "Well , Iet him write the first draught"... 70 00:03:56,758 --> 00:03:59,393 ...and then I would get on and write the screenplay. 71 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,629 That really was, basically, what we were thinking . 72 00:04:01,796 --> 00:04:04,499 And that was the kind of working assumption for about three months. 73 00:04:04,665 --> 00:04:06,601 Then the moment I absolutely remember... 74 00:04:06,768 --> 00:04:09,470 ...is that OIiver delivered to me and AIan simultaneously-- 75 00:04:09,637 --> 00:04:11,139 And probably AIan Marshall . 76 00:04:11,305 --> 00:04:12,840 --His first draught. 77 00:04:13,007 --> 00:04:15,576 And I sat in my office-- 78 00:04:15,743 --> 00:04:19,013 I was in-- My office was in Soho Square at the time. 79 00:04:19,180 --> 00:04:20,715 --And sat down and read it. 80 00:04:20,882 --> 00:04:23,217 Literally, in a sitting . It was a real page-turner. 81 00:04:23,384 --> 00:04:27,255 It was a wonderfully, energetically written script. 82 00:04:27,421 --> 00:04:30,124 And thinking , "Jesus, this is actually very good . 83 00:04:30,291 --> 00:04:32,693 He's very, very good . This is very, very, very good ." 84 00:04:32,860 --> 00:04:36,230 And at the end of it, I picked up the phone to Alan , and I got through ... 85 00:04:36,397 --> 00:04:39,700 ...and he said , " I know, I know, I know. I know what you're gonna say. 86 00:04:39,867 --> 00:04:42,136 It's great, isn't it?" I said , "Yes, it's great." 87 00:04:42,303 --> 00:04:43,571 We all kind of read it-- 88 00:04:43,738 --> 00:04:47,308 AIan Marshall , David Puttnam and myself-- within a space of five minutes. 89 00:04:47,475 --> 00:04:51,679 You know, we all called one another, and it was a terrific script, actually. 90 00:04:51,846 --> 00:04:54,782 The first time I read the script, I couldn't put it down . 91 00:04:54,949 --> 00:04:57,051 It was a magnificent script. 92 00:04:57,218 --> 00:05:01,455 You know, it was heavy... 93 00:05:01,622 --> 00:05:05,693 ...but it was certainly a page-turner. 94 00:05:05,860 --> 00:05:09,163 The screenplay had a volatile energy. Really had a dynam-- 95 00:05:09,330 --> 00:05:12,900 It was, Iike, a new energy at that time. It was more rougher, it was rawer... 96 00:05:13,067 --> 00:05:15,770 ...and vital . 97 00:05:15,937 --> 00:05:17,004 It was angry too. 98 00:05:17,171 --> 00:05:22,643 It was angry about, at that time, what I perceived to be a system of injustice... 99 00:05:22,810 --> 00:05:24,979 ...not just in Turkey, but everywhere in the world . 100 00:05:25,146 --> 00:05:26,814 But Turkey did stand in for me... 101 00:05:26,981 --> 00:05:30,017 ...in my passionate heart, for the rest of the world . 102 00:05:30,184 --> 00:05:32,186 The original screenplay... 103 00:05:33,287 --> 00:05:35,122 ...was in a number of different prisons. 104 00:05:35,289 --> 00:05:38,559 It followed , quite closely, the book. 105 00:05:38,759 --> 00:05:41,562 And the first changes that were made from the notes... 106 00:05:41,729 --> 00:05:46,133 ...that came from me and from the studio and from Guber and Puttnam ... 107 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:49,503 ...were really to conflate the prisons. Make the prison one prison . 108 00:05:49,670 --> 00:05:52,773 Because, by going to this island prison , and then he-- 109 00:05:52,940 --> 00:05:55,509 I n the original screenplay, he swam to a fishing boat... 110 00:05:55,676 --> 00:05:57,612 ...and that's how he escapes. 111 00:05:57,778 --> 00:05:59,714 It Iet off the pressure cooker by-- 112 00:05:59,881 --> 00:06:01,649 And most of the characters that you created-- 113 00:06:01,816 --> 00:06:05,319 Hamidou , the prison guard , and Max, John Hurt character. 114 00:06:05,486 --> 00:06:07,255 --Were suddenly not there in our story. 115 00:06:07,421 --> 00:06:09,423 So we kept it all in the same prison . 116 00:06:09,590 --> 00:06:12,493 And that was the big change into the second draught. 117 00:06:12,660 --> 00:06:14,095 AIthough it was a cracking script... 118 00:06:14,262 --> 00:06:19,066 ...there were fundamental things that we wanted to adjust and change. 119 00:06:20,368 --> 00:06:22,303 But there were two more draughts. 120 00:06:22,470 --> 00:06:25,273 And a number of things were changed whilst we were filming . 121 00:06:25,439 --> 00:06:28,676 It was quite organic. It gradually changed , little bit by Iittle. 122 00:06:28,843 --> 00:06:32,947 And we started shooting in September of '77. 123 00:06:36,651 --> 00:06:39,553 The studio were very, very keen on Richard Gere in particular. 124 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,224 He just had a very successful movie, I think called Bloodbrothers. 125 00:06:43,391 --> 00:06:46,560 But it-- It had been very good , and he'd got terrific reviews. 126 00:06:46,727 --> 00:06:48,629 And a whole series of meetings occurred ... 127 00:06:48,796 --> 00:06:51,666 ...between AIan Parker and Richard that I set up. 128 00:06:51,832 --> 00:06:56,470 I met with Richard Gere about twice, and I wanted him to read the part. 129 00:06:56,637 --> 00:06:58,806 He refused to read . He didn't wanna read . 130 00:06:58,973 --> 00:07:02,043 There was kind of a Iine that if you were a young actor who had made it... 131 00:07:02,209 --> 00:07:04,946 ...you don't have to read anymore. He didn't Iike doing cold readings. 132 00:07:05,112 --> 00:07:08,049 So I couldn't commit to him , he didn't commit to us at that moment in time. 133 00:07:08,215 --> 00:07:12,186 We'd also cast and screen-tested a number of people... 134 00:07:12,353 --> 00:07:14,922 ...and that included Sam Bottoms, who was very good ... 135 00:07:15,089 --> 00:07:17,425 ...Dennis Quaid , and Brad Davis. 136 00:07:17,591 --> 00:07:21,162 I had seen Brad Davis. He'd come in Iate one day. 137 00:07:21,329 --> 00:07:24,298 He knocked at my door two hours after he should have been there... 138 00:07:24,465 --> 00:07:27,568 ...at the end of the day. He was completely covered in grease. 139 00:07:27,735 --> 00:07:32,807 H is VW had broken down on the way from his home in North Hollywood ... 140 00:07:32,974 --> 00:07:34,542 ...and he read ... 141 00:07:34,709 --> 00:07:37,144 ...and I was always impressed by him . 142 00:07:37,311 --> 00:07:42,316 I mean , he had such passion for the piece, and he was very vulnerable... 143 00:07:42,483 --> 00:07:45,453 ...almost like a wou nded animal , really... 144 00:07:45,619 --> 00:07:49,090 ...and so keen and so anxious to play the part. 145 00:07:49,256 --> 00:07:53,194 It's fantastic for a director to have somebody who wanted to do that badly. 146 00:07:53,361 --> 00:07:56,564 Brad Davis was an unusual fella. 147 00:07:56,731 --> 00:07:58,232 He was made for that role, you know. 148 00:07:58,399 --> 00:08:01,569 I've seen so many people that have come along , and then one role-- 149 00:08:01,736 --> 00:08:03,270 And that's the role of their Iife. 150 00:08:04,638 --> 00:08:07,108 It's the 1 5th picture they've done, or the 1 0th , or the sixth . 151 00:08:07,274 --> 00:08:10,344 That was the first real one he did , and that was it. 152 00:08:10,511 --> 00:08:12,279 It was another scary element for the studio... 153 00:08:12,446 --> 00:08:15,049 ...because they eventually went with an unknown ... 154 00:08:15,216 --> 00:08:18,185 ...and when you have, almost, a first-time studio director-- 155 00:08:18,352 --> 00:08:21,489 That was the first studio film he did . He did a Iittle independent film. 156 00:08:21,655 --> 00:08:23,324 --And a first-time screenwriter... 157 00:08:23,491 --> 00:08:25,693 ...now a first-time actor... 158 00:08:25,860 --> 00:08:30,031 And then there was a problem of selling Brad Davis. 159 00:08:30,197 --> 00:08:32,633 And for some extraordinary reason ... 160 00:08:33,934 --> 00:08:37,304 ...Dan Melnick, and particularly David Begelman-- 161 00:08:37,471 --> 00:08:39,073 This is while Begelman was still there... 162 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,977 ...before Begelman was forced to step down from the studio. 163 00:08:43,144 --> 00:08:46,847 --Got this obsession that Brad had-- Was cross-eyed . 164 00:08:47,014 --> 00:08:50,251 It was an absolutely extraordinary series of conversations. 165 00:08:50,418 --> 00:08:53,421 "The kid's cross-eyed , he's not attractive enough ," et cetera, et cetera. 166 00:08:53,587 --> 00:08:58,292 I Iiterally had to go to an optician to have Brad's eyes tested ... 167 00:08:58,459 --> 00:09:02,463 ...and a Ietter from the optician saying in no way at all was he suffering ... 168 00:09:02,630 --> 00:09:06,967 ...from any form of astigmatism or anything else. We took that back. 169 00:09:07,134 --> 00:09:09,470 And I got on with the rest of the casting ... 170 00:09:09,637 --> 00:09:11,839 ...in Los Angeles and New York... 171 00:09:12,006 --> 00:09:14,375 ...mostly for the American parts. 172 00:09:14,542 --> 00:09:18,679 Randy Quaid , obviously, I met here in Los Angeles. 173 00:09:18,846 --> 00:09:21,048 John H urt was one of the first people we cast... 174 00:09:21,215 --> 00:09:22,983 ...who plays Max-- I've met in London . 175 00:09:23,150 --> 00:09:25,786 --And he really wanted to do the film , and that was easy. 176 00:09:25,953 --> 00:09:29,657 John H urt was a very early and very easy decision . 177 00:09:29,824 --> 00:09:32,960 I remember that I had the job of-- A happy job of persuading him . 178 00:09:33,127 --> 00:09:35,096 And he said this, so I can . 179 00:09:35,262 --> 00:09:38,065 He says that I sat down with him and said : 180 00:09:38,499 --> 00:09:41,469 "John , how would you Iike to be nominated for an Academy Award?" 181 00:09:41,635 --> 00:09:44,371 And he said , "What?" I said , "If you do this, you will be." 182 00:09:44,538 --> 00:09:46,640 And he was, so that was nice. 183 00:09:46,807 --> 00:09:49,310 But it was an obvious stand-out part for him . 184 00:09:49,477 --> 00:09:51,645 He was perfect. And he-- I think he loved it. 185 00:09:51,812 --> 00:09:53,547 How it came about, to start with ... 186 00:09:54,915 --> 00:09:57,451 I was approached by David Puttnam . 187 00:09:57,618 --> 00:10:00,988 And he said there's a film that I might be interested in doing . 188 00:10:01,155 --> 00:10:02,857 I said , "Oh , really? What's that?" 189 00:10:03,023 --> 00:10:06,827 I said , "Who's gonna be directing?" And he said , "AIan Parker." 190 00:10:06,994 --> 00:10:10,464 And I said-- I mmediately, I said , " I'II do it." 191 00:10:10,831 --> 00:10:13,701 He said , "What do you mean? You don't want to see the script?" 192 00:10:13,868 --> 00:10:16,804 "No, no, no." I said-- I'd just seen some shorts by AIan Parker... 193 00:10:16,971 --> 00:10:20,574 ...because I was part and parcel of producing a film ... 194 00:10:20,741 --> 00:10:23,677 ...called Little Malcolm and His Struggle Against the Eunuchs... 195 00:10:23,844 --> 00:10:25,679 ...which turned out to be handmade film . 196 00:10:25,846 --> 00:10:28,149 It was done by George Harrison . 197 00:10:28,315 --> 00:10:31,852 And I'd seen these three Iittle... 198 00:10:32,019 --> 00:10:33,320 ...films made by AIan ... 199 00:10:33,487 --> 00:10:36,423 ...which , I think, they were all to do with the Blitz in London . 200 00:10:36,590 --> 00:10:38,526 And they were fabulous. 201 00:10:38,692 --> 00:10:41,996 And I just said , "Well . . . ." At that stage, I said , "No. 202 00:10:42,163 --> 00:10:43,564 If it's him , I want to do it." 203 00:10:43,731 --> 00:10:46,400 I figured that there's-- He wouldn't want me to do it... 204 00:10:46,567 --> 00:10:49,170 ...if there wasn't anything-- If it wasn't worth doing . 205 00:10:49,336 --> 00:10:52,773 If it wasn't something to get your teeth into, and I was dead right. 206 00:10:52,940 --> 00:10:55,643 But it surprised Puttnam . 207 00:10:55,809 --> 00:11:00,514 And it's the only time I've ever done a film which is sight unseen . 208 00:11:00,681 --> 00:11:04,585 He came in with a beautiful drawing he made of the character, Max. 209 00:11:04,752 --> 00:11:07,421 How he thought he should look, including broken glasses... 210 00:11:07,588 --> 00:11:12,760 ...with Band-Aids on the broken glass, and his whole look, actually, was-- 211 00:11:12,927 --> 00:11:15,062 He'd already figured out how he wanted to Iook. 212 00:11:15,229 --> 00:11:17,531 It's exactly how he looked in the film , in fact. 213 00:11:21,368 --> 00:11:25,005 The first screenplay was early part of '77. 214 00:11:25,172 --> 00:11:27,708 I think in , like, spring . April . 215 00:11:27,875 --> 00:11:30,644 I then started casting and Iooking for Iocations. 216 00:11:30,811 --> 00:11:34,715 We went to five countries in Europe to look for where we might set the film . 217 00:11:34,882 --> 00:11:38,452 We couldn't make the film , for obvious reasons, in Turkey. 218 00:11:38,619 --> 00:11:40,955 I n fact, it was quite dangerous for us to go there. 219 00:11:41,121 --> 00:11:43,591 Even for us to go and recce, which we did do. 220 00:11:43,757 --> 00:11:45,926 We had to find a prison ... 221 00:11:46,260 --> 00:11:50,164 ...because we-- Or a Iocation ... 222 00:11:50,331 --> 00:11:53,534 ...that gave us this mediaeval feeling . 223 00:11:53,701 --> 00:11:57,271 I n all honesty, we went to Istanbul ... 224 00:11:57,438 --> 00:12:01,008 ...and saw the real prison , Sagmalcilar... 225 00:12:01,175 --> 00:12:05,613 ...which is actually much more a German blockhouse. 226 00:12:05,779 --> 00:12:08,215 We were originally, from memory, Iooking at-- 227 00:12:08,382 --> 00:12:12,519 We Iooked at a number of countries. Yugoslavia we looked at. 228 00:12:12,686 --> 00:12:14,355 Israel , at one point. 229 00:12:14,521 --> 00:12:18,425 But everywhere we went, the Turkish authorities who got wind of the script... 230 00:12:18,592 --> 00:12:21,362 ...got there ahead of us and managed to do a very good job-- 231 00:12:21,528 --> 00:12:22,963 Italy, we were gonna shoot in . 232 00:12:23,130 --> 00:12:25,599 --Of making sure that permissions were withdrawn . 233 00:12:25,766 --> 00:12:28,636 We ended up in Malta because it was run by an extraordinary... 234 00:12:28,802 --> 00:12:30,537 ...eccentric man called Dom M intoff... 235 00:12:30,704 --> 00:12:33,274 ...who wasn't gonna be told by the Turks about anything . 236 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,175 We were remarkably welcome in Malta... 237 00:12:35,342 --> 00:12:37,778 ...whereas we'd been literally... 238 00:12:38,012 --> 00:12:41,548 ...kind of eased off from our first-- I think our first three Iocations. 239 00:12:41,715 --> 00:12:44,051 And although ... 240 00:12:44,752 --> 00:12:49,523 ...having been to Istanbul , it didn't Iook absolutely Istanbul ... 241 00:12:49,690 --> 00:12:54,261 ...it had that period feel ... 242 00:12:54,428 --> 00:12:57,765 ...that Istanbul has... 243 00:12:57,931 --> 00:13:00,301 ...and I found ... 244 00:13:00,701 --> 00:13:03,704 ...this yard , which was actually... 245 00:13:03,871 --> 00:13:08,909 ...a British Army storage facility. 246 00:13:09,076 --> 00:13:12,046 I called up, and I said to Alan and Geoffrey: 247 00:13:12,212 --> 00:13:13,514 "Get on a plane. 248 00:13:13,681 --> 00:13:17,051 Come over here and have a Iook at this, and see what you think." 249 00:13:17,217 --> 00:13:19,720 It was, architecturally, qu ite interesting . 250 00:13:19,887 --> 00:13:23,190 It's kind of dusty, and it was made of this wonderful ... 251 00:13:23,357 --> 00:13:27,161 ...dirty, old , honey-coloured Iimestone. And it was-- 252 00:13:27,328 --> 00:13:29,163 It had seen better days. 253 00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:31,131 It was rather shabby, and it was empty. 254 00:13:31,298 --> 00:13:35,536 It was Iike a gigantic film studio that was ours. 255 00:13:35,703 --> 00:13:38,839 And so I thought, "Well , this is a great space... 256 00:13:39,006 --> 00:13:41,375 ...in which to base the whole piece." 257 00:13:41,542 --> 00:13:46,380 On the other hand , it didn't actually have a big open area, or kogus... 258 00:13:46,547 --> 00:13:48,949 ...where a lot of the scenes had been written for... 259 00:13:49,116 --> 00:13:52,820 ...and so we decided to build our own kogus... 260 00:13:52,986 --> 00:13:56,457 ...which we bu ilt with real Iimestone, intact... 261 00:13:56,623 --> 00:13:59,626 ...in the corner of the courtyard of this fort. 262 00:13:59,793 --> 00:14:02,296 Geoffrey designed this building that-- 263 00:14:02,463 --> 00:14:08,569 He actually put a whole front onto an existing rear... 264 00:14:08,736 --> 00:14:13,307 ...so some of the Iittle cells and things were all in the original ... 265 00:14:13,474 --> 00:14:15,409 ...and then he built... 266 00:14:15,576 --> 00:14:17,211 ...the wash areas... 267 00:14:17,378 --> 00:14:20,714 ...and some other cells, and moulded them in perfectly... 268 00:14:20,881 --> 00:14:23,417 ...so it became like a real prison . 269 00:14:23,917 --> 00:14:27,087 We built that, and it gave me staircases... 270 00:14:27,254 --> 00:14:29,957 ...and also the convenience to be able to shoot, really... 271 00:14:30,124 --> 00:14:32,126 ...and the whole crew could be in there. 272 00:14:32,292 --> 00:14:36,997 It was a film set, really, and yet, it was made with real materials. 273 00:14:37,164 --> 00:14:39,733 The cell block... 274 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:42,736 ...that Hamidou comes down when he walks down the stairs... 275 00:14:42,903 --> 00:14:47,608 ...and beats Billy on the back with the baton ... 276 00:14:47,775 --> 00:14:49,576 ...that was all there. 277 00:14:49,743 --> 00:14:53,280 It was-- Geoffrey obviously put in the iron ... 278 00:14:53,447 --> 00:14:56,683 ...the metal bars and stuff Iike that for pulling him u p... 279 00:14:57,351 --> 00:14:59,286 ...by his feet and stuff like that... 280 00:14:59,453 --> 00:15:03,457 ...but the actual Iocations, even when they go down into the-- 281 00:15:03,624 --> 00:15:07,227 Down the well , that is a real well . 282 00:15:07,394 --> 00:15:10,964 We shot that for real . I nto the water, we shot that for real . 283 00:15:11,131 --> 00:15:13,834 It was an amazing find . 284 00:15:14,001 --> 00:15:17,538 When I first step onto the set at Malta, I was overwhelmed ... 285 00:15:17,704 --> 00:15:21,742 ...by the reality, for me, of, again , the Turkish guards with the uniforms... 286 00:15:21,909 --> 00:15:25,579 ...and the kids running around , and the dogs, and-- 287 00:15:26,046 --> 00:15:30,584 While it wasn't my particular prison , it was Istanbul , in a way. 288 00:15:30,751 --> 00:15:35,222 It was other prisons that I had been in and seen and so on . 289 00:15:35,389 --> 00:15:38,892 I didn't particularly Iike sitting on the bunk... 290 00:15:39,059 --> 00:15:41,295 ...in my cell , as it were. 291 00:15:41,462 --> 00:15:44,264 That was a little too close. That was a little weird . 292 00:15:44,431 --> 00:15:49,136 And then we went across the road to another facility... 293 00:15:49,303 --> 00:15:52,706 ...and found the wheel that they walked around in the wr-- 294 00:15:52,873 --> 00:15:54,775 He walked around in the wrong direction . 295 00:15:54,942 --> 00:15:58,312 You must go the other way. 296 00:15:58,479 --> 00:16:01,548 The arrest and the capture was-- 297 00:16:01,715 --> 00:16:05,486 And the bus ride were all done in Malta Airport. 298 00:16:05,652 --> 00:16:06,954 We took over the airport. 299 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,791 I think we got it for two nights to shoot the scene. 300 00:16:10,958 --> 00:16:16,129 They were very good . We had good help from the Maltese government... 301 00:16:16,296 --> 00:16:22,903 ...in allowing us to, ostensibly, close down the airport. 302 00:16:23,070 --> 00:16:27,241 We just redressed it to Iook a little Iike Istanbul Airport... 303 00:16:27,407 --> 00:16:29,543 ...and shot the scenes. 304 00:16:32,813 --> 00:16:36,517 I was Iucky when I started the film . I some had familiar faces around me. 305 00:16:36,683 --> 00:16:39,887 Most importantly, of course, I had AIan Marshall and David Puttnam ... 306 00:16:40,053 --> 00:16:43,457 ...who were gonna be the hands-on producers there in Malta with me. 307 00:16:43,624 --> 00:16:45,559 Peter Guber was in Los Angeles. 308 00:16:45,726 --> 00:16:50,297 And also, I had-- AImost the entire crew... 309 00:16:50,464 --> 00:16:53,734 ...were people that I knew from making commercials... 310 00:16:53,901 --> 00:16:56,803 ...which I'd been doing for a few years before making the film. 311 00:16:56,970 --> 00:16:58,705 They'd worked with me on Bugsy Malone. 312 00:16:58,872 --> 00:17:02,676 The cinematographer, Michael Seresin , who is hugely important to me... 313 00:17:02,843 --> 00:17:04,912 ...Geoffrey Kirkland , production designer... 314 00:17:05,078 --> 00:17:07,014 ...and Gerry Hambling , the editor. 315 00:17:07,180 --> 00:17:09,082 They had all worked with me... 316 00:17:09,249 --> 00:17:12,119 ...and , in fact, went on to do many, many films with me Iater. 317 00:17:12,286 --> 00:17:16,156 So that, plus almost everybody, from the makeup and hair... 318 00:17:16,323 --> 00:17:20,627 ...to the first assistant director, had worked with me before. 319 00:17:20,794 --> 00:17:23,330 It was kind of necessary, because it was pretty hard . 320 00:17:23,497 --> 00:17:26,934 Going in , it was six-day weeks. Sometimes we did seven-day weeks. 321 00:17:27,100 --> 00:17:29,436 It was a three-week period . Nobody got a day off... 322 00:17:29,603 --> 00:17:34,808 ...which was kind of hard , particularly as it's a very dark subject... 323 00:17:34,975 --> 00:17:36,977 ...and it-- Very humid and hot... 324 00:17:37,144 --> 00:17:38,979 ...filming in a prison . 325 00:17:39,146 --> 00:17:42,749 It's not the best of things in an island , which is just really a rock... 326 00:17:42,916 --> 00:17:46,086 ...in the middle of the Mediterranean with two restaurants. 327 00:17:46,253 --> 00:17:48,989 The bar at the H ilton was the only pleasure anybody had . 328 00:17:49,156 --> 00:17:52,225 So we had Michael , and we had our operator... 329 00:17:52,392 --> 00:17:53,727 ...we had our focus pullers. 330 00:17:53,894 --> 00:17:58,265 We knew everybody on the crew, and everybody came from the U . K. 331 00:17:58,432 --> 00:18:03,537 The crew was very tight, very together. 332 00:18:03,704 --> 00:18:05,772 It really was like a family. 333 00:18:05,939 --> 00:18:09,409 And one of the things I like about making a film on an island ... 334 00:18:09,576 --> 00:18:12,579 ...is that it, particularly, some-- And I Iike Malta. 335 00:18:12,746 --> 00:18:15,682 It's big enough to be able to be separate when you need to be... 336 00:18:15,849 --> 00:18:19,319 ...but it's small enough to make everything feel very familiar... 337 00:18:19,486 --> 00:18:22,356 ...you know? And ... 338 00:18:22,589 --> 00:18:26,460 So therefore-- And everybody, everybody in the crew... 339 00:18:26,627 --> 00:18:29,896 ...to the humblest carpenter... 340 00:18:30,063 --> 00:18:31,565 ...was involved . 341 00:18:31,732 --> 00:18:33,767 Everybody was involved in it. 342 00:18:33,934 --> 00:18:35,969 And that was a great deal to do with Alan . 343 00:18:36,136 --> 00:18:39,206 And Alan Marshall as well , you know. 344 00:18:39,373 --> 00:18:42,676 They were very... 345 00:18:44,077 --> 00:18:45,979 Brought everybody together. 346 00:18:46,146 --> 00:18:50,717 That was what the Friday-evening party was all about, really. 347 00:18:50,884 --> 00:18:54,021 And everyone was invited . Everybody went up to Alan's place. 348 00:18:54,187 --> 00:18:57,090 And they're there till dawn . 349 00:18:57,257 --> 00:19:00,427 Dancing . We danced and we danced and we sang and we danced ... 350 00:19:00,594 --> 00:19:03,964 ...and we drank, and we had a fantastic time. 351 00:19:07,668 --> 00:19:12,005 Biggest challenge was, it was a depressing film to make. 352 00:19:12,172 --> 00:19:13,940 You know, we were shooting in a prison . 353 00:19:14,107 --> 00:19:18,745 And going to work there everyday I found awful , actually. 354 00:19:18,912 --> 00:19:21,581 And we-- There was a kind of cu mulative depression ... 355 00:19:21,748 --> 00:19:26,319 ...that seem to build itself up, and it was very, very hard . 356 00:19:26,486 --> 00:19:28,989 It was a brutal movie... 357 00:19:29,156 --> 00:19:34,227 ...so, in that respect, again , another, you know... 358 00:19:34,394 --> 00:19:38,365 Sometimes the actors... 359 00:19:38,532 --> 00:19:42,636 ...got, shall I say, overzealous with their particular roles... 360 00:19:42,803 --> 00:19:44,905 ...but, you know, it-- 361 00:19:45,072 --> 00:19:46,907 Eventually, it-- 362 00:19:47,074 --> 00:19:51,344 It was a hard film ... 363 00:19:51,511 --> 00:19:54,915 ...because of the story line, because of the conditions... 364 00:19:55,082 --> 00:19:58,351 ...and it was very hot. We were working-- 365 00:19:58,518 --> 00:20:03,824 Malta gets very, very hot during the period of time that we were shooting ... 366 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:07,961 ...so we were always in the 90s, and it was pretty stifling ... 367 00:20:08,128 --> 00:20:09,896 ...in some of these areas. 368 00:20:10,330 --> 00:20:13,100 I say, "We worked Iike dogs, and we played hard ." 369 00:20:13,266 --> 00:20:15,702 Great. I mean , it was a terrific experience. 370 00:20:15,869 --> 00:20:19,339 We had absolute nightmare the first three days' rushes. 371 00:20:19,773 --> 00:20:24,044 We'd all decided the film would be underlit and be very kind of murky. 372 00:20:24,211 --> 00:20:27,347 And it so happened the first three days' rushes... 373 00:20:27,514 --> 00:20:29,082 ...were in jail sequences... 374 00:20:29,249 --> 00:20:31,251 ...and we just undercooked it... 375 00:20:31,418 --> 00:20:32,652 ...and they were too dark. 376 00:20:32,819 --> 00:20:36,022 I would say something Iike two-- 377 00:20:36,189 --> 00:20:39,059 Two of the first three days were unusable. 378 00:20:39,226 --> 00:20:40,861 And we were in the shit. 379 00:20:41,027 --> 00:20:44,064 We managed to make sure the studio never saw them . 380 00:20:44,231 --> 00:20:47,634 I , Iiterally, I'm afraid , sort of falsified production reports... 381 00:20:47,801 --> 00:20:50,704 ...to the sense that we were-- Keep going . 382 00:20:50,871 --> 00:20:55,175 And with a sort of an enormous effort on the part of the crew... 383 00:20:55,342 --> 00:20:57,477 ...by the end of the second week, we caught up. 384 00:20:57,644 --> 00:21:01,681 And the studio never knew that we had to reshoot a whole Iot of sequences. 385 00:21:02,282 --> 00:21:04,484 Now, I would argue, today, it wouldn't happen ... 386 00:21:04,651 --> 00:21:07,187 ...because they'd have the rushes immediately, on-- 387 00:21:07,354 --> 00:21:08,922 Probably online. 388 00:21:09,089 --> 00:21:12,025 Someone would be Iooking at them , and someone would be saying ... 389 00:21:12,192 --> 00:21:14,728 ...in a sheer panic, at the end of two days: 390 00:21:14,895 --> 00:21:17,164 "Get rid of the cinematographer. Fire the--" 391 00:21:17,330 --> 00:21:18,865 AII that stuff would be going on . 392 00:21:19,032 --> 00:21:22,235 I n those days, you had , at Ieast, that kind of pause in the moment... 393 00:21:22,402 --> 00:21:23,804 ...to actually correct things. 394 00:21:23,970 --> 00:21:25,972 And as a producer, I've always believed ... 395 00:21:26,139 --> 00:21:28,108 ...the first week will always be chaotic. 396 00:21:28,275 --> 00:21:29,876 It cannot not be. 397 00:21:30,043 --> 00:21:32,312 And you've only got the second week to sort it... 398 00:21:32,479 --> 00:21:36,516 ...because by the time you get into the beginning of the third week... 399 00:21:36,683 --> 00:21:39,886 ...you establish rhythms. Shooting rhythms. You establish patterns... 400 00:21:40,053 --> 00:21:42,455 ...which become almost all but impossible to break. 401 00:21:42,622 --> 00:21:46,426 So your second week, for a producer, is your moment of crisis. 402 00:21:46,593 --> 00:21:49,062 You either sort it or you bug it, really. 403 00:21:49,229 --> 00:21:50,897 And I had both . I've sorted it... 404 00:21:51,064 --> 00:21:54,301 ...and I've also had times where I haven't sorted it, and we bug it. 405 00:21:54,467 --> 00:21:58,505 And through an enormous effort of will , remarkable, actually-- 406 00:21:58,672 --> 00:22:02,209 I think we may have worked on the Saturday. Probably did . 407 00:22:02,375 --> 00:22:04,311 --In a space of five, six, seven days... 408 00:22:04,477 --> 00:22:08,248 ...we managed to catch up two full days' shooting . 409 00:22:08,849 --> 00:22:10,884 That was the closest thing to a real crisis. 410 00:22:11,051 --> 00:22:13,420 The time was very different in the mid-'70s. 411 00:22:13,587 --> 00:22:15,188 Today, you can stream the dailies. 412 00:22:15,355 --> 00:22:19,159 Today, I could be sitting in this office, Iooking at the dailies... 413 00:22:19,326 --> 00:22:23,096 ...that are coming from UIaanbaatar stream to me... 414 00:22:23,263 --> 00:22:26,733 ...and I can look at them almost through the camera. 415 00:22:27,467 --> 00:22:32,205 Back then , you had to Ioad the dailies on a horse and buggy... 416 00:22:32,372 --> 00:22:35,542 ...and you had to take them to the pier and put the sails u p... 417 00:22:35,709 --> 00:22:38,211 ...and sail them to London and get them printed . 418 00:22:38,378 --> 00:22:41,081 If you wanted them brought to the States to Iook at them ... 419 00:22:41,248 --> 00:22:44,050 ...again , another courier would have to take them by plane... 420 00:22:44,217 --> 00:22:46,486 ...and land in Los Angeles, go through customs... 421 00:22:46,653 --> 00:22:49,155 ...and by the time you got them, the film was over. 422 00:22:49,322 --> 00:22:53,126 You wanna make an adjustment? They've struck the set. The cast had-- 423 00:22:53,293 --> 00:22:55,829 Was into another movie. So it was very difficult. 424 00:22:55,996 --> 00:22:59,699 I got sacked for three days haltway through the film ... 425 00:22:59,866 --> 00:23:04,004 ...because we were sending-- We were showing rushes to the studio. 426 00:23:04,170 --> 00:23:06,740 And we sent them the scene in the shower, you know. 427 00:23:06,907 --> 00:23:09,476 When Billy turns away. 428 00:23:09,643 --> 00:23:11,945 And you know, this is 1 977. 429 00:23:12,112 --> 00:23:15,115 That was felt to be too close the knuckle and-- 430 00:23:15,282 --> 00:23:18,852 "No one wants to watch a fucking gay movie. This is crazy." 431 00:23:19,019 --> 00:23:20,687 You know, "You guys are nuts." 432 00:23:20,854 --> 00:23:22,789 And I was fired . 433 00:23:22,956 --> 00:23:25,959 Now, this was not quite as awful as it may sound . 434 00:23:26,126 --> 00:23:28,428 I'd actually had enough of Malta by this time. 435 00:23:28,595 --> 00:23:32,666 Six weeks of crappy food and depressing atmosphere. 436 00:23:32,832 --> 00:23:34,534 I was fired all the way to Rome. 437 00:23:34,701 --> 00:23:40,640 I sat in a hotel room in Rome for three days, waiting to be unfired . 39311

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