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This programme
contains very strong language,

allegations of sexual and
domestic violence that some viewers
may find upsetting

Welcome back. Johnny Depp's
defamation trial

against his ex-wife, Amber Heard,

is playing out in real-time
on television,

and on social media where millions
are poring over

the shocking details
and taking sides.

Amber, how are you feeling?

My video about this pod episode is
at almost 500,000 views

and I just posted it yesterday.

It has many facets that we have
to look at

including fame, the MeToo movement,
cancel culture.

It is just a sort of
a perfect storm, if you will.

Number one over Elon Musk,

more than four times Joe Biden,

more than five times greater,

the Ukraine war,

more than six times greater.

This story is the biggest story
online in the nation.

News anchors lined up outside
the courthouse,

numerous cameras
inside the courtroom

livestreaming every minute.

Take on a little tour,
a video of our mobile centre.

That's right.
We actually have heating,

and air conditioning sometimes
in here.

People are live tweeting,
people are live streaming,

what does it all mean,
where does it end?

It's been, you know, a social media
circus of commentary

from creatives and influencers
and lay people.

I think that the truth was lost on
social media quite some time ago.

Well, there are new concerns about

the spread of misinformation
on TikTok.

According to researchers.

American users spend three times
as much time on TikTok

than on Twitter.

Explain for us more about
the app's design

and why it is particularly
problematic.

You have a platform that uses short
videos. It has a powerful

and very mysterious
recommendation algorithm.

You've got a billion users that are
constantly filtering through

at very fast-moving speeds.

Videos can be very easily
manipulated and republished.

I'm walking out of the bedroom.

He slapped me across the face.
I said,

"Johnny, you hit me.
You just hit me."

There are parody videos that often
get mistaken as fact.

At this point we're sitting next
to each other.

People are obsessed with this case,

and on TikTok people could really
broadcast their theories.

I was just sitting there on
this carpet.

Especially when
the case is live in court,

and you have all this footage.

You could show them authentically
what is going on.

What are people posting?

Talk about Australia.

I think this might decide the case,

because this is where
the parties are alleging

the most significant dispute.

And they're in such contradiction
that the jury can only think

one of them is true.

I think they're going to come to
the conclusion

that one of them is lying
about Australia.

Let's take a look about what they
said happened.

I was working on Pirates of
the Caribbean 5.

Mr Depp, was Miss Heard in Australia
with you?

She came a little later, yes.

And what happened when Miss Heard
came to visit you in Australia?

Um...

Thank you very much.
Well, Johnny Depp is here.

I haven't seen it,
but I knew it ahead of time,

and now I see it that you're wearing
a, you have an engagement ring.

I do. I have a female engagement
ring on.

Yeah. But you're getting married?

Well, yeah.

Yeah. But it's not typical for a man
to wear an engagement ring, is it?

No. It was too big for my girl.
So, uh...

So, the woman you're,
who's been on the show, by the way.

Amber, yeah. Oh, lovely.

Amber, Amber! Big smile, Amber!

I proposed to Miss Heard
a couple of years before, I believe.

So we talked occasionally about
when we would be the right time

between schedules so that we could
actually have

a wedding and a honeymoon.

And then go on to do
the work in Australia.

I was marrying the love of my life.

It was complicated.

But he was the love of my life.

Ladies and gentlemen, Johnny Depp!

We all left for the island for the,
well, the dream wedding, I guess.

We walked down to the beach aisle,
said our vows,

and shot the bird,
meaning the middle finger,

up at the paparazzi while we were
on the altar.

And we danced and celebrated.

And then I left the island
cos I had to go work.

Amber Heard is 20 years younger

and was building a career,

and name recognition
within Hollywood,

but she was certainly nowhere near
the star that Johnny Depp was.

Hi, we're here with Amber Heard
and explain quickly your character.

I play a young girl who's caught up
in the fast-paced,

decadent,
1980s lifestyle of Los Angeles.

And uh, and her,

she's a beautiful woman
who ultimately,

ultimately that beauty
causes her demise

and the demise of other characters
around her,

and it was an interesting part.

I took the bus around LA.
It was before smartphones,

I had a Thomas Guide
and a change of tank tops.

And I just hustled from one audition
to the other.

Amber, right here.

It's been a slow progression,
I guess, since then.

You know, of doing either tiny bit
parts in bigger movies

or doing larger roles in movies
that no-one would see.

And I guess, you know,
it still is kind of like that.

When you say you left the island,
you had to go to work,

what were you working on?

I was filming the Danish Girl
in London.

I was there doing kind of prep work
for that film.

I was going off to Australia.

The plan was always for me
to wrap on my movie

and then come and join him
in Australia

where he was filming Pirates 5.

OK, and when approximately
was that?

That was March 3rd.

Guys, I am shocked at
the massive amounts of love

and support you guys have been
showing this channel.

And specially our coverage of

the "Justice for
Johnny Depp" movement.

Welcome back to another episode
of Darthn3ws,

special edition,
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All of a sudden, they're pumping
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Hey, there, if we haven't met yet,

I'm Emily D Baker,
the badass lawyer

and everyone's favourite
legal commentator.

I break down the legal shit
behind the news

and pop culture stories we all wanna
talk about.

We are here to call to order

the case of Johnny Depp
v Amber Heard.

Today we are watching through
live testimony

of what happened in Australia.

Now, I'm going to ask you
to take this jury through

what happened
once you arrived there.

Um, I flew in, I arrived early.

I, immediately,
I walked into the bedroom,

I was so excited to see him.

I was looking forward
to having this kind of,

you know, our style at home date.
You know,

we're a new married couple we hadn't
seen each other

for basically a month
after getting married.

And I start dinner
and am happy to see him,

and at some point, early in that
evening, he pulls out a bag of MDMA.

I asked him what it was,
and he told me it was MDMA.

And I was surprised,

because at the time he'd already
gotten clean and sober,

that was for the wedding.

So, I was surprised that he would
even pull out this bag.

And he kind of seemed to suggest
that we should do it together.

And I was like, absolutely not.

Like, I just got here, I just got
here. I wanna see you.

I wanna spend time with you.

Miss Heard was upset because,

as it was too late for
a pre-nup agreement,

there was discussion
of post-nup agreement.

She could not let go of the fact
that I was

in on this post-nup agreement,

and that I was trying
to trick her into,

essentially, getting nothing
if something were to happen.

She's telling me,
"You don't trust me.

"You don't trust me.
You don't trust me."

And all I could do
was try to calm her down.

Did that work?

It did not work, no.

It escalated and escalated and
turned into madness,

chaos, violence.

Can you please describe
that chaos and violence?

Why were you at
the house that Sunday?

I was called to the house by one
of Mr Depp's assistants.

And did you observe anything
when you went into the house?

Yeah, I mean initially I heard
pretty hysterical sobbing,

crying, which sounded like
Miss Heard to me.

Just crying uncontrollably,
I think it's fair to say.

There was a bit of damage
down the steps.

A big chunk had been taken out
of the marble staircase.

Walking down into the bar,
I could see the damage,

a broken ping pong table,

sort of collapsed onto the floor.

Lots of glass and cans
strewn around the bar area.

Who was there when you arrived?

Debbie Lloyd was there.

At 11.30 you wrote, "MD received
a text message from client

"that he'd been arguing with wife,
and that he had cut his finger.

"According to patient, his assistant
and security were on their way

"to pick him up." You wrote that?

According to my notes, yes.

David Kipper was there.

I went in to instruct one of
the people with him

to look for the tip of the finger,

hoping that we would be able
to put it back.

It was pretty extensive, all that
broken glass, the blood.

There were a lot of blood drips
across that floor.

It was a kind of cream coloured
tiled floor.

On the next floor,
on the main floor,

there was a sitting room
with a couch,

a cream-coloured couch, which had
a fair amount of blood,

drips on the cushions,

and we'd set up an art studio so
a lot of the art materials

from that, you know, paint brushes,
paint, a lot of paint on the floor.

Going into the master bathroom,

there was a his and hers sinks
and mirror,

a large mirror above each of the
sinks,

that had writing on each of them.

Both of the bedrooms I think,
had blood on the duvet covers.

That's about the extent of it.

Oh, is that all?

Whose job was it to clean
all that up?

That was mine. That was mine.

Well, I'll just cut to the chase.

I think that I ended up
locking myself

in about at least nine bedrooms,

bathrooms,

that day as she was banging
on the doors

and screaming obscenities

and wanting to have
a physical altercation.

So, how did it come to be that your
finger became injured?

I left the place, the room
that I was hiding in,

or not hiding, locked myself into,

and I went downstairs
and there was a bar.

So, I grabbed a bottle
of vodka that was there,

and a shot glass,

and sat at the bar.
She was nowhere around.

Poured myself two or three
stiff shots of the vodka,

first taste of alcohol
I'd had in a long time.

And then she came down
to the bar

and found me there.

And, of course, started screaming,

"Oh, you're drinking again,
the monster," and all that.

You can see how he
feels about that.

He holds up this bottle

and kind of gesturing with
the bottle towards me

and I reach for it,
he'd revoke it, kind of laugh at me.

And he's holding out the bottle.

And I think maybe the third time
or so I get a hold of it.

I pick it up and I slam it down
on the ground right in between us.

And I smash the bottle on the floor.

And that really set him off.

She grabbed the bottle of vodka.

And then just kind of stood back
and hurled it at me.

Takes the second bottle
which was the larger one.

She threw the large bottle,

and it made contact
and shattered everywhere.

And then I realised that the tip
of my finger had been severed.

What is this a picture of, Mr Depp?

The remains of my finger.

I honestly don't remember if
I threw anything in his direction.

I don't think I did.

I just remember him having me
by the nightgown.

I remember him flailing me,

throwing me around,
I'm flailing.

I remember at one point
he's teasing me, taunting me,

that he has my breast in his hand.

My nightgown came completely off,

it was ripped off of me,

so I'm naked and slipping
around on his tile.

And, at some point,
he's on top of me,

I'm on the countertop.
He had me by the neck.

And I'm looking in his eyes
and I don't see him any more.

I don't see him any more.
It wasn't him.

It was black.

I have never been
so scared in my life.

It was black, I couldn't see him.

And my head was bashing against
the back of the bar...

This is a lot.

..and I couldn't breathe. And I
remember trying to get up

and I was slipping on the glass.
My feet were slipping,

my arms were slipping
on the countertop.

I remember trying to get up,
so I could breathe,

so I could tell him that he was
really hurting me.

I didn't think he knew
what he was doing.

I don't know how...

I'm sorry.

I couldn't breathe.

I don't...

I don't wanna do this.

Amber Heard has said on the stand
she doesn't have

a clear recollection
of how things unfolded.

But she has alleged that he sexually
assaulted her with a bottle.

There were a couple of points in
the trial

that should have never come out
so publicly.

It is so hard to assess the
credibility of either Johnny Depp

or Amber Heard for one simple
reason. They're both actors.

They are both good at getting people
to feel

the way that they want them
to feel.

Welcome to Popcorned Planet.
I'm Andy Signore,

and I'm not gonna lie,
today was rough.

I'm feeling bad for all the
survivors out there

that just watched this performance
cos I'm not buying it,

and I've gotten so many messages
from so many of you

who have been through
similar experiences

and you're not buying it either.

Like, he was on top of me,

and I'm looking in his eyes
and I don't see him any more,

I don't see him any more.

Ligature marks and finger
marks bruising is very, very common.

And I'm sorry that that was
your experience,

but thank you for sharing your
experience with the chat,

so they're like, look,

these are the things
we find confusing.

Amber Heard is a psychopath is
currently trending on Twitter so...

If you are mentally and physically
abused

like a person of domestic violence,
male or female,

would you be able to go to court,

get on the stand, and be a lairy,
smarmy, bitch?

Has anyone seen Gone Girl?

Wait for your clueless husband
to start his day.

Meticulously stage
your crime scene.

Sexual penetration with
an object is really severe.

And, unlike the rest
of what she says about Johnny Depp,

almost requires some sort
of sadistic nature.

So, I think Australia,
his story's more believable.

This has moved away from like
a news story,

or a lawsuit, and it's transformed
into a cultural moment.

And I wasn't old enough to
experience the impact

of the OJ Simpson trial, but if I
had to guess, the hold,

the chokehold that this lawsuit has
on the world, it's comparable.

And also, the way that information
and views are spread

are very different today,
than it was before...

OJ TikTok would have been...
Wild.

Oh, my gosh. Truly wild.
Truly wild.

Social media's clearly playing
a role in this case.

I cannot tell you how much time I
spend dealing with folks

on social media. And I'll you what,

the Johnny Depp folks are fanatics.

And while working for TMZ,

were you involved in any assignments
related to Miss Heard?

I was.

On the 12th, we received
a video depicting Johnny Depp

slamming some cabinets that was
captured by Miss Heard.

How does that video that was played
in this trial compare to the one

you received on August 12th, 2016?

It was much shorter than
the video we had received,

than the video that's been played
in this trial.

There was some, a bit at the
beginning that was played here

in which Miss Heard is seemingly
sort of sitting with the camera

and getting into position.

And then there's a bit at the end
where she's seemingly sniggering

and looks at the camera.

That part was not present
in what we received.

Did TMZ edit the video?

No, not even a little.

Nothing further, your honour.
Cross-examination.

I can ask that question.
Overruled.

And I'm not seeking any
15 minutes here.

Though you may,
you're welcome to speculate.

I could say the same thing about
taking Amber Heard

as a client for you.

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The issue when you go in court,
and when you testify,

and when there's evidence brought
it's really,

it's quite literally airing your
dirty laundry.

That's why celebrities always
settle cases.

They never want to go into court
for that very reason.

Could they not have figured this
out privately?

Um, I think, and we've talked about
this before on the show,

I think that making it accessible
to the public was a strategy

I think probably brought
to the table by Johnny's team.

This podcast is
for entertainment purposes only.

With this Depp-Heard trial,
the engagement is phenomenal.

I mean, it's just so cool
to see everyone get involved

and want to know about
the legal process

and the laws that are involved.

But that's, the thing is about
justice is that it's not about

the truth, it's not about right
or wrong,

unfortunately, it's about what
the judge or jury believes.

And that's on the information
that's presented.

And that's why trials are theatre.

It's supposed to be the search
for the truth

but it's really about us
orchestrating what witnesses

we're gonna bring in,

the order of proof that we're gonna
present this story,

and how we're gonna do it,
what we're gonna keep in,

what we're gonna keep out.

This is Law Disrupted,

and today we have the privilege of
speaking with Camille Vasquez.

Johnny's testimony was
a key point for us.

It was the first time
that the world,

really the jury, right,
in this case,

the jury got to hear from him
in his own words.

We needed to give him
the opportunity to speak

and speak freely.

We introduced the jury
to Johnny Depp

and who the real Johnny Depp was.

So, we introduced the jury
to his sister, who was able

to give a background about who
the little boy was

before he became Johnny Depp,

and who the man is now.

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
All right, your first witness.

Miss Dembrowski,

will you please tell
the jurors what your relationship

with Johnny was like when you were
growing up?

Johnny and I were very close.

We were just friends,

we were like best friends.

Miss Dembrowski, how would you
describe your parents' relationship?

That was complicated.

Um, I had a very
interesting childhood.

One that I was thought was normal
until a certain age.

Could you please tell them about
your history of substance use?

At about the age of, I don't know,
four, five years old,

I can remember vividly my mom
telling me

to go get her nerve pills, you know,

out of her purse that was hanging on
the back of the door.

So, I'd go get the nerve pills
and I'd take it and,

you know, after a few years
you start to notice,

well, you start to think about
nerve pills.

Nerve pills.

And then she seemed

to calm down after she took
those nerve pills.

So, when I was 11 years old,

I wanted to calm down.

I'd bring my mom her nerve pill,

walk away and I would take
one myself...

..to escape the chaotic nature

of what we were living through.

My mother was quite unpredictable,

and she was quite violent.

And the physical pain
you learn to deal with,

you learn to accept it,

but the psychological and
emotional abuse,

that's what, that's what kind
of tore us up, I think.

Mr Depp, is there any substance that
you've ever been addicted to?

Yes.

And what is that?

Oxycodone.

So far, everybody's just been making
these speculations based off

whatever they're reading. We haven't
heard it out of

the horse's mouth until now.

And now that we have, or started
to hear about these things,

it only makes him seem like
a more honest human being.

A more likeable person.

The pills that I was addicted to,

the oxycodone, which are very,
very powerful opiates,

two of those would knock me out.

You go on what's called the nod

and then it takes you away into
sleep. It's just very deep sleep.

We see Johnny Depp very open about
his drug use

that I think the other side was
going to try and use against him.

But he knew he was going to admit
to it,

his friends admitted to it.
And they kind of, you know,

took the sting out it
from the other side.

Nothing really happened
with it any more, right?

Once you admit it, they can't really
do anything with it.

There's no movement.

This is picture of you on a black
leather couch passed out, correct?

Passed out's an interesting way
of putting it. Maybe asleep?

That's ice cream
on your lap, correct?

It is indeed. Miss Heard asked me
to hold the ice cream

as she noticed
that I was on the nod,

that means falling asleep,

from the 17-hour day that I'd work,

and also the opiates
that I'd ingested.

That was a wonderful picture
to take for her.

I don't know why she took it.

So, it's Miss Heard's fault
that that picture was taken?

Is that what you're saying?

She snapped it.

Interesting to see how
the jury interpret this information.

Will they interpret it as
Miss Heard wants,

of evidence of Johnny having
a dark side?

Will they interpret it as evidence,
as Johnny says,

of a girlfriend setting up her
partner to look like a bad guy?

Follow me for more legal TikTok.

You took this photograph,
right, Miss Heard?

That's correct.

So, you decided to take a picture
of Mr Depp asleep on the floor?

He was passed out.

You took this picture as well.

Yes.

And this is a picture of Mr Depp
taking a nap on his tropical island

on vacation?
We were on vacation, yes.

And you also took this picture,
right, Miss Heard?

That's correct. And this is another
picture of Mr Depp

asleep in a chair?

No, he was nodding off.
Asleep is different.

When you're nodding off,,
you're high on drugs,

didn't even feel
the cigarette in his hand that had,

you know, been burning on his leg.

It was cause for alarm for me,

naturally,
because I cared about him.

You seem to really like taking
pictures of Mr Depp

while he's sleeping, don't you?

I hated it.

You decided to take
a picture of Mr Depp asleep

with ice cream spilled all over him.

This isn't a very flattering picture
of Mr Depp, is it?

No, it's not.

You did, in fact, send this picture
to your friend Rocky Pennington?

Yes, I did.
And this is you protecting Mr Depp?

That is me getting support
from my best friend.

This is you supporting Mr Depp?

This is me getting support from my
best friend. I also need support.

My God...
I'm so disappointed,

I'm so disappointed in you,
Andy. So upsetting.

I'm so sorry, guys,
the truth is there, I'm a monster.

I must be a monster because I passed
out on my bed last night

and Johnny took a photo
and now it's over.

Can you guys freaking believe this
was put into evidence?

He's taking a fricking nap
on vacation!

Like, what the frick is this photo?

There is a money aspect
to this too.

Social media now, influencers,
you study this for a living,

I don't have to tell you.

They make money sometimes
for posting content.

How is that playing into this
particular moment?

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You have creators on platforms like
YouTube

who previously were getting hundreds
of views on videos

about anything ranging
from video games to music to art.

All of a sudden, they're pumping out
videos about this trial.

I'm subscribed to some of you
and it's cool to be on a stream.

Videos that make Johnny Depp
look good

and make Amber Heard look bad,
because those are the only ones

that people want to see. And they're
being able to make money

for the first time ever.

They're getting viral videos
off of this case.

Getting millions of views.

You all have gotten wild,
and I appreciate you.

This is the road that we're on.
Thank you so much.

It's kind of fun to just watch
the number spiral

and I appreciate it.
This is a wild growth chart.

You keep saying it's glorifying
Johnny Depp

but that is the dominant stream,
right? It's not the other way.

Up until recently, you really
couldn't find any TikToks in support

of Amber Heard. The entire platform
was pro Johnny Depp.

And I've heard from those creators
themselves that if someone comments

and says that they have
a neutral position,

or they think that maybe Amber
is a victim,

they immediately get
dogpiled, harassed,

abused themselves in these
comment sections,

and no-one wants to speak up
in support of Amber Heard.

And as this high-profile trial plays
out in court,

social media users are sort of
rallying around Johnny Depp,

as Steve alluded to there.

They're looking for holes in
the defence's case

and they think that they've
found one.

This is what Amber carried in her
purse for the entire relationship

with Johnny Depp.

This was what she used.

She became very adept about how
she had to mix

the different colours for the
different days of the bruises

to be able to cover those.

So Milani Cosmetics is the company
that is sort of jumping

into the fray in this case.

They said that their colour
correcting compact,

the compact that came out in 2017,

it was the same compact that defence
attorneys used to say

that Amber Heard
used this specific kit

to cover up bruises she allegedly
received from Johnny Depp.

Now, Milani jumped into the fray by
posting a TikTok saying

actually this kit came out in 2017,

Amber Heard filed for divorce
from Johnny Depp in 2016.

There's no way that she used this
specific kit

in order to cover alleged bruises.

This was just an example
of something that she used,

this is not the actual compact
that she used,

but many people took the TikTok that
Milani Cosmetics posted and said,

"Hey, this is definitive proof that
Amber Heard's attorneys are lying."

Amber Heard just got exposed in
another big lie

in her court case
with Johnny Depp.

She said that Amber carried that
in her purse to cover

the bruises through her
entire relationship.

Well, that palette didn't come out
until after the divorce.

Meaning this make-up palette did not
exist when they were together.

Boom. And the truth will set
you free.

The TikTok has been viewed more than
five million times...

All right. So, I'm here at the
Fairfax. County Courthouse...

It has caused real world
consequences.

We saw one user actually
go to the courthouse...

All right, going to
the judge's chambers.

..and seek out Johnny's Depp's
lawyers and attorneys

and say, "Hey, I have evidence
for you that you need to see."

Some people are actually criticising
the cosmetics company

for jumping into the fray saying,
"Hey, you did this for clout."

Like, there was no reason for you
to jump in here.

I think a lot of people,
are as this room,

which is I just took Amber Heard's
accusations at face value.

I wanted to believe her.

Like, this make-up kit would suggest
that maybe she's not

completely truthful.

People obviously have their
opinions. This is a celebrity case.

Johnny Depp is clearly winning right
now in the court of public opinion.

Amber Heard or Johnny Depp?

Come on, you got to answer.

Do you believe Johnny,
or do you believe Amber?

It's ultimately what this case
comes down to,

cos they can't both be right.
One is lying.

Who do you believe? Well, that
depends probably a lot

on your biases,

and, if you're inclined
to believe Johnny,

you just identify with him,

then everything he says is
gonna be believed.

Drug stuff,
sure, that doesn't matter.

See, we minimise, we excuse,
because that's our favourite party.

And then for Amber,

it's like everything out there
negative about her we seize on,

of course,
because that validates our belief.

We are watching the final stretch of
Amber Heard and Johnny Depp

in their duelling defamation trial
playing out in Virginia.

Amber Heard, she is on the stand
really pushing back

on the cross-examination.

You're seeing a little bit of a
difference in the way Amber Heard

is answering Camille Vasquez.

And Camille Vasquez is being
extremely aggressive with her.

Let's go back in in
the moment where we left off.

You spoke about donating your
divorce settlement

on a Danish TV show, correct?

I believe I said I had...

I believe I said I had donated it
to charity.

You appeared on a show
called RTL Late Night, right?

I don't recall what show it was.

Would you please play plaintiff's
exhibit 346

which is a portion of
your appearance on this programme?

You got a divorce settlement
of $7 million.

People were saying this was all
about the money

but then you did something that
twisted that whole argument.

What did you do with that money?

$7 million in total was
donated to...

I split it between the ACLU

and Children's Hospital
of Los Angeles.

The ACLU is a human
rights organisation.

Sorry, ACLU is a
prominent organisation,

nonprofit organisation in
the United States.

It's called the American Civil
Liberties Union,

and they work on behalf
of marginalised communities

on the ground
and legislative reform.

Well, more power to you
because that's something that

I've never heard of.
I wanted nothing.

So, in this October 2018 interview,
you said that you had "donated"

your entire divorce settlement
to charity, right?

That's correct. And, in fact,

your exact words were "seven million
in total.

"I split it between the ACLU

"and the Children's Hospital of
Los Angeles."

That's correct. I made that
statement

as soon as I got a divorce, and we
reached the settlement.

That's when I pledged it,
right then.

But you hadn't donated your entire
$7 million settlement

to charity at that point, had you?

That's incorrect.

Sitting here today, Miss Heard,
you still haven't donated

the $7 million divorce settlement
to charity, isn't that right?

Incorrect. I pledged the entirety
of the settlement to charity....

That's not my question.

..and I intend to fulfil
those obligations.

Miss Heard,
that's not my question. Please.

What was your question?
Try to answer my question.

Sitting here today...

It's so awkward.

..you have not donated
the $7 million -

donated, not pledged -

donated the $7 million
divorce settlement to charity.

I use pledge and donation
synonymous with one another,

they mean the same thing.

Well, I don't. Miss Heard.
I don't use it synonymously.

That's how donations are paid.

Miss Heard, respectfully,
that's not my question.

So, as of today, you have
not donated $7 million

of your divorce settlement
to charity, right?

I have not been able to fulfil
those obligations yet.

Amber is literally trying
to convince the jury.

She keeps looking at the jury.

She is trying to sell this story
that she donated

the whole seven million that she got
from her divorce

because she pledged it.

Amber is very articulate.
She's very smart.

But, yeah, she does look at the jury
which is a little bit weird

when she's addressing her comments.

She may be looking at that jury more
than any other witness has

in the past during this trial,

because she wants
to keep their attention.

And that's because you did want
something, didn't you?

I didn't want anything
and I didn't get anything.

You wanted Mr Depp's money.

Didn't get it.
Wasn't interested in it.

I loved Johnny,
that's why I was with him.

You wanted good press.

In general, one does want
good press, yes.

You wanted to seem
altruistic publicly.

It wasn't my interest.

My interest is in my name
and clearing my name,

and at the time I was being called
a liar

and my motives were
being questioned.

I did see it as important
to clear that up.

I wanted to make a statement

to make sure that there was not
any doubt,

that I couldn't be labelled these
things just because Johnny

was a bigger star and had more
publicity reach.

You wanted to remind everyone
of your claims

of domestic violence
against Mr Depp, right?

No, I wanted to move on
with my life.

You wanted to make those claims
seem believable.

They are believable.
They were believable.

You wanted them to be seen, you
wanted to be seen, excuse me,

as a noble victim
of domestic violence.

I have never, never wanted
to be seen as a victim.

Nor have I ever called myself one.

You testified under oath that "the
entirety of your divorce settlement

"was donated to charity."
Didn't you?

That's correct.
I pledged the entirety.

What's the big deal with Amber Heard
and these donations?

Scamber Turd exposed herself
yet again

and it might have just cost her
the entire trial.

And Pinocchio might have
to sue her for identity theft

because these lies are getting
out of hand.

You pay donations through
pledging them?

No, you pay, you give donations
by giving them money,

not by saying you're going
to give them money.

She doesn't know the different
between donate and pledge.

Right. I think I'm gonna Amber Heard
it, you know?

Pledge $10, 12 million to a
great organisation,

you know, and since pledge and
donate is synonymous,

we're all good.

He's won already in
the court of opinion.

Whatever this jury comes out to,
he's won,

and he needed the court process
to extract evidence

and statements from Amber.

And that leads us
to real question,

which is what is the actual truth?

Where does that come from?

That's the jury's job.

I wanna know how they picked
the jury for this.

I was thinking about that too.
I was like this has gotta be,

I mean like I'm assuming
the jury's like sequestered away,

like this is like a big...
Sequestered away from where?

Phillip, let me start with you. How
important do you think social media

is and what's going on out there
in the social media universe

to this case? All that really
matters is that you have

a jury of seven who does not go on
social media

and is going to assess what went
down based purely on

what is presented in court and not
what is, you know,

on TikTok or on Instagram posts,
or Facebook, etc.

They've been able to interact
with friends, family,

so while they're not supposed
to engage in social media

and know what's going on
in the public sphere,

it's kind of tough to say that
no-one on that jury has been exposed

to it whatsoever. So,
I do think that's a concern.

And the impact of the crowd cannot
be overlooked

in that courtroom every day.

Do you think that the jury gets it
right in most cases?

Do you think that they understand
their responsibility?

Of course, the judge tells them what
they're supposed to do...

So, you're not to read anything
about this case.

You're not to watch anything about
this case.

You're not to listen
to anything about this case.

This applies to television,
newspapers, magazines, the internet,

and any online sites. Further,
you're not to read, watch,

or listen to anything about this
case on social networking sites

such as Twitter, Facebook,
Instagram, Snapchat, etc,

and similar sites.

The jury should have been
sequestered.

You would hope that they would not
look up anything.

Very, very hard to be a juror,

I do not envy these jurors at all.

Six weeks being in that courtroom.
Again, it is not fun.

Not one of them had a fucking clue
that they were walking

into Johnny Depp's fucking trial.

I think this is fantastic that it's
being broadcasted,

and I think that everything that's
coming together,

this is gonna get bigger
and crazier.

Mr Depp calls Kate Moss
to the stand.

It would be a detrimental thing
to Amber's Case.

And there is a real risk that not
only could he lose this case

as the plaintiff, but Heard has a
$100 million counter claim.

This thing could get real bad, even
worse, real fast for Mr Depp.