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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,109 --> 00:00:07,938 - All right, we good? - Yeah. 2 00:00:07,938 --> 00:00:10,079 - Let's start rolling? - Camera's set. 3 00:00:10,079 --> 00:00:11,770 - We're ready. - Standing by... 4 00:00:11,770 --> 00:00:13,116 - Wait, hold on. - No, it's okay. 5 00:00:13,116 --> 00:00:15,843 We're rolling. 6 00:00:15,843 --> 00:00:20,779 Glo, day two, take one, comma marker. 7 00:00:20,779 --> 00:00:23,161 This a random question, Glo, the first one... 8 00:00:23,161 --> 00:00:24,507 All right, here we go. 9 00:00:24,507 --> 00:00:26,854 Everyone talks about, um, 10 00:00:26,854 --> 00:00:29,512 - how there were two Tupacs. - Yeah. 11 00:00:29,512 --> 00:00:31,272 There's like two different extremes of, like, him, 12 00:00:31,272 --> 00:00:33,033 getting back. 13 00:00:33,033 --> 00:00:35,863 That he had multiple personality disorder, essentially? 14 00:00:35,863 --> 00:00:40,281 Bullshit. He did not have multiple personality nothing. 15 00:00:40,281 --> 00:00:42,663 It was a kid, a young man, 16 00:00:42,663 --> 00:00:45,355 who was-- some days you saw him, he was excited. 17 00:00:45,355 --> 00:00:47,978 Some days you saw him, he was angry. 18 00:00:47,978 --> 00:00:49,532 And some days you saw him, 19 00:00:49,532 --> 00:00:51,154 he was the sweetest thing in the world. 20 00:00:51,154 --> 00:00:54,295 And maybe because, astrologically, 21 00:00:54,295 --> 00:00:55,883 being a Gemini, 22 00:00:55,883 --> 00:00:59,473 I can see the duality of the personality, 23 00:00:59,473 --> 00:01:02,855 but not in terms of being psycho nothing. 24 00:01:02,855 --> 00:01:04,478 He wasn't bipolar. 25 00:01:04,478 --> 00:01:06,480 He was full of anxiety. 26 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,516 - Mm-hmm, why? - He was-- 27 00:01:08,516 --> 00:01:09,897 Well, his life. Look at his life. 28 00:01:09,897 --> 00:01:11,485 Look what was happening to him. 29 00:01:11,485 --> 00:01:13,314 You know, his life wasn't running smooth. 30 00:01:13,314 --> 00:01:16,904 He wanted to do music. 31 00:01:16,904 --> 00:01:18,526 He moved with the feeling. 32 00:01:20,045 --> 00:01:23,152 Feelings unite us. 33 00:01:23,152 --> 00:01:24,705 Thoughts kind of separate us, 34 00:01:24,705 --> 00:01:27,190 but no matter what we may think, 35 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:31,160 we all feel the same things the same way. 36 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,748 And it kind of is what makes art work. 37 00:01:33,748 --> 00:01:36,717 But showing emotion for a boy is, you know, 38 00:01:36,717 --> 00:01:39,029 we was conditioned from childhood, you know, 39 00:01:39,029 --> 00:01:40,410 big boys don't cry. 40 00:01:40,410 --> 00:01:43,689 And I don't think Tupac had any fear 41 00:01:43,689 --> 00:01:46,899 of expressing his feelings. 42 00:01:46,899 --> 00:01:48,522 For whatever reason, 43 00:01:48,522 --> 00:01:50,213 that barrier just didn't exist for him. 44 00:01:50,213 --> 00:01:52,526 He had a pretty open channel. 45 00:01:52,526 --> 00:01:54,528 ♪ I hear Brenda's got a baby 46 00:01:54,528 --> 00:01:56,081 ♪ But Brenda's Barely got a brain ♪ 47 00:01:56,081 --> 00:01:57,910 ♪ A damn shame 48 00:01:57,910 --> 00:02:00,085 ♪ The girl can hardly Spell her name ♪ 49 00:02:00,085 --> 00:02:02,363 ♪ That's not our problem That's up to Brenda's family ♪ 50 00:02:02,363 --> 00:02:04,710 ♪ Well, let me show you how it Affects our whole community ♪ 51 00:02:04,710 --> 00:02:06,885 ♪ Now Brenda really never knew Her moms ♪ 52 00:02:06,885 --> 00:02:09,577 ♪ And her dad was a junkie Puttin' death into his arms ♪ 53 00:02:09,577 --> 00:02:12,408 ♪ It's sad 'cause I bet Brenda doesn't even know ♪ 54 00:02:12,408 --> 00:02:13,961 ♪ Just 'cause You're in the ghetto ♪ 55 00:02:13,961 --> 00:02:16,205 ♪ Doesn't mean you can't grow 56 00:02:16,205 --> 00:02:19,069 ♪ But oh, that's a thought My own revelation ♪ 57 00:02:19,069 --> 00:02:22,072 ♪ Do whatever it takes To resist the temptation ♪ 58 00:02:22,072 --> 00:02:24,282 ♪ Brenda got herself A boyfriend ♪ 59 00:02:24,282 --> 00:02:27,112 ♪ Her boyfriend was her cousin Now let's watch the joy end ♪ 60 00:02:27,112 --> 00:02:28,631 ♪ She tried To hide her pregnancy ♪ 61 00:02:28,631 --> 00:02:30,391 ♪ From her family 62 00:02:30,391 --> 00:02:31,737 ♪ Who really Didn't care to see ♪ 63 00:02:31,737 --> 00:02:33,601 ♪ Or give a damn if she 64 00:02:33,601 --> 00:02:35,776 ♪ Went out and had a church Of kids ♪ 65 00:02:35,776 --> 00:02:37,398 ♪ As long as When the check came ♪ 66 00:02:37,398 --> 00:02:41,161 ♪ They got first dibs 67 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:45,648 Tupac was living in the valley off of Coldwater. 68 00:02:45,648 --> 00:02:48,237 And when Afeni got out of rehab, 69 00:02:48,237 --> 00:02:51,999 there was happiness, a lot of emotion, and relief 70 00:02:51,999 --> 00:02:54,967 because he knew his mother was on the road to recovery. 71 00:02:54,967 --> 00:02:56,935 And that made him really happy. 72 00:02:56,935 --> 00:03:00,110 And he wanted her to be a part... 73 00:03:00,110 --> 00:03:02,423 of his success. 74 00:03:02,423 --> 00:03:04,632 ♪ Now Brenda's belly's Getting bigger ♪ 75 00:03:04,632 --> 00:03:07,842 ♪ But no one seems to notice Any change in her figure ♪ 76 00:03:07,842 --> 00:03:10,259 ♪ She's 12 years old And she's having a baby ♪ 77 00:03:10,259 --> 00:03:12,951 ♪ In love with the molester Who's sexing her crazy ♪ 78 00:03:12,951 --> 00:03:14,608 Let's talk a little bit about 79 00:03:14,608 --> 00:03:16,196 the song that's hitting real big right now. 80 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:18,784 "Brenda's Got a Baby." Oh, God. 81 00:03:18,784 --> 00:03:20,959 "Brenda's Got a Baby" is based on a true story, 82 00:03:20,959 --> 00:03:22,823 and it started out big... 83 00:03:22,823 --> 00:03:24,618 A bizarre story of child abandonment, 84 00:03:24,618 --> 00:03:28,208 incest, and attempted suicide. 85 00:03:28,208 --> 00:03:31,176 A newborn was thrown into the garbage of Brooklyn yesterday. 86 00:03:31,176 --> 00:03:32,971 The mother was just 12 years old. 87 00:03:32,971 --> 00:03:34,869 And today, the father, her cousin, 88 00:03:34,869 --> 00:03:37,217 was arrested after he tried to kill himself. 89 00:03:37,217 --> 00:03:39,460 ♪ He left her and she had The baby solo ♪ 90 00:03:39,460 --> 00:03:41,013 ♪ She had it On the bathroom floor ♪ 91 00:03:41,013 --> 00:03:42,808 ♪ And didn't know so 92 00:03:42,808 --> 00:03:44,016 ♪ She didn't know what To throw away ♪ 93 00:03:44,016 --> 00:03:45,328 ♪ And what to keep 94 00:03:45,328 --> 00:03:47,054 ♪ She wrapped the baby up 95 00:03:47,054 --> 00:03:48,469 ♪ And threw him In the trash heap ♪ 96 00:03:48,469 --> 00:03:50,230 Everything about that song was new, 97 00:03:50,230 --> 00:03:51,714 because at that time, 98 00:03:51,714 --> 00:03:53,716 either you were making a party song 99 00:03:53,716 --> 00:03:55,683 or aggressive gangster music. 100 00:03:55,683 --> 00:03:58,168 But Pac read the story and he was so moved by it, 101 00:03:58,168 --> 00:03:59,998 he wrote the song. 102 00:03:59,998 --> 00:04:01,517 ♪ I guess she thought She'd get away ♪ 103 00:04:01,517 --> 00:04:02,725 ♪ Wouldn't hear the cries 104 00:04:02,725 --> 00:04:04,658 ♪ She didn't realize 105 00:04:04,658 --> 00:04:06,522 ♪ How much the little baby Had her eyes ♪ 106 00:04:06,522 --> 00:04:08,386 ♪ Now the baby's In the trash heap bawlin' ♪ 107 00:04:08,386 --> 00:04:10,180 ♪ Mama can't help her 108 00:04:10,180 --> 00:04:11,561 ♪ But it hurts To hear her calling ♪ 109 00:04:11,561 --> 00:04:13,667 The infant boy was found 110 00:04:13,667 --> 00:04:15,255 in the building's trash compactor yesterday. 111 00:04:15,255 --> 00:04:16,394 This maintenance worker was just about 112 00:04:16,394 --> 00:04:17,912 to turn the compactor on. 113 00:04:17,912 --> 00:04:20,018 ♪ Brenda wants to run away 114 00:04:20,018 --> 00:04:21,744 ♪ Mama say "You making me lose pay ♪ 115 00:04:21,744 --> 00:04:23,228 ♪ And social workers here Every day" ♪ 116 00:04:23,228 --> 00:04:24,505 Hospital officials say 117 00:04:24,505 --> 00:04:25,679 they will turn the infant over 118 00:04:25,679 --> 00:04:27,336 to the Bureau of Child Welfare. 119 00:04:27,336 --> 00:04:29,510 It was like a week-long series. 120 00:04:29,510 --> 00:04:31,857 The mother has been charged with juvenile delinquency 121 00:04:31,857 --> 00:04:33,756 And I was like, "That's so wild, 122 00:04:33,756 --> 00:04:35,102 the media was pimping that little, 123 00:04:35,102 --> 00:04:36,345 small, poor, helpless girl." 124 00:04:36,345 --> 00:04:38,105 And no changes was made. 125 00:04:38,105 --> 00:04:39,762 She was nothing more than a story to them. 126 00:04:39,762 --> 00:04:41,557 And it was getting smaller and smaller. 127 00:04:41,557 --> 00:04:43,524 ♪ Now Brenda's gotta make Her own way ♪ 128 00:04:43,524 --> 00:04:45,733 ♪ Can't go to her family They won't let her stay ♪ 129 00:04:45,733 --> 00:04:48,598 ♪ No money, no babysitter She couldn't keep a job ♪ 130 00:04:48,598 --> 00:04:51,429 ♪ She tried to sell crack But end up gettin' robbed ♪ 131 00:04:51,429 --> 00:04:54,363 So now, same story they reported on, I'm reporting on. 132 00:04:54,363 --> 00:04:57,227 ♪ So she sees sex As a way of leaving hell ♪ 133 00:04:57,227 --> 00:05:00,092 ♪ It's paying the rent So she really can't complain ♪ 134 00:05:00,092 --> 00:05:02,129 ♪ Prostitute found, slain 135 00:05:02,129 --> 00:05:04,269 ♪ And Brenda's her name She's got a baby ♪ 136 00:05:04,269 --> 00:05:07,065 You don't know where the journey's gonna take you 137 00:05:07,065 --> 00:05:08,549 when you begin with an artist. 138 00:05:08,549 --> 00:05:10,620 And I remember with Tupac, 139 00:05:10,620 --> 00:05:12,726 with "Brenda's Got a Baby," it all changed. 140 00:05:12,726 --> 00:05:14,762 My publicist sent a gang of letters to my house. 141 00:05:14,762 --> 00:05:16,902 People writing me, "Keep your head up." 142 00:05:16,902 --> 00:05:18,766 Or, "My mother smoke crack, I just need a big brother." 143 00:05:18,766 --> 00:05:20,768 Or, "My cousin in that situation, 144 00:05:20,768 --> 00:05:22,391 we don't know what to do, should she get an abortion?" 145 00:05:22,391 --> 00:05:24,289 And a lot of it, is you see a lot of evil things 146 00:05:24,289 --> 00:05:26,084 and it's like, I wanna get involved in everything 147 00:05:26,084 --> 00:05:27,603 and my publicist and my manager's like, "You can't..." 148 00:05:27,603 --> 00:05:29,156 Genius comes with a price. 149 00:05:29,156 --> 00:05:31,089 I want to be everywhere. I want to go everywhere. 150 00:05:31,089 --> 00:05:32,918 I want to expand and blow up. 151 00:05:32,918 --> 00:05:35,404 The urgency for things to move. 152 00:05:35,404 --> 00:05:36,922 If it was hard for us, 153 00:05:36,922 --> 00:05:38,786 I can only imagine how hard it was for him. 154 00:05:38,786 --> 00:05:40,650 What I'm trying to encourage is for people to make a change. 155 00:05:40,650 --> 00:05:41,789 - He had so much to say. - 'Cause we can do that. 156 00:05:41,789 --> 00:05:43,273 So much to do. 157 00:05:43,273 --> 00:05:45,137 We got brains. We can reeducate. 158 00:05:45,137 --> 00:05:47,001 - And he was hopped up. - I mean, I think 159 00:05:47,001 --> 00:05:48,658 that's what my moms was talkin' about 160 00:05:48,658 --> 00:05:50,142 what makes you a man, responsibility. 161 00:05:50,142 --> 00:05:51,765 The album was doing good. 162 00:05:51,765 --> 00:05:53,491 "2Pacalypse Now" Powerful, powerful stuff. 163 00:05:53,491 --> 00:05:55,285 Juice is coming out. He was hot. 164 00:05:55,285 --> 00:05:56,770 The new movie comes out this Friday. 165 00:05:56,770 --> 00:05:58,427 He knew he nailed Juice. 166 00:05:58,427 --> 00:06:00,152 ...and I like that reaction from the crowd. 167 00:06:00,152 --> 00:06:01,430 And all of a sudden, we got money. 168 00:06:01,430 --> 00:06:02,810 Juice is respect, power. 169 00:06:02,810 --> 00:06:04,329 How far will you go to get it? 170 00:06:04,329 --> 00:06:06,193 People in the film business 171 00:06:06,193 --> 00:06:07,505 saw his talent as an actor, 172 00:06:07,505 --> 00:06:10,300 but he wasn't prepared... 173 00:06:12,648 --> 00:06:15,167 ...for the reaction at the theaters. 174 00:06:15,167 --> 00:06:16,445 Freeze, motherfucker! 175 00:06:16,445 --> 00:06:18,619 Turn around hit the wall! 176 00:06:18,619 --> 00:06:20,449 Juice opened around the country 177 00:06:20,449 --> 00:06:22,451 to the sound of gunfire 178 00:06:22,451 --> 00:06:24,625 inside and outside a number of theaters where it played. 179 00:06:24,625 --> 00:06:26,386 I got so many calls. 180 00:06:26,386 --> 00:06:28,008 "What's he thinking 181 00:06:28,008 --> 00:06:29,630 about the violence in the theaters?" 182 00:06:29,630 --> 00:06:31,321 He doesn't have anything to do 183 00:06:31,321 --> 00:06:33,323 with the violence happening in the theaters. 184 00:06:33,323 --> 00:06:35,187 Police say much of the violence was random, 185 00:06:35,187 --> 00:06:36,982 although most of it involved moviegoers. 186 00:06:36,982 --> 00:06:38,881 He said, "They want to talk to me." 187 00:06:38,881 --> 00:06:42,229 No! You don't talk to everybody who wants to talk to you. 188 00:06:42,229 --> 00:06:44,334 But Pac didn't listen all the time. 189 00:06:44,334 --> 00:06:46,164 What we're doing is using our brain 190 00:06:46,164 --> 00:06:48,200 to get out of the ghetto, any way we can. 191 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,202 So, we tell these stories. And they tend to be violent, 192 00:06:50,202 --> 00:06:52,722 because our world tends to be filled with violence. 193 00:06:52,722 --> 00:06:55,173 He wanted to get the attention he needed 194 00:06:55,173 --> 00:06:57,002 for the goals that he wants to reach. 195 00:06:57,002 --> 00:07:00,350 So, if this is reality, the next question becomes... 196 00:07:00,350 --> 00:07:02,352 How do we change it? 197 00:07:02,352 --> 00:07:04,182 And he wanted attention for that assault case. 198 00:07:04,182 --> 00:07:05,494 ...these are "learn to be a nigga" scars. 199 00:07:05,494 --> 00:07:07,185 Who did that? 200 00:07:07,185 --> 00:07:09,221 Oakland Police Department. 201 00:07:09,221 --> 00:07:11,085 - You're suing them? - Ten mil. 202 00:07:11,085 --> 00:07:13,018 What else can I do? 'Cause you know how that go. 203 00:07:13,018 --> 00:07:14,503 Rodney King is still fighting for his, 204 00:07:14,503 --> 00:07:16,366 and they got it on tape. 205 00:07:16,366 --> 00:07:18,368 You know what I'm saying? They got it on tape! 206 00:07:18,368 --> 00:07:20,957 The Rodney King thing had a tremendous effect on him. 207 00:07:22,787 --> 00:07:24,374 That's fucked up how they doing a nigga. 208 00:07:24,374 --> 00:07:25,617 Look how they doing him. 209 00:07:29,241 --> 00:07:32,728 Nigga, fuck that! Show me help, nigga. 210 00:07:32,728 --> 00:07:35,696 A Black man being done wrong by police officers, 211 00:07:35,696 --> 00:07:37,698 which happen to be White, 212 00:07:37,698 --> 00:07:40,598 we don't just film shit and let a nigga get killed. 213 00:07:40,598 --> 00:07:41,771 Fuck all that! 214 00:07:41,771 --> 00:07:45,085 What's happening? What it do? 215 00:07:45,085 --> 00:07:47,536 That's Tupac. That's the cloth that he was cut from. 216 00:07:47,536 --> 00:07:49,399 ♪ They claim that I'm violent 217 00:07:49,399 --> 00:07:51,298 ♪ Just 'cause I refuse To be silent ♪ 218 00:07:51,298 --> 00:07:52,713 ♪ These hypocrites Are havin' fits ♪ 219 00:07:52,713 --> 00:07:53,783 ♪ 'Cause I'm not buyin' it 220 00:07:53,783 --> 00:07:55,958 ♪ Defyin' it 221 00:07:55,958 --> 00:07:58,305 ♪ Envious because I will Rebel against any oppressor ♪ 222 00:07:58,305 --> 00:07:59,893 ♪ And this is known As self-defense ♪ 223 00:07:59,893 --> 00:08:01,411 2Pacalypse Now, 224 00:08:01,411 --> 00:08:03,552 a rap album that has some songs 225 00:08:03,552 --> 00:08:05,726 about Blacks who kill cops. 226 00:08:05,726 --> 00:08:07,417 ♪ I told 'em fight back 227 00:08:07,417 --> 00:08:08,902 ♪ Attack on society 228 00:08:08,902 --> 00:08:10,593 ♪ If this is violence 229 00:08:10,593 --> 00:08:11,905 ♪ Then violent's What I gotta be ♪ 230 00:08:11,905 --> 00:08:13,631 You have a list of titles 231 00:08:13,631 --> 00:08:17,462 First one, "I Don't Give a F." "Crooked Ass Nigga." 232 00:08:17,462 --> 00:08:19,429 ♪ If you investigate 233 00:08:19,429 --> 00:08:21,501 ♪ You'll find out Where it's coming from ♪ 234 00:08:21,501 --> 00:08:23,503 ♪ Look through our history America's the violent one ♪ 235 00:08:23,503 --> 00:08:24,814 Many of the titles suggest 236 00:08:24,814 --> 00:08:26,747 violence, sex, drug use. 237 00:08:26,747 --> 00:08:29,094 - Let's pick... violent. - ...and profanity. 238 00:08:29,094 --> 00:08:31,752 ♪ In every jeep and every car Brothers stomp this ♪ 239 00:08:31,752 --> 00:08:34,652 ♪ I'm never ignorant Getting goals accomplished ♪ 240 00:08:34,652 --> 00:08:36,930 The album was playing in a stolen car 241 00:08:36,930 --> 00:08:39,760 when Texas Trooper Bill Davidson stopped it. 242 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,590 He was a family man. 243 00:08:41,590 --> 00:08:43,523 ♪ He had the nerve To say I had a curfew ♪ 244 00:08:43,523 --> 00:08:46,111 ♪ Get out the car Or I'll hurt you ♪ 245 00:08:46,111 --> 00:08:48,355 A cop from the country was shot dead 246 00:08:48,355 --> 00:08:50,530 by a teenager from the inner city. 247 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:51,979 Nineteen-year-old, Ronald Howard... 248 00:08:51,979 --> 00:08:53,602 ♪ Before I knew it 249 00:08:53,602 --> 00:08:55,535 ♪ I was beatin' the cop Senseless ♪ 250 00:08:55,535 --> 00:08:57,778 ♪ The other cop dropped his gun He was defenseless ♪ 251 00:08:57,778 --> 00:08:59,297 He believes the music he was listening to, 252 00:08:59,297 --> 00:09:02,300 from Tupac, probably did influence him 253 00:09:02,300 --> 00:09:04,164 and caused him to shoot that trooper. 254 00:09:04,164 --> 00:09:06,338 ♪ Now I'm against this Cop who was racist ♪ 255 00:09:06,338 --> 00:09:09,307 ♪ Givin' him a taste of Trading Places ♪ 256 00:09:09,307 --> 00:09:11,343 Did the music make him do it? 257 00:09:11,343 --> 00:09:13,622 It proved to be the perfect campaign issue 258 00:09:13,622 --> 00:09:15,969 for Dan Quayle yesterday. 259 00:09:15,969 --> 00:09:18,143 ♪ This is a lesson to the Rednecks and crooked cops ♪ 260 00:09:18,143 --> 00:09:20,836 ♪ You fuck with real niggas Get 'ya fuckin' ass dropped ♪ 261 00:09:20,836 --> 00:09:23,632 There is absolutely no reason for a record like this 262 00:09:23,632 --> 00:09:26,427 - to be published. - It is sick. 263 00:09:26,669 --> 00:09:29,327 ♪ You wanna sweat me Never get me to be silent ♪ 264 00:09:29,327 --> 00:09:31,053 ♪ Givin' them a reason 265 00:09:31,053 --> 00:09:32,572 ♪ A reason to claim That I'm violent ♪ 266 00:09:43,617 --> 00:09:47,552 ♪ Just because we play What the people want ♪ 267 00:09:47,552 --> 00:09:49,519 ♪ Fuck a damn cop 268 00:09:49,519 --> 00:09:52,212 ♪ Just because we play What the people... ♪ 269 00:09:52,212 --> 00:09:53,834 ♪ Violence 270 00:09:53,834 --> 00:09:55,525 Fuck a damn cop, you understand? 271 00:09:55,525 --> 00:09:58,252 Some of it is cuts. We got a cut that goes, 272 00:09:58,252 --> 00:10:00,841 F-F-Fuck a damn cop. 273 00:10:14,959 --> 00:10:18,272 When did you first come to learn of Tupac, as an artist? 274 00:10:18,272 --> 00:10:20,274 As an artist? 275 00:10:20,274 --> 00:10:23,208 Uh, wow... 276 00:10:23,208 --> 00:10:26,108 I don't even know if it was "Brenda's Got a Baby," it was-- 277 00:10:26,108 --> 00:10:28,282 I think it was the first one. 278 00:10:28,282 --> 00:10:30,043 My impression of him was 279 00:10:30,043 --> 00:10:32,390 he was gangsta as a motherfucker, first of all. 280 00:10:32,390 --> 00:10:35,220 'Cause he would say shit other rappers wasn't saying. 281 00:10:35,220 --> 00:10:37,395 But he was known for shit happening with him. 282 00:10:37,395 --> 00:10:39,569 What do you think that was with Tupac, 283 00:10:39,569 --> 00:10:42,124 where he would run into fire like that? 284 00:10:42,124 --> 00:10:43,712 What was he looking for? 285 00:10:43,712 --> 00:10:47,405 Mainly, he was looking for understanding. 286 00:10:47,405 --> 00:10:50,580 You are here under a court-ordered deposition 287 00:10:50,580 --> 00:10:54,792 for the case of Linda Davidson and the estate of Bill Davidson 288 00:10:54,792 --> 00:10:58,278 who are suing Time Warner, you, and other record companies. 289 00:10:58,278 --> 00:11:01,591 Now, what knowledge do you have about this lawsuit? 290 00:11:03,835 --> 00:11:05,492 Uh, I know that 291 00:11:05,492 --> 00:11:09,323 an officer was killed in the line of duty, 292 00:11:09,323 --> 00:11:13,500 by a-- a young male who's on death row currently. 293 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:17,124 His defense to save himself from the chair was that 294 00:11:17,124 --> 00:11:21,922 my music somehow induced him to commit this crime. 295 00:11:21,922 --> 00:11:25,961 And the widow of the slain officer and his children 296 00:11:25,961 --> 00:11:29,447 are suing everybody involved. 297 00:11:29,447 --> 00:11:31,138 "The music made me do it." 298 00:11:31,138 --> 00:11:33,762 That's what Ronald Ray Howard claimed. 299 00:11:33,762 --> 00:11:36,523 Now, the officer's widow is suing Tupac 300 00:11:36,523 --> 00:11:38,836 and his record company for $100 million. 301 00:11:38,836 --> 00:11:41,010 What do the people claim, though? 302 00:11:41,010 --> 00:11:43,012 'Cause there were some lyrics in the song about cop-dusting 303 00:11:43,012 --> 00:11:45,187 - or something like that, right? - Well, actually, 304 00:11:45,187 --> 00:11:46,671 the story that they were talking about 305 00:11:46,671 --> 00:11:48,190 is called "Soulja's Story." 306 00:11:48,190 --> 00:11:49,501 And it wasn't about killing cops at all. 307 00:11:49,501 --> 00:11:51,020 That's just what the media took, 308 00:11:51,020 --> 00:11:53,126 'cause they're gonna take what they want. 309 00:11:53,126 --> 00:11:55,715 It was about somebody who was so scared of police brutality 310 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:58,338 that he panicked when they pulled him over... 311 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,002 ...and it shows how his life fell apart. 312 00:12:07,002 --> 00:12:09,314 At the end of the story, he died. 313 00:12:09,314 --> 00:12:10,868 ♪ Caught a bullet in my head 314 00:12:10,868 --> 00:12:12,662 ♪ The screams never left My mind ♪ 315 00:12:12,662 --> 00:12:14,492 ♪ My brother Caught a bullet too ♪ 316 00:12:14,492 --> 00:12:16,218 ♪ But I think he gonna Pull through ♪ 317 00:12:16,218 --> 00:12:18,323 ♪ 'Cause he deserves to 318 00:12:18,323 --> 00:12:19,842 ♪ This fast life ain't everything they told you ♪ 319 00:12:19,842 --> 00:12:21,671 ♪ They never get much older 320 00:12:21,671 --> 00:12:23,812 ♪ Following the tracks Of a soulja ♪ 321 00:12:23,812 --> 00:12:25,710 But they didn't say that. 322 00:12:25,710 --> 00:12:27,574 They didn't talk about that. They just took what they want. 323 00:12:27,574 --> 00:12:30,404 The media generally has portrayed Tupac 324 00:12:30,404 --> 00:12:32,752 in basically a negative light. 325 00:12:32,752 --> 00:12:35,340 Your song, "I Don't Give an F--" 326 00:12:35,340 --> 00:12:38,688 I start the song out sitting in a paddy wagon, 327 00:12:38,688 --> 00:12:40,829 and the cops are bragging about beating up another brother. 328 00:12:40,829 --> 00:12:43,901 What that shows is what the media on any day 329 00:12:43,901 --> 00:12:46,420 is able to show you about anyone's life. 330 00:12:46,420 --> 00:12:50,528 In reality, people live their life on a day-to-day basis. 331 00:12:50,528 --> 00:12:53,186 So, I feel like my job is to tell the story, the whole story, 332 00:12:53,186 --> 00:12:55,188 and I can't censor, or whatever you say, 333 00:12:55,188 --> 00:12:56,603 censor it or making it right. 334 00:12:56,603 --> 00:12:58,363 It's still censoring it, you know. 335 00:12:58,363 --> 00:12:59,779 We all gotta have the knowledge of what's going on, 336 00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:01,401 and that's what I'm trying to do. 337 00:13:01,401 --> 00:13:03,368 Okay, so you don't advocate cop killing? 338 00:13:03,368 --> 00:13:06,026 Not at all. I don't advocate violence in any way. 339 00:13:06,026 --> 00:13:07,717 My music deals with self-defense. 340 00:13:07,717 --> 00:13:09,547 I'm curious whether the song he was listening to 341 00:13:09,547 --> 00:13:11,860 had anything to do with cop killing, or... 342 00:13:11,860 --> 00:13:13,551 - No. Not-- I'm-- - Not at all? 343 00:13:13,551 --> 00:13:16,209 I just said I don't write songs about cop killing. 344 00:13:16,209 --> 00:13:17,727 But it did have the lyrics-- 345 00:13:17,727 --> 00:13:19,212 Don't six of the songs 346 00:13:19,212 --> 00:13:21,214 - mention cop killing? - No. 347 00:13:21,214 --> 00:13:22,387 - They don't? - Oh, that's not true. 348 00:13:22,387 --> 00:13:23,733 Nope. All my songs talk about 349 00:13:23,733 --> 00:13:25,390 police brutality and self-defense. 350 00:13:25,390 --> 00:13:26,875 Now, that's something different. 351 00:13:28,877 --> 00:13:31,431 If we're gonna talk about police, this man over here 352 00:13:31,431 --> 00:13:33,053 is in a really rough area, 353 00:13:33,053 --> 00:13:34,744 and he puts his life on the line every day. 354 00:13:34,744 --> 00:13:36,574 I got so much respect for him for that, 355 00:13:36,574 --> 00:13:38,058 but look, we have to live in the same neighborhoods 356 00:13:38,058 --> 00:13:39,888 without bulletproof vests, without backup, 357 00:13:39,888 --> 00:13:42,062 without walkie-talkies, without guns, 358 00:13:42,062 --> 00:13:45,134 without tear gas, without pepper spray, without batons. 359 00:13:45,134 --> 00:13:46,895 So, now we have to fix the problem. 360 00:13:46,895 --> 00:13:48,897 Pac knew that media is a machine 361 00:13:48,897 --> 00:13:50,588 that you either work with it, or against it. 362 00:13:50,588 --> 00:13:52,417 So he worked with it. 363 00:13:52,417 --> 00:13:54,316 These people don't see it every day-- 364 00:13:54,316 --> 00:13:56,283 But what I would like to see is for children in our country 365 00:13:56,283 --> 00:13:58,907 to have a better future than what you guys have. 366 00:13:58,907 --> 00:14:01,944 And that's not gonna happen when he's repressing his generation 367 00:14:01,944 --> 00:14:04,153 and his people by saying they have no hope. 368 00:14:04,153 --> 00:14:06,086 What do you know about my people? 369 00:14:06,086 --> 00:14:07,812 - I know a lot about your people. - What do you know about my-- 370 00:14:10,297 --> 00:14:11,678 Just because you give charity, 371 00:14:11,678 --> 00:14:13,438 give money to wipe the guilt away 372 00:14:13,438 --> 00:14:15,337 does not mean you know about the young Black males 373 00:14:15,337 --> 00:14:18,133 and females in today's society. 374 00:14:18,133 --> 00:14:19,928 What would you say is the answer to that? Violence? 375 00:14:19,928 --> 00:14:22,862 No, it's making music. It's what I'm doing now. 376 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:25,140 It sparks dialogue, and that's how laws get made. 377 00:14:25,140 --> 00:14:27,107 That's how change get made. 378 00:14:27,107 --> 00:14:29,834 ♪ I see no changes All I see is racist faces ♪ 379 00:14:29,834 --> 00:14:31,871 ♪ Misplaced hate makes Disgrace to races ♪ 380 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:34,114 ♪ We under, I wonder What it takes to make this ♪ 381 00:14:34,114 --> 00:14:36,289 ♪ One better place Let's erase the wasted ♪ 382 00:14:36,289 --> 00:14:38,636 ♪ Take the evil out the people They'll be actin' right ♪ 383 00:14:38,636 --> 00:14:40,845 ♪ 'Cause both Black and White Are smokin' crack tonight ♪ 384 00:14:40,845 --> 00:14:42,951 ♪ And the only time we chill Is when we kill each other ♪ 385 00:14:42,951 --> 00:14:45,298 ♪ It takes skill to be real Time to heal each other ♪ 386 00:14:45,298 --> 00:14:47,541 Guys, get serious, all BS aside, 387 00:14:47,541 --> 00:14:50,959 it all comes down to, we got to survive here in this country, 388 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:52,822 'cause I'm not going back to Africa. 389 00:14:52,822 --> 00:14:54,824 I mean, if this is truly a melting pot, 390 00:14:54,824 --> 00:14:56,481 then we really need to be like that. 391 00:14:56,481 --> 00:14:58,483 White folks, Black folks, Korean folks, 392 00:14:58,483 --> 00:15:01,348 Mexican folks, Puerto Ricans, we gotta understand each other. 393 00:15:01,348 --> 00:15:03,488 He was teaching us to understand each other 394 00:15:03,488 --> 00:15:05,490 and to communicate, making more of an impact 395 00:15:05,490 --> 00:15:07,734 on the people coming behind us. 396 00:15:07,734 --> 00:15:09,494 He got that from the Panther Party. 397 00:15:09,494 --> 00:15:11,980 The person that I'm gonna talk about next 398 00:15:11,980 --> 00:15:14,051 is a second-generation revolutionary. 399 00:15:14,051 --> 00:15:16,329 He couldn't bring gangbanger to hip-hop. 400 00:15:16,329 --> 00:15:18,227 What he could bring was a military mind 401 00:15:18,227 --> 00:15:20,022 and being war-ready. 402 00:15:20,022 --> 00:15:21,679 His mother was one of the New York Panther 21, 403 00:15:21,679 --> 00:15:23,543 - Afeni Shakur. - And to know 404 00:15:23,543 --> 00:15:25,338 what you're talking about when you're speaking. 405 00:15:25,338 --> 00:15:27,374 I talked to you earlier about Dr. Mutulu Shakur, 406 00:15:27,374 --> 00:15:29,687 one of my young brothers in congress. 407 00:15:29,687 --> 00:15:34,002 A person who I've known all his life, brother Tupac Shakur. 408 00:15:34,002 --> 00:15:36,245 Malcolm X Grassroots Movement. 409 00:15:36,245 --> 00:15:38,868 First, I want to say peace to my mother. 410 00:15:38,868 --> 00:15:41,423 That's where I saw the Black Panther part of him 411 00:15:41,423 --> 00:15:42,700 'Cause I wouldn't have been here 412 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:44,426 if it wasn't for my mother. 413 00:15:44,426 --> 00:15:46,393 And I looked on the front of this thing and it said, 414 00:15:46,393 --> 00:15:48,913 "Start from within to rebuild our original greatness," right? 415 00:15:48,913 --> 00:15:50,880 Okay, well, that's what my mother did. 416 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,779 During the time when women were scared to speak up, 417 00:15:52,779 --> 00:15:55,955 but a Black Panther, she spoke at Harvard, Yale, everywhere, 418 00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:58,750 and now, it ain't time to cool out and banquets and all that. 419 00:15:58,750 --> 00:16:01,270 It's still on, just like it was on when you was young 420 00:16:01,270 --> 00:16:02,892 and you wanna say, "Fuck that." 421 00:16:02,892 --> 00:16:04,204 Just like you said "fuck that" back then. 422 00:16:04,204 --> 00:16:05,895 Pac was speaking, 423 00:16:05,895 --> 00:16:07,587 and a woman next to him leaned over and said, 424 00:16:07,587 --> 00:16:10,038 "Watch your language, please." And Pac said... 425 00:16:10,038 --> 00:16:12,902 I apologize, I apologize, but check this out. 426 00:16:12,902 --> 00:16:14,456 You can't be no more offended by my cursing 427 00:16:14,456 --> 00:16:16,596 than what's really going on. 428 00:16:16,596 --> 00:16:19,909 The room went silent, because he was right. 429 00:16:19,909 --> 00:16:23,913 The thing about Tupac is, it didn't matter who it was, 430 00:16:23,913 --> 00:16:26,054 you couldn't tell him anything. 431 00:16:26,054 --> 00:16:28,435 How come now I'm 20 years old and ready to start some shit up, 432 00:16:28,435 --> 00:16:30,299 everybody telling me to calm down? 433 00:16:30,299 --> 00:16:33,061 When you tell him to calm down, that was the trigger word. 434 00:16:33,061 --> 00:16:34,614 Well, fuck that! 435 00:16:34,614 --> 00:16:36,443 He was fighting with the elders. 436 00:16:36,443 --> 00:16:38,583 If we keep looking for who got the most colors on 437 00:16:38,583 --> 00:16:41,000 and who got the baddest dashiki, we still gonna get-- 438 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,760 excuse my language, fucked! 439 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,245 Because we coming up in a totally different world. 440 00:16:45,245 --> 00:16:47,972 This is not the same world that you had. 441 00:16:47,972 --> 00:16:50,078 He didn't wanna be another KRS-One and Chuck D, 442 00:16:50,078 --> 00:16:52,632 and Martin Luther King preaching to the converted. 443 00:16:52,632 --> 00:16:54,289 In our strive to be enlightened, 444 00:16:54,289 --> 00:16:56,256 we forgot about all our brothers in the street. 445 00:16:56,256 --> 00:16:59,121 About all our dope dealers, our pushers, and our pimps, 446 00:16:59,121 --> 00:17:01,675 and that's who's teaching the new generation. 447 00:17:01,675 --> 00:17:03,677 - That's right. - 'Cause y'all not doing it. 448 00:17:03,677 --> 00:17:04,816 Pac knew most of the desolate out there 449 00:17:04,816 --> 00:17:06,335 don't even read. 450 00:17:06,335 --> 00:17:08,096 The cats he was trying to reach 451 00:17:08,096 --> 00:17:10,339 don't know nothing about African-American history. 452 00:17:10,339 --> 00:17:12,100 We didn't get any of that history 453 00:17:12,100 --> 00:17:13,687 from all of those souljas that we lost. 454 00:17:13,687 --> 00:17:15,793 We did not grow up with our parents. 455 00:17:15,793 --> 00:17:18,002 We grew up BC: Before Crack. 456 00:17:18,002 --> 00:17:19,624 That should say it all. 457 00:17:19,624 --> 00:17:21,454 So, I take all of this lightly. 458 00:17:21,454 --> 00:17:23,180 What I want you to take seriously, 459 00:17:23,180 --> 00:17:25,527 is what we have to do for the youth. 460 00:17:25,527 --> 00:17:28,323 The young Black males are the future of us, 461 00:17:28,323 --> 00:17:31,636 and the young Black sisters are the future of us. 462 00:17:31,636 --> 00:17:33,638 It's gonna be what you put into it. 463 00:17:33,638 --> 00:17:36,641 If you don't put shit into it, don't get mad when we blow up. 464 00:17:36,641 --> 00:17:40,473 Changes. In '92, it's time for us as a people 465 00:17:40,473 --> 00:17:42,026 to start making some changes. 466 00:17:42,026 --> 00:17:43,821 Let's change the way we eat, 467 00:17:43,821 --> 00:17:45,719 let's change the way we live, 468 00:17:45,719 --> 00:17:47,859 and let's change the way we treat each other. 469 00:17:47,859 --> 00:17:49,723 You see, the old way wasn't working, 470 00:17:49,723 --> 00:17:52,864 so it's on us to do what we gotta do to survive. 471 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,499 We continue with Tupac Shakur. 472 00:18:06,499 --> 00:18:08,017 And let's talk a little bit 473 00:18:08,017 --> 00:18:09,881 about what do you think your parents 474 00:18:09,881 --> 00:18:12,574 were trying to accomplish with the movement? 475 00:18:12,574 --> 00:18:15,163 I think that my mother-- like a lot of people, 476 00:18:15,163 --> 00:18:18,235 like a lot of 'em, like Fred Hampton, Mark Clark, 477 00:18:18,235 --> 00:18:20,409 uh, Harriet Tubman, they felt like 478 00:18:20,409 --> 00:18:25,690 they were laying tracks for the generation to come. 479 00:18:25,690 --> 00:18:27,727 What happened to her? Why was she in jail? 480 00:18:27,727 --> 00:18:30,350 Because, like-- you know, there's racism. 481 00:18:30,350 --> 00:18:33,457 So, when the Panthers hit, the government panicked. 482 00:18:35,183 --> 00:18:36,632 1968. 483 00:18:37,806 --> 00:18:39,877 The Panthers had expanded from 484 00:18:39,877 --> 00:18:42,569 that original office in Oakland, California, 485 00:18:42,569 --> 00:18:44,571 to about 30 different cities. 486 00:18:44,571 --> 00:18:45,883 Panther headquarters 487 00:18:45,883 --> 00:18:46,918 is in Berkeley, California. 488 00:18:46,918 --> 00:18:48,575 The Panthers moved here 489 00:18:48,575 --> 00:18:50,715 after their old headquarters in Oakland 490 00:18:50,715 --> 00:18:52,890 were shot up by two policemen who had been drinking on duty. 491 00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:54,926 The Oakland Police, well known for its brutality, 492 00:18:54,926 --> 00:18:57,584 never misses the chance to harass the Black Panthers 493 00:18:57,584 --> 00:18:59,379 and even to shoot them. 494 00:18:59,379 --> 00:19:02,210 Attacks began early on in the Black Panther Party. 495 00:19:02,210 --> 00:19:03,935 First, Huey Newton gets into 496 00:19:03,935 --> 00:19:06,559 what the Oakland Police says was a shootout. 497 00:19:06,559 --> 00:19:09,078 The facts: Nine shots, one dead policeman. 498 00:19:09,078 --> 00:19:10,908 Another wounded, and Newton shot. 499 00:19:10,908 --> 00:19:12,737 And then, Bobby Hutton, 500 00:19:12,737 --> 00:19:15,119 the first to join the Panthers in Oakland, 501 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,261 was shot in the back and killed at age 17. 502 00:19:19,261 --> 00:19:21,229 He was running without arms, 503 00:19:21,229 --> 00:19:22,816 having left the basement where he and Eldridge Cleaver 504 00:19:22,816 --> 00:19:24,818 had taken refuge after a gun battle 505 00:19:24,818 --> 00:19:27,649 involving 50 policemen, shooting a thousand rounds. 506 00:19:27,649 --> 00:19:30,583 And then it became more clear our lives were in danger. 507 00:19:30,583 --> 00:19:33,931 We just came from Bobby Hutton's funeral... 508 00:19:33,931 --> 00:19:36,416 and I'm gonna do as much as I can 509 00:19:36,416 --> 00:19:38,315 to inform White people 510 00:19:38,315 --> 00:19:40,420 of what they don't know. 511 00:19:40,420 --> 00:19:42,250 That I myself as a White man 512 00:19:42,250 --> 00:19:44,321 have got a long way to go and a lot to learn. 513 00:19:44,321 --> 00:19:46,426 I haven't suffered the way you've suffered. 514 00:19:46,426 --> 00:19:48,601 And somehow, that has to be translated 515 00:19:48,601 --> 00:19:51,811 to the White community now. 516 00:19:51,811 --> 00:19:54,158 Then, my godfather, Geronimo Pratt... 517 00:19:54,158 --> 00:19:55,849 Geronimo Pratt. 518 00:19:55,849 --> 00:19:56,988 ...had a top-rank position with the Panthers 519 00:19:56,988 --> 00:19:58,438 on the West Coast. 520 00:19:58,438 --> 00:20:00,268 Geronimo was a war hero. 521 00:20:00,268 --> 00:20:02,856 Silver Star, Bronze Star. Purple Heart. 522 00:20:02,856 --> 00:20:06,135 And he trained the Black Panther Party 523 00:20:06,135 --> 00:20:08,517 with his military skills, not only in California, 524 00:20:08,517 --> 00:20:09,725 but all over the country. 525 00:20:11,796 --> 00:20:13,453 ♪ Come with me 526 00:20:13,453 --> 00:20:15,973 ♪ Hail Mary Nigga, run quick, see ♪ 527 00:20:15,973 --> 00:20:18,182 ♪ What do we have here now? 528 00:20:18,182 --> 00:20:20,046 ♪ Do you wanna ride or die? 529 00:20:20,046 --> 00:20:21,806 ♪ La di-di-da La, la, la, la ♪ 530 00:20:21,806 --> 00:20:25,327 1969, the Year of the Panther. 531 00:20:25,327 --> 00:20:27,018 This is the year that we win. 532 00:20:27,018 --> 00:20:28,710 I was really excited. 533 00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:31,160 I said, "I'm gonna get my gun today, yay!" 534 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,302 More books to read... 535 00:20:34,302 --> 00:20:37,857 because the greatest, most lethal weapon 536 00:20:37,857 --> 00:20:40,653 is a free and armed Black mind. 537 00:20:40,653 --> 00:20:43,380 So, the FBI director, J. Edgar Hoover, 538 00:20:43,380 --> 00:20:45,382 the most powerful person in Washington, 539 00:20:45,382 --> 00:20:47,522 testifies before Congress. 540 00:20:47,522 --> 00:20:48,730 "... of the Black extremist groups, 541 00:20:48,730 --> 00:20:50,387 the Black Panthers represent 542 00:20:50,387 --> 00:20:52,837 the greatest internal threat to the nation." 543 00:20:52,837 --> 00:20:55,495 And with that, he got the funding he needed 544 00:20:55,495 --> 00:20:58,671 and the permission to do anything he wanted to do 545 00:20:58,671 --> 00:21:01,190 to destroy the Black Panther Party. 546 00:21:01,190 --> 00:21:04,366 - ♪ La di-di-da la la la la - COINTELPRO. 547 00:21:04,366 --> 00:21:06,230 ♪ I ain't a killer But don't push me ♪ 548 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:07,852 ♪ Revenge is like The sweetest joy ♪ 549 00:21:07,852 --> 00:21:09,337 ♪ Next to gettin' pussy 550 00:21:09,337 --> 00:21:10,924 COINTELPRO was an acronym 551 00:21:10,924 --> 00:21:12,581 for the Counter Intelligence Program. 552 00:21:12,581 --> 00:21:14,687 It was first used against the Communist Party. 553 00:21:14,687 --> 00:21:16,896 After Malcolm X was assassinated, 554 00:21:16,896 --> 00:21:18,553 Hoover needed to make sure 555 00:21:18,553 --> 00:21:20,279 there would not be a new Black messiah. 556 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,211 Martin Luther King was a target. 557 00:21:22,211 --> 00:21:24,938 Stokely Carmichael, H. Rap Brown, Max Stanford. 558 00:21:24,938 --> 00:21:26,699 The Black Panther Party was a target. 559 00:21:26,699 --> 00:21:28,597 ♪ Picture paragraphs unloaded 560 00:21:28,597 --> 00:21:30,737 ♪ Wise words bein' quoted 561 00:21:30,737 --> 00:21:32,774 ♪ Peeped the weakness in This rap game and sewed it ♪ 562 00:21:32,774 --> 00:21:35,224 Three hundred Los Angeles policemen 563 00:21:35,224 --> 00:21:38,538 are involved in a raging gun battle for nearly five hours. 564 00:21:38,538 --> 00:21:42,784 Special Sniper Squad borrowed armored vehicles from the Army, 565 00:21:42,784 --> 00:21:45,545 employing the modern weapons of warfare used in Vietnam. 566 00:21:45,545 --> 00:21:47,236 A lot of the shootouts and raids 567 00:21:47,236 --> 00:21:49,238 on the Panthers were engineered by the FBI. 568 00:21:49,238 --> 00:21:51,068 They have a search warrant for this apartment. 569 00:21:51,068 --> 00:21:52,759 They raided every Panther's house, 570 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:54,243 especially the ones they felt like 571 00:21:54,243 --> 00:21:56,245 could do the most damage as an orator. 572 00:21:56,245 --> 00:21:59,076 The most famous example of that is the murder of Fred Hampton. 573 00:21:59,076 --> 00:22:01,078 Fred Hampton. 574 00:22:01,078 --> 00:22:02,424 Fred Hampton was a young man. 575 00:22:02,424 --> 00:22:03,736 21 years old. 576 00:22:03,736 --> 00:22:05,324 The Defense Minister 577 00:22:05,324 --> 00:22:07,153 for the Illinois Black Panther Party. 578 00:22:07,153 --> 00:22:09,155 - I just want to tell you... - A man of peace. 579 00:22:09,155 --> 00:22:11,571 ...that when Bobby Seale and Huey P. Newton 580 00:22:11,571 --> 00:22:15,610 got together in 1966, they got together as peacemakers, 581 00:22:15,610 --> 00:22:18,164 - not as peace-breakers. - But an FBI informer 582 00:22:18,164 --> 00:22:20,822 drew the floor plans to Hampton's apartment 583 00:22:20,822 --> 00:22:22,824 and he gave that to the Chicago Police Department. 584 00:22:22,824 --> 00:22:24,584 For 12 minutes, 585 00:22:24,584 --> 00:22:26,172 there was gun firing in that apartment, 586 00:22:26,172 --> 00:22:28,105 yet the federal grand jury concludes 587 00:22:28,105 --> 00:22:30,314 that only one possible shot 588 00:22:30,314 --> 00:22:32,523 could've come from a Panther weapon. 589 00:22:42,050 --> 00:22:43,638 A 20-year-old chairman 590 00:22:43,638 --> 00:22:45,294 of the Illinois Black Panther Party, 591 00:22:45,294 --> 00:22:47,296 Fred Hampton, was shot and killed 592 00:22:47,296 --> 00:22:50,299 in a pre-dawn shootout in his West Side apartment. 593 00:22:50,299 --> 00:22:55,374 Fred Hampton was killed December 4th, 1969. 594 00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:57,134 Another party member, 595 00:22:57,134 --> 00:22:58,791 22-year-old Mark Clark of Peoria, 596 00:22:58,791 --> 00:23:00,206 also died in the shootout. 597 00:23:00,206 --> 00:23:02,139 The Year of the Panther. 598 00:23:02,139 --> 00:23:04,486 Ironically, more Panthers got killed 599 00:23:04,486 --> 00:23:06,868 and went to prison that year than any other year. 600 00:23:06,868 --> 00:23:09,388 While there is no evidence to support the theory 601 00:23:09,388 --> 00:23:11,666 of a government plot to smash the party, 602 00:23:11,666 --> 00:23:14,185 local police have responded, in some cases 603 00:23:14,185 --> 00:23:15,808 with intelligence provided 604 00:23:15,808 --> 00:23:18,155 by the FBI's task force on the Panthers 605 00:23:18,155 --> 00:23:21,054 by raiding virtually every local headquarter. 606 00:23:21,054 --> 00:23:23,816 Files confiscated, even burned. 607 00:23:23,816 --> 00:23:26,163 It was the year of the L.A. shootout 608 00:23:26,163 --> 00:23:27,889 that offices were bombed, 609 00:23:27,889 --> 00:23:30,512 that they had brothers on the streets naked 610 00:23:30,512 --> 00:23:32,411 like they were runaway slaves. 611 00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:34,999 Literally, 12 weeks after that New Year's issue, 612 00:23:34,999 --> 00:23:38,727 I was in prison facing 360-plus years, 613 00:23:38,727 --> 00:23:41,178 along with Afeni Shakur, Lumumba Shakur. 614 00:23:41,178 --> 00:23:43,663 The grand jury has returned an indictment 615 00:23:43,663 --> 00:23:46,355 charging members of the Black Panther Party 616 00:23:46,355 --> 00:23:49,911 with a conspiracy to bomb New York department stores, 617 00:23:49,911 --> 00:23:52,396 Macy's, Alexander's, Korvettes... 618 00:23:52,396 --> 00:23:54,881 April 2nd of '69... 619 00:24:00,059 --> 00:24:01,923 Like, 5:00 in the morning, 620 00:24:01,923 --> 00:24:04,201 the police put a match to my mother's door and said... 621 00:24:07,687 --> 00:24:09,551 So, my mother opened the door and they burst in, 622 00:24:09,551 --> 00:24:11,242 put a shotgun to her belly, 623 00:24:11,242 --> 00:24:12,761 a gun to her head and said, "Don't move..." 624 00:24:14,694 --> 00:24:16,869 ...you're under arrest. 625 00:24:21,218 --> 00:24:22,944 In my case, a tactical patrol unit 626 00:24:22,944 --> 00:24:24,773 kicked in the door of my grandmother's house, 627 00:24:24,773 --> 00:24:27,051 20 cops rushed in. So, my last words to Grandma 628 00:24:27,051 --> 00:24:29,226 as they were taking me out in handcuffs was, 629 00:24:29,226 --> 00:24:31,262 "Call the Panther office." 630 00:24:31,262 --> 00:24:33,126 Information was received that some 10 or 12 members 631 00:24:33,126 --> 00:24:35,577 of the Black Panther Party in New York have been arrested, 632 00:24:35,577 --> 00:24:37,717 with pigs busting down doors while they're sleeping. 633 00:24:37,717 --> 00:24:39,788 I recall driving in, FBI... 634 00:24:41,721 --> 00:24:43,482 I can't think of anything they didn't have. 635 00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:46,415 Machine guns, shotguns, ...357 Magnums, and rifles. 636 00:24:46,415 --> 00:24:49,246 I can't speak too highly of the detectives, 637 00:24:49,246 --> 00:24:52,249 200 of whom are rounding up the defendants. 638 00:24:52,249 --> 00:24:54,596 If we'd have run, they would probably shot each other 639 00:24:54,596 --> 00:24:56,564 because it was just simply too much weaponry. 640 00:24:56,564 --> 00:24:58,738 The element of danger was great to the men involved. 641 00:24:58,738 --> 00:25:00,257 Did they encounter any resistance? 642 00:25:00,257 --> 00:25:02,155 No, they haven't. 643 00:25:02,155 --> 00:25:03,605 Chief, what types of weapons were seized? 644 00:25:03,605 --> 00:25:06,953 Arms, revolvers, rifles, masks, et cetera. 645 00:25:06,953 --> 00:25:09,473 Did they have bow and arrows, and spears? 646 00:25:09,473 --> 00:25:12,269 We were told that. We had the report. 647 00:25:12,269 --> 00:25:14,754 When I learned about the arrests, 648 00:25:14,754 --> 00:25:16,929 somebody called and said, "Turn on the TV." 649 00:25:16,929 --> 00:25:19,448 It was headline news that 21 Panthers 650 00:25:19,448 --> 00:25:21,589 were gonna unleash simultaneous attacks 651 00:25:21,589 --> 00:25:23,625 against New York City. 652 00:25:23,625 --> 00:25:25,006 The indictment also charges 653 00:25:25,006 --> 00:25:26,939 attempted murder, arson... 654 00:25:26,939 --> 00:25:29,148 I was horrified, but the charges were irrelevant 655 00:25:29,148 --> 00:25:30,632 because I knew they weren't true. 656 00:25:30,632 --> 00:25:32,807 It was the $100,000 bail. 657 00:25:32,807 --> 00:25:34,774 No way she was getting out of jail. 658 00:25:34,774 --> 00:25:36,604 What does it do to a young man 659 00:25:36,604 --> 00:25:38,606 when all of your heroes have been to jail? 660 00:25:38,606 --> 00:25:41,470 - Are you bitter? - Yeah. I am. 661 00:25:41,470 --> 00:25:43,645 I am angry because-- I'm angry for my mother 662 00:25:43,645 --> 00:25:46,199 because she gave up a lot of her life for this. 663 00:25:46,199 --> 00:25:48,374 I'm angry for Fred Hampton's family 664 00:25:48,374 --> 00:25:50,341 because they lost a straight-up soulja. 665 00:25:50,341 --> 00:25:53,206 Fred Hampton was killed while I was in prison. 666 00:25:53,206 --> 00:25:55,795 And what touched Tupac about Fred Hampton 667 00:25:55,795 --> 00:25:57,348 is his words: 668 00:25:57,348 --> 00:25:59,350 "You can jail a revolutionary, 669 00:25:59,350 --> 00:26:01,560 but you can't jail the revolution." 670 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,492 "You can kill a revolutionary, 671 00:26:03,492 --> 00:26:05,391 but you cannot kill the revolution." 672 00:26:05,391 --> 00:26:07,566 My mother knew that freedom wouldn't come in her lifetime. 673 00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:09,982 Just like I know, that it won't come in mines. 674 00:26:09,982 --> 00:26:12,501 But it's a matter of either we stay like this, 675 00:26:12,501 --> 00:26:14,055 or somebody sacrifices. 676 00:26:14,055 --> 00:26:16,333 Somebody lay a track so we don't stay 677 00:26:16,333 --> 00:26:19,543 in a 360-degree, deadly circle. 678 00:26:19,543 --> 00:26:21,649 So, that's how I gotta live, and that's how I have to die. 679 00:26:21,649 --> 00:26:23,340 And that's how my music has to be, 680 00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:26,895 and my acting, and my producing, and my interviews. 681 00:26:26,895 --> 00:26:29,173 Everything has to be for the love of Black people. 682 00:26:29,173 --> 00:26:31,659 God bless you. You're a very special young man. 683 00:26:31,659 --> 00:26:33,005 - I appreciate that. - Okay. 684 00:26:41,116 --> 00:26:42,601 Poetic Justice? 685 00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:44,603 Yeah. 686 00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,397 He enjoyed that film. 687 00:26:46,397 --> 00:26:48,365 He liked working with Janet Jackson. 688 00:26:48,365 --> 00:26:51,195 Because he was like, "Wow, look at her celebrity," 689 00:26:51,195 --> 00:26:52,887 and he just couldn't believe 690 00:26:52,887 --> 00:26:55,544 she would even act with somebody like him. 691 00:26:55,544 --> 00:26:57,408 "Somebody like him"? 692 00:26:57,408 --> 00:27:00,204 Not a big movie star. You know, a rapper. 693 00:27:00,204 --> 00:27:02,103 I really enjoyed this picture. 694 00:27:02,103 --> 00:27:04,381 Uh, you play a guy named Lucky. Tell me about him. 695 00:27:04,381 --> 00:27:07,695 Lucky is a responsible father 696 00:27:07,695 --> 00:27:09,697 trying to deal with some pain from the past, 697 00:27:09,697 --> 00:27:11,457 and trying to get through daily survival 698 00:27:11,457 --> 00:27:12,769 in South Central Los Angeles. 699 00:27:14,874 --> 00:27:16,911 Now, he grows up in a tough neighborhood 700 00:27:16,911 --> 00:27:20,121 with a lot of temptations to move away from his ambitions. 701 00:27:20,121 --> 00:27:21,950 You had the same kind of experience. 702 00:27:21,950 --> 00:27:24,090 So is this a role that you feel very much at home with? 703 00:27:24,090 --> 00:27:25,713 Yes, anytime it's a role 704 00:27:25,713 --> 00:27:27,611 for a young Black male that deals with pain, 705 00:27:27,611 --> 00:27:29,889 that's my role, I'm made for that role. 706 00:27:29,889 --> 00:27:31,650 Leave them crayons there, I'll get 'em later. 707 00:27:31,650 --> 00:27:33,652 What we don't see a lot of in films 708 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:36,309 is a Black man and a Black woman together. 709 00:27:36,309 --> 00:27:38,139 You know, that's the happy ending. 710 00:27:38,139 --> 00:27:40,417 So, that's what is I think is gonna be new 711 00:27:40,417 --> 00:27:41,901 and hopeful about this film. 712 00:27:41,901 --> 00:27:43,592 He enjoyed making that film, 713 00:27:43,592 --> 00:27:46,112 and Afeni came out to Los Angeles. 714 00:27:46,112 --> 00:27:48,908 So, Tupac's like, "I want my mother to be my PR person." 715 00:27:48,908 --> 00:27:50,910 And I'm like, "What does she know about PR?" 716 00:27:50,910 --> 00:27:52,809 "It doesn't matter, I want her to be my PR person." 717 00:27:52,809 --> 00:27:56,088 Afeni was an extremely intelligent woman. 718 00:27:56,088 --> 00:27:57,986 I had a lot of respect for her 719 00:27:57,986 --> 00:28:00,161 because I knew the history of the fact 720 00:28:00,161 --> 00:28:02,991 that she acted as her own attorney, 721 00:28:02,991 --> 00:28:05,925 and had all these charges against her. 722 00:28:05,925 --> 00:28:08,272 She had never been to law school, 723 00:28:08,272 --> 00:28:10,654 and she never, ever got the credit 724 00:28:10,654 --> 00:28:12,829 that she deserved for that trial. 725 00:28:12,829 --> 00:28:15,624 In New York today, pretrial hearings opened 726 00:28:15,624 --> 00:28:18,282 for 13 of 22 Black Panthers 727 00:28:18,282 --> 00:28:20,181 indicted on charges of conspiracy 728 00:28:20,181 --> 00:28:22,666 to bomb police stations, department stores, 729 00:28:22,666 --> 00:28:25,117 subway stations, a commuter railway, 730 00:28:25,117 --> 00:28:27,188 and a city botanical garden. 731 00:28:27,188 --> 00:28:29,673 The Panther 21 trial was the longest trial 732 00:28:29,673 --> 00:28:32,469 in the state of New York, and the most expensive trial. 733 00:28:32,469 --> 00:28:34,471 The tone of the pretrial hearing 734 00:28:34,471 --> 00:28:37,198 was established early by the demonstrators outside 735 00:28:37,198 --> 00:28:39,131 circling the criminal court building 736 00:28:39,131 --> 00:28:41,133 which houses the state's Supreme Court chambers. 737 00:28:41,133 --> 00:28:42,790 Ironically, the crowd... 738 00:28:42,790 --> 00:28:44,481 So, the beginning months of the trial 739 00:28:44,481 --> 00:28:46,172 were pretrial hearings, 740 00:28:46,172 --> 00:28:48,657 which started ten months after the arrests. 741 00:28:48,657 --> 00:28:50,211 We were all in prison, 742 00:28:50,211 --> 00:28:52,213 and we were separated. 743 00:28:52,213 --> 00:28:54,491 I was on Rikers Island, 744 00:28:54,491 --> 00:28:56,665 Lumumba and the others were in the Tombs. 745 00:28:56,665 --> 00:28:59,082 Afeni and Joan were at the Women's House of Detention. 746 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,568 I hate prison. 747 00:29:02,568 --> 00:29:04,501 I hate going to prison. 748 00:29:04,501 --> 00:29:07,884 I hate the sound of the first door when it closes. 749 00:29:07,884 --> 00:29:09,817 The first time I went to see Afeni 750 00:29:09,817 --> 00:29:12,820 was the first time I had ever been in a jail. 751 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:14,856 She was defiant. 752 00:29:14,856 --> 00:29:18,170 When all these bars that intrude within my sight, 753 00:29:18,170 --> 00:29:21,518 these shivering lines that test my physical might. 754 00:29:21,518 --> 00:29:24,693 She did not cry because she was in jail. 755 00:29:24,693 --> 00:29:26,834 She fought because she was in jail. 756 00:29:26,834 --> 00:29:30,527 Do they not know who I am, or from where I came? 757 00:29:30,527 --> 00:29:32,529 She didn't consider herself a victim. 758 00:29:32,529 --> 00:29:35,187 I'm not to be burdened by such barbaric games. 759 00:29:35,187 --> 00:29:37,845 Because she was in jail because of her belief. 760 00:29:37,845 --> 00:29:41,193 My soul is not mine. I cannot give it away. 761 00:29:41,193 --> 00:29:43,851 My ears will never wash away what I will say. 762 00:29:43,851 --> 00:29:46,715 Lumumba Shakur was the lead defendant. 763 00:29:46,715 --> 00:29:48,545 Yeah, they were in love. 764 00:29:48,545 --> 00:29:51,790 But Lumumba was the chief architect of the 21, 765 00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:53,377 according to an indictment, 766 00:29:53,377 --> 00:29:55,586 so he had a lot of shit on his plate. 767 00:29:55,586 --> 00:29:58,037 And I'm not gonna say she overwhelmed him, 768 00:29:58,037 --> 00:30:00,074 but she kept his ass on his toes. 769 00:30:00,074 --> 00:30:01,213 It was an explosive relationship. 770 00:30:01,213 --> 00:30:02,766 Yeah. 771 00:30:02,766 --> 00:30:04,595 Loving and tense, 772 00:30:04,595 --> 00:30:06,563 all at the same time. 773 00:30:06,563 --> 00:30:09,773 And during that time, we come back and forth to court 774 00:30:09,773 --> 00:30:12,086 so that we could prepare for trial. 775 00:30:12,086 --> 00:30:15,572 We knew that we were not going to receive justice, 776 00:30:15,572 --> 00:30:19,610 but we also understood that we weren't special. 777 00:30:19,610 --> 00:30:23,097 Because of that big loophole in the 13th Amendment 778 00:30:23,097 --> 00:30:24,892 that slavery would be abolished everywhere 779 00:30:24,892 --> 00:30:26,307 except in prison. 780 00:30:26,307 --> 00:30:28,067 Prisons make money. 781 00:30:28,067 --> 00:30:30,587 So men and women all across this country, 782 00:30:30,587 --> 00:30:32,485 the Black community, the Brown, 783 00:30:32,485 --> 00:30:35,454 White, the Yellow, queer community 784 00:30:35,454 --> 00:30:38,250 were arrested under false pretenses 785 00:30:38,250 --> 00:30:40,079 with bails that were not bails at all. 786 00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,081 That they were ransoms. 787 00:30:42,081 --> 00:30:45,153 So, whatever happened to us was part of a bigger fight, 788 00:30:45,153 --> 00:30:48,122 and we wanted to educate the masses. 789 00:30:48,122 --> 00:30:50,607 Now, Afeni, would phrase things in a way 790 00:30:50,607 --> 00:30:52,471 that you hadn't heard before. 791 00:30:52,471 --> 00:30:55,336 So, she thought the best way to do that for herself 792 00:30:55,336 --> 00:30:56,958 was to speak for herself. 793 00:31:11,386 --> 00:31:13,181 We were petrified, 794 00:31:13,181 --> 00:31:15,183 because we knew that she weren't a lawyer. 795 00:31:15,183 --> 00:31:16,840 And it was Lumumba who said, 796 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,531 "I don't know if that's a good idea, 797 00:31:18,531 --> 00:31:21,189 because, Afeni, you can get emotional." 798 00:31:21,189 --> 00:31:24,365 So, it was a spirited conversation to say the least. 799 00:31:24,365 --> 00:31:26,298 And then, Charles McKinney, 800 00:31:26,298 --> 00:31:27,955 our most respected attorney, 801 00:31:27,955 --> 00:31:29,957 said this might not be a bad idea. 802 00:31:29,957 --> 00:31:32,131 Because a defendant didn't have the freedom 803 00:31:32,131 --> 00:31:33,995 to address the jury directly. 804 00:31:33,995 --> 00:31:38,551 But Afeni, representing herself, could talk directly to the judge 805 00:31:38,551 --> 00:31:42,486 and most importantly, talk directly to the jury. 806 00:31:42,486 --> 00:31:46,145 And we then saw this trial as... 807 00:31:46,145 --> 00:31:48,389 a political education class. 808 00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:51,150 I have a revolutionary story that I must tell, 809 00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:55,154 and my hands refuse to be beaten by this tormented cell. 810 00:31:55,154 --> 00:31:58,847 And when she got up there, bro, everybody was like, "Oh, shit." 811 00:31:58,847 --> 00:32:00,194 There's a force in here... 812 00:32:00,194 --> 00:32:01,712 "I'm on Afeni's team." 813 00:32:01,712 --> 00:32:03,576 A whole new Black colony. 814 00:32:03,576 --> 00:32:04,923 Whenever she spoke, it was like poetry. 815 00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:06,579 A motivated force, 816 00:32:06,579 --> 00:32:08,857 ready to make liberation a living reality. 817 00:32:08,857 --> 00:32:10,514 And then after 11 months, 818 00:32:10,514 --> 00:32:13,345 we raised the first $100,000 819 00:32:13,345 --> 00:32:15,347 and voted that Afeni should be the first person out. 820 00:32:15,347 --> 00:32:17,004 I can hear their voices 821 00:32:17,004 --> 00:32:18,695 clamoring through these forgotten wrongs. 822 00:32:18,695 --> 00:32:20,524 Afeni could dispel this myth 823 00:32:20,524 --> 00:32:23,010 that we were just angry, murderous Black men. 824 00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:25,081 Freedom now, right here on Earth. 825 00:32:25,081 --> 00:32:27,014 To hell with laws. 826 00:32:27,014 --> 00:32:29,085 We've just heard a poem written by Afeni Shakur 827 00:32:29,085 --> 00:32:31,363 - after her release from jail. - She was the star, 828 00:32:31,363 --> 00:32:33,710 and everybody trying to get to her. 829 00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:35,367 Her son, same thing. 830 00:32:37,127 --> 00:32:39,095 ♪ Back to get wreck 831 00:32:39,095 --> 00:32:41,235 ♪ All respect to those Who break their neck ♪ 832 00:32:41,235 --> 00:32:43,202 ♪ To keep their hoes in check 833 00:32:43,202 --> 00:32:45,204 ♪ 'Cause, oh, they sweat A brother majorly ♪ 834 00:32:45,204 --> 00:32:47,241 ♪ And I don't know why Your girl keeps paging me ♪ 835 00:32:47,241 --> 00:32:49,415 - ♪ I get around - "I Get Around" 836 00:32:49,415 --> 00:32:52,039 was Tupac's first solo, bona fide hit record. 837 00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:53,937 The funnest day of my life. 838 00:32:53,937 --> 00:32:56,802 It was this mansion in Malibu with a lot of women. 839 00:32:56,802 --> 00:32:58,562 It was like we had a party, 840 00:32:58,562 --> 00:33:02,463 and we shot the video during our breaks. 841 00:33:02,463 --> 00:33:05,086 ♪ She tells me she needs me Cries when she leaves me ♪ 842 00:33:05,086 --> 00:33:06,950 ♪ And every time she sees me She squeeze me ♪ 843 00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:08,779 ♪ Lady, take it easy 844 00:33:08,779 --> 00:33:10,919 ♪ Hate to say I'm sleazy But tease me ♪ 845 00:33:10,919 --> 00:33:12,991 ♪ I don't want it If it's that easy ♪ 846 00:33:12,991 --> 00:33:16,235 Pac had his own room, so every time we had a break, 847 00:33:16,235 --> 00:33:17,616 he had a different woman going up with him. 848 00:33:17,616 --> 00:33:18,927 ♪ I get around 849 00:33:18,927 --> 00:33:20,239 His natural magnetism 850 00:33:20,239 --> 00:33:22,793 was beyond celebrity status. 851 00:33:22,793 --> 00:33:25,072 Girls loved Pac from day one. 852 00:33:25,072 --> 00:33:27,074 I'm talking about even before he was famous. 853 00:33:27,074 --> 00:33:30,077 Just carrying equipment, Pac was pulling 'em. 854 00:33:30,077 --> 00:33:33,770 So, now you got girls throwing themselves at you. 855 00:33:33,770 --> 00:33:35,634 Forget about it. 856 00:33:35,634 --> 00:33:38,154 Come on, we're only human. We're only human. 857 00:33:38,154 --> 00:33:39,465 ♪ Fingertips on their hips As I dip ♪ 858 00:33:39,465 --> 00:33:41,433 ♪ Gotta get a tight grip 859 00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:43,124 ♪ Don't slip, loose lips sink ships, it's a trip ♪ 860 00:33:43,124 --> 00:33:44,953 He wanted to be liked. 861 00:33:44,953 --> 00:33:48,267 He would call me up, "Guess who I did it to?" Who? 862 00:33:48,267 --> 00:33:49,993 ♪ Conversations on the phone Till the break of dawn ♪ 863 00:33:49,993 --> 00:33:51,788 Afeni didn't want to hear that. 864 00:33:51,788 --> 00:33:53,479 You know? It's her son. 865 00:33:53,479 --> 00:33:56,620 Now he's not the son so much, he's the man. 866 00:33:56,620 --> 00:33:58,691 ♪ But when you learn You can't tie me down ♪ 867 00:33:58,691 --> 00:34:02,695 ♪ Baby doll, check it out I get around ♪ 868 00:34:02,695 --> 00:34:05,974 From my personal point of view, 869 00:34:05,974 --> 00:34:08,874 I saw Tupac adapting to fame well. 870 00:34:08,874 --> 00:34:12,119 But what none of us paid attention to 871 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:14,362 was when someone gets success like that, 872 00:34:14,362 --> 00:34:16,537 there's a certain level of jealousy. 873 00:34:16,537 --> 00:34:18,470 We had no concept 874 00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:21,507 of understanding the problems of success, 875 00:34:21,507 --> 00:34:24,510 or what people perceive as success. 876 00:34:24,510 --> 00:34:27,341 Tupac had been gone touring. 877 00:34:27,341 --> 00:34:29,860 We were having Marin City Festival. 878 00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:33,036 He was so excited. "I'm coming home." 879 00:34:33,036 --> 00:34:35,211 But there were people in the crowd. 880 00:34:35,211 --> 00:34:37,351 They were jealous. A fight broke out. 881 00:34:37,351 --> 00:34:39,491 A whole mob of people started chasing Pac 882 00:34:39,491 --> 00:34:41,148 and the people he came with. 883 00:34:41,148 --> 00:34:43,736 There was a shot fired in the air, 884 00:34:43,736 --> 00:34:46,325 and the kid by the name of Qa'id 885 00:34:46,325 --> 00:34:50,088 got killed across the street from the park. 886 00:34:50,088 --> 00:34:52,331 That changed Tupac. 887 00:34:58,337 --> 00:35:00,167 I don't know what exactly happened. 888 00:35:00,167 --> 00:35:04,032 I just know no one's ever the same after that. 889 00:35:05,620 --> 00:35:08,865 It severed relationships in the community. 890 00:35:08,865 --> 00:35:10,556 It was heartbreaking for all of us. 891 00:35:10,556 --> 00:35:12,075 We're all responsible. 892 00:35:20,394 --> 00:35:21,912 I don't know who had the gun, 893 00:35:21,912 --> 00:35:23,776 but I know Tupac didn't. 894 00:35:23,776 --> 00:35:26,365 But everyone was saying because he was the name, 895 00:35:26,365 --> 00:35:28,988 it was his fault this kid died. 896 00:35:31,991 --> 00:35:34,891 It was really hard on Pac, 897 00:35:34,891 --> 00:35:40,379 right when he was just trying to get positioned. 898 00:35:40,379 --> 00:35:42,105 Young Qa'id. 899 00:35:42,105 --> 00:35:44,072 That's one of the hardest points 900 00:35:44,072 --> 00:35:46,765 in Pac's journey that never went away. 901 00:35:46,765 --> 00:35:48,629 Remember that name. 902 00:35:48,629 --> 00:35:51,563 That changed how he dealt with people. 903 00:35:51,563 --> 00:35:54,566 'Cause you motherfuckers will go to your grave 904 00:35:54,566 --> 00:35:57,741 with that name on your brain. 905 00:35:57,741 --> 00:36:00,986 'Cause jealousy and recklessness 906 00:36:00,986 --> 00:36:02,988 is not... 907 00:36:02,988 --> 00:36:05,093 something to die for. 908 00:36:15,690 --> 00:36:18,141 The '90s was incredibly dangerous... 909 00:36:23,215 --> 00:36:26,149 Too many families affected by a wrongful death. 910 00:36:26,149 --> 00:36:28,151 ...especially for Black males, 911 00:36:28,151 --> 00:36:30,809 This system and this country has tore apart 912 00:36:30,809 --> 00:36:32,638 my family and our families. 913 00:36:32,638 --> 00:36:34,675 You can't have a Black family and be together. 914 00:36:34,675 --> 00:36:37,022 It's not even that you in a gang or not in a gang. 915 00:36:37,022 --> 00:36:40,439 There was drug addiction, alcoholism, violence. 916 00:36:40,439 --> 00:36:42,993 How many more funerals do we gotta go to? 917 00:36:42,993 --> 00:36:45,030 And how many more scenes of the crime 918 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:46,963 do we gotta watch them chalk out 919 00:36:46,963 --> 00:36:49,793 Black figures on the concrete before we realize 920 00:36:49,793 --> 00:36:52,693 the only way for us to ever get out of this predicament 921 00:36:52,693 --> 00:36:54,281 is to struggle to survive? 922 00:36:54,281 --> 00:36:57,042 And a lot of our people died. 923 00:36:57,042 --> 00:36:59,493 It' ain't nothing but killing happening right now. 924 00:36:59,493 --> 00:37:01,288 I think the Black-on-Black violence, 925 00:37:01,288 --> 00:37:03,048 when we kill each other, it make us 926 00:37:03,048 --> 00:37:04,981 not really give a fuck about Blackness, you know? 927 00:37:04,981 --> 00:37:07,225 And also, the police violence against us, 928 00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:08,812 that's making us crazy. 929 00:37:08,812 --> 00:37:10,538 That's what's making us kill each other, 930 00:37:10,538 --> 00:37:12,299 'cause we scared to shoot the motherfuckers 931 00:37:12,299 --> 00:37:14,024 that's doing it to us. 932 00:37:14,024 --> 00:37:16,337 Gangs ain't nothing but tribes, you know? 933 00:37:16,337 --> 00:37:18,305 And the police ain't nothing but a gang. 934 00:37:18,305 --> 00:37:20,479 The National Guard is a gang. The Army is a gang. 935 00:37:20,479 --> 00:37:23,068 We learned all this gun shit from the government, you know? 936 00:37:23,068 --> 00:37:25,312 How are they gonna show us that and think we can't pick up? 937 00:37:25,312 --> 00:37:27,245 So, I'm picking up. Feel me? 938 00:37:29,764 --> 00:37:32,319 The difference between the Bay Area and L.A. 939 00:37:32,319 --> 00:37:34,182 is night and day. 940 00:37:34,182 --> 00:37:37,013 There's a huge criminal element throughout L.A. County. 941 00:37:37,013 --> 00:37:38,842 I was scared of L.A. to whereas 942 00:37:38,842 --> 00:37:40,568 I didn't know nothing about the gang thing. 943 00:37:40,568 --> 00:37:42,743 This ignorance, not knowing where not to go. 944 00:37:42,743 --> 00:37:44,745 But the ghetto is the ghetto, you know? 945 00:37:44,745 --> 00:37:47,851 He was solo. Renegade. He made hit records. 946 00:37:47,851 --> 00:37:49,197 And he was out there on his own. 947 00:37:49,197 --> 00:37:51,510 ...Mutulu, Geronimo. 948 00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:53,201 All the political prisoners. 949 00:37:53,201 --> 00:37:54,755 His mentors were in jail. 950 00:37:54,755 --> 00:37:56,239 My folks in penitentiaries 951 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,034 for screaming "African liberation". 952 00:37:58,034 --> 00:38:00,208 I'm talking about straight motherfucking G's, 953 00:38:00,208 --> 00:38:01,900 but they in jail now. 954 00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:04,040 A march to free the Panther 21 955 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,042 and all political prisoners will be held on Central Park 956 00:38:06,042 --> 00:38:07,561 and have its speakers, Afeni Shakur... 957 00:38:07,561 --> 00:38:09,528 When Afeni came out on bail, 958 00:38:09,528 --> 00:38:11,530 she believed in freeing her comrades, 959 00:38:11,530 --> 00:38:14,292 but it wasn't like she was jubilant. 960 00:38:14,292 --> 00:38:16,708 New York's Harlem is the biggest Black ghetto 961 00:38:16,708 --> 00:38:18,365 in the country, 962 00:38:18,365 --> 00:38:20,090 but the Panther chapter here is so weak 963 00:38:20,090 --> 00:38:22,092 that it's an embarrassment to the party. 964 00:38:22,092 --> 00:38:24,371 The Panthers have been, essentially, leaderless here. 965 00:38:24,371 --> 00:38:27,374 There were day-to-day struggles to keep a Panther office open. 966 00:38:27,374 --> 00:38:29,376 Their programs are at a standstill. 967 00:38:29,376 --> 00:38:30,929 No free medical program, 968 00:38:30,929 --> 00:38:32,448 no free clothing program. 969 00:38:32,448 --> 00:38:34,104 And with very little sleep, 970 00:38:34,104 --> 00:38:36,141 Afeni would do all of those jobs. 971 00:38:36,141 --> 00:38:38,074 ♪ I wake up Early in the morning ♪ 972 00:38:38,074 --> 00:38:39,972 ♪ My state so military Suckas fantasizing ♪ 973 00:38:39,972 --> 00:38:42,112 ♪ Pictures of a young brother Buried ♪ 974 00:38:42,112 --> 00:38:44,252 Afeni Shakur is one of the two Panther 21 members 975 00:38:44,252 --> 00:38:46,116 now out on bail. 976 00:38:46,116 --> 00:38:48,153 The next person out was Cetewayo Tabor, 977 00:38:48,153 --> 00:38:50,120 and then it was Dhoruba Bin Wahad. 978 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,260 Both of them brilliant speakers and organizers. 979 00:38:52,260 --> 00:38:53,917 And then Joan Bird. 980 00:38:53,917 --> 00:38:55,919 She was the other woman in the Panther 21. 981 00:38:55,919 --> 00:38:58,405 And I had been adjudicated youthful offender 982 00:38:58,405 --> 00:39:00,579 I was severed from the case, and released. 983 00:39:00,579 --> 00:39:02,167 We started traveling, 984 00:39:02,167 --> 00:39:03,582 getting more support for the case. 985 00:39:03,582 --> 00:39:05,273 Huey Newton and Bobby Seale 986 00:39:05,273 --> 00:39:07,931 called it creating a colossal event. 987 00:39:07,931 --> 00:39:09,968 She drew a crowd. 988 00:39:09,968 --> 00:39:11,935 It was the people doing "Free the Panther 21" 989 00:39:11,935 --> 00:39:14,421 and "Fuck the Pigs." Oh, God, I like that. 990 00:39:14,421 --> 00:39:16,492 Centre Street, it would be shut down. 991 00:39:16,492 --> 00:39:18,942 Black folks, White folks, students, tourists, 992 00:39:18,942 --> 00:39:20,634 'cause they knew sparks were gonna fly. 993 00:39:20,634 --> 00:39:21,807 The Panthers started shouting 994 00:39:21,807 --> 00:39:23,602 and the judge called a recess. 995 00:39:23,602 --> 00:39:25,432 Judge Murtagh was all about decorum. 996 00:39:25,432 --> 00:39:28,124 We booed, cheered, jeered and screamed, 997 00:39:28,124 --> 00:39:31,955 "You're a lying, racist, fascist pig," every day. 998 00:39:31,955 --> 00:39:33,785 This afternoon there was more disorder 999 00:39:33,785 --> 00:39:34,958 and another early recess. 1000 00:39:34,958 --> 00:39:36,650 Power to the people! 1001 00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:38,652 We weren't gonna politely be lynched. 1002 00:39:38,652 --> 00:39:41,033 However, there was starting to be tension between 1003 00:39:41,033 --> 00:39:42,794 national leadership and local leadership. 1004 00:39:42,794 --> 00:39:44,623 Founder Huey Newton 1005 00:39:44,623 --> 00:39:46,314 is in a California prison for manslaughter. 1006 00:39:46,314 --> 00:39:48,800 Chairman Bobby Seale faces trial for murder. 1007 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,181 Eldridge Cleaver has fled into exile. 1008 00:39:51,181 --> 00:39:53,667 Basically, there was conflict going back and forth 1009 00:39:53,667 --> 00:39:55,634 with the West Coast and the East Coast about money. 1010 00:40:08,475 --> 00:40:10,028 And Huey was out and insane. 1011 00:40:10,028 --> 00:40:11,892 Newton's last trial 1012 00:40:11,892 --> 00:40:13,687 and manslaughter conviction were overturned. 1013 00:40:13,687 --> 00:40:15,482 He is back on the street. 1014 00:40:15,482 --> 00:40:17,553 So, as the trial day nears closer, 1015 00:40:17,553 --> 00:40:21,591 Afeni and I found ourselves in the middle of that tension. 1016 00:40:23,213 --> 00:40:25,043 And the members of the Panther 21 1017 00:40:25,043 --> 00:40:27,701 who were still inside, led by Lumumba, 1018 00:40:27,701 --> 00:40:29,565 did not feel we were doing enough 1019 00:40:29,565 --> 00:40:30,911 to get other people out. 1020 00:40:30,911 --> 00:40:33,672 What we didn't know was that 1021 00:40:33,672 --> 00:40:37,711 this was exactly the strategy of the government. 1022 00:40:37,711 --> 00:40:40,230 In any war, the way you weaken an opponent 1023 00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:43,026 is to make the enemy fight a war in many different fronts. 1024 00:40:43,026 --> 00:40:46,202 And Pac and I used to have this conversation about COINTELPRO 1025 00:40:46,202 --> 00:40:47,548 as a reminder for him, 1026 00:40:47,548 --> 00:40:49,688 because hip-hop was becoming 1027 00:40:49,688 --> 00:40:52,450 such a powerful economic and political force. 1028 00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:54,382 But in Black communities especially, 1029 00:40:54,382 --> 00:40:57,385 we have, like, broken families, with no father, no big brothers. 1030 00:40:57,385 --> 00:40:59,526 And so the music becomes the father. 1031 00:40:59,526 --> 00:41:01,286 You-- you grow up and you get the lesson 1032 00:41:01,286 --> 00:41:03,288 that you would've got from your daddy, 1033 00:41:03,288 --> 00:41:05,290 and it's like you're paying $10 for a whole lifestyle of game. 1034 00:41:05,290 --> 00:41:07,879 That's why these White kids can dress and act like niggas, 1035 00:41:07,879 --> 00:41:11,469 'cause all they got to do is go get ten tapes, Hood 101. 1036 00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:14,575 Rap is essentially a Black art form, 1037 00:41:14,575 --> 00:41:17,060 and surprisingly, 70% of rap music 1038 00:41:17,060 --> 00:41:19,442 is bought by White young people. 1039 00:41:19,442 --> 00:41:21,306 For the government, there is nothing worse 1040 00:41:21,306 --> 00:41:23,135 than a revolutionary having a voice like 1041 00:41:23,135 --> 00:41:25,275 cinema and records. Can you imagine, 1042 00:41:25,275 --> 00:41:27,623 your mom is the DA or the judge or whatever, 1043 00:41:27,623 --> 00:41:28,727 and they're sending cats that look like Tupac 1044 00:41:28,727 --> 00:41:30,453 to jail all day. 1045 00:41:30,453 --> 00:41:33,560 And then their kid has his poster on their wall? 1046 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,666 "Like, take that down and put Bruce Springsteen back up." 1047 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,431 I saw people had no clue 1048 00:41:43,431 --> 00:41:45,641 what "thug" meant across his stomach. 1049 00:41:45,641 --> 00:41:47,297 It started with "50 niggaz." 1050 00:41:47,297 --> 00:41:48,989 Fifty niggaz: "Never Ignorant, 1051 00:41:48,989 --> 00:41:50,335 Getting Goals Accomplished." 1052 00:41:50,335 --> 00:41:52,648 Fifty thousand. Fifty million. 1053 00:41:52,648 --> 00:41:54,270 And it was a movement that was gonna bring 1054 00:41:54,270 --> 00:41:56,099 everybody all over the ghettos, together. 1055 00:41:56,099 --> 00:41:58,170 We're gonna send this one out to the old school. 1056 00:41:58,170 --> 00:42:00,276 All these motherfuckers in the Bronx 1057 00:42:00,276 --> 00:42:02,140 and Brooklyn, and Staten Island, Queens, 1058 00:42:02,140 --> 00:42:03,935 and all the motherfuckers that laid it down. 1059 00:42:03,935 --> 00:42:05,764 It was just about unity. 1060 00:42:05,764 --> 00:42:07,663 He just wanted to broaden the horizon of all of hip-hop. 1061 00:42:07,663 --> 00:42:11,183 ♪ I remember Mr. Magic Flash, Grandmaster Caz ♪ 1062 00:42:11,183 --> 00:42:13,979 ♪ LL, Raising Hell But that didn't last ♪ 1063 00:42:13,979 --> 00:42:16,292 ♪ Eric B Rakim was... 1064 00:42:16,292 --> 00:42:17,983 At the time, the East Coast 1065 00:42:17,983 --> 00:42:19,778 was established as far as hip-hop. 1066 00:42:19,778 --> 00:42:21,504 They wrote the rules. 1067 00:42:21,504 --> 00:42:23,299 What you could say, how you could say it. 1068 00:42:23,299 --> 00:42:25,128 That shit drove Pac crazy. Like, "Fuck that! 1069 00:42:25,128 --> 00:42:27,130 This is real hip-hop, too, on the West Coast." 1070 00:42:27,130 --> 00:42:30,548 That's why he was so on us in the early stages of our career 1071 00:42:30,548 --> 00:42:33,309 of embracing other hip-hop and other types of music. 1072 00:42:33,309 --> 00:42:36,830 So it started with "50 Niggaz," then it went on to "Thug Life." 1073 00:42:36,830 --> 00:42:38,694 And Mutulu was in prison, 1074 00:42:38,694 --> 00:42:41,386 but he would call, making sure it had structure to it, a goal. 1075 00:42:41,386 --> 00:42:42,974 Mutulu called all the time. 1076 00:42:42,974 --> 00:42:44,631 Mutulu is who put Watani with us. 1077 00:42:44,631 --> 00:42:46,805 Watani was a gift from God. 1078 00:42:46,805 --> 00:42:49,808 In addition to being elder, he was a security specialist. 1079 00:42:49,808 --> 00:42:54,675 He understood what was going on beyond what any of us saw. 1080 00:42:54,675 --> 00:42:56,850 And he was a connection to Mutulu. 1081 00:42:56,850 --> 00:42:59,991 Mutulu was a person Tupac knew as a father. 1082 00:42:59,991 --> 00:43:02,649 But the feds actually tried to not allow that relationship. 1083 00:43:02,649 --> 00:43:04,340 When I say the feds, 1084 00:43:04,340 --> 00:43:06,342 I'm talking about the Bureau of Prisons, 1085 00:43:06,342 --> 00:43:07,826 to try to stop communication between Tupac and Mutulu. 1086 00:43:07,826 --> 00:43:09,725 You know, 'cause behind the walls 1087 00:43:09,725 --> 00:43:12,866 he's looked up on the way Tupac was on the street: leaders. 1088 00:43:12,866 --> 00:43:15,178 Even inside of prison, he stopped gang violence, 1089 00:43:15,178 --> 00:43:17,008 racial violence, he was their peacemaker. 1090 00:43:17,008 --> 00:43:19,251 It was from that that Mutulu began to organize 1091 00:43:19,251 --> 00:43:22,738 with other shot callers and wrote the "Thug Life" code. 1092 00:43:22,738 --> 00:43:25,085 This Thug Life code, we have a code put in order 1093 00:43:25,085 --> 00:43:26,914 to the violence on the streets. 1094 00:43:26,914 --> 00:43:28,916 The OG's in the East Coast and the West Coast 1095 00:43:28,916 --> 00:43:30,573 and the penitentiaries. Like, we're gonna be against 1096 00:43:30,573 --> 00:43:32,540 drive-bys, kidnappings, 1097 00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:34,750 attacks on people that are not involved. 1098 00:43:34,750 --> 00:43:36,544 And people who perpetrate that, 1099 00:43:36,544 --> 00:43:38,236 they have to deal with the consequences and go to jail, 1100 00:43:38,236 --> 00:43:39,858 'cause that's who's gonna enforce this code 1101 00:43:39,858 --> 00:43:41,446 and the Thug Life that's on the street. 1102 00:43:41,446 --> 00:43:43,206 It's like we cleaning up the dirt. 1103 00:43:43,206 --> 00:43:45,381 I can't change what-- the dirt that's here, 1104 00:43:45,381 --> 00:43:47,107 but I can put all this dirt in one corner. 1105 00:43:47,107 --> 00:43:49,040 And I will give my whole life to this plan 1106 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,869 I have for Thug Life. 1107 00:43:50,869 --> 00:43:52,699 Tupac was our spokesperson for the code, 1108 00:43:52,699 --> 00:43:54,424 but at times he would struggle with that. 1109 00:43:54,424 --> 00:43:56,599 And so that was a balancing act he was dealing with. 1110 00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:58,601 He feels like he has to perform 1111 00:43:58,601 --> 00:44:01,604 to be this image that everybody want him to be. 1112 00:44:01,604 --> 00:44:05,573 You have all over the country, big-time OG criminals 1113 00:44:05,573 --> 00:44:08,231 telling me they want me to lead their movement. 1114 00:44:08,231 --> 00:44:11,234 I mean, I'm gonna have a small identity crisis here. 1115 00:44:11,234 --> 00:44:13,720 Okay, so let's go back to the questions. 1116 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:16,412 Have you been in any other jails or prisons, 1117 00:44:16,412 --> 00:44:18,725 other than the present? 1118 00:44:18,725 --> 00:44:20,899 Yes. I'm not sure of the word, 1119 00:44:20,899 --> 00:44:23,143 but it was for a fist fight with another individual. 1120 00:44:23,143 --> 00:44:24,247 Okay, so assault and battery? 1121 00:44:24,247 --> 00:44:25,801 No. 1122 00:44:25,801 --> 00:44:27,630 You were convicted of civil assault 1123 00:44:27,630 --> 00:44:29,908 for engaging in a fight with some entertainers: 1124 00:44:29,908 --> 00:44:31,323 the Hughes twins. 1125 00:44:31,323 --> 00:44:35,086 How did you not get hurt more seriously? 1126 00:44:35,086 --> 00:44:37,433 I was wondering if you guys were gonna interview you... 1127 00:44:37,433 --> 00:44:39,124 - Yeah, here we go again. - Yup. 1128 00:44:39,124 --> 00:44:41,092 Oh, I'm not the first person to ask that question? 1129 00:44:41,092 --> 00:44:42,749 Don't you think that's like breaking the line? 1130 00:44:42,749 --> 00:44:44,302 - You broke the line. - Okay. 1131 00:44:44,302 --> 00:44:45,821 You're not uncomfortable with me doing the story? 1132 00:44:45,821 --> 00:44:47,443 Why would I be? 1133 00:44:47,443 --> 00:44:49,272 Just don't think I don't hear this shit. 1134 00:44:49,272 --> 00:44:52,620 That nigga Tupac beat up is telling the story. 1135 00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:54,450 For the record, Tupac didn't beat me up. 1136 00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:56,452 Ten other motherfuckers-- 1137 00:44:57,867 --> 00:44:59,627 He had ten motherfuckers-- 1138 00:45:01,491 --> 00:45:04,702 Nigga Allen, you as crazy as a motherfucker! 1139 00:45:04,702 --> 00:45:06,634 That nigga said, "For the record, 1140 00:45:06,634 --> 00:45:08,291 that nigga didn't beat me up. 1141 00:45:08,291 --> 00:45:10,708 He had ten other motherfuckers beat me up." 1142 00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:12,399 That's when niggas had posses. 1143 00:45:16,748 --> 00:45:21,166 Go ahead. Let me take the hot seat real quick. 1144 00:45:21,166 --> 00:45:23,962 Go ahead, watch it. Go ahead. 1145 00:45:23,962 --> 00:45:25,653 This is easy being on this side. 1146 00:45:27,034 --> 00:45:29,485 Allen Hughes, take one. 1147 00:45:29,485 --> 00:45:31,142 So, what I wanna know is... 1148 00:45:31,142 --> 00:45:34,732 He's got a pen. He's got the pen out already. 1149 00:45:34,732 --> 00:45:37,700 So, how does all of that feel for you, 1150 00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:39,495 coming around, 1151 00:45:39,495 --> 00:45:43,188 knowing that 30 years ago, you met all these people. 1152 00:45:43,188 --> 00:45:45,328 Now, here everyone is, back again? 1153 00:45:45,328 --> 00:45:46,985 - How does that feel? - That's pretty surreal. 1154 00:45:46,985 --> 00:45:50,575 It's surreal to go and do a journey, 1155 00:45:50,575 --> 00:45:52,508 a narrative that you were a part of, 1156 00:45:52,508 --> 00:45:54,717 and then to have it be so personal, you know, 1157 00:45:54,717 --> 00:45:58,376 when I was deciding to do this thing... 1158 00:45:58,376 --> 00:46:00,688 I didn't want to do it at first. 1159 00:46:00,688 --> 00:46:02,518 Uh, and-- 'Cause I think 1160 00:46:02,518 --> 00:46:04,900 I was fearful of what we're doing right now. 1161 00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:08,593 So, tell me, you did which videos? 1162 00:46:08,593 --> 00:46:10,906 We did-- The first video we did was "Trapped." 1163 00:46:10,906 --> 00:46:12,528 Then we did "Brenda's Got a Baby." 1164 00:46:12,528 --> 00:46:14,530 And there's this moment in the video 1165 00:46:14,530 --> 00:46:16,532 where there's a long lens camera, like this camera, 1166 00:46:16,532 --> 00:46:18,845 and it's swimming over his features. 1167 00:46:18,845 --> 00:46:20,708 And I'm looking through the lens, 1168 00:46:20,708 --> 00:46:24,540 and I saw that structure and that energy. 1169 00:46:24,540 --> 00:46:26,853 And I go, "God, this dude's a rock star." 1170 00:46:26,853 --> 00:46:28,268 I mean, it was right then. 1171 00:46:28,268 --> 00:46:30,235 And you can just catch the aura, 1172 00:46:30,235 --> 00:46:32,720 and it's telling multitudes of stories. 1173 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:35,033 And the problem I think we have is people go, 1174 00:46:35,033 --> 00:46:36,759 "Well, what's the theme of this?" 1175 00:46:38,761 --> 00:46:40,452 Sometimes those sub-themes 1176 00:46:40,452 --> 00:46:42,800 are more important than "the" theme. 1177 00:46:47,149 --> 00:46:50,393 Harry Connick ain't got nothing on me. Check it. 1178 00:46:50,393 --> 00:46:53,741 ♪ Oh, stay with me 1179 00:46:53,741 --> 00:46:57,262 - We were close friends. - ♪ How could I be sure? 1180 00:46:57,262 --> 00:46:59,057 But me and my brother, 1181 00:46:59,057 --> 00:47:00,403 we didn't really want to shoot a third video, 1182 00:47:00,403 --> 00:47:02,129 "When my Homies Call." 1183 00:47:02,129 --> 00:47:04,649 Gentlemen, you're working with Tupac now, 1184 00:47:04,649 --> 00:47:06,824 - for the third time? - Third time. 1185 00:47:06,824 --> 00:47:10,310 At that point, we were having some difficulties. 1186 00:47:10,310 --> 00:47:11,898 Heard that. I gotta pay attention. 1187 00:47:11,898 --> 00:47:13,658 They told me, like, four fucking times. 1188 00:47:13,658 --> 00:47:15,625 Look this way. Look this way. I don't pay attention 1189 00:47:15,625 --> 00:47:17,317 That's my problem now. 1190 00:47:17,317 --> 00:47:18,663 That's why my mother threw me out when I was 13. 1191 00:47:18,663 --> 00:47:20,320 - Okay, Tupac? - Yeah? 1192 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,597 At that point, he was becoming 1193 00:47:21,597 --> 00:47:23,599 more erratic for some reason. 1194 00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:25,912 - I couldn't figure it out. - Let's do it again. 1195 00:47:25,912 --> 00:47:28,086 Right now, I'm doing these videos. 1196 00:47:28,086 --> 00:47:30,433 I'm doing these movies. I'm making a gang of money. 1197 00:47:30,433 --> 00:47:32,642 I'm helping my people. But everybody wants to know, 1198 00:47:32,642 --> 00:47:34,610 "Well, why do you got an attitude?" 1199 00:47:34,610 --> 00:47:37,613 "What's wrong?" "What's the matter?" 1200 00:47:37,613 --> 00:47:41,789 And it's like, if somebody put their foot on your neck 1201 00:47:41,789 --> 00:47:43,999 for so many years-- for me, it's been 20 years. 1202 00:47:43,999 --> 00:47:45,932 I can't take the 400-year struggle. 1203 00:47:45,932 --> 00:47:48,796 I can identify, but I can only take up the 20 years. 1204 00:47:48,796 --> 00:47:50,281 That's how long I've been here, struggling. 1205 00:47:50,281 --> 00:47:52,145 Twenty years. 1206 00:47:52,145 --> 00:47:54,147 And if somebody put their foot on your neck for 20 years, 1207 00:47:54,147 --> 00:47:56,321 when you finally do get from under that foot-- 1208 00:47:56,321 --> 00:47:58,496 'cause they like-- they let-- they like-- Now, they like, 1209 00:47:58,496 --> 00:48:00,015 "Well, we gave you some money. 1210 00:48:00,015 --> 00:48:01,809 I mean, you did a movie. Will you calm down?" 1211 00:48:01,809 --> 00:48:03,846 I still got the scars, you know? 1212 00:48:03,846 --> 00:48:05,710 I mean, I still feel it. When I go to sleep, 1213 00:48:05,710 --> 00:48:08,644 I still feel them cops on me. You know what I'm saying? 1214 00:48:08,644 --> 00:48:10,508 The cops who beat me, I still feel that. 1215 00:48:10,508 --> 00:48:13,476 If I hear helicopters and sirens, 1216 00:48:13,476 --> 00:48:16,134 I still panic, you know? And that's not cool. 1217 00:48:16,134 --> 00:48:18,965 You know what I'm saying? That's real. 1218 00:48:18,965 --> 00:48:21,139 I understood that he was going through things. 1219 00:48:21,139 --> 00:48:23,555 Everything that happened changed him a little bit. 1220 00:48:23,555 --> 00:48:25,523 Starting with being inside his mom's stomach in jail. 1221 00:48:25,523 --> 00:48:28,146 From all of that to the time he fucking got his ass whipped 1222 00:48:28,146 --> 00:48:29,320 by the Oakland PD. 1223 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,493 And he sued them. 1224 00:48:30,493 --> 00:48:32,530 It was always something. 1225 00:48:32,530 --> 00:48:34,566 Dan Quayle, in national TV, 1226 00:48:34,566 --> 00:48:38,501 the Vice President of the United States, 1227 00:48:38,501 --> 00:48:41,539 saying "Your music doesn't have a place in society." 1228 00:48:41,539 --> 00:48:44,991 Very little gaps of serenity for that guy. 1229 00:48:44,991 --> 00:48:46,854 At the same time, 1230 00:48:46,854 --> 00:48:48,511 I had people looking out for him, you know. 1231 00:48:48,511 --> 00:48:50,030 We put Lil' Monster and Bone, 1232 00:48:50,030 --> 00:48:52,067 both representing the Crips and Bloods, 1233 00:48:52,067 --> 00:48:53,378 on his security detail. 1234 00:48:55,346 --> 00:48:57,348 For those of us who loved Pac 1235 00:48:57,348 --> 00:49:00,523 before he was a celebrity, there was a lot of stress 1236 00:49:00,523 --> 00:49:03,009 that went with trying to protect him, 1237 00:49:03,009 --> 00:49:05,045 'cause it was hard. 1238 00:49:05,045 --> 00:49:07,220 We didn't know what was going on and what his plans were. 1239 00:49:07,220 --> 00:49:11,776 We see now, but at that time, we're all trying to protect him. 1240 00:49:11,776 --> 00:49:14,399 Their relationship with that nigga was-- was complicated. 1241 00:49:15,987 --> 00:49:17,885 Ask me some deep shit. 1242 00:49:17,885 --> 00:49:20,888 If he loved you, he loved you hard. 1243 00:49:20,888 --> 00:49:22,545 If he was mad at you, he was mad at you 1244 00:49:22,545 --> 00:49:24,375 like a motherfucker. 1245 00:49:24,375 --> 00:49:26,411 Ask me about the Hughes Brothers. 1246 00:49:28,586 --> 00:49:31,209 What happened was New Line Cinema said, 1247 00:49:31,209 --> 00:49:33,039 "You have to get a platinum recording artist 1248 00:49:33,039 --> 00:49:36,214 in order for us to green-light my movie." 1249 00:49:36,214 --> 00:49:38,906 Tupac's like, "I'll do a supporting role, but..." 1250 00:49:38,906 --> 00:49:41,737 I was supposed to be in Menace II Society, right? 1251 00:49:41,737 --> 00:49:43,290 I went and everything. 1252 00:49:43,290 --> 00:49:44,567 They got the deal because of your boy. 1253 00:49:44,567 --> 00:49:46,086 You know, they was my niggas. 1254 00:49:46,086 --> 00:49:47,605 They used to do all these videos for me. 1255 00:49:47,605 --> 00:49:48,744 He was gonna play Sharif, 1256 00:49:48,744 --> 00:49:49,779 the Muslim character. 1257 00:49:49,779 --> 00:49:51,471 And he basically said, 1258 00:49:51,471 --> 00:49:53,645 "In order for me to be a non-violent Muslim 1259 00:49:53,645 --> 00:49:56,062 at this point in my career, we had to rewrite the role 1260 00:49:56,062 --> 00:49:57,615 and show how I got there." 1261 00:49:57,615 --> 00:50:00,066 I refuse to play parts that don't exist. 1262 00:50:00,066 --> 00:50:03,069 I will be a young nigga, but I'll be a real young nigga. 1263 00:50:03,069 --> 00:50:05,071 You know what I'm saying? That's gonna make me 1264 00:50:05,071 --> 00:50:07,107 different than all of these niggas that's taken parts. 1265 00:50:07,107 --> 00:50:09,627 In hindsight, Tupac had a valid point. 1266 00:50:09,627 --> 00:50:11,491 But our relationship was so decayed, 1267 00:50:11,491 --> 00:50:13,251 I was like, "We're not doing that." 1268 00:50:13,251 --> 00:50:14,942 I said, "You acting like a bitch." 1269 00:50:14,942 --> 00:50:17,083 He said, "You acting like a bitch." 1270 00:50:17,083 --> 00:50:19,499 I said, "Well, Goddamn. If I'm a bitch, smack a bitch." 1271 00:50:19,499 --> 00:50:20,672 Long story short... 1272 00:50:20,672 --> 00:50:22,260 What's that say? "Heartless." 1273 00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:24,159 And I beat his punk ass up. 1274 00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:26,161 Now I can't help it if some niggas on the scene 1275 00:50:26,161 --> 00:50:27,955 beat his ass for running. 1276 00:50:27,955 --> 00:50:29,302 And I can't help it if they were screaming 1277 00:50:29,302 --> 00:50:31,442 "Thug Life" as they did it. 1278 00:50:31,442 --> 00:50:32,512 If it was me and Tupac, it would've been different. 1279 00:50:32,512 --> 00:50:34,686 It was a danger in ten guys... 1280 00:50:34,686 --> 00:50:36,447 That's the Thug Life niggas. 1281 00:50:36,447 --> 00:50:38,449 Them niggas was real Crip gang members. 1282 00:50:38,449 --> 00:50:39,622 But they spared y'all, though. They didn't do the finish-off. 1283 00:50:39,622 --> 00:50:41,348 You talk about Raging Bull. 1284 00:50:41,348 --> 00:50:42,625 I looked like Jake LaMotta by the end of that. 1285 00:50:42,625 --> 00:50:44,110 I remember the headlines. 1286 00:50:44,110 --> 00:50:46,353 And I remember him talking trash about him. 1287 00:50:46,353 --> 00:50:47,975 When I catch the Hughes Brothers, 1288 00:50:47,975 --> 00:50:49,287 I'm gonna bust you in your mouth for good. 1289 00:50:49,287 --> 00:50:52,532 But it bothered him. 1290 00:50:52,532 --> 00:50:55,121 I was pissed for a long time. 1291 00:50:55,121 --> 00:50:57,364 Even though out of all the meaningful times 1292 00:50:57,364 --> 00:50:59,194 that we spent together, 1293 00:50:59,194 --> 00:51:01,196 that altercation was probably like five minutes. 1294 00:51:01,196 --> 00:51:02,714 How do you feel coming to court today? 1295 00:51:02,714 --> 00:51:04,406 Don't block my way and don't hit my lawyer. 1296 00:51:08,410 --> 00:51:11,033 Tupac, do you think this is a bum rap? 1297 00:51:11,033 --> 00:51:13,311 And I feel unlocking going on, 1298 00:51:13,311 --> 00:51:16,003 'cause I'm just starting to recollect. 1299 00:51:16,003 --> 00:51:17,695 No, actually... 1300 00:51:17,695 --> 00:51:19,490 Damn. 1301 00:51:19,490 --> 00:51:22,665 I should've understood what he was saying. 1302 00:51:22,665 --> 00:51:25,151 But he wasn't really listening to people. 1303 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,156 So I decided to move him here 1304 00:51:30,156 --> 00:51:32,675 to Atlanta, Georgia. 1305 00:51:44,135 --> 00:51:46,379 Atlanta, Georgia. 1306 00:51:46,379 --> 00:51:49,692 This became the hub. This became our base. 1307 00:51:49,692 --> 00:51:52,350 So, Afeni moved here then Glo moved here after that. 1308 00:51:52,350 --> 00:51:54,352 And Tupac took well to it. 1309 00:51:54,352 --> 00:51:56,354 It was a little slow for him, but he embraced Atlanta. 1310 00:51:56,354 --> 00:51:58,391 I caught up with the popular rapper 1311 00:51:58,391 --> 00:52:00,186 in his friend's bookstore. 1312 00:52:00,186 --> 00:52:02,188 We started our conversation by talking about 1313 00:52:02,188 --> 00:52:05,881 why he feels he can impact today's youth with his work. 1314 00:52:05,881 --> 00:52:08,125 I have something to offer the business 1315 00:52:08,125 --> 00:52:09,885 that hasn't been shown before. 1316 00:52:09,885 --> 00:52:11,887 You know, I have a whole energy 1317 00:52:11,887 --> 00:52:13,923 that represents not just Black youth, 1318 00:52:13,923 --> 00:52:16,098 but White youth, Mexican youth. Youth. 1319 00:52:16,098 --> 00:52:18,928 After I started working with my son, 1320 00:52:18,928 --> 00:52:22,415 that was the first relationship we had since I was using. 1321 00:52:22,415 --> 00:52:24,934 Watching my mother just go through changes and everything, 1322 00:52:24,934 --> 00:52:26,902 it's like, my mother's my partner, she a soulja. 1323 00:52:26,902 --> 00:52:28,904 You know, she a soulja like I'm a soulja. 1324 00:52:28,904 --> 00:52:31,769 You know, and I watched to peep the game that she went through. 1325 00:52:31,769 --> 00:52:34,116 When he bought that house for Afeni, 1326 00:52:34,116 --> 00:52:35,945 we thought it was a mansion. 1327 00:52:35,945 --> 00:52:38,120 Because that was the first time 1328 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,468 anybody in me and Afeni's family 1329 00:52:41,468 --> 00:52:44,575 had a home and owned it outright. 1330 00:52:44,575 --> 00:52:48,613 And anytime Tupac sent 'Feni shopping with a budget, 1331 00:52:48,613 --> 00:52:50,236 we were happy. 1332 00:52:50,236 --> 00:52:52,445 We didn't never have that freedom to do that. 1333 00:52:52,445 --> 00:52:54,240 So, she bought everything. 1334 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:56,966 We was rich. We thought we were. 1335 00:52:56,966 --> 00:52:59,417 And he would say dumb stuff to us like, 1336 00:52:59,417 --> 00:53:01,937 "Don't act like you ain't never had nothing." 1337 00:53:01,937 --> 00:53:03,594 Well, we hadn't. 1338 00:53:09,358 --> 00:53:12,948 Tupac introduced us to a lifestyle 1339 00:53:12,948 --> 00:53:14,812 that we would've never known. 1340 00:53:16,054 --> 00:53:18,436 Afeni always wanted land. 1341 00:53:18,436 --> 00:53:20,127 And this was hers. 1342 00:53:20,127 --> 00:53:22,475 And she was real proud about it. 1343 00:53:22,475 --> 00:53:24,822 She had a shooting range outside. 1344 00:53:24,822 --> 00:53:27,204 So, we used to play with guns out here. 1345 00:53:27,204 --> 00:53:29,861 And she had a lot of guns. 1346 00:53:29,861 --> 00:53:31,069 Pac did, too. 1347 00:53:34,141 --> 00:53:37,731 ♪ Early one Sunday morning 1348 00:53:40,078 --> 00:53:43,323 ♪ Breakfast was on the table 1349 00:53:43,323 --> 00:53:45,152 I'm a felon. 1350 00:53:45,152 --> 00:53:48,017 I don't have nothing to do with no pistols. 1351 00:53:48,017 --> 00:53:51,331 But, mmm, the sound, 1352 00:53:51,331 --> 00:53:53,816 the numbness of the hand 1353 00:53:53,816 --> 00:53:55,335 when it shoot right through your arms 1354 00:53:55,335 --> 00:53:57,026 when you just lettin' it out. 1355 00:53:57,026 --> 00:54:02,825 ♪ Filled with the Long of glory ♪ 1356 00:54:02,825 --> 00:54:06,001 ♪ We learned the Holy story 1357 00:54:06,001 --> 00:54:09,004 Tupac had told me in the beginning of my recovery 1358 00:54:09,004 --> 00:54:10,661 how much I hurt him, 1359 00:54:10,661 --> 00:54:12,352 and he had not talked about it anymore 1360 00:54:12,352 --> 00:54:14,389 because he still had anger about it. 1361 00:54:14,389 --> 00:54:17,357 And he worked that anger through his system. 1362 00:54:17,357 --> 00:54:20,671 She saw her son shoot up a Mercedes-Benz. 1363 00:54:20,671 --> 00:54:24,502 Some people like sex, some like shootin' pistols. 1364 00:54:24,502 --> 00:54:26,228 Some people like doing both 1365 00:54:26,228 --> 00:54:29,058 because we release all the inside anger. 1366 00:54:29,058 --> 00:54:31,509 Tupac would go in the backyard and shoot the grass. 1367 00:54:31,509 --> 00:54:33,235 Tupac Shakur! 1368 00:54:33,235 --> 00:54:35,548 Give him your hands, brothers and sisters! 1369 00:54:35,548 --> 00:54:37,239 First of all, 1370 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,034 y'all gonna think something wrong with me 1371 00:54:39,034 --> 00:54:40,898 'cause I'm losing it. If I curse, forgive me. 1372 00:54:40,898 --> 00:54:43,418 But we curse. So, they told me to watch my language. Fuck that. 1373 00:54:43,418 --> 00:54:46,524 He did tell y'all about my mama and the Panthers, 1374 00:54:46,524 --> 00:54:48,285 but let me tell you where I ended up. 1375 00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:49,734 My mama was a crack addict. 1376 00:54:49,734 --> 00:54:51,529 I ended up in Baltimore welfare 1377 00:54:51,529 --> 00:54:53,531 with no lights on in high school. 1378 00:54:53,531 --> 00:54:55,878 He started to talk about his anger publicly. 1379 00:54:55,878 --> 00:54:57,880 I got disdain for a lot of motherfuckers 1380 00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,606 'cause I'm gonna tell you, 1381 00:54:59,606 --> 00:55:01,746 when my mama started cracking and I was by myself, 1382 00:55:01,746 --> 00:55:04,370 this brother right here, Watani Stiner, 1383 00:55:04,370 --> 00:55:05,957 was the only person in this movement 1384 00:55:05,957 --> 00:55:07,718 that took care of me. 1385 00:55:07,718 --> 00:55:09,789 Gary, Indiana. Black Expo. He was hyped. 1386 00:55:09,789 --> 00:55:11,722 So, it ain't no motherfucking struggle 1387 00:55:11,722 --> 00:55:13,586 if you don't take care of your babies. 1388 00:55:13,586 --> 00:55:16,243 Not just yours, but the other souljas', you know? 1389 00:55:16,243 --> 00:55:19,281 What about these souljas in jail? Where their kids at? 1390 00:55:19,281 --> 00:55:21,456 Don't none of you motherfuckers give a fuck about them! 1391 00:55:21,456 --> 00:55:23,906 Little Latasha got a bullet in her motherfucking back, 1392 00:55:23,906 --> 00:55:26,909 and ain't any one of y'all do a motherfucking thing! 1393 00:55:26,909 --> 00:55:28,566 Indiana was where Mike Tyson 1394 00:55:28,566 --> 00:55:30,154 caught his rape case. 1395 00:55:30,154 --> 00:55:32,087 Life beat me into submission. 1396 00:55:32,087 --> 00:55:34,261 So, I took Pac to go visit Mike. 1397 00:55:34,261 --> 00:55:36,919 And when he came in that prison, everybody, 1398 00:55:36,919 --> 00:55:39,577 Black, White, gangster, "Yo, what's up!" 1399 00:55:39,577 --> 00:55:41,924 And when I saw "Thug Life," I mean that shit. 1400 00:55:41,924 --> 00:55:43,581 'Cause these White folks see us as thugs. 1401 00:55:43,581 --> 00:55:45,272 I don't care what y'all think. 1402 00:55:45,272 --> 00:55:46,964 And he stood on the table. I said, "Get down." 1403 00:55:46,964 --> 00:55:48,931 Everybody just looking at what's going on. He's-- 1404 00:55:48,931 --> 00:55:50,416 Please, come down now. 1405 00:55:50,416 --> 00:55:51,969 I don't care if you think you a lawyer, 1406 00:55:51,969 --> 00:55:53,971 if you a man, if you a African-American. 1407 00:55:53,971 --> 00:55:56,111 We thugs and niggas to these motherfuckers. 1408 00:55:56,111 --> 00:55:57,457 He was really special. 1409 00:55:57,457 --> 00:55:59,356 I walk around with Latasha in me. 1410 00:55:59,356 --> 00:56:02,151 I walk around with Fred Hampton and Bobby Hutton in me. 1411 00:56:02,151 --> 00:56:04,291 And when these motherfuckers press my button 1412 00:56:04,291 --> 00:56:06,190 and I blow up, it ain't me. 1413 00:56:06,190 --> 00:56:08,779 He was too intelligent to act the way he conducted himself. 1414 00:56:08,779 --> 00:56:13,956 How the fuck can a nigga put on a police uniform in 1993? 1415 00:56:15,717 --> 00:56:17,477 Fuck that! When the shit jump off, 1416 00:56:17,477 --> 00:56:19,652 if you still got that on, your ass is out! 1417 00:56:19,652 --> 00:56:21,964 'Cause niggas is armed in 1993. 1418 00:56:21,964 --> 00:56:25,174 Did you see what happened on April 29th, on the news? 1419 00:56:25,174 --> 00:56:27,211 'Cause they was fucking shit up in L.A. 1420 00:56:27,211 --> 00:56:30,007 Four current and former Los Angeles police officers 1421 00:56:30,007 --> 00:56:32,319 were acquitted today of all but one criminal charge 1422 00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:34,391 in the beating of motorist Rodney King. 1423 00:56:34,391 --> 00:56:36,323 All my life, I never thought it could happen, 1424 00:56:36,323 --> 00:56:39,844 but I've seen it for myself. I was there. 1425 00:56:39,844 --> 00:56:42,640 Niggas had their motherfucking dawgs up, and it was all good. 1426 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,815 Two thousand National Guard troops 1427 00:56:44,815 --> 00:56:47,058 have been deployed following violent outbursts 1428 00:56:47,058 --> 00:56:48,646 in parts of Los Angeles 1429 00:56:48,646 --> 00:56:50,372 following acquittals for four... 1430 00:56:50,372 --> 00:56:52,167 We are marching on the anniversaries 1431 00:56:52,167 --> 00:56:54,652 of when we marched 25 years ago. 1432 00:56:54,652 --> 00:56:56,171 What are you meant to do? 1433 00:56:56,171 --> 00:56:58,173 Now, I swear to God, you gonna find me 1434 00:56:58,173 --> 00:57:00,037 strapped like a motherfucker getting ready to shoot. 1435 00:57:00,037 --> 00:57:01,694 Pac always talked about 1436 00:57:01,694 --> 00:57:05,214 how he was gonna protect us any way he could. 1437 00:57:05,214 --> 00:57:07,009 All that shit that went on in the '60s 1438 00:57:07,009 --> 00:57:09,909 ain't gonna happen in this motherfucker. 1439 00:57:09,909 --> 00:57:12,014 But if I go by myself and I die 1440 00:57:12,014 --> 00:57:14,707 and you motherfuckers bury me, I swear before God, 1441 00:57:14,707 --> 00:57:19,366 I will haunt every single one of you punk-ass motherfuckers. 1442 00:57:19,366 --> 00:57:21,196 Do you feel me? 1443 00:57:21,196 --> 00:57:23,370 But there was this doubt in my head. 1444 00:57:23,370 --> 00:57:25,372 Are you gonna do something if something happens? 1445 00:57:25,372 --> 00:57:27,202 - Fuck the police! - Guys like us, 1446 00:57:27,202 --> 00:57:29,376 we turn our delusions into reality. 1447 00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:34,727 So, Halloween night 1993... 1448 00:57:34,727 --> 00:57:35,900 Bang! Bang! 1449 00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:38,075 ♪ Oh, Sadie... 1450 00:57:38,075 --> 00:57:39,939 Three shots. 1451 00:57:39,939 --> 00:57:42,873 ♪ Don't you know we love you Sweet Sadie ♪ 1452 00:57:42,873 --> 00:57:44,875 ...just like a marksman, trained. 1453 00:57:44,875 --> 00:57:48,913 ♪ Place no one above you Sweet Sadie ♪ 1454 00:57:48,913 --> 00:57:52,089 The mythology is one thing, 1455 00:57:52,089 --> 00:57:53,953 but what I saw was the truth. 1456 00:57:53,953 --> 00:57:55,748 ♪ Seems so funny 1457 00:57:55,748 --> 00:57:57,612 ♪ No money will turn Your life... ♪ 1458 00:57:57,612 --> 00:57:59,545 Tupac... 1459 00:57:59,545 --> 00:58:01,547 shot some police in the ass. 1460 00:58:01,547 --> 00:58:05,274 ♪ Oh, it's what she wanted From me ♪ 1461 00:58:05,274 --> 00:58:07,138 The rap star, Tupac Shakur, 1462 00:58:07,138 --> 00:58:08,761 is free on bond tonight 1463 00:58:08,761 --> 00:58:10,417 after his arrest this weekend in Atlanta. 1464 00:58:10,417 --> 00:58:12,454 The 22-year-old singer and actor 1465 00:58:12,454 --> 00:58:15,284 was charged with shooting two off-duty police officers. 1466 00:58:15,284 --> 00:58:17,735 The wounds were not serious. 1467 00:58:24,431 --> 00:58:25,743 ♪ Pour out some liquor And I reminisce ♪ 1468 00:58:25,743 --> 00:58:27,469 ♪ 'Cause through the drama 1469 00:58:27,469 --> 00:58:28,953 ♪ I can always depend On my mama ♪ 1470 00:58:30,783 --> 00:58:32,647 ♪ And when it seems That I'm hopeless ♪ 1471 00:58:32,647 --> 00:58:35,477 ♪ You say the words That can get me back in focus ♪ 1472 00:58:35,477 --> 00:58:37,583 ♪ When I was sick As a little kid ♪ 1473 00:58:37,583 --> 00:58:39,446 ♪ To keep me happy There's no limit ♪ 1474 00:58:39,446 --> 00:58:41,345 ♪ To the things you did 1475 00:58:41,345 --> 00:58:43,934 ♪ And all my Childhood memories ♪ 1476 00:58:43,934 --> 00:58:45,142 ♪ Are full of all The sweet things ♪ 1477 00:58:45,142 --> 00:58:47,454 ♪ You did for me 1478 00:58:47,454 --> 00:58:49,318 ♪ And even though I act crazy 1479 00:58:49,318 --> 00:58:52,218 ♪ I gotta thank the Lord That you made me ♪ 1480 00:58:57,395 --> 00:58:58,638 Right? 1481 00:58:59,881 --> 00:59:01,814 I mean, Goddamn. 1482 00:59:03,643 --> 00:59:05,852 When Tupac first played "Dear Mama" for me, 1483 00:59:05,852 --> 00:59:08,130 it made me cry because I realized 1484 00:59:08,130 --> 00:59:10,167 that my son had forgiven me. 1485 00:59:10,167 --> 00:59:12,134 ♪ Everything will be All right if you hold on ♪ 1486 00:59:12,134 --> 00:59:14,620 ♪ It's a struggle every day Gotta roll on ♪ 1487 00:59:14,620 --> 00:59:16,483 It means a lot to me 1488 00:59:16,483 --> 00:59:19,003 that my son wrote a song to us. 1489 00:59:19,003 --> 00:59:22,179 ♪ ...that I understand You are appreciated ♪ 1490 00:59:22,179 --> 00:59:23,387 'Cause it's not just to me. 1491 00:59:23,387 --> 00:59:25,872 And I cried because I realized 1492 00:59:25,872 --> 00:59:27,874 it was him saying to me, 1493 00:59:27,874 --> 00:59:29,496 "I got the whole thing." 1494 00:59:31,844 --> 00:59:33,742 ♪ You are appreciated 1495 00:59:38,540 --> 00:59:40,646 ♪ Ain't nobody tell us It was fair ♪ 1496 00:59:40,646 --> 00:59:42,371 ♪ No love for my daddy 1497 00:59:42,371 --> 00:59:44,166 ♪ Because the coward Wasn't there ♪ 1498 00:59:44,166 --> 00:59:46,341 ♪ He passed away And I didn't cry ♪ 1499 00:59:46,341 --> 00:59:49,344 ♪ 'Cause my anger wouldn't Let me feel for a stranger ♪ 1500 00:59:49,344 --> 00:59:51,380 ♪ They say I'm wrong And I'm heartless ♪ 1501 00:59:51,380 --> 00:59:53,831 ♪ But all along I was lookin' For a father ♪ 1502 00:59:53,831 --> 00:59:55,592 ♪ He was gone 1503 00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:57,352 ♪ I hung around With the thugs ♪ 1504 00:59:57,352 --> 00:59:59,078 ♪ And even though They sold drugs ♪ 1505 00:59:59,078 --> 01:00:01,011 ♪ They showed A young brother love ♪ 1506 01:00:01,011 --> 01:00:03,013 ♪ I moved out And started really hangin' ♪ 1507 01:00:03,013 --> 01:00:05,429 ♪ I needed money on my own So I started slangin' ♪ 1508 01:00:05,429 --> 01:00:07,189 ♪ I ain't guilty 1509 01:00:07,189 --> 01:00:09,019 ♪ 'Cause even though I sell rocks ♪ 1510 01:00:09,019 --> 01:00:11,608 ♪ It feels good Puttin' money in your mailbox ♪ 1511 01:00:11,608 --> 01:00:14,265 ♪ And I love paying rent When the rent's due ♪ 1512 01:00:14,265 --> 01:00:17,199 ♪ I hope 'ya got the diamond Bracelets that I sent to you ♪ 1513 01:00:17,199 --> 01:00:19,685 ♪ 'Cause when I was low You was there for me ♪ 1514 01:00:19,685 --> 01:00:22,584 ♪ You never left me alone Because you cared for me ♪ 1515 01:00:22,584 --> 01:00:25,449 ♪ I could see you comin' home After work late ♪ 1516 01:00:25,449 --> 01:00:28,694 ♪ You're in the kitchen Tryin' to fix us a hot plate ♪ 1517 01:00:28,694 --> 01:00:31,282 ♪ Just workin' with the scraps You was given ♪ 1518 01:00:31,282 --> 01:00:34,561 ♪ And Mama made miracles Every Thanksgivin' ♪ 1519 01:00:34,561 --> 01:00:37,047 ♪ But the road got rough You're alone ♪ 1520 01:00:37,047 --> 01:00:40,050 ♪ Tryin' to raise two bad kids On your own ♪ 1521 01:00:40,050 --> 01:00:42,431 ♪ And there's no way I can pay you back ♪ 1522 01:00:42,431 --> 01:00:45,158 ♪ But my plan is to show you That I understand ♪ 120489

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