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Paul. The Llandarcy job is yours.
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Hang on! Stop there, please, sir!
No, no, no...
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No, no. That's my daughter!
That's my daughter! No!
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Thank you.
And thank you for trusting me.
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Stepdad. Dai Williams.
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Did you look at him? Alibi -
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out driving his taxi that night.
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Comparative mitochondrial testing
has shown a compelling link
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between Sandra Newton
and Geraldine and Pauline.
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You're dealing with a serial killer
and all that comes with that.
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I thought this day would never come.
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He might still tell us
to bugger off.
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Well, he might.
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What's the plan then?
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Turn the other cheek.
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Tea and sympathy
till we get his DNA.
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DI Paul Bethell.
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I remember you perfectly, thank you.
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May we come in, Dai?
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Hello, Pat.
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HE SCOFFS
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PHONE RINGS
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TYPEWRITERS CLACK
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Christmas came early.
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To be opened later.
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How the hell did you get this?
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Can't tell you, mate.
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Chris Wynne?
I said I can't tell you!
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SOMEONE CLEARS THROAT
Gentlemen.
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Right. Listen up.
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I urge you to remember this.
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The parents of both girls are
adamant, absolutely adamant,
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they were sensible lasses
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who wouldn't have got
in a stranger's car.
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So, anyone with links to the girls,
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even just a casual acquaintance,
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goes to the top of the list.
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Yes, Bethell?
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Sir, I really think
we should be looking
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at Sandra Newton
alongside these girls.
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Her stepfather, Dai Williams,
is worth another look.
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Did you not hear me the first time?
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Was I, uh, unclear?
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Did I mumble?
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No, sir.
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Did I not say we stay focused
on Geraldine and Pauline,
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come hell or high water?
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Yes, sir. Good.
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You and Philip are on tapings.
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Tapings?
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Detective Sergeant Jenkins
will show you the ropes.
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Here we go, boys.
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PAUL: We're reopening the
investigation into Sandra's murder,
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and we thought
you should hear it first.
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Why?
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There's some new DNA evidence, Pat.
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Tells us certain things,
important things.
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Sandra was killed
by the same man that killed
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Geraldine Hughes and Pauline Floyd.
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No.
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It's the DNA, confirms it.
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It's John Dilwyn Morgan, isn't it?
Got to be.
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I always said
he was soft in the head, didn't I?
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Bothering Sandra
when he had a wife at home.
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Have you checked his DNA yet?
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No, not yet, Dai.
Well, what are you waiting for?
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We haven't checked anyone's DNA yet,
but we will.
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We'll be mounting
a targeted swabbing operation.
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When the police told me
about Sandra and John Morgan...
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..I think they expected me
to be shocked...
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..and think less of her...
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..grieve less for her.
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Was I thrilled about her seeing
a married man? No.
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Did it mean anything
in the face of losing her?
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What's a targeted
swabbing operation?
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Basically taking DNA
from lots of men...
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..to find a match for our killer.
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I'm afraid that'll include you, Dai.
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Me? It's just for purposes
of elimination.
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As Sandra's stepdad,
we have to clear you, that's all.
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Oh, you do, do you?
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"Purposes of elimination."
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I like that. Nice.
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Is it his blood?
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Sorry, Pat? You say
the DNA tells you the same man
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killed Sandra
and the Llandarcy girls.
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Is it his blood?
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Erm, no.
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No, the DNA profile
was taken from his semen.
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There you go.
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Morgan was seeing Sandra,
we know that.
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It's got to be him, right?
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There is something else
we need to share with you.
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The DNA tells us
that there was semen
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from two different men
on Sandra's clothes.
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Now, if one was a result of
Sandra and Morgan being intimate...
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..that suggests the other
was left by her killer. No.
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No. We were told over and over
she wasn't raped.
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Over and over.
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We were, weren't we? We were.
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Categorically.
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See? She wasn't raped.
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She wasn't.
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She and Morgan had a row,
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and he lost his head.
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And it was all over quick.
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Very quick.
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SHE WEEPS
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I'm so sorry, Pat.
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DNA, it's like, um,
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a very powerful torch.
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It lets you see in the corners
that you couldn't see into before.
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Well, that's a good thing, is it?
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That's a fair question, Dai.
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"That's a fair question, Dai."
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Don't insult my intelligence, OK?
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Just don't.
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I was on CID's shit list
from day one.
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Dai... And I have it
on very good authority
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that you were the one
who put me there.
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If you were a gambling man...
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Yeah, which I'm not.
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That's why I said "if", Phil.
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He looked like a worried man.
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"Might do a runner" worried?
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Who might do a runner?
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Oh sorry, Geraint.
Erm, Dai Williams.
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Sandra's stepfather.
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Taxi driver, perfect cover, didn't
have an alibi for the three murders.
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Did he own an 1100?
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No, but, er...
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The drivers shared cars back then,
so could've got hold of one easy.
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We've had a new e-fit
from one of the rape victims.
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Oh, and that's a '73-era photo
of Dai Williams.
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We won't be taking his DNA, then?
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Thank you, sir.
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Not so fast, lads.
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We have another proud owner
round the corner.
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Mr Joseph Kappen.
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Right, rinse and repeat.
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I'll get his statement,
you do the car.
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Catch.
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KEYS JANGLE
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If this lands on my foot,
I'm blaming you.
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How's that?
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"I really think we should be
looking at Sandra Newton, boss."
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We should!
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Not even trusted to take
a statement!
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One more fucking word, all right?!
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Thank you.
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Right, we're off.
Give her back the keys.
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Thank you, Mrs Kappen.
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Well?
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The car's been on bricks all summer.
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What else? What was Kappen like?
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Bit of an oddball.
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Think it's worth
speaking to the neighbours?
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Check the bricks story?
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I'll put it in my report.
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Uniform to follow up.
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And I'll make another suggestion.
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Smarten yourself up, Bethell.
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We're the public face
of the constabulary.
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Remember that.
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Right. Who's next?
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Press conference?
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I'm not gonna lie to you,
I'm bloody bricking it.
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Say the wrong thing,
the wrong body language,
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the press jump on you.
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Becomes the whole bloody story.
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Oh, that's not the spirit.
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I know, I know.
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Just be yourself.
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When you talk about the case,
the girls, the families...
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..you're impressive.
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People listen.
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I listen, OK?
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OK.
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RADIO IS ON
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Ugh.
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OK. What is this?
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An empty milk bottle?
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Ha-ha.
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Come on. Fess up.
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Why does she always think it's us?
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It's like living
with a bunch of students.
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I'm off.
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Oh, I can run you in if you want.
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I'm fine. Sure? Yeah.
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Love you. Love you.
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Ta-ra love. Ta-ra.
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Love you. Love you.
Love you! Love you!
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LOVE YOU! LOVE YOU!
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Bus is good for her, socially.
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I think on some level,
she knows that.
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You're the expert.
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I am. Love you.
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I know.
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You OK, Paul? Yeah.
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It's just, erm,
once bitten, you know?
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We had a right shitshow
with the press back in '73.
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Still bear the scars.
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Well, don't worry. I wasn't
expecting you to say anything.
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You weren't? No.
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It's important you're here,
but I'll be doing the talking.
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Right you are, ma'am.
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Thank you for coming, everyone.
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South Wales Police are today
commencing the reinvestigation
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of the unsolved murders
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of Geraldine Hughes
and Pauline Floyd in 1973.
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A breakthrough in DNA forensics
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has now formally linked the murders
of Geraldine and Pauline
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to the murder
of Sandra Newton in July 1973.
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In other words, we are now
actively trying to find
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and apprehend a serial killer.
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The killer is still out there
enjoying their freedom,
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enjoying their life,
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but we are committed
to bringing them to justice.
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Operation Magnum will
involve an intelligence-led
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DNA swabbing campaign,
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and we are asking the public
to cooperate, come forward
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and assist the investigation with
any information they may have.
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Someone out there knows,
or suspects who this man is.
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We only need a name.
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Why are you wasting time
on old cases
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when the crime rate's
through the roof?
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Sadly, the passage of time
takes nothing away
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from the horror and pain
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the families of these girls
have endured.
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Therefore we will do
everything we can
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to bring this man to justice
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so they can experience something
resembling closure.
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Hey, he smashed it,
Jackie couldn't get a word in.
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Freezer's arrived, boss.
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So I see.
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All right, we're in business, boys.
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So, we store the DNA swabs here
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and then we submit them
to Colin Dark at the laboratory.
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Daily? Weekly?
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The first of every month.
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Before that,
we need a prioritisation matrix
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to determine the first batch
of 500 men for swabbing.
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What's that when it's at home?
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A way to triage our top suspects.
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See, now I understand.
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I did a course on
prioritisation matrices once.
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A man of hidden talents.
Just a two-day thing.
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It was that or health and safety.
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Oh, speaking of which,
it's incumbent on me
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to warn you that most of
the case papers in there
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are plus 25 years old,
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so there's a danger of paper mites
and associated allergies.
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Good to know.
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The matrix,
what parameters are you scoring?
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Well, were they suspects
back in the day and/or
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resemble physical descriptions
provided by key witnesses
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and/or own a white
Austin or Morris 1100?
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Then your usual markers.
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We need to go back through the files
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and get our list of
possible contenders.
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That'll give us a lot more
than 500 suspects.
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00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,600
Yes, it will.
263
00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,520
We'd better get cracking, then.
264
00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,600
TV: Three teenage girls were
murdered in West Glamorgan.
265
00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,720
The bodies of Pauline Floyd
and Geraldine Hughes
266
00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,920
were found in woods near Llandarcy.
267
00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,480
Three months earlier, teenager
Sandra Newton had been murdered
268
00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,920
15 miles away. This year,
DNA tests confirmed that the girls
269
00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,280
were killed by the same person,
270
00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,880
but they say recent
forensic intelligence
271
00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,720
has given them cause
to investigate further.
272
00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,960
A breakthrough in DNA forensics
has now formally linked
273
00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,520
the murders of Geraldine and Pauline
to the murder of Sandra Newton
274
00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,640
in July 1973.
275
00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,400
In other words,
we are now actively trying to find
276
00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,520
and apprehend a serial killer.
277
00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,440
The killer is still out there
enjoying their freedom,
278
00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:57,840
enjoying their life...
279
00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,640
These were the girls you knew,
weren't they?
280
00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,000
Geraldine and Pauline, yeah.
281
00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,640
How?
282
00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,040
Er, I was at school with them
for a bit,
283
00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,000
and then I worked at the factory
with Geraldine and her mum.
284
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,600
You worked in a factory?
285
00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,040
Yeah. I did!
286
00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,040
What about the other one?
287
00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,400
Er, no, I didn't know
the Neath girl.
288
00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,600
Erm, I didn't know Sandra.
289
00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,640
When we moved from Coventry,
it was tough.
290
00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,280
It was like landing on the moon.
291
00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,200
Mum just couldn't handle it,
292
00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,280
and Dad said we had to keep smiling
at all times,
293
00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,040
be "good immigrants", you know?
294
00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,240
Geraldine and Pauline were the first
people I met in the playground.
295
00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,360
It was Geraldine's birthday,
and she'd smuggled a cake in.
296
00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,120
She offered me a slice, and, uh...
297
00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,240
..that meant everything.
298
00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:15,880
This must be a shock. Well,
if they're looking at it again,
299
00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,640
it's got to be a good thing, right?
300
00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,920
Yeah.
301
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,440
Are you sure?
302
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,280
At his house?
303
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,680
Then what happened?
304
00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,960
Oh, my God. No way!
305
00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,120
Really?
306
00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:00,000
SHE LAUGHS
307
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,360
No!
308
00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:03,560
SHE LAUGHS
309
00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:22,160
So with these 500 men,
what will you do if they refuse?
310
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,920
What do you mean?
311
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,240
Well, if they won't give their DNA?
312
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,480
Well, we can't force them.
313
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,960
Not legally.
314
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,960
Won't be an easy ride, mind.
315
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,840
I've got history with more
than a few of them on the list.
316
00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:41,560
Let Phil and Geraint
do those house calls, please.
317
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,040
Paul...
318
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,760
..you have to go into this knowing
that you might not find him...
319
00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:57,400
..and having some inkling
as to how you will deal with that.
320
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,920
Well, sometimes
it's the things you don't do
321
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,800
that come back to haunt you.
322
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,520
Like I knew
John Dilwyn Morgan was innocent.
323
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,360
But after Ray Allen tore a strip
off me, I did fuck all to help him.
324
00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:11,400
Nothing. Just kept my head down.
325
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,520
Yeah, well,
sometimes that's the smartest move.
326
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,080
WATER DRAINS FROM SINK
327
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,080
That's what I told myself
328
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,080
at the time.
329
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,960
Hello, Mrs Morgan.
330
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,920
DI Paul Bethell. Is John in?
331
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,400
You're joking.
332
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,840
I chucked him out years ago.
333
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,160
You'll probably find him
down the Labour Club.
334
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,880
You want my DNA?
335
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,680
That's right, John.
336
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,440
What's to stop you putting it
on a dead body?
337
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,120
Screwed then, aren't I?
338
00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:48,200
I told everyone and their mother...
339
00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,240
..you didn't kill Sandra.
340
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,040
Big deal. I didn't believe it then,
I don't believe it now.
341
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,000
I'm gonna fucking burst into tears.
342
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,120
Look, John...
343
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,760
..you give us your DNA now...
344
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,880
..and we can clear you
once and for all. Clear me?
345
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,160
I was tried
in the court of public opinion.
346
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,120
And found guilty.
I'm well aware of that, John.
347
00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:17,960
Yeah, well,
you'll know I lost everything.
348
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,120
How will a DNA test change that, eh?
349
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,240
It's too late.
350
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,680
Oi!
351
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,200
Where do I spit?
352
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,320
So if you'll just let us
have a DNA sample,
353
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,280
we can eliminate you
from our enquiries.
354
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,000
I'll tell you what,
355
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,080
I'll give you a DNA sample when
you give me my fucking clothes back.
356
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,720
Sorry?
357
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,960
October '73, you took
my denim jacket for testing.
358
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,600
Hawkwind and Sabbath patches
on the back.
359
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,360
Never bloody saw it again!
360
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,680
BELL RINGS
361
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,960
I don't see how it took DNA
for them to link those murders.
362
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,680
It was obviously the same bloke.
363
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,960
Yeah, what're the chances of two
killers living five miles apart?
364
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,240
Maria.
365
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,480
My schedule is creaking, might
need to off-load some classes.
366
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,120
Yeah, OK.
367
00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:41,600
Can we go over everything later?
I can do five.
368
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,760
Sure, no problem. Thanks.
369
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,320
Here we are.
370
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,760
15 down, 485 to go.
371
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,880
Where's the boss?
372
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,440
Oh, there's one test
he wanted to do himself.
373
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,480
Can you open your mouth, please,
Dai?
374
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,160
Dai?
375
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,960
Open your mouth, please, Dai.
376
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,560
Thank you.
377
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,720
Oi!
378
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,200
What do you want?!
379
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,120
What do you want?!
380
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,360
This is bloody harassment!
381
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,840
We're taping half the cars
in South Wales. Why not one more?
382
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,120
Cos Dai Williams is not on our list.
383
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:14,920
The end.
384
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,600
You need to start packaging
your samples.
385
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,080
You're behind.
386
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,360
Yes, sir.
387
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,880
Let me tell you something, Bethell.
388
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,280
Every station I've ever set foot in,
389
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,680
there's a bloke in the corner on his
own, long face, in-tray up to here.
390
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,920
A bloke no-one wants
anything to do with
391
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,840
unless they dump their shit on him.
392
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,560
You know why?
393
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,000
Cos once upon a time,
he thought he was different.
394
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,640
Golden.
395
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,560
Too clever not to follow orders,
too good not to be in a team,
396
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,360
too sharp not to chase down
his own leads.
397
00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:00,760
He thought he was fucking special,
and the rules didn't apply.
398
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,400
But guess what?
399
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,000
He wasn't and they did?
400
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,360
Ah, shit.
401
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,000
You all right?
402
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,760
Fancy a pint?
403
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,120
Fuck, aye.
404
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,160
Give me a solid on this, Colin?
405
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,560
And rush it through.
406
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,520
We have a system in place, Paul.
407
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,320
I know, I helped to design it.
408
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,760
We're still not prepped
for the first 500.
409
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,040
Call it a sneak preview.
410
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,720
The exception that proves the rule.
411
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,240
Dai Williams.
412
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,880
Oh, I'll be in touch, Paul,
fear not.
413
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,440
Where the fuck have you been?
You said you'd be home at seven!
414
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,520
It's gone ten!
Something came up. I cooked.
415
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,680
Lamb chops. I didn't ask you to.
You did, actually.
416
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,200
I said, "What do you fancy to eat?"
You said, "Lamb chops."
417
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,400
Well, I'm not hungry.
418
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,400
Listen to me,
I sound like my bloody mother!
419
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,640
I'd kill for a beer, though.
I'm 23 years old.
420
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,880
I don't want to play the part
of the bloody nagging wife!
421
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,600
Then, do us both a fucking favour.
422
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,080
I don't deserve this.
423
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,880
You and me, we're a team
or we're nothing.
424
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,440
Where've you been?
425
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,440
Sandra Newton's stepdad.
426
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,160
I've been keeping an eye on him
when I can.
427
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,680
Like, off your own bat?
428
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,200
Is that a good idea?
429
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,240
Probably not.
430
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,160
But it's keeping me sane.
431
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,040
I suppose.
432
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,520
Every job has their bad days.
433
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,400
I'm not doing my job, Karina,
that's the fucking point!
434
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,800
We're still on the tapings.
435
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,680
They're not inclined
to come and speak to us.
436
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,920
I would ask them...
437
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,880
It's come to this.
438
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,560
Watching the bloody news
to find out what's going on.
439
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,600
I would be, or my colleagues
would be the only person
440
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,960
to know who they are.
441
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,960
So at the end of that round,
442
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,520
the scores are like
the legs on a GM turkey.
443
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,200
Remember your promise.
444
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,520
I'm here.
445
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,320
I don't know what I'll do
if Dai isn't a match.
446
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,880
Always had such a strong feeling
about him.
447
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,680
Yeah, well, DNA trumps
strong feelings.
448
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,360
Apparently.
449
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,120
There's no doubts on that score.
450
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,160
Phil has.
451
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,360
Always asking if DNA's
everything it's cracked up to be.
452
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,040
Did I tell you he came forward
as a witness?
453
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,600
Dai, not Phil?
454
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,320
You never told me anything
back then.
455
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,400
Just walked straight into the
station saying he wanted to help.
456
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,400
Is that so weird?
457
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,280
I mean, he had lost his daughter.
Stepdaughter.
458
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,080
That's not an indicator of guilt.
459
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,120
I'm just saying.
460
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,760
When you have a feeling
about someone, there's a reason.
461
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,040
PHONES RING, TYPEWRITERS CLACK
462
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,200
You all right there, sir?
463
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,880
Er, yeah, I just want
to talk to somebody.
464
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,160
Please. OK.
465
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Is that our man, according to you?
Yeah.
466
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,640
The stepdad? Yeah.
467
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,640
Leave him to me.
468
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,720
When I came back,
he was still in the lay-by.
469
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,760
And, like, hunkered down
behind the wheel.
470
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,920
Like he didn't want you to see him?
471
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,520
Exactly.
472
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,440
And what colour was the car? Navy.
473
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,280
Maybe purple.
474
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,320
Or black. Oh, I see.
475
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,480
All the colours
of the fucking rainbow.
476
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,160
What? No. I'm telling you the truth.
477
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,360
Three weeks, Dai. Three weeks
it's taken you to come in
478
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,480
and tell us about Lay-by Man.
Why? You know why.
479
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,320
I'm Sandra Newton's stepdad.
480
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,400
You've got a bloke parked
outside my house every night.
481
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,160
We certainly do not.
482
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,520
That's most likely
gentlemen of the press.
483
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,280
Do you know what my old dad
used to say, God rest his soul?
484
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,920
Any time anyone does you a turn,
always ask why -
485
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,960
what's in it for them? Hang on, hang
on, I came in here in good faith.
486
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,520
Don't interrupt me, Dai.
487
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,080
I've got some questions
about Sandra,
488
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,280
and it's very important
you answer them truthfully.
489
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,760
Do you understand me?
490
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,200
Did Sandra look upon you
as a father?
491
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,680
I certainly like to think so.
492
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,840
So you got along? The two of you?
493
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,480
We had our ups and downs.
494
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,440
Oh, well, let's focus on the downs,
if we may.
495
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,400
Did you ever get physical? What?
496
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,440
You slap her? Punch her? No!
497
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,320
I bet she drove you up the wall,
though, pretty girl like that,
498
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,200
under your roof, in your bathroom,
passing you on the stairs...
499
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,440
That's disgusting!
I get it. I get it.
500
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,640
You raise her, you clothe her,
sweets, pocket money, all that.
501
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,480
But you expect something back,
right?
502
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,520
You want a return
on your investment.
503
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,040
I don't know what you're on about.
You lose it.
504
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,560
You lose it,
and then two things happen.
505
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,480
You get away with it,
and then you get a taste for it.
506
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,520
Before you know it, you've got
two live birds in the back of your
507
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,480
taxi with only one thing
on your mind! Stop it!
508
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,760
No, YOU stop it, Dai. Right now!
509
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,120
And tell me what happened,
save us all a lot of grief.
510
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,200
I'll write it down,
all you got to do is sign it.
511
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,320
Make it easy for yourself, Dai,
make it easy for Pat.
512
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,240
Pat doesn't know I'm here.
513
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,240
You see?
514
00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:28,760
Yeah.
515
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,680
I think I do see, Dai. Yes.
516
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,840
There was no man in that lay-by,
was there?
517
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,400
Guv.
518
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,480
What? Mr Allen wants to know
what's going on.
519
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,800
He says, and I quote,
"If this has got anything to do with
520
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,000
"the bloody Neath girl,
there'll be hell to pay."
521
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,800
Right.
522
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,520
To be continued, Mr Williams.
523
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,040
Chris, take his clothes
for full forensic examination.
524
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,360
DOOR BUZZES
525
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,240
Hello. Hi, Sita Anwar.
526
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:20,360
Yeah, sure, come in. Thank you.
527
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,960
We're upstairs. OK.
528
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,920
Could you take a seat in there
for me. Thank you.
529
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,600
We've got a visitor.
530
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,560
Sita Anwar.
531
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,360
Says she was a friend
of Geraldine and Pauline's.
532
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,960
Says she was with them
on the night they were taken.
533
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,480
I thought it was worthy
of the boss's time. Yeah.
534
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,680
Shit, I'm, erm,
supposed to update Jackie.
535
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,240
Geraint?
536
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,160
Sita Anwar. See what she wants?
537
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,480
Best china, please. All right?
538
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,640
Right, can we get on top of
the next batch of samples?
539
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,320
I don't want Colin sitting there
twiddling his thumbs,
540
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,040
and Jackie's going to ask for
an update, so, uh....
541
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,240
Sure.
542
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:15,120
Right.
543
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,520
See you later.
544
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,080
I thought I'd give you my contacts
545
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,640
in case I can be helpful
in any shape or form.
546
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,920
OK. Well, that's appreciated.
547
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,520
Do you want a tea or a coffee, Sita?
548
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,600
Er, no, thank you, I've got
to get back to work. Busy day.
549
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,800
And what do you do for work,
if you don't mind me asking?
550
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,200
I work at Oakcross school.
551
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,560
I'm the head teacher. Right.
552
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,000
Wow.
553
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,480
You must be busy.
554
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,640
Do you want to tell me something,
Sita?
555
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,280
Such as?
556
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,120
I don't know.
557
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,040
About that night, maybe?
558
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,080
Erm, I was supposed to go
to the Top Rank with them.
559
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,240
But my dad put a stop to it.
560
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,680
I think it's great
you're doing this.
561
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,600
Fresh eyes is what it needs.
562
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,720
What makes you say that?
About fresh eyes?
563
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:26,320
Oh, nothing. Just, er...
564
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,800
No disrespect to you,
but some of the '73 lot
565
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,880
were a winning mix of useless,
arrogant and drunk.
566
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,440
Right.
567
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,960
No surprise they never solved it.
568
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,600
Tell me what you really think.
569
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,120
Oh, you weren't, erm...
570
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:49,600
No, too young to have worked
on it, right?
571
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,320
Much too young. Yeah.
572
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,440
Is there anything else
I can do for you?
573
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,320
No, no, thank you.
574
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,560
Nice to meet you, Sita.
575
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,280
Yeah, nice to meet you.
576
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,640
PHONE RINGS
577
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,480
Is it him?
578
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,320
If you mean, "Is it Dai Williams?"
579
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,160
I'm afraid to tell you, no.
580
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,000
His DNA doesn't match the
control profile of our killer.
581
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,960
Sorry, it doesn't match? No.
582
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,240
Colin, are you sure?
583
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:46,640
Have you checked...?
Dai Williams is not our man, Paul.
584
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,320
Shit.
585
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,360
It's not just Dai Williams -
586
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,920
the first batch of 50 swabs
have all come back negative.
587
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,600
Shit. Yeah.
588
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,160
A fair few healthy candidates
in there.
589
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,280
ALL our candidates were in there.
590
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,160
All our favourites anyway.
591
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,400
I suppose we have to manage
our expectations and our hopes.
592
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,000
What do you mean?
593
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,320
I mean, we're in this
for the long haul, aren't we?
594
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,120
Yeah, we are.
595
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,000
Can you get me in front of
the Chief Officer Group?
596
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,600
Yeah, course.
597
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,080
Getting the begging bowl out
already, are we?
598
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,320
Just on testing alone,
we're gonna blow our budget
599
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,200
in four months, three maybe.
600
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,280
We need to buy some time
to get through that list.
601
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,840
I'll call them first thing.
602
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,480
As per your request,
we've expedited your application.
603
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,920
But I have to inform you, we see
no grounds to increase your budget
604
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,880
or extend the lifespan
of Operation Magnum.
605
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,520
With respect,
606
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,800
I think the grounds
are self-evident.
607
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,840
We haven't caught this man yet
because we haven't matched his DNA.
608
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,440
But the swabbing programme
is in full swing
609
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,200
so now's the time to hold our nerve.
610
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,400
I'm sorry, Jackie.
611
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,600
We'd like to help,
but we're stretched,
612
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,960
and, frankly,
this was always a bit of a punt.
613
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,120
Sorry, but Jackie's right.
614
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,400
This is the time to hold our nerve.
615
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,000
He's out there. And we're close,
and I've got a feeling,
616
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,960
but if an old copper talking
about his gut doesn't cut it...
617
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,160
..let's not forget why we've
reopened
618
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,920
this case in the first place.
619
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,160
Sir, we owe it to these girls
to find him.
620
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,200
KNOCKING
621
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,760
He's in, you know, Mr Willoughby.
622
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,360
Police? How'd you guess?
623
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,560
Jan Stiles.
624
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Number seven.
625
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,240
What makes you think he's in, Jan?
Never answers the door, does he?
626
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:51,040
Postman,
Jehovah's, Cancer Research...
627
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,400
He rarely comes out in the day.
628
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,840
And you won't see a light on, ever.
629
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,080
Not from January to December.
630
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,000
Does he live alone?
631
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,000
Got a wife and two sons,
would you believe?
632
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,560
Home-schooled his kids.
633
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,960
Doesn't trust the state.
634
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,640
Doesn't trust anyone.
635
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,680
Do you know, I've lived four doors
down from him for 25 years
636
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,840
and never had a conversation.
637
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,320
He's missing out.
638
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,240
You know I'm famous
for my heavy knock, right?
639
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:24,720
Not THAT famous.
640
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,800
Took the door off a Securicor once.
641
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,000
Let's hear it, then.
642
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,000
HE KNOCKS
643
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,200
Mr Willoughby?
644
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,080
South Wales CID.
645
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,640
Fuck off!
646
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,880
LORRY HORN WAILS
647
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,520
So much for your heavy knock,
we got our first refusal.
648
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,520
That's about the size of it.
649
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,440
Anything in the file about him
in '73?
650
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,760
Not a lot, but what we got fits.
651
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,920
Fits how?
652
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,200
Fredrick Thomas Willoughby,
33 at the time of the murders.
653
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,280
Came into the system as
the identified owner
654
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,320
of a white 1100, which he used to
keep round the corner of the house,
655
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,280
even though he had parking outside.
656
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,200
Was the car taped?
If it was, there's no record of it.
657
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,400
But there's an old
intelligence report in the file.
658
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,720
Complaints from neighbours
that he'd approach kids.
659
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:17,480
"That's a lovely dress
you're wearing," etc...
660
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,080
Maybe he was just a friendly bloke?
661
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,440
Maybe.
662
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,160
But his resemblance
to the witness description
663
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,560
was noted at the time, bushy hair,
thick moustache, well-built.
664
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,840
He'd apparently leave
his house of an evening,
665
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,520
but when questioned, his wife said
she had no idea where he went.
666
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,000
Do you look in the Stop Check log?
667
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,880
Yeah, he crops up a few times.
668
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,040
Always driving his white 1100
late at night.
669
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,520
Stopped locally
in Port Talbot, Swansea
670
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,520
and on two occasions the
Jersey Marine to Llandarcy Road.
671
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,480
Christ, boys, we need to swab him
before we do anything else.
672
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,600
How? He's told us to fuck off.
Well, he's told you to fuck off.
673
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,440
Set up a meeting.
I'll work my magic on him.
674
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,120
This I've got to see.
675
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,200
I've got some homework to finish.
676
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,040
OK, love. All right.
677
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,400
Oi, plate.
678
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,520
Bloody hell.
679
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,360
I ran into Maria in the supermarket.
680
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,120
Yeah? Hmm.
681
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,520
She mentioned
you'd dropped your teaching.
682
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,200
Right. What else DID she say?
683
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,520
Nothing.
684
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,680
But I got the sense
that she was worried about you.
685
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,480
Well, one, she needn't be, and two,
686
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,400
she had no business
conveying that to you.
687
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,200
Whoa, now,
that was only my impression.
688
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:54,880
OK. You done? Er, yeah...
689
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:05,280
Sita...
690
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,840
What is it?
691
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,320
Nothing. Just, er, usual.
692
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,520
Too much work,
not enough hours in the day.
693
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,440
Can I? Sure?
694
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,080
Yeah, sure.
695
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,840
I don't want Maria to get it
in the neck now, OK,
696
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,400
cos she didn't really say anything.
Oh, no, no. Don't be silly.
697
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,440
I overreacted. It's fine.
698
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,600
OK?
699
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,560
Yeah, OK.
700
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,800
Well, the good news is,
he will meet you.
701
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,120
And the bad? He has conditions.
702
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,120
Bizarre, man.
703
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,640
It's full view of as many people
as possible. Clever.
704
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,520
Hello, Mr Willoughby.
705
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,880
I'm Detective Inspector
Paul Bethell.
706
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,720
I believe we've followed
your instructions to the letter,
707
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:41,560
please say if we haven't.
708
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,720
To cut a long story short,
709
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:49,280
we're trying to solve the murders
of three young girls in 1973.
710
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,280
Through DNA testing,
711
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,200
we're hoping to bring the man
responsible to justice.
712
00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:01,360
But above all, we're hoping to bring
a degree of peace and closure
713
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,440
for the parents and families
the girls left behind.
714
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,760
Well, Mr Willoughby,
I hope I've put your mind at rest.
715
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,760
Can I arrange for my officers
to return at a convenient time
716
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,800
to collect a mouth swab from you?
717
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,680
No chance.
718
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,000
Boss wants to see you.
719
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:04,080
Come in.
720
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,000
Sit down.
721
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,240
Detective Inspector Warren informed
me of your sensitivity at the scene.
722
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:32,520
He did?
723
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,040
Some imbecilic constable allowed
Mr Hughes into the wood.
724
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,680
Yes, sir.
725
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,320
And then you drove him home.
726
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,640
Poor man.
727
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,480
It's the least I could do, sir.
Well, in that light,
728
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,520
I think you're the man to go
and update Mr Hughes and his wife.
729
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,280
Important that they
feel...kept abreast.
730
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,880
What am I telling them exactly?
731
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,800
Keep it vague.
732
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,720
Talk about our general progress,
733
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:09,640
the dedication of the team,
734
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,280
the thorough nature
of the investigation.
735
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,560
Right, sir.
736
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,000
And if they ask for, er...
737
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:24,480
..examples of this progress?
738
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,360
Tell them - to divulge more
would be to jeopardise our inquiry.
739
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,040
What I'd like to emphasise is the
thorough nature of our investigation
740
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,400
and the dedication of our team.
741
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,840
Well, we appreciate you taking the
time to come and tell us, I'm sure.
742
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,400
I'm not sure Detective Constable
Bethell's told us anything.
743
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,920
Jean... Are you any nearer
catching him?
744
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:59,040
We have several active leads,
Mrs Hughes.
745
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,840
To say more would jeopardise
the inquiry.
746
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,760
We understand.
747
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,440
Thank you.
748
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,600
I'll leave you in peace.
749
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,280
Thanks for the tea.
750
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,280
And er, tell Mr Allen
he needn't worry.
751
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,600
We're not gonna run
our mouths in public,
752
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,600
vent our frustration to the papers.
753
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,200
I mean,
that's why you're here, isn't it?
754
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,840
We just wanted to keep you abreast
with our progress.
755
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,360
Right, well, next time you come,
let's hope you've made some.
756
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,360
Not that it'll make
a blind bit of difference.
757
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,920
So, how do we get his DNA?
758
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,680
What, surreptitiously, you mean?
759
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,120
Sorry, but I'm afraid the whole idea
is fraught with problems.
760
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,800
I'm all ears.
761
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,360
Well, if you followed Willoughby
into a pub
762
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,000
and nabbed his glass, say,
there'll be scores of DNA traces
763
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,200
all over the vessel
and no way to tell which is his.
764
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,880
And let's say he hadn't wiped
the sweat stains off your car,
765
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,120
and I'd been able to get DNA,
766
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,080
I would have taken it
without consent.
767
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:33,320
So? So it'll very much prove
inadmissible, Paul.
768
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,080
DNA's our new shiny toy.
769
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,200
We must protect it scientifically
and reputationally.
770
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,920
With respect, that doesn't fly.
771
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,160
You started all this.
You came to us.
772
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,360
Now it's getting a bit choppy
out there, you want to...
773
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,960
Play it by the book?
You bet I do, yeah. I have to.
774
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,040
All I'm asking is you test his DNA.
775
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,120
And when I take that DNA
into a lab, any lab,
776
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,160
they're gonna want to see a warrant.
Come on, don't give me that.
777
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,520
Or some other supportive
legal documentation
778
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,440
that I will not be able to furnish
them with.
779
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,640
Where there's a will,
there's a way.
780
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,600
I know Willoughby did it,
I just need to prove it.
781
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,200
Yeah, you knew it was Dai Williams,
too, didn't you?
782
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,080
All right, you stubborn bastard.
783
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,800
Find me a way that won't sully
DNA's good name or yours.
784
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,800
All right, such as?
785
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,160
I've no idea, Colin,
I got a D in O-level Biology.
786
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,120
I bet you bloody didn't.
787
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,480
Night, Paul.
788
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,840
PHONE RINGS
789
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,000
Geraint?
790
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,760
You've been summoned, boss.
791
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,720
High-ups need a progress report.
792
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,000
Right, it's been three months.
793
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,920
Where are we? Briefly.
794
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,360
Yeah. Well, sir, we've no positive
results from the swabs
795
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,760
but we have a strong suspect.
796
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,320
A man who was living in the area
in '73 and resembles our e-fit
797
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,440
and is refusing to provide us
with a DNA sample.
798
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,240
How many men have you swabbed
to date?
799
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,480
Sorry, sir,
did you hear what I just said?
800
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,320
And did you hear what I said?
801
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,320
265, sir.
802
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,680
Yeah.
803
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,840
I'm afraid we'll have
to start thinking about
804
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,600
a cut-off point as a date.
805
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,720
I think mid-January
would be sensible.
806
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,560
Sir, I've got a suspect
who's refusing to give us his DNA.
807
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,520
"Sensible"? And I've got to consider
the drain on day-to-day resources
808
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,320
in the light
of historically harsh budget cuts.
809
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,960
We completely understand, sir.
810
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,200
And we'll do everything we can
to bring a charge by mid-January,
811
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:01,920
if not before.
812
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,200
TV: Good evening.
The relatives of four young men
813
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,080
are in mourning tonight
after an horrific accident.
814
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,000
The four were in a car which plunged
into the River Usk near Newport.
815
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,000
A fifth man managed to escape
and swim to the river bank.
816
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,440
He's been released from hospital
after being treated
817
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,360
for shock and hypothermia...
818
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,440
HGV can reveal tonight that
one of the four had previously...
819
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,440
It's all right, Dad,
I've got it. I've got it.
820
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:45,400
You've got physio on Friday
as normal,
821
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,080
but it's not with Gemma
because she's on holiday, OK?
822
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,680
Now, sit down.
823
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,560
OK?
824
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,040
OK.
825
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,840
We need to talk
about the house, Dad.
826
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,720
Do you remember I said...
827
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,640
..we need to start clearing it out
soon?
828
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,400
I was thinking of making a start
next week.
829
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,600
OK?
830
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,240
Yeah... Yeah?
831
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,520
We have to work out
what we're gonna keep
832
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,240
and what we're gonna throw away.
833
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,200
Don't worry, I'll sort it all out.
834
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,000
Sita?
835
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,400
Why did you think
you always knew best, Dad?
836
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,880
Always!
837
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,040
You never asked me what I wanted.
838
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,840
You just tried to control me
the way you controlled Mum.
839
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,000
Why did you have to come that night?
840
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,760
Why?!
841
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,080
Why did you make me leave them?!
842
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,200
Oh, God, sorry.
843
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,640
Oh, I'm sorry, Dad.
844
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,640
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
845
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,520
I'm sorry, Dad.
846
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,440
I'm sorry, Dad.
847
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,800
It's all right bach, it's OK.
848
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,240
Why don't we have some water,
some paracetamol?
849
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,720
I had a B in O-level biology,
actually.
850
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:52,080
Oh.
851
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,640
Commiserations.
852
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,240
I've been speaking to a colleague.
853
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:58,080
I really think we need to roll
the dice on this, Paul,
854
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,600
think laterally.
855
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:00,960
I told YOU that.
856
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,720
50% of the killer's DNA
would have been passed on
857
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:07,880
to any children he may have had.
858
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,080
Moreover, he has
a distinctive genetic marker,
859
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,720
which also would have been
passed on to any offspring.
860
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:15,960
A marker? Mm-hm, a double allele.
861
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,560
Is that rare? Rare-ish.
862
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,000
I could search for individuals
with the same feature.
863
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,200
That's a big pool? Vast.
864
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,680
So initially I would focus
on Port Talbot and Neath.
865
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,360
All right, go on, I'm interested.
866
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,280
Well, you should be interested.
867
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,040
If we're successful,
we'd be making history.
868
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,960
Familial DNA has never been used
to identify a suspect.
869
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,920
Right. We'll be going where
no man has ever gone before.
870
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,600
Not to strike a too mundane note,
what about my suspect, Willoughby?
871
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,640
Well, if his male relatives are on
the database, then, yes,
872
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,520
we may well get him.
873
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,120
And if I put in the double allele
into the database
874
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,720
with geographic parameters...
875
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,920
Yeah, but those parameters,
I mean, they're guesses.
876
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,480
Oh, that's harsh. This is based on
a statistic that 80% of killers
877
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,720
live within a four-mile radius
of the murder scenes.
878
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,000
Still guesses.
879
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,800
I did say that we'd be rolling
the dice on this one, Paul.
880
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,480
Go on.
881
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,440
My search could yield a shortlist
of around about 50, say.
882
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,960
What do you think? Achievable?
883
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,720
Very fucking achievable.
99845
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