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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:26,100 --> 00:01:29,200 Get it around there. Just turn it around. 2 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,233 That's it. Bring that around. There. That's nice. 3 00:01:32,233 --> 00:01:34,567 Wait. Let me check this. Let me turn the brush. 4 00:01:34,567 --> 00:01:38,800 There. Good. 5 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:44,067 David came to the college with this pinstriped suit and a high starch 6 00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:49,267 collar and a very thin little tie and this pudding bowl haircut. 7 00:01:49,267 --> 00:01:53,933 And I said to myself, "My God, look at the state of this fella." 8 00:01:53,933 --> 00:01:59,133 I said, "He's like a Russian peasant. A right Boris." 9 00:01:59,133 --> 00:02:01,867 You know those crinkly chippers? 10 00:02:01,867 --> 00:02:07,300 You see, he had a crinkly chipper, when chips used to be straight. 11 00:02:07,300 --> 00:02:10,433 He always had bloody theories about everything, you know. 12 00:02:10,433 --> 00:02:14,233 "Here, well, there's more surface area. It makes a better chip." 13 00:02:14,267 --> 00:02:15,833 [Indistinct chatter] 14 00:02:15,900 --> 00:02:21,267 [John] He had a need to have a guiding theory. 15 00:02:21,267 --> 00:02:24,267 When he decided he'd hit on the right one, it was like 16 00:02:24,267 --> 00:02:27,300 someone who'd suddenly seen the light in a new religion. 17 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:31,300 And you'd tend to dread meeting him and be subjected to it again. 18 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:33,800 [Chatter subsides] 19 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,966 [Ed] It was always easy to get him on the subject of cigarettes. 20 00:02:37,966 --> 00:02:44,700 I asked him what he thought about this billboard over on Santa Monica Boulevard. 21 00:02:44,700 --> 00:02:47,133 Right away, he says, uh, 22 00:02:47,133 --> 00:02:52,533 "Well, I should rent the billboard across the street that 23 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,500 would tell the number of people who died of other causes." 24 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:04,933 [Celia] I think he was a bit in love with me for a while. 25 00:03:04,933 --> 00:03:09,367 I do think that's true. And I remember wearing this suit in San Francisco 26 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,833 and going up to Nob Hill, which is a very steep slope. 27 00:03:13,867 --> 00:03:16,400 And he said, "Celia, 28 00:03:16,466 --> 00:03:20,133 those trousers from the back. 29 00:03:20,167 --> 00:03:23,500 I don't think you look your best in those." 30 00:03:23,533 --> 00:03:25,833 And I never wore them again. 31 00:03:28,067 --> 00:03:32,500 [Mark] We had this polar bear white carpet, and he was doing some ink 32 00:03:32,533 --> 00:03:37,167 drawings on the floor, and he got a spot of ink on the carpet. 33 00:03:37,167 --> 00:03:38,900 And my father got hysterical. 34 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:43,567 I said, "Dad, we should have him sign it. It'll be worth millions in a couple of years." 35 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,767 [Somber music] 36 00:03:58,667 --> 00:04:02,067 [Lively chatter; Children play] 37 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,300 [Siren wails in distance] 38 00:04:24,933 --> 00:04:27,600 [Percussive shake reverberates] 39 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,933 [Music continues] 40 00:04:29,967 --> 00:04:31,867 [Seagulls caw] 41 00:04:34,633 --> 00:04:37,300 [Air-raid siren wails] 42 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:45,133 [Hockney] We go under the stairs, a little cupboard to hide under the stairs. 43 00:04:49,467 --> 00:04:56,133 When the bomb drops on the street, my mother screams. 44 00:04:56,133 --> 00:04:59,400 If she screams, you scream. 45 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:03,233 I mean, you're very frightened if your mother's frightened. 46 00:05:03,233 --> 00:05:06,133 [Music continues] 47 00:05:06,133 --> 00:05:08,667 So it's something I've always remembered. 48 00:05:08,700 --> 00:05:14,100 And actually, so had all my brothers and sister. 49 00:05:14,133 --> 00:05:20,200 It's the first... First memory I have. Yeah. 50 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,667 [Music subsides; Lively chatter] 51 00:05:25,533 --> 00:05:28,533 [Hockney] I was born in 1937, 52 00:05:28,633 --> 00:05:33,767 and I do remember the end of the Second World War. 53 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,067 I was brought up with rationing. 54 00:05:37,067 --> 00:05:40,533 They didn't end rationing till I was 16 years old. 55 00:05:40,567 --> 00:05:42,867 So, you couldn't just go buy a bar of chocolate. 56 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:47,200 You could only buy sweets Saturday morning when you got your pocket money. 57 00:05:47,233 --> 00:05:52,867 You'd be given it at 9:00, and the sweets had gone by 9:15. 58 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:55,867 You'd have bought them and eaten them, and that was it. 59 00:05:55,900 --> 00:05:57,733 And you'd have to wait till another Saturday. 60 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,200 I mean, I was brought up in austerity, like, and that. 61 00:06:01,233 --> 00:06:05,167 On the other hand, we didn't feel poor. Life was interesting. 62 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,467 You know, I mean, you're a kid, so life is interesting. 63 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:11,367 Uh, whether you'd much money or not. 64 00:06:11,367 --> 00:06:15,533 It's always interesting to children in that way. It should be anyway. 65 00:06:15,567 --> 00:06:17,933 Um, and it was to my father. 66 00:06:18,067 --> 00:06:24,400 I mean, he... he wasn't a very sophisticated man in many ways. 67 00:06:24,433 --> 00:06:27,233 I mean, he was a bit puritanical for me. 68 00:06:27,267 --> 00:06:28,867 But he had a heart. 69 00:06:28,867 --> 00:06:33,900 I mean, he cared about people and felt there should be justice in the world. 70 00:06:33,933 --> 00:06:36,567 I mean, he was political that way. 71 00:06:41,433 --> 00:06:43,533 The one thing I loved... 72 00:06:43,567 --> 00:06:50,867 My father could paint the line on a crossbar of a bicycle using a special long brush. 73 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:54,067 He'd rest your finger on the top, 74 00:06:54,067 --> 00:06:57,733 and then you do it without a ruler, you see, like a sign writer would. 75 00:06:57,767 --> 00:07:02,600 But to watch it done without a ruler was very thrilling, I thought. 76 00:07:02,633 --> 00:07:07,800 Incredible that you can make a straight line like that, just with your eye. 77 00:07:07,867 --> 00:07:11,733 I mean, it's like watching Michelangelo draw a circle. 78 00:07:11,767 --> 00:07:15,067 [Sprightly, psychedelic music] 79 00:07:23,633 --> 00:07:26,600 [Man] Why are you popular? 80 00:07:26,633 --> 00:07:31,767 What is it, do you think, in your work that goes straight through 81 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:37,500 to the understanding and feelings of a large number of people? 82 00:07:37,567 --> 00:07:42,300 - Well, I'm not that sure. - Go on. Try. 83 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:47,200 Of course, I'm interested in ways of looking 84 00:07:47,267 --> 00:07:50,832 and trying to think of it in simple ways. 85 00:07:50,867 --> 00:07:56,500 If you can communicate that, of course, people will respond. 86 00:07:56,533 --> 00:07:58,367 Everybody does look. 87 00:07:58,433 --> 00:08:03,833 Um, it's just a question of how hard they're willing to look, isn't it? 88 00:08:03,833 --> 00:08:06,533 [Music continues] 89 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,200 [Music concludes] 90 00:08:56,433 --> 00:09:04,400 [Arthur] We were at a restaurant and somehow the subject came up of David's failings and faults. 91 00:09:04,433 --> 00:09:09,267 Henry took the napkin and wrote just like that, as fast as you please. 92 00:09:09,267 --> 00:09:12,400 It was so funny. I picked it up, and I've saved it ever since. 93 00:09:12,433 --> 00:09:17,767 It started out "stubborn." Then "hard of hearing" was the next one. 94 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,133 "Generous to a fault." 95 00:09:20,133 --> 00:09:24,733 Uh, "Emotional in the guise of reason." 96 00:09:24,767 --> 00:09:26,967 And "often overhardy." 97 00:09:26,967 --> 00:09:30,433 And he's written in parentheses, "walking and bathing." 98 00:09:30,467 --> 00:09:32,100 [He chuckles] 99 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:37,700 And, uh, oh, the other one is, which he's written is "unintentionally rude." 100 00:09:37,700 --> 00:09:40,733 And he's underlined "unintentionally" twice. 101 00:09:40,767 --> 00:09:44,233 I think it's a really good description of David. 102 00:09:44,267 --> 00:09:46,267 I've saved it forever. 103 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,400 [Hockney] One of the things that my father taught me 104 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,967 was not to worry too much what the neighbors think. 105 00:09:55,967 --> 00:10:01,400 Well, that's aristocratic, actually, not working class. 106 00:10:01,433 --> 00:10:03,333 That's aristocratic. I mean, 107 00:10:03,333 --> 00:10:06,100 "Fuck you. I don't care what the neighbors think." 108 00:10:06,100 --> 00:10:09,133 And my mother would have cared. 109 00:10:09,133 --> 00:10:11,400 But Kenneth told me that. 110 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,333 "Don't you worry too much what the neighbors think." 111 00:10:14,333 --> 00:10:19,333 And I always thought... I took that lesson, actually. Yeah, I noticed it. 112 00:10:19,367 --> 00:10:21,700 [Bustling street noise] 113 00:10:29,667 --> 00:10:35,867 [Colin] When he was at Bradford Art School, he was in an evening class, life drawing, 114 00:10:35,867 --> 00:10:40,467 and there was a guy, a bit of a sort of rocker or something, and he had an art 115 00:10:40,500 --> 00:10:45,700 student girlfriend, probably with that sort of witch-type mascara that was about then. 116 00:10:45,700 --> 00:10:49,867 They were real art students and there was the schoolboy, you see, intensely drawing. 117 00:10:51,567 --> 00:10:54,167 And he said this guy was just like this on his thing 118 00:10:54,167 --> 00:10:57,400 and sort of putting his feet up on the donkey, you know, 119 00:10:57,467 --> 00:11:00,567 and all this, and just spent two hours taking the piss 120 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,667 out of Hockney for being so earnest and just drawing. 121 00:11:03,667 --> 00:11:08,067 And the girlfriend was laughing, and the model was laughing. 122 00:11:08,067 --> 00:11:10,967 And I said, "What did you do?" He just said, "Well..." 123 00:11:10,967 --> 00:11:15,233 He said, "Well, I just thought, "Well, I'll fucking show them.'" 124 00:11:16,567 --> 00:11:20,233 And he had revealed the inner David, you know. 125 00:11:20,233 --> 00:11:21,667 Willpower. 126 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:26,200 [Upbeat rock 'n' roll music] 127 00:11:36,100 --> 00:11:38,733 [Music continues; Lively chatter] 128 00:11:54,967 --> 00:11:57,600 Nobody was there when I arrived at the Royal College. 129 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,900 And I just sort of got a cubicle they appointed me and I laid out 130 00:12:01,933 --> 00:12:08,100 my stuff and then suddenly this very strange-looking guy walks in. 131 00:12:08,133 --> 00:12:13,533 And doesn't say a word, just starts setting up in the cubicle next to me. 132 00:12:13,533 --> 00:12:17,700 Then Derek Boshier came in and took up the cubicle on the other side. 133 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:22,133 So there was Derek on my left, and David on my right and me 134 00:12:22,133 --> 00:12:26,267 in the middle, and we became quite friendly after a few weeks. 135 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:32,067 He was living in a little hut in Earl's Court, and I 136 00:12:32,067 --> 00:12:35,767 went there once or twice, but it was not very large. 137 00:12:35,767 --> 00:12:37,933 It barely fit the two of us in there. 138 00:12:37,967 --> 00:12:41,067 [Upbeat rock 'n' roll music] 139 00:12:47,667 --> 00:12:51,367 [Mark] London in the '60s was becoming very hip, 140 00:12:51,367 --> 00:12:55,433 very different, also very anti-establishment. 141 00:12:57,167 --> 00:13:00,200 The atmosphere that I sensed 142 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,600 in the cubicles that were surrounding me 143 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,300 - was of experimentation. - [Music fades] 144 00:13:06,333 --> 00:13:11,267 They wanted to experiment, to find something different than what 145 00:13:11,267 --> 00:13:16,100 they knew, and they weren't even sure what that was going to be. 146 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:19,900 I think they were interested in America, definitely. 147 00:13:19,967 --> 00:13:25,967 But, strangely enough, I think it was the abstract expressionist painters and the 148 00:13:26,067 --> 00:13:33,667 anti-traditionalism of those artists that really intrigued the British painters. 149 00:13:33,700 --> 00:13:35,867 [Melancholy music] 150 00:13:38,700 --> 00:13:45,200 [Hockney] The main thing then was abstraction. 151 00:13:45,233 --> 00:13:51,600 The abstract expressionists were very big, and so 152 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:57,200 by the end of my second year, I went to New York. 153 00:13:57,233 --> 00:14:00,100 [Music continues, siren wails] 154 00:14:05,100 --> 00:14:11,667 [Hockney] Somebody stopped me in the street and said they had this ticket for New York. 155 00:14:11,667 --> 00:14:14,867 And it cost £40. 156 00:14:14,900 --> 00:14:23,200 And all I had to give them was £10 now and I could have it if I gave the £30 later. 157 00:14:26,933 --> 00:14:31,200 I thought it cost £1,000 to go to America. 158 00:14:31,233 --> 00:14:34,467 I mean, I'd never thought of going to America. 159 00:14:34,533 --> 00:14:38,633 So, um, I said okay. 160 00:14:38,633 --> 00:14:46,700 I only had about £12, but I thought, "Well, I'll get the money somehow." 161 00:14:49,067 --> 00:14:57,900 I think almost the next day this letter came with a check for £100. 162 00:14:57,933 --> 00:15:00,867 I'd won a prize. 163 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:08,467 And then I started selling pictures for £10, 12, £15. 164 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:13,233 In the end, I went to America with... 165 00:15:13,267 --> 00:15:17,167 about $350. 166 00:15:17,233 --> 00:15:21,067 And that was to last me for two months. 167 00:15:21,067 --> 00:15:24,700 [Music continues; Cacophonous street noise] 168 00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:35,667 [Hockney] I had a great time in New York then. 169 00:15:35,667 --> 00:15:38,867 I thought New York was the place to be. 170 00:15:38,933 --> 00:15:40,600 That was it, I thought. 171 00:15:40,633 --> 00:15:46,367 I mean, it ran 24 hours a day then. Absolutely did. 172 00:15:46,433 --> 00:15:49,467 [Music continues, siren wails] 173 00:15:58,567 --> 00:16:00,833 [Woman] ...putting whipped cream on your head. 174 00:16:00,867 --> 00:16:03,233 But this is Lady Clairol Whipped Creme. 175 00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:06,367 It makes every bleach I've ever used old-fashioned. 176 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,400 [Man] It's the fabulous new way to be blonde, beautifully. 177 00:16:10,467 --> 00:16:15,067 Lady Clairol hair lightener whips instantly, never runs or drips. 178 00:16:15,067 --> 00:16:19,700 [Mark] I was living in my parents' home in Long Island in Long Beach. 179 00:16:19,700 --> 00:16:26,067 Friends of mine and David were all in my house one evening watching television. 180 00:16:26,067 --> 00:16:28,600 - [Music subsides] - And this ad came on. 181 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,600 I don't even remember what we were watching. 182 00:16:30,667 --> 00:16:34,233 But this ad came on for Clairol, and saying, you know, 183 00:16:34,233 --> 00:16:38,700 everybody should go blonde because blondes have more fun. 184 00:16:38,733 --> 00:16:43,067 And they all looked at it and they said, "Wow. That sounds good." 185 00:16:43,067 --> 00:16:47,167 And they rushed out and bought Clairol hair dye, and they 186 00:16:47,167 --> 00:16:51,767 were all sitting in my parents' living room dying their hair. 187 00:16:51,833 --> 00:16:55,300 My father walked in and almost had a heart attack. 188 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:58,067 You know, "What the hell is going on here?" 189 00:16:58,067 --> 00:17:02,400 But that's where David decided he was gonna be blonde for the rest of his life. 190 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,933 Is he still blonde? 191 00:17:03,967 --> 00:17:06,400 [Jaunty music] 192 00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:43,067 [Music concludes] 193 00:17:43,067 --> 00:17:45,833 [Lively chatter] 194 00:17:45,833 --> 00:17:47,067 Lovely, aren't they? 195 00:17:47,067 --> 00:17:49,600 You can drop 'em on a stone floor and pick 'em up again. 196 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:50,767 Eight pieces. 197 00:17:50,767 --> 00:17:53,733 Give me eight and six for the half a dozen. 198 00:17:53,733 --> 00:17:56,067 Eight shillings, half a dozen! 199 00:17:57,533 --> 00:18:00,500 [Ruminative music] 200 00:18:08,867 --> 00:18:10,600 Right. 201 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,600 [Indistinct conversation] 202 00:18:25,733 --> 00:18:28,233 [Music continues] 203 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:04,933 [Music continues] 204 00:19:14,233 --> 00:19:18,067 [Margaret] He was always drawing, always, as long as I can ever remember. 205 00:19:18,067 --> 00:19:21,667 When he had little stubby fingers, he'd be drawing something. 206 00:19:21,667 --> 00:19:25,567 And he never stopped. And we didn't have paper like you have today, 207 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,600 but you've got the edge of notebooks and things or... 208 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,067 anything where there was a space... a bus ticket, even. 209 00:19:33,067 --> 00:19:35,900 So if you were on a bus, he'd have a pencil in his hand 210 00:19:35,900 --> 00:19:38,900 probably drawing other passengers, things like that. 211 00:19:40,900 --> 00:19:43,967 [Music continues] 212 00:19:44,067 --> 00:19:45,867 [Fryer sizzles] 213 00:19:48,433 --> 00:19:50,300 [Music continues] 214 00:20:06,267 --> 00:20:10,067 [Sewing machine rattles] 215 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:15,967 - The weight. Oh, yeah. Wow, the weight. - [Music concludes] 216 00:20:15,967 --> 00:20:20,267 - When you think now, you can get it on Kindle, can't you? - [She laughs] 217 00:20:20,267 --> 00:20:22,133 Yeah. 218 00:20:22,167 --> 00:20:24,400 Ah, yes, this is the sort of thing. 219 00:20:25,900 --> 00:20:30,933 He would have been all excited about "who's done these?" and "why have they done them?" 220 00:20:30,933 --> 00:20:35,300 And, I mean, brilliant, especially when you go back with the history as well. 221 00:20:35,333 --> 00:20:38,133 So, yes, this would have influenced him. 222 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,333 You see, this was the only way you could see the world, wasn't it? 223 00:20:45,333 --> 00:20:49,600 I mean, there was Cartwright Hall in Bradford with some pictures. 224 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,333 By looking at pictures, he would realize, "I can do what I like." 225 00:20:53,367 --> 00:20:55,467 Once you've seen these, can't you? 226 00:20:55,500 --> 00:20:59,700 And it would give him the freedom to be an artist and be an artist 227 00:20:59,700 --> 00:21:04,500 who painted exactly what he wanted to paint, what he needed to paint. 228 00:21:04,533 --> 00:21:08,467 He'd be looking at these and looking at the techniques and why they did... 229 00:21:08,467 --> 00:21:11,067 He'd see it totally with his eye, which would be 230 00:21:11,067 --> 00:21:14,900 quite different to what the rest of us would see. 231 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:17,867 "Badges." 232 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:27,467 - [Man] "Good health is worth more than a fortune." - [Badges rustle] 233 00:21:27,467 --> 00:21:29,133 Put those in the car. 234 00:21:29,167 --> 00:21:31,333 - [Man 2] You're gonna take them? - [Man] Yep. 235 00:21:31,367 --> 00:21:37,933 Do you remember the hens on the field up here before they built the houses? 236 00:21:38,067 --> 00:21:40,533 - Oh, you'd only be ever so young. - [Hockney] Oh, yes. On... 237 00:21:40,567 --> 00:21:43,567 Well, I have that somewhere. It's framed. 238 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,667 Did you see anything, Margaret? 239 00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:47,533 No, I can't find those cuff links. 240 00:21:47,567 --> 00:21:52,200 [Margaret] We used to live in Steadman Terrace during the war. 241 00:21:52,233 --> 00:21:56,067 It was a small house and closed in. 242 00:21:56,067 --> 00:21:58,267 It was claustrophobic, actually, yes. 243 00:21:58,333 --> 00:22:00,700 And there were five of us. All right, we were 244 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:02,700 only small, so that didn't matter too much. 245 00:22:02,733 --> 00:22:09,100 And it was at the top of a hill and if it was dark, you couldn't see a thing anywhere. 246 00:22:09,133 --> 00:22:13,533 There was a lot of darkness from that house in my memory, so probably the same with David. 247 00:22:16,233 --> 00:22:22,067 But I think the claustrophobia could have been a bit of emotional as well as space wise. 248 00:22:22,067 --> 00:22:24,067 I know he always says he likes space. 249 00:22:27,533 --> 00:22:30,533 But you do need space from people as well, don't you? 250 00:22:31,767 --> 00:22:35,100 In fact, that is what space is, isn't it, actually? 251 00:22:35,133 --> 00:22:38,067 What else is space? Being alone. 252 00:22:41,333 --> 00:22:44,267 [Music - "L-O-V-E" by Nat King Cole] 253 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:53,967 * "L" is for the way you look at me 254 00:22:54,067 --> 00:23:00,633 * "O" is for the only one I see... * 255 00:23:00,667 --> 00:23:05,433 [Hockney] Within one week of coming here, I'd never driven before. 256 00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:09,867 I'd got a driving license, bought a car, got a studio and got a living. 257 00:23:09,933 --> 00:23:11,600 I thought, "This is the place." 258 00:23:11,633 --> 00:23:14,667 It's got all the energy of the United States with the 259 00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:20,500 Mediterranean thrown in, which I think is a wonderful combination. 260 00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:23,100 [Sprightly music] 261 00:23:37,700 --> 00:23:40,633 [Betty] David took some snapshots. 262 00:23:40,667 --> 00:23:45,567 He took Polaroids of me standing in front of the barroom. 263 00:23:45,633 --> 00:23:49,133 And I was dusting some of the heads, 'cause I had a lot of animal heads. 264 00:23:49,167 --> 00:23:53,300 - My first husband was a great white hunter. - [Gunshot reverberates] 265 00:23:53,333 --> 00:23:57,467 And David only took about three black and white Polaroids. 266 00:23:57,500 --> 00:24:00,800 I said, "David, how can you work from black and white?" 267 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,200 "Oh," he said, "I can only work from black and white photographs 268 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,600 because the color of photography is never the same as real life." 269 00:24:09,667 --> 00:24:12,567 Anyway, so he took the pictures and I said, "There's only 270 00:24:12,567 --> 00:24:16,700 one thing you could call this painting, since I'm dusting." 271 00:24:16,733 --> 00:24:18,933 It's called "Beverly Hills Housewife". 272 00:24:19,067 --> 00:24:21,867 [Music continues] 273 00:24:52,067 --> 00:24:54,433 [Music continues] 274 00:25:20,633 --> 00:25:23,067 [Sprinklers chitter] 275 00:25:36,333 --> 00:25:39,100 [Music concludes, seagull caws] 276 00:25:39,133 --> 00:25:43,867 Some people will say, well, LA is a good place to hide. 277 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,700 You can cull out a private life here for yourself if you wish, and a lot of people do that. 278 00:25:51,700 --> 00:25:55,067 - Because of the kind of setup of the city and everything. - [Helicopter blades whir] 279 00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:59,100 People don't walk here. They take cars. 280 00:25:59,133 --> 00:26:02,067 And David's had this place here for many years. 281 00:26:02,067 --> 00:26:06,800 But he wasn't part of a community like Venice or downtown LA. 282 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:12,700 But he just managed to get around, uh, all over the city. 283 00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:19,067 And, uh, I know that he would like to go out on rides, you know, driving 284 00:26:19,067 --> 00:26:25,067 way out in the country, and I think he's done that several times too. 285 00:26:25,067 --> 00:26:26,800 - I'll be there. - [Man, on phone] Okay. 286 00:26:26,833 --> 00:26:31,400 A guy came. He was asking about you earlier. He may try to reach you. 287 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,333 - [Hockney] All right, love. Bye. - [Man] See you later. 288 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:46,067 [Boy] My daddy promised me a horse all for myself when I got here from back east. 289 00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:50,067 He said a boy needs a horse to love, and if it's the right boy, 290 00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:53,100 the horse will learn to love him too. 291 00:26:53,167 --> 00:26:56,267 [Adventuresome orchestral music] 292 00:27:07,767 --> 00:27:10,533 - [Man] There he is. Boy, he's a beauty. - [Horse whinnies] 293 00:27:10,567 --> 00:27:12,767 No wonder he's the king of the wild herd. 294 00:27:12,767 --> 00:27:14,900 I've just gotta get him today. 295 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:17,900 That's for sure, Bob. We can't disappoint that kid of yours. 296 00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:19,533 [Man 2] He's coming in on the 459... 297 00:27:19,533 --> 00:27:21,733 [Hockney] When I arrived here, somebody said, 298 00:27:21,767 --> 00:27:24,900 "Well, why have you come to this cultural desert?" 299 00:27:24,933 --> 00:27:31,200 Well, I didn't think it was a cultural desert because I knew Hollywood was here. 300 00:27:31,233 --> 00:27:33,800 Come on, boys. Come on. 301 00:27:33,867 --> 00:27:38,300 My father loved the cinema. So did we as kids. 302 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,633 And, remember, I'm about the last generation brought up without television. 303 00:27:43,667 --> 00:27:47,067 I was 18 years old when we first got television. 304 00:27:47,067 --> 00:27:49,433 So my childhood was radio and things. 305 00:27:49,433 --> 00:27:53,767 But we loved the pictures. They were always called "the pictures." 306 00:27:53,767 --> 00:27:56,833 Not the movies, not the cinema. The pictures. 307 00:27:56,900 --> 00:27:58,900 "Can we go to the pictures?" 308 00:27:58,933 --> 00:28:01,467 They had a powerful effect on me, you know. 309 00:28:01,467 --> 00:28:03,267 We used to go in the side entrance. 310 00:28:03,267 --> 00:28:06,667 And, of course, there was a lavatory down there 311 00:28:06,667 --> 00:28:09,400 with an exit, and kids used to go and open it. 312 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,967 Little kids would run in free, you know, doing that. 313 00:28:12,967 --> 00:28:16,800 I used to tell them, "If you walk in backwards, they'll think you're coming out." 314 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,467 And I would point this out, though. 315 00:28:19,467 --> 00:28:23,500 Probably because you were sitting near the front, 316 00:28:23,533 --> 00:28:27,800 - the edges of the screen seemed unimportant. - [Adventuresome music] 317 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,433 They were miles away. 318 00:28:29,467 --> 00:28:32,333 - [Music stops] - You thought they were absolutely miles away. 319 00:28:32,333 --> 00:28:36,600 Whereas now I'm very, very aware of the edges 320 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,533 of the screen, often making a pokey picture. 321 00:28:39,533 --> 00:28:43,533 But at that time I never thought any picture was pokey 322 00:28:43,533 --> 00:28:48,333 because it was offering you another world from dingy Bradford. 323 00:28:48,333 --> 00:28:54,167 Remember, you're walking through dingy streets to a little local cinema, and when you 324 00:28:54,167 --> 00:29:00,100 come out, you've been all over, you've been in the French Revolution or somewhere. 325 00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:03,067 So you come out with your imagination working. 326 00:29:03,067 --> 00:29:06,333 It was pictures, pictures, pictures. 327 00:29:06,367 --> 00:29:09,167 [Adventuresome music; Bullets ricochet] 328 00:29:12,267 --> 00:29:14,600 [Music continues] 329 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:23,333 I've always said, in a way, I was brought up in Hollywood and Bradford, 330 00:29:23,367 --> 00:29:28,067 because most of the films we saw were American, when I think of it. 331 00:29:28,067 --> 00:29:30,533 [Jaunty orchestral music] 332 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,433 [Hockney] I went to the cinema a lot and we'd go home on the bus. 333 00:29:45,267 --> 00:29:48,367 I'd always go upstairs to the front of the bus. 334 00:29:50,067 --> 00:29:54,133 I always traveled upstairs on the bus, always 335 00:29:54,133 --> 00:29:57,433 on the front seat, so you could see more. 336 00:29:57,467 --> 00:30:00,467 I always wanted to see more. 337 00:30:00,533 --> 00:30:03,200 [Music continues] 338 00:30:08,967 --> 00:30:11,067 [Music concludes] 339 00:30:19,267 --> 00:30:23,067 I, uh, was coming back from New York, and I'd bought in 340 00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:29,733 New York some nudist magazines, some male nudist magazines. 341 00:30:29,767 --> 00:30:33,800 And at the airport the customs man, who was about 22 years 342 00:30:33,833 --> 00:30:38,433 old, opened the bag, and they sorted out the magazines. 343 00:30:38,467 --> 00:30:42,133 If they were completely nude, he put them on one side and if they were not 344 00:30:42,133 --> 00:30:46,200 quite nude, he put them on another side and then they kept the nude magazines. 345 00:30:46,267 --> 00:30:51,800 And I protested and said, "Oh, come on. Don't be silly. Just give me them back." 346 00:30:51,833 --> 00:30:55,967 And this, that and the other. And they took them away. 347 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,967 And I kept phoning up the customs office in the city. 348 00:31:01,067 --> 00:31:03,133 And I kept speaking to a man. 349 00:31:03,167 --> 00:31:06,967 I don't know what his name was, Mr Hittet, Hillet or something. 350 00:31:07,067 --> 00:31:09,633 And he said, "Oh, they are definitely pornographic." 351 00:31:09,633 --> 00:31:12,067 He'd looked through, and in one of the photographs 352 00:31:12,133 --> 00:31:16,467 the boys had painted their genitals with psychedelic colors. 353 00:31:16,467 --> 00:31:19,300 And I just didn't know what to say to somebody 354 00:31:19,333 --> 00:31:22,733 who didn't think that was amusing or funny. 355 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:29,400 And then in the end I had to get a lawyer, and I showed him magazines of a similar 356 00:31:29,467 --> 00:31:34,733 kind, and the moment the lawyer wrote the letter to them, they immediately came back. 357 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,133 And a man appeared on the doorstep in a peaked cap with a big envelope marked "On 358 00:31:39,133 --> 00:31:43,567 "On Her Majesty's Service" and said, "You know what these are," and handed them in. 359 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,433 [Laid-back music] 360 00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:09,600 [Mark] David became particularly intrigued at the Royal College of Art 361 00:32:09,667 --> 00:32:13,600 because I had a lot of magazines like 362 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,967 American Model Guild and Physique Pictorial stuck up 363 00:32:18,067 --> 00:32:22,200 in my cubicle, and this fascinated him, of course. 364 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,733 I was very out already in New York, 365 00:32:24,733 --> 00:32:29,233 despite the fact that it was the '60s, and I had a lot of trouble 366 00:32:29,233 --> 00:32:31,967 being out and I'd been beaten up several times by, 367 00:32:31,967 --> 00:32:37,067 you know, anti-gay homophobes, but I just didn't care. 368 00:32:37,067 --> 00:32:40,100 And I thought, well, you know, England is probably okay, you know. 369 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:43,200 Nobody cares there about this sort of stuff. 370 00:32:43,233 --> 00:32:48,167 And he was intrigued to meet somebody who was so out, because I don't think he 371 00:32:48,233 --> 00:32:54,967 knew anybody at that point who was quite out, and so we became very close friends. 372 00:32:55,067 --> 00:32:57,300 [Music continues] 373 00:33:25,633 --> 00:33:27,867 [Music concludes] 374 00:33:27,933 --> 00:33:31,167 [Colin] A couple of times I've shared a bed with Hockney, 375 00:33:31,167 --> 00:33:34,133 and once was I was stuck for somewhere to kip. 376 00:33:34,167 --> 00:33:40,300 Has anyone ever mentioned his five-foot-tall turquoise teddy bear that he had? 377 00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:44,267 This fucking great teddy bear from here to the wall, 378 00:33:44,267 --> 00:33:49,167 with big eyes it had, and it's turquoise sort of fluff. 379 00:33:49,167 --> 00:33:52,567 So this went down the middle of the bed, you see, between 380 00:33:52,633 --> 00:33:56,200 sort of like straights and gays, if you know what I mean. 381 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,733 And I was this side, you see, and this fucking great teddy bear. 382 00:34:00,767 --> 00:34:02,067 And you couldn't even see David. 383 00:34:02,067 --> 00:34:05,233 And then the next morning, we both woke up. 384 00:34:05,233 --> 00:34:09,867 And David sort of does this sit up in bed above this turquoise teddy bear, 385 00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:13,967 and no glasses, you see, and he sort of goes... He sort of goes like this. 386 00:34:13,967 --> 00:34:18,533 - He sort of goes, "Hello!" - [He laughs] 387 00:34:18,567 --> 00:34:21,900 [Sprightly orchestral music] 388 00:34:29,833 --> 00:34:33,766 [Mark] The paintings all related, whether superficially or 389 00:34:33,833 --> 00:34:37,733 intensely, on his life and his trying to deal with his 390 00:34:37,766 --> 00:34:42,199 homosexuality, and trying to deal with his fantasies, 391 00:34:42,233 --> 00:34:47,100 and trying to deal with the issues of a sexual identity. 392 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:52,199 And he used wit to play with these identities. 393 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,733 [Music continues] 394 00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:05,600 He was really like a little high-school girl about it, really. 395 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:12,433 I mean, it-it was all fantasy and some sort of cutesy stuff. 396 00:35:12,467 --> 00:35:15,100 I mean, like his fantasies about... 397 00:35:15,133 --> 00:35:18,600 Who is that rock singer? Cliff Richard. 398 00:35:18,633 --> 00:35:21,067 [Music continues] 399 00:35:26,433 --> 00:35:30,333 [Mark] I don't think he had had sex at any point yet with a 400 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,267 man, but I think he certainly fantasized a lot about it. 401 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:36,667 [Music continues] 402 00:35:39,333 --> 00:35:41,800 [Mark] With David it was probably something about a way 403 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:47,167 to get out something about himself, but I don't know 404 00:35:47,233 --> 00:35:50,800 if that was the core of the painting, because, you know, 405 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,933 it's not just pictures of men fucking. 406 00:35:52,967 --> 00:35:55,533 There's something much more in there. 407 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,767 And homosexuality, it's sort of a witty side issue. 408 00:35:59,767 --> 00:36:02,133 Even if it seems to be the subject of the painting, 409 00:36:02,133 --> 00:36:04,600 it's not the subject of the painting. 410 00:36:05,967 --> 00:36:09,500 If anything, the homosexual elements in his paintings, 411 00:36:09,533 --> 00:36:13,333 for me, were points to roam into the painting 412 00:36:13,333 --> 00:36:17,500 and see other things and give clues to maybe parts 413 00:36:17,533 --> 00:36:21,167 of the painting, but they weren't the painting. 414 00:36:28,967 --> 00:36:32,233 [Music - "L-O-V-E" by Nat King Cole] 415 00:36:34,533 --> 00:36:40,967 * "L" is for the way you look at me 416 00:36:41,067 --> 00:36:47,233 * "O" is for the only one I see 417 00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:53,767 * "V" is very, very extraordinary 418 00:36:53,767 --> 00:37:00,933 * "E" is even more than anyone that you adore can love... * 419 00:37:01,067 --> 00:37:05,700 When I went to Los Angeles, it was really... 420 00:37:05,733 --> 00:37:09,200 three times better than I thought it would be. 421 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,733 * Just a game for two... 422 00:37:11,767 --> 00:37:14,567 [Hockney] I thought, "Well, this is it. Hollywood is near here." 423 00:37:14,567 --> 00:37:17,933 And I'd just read an American novel 424 00:37:18,067 --> 00:37:23,533 called City of Night by John Rechy, which has accounts of kind 425 00:37:23,567 --> 00:37:27,267 of low life in American cities, and I thought it was all 426 00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:30,067 wonderful and colorful and everything. 427 00:37:30,067 --> 00:37:34,900 But, um, I wanted to get up to Hollywood and see what it was 428 00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:39,400 all like and see the hustlers and the scene and everything. 429 00:37:39,433 --> 00:37:43,700 And I bought a bicycle to go there, because I didn't know how to 430 00:37:43,733 --> 00:37:47,467 get there, and, of course, it's about 16 miles from Santa Monica. 431 00:37:47,533 --> 00:37:49,900 [Car horn] 432 00:37:49,933 --> 00:37:51,967 [Sultry music] 433 00:37:57,067 --> 00:38:02,400 "Later I would think of America as one vast city of night stretching gaudily 434 00:38:02,433 --> 00:38:08,467 "from Times Square to Hollywood Boulevard, jukebox winking, rock 'n' roll moaning. 435 00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:11,767 "America at night fusing its dark cities 436 00:38:11,767 --> 00:38:16,267 "into the unmistakable shape of loneliness. 437 00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:21,167 "Remember Pershing Square and the apathetic palm trees, one-night 438 00:38:21,233 --> 00:38:28,500 "sex and cigarette smoke and rooms squashed in by loneliness. 439 00:38:28,533 --> 00:38:33,967 "And I would remember lives lived out darkly in that vast city 440 00:38:33,967 --> 00:38:40,267 "of night, from all-night movies to Beverly Hills mansions." 441 00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:42,633 [Music continues] 442 00:38:49,767 --> 00:38:52,367 [Thunder crashes] 443 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,233 [Hockney] I got there and realized there was nobody in Pershing Square. 444 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:09,467 It had all altered, this empty thing, big palm trees. 445 00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:17,367 And I did find a bar later, but it was then I realized, well, I need a car. 446 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,900 You just need a car. A bicycle won't do, I mean. 447 00:39:20,967 --> 00:39:24,467 - So I gave the bicycle away and bought a car. - [Music concludes] 448 00:39:25,733 --> 00:39:28,167 [Indistinct chatter] 449 00:39:31,733 --> 00:39:36,067 [Hockney] I used to work on a morning, and then in the afternoon it 450 00:39:36,067 --> 00:39:39,600 got very hot and sunny, so I'd go and lie on the beach. 451 00:39:39,667 --> 00:39:41,900 [Wind rushes] 452 00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:47,167 [Hockney] And then I'd work again in the evening. 453 00:39:47,233 --> 00:39:51,900 And I'd maybe work until about 10:00 or 11:00. 454 00:39:51,933 --> 00:39:55,400 And then I'd go for a drink, you see. 455 00:39:55,433 --> 00:39:59,300 In California the bars don't close until 2:00, 456 00:39:59,367 --> 00:40:03,433 which seems to me, in a way, the ideal hour. 457 00:40:03,467 --> 00:40:07,200 If you're going to close them at all, it's the ideal hour. 458 00:40:07,233 --> 00:40:09,033 Because in a way it's not too late, 459 00:40:09,067 --> 00:40:13,733 and you can make up your mind about things, I suppose, you see, at 2:00. 460 00:40:13,767 --> 00:40:16,067 4:00 is a bit late, really. 461 00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,567 [Downbeat jazz music] 462 00:40:19,933 --> 00:40:21,767 [Hockney] You can go in a bar and meet 463 00:40:21,767 --> 00:40:27,067 the equivalent of a plumber from Brooklyn could be sat at the next stool, 464 00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:32,100 and some other guy, you know, a movie-maker from 465 00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:35,933 Hollywood could be sat at the... 466 00:40:35,967 --> 00:40:37,767 on the next stool. 467 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,633 I mean, that can happen. In London, you can't. 468 00:40:40,667 --> 00:40:43,900 [Music continues, skateboard wheels rattle] 469 00:40:48,467 --> 00:40:54,833 Los Angeles to, uh, David meant surfers. 470 00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:58,000 And there were a lot of boys around. 471 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,667 And, uh... And all that was, uh, 472 00:41:01,667 --> 00:41:04,367 I think, very... 473 00:41:04,367 --> 00:41:09,267 erotic and beautiful to David, and he depicted it. 474 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,533 [Music continues] 475 00:41:35,567 --> 00:41:37,667 [Jack] It was 1964, 476 00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:44,900 and Chris Isherwood phoned and said that a young English artist had phoned 477 00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:47,733 - him who was here in Santa Monica... - [Music subsides] 478 00:41:47,733 --> 00:41:53,333 ..and could he come by and visit Chris on an afternoon? 479 00:41:53,367 --> 00:41:56,633 And Chris said, "Of course." 480 00:41:56,667 --> 00:42:04,233 David Hockney arrived very dyed blonde, in my memory was in a gold jacket. 481 00:42:05,433 --> 00:42:08,333 [Birdsong; Insects chirr] 482 00:42:09,567 --> 00:42:13,567 Chris was a distinguished writer, and I suppose 483 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,533 the most famous British queer living in LA. 484 00:42:17,533 --> 00:42:24,533 And, yes, David would have known about him and would have read his books too. 485 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,733 We'd already been together 15 years, 486 00:42:32,767 --> 00:42:36,733 and at that time that was considered phenomenal. 487 00:42:36,733 --> 00:42:42,233 Two men living together and 30 years difference between them, 488 00:42:42,267 --> 00:42:45,767 and they haven't, uh, shot one another 489 00:42:45,767 --> 00:42:51,367 or at least split up. 490 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,267 - Yeah. - [He chuckles] 491 00:42:56,067 --> 00:43:02,467 He took a lot of photographs and even did some preliminary drawings. 492 00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:08,833 Chris, he got that figure in the painting right away, and you 493 00:43:08,833 --> 00:43:14,467 can tell from looking at the painting, it's very freshly painted. 494 00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:17,567 It was a really first version. 495 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,167 And it was good. I kept it. 496 00:43:20,167 --> 00:43:26,800 And, of course, he had the photographs to-to remind him. 497 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:32,767 The painting of me is much heavier technique, if you look closely. 498 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,167 He had a lot of trouble with me. 499 00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:42,800 I think it may have given David the idea of finding a partner 500 00:43:42,833 --> 00:43:47,500 for himself, since it seemed to work well for Chris and me. 501 00:43:53,067 --> 00:43:55,533 [Wind rushes] 502 00:43:55,533 --> 00:43:59,333 [Jack] David met a student at UCLA during the summer, 503 00:43:59,367 --> 00:44:03,400 Peter Schlesinger, and he liked Peter very much. 504 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,967 I believe Peter was what David was somehow looking for. 505 00:44:07,967 --> 00:44:11,867 But he called once, and he was taking this 506 00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:17,567 young student of his from Tarzana in the Valley. 507 00:44:17,567 --> 00:44:20,833 There's a place called Tarzana where... 508 00:44:20,867 --> 00:44:24,467 [He chuckles continuously] 509 00:44:24,467 --> 00:44:29,900 Burroughs lived in Tarzana and created Tarzan. 510 00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:34,233 Edgar Rice Burroughs created it in the Valley. 511 00:44:34,267 --> 00:44:36,200 And so it's called Tarzana. 512 00:44:36,233 --> 00:44:41,700 And... And David did a now famous painting of Peter 513 00:44:41,733 --> 00:44:45,600 which is called The Room, Tarzana. 514 00:44:50,567 --> 00:44:55,067 [Don] He was a very attractive young man, and quite beautiful. 515 00:44:55,067 --> 00:44:59,700 And, yes, I think David was enchanted by him. 516 00:45:02,267 --> 00:45:07,067 Neither had ever lived in a romantic relationship with a 517 00:45:07,067 --> 00:45:11,467 partner, and that made it a lot of fun to be around them. 518 00:45:11,567 --> 00:45:13,567 [Birdsong] 519 00:45:16,433 --> 00:45:18,567 [Joyful music] 520 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,467 [John] My first encounter was with a picture, not with David as a person. 521 00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:41,667 I was captured by Doll Boy as a picture that seemed to me original 522 00:45:41,733 --> 00:45:46,833 and gay in the old sense of the word and, uh, 523 00:45:46,833 --> 00:45:50,667 rule breaking and witty. 524 00:45:50,733 --> 00:45:54,767 I particularly liked that painting and, at that time, had 525 00:45:54,767 --> 00:45:59,833 sufficient money to buy it outright and then wanted to meet David. 526 00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:01,633 [Music concludes] 527 00:46:01,667 --> 00:46:03,567 [Birdsong] 528 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:08,133 [John] David acquired fans... 529 00:46:08,167 --> 00:46:10,633 with enormous facility. 530 00:46:10,667 --> 00:46:14,933 Cecil Beaton had already bought a picture on one of his visits to the Royal College. 531 00:46:18,833 --> 00:46:23,933 It was a time when Snowdon was making photographs for a book called Private View, 532 00:46:23,967 --> 00:46:30,100 and people saw the potential in David as someone that you could write a lot about. 533 00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:33,933 I had great ambition at the time. 534 00:46:33,967 --> 00:46:36,900 I wanted to show what I thought of as the greatest art. 535 00:46:36,967 --> 00:46:41,333 I'd formulated a pretty strong idea of what I liked most, and 536 00:46:41,333 --> 00:46:45,733 it was almost entirely American abstract color field painting. 537 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,867 But, of course, in England I wanted to represent what I thought was the best in 538 00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:55,400 English painting, whether it fitted in with all of the American taste or not. 539 00:46:55,467 --> 00:46:59,167 And Hockney was the only figurative artist that I found 540 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,900 interesting, exciting, that I wanted to be the defender of. 541 00:47:08,367 --> 00:47:14,067 You could say David was the only figurative artist in a deadly serious abstract place. 542 00:47:14,067 --> 00:47:18,267 But, in fact, the influence of the ones on the other were quite strong. 543 00:47:18,267 --> 00:47:21,333 I mean, a number of his pictures were painted 544 00:47:21,333 --> 00:47:24,400 thinking about color field painting, you know. 545 00:47:29,733 --> 00:47:37,067 He'd already pretty rapidly became a blonde, a flamboyant dresser... 546 00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:38,733 [Indistinct chatter] 547 00:47:38,767 --> 00:47:40,300 ..a maker of public statements. 548 00:47:40,367 --> 00:47:43,933 I mean, the sort of person that draws the attention of journalists. 549 00:47:43,967 --> 00:47:47,433 And it was at the very moment when... 550 00:47:47,467 --> 00:47:52,433 the eye of the press and the tastemakers was on 551 00:47:52,433 --> 00:47:55,700 - the British art world and fashion world. - [Jazz music] 552 00:47:55,700 --> 00:48:00,500 And David stood out as one of the banner carriers for the new 553 00:48:00,533 --> 00:48:06,733 approach to art, life and, in fact, the emerging openness of gay life. 554 00:48:06,767 --> 00:48:08,900 [Music continues] 555 00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:17,567 [John] David always had a sense of humor. 556 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,800 For instance, when Tony Snowdon said, "Come round and have a look 557 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,300 "at Kensington Palace," when he was married to Princess Margaret. 558 00:48:24,333 --> 00:48:26,667 Tony used to take great delight in those days 559 00:48:26,733 --> 00:48:30,067 showing you the bathroom with the "M" and the coronet on 560 00:48:30,067 --> 00:48:32,967 top of the lavatory seat, and saying, "You can have a pee, 561 00:48:33,067 --> 00:48:35,767 you know, in Margaret's lav, if you like." 562 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,600 Then he asked David to sign the visitor's book, and David said, 563 00:48:38,633 --> 00:48:40,767 "No, no," he said, "I'm not gonna sign that. 564 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,433 "I don't want my name in there come the revolution." 565 00:48:44,467 --> 00:48:46,800 [Music continues] 566 00:48:48,267 --> 00:48:50,533 [Indistinct chatter] 567 00:48:51,833 --> 00:48:58,300 [Hockney] In 1962, I'd been at a demonstration in Trafalgar Square. 568 00:48:58,333 --> 00:49:03,167 When it was over, I thought I'd come in the National Gallery and have a look 569 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:10,633 at frescoes by Domenichino from a room in the Villa Aldobrandini near Rome. 570 00:49:10,667 --> 00:49:15,233 Then I became fascinated with things about the pictures. 571 00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:17,367 [Music subsides] 572 00:49:18,567 --> 00:49:23,533 The space of the picture, you see, is really only one foot. 573 00:49:23,567 --> 00:49:31,067 As you can see here, there's the picture begins here, and there's some floor. 574 00:49:31,067 --> 00:49:36,833 And the dwarf that you see is stood in front of this tapestry, 575 00:49:36,867 --> 00:49:39,333 which is the back of the picture. 576 00:49:39,367 --> 00:49:46,400 The picture is only the depth of a person, as a matter of fact, which is about one foot. 577 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,267 So I did my version of this painting. 578 00:49:50,333 --> 00:49:52,567 You can see the tapestry quite clearly, 579 00:49:52,567 --> 00:49:57,067 and you can see I've painted a fleur-de-lis border. 580 00:49:57,100 --> 00:50:01,167 And instead of a dwarf, I got a friend. 581 00:50:01,167 --> 00:50:06,167 In fact, he's an art dealer called Kasmin, to pose for me. 582 00:50:06,167 --> 00:50:12,900 And I defined the front of the picture by putting a sheet of glass over this section. 583 00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:16,567 And I got Kas to pose for this, and I did some drawings. 584 00:50:16,567 --> 00:50:20,967 And I took some photographs of him pressed against the glass. 585 00:50:20,967 --> 00:50:27,967 And so my figure is trapped between the tapestry and the glass. 586 00:50:28,033 --> 00:50:32,933 In fact, the idea of that painting I've kept repeating and 587 00:50:32,933 --> 00:50:38,600 repeating, and, um, the idea of a border still interests me. 588 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:44,433 For example, here's another painting that I did in Hollywood. 589 00:50:44,433 --> 00:50:48,800 Because it's got a border round it, you cannot, as it were, 590 00:50:48,833 --> 00:50:51,733 walk straight into the picture. 591 00:50:51,767 --> 00:50:54,933 If it's got a border, it's like this rope being here, 592 00:50:54,933 --> 00:50:59,300 and to climb into it, you've got to climb over this, 593 00:50:59,333 --> 00:51:02,333 you see, and then you'd have to go onto the diving board 594 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,400 and fall into the swimming pool, and there's the splash. 595 00:51:06,433 --> 00:51:08,500 [Water splashes] 596 00:51:08,567 --> 00:51:10,800 [Stirring music] 597 00:51:31,467 --> 00:51:35,933 [Raymond] Henry Geldzahler was a curator at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. 598 00:51:35,933 --> 00:51:39,600 - [Hockney, on intercom] Hello? - Hi, Dave. It's Henry. 599 00:51:42,233 --> 00:51:44,133 [Phone rings] 600 00:51:44,133 --> 00:51:48,400 [Raymond] It was obvious that David was the most important person in his life. 601 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,300 They spoke on the telephone almost every day for 20 or 30 minutes. 602 00:51:53,300 --> 00:51:55,900 Of course, in those days there were no mobile phones. 603 00:51:55,967 --> 00:52:00,933 There was a table where the telephone sat, and you had conversations. 604 00:52:00,933 --> 00:52:06,467 So I got to know David through one-sided phone conversations that Henry was 605 00:52:06,467 --> 00:52:11,867 having with him, and I realized they shared absolutely every aspect of their life. 606 00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:19,100 The art, the books, the friendships, the lovers, the gossip, everything. 607 00:52:19,167 --> 00:52:21,367 It was total friendship. 608 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,333 [Birdsong] 609 00:52:24,333 --> 00:52:28,233 David was essentially a figure of the 19th century in many respects. 610 00:52:28,233 --> 00:52:34,067 The literature, the art, the music that he was deeply involved in, 611 00:52:34,067 --> 00:52:36,067 much of it was 19th century. 612 00:52:36,067 --> 00:52:38,067 The same was true of Henry. 613 00:52:38,067 --> 00:52:41,333 - That's what David loved about Henry. - [Street noise] 614 00:52:41,333 --> 00:52:47,433 In the 1960s and the 1970s, David was a very unfashionable artist. 615 00:52:47,467 --> 00:52:49,967 He was involved with poetry, literature. 616 00:52:49,967 --> 00:52:53,800 He wanted to bring all of these things into his art. 617 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,400 So David was engaging all of these subjects that most 618 00:52:57,433 --> 00:53:01,167 artists were working very hard to eliminate from their work. 619 00:53:03,067 --> 00:53:08,933 He was, in many ways, a figure who was excluded from the contemporary dialogue 620 00:53:08,933 --> 00:53:15,133 that was taking place, and to have Henry's imprimatur, interest, friendship... 621 00:53:15,133 --> 00:53:17,467 I think it meant a great deal to him. 622 00:53:20,333 --> 00:53:25,600 And he was not shy about telling David what he liked and what he didn't like about 623 00:53:25,633 --> 00:53:31,267 both his art and his personality, but he always did it in a very loving, gentle way. 624 00:53:31,267 --> 00:53:34,600 One of the things that David relied on Henry 625 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,567 every six months or so would be to go through a stack of drawings. 626 00:53:37,567 --> 00:53:39,933 And every now and then there'd be something and Henry 627 00:53:39,933 --> 00:53:44,133 would pick it up and tear it up, throw it in the trash. 628 00:53:44,167 --> 00:53:47,267 [Contemplative orchestral music] 629 00:54:06,333 --> 00:54:11,167 [Hockney] If next week this country did collapse 630 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,067 but on the very day it collapsed, 631 00:54:15,067 --> 00:54:18,833 you met your absolute true love, 632 00:54:18,867 --> 00:54:22,700 you wouldn't give two hoots about the bloody place collapsing, would you? 633 00:54:22,733 --> 00:54:26,700 I mean, you know, you'd think, "Oh, all's right with the world." 634 00:54:26,733 --> 00:54:31,133 If we have a sandwich and a glass of beer, it doesn't matter. 635 00:54:31,167 --> 00:54:35,567 [Music continues; Somber operatic singing] 636 00:54:51,767 --> 00:54:55,933 [Celia] Lots of David's portraits are about togetherness, aren't they? 637 00:54:55,933 --> 00:55:01,433 Togetherness is two people, and it's always a kind of interesting equation for him. 638 00:55:01,433 --> 00:55:05,867 'Cause in a way we're all alone, but it's nice to be part of something 639 00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:08,100 and part of somebody else. 640 00:55:08,167 --> 00:55:11,200 [Sewing machines whir, phone rings] 641 00:55:12,533 --> 00:55:16,100 David and Ossie were really good pals. 642 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:21,700 Ossie was a very flamboyant character in his own way, and single-minded. 643 00:55:21,733 --> 00:55:25,733 In fact, his shows were quite unique, and he'd bill the 644 00:55:25,733 --> 00:55:32,067 music to the fashion models, to the whole catwalk experience. 645 00:55:33,933 --> 00:55:39,567 We were all pals together, and I suppose, leading a certain bohemian life. 646 00:55:39,567 --> 00:55:41,933 And it was very innocent then. 647 00:55:41,933 --> 00:55:48,467 You were enjoying being young and in London and doing things you really liked doing. 648 00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:50,733 [Applause; Music continues] 649 00:55:50,767 --> 00:55:56,133 [Celia] David asked Ossie and myself if we'd pose for him. 650 00:55:56,167 --> 00:56:00,067 I remember going to Powis Terrace and him taking lots of photographs. 651 00:56:00,067 --> 00:56:06,667 And I know, for instance, he couldn't get Ossie's feet correctly painted, 652 00:56:06,667 --> 00:56:12,300 so he put the shag pile carpet on the floor and hid his feet in the carpet. 653 00:56:12,333 --> 00:56:14,733 [Street noise] 654 00:56:17,133 --> 00:56:21,833 [Celia] And he made the bedroom into the sitting room because he wanted to 655 00:56:21,833 --> 00:56:26,633 choose various things that he thought were to do with our personalities. 656 00:56:30,633 --> 00:56:33,067 [Insects chirr] 657 00:56:35,067 --> 00:56:38,667 [Celia] I met Peter when he first came over with David. 658 00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:43,600 There was this new person to engage with, and it was Peter. 659 00:56:51,067 --> 00:56:53,467 I think he made a nice home for David. 660 00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:57,733 I think he wanted to have a stylish home. 661 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,633 [Somber operatic singing] 662 00:57:14,067 --> 00:57:15,367 [Rattling] 663 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,067 [Shower runs] 664 00:57:17,167 --> 00:57:24,600 [Tchaik] David had acquired the leases on the surrounding flats and said would I 665 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:32,600 knock the walls down between them and make a very lovely lateral apartment? 666 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:37,100 As far as I'm concerned, I just designed the flat that I'd want for myself. 667 00:57:37,167 --> 00:57:39,533 Little did I know I'd later have it. 668 00:57:39,567 --> 00:57:42,400 [Mechanical whirring] 669 00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:50,800 [Tchaik] David's quite sociable, so he likes to give parties, to have people around. 670 00:57:50,867 --> 00:57:56,400 So to have a big room at one end of the apartment and at the other and 671 00:57:56,467 --> 00:58:01,400 then a beautiful long gallery between them, that was very appealing. 672 00:58:01,433 --> 00:58:03,867 [Music continues] 673 00:58:23,267 --> 00:58:27,667 [Tchaik] Peter dealt with curtains and tiles 674 00:58:27,667 --> 00:58:32,633 and finishes and furniture. 675 00:58:32,633 --> 00:58:35,133 [Melissa] Peter would go out and hunt for things, 676 00:58:35,133 --> 00:58:39,767 and then he'd take David to see them and decide together. 677 00:58:39,767 --> 00:58:46,233 He would go out to the market and buy vases and, you know, bits and pieces. 678 00:58:46,233 --> 00:58:50,600 But if it was like a big thing, David would get very involved. 679 00:58:50,633 --> 00:58:53,533 [Music continues] 680 00:58:56,100 --> 00:59:00,067 [Hockney] He was the first person I lived with, yeah. 681 00:59:00,067 --> 00:59:04,667 - Yeah, it was very nice. Very, very nice. - [Music fades] 682 00:59:04,667 --> 00:59:10,600 You know, when people said to me, "Ah, well, when you said you were gay in 683 00:59:10,633 --> 00:59:14,667 1960 or something, and, 684 00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:18,967 well, it was illegal and this, that and the other." 685 00:59:18,967 --> 00:59:21,500 And I said, "Well... 686 00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:29,500 "I lived in Bohemia, and Bohemia is a tolerant place." 687 00:59:29,533 --> 00:59:32,133 [Bustling street noise; Siren wails] 688 00:59:33,633 --> 00:59:37,333 [Melissa] When he's in London, he quite often pops round. 689 00:59:39,067 --> 00:59:44,200 He used to just ring the doorbell and come in and prowl around. 690 00:59:46,167 --> 00:59:51,200 Particularly, he liked going into his old studio and just 691 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:55,567 standing there, remembering all the great paintings he did there. 692 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,400 [Soft orchestral music] 693 01:00:04,667 --> 01:00:07,400 [Music concludes] 694 01:00:07,433 --> 01:00:10,867 [Bright clavichord music] 695 01:00:22,633 --> 01:00:24,467 [Music concludes] 696 01:00:28,700 --> 01:00:35,300 The clavichord was near a doorway, which was near the window. 697 01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:37,767 And so it was... I was leaning against it. 698 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:38,800 Yes, and it was... 699 01:00:38,867 --> 01:00:41,100 With all our underwear all over the floor. 700 01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:43,567 Wayne's jockstraps were everywhere. 701 01:00:43,567 --> 01:00:45,700 Well, I needed them. 702 01:00:45,733 --> 01:00:47,733 Uh... 703 01:00:47,733 --> 01:00:53,433 I was playing A-flat, this note. 704 01:00:53,467 --> 01:00:58,100 And I wanted to call the painting, "A Flat". 705 01:00:58,133 --> 01:01:02,633 - [Wayne] A Small Flat. - [George] A very small flat, yes. 706 01:01:02,667 --> 01:01:06,400 But it was really a painting about stillness. 707 01:01:06,433 --> 01:01:09,967 I think it would have been wonderful. It's unfinished. 708 01:01:13,067 --> 01:01:17,433 [Wayne] The development of what should have been a really beautiful, serene 709 01:01:17,467 --> 01:01:23,100 happy, listening, still painting became a huge 710 01:01:23,133 --> 01:01:27,867 dilemma of mixtures of colors and unfinished sequences and 711 01:01:27,933 --> 01:01:32,700 painting out the floor and repainting in the background. 712 01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:37,467 And every time we went round there, there was something different going on. 713 01:01:37,467 --> 01:01:40,300 And I just thought, "This will never get done." 714 01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:47,300 [George] He was worried about something called the vanishing point. 715 01:01:47,333 --> 01:01:50,367 I think the problem wasn't really the vanishing point. 716 01:01:50,433 --> 01:01:52,267 It was the vanishing Peter. 717 01:01:52,300 --> 01:01:54,067 [Street noise] 718 01:01:54,067 --> 01:01:57,300 [Wayne] David was splitting up with Peter, 719 01:01:57,333 --> 01:02:01,900 and that was a very upsetting period for both of them, actually. 720 01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:06,067 [Don] David was very upset. 721 01:02:06,067 --> 01:02:09,900 He was, I think, genuinely in love with Peter. 722 01:02:09,967 --> 01:02:12,800 They had their troubles. 723 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:20,133 But, you know, starting a relationship is very tricky, even a man and a woman, 724 01:02:20,133 --> 01:02:26,767 and the first time either of them had ever been involved in such a relationship. 725 01:02:26,833 --> 01:02:29,867 Of course they were going to have problems. 726 01:02:33,067 --> 01:02:36,767 [Wayne] That was a very upsetting period. 727 01:02:36,767 --> 01:02:41,100 I think he was taking tranquilizers as well. 728 01:02:41,167 --> 01:02:44,267 He was just crying a lot. 729 01:02:44,333 --> 01:02:47,333 I mean, it had been a long period that he'd been with Peter, 730 01:02:47,333 --> 01:02:49,767 and it was just suddenly a devastating point, which 731 01:02:49,833 --> 01:02:53,067 actually did come through the picture, because it was an 732 01:02:53,067 --> 01:02:58,067 unfinished scene, like his life was unfinished without him. 733 01:03:02,133 --> 01:03:05,100 [Melancholy harp music] 734 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,267 [Stirring operatic singing] 735 01:03:38,167 --> 01:03:40,733 [Arthur] I think there were periods of depression. 736 01:03:43,967 --> 01:03:48,333 I have films of him lying on the water bed, obviously very depressed, 737 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,400 being comforted by Henry. 738 01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:01,800 Whether that was related to the breakup with Peter, or whether that was just 739 01:04:01,833 --> 01:04:08,433 something that is endemic to his personality, I've never been absolutely sure. 740 01:04:08,467 --> 01:04:16,067 He can be extremely up, and then we've all seen moods where he's not happy. 741 01:04:16,067 --> 01:04:18,867 [Music continues] 742 01:04:24,667 --> 01:04:26,867 - [Seagulls caw] - [Arthur] But he got a lot of support. 743 01:04:26,933 --> 01:04:31,400 In the summer of '75 and '76, both he and Henry 744 01:04:31,467 --> 01:04:35,300 stayed all summer at my house at the shore. 745 01:04:37,733 --> 01:04:40,200 It was right on the beach. 746 01:04:43,067 --> 01:04:46,467 He liked being there, and he liked painting. 747 01:04:46,467 --> 01:04:50,067 He uses his work to escape the world. 748 01:04:51,633 --> 01:04:54,200 And I remember he'd sit there in the living room 749 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,733 and paint and eat out of this huge barrel of something. 750 01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,467 It wasn't potato chips or something. 751 01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:04,367 Pretty soon the floor would be covered with them like they were sawdust or something. 752 01:05:04,367 --> 01:05:07,100 It was an absolutely... It was a unique time. 753 01:05:10,067 --> 01:05:14,267 That's where he started the Blue Guitar series. I think that was in '76. 754 01:05:14,333 --> 01:05:17,367 I'm not sure whether that idea came from Henry or... 755 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,367 'Cause Henry read a lot, read a lot of poetry, but David always read a lot too. 756 01:05:21,367 --> 01:05:26,500 So I don't know who got the idea, but he spent all summer doing that series. 757 01:05:26,533 --> 01:05:30,400 [Gentle, sweeping music; Seagulls caw] 758 01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:47,233 [Hockney] I mean, I'd begun the etchings, then I thought, the title... 759 01:05:47,267 --> 01:05:52,733 I just thought I would call it The Blue Guitar by David Hockney, 760 01:05:52,733 --> 01:05:58,233 inspired by Wallace Stevens, who was inspired by Pablo Picasso. 761 01:05:58,267 --> 01:06:01,633 And the names could get bigger as they go down. 762 01:06:08,733 --> 01:06:13,067 The source of the poem was a painting of Picasso, 763 01:06:13,100 --> 01:06:17,500 and so I'm turning the poem back into a painting and etchings. 764 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,133 "They said, 'You have a blue guitar. 765 01:06:22,167 --> 01:06:24,933 "'You do not play things as they are.' 766 01:06:24,967 --> 01:06:30,633 "The man replied, 'Things as they are are changed upon the blue guitar.' 767 01:06:30,667 --> 01:06:35,633 "And they said then, 'But play you must, a tune beyond us, yet ourselves, 768 01:06:35,667 --> 01:06:40,200 "a tune upon the blue guitar of things exactly as they are.'" 769 01:06:40,267 --> 01:06:42,333 [Music continues] 770 01:06:44,367 --> 01:06:49,067 [Hockney] When I read it, see, I loved the phrase, "You do not play things as they are," 771 01:06:49,067 --> 01:06:56,200 because the philistine response to Picasso was, "You do not paint things as they are." 772 01:06:56,267 --> 01:07:00,200 Well, there's no such thing as "things as they are." 773 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,100 - [Music subsides] - In painting, 774 01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:08,700 where you deceive the eye with all sorts of devices to make things look as they are... 775 01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:13,533 I don't know. The poem just triggered ideas in my head. 776 01:07:13,533 --> 01:07:16,333 So I started making drawings which are just inventions, 777 01:07:16,367 --> 01:07:21,067 which was a change for me from the past two years. 778 01:07:21,067 --> 01:07:24,867 In the painting, for instance, there's things. 779 01:07:24,867 --> 01:07:29,700 The colored line right at the top is simply a colored line, 780 01:07:29,700 --> 01:07:31,900 so that's absolutely as it is. 781 01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:33,733 There's no illusion there. 782 01:07:33,733 --> 01:07:37,600 But the water falling is illusionistic. 783 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,533 And you make references to other kinds of painting. 784 01:07:41,533 --> 01:07:45,367 I mean, playing games like that seemed such fun to me. 785 01:07:45,367 --> 01:07:47,333 I just went on and on. 786 01:07:47,367 --> 01:07:49,667 [Spirited orchestral music] 787 01:08:06,433 --> 01:08:10,767 [Arthur] The work has always been this core of David's life. 788 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,300 The first breakup was very difficult for him. 789 01:08:14,367 --> 01:08:22,100 But the art is the thing that gives him the anchor in life and in the world. 790 01:08:22,133 --> 01:08:26,933 I mean, I think anything that happens, as long as he's able to see 791 01:08:26,967 --> 01:08:30,133 the world through his painting and stuff, he could survive anything. 792 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,700 [Music concludes] 793 01:08:37,933 --> 01:08:40,467 [Peppy music] 794 01:08:42,267 --> 01:08:43,633 [Shutter clicks] 795 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:49,967 [Shutter clicks] 796 01:08:51,633 --> 01:08:53,067 [Shutter clicks] 797 01:08:59,666 --> 01:09:01,067 [Shutter clicks] 798 01:09:01,067 --> 01:09:04,233 You know, I've taken photographs for a long, long time, 799 01:09:04,233 --> 01:09:07,200 and I have about a hundred albums full of photographs. 800 01:09:07,267 --> 01:09:11,433 All my life. It's all recorded pictorially. 801 01:09:11,433 --> 01:09:15,367 Most people who ever come into it I photograph in some way. 802 01:09:15,367 --> 01:09:19,700 And later maybe I draw them, but usually I don't draw them instantly. 803 01:09:19,700 --> 01:09:23,467 I just take a snap. It is like a diary. 804 01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:26,100 [Music continues] 805 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,067 [Shutter clicks] 806 01:09:33,067 --> 01:09:35,333 [Shutter clicks] 807 01:09:35,367 --> 01:09:37,967 [Hockney] I'm just a snapper, really. 808 01:09:41,467 --> 01:09:44,567 [Music concludes] 809 01:09:44,567 --> 01:09:47,833 [Philip] We see so many photographic images and film images, and they're 810 01:09:47,833 --> 01:09:52,333 so mainstream, we're so used to thinking of those as the way 811 01:09:52,333 --> 01:09:56,967 of representing the world, but he knows that one can do things 812 01:09:57,067 --> 01:10:03,233 with painting that one cannot do with photographic technologies. 813 01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:05,900 One can express visions of the world, 814 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,100 ways of seeing, that invite you to look at things that 815 01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:12,100 you would only just glance at if it was a photograph 816 01:10:12,166 --> 01:10:14,833 or even if you were seeing it in reality. 817 01:10:14,833 --> 01:10:21,067 He's introducing something much more personal, something more moving. 818 01:10:21,100 --> 01:10:26,433 And he's trying with many tactics to show that painting can do this. 819 01:10:26,500 --> 01:10:29,867 [Insects chirr, water sloshes gently] 820 01:10:31,933 --> 01:10:34,433 [Bustling street noise] 821 01:10:34,433 --> 01:10:41,767 [Hockney, I'd become very, very aware of this frozen moment that was very unreal to me. 822 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:47,567 The photographs didn't really have life in the way a drawing or painting did. 823 01:10:47,567 --> 01:10:51,400 And I realized it couldn't because of what it is. 824 01:10:51,433 --> 01:10:54,867 Compared to Rembrandt looking at himself for hours and 825 01:10:54,867 --> 01:10:58,733 hours and scrutinizing his face and putting all these hours 826 01:10:58,767 --> 01:11:02,400 into the picture that you're going to look at, naturally, 827 01:11:02,433 --> 01:11:05,633 there's many more hours there than even you can give it. 828 01:11:05,633 --> 01:11:08,467 A photograph is the other way round. 829 01:11:08,467 --> 01:11:12,500 It's a fraction of a second, frozen. 830 01:11:12,567 --> 01:11:15,433 So the moment you've looked at it for even four seconds, 831 01:11:15,467 --> 01:11:18,800 you're looking at it for far more than the camera did. 832 01:11:18,833 --> 01:11:25,467 And I... it dawned on me that this was visible, actually. 833 01:11:25,467 --> 01:11:27,166 It is visible. 834 01:11:27,166 --> 01:11:32,333 And the more you become aware of it, the more this is a terrible weakness. 835 01:11:32,333 --> 01:11:35,467 Drawings and paintings do not have this. 836 01:11:36,967 --> 01:11:41,133 I made a little photographic experiment with the Polaroid 837 01:11:41,133 --> 01:11:44,067 by putting 30 of them together, 838 01:11:44,067 --> 01:11:48,133 made a photograph of this house in a way that I'd been 839 01:11:48,166 --> 01:11:52,166 trying to paint the house from three different viewpoints. 840 01:11:52,166 --> 01:11:55,133 And the photograph excited me so much. 841 01:11:55,133 --> 01:12:02,300 And... well, time was appearing in the picture 842 01:12:02,300 --> 01:12:07,933 and because of it, space, a bigger illusion of space. 843 01:12:07,967 --> 01:12:11,900 Now, the space is an illusion. I was aware of that. 844 01:12:11,900 --> 01:12:13,867 But the time is not an illusion. 845 01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:20,300 - It is real and accounted for in the number of pictures. - [Sprightly music] 846 01:12:20,300 --> 01:12:26,367 You know it took time to take them, wait for them, put them down and so on. 847 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,800 And this began... I realized was giving you 848 01:12:29,833 --> 01:12:33,067 this illusion of space that we had not seen... 849 01:12:33,067 --> 01:12:36,133 I had not seen in a photograph before. 850 01:12:36,166 --> 01:12:39,400 [Music continues] 851 01:13:07,233 --> 01:13:08,867 [Music concludes] 852 01:13:08,867 --> 01:13:12,867 [Hockney] I'm interested in pictures made any way 853 01:13:12,900 --> 01:13:17,433 and the visible world and representing it. 854 01:13:17,467 --> 01:13:20,300 That's why Picasso is always interesting. 855 01:13:20,300 --> 01:13:23,767 - [Thunder crashes] - He never left the visible world, 856 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,967 never left depiction, actually. 857 01:13:27,067 --> 01:13:29,367 [Stirring music] 858 01:13:45,900 --> 01:13:47,800 [Dog yelps] 859 01:13:55,800 --> 01:14:00,500 [John] His greatest hero for most of his life has been Pablo Picasso, 860 01:14:00,532 --> 01:14:02,267 whose art moves through 861 01:14:02,267 --> 01:14:08,500 phases and different approaches and styles with great frequency throughout a long life. 862 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,100 So David's aware of the fact that almost everything he does 863 01:14:22,133 --> 01:14:25,067 is going to sell the second he's put his name to it. 864 01:14:25,100 --> 01:14:29,800 And he does not want to become a machine for producing items of value. 865 01:14:29,833 --> 01:14:33,467 [Thunder crashes, music continues] 866 01:14:50,700 --> 01:14:55,700 He frequently ran into periods when he was 867 01:14:55,733 --> 01:14:58,800 dissatisfied with what he was 868 01:14:58,833 --> 01:15:03,633 doing and was thrashing about looking for new and different ways of doing it. 869 01:15:03,666 --> 01:15:10,567 He did not like just going on using his immense facility for drawing. 870 01:15:10,567 --> 01:15:12,833 Didn't satisfy his ambition. 871 01:15:12,867 --> 01:15:15,733 [Music continues] 872 01:15:24,067 --> 01:15:31,333 [Hockney] Surfaces that you can decide where to look I find fascinating, you know. 873 01:15:31,333 --> 01:15:33,900 In a way, with water, 874 01:15:33,933 --> 01:15:37,400 you can look at a reflection. 875 01:15:37,433 --> 01:15:38,900 Then you're looking at the surface. 876 01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:44,800 Or you can suddenly take the reflection away and look through it. 877 01:15:48,233 --> 01:15:56,133 And somehow the problem of depicting it becomes a wonderful way of, 878 01:15:56,133 --> 01:16:03,567 in your head, thinking of graphic terms and devices to depict it all. 879 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,600 [Music continues] 880 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:20,433 [Hockney] The early ones are done with very, very stylized form in the water. 881 01:16:20,467 --> 01:16:26,333 Jigsaw shapes with a heavy blue line describing the interlocking shapes, 882 01:16:26,333 --> 01:16:31,467 as though somebody's jumped in the pool and all the shapes are dancing. 883 01:16:36,233 --> 01:16:41,067 The painting called The Sunbather, the dancing line is yellow, which happens 884 01:16:41,067 --> 01:16:48,067 if it's very sunny and you get this dancing yellow line all the time. 885 01:16:54,367 --> 01:16:59,367 Later on, I could make the water look very fluid and wet 886 01:16:59,433 --> 01:17:03,967 by putting acrylic paint that was very, very diluted, 887 01:17:04,067 --> 01:17:06,633 and you put a detergent in it, 888 01:17:06,633 --> 01:17:12,200 so when you paint on the canvas, the canvas soaks it up like blotting paper. 889 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,633 [Music continues] 890 01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:23,133 [Hockney] Even the painting of the splash, for instance, 891 01:17:23,166 --> 01:17:25,800 somehow what I quite liked about 892 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:32,800 doing it was the perversity of painting something that lasts for one second. 893 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:38,467 But it took me seven days' work to paint the splash itself. 894 01:17:38,500 --> 01:17:43,500 If you look carefully, it's painted in single lines with a small brush. 895 01:17:43,532 --> 01:17:46,067 [Gloomy music] 896 01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:57,666 [Hockney] I like the idea, you see, of a realistic painting of a real figure looking 897 01:17:57,700 --> 01:18:03,700 at another figure, but the other figure is distorted naturally by the water. 898 01:18:03,733 --> 01:18:06,400 [Grand orchestral music] 899 01:18:31,967 --> 01:18:36,200 [Music concludes, cow moos in distance] 900 01:18:38,700 --> 01:18:40,367 [Cow moos] 901 01:18:44,467 --> 01:18:50,800 [Joseph] I was the technical director when the Met opened the French triple bill. 902 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,067 What we did was to take David's pieces... 903 01:18:54,067 --> 01:18:57,133 In the case of Parade, the ideas of someone who's 904 01:18:57,166 --> 01:19:01,233 basically not working all the time in the theater... 905 01:19:01,233 --> 01:19:06,800 And translate them to the stage, but add the things that you know that make it work. 906 01:19:08,233 --> 01:19:12,467 I think the challenges were, for him, just the scale of things. 907 01:19:12,500 --> 01:19:15,067 [Soft, twinkling music] 908 01:19:16,833 --> 01:19:21,200 [Hockney] This is a model of the Metropolitan Opera stage. 909 01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:26,833 And the story of the opera is about a naughty child. 910 01:19:26,833 --> 01:19:32,867 And the little boy says, "I'm fed up of being good. I want to be wicked." 911 01:19:32,933 --> 01:19:35,833 So he picks up a poker from the fireplace, 912 01:19:35,833 --> 01:19:40,867 he runs around the room, he smashes the teapot. 913 01:19:40,933 --> 01:19:43,433 [Powerful operatic singing] 914 01:19:49,833 --> 01:19:53,867 Very shortly after the Met reopened, there was Parade, in the 915 01:19:53,900 --> 01:19:58,333 winter-time when everyone is desperate for light and color. 916 01:19:58,367 --> 01:20:02,300 And here is something totally fresh, totally new, 917 01:20:02,333 --> 01:20:05,800 something unlike anyone had ever seen at the Met. 918 01:20:05,833 --> 01:20:08,000 And I think it just... 919 01:20:08,032 --> 01:20:13,032 It lifted people's spirits, and it kind of took them to a different place. 920 01:20:13,067 --> 01:20:18,367 And David was a major instrument in having that happen. 921 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,700 [Music continues] 922 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,733 [Powerful operatic singing] 923 01:20:35,067 --> 01:20:36,867 [Raymond] Henry and David in Europe... 924 01:20:36,867 --> 01:20:40,700 They would arrive in a European city and immediately go to 925 01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:44,867 - the opera house, look to see what was playing, get tickets. - [Music subsides] 926 01:20:44,867 --> 01:20:47,100 Then they'd go to the museum. 927 01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:50,666 Then they'd have lunch and they'd go back to the hotel. 928 01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:55,233 Henry would write. David would have his sketch pad and his colored pencils. 929 01:20:55,233 --> 01:20:56,800 Then they'd have a nap. 930 01:20:56,867 --> 01:21:00,267 Then they'd come out, have dinner, go to the opera house. 931 01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:03,967 [Tense orchestral music] 932 01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,233 [Dramatic orchestral music] 933 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:15,800 [Hockney] There's a lot of music. 934 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,100 There's often four minutes of music with nobody 935 01:21:19,133 --> 01:21:23,833 singing, which means you're to be looking at something. 936 01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:25,967 In fact, you're to be looking at something in an 937 01:21:26,067 --> 01:21:29,600 interesting way to hear that music, to really hear it. 938 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,233 So we'll figure a way, you know... 939 01:21:32,233 --> 01:21:35,567 Just slowly reveal the forest and so on. 940 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,100 I mean, just do it very slowly. 941 01:21:37,133 --> 01:21:41,633 Tristan and Isolde, I worked for a year in here on it. 942 01:21:41,633 --> 01:21:48,767 One year, actually, it took, matching the music and getting the colors and things. 943 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,500 It was a long, big job. 944 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,867 I used to sit up here with it, and I'd... 945 01:21:55,933 --> 01:22:01,700 We had a big model with lights, and I had all these 946 01:22:01,767 --> 01:22:07,600 little lights where I could change it and do things. 947 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:14,467 Sometimes I'd smoke a joint and then put on the music and fiddle with the lights. 948 01:22:14,500 --> 01:22:17,767 It was terrific, actually, that... doing it. 949 01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,300 [Music continues] 950 01:22:21,867 --> 01:22:29,400 And, I must confess, the other night I saw Tosca, and it suddenly occurred to me 951 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:36,233 that the only Puccini opera that doesn't have a lot of cruelty in it is Bohème. 952 01:22:36,233 --> 01:22:39,467 At least she dies from TB. 953 01:22:39,467 --> 01:22:46,800 This opera... not only does nobody die, it ends on the best note of hope 954 01:22:46,833 --> 01:22:50,633 I've ever come across on a musical stage, I think, 955 01:22:50,633 --> 01:22:54,433 that there is real hope for us wretched people. 956 01:22:54,500 --> 01:22:58,867 This is actually the drawing we're finally using to make the set 957 01:22:58,900 --> 01:23:02,666 for the Poulenc opera, which is a scene in the South of France. 958 01:23:02,700 --> 01:23:05,267 It's supposed to be jolly and pretty. 959 01:23:05,333 --> 01:23:09,200 [Joseph] Unlike some designers and unlike some artists, 960 01:23:09,233 --> 01:23:12,666 David was completely swept up with the music. 961 01:23:12,700 --> 01:23:19,666 To him, the music suggested visual things, and I think that was a big appeal. 962 01:23:19,666 --> 01:23:25,300 And one of the things that often is missing in theatrical productions 963 01:23:25,300 --> 01:23:28,900 is that kind of reverence for... for 964 01:23:28,933 --> 01:23:32,200 the work of art, but also a kind of willingness to 965 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:36,867 be completely one with its slightly sentimental side. 966 01:23:36,867 --> 01:23:38,867 And David loved that. 967 01:23:38,900 --> 01:23:41,567 [Percussive orchestral music] 968 01:24:07,166 --> 01:24:09,666 [Hockney] It's gone now for me... music. 969 01:24:09,733 --> 01:24:14,900 I don't go to the opera anymore because I can't really hear it. 970 01:24:14,933 --> 01:24:20,267 I mean, I'd have to sit right at the front or something. 971 01:24:20,300 --> 01:24:27,500 I mean, I don't go because if you go, I leave the theater a bit depressed. 972 01:24:27,532 --> 01:24:30,100 [Upbeat orchestral music] 973 01:25:03,700 --> 01:25:06,367 [Kenneth] Well, he's just coming off of the theater work, okay, 974 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,367 and he's fed up with that. 975 01:25:08,367 --> 01:25:13,400 He doesn't know what he wants to do next, and he is kind of loose at this moment. 976 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,233 And he's visiting friends, and he's having a good time in 977 01:25:16,300 --> 01:25:19,567 New York, and he comes over for dinner, okay, to see what I'm up about. 978 01:25:19,567 --> 01:25:24,532 And so I show him the great Ellsworth Kelly paper images. 979 01:25:24,567 --> 01:25:27,233 And he's absolutely thunderstruck. 980 01:25:27,233 --> 01:25:29,833 He's moved, really moved. 981 01:25:29,833 --> 01:25:33,433 And he also said, you know, "These, Ken, are fantastic. How are they made?" 982 01:25:33,433 --> 01:25:36,867 So I said, "Well, you know, stay for... you know, after dinner. 983 01:25:36,867 --> 01:25:38,500 Stay till tomorrow and I'll show you. 984 01:25:38,500 --> 01:25:41,333 We'll make up a couple of pieces of paper and I'll show you how it's done." 985 01:25:41,333 --> 01:25:45,532 - That's the turn-on, you know. "Oh, you'll show me? Okay." - [Jazz music] 986 01:25:45,567 --> 01:25:47,700 So we started to play. 987 01:25:47,733 --> 01:25:49,900 [Music continues] 988 01:25:58,100 --> 01:26:01,532 [Kenneth] At first he kvetched about, "Oh, I don't wanna do this. 989 01:26:01,532 --> 01:26:04,200 I have to make every one of these myself," you know. 990 01:26:04,233 --> 01:26:06,100 "They're not reproducible. 991 01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:10,067 I don't know whether I wanna do all these." 992 01:26:10,067 --> 01:26:14,200 But he did all these, and every time he did a new one, he wanted to make another one. 993 01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,600 And we wound up working 18 hours a day. 994 01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,567 I mean, it was slave labor for 49 days. 995 01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,100 All of us just loved it. We couldn't get enough of it. 996 01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:27,300 Because each and every piece he made was just one more note 997 01:26:27,300 --> 01:26:33,267 of greatness that he was putting down for us to hear, to see. 998 01:26:33,300 --> 01:26:38,767 And he knew that he was onto something as much as we did. 999 01:26:38,767 --> 01:26:40,933 [Music continues] 1000 01:26:49,067 --> 01:26:52,467 I think Paper Pools helped him tremendously in his painting. 1001 01:26:52,467 --> 01:26:54,767 Yeah, I really do. 1002 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,733 Because I think it freed him up. 1003 01:27:01,967 --> 01:27:05,300 I think it also gave him a different kind of idea about color, 1004 01:27:05,300 --> 01:27:08,333 how to use color more boldly. 1005 01:27:08,367 --> 01:27:10,367 [Music continues] 1006 01:27:45,833 --> 01:27:48,067 [Music fades] 1007 01:27:48,133 --> 01:27:50,300 [Indistinct chatter] 1008 01:27:50,333 --> 01:27:52,200 [Whistle] 1009 01:27:57,333 --> 01:28:00,767 Come on, Stanley. Come on. 1010 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,567 [Charlie] David loved having the dachshunds down there and walking on the beach. 1011 01:28:11,733 --> 01:28:16,500 But I think ultimately, David's house in Malibu, it wasn't very David. 1012 01:28:16,532 --> 01:28:19,233 I mean, it was very David in its kind of hominess, 1013 01:28:19,233 --> 01:28:22,733 but I don't think it ever became his home. 1014 01:28:22,733 --> 01:28:27,067 I mean, David's never been a weekend person, so I thought it was a bit strange. 1015 01:28:27,067 --> 01:28:31,567 And it was decorated very nicely and cozy. 1016 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:36,867 It was very funky and old-fashioned, unlike slick Malibu at the time. 1017 01:28:36,900 --> 01:28:42,067 But as anybody that's lived in LA knows, it's actually a long way to 1018 01:28:42,067 --> 01:28:46,200 go to go have lunch or to have a dinner or get in the car and drive. 1019 01:28:46,233 --> 01:28:48,633 [TV on] 1020 01:28:52,933 --> 01:28:54,700 [Charlie] It was a transitional time. 1021 01:28:54,700 --> 01:28:59,367 A lot of David's older friends were not there all the time. 1022 01:29:05,733 --> 01:29:12,633 [Raymond] It was a world in the 1970s where to be gay was to be beautiful and fashionable. 1023 01:29:12,633 --> 01:29:16,600 The whole world was right there in the palm of your hands. 1024 01:29:18,500 --> 01:29:22,333 When David came to New York, a lot of times he was here to party. 1025 01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,633 He would go to the baths. He would go out to the bars. 1026 01:29:25,666 --> 01:29:28,067 He was having a good time. 1027 01:29:31,067 --> 01:29:35,633 And then all of a sudden, AIDS came along, and suddenly things 1028 01:29:35,666 --> 01:29:39,600 went exactly in the opposite direction, and it was like a plague. 1029 01:29:48,933 --> 01:29:51,833 [Waves crash fiercely] 1030 01:29:55,133 --> 01:29:57,867 [Crashing waves subside] 1031 01:29:59,700 --> 01:30:04,367 [Raymond] One person after the next would come down with AIDS, 1032 01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,567 and it was quite simply a death sentence. 1033 01:30:07,633 --> 01:30:09,967 [Contemplative music] 1034 01:30:41,666 --> 01:30:47,166 - I think it was something that shook David to his core. - [Music subsides] 1035 01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:50,100 You think about them every day and then you stop it, 1036 01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:54,433 because there's too many, actually, uh... 1037 01:30:54,433 --> 01:31:01,333 It would rather drive you mad if you think about it. 1038 01:31:01,367 --> 01:31:05,467 And slowly you have to realize it's kind of part of... 1039 01:31:05,532 --> 01:31:09,767 It's become part of your life, this, uh... 1040 01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,067 Something you never, ever expected. 1041 01:31:19,967 --> 01:31:25,067 [Hockney] At the time, I couldn't write down all the people. 1042 01:31:28,300 --> 01:31:29,567 I mean... 1043 01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:33,733 ..it did change New York. 1044 01:31:33,733 --> 01:31:39,500 I think it's that that changed it more than anything else, because I... 1045 01:31:41,967 --> 01:31:44,267 When I think of all those people... 1046 01:31:44,300 --> 01:31:50,467 If they were still there in New York, New York would be different today. It would. 1047 01:31:52,300 --> 01:31:54,833 There would be Bohemia still. 1048 01:31:54,900 --> 01:32:01,100 And that's the world I arrived in, and that's the world I lived in, actually. 1049 01:32:04,333 --> 01:32:07,133 Two-thirds of the people that he was really close to 1050 01:32:07,166 --> 01:32:08,933 suddenly just weren't there anymore. 1051 01:32:08,967 --> 01:32:11,200 They just disappeared. 1052 01:32:11,267 --> 01:32:15,833 - And Henry... When Henry died, it really was the final blow. - [Solemn music] 1053 01:32:15,867 --> 01:32:20,867 Of course, Henry didn't die of anything to do with HIV or AIDS 1054 01:32:20,933 --> 01:32:24,933 but I think that was a terrible blow for David. 1055 01:32:28,467 --> 01:32:31,333 [Raymond] When Henry died, it affected David, 1056 01:32:31,333 --> 01:32:34,800 I think, particularly badly because I think he 1057 01:32:34,833 --> 01:32:40,166 realized he was never going to find another person who knew him as well as Henry did. 1058 01:32:41,700 --> 01:32:45,367 Truman Capote once said, "Love is never having to finish a sentence." 1059 01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:49,200 And what that means is you're so much on the same page with the other person, 1060 01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:53,067 you can begin a sentence, and they immediately know what you're going to say. 1061 01:32:53,067 --> 01:32:59,233 It's that kind of communication that Henry had with David and vice versa. 1062 01:32:59,300 --> 01:33:01,500 And when Henry died, that was something that David 1063 01:33:01,500 --> 01:33:04,333 never really discovered in anybody else again. 1064 01:33:07,532 --> 01:33:10,233 [Music concludes] 1065 01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,700 [Flames crackle; Jaunty orchestral music] 1066 01:33:30,367 --> 01:33:34,067 [Music continues, seagull caws] 1067 01:33:34,067 --> 01:33:37,867 [Colin] So I goes round to David's, you see, one morning, and he's 1068 01:33:37,867 --> 01:33:42,133 got this color TV set, and he says, "Would you like to see it? 1069 01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:43,900 Have you ever seen color TV?" 1070 01:33:43,933 --> 01:33:47,900 He switches it on, you see, and he gets the color, and he turns 1071 01:33:47,900 --> 01:33:51,933 the color up right full on as far as the knobs will go, you know. 1072 01:33:51,967 --> 01:33:54,867 And he goes, "Aye." And he looks like this and he says, "Aye." 1073 01:33:54,900 --> 01:34:00,067 - He says, "You can have it fauvist if you want," you know. - [He chuckles] 1074 01:34:00,067 --> 01:34:04,532 * Happy birthday, dear David 1075 01:34:04,532 --> 01:34:09,133 * Happy birthday to you. 1076 01:34:09,133 --> 01:34:12,467 [Cheering, applause] 1077 01:34:14,267 --> 01:34:18,067 [Soft jazz music, lively chatter] 1078 01:34:23,067 --> 01:34:25,767 [Charlie] There's a wonderful self-portrait he did on his birthday, 1079 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:27,600 where he literally took off his Brooks 1080 01:34:27,633 --> 01:34:30,833 Brothers red and white striped shirt and laid it on the copying machine 1081 01:34:30,900 --> 01:34:32,467 and printed it in red. 1082 01:34:32,467 --> 01:34:39,433 It's a wonderful... And then he drew his face and did the self-portrait. 1083 01:34:39,467 --> 01:34:44,166 He has such bravura because he has such amazing ability as a draftsman. 1084 01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,600 [Jaunty music] 1085 01:34:55,933 --> 01:34:59,267 [Charlie] When the plain paper fax came, where you could have individual 1086 01:34:59,267 --> 01:35:02,367 pieces of paper, David brought back that pattern he uses 1087 01:35:02,433 --> 01:35:05,633 all the time of doing pictures in grids, so that the small 1088 01:35:05,633 --> 01:35:08,500 piece of paper can suddenly become this enormous picture. 1089 01:35:08,532 --> 01:35:10,567 [Loud chatter] 1090 01:35:10,633 --> 01:35:12,867 [Woman] Oh, it's tennis. 1091 01:35:12,867 --> 01:35:15,567 There's two players, a net in the middle. 1092 01:35:15,633 --> 01:35:18,200 [Applause, cheering] 1093 01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:26,633 He even sent a big show, a whole show, to Brazil to the Biennale that he never went to. 1094 01:35:26,633 --> 01:35:31,200 He just gave the instructions of how to put it up, and it was put up. 1095 01:35:31,233 --> 01:35:37,633 I think he thought it was amusing that hand was coming back to this technology 1096 01:35:37,666 --> 01:35:44,700 that most people in business were using to communicate contracts and legal deals. 1097 01:35:44,733 --> 01:35:47,833 I think he's always looking for new tools. 1098 01:35:47,833 --> 01:35:53,233 He takes something that seems very common and every day. 1099 01:35:53,267 --> 01:36:00,233 And in 2009, David had already done, I think, about 200 of the iPhone drawings. 1100 01:36:00,267 --> 01:36:01,532 Most of them were flowers. 1101 01:36:01,532 --> 01:36:04,733 We all got them in New York when we woke up in the morning, so you'd 1102 01:36:04,767 --> 01:36:08,367 have this wonderful flower in the sunlight of his bedroom window. 1103 01:36:09,733 --> 01:36:11,733 Then the iPad came out, 1104 01:36:11,767 --> 01:36:16,067 and then the drawings got so even more amazing, but also you could do the 1105 01:36:16,067 --> 01:36:21,067 playback of the animation of the actual drawing, which was a huge new thing. 1106 01:36:21,067 --> 01:36:26,967 Even David had never been able to watch his own work as it was unfolding. 1107 01:36:27,067 --> 01:36:31,400 I think it was a real lens into David's creative process. 1108 01:36:31,433 --> 01:36:34,700 [Rain falls, wind howls softly] 1109 01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:45,733 [Man] Stanley. Good boy. Good boy. 1110 01:36:45,767 --> 01:36:47,567 He's a good boy. 1111 01:36:50,133 --> 01:36:52,967 [Gloomy music] 1112 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,166 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 1113 01:36:58,833 --> 01:37:00,967 [Music continues] 1114 01:37:17,867 --> 01:37:20,833 [Philip] I think that David wants us to think differently. 1115 01:37:20,833 --> 01:37:24,166 He wants us to see differently and think differently. 1116 01:37:24,166 --> 01:37:26,166 He makes you stand in the painting. 1117 01:37:26,166 --> 01:37:30,166 He makes you look up and left and right and down. 1118 01:37:30,166 --> 01:37:35,833 The experience becomes a different one from the traditional easel painting. 1119 01:37:35,833 --> 01:37:38,633 [Music continues] 1120 01:37:42,133 --> 01:37:45,067 [Charlie] David thought that the idea of a viewer 1121 01:37:45,067 --> 01:37:48,700 and the vanishing point was very anti-humanistic. 1122 01:37:48,733 --> 01:37:54,067 And the idea of you being the vanishing point and the world around you 1123 01:37:54,067 --> 01:37:59,166 opening up to you was almost a religious concept in David's mind, I think. 1124 01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,200 [Music continues] 1125 01:38:08,633 --> 01:38:13,333 [Hockney] I think there is possibly a great connection between 1126 01:38:13,367 --> 01:38:18,733 the way we depict space and the way we behave in it. 1127 01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:33,333 I've always thought perspective was a problem, so anything that is now helping to 1128 01:38:33,367 --> 01:38:38,500 change it, like this photograph I did on an iPhone, 1129 01:38:38,532 --> 01:38:41,700 I find quite exciting, actually. 1130 01:38:41,700 --> 01:38:43,666 [Music subsides] 1131 01:38:43,700 --> 01:38:48,767 This is... This seems to me to be widening perspectives. 1132 01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,800 It's a different perspective, wider. 1133 01:38:52,867 --> 01:38:57,967 Things are opening out, it seems to me. 1134 01:38:57,967 --> 01:39:01,867 It's better to go that way than that way, I think. 1135 01:39:01,900 --> 01:39:08,532 That way is better than doing that, I think. 1136 01:39:24,633 --> 01:39:28,433 [Charlie] He realized that there was a non photographic way of seeing the world, 1137 01:39:28,467 --> 01:39:30,467 which David really embraced. 1138 01:39:32,300 --> 01:39:35,267 Particularly because we don't see the world through one eye. 1139 01:39:35,300 --> 01:39:37,767 We see the world through two eyes spatially, 1140 01:39:37,767 --> 01:39:40,633 and I think that the spaces of California, the Grand Canyon... 1141 01:39:40,666 --> 01:39:42,067 All of those things excited him. 1142 01:39:42,100 --> 01:39:46,267 And he always thought the painting could express those things 1143 01:39:46,300 --> 01:39:48,333 in ways that photography couldn't. 1144 01:39:48,367 --> 01:39:50,300 [Insects chirr] 1145 01:39:50,333 --> 01:39:54,067 [Charlie] He always said one photograph is not good enough, 1146 01:39:54,067 --> 01:39:58,867 and that photo collages were an attempt to try to have a wider perspective. 1147 01:39:58,933 --> 01:40:01,267 [Train whistle blows in distance] 1148 01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:07,666 He kept saying, "Wider perspectives are needed now." 1149 01:40:23,166 --> 01:40:28,367 There are some good landscape photographs. 1150 01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,833 There are, but not that many. 1151 01:40:31,867 --> 01:40:37,166 Partly because, I mean, cameras see surfaces. 1152 01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,900 They don't see space. 1153 01:40:39,967 --> 01:40:43,500 But we see space. 1154 01:40:43,532 --> 01:40:48,666 I think the thrill in landscape is a spatial thrill, actually. 1155 01:40:48,700 --> 01:40:50,700 I think so. 1156 01:41:03,067 --> 01:41:06,333 [Deep, reverberant music] 1157 01:41:33,567 --> 01:41:35,767 [Music continues] 1158 01:41:49,133 --> 01:41:54,067 [Hockney] Nature is the endless infinity, isn't it? 1159 01:41:54,067 --> 01:41:56,500 You always go back to nature for things. 1160 01:41:56,567 --> 01:42:01,467 I mean, that's what I was doing in Yorkshire, yeah. 1161 01:42:01,500 --> 01:42:03,900 [Music continues] 1162 01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,433 [Jaunty music] 1163 01:42:13,433 --> 01:42:16,900 So now we've got an "I" that's been made into an "X." 1164 01:42:16,900 --> 01:42:18,400 I hate to think about it. 1165 01:42:18,433 --> 01:42:21,100 See that letter there... That "X"? 1166 01:42:21,100 --> 01:42:23,633 Barney ate the "X," so I had to make a new one. 1167 01:42:23,666 --> 01:42:25,467 [Man] So you had to make one from an "I." 1168 01:42:25,467 --> 01:42:29,833 And what about that missing "I"? That's totally confused me now. 1169 01:42:29,867 --> 01:42:31,867 I realize what's thrown me out. 1170 01:42:31,933 --> 01:42:34,367 - You never had too many I's. - [Man] It's lack of the "I." 1171 01:42:34,433 --> 01:42:38,133 - Yeah, in this game. - Sixty-five. That's "K." 1172 01:42:38,166 --> 01:42:40,500 - [Woman] "K." - [She laughs] 1173 01:42:40,532 --> 01:42:44,367 I don't believe it. And you've got 177? 1174 01:42:44,367 --> 01:42:45,833 - What? - And I'm 65? 1175 01:42:45,833 --> 01:42:47,867 - I'm 193. - You've not been watching. 1176 01:42:47,867 --> 01:42:51,900 And also, you see, Barney helping's not much help, really. 1177 01:42:51,967 --> 01:42:53,200 No, he's a bit thick. 1178 01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,300 He can't spell that good, really. 1179 01:42:55,333 --> 01:42:57,833 No, he can't spell at all. Would you like the timer? 1180 01:42:57,833 --> 01:43:01,067 - No, I would not, sir. Thank you. - [Music subsides] 1181 01:43:01,133 --> 01:43:03,700 [Deep laughter] 1182 01:43:03,733 --> 01:43:06,567 [Soft chimes resonate] 1183 01:43:10,967 --> 01:43:17,233 [Hockney] My mother was a very, very strong woman. 1184 01:43:17,233 --> 01:43:23,166 She could look at me with piercing eyes. 1185 01:43:25,166 --> 01:43:27,100 [Street noise] 1186 01:43:29,333 --> 01:43:31,100 [Man] Oh, there they are. 1187 01:43:33,267 --> 01:43:37,367 [Hockney] She died at 99. She lived most of the 20th century. 1188 01:43:37,367 --> 01:43:42,900 She was born in 1900 and died in 1999. 1189 01:43:44,733 --> 01:43:48,433 - [Woman] Are you feeling it? - [Man] No. 1190 01:43:48,500 --> 01:43:51,200 [Seagulls caw] 1191 01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,400 [Man] Great! The queen's on! 1192 01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:58,633 [Hockney] She had four of her children there when she died, so she was blessed, actually. 1193 01:43:58,633 --> 01:44:02,600 - [Man] Cheers. - Cheers. 1194 01:44:02,633 --> 01:44:09,867 [Hockney] I think her last act of will was waiting for John to come from Australia. 1195 01:44:09,867 --> 01:44:13,300 [Man] Just a little bit, please. That's enough. 1196 01:44:13,367 --> 01:44:15,133 Yes, thank you. 1197 01:44:15,133 --> 01:44:19,133 The last night I stayed up with her, 1198 01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:23,333 telling her John would be here in a few minutes. 1199 01:44:23,333 --> 01:44:26,467 And then she died two hours later. 1200 01:44:26,500 --> 01:44:31,833 But he was very pleased that he'd got there and she knew he'd got there. 1201 01:44:31,900 --> 01:44:34,500 [Stirring music] 1202 01:44:52,833 --> 01:44:58,600 [Hockney] I remember 1966, and I've just arrived back in Bradford, 1203 01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,532 and you can tell I've just come back from Hollywood. 1204 01:45:01,532 --> 01:45:06,833 And I put a cigarette in my mouth, and my father's trying to take it out of my hand. 1205 01:45:08,467 --> 01:45:11,633 And that's 50 years ago now. 1206 01:45:11,633 --> 01:45:15,267 And I'm just about to outlive him, I think, this year. 1207 01:45:15,300 --> 01:45:17,833 [Music continues] 1208 01:45:30,733 --> 01:45:37,333 [David] Back then, in the '50s, you've got to remember that a young painter was 40. 1209 01:45:37,333 --> 01:45:44,467 So if you were going to be a painter, it took a tremendous amount of commitment then, 1210 01:45:44,500 --> 01:45:50,500 that you had to face the fact that you'd probably be digging roads or working 1211 01:45:50,500 --> 01:45:56,433 in the mill or anything until you got old enough to be a young painter. 1212 01:45:56,500 --> 01:45:59,200 [Baby cries in distance] 1213 01:45:59,233 --> 01:46:01,833 [Birds chitter] 1214 01:46:01,833 --> 01:46:03,233 [Dog barks] 1215 01:46:03,233 --> 01:46:07,067 [David] In those days, there was a tremendous amount of aggression 1216 01:46:07,067 --> 01:46:10,833 going on, and I was involved with various gangs and things. 1217 01:46:10,833 --> 01:46:14,767 I was all in all sorts of fights, always was. 1218 01:46:14,767 --> 01:46:17,067 But Dave was much tougher than me. 1219 01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:20,100 He wasn't involved with fights and things. 1220 01:46:20,100 --> 01:46:25,532 But he'd go around with his bowler hat on and his moleskin trousers, 1221 01:46:25,532 --> 01:46:31,633 pushing a pram with an easel, canvas and paints. 1222 01:46:31,700 --> 01:46:37,067 And it takes a bit of strength to do that. 1223 01:46:37,067 --> 01:46:38,900 I couldn't have done that. 1224 01:46:40,467 --> 01:46:43,433 * "L" is for the way 1225 01:46:43,467 --> 01:46:46,300 * You look at me... 1226 01:46:46,367 --> 01:46:48,767 [David] When David left to go to America, 1227 01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:53,233 he just changed his pram for whatever else there was out there. 1228 01:46:53,267 --> 01:46:55,133 It was the same thing. 1229 01:46:55,166 --> 01:46:59,567 In a way, LA was another Bradford. 1230 01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:04,400 His whole outlook on things, in many ways, has stayed the same. 1231 01:47:04,433 --> 01:47:10,800 I mean, there were things that opened up for him, like the gay thing and all that. 1232 01:47:10,833 --> 01:47:14,233 I mean, that was a tremendous influence on him. 1233 01:47:14,267 --> 01:47:20,600 But, basically, he's still searching. 1234 01:47:20,633 --> 01:47:24,333 [Music - "L-O-V-E" by Nat King Cole] 1235 01:47:45,467 --> 01:47:48,500 * "L" is for the way 1236 01:47:48,532 --> 01:47:51,532 * You look at me 1237 01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:58,200 * "O" is for the only one I see 1238 01:47:58,233 --> 01:48:02,300 * "V" is very, very 1239 01:48:02,333 --> 01:48:04,733 * Extraordinary 1240 01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,733 * "E" is even more 1241 01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,666 * Than anyone that you adore can 1242 01:48:10,700 --> 01:48:16,867 * Love is all that I can give to you 1243 01:48:16,900 --> 01:48:23,532 * Love is more than just a game for two 1244 01:48:23,567 --> 01:48:26,567 * Two in love can make it 1245 01:48:26,633 --> 01:48:30,067 * Take my heart and please don't break it 1246 01:48:30,067 --> 01:48:36,567 * Love was made for me and you 1247 01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,933 * Love was made 1248 01:48:39,067 --> 01:48:42,433 * For me and you 1249 01:48:42,500 --> 01:48:48,433 - * Love was made for me and you. * - [Music fades] 1250 01:48:48,500 --> 01:48:51,600 [Upbeat, serene music] 1251 01:50:24,032 --> 01:50:26,633 [Music continues] 1252 01:50:49,833 --> 01:50:53,166 [Music concludes] 1253 01:50:59,166 --> 01:51:01,733 [Soft, stirring music] 1254 01:52:35,633 --> 01:52:37,767 [Music concludes] 1255 01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:40,666 [Diving board rattles, water splashes] 106991

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