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Do you know what this is,
Dominic?
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You don't know what it is?
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Does anybody know what it is?
- No.
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This is what's left
of my daughter.
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This -- This is the remains
of my daughter.
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She took her life.
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I took her home in the hospital,
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and she was just not much bigger
than this box.
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Most people make the mistake
of thinking
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that just because you're here in
life, you re committed to life.
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Nothing could be
farther from the truth.
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You're never gonna make the kind
of life that you want to live,
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unless you're willing to
completely commit
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to life itself,
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the same way that your soul
originally did
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when you came to this life
in the first place.
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Teal Swan is a Web-savvy
self-help guru
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with controversial ideas
and an unlimited reach
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to an audience
desperate for answers.
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What suicide is,
is pushing the "reset" button.
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It's not a good or bad decision
in and of itself.
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As I'm watching
Teal's YouTube videos,
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I get the feeling
that she truly gets something
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at a higher plane
than everyone else.
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Guess what?
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There is no future.
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We live in a universe
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where all that exists is,
in fact, the now.
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Teal's social media channels
are her church.
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And salvation is always
just one click away.
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I thought, "What does
this gorgeous woman know
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anything about
the truth of the universe?
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I have to click on this."
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Now, for the first time
in history,
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anyone with a message to share
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has a direct line
into our homes.
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They're taking advantage of
every new advent of technology
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in order to recruit people.
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But in this new age
of unfiltered access,
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what are the consequences?
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I actually,
interestingly enough,
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lost my first client to
suicide this last year.
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Interestingly enough,
it took her about two days
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before she was
reincarnated again.
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I first came across Teal Swan
one night.
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I was working on
my master's degree
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in mental health counseling.
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I just hopped on over
to YouTube,
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like I would do sometimes to
just check out random videos.
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And on the sidebar,
she was there.
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Hello, there, everyone.
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Our bodies are more
like ecosystems
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than they are like organisms.
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I was completely transfixed, honestly.
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Something about just
listening to her speak
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was kind of addictive, actually.
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Once you feel
as if you have reached
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a place of understanding
with your heart,
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take some time to
express gratitude.
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Teal Swan's message is
a mix of New Age healing,
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occult mysticism, and
non-religious spirituality...
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The way to purify your life
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is to realize
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that even though life
is complicated,
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it's actually very simple.
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...delivered in short
stream-of-consciousness sermons
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that promise to unlock
the secrets of health,
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joy, and freedom.
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You wanted to hear more.
You didn't want her to stop.
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You just wanted her
to keep talking.
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When I would look at my phone
and see a notification
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that said "Teal Swan" anything,
ooh, I had, like,
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a million billion,
you know, electrons
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bursting through my body.
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I was absolutely,
completely hooked.
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Learning how to activate
the third eye
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is the key to experiencing
higher, more multi-dimensional
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aspects of consciousness.
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I met Teal for the first time
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at this bookstore called
The Cosmic Spiral.
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She was wearing
this all-red, flowing outfit
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and had this long
reddish-brown hair.
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She seemed so poised
and so confident...
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...almost magnetic.
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She felt very powerful.
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We became
pretty much inseparable.
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The topic for today is:
what is the purpose of life?
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I'm going to start this lesson
by drawing a diagram.
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Now, here you are,
in your physical self.
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I saw what she was capable of
with her creativity.
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So, once she got started
on YouTube,
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she started to amass
this following.
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The Teal Tribe, as her devotees
will come to be known,
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is born in 2011,
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when Teal's YouTube channel
goes live.
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Her videos quickly
rack up millions of plays,
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turning casual viewers
into true believers overnight.
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Hello, everyone.
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Today, I'm going to teach you
basic energy healing 101.
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I could sweep the energy down,
out her arm.
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Teal was mainly just
talking about New Age theory.
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She would talk about things
like chakras and auras and --
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uh, and aliens.
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A self-labeled
spiritual catalyst,
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Teal claims her clairvoyant
powers come from a past life...
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on another planet.
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She had told me that she was
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a being that was
thousands of years old
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that had come from a planet
called Arcturus.
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She was here to usher in
this new age of humanity.
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I am non-physical energy
that is perfect--
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projected forth
into an Arcturian body.
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Before I even came down,
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there was
an entire panel of beings --
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Arcturian beings,
six-dimensional beings --
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who even chose the way
I would look in this life.
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In New Age circles,
Arcturians are believed to be
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multidimensional space travelers
come to rid planet Earth
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of the reptilian aliens
enslaving humanity.
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The intergalactic origin story
gives Teal mystical street cred,
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but her followers
are coming to her
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for something much more human:
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help to cope with the
overwhelming effects
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of emotional trauma.
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Most of my demographic,
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they're people
who have been failed
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by the mainstream
medical community,
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they are people who have been
failed by psychology,
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they are the people
who nobody has answers for.
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I grew up in
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the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-Day Saints,
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otherwise known as Mormonism.
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My thoughts and feelings
that were inappropriate
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were shoved down so deeply
to be pure for the Lord
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that I was just psycho.
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Like, I don't know
what else to say.
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Like, I had so much self-hatred.
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I was 27
when I tried to kill myself.
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I felt so much pain and anguish,
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I just didn't know
how to fix myself.
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And that's when
I found Teal Swan.
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If you are no longer in
resistance to where you are,
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which is lost,
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then you will begin to allow
yourself to be found.
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As I watched
Teal's YouTube videos,
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she sounded
like she had the answers,
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that she knew something
I didn't...
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and that she could help me.
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Pretty soon, you will find
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that you have gone
from lost to found.
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Have a good week.
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Teal is a guru
with magnetic appeal.
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She's also
a savvy businesswoman.
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Teal Swan is very gifted
at recognizing
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how to use
content and meta content
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to make sure that when
somebody is struggling,
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when they put something
in that Google search bar,
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it's likely to pull
a Teal Swan video
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or product
that's related to that.
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Hello, everyone.
In response to popular request,
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I'm going to do today's video
on obesity and weight gain.
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Honestly, most pet ownership
in the world today
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is, in fact, slavery.
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It's a trauma to be born
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in our mainstream
medical facilities today.
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Teal is selling her brand,
and she's very good at it.
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If you liked this video,
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be sure to share it, like it,
and also subscribe to my channel
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so you can see
more content like this.
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The truth is,
I am very good at content.
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What I create is content,
and I am a leader.
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The interesting story here
is not Teal Swan.
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It's the algorithms that are
driving people to Teal Swan.
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That's where the real story is.
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Like most YouTubers,
Teal Swan makes her money
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from advertisers
who pay per view.
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But staying ahead
of the competition
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in a crowded web of wellness
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means turning teachings
into clickbait.
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What is suicide?
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It's giving up completely
on life.
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So let yourself
physically give up on life
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by falling on the floor.
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And nothing sells better than
the secrets of life and death.
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When you re on the floor,
I want you to imagine dying.
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Now here's the thing,
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you've been loosely
and mostly subconsciously
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toying with the idea of suicide.
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Imagine every grisly detail.
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Imagine who is there,
how they will react.
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Become aware of the impact you
wanted to have on other people
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and why you want your suicide
to have that impact.
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When you tell vulnerable people
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who have nothing to live for
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that you have all the answers,
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that suicide is
a "reset" button,
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then people
will kill themselves.
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She knows this,
but she doesn't care.
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Death is always a choice.
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Within months
of starting out on YouTube,
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Teal Swan's self-help videos
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are connecting her with people
all over the world.
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I grew up in a large family.
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Among them is Yona Curtis.
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My parents were
Pentecostal Christians,
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and they were very involved
in the church.
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My parents believed pretty
heavily in demons...
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possessing people.
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My dad would perform exorcisms.
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They would command demons
of alcoholism
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or smoking or gambling
out of people.
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I suffered trauma
when I was four.
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Between four and five,
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I was molested by a guy
who used to...mow the lawn.
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After that,
I was pretty, um, reserved.
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By the time she is 18,
Yona Curtis is married.
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My ex-husband was an extreme
neo-Nazi white supremacist
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and was fully immersed
in the culture.
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During our whole relationship,
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he was extremely
physically violent.
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It was when he tried to attack
me in front of my son,
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who was, like,
four or five at the time,
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and I went home and
packed my bags and left.
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After the separation,
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I started to need
to find some answers,
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so I started investigating
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different avenues
of spiritual beliefs.
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And so I...
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ended up finding Teal online.
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Hello, there, everyone.
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Today I'm going to
bring back a golden oldie
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of spiritual practice.
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She was so confident,
and she was charismatic.
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It just seemed like...
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here was this, you know,
miracle of a person
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who knew everything.
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From then on,
I kind of dove in headfirst.
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In 2011, Yona volunteers
to manage
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the private
Teal Swan Facebook group,
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where Teal's followers openly
share their darkest thoughts.
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There was multiple comments
and posts a day
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from people who were suicidal,
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people who were suffering
from mental health issues,
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people who were
completely vulnerable
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and felt isolated and alone
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and wanting to be
part of a community.
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Suicide is an action
which is the byproduct
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of the feeling
of total powerlessness.
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The topic of suicide
is a common subject
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among the tribe.
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You cannot say
that suicide is wrong
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without also saying
that death is wrong.
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And discussing it is
part of Teal Swan's therapy
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for trauma victims.
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We shouldn't just assume
that living is always right.
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And there is no point,
from a universal perspective --
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there's no point really
being on this planet
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if we're going to be
dragging ourselves
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to be here all the time.
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The idea is to visualize death
and embrace it
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as a way to, paradoxically,
reconnect with life.
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The minute that you realize
what death is like,
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it makes a lot of other things
much worse than death.
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Teal says she developed
her alternative methods
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to overcome her own dark past.
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At the beginning
of our newscast,
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we introduced you to Teal Swan,
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a young girl
who grew up in Idaho
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and says she escaped the abuse.
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She had been a part of a cult
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from the time
she was very young.
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Teal Swan says she endured
13 years of abuse
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in the wilderness of Idaho.
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This man found her when she was
about eight or nine.
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He was a friend of her parents.
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Eventually, he began
abusing her ritualistically.
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He was a member
of a satanic cult.
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Life, according to Swan,
consisted of abuse,
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both physically and sexually,
and murder.
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It wasn't until a ritual
deep in the woods
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that she said she knew
she had to run.
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I didn't know what to believe, really.
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The things that she'd said about
the abuse that she endured,
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it didn't make sense to me,
because it was so outlandish,
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but at the same time,
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I didn't want to
disregard anything.
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She was a victim.
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The Internet wellness guru
now known as Teal Swan
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is a former model named
Mary Teal Bosworth,
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who grew up in 1980s Utah
at the epicenter
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of a moral hysteria
that's sweeping the nation.
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If there is ever --
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If there is ever
an appropriate case
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for the death penalty
in the state of Arkansas,
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you've got it in your hands
right now.
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It's called satanic panic,
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and it's got Teal Swan
in its grip.
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The only way to rid oneself
of carnal desires
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is to release them fully.
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When Sheriff Robert Harris
tracked a burglary suspect
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to remote North Kaufman County,
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he found this A-frame
containing an altar,
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walls covered with what seemd
to be satanic symbols.
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The suspect told the sheriff
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about robed worshippers
chanting in the night.
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The sheriff says it coincided
with nearby cattle mutilation.
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Fueled by the media,
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the satanic panic sweeps across
America in the 1980s.
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What is new is
that law enforcement
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is finally recognizing
the telltale signs
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that point to cult worship.
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This week, each of 20
Kaufman County deputies
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is attending an eight-hour
course on cults
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taught by Dallas County
Sergeant Harry Johnson.
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Johnson shows deputies
typical cult markings.
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The hysteria gives rise to
thousands of unverified reports
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of ritual sexual abuse allegedly
perpetrated by satanists,
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including the man who Teal Swan
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claims drew her
into a satanic cult
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and regularly abused her
as a child.
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After brief interviews
with those children --
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intake interviews --
it became obvious
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that these children knew
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much more than they
had initially said.
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At the heart
of the satanic panic
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is a fringe psychological theory
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with a dubious but vocal
champion, Barbara Snow.
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Barbara Snow was a therapist
who was seeing children
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and working with them,
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supposedly to resolve
their issues of abuse.
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And she would suggest
to these children
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that, you know, there was
some repressed memory,
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that they were so traumatized
they could not deal with,
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that they needed to face.
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The children were familiar
and were capable
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of drawing all types
of pentagrams and stars
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and satanic symbols and crosses.
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Young Teal Swan
is one of Snow's patients.
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During their sessions,
Teal allegedly uncovers
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repressed memories
of her time with the cult --
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memories that include a
revelation so shocking,
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she reports it to the police.
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How many children
did you watch him kill?
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I can remember --
well, him specifically,
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not the group -- five.
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So, you physically watched him
kill five?
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- Yeah.
- How many did the group --
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did you witness?
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Probably seven over the course
of my life, I think.
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Yeah.
- To my knowledge,
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there is not one
credible shred of evidence
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of sustained satanic
ritualistic abuse
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in the United States of America.
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This is what caused controversy
around Barbara Snow,
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is that she would manipulate
people to believe
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that things had happened to them
that never occurred.
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You can suggest things
to people,
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and they will mirror it
back to you.
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You can implant memories
in people
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of incredibly bizarre things
that never happened.
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Did you ever doubt that maybe
this is just some sort of...
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nightmare that you had
and you just relived it,
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or do you ever doubt
that this happened to you?
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- No.
- Ever?
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- No.
- When she made a police report,
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it was not followed up on,
because apparently
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the police felt that there was
no substance to it.
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And eventually,
authorities would find out
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that these claims were false.
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Whether Teal's memories
are real or imagined,
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Barbara Snow is the inspiration
for the rapid-fire
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repression therapy that she now
peddles to her tribe,
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both online and in person.
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This is sort of simulating what
I like to do when we're onstage
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in the city.
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I want you
to be thinking about
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how what she says
applies to you.
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The completion process is
Teal's own branded process,
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wherein she has designed a way
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for people to take
their childhood traumas
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and then resolve them
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in the space of an hour or two.
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It's trauma-healing work, essentially.
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I felt like, "I don't care what
body part I have to sell,
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I need to get to this training."
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What's the pain
of having to commit?
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I feel like I'm going to make
the wrong decision.
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And if you make
the wrong decision?
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It actually feels like -- like
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someone's dumping acid
on my body.
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There were maybe 15 people,
18 people
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that were being trained,
as well,
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and we're all in this very large
living room space.
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And at times there would be
a second chair next to her,
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which she called the "hot seat."
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So, for her to practice
on people,
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she would bring them
up into the hot seat.
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And I want you to affirm,
"I choose this."
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You had to really, like, say.
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If you were raped,
you had to say that.
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If you were abused
by an alcoholic parent,
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you had to say that.
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You really had to go to
those dark places.
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There was no question about it.
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Repressed memory technique
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is based on a false
theoretic assumption
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that people who are struggling
with depression or anxiety
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or are feeling out of sorts
or who have trust issues
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have those experiences because
they were abused as children,
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but their mind
is protecting them
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and repressing that memory.
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There's a good chance,
based on the research,
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that in the process of helping
them "uncover" this memory,
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you're going to create
a memory that's untrue,
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that's complete fantasy,
that's going to be traumatic.
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It, in fact, instead of reducing
trauma, creates trauma.
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- Okay?
- Yeah.
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Thanks.
- Thank you.
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Leslie Wangsgaard
was Teal's client.
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She had very severe
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mental health problems
and depression,
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and she would see her
for one-to-one sessions
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at Teal's home.
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Leslie's
completion process sessions
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continue for nearly two years.
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In them, she uncovers memories
of past abuse
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using
repressed memory techniques.
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And by May of 2012,
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Leslie is dead.
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I actually,
interestingly enough,
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lost my first client to suicide
this last year.
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John Wangsgaard,
Leslie's husband,
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discovered her --
her body, essentially.
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And this was a woman
who was absolutely miserable.
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I am talking, every moment
of her life was a nightmare.
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And so we had that very serious
sit-down talk,
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where we had to say, "Alright,
we're either committing
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or not committing to life."
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I think the first person
he called was Teal.
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He was screaming
and crying, saying,
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"She's gone. She's gone.
Leslie's dead.
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She's gone."
He was screaming.
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And what's interesting is, when
she asked herself that question,
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the answer was, "No, I'm done."
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Hello, everyone.
Welcome to podcast number 27.
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Today, we're going to be
talking about
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pulling ourselves
out of a negative spiral.
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Teal, what is a negative spiral?
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I think a negative spiral
is pretty self-explanatory.
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It's just when --
when it rains, it pours.
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I was at a period in my life
where I was lost.
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I was looking for answers.
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I was looking for guidance.
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I looked at different speakers online,
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and then I came across
this very interesting
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and mesmerizing young woman
called Teal.
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During orgasm,
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your awareness of your own
identity or your own ego,
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as they call it,
is dissolved.
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For this very reason,
sex, and orgasm specifically,
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has been used
in spiritual practice
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to attain enlightenment.
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By late 2013,
Teal Swan is at peak influence,
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with thousands of followers
driving views
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on her YouTube channel
and across social media.
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Her first workshop in London
had 450 people attending,
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which was massive.
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She just had this beauty
and presence about her.
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It was just incredible.
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It really -- I mean,
it was just --
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She was magnetic --
absolutely magnetic.
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That was when I realized...
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she's sort of seen as, like,
this deity-type figure,
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because it -- it was beyond
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just people
that wanted to see her work.
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They were looking to her
for the answer.
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They were looking to her
to cure them, to heal them.
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But she was almost like
a Jesus-like figure to them.
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Sarbdeep Swan
is so taken with Teal
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that the two are married
just four weeks after meeting.
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There was an energy between us.
It was there.
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I mean, it was undeniable.
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It was a union of spirit
and of convenience.
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It was a brilliant
marketing tool for her
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to have someone
with a British accent
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but also
with an Indian background.
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It legitimized her in the
New Age sort of community.
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Hello, I'm Sarbdeep Swan.
- And I'm Teal Swan.
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You're watching
"Tea Time with Teal."
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Your spot for raw,
spiritual conversation.
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And it was just bang,
it was there.
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When we worked together,
we were in sync.
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Today we're going to talk about
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the importance of
inner child work.
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Everything was very new
and very beautiful,
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and it seemed to be working.
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And...then very quickly,
the mask started to slip.
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Weeks after their wedding,
as Sarb is getting to know
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his new wife
and her online empire,
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he discovers
the chilling connection
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between Teal's
unconventional therapy
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and Leslie Wangsgaard's suicide.
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I was seeing this woman
named Leslie Wangsgaard.
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I was doing what I normally
do with people.
505
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,440
"Let's have awakening,
506
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,840
I'm going to give you
some strategies."
507
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,240
The more that people
open up to Teal Swan
508
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,480
through the completion process,
509
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,040
the more she is able
to manipulate them,
510
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,680
because she understands what
their vulnerabilities are,
511
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,520
where their weaknesses are.
512
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,760
Having recovered all that
information from these people,
513
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,480
she knows exactly
how to control them.
514
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,320
She was under the care of a
psychiatrist and a psychologist.
515
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,720
She was on medication.
516
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,600
She was suicidally depressive
and anxious.
517
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,520
I was helping her
with my own methodologies --
518
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,440
alternative methodologies for
how to approach these issues.
519
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,840
What I noticed very quickly is
that she wasn't applying them.
520
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,920
When Leslie hits a low point,
one weekend in May 2012,
521
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,960
she reaches out for a lifeline.
522
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,640
But Teal is on vacation
and unreachable.
523
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,080
It was this horrible scenario
for me,
524
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,840
where when I got back
into cellphone range,
525
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,600
there was a series of messages.
526
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,600
One of her is being in distress,
527
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,680
one of her husband saying
they really need to see me.
528
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,160
In the next one, her husband's
screaming hysterically, crying,
529
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,120
saying that Leslie
had killed herself.
530
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,720
I went into a crisis about it.
531
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,720
"Oh, is it my fault because my
phone was turned off?
532
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,400
I should have been there.
533
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,400
Why did she do it?
Why wasn't it working?"
534
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,960
Everything. I went into a
collapse for three days,
535
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,200
which is typical
of the first time
536
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,560
you ever lose a client, basically.
537
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,440
I was in a total collapse
about it and feeling guilty.
538
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,720
But some inside the tribe
report something different.
539
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,920
After Leslie's death,
the message didn't change.
540
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,680
She was still telling people
suicide was a reset button,
541
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,040
and now she had
a bigger audience.
542
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,720
During this time,
her fan base was growing,
543
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,200
her star currency
was increasing,
544
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,160
she was doing big workshops,
545
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,480
and something in me just went,
"Oh, [bleep]."
546
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,160
Something just clicked,
547
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,120
and I was like, "Oh, [bleep],
I think I made a mistake."
548
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,360
She is a tool that you can use
to understand reality,
549
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,360
and she teaches you
how to remember yourself.
550
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,760
There was only one way
where this is going.
551
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,360
You know, more danger,
more deaths, more suicides,
552
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,440
more damage to mentally
vulnerable people.
553
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,120
The amount of posts that where
people were expressing
554
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,920
that they were feeling suicidal...
555
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,040
just seemed to skyrocket.
556
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:06,080
It went from one person
probably two or three months,
557
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,760
which already
is excessively high,
558
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,560
to two or three posts a day
559
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,480
where people were expressing
560
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,480
that they were feeling
so desperate.
561
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,480
I really want to
commit suicide.
562
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,000
I think I want to
commit suicide.
563
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,800
I think, if you're honest
with yourself,
564
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,880
sometimes
when you live with somebody,
565
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,320
you don't always see
the things that you should.
566
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,840
I had no idea
what she was looking at
567
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,880
and what she was doing online.
568
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,680
In the winter of 2016,
569
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,920
Carrie and Michael Lazarz'
teenage daughter, McKenzie,
570
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,400
is one of the youngest of
Teal Swan's devoted followers.
571
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,160
McKenzie was full of life.
572
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,480
She just made your heart sing.
573
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,560
She was...
574
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,080
She was just a lovely kid.
575
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,640
Like most Tealers, McKenzie
discovers Teal's content
576
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,680
while searching YouTube
for self-help.
577
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,760
She's emotionally distraught
after a recent breakup
578
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,040
and plagued with
suicidal thoughts.
579
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,760
She had told me
that she was going to
580
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,640
go off and collect a check.
581
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,600
She stood in the doorway
for a long time,
582
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,600
and that was just the excuse.
583
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,680
When she was standing
in the doorway,
584
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,240
she was saying goodbye.
585
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,560
I didn't -- I didn't realize it.
586
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,360
She got in my car and...
587
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:16,880
drove to a commercial building,
588
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,960
called 911...
589
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,080
and told them
what she was going to do
590
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,280
and...went over and
lay on a patch of grass
591
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,760
and took her life.
592
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,920
McKenzie is the second
of Teal Swan's followers
593
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,760
to commit suicide
in the space of just four years.
594
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,240
We have to decide
595
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,600
whether we're
more committed to death
596
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,560
or more committed to life.
597
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,560
The reality is,
if we're apathetic,
598
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,440
we're actually committing
passive suicide.
599
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,280
The question is to what extent
did the people that died
600
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,080
that were involved
with Teal Swan
601
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,960
accept this belief system,
602
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,320
and did that prompt them
to kill themselves?
603
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,080
After McKenzie passed,
I went on a rampage,
604
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:21,040
an all-out quest to try
and connect the dots.
605
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,320
That's when I became and
made aware of the Teal Tribe.
606
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,120
Somebody had sent over the video
607
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,280
of Teal's prompting them
608
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,680
that if you don't like the life
that you're living now,
609
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,440
that there's a reset button
for a life somewhere else.
610
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,360
As the Lazarzes dig deeper,
they make a startling discovery
611
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,720
about McKenzie's
secret online life.
612
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,120
She messaged the group,
613
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,280
saying that she had
contemplated suicide.
614
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,760
Nobody was calling McKenzie
off the cliff
615
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,920
and saying, "Hey, I think
we should stop this."
616
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:09,240
It was more of an atmosphere
of, "Do it! Do it! Do it!"
617
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,240
As admins,
we were given zero support.
618
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,000
People who were suffering with
severe mental health issues
619
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,720
weren't encouraged
to see doctors.
620
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,760
They were just directed
back to her content.
621
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,080
If you just understood
what she was saying,
622
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:35,640
then you would get better.
623
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,880
I think Teal is
significantly responsible
624
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,520
for McKenzie's death.
625
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,160
Her opinions on suicide...
626
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,720
encouraged people
to commit suicide.
627
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,680
Inside Teal's inner circle,
628
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,320
the fallout is a wake-up call.
629
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,160
I believe I'd entered
into a relationship
630
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,600
with a cult leader.
631
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,880
And when I realized
what she actually was,
632
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,960
I decided to get out.
633
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,760
Sarbdeep files for divorce
634
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,280
after just six months
of marriage,
635
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,040
but Teal doesn't tolerate
dissent in the tribe.
636
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,840
So she tried to use all her
psychological on me.
637
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,920
She tried to control
the situation
638
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,400
by trying to convince me
that I had been abused.
639
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,920
I had never been abused.
640
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,920
It's a tactic she deploys
641
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,360
to any follower
trying to break away.
642
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,520
Teal talked a lot
about repressed memories.
643
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,720
And eventually, one day,
644
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,680
she's like,
"Okay, are you ready?
645
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,840
This is it. You re going to
finally know about your life."
646
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,200
And so she had me lay down
and just start saying
647
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,600
whatever came to my mind
about my childhood.
648
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,440
And I created
the most fanciful stories
649
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,080
of terror and murder and abuse,
that I was, like,
650
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:02,080
a serial killer
sent to kill her.
651
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,880
Like, she guided me
to uncover these memories
652
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,800
and then, like, kicked me out.
653
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,160
The fact that people
are saying
654
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,840
that it's me causing them
to commit suicide
655
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,400
or that I want that to happen
is completely outrageous.
656
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,720
And the last thing
she told me...
657
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,080
is that, "If I were you,
I would just go kill myself.
658
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:22,560
There's no help for you.
There's nothing anyone can do."
659
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,680
By 2017, a year after
McKenzie Lazarz' suicide,
660
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,080
Teal Swan is no longer
just an online guru.
661
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:59,560
She's also operating a real-life
wellness retreat in Costa Rica,
662
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,760
where programs cost
$5,000 a week,
663
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,800
and the mounting pressure from
law enforcement is a world away.
664
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,960
Teal is now under
a cease-and-desist order
665
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,040
from the state of Utah,
cited for
666
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,320
practicing mental health therapy
without a license.
667
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,280
I have always
been clear about this,
668
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,360
and I'll say it again now:
I am not a doctor.
669
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,800
I am not a licensed therapist.
670
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,560
I'm not a psychologist.
671
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:28,320
What I am is a spiritual leader.
672
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,080
What I am is a revolutionary
673
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:34,800
in the field
of personal development.
674
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,840
Then, in 2019,
an investigation by the BBC
675
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,480
and other news agencies
suggests Teal might be
676
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,000
leading some of her followers
to commit suicide.
677
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,320
The revelations spark
a public firestorm.
678
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,000
She's a liar, a deceiver.
679
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,840
She had a patient kill herself.
680
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,120
She's sharing information
about narcissist abusers,
681
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,320
but she is a narcissist abuser.
682
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,000
We can't let someone
tell everybody
683
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,120
that suicide is
a reasonable thing to do!
684
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,640
And she is simply trying
to make a buck.
685
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,920
There was all this
dysfunction going on,
686
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,120
and it was just --
it was just growing
687
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,400
louder and louder and louder
and louder.
688
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:31,720
In reaction, social media giant
Facebook deplatforms her group.
689
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,480
She realized very, very quickly
690
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,320
that she had to get hold
of this situation,
691
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,880
because it was about to get
out of her control,
692
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,120
and her career may go under.
693
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:48,280
For the first time, Teal Swan
is doing damage control.
694
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,920
To be crystal clear,
I'm against suicide.
695
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,600
When you're feeling depressed,
when you're feeling panicked,
696
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,520
when you're feeling powerless,
suicide is not the answer.
697
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,800
Teal Swan takes down much of
her controversial content.
698
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,640
Her YouTube channel is now
focused on anything but suicide.
699
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,360
It's best to eliminate
your dependence
700
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,360
on your physical vision
through these two eyes
701
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,360
when you're working to activate
your third eye.
702
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,040
A master communicator
who understands how to
703
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,880
exploit the algorithms
that spread her content,
704
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,240
Teal's wellness empire builds
back stronger than ever,
705
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,200
despite the blowback.
706
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,600
The reason I'm doing this video
707
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,000
is because there's a lot of
rumors about her.
708
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,080
For example, some people say,
like, she's a cult leader,
709
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,720
some people say
she's an absolute fraud.
710
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,760
And my opinion
is absolutely the opposite.
711
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,840
Her information
is so empowering.
712
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,480
By the spring of 2021,
713
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,640
Teal is back on tour, holding
completion therapy workshops
714
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,080
for her true believers.
715
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:07,840
She's just helped me
save my own life
716
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000
and so many other people
save their own lives.
717
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,720
Honestly,
I think she's so badass.
718
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,520
I just really --
I really love everything
719
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,680
that I've seen online,
all of her videos.
720
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,280
Teal Swan
has changed my life so much
721
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,880
that I don't think
I can put it in words.
722
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,240
I think I would have
killed myself by now
723
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,640
if it weren't for Teal Swan.
724
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,960
But for those left scarred
by Teal's message,
725
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,800
her resurgence is
something to be feared.
726
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,200
Life is precious.
727
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,480
Life is not something that comes
with a reset button,
728
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,600
where if you're not happy with
the way that things are today
729
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,400
that you can just hit it and
have a new tomorrow.
730
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,520
People like Teal,
she doesn't care about them.
731
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,080
They're just a resource. They're
a market. That's all they are.
732
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,880
And as soon as she's used them,
she'll move on to someone else.
733
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,640
Teal now has nearly
1 million subscribers
734
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,320
on her YouTube channel,
735
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,720
and her videos have been viewed
over 100 million times.
736
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,760
She was too into her fame,
the money, the power.
737
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,240
That was her focus,
738
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,680
and that was her goal,
no matter what.
739
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,840
What I want to do
is to introduce media.
740
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,440
And I feel like it's
a large majority of why
741
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,840
I even have a background
in modeling,
742
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,080
why I love the camera,
743
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:23,720
why, you know,
any of these things.
744
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,080
I want to introduce
this type of media
745
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:28,120
where when
people are watching it,
746
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,400
they're getting conscious.
747
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,480
Yet Teal's sights remain set
on expanding the tribe
748
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,520
and amplifying her message.
749
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,320
In the future,
as you watch me transition
750
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,480
out of this big social platform, basically,
751
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,280
where I'm trying to get myself
out and my messages out
752
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,400
to turn into a big entity,
basically, within the world,
753
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,880
what I want to do with that,
which is phase two,
754
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,400
which I'm most excited about,
755
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,320
is then create actual
lasting change.
756
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,000
With the amount of fame,
with the amount of money,
757
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,800
the amount of social pressure,
the amount of contacts
758
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,280
that I have,
what I want to do is
759
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,800
then take it and actually
institute major changes
760
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,320
to the society
that we're living in.
761
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,880
How could you
have people visualize...
762
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,320
their own suicide and death
763
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,200
and become okay with it...
764
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,640
without studying and learning
of the ramifications
765
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,120
of saying such things?
766
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,120
Anybody who's changing things
within society
767
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,400
is going to put you
in the position
768
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,000
to have to choose
which side you're on.
769
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,680
One thing that I would wish is
that people would stop
770
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,800
focusing so much on me and
start focusing on the content.
771
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,040
It's never her fault.
772
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,560
She acts as though
it's never her fault,
773
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,400
whatever happens
to somebody else.
774
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:48,360
Basically, people are there
to support and adore
775
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,040
and give money to her.
776
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,920
And then whatever happens to you
beyond that...
777
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,920
that's up to you to figure out.
778
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,160
Either the content
that I'm providing is good
779
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,520
and has value to you
or it doesn't.
780
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,880
If it's good, use it.
781
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,280
If you don't like it,
you have the power
782
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,520
to turn off your computer.
783
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:46,080
I think that if enough eyes
784
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:50,680
from enough people
who are mentally healthy
785
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,480
see what she's up to,
786
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,320
and see the things
that she's been saying,
787
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,680
her cancellation on social media
is inevitable.
788
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,960
I want you to ask yourself
what you're really afraid of.
789
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,080
What is it about Teal Swan
that scares you so much?
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