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(telephone ringing)

♪

Hey, sweetie.

I am sorry
to wake you up.

♪

Can you talk?

Can you talk, sweetie?

♪

I miss the life
I thought I had!

♪

My name is Dr. Viviane Winthrop.

I had a huge experience
that changed my life.

♪

How much does our DNA affect
our sense of belonging?

How much does the family,

or even the history,
the verbal history,

influence our lives?

And I know for a fact
that it really influenced

who I am.

♪

She just pretty much
spilled out her family story

on the phone right there,

and it was quite a lot
to take in, honestly, at first.

Frankly intimidating.

Every decision I have made,

every decision I didn't make,

was because of my last name,
Winthrop.

♪

My dad saw the Winthrops

as the politicians
and the lawmakers

that changed the world.

I felt the weight
of the Winthrops.

♪

(distant, echoing clangs)

I was the acting chief dentist
at one of the prisons,

and there was a call.

"We're eliminating
the chief position."

I have to leave this place,
and, you know, I was set.

I was set financially,
had a great job,

and I was devastated,

because I...
everything I was.

I was my job,
I was my title.

What are you doing here?

You are supposed to be home
doing your work.

No thank you,
you took me.

You kidnapped me!

♪

I wanted a family of my own,

but my career
put that on hold

and time just flew by.

♪

And I couldn't be
upset and angry about

my lack of understanding
of my own life.

I had to figure out
who I was,

'cause I was slipping away.

I needed to find myself.

I need to go home.

♪

So when I was
fourteen and a half,

it was time to get my dad
out of the snow

and to find a place
that was better for him.

I forgot who exactly gave him

the Arizona Highways magazines,

but my dad was just
religiously looking over

those magazines,

and there's just
so much in Arizona,

it's so beautiful,

and the pictures
out of that magazine

are just incredible.

♪

We packed up

and we had
a big moving van

and we arrived here,

and we're coming down
the canyon like we did

all those years ago.

♪

Hello, Mommy!
Hello! Hi, baby!

Oh, you haven't seen me
in a long time.

I said hi to the animals.

Stop that!

Stop, stop.
No, that's enough!

That's okay.

(dog growls)

I'll take him, I'll take him.
Mom, Mom, Mom.

He doesn't like that.

Hold on, Lucky, stop it.

I was just starting to give
him some of his dinner.

I'm afraid he won't eat nothing.

Are you too excited, huh?

You need to go to the groomer,
yes, yes!

(faint, indistinct chatter)

Oh, wow, it smells--
it smells incredible.

(water running)

(water boiling)

Now.

Okay, Mom, I'm gonna
get this opened.

(chimes tinkling)

My gosh, did you see that?

This is awful.

You should be ashamed.

It's not the way
I taught to you.

(chuckling)

I know. It was hell
putting it in there.

That's not possible.

(clattering)

(clank)

It's not as bad

once we get
the top stuff done.

Here, you can sit--
you can sit on this, Mom.

Here.

Here, have a--
have a seat, Mom.

No, it's easier if you just
tell me where to go

and organize.

This way, you can just
sit still and...

So, I am in the process
of selling my house,

nearly sold.

Should be selling
or closing next week.

I'll get it,
I'll get it.

(chatter, laughter)

I'm moving back to Sedona
so I can be close to Mom,

and moving in with her

so we can build
some amazing memories.

Chance to really start over.

Mom, Mom, let me--

get--bring the car.

(indistinct remark)

(door slams)

(engine starts)

Okay.

(laughing)

Name's André Metcalf.

I've known Dr. Viviane Winthrop
for 30 years.

She's known as Sweetie.

(chuckles)

We actually had met in school.

He opened the door
to the anatomy lab

and I thought
he was giving me a hug!

So he looked at me like,
"What is she doing?"

♪

When I met her,

she would talk about
being a Winthrop

more than being
anything else.

And I guess there was
I wouldn't say rules

but there was a bar

for things that a Winthrop did,

and you were supposed
to be certain things.

♪

She was very fun-loving,

very happy,
and very open.

But when we would go home,
go visit her parents,

it seemed like she would be
like a different person.

♪

I was born in Montreal.

♪

Looking back,

I had everything I needed.

My mom would teach piano.

She was our main breadwinner.

♪

My dad was
a Shakespearean actor.

In the first part
of the relationship,

he worked.

♪

My father, he broke
the Winthrop tradition.

He wasn't interested
in political life,

he didn't want
to be an attorney.

My dad had dreams
of being an actor.

(speaking French)

-I saw it all.
-Yeah?

Yeah, come on, I'll tell you
everything I have.

-Like you always do, Nicky?
-Oh, it'll be interesting.

Yeah, but will it be true?

His real dream, though,
was to go to Hollywood.

So he felt like
he never made it as an actor

because he didn't go
to Hollywood

and had the financial success
that goes with that.

♪

It felt like
it ruined his life,

but more than anything,
it just devastated him.

♪

My dad poured his heart
into me.

I didn't realize that.

♪

My dad would tell me
stories about our family.

He just molded me.

♪

You know, I've always been
a loner.

I've been an only child,
and so,

I always felt like
I was never quite good enough.

I would come home
with 100 percent,

and my mom
jokingly would say,

"Well, it's not 104 percent."

I was teaching her,

and if it was not perfect,

she had to do it again.

Maybe my fault about that.

I couldn't be me.

I just couldn't be me.

And I still feel
like a little girl.

And I still just want
to please my mom.

♪

Vivi?

By the way,
have you received my tape?

I'm waiting for your call

to tell me
that you have received it.

Hope you have, dear.
Love you.

♪

It's Daddy, of course,
who's waiting for Mother.

Well, there she is! Mother!

Maybe she'll talk
to you too.

Be nice, won't it?

À bientôt.

(he speaks French)

(Viviane chuckles)

He said, "With my personality
and your mother's looks,

you'll be okay,"
as I went off to dental school.

Well, darling, for the moment,
that's all I have to say.

I took my dad for granted.

I never had the courage
to listen to them.

What would it take to,

with honor, with love,

but to not--
to no longer

feel tortured about it?

Think I just need
to honor him,

and I need to, you know,
then put him to rest.

And, um...

Starting to bring closure
in your way.

I feel like I'm--

I think I'm actually
able to do it pretty soon.

♪

You know, if we can do
ninth or tenth in Geneva,

that would be, um, ideal.

♪

Every case is unique,
every family is unique.

Viviane's ancestry is
a perfect example of this,

where her Winthrop ancestry
is pretty well established.

Very famous family,

so there are books
that have been published,

there are online trees
all over the place

that are gonna kind of
give you an overview

of how this family
is connected

all the way back
to the immigrant John Winthrop

in the 1600s.

♪

When someone hires us
to research their ancestry,

we can go anywhere
from 20 hours

to thousands of hours.

As a genealogist
who needs to make

pedigree charts
and things like that,

there's sort of
that definition of family

based on what documents
are telling me,

what this birth record
is saying,

who this person's parent was.

♪

Twenty-nine years I've been
holding on to these--

the Tante Vicky journals.

♪

There's over
1200 pages of journals

about my dad growing up.

They spent most of their time
in the south of France

during the war.

There's so much
I didn't know about my dad

or my family.

♪

I see a lot of things in Vivi
which is Reg.

She's curious about,
to know more, to learn.

He teach her
how to express herself.

♪

(chuckling)

And I appreciate
what Reg did.

Of course, I sound
much more (French term)--

well, at least
for the serious stuff.

Oh, there'll be some
funny stuff in it too.

♪

Let's start with his birth
in Switzerland.

I picked up a lot of the
birth and death certificates

for your family.

Do you have an address
or something you can just

email me?

I'll send them an email.

Yeah; I can just send you
to link to the site

and you can pick up
everything from there.

My mom gave me
a stack of old wills,

and so, I just started
thumbing through them.

This could be a wealth
of information as well.

Uh, but I could use
more information,

if you have it,
before we head up.

-That would be ideal.
-Okay.

♪

It was very important.

I think it was
part of her background

and part of her upbringing.

♪

So, it was something
she had to investigate

and something that I think
was gonna be, uh,

life-changing for her.

♪

(faint birdsong)

(vehicle whooshing
along road)

This is so nice
to have people coming over

to look at their roots
and their heritage,

and to actually
get out there on the ground

and explore that history,

'cause so many people
don't actually make that leap

and come across
and put what they read

into a bit of exploration.

How far back can you trace
the Winthrop family?

Well, we can trace them back
to Adam Winthrop,

who married Joan or Jane Burt,

and we don't know
the year of the marriage,

but we are talking
about back into the 1400s

by this time, yes.

♪

John Winthrop was
also a lawyer

and worked with the Court
of Wards and Liveries in London.

Well off, well respected,
and powerful family

in terms of local power.

The family were well off.

They were clothiers
and merchants

living in the Groton
and Lavenham area.

♪

His father and his grandfather,
they were very well off.

They had land, an estate,

so he was born
into that social status.

But he didn't really
create it himself,

-he was born into it.
-No, no, he had it,

but of course,
it's his duty,

that's the Winthrop duty
to continue that status

and continue that
financial success.

♪

There's Groton Hall,

we're gonna walk up here
to the church.

♪

If you come from Suffolk
in England,

especially this area of Suffolk,

you know who
the Winthrops are,

because there's
lots of roads and streets

named after them.

♪

"This was the parish church
of John Winthrop,

1588 to 1649.

He led the immigration
to New England in 1630."

What's it like to come from
such a famous family, then?

It's incredible to see this,
it makes it real, you know?

That legacy has, as I said
before, always come down

all these generations

and is still as strong,
if not stronger, today.

Shows what a powerful impact
they had.

♪

-Oh my goodness.
-Beautiful, historic.

You notice the gravestones.

People make decisions
not realizing that it's

possibly going to have effects
on generations to come.

♪

It would be fair to say
this is the church

-of my ancestors.
-Definitely.

Oh, the smell is incredible!

A very church smell,
it's the wax on the wood.

What is significant is

a lot of the American
descendants

have come back
and donated to the church

and helped keep it going

in the memory
of the Winthrops.

(bell pealing)

It sounds a little bit
far-fetched, possibly,

but I'm a firm believer
that your genes can bring down

your inclination
to favor certain places

or feel at home there.

I think that's
very, very important

in understanding
your own self

when you're evolving
and maturing

is to understand your roots.

(bell pealing)

Meeting Celia was a place to,
like hold on to.

It's some part
of my identity

that I could say,
"This is mine."

Believed to have been planted
about 1550 by Adam Winthrop.

-With new buds.
-Laden with new buds,

new growth.

-New beginnings.
-Yes, new hope.

-Really meaningful.
-Yes.

What a gift
that you have given me.

It's nice to give that gift,

because it's something that
means a lot to you, obviously,

if it helps you find your roots
and your sense of belonging,

which is very important.

(birdsong)

Well, I--I'm back again.

It reads,
"Thank you, Vivi dear,

for your lovely letters.

There is a motel in Burwash,

if anyone visits England,

and quite near me.

My love to you all three,
your Tante Vicky."

Tante Vicky essentially
raised my dad.

Her duty was
to have my dad raised

in such an aristocratic life.

♪

My relationship with Reggie,

we were pals
and we were lovers.

♪

-Reg took that.
-Oh, is that you?

-Yeah.
-Ooh-la-la!

Couple of his friends.

He was taking the picture.

There's another one with him.

Super fashionable.

We spent a lot of time
on the beach.

It was lovely.

My dad was definitely
a ladies' man.

He was indeed.

He was what they call now
is a chick magnet.

Yes!

But you know, I have to say,
when he married my mom,

you know, he was, uh--
he was good.

Very loyal, I'm sure he was,
yeah.

That's where I first met
your mom.

Yes.

Wow!

It's so cool that you've known--

like, my mom and you
have stayed friends

-over the years, and...
-Yeah.

♪

And she stuck by him
through thick and thin.

I just admire her
tremendously for that.

Because she stuck
through with him

through the bad times,
the really bad times.

There were--there were many.

There aren't too many people
that would do that.

His mother and he used
to argue quite a bit.

(chuckles)

She was very critical of him.

But I think a lot of mothers
are like that.

(chuckles)

What is it they say?

"I can choose my friends
but not my family"?

(clock chiming)

♪

I like the feel
of the old English homes,

the bricks.

♪

It seems when you see a lot of
rock and buildings and bricks,

it just--it makes me feel
like there's a little stability.

♪

I needed to do
everything that my Dad

would tell me stories about--

the changing of the guard,
royalty.

You know, royalty was
really important to him.

He felt it was such
an important part of his life.

♪

My dad, he went to the London
Academy of Dramatic Art

and loved it.

He loved being an actor,

and he decided
to live his life.

You know,
to live your life,

to have the courage
to break the mold.

That's incredible.

♪

Gosh, I wish
he was on this trip.

♪

(tone ringing)

-Hello.
-Hi, how are you?

Thank you for--

-Fine, how are you?
-I'm good!

I just wanted to thank you.

Some of this drama school--

finding my dad's drama school
is huge.

Okay, but I hope you're
still going to Nice and stuff...

-Yes.
-...because this is

a very important part,

and I think Pau is going to be
really exciting for you.

It is, so the plan is--

and we'll contact
David Blackburn

after this call--

and so, we'll go to Nice
and Juan-les-Pins.

There's just a lot of these
open-ended questions

I'd love to be able
to put to rest.

Did you like him right away?

-Did it take a while?
-Nearly, mm-hm.

Yeah?

Well, he had such
a strong personality.

Yeah.

At that time, I was working
at the Bank of Montreal.

He asked me for dancing

and he laughed
with his deep voice,

"Ha-ha-ha,
I speak French too."

(chuckling)

So that's the way we met.

♪

When did you first meet
his mom, Simone?

When we got engaged.

How was she?

Very snobbish,

and for her, I was
(spitting noise).

But she had to accept me

because I was
the wife of her son.

The pressure
of the Winthrop family

must have been kind of heavy
on him, too.

Yeah, it was.

♪

You have to keep yourself...

♪

Surprise, surprise.

♪

At your university,
you were lonely.

You didn't make as many friends
down there.

Well, of course they were not
of your milieu,

and that happens, you know.

It did happen to me
in (indistinct) too,

although I had many friends
who were fishermen,

locksmith's son.

We think a different way.

Our values are different too.

But that's life, I guess.

♪

You know, I'd always wanted
to find out more

about the Winthrop family.

It was something
I just took for granted.

You know, am I the last
of the Winthrops?

'Cause that was something
that had always bothered me

my whole life.

My dad, what was
his expectations of me?

But it was interesting
because my mom had expectations

of what it meant to be
a Winthrop as well.

And we,
as a very dysfunctional family,

put on this huge air
like we're supposed to--

we're very fine.

We looked rich.

But the remaining trust

that my dad had
when he was a child

was getting emptier and emptier
by the minute

and he wasn't doing,
you know, really well.

He was drinking
and he was just depressed.

He was a Winthrop
and he's in a little town.

Life was complicated
with my dad.

(laughs)

♪

He had so much love to give.

He was just unhappy.

Would have been nice to have
a little bit more solidity

in terms of joy.

Hold on,
we could focus on him

or we could say,
"You know what?"

You and I have
been working together

for long enough that, yeah,

you can blame your father
for the beliefs you have

or you could say,
"You know what?

In any moment, I can choose
to believe in myself.

I have the tools," right?

So we could--we could spend time
talking about why your dad

believed what he did,
and all right,

or we can say,
"What would it take

for you to believe in yourself
at such a high level

you know you can manifest
anything you want?"

♪

When you read
the newspaper articles

on the society pages
from the New York Tribune

and the Chicago Tribune
and Daily News,

which were the American
newspapers here in Europe,

what you see are the Winthrops
are mixing in

at social functions
with all types of royalty.

In some cases, they're the only
people who aren't royal.

♪

Your great-grandparents would
have stayed right down here.

It's a very elegant house.

♪

I'm David Blackburn,
and I do research

into Americans who lived in Pau
in the 19th century.

(gasps)

This is spectacular.

It's a--it's a work in process.

The most interesting things

that I've found out
about the Winthrop family

is they were the people
that founded our country.

I would say
she should be honored

to be part of that family.

♪

♪

Imagine that people
would be announced.

(mimics pommel striking floor)

♪

Mr. and Mrs. Winthrop.

(laughs)

This is a fairytale.

The château and the artwork.

Oh my god, it's incredible.

And I'm also stepping foot

in a place that caused pain
for my family.

This castle
was where the count

had a love affair with
my great-grandfather's wife.

♪

This became something
that was in the newspapers.

Your great-grandfather
Neilson Winthrop,

he made accusations that
the youngest son, Bertram,

was not actually his son.

If somebody's adopted

or if somebody did have
an illegitimate child,

you know, they still
carried on the last name.

So how does that affect
the Winthrop line?

Any child who was acknowledged
by the father

is legally entitled
to carry the father's name.

♪

So since this is...

Gerald Winthrop, his father,
and Simone Dauphin,

looking--it was
a little bit shocking

to see that the--
they were married, I guess,

while she was already pregnant,

and then they left
for Switzerland.

I'm assuming then the the reason
they went to Switzerland

is possibly to avoid
some of the social stigma

that might have come.

Over the course of 26 years
of genealogical research,

one thing that I can tell you
without any doubt

is that it's France.

Every generation going back
to the 1500s, roughly,

has had the same sexual norms
as we have today,

which means even though
your great-grandmother

said, "No,
we weren't doing that,"

yes, they were.

And the number of illegitimate
child births, of course,

was much higher
in those days

because in the absence
of birth control.

But it's not
the Puritanical society

that you found in England
or even in the United States.

Almost every single family
in the tree,

you'd find
these skeletons and such.

♪

These families,
the Winthrops, for example,

they were kind of
celebrities, right,

because we didn't
have television,

there was no radio.

They sometimes wanted to have
privacy from the press.

♪

So they would have been
in this building

with President Grant.

And then just down here
on the left,

Mary Todd Lincoln
lived for four years.

♪

I think that a member
of the Winthrop family

at this time
would certainly be welcomed

into any club
or place of society.

(club strikes golf ball)

Look at that.

Aw!

Oh, that was close.

Pau built up
this infrastructure of sport

because of the fox hunting.

And because of the golf.

And because of the polo.

(hooves clopping)

And Pau became known as the hub
of the sporting world.

♪

Pau was the place to be
in the winter.

♪

The season focused on
fox hunting.

Neilson Winthrop was
the master of the Pau Hunt.

(gasps)

(dogs squealing)

Oh, they're beautiful.

And you've got,
I guess that it was said

-the future king of England.
-Edward VII, yes.

Had been invited here
and was hunting here.

There was Coco Chanel.

A fascinating history.

Mm-hm, mm-hm.

This is part
of the Vanderbilt family.

♪

Oh my goodness.

♪

When Neilson Winthrop
was in Pau,

he hunted with these people.

You know, these are the people
you see in history books.

And I'm like,
"I'm part of that."

♪

To be able to walk
where they walked

and for them to see
what we're seeing today...

♪

I actually felt like
a movie star, honestly.

I try to bring reality
to my own existence.

(chuckles)

But I started feeling probably
some of the first few moments

of my life
where I felt connected.

♪

(engine revs)

♪

This was real as well.

It was a real fairytale.

I think she's very lucky
to have in her chromosomes

ancestors that created
the United States.

Oh my goodness,
this is beautiful.

(laughing)

They really are so attached
to me being a Winthrop,

and I wish I had the money
to support the golf club

and the Pau Hunt club
and the Cercle Anglais.

Growing up, I never thought
of being a Winthrop.

I sort of was a Winthrop
by birth.

I understood the weight
of the lineage.

I never understood
the grace of it.

And so this was the first time
when I got to feel...

♪

...sort of the princess
on the--

on the beautiful horse.

♪

And it was magical.

And it was enlightening.

And it made me feel good.

I never in a million years...

♪

...expected to feel
so proud of them.

(chuckles)

♪

I got a message.

And it was somebody whose name
I didn't recognize.

♪

And she said, "I think
we're closely related.

And I think you're my sister."

Like, "What the hell?"

(laughs)

So I'm freaked out.

♪

"Hi, Liliane, I received your
message through Ancestry DNA.

It sounds like you said

that you have a half sister
named Viviane

that you've never met.

So why wait so long
to reach out?"

And then she says,
"I never knew you were Winthrop.

I've looked for you
for a very long time.

I just didn't know
where to start."

♪

You know, I'm saying this
really calmly,

but I just couldn't believe it.

And then she says,
"What is your mother's name?"

And I said,
"Sorry, I'd rather not say yet."

And then she goes, "Oh?"

And she said,
"The Viviane I know of

would be Armand's
biological daughter.

The mother would be Claire,
I think."

♪

Who's this person
who's not my dad?

And I couldn't wrap my head
around it.

♪

(sighs)

Oh, man.

So then I called my mom.

And I said, "Mom..."

And she answers and I just
went straight for it.

I said, you know, "Do you know
an Armand Perez?"

♪

Maybe another day
I would be able

to say something about that,
but not now.

♪

I met Viviane when I was 9,
10, maybe even 11 years old.

All I remember
is there was a glass door,

an entrance to--
whether it was a storefront

or whether it was an entrance
to a building.

Standing outside
was this woman,

and she had a baby stroller.

And my father said, pointing
to the baby in the stroller,

"This is your sister.

We couldn't name her Liliane
because you're Liliane,

so we named her Viviane."

♪

How long did it take me
to find Viviane?

49 years.

(laughs)

♪

Can you talk a little bit
about Armand Perez?

♪

When I found out,

I--I was embarrassed.

I felt shame.

Because my mom felt shame.

♪

Berty still has
a photograph of us,

the three of us
in his château.

♪

Hello.

How nice to see you.

(greetings)

I was born
in Château de Joli Bois

in June 1936.

This is amazing.

You're my like closest family
on my dad's side.

-Yes, I know, I know this.
-Yeah.

The family is becoming smaller
and smaller across the years,

you know?

♪

I'm the last remaining man
from the Winthrop family.

I think she looks a lot
like probably her father.

She has something here
in the face

that reminds of Simone.

(chuckles)

So, of course,
I had a lot of pictures

of this family living
in the South of France.

♪

And I will give you things
so that you can organize it.

That's the address book
of Lucette.

You know, it's the wife
of Harold Winthrop.

With all the socialite people
that she had on the French,

there is the princess, baron,

all sorts of people

that they were living with
at that time.

When Berty gave me
that address book

and there were princes
and other aristocrats

that were in that book...

♪

You know, I just felt torn.

♪

I have here the passport
of Harold Winthrop.

♪

Neilson Winthrop had
very, very beautiful things.

Very--well,
most are in museums right now.

(indistinct),

which are very well-known.

These are beautiful treasures.

-These are important pieces.
-Yeah.

I grew up
with the Winthrop furniture.

It was Louis XIV's furniture
and it was amazing.

And the pictures of the past,

that's the one thing I could
relate to was furniture

'cause we had that furniture

whom centuries of people
had sat on.

♪

I know Neilson Winthrop

was your grandfather,
of course,

was married,
at the first marriage,

with Louise Winthrop.

And when they divorced,

Bertram Winthrop
stayed with his mother

and the twin brothers,
Harold and Gerald,

stayed with their father.

And you were named
after Bertram and then--

And I was named
by Bertram Winthrop,

and Bertram Winthrop
was married,

but I believe
he had no children.

Hm.

That's why Reginald
had money from him.

♪

There was a question
at one time,

my aunt told me
that probably the bank was--

did not manage as well
as it should have.

At the end
of the Winthrop trust,

the money had become
very, very low.

At one time,
the Winthrop family

had to make a large selling
of its furniture.

The trust ended
and all the people

who were benefitting
of the trust

went to the last--last--

The last of the Winthrops.

I know, last of the Winthrops,
who was your father.

Yeah.

♪

It's a life I don't understand.

-Yeah.
-You know?

Life--a life I'd like
to understand.

(laughs)

Another--another period,
another life.

Yeah.

♪

I grew up being told,
you know,

"You are a Winthrop.

You need to be
socially responsible,

you need to help the world,

you need to do something
that's good for the world."

What kind of influence
did they have in your life?

It's difficult to say
because we were--

we were living in
very troubled time, you know.

(airplane engine humming)

The war started in 1939
when I was three years,

and from then on it was
a very difficult period.

♪

It was a very difficult time
for the French people,

especially for
the Jewish people,

because
the French prime minister,

he collaborated
with the Germans

to send a lot
of Jewish people

in concentration camps
in Germany.

♪

I remember, I have a picture
that remains to me.

My mother was on the terrace.

I was a small boy,
maybe four or five years.

I see my mother crying,
and I say,

"Why are you crying?"

And she tells me,
"Do you hear

the songs of the Germans
on the beach?"

Because the Germans had arrived
in the South of France

and they were bathing
and singing in German

on the beach,
and my mother was crying.

(gunfire)

♪

The German arrival,

I don't know how you say it
in English...

They took it over.

They took over
and they put us in the--

in a small house on the land
of the château.

But they lived there.

Made a commandateur
with offices and so on.

We managed to find solutions,

sometimes very costly solutions,
to find food.

You could find food
only on the black market,

and it was very expensive.

Mm, and that's in
Tante Vicky's journals.

♪

In her journals,
we see the war progress.

The invasion of the Italians
going right by their street.

This is just incredible.

♪

She's queueing
to get vegetables.

Sometimes she'll queue for
a while and then get nothing.

-Yeah, I know.
-Yeah.

It was a very difficult time.

♪

How was your mom
through that whole thing?

♪

Scary.

♪

And at that time,
things were bad

because my mother
fell in love with Ostrach

and my father
committed suicide.

♪

How did she explain it though?

Difficult for her.

It was--it was difficult
all her life,

because she didn't accept
that he committed suicide.

♪

Yeah, oh my gosh.

Because--yeah, yeah,
it was difficult for her.

They--they lived
a very difficult life

-at that time.
-Mm-hm. Yeah.

You know.

♪

When my dad was young,

the Italian soldiers
would send him on errands

and that's how he made
some money

so he could go to the movies.

♪

So he did the same thing
for the Germans,

but they ended up--

they sent him through this house
and they gassed him.

♪

How long were you married
until you found out

that he was sterile?

Cut.

♪

I know there are moments
where I felt guilty.

Yeah...

But I planned on telling him.

And then somehow
it didn't happen,

and that was at that moment

that I felt
really, really bad.

♪

(phone ringing)

♪

So what's going on?

So I didn't tell Berty.

Mom says I shouldn't tell him

'cause he's older
and he's not gonna have the...

♪

...you know,
he's gonna not take it well.

♪

But what do you think
about telling or not telling?

Like, you know, he--

What do you mean
if it's not gonna help him?

(sniffles)

Well, he'll find out
when he sees the movie

and then he'll be
really upset, like,

"Why didn't you tell me?"

My dad always told me,
"Tell the truth."

When she found out
about having siblings,

I saw how it affected her.

And at that point,

it seemed like
it was causing problems

between her and her mother.

♪

Mom and I talked
for a little while.

We just ended up
texting each other.

She's like--she's like,
"Well, do what you want."

But it hurts her.

♪

'Cause it's hard even for me,

I feel embarrassed.

Like, I have to tell Berty,
like,

"Hey, I'm not genetically
a Winthrop."

Because I thought
I was one my whole life.

Does it make a difference,
you know?

To people it does.

♪

I still feel like Winthrop.

I don't know
what my dad would say.

When I keep thinking about this
whole Winthrop thing,

I keep missing my dad and
it just stops me in my tracks.

♪

My mom's had 50 years
of feeling bad,

and I'm tired of feeling angry
about the whole situation.

I just want to find some peace
and some inner peace.

♪

I find that she goes through
a lot of emotional stuff

before she gets down
to the point

of where she's having
a problem.

She's Viviane.

It's too hard to put on
those airs all the time.

Too many expectations.

Most of them unachievable.

And just being who she was
would be better than anything.

That's really what I was trying
to get out of her,

'cause that's the best person
she could be.

Probably the easiest person
she could be.

♪

It eats at me, I cannot live
what she's asking me to live.

♪

I just can't.

♪

♪

♪

♪

Since his experience as a kid,

Reg told me memories,

and they were not fun
to go through.

♪

As a child,
when he was in school,

during the occupation
of the Germans,

they forced all the kids
to bring down their pants

to check
if they were circumcised,

"circoncis" in French.

And Reggie said
he never saw them again.

The Germans took them,

and never heard,
never saw them.

♪

My dad went
through most of his life

feeling abandoned by his mother

because after his dad
passed away,

she sent him here to Switzerland
to the boarding school.

In his life, he felt he had lost
not only his father,

but he felt he also lost
his mother.

He had such abandonment issues,

and I just always felt
for my dad so much,

and, you know,
would like to at least have

an understanding,
and my own understanding,

as to why perhaps
she had sent him away.

I can say this:

You have to remember
that at this level of society,

boarding school
was an accepted must

for every young gentleman

or young person who was going
to become a gentleman,

because it was
at boarding school

that characters are formed
and relationships are formed

that last a lifetime.

I'm reasonably certain
that she felt

that this was expected of her,
it was expected of him,

and perhaps one of the reasons
I can throw out there

speculatively
that he never understood that

was because he never got
to enjoy the wealth

of the life
of being a Winthrop

like the other generations
before him did.

♪

Okay, well, all I found today

is this tomb

which is conceded to your family
in perpetuity.

I doubt anybody's visited
these graves

since the last burial,
which I think was in 1974.

Wow.

Oh my goodness,

what a beautiful,
beautiful resting place.

(sighs)

Gosh, my dad never got to see
where his mom was buried.

(sighs)

I hope you are all at peace,

every one of you.

♪

I love you, you know.

Of course you do.

♪

Especially in all
these stressful moments,

we think very much about you.

♪

I remember sitting,
looking at them,

reading books.

He was reading books for her.

And if he was talking,

and if your back was touching
the back of the sofa,

you can feel the vibration
of his voice.

♪

I remember

when you used to go out,

and Mother made costume for you.

I think I even made you up
one night.

I remember that, certainly.

In any relationship,
in any couple,

there's always good and bad.

♪

He was very sick.

I was a rock for him.

♪

Stability.

And was always
a little difficult.

Did quite a lot of drinking.

Ah, I must forget those...

bad days, I suppose.

♪

♪

I was not happy...

♪

♪

The old days, (unintelligible)
never say something

because the (unintelligible)
is not what it is today.

And Canada was still
very under the influence

of the church.

To live into a small village,
my father was the mayor,

my father was a priorité,

and to heard about.

You know,
because in a small village,

everybody knows the story
of everybody.

♪

My parents knew, and Reg knew,

and they were supporting me,

and my family supported me
and helped me.

♪

When Reg passed away...

♪

We had many secrets together,

but when he passed away...

♪

...for many months,

I'd go on the balcony

and I had big discussions
with him, mentally...

♪

...trying to explain
circumstances...

♪

...and which was more easy
this way to communicate...

♪

...and express my sorry.

♪

Would've been easier
if she just told me,

you know?

I only felt that my mom
had resented me

for things
I never really understood.

I never felt good enough.

As I grew up, I never felt like
a good enough Winthrop either.

I didn't accomplish anything
that was Winthrop worthy.

♪

Here, my dad raised me
and didn't say anything.

Did he know? Did he not know?

♪

And Mom said he knew,

so...they kept this secret.

They kept my story from me.

♪

All the trust I had was broken.

I was just a mess.

I had lost my dad
all over again.

♪

Here I am on this journey

trying to figure out
how I really feel.

♪

You see, there's always
a purpose in life.

♪

Oh my gosh!

No wonder he was happy here.

Probably in his three-piece suit
or just really elegant

and his beautifully--

you know, his shoes
would've been polished.

This is how I want
to remember my dad.

♪

I'm so happy for your trip.

I love you, dear.

I'm very proud of you.

I love you.

I love you too.

♪

Well, my darling,
it's now quarter to eight,

and Mother said you were able
to get through to her

from a telephone box
in the street.

I'm just dying
to hear from you.

Of course, I'm dying
to see you first

and get it firsthand from you.

It will be quite an experience
to share together.

♪

My whole identity,

like every decision
I ever made

was based on being
a Winthrop.

You've done well
to come to England

to do, like, the research,

and I know for you,

it must be tough
and heartbreaking

to know what you've come from...

And then to find out

my--it turns out
my biological father

was an illusionist.

She fell for the illusion.

I found--my sister found me.

I didn't think I had a sister.

-Wow.
-I'm like, "What?

What do you mean,
you think you're my sister?"

"Are you sure?"
Yeah, yeah.

You're some crazy lady, yeah.

-Yeah.
-Most of your life,

when you thought you was
just the only child,

it's just worked out now
you have a big extended family.

Yeah, you've had a lot
to take in.

Come and give me a big hug,
come on.

-Okay.
-Come on.

♪

You'll be fine, seriously.

You'll be fine, all right?

♪

Liliane said,
"I would have much rather spoken

to you about it in person,

however it was meant to
be this way.

Please stay in touch with me.

I would fly out
to meet you sometime

if and when you would be ready.

Or you can come here,
or we can meet somewhere.

Please, please don't stay away."

♪

She was still in so much shock
on her own,

and I think that was
the whole thing.

She was like, "So, you wanna
change your name to Perez?"

I said, "No, I'm still,
you know, who I am,

but I have more,
I have sisters.

You should be happy for me."

(sighs)

♪

It's so confusing.

♪

But she's still just going

through her own trials
and tribulations.

♪

He would've been fine
with it, Mom.

♪

-Hmm?
-He would've been fine with it.

He might've been pissed off
for like a week or two.

Never.

He knew from the beginning,

but he'd never say so.

And you just didn't want to...

you didn't want to say?

Okay, the time is short
for getting the dinner

and you have to leave,
and packing and everything,

-and you need to listen--
-Mom, it's only 11.

-You need to listen--huh?
-It's only 11.

We have three hours.

By the time you pack up
and everything and leave...

You are changing, Viviane.

Right, I mean, you're not--

you're not even the person
you thought you were.

You weren't even right
on your name, girl.

(Viviane laughing)

♪

I totally understand, Viviane,

and I also remember

where you were with worrying.

♪

-Things have been different.
-Mm-hmm.

I think--I guess I've been
sort of holding onto this,

and even though there are
some really great things

about, you know,
having brothers and sisters,

the--the loss is still something

I have to be careful
not to look at

because then
it really gets me down.

I'm really scared,

and my fear is just,

that's what I really need
some help with,

'cause I'm scared.

It's new and it's different
and, you know,

they may not like me,
all that stuff.

Let's write
all these things down.

These are all your fears.

So you said,
"I'm afraid they won't like me."

So this is one of the worries,
"They won't like me."

Okay, what else?

♪

(sighs)

Oh, man.

♪

(chatter)

♪

(excited exclamations)

Sorry...

(laughing)

Very funny that
she had always wanted to have

brothers and sisters,
and when she found out

she had sisters,
she was just ecstatic.

She was just jumping around,
always just,

"I have sisters,
I have sisters!"

♪

(laughing)

♪

Forty-nine years!

-Forty-nine years!
-We found our sister!

And I said, "Well, you know,

you have lots
of brothers and sisters."

(laughing)

I'm Andrew Perez,

Viviane's brother.

♪

I'm Danny Perez,
Viviane's brother.

♪

Jacques Perez,
Viviane's brother.

♪

Liliane, Viviane,

come and do the lighting
of the candle.

♪

(praying in Hebrew)

♪

We're from Morocco,
my parents are from Morocco,

I'm from Morocco,
and Jacques is from Morocco.

We were born in Morocco.

♪

We were raised as Moroccan Jews

in Montreal.

(singing in Hebrew)

♪

My father was...

my idol growing up.

I loved him with all my heart,

and so, to me,
he could do no wrong,

and I--there was nothing
that he did wrong in my eyes.

(singing in Hebrew)

♪

(speaking Hebrew)

♪

He would do his magic tricks
all the time for the kids.

He loved doing his magic tricks.

To begin, my dad
was a hypnotist,

hypnotist magician.

Illusionist, actually.

He didn't like when
we called him "hypnotist."

He was an illusionist.

He would hypnotize
a whole audience,

which was amazing
when you would watch this.

♪

He was a very good-looking man.

(laughing)

He was,
he was a very good-looking,

very attractive man.

He was just, you know,
he was Dad.

♪

She's always doing something.

She's always busy
doing something,

and that was a trait also
of my father's.

He was always doing something.

He was not one to sit,

and Viviane is not one to sit.

♪

My mother and my father
divorced.

I was 13,
but even after they divorced,

they were still very close.

My mom and dad
were always close,

to the day my mom died.

(laughter)

He married three times.

The fact that we're--

we don't all have
the same mother

is irrelevant.

They are my brothers.

(laughter)

They are my sisters.

I don't see anything different
with Viviane

than with the rest
of the family.

Seriously.

♪

I wish for Viviane...

I just wish
that she would accept...

that we're a family,

and that's all there is to it,
you know?

Maybe she doesn't know
the definition of family

the way you know
the definition of family.

Actually, I never thought
of it that way.

One, two, three.

One, two...

-Empty it.
-Empty it.

Okay.

♪

(praying in Hebrew)

-Amen.
-Amen.

She doesn't understand
your love yet.

I think she needs
to find peace

in her own world first,

and then she can learn
to love differently.

She wasn't raised the same,

so she's not going to love
the same.

♪

Right now she needs to learn
to love Viviane

and accept Viviane.

♪

I heard about Viviane
a long time ago.

When I heard she was coming in

and we were gonna meet,

it was, uh, a little bit...

nerve-racking.

I wasn't sure who she was,

where she comes from,
what she does.

I wish we had met
each other before.

What else can I say?

I'm blessed.

Thank you. Amen.

Viviane, to the rest
of our life.

-Okay.
-Viviane wants to say something.

Okay, I'm gonna stand up 'cause
I feel kind of shy, actually.

Don't be shy.

I'm shy.
Okay, I think I'll sit down.

Why are you shy?
You're our sister.

You're our sister,
what's wrong?

It's almost like Viviane's
always been part of the family.

We love one another,
we care for one another,

and it's just a normal thing,
it's just normal family.

-Okay, move out of the way.
-You're our sister.

There's no shyness
between brothers and sisters,

nieces and nephews, sweetheart.

-Okay.
-You are our family.

We are a family.

Okay, I have to hold hands.

Okay.

I am so grateful
to every single one of you

for being here and sharing,

and I feel...

Okay, I gotta make this through.

It's an incredible feeling
from being alone

to having family,
but now I have family.

-Oh.
-Cute.

♪

I just feel like I belong.

-Bless you.
-Amen.

(cheering)

♪

"This is my letter to myself.

You're not alone.

That's the story of your past,
but it's not your story now.

I love you..."

(sighs)

"...and you can breathe deeply

because you're also appreciated
and cared for.

You're able and capable
of loving and being loved.

And in all that you are
and all that I am."

Kind of cool,
I actually see my mom in me.

I never really looked at myself
long enough to see my mom.

(sniffles)

♪

My new story
is that I accept myself

and I can and choose
to be happy.

♪

I know it's been hard for you,

but I'm really happy.

Good, I'm glad to hear.

Thank you for opening up your
heart and sharing everything.

♪

Well, you know,
I was, uh, sad,

and, um, and this somebody,
we went to bed,

and when we went to bed,
we make a little girl

called Viviane.

(laughing)

It doesn't make any difference,
you know.

That's all, that's it.

Just the things of life,
you know,

sometime things happen,

but nobody except ourselves
have to know about that.

You know, it's...

I mean, nobody in the family
said anything?

Nobody said anything?

♪

I can't even imagine
how you felt.

There's so much that goes
into each individual,

each family.

Cousins, friends, neighbors.

Family is who you love
and who loves you.

-Yeah.
-I guess, yeah,

okay, you went through trauma
finding out about that

how you did, but you've come out
through the other side stronger,

twice the woman,

and 'cause you've got
two fantastic families,

and, wow.

So it just shows,

it's this nature and nurture
thing, isn't it,

and, um, both are
just as important.

♪

So, darling, until, uh,

my next, uh, émission with you,

this is Reg Winthrop

signing off until next time.

Love you, dear.

♪

(reciting poem in French)

♪

♪