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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,320 [projector whirring] 2 00:00:03,399 --> 00:00:04,479 [typewriter bell dings] 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,279 [typewriter tapping] 4 00:00:08,359 --> 00:00:09,559 [upbeat piano music] 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:15,520 - 1939 was Hollywood's most important year. 6 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:19,399 - Hollywood in 1939 was when the studios ran rampant. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,400 - They were factories. 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,960 They were just humming. 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,400 - There was "Gone with the Wind," "Stagecoach," "Wuthering Heights," 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,240 and of course, "The Wizard of Oz." 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,520 1939 was the greatest year in Hollywood history. 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,200 - In this episode, we go behind the scenes 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,480 to reveal an illicit love affair. 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,920 - Larry and Vivien had to keep their affair a secret, 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,240 because if it had got out, it would have been an absolute scandal 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,560 - They were in each other's arms between every take 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,160 making love. 18 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,400 Larry was absolutely exhausted by her demands. 19 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,039 She was a very demanding lady. 20 00:00:51,119 --> 00:00:54,439 - And uncover an uncomfortable truth 21 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,120 about golden-age Hollywood's most successful film. 22 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,680 - "Gone with the Wind" is a race problem. 23 00:01:00,759 --> 00:01:02,279 It's bullshit. 24 00:01:02,359 --> 00:01:04,319 - There were toilets for the white actors 25 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,000 and toilets for the Black actors. 26 00:01:06,079 --> 00:01:08,919 So segregation lived on that set. 27 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,920 - In the words of the stars, and those who knew them best. 28 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,120 - John Ford was very difficult. He could be very tough 29 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:15,760 on you, thinking back on it. 30 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,840 I was scared shitless. 31 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,160 - They would be saying in Navajo, 32 00:01:19,239 --> 00:01:21,159 you know, this movie really sucks. 33 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:22,559 John Ford is an asshole. 34 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,360 [laughs] 35 00:01:24,599 --> 00:01:29,479 - On the eve of World War II, delving into one of Hollywood's darkest secre 36 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,080 - They were still trying to make movies 37 00:01:31,159 --> 00:01:32,079 that wouldn't offend Hitler. 38 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:33,839 - [speaking German] 39 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,920 - They were trying to make movies that 40 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,680 wouldn't offend Mussolini. 41 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,040 - If you want to know the truth about Hollywood, 42 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,880 you need to understand 1939. 43 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,159 - 1939 is everything that Hollywood 44 00:01:45,239 --> 00:01:47,599 stood for, both good and bad. 45 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,480 But it did produce gold. 46 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,960 The energy of it all, just breathtaking. 47 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,360 [projector whirring] 48 00:01:58,439 --> 00:02:01,479 [upbeat jazzy music] 49 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,480 - Hollywood, mecca of the motion picture industry. 50 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:09,160 - In 1939, Hollywood made over 500 films, 51 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:15,480 generating an astonishing $659 million at the box office. 52 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,960 - 1939 is really the golden year of classical Hollywood. 53 00:02:18,039 --> 00:02:20,879 It was an absolutely extraordinary year 54 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,960 in terms of the number of classic films 55 00:02:25,039 --> 00:02:27,919 that were produced in a 12-month period in Hollywood. 56 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,560 It was the peak of the Hollywood studio system, 57 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:36,319 the peak of the greatest iconic stars of the silver screen. 58 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,720 And it was the point at which they just suddenly kind of hit 59 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,240 their stride and produced just one 60 00:02:43,319 --> 00:02:45,719 classic film after another. 61 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,720 - 1939 is a culmination of so much of what Hollywood had done. 62 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,240 All of that was providing a staggering amount of work 63 00:02:53,319 --> 00:02:54,359 for an enormous number of people. 64 00:02:54,439 --> 00:02:56,479 I always want to go back and say, 65 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,520 do you know how this is peak Hollywood? 66 00:02:58,599 --> 00:03:01,479 ♪ ♪ 67 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,720 And the great event of 1939 was ""Gone with the Wind."" 68 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:09,959 - "Gone with the Wind" was the most ambitious movie 69 00:03:10,039 --> 00:03:13,399 of Hollywood's golden age, and its producer, 70 00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:15,799 David O. Selznick, had everything 71 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:17,919 riding on the film's success. 72 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,200 - Selznick was everything you imagine a producer should be. 73 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,960 He was a publicist, he was detail maniac. 74 00:03:24,039 --> 00:03:26,319 He was famous for calling people up 75 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,640 at 4:00 in the morning because he'd 76 00:03:27,719 --> 00:03:30,239 had an idea about some tiny detail 77 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:33,519 of a fireplace or something, you know, ridiculous. 78 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:37,159 - Selznick was what today we might call a control freak. 79 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,160 He was just constantly firing off memos and sending them 80 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,120 to everybody all over the set and saying, 81 00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:44,959 you know, you need to do this, and you need to do that. 82 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:47,359 Selznick was not only a compulsive memo writer, 83 00:03:47,439 --> 00:03:48,719 he was a compulsive gambler. 84 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,320 And he basically bet the farm on it, 85 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,920 and he stood to lose everything if "Gone with the Wind" 86 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,680 wasn't a success. 87 00:03:54,759 --> 00:03:58,439 But this was a gamble that he was ready to take. 88 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,880 - "Gone with the Wind" was a tumultuous production 89 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,560 right from the start. 90 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:05,199 Filming had already been delayed by two years 91 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,800 because Selznick was determined to secure 92 00:04:07,879 --> 00:04:09,999 Clark Gable for the lead role. 93 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,960 - Clark Gable and Carole Lombard 94 00:04:12,039 --> 00:04:14,839 returned from Kingman, Arizona, as Mr. and Mrs. Clark Gable. 95 00:04:14,919 --> 00:04:15,719 This news means a good many broken hearts 96 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,360 all over the world. 97 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:20,759 - Clark Gable was not just a great star, 98 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,519 he was the great star. 99 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,280 He was known as the King of Hollywood. 100 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,080 - When Clark walked into the forecourt, 101 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,200 the police were nearly overpowered. 102 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,599 - In today's terms, he would be kind of, you know, 103 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,760 George Clooney and Brad Pitt rolled into one. 104 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,959 He was just the A-list star. 105 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,760 Everybody thought that Clark Gable should play Rhett 106 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,719 Butler, except Clark Gable. 107 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,840 There were various elements of the character 108 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,120 that Gable was particularly uncomfortable with. 109 00:04:44,199 --> 00:04:47,119 He didn't much like the idea of being the man 110 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:49,079 who was chasing a woman. 111 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,440 He was used to being the man who the women were chasing. 112 00:04:50,519 --> 00:04:51,479 - This war has stopped being a joke 113 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,120 when a girl like you doesn't know how 114 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:54,719 to wear the latest fashion. 115 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,240 - Rhett Butler was a bit of a dandy, 116 00:04:56,319 --> 00:04:58,439 that he liked his clothing, which was not 117 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:00,039 a guy's thing in the 1930s. 118 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,640 That he would be surrounded by all these ladies in hoop 119 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,640 skirts, and that he would have to dance with them. 120 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,560 - You do waltz divinely, Captain Butler. 121 00:05:09,639 --> 00:05:11,559 - He just didn't think it was for him, 122 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:14,159 and of course, it would go on to be the film that defined 123 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,160 his career, that absolutely kind of, you know, 124 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,360 locked him into iconic classic status. 125 00:05:20,439 --> 00:05:23,959 - But finding the perfect actress to play Scarlett 126 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,880 O'Hara was proving impossible, and it 127 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:29,919 was threatening to derail the entire production. 128 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,400 - The big question very quickly became 129 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,800 who was going to play Scarlett O'Hara, 130 00:05:34,879 --> 00:05:40,319 who is this spoiled, vain, 131 00:05:40,399 --> 00:05:41,999 dreadful woman, really, 132 00:05:42,079 --> 00:05:43,359 but there's something lovable about her. 133 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:45,759 - Selznick screen-tested some of the biggest 134 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,799 actresses in Hollywood. 135 00:05:47,879 --> 00:05:49,439 - [inaudible]. 136 00:05:49,519 --> 00:05:50,879 - But none of their performances 137 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:52,279 quite hit the mark. 138 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,320 - It was very difficult to cast. 139 00:05:54,399 --> 00:05:57,439 Almost every great actress in Hollywood 140 00:05:57,519 --> 00:05:59,199 wanted to play the role. 141 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,519 - I've been wondering where you're keeping yourself. 142 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,960 - Scarlett was a very coveted role. 143 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,320 They screen-tested 80 actresses. 144 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:07,399 - I love you. 145 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,760 - I'm in love with you, Ashley. 146 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,119 - I love you. 147 00:06:10,199 --> 00:06:11,599 - The search was really well-publicized. 148 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,880 It had become this kind of PR stunt, a bit like, you know, 149 00:06:14,959 --> 00:06:16,399 Cinderella's ball, like the prince was 150 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,360 going to try the slipper on every single girl 151 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:20,079 in the country. 152 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,520 Selznick got to the point where he was sure 153 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,880 that he was failing, and he sent one of his famous memos 154 00:06:25,959 --> 00:06:26,719 saying, I think this is going to be the biggest 155 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,120 failure of my career. 156 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:32,759 And everybody is to blame, including me. 157 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,239 - As the search continued, little 158 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:37,839 did Selznick know that his Scarlett O'Hara 159 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,600 had just arrived in town. 160 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,480 Vivien Leigh was an up-and-coming British theater 161 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,160 actress, unknown in Hollywood except for the rumors 162 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,320 that she was having an adulterous affair 163 00:06:48,399 --> 00:06:53,519 with the new British star, Laurence Olivier. 164 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,520 - My father and Vivien first met-- 165 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,440 it was she who engineered it. 166 00:06:58,519 --> 00:07:02,559 She was married to a very nice lawyer called Leigh Holman, 167 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:06,879 and she dragged him to see Larry as Romeo, 168 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:09,159 and afterwards they went round to the dressing room. 169 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,960 My papa was in his vest and underwear 170 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,120 taking his cream to his face, and Vivien 171 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:20,759 leaned over and planted a kiss on his shoulder. 172 00:07:20,839 --> 00:07:26,319 And he saw her and fell for her immediately. 173 00:07:26,399 --> 00:07:29,039 - Both told me separately that when they saw each other, 174 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,280 it was just absolutely explosive. 175 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,640 - Unguarded and intimate shots of Laurence and Vivien's 176 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,360 early life together were captured on film. 177 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:40,479 - There's some rather grainy homemade 178 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,000 footage of Larry and Vivien when they first fell in love. 179 00:07:44,079 --> 00:07:49,479 The way he ran down to the pool. 180 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,680 Everything they did was so charged with that, whew! 181 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,200 - Their early relationship was brought 182 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:01,599 together through acting as lovers in "Fire Over England." 183 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,360 - Dear and foolish. 184 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:07,359 - Why foolish? 185 00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:11,199 - Very clever photography, with the beautiful shafts of light. 186 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:16,559 This is so real that watching it, 187 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:19,319 you feel a sense of intrusion. 188 00:08:21,879 --> 00:08:25,799 And being in each other's arms for the camera was one thing, 189 00:08:25,879 --> 00:08:27,799 but it went far beyond that. 190 00:08:27,879 --> 00:08:30,319 They were in each other's arms between every take, 191 00:08:30,399 --> 00:08:33,359 in their dressing rooms, making love, to such an extent 192 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,080 that Larry was absolutely exhausted by her demands. 193 00:08:37,159 --> 00:08:39,319 She was a very demanding lady. 194 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,200 My father and Vivien had to cover up 195 00:08:44,279 --> 00:08:47,199 their illicit love affair because 196 00:08:47,279 --> 00:08:50,479 of the prurience of Hollywood. 197 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:51,919 - Hollywood was very conservative, 198 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,680 and Larry and Vivien had to keep their affair a secret. 199 00:08:55,759 --> 00:08:57,359 Because if it had got out, it would 200 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,720 have been an absolute scandal. 201 00:08:59,799 --> 00:09:02,799 - Vivien had come to Hollywood for love, 202 00:09:02,879 --> 00:09:05,719 but she had an ulterior motive. 203 00:09:05,799 --> 00:09:07,159 - Vivien followed Larry to Hollywood 204 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,520 because she wanted very much to be with him, 205 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,880 and she also wanted to be there because they 206 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,200 were casting Scarlett O'Hara. 207 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:18,919 Selznick cast Clark Gable as Rhett Butler, of course. 208 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,760 That was at everybody's insistence across America. 209 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,080 They'd all read this book. 210 00:09:23,159 --> 00:09:25,119 And Vivien read it and was determined, 211 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,080 set her heart on it. 212 00:09:27,159 --> 00:09:30,839 - The making of "Gone with the Wind" was in dire straits. 213 00:09:30,919 --> 00:09:33,119 Preproduction costs were soaring, 214 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,560 and David O. Selznick had been forced 215 00:09:34,639 --> 00:09:36,919 to start filming before they'd found an actress 216 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,000 to play the crucial lead role. 217 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,360 - Before Scarlett had been cast, 218 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,160 they shot the burning of Atlanta. 219 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,400 And they did that because the money 220 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,800 people said, if it doesn't begin by this date, 221 00:09:51,879 --> 00:09:53,639 the money is off. 222 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,160 And so they had to do it with understudies. 223 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,840 - Part of the legend of the making of "Gone with the Wind" 224 00:10:02,919 --> 00:10:05,159 is that the burning of Atlanta, which 225 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,720 is one of the major spectacular set pieces of the film, 226 00:10:08,799 --> 00:10:10,519 Selznick managed to get permission 227 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,160 to burn down the backlot of "King Kong," 228 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,720 which is a movie he had worked on. 229 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:20,039 Obviously they had lots of cameras to catch every angle, 230 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,120 because they could only do this once. 231 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,960 So they weren't going to do a reshoot. 232 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,240 Olivier went with Vivien Leigh to witness 233 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,160 this astonishing sight. 234 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,600 - Larry said, now look. 235 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,919 I want you to stand on this platform 236 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,680 so you can see everything going on. 237 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:42,559 And David Selznick was there, shouting at these people, 238 00:10:42,639 --> 00:10:44,079 do it this way, do it that way. 239 00:10:44,159 --> 00:10:47,519 And the fire was huge, three, four stories high 240 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,520 of flames and smoke. 241 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,120 And Vivien was excited, and Larry took David Selznick 242 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,560 and said, I want you to meet Vivien Leigh. 243 00:10:55,639 --> 00:10:57,559 Meet your Scarlett. 244 00:10:57,639 --> 00:10:58,879 And he could see. 245 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,000 And he said, I've got my Scarlett. 246 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,280 That's no question. 247 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,040 - It really was instant. 248 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,680 He took one look at her and said, yeah, this is it. 249 00:11:06,759 --> 00:11:13,279 And did the screen test, and that just confirmed his instinct. 250 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,360 - Coming up, at the heart of golden-age 251 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,120 Hollywood's most famous film lies an uncomfortable truth. 252 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,080 - Could you tell me about "Gone with the Wind's" race problem? 253 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:27,479 - "Gone with the Wind" is a race problem. 254 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,879 "Gone with the Wind" is trash. 255 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,200 It is racist propaganda. 256 00:11:32,279 --> 00:11:32,959 It's bullshit. 257 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,960 - The actor who would become Sir Laurence Olivier, darling 258 00:11:38,039 --> 00:11:41,199 of the British stage, was relatively unknown when 259 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:43,999 he came to Hollywood in 1939. 260 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:44,880 But this wasn't his first attempt 261 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,040 to break into the movies. 262 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,280 He'd tried and failed to make a name for himself 263 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,000 in Hollywood several years earlier. 264 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,560 - My father was a big theater star. 265 00:11:55,639 --> 00:11:57,439 His Romeo was a fantastic success, 266 00:11:57,519 --> 00:12:00,399 and his Hamlet had been absolutely magnificent. 267 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,720 But his first films were dreadful, and I've seen them. 268 00:12:04,799 --> 00:12:05,719 Embarrassing. 269 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:08,119 For example, "The Yellow Ticket." 270 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,720 He was in a small railway carriage with this very 271 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:12,559 attractive woman. 272 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:15,799 - Um, I'm awfully sorry. 273 00:12:15,879 --> 00:12:19,199 - His eyes were always full of emptiness, out of focus. 274 00:12:19,279 --> 00:12:21,599 He was a little bit wooden. 275 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,159 His gestures were slightly exaggerated. 276 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,840 [laughs] 277 00:12:25,919 --> 00:12:28,279 - You're pretty sharp, aren't you? 278 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,120 - In 1939, Laurence Olivier returned to Hollywood to have 279 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,720 another shot at stardom. 280 00:12:34,799 --> 00:12:36,639 He'd been cast in "Wuthering Heights," 281 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,680 and gave an imposing performance as Heathcliff. 282 00:12:38,759 --> 00:12:39,999 - Go on! 283 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,920 Shoot, you puling chicken of a man 284 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,520 with not enough blood in you to keep your hands dirty. 285 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,360 - But the aggression of the character 286 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,400 was reflected in Olivier's difficult personality 287 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,520 on the set. 288 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,720 - Larry had more charm, when he put it on, 289 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:55,479 than anybody I've ever seen. 290 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,479 But he was a man on a short fuse. 291 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,319 - Vivien told me that Larry, on the set of "Wuthering Heights," 292 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:04,439 was very, very difficult, because ther 293 00:13:04,519 --> 00:13:07,719 was always that-- don't come too near. 294 00:13:07,799 --> 00:13:10,079 It was almost as though he felt godlike, 295 00:13:10,159 --> 00:13:13,959 and he didn't want anybody to cast a shadow 296 00:13:14,039 --> 00:13:16,959 on his godlike personality. 297 00:13:17,039 --> 00:13:19,599 - Did you like Larry? 298 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:20,959 - No. 299 00:13:21,039 --> 00:13:22,239 I admired him. 300 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,800 I admired him enormously, but I didn't like him. 301 00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:33,079 - He didn't suffer fools at all, and was easily bored. 302 00:13:33,159 --> 00:13:35,319 Diplomacy was not for him. 303 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:38,759 - You'd be amazed at the scenes between Merle and myself that 304 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,400 took place, beneath that heart-throbbing romance 305 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,640 called "Wuthering Heights." 306 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,640 You'd be amazed at the temperament, and the spit, 307 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,720 and the fury, and the passion. 308 00:13:46,799 --> 00:13:48,879 - Merle Oberon was much better on screen 309 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,680 than he was, to start with. 310 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:54,519 - Heathcliff, when you went away, what did you do? 311 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,000 Where did you go? 312 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,480 - There is a scene in the film where 313 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,439 they are sitting on a crag, and she 314 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:02,559 is dying to be close to him. 315 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:05,959 The problem was that with his enunciation, when it came 316 00:14:06,039 --> 00:14:08,759 to close-ups, little bits of spit 317 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,920 used to hit her in the face. 318 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,760 - Cathy, you're not thinking of that other world now? 319 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,480 - And she complained about that, understandably. 320 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,959 And he lost his temper and shouted 321 00:14:21,039 --> 00:14:22,799 and screamed and yelled, and everybody 322 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:24,359 left him sitting on a moor. 323 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,960 And after a couple of days, they got it together again. 324 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:31,079 And it was-- it worked very well. 325 00:14:31,159 --> 00:14:32,759 - Fill my arms with heather. 326 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:33,960 All they can hold. 327 00:14:34,039 --> 00:14:35,039 Come on. 328 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,240 - Cathy, you're still my queen! 329 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,760 - I was very snobby about films. 330 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,160 I did them to make money, and said so. 331 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,160 The man who changed me was the man I quarreled 332 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,560 with most bitterly of all, really, and that 333 00:14:43,639 --> 00:14:45,159 was William Wyler. 334 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,440 - My father's acting improved significantly 335 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:49,559 because of the director. 336 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:51,959 The death scene, when Heathcliff 337 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:56,479 carries Cathy to her bed, William Wyler 338 00:14:56,559 --> 00:14:59,119 made him do 62 times. 339 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,480 And at the end of each time William Wyler 340 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:04,759 just said, be better. 341 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,240 - What do they know of heaven or hell, 342 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Cathy, who know nothing of life? 343 00:15:10,399 --> 00:15:16,599 - He speaks with soft, soft, soft passion, 344 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:20,079 and with a look of such desperate tragedy. 345 00:15:20,159 --> 00:15:22,799 - Do not leave me in this dark alone, 346 00:15:22,879 --> 00:15:24,479 where I cannot find you. 347 00:15:24,559 --> 00:15:27,639 - It's a tear-jerking moment. 348 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,560 It was the first really important 349 00:15:29,639 --> 00:15:30,679 part that he had played. 350 00:15:30,759 --> 00:15:33,759 He saw that this, by God, would make him 351 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,880 star number one, which it did. 352 00:15:38,159 --> 00:15:40,159 - Having won the lead role in "Gone with the Wind," Laurence 353 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,640 Olivier's secret lover, Vivien Leigh, 354 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,720 was on the cusp of stardom herself. 355 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:48,959 - Vivien told me that she knew that part 356 00:15:49,039 --> 00:15:51,319 would absolutely make her. 357 00:15:51,399 --> 00:15:53,359 She said, there were so many people 358 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:54,840 that looked at me with such, for want 359 00:15:54,919 --> 00:15:57,239 of a better word, hatred. 360 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,240 And she said, it took me a long time 361 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,880 to realize it was the dream of many, many people. 362 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,520 - Right from the very beginning, 363 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,560 as the camera closes in on her, you 364 00:16:07,639 --> 00:16:09,759 can see that she is Scarlett. 365 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,240 - Fiddle-dee-dee. 366 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,160 - Couldn't be anybody else but her. 367 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,880 - War, war, war. 368 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,560 This war talk's spoiling all the fun at every party 369 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:17,679 this spring. 370 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:19,039 I get so bored I could scream. 371 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:24,040 - She's never far away from giving a genteel, 372 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:29,000 rather self-pleased giggle about the situation, 373 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,240 about her love of life. 374 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,600 - There isn't going to be any war. 375 00:16:32,679 --> 00:16:33,879 - Not going to be any war? 376 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,960 - Why, honey, of course there's going to be a war. 377 00:16:36,039 --> 00:16:38,479 - If either of you boys says war just once again, 378 00:16:38,559 --> 00:16:39,839 I'll go in the house and slam the door. 379 00:16:39,919 --> 00:16:41,199 - But Scarlett, honey! 380 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:41,959 - Don't you want us to have a war? 381 00:16:42,039 --> 00:16:43,479 - Wait a minute, Scarlett. 382 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:44,599 Honey, please. 383 00:16:44,679 --> 00:16:45,959 - There is an awful lot of Vivien 384 00:16:46,039 --> 00:16:48,199 in that role, no question. 385 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:52,119 She got her way whenever she really wanted to get her way. 386 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,040 A well-known actress, Judy Campbell, 387 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,560 said about Vivien, what Vivien wanted, she got. 388 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:00,839 And she did, too. 389 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:04,159 - With his Scarlett O'Hara finally in place, 390 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,920 David O. Selznick turned his attention to casting 391 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,040 the iconic role of Mammy. 392 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,319 - I'm Kevin John Goff, and Hattie McDaniel 393 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,160 was my great-grand aunt. 394 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,400 For the role of Mammy, every Black actress 395 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,800 showed up for that audition. 396 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,080 Eleanor Roosevelt, the First Lady of the United States, 397 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,160 wanted her maid to get the part and wrote 398 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,120 a letter of recommendation. 399 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,160 Hattie showed up in actual full costume. 400 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,840 Selznick and the rest of the people, 401 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,200 just they couldn't believe it. 402 00:17:32,279 --> 00:17:33,959 There are a couple of scenes that 403 00:17:34,039 --> 00:17:35,959 they're-- they're performing in the screen test. 404 00:17:36,039 --> 00:17:37,519 - Suck in. 405 00:17:37,599 --> 00:17:39,519 - One is where she's pulling on a corset, 406 00:17:39,599 --> 00:17:42,639 and the other is helping Vivien Leigh adjust her dress. 407 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,200 - Keep your shawl on your shoulders. 408 00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:46,319 - She's doing these slight movements and gestures 409 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,240 with her body that stand out. 410 00:17:48,319 --> 00:17:51,319 She's moving her head from side to side, showing 411 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,200 that acerbic wit, that bite. 412 00:17:54,279 --> 00:17:55,919 - Ashley Wilkes told me he liked to see a girl 413 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,560 with a healthy appetite. 414 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,280 - What gentlemen says and what they thinks 415 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,239 is two different things. 416 00:18:00,319 --> 00:18:03,199 And I ain't noticed Mr. Ashley asking for to marry you. 417 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:05,999 - When Selznick saw Hattie's performance in the rushes, 418 00:18:06,079 --> 00:18:07,999 he was astonished. 419 00:18:08,079 --> 00:18:09,559 She turned out to be, in his opinion, one of the strongest 420 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:10,920 characters in the film. 421 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,120 And this led him to believe that she 422 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,240 would be one of the great Black performers in Hollywood. 423 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:21,319 - With an extraordinary cast, Selznick's Civil War epic 424 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,400 was reaching new heights in terms of scale and spectacle. 425 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,080 - Maybe the most iconic scene in "Gone with the Wind" 426 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,800 is when Scarlett is searching for the doctor 427 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,320 among the Confederate wounded at the train depot. 428 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,800 The camera is following her at first, 429 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,720 and then it registers her horror without showing 430 00:18:39,799 --> 00:18:41,319 you what she's seeing. 431 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,320 And then the camera starts to pan back, 432 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,800 and it's on a crane, which means that it can keep pulling 433 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,560 back, but also pulling up. 434 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,200 You realize that she is surrounded 435 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:55,839 by thousands and thousands of wounded 436 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,800 and dying and dead soldiers. 437 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,200 In order to get the scale that they were looking for, 438 00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:04,679 they couldn't even afford to hire enough actors. 439 00:19:04,759 --> 00:19:07,439 And so they interspersed actors with dummies 440 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:11,719 so that they could just get the sheer number of bodies. 441 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:13,759 Her figure gets smaller and smaller 442 00:19:13,839 --> 00:19:18,639 until she's actually wiped out by the scale of 443 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,240 the devastation to humanity. 444 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:24,799 And all that you see, then, waving in the foreground, 445 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,840 is the Confederate battle flag. 446 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,560 - Surprisingly to modern audiences, 447 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,600 "Gone with the Wind" tells the story of the American Civil 448 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,080 War from the perspective of the Confederates, who went 449 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,640 to war to defend slave-owning. 450 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,000 - History is meant to be written by the victors. 451 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:45,239 And so it is a very, very weird thing that "Gone with the Wind" 452 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:47,119 is made, and it's so sympathetic. 453 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,600 It seems so sympathetic to the Confederacy. 454 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,480 The way in which it treats the plantation South as being 455 00:19:55,559 --> 00:19:58,159 a perfect, gentle, elegant society 456 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,520 is so different from the reality. 457 00:20:01,599 --> 00:20:03,959 "Gone with the Wind" becomes a preferred way of thinking 458 00:20:04,039 --> 00:20:05,559 about the American past. 459 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,040 - Many people think of classic Hollywood films 460 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,759 as nostalgic, harmless, innocent fun. 461 00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:15,359 And unfortunately, these films can 462 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,240 be quite difficult for some communities to watch. 463 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,200 - Excuse me, Mr. Rhett. 464 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:24,359 - It's important to understand that what is referred 465 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,560 to as the golden age of Hollywood 466 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,240 is an era in which racism was rampant. 467 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:34,839 - Could you tell me about "Gone with the Wind's" race problem? 468 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,760 - [chuckles] 469 00:20:37,839 --> 00:20:39,719 "Gone with the Wind" is a race problem. 470 00:20:39,799 --> 00:20:43,119 "Gone with the Wind" is trash. 471 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,320 It is racist propaganda. 472 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,320 It's bullshit. 473 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,040 - Even by classic Hollywood standards, "Gone with the Wind" 474 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,559 has some shocking racial representations. 475 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,120 As a person of color, you almost 476 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,280 have to distance yourself from the film 477 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,079 in order to get through it. 478 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:00,720 It's an ordeal. 479 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:04,559 [dramatic music] 480 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,400 The use of Technicolor is particularly powerful 481 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,400 when it comes to depicting the slaves working in the fields. 482 00:21:14,599 --> 00:21:16,119 Shots of enslaved African-Americans 483 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,040 are bathed in glorious Technicolor light. 484 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,079 These aren't gritty images of people 485 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,480 working and getting dirty. 486 00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:28,919 These are incredibly romantic, almost glamorized images. 487 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,040 [bell ringing] 488 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,400 - Quitting time! 489 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,720 - Who says it's quitting time? 490 00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:38,919 - I said it's quitting time. 491 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,680 - I's the foreman. 492 00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:41,479 I's the one says when it's quitting time at Tara. 493 00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:44,479 Quitting time! 494 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:47,119 - The tension between the film's famous, 495 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:52,600 beautiful images and the harsh, brutal realities of slavery 496 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,840 are especially clear in the shocking scene when we see 497 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,040 young, white Southern belles enjoying 498 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,719 their peaceful afternoon nap, whilst little Black girls are 499 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:09,159 fanning them with giant peacock feathers. 500 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,680 Like so many scenes in "Gone with the Wind," 501 00:22:11,759 --> 00:22:14,479 the grim realities of Black slave labor 502 00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:18,799 are glossed over, glamorized, romanticized by the lighting 503 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:24,480 and beauty of the setting. 504 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:27,279 - "Gone with the Wind," it's a representation of the desire 505 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:33,119 to see Black people subordinate to white people, 506 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,720 relative to this lost cause narrative about the Civil War 507 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:39,359 and its aftermath. 508 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,960 It's considered an American classic, but how can you 509 00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:45,159 embrace this film without embracing 510 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:45,760 the racism inherent to it? 511 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:49,039 That's impossible. 512 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,319 - Although the film was depicting an event that took 513 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,160 place 70 years earlier, the racism 514 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,560 on screen was still a daily reality 515 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,560 for African-Americans in 1939. 516 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,320 - 1939, you're talking in between the Great 517 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,960 Depression and World War II. 518 00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:06,799 Black people were still being hung. 519 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,160 There were certain parts of towns 520 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,680 that you couldn't go into. 521 00:23:09,759 --> 00:23:13,919 So of course segregation lived on that set. 522 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,240 There were toilets for the white actors, 523 00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:19,199 and toilets for the Black actors. 524 00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:23,199 There was a point in the film, during the shooting, where 525 00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:25,239 the Black actors were protesting because 526 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:27,079 of the segregated toilets. 527 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,040 And Clark Gable eventually stepped in and said, look, 528 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,999 everyone's going to use the same bathroom facilities. 529 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:34,559 - The making of "Gone with the Wind" 530 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,280 caused enormous controversy in the Black community, 531 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,959 and there was strong criticism of the Black actors 532 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:42,599 appearing in the film. 533 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,160 - Hattie's participation in "Gone with the Wind" 534 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,240 was met with a lot of negativity 535 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:48,759 from the Black press. 536 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:50,839 They felt that the film was definitely 537 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,680 stereotypical and wasn't showing the Black person 538 00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:55,799 in the best light. 539 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,560 There were some things in that book 540 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,720 that were troubling for her, and she wanted to make sure 541 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:01,359 that her character, in the way she portrayed it, 542 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,600 had some dignity, and it wasn't one-dimensional. 543 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,840 One of her famous quotes was, I'd rather make $700 544 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,080 playing a maid than $7 being one. 545 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,040 The Mammy character was supposed 546 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,239 to be a little more subservient, low-key, 547 00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:20,519 yes ma'am, no ma'am type of character. 548 00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:22,959 Hattie flipped the script on that. 549 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:24,719 From the very first moment that Hattie appears in the film, 550 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:27,079 she makes her presence known. 551 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,000 - Miss Scarlett! 552 00:24:29,079 --> 00:24:30,199 Where are you going without your shawl, and the night 553 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:31,559 air fixing to set in? 554 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,200 - She has that voice, boisterous, 555 00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:37,119 perfect voice, the pitch, the power behind it. 556 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,960 - Miss Scarlett, come on in the house. 557 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:42,039 Come on in before you catch your death of dampness. 558 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,799 - No, I'm going to wait for Pa to come 559 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,960 home from the Wilkes's. 560 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:47,519 - You could just feel that almost 561 00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:49,479 mother-daughter, scolding kind of a relationship 562 00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:50,479 between them. 563 00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:52,959 - Come on! 564 00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:54,959 Mm, mm, mm. 565 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:57,479 - Hattie's offscreen friendship with Clark Gable 566 00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:00,039 actually went back years before "Gone with the Wind." 567 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,479 Hattie would throw parties. 568 00:25:01,559 --> 00:25:03,079 Clark Gable would be there. 569 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,000 I don't think he ever missed any of her parties. 570 00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:05,919 - Have a drink of sherry, Mammy. 571 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,960 - There's a very endearing scene 572 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:09,679 in "Gone with the Wind" between Rhett and Mammy, 573 00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:12,119 and he offers her a drink. 574 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,240 But Clark Gable decided that on one of the takes 575 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:18,839 he would replace the tea, or the colored water, 576 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:19,840 with whiskey. 577 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,320 - Have another glass. 578 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,240 - So when they did that take, and she 579 00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:26,199 took a swig of that whiskey, it burned her throat. 580 00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:29,119 I'm sure her eyes got big, and she was just thrown off-guard. 581 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,480 And I'm sure Clark Gable had the biggest laugh on the set. 582 00:25:31,559 --> 00:25:33,679 - Mr. Rhett, you is bad. 583 00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:35,319 - There are several scenes throughout the film where 584 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,200 Hattie's showing different ranges, 585 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:39,319 but there's one particular scene where she's showing 586 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,560 some true raw emotion, when she's going 587 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,600 up the stairs with Melanie. 588 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:48,560 - It's Mr. Rhett I was worried about. 589 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,240 He done lost his mind these last couple of days. 590 00:25:51,319 --> 00:25:53,359 - Rhett Butler's character is distraught over the loss 591 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,920 of his daughter Bonnie, and you can see how the camera 592 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,000 is following Hattie. 593 00:25:57,079 --> 00:25:59,159 She's the main focus. 594 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,880 - But he wouldn't even open the door 595 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,680 when Miss Scarlett beat on it and hollered to him, 596 00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:04,759 and that's the way it's been for two whole days. 597 00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:06,279 - Oh, Mammy! 598 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,559 - Those tears are real. 599 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,000 This wasn't something she was just 600 00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:11,159 merely reading off a script. 601 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,240 The emotion, it's raw. 602 00:26:13,319 --> 00:26:16,559 It's genuine. 603 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,600 - Lord. 604 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,200 - She was drawing from energy from her life, from her past, 605 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:23,279 from her upbringing. 606 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,639 That moment is very powerful, and it's one of the strongest 607 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,040 moments in the film. 608 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,519 - Coming up, for one of its stars, 609 00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:32,959 the pressures of filming were taking their toll. 610 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:35,159 - During the making of "Gone with the Wind," 611 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,200 Vivien Leigh actually had a breakdown. 612 00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:39,759 It was all too much. 613 00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:43,479 - And even when Hattie became the first Black woman ever 614 00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:46,559 nominated for an Oscar, she still faced appalling racism 615 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,720 from Hollywood. 616 00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:51,519 - Selznick had to call in a favor 617 00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:54,799 to get her into the Ambassador Hotel at the Cocoanut Grove, 618 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,000 and she had to sit in the back of the room. 619 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,120 - Towards the end of 1939, after 11 grueling months, 620 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,440 production on "Gone with the Wind" was coming to an end. 621 00:27:05,519 --> 00:27:08,599 - Over the course of the making of "Gone with the Wind," 622 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,520 everybody's tempers frayed very badly. 623 00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:14,719 It was a difficult production, and they went through around 624 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:16,599 15 screenwriters. 625 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,600 They also went through four directors. 626 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,120 - Producer David O. Selznick's control 627 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,640 freakery was pushing the entire cast and crew over the edge. 628 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,000 - Everybody was losing their temper 629 00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:29,879 left, right, and center, including Selznick. 630 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,720 He was manically attentive to detail. 631 00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:36,559 He absolutely cared about every aspect of the film. 632 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,120 And he was controlling the director, and the script, 633 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,120 and the actors, and the production, 634 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,600 and the look, and the costumes, and everything. 635 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,760 It was driving everybody nuts. 636 00:27:50,839 --> 00:27:52,119 Selznick and Gable didn't get off 637 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,440 to a good start, because Selznick, in his very 638 00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:57,359 characteristic way, sent Gable this enormously 639 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,200 long memo telling him how he needed to play Rhett Butler. 640 00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:02,999 Gable was the biggest star in the world. 641 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:03,719 He wasn't going to be told by the producer 642 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:05,399 how to play a part. 643 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,120 And he'd already had to be persuaded to do it, 644 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,000 and it offended him mightily. 645 00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:12,759 And from that point things just went from bad to worse. 646 00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:15,559 By the time the film premiered, Selznick and Gable weren't 647 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,240 really speaking to each other. 648 00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:20,319 - Selznick was particularly concerned 649 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,000 that news of Laurence Olivier and Vivien Leigh's 650 00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:26,239 illicit love affair would make it into the gossip columns, 651 00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:30,679 and he encouraged Laurence to leave town. 652 00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:34,159 - David Selznick was terribly worried that they might 653 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,120 be found out as being lovers. 654 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,920 They were both married to other people. 655 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,400 If the affair had become public, 656 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,280 it would have reduced the appeal of the film no end. 657 00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:47,759 And so they had to be kept secret, secret, secret. 658 00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:52,759 - She really adored him, and to be separated from him 659 00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:55,959 in Hollywood must have been absolute agony, because she 660 00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:57,239 was very, very young. 661 00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,159 - For Vivien, the pressure of filming 662 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,240 and living apart from Laurence was 663 00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,199 beginning to take its toll. 664 00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:07,639 - Playing Scarlett O'Hara took every ounce 665 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,000 of creative energy. 666 00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:11,919 It took every ounce out of her. 667 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,120 She felt completely drained. 668 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,080 - Vivien was very hard-working. 669 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,200 It was a huge part. 670 00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:19,559 She's never off screen. 671 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,280 It took three months. 672 00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:22,919 Normal shooting would be less than half that time. 673 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,200 And it was exhausting to such an extent 674 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:27,279 that when it was finished, David Selznick wanted 675 00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:30,839 to have a few of the earlier shots done again, 676 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,080 Scarlett when she was 18, 677 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,680 she put on those clothes again, and David just took one look 678 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:38,799 at her and said, silly idea. 679 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,400 Forget it. 680 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,680 Because those months of extremely hard work 681 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:46,199 had shown on her face. 682 00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:50,239 It was no longer as pretty and innocent, 683 00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:52,119 and would never be again. 684 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,480 - During the making of "Gone with the Wind," 685 00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:57,519 Vivien Leigh actually had a breakdown. 686 00:29:57,599 --> 00:30:00,439 It was all too much. 687 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,599 - David Selznick telephoned Larry saying, for God's sake, 688 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,960 get your ass over here. 689 00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:06,759 Vivien needs your company. 690 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:08,439 Please come, it's desperate. 691 00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:12,399 And so Larry went there for three or four days, 692 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,360 and she was behaving extraordinarily 693 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,440 badly to people on set. 694 00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:20,759 Vivien developed what was then called manic depression. 695 00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:23,759 It's now called bipolar, nervous breakdowns, 696 00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:25,639 which Larry could predict. 697 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,240 There was a rhythm with this manic, manic energy, 698 00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:30,559 and then she'd have a nervous breakdown. 699 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,400 Shocking. 700 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,200 People didn't talk about it. 701 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:34,399 They used the word sick. 702 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,400 And at that time, there was no cure. 703 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,440 - Even though Vivien was emotionally 704 00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:43,399 exhausted when "Gone with the Wind" w released-- 705 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,080 - For the event all Dixie, indeed all America, 706 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,640 has been waiting for, the world premiere of the film 707 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,160 of "Gone with the Wind." 708 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,640 - --she was propelled into global stardom overnight. 709 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,120 - At the premiere of "Gone with the Wind," 710 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,080 Vivien did tell me that she felt absolute terror, 711 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,320 triumph and terror. 712 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,840 TNT. 713 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,960 - Margaret Mitchell's famous novel comes to the screen, 714 00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:08,679 with Vivien Leigh as Atlanta's Scarlett O'Hara. 715 00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:12,119 - She said, I had emotions that I think very, very 716 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,080 few people have in a lifetime. 717 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,920 She said, I was given an experience that 718 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,840 is rare in my field of work. 719 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,320 I was suddenly world-famous. 720 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,400 - Now that I'm here, it feels just as if I were coming home. 721 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,960 And the warmth and kindness of your wonderful welcome 722 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:30,719 have made it the happiest homecoming 723 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,679 I could possibly imagine. 724 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,439 I greet you, and I want to thank you with all my heart. 725 00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:37,959 - She was the center of attention. 726 00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:40,359 She knew it was the role of her life, 727 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,120 and I think she must have felt absolutely thrilled. 728 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,560 - But there was a glaring absence at the premiere. 729 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,520 - Hattie was not invited, along with 730 00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:50,359 the other Black performers, to the premiere 731 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,520 of "Gone with the Wind." 732 00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:54,039 The reason was because of the Jim Crow laws. 733 00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:57,239 Segregation was a living, breathing thing in the South, 734 00:31:57,319 --> 00:31:59,359 and Hattie's image was removed from the program. 735 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,640 Considering that she was one of the main characters 736 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,200 in the film, that's quite a humiliating and 737 00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:09,279 demeaning thing. 738 00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:12,679 Hattie's performance went down really well at the premiere, 739 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:14,679 and the mayor of Atlanta singled her out for praise, 740 00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,839 and the crowd erupted. 741 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,600 And afterwards, Margaret Mitchell 742 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,760 sent a telegram saying to Hattie, 743 00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:25,719 you should have been there, the applause was incredible. 744 00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:27,959 And for Hattie, receiving that telegram 745 00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:33,039 had to be a very bitter pill to swallow. 746 00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:35,719 - "Gone with the Wind" was an enormous critical 747 00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:37,359 and financial success. 748 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,480 - The gala premiere of "Gone with the Wind," 749 00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:40,959 now in the exciting new medium of 750 00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:44,479 70-millimeter widescreen and full stereophonic sound. 751 00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:47,759 - The film was nominated for 13 Oscars, 752 00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:50,919 with nods for David O. Selznick and Vivien Leigh. 753 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,240 And Hattie McDaniel, after petitioning Selznick to put 754 00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:57,079 her forward, received the first nomination for 755 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,560 a Black performer in history. 756 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,200 - By the time "Gone with the Wind" was released, 757 00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:05,359 Selznick's control freakery was completely vindicated. 758 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,520 It was an enormous success. 759 00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:12,239 - It made money like no other film had up until that point. 760 00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:13,919 Many, many people go to see it. 761 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,440 But also, they charge extra for the tickets. 762 00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:19,399 It costs $1 to go and see it, rather than a quarter. 763 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,640 The first year "Gone with the Wind" wa release, 764 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,520 it made something like $18 million. 765 00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:28,559 And at this time, a big hit was $5 million. 766 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,000 So it was a success that was really off the scale. 767 00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:35,039 - When adjusted for inflation, it is still the most 768 00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:37,519 successful movie of all time. 769 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:39,039 It broke all box office records, 770 00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:41,839 and David O. Selznick carried home 771 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,360 his Oscar for Best Picture. 772 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,880 - 1939. 773 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,320 The Academy Dinner. 774 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,720 - Enthusiastic reports from the time 775 00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:51,359 show just how delighted David O. Selznick 776 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,840 and Vivien Leigh were. 777 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,600 - Scarlett O'Hara, her glorious self. 778 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,720 Vivien Leigh, escorted by producer David Selznick. 779 00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:01,639 - The moment Vivien won the Oscar, the feeling 780 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,640 was overwhelming. 781 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,560 - Miss Vivien Leigh. 782 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,160 - Vivien gave a gracious and moving acceptance speech. 783 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,839 - Please forgive me if my words are inadequate in thanking you 784 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,680 for your very great kindness. 785 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,400 If I were to mention all those who've shown me 786 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,360 such wonderful generosity through "Gone with the Wind," 787 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,280 I should have to entertain you with an oration 788 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,000 as long as "Gone with the Wind" itself 789 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:27,559 - And when she thanked the man who gave her the part, 790 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:32,559 it was clear how much she credited him for her success. 791 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:35,959 - So if I may, I should like to devote my thanks 792 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:40,039 on this occasion to that composite figure of energy, 793 00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:42,239 courage, and very great kindness 794 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,800 in whom all points of "Gone with the Wind" meet, 795 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,400 Mr. David Selznick. 796 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,480 - Vivien got the Oscar for Scarlett O'Hara, 797 00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,959 and Larry did not get the Oscar for Heathcliff. 798 00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:56,959 - The one feeling that Laurence Olivier had when Vivien won 799 00:34:57,039 --> 00:34:59,199 the Oscar was deep resentment. 800 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,920 Because Larry was manic to be number one. 801 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,800 He wasn't a sharer. 802 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,120 - And when they were driving away, he said-- 803 00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:08,839 to me, it's not been written about-- he 804 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,320 said he was so jealous, he simply couldn't bear it. 805 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,400 And he held her Oscar, and it was all he could 806 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,840 do to restrain himself from-- 807 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,400 anyway. 808 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,480 He was very jealous, indeed, as a character. 809 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:25,719 He didn't like to be competed with on stage or on screen. 810 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,000 He always had to be number one, which was one 811 00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:30,719 reason he became number one. 812 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,320 - That was part of what destroyed him. 813 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,920 It made him, but it also destroyed him. 814 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,680 It made Vivien, but it also destroyed her. 815 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:46,639 - Hattie McDaniel's Oscar night was an entirely 816 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,479 different experience. 817 00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:52,159 - When she went to the Academy Award presentation, 818 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,399 she was seated separate from the white actors 819 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,880 in the film, which, you know, speaks to the fact 820 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,120 that she's not considered an equal. 821 00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:03,039 - Selznick had to call it a favor 822 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:06,039 to get her into the Ambassador Hotel, at the Cocoanut Grove, 823 00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:07,839 and she had to sit in the back of the room 824 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,720 with her escort and her agent. 825 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,880 - For a contemporary audience, I mean, that 826 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,880 seems particularly egregious. 827 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,840 But that was common. 828 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,520 That was not the exception in 1939, 1940. 829 00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:21,799 That was the norm. 830 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,880 - So she's sitting in the back of the room, 831 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,440 she's nervous about the moment, and they called her name. 832 00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:29,559 - To Hattie McDaniel. 833 00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:32,439 [applause] 834 00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:35,239 - And she strolled up there majestically, 835 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,040 and from the first word in her acceptance speech 836 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:39,759 you can hear the quiver in her voice. 837 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,640 She's already choked up. 838 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,719 She's already in tears. 839 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,600 - Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science, 840 00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:49,639 fellow members of the motion picture industry, 841 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,399 and honored guests. 842 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,880 This is one of the happiest moments of my life. 843 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,280 And I want to thank each one of you who 844 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,120 had a part in selecting me for one of the awards. 845 00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:02,799 For your kindness, it has made me feel very, very humble. 846 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,880 - It brings a combination of pain and-- 847 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,960 and-- and joy, for what she went through. 848 00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:13,559 Even though she had to sit at the back of the room, 849 00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:15,759 she gets through that speech. 850 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,120 My heart pulls from many different directions 851 00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:20,079 because of that. 852 00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:23,159 - I sincerely hope I shall always be a credit to my race 853 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,439 and to the motion picture industry. 854 00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:28,199 My heart is too full to tell you just how I feel. 855 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,000 And may I say thank you, and God bless you. 856 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:34,039 [applause] 857 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,240 - She's the first Black person to win an Academy Award. 858 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:49,240 It would be many years before a second Black person 859 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,960 would win an Academy Award. 860 00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:53,199 To have a Black person recognized in this way 861 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,960 is significant, but at the same time, 862 00:37:57,039 --> 00:38:00,119 it's a situation where you're kind of weighing 863 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:04,759 the personal advancement and success 864 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,440 of Hattie McDaniel against the problematic nature of the 865 00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:09,959 role itself. 866 00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:13,239 - I'm grateful that she still has a place in history. 867 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,760 She's still being talked about. 868 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,360 She's still relevant. 869 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,320 There's still lessons to be learned from-- 870 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,680 from her story, from her life. 871 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,280 She was trying to make nuanced moves, as far as advancing 872 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,040 the Black performer. 873 00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:27,279 And I think this film, because it was the biggest 874 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,800 film at the time, was a perfect place 875 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,920 to start, as far as laying a foundation-- even 876 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,160 a small little victories-- as far 877 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,679 as the Black person, how they should be treated, 878 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,800 and how they should be viewed. 879 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,719 - Coming up, Hollywood's most belligerent director 880 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,720 reinvents the Western. 881 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,440 - Where do you think that short fuse came from? 882 00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:55,639 - Family trait. 883 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,479 If you think he's bad, you don't know me. 884 00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:02,359 [laughs] Many of the men in my family are cantankerous. 885 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,200 Many of the men in my family have short fuses. 886 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,360 Many of the men in my family are assholes. 887 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,119 - In 1939, Hollywood's most celebrated director, 888 00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:17,919 John Ford, was about to make a film that would 889 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,960 change cinematic history. 890 00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:23,319 - What's notable about 1939 is not just 891 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,840 they were great films, but they were great films 892 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,680 by great directors. 893 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,520 Some of the greatest directors in Hollywood history 894 00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:31,039 were making movies at that time, including, of course, 895 00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:36,039 John Ford, one of the greatest film artists who ever lived. 896 00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:37,039 - Two cameras? 897 00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:38,759 Jesus Christ. 898 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,600 Am I looking at you or am I looking at the camera? 899 00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:42,639 - You're looking at me. 900 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,599 - OK. - [inaudible] 901 00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:47,079 - Who was John Ford? 902 00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:48,679 In our family, you know, he was God. 903 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,600 He was the king. 904 00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:56,559 But to the larger community, he was respected, 905 00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:59,519 if not always liked. 906 00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:00,719 - To this day, he's probably the most honored 907 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,480 director in American pictures. 908 00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:07,999 He won, I think, six Oscars. 909 00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:09,639 I was asking Orson Welles who was the best 910 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,519 director he had worked with. 911 00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:14,879 Best directors are John Ford, John Ford, and John Ford. 912 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,320 With Ford at his best, you get a sense 913 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,120 of what the Earth is made of. 914 00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:23,239 - In 1939, his breakout year, he made four very successful 915 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,400 movies all in succession. 916 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,360 I can't name a director who has had such a good year. 917 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,480 - John Ford's biggest film of 1939 was "Stagecoach," 918 00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:38,079 but for an A-list director like him, making a Western 919 00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:39,439 was a strange choice. 920 00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:44,199 - Westerns had been so done in the silent era 921 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,840 that a lot of people were just kind of tired of them. 922 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,800 They were very popular with kids, 923 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,560 and they were very popular with-- with a rural, less 924 00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:52,719 sophisticated audience, and they were 925 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,440 looked down on by Hollywood. 926 00:40:56,519 --> 00:40:58,079 With the development of sound, Westerns 927 00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,919 were relegated to B-movies. 928 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,400 My father Pat had found this short story called "A Stage 929 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,240 to Lordsburg," and he said to my grandfather 930 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,720 at the dinner table, I think this would 931 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,760 make a pretty good movie. 932 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,920 So my grandfather read it, and he said, I think you're right. 933 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,320 - In 1939, John Ford introduced the world to a little-known 934 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,480 actor called John Wayne. 935 00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:24,359 - John Wayne was born with the name of Marion Morrison. 936 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,600 Now you know, if your name is Marion Morrison, 937 00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:28,679 you're going to change your name. 938 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,880 [horses whinnying] 939 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,640 - Hold it! 940 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,719 - The introduction to John Wayne in "Stagecoach" 941 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,120 is a very unusual shot for Ford, actually. 942 00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:40,759 The camera moves in from a medium 943 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,640 long shot to a close-up. 944 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,479 - And it's out of focus, too. 945 00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:46,799 And his cameraman told him, he said, 946 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,360 you know, I think I lost focus on that, Jack. 947 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,960 I think we ought to do it again. 948 00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:52,039 He said, no, leave it. 949 00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:53,799 You know, it-- it-- 950 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,960 people will notice it more. 951 00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,919 Most directors would have reshot it. 952 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,640 - Hello, Curley. 953 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,319 - It's announcing, this is going to be a big star, 954 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,160 and this is his introduction, and all 955 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,439 the rest of the shit he's done so far doesn't count. 956 00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:07,479 This is it. 957 00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:08,999 - Hiya, Buck. 958 00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:10,959 How's your folks? 959 00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:13,119 - Wayne worked on a lot of Ford films at Fox as a prop man, 960 00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:16,719 as a crew member, as a stunt man. 961 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,000 He was pretty well-known in the B-movie world. 962 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:20,719 And he was good-looking. 963 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,160 He was a ladies' man. 964 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,799 He was a man's man. 965 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,600 But nobody thought he was a serious actor. 966 00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:30,559 - Wayne was stuck doing cheap, low-budget 967 00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:32,519 Westerns for almost a decade. 968 00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:36,119 And I think Ford saw that he had potential as a star. 969 00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:37,719 [dramatic music] 970 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,360 And when Ford came to make "Stagecoach," 971 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,960 he decided he wanted to use John Wayne. 972 00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:43,759 And the studio, the producer, didn't 973 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,360 want him to use Wayne at all. 974 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,200 But Ford insisted. 975 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,760 - That's what "Stagecoach" did. 976 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,840 It showed him he could take the next step. 977 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,720 - Take it easy, Gatewood. 978 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,000 - Wayne became the biggest Western star in the world, 979 00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:57,799 actually, but it took a while. 980 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,200 - "Stagecoach" might have catapulted John Wayne 981 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,480 into stardom, but working with a director 982 00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:06,799 like John Ford wasn't always easy. 983 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,840 - John Ford's approach to filmmaking 984 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,720 was simplicity, KISS, keep it simple, stupid. 985 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:18,000 Know what you want, be on time, shoot it, move on. 986 00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:19,319 - I was just a kid. 987 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,240 I'd never been on the set before. 988 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,280 He was very difficult. He could be very tough on you. 989 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,640 He was intimidating, to say the least, thinking back on it. 990 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,399 I was scared shitless. 991 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,080 - Where do you think that short fuse came from? 992 00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:35,319 - Family trait. 993 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,360 If you think he's bad, you don't know me. 994 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,280 [laughs] Many of the men in my family are cantankerous. 995 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,200 Many of the men in my family have short fuses. 996 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:51,280 Many of the men in my family... 997 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,600 are assholes. 998 00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:56,039 Ford could be rough, particularly 999 00:43:56,119 --> 00:43:58,999 with a young action guy like John 1000 00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:02,959 Wayne, who was not well-trained in, you know, 1001 00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:05,119 the theatrical arts. 1002 00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:06,759 Ford would taunt Wayne. 1003 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,800 He says, oh, can't you walk like a cowboy? 1004 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,160 You're skipping like a fairy. 1005 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,079 What are you doing? 1006 00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:14,799 You know, when you grab the woman, you know, grab her. 1007 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,720 Don't grab her like you're afraid of her, 1008 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,200 grab her like you love her. 1009 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,160 - John Ford's difficult personality was also 1010 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,879 putting him at odds with the studio 1011 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,880 who were paying for the film. 1012 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,240 To keep his production away from studio interference, 1013 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,560 Ford decided to shoot at a location 500 miles 1014 00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:37,719 away from Hollywood, in a desert 1015 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,760 1,500 meters above sea level. 1016 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,080 - "Stagecoach" was the first film shot in Monument Valley. 1017 00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:46,519 [dramatic music] 1018 00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:48,719 And "Stagecoach" has some wonderful scenes there. 1019 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,360 It's visually stunning. 1020 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,400 It's very majestic. 1021 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,600 It's very open. 1022 00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:56,759 It's very unique. 1023 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,240 - It's an extraordinary location. 1024 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,000 He did about seven films in Monument Valley. 1025 00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:02,919 - Ford liked it because he could go there 1026 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,880 and nobody would bother him. 1027 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,640 He's in control. 1028 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,959 Nobody had ever used it because it's so hard to get to. 1029 00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:12,759 It's one of the most remote places in the United States. 1030 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,280 - "Stagecoach" features one of the most impressive 1031 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,800 chase scenes in film history, which set the bar 1032 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,360 for all future Westerns. 1033 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,320 - The climax of "Stagecoach" is an extraordinary Indian attack 1034 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:29,200 on the stagecoach as it races across the plain. 1035 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,920 It's done at great speed and at great risk, 1036 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,280 and it has wonderful stunts, and it has wonderful falls, 1037 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,120 wonderful shooting, people falling off horses, 1038 00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:42,679 and people running out of ammunition. 1039 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,960 [gunshots] 1040 00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:48,319 - Because all those shots are real. 1041 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,120 It's very well-shot and very well-edited. 1042 00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:53,919 - There's one sequence where John Wayne fires one shot 1043 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,840 and about seven guys go down. 1044 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,800 - That great stunt that, uh, Yakima Canutt does, 1045 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,440 he wouldn't let John Wayne do that shot. 1046 00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:06,439 That'd be too dangerous. 1047 00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:09,719 [dramatic music] 1048 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,720 - The stuntman playing the Indian jumps 1049 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,320 onto the lead horse, and Wayne shoots him. 1050 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,560 And he's hanging on, and Wayne shoots him again. 1051 00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:22,039 And he falls, and he has to lie absolutely still, 1052 00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:25,079 and he keeps his elbows in real tight 1053 00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:27,079 because there's only about three feet of clearance. 1054 00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:30,919 And he said the horses have to be going fast, and absolutely straigh 1055 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,120 and they were. 1056 00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:33,039 [dramatic music] 1057 00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:37,199 But it was a very daring stunt. 1058 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,720 They probably paid him an extra $50 for it, you know? 1059 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,720 - But the chase scene has a brutal backstory. 1060 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,600 - They used a technique that's outlawed today. 1061 00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:49,199 You can't do it. 1062 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,080 It's called a running W. And a running W is, 1063 00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:55,479 you shackle a horse's two front legs together, 1064 00:46:55,559 --> 00:47:00,799 and you tie a rope to those two front legs. 1065 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,560 The end of the rope goes into a stake in the ground, 1066 00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:05,439 and you get the horse to run all out. 1067 00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:08,679 And when the horse runs out the line of wire, boom, 1068 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,520 he goes down. 1069 00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:12,199 And it usually kills the horse. 1070 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,000 - While "Stagecoach" was a huge success, to modern eyes 1071 00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:18,319 it's also a difficult film to watch, 1072 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,600 because it perpetuates a stereotype 1073 00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:22,399 of savage Native Americans. 1074 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,600 - One of the most problematic aspects of "Stagecoach" 1075 00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:27,799 is its racial representation. 1076 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,200 Gorgeous images of Monument Valley 1077 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:34,480 are suddenly disrupted by ominous music 1078 00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:37,599 and threatening images of the Native Americans. 1079 00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:39,239 We're left in no doubt that these 1080 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,160 are the villains of the film. 1081 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,079 - But on "Stagecoach," the Navajo actors got their own back. 1082 00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:46,479 - Ford would be the first one to admit 1083 00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:52,799 that we treated the Native Americans, the Indians, badly. 1084 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,960 They had a lot of Indian dialogue scenes 1085 00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:56,759 that were cut out. 1086 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,040 The Navajos knew that nobody but them spoke Navajo, 1087 00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:02,359 so they would be saying in Navajo, 1088 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,640 you know, this movie really sucks. 1089 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,759 You know, John Ford is an asshole, 1090 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,520 and all these outrageous things, all this profanity, 1091 00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:10,199 and nobody knew. 1092 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,720 - Coming up, Hollywood censors clamp 1093 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,040 down on sex and violence. 1094 00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:17,919 - One of the things people may have noticed 1095 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,600 is that sometimes very early talkies are a lot 1096 00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:22,119 more, I don't know, saucy. 1097 00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:23,839 A lot more dangerous. 1098 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,360 - So a prime example would be "Tarzan and His Mate," 1099 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,080 where you get to see a nude swimming sequence, 1100 00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:32,319 a post-coital sequence as well, that even to our eyes 1101 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,160 today is quite exciting. 1102 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:41,279 - Tarzan, you're a bad boy. 1103 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,200 - In 1939, Hollywood was ruled by censors determined 1104 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,720 to cut depictions of sex, violence, 1105 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,160 and crime from the movies. 1106 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,999 But this wasn't always the case. 1107 00:48:58,079 --> 00:49:00,879 Just a few years earlier, films reflected 1108 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,880 much more liberal attitudes. 1109 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,480 - Sometimes very early talkies are a lot more, I don't know, 1110 00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:12,239 saucy, a lot more dangerous, a lot more ambiguous, 1111 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,640 a lot more challenging than later golden-age Hollywood 1112 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,759 movies in terms of sexual license and things like that, 1113 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,560 in silent movies even more so. 1114 00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:25,519 - So a prime example of a film that even to our eyes today 1115 00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:29,559 is quite exciting-- 1116 00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:30,999 - Tarzan! 1117 00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:33,159 - --would be "Tarzan and His Mate." 1118 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,199 The characters' costumes are pretty revealing. 1119 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,360 You get to see a nude swimming sequence, 1120 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,200 a post-coital sequence as well, where Tarzan and Jane are sort of 1121 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,640 relaxing together, clearly having 1122 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:48,639 just had fun, shall we say. 1123 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,359 - Tarzan, you're a bad boy 1124 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,440 - And also a really interesting scene whereby Jane 1125 00:49:56,519 --> 00:49:59,679 decides to change her clothes and nips into a tent, 1126 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,640 which is backlit so you can see her removing 1127 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:03,959 her clothes in silhouette. 1128 00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:05,319 - Need any help? 1129 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,760 - Do you always help ladies to dress? 1130 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,800 - When they're lovely enough. 1131 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,800 - But by 1939, Hollywood censors 1132 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,400 had imposed the Production Code, a strict set of rules 1133 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,120 that all but eliminated sex, violence, 1134 00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:21,559 and crime from the movies. 1135 00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:23,879 - His Production Code, voluntarily adopted 1136 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,400 by all major producers, has been law 1137 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,760 to Hollywood's movie makers. 1138 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,640 - The Production Code was finally implemented 1139 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,759 in order to placate the religious right, 1140 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,120 particularly Catholics. 1141 00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:37,519 Hollywood was faced with two choices. 1142 00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:41,199 It could either capitulate to these external groups, 1143 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,320 and possibly to government censorship, 1144 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,280 or it could self-censor. 1145 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,800 And it decided to self-censor so that it could maintain 1146 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,600 its commercial viability. 1147 00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:54,319 - The Code prevented the mention of, for example, 1148 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,240 mixed-race marriages. 1149 00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,640 There was absolutely to be no mention of homosexuality. 1150 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,399 - Famously, married couples didn't sleep in double beds. 1151 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,480 They had two single beds. 1152 00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:08,999 - Religion mustn't be mocked. 1153 00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:11,279 Crime must be seen to not pay. 1154 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,200 People must be punished. 1155 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,480 - The first time a lavatory was ever shown to be used 1156 00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:16,079 was in "Psycho." 1157 00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:18,559 [toilet flushing] 1158 00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:21,559 - You couldn't portray excessive or lustful kissing. 1159 00:51:21,639 --> 00:51:26,359 That would work the audience into too much of a frenzy. 1160 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,360 - You would think that that would mean all films became 1161 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,040 much more staid and moralistic, but actually what happens 1162 00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:38,679 is, filmmakers find ways to use suggestion to create 1163 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,480 situations that sophisticated audiences, at least, 1164 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:44,439 will understand. 1165 00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:46,879 - This is one night you're not turning me out. 1166 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,280 - A prominent example would be "Gone with the Wind," 1167 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,760 when Rhett Butler carries Scarlett O'Hara up the stairs, 1168 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,440 and there's a fade-out. 1169 00:51:56,519 --> 00:52:01,159 And the next morning, we fade in on Scarlett in bed, 1170 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,319 seemingly very happy. 1171 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,120 And I think adult audiences know what happened in 1172 00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:11,439 between those two scenes, but nothing 1173 00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:17,319 is said directly about it, and nothing is shown. 1174 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,600 - But "Gone with the Wind" was not immune to the censors, 1175 00:52:20,679 --> 00:52:22,719 and producer David O. Selznick came 1176 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,160 up against them over one of the film's most famous lines. 1177 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,159 - Where shall I go? 1178 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,279 What shall I do? 1179 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:34,880 - Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. 1180 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,480 - The word damn was in the book of forbidden words, 1181 00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:40,639 as far as the censor's eye was concerned. 1182 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,039 Now, David O. Selznick was absolutely 1183 00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:45,959 determined to have the line, and he fought tooth and nail. 1184 00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:48,359 But I've got a list here of some of the suggestions 1185 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,520 that the office and various other people offered as-- 1186 00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:55,119 as an alternative. 1187 00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:58,359 "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a hoot." 1188 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,520 That doesn't sound very Civil War, does it? 1189 00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:04,479 "Frankly, my dear, it is of no consequence." 1190 00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:07,399 "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a continental." 1191 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,920 What does that mean? 1192 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,720 They did actually record "Frankly, my dear, 1193 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,360 I don't care," but Selznick himself had come up 1194 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,400 with the line, don't give a damn, 1195 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,440 and he absolutely fought for it. 1196 00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:19,639 And he got it, so it stayed in. 1197 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,199 But it did-- didn't exactly cause 1198 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,440 people to faint in the cinema rows, 1199 00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:28,479 but it was shocking enough. 1200 00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:32,399 - The Production Code didn't just apply to bad language, 1201 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,480 sex, and violence. 1202 00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:36,879 The censors also went for films that were 1203 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,200 critical of American politics. 1204 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,600 - The Production Code, you know, 1205 00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:42,079 wasn't just about telling you what 1206 00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:43,159 you could and couldn't do. 1207 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,959 You had to submit your scripts. 1208 00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:46,479 In the case of "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington," 1209 00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:49,319 the Frank Capra, James Stewart film, there was a lot of, 1210 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,840 oh, maybe you can't make this. 1211 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,120 Maybe it's representing America as a place 1212 00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:54,679 with corrupt politics. 1213 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,520 - Director Capra has drawn on the almost 1214 00:53:56,599 --> 00:53:58,159 untouched wealth of story material 1215 00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,719 on the national political scene. 1216 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,800 - The whole point of the Production Code 1217 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,040 was, films mustn't engage with anything offensive. 1218 00:54:06,119 --> 00:54:09,519 When they read the script for "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington," 1219 00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:12,639 their concern is, this is politically controversial. 1220 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,119 - It might inflame revolutionaries 1221 00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:17,599 and people who want to bring the system down, you know. 1222 00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:20,359 So there was this kind of almost Stalinist way 1223 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,400 of vetting a script. 1224 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,000 - But Frank Capra was a powerful director. 1225 00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:27,759 He was not so easily reined in. 1226 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,800 - Mr. James Taylor came down here and offered me 1227 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,760 a seat in this Senate for the next 20 years, 1228 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,680 if I voted for a dam that he knew, and I knew, was a fraud. 1229 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,080 But if I dared to open my mouth against that dam, 1230 00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:39,759 he promised to break me in two. 1231 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,120 - Jimmy Stewart is an idealistic young senator 1232 00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:46,119 and is distraught to be confronted with corruption 1233 00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:47,879 in American politics. 1234 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,960 - More disturbing in the film is 1235 00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:52,719 when Jimmy Stewart's character, Jefferson Smith, 1236 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,280 tries to get his own story out. 1237 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,760 He uses a kind of Boy Scout organization 1238 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,720 to distribute leaflets, and then 1239 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,840 they're attacked by mobs organized 1240 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,800 by the industrialists. 1241 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,160 - Well, what are you standing there for? 1242 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,759 Get the boys out. Kill it! 1243 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,360 - Yes, sir. 1244 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,680 - There's this idea that there is actually 1245 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,400 a kind of fascist force in America 1246 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,080 that's doing away with free speech, 1247 00:55:17,159 --> 00:55:21,719 and it's determined to maintain its hold on the U.S. government. 1248 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,440 It did cause a lot of offense. 1249 00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:26,359 You can imagine in Washington, D.C., 1250 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,560 they didn't like it at all. 1251 00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:30,519 It was a really daring film for 1939. 1252 00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:33,399 It's a pretty outspoken, revelatory film, 1253 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,160 even by today's standards. 1254 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,799 - The Production Code also insisted that Hollywood 1255 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,600 didn't offend other countries. 1256 00:55:41,679 --> 00:55:42,719 - And the reason they didn't want 1257 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,720 to offend any international governments 1258 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,760 was not because that was "wrong," but because it was 1259 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,800 commercially stupid, because then you couldn't 1260 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,520 sell your movies in the country of 1261 00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:52,119 that international government. 1262 00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:53,399 - To make sure that they didn't cause offense, 1263 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,680 they would send the script to the embassy 1264 00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,680 of the country involved. 1265 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,720 - But Hollywood was happy to make exceptions to the rule 1266 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,520 when it suited them. 1267 00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:06,799 Russia didn't buy American movies, 1268 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,520 and so films like Greta Garbo's "Ninotchka" 1269 00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:13,879 were free to directly criticize the Soviet regime. 1270 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:19,560 - Greta Garbo plays a Russian official who is sent to Paris 1271 00:56:19,639 --> 00:56:22,319 on a government mission, and she 1272 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:28,720 is the most drab and humorless official you can imagine. 1273 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,280 - But you must admit that this doomed old 1274 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,680 civilization sparkles. 1275 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,000 Look at it. 1276 00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:34,959 It glitters. 1277 00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:37,399 - I do not deny its beauty, but it's a waste of electricity. 1278 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,160 - What a city! 1279 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:45,319 - Paris represents the West as a place of bounty. 1280 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,880 It's a place where people are wealthy. 1281 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,080 They live fairly frivolous lives. 1282 00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:54,279 - You mean Leon's bringing the Bolshevik you told us about? 1283 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,240 - Isn't it divine? 1284 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,760 - I wouldn't have missed this for anything in the world. 1285 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,800 - By contrast, Russia is a strikingly poor country. 1286 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,800 It's politically oppressive. 1287 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,000 - Comrades of the world, never has there been 1288 00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:08,199 such a May Day parade as this! 1289 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,600 - The studios felt absolutely confident 1290 00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:14,719 in portraying Russia and communism this way, 1291 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,600 because Russia didn't import American movies. 1292 00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:19,559 And so there was nothing for them to lose. 1293 00:57:19,639 --> 00:57:20,839 - Very consciously, the movie is 1294 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,800 about a fight between communism and capitalism, 1295 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,640 and because of sex, and a hat that she loves, 1296 00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:28,439 which is absolutely ridiculous today. 1297 00:57:28,519 --> 00:57:29,919 - What's that? 1298 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,720 - It's a hat, comrade, a woman's hat. 1299 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,440 - How can such a civilization survive 1300 00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:35,679 which permits their women to put things 1301 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,400 like that on their heads? 1302 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,960 - The hat kind of stands in for all of the glamour, 1303 00:57:41,039 --> 00:57:46,199 and all of the luxury, and all of the sensuousness of Paris. 1304 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,080 She's seduced by a man, and then 1305 00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:57,519 she's seduced by capitalism. 1306 00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:02,959 So basically, sex brings down the Soviet Union in "Ninotchka." 1307 00:58:03,039 --> 00:58:04,679 And Hollywood was happy to do that, 1308 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,240 because they weren't selling films to the Soviet Union. 1309 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,440 - Coming up, shockingly, there was 1310 00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:16,679 one country that Hollywood was happy to cozy up to in 1939. 1311 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,240 - They were still trying to make movies 1312 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,240 that wouldn't offend Hitler. 1313 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,120 - [speaking German] 1314 00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:23,879 - They stopped making movies with overtly 1315 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,640 Jewish characters. 1316 00:58:25,719 --> 00:58:29,759 They stopped using the word Jew in their scripts. 1317 00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:35,959 - As 1939 came to an end, the world was becoming 1318 00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:36,999 a very different place. 1319 00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:41,279 - [speaking German] 1320 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,160 - While Europe was suffering some of the darkest months 1321 00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:47,759 in its history, Hollywood was enjoying incredible success 1322 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,920 and looking the other way. 1323 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,200 - The Hollywood studios were faced with a problem, 1324 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,440 which was that America was officially neutral 1325 00:58:55,519 --> 00:58:57,599 and was trying to stay out of the war. 1326 00:58:57,679 --> 00:58:59,839 The classical Hollywood system was always 1327 00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:02,080 trying to please everybody. 1328 00:59:02,159 --> 00:59:05,319 That was kind of its commercial model. 1329 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,360 That meant that they steered very clear of anything that 1330 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,240 could be controversial, anything that could 1331 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,160 be seen as too political. 1332 00:59:11,239 --> 00:59:14,319 - But remarkably, Hollywood studios did more than just 1333 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,720 ignore the rise of fascism and the specter of war. 1334 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,000 - One of the most shocking things that recent historians 1335 00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:25,279 have uncovered, in fact, is the degree to which the Hollywood 1336 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,960 studio moguls were putting commercial interests 1337 00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:31,039 above political or even moral interests. 1338 00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:34,399 As late as 1939, they were inviting 1339 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,680 Nazi "ambassadors," representatives, for goodwill 1340 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,120 tours of the major studios. 1341 00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:40,959 They were still trying to make movies 1342 00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:42,239 that wouldn't offend Hitler. 1343 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,360 They were trying to make movies that 1344 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,280 wouldn't offend Mussolini. 1345 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,840 They stopped making movies with overtly Jewish characters. 1346 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,240 They stopped using the word Jew in their scripts. 1347 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,080 So there was this attempt to curry commercial favor 1348 00:59:57,159 --> 00:59:58,879 with the fascists. 1349 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,400 - Hollywood's unwillingness to explicitly deal with 1350 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,000 anti-Semitism feels even more ironic when we remember that 1351 01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:08,359 many of the studio heads were themselves 1352 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,560 Jewish and came from Eastern European backgrounds. 1353 01:00:12,639 --> 01:00:13,999 - It's an unpalatable truth, but there was 1354 01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:17,639 an awful lot of right-wing feeling within America as well. 1355 01:00:17,719 --> 01:00:19,919 You know, a lot of Americans supported Hitler. 1356 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,640 A lot of Americans had a real sort of right-wing bent. 1357 01:00:23,719 --> 01:00:27,319 - Hitler has said America could be conquered from within. 1358 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,360 - Astonishingly, in 1939, 20,000 Nazis 1359 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,360 gathered for a rally at Madison Square Garden. 1360 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,240 - They had soldiers in the aisles 1361 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:38,480 that they called stormtroopers, 1362 01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:41,919 and they had speakers echoing the language 1363 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,840 of Hitler and Goebbels. 1364 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,080 The film footage from that night is absolutely chilling. 1365 01:00:48,159 --> 01:00:50,519 You cannot believe that you're not looking at a Nuremberg 1366 01:00:50,599 --> 01:00:53,519 rally, and that you are looking at Madison Square Garden 1367 01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:57,639 in New York in 1939. 1368 01:00:57,719 --> 01:01:00,279 - But with the Nazi threat at home and abroad, 1369 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,200 one studio decided to put morality 1370 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,680 before money and make a film that 1371 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,120 was explicitly anti-fascist. 1372 01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:12,959 - By 1939, Hitler had been in power for six years. 1373 01:01:13,039 --> 01:01:16,199 And for years before that, Nazi stormtroopers, Brownshirts, 1374 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,000 had been marching up and down the streets 1375 01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:20,319 and had been in the newsreels. 1376 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,600 So, you know, for 10 years, people 1377 01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:23,879 had been aware of Nazism. 1378 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,080 But-- but Hollywood had never covered it, really. 1379 01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:29,199 It was only the Warner Brothers who instantly 1380 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,840 saw the threat of Nazism. 1381 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,680 They were Jewish, the brothers Warner, 1382 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,960 but so were the other heads of studio. 1383 01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:38,239 - Warner Brothers ignored the Production Code and its 1384 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,720 competitors to make the first explicit anti-Nazi film, 1385 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,040 "Confessions of a Nazi Spy." 1386 01:01:44,119 --> 01:01:45,399 - But even then, it was a closed set, as it's called. 1387 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,760 It was secret. 1388 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,080 No one knew what the film was called, 1389 01:01:49,159 --> 01:01:51,759 and the Nazi insignia was sort of 1390 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,560 hidden from anybody looking. 1391 01:01:53,639 --> 01:01:55,479 - The national feelings clause of the Code 1392 01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:57,199 said that countries must be treated fairly. 1393 01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,080 You couldn't write fictions that seemed 1394 01:02:01,159 --> 01:02:02,439 to be exposés of countries. 1395 01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:07,199 So what they did was use the transcripts of a trial. 1396 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,440 - Charged with the crime of espionage 1397 01:02:08,519 --> 01:02:10,879 against the armed forces of the United States. 1398 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,200 - In which real Nazi spies were found operating in New York, 1399 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,600 and therefore they could say, this is factual. 1400 01:02:17,679 --> 01:02:21,759 Yes, we're dramatizing it, but this really did happen. 1401 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,320 - Schneider offers his services as a Nazi spy, 1402 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,880 addressing his letter to Hitler's personal newspaper. 1403 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,040 - Hollywood tales of espionage traditionally centered 1404 01:02:30,119 --> 01:02:32,319 on the romantic figure of the spy. 1405 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,680 What"Confessions of a Nazi Spy" does 1406 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:39,320 is situate its story in a far grittier environment. 1407 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:44,760 Street corners, back rooms, dingy apartment buildings. 1408 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,720 - For hours, Renard caters to Schneider's inflated vanity, 1409 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,200 skillfully leading him on to give 1410 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,160 an account of his meetings with Nazi spy contacts. 1411 01:02:51,239 --> 01:02:54,199 - "Confessions of a Nazi Spy" emphasiz 1412 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:58,320 its factual basis by having a "March of Time"-style narrator. 1413 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,200 - Nazi propaganda printed in huge quantities. 1414 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,520 - The newsreel style of narration. 1415 01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:05,839 - Carefully devised to fit the official German concept 1416 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,880 of mass stupidity. 1417 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,200 - Conveying that this is news, this is what really happened. 1418 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,640 It portrays the militarism of Nazism very vividly. 1419 01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:18,119 - I say that we must unite all those of German blood 1420 01:03:18,199 --> 01:03:22,039 to believe in the German destiny of America! 1421 01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:26,559 - We see a Nazi rally where there are swastikas on flags 1422 01:03:26,639 --> 01:03:28,519 all around the room. 1423 01:03:28,599 --> 01:03:32,679 There are German-Americans wearing Nazi uniforms. 1424 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:33,800 - Our America! 1425 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,840 [together] Sieg Heil! 1426 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,880 - It was the first movie to show Nazi insignia. 1427 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,640 - Groucho Marx was impressed. 1428 01:03:41,719 --> 01:03:43,439 Said that, you know, Warner's was the only studio 1429 01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:45,359 with any guts, because they were the only ones 1430 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,120 who had done that. 1431 01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:49,759 - Nazi sympathizers picketed cinemas, slashed seats, 1432 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,760 and threatened exhibitors. 1433 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,680 One cinema in Milwaukee was even burned down for screening 1434 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,720 "Confessions of a Nazi Spy." 1435 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:03,280 - "Confessions of a Nazi Spy" is the first Hollywood anti-Nazi 1436 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,320 film, and in that respect, it opens 1437 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:10,800 the door for so many films that follow in its footsteps. 1438 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,960 But I think it sets up a lot of the stereotypes around Nazism 1439 01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:16,519 that will be used in later films, 1440 01:04:16,599 --> 01:04:22,519 the militarism, the doggedness, the snarling vehemence 1441 01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:24,439 of the Nazi characters. 1442 01:04:24,519 --> 01:04:29,159 Those tropes survive well into the war 1443 01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:33,839 - Despite the Nazi threat, for the studios in 1939, 1444 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,520 it seemed like the good times would never end. 1445 01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:41,199 But just two years later, America entered the war. 1446 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,280 - 1939 was really a perfect moment in Hollywood, 1447 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:48,800 because it was this peak point where everything's fallen 1448 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,840 into place, everyone knows what they're doing, 1449 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,880 and the war hasn't come yet. 1450 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,320 Because I think the war really spoils the mood in Hollywood. 1451 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,760 - The movies would never again recapture the energy, 1452 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,960 excitement, and magic of 1939. 1453 01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:06,559 - 1939 was a great year for the Hollywood studios. 1454 01:05:06,639 --> 01:05:07,879 They were factories. 1455 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,400 They were just humming. 1456 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,520 - Hollywood's golden year had produced 1457 01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:13,799 a staggering number of films. 1458 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,120 - It's the year, really, where you get to see the Hollywood 1459 01:05:17,199 --> 01:05:20,679 studio system at its height, the real big hitters, 1460 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,640 some absolutely amazing films that go on to be 1461 01:05:22,719 --> 01:05:24,359 superb classics. 1462 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:29,120 - From stars to scandals, from yellow brick roads 1463 01:05:29,199 --> 01:05:30,879 to Southern belles, this was a year 1464 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,160 that no one would ever forget. 1465 01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:37,399 - 1939 was the greatest year in Hollywood history. 1466 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,960 It was the point at which they just suddenly hit their stride 1467 01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:44,359 and produced just one classic film after another. 1468 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,600 - A year that left an extraordinary lasting legacy 1469 01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:50,279 on movie history. 1470 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:51,760 - 1939 is everything that Hollywood 1471 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,040 stood for, both good and bad. 1472 01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:57,799 But it did produce gold. 1473 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,800 I'm not saying that, you know, you should only watch 1474 01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,400 classic movies of that period. 1475 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,680 That would be absurd. 1476 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,320 But the ones that are worth watching, my goodness, 1477 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:06,760 they're worth watching. 1478 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,600 [applause] 1479 01:06:08,679 --> 01:06:12,399 [upbeat music] 1480 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:18,480 ♪ ♪ 111361

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