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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,982 --> 00:00:04,815 (Multicom Jingle) 2 00:00:12,067 --> 00:00:15,381 - Oh yeah, the black presence on TV 3 00:00:15,381 --> 00:00:18,300 has changed America forever. 4 00:00:18,300 --> 00:00:20,075 Just start subtracting black from TV 5 00:00:20,075 --> 00:00:23,354 and then you tell me, think of TV without In Living Color. 6 00:00:23,354 --> 00:00:25,958 Think of Saturday Night Live without Eddie Murphy. 7 00:00:25,958 --> 00:00:28,770 Think of television without Flip Wilson. 8 00:00:28,770 --> 00:00:30,702 Let's start subtracting, let's think about TV without 9 00:00:30,702 --> 00:00:32,790 Bill Cosby or Fat Albert and His Boys. 10 00:00:32,790 --> 00:00:36,380 Think about TV music without Quincy's themes Mod Squad. 11 00:00:36,380 --> 00:00:38,785 (retro 70s music) 12 00:00:38,785 --> 00:00:39,979 The Bill Cosby Show. 13 00:00:39,979 --> 00:00:40,931 - What are you gonna do for us this evening? 14 00:00:40,931 --> 00:00:44,515 Are you gonna sing or you gonna play the xylophone? 15 00:00:44,515 --> 00:00:46,341 - Sanford and Son. 16 00:00:46,341 --> 00:00:49,099 Think of TV without Redd Foxx. 17 00:00:49,099 --> 00:00:51,411 Think of TV without George Jefferson. 18 00:00:51,411 --> 00:00:54,951 Think of TV without Good Times and then what you got? 19 00:00:54,951 --> 00:00:56,225 You know what you got then? 20 00:00:56,225 --> 00:01:00,829 (voice echoes) (calm hip hop music) 21 00:01:00,829 --> 00:01:03,746 (explosion blasts) 22 00:01:06,765 --> 00:01:08,164 - [Radio Announcer] From the primitive rock crystal 23 00:01:08,164 --> 00:01:11,711 of yesterday's radio is the crystal ball of television 24 00:01:11,711 --> 00:01:15,267 in which is visible a whole new era of communication. 25 00:01:15,267 --> 00:01:18,100 (calm jazz music) 26 00:01:19,984 --> 00:01:22,088 - [Narrator] The first 50 years of television in black 27 00:01:22,088 --> 00:01:24,359 has been a sometimes strange dance 28 00:01:24,359 --> 00:01:26,783 of images across the TV screen, 29 00:01:26,783 --> 00:01:30,700 stereotyped, sanitized and sometimes idealized. 30 00:01:32,210 --> 00:01:34,252 Often examined for deeper meaning 31 00:01:34,252 --> 00:01:37,152 than just entertainment, black images on television 32 00:01:37,152 --> 00:01:39,545 changed the performers and the viewers by illuminating 33 00:01:39,545 --> 00:01:43,545 the funny, dramatic and musical soul of America. 34 00:01:45,019 --> 00:01:46,826 - You wouldn't be able to talk about American culture 35 00:01:46,826 --> 00:01:49,390 without talking about many of these African American figures 36 00:01:49,390 --> 00:01:52,270 you couldn't talk about popular culture in my mind 37 00:01:52,270 --> 00:01:56,520 without talking about Louis Armstrong for instance. 38 00:01:58,359 --> 00:02:02,651 You couldn't talk about the idea of being hip or cool 39 00:02:02,651 --> 00:02:05,704 without talking about Duke Ellington and Miles Davis 40 00:02:05,704 --> 00:02:09,007 you know so we have to recognize this. 41 00:02:09,007 --> 00:02:12,174 (radio static buzzes) 42 00:02:13,842 --> 00:02:16,417 - [Narrator] In the 30s and 40s, radio ruled the airwaves 43 00:02:16,417 --> 00:02:18,273 and the excitement of hearing live bands, 44 00:02:18,273 --> 00:02:21,233 radio dramas and comedies brought families together 45 00:02:21,233 --> 00:02:25,858 to sit and listen, soon it would to gather and watch. 46 00:02:25,858 --> 00:02:27,545 - There was no such thing as television 47 00:02:27,545 --> 00:02:29,487 and radio we'd sit around when I was a kid 48 00:02:29,487 --> 00:02:32,039 and we'd listen to Amos 'n Andy 49 00:02:32,039 --> 00:02:33,986 and we'd listen to all these shows and Beulah, 50 00:02:33,986 --> 00:02:37,156 and all these people were white because it was economical. 51 00:02:37,156 --> 00:02:38,559 They didn't want to hire blacks. 52 00:02:38,559 --> 00:02:40,587 You have to be remember this. 53 00:02:40,587 --> 00:02:42,507 - [Announcer] You will find that you are tuned in 54 00:02:42,507 --> 00:02:45,090 on today and focus on tomorrow. 55 00:02:47,454 --> 00:02:48,692 - [Narrator] Go back when television was only 56 00:02:48,692 --> 00:02:51,841 black and white, ask people of a certain age. 57 00:02:51,841 --> 00:02:54,671 They can pinpoint the very first person of color 58 00:02:54,671 --> 00:02:58,110 they saw on those tiny 12 inch screens. 59 00:02:58,110 --> 00:03:00,769 - Ike, come in come in quick, there's a black on TV. 60 00:03:00,769 --> 00:03:02,829 There's somebody black on television. 61 00:03:02,829 --> 00:03:05,268 - When we would see any kind of black person 62 00:03:05,268 --> 00:03:08,127 doing anything on television, hey here's one, 63 00:03:08,127 --> 00:03:10,482 come here, come here, come here, oh it's gone, 64 00:03:10,482 --> 00:03:13,707 oh please who was it, I don't know know it was too fast. 65 00:03:13,707 --> 00:03:17,207 - I was really struck by William Marshall, 66 00:03:19,072 --> 00:03:20,822 Lena Horn, Rochester. 67 00:03:22,969 --> 00:03:25,726 ♪ Life's full of consequence ♪ 68 00:03:25,726 --> 00:03:28,725 ♪ But who's scared of consequence ♪ 69 00:03:28,725 --> 00:03:31,643 - And of course we're talking about and Ethel Waters. 70 00:03:31,643 --> 00:03:33,976 ♪ Am I blue ♪ 71 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,555 - Ethel Waters and Louise Beavers on the Beulah Show 72 00:03:39,555 --> 00:03:41,990 and it was like a moment, of course we all 73 00:03:41,990 --> 00:03:44,546 gathered around the TV because the Beulah Show was on. 74 00:03:44,546 --> 00:03:47,569 - Beulah and I think it might have been 75 00:03:47,569 --> 00:03:49,901 Louise Beavers who played her. 76 00:03:49,901 --> 00:03:51,978 - Well I like that. 77 00:03:51,978 --> 00:03:54,646 ♪ Unforgettable ♪ 78 00:03:55,881 --> 00:03:58,872 - The first person of color that I saw on television 79 00:03:58,872 --> 00:04:01,122 was probably Nat King Cole. 80 00:04:02,047 --> 00:04:05,501 ♪ Little girl, you're the one girl for me ♪ 81 00:04:05,501 --> 00:04:07,037 ♪ Little girl ♪ 82 00:04:07,037 --> 00:04:10,510 - Nat Cole, my vivid recollection was Nat Cole, 83 00:04:10,510 --> 00:04:12,102 because he was like one of the black guys, 84 00:04:12,102 --> 00:04:13,931 he was the only black guy on television. 85 00:04:13,931 --> 00:04:18,329 ♪ Pretend you're happy when you're blue ♪ 86 00:04:18,329 --> 00:04:21,393 And he did things that you just dreamt of doing, 87 00:04:21,393 --> 00:04:24,696 so the fact that he was there proved that you could do it. 88 00:04:24,696 --> 00:04:27,004 ♪ Just you ♪ 89 00:04:27,004 --> 00:04:29,069 ♪ Just me ♪ 90 00:04:29,069 --> 00:04:34,069 (trumpet fanfare music) (crowd claps) 91 00:04:35,266 --> 00:04:39,683 - Buckwheat from the Our Gang series, Little Rascals. 92 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:44,932 - Wow, I think we're going back to the days 93 00:04:44,932 --> 00:04:47,467 where you had to wait till that tube heated up 94 00:04:47,467 --> 00:04:51,132 for the television to work, but I think my first memories 95 00:04:51,132 --> 00:04:55,296 of ever seeing blacks on television were The Little Rascals 96 00:04:55,296 --> 00:04:58,407 Our Gang with Buckwheat and Cotton and the little boy 97 00:04:58,407 --> 00:05:01,793 whose name was Stymie who never said a word. 98 00:05:01,793 --> 00:05:04,054 He wore that hat and a suit 99 00:05:04,054 --> 00:05:05,848 and what I later learned in life 100 00:05:05,848 --> 00:05:08,860 was that they edited out a lot of what he said 101 00:05:08,860 --> 00:05:12,382 because they felt that Stymie was too articulate 102 00:05:12,382 --> 00:05:14,465 and I think that that really had an impact on me 103 00:05:14,465 --> 00:05:16,899 as I got older and became a running her mouth 104 00:05:16,899 --> 00:05:21,111 kind of girl on TV that nobody would stymie me. 105 00:05:21,111 --> 00:05:22,916 I'm not gonna be stymied. 106 00:05:22,916 --> 00:05:24,332 - And away we go! 107 00:05:26,651 --> 00:05:29,570 - Sammy Davis Jr. and I think it was probably 108 00:05:29,570 --> 00:05:31,967 an appearance on a variety show, 109 00:05:31,967 --> 00:05:33,885 you know it's such a thrill I really mean this 110 00:05:33,885 --> 00:05:35,892 and it's kind of an opportunity for me too 111 00:05:35,892 --> 00:05:37,218 ladies and gentleman. - Well Sammy Davis Jr. 112 00:05:37,218 --> 00:05:39,968 was the first black cowboy on TV. 113 00:05:42,082 --> 00:05:45,375 - Sammy Davis was woo, I mean he was with the 114 00:05:45,375 --> 00:05:48,359 Will Mastin Trio, he and his dad and his uncle. 115 00:05:48,359 --> 00:05:52,702 ♪ This is the place where we first met ♪ 116 00:05:52,702 --> 00:05:55,574 I saw them on Ed Sullivan for the first time 117 00:05:55,574 --> 00:06:00,238 and he was awesome I mean he did those impressions. 118 00:06:00,238 --> 00:06:01,212 - Ah, gee you don't have to get excited, 119 00:06:01,212 --> 00:06:03,749 if I could have to and I'm only out here trying to find-- 120 00:06:03,749 --> 00:06:05,460 (crowd laughs and claps) 121 00:06:05,460 --> 00:06:08,057 - He danced and he sang. (boisterous jazz music) 122 00:06:08,057 --> 00:06:11,390 ♪ And she was blue note ♪ 123 00:06:12,339 --> 00:06:14,283 (boisterous drum music) 124 00:06:14,283 --> 00:06:18,866 He was probably the most versatile complete entertainer 125 00:06:19,966 --> 00:06:24,430 that I had ever seen, he was just wonderful. 126 00:06:24,430 --> 00:06:27,465 ♪ And then they loose step ♪ 127 00:06:27,465 --> 00:06:30,798 - It was that image that cemented itself 128 00:06:32,325 --> 00:06:36,551 indelibly in my brain as a pattern for which 129 00:06:36,551 --> 00:06:41,122 I would then go on to pattern my own style of entertaining, 130 00:06:41,122 --> 00:06:45,289 by that I mean one who really did dramatic acting, 131 00:06:46,430 --> 00:06:49,513 really did the comedy, really danced, 132 00:06:51,061 --> 00:06:54,811 who could really sing and do it with the best 133 00:06:57,446 --> 00:07:01,145 that was considered to be the best in the business. 134 00:07:01,145 --> 00:07:04,537 - Her second birthday, she's blowing out the candles 135 00:07:04,537 --> 00:07:07,787 on her cake. - Esther Rolle, Good Times. 136 00:07:09,181 --> 00:07:11,264 She was Florida Evans. 137 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:14,681 - Morgan Freeman on The Electric Company. 138 00:07:15,897 --> 00:07:19,230 - Oh boy, I remember and I loved her too 139 00:07:21,617 --> 00:07:26,367 Diahann Carole, Julia, I mean I thought she was gorgeous. 140 00:07:29,132 --> 00:07:31,663 - [Announcer] Network television out of the laboratory 141 00:07:31,663 --> 00:07:34,494 and into your living room to provide the greatest medium 142 00:07:34,494 --> 00:07:38,728 of mass information and mass entertainment in the world. 143 00:07:38,728 --> 00:07:41,621 - I did grow up on TV, I mean as much as my parents 144 00:07:41,621 --> 00:07:43,685 would hate for me to say that 145 00:07:43,685 --> 00:07:47,880 and I have very vivid memories of television. 146 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,877 - There's one incident that sticks in my mind 147 00:07:49,877 --> 00:07:53,239 and the caveat is I'll never know if it was 148 00:07:53,239 --> 00:07:58,153 a person of color, but it happened in the early 60s 149 00:07:58,153 --> 00:08:01,399 and my mother and I were watching a television commercial 150 00:08:01,399 --> 00:08:03,525 and there was a woman playing a housewife 151 00:08:03,525 --> 00:08:05,476 and she was mopping the floor 152 00:08:05,476 --> 00:08:07,177 and my mother and I looked at each other 153 00:08:07,177 --> 00:08:10,635 with that kind of knowing wink that you know 154 00:08:10,635 --> 00:08:15,635 she's black or she's a negro, we were certain of it. 155 00:08:15,763 --> 00:08:17,130 - I know the names of every black person 156 00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:21,655 that was on television between like 1950 up to 1980 157 00:08:21,655 --> 00:08:25,771 because these were all the marks, the benchmarks. 158 00:08:25,771 --> 00:08:30,188 ♪ You'll miss me honey when I'm away ♪ 159 00:08:31,195 --> 00:08:32,923 - [Narrator] While the black image was first 160 00:08:32,923 --> 00:08:35,371 seen in variety shows, soon comedy inched its way 161 00:08:35,371 --> 00:08:40,336 from film, theater and radio onto the television screen. 162 00:08:40,336 --> 00:08:44,381 - Well I can't say I never told you now, 163 00:08:44,381 --> 00:08:47,881 leaving somebody here with all this stuff, 164 00:08:49,414 --> 00:08:53,139 I bet you're gonna blame me for it. 165 00:08:53,139 --> 00:08:56,388 - There's this old black comedy tradition, 166 00:08:56,388 --> 00:08:58,661 Stepin Fetchit in my mind started it 167 00:08:58,661 --> 00:09:00,833 and you could even go back to Burt Williams 168 00:09:00,833 --> 00:09:03,895 and old minstrel tradition if you wanted to. 169 00:09:03,895 --> 00:09:05,956 You know it's physical comedy. 170 00:09:05,956 --> 00:09:09,289 Eyes rolling, grinning, as I like to say 171 00:09:10,357 --> 00:09:12,308 people scratching when they don't itch, 172 00:09:12,308 --> 00:09:15,725 people laughing when things aren't funny. 173 00:09:17,693 --> 00:09:20,370 I think Burt Williams was in a cramp you know, 174 00:09:20,370 --> 00:09:22,207 I mean the average black person alive 175 00:09:22,207 --> 00:09:24,417 during the time of Burt Williams 176 00:09:24,417 --> 00:09:26,215 couldn't get a drink of water. 177 00:09:26,215 --> 00:09:27,218 You know what I'm saying? 178 00:09:27,218 --> 00:09:28,467 This dude's making a living, 179 00:09:28,467 --> 00:09:31,719 albeit in a very degrading manner, 180 00:09:31,719 --> 00:09:33,548 but he's making a living and people know him 181 00:09:33,548 --> 00:09:37,648 and he has recognition, but when he takes that face off 182 00:09:37,648 --> 00:09:41,815 he's just another nigger and I'm sure he knew that 183 00:09:43,879 --> 00:09:46,059 as well as the people around him. 184 00:09:46,059 --> 00:09:48,710 I mean Rochester went through the same thing. 185 00:09:48,710 --> 00:09:51,520 - Do I look as pale as I feel? 186 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,651 - Stepin Fetchit went through the same thing. 187 00:09:53,651 --> 00:09:55,143 - Where are you going stranger? 188 00:09:55,143 --> 00:09:57,593 - You scare somebody stiff like that. 189 00:09:57,593 --> 00:10:00,587 I'm looking for hillbillies, is you one? 190 00:10:00,587 --> 00:10:03,034 - I ain't saying I am, but I'm saying I ain't. 191 00:10:03,034 --> 00:10:04,821 - Well that's close enough for me 192 00:10:04,821 --> 00:10:07,194 because I'm tired of walking myself. 193 00:10:07,194 --> 00:10:11,411 - Stepin Fetchit had 22 cars and all these servants 194 00:10:11,411 --> 00:10:14,574 and fur coats and all you know people want to talk about 195 00:10:14,574 --> 00:10:17,446 bling bling like go deal with Stepin Fetchit. 196 00:10:17,446 --> 00:10:20,446 He was the original ghetto fabulous. 197 00:10:21,717 --> 00:10:24,604 But he was a guy who when he goes home 198 00:10:24,604 --> 00:10:27,674 and he's not going home to you know 199 00:10:27,674 --> 00:10:29,222 to live next door to Jack Bennett, 200 00:10:29,222 --> 00:10:30,967 you know what I'm saying? 201 00:10:30,967 --> 00:10:33,879 When he goes home, when he has to go back to 202 00:10:33,879 --> 00:10:38,712 where every other black person has to be, different story. 203 00:10:41,506 --> 00:10:44,890 It's really hard you know to go in front of all these 204 00:10:44,890 --> 00:10:48,203 white people and make them laugh by pandering to these 205 00:10:48,203 --> 00:10:50,689 racist stereotypes and then have to go home 206 00:10:50,689 --> 00:10:52,324 and look at yourself in the mirror 207 00:10:52,324 --> 00:10:56,407 or to then be relegated to second class citizenry 208 00:10:58,443 --> 00:11:01,505 in the same way that every other black person 209 00:11:01,505 --> 00:11:04,517 at the time is relegated to be a second class citizen, 210 00:11:04,517 --> 00:11:06,406 so it's a bit of a disconnect. 211 00:11:06,406 --> 00:11:11,406 (dramatic music) (glass shatters) 212 00:11:11,535 --> 00:11:13,331 - Willie? - Yes sir. 213 00:11:13,331 --> 00:11:15,294 - I'll be gone for a little while. 214 00:11:15,294 --> 00:11:18,283 A Mr. Lynn Dale will call, you take the message 215 00:11:18,283 --> 00:11:19,919 and be sure and get it right. 216 00:11:19,919 --> 00:11:21,295 - Oh yes sir. 217 00:11:21,295 --> 00:11:23,750 - At that particular time Willie Best 218 00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:25,167 and Ethel Waters. 219 00:11:26,533 --> 00:11:29,593 ♪ Can't forget your troubles ♪ 220 00:11:29,593 --> 00:11:32,923 ♪ When you're thinking what they are ♪ 221 00:11:32,923 --> 00:11:34,409 And Louise Beavers. 222 00:11:34,409 --> 00:11:36,022 - Never let the seeds stop you 223 00:11:36,022 --> 00:11:38,388 from enjoying the watermelons. 224 00:11:38,388 --> 00:11:40,246 - So what if you've got a watermelon. 225 00:11:40,246 --> 00:11:42,253 - You mustn't say that Ms. Mason. 226 00:11:42,253 --> 00:11:45,874 You've got your watermelon, but you choked yourself up 227 00:11:45,874 --> 00:11:50,755 on all those little seeds, I always say spit them out. 228 00:11:50,755 --> 00:11:54,083 Spit them out so you taste watermelon. 229 00:11:54,083 --> 00:11:56,957 - It was kind of like a small group of black folks 230 00:11:56,957 --> 00:11:58,986 that appeared over and over and over again 231 00:11:58,986 --> 00:12:03,813 in various films and television shows and they were it, 232 00:12:03,813 --> 00:12:07,062 but at least we could see them on a regular basis 233 00:12:07,062 --> 00:12:10,115 on those television shows and they weren't any place else. 234 00:12:10,115 --> 00:12:11,457 - Mr. Irving's place. 235 00:12:11,457 --> 00:12:13,010 New York? 236 00:12:13,010 --> 00:12:14,247 Can you hear me? 237 00:12:14,247 --> 00:12:16,295 - We're in commercials, you just didn't see 238 00:12:16,295 --> 00:12:18,679 them anywhere else and so whenever there was 239 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,347 somebody black on TV, it was like 240 00:12:20,347 --> 00:12:21,832 everybody got called into the room. 241 00:12:21,832 --> 00:12:23,766 Come on, see the black person, 242 00:12:23,766 --> 00:12:25,381 of course we didn't say black in those days. 243 00:12:25,381 --> 00:12:28,569 Colored people on TV or Negros on TV, you know, 244 00:12:28,569 --> 00:12:32,372 whatever, but we made sure we were gonna go see it, yeah. 245 00:12:32,372 --> 00:12:35,365 - But baby. - Think it over. 246 00:12:35,365 --> 00:12:39,397 - And it was a joy just to it's like wow, we're there. 247 00:12:39,397 --> 00:12:43,027 You know we're there and I don't think anybody said 248 00:12:43,027 --> 00:12:47,543 that at that time, it was really kind of more unspoken. 249 00:12:47,543 --> 00:12:50,735 And there was a pride you know that we were there 250 00:12:50,735 --> 00:12:53,424 and we were represented. 251 00:12:53,424 --> 00:12:56,651 - [Narrator] Early TV was a gamble in any color, 252 00:12:56,651 --> 00:12:59,467 so risk takers turned to proven money makers. 253 00:12:59,467 --> 00:13:02,757 Hit radio shows like Beulah and Amos 'n Andy, 254 00:13:02,757 --> 00:13:05,705 TV's Beulah debuted in 1950. 255 00:13:05,705 --> 00:13:09,027 Three of Hollywood's mammie actresses played the lead, 256 00:13:09,027 --> 00:13:11,686 Louise Beavers, Haddie McDaniel-- 257 00:13:11,686 --> 00:13:14,961 - This is Beulah, you're all around gal. 258 00:13:14,961 --> 00:13:18,935 (laughs) I'm the same size all around. 259 00:13:18,935 --> 00:13:21,414 - And Ethel Waters. - Hi Beulah. 260 00:13:21,414 --> 00:13:22,610 - [Narrator] Beulah didn't seem to have 261 00:13:22,610 --> 00:13:26,014 a life of her own, she was the true stereotype. 262 00:13:26,014 --> 00:13:29,010 Happy, overweight, cheerfully solving the problems 263 00:13:29,010 --> 00:13:31,429 of the white family in her care. 264 00:13:31,429 --> 00:13:32,875 - And don't you eat those cookies before 265 00:13:32,875 --> 00:13:35,829 you eat your sandwiches. - I won't. 266 00:13:35,829 --> 00:13:38,261 I owe Rusty Levinson two plain and two raisin 267 00:13:38,261 --> 00:13:42,326 from yesterday and I always like to pay my debts promptly. 268 00:13:42,326 --> 00:13:44,697 - You know it kept me in mind of this domestic, 269 00:13:44,697 --> 00:13:49,142 the woman who really took care of the household, 270 00:13:49,142 --> 00:13:53,106 so it gave me an image of the black woman as the person 271 00:13:53,106 --> 00:13:55,463 who actually took care of the household 272 00:13:55,463 --> 00:13:58,657 and was a smart woman again who answered 273 00:13:58,657 --> 00:14:01,341 a lot of questions that needed to be answered 274 00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:03,969 in that particular household. 275 00:14:03,969 --> 00:14:05,439 - [Narrator] Beulah was too offensive, 276 00:14:05,439 --> 00:14:07,989 said image aware watchdog groups, their protests 277 00:14:07,989 --> 00:14:10,683 forced the network to cancel the series. 278 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:13,020 - You know Beulah I think that dress needs a pin 279 00:14:13,020 --> 00:14:14,509 or something, let me get you mine. 280 00:14:14,509 --> 00:14:16,460 - Oh no, Miss Alice, I don't want to wear 281 00:14:16,460 --> 00:14:18,139 your good jewelry. - Oh don't be silly, 282 00:14:18,139 --> 00:14:20,026 it's just costume stuff, I'll get it for you. 283 00:14:20,026 --> 00:14:21,859 - Oh, you're so sweet. 284 00:14:23,263 --> 00:14:24,973 - [Narrator] The most listened to radio show 285 00:14:24,973 --> 00:14:28,227 of the 30s and 40s took place in an all black world 286 00:14:28,227 --> 00:14:31,056 of Amos 'n Andy, most of the cast was black, 287 00:14:31,056 --> 00:14:33,835 but series creators Freeman Gosden 288 00:14:33,835 --> 00:14:35,507 and Charles Correll were not. 289 00:14:35,507 --> 00:14:37,138 - Can I have a little now please? 290 00:14:37,138 --> 00:14:40,501 - Okay Mike, Andy's right here like this 291 00:14:40,501 --> 00:14:44,668 and Andy say, "Who scared me, ha ha ha, a little." 292 00:14:48,097 --> 00:14:50,691 - Mr. Garden, may I have a check from you now sir? 293 00:14:50,691 --> 00:14:53,392 - And then we have Amos, Amos about here Mike, 294 00:14:53,392 --> 00:14:55,733 how's the balance on Amos? 295 00:14:55,733 --> 00:14:56,908 - [Narrator] So for television they began 296 00:14:56,908 --> 00:15:00,748 a long search for black actors to play the title roles. 297 00:15:00,748 --> 00:15:04,047 - This fellow Spencer Williams actually comes to life 298 00:15:04,047 --> 00:15:05,847 as Andrew H. Brown and I venture to say 299 00:15:05,847 --> 00:15:09,495 that three or four seconds after you see him, 300 00:15:09,495 --> 00:15:12,937 you will always think of him when you think of Andy, 301 00:15:12,937 --> 00:15:14,908 and to prove what I'm talking about here he is, 302 00:15:14,908 --> 00:15:19,908 Andrew H. Brown. (audience claps and laughs) 303 00:15:22,245 --> 00:15:26,578 - Hello. (audience claps and laughs) 304 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,963 - And this next character we were a long time finding, 305 00:15:31,963 --> 00:15:34,796 because the Kingfish is really somebody, 306 00:15:34,796 --> 00:15:38,231 he's a fellow that has to have a twinkle in his eye, 307 00:15:38,231 --> 00:15:42,864 a smile on his face and a sort of a devil in his heart. 308 00:15:42,864 --> 00:15:45,245 The brother who is always looking out after his brothers, 309 00:15:45,245 --> 00:15:48,087 but first and last after himself. 310 00:15:48,087 --> 00:15:50,773 (audience laughs) Now when this fellow comes out 311 00:15:50,773 --> 00:15:53,228 and when he's on television I think you'll realize 312 00:15:53,228 --> 00:15:55,805 that this really is the Kingfish. 313 00:15:55,805 --> 00:15:58,453 In fact, we predict that all of the characters we have 314 00:15:58,453 --> 00:16:00,669 when you see them in the television film, 315 00:16:00,669 --> 00:16:03,631 they'll all come to life in front of your eyes. 316 00:16:03,631 --> 00:16:05,881 So ladies and gentleman, here he is, 317 00:16:05,881 --> 00:16:09,085 Tim Moore, the man that plays the part of George Stevens, 318 00:16:09,085 --> 00:16:10,975 Kingfish of the lodge. 319 00:16:10,975 --> 00:16:13,725 (audience claps) 320 00:16:16,697 --> 00:16:19,157 - Don't forget, we is all brothers 321 00:16:19,157 --> 00:16:23,345 in that great fraternity, the Mystic Knights of the Seed. 322 00:16:23,345 --> 00:16:27,012 (audience claps and laughs) 323 00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:32,089 - Now ladies and gentleman, we would like to thank our cast 324 00:16:32,089 --> 00:16:34,072 for coming down here and making this personal appearance 325 00:16:34,072 --> 00:16:36,031 so that you could meet them before you see them 326 00:16:36,031 --> 00:16:39,054 in the television show, so without further ado, 327 00:16:39,054 --> 00:16:41,959 we would like to say let's put on the Amos 'n Andy Show 328 00:16:41,959 --> 00:16:43,914 and we hope you enjoy it. 329 00:16:43,914 --> 00:16:45,569 - [Narrator] Beginning in 1951, Amos 'n Andy 330 00:16:45,569 --> 00:16:47,667 brought laughter, scheming and confusion 331 00:16:47,667 --> 00:16:49,895 into everyone's living rooms. 332 00:16:49,895 --> 00:16:52,040 It was wildly popular, but it made some 333 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,721 African Americans uncomfortable. 334 00:16:54,721 --> 00:16:57,162 - Kingfish, if you don't give me my money back, 335 00:16:57,162 --> 00:16:59,080 I'm gonna punch you in each eye, 336 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,723 then I'm gonna punch you in the mouth, 337 00:17:00,723 --> 00:17:02,847 then I'm gonna take a stick and crack your head. 338 00:17:02,847 --> 00:17:05,391 In other words, I'm gonna open everything that's closed 339 00:17:05,391 --> 00:17:07,557 and close everything that's opened. 340 00:17:07,557 --> 00:17:10,694 - Our household didn't put that very high 341 00:17:10,694 --> 00:17:13,612 on the list of shows to be watched. 342 00:17:15,631 --> 00:17:16,464 It was 343 00:17:20,919 --> 00:17:23,742 mentionable, noteworthy that blacks 344 00:17:23,742 --> 00:17:27,492 were on television and that was a good thing, 345 00:17:29,725 --> 00:17:33,509 but that particular show we had to watch 346 00:17:33,509 --> 00:17:37,592 with a certain amount of reserve in my household. 347 00:17:39,358 --> 00:17:43,223 - Amos, would you believe me if I told you 348 00:17:43,223 --> 00:17:45,479 I was doing this to keep our old friend Andy 349 00:17:45,479 --> 00:17:46,889 from going to jail? 350 00:17:46,889 --> 00:17:47,722 - No. 351 00:17:49,183 --> 00:17:52,165 - Well when I want your opinion I'll ask for it. 352 00:17:52,165 --> 00:17:55,427 - I got a call from the producers of the show 353 00:17:55,427 --> 00:17:58,927 asking me would I play a part on the show? 354 00:18:00,216 --> 00:18:02,949 And I explained to him in no uncertain terms 355 00:18:02,949 --> 00:18:06,484 I don't do that type of stereotype roles 356 00:18:06,484 --> 00:18:08,480 and you have the wrong person 357 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,039 and ooh I really, really went through it. 358 00:18:12,039 --> 00:18:15,401 Well to make a long story short, I did the role 359 00:18:15,401 --> 00:18:17,851 because he showed me something then 360 00:18:17,851 --> 00:18:20,133 that they were doing on Amos 'n Andy 361 00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:23,058 that they're not doing today 362 00:18:23,058 --> 00:18:24,808 and that was for Andy 363 00:18:28,199 --> 00:18:31,587 you had a counterpart over here, 364 00:18:31,587 --> 00:18:34,409 for Andy, you had an attorney. 365 00:18:34,409 --> 00:18:35,617 - Now would you mind telling the court 366 00:18:35,617 --> 00:18:39,201 under just what circumstances you met the defendant? 367 00:18:39,201 --> 00:18:42,415 - Well, about 18 years ago at a carnival. 368 00:18:42,415 --> 00:18:43,711 I reached in my pocket to get my wallet 369 00:18:43,711 --> 00:18:45,831 and shook hands with Mr. Steven. 370 00:18:45,831 --> 00:18:47,560 (audience laughs) 371 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,333 - Good heavens. 372 00:18:49,333 --> 00:18:53,132 - For Madam Queen, you had a nurse or a female doctor. 373 00:18:53,132 --> 00:18:55,663 - Hello folks. - For Amos, 374 00:18:55,663 --> 00:18:59,926 who was a cab driver, who appeared to be a pound, 375 00:18:59,926 --> 00:19:03,995 you had a psychiatrist, you had a counterpart 376 00:19:03,995 --> 00:19:07,264 to balance it out, I did I think four or five 377 00:19:07,264 --> 00:19:09,979 Amos 'n Andy shows and I always played the part 378 00:19:09,979 --> 00:19:14,312 of a judge, a lawyer, a doctor, a college professor. 379 00:19:15,702 --> 00:19:18,334 - Anybody who looks at Amos 'n Andy and thinks 380 00:19:18,334 --> 00:19:22,001 that this portrays black people is an idiot. 381 00:19:23,138 --> 00:19:25,991 We walk the streets, you'll see black doctors, 382 00:19:25,991 --> 00:19:27,565 you'll see black lawyers if you go into 383 00:19:27,565 --> 00:19:29,065 an office building 384 00:19:30,333 --> 00:19:31,583 we are not that 385 00:19:33,605 --> 00:19:35,443 and it's obvious that we are not that. 386 00:19:35,443 --> 00:19:38,967 This is comedy, there's no Superman. 387 00:19:38,967 --> 00:19:41,545 Anybody who thinks who runs and jumps off a building 388 00:19:41,545 --> 00:19:44,632 thinking he could fly is just as stupid as that person 389 00:19:44,632 --> 00:19:49,108 as that person who has that ideology about Amos 'n Andy. 390 00:19:49,108 --> 00:19:53,136 They are just funny characters employing Ebonics 391 00:19:53,136 --> 00:19:55,719 before Ebonics ever came along. 392 00:19:56,656 --> 00:19:57,705 - If this trouble's with my eyes, 393 00:19:57,705 --> 00:19:59,495 how come I gotta take my pants off? 394 00:19:59,495 --> 00:20:02,453 - That's a secret of obstrecity, so don't argue 395 00:20:02,453 --> 00:20:04,247 with the obstrecitor. - If you look at it 396 00:20:04,247 --> 00:20:08,164 as it was, it was a TV show, a comedy, a sitcom 397 00:20:10,727 --> 00:20:14,013 and that's all. - I did like Amos 'n Andy. 398 00:20:14,013 --> 00:20:16,678 I did and I'll tell you why 399 00:20:16,678 --> 00:20:20,435 because you have you know Kingfish was doing his schemes 400 00:20:20,435 --> 00:20:22,634 and all that stuff, however-- 401 00:20:22,634 --> 00:20:24,919 - Hi Kingfish! - There were lawyers, 402 00:20:24,919 --> 00:20:28,722 they were cab drivers, it helped people to work 403 00:20:28,722 --> 00:20:32,785 at a time when there wasn't a lot of work. 404 00:20:32,785 --> 00:20:35,785 - [Narrator] The NAACP urged CBS to develop programming 405 00:20:35,785 --> 00:20:39,531 that presented a black world not so stereotypical. 406 00:20:39,531 --> 00:20:43,181 Instead, the network chose to cancel Amos 'n Andy, 407 00:20:43,181 --> 00:20:46,781 the funny men went off the air and out on tour. 408 00:20:46,781 --> 00:20:50,978 (upbeat music) (audience laughing) 409 00:20:50,978 --> 00:20:52,365 - I thought they were hilarious 410 00:20:52,365 --> 00:20:56,939 and in fact, after the TV show, they went on the road 411 00:20:56,939 --> 00:21:01,263 and they had my mother play Sapphire on tour. 412 00:21:01,263 --> 00:21:04,786 So I got a chance to see them rehearse in my living room 413 00:21:04,786 --> 00:21:07,953 and it was a gas, they were wonderful. 414 00:21:09,199 --> 00:21:11,124 - [Narrator] Canceled or not, the series continued 415 00:21:11,124 --> 00:21:15,137 in syndication until 1966, it still sells briskly 416 00:21:15,137 --> 00:21:19,407 in VHS and DVD formats living viewers safe at home 417 00:21:19,407 --> 00:21:23,992 to chuckle out loud at the Kingfish, Calhoun and Sapphire. 418 00:21:23,992 --> 00:21:27,078 - My daddy, who grew up in the south, which is 419 00:21:27,078 --> 00:21:31,542 where I'm from, he used to tell me about Amos 'n Andy, 420 00:21:31,542 --> 00:21:32,946 never knew what he was talking about. 421 00:21:32,946 --> 00:21:35,076 Then they put out this video collection 422 00:21:35,076 --> 00:21:37,833 of Amos 'n Andy and I watched it and yes, 423 00:21:37,833 --> 00:21:40,653 I thought it was funny, especially for the time. 424 00:21:40,653 --> 00:21:42,669 - You see this head here of mine? 425 00:21:42,669 --> 00:21:46,266 Well there's a lot of ideas growing in that head. 426 00:21:46,266 --> 00:21:48,681 - Well if it's what's growing on the top is any sign 427 00:21:48,681 --> 00:21:52,911 of what's growing inside, it must be pretty bad. 428 00:21:52,911 --> 00:21:55,569 - Can you do that now, should you? 429 00:21:55,569 --> 00:21:59,555 Yeah, no, but was it funny especially for the time? 430 00:21:59,555 --> 00:22:03,555 Yes, it was, it was ridiculous, it was very ripe 431 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,786 if I might with satire I think it's hilarious. 432 00:22:08,786 --> 00:22:12,607 People don't want to see that now and rightfully so. 433 00:22:12,607 --> 00:22:16,107 - It says here no collateral, no cosigner. 434 00:22:17,195 --> 00:22:18,714 Well I ain't got none of that stuff, 435 00:22:18,714 --> 00:22:20,964 so I'm in good shape there. 436 00:22:21,867 --> 00:22:25,366 - And I was quite pissed off when Amos 'n Andy 437 00:22:25,366 --> 00:22:28,698 was taken off of television, but we have certain 438 00:22:28,698 --> 00:22:32,615 organizations when they run out of things to do 439 00:22:35,234 --> 00:22:37,067 they lose jobs for us. 440 00:22:38,331 --> 00:22:41,087 At one time they called it black exploitation. 441 00:22:41,087 --> 00:22:43,104 It was not black exploitation. 442 00:22:43,104 --> 00:22:45,775 It was black employment. 443 00:22:45,775 --> 00:22:47,514 - [Narrator] Once again, Tarzan's war cry 444 00:22:47,514 --> 00:22:49,899 rings through the African jungle, 445 00:22:49,899 --> 00:22:53,468 a daring challenge to the ominous rhythm of battle drums. 446 00:22:53,468 --> 00:22:56,903 - They griped about Tarzan, I didn't give a damn 447 00:22:56,903 --> 00:22:59,488 if a white boy took over the jungle. 448 00:22:59,488 --> 00:23:02,690 They hired lots of black people. 449 00:23:02,690 --> 00:23:05,583 I don't care if they ooga boogaed all across 450 00:23:05,583 --> 00:23:08,543 Warner Bros. or whoever filmed Tarzan, 451 00:23:08,543 --> 00:23:13,543 but I was happy to see a bunch of black people working. 452 00:23:13,872 --> 00:23:17,097 ♪ Oh the Lord isn't well ♪ 453 00:23:17,097 --> 00:23:19,515 - [Narrator] Appearances on religious or cultural programs 454 00:23:19,515 --> 00:23:23,282 seemed to fly under the radar of the watchdog groups. 455 00:23:23,282 --> 00:23:24,990 - Lamp Unto my Feet, Look Up and Live, 456 00:23:24,990 --> 00:23:28,128 a woman named Pamela Ailett was the producer. 457 00:23:28,128 --> 00:23:32,606 We would have music composed I mean for those ballets 458 00:23:32,606 --> 00:23:37,218 which were based on the Bible, so I've done all the ladies 459 00:23:37,218 --> 00:23:41,141 Mary to Bathsheba and the Witch of Endor 460 00:23:41,141 --> 00:23:44,308 and all those great ladies, great fun. 461 00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:50,154 - [Narrator] 50s television included variety shows, 462 00:23:50,154 --> 00:23:52,303 which occasionally featured black entertainers, 463 00:23:52,303 --> 00:23:56,386 Duke Ellington, (calm jazz music) 464 00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:00,583 Cab Calloway, 465 00:24:00,583 --> 00:24:04,735 ♪ Now here's a very interesting phrase ♪ 466 00:24:04,735 --> 00:24:07,220 ♪ It will put you in a daze ♪ 467 00:24:07,220 --> 00:24:08,567 Paul Robeson. 468 00:24:08,567 --> 00:24:13,205 - You have just an audience with the Emperor Jones. 469 00:24:13,205 --> 00:24:14,606 - [Narrator] Ella Fitzgerald. 470 00:24:14,606 --> 00:24:17,405 ♪ Please stop, sweetie, sweetie, ♪ 471 00:24:17,405 --> 00:24:18,744 ♪ But be discrete ♪ 472 00:24:18,744 --> 00:24:20,600 - Right. - Sara Vaughan 473 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,757 and others appeared on shows with veteran white hosts 474 00:24:23,757 --> 00:24:27,333 such as Ed Sullivan, Milton Berle and Steve Allen. 475 00:24:27,333 --> 00:24:30,083 (calm pop music) 476 00:24:31,131 --> 00:24:33,649 (boisterous pop music) 477 00:24:33,649 --> 00:24:37,495 Ray Charles and Mahalia Jackson both had regional TV shows, 478 00:24:37,495 --> 00:24:40,220 but the first national show was hosted by Nat King Cole 479 00:24:40,220 --> 00:24:42,741 and featured both white and black entertainers, 480 00:24:42,741 --> 00:24:44,983 from Pearl Bailey to George Shearing. 481 00:24:44,983 --> 00:24:48,615 It was a great source of pride for African American viewers. 482 00:24:48,615 --> 00:24:51,967 - Thank you very much and thanks for being with us again. 483 00:24:51,967 --> 00:24:54,569 This next song I'd like to do is moving up very rapidly 484 00:24:54,569 --> 00:24:56,335 on the popular charts. 485 00:24:56,335 --> 00:24:59,602 ♪ I'll put a ring around my rosy ♪ 486 00:24:59,602 --> 00:25:03,085 - [Man] Billy Daniels, the band leader had his own show. 487 00:25:03,085 --> 00:25:06,301 ♪ Because that darn baby is mine ♪ 488 00:25:06,301 --> 00:25:08,673 - But those shows could not go national, 489 00:25:08,673 --> 00:25:12,837 they could not go national because parts of the country, 490 00:25:12,837 --> 00:25:15,761 not just the south or the former Dixie, 491 00:25:15,761 --> 00:25:19,671 but parts of the country would not run the shows 492 00:25:19,671 --> 00:25:23,207 and sponsors would not back the shows. 493 00:25:23,207 --> 00:25:27,207 So that by the late 50s those attempts were over 494 00:25:29,818 --> 00:25:33,993 and you saw African Americans really in subservient roles 495 00:25:33,993 --> 00:25:37,213 servants, occasional criminals. 496 00:25:37,213 --> 00:25:39,924 Certainly the networks and the advertising 497 00:25:39,924 --> 00:25:42,174 who sponsored the show were 498 00:25:43,241 --> 00:25:46,064 racist, prejudiced, bigoted, you choose. 499 00:25:46,064 --> 00:25:47,639 ♪ The coffee could be sweeter ♪ 500 00:25:47,639 --> 00:25:49,167 ♪ But I'm not in the dumps ♪ 501 00:25:49,167 --> 00:25:50,645 ♪ 'Cause every time she hugs me, ♪ 502 00:25:50,645 --> 00:25:52,191 ♪ It's like two extra lumps ♪ 503 00:25:52,191 --> 00:25:55,492 Eddie Canter had the temerity not only to hug 504 00:25:55,492 --> 00:26:00,204 Sammy Davis Jr. on television, but also Sammy was 505 00:26:00,204 --> 00:26:03,363 sweating and he handed him his handkerchief 506 00:26:03,363 --> 00:26:06,910 and there was an uproar, they actually almost pulled 507 00:26:06,910 --> 00:26:10,391 Eddie Cantor off the air permanently because a Caucasian man 508 00:26:10,391 --> 00:26:15,007 had given a man of color a handkerchief to use. 509 00:26:15,007 --> 00:26:19,991 ♪ Yes, thank your lucky stars, it's doing fine ♪ 510 00:26:19,991 --> 00:26:24,991 Dinah Shore hugged or put her arm around Mahalia Jackson 511 00:26:25,090 --> 00:26:27,941 doing a duet on the Dinah Shore Chevrolet Show 512 00:26:27,941 --> 00:26:29,956 and it started all those rumors again 513 00:26:29,956 --> 00:26:33,167 that Dinah Shore was in fact a mulatto. 514 00:26:33,167 --> 00:26:36,662 ♪ And lovers walked beneath those trees ♪ 515 00:26:36,662 --> 00:26:39,695 ♪ And birds found songs to sing ♪ 516 00:26:39,695 --> 00:26:41,443 Racism in television was very real. 517 00:26:41,443 --> 00:26:44,085 - I think the saddest time I had on television, 518 00:26:44,085 --> 00:26:49,085 when John Butler did a wonderful piece for Ed Sullivan Show, 519 00:26:51,769 --> 00:26:55,355 I was dancing Willow Weep for May or something like that 520 00:26:55,355 --> 00:26:57,775 and I was going to dance with Glen Tetley, 521 00:26:57,775 --> 00:27:01,343 and Glen Tetley, I had been dancing with him all the time. 522 00:27:01,343 --> 00:27:03,939 It was part of John Butler's company that we did 523 00:27:03,939 --> 00:27:06,898 all those morning programs together, nobody said anything 524 00:27:06,898 --> 00:27:08,673 about being of color or anything, 525 00:27:08,673 --> 00:27:11,493 we just did what we did, but I could not dance 526 00:27:11,493 --> 00:27:14,320 with Glen because he was white. 527 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,790 Now John Butler was in Greenwood, Mississippi 528 00:27:17,790 --> 00:27:21,275 and his two main ladies in his company 529 00:27:21,275 --> 00:27:23,692 were Mary Hinkson and myself. 530 00:27:25,411 --> 00:27:27,713 He was told he could not use me at all. 531 00:27:27,713 --> 00:27:30,072 We could not do this piece together. 532 00:27:30,072 --> 00:27:32,405 John was like thunderstruck. 533 00:27:34,201 --> 00:27:36,342 ♪ Unchain my heart ♪ 534 00:27:36,342 --> 00:27:38,469 - [Narrator] Variety performance kept on singing. 535 00:27:38,469 --> 00:27:41,985 (boisterous pop music) 536 00:27:41,985 --> 00:27:42,845 Dancing. 537 00:27:42,845 --> 00:27:46,095 (boisterous pop music) 538 00:27:48,666 --> 00:27:51,735 ♪ One more dance for the nice lady ♪ 539 00:27:51,735 --> 00:27:53,911 And waiting for change. 540 00:27:53,911 --> 00:27:58,003 It came in the mid 60s from a government and a nurse. 541 00:27:58,003 --> 00:28:00,389 - You really did not get a change from African Americans 542 00:28:00,389 --> 00:28:03,952 playing either servants or musical performers until I Spy 543 00:28:03,952 --> 00:28:06,633 in the mid 60s, in which Bill Cosby 544 00:28:06,633 --> 00:28:08,683 was matched up with Robert Culp, 545 00:28:08,683 --> 00:28:12,516 playing government agents, he was the scholar. 546 00:28:13,413 --> 00:28:18,413 - We started looking at how cool Bill Cosby was in I Spy 547 00:28:18,792 --> 00:28:22,556 and the fact that he was particularly for then 548 00:28:22,556 --> 00:28:25,806 he was treated as somewhat of an equal. 549 00:28:27,259 --> 00:28:29,658 - I thought one of the groundbreaking things about 550 00:28:29,658 --> 00:28:31,609 Bill Cosby's participation in I Spy 551 00:28:31,609 --> 00:28:33,810 was his portrayal as this 552 00:28:33,810 --> 00:28:36,890 brilliant Rhodes Scholar individual 553 00:28:36,890 --> 00:28:40,707 that is probably brighter than his partner 554 00:28:40,707 --> 00:28:43,790 and was certainly a quantum leap from 555 00:28:44,698 --> 00:28:47,198 some of the characterizations that had been 556 00:28:47,198 --> 00:28:50,497 heretofore given to black actors. 557 00:28:50,497 --> 00:28:52,857 (funky music) 558 00:28:52,857 --> 00:28:54,373 And then a few years after that, 559 00:28:54,373 --> 00:28:58,623 you got Julia with Diahann Carroll playing a nurse. 560 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,847 - She was the perfect black woman, 561 00:29:03,847 --> 00:29:07,486 black white woman they thought I guess during that time, 562 00:29:07,486 --> 00:29:09,903 but Julia her show was great. 563 00:29:13,127 --> 00:29:15,606 And we needed to make that move, that change, 564 00:29:15,606 --> 00:29:18,841 sort of bougie, but I liked it, I liked bourgeois, 565 00:29:18,841 --> 00:29:22,076 along with some other things, it's good, it's healthy. 566 00:29:22,076 --> 00:29:24,223 I thought it was like all the other shows that were on, 567 00:29:24,223 --> 00:29:26,209 it was very up, it was positive, she had a child. 568 00:29:26,209 --> 00:29:29,811 She was a single parent, right and she was doing well 569 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:32,517 and that was great for me, I enjoyed it. 570 00:29:32,517 --> 00:29:34,417 - She couldn't do anything right, I mean you know 571 00:29:34,417 --> 00:29:38,750 black folks criticized her because she was too fancy 572 00:29:39,991 --> 00:29:43,818 or she spoke too well, or she wasn't really black you know 573 00:29:43,818 --> 00:29:45,317 and white folks criticized her 574 00:29:45,317 --> 00:29:48,269 because nobody lives like that or nobody acts like that 575 00:29:48,269 --> 00:29:51,271 or whatever, I mean she just couldn't do anything right 576 00:29:51,271 --> 00:29:53,800 and that was a lot of pressure on her, 577 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,847 but thank God she did it even for three seasons. 578 00:29:57,847 --> 00:30:00,764 (calm flute music) 579 00:30:05,295 --> 00:30:09,545 - [Narrator] This is the future starting to happen. 580 00:30:11,627 --> 00:30:14,321 - And you got Room 222, something that's often overlooked, 581 00:30:14,321 --> 00:30:18,357 but then you had Lloyd Haynes playing a history teacher. 582 00:30:18,357 --> 00:30:21,675 - I'm a teacher, I'm here to teach, 583 00:30:21,675 --> 00:30:25,637 but there's a regulation that says I can't teach this kid, 584 00:30:25,637 --> 00:30:29,828 that he's got to go to Tyler and that's wrong, 585 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:33,393 because I know Tyler, I'm from Tyler. 586 00:30:33,393 --> 00:30:34,645 And what they're doing there 587 00:30:34,645 --> 00:30:37,182 isn't teaching, it's controlling. 588 00:30:37,182 --> 00:30:40,699 - And Denise Nicholas playing a guidance counselor. 589 00:30:40,699 --> 00:30:44,407 - I'm just doing what I have to do, Richie, 590 00:30:44,407 --> 00:30:49,190 you've been doing so great lately, the top 10% of your class 591 00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:51,666 I sent a letter home to your folks to let them know 592 00:30:51,666 --> 00:30:55,597 how happy we were about it and it came back. 593 00:30:55,597 --> 00:30:56,930 No such address. 594 00:31:00,401 --> 00:31:03,768 You do live in this school district, don't you? 595 00:31:03,768 --> 00:31:08,069 - Sure Liz McIntire all upper middle class, 596 00:31:08,069 --> 00:31:11,510 touch all the bases, follow all the rules. 597 00:31:11,510 --> 00:31:14,770 Yes sir, Mr. Kaufman we gonna kick Richie out. 598 00:31:14,770 --> 00:31:16,103 - [Man] And the students were integrated 599 00:31:16,103 --> 00:31:17,125 and they dealt with issues of race. 600 00:31:17,125 --> 00:31:20,359 - I'm taking attendance. - What are you doing that for? 601 00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:21,617 - Look, I don't want an argument, 602 00:31:21,617 --> 00:31:22,840 are you here or not Avery? 603 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,056 - Well yeah I'm here. 604 00:31:24,056 --> 00:31:25,223 - Jason Allen. 605 00:31:26,663 --> 00:31:29,901 - Get yourself together baby, ain't it enough 606 00:31:29,901 --> 00:31:32,549 you dress like the teacher? 607 00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:34,799 - Jason Allen, here or not? 608 00:31:36,620 --> 00:31:39,577 (laughs) Oh yes, Jason's here. 609 00:31:39,577 --> 00:31:41,584 - Even the principal was Jewish. 610 00:31:41,584 --> 00:31:43,306 - It's part of my civil service examination, 611 00:31:43,306 --> 00:31:45,492 it said can you be a louse and I answered yes 612 00:31:45,492 --> 00:31:47,451 and they made me a principal. 613 00:31:47,451 --> 00:31:50,741 - They were going for ethnicity in that show. 614 00:31:50,741 --> 00:31:54,188 - Ms. Jones is here to dry the area behind her ears. 615 00:31:54,188 --> 00:31:55,685 She's gonna spend the rest of this semester 616 00:31:55,685 --> 00:31:58,317 with you student teaching. 617 00:31:58,317 --> 00:32:02,453 - I hope it's a meaningful semester for both of us. 618 00:32:02,453 --> 00:32:04,179 - Just what you always wanted right? 619 00:32:04,179 --> 00:32:05,846 Meaningful semester? 620 00:32:08,326 --> 00:32:09,937 - It's very important that you and I 621 00:32:09,937 --> 00:32:12,237 establish good human relations. 622 00:32:12,237 --> 00:32:14,285 - Right. - I know I have a lot 623 00:32:14,285 --> 00:32:18,471 of middle class hangups, I went to a segregated school. 624 00:32:18,471 --> 00:32:20,804 - Oh, that's okay, so did I. 625 00:32:21,952 --> 00:32:26,727 - So the breakthrough started to come in the late 60s. 626 00:32:26,727 --> 00:32:29,093 (crowd cheering) 627 00:32:29,093 --> 00:32:30,259 - [Narrator] Viewers caught a first glimpse 628 00:32:30,259 --> 00:32:32,706 of their favorite musical performers on the most popular 629 00:32:32,706 --> 00:32:34,428 variety shows of the era. 630 00:32:34,428 --> 00:32:39,428 ♪ Tonight you're mine completely ♪ 631 00:32:39,546 --> 00:32:43,681 ♪ And you you're asking me, oh ♪ 632 00:32:43,681 --> 00:32:46,627 ♪ Don't miss me Bill ♪ 633 00:32:46,627 --> 00:32:47,800 ♪ No no no no ♪ 634 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,827 - The first Motown act that we ever had Ed Sullivan 635 00:32:49,827 --> 00:32:52,395 was of course The Supremes 636 00:32:52,395 --> 00:32:56,514 and then we just lined up, I mean it's like a line of us 637 00:32:56,514 --> 00:32:59,335 going to the Ed Sullivan Show. 638 00:32:59,335 --> 00:33:04,335 ♪ I've got this burning, burning, yearning feeling inside me ♪ 639 00:33:06,069 --> 00:33:07,557 The reason we started to call The Supremes 640 00:33:07,557 --> 00:33:11,509 The Girls of Motown was because the first time 641 00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:14,372 they were on there, Ed Sullivan introduced them. 642 00:33:14,372 --> 00:33:18,539 He said, "And now we have from Detroit The Girls." 643 00:33:21,621 --> 00:33:25,777 ♪ Nothing but high, ooh ooh ooh ♪ 644 00:33:25,777 --> 00:33:28,159 But he couldn't think of their name. 645 00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:29,941 And the first time we were on there 646 00:33:29,941 --> 00:33:33,969 he said, "Now from Detroit from that Motown sound, 647 00:33:33,969 --> 00:33:37,302 "we have Smokey and the Little Smokies." 648 00:33:39,097 --> 00:33:41,847 (crowd cheering) 649 00:33:43,721 --> 00:33:46,957 ♪ Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah ♪ 650 00:33:46,957 --> 00:33:49,040 (laughs) 651 00:33:50,074 --> 00:33:52,178 - I think The Temptations did the Ed Sullivan Show 652 00:33:52,178 --> 00:33:54,011 around 1966 I believe. 653 00:33:56,375 --> 00:34:00,380 ♪ Laughed and turned the gray sky blue ♪ 654 00:34:00,380 --> 00:34:03,297 When knowledge of a black performer 655 00:34:04,145 --> 00:34:08,728 was going to perform on Ed Sullivan or a show like that 656 00:34:11,844 --> 00:34:14,398 at that time of course people really congregated 657 00:34:14,398 --> 00:34:17,793 around the TV, there were people that didn't have a TV, 658 00:34:17,793 --> 00:34:21,377 they would go to someone's house and watch. 659 00:34:22,357 --> 00:34:26,829 And to show you how much of a part that television 660 00:34:26,829 --> 00:34:30,731 in black performance played at that time, 661 00:34:30,731 --> 00:34:34,648 we were booked to do a live show in Mississippi 662 00:34:37,789 --> 00:34:39,621 and on that same night 663 00:34:41,152 --> 00:34:45,074 ♪ Unhappy man with all the powers at his hand ♪ 664 00:34:45,074 --> 00:34:49,333 the taped performance on Ed Sullivan was playing. 665 00:34:49,333 --> 00:34:51,855 No one came to that show 666 00:34:51,855 --> 00:34:54,688 because they thought that the show 667 00:34:56,504 --> 00:34:59,045 would be a hoax because they said how can they be on 668 00:34:59,045 --> 00:35:03,441 television and be here at this coliseum at the same time, 669 00:35:03,441 --> 00:35:08,441 so the promoter literally lost his shirt because of that 670 00:35:08,914 --> 00:35:10,938 simply because we were being shown 671 00:35:10,938 --> 00:35:13,521 on Ed Sullivan that same night. 672 00:35:15,075 --> 00:35:17,474 - [Narrator] More than music made a mark on TV viewers 673 00:35:17,474 --> 00:35:20,323 in this decade of challenge and change. 674 00:35:20,323 --> 00:35:23,771 - We will be any free by any means necessary. 675 00:35:23,771 --> 00:35:26,521 - Black power means black dignity 676 00:35:28,271 --> 00:35:30,867 just as surely as you're proud to be white, 677 00:35:30,867 --> 00:35:34,401 we're proud to be black, black is beautiful baby. 678 00:35:34,401 --> 00:35:35,962 It's pretty. 679 00:35:35,962 --> 00:35:37,745 - [Narrator] It was civil rights. 680 00:35:37,745 --> 00:35:40,169 Serious documentaries about rural poverty, 681 00:35:40,169 --> 00:35:43,725 segregation and the growing movement started appearing. 682 00:35:43,725 --> 00:35:46,264 News coverage of violent segregationist backlash 683 00:35:46,264 --> 00:35:49,656 burned images of fire hoses, dogs and beatings 684 00:35:49,656 --> 00:35:52,111 into the American psyche. 685 00:35:52,111 --> 00:35:54,634 Thanks to TV, two black male figures rushed 686 00:35:54,634 --> 00:35:57,706 to the forefront of American minds, 687 00:35:57,706 --> 00:36:01,303 Dr. Martin Luther King was seen as saintly, 688 00:36:01,303 --> 00:36:05,725 leading marches in Selma, Birmingham and Montgomery. 689 00:36:05,725 --> 00:36:08,225 - I just want to do God's will 690 00:36:09,583 --> 00:36:13,576 and he's allowed me to go up to the mountain 691 00:36:13,576 --> 00:36:17,993 and I've looked over and I've seen the promised land. 692 00:36:21,225 --> 00:36:24,023 I may not get there with you, 693 00:36:24,023 --> 00:36:26,702 but I want you to know tonight 694 00:36:26,702 --> 00:36:30,869 that we as a people will get to the promised land. 695 00:36:32,014 --> 00:36:34,419 - [Narrator] Conversely, the stance and religion 696 00:36:34,419 --> 00:36:38,525 of Malcolm X struck fear in the hearts of viewers. 697 00:36:38,525 --> 00:36:41,942 - And it goes back to growing up in Iowa. 698 00:36:43,225 --> 00:36:46,975 I would say that for me the national coverage 699 00:36:50,071 --> 00:36:53,855 of the civil rights movement in the early 60s 700 00:36:53,855 --> 00:36:55,944 was in many ways that and the print media 701 00:36:55,944 --> 00:36:58,444 how I as a child participated. 702 00:37:00,445 --> 00:37:02,352 I would say it was different from my parents, 703 00:37:02,352 --> 00:37:03,915 because I can remember for instance my father 704 00:37:03,915 --> 00:37:08,036 being photographed picketing a Greyhound bus station, 705 00:37:08,036 --> 00:37:11,690 but as a child I lived the civil rights movement 706 00:37:11,690 --> 00:37:15,087 through those television images. 707 00:37:15,087 --> 00:37:18,008 - I grew up in Winston, Salem and 30 miles away 708 00:37:18,008 --> 00:37:20,983 was Greensborough where the Woolworth sit-ins happened 709 00:37:20,983 --> 00:37:24,401 and there was a lot of activity going on down south 710 00:37:24,401 --> 00:37:27,861 and my parents were trying to help me understand that 711 00:37:27,861 --> 00:37:30,880 and at the same time try to shelter from the types 712 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,214 of things that little black girls had 713 00:37:32,214 --> 00:37:34,479 to go through in the 60s 714 00:37:34,479 --> 00:37:37,577 and I think that television was the thing that let us know 715 00:37:37,577 --> 00:37:40,995 that in our struggle to be equal that we weren't alone 716 00:37:40,995 --> 00:37:42,761 that that television was a way of 717 00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:43,878 bringing in the entire nation 718 00:37:43,878 --> 00:37:45,705 and the world into my living room 719 00:37:45,705 --> 00:37:47,312 and letting me know that I counted, 720 00:37:47,312 --> 00:37:50,593 that there were people out there fighting for my rights, 721 00:37:50,593 --> 00:37:52,872 and that made me at least 722 00:37:52,872 --> 00:37:55,146 it made me in a very young age realize 723 00:37:55,146 --> 00:37:57,271 the power that television had, 724 00:37:57,271 --> 00:38:01,585 the images that it makes on lives and impressions, 725 00:38:01,585 --> 00:38:03,952 the power that it gives a little girl from North Carolina 726 00:38:03,952 --> 00:38:05,699 to believe that there's a nation out there 727 00:38:05,699 --> 00:38:07,547 believing that you're equal too. 728 00:38:07,547 --> 00:38:08,806 And you know something little girl, 729 00:38:08,806 --> 00:38:10,951 there might not be any black anchor women on TV today, 730 00:38:10,951 --> 00:38:13,687 but you're gonna be one. 731 00:38:13,687 --> 00:38:15,673 And that kind of image, that let me know 732 00:38:15,673 --> 00:38:20,673 the power of that medium and that's why I love television. 733 00:38:20,865 --> 00:38:22,566 - [Narrator] By the 70s the entire world 734 00:38:22,566 --> 00:38:24,893 was beginning to count on television for a significant 735 00:38:24,893 --> 00:38:26,718 part of its entertainment. 736 00:38:26,718 --> 00:38:29,501 America fell in love with two very funny black men 737 00:38:29,501 --> 00:38:33,485 as the 70s began and soon Redd Foxx and Flip Wilson 738 00:38:33,485 --> 00:38:35,921 were soon standing on top of the world. 739 00:38:35,921 --> 00:38:38,921 - Flip Wilson is entertaining, yeah. 740 00:38:39,947 --> 00:38:43,280 Flip Wilson when I saw him do Geraldine, 741 00:38:44,409 --> 00:38:47,755 I hooped, there was no cussing, 742 00:38:47,755 --> 00:38:50,971 but just that character and the nerve of this man 743 00:38:50,971 --> 00:38:55,355 to dress in as we know today drag and be comfortable with it 744 00:38:55,355 --> 00:38:57,815 and be hilarious, it was brilliant. 745 00:38:57,815 --> 00:39:00,035 See back then we didn't know any better. 746 00:39:00,035 --> 00:39:01,883 At least I didn't, I didn't know I was like 747 00:39:01,883 --> 00:39:04,716 is that a man, that's Flip Wilson. 748 00:39:06,478 --> 00:39:08,881 How brilliant was that. 749 00:39:08,881 --> 00:39:10,427 See back then I think maybe black comedians 750 00:39:10,427 --> 00:39:12,379 someone said can you believe 751 00:39:12,379 --> 00:39:14,265 he is putting this damn dress on? 752 00:39:14,265 --> 00:39:18,219 But then when they saw his ratings and the dollar signs, 753 00:39:18,219 --> 00:39:20,821 oh putting a dress on is not so bad. 754 00:39:20,821 --> 00:39:23,738 (funky jazz music) 755 00:39:25,059 --> 00:39:28,405 - I like The Flip Wilson Show and the reason why I liked it 756 00:39:28,405 --> 00:39:31,572 is because it was this black man on TV 757 00:39:32,902 --> 00:39:36,521 who was actually in control of his own show 758 00:39:36,521 --> 00:39:39,523 and that and when you're in control of your own, 759 00:39:39,523 --> 00:39:42,643 you tend to look out for your folks. 760 00:39:42,643 --> 00:39:46,410 He brought in the black artists to be a part of his show, 761 00:39:46,410 --> 00:39:48,601 you know and that was wonderful. 762 00:39:48,601 --> 00:39:52,819 I saw a power, a sense of power and a sense of control 763 00:39:52,819 --> 00:39:55,069 in Flip and his production. 764 00:39:56,747 --> 00:39:58,603 - The funniest person ever on television 765 00:39:58,603 --> 00:39:59,811 I think was Redd Foxx. 766 00:39:59,811 --> 00:40:02,644 (funky 70s music) 767 00:40:04,489 --> 00:40:06,283 He was very honest and I think 768 00:40:06,283 --> 00:40:08,813 if they had allowed him to cuss, he would have. 769 00:40:08,813 --> 00:40:10,794 Just his facial expressions, he didn't even 770 00:40:10,794 --> 00:40:12,779 have to open his mouth and that's what makes 771 00:40:12,779 --> 00:40:15,755 a great comedian without saying a word 772 00:40:15,755 --> 00:40:18,321 and you still have people just crying. 773 00:40:18,321 --> 00:40:20,970 He was the funniest person on television. 774 00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:23,887 (funky jazz music) 775 00:40:25,849 --> 00:40:28,068 - This has been a nerve-shattering experience for me, sir. 776 00:40:28,068 --> 00:40:29,235 I'd like to go home. 777 00:40:29,235 --> 00:40:34,235 - Richard Pryor and I got our Writer's Guild cards together, 778 00:40:34,993 --> 00:40:36,909 writing for Sanford and Son. 779 00:40:36,909 --> 00:40:39,742 (funky 70s music) 780 00:40:43,179 --> 00:40:45,191 And Richard couldn't take the grind of every day, 781 00:40:45,191 --> 00:40:47,747 so he quit, so I stayed on, 782 00:40:47,747 --> 00:40:51,593 but a black comedy writer was something that was on the moon 783 00:40:51,593 --> 00:40:55,481 it was unheard of, they had mostly white men 784 00:40:55,481 --> 00:40:58,844 who grew up with the black people who knew black people 785 00:40:58,844 --> 00:41:01,225 writing for black shows. 786 00:41:01,225 --> 00:41:03,253 I will hear that expression, it would always bother me, 787 00:41:03,253 --> 00:41:06,959 it would hurt my ears, because every script I ever wrote 788 00:41:06,959 --> 00:41:09,952 for Sanford and Son, Redd Foxx and those black actors 789 00:41:09,952 --> 00:41:11,682 the minute they picked that script up, 790 00:41:11,682 --> 00:41:13,944 they knew I had, they knew I had written it. 791 00:41:13,944 --> 00:41:16,861 (funky jazz music) 792 00:41:18,222 --> 00:41:22,209 I grew up with Redd Foxx so I was a big fan of his 793 00:41:22,209 --> 00:41:24,748 and he loved Richard and Richard Pryor loved him, 794 00:41:24,748 --> 00:41:26,659 so it was like family, it was easy. 795 00:41:26,659 --> 00:41:29,492 (funky 70s music) 796 00:41:32,191 --> 00:41:34,243 (calm jazz music) 797 00:41:34,243 --> 00:41:35,777 - [Narrator] Being black in entertainment 798 00:41:35,777 --> 00:41:38,250 means being part of a very small family, 799 00:41:38,250 --> 00:41:40,841 inside an awful hostile larger world, 800 00:41:40,841 --> 00:41:43,062 but African American performers today 801 00:41:43,062 --> 00:41:46,256 from the celebrated to the unknown understand 802 00:41:46,256 --> 00:41:48,725 with each step they take they stand on the shoulders 803 00:41:48,725 --> 00:41:51,762 of those who came before them. 804 00:41:51,762 --> 00:41:53,415 - It's so vital that there were so many nameless 805 00:41:53,415 --> 00:41:56,404 and faceless individuals who really, really paid 806 00:41:56,404 --> 00:42:00,015 ferocious dues for those who we came to know 807 00:42:00,015 --> 00:42:01,943 like the James Edwards in Home of the Brave, 808 00:42:01,943 --> 00:42:04,069 Mr. Sidney Poitier in No Way Out, 809 00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:06,239 of course Ethel Waters and Louise Beavers 810 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,353 and Mr. Ernest Whitman, Freddie Washington, 811 00:42:09,353 --> 00:42:12,548 Laurence Criner, Alex Lovejoy, many of the Lafayette players 812 00:42:12,548 --> 00:42:16,692 these individuals were so germane to our success 813 00:42:16,692 --> 00:42:19,235 and they carried us through and they took the parts 814 00:42:19,235 --> 00:42:22,177 that they had no option to take, 815 00:42:22,177 --> 00:42:23,893 because they wanted to work, they were artists 816 00:42:23,893 --> 00:42:26,560 and they paid dues and people like to go back 817 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,182 and reference Lincoln Perry, Mr. Stepin Fetchit, 818 00:42:29,182 --> 00:42:31,542 which was a character not the man, 819 00:42:31,542 --> 00:42:32,801 people like to reference him 820 00:42:32,801 --> 00:42:35,039 as some sort of pejorative notion, 821 00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:36,867 but we are not that far removed with a lot of the young 822 00:42:36,867 --> 00:42:39,995 people in what they are doing today. 823 00:42:39,995 --> 00:42:42,175 I mean we used to have a time, certainly during 824 00:42:42,175 --> 00:42:45,467 the time when my early maturation in the 70s 825 00:42:45,467 --> 00:42:47,299 and we would look at variety shows 826 00:42:47,299 --> 00:42:49,555 and we would see Mr. Sammy Davis Jr. 827 00:42:49,555 --> 00:42:51,927 We would see Diahann Carroll, we would see Leslie Adams, 828 00:42:51,927 --> 00:42:55,107 Mr. Poiter, Mr. Bellafonte, we'd see Pearl Bailey. 829 00:42:55,107 --> 00:42:57,181 We'd see all new Lena Horn, these great artists 830 00:42:57,181 --> 00:43:00,537 and every single time they hit the stage, 831 00:43:00,537 --> 00:43:02,828 we were proud because they brought 832 00:43:02,828 --> 00:43:05,450 such a usable consciousness and a magnificent 833 00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:09,121 sense of dignity and huge artistry to the moment 834 00:43:09,121 --> 00:43:11,635 that we are all proud and we were made better 835 00:43:11,635 --> 00:43:14,141 each time they took the stage. 836 00:43:14,141 --> 00:43:17,707 - I would say Ruby Dee, Ossie Davis, Cicely Tyson, 837 00:43:17,707 --> 00:43:20,457 Sidney Poitier, Harry Bellafonte, 838 00:43:21,609 --> 00:43:25,643 you know just all these really incredible people 839 00:43:25,643 --> 00:43:29,593 that without them we probably would not be here 840 00:43:29,593 --> 00:43:32,836 to go through all the hard knocks 841 00:43:32,836 --> 00:43:36,401 and the struggles that they had to endure 842 00:43:36,401 --> 00:43:38,683 for me to be here I know that. 843 00:43:38,683 --> 00:43:41,850 - The public doesn't get that there is 844 00:43:42,967 --> 00:43:46,790 sort of an unspoken fraternity and comradery 845 00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:48,659 that goes along with being in this business 846 00:43:48,659 --> 00:43:51,404 that exists, they see us in competition a lot 847 00:43:51,404 --> 00:43:54,148 because the business is structured that way, 848 00:43:54,148 --> 00:43:56,501 you have charts that who's number one, who's this, 849 00:43:56,501 --> 00:43:58,655 who's that, who's best box office, who's this 850 00:43:58,655 --> 00:44:02,094 and it looks as if it is somewhat competitive 851 00:44:02,094 --> 00:44:04,221 and on a certain level I guess that it is, 852 00:44:04,221 --> 00:44:06,892 but on a much deeper level as artists 853 00:44:06,892 --> 00:44:10,402 we all share a certain kind of understanding 854 00:44:10,402 --> 00:44:11,997 about what we're going through 855 00:44:11,997 --> 00:44:14,314 and particularly as African American artists 856 00:44:14,314 --> 00:44:17,113 that we are part of something that is bigger 857 00:44:17,113 --> 00:44:19,035 than just the work that we're doing 858 00:44:19,035 --> 00:44:21,449 and we try to support each other. 859 00:44:21,449 --> 00:44:26,037 - It takes an entire community to protect and nurture 860 00:44:26,037 --> 00:44:28,576 this thing called entertainment 861 00:44:28,576 --> 00:44:30,576 and called images of us. 862 00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:35,472 (calm jazz music) 863 00:44:39,697 --> 00:44:41,177 - [Narrator] The first years of television in black 864 00:44:41,177 --> 00:44:44,441 paralleled the growth of the nation. 865 00:44:44,441 --> 00:44:47,381 Mammie and Dixon buffoonery changed into civil rights 866 00:44:47,381 --> 00:44:49,657 and strong looks at history, 867 00:44:49,657 --> 00:44:51,329 but television had to wait many more years 868 00:44:51,329 --> 00:44:54,705 for equal opportunity, laughter and tears. 869 00:44:54,705 --> 00:44:57,538 (calm jazz music) 870 00:45:03,991 --> 00:45:05,799 - Oh yeah, the black presence on TV 871 00:45:05,799 --> 00:45:08,132 has changed America forever. 872 00:45:09,264 --> 00:45:11,079 Just start subtracting black from TV 873 00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:12,461 and then you tell me. 874 00:45:12,461 --> 00:45:14,432 Think of TV without In Living Color, 875 00:45:14,432 --> 00:45:16,571 think of Saturday Night Live without Eddie Murphy. 876 00:45:16,571 --> 00:45:19,538 Think of television without Flip Wilson. 877 00:45:19,538 --> 00:45:20,543 Let's start subtracting, 878 00:45:20,543 --> 00:45:22,003 let's think of TV without Bill Cosby 879 00:45:22,003 --> 00:45:23,690 or Fat Albert and His Boys, 880 00:45:23,690 --> 00:45:27,833 think of TV music without Quincy's themes, Mod Squad. 881 00:45:27,833 --> 00:45:29,877 (funky music) 882 00:45:29,877 --> 00:45:30,710 The Bill Cosby Show. 883 00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:32,097 - What are you gonna do for us this evening, 884 00:45:32,097 --> 00:45:35,483 are you gonna sing or are you gonna play the xylophone? 885 00:45:35,483 --> 00:45:37,085 - Sanford and Son. 886 00:45:37,085 --> 00:45:40,184 Think of TV without Redd Foxx. 887 00:45:40,184 --> 00:45:42,352 Think of TV without George Jefferson, 888 00:45:42,352 --> 00:45:43,931 think of TV without Good Times 889 00:45:43,931 --> 00:45:45,758 and then what you got? 890 00:45:45,758 --> 00:45:47,276 You know what do you got then? 891 00:45:47,276 --> 00:45:50,493 (voice echoes) 892 00:45:50,493 --> 00:45:52,650 - [Announcer] From the primitive rock crystal 893 00:45:52,650 --> 00:45:55,803 of yesterday's radio is the crystal ball of television, 894 00:45:55,803 --> 00:45:58,922 in which is visible a whole new era of communication. 895 00:45:58,922 --> 00:46:01,755 (calm jazz music) 896 00:46:03,633 --> 00:46:05,693 - [Narrator] Technology progressed at breakneck speed 897 00:46:05,693 --> 00:46:07,919 during the first 50 years of television, 898 00:46:07,919 --> 00:46:11,078 but did societies attitudes change as fast? 899 00:46:11,078 --> 00:46:13,143 Black characterizations and concepts 900 00:46:13,143 --> 00:46:15,647 seemed to move at a snail's pace. 901 00:46:15,647 --> 00:46:16,648 - Huh? 902 00:46:16,648 --> 00:46:17,968 - [Narrator] Looking back at the last 20 years 903 00:46:17,968 --> 00:46:20,198 of the 20th century, comedy seemed to be 904 00:46:20,198 --> 00:46:23,718 the comfort genre for television in black. 905 00:46:23,718 --> 00:46:27,551 - Comedy is fun because it makes people laugh. 906 00:46:28,413 --> 00:46:30,283 There's enough sad things. 907 00:46:30,283 --> 00:46:32,494 - Hey, you want to see some nice pictures? 908 00:46:32,494 --> 00:46:34,629 - [Narrator] The changing voice in television comedy 909 00:46:34,629 --> 00:46:37,835 was Bill Cosby in his very first comedy series, 910 00:46:37,835 --> 00:46:40,967 he played gym teacher Chet Kincaid. 911 00:46:40,967 --> 00:46:44,187 - And everybody in this gymnasium at the time 912 00:46:44,187 --> 00:46:48,522 when we start the tryouts is gonna be given a fair chance, 913 00:46:48,522 --> 00:46:50,201 even the little guys. 914 00:46:50,201 --> 00:46:53,584 - Mr. Bill Cosby, that first one that when he did 915 00:46:53,584 --> 00:46:56,019 gym, hit the bod, that whole. 916 00:46:56,019 --> 00:46:57,860 - We can win against Jefferson High School 917 00:46:57,860 --> 00:47:00,391 in two weeks, you'll see and if we don't beat them. 918 00:47:00,391 --> 00:47:02,001 - What? - Well, I'll just 919 00:47:02,001 --> 00:47:04,526 walk right into the mouth of a hippopotamus. 920 00:47:04,526 --> 00:47:07,128 - See you at the zoo. - Ha ha ha. 921 00:47:07,128 --> 00:47:09,516 - In the history of our country, in terms of entertainment 922 00:47:09,516 --> 00:47:11,366 there's always been someone at the top of the heap 923 00:47:11,366 --> 00:47:14,760 that was black with respect to comedy. 924 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,215 - [Narrator] At the top of that heap 925 00:47:16,215 --> 00:47:20,035 were Redd Foxx, Flip Wilson and Bill Cosby, 926 00:47:20,035 --> 00:47:22,579 but from the bottom came a bigot 927 00:47:22,579 --> 00:47:24,672 to hand out some real life truths. 928 00:47:24,672 --> 00:47:26,775 His name was Archie Bunker, 929 00:47:26,775 --> 00:47:30,203 an unrepentant racist and homophobe. 930 00:47:30,203 --> 00:47:31,204 - I've been thinking-- 931 00:47:31,204 --> 00:47:32,723 - Don't do no more of that. 932 00:47:32,723 --> 00:47:36,345 - Oh, look at this, you've got him on his lap already. 933 00:47:36,345 --> 00:47:40,179 You'll be churning out homie through a massage parlor. 934 00:47:40,179 --> 00:47:41,787 - [Narrator] Even though All in the Family 935 00:47:41,787 --> 00:47:44,185 was criticized as being too bold, 936 00:47:44,185 --> 00:47:46,620 it was an important move toward realism. 937 00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:48,835 - You know what I like about you Archie? 938 00:47:48,835 --> 00:47:49,975 - What's that Maude? 939 00:47:49,975 --> 00:47:52,235 - Nothing. (audience laughs) 940 00:47:52,235 --> 00:47:53,393 - But it was honest. 941 00:47:53,393 --> 00:47:54,748 And that's what I appreciate about it. 942 00:47:54,748 --> 00:47:56,189 It was an honest show. 943 00:47:56,189 --> 00:47:57,775 I think sometimes we get so into 944 00:47:57,775 --> 00:47:59,858 we want to be politically correct, 945 00:47:59,858 --> 00:48:02,201 oh no, you can't put a racist on TV, 946 00:48:02,201 --> 00:48:04,299 it's honest, it's what it was, 947 00:48:04,299 --> 00:48:05,667 it's who that character was. 948 00:48:05,667 --> 00:48:08,681 I appreciate it, even as a child, I thought it was funny. 949 00:48:08,681 --> 00:48:10,033 - I mean nothing personal, but you know a guy 950 00:48:10,033 --> 00:48:12,048 could go broke just buying wedding presents 951 00:48:12,048 --> 00:48:13,945 for your side of the family. 952 00:48:13,945 --> 00:48:15,847 - And still fighting mental health. 953 00:48:15,847 --> 00:48:18,483 - I was like oh, he was wild. 954 00:48:18,483 --> 00:48:20,663 And then when they introduced George Jefferson, 955 00:48:20,663 --> 00:48:22,445 that just put the icing on the cake for me, 956 00:48:22,445 --> 00:48:24,706 like oh ho, somebody's firing back. 957 00:48:24,706 --> 00:48:28,864 - It's part of black heritage it's called hutzpah. 958 00:48:28,864 --> 00:48:32,183 (audience laughs) 959 00:48:32,183 --> 00:48:34,857 - Hutzpah, that's a Jewish word. 960 00:48:34,857 --> 00:48:37,165 - So was ghetto till we got a hold of. 961 00:48:37,165 --> 00:48:38,848 - Hi daddy! 962 00:48:38,848 --> 00:48:41,542 - Yes, of course everyone watched All in the Family 963 00:48:41,542 --> 00:48:45,292 and All in the Family was a wonderful TV show 964 00:48:46,353 --> 00:48:49,561 and it was so raw and so real that the lead character 965 00:48:49,561 --> 00:48:52,998 was a bigot you know and he had to introduce 966 00:48:52,998 --> 00:48:55,843 black people into that in order for his character 967 00:48:55,843 --> 00:48:59,353 to be his character and Carroll O'Connor who was 968 00:48:59,353 --> 00:49:02,400 one of the greatest actors ever in life 969 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,903 pulled it off wonderfully, you know 970 00:49:05,903 --> 00:49:09,448 and so yeah, All in the Family was the first show 971 00:49:09,448 --> 00:49:13,315 that I remember that came right down front with it. 972 00:49:13,315 --> 00:49:16,224 - The sitcoms became even more buffoonish. 973 00:49:16,224 --> 00:49:18,453 A good example of that is Good Times, 974 00:49:18,453 --> 00:49:20,870 ♪ Good Times ♪ 975 00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:24,373 which was a spinoff of Maude, 976 00:49:24,373 --> 00:49:26,987 a semi-spinoff of Maude, the first series 977 00:49:26,987 --> 00:49:29,455 on television created by African Americans, 978 00:49:29,455 --> 00:49:32,787 Eric Monte and Michael Evans and it's interesting 979 00:49:32,787 --> 00:49:34,381 that both of them walked out of the show 980 00:49:34,381 --> 00:49:36,387 after a year because they just couldn't take it. 981 00:49:36,387 --> 00:49:38,623 - Where is all the food in this refrigerator? 982 00:49:38,623 --> 00:49:39,973 There ain't nothing in here, but some cold lamb 983 00:49:39,973 --> 00:49:41,916 and a lonesome leg bone. 984 00:49:41,916 --> 00:49:43,455 - It's also fitting that when interviews 985 00:49:43,455 --> 00:49:45,271 are done about Good Times, which is about 986 00:49:45,271 --> 00:49:48,133 the life of African American family in the projects 987 00:49:48,133 --> 00:49:52,340 of Chicago when interviews are done the cast members 988 00:49:52,340 --> 00:49:54,566 are embarrassed to have been involved with it, 989 00:49:54,566 --> 00:49:56,987 the African American writers are embarrassed 990 00:49:56,987 --> 00:49:58,782 to have been involved with it and then they talk 991 00:49:58,782 --> 00:50:01,344 to the Caucasian producers and they say 992 00:50:01,344 --> 00:50:04,034 we were doing this breakthrough show. 993 00:50:04,034 --> 00:50:06,049 So was it a breakthrough? 994 00:50:06,049 --> 00:50:07,759 Well maybe for some people. 995 00:50:07,759 --> 00:50:08,925 Was it embarrassing? 996 00:50:08,925 --> 00:50:10,483 Apparently for others. 997 00:50:10,483 --> 00:50:12,565 - You wouldn't do that to Henry Kissinger. 998 00:50:12,565 --> 00:50:14,513 - Henry ain't got what you got. 999 00:50:14,513 --> 00:50:15,996 - I thought Good Times was very funny. 1000 00:50:15,996 --> 00:50:19,489 I thought that at that time it was very honest. 1001 00:50:19,489 --> 00:50:20,572 At that time, 1002 00:50:23,209 --> 00:50:25,053 I'm not gonna say all, but a large percentage 1003 00:50:25,053 --> 00:50:27,383 of black people could relate to that show. 1004 00:50:27,383 --> 00:50:29,591 Me personally, I've always lived in the suburbs, 1005 00:50:29,591 --> 00:50:32,625 always had both parents, they always had great jobs. 1006 00:50:32,625 --> 00:50:35,749 We very middle class, upper middle class family, 1007 00:50:35,749 --> 00:50:37,799 but it was very funny, it was entertaining, 1008 00:50:37,799 --> 00:50:40,982 I enjoyed it, I loved JJ, I loved Velma, 1009 00:50:40,982 --> 00:50:44,143 I loved seeing this black teenage who was hip and funky 1010 00:50:44,143 --> 00:50:46,366 and was just a glamour doll. 1011 00:50:46,366 --> 00:50:49,558 I loved that, I said wow and I had a older sister 1012 00:50:49,558 --> 00:50:52,659 who I was like ooh I see her wear her makeup and her clothes 1013 00:50:52,659 --> 00:50:54,975 do that it was entertaining. 1014 00:50:54,975 --> 00:50:56,257 Like I didn't look at it and say, 1015 00:50:56,257 --> 00:50:58,040 oh, I can't believe they put these niggers on TV 1016 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,603 and look how they acted, no. 1017 00:51:00,603 --> 00:51:02,307 - It's gonna be fun all we need now is an 1018 00:51:02,307 --> 00:51:04,389 Indian and Chinamen and we make up a rainbow. 1019 00:51:04,389 --> 00:51:05,808 - The Jeffersons followed that. 1020 00:51:05,808 --> 00:51:07,416 Now here you have a character that was supposed 1021 00:51:07,416 --> 00:51:09,276 to be the flip side of Archie Bunker, 1022 00:51:09,276 --> 00:51:11,126 the character of George Jefferson. 1023 00:51:11,126 --> 00:51:13,723 He was an African American who was financially successful. 1024 00:51:13,723 --> 00:51:16,743 He had a chain of drying cleaning stores. 1025 00:51:16,743 --> 00:51:18,243 Was it buffoonish? 1026 00:51:19,634 --> 00:51:20,551 You decide. 1027 00:51:23,071 --> 00:51:27,719 - I started out as a guest on the very first show 1028 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,911 and I had the line how come we overcame and nobody told me? 1029 00:51:30,911 --> 00:51:33,677 How come we overcame and nobody told me? 1030 00:51:33,677 --> 00:51:35,215 They got such a big laugh that they decided 1031 00:51:35,215 --> 00:51:37,393 to write something else for me, 1032 00:51:37,393 --> 00:51:38,859 but I wasn't in that show, 1033 00:51:38,859 --> 00:51:41,553 and I wasn't expected to be in that show. 1034 00:51:41,553 --> 00:51:43,321 I did the fifth show and then they wrote something else 1035 00:51:43,321 --> 00:51:45,362 and I came back on the eighth show 1036 00:51:45,362 --> 00:51:48,362 and then they offered me a contract. 1037 00:51:49,638 --> 00:51:51,589 - I've decided to back Conroy instead. 1038 00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:52,683 He's the better man. 1039 00:51:52,683 --> 00:51:54,418 - I should have known. 1040 00:51:54,418 --> 00:51:56,724 - What was funny about it was the fact that George Jefferson 1041 00:51:56,724 --> 00:51:58,974 was the black Archie Bunker 1042 00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:04,615 and plus George Jefferson was he always wanted to be 1043 00:52:04,615 --> 00:52:09,187 really hip you know (laughs) 1044 00:52:09,187 --> 00:52:11,669 in the know and all that 1045 00:52:11,669 --> 00:52:13,885 and I just think that Sherman played 1046 00:52:13,885 --> 00:52:15,852 a wonderful George Jefferson 1047 00:52:15,852 --> 00:52:18,305 and everybody on the show was great. 1048 00:52:18,305 --> 00:52:21,153 Everybody played their character so great. 1049 00:52:21,153 --> 00:52:23,103 - Well I think The Jeffersons represented 1050 00:52:23,103 --> 00:52:25,275 a cross section of society, 1051 00:52:25,275 --> 00:52:29,469 you had me for the masses of people who worked at a job 1052 00:52:29,469 --> 00:52:31,111 and who has a boss, they have a boss 1053 00:52:31,111 --> 00:52:33,981 and they like to tell that boss off sometimes, 1054 00:52:33,981 --> 00:52:36,615 but they can't, because they might get fired. 1055 00:52:36,615 --> 00:52:39,082 And then you have Ralph the Doorman, 1056 00:52:39,082 --> 00:52:42,265 played by Ned Waterman and he represented 1057 00:52:42,265 --> 00:52:44,893 all the people who worked for tips. 1058 00:52:44,893 --> 00:52:46,781 And then we had the Willises 1059 00:52:46,781 --> 00:52:48,649 and that was an interracial marriage, 1060 00:52:48,649 --> 00:52:50,796 people always wanted to know what goes on there, 1061 00:52:50,796 --> 00:52:55,208 so we got a chance to peep in and see that relationship. 1062 00:52:55,208 --> 00:52:59,310 Then we had Mother Jefferson who was Zara Cully, 1063 00:52:59,310 --> 00:53:02,975 so the seniors really related to what she did. 1064 00:53:02,975 --> 00:53:05,634 So she picked up all the things like social security 1065 00:53:05,634 --> 00:53:07,717 problems and all of that. 1066 00:53:09,003 --> 00:53:12,699 Then you have The Jeffersons, without benefit of education, 1067 00:53:12,699 --> 00:53:17,449 they became a success, so we had something for everybody. 1068 00:53:19,793 --> 00:53:21,339 - Here's a vivid moment I remember, 1069 00:53:21,339 --> 00:53:23,294 this happened in The Jeffersons. 1070 00:53:23,294 --> 00:53:26,839 Moses Gunn the great actor and Sherman Hensley 1071 00:53:26,839 --> 00:53:30,867 had a scene where Moses Gunn was the interloper 1072 00:53:30,867 --> 00:53:34,893 and he was getting on George Jefferson's nerves 1073 00:53:34,893 --> 00:53:38,393 and George Jefferson they started to fight 1074 00:53:39,539 --> 00:53:41,346 and the two men had gotten to the point 1075 00:53:41,346 --> 00:53:43,010 where their fists were cocked 1076 00:53:43,010 --> 00:53:46,385 and drawn back and Moses Gunn and I don't know 1077 00:53:46,385 --> 00:53:49,539 if this was scripted, but he says to George Jefferson, 1078 00:53:49,539 --> 00:53:52,153 you know, you know, tight fists pulled back 1079 00:53:52,153 --> 00:53:54,167 ready to hit him, "Nigger!" 1080 00:53:54,167 --> 00:53:56,669 And I had was like again I was blown away, 1081 00:53:56,669 --> 00:54:00,669 because it was so authentic, I knew it was real. 1082 00:54:02,029 --> 00:54:03,529 I knew it was real 1083 00:54:05,981 --> 00:54:10,981 and something told me but that wasn't supposed to be said. 1084 00:54:11,420 --> 00:54:13,420 You know that was vivid. 1085 00:54:16,699 --> 00:54:17,736 - [Announcer] The following program 1086 00:54:17,736 --> 00:54:21,153 is brought to you in living color on NBC. 1087 00:54:24,278 --> 00:54:26,391 - [Narrator] Television comedy then took another route 1088 00:54:26,391 --> 00:54:29,841 as stand up comedian Richard Pryor got his own show, 1089 00:54:29,841 --> 00:54:33,365 resulting in a firestorm of controversy. 1090 00:54:33,365 --> 00:54:34,669 - NBC loved Richard. 1091 00:54:34,669 --> 00:54:36,720 It gave them new blood, they were alive, 1092 00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:38,544 all the executives would come down. 1093 00:54:38,544 --> 00:54:41,835 I mean every day there was a new surprise. 1094 00:54:41,835 --> 00:54:44,521 - Saturday night, they always call it nigger night, 1095 00:54:44,521 --> 00:54:46,449 because white folks go out about eight and leave 1096 00:54:46,449 --> 00:54:48,791 and go home at 10:00, and leave it to the niggers 1097 00:54:48,791 --> 00:54:50,188 because it gets thick. 1098 00:54:50,188 --> 00:54:52,217 - Those execs, now they had Richard. 1099 00:54:52,217 --> 00:54:53,326 They had something to worry about, 1100 00:54:53,326 --> 00:54:54,549 something to bother them, 1101 00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:57,373 something to let you know that they had a job. 1102 00:54:57,373 --> 00:55:01,165 - You can eat 24 hours a day in America. 1103 00:55:01,165 --> 00:55:03,622 I said yes, you got some money or a pistol, 1104 00:55:03,622 --> 00:55:05,344 you can get something to eat. 1105 00:55:05,344 --> 00:55:07,095 - They loved every second of it. 1106 00:55:07,095 --> 00:55:09,615 It was Richard that quit, not them. 1107 00:55:09,615 --> 00:55:11,242 They were fascinated with Richard. 1108 00:55:11,242 --> 00:55:12,893 He was breaking all the rules. 1109 00:55:12,893 --> 00:55:13,965 People used to stand around 1110 00:55:13,965 --> 00:55:17,774 and watch our show like it was church. 1111 00:55:17,774 --> 00:55:19,618 When The Richard Pryor Show when those specials came on 1112 00:55:19,618 --> 00:55:22,199 people in bars people were standing 1113 00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:25,704 they were loving it, they'd never seen anything like it, 1114 00:55:25,704 --> 00:55:29,271 you know this is the mother of In Living Color 1115 00:55:29,271 --> 00:55:31,815 and the rest of those shows. 1116 00:55:31,815 --> 00:55:34,187 We did a special and about six, seven episodes, 1117 00:55:34,187 --> 00:55:35,449 they're all classics now. 1118 00:55:35,449 --> 00:55:38,597 If you watch them now, they're very funny now. 1119 00:55:38,597 --> 00:55:40,078 - You got any reefer? 1120 00:55:40,078 --> 00:55:41,455 Knowing he was cool and he was clean. 1121 00:55:41,455 --> 00:55:43,047 You got any reefer bro? 1122 00:55:43,047 --> 00:55:45,387 You know I used to practice at home, 1123 00:55:45,387 --> 00:55:46,477 try to get my shit together, 1124 00:55:46,477 --> 00:55:48,635 you got any reefer, in front of the man, 1125 00:55:48,635 --> 00:55:50,557 you got any reefer, you got any reefer? 1126 00:55:50,557 --> 00:55:53,185 I'd ask anybody cops I'd be like you got any reefer? 1127 00:55:53,185 --> 00:55:54,944 Sure have young fellow right this way. 1128 00:55:54,944 --> 00:55:58,661 - When you write something that deals with the truth 1129 00:55:58,661 --> 00:56:02,281 and it's earnest and it's political and social, 1130 00:56:02,281 --> 00:56:04,848 it lasts forever you know. 1131 00:56:04,848 --> 00:56:06,002 - Right the cops always pull up, 1132 00:56:06,002 --> 00:56:08,567 put your hands up white boy (screams) 1133 00:56:08,567 --> 00:56:09,772 I didn't do nothing! 1134 00:56:09,772 --> 00:56:11,447 Put your hands against the wall! 1135 00:56:11,447 --> 00:56:12,435 There ain't no wall. 1136 00:56:12,435 --> 00:56:13,466 Find one. 1137 00:56:13,466 --> 00:56:15,029 - Brilliant. 1138 00:56:15,029 --> 00:56:15,862 Brilliant. 1139 00:56:17,333 --> 00:56:20,399 I'm saddened to see his physical ability 1140 00:56:20,399 --> 00:56:22,938 and his health be where it is, 1141 00:56:22,938 --> 00:56:24,871 but he was brilliant, and you know what 1142 00:56:24,871 --> 00:56:28,566 I love those guys, because they didn't change. 1143 00:56:28,566 --> 00:56:31,562 They didn't do what somebody else said you should do. 1144 00:56:31,562 --> 00:56:33,969 They did what they felt was right in their heart. 1145 00:56:33,969 --> 00:56:36,097 - My neighborhood didn't have no candy stores in it, 1146 00:56:36,097 --> 00:56:38,245 right, there was a lot of whorehouses. 1147 00:56:38,245 --> 00:56:40,466 That's right man like you could walk down my street 1148 00:56:40,466 --> 00:56:42,053 and you say hey your mother is a whore right, 1149 00:56:42,053 --> 00:56:45,872 20 dudes go huh, who you talking about? 1150 00:56:45,872 --> 00:56:48,120 - It's about using comedy the way Richard Pryor 1151 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,036 used comedy, you know as intelligence 1152 00:56:51,036 --> 00:56:54,044 to take some of the things in society 1153 00:56:54,044 --> 00:56:57,877 that are really negative and hard to deal with 1154 00:56:58,829 --> 00:57:00,625 and making people laugh about them, 1155 00:57:00,625 --> 00:57:03,014 but in laughing about them, think about it. 1156 00:57:03,014 --> 00:57:06,080 I saw Richard Pryor many times walk into a room 1157 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,971 and he was probably high, 1158 00:57:07,971 --> 00:57:10,500 but that was his thing, 1159 00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:12,414 that that was where his edge came from 1160 00:57:12,414 --> 00:57:14,142 and just alienated everybody in the room 1161 00:57:14,142 --> 00:57:16,700 and before that show was over, they were eating 1162 00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:17,945 out of the palm of his hands. 1163 00:57:17,945 --> 00:57:19,995 The man was a true genius. 1164 00:57:19,995 --> 00:57:23,841 - Come on, get down, baby, push me, push me again now. 1165 00:57:23,841 --> 00:57:27,219 ♪ What you see ♪ 1166 00:57:27,219 --> 00:57:28,885 ♪ Is what you get ♪ 1167 00:57:28,885 --> 00:57:30,499 - [Narrator] As both black television 1168 00:57:30,499 --> 00:57:34,404 and the 1970s progressed America finally experienced 1169 00:57:34,404 --> 00:57:38,135 a black drama with the miniseries Roots. 1170 00:57:38,135 --> 00:57:41,192 - [Announcer] January 1977, America shared with 1171 00:57:41,192 --> 00:57:44,336 Alex Haley the saga of his family's roots. 1172 00:57:44,336 --> 00:57:47,576 - Hear me oh African. - Aired over eight nights 1173 00:57:47,576 --> 00:57:50,899 in 1977, Roots became a television event, 1174 00:57:50,899 --> 00:57:54,343 not only for African Americans, but for all Americans 1175 00:57:54,343 --> 00:57:56,881 and the program attracted an estimated 1176 00:57:56,881 --> 00:57:59,261 130 million viewers becoming 1177 00:57:59,261 --> 00:58:02,137 the highest rated miniseries ever. 1178 00:58:02,137 --> 00:58:04,335 It still holds that record. 1179 00:58:04,335 --> 00:58:07,335 - But Roots was it was a phenomenon. 1180 00:58:08,339 --> 00:58:12,453 However, I don't know if it changed television. 1181 00:58:12,453 --> 00:58:14,662 I don't know if it did you know. 1182 00:58:14,662 --> 00:58:17,191 There were wonderful performances, 1183 00:58:17,191 --> 00:58:20,108 but I don't know if all of a sudden 1184 00:58:24,169 --> 00:58:25,728 we were everywhere, 1185 00:58:25,728 --> 00:58:29,978 because the kind of ratings and the kind of numbers 1186 00:58:30,852 --> 00:58:35,602 that Roots got we should have been everywhere afterwards. 1187 00:58:36,441 --> 00:58:38,353 - [Narrator] Although hundreds of millions of viewers 1188 00:58:38,353 --> 00:58:41,602 did tune in to Roots, comedy still seemed 1189 00:58:41,602 --> 00:58:45,129 the favorite vehicle for African American on television. 1190 00:58:45,129 --> 00:58:47,412 Many still wonder what it is about the comical 1191 00:58:47,412 --> 00:58:49,613 stereotypes that capture the nation 1192 00:58:49,613 --> 00:58:51,815 in a cultural stronghold. 1193 00:58:51,815 --> 00:58:55,049 - One of the greatest tragedies is when 1194 00:58:55,049 --> 00:58:58,919 a community who ultimately cares very little 1195 00:58:58,919 --> 00:59:02,411 about you has complete control over 1196 00:59:02,411 --> 00:59:04,551 the image of your community 1197 00:59:04,551 --> 00:59:07,718 and they show so little regard for us, 1198 00:59:09,485 --> 00:59:13,402 but ultimately it's what is our responsibility. 1199 00:59:14,375 --> 00:59:16,329 But you see you have so many of us 1200 00:59:16,329 --> 00:59:18,872 that will sell that out, you have so many of us 1201 00:59:18,872 --> 00:59:20,833 that's willing to be the buffoons. 1202 00:59:20,833 --> 00:59:23,744 - We get a lot of criticism for The Parkers, a lot, 1203 00:59:23,744 --> 00:59:25,784 I've had people e-mail me and say, 1204 00:59:25,784 --> 00:59:27,888 I can't believe you're doing that buffoonery. 1205 00:59:27,888 --> 00:59:29,545 What's buffoonery about that? 1206 00:59:29,545 --> 00:59:32,297 It's two black women both in college, 1207 00:59:32,297 --> 00:59:35,465 there's a black man who's a professor, what's buffoonery? 1208 00:59:35,465 --> 00:59:37,500 Yes, Nicki Parker is very physical. 1209 00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:38,731 Lucille Ball was very physical. 1210 00:59:38,731 --> 00:59:41,564 (audience laughs) 1211 00:59:42,653 --> 00:59:44,887 Did they e-mail her and say it was buffoonery? 1212 00:59:44,887 --> 00:59:47,148 They said she was a genius and she was funny. 1213 00:59:47,148 --> 00:59:51,581 So I take that with a grain of salt, I brush it right away. 1214 00:59:51,581 --> 00:59:54,946 - I know what you're thinking, you see Foggie and Beth? 1215 00:59:54,946 --> 00:59:57,469 We can make it baby, me and you. 1216 00:59:57,469 --> 00:59:59,250 - I look at Eddie Murphy and I see 1217 00:59:59,250 --> 01:00:02,316 the ghost of Mantan Moreland or Stepin Fetchit 1218 01:00:02,316 --> 01:00:04,655 or Rochester, Willie Bess. 1219 01:00:04,655 --> 01:00:07,589 These people's image back in the day 1220 01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:11,188 were some of the only black images you saw on film 1221 01:00:11,188 --> 01:00:13,377 and a lot of people maybe embraced them 1222 01:00:13,377 --> 01:00:15,464 because they wanted these images as opposed 1223 01:00:15,464 --> 01:00:17,883 to no images, but the legacy they left behind 1224 01:00:17,883 --> 01:00:20,757 many of these modern day comics have picked up on 1225 01:00:20,757 --> 01:00:24,387 and it's more about you know being funny 1226 01:00:24,387 --> 01:00:26,643 and getting a laugh at any expense 1227 01:00:26,643 --> 01:00:30,015 than it is about intelligence or wit. 1228 01:00:30,015 --> 01:00:31,833 - Did you know that every seven minutes 1229 01:00:31,833 --> 01:00:35,199 a black person is born in this country without soul? 1230 01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:39,790 ♪ Tiger yellow ringing around the old old tree ♪ 1231 01:00:39,790 --> 01:00:42,852 - I just think that there's room for all kinds 1232 01:00:42,852 --> 01:00:45,447 of humor without having to put a judgment on 1233 01:00:45,447 --> 01:00:49,797 you know what's acceptable and what's not acceptable. 1234 01:00:49,797 --> 01:00:52,221 - See you at the zoo. - Ha ha ha. 1235 01:00:52,221 --> 01:00:56,249 - I think what's hard is when there's not a balance. 1236 01:00:56,249 --> 01:00:59,750 - You have so many of us that's willing to 1237 01:00:59,750 --> 01:01:02,667 perpetuate the negative stereotypes 1238 01:01:04,399 --> 01:01:06,703 that have been perpetuated for so long, 1239 01:01:06,703 --> 01:01:09,309 so when we start seemingly making progress 1240 01:01:09,309 --> 01:01:12,451 we don't shift into another gear and say 1241 01:01:12,451 --> 01:01:15,750 now it's time to make even more demands 1242 01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:17,319 and to be even more unified. 1243 01:01:17,319 --> 01:01:18,485 We don't have that. 1244 01:01:18,485 --> 01:01:19,615 - We as African American people 1245 01:01:19,615 --> 01:01:21,103 we're so critical of each other, 1246 01:01:21,103 --> 01:01:24,724 like remember the sitcom Homeboys from Outer Space? 1247 01:01:24,724 --> 01:01:26,760 And everybody said oh my God that is just 1248 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,078 such a disgrace to the race, anybody would have taken 1249 01:01:29,078 --> 01:01:31,762 that part and I don't fault Flex, 1250 01:01:31,762 --> 01:01:34,841 and I said Flex, do your job we're actors 1251 01:01:34,841 --> 01:01:36,401 and that's what you were paid to do. 1252 01:01:36,401 --> 01:01:39,251 To act, did it go a little over the top? 1253 01:01:39,251 --> 01:01:41,301 Of course it did, that's what comedies do, 1254 01:01:41,301 --> 01:01:42,509 we go over the top. 1255 01:01:42,509 --> 01:01:45,353 Friends live in New York and don't lock their door. 1256 01:01:45,353 --> 01:01:47,028 That's over the top. 1257 01:01:47,028 --> 01:01:49,528 Seinfeld lives in New York, doesn't lock his door. 1258 01:01:49,528 --> 01:01:50,540 That's over the top. 1259 01:01:50,540 --> 01:01:53,528 On Drew Carey, Minnie wears light blue eyeshadow 1260 01:01:53,528 --> 01:01:55,477 and big muumuus that's over the top. 1261 01:01:55,477 --> 01:01:57,733 That's what we do, that's what we do 1262 01:01:57,733 --> 01:02:00,254 so I am like why are we so critical? 1263 01:02:00,254 --> 01:02:02,232 Why are we picking it apart for a fine tooth comb? 1264 01:02:02,232 --> 01:02:05,719 For 30 minutes, my job is to make you laugh. 1265 01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:08,318 (calm jazz music) 1266 01:02:08,318 --> 01:02:10,281 - [Narrator] The black images on television 1267 01:02:10,281 --> 01:02:13,781 in comedy, drama, sports, news and variety 1268 01:02:15,129 --> 01:02:17,509 have always inspired young hopefuls 1269 01:02:17,509 --> 01:02:19,847 with dreams of their own. 1270 01:02:19,847 --> 01:02:22,680 - I remember watching Cos on I Spy 1271 01:02:24,967 --> 01:02:28,247 with Robert Culp and saying now 1272 01:02:28,247 --> 01:02:31,330 that's the kind of role I want to do. 1273 01:02:33,319 --> 01:02:35,444 And then for him to win the Emmys 1274 01:02:35,444 --> 01:02:37,163 and win the recognition that he did, 1275 01:02:37,163 --> 01:02:40,175 to take that opportunity to do so well with it 1276 01:02:40,175 --> 01:02:43,342 was really I think just groundbreaking 1277 01:02:46,198 --> 01:02:49,435 and opened up a lot of doors. 1278 01:02:49,435 --> 01:02:51,685 - I can remember sitting in 1279 01:02:52,755 --> 01:02:56,054 our apartment in Harlem as a little girl 1280 01:02:56,054 --> 01:02:59,471 watching award shows and thinking one day 1281 01:03:00,833 --> 01:03:03,063 I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna go up there 1282 01:03:03,063 --> 01:03:06,123 and I'm gonna get an award and I have a vivid recollection 1283 01:03:06,123 --> 01:03:09,729 of that so I must have been like six. 1284 01:03:09,729 --> 01:03:12,096 - Muhhamad Ali fought Joe Frazier 1285 01:03:12,096 --> 01:03:15,179 and it was a such a significant fight 1286 01:03:16,999 --> 01:03:18,999 because Joe was the guy. 1287 01:03:22,497 --> 01:03:23,997 Because Ali he was 1288 01:03:25,921 --> 01:03:28,793 going through a hiatus I would say 1289 01:03:28,793 --> 01:03:33,210 and they fought and when Joe Frazier knocked him down 1290 01:03:34,133 --> 01:03:36,716 to win that fight there it just 1291 01:03:38,513 --> 01:03:40,849 it stuck in my mind for many, many years 1292 01:03:40,849 --> 01:03:44,099 because Muhhamad Ali to me was the best 1293 01:03:45,872 --> 01:03:49,372 because he talked trash and he was pretty. 1294 01:03:50,243 --> 01:03:54,993 Ali was a prime model that mold I wanted to be born from. 1295 01:03:56,042 --> 01:03:58,510 - This brainwashing the Negroes see, 1296 01:03:58,510 --> 01:04:00,249 then he goes to the drug store 1297 01:04:00,249 --> 01:04:01,653 he orders two different ice cream, 1298 01:04:01,653 --> 01:04:03,110 he says I want a different chocolate, 1299 01:04:03,110 --> 01:04:04,431 a different vanilla and every time 1300 01:04:04,431 --> 01:04:06,114 they put the chocolate on the bottom 1301 01:04:06,114 --> 01:04:07,962 and the vanilla on the top. 1302 01:04:07,962 --> 01:04:10,379 - What he brought to the ring was entertainment, 1303 01:04:10,379 --> 01:04:13,559 not just fisticuffs, not just guys boxing each other, 1304 01:04:13,559 --> 01:04:17,226 he brought style, grace, beauty to the ring. 1305 01:04:18,303 --> 01:04:20,886 Outside the ring he was able to 1306 01:04:22,609 --> 01:04:25,378 grab the public's imagination to show them 1307 01:04:25,378 --> 01:04:28,284 that black is beautiful, that black is strong 1308 01:04:28,284 --> 01:04:30,931 that black is wonderful. 1309 01:04:30,931 --> 01:04:33,263 - Every day you got a headache with Negro 1310 01:04:33,263 --> 01:04:35,524 that has been brainwashed by your kind 1311 01:04:35,524 --> 01:04:37,219 so now it's our job to re-brainwash him 1312 01:04:37,219 --> 01:04:38,832 to teach him that rich dirt is black dirt, 1313 01:04:38,832 --> 01:04:42,443 don't feel bad, strong confidence is black confidence, 1314 01:04:42,443 --> 01:04:44,608 you understand, you make them re-integrated 1315 01:04:44,608 --> 01:04:46,813 with black folks, you know what I'm saying? 1316 01:04:46,813 --> 01:04:48,050 So now he feels proud, 1317 01:04:48,050 --> 01:04:49,788 now he's not begging no more. 1318 01:04:49,788 --> 01:04:51,488 Now he wants to be himself, he's not worrying you 1319 01:04:51,488 --> 01:04:54,096 no more so he needs some black history 1320 01:04:54,096 --> 01:04:55,769 and he needs some black culture 1321 01:04:55,769 --> 01:04:58,303 so he'll know who he is and be proud 1322 01:04:58,303 --> 01:05:01,650 to be who he is and quit worrying you so much. 1323 01:05:01,650 --> 01:05:06,650 ♪ Oh wherever my man is ♪ 1324 01:05:08,308 --> 01:05:10,558 ♪ I'm here ♪ 1325 01:05:12,648 --> 01:05:15,893 - Diana Ross, Diana Ross, it was Lady Sings the Blues, 1326 01:05:15,893 --> 01:05:19,327 it came on television and that was the first 1327 01:05:19,327 --> 01:05:23,028 African American woman that I saw on TV really doing it. 1328 01:05:23,028 --> 01:05:24,533 - You can't fight it when you're hooked 1329 01:05:24,533 --> 01:05:26,722 and you are hooked. 1330 01:05:26,722 --> 01:05:29,055 (screaming) 1331 01:05:30,215 --> 01:05:32,798 - Give it to me, give it to me. 1332 01:05:34,643 --> 01:05:36,578 - You'd kill me for it, wouldn't you? 1333 01:05:36,578 --> 01:05:39,319 - She is a huge reason why I'm an actor today. 1334 01:05:39,319 --> 01:05:41,714 - For me it was Paul Robeson 1335 01:05:41,714 --> 01:05:45,986 and he kind of transformed, he mesmerized me. 1336 01:05:45,986 --> 01:05:50,986 ♪ And I go tramp, tramp, tramping on getting ♪ 1337 01:05:51,424 --> 01:05:52,507 I command it. 1338 01:05:53,623 --> 01:05:56,110 He had such a commanding presence. 1339 01:05:56,110 --> 01:05:59,831 I remember him singing Sweet Lola, Sweet Chariot (laughs) 1340 01:05:59,831 --> 01:06:02,370 in that deep, deep voice resonating. 1341 01:06:02,370 --> 01:06:06,907 - [Agent] This tape will self-destruct in five seconds. 1342 01:06:06,907 --> 01:06:09,152 - Greg Morris from Mission: Impossible, 1343 01:06:09,152 --> 01:06:13,152 I mean my house was full of the detective shows. 1344 01:06:14,367 --> 01:06:17,098 - [Narrator] As deep as the canyons of Manhattan after dark. 1345 01:06:17,098 --> 01:06:18,667 - I'm with you boss. 1346 01:06:18,667 --> 01:06:20,763 - The cowboy shows. - Four queens. 1347 01:06:20,763 --> 01:06:22,617 (crowd shouts) - My dad was really 1348 01:06:22,617 --> 01:06:25,958 into that so I do remember seeing Greg Morris 1349 01:06:25,958 --> 01:06:27,965 and I really like the fact that he was 1350 01:06:27,965 --> 01:06:30,374 such a professional man and that he was smooth 1351 01:06:30,374 --> 01:06:33,134 and good looking and he could carry his word 1352 01:06:33,134 --> 01:06:35,954 so well and he was a hero. 1353 01:06:35,954 --> 01:06:38,246 I mean he helped crack a lot of cases. 1354 01:06:38,246 --> 01:06:40,934 And he was respected by his peers in the business 1355 01:06:40,934 --> 01:06:43,647 of what we saw on television. 1356 01:06:43,647 --> 01:06:46,564 I think that was really impressive. 1357 01:06:48,183 --> 01:06:49,456 - [Narrator] One of the earliest doors to be opened 1358 01:06:49,456 --> 01:06:53,377 for black talent was opened with a gun and a badge. 1359 01:06:53,377 --> 01:06:55,675 Television cops became very popular icons 1360 01:06:55,675 --> 01:06:58,410 for black youths, but one in particular, 1361 01:06:58,410 --> 01:07:01,174 a female cop would set the precedence. 1362 01:07:01,174 --> 01:07:04,112 Her name was Christie Love. 1363 01:07:04,112 --> 01:07:06,771 - But what a way to do it! - I did it? 1364 01:07:06,771 --> 01:07:08,663 I suppose I called down to room service 1365 01:07:08,663 --> 01:07:11,206 and asked them to send up one killer? 1366 01:07:11,206 --> 01:07:14,539 (raucous hip hop music) 1367 01:07:19,675 --> 01:07:20,569 - Christie, you know what you've got? 1368 01:07:20,569 --> 01:07:22,470 You've got hutzpah, that's what you've got. 1369 01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:25,259 - [Narrator] But black police heroes didn't end there, 1370 01:07:25,259 --> 01:07:29,159 Clarence Williams III as Link on Mod Squad. 1371 01:07:29,159 --> 01:07:31,994 - I'm sorry, but my hands are tied. 1372 01:07:31,994 --> 01:07:33,082 - I resign. 1373 01:07:33,082 --> 01:07:35,915 (funky 70s music) 1374 01:07:41,018 --> 01:07:44,483 - [Narrator] George Sanford Brown on Rookies. 1375 01:07:44,483 --> 01:07:46,539 - We've got to create an atmosphere of trust 1376 01:07:46,539 --> 01:07:48,360 in the community and you don't do that by 1377 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,953 calling Riker and half the police force in on this. 1378 01:07:50,953 --> 01:07:52,493 - Mike you made a mistake. 1379 01:07:52,493 --> 01:07:54,639 You get a piece of the blame, so does Webster, 1380 01:07:54,639 --> 01:07:57,498 do does Gillus, you don't all the credit when you're right. 1381 01:07:57,498 --> 01:07:59,926 You don't get all the blame when you're wrong. 1382 01:07:59,926 --> 01:08:03,494 All right where are we and where are we gonna go? 1383 01:08:03,494 --> 01:08:07,220 - [Narrator] And Greg Morris on Vegas all wore a badge 1384 01:08:07,220 --> 01:08:11,347 and before there was NYPD Blue, there was NYPD 1385 01:08:11,347 --> 01:08:14,469 and one of its stars Bobbie Hooks. 1386 01:08:14,469 --> 01:08:17,309 - I was the first black to co-star as a New York 1387 01:08:17,309 --> 01:08:19,862 police detective in NYPD. 1388 01:08:19,862 --> 01:08:22,694 (funky 70s music) 1389 01:08:25,898 --> 01:08:28,199 It was a wonderful experience for me. 1390 01:08:28,199 --> 01:08:32,760 First of all, there were three of us starring in the show. 1391 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,142 The New York Police Department gave us carte blanche 1392 01:08:35,142 --> 01:08:38,644 to use stories out of the files out of the 1393 01:08:38,644 --> 01:08:40,970 New York Police Department so we 1394 01:08:40,970 --> 01:08:45,970 and we shot 80% of the show on the streets of New York. 1395 01:08:46,961 --> 01:08:49,235 It was a blast, it was wonderful 1396 01:08:49,235 --> 01:08:51,456 because we just went all around New York. 1397 01:08:51,456 --> 01:08:53,449 I remember going into the bank, 1398 01:08:53,449 --> 01:08:55,967 a bank, we were shooting in a bank 1399 01:08:55,967 --> 01:08:59,042 and I remember this little girl coming up to me, 1400 01:08:59,042 --> 01:09:00,721 asking me for my autograph 1401 01:09:00,721 --> 01:09:03,478 and saying that she wanted to be in the business and all. 1402 01:09:03,478 --> 01:09:05,823 It turned out it was Whoopie Goldberg. 1403 01:09:05,823 --> 01:09:07,823 It was Whoopie Goldberg. 1404 01:09:15,836 --> 01:09:17,321 - [Narrator] Oddly, some of the most popular black 1405 01:09:17,321 --> 01:09:20,145 characters of the early 1980s were 1406 01:09:20,145 --> 01:09:23,269 wisecracking black children adopted into white families. 1407 01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:27,336 The premise of both Webster and Different Strokes. 1408 01:09:27,336 --> 01:09:29,913 - Wow, it's these black kids that got out the ghetto 1409 01:09:29,913 --> 01:09:31,810 and they live in a nice house. 1410 01:09:31,810 --> 01:09:33,450 I think that's why it was so popular, 1411 01:09:33,450 --> 01:09:35,700 because every black kid dreamt of that, 1412 01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:38,316 of you know not necessarily living with a white man, 1413 01:09:38,316 --> 01:09:41,396 but I'm talking about just (laughs) 1414 01:09:41,396 --> 01:09:45,001 but just the whole just the whole lifestyle 1415 01:09:45,001 --> 01:09:48,167 that Arnold and his brother just lived 1416 01:09:50,101 --> 01:09:51,981 and they were able to just be theirselves 1417 01:09:51,981 --> 01:09:53,852 and though they went through their trials and tribulations, 1418 01:09:53,852 --> 01:09:56,373 like they still had a good life 1419 01:09:56,373 --> 01:10:00,601 and that was something that myself I know I wanted 1420 01:10:00,601 --> 01:10:03,077 for myself and my family 1421 01:10:03,077 --> 01:10:05,411 and just TV was that escape. 1422 01:10:06,251 --> 01:10:08,037 - [Narrator] One actor who weathered the fickle 1423 01:10:08,037 --> 01:10:10,492 viewing audience through three long series 1424 01:10:10,492 --> 01:10:13,762 was the veteran stage performer Robert Guillaume, 1425 01:10:13,762 --> 01:10:16,493 who first found fame with Soap. 1426 01:10:16,493 --> 01:10:18,481 It was his portrayal of Benson 1427 01:10:18,481 --> 01:10:21,213 which brought him the affection of America. 1428 01:10:21,213 --> 01:10:22,466 - It was a classic case of the right actor 1429 01:10:22,466 --> 01:10:24,383 meeting the right role, 1430 01:10:25,499 --> 01:10:28,701 because he was written against type. 1431 01:10:28,701 --> 01:10:32,534 He was somebody that if you had the misfortune 1432 01:10:34,380 --> 01:10:37,380 to have hired you couldn't fire him. 1433 01:10:40,491 --> 01:10:43,342 But it was interesting in the sense 1434 01:10:43,342 --> 01:10:48,002 that I had so many people in my own background 1435 01:10:48,002 --> 01:10:50,169 who were similar to Benson 1436 01:10:52,121 --> 01:10:55,288 and had a similar attitude about life. 1437 01:10:57,403 --> 01:10:59,893 Benson the character I played 1438 01:10:59,893 --> 01:11:02,726 was a revenge for Mantan Moreland, 1439 01:11:05,059 --> 01:11:07,809 Willie Best and-- - What was that? 1440 01:11:09,963 --> 01:11:11,530 - Oh, nothing. 1441 01:11:11,530 --> 01:11:14,082 - No, well it was probably just something simple 1442 01:11:14,082 --> 01:11:17,619 like an atom bomb, I'll go see if it's out front. 1443 01:11:17,619 --> 01:11:19,755 - Rochester. - Pardon me, boss, 1444 01:11:19,755 --> 01:11:21,696 but could I get confidential for a moment? 1445 01:11:21,696 --> 01:11:23,827 - Stepin Fetchit. - Fine grab, 1446 01:11:23,827 --> 01:11:26,839 well plague take you, I thought I told you 1447 01:11:26,839 --> 01:11:27,672 to stay away from that vest. 1448 01:11:27,672 --> 01:11:29,430 - Yeah but Jessie got all up on my-- 1449 01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:31,534 - Yeah, you got me coat on there too. 1450 01:11:31,534 --> 01:11:33,499 - Yes, but stuffed coat. - Stuffed coat. 1451 01:11:33,499 --> 01:11:35,873 - I mean possum. - What do you mean possum? 1452 01:11:35,873 --> 01:11:37,540 - Rabbits. - Rabbits? 1453 01:11:42,963 --> 01:11:44,629 - [Narrator] When Diahann Carroll was criticized 1454 01:11:44,629 --> 01:11:47,949 in the 1960s for her portrayal of the too affluent 1455 01:11:47,949 --> 01:11:50,608 Julia, she was merely laying the groundwork 1456 01:11:50,608 --> 01:11:52,223 for the acceptance of a series 1457 01:11:52,223 --> 01:11:54,665 that would soon change television. 1458 01:11:54,665 --> 01:11:58,165 - She loved it until people started saying 1459 01:11:59,696 --> 01:12:02,258 she couldn't have been that wealthy 1460 01:12:02,258 --> 01:12:03,550 and she couldn't have done this 1461 01:12:03,550 --> 01:12:06,699 and she couldn't have that and that was impossible 1462 01:12:06,699 --> 01:12:08,443 and they were treating her like she was white 1463 01:12:08,443 --> 01:12:11,110 and there were treating her like 1464 01:12:12,085 --> 01:12:14,252 that's the part that hurt. 1465 01:12:15,471 --> 01:12:18,599 That was pitiful, but whether we realize it or not, 1466 01:12:18,599 --> 01:12:21,766 it made the road easier for Bill Cosby 1467 01:12:23,054 --> 01:12:26,304 to represent an African American doctor 1468 01:12:27,483 --> 01:12:31,066 and an African American advocate, his wife. 1469 01:12:32,139 --> 01:12:34,557 We were ready to accept then. 1470 01:12:37,202 --> 01:12:39,719 - [Narrator] More people watched The Cosby Show 1471 01:12:39,719 --> 01:12:44,057 than any other sitcom in TV history, black or white. 1472 01:12:44,057 --> 01:12:46,781 The program was ranked number one more times 1473 01:12:46,781 --> 01:12:49,898 than any other since it premiered. 1474 01:12:49,898 --> 01:12:52,655 - My desire to get involved in the industry 1475 01:12:52,655 --> 01:12:55,688 started with my own viewing of The Cosby Show, 1476 01:12:55,688 --> 01:12:58,432 which depicted us with honesty and dignity 1477 01:12:58,432 --> 01:13:00,603 and we were depicted as characters 1478 01:13:00,603 --> 01:13:02,063 who had more than one dimension, 1479 01:13:02,063 --> 01:13:05,538 where in previous shows, we kind of had one dimension. 1480 01:13:05,538 --> 01:13:09,205 We are all broke and without a lot of goals. 1481 01:13:10,391 --> 01:13:14,246 So it really made me see that there was something for me 1482 01:13:14,246 --> 01:13:18,579 and that there was something more to show the world. 1483 01:13:20,409 --> 01:13:22,963 - [Narrator] Then Cosby brought A Different World 1484 01:13:22,963 --> 01:13:26,261 to the television screen and revealed another dimension 1485 01:13:26,261 --> 01:13:31,039 to the black experience, life at an all black college. 1486 01:13:31,039 --> 01:13:34,218 - As a result of the positive images that were depicted 1487 01:13:34,218 --> 01:13:36,844 on A Different World and the positive experiences 1488 01:13:36,844 --> 01:13:39,733 that we were depicting in the college setting, 1489 01:13:39,733 --> 01:13:42,032 college enrollment of African Americans went up 1490 01:13:42,032 --> 01:13:44,179 significantly, significantly during 1491 01:13:44,179 --> 01:13:47,335 the run of that show and beyond. 1492 01:13:47,335 --> 01:13:50,375 It makes me feel wonderful to have been a part of that. 1493 01:13:50,375 --> 01:13:51,612 A lot of people starting naming their kids 1494 01:13:51,612 --> 01:13:53,070 after the characters too, so they were really 1495 01:13:53,070 --> 01:13:56,507 paying attention, they made it personal. 1496 01:13:56,507 --> 01:13:59,753 I mean it was personal for a lot of people. 1497 01:13:59,753 --> 01:14:03,003 - Whitney to me was that she was stuck. 1498 01:14:03,886 --> 01:14:05,808 She was black, but she didn't grow up around 1499 01:14:05,808 --> 01:14:09,074 the culture, so she had racial identity problems 1500 01:14:09,074 --> 01:14:10,952 when she got to school 1501 01:14:10,952 --> 01:14:13,616 and the only way I justified in my heart 1502 01:14:13,616 --> 01:14:15,934 playing that character was the balance 1503 01:14:15,934 --> 01:14:19,469 that the rest of the ensemble gave to that character 1504 01:14:19,469 --> 01:14:20,969 because on her own 1505 01:14:22,469 --> 01:14:25,826 I would have really hated playing Whitney 1506 01:14:25,826 --> 01:14:29,151 and perpetuating the yellow girl 1507 01:14:29,151 --> 01:14:31,984 pretentious myth that precedes us. 1508 01:14:36,351 --> 01:14:38,237 Marissa Tomei and Lisa Bonet 1509 01:14:38,237 --> 01:14:42,105 were in the first season, Charnele Brown played Kim, 1510 01:14:42,105 --> 01:14:44,163 Whitney's roommate who was pre-med 1511 01:14:44,163 --> 01:14:46,996 and very solid, very solid person. 1512 01:14:49,023 --> 01:14:51,692 Kadeem Hardison played Dwayne Wayne, 1513 01:14:51,692 --> 01:14:53,692 Sinbad was the PE coach, 1514 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,913 Cree Summer was Freddie, the kind of 1515 01:14:57,913 --> 01:15:02,250 free-spirited hippie-type character which I loved 1516 01:15:02,250 --> 01:15:06,000 and Glynn Turman was a teacher at the school. 1517 01:15:07,011 --> 01:15:10,047 - It showed what college life could be like 1518 01:15:10,047 --> 01:15:12,047 and kids wanted that and 1519 01:15:15,296 --> 01:15:18,320 as a result to this day and the show has been off 1520 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,045 the air for 10 years as we speak, 1521 01:15:21,045 --> 01:15:24,471 although the re-runs have never left. 1522 01:15:24,471 --> 01:15:28,925 Another generation is still addressing me as Colonel Taylor. 1523 01:15:28,925 --> 01:15:31,175 So it was a wonderful show. 1524 01:15:32,119 --> 01:15:37,119 It was always in the top five for the six years that it ran. 1525 01:15:37,585 --> 01:15:40,134 (funky music) 1526 01:15:40,134 --> 01:15:42,186 - [Narrator] In 1984, the world fell in love 1527 01:15:42,186 --> 01:15:44,816 with a grown-up Michael Jackson when he moonwalked 1528 01:15:44,816 --> 01:15:48,644 across the stage of the Emmy-winning Motown 25, 1529 01:15:48,644 --> 01:15:51,499 but the path that brought the special to the small screen 1530 01:15:51,499 --> 01:15:54,916 wasn't as graceful as the new dance move. 1531 01:15:55,884 --> 01:15:58,407 - Motown 25 was very difficult to get done 1532 01:15:58,407 --> 01:16:01,157 because actually in the beginning 1533 01:16:02,593 --> 01:16:04,831 when I first suggested it to Berry Gordy, 1534 01:16:04,831 --> 01:16:09,053 he was not even convinced that it was a good idea. 1535 01:16:09,053 --> 01:16:12,212 I had grown up in Motown and I felt very strongly about it 1536 01:16:12,212 --> 01:16:17,125 and eventually we were able to get people to come on board. 1537 01:16:17,125 --> 01:16:19,757 One of the more interesting things that I think happened 1538 01:16:19,757 --> 01:16:23,249 in putting that show together was we're in rehearsal 1539 01:16:23,249 --> 01:16:27,416 and I get a letter from Michael Jackson's attorney 1540 01:16:30,255 --> 01:16:35,173 that in essence said you are forbidden to tape Billie Jean. 1541 01:16:36,833 --> 01:16:40,175 I had just seen him and I thought well that's stupid. 1542 01:16:40,175 --> 01:16:41,619 So I went to Michael and I said 1543 01:16:41,619 --> 01:16:45,702 essentially look we'll tape it, you can come into 1544 01:16:46,813 --> 01:16:50,125 the editing room and in the end if you don't like it, 1545 01:16:50,125 --> 01:16:52,553 we won't use it, he did come to the editing room 1546 01:16:52,553 --> 01:16:57,553 and was very instrumental in how we put that piece together. 1547 01:16:58,441 --> 01:17:01,441 Needless to say that that one moment 1548 01:17:03,313 --> 01:17:07,063 of Billie Jean in his career was so impactful 1549 01:17:10,618 --> 01:17:13,785 the day before he was Michael Jackson, 1550 01:17:17,534 --> 01:17:19,945 certainly a superstar, certainly someone 1551 01:17:19,945 --> 01:17:24,195 we had all admired, but by the time the show aired, 1552 01:17:25,362 --> 01:17:28,949 he was in another category altogether 1553 01:17:28,949 --> 01:17:30,532 and one by himself. 1554 01:17:31,511 --> 01:17:33,895 - [Narrator] Tim Reid is another actor 1555 01:17:33,895 --> 01:17:36,862 who survived three long running series, 1556 01:17:36,862 --> 01:17:41,362 WKRP in Cincinnati, Simon and Simon and Sister Sister, 1557 01:17:42,532 --> 01:17:44,496 but it was his next series that brought him 1558 01:17:44,496 --> 01:17:46,955 the recognition that befitted him. 1559 01:17:46,955 --> 01:17:51,561 - Frank's Place, it was a wonderful, wonderful series. 1560 01:17:51,561 --> 01:17:55,477 I was happy with all the characters that were in it. 1561 01:17:55,477 --> 01:17:59,059 I was happy with the dignity of the comedy. 1562 01:18:01,017 --> 01:18:03,767 It actually is comedy with class. 1563 01:18:05,189 --> 01:18:08,197 - Tim is so deceptively smart. 1564 01:18:08,197 --> 01:18:10,733 I think a lot of people just considered him a comedian. 1565 01:18:10,733 --> 01:18:12,968 He's a brilliant man, he's a very brilliant man, 1566 01:18:12,968 --> 01:18:17,242 well-educated man, when he was doing Venus Fly Trap 1567 01:18:17,242 --> 01:18:21,171 and WKRP in Cincinnati, if you'll notice, 1568 01:18:21,171 --> 01:18:24,004 he dressed like the times the era, 1569 01:18:25,889 --> 01:18:28,099 super fly all that funny looking stuff, 1570 01:18:28,099 --> 01:18:31,753 but never once did you see him acting like that. 1571 01:18:31,753 --> 01:18:34,055 He was simply a man who dressed like that. 1572 01:18:34,055 --> 01:18:38,222 There was nothing stereotypical about his actions. 1573 01:18:39,155 --> 01:18:41,859 His dress was stereotypical, but not about his 1574 01:18:41,859 --> 01:18:45,883 he was just as regular as a guy in a suit and tie. 1575 01:18:45,883 --> 01:18:47,719 (funky music) 1576 01:18:47,719 --> 01:18:49,739 - [Narrator] But a small apartment in Chicago 1577 01:18:49,739 --> 01:18:51,554 with a distinctive address would set 1578 01:18:51,554 --> 01:18:56,107 the high water mark for both black television and NBC. 1579 01:18:56,107 --> 01:18:58,652 - 227 was a play by Christie Houston 1580 01:18:58,652 --> 01:19:01,255 who came from Chicago as I did, 1581 01:19:01,255 --> 01:19:03,597 who grew up in a neighborhood like mine. 1582 01:19:03,597 --> 01:19:06,264 227 was the address of the building 1583 01:19:06,264 --> 01:19:07,994 that she grew up in 1584 01:19:07,994 --> 01:19:10,428 and these were all the things that happened 1585 01:19:10,428 --> 01:19:12,482 during that time in that building. 1586 01:19:12,482 --> 01:19:13,901 Brenda Tartakoff came to the play. 1587 01:19:13,901 --> 01:19:15,257 Norman Lear came to the play. 1588 01:19:15,257 --> 01:19:16,646 ABC came to the play. 1589 01:19:16,646 --> 01:19:19,029 CBS came to the play. 1590 01:19:19,029 --> 01:19:22,850 And my daughter said she was producer, 1591 01:19:22,850 --> 01:19:24,793 she said you should think about 1592 01:19:24,793 --> 01:19:26,673 getting the rights to this play. 1593 01:19:26,673 --> 01:19:29,005 NBC was still interested and they still saw it 1594 01:19:29,005 --> 01:19:32,505 as a series, so that's how that came about 1595 01:19:33,348 --> 01:19:36,284 and we had five good years. 1596 01:19:36,284 --> 01:19:37,760 - They'll never play the Rambos 1597 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,833 until they stop playing the Sambo. 1598 01:19:39,833 --> 01:19:41,987 (screams) 1599 01:19:41,987 --> 01:19:44,049 - [Narrator] Young African Americans then began 1600 01:19:44,049 --> 01:19:46,367 working behind the television camera, 1601 01:19:46,367 --> 01:19:49,860 devising their own shows, using their own humor 1602 01:19:49,860 --> 01:19:52,081 and television in black starting finder 1603 01:19:52,081 --> 01:19:55,253 its own brighter images from within. 1604 01:19:55,253 --> 01:19:57,590 - The very first TV show that I did 1605 01:19:57,590 --> 01:20:01,826 was actually the Robert Townsend HBO specials. 1606 01:20:01,826 --> 01:20:04,004 They were all called Partners in Crime 1607 01:20:04,004 --> 01:20:06,019 and they were one through five 1608 01:20:06,019 --> 01:20:09,889 and I did that as a result of working with him 1609 01:20:09,889 --> 01:20:13,084 on his first movie Hollywood Shuffle. 1610 01:20:13,084 --> 01:20:14,739 - What's the line? - I ain't be 1611 01:20:14,739 --> 01:20:17,597 gotten no weapons. - Ah, I ain't be 1612 01:20:17,597 --> 01:20:19,097 gotten no weapons. 1613 01:20:20,190 --> 01:20:24,109 - My first TV work was Robert Townsend's Partner in Crime 1614 01:20:24,109 --> 01:20:26,279 I can say, you know that's the first time 1615 01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:29,161 that I did any sketches, any type of standup on TV, 1616 01:20:29,161 --> 01:20:32,162 although I did Star Search for like one quick second, 1617 01:20:32,162 --> 01:20:34,000 it was like he's got one star. 1618 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,916 (calm piano music) 1619 01:20:38,895 --> 01:20:42,179 My first solid job in television was In Living Color 1620 01:20:42,179 --> 01:20:46,679 and boy I'm proud to be a part of that starting seven. 1621 01:20:47,896 --> 01:20:49,300 - I had a really strong sense of pride 1622 01:20:49,300 --> 01:20:53,255 about In Living Color, just because it was 1623 01:20:53,255 --> 01:20:55,532 us who created it, 1624 01:20:55,532 --> 01:20:57,782 it was a real special time, 1625 01:21:00,237 --> 01:21:03,050 it was something that was really new. 1626 01:21:03,050 --> 01:21:05,108 Saturday Night Live had been around for a while, 1627 01:21:05,108 --> 01:21:06,830 but this was something that was totally different, 1628 01:21:06,830 --> 01:21:09,405 had a different sensibility and it was one of the first 1629 01:21:09,405 --> 01:21:14,405 shows that I worked on that just blew up really, really big. 1630 01:21:16,349 --> 01:21:18,674 - I actually auditioned to be a cast member, 1631 01:21:18,674 --> 01:21:20,939 but they hired Chris Rock 1632 01:21:20,939 --> 01:21:23,862 and then they had more auditions and they hired 1633 01:21:23,862 --> 01:21:25,925 Tim Meadows and then I guess they thought 1634 01:21:25,925 --> 01:21:29,940 hmm, well we need somebody to write for them. 1635 01:21:29,940 --> 01:21:31,857 And then they hired me. 1636 01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:37,255 - Fresh Prince, I think the cast made it really special. 1637 01:21:37,255 --> 01:21:40,971 I think Will Smith had something a charisma 1638 01:21:40,971 --> 01:21:43,127 that can't be denied, which is we all see 1639 01:21:43,127 --> 01:21:45,210 what's happened with him. 1640 01:21:46,083 --> 01:21:49,255 - Living Single was the first sitcom 1641 01:21:49,255 --> 01:21:51,916 about young people trying to make sense 1642 01:21:51,916 --> 01:21:54,648 of love and life in the big city. 1643 01:21:54,648 --> 01:21:56,643 It was the very first. 1644 01:21:56,643 --> 01:21:58,241 All the other ensemble comedies 1645 01:21:58,241 --> 01:22:02,013 were either about families or about other people, 1646 01:22:02,013 --> 01:22:04,422 people in their 40s, like on Cheers, 1647 01:22:04,422 --> 01:22:06,387 they were in their 40s and 50s 1648 01:22:06,387 --> 01:22:09,684 and Living Single was really the first 1649 01:22:09,684 --> 01:22:12,952 out of all of your young hip urban sitcoms 1650 01:22:12,952 --> 01:22:16,437 and I'm proud to be able to say I was there. 1651 01:22:16,437 --> 01:22:19,499 - I did Living Single and after Living Single 1652 01:22:19,499 --> 01:22:24,082 I had my own show on NBC for about maybe four episodes. 1653 01:22:25,393 --> 01:22:28,643 It's called Built to Last oddly enough. 1654 01:22:29,755 --> 01:22:32,700 And then reunited with Robert Townsend, 1655 01:22:32,700 --> 01:22:36,032 I ran the The Parent 'Hood, then Moesha. 1656 01:22:37,285 --> 01:22:40,330 - 40 Love was again just my attempt 1657 01:22:40,330 --> 01:22:43,813 to chronicle my life and those of the people around me 1658 01:22:43,813 --> 01:22:47,184 taking it the next stage after Living Single 1659 01:22:47,184 --> 01:22:49,184 which was being married. 1660 01:22:50,911 --> 01:22:53,941 - Bernie Mac is somebody's uncle. 1661 01:22:53,941 --> 01:22:55,684 He's a million people's uncle. 1662 01:22:55,684 --> 01:22:57,681 I got an uncle just like Bernie Mac. 1663 01:22:57,681 --> 01:22:58,924 You know people say Bernie's so fun, 1664 01:22:58,924 --> 01:23:02,126 he reminds of my uncle with this thing. 1665 01:23:02,126 --> 01:23:05,865 Well I don't know that a lot of white folks 1666 01:23:05,865 --> 01:23:08,010 have an uncle like Bernie, 1667 01:23:08,010 --> 01:23:12,343 so they can look at Bernie and be like what is this? 1668 01:23:17,146 --> 01:23:20,295 - Girlfriends we deal with the female relationships 1669 01:23:20,295 --> 01:23:22,273 and we just happen to be black 1670 01:23:22,273 --> 01:23:23,527 and I love the fact 1671 01:23:23,527 --> 01:23:27,110 I have whites, I have Latinos, Asian people 1672 01:23:29,161 --> 01:23:31,246 coming up to me saying that they love the show 1673 01:23:31,246 --> 01:23:34,036 because we deal with women's issues. 1674 01:23:34,036 --> 01:23:36,916 We just happen to be African Americans on the show 1675 01:23:36,916 --> 01:23:41,050 and also too we were talking one day at work 1676 01:23:41,050 --> 01:23:43,147 about the word crossover. 1677 01:23:43,147 --> 01:23:45,376 They consider our show a crossover show 1678 01:23:45,376 --> 01:23:47,094 and I think that's a positive thing, 1679 01:23:47,094 --> 01:23:50,511 because when I hear crossover, I think that 1680 01:23:50,511 --> 01:23:54,111 people can identify with the show. 1681 01:23:54,111 --> 01:23:56,634 - I think on Steve Harvey, they wanted us to try 1682 01:23:56,634 --> 01:23:59,431 to open up the audience and we actually had 1683 01:23:59,431 --> 01:24:02,388 a diverse cast, we never got any credit for it, 1684 01:24:02,388 --> 01:24:05,664 but (laughs) because I think when you have 1685 01:24:05,664 --> 01:24:07,708 a black lead in the show then you're perceived 1686 01:24:07,708 --> 01:24:11,791 as a black show and you're perceived differently. 1687 01:24:13,184 --> 01:24:14,870 - [Narrator] Diversity in TV drama 1688 01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:17,537 has thrived in ensemble casting. 1689 01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:22,305 - Ah man, you know being a part of that show LA Law, 1690 01:24:22,305 --> 01:24:24,728 and I've said it before, but it's very true, 1691 01:24:24,728 --> 01:24:27,978 it has impacted my life it did and continues 1692 01:24:27,978 --> 01:24:31,213 to impact my life because of the doors it opened 1693 01:24:31,213 --> 01:24:35,380 at that time because of the exposure of that show. 1694 01:24:36,861 --> 01:24:40,143 - Blair Underwood because of his presence on LA Law 1695 01:24:40,143 --> 01:24:43,331 had graduated what we were used to seeing 1696 01:24:43,331 --> 01:24:47,159 and he was intelligent, he was attractive. 1697 01:24:47,159 --> 01:24:48,409 He had presence 1698 01:24:49,913 --> 01:24:53,496 and he put us more in the equality category 1699 01:24:56,588 --> 01:24:58,589 because he was a man who was an attorney 1700 01:24:58,589 --> 01:25:00,492 who was doing things and so 1701 01:25:00,492 --> 01:25:02,749 and you wanted to see more of him, 1702 01:25:02,749 --> 01:25:06,499 so that was actually very encouraging for me. 1703 01:25:08,809 --> 01:25:10,157 - [Narrator] Black drama continues 1704 01:25:10,157 --> 01:25:12,523 its struggle to gain ground. 1705 01:25:12,523 --> 01:25:14,559 - I was on this show called City of Angels 1706 01:25:14,559 --> 01:25:17,880 which was a black drama, which I actually watched 1707 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:21,443 and I don't know why there aren't any black dramas. 1708 01:25:21,443 --> 01:25:23,080 - A CBS executive once told me 1709 01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,663 that TV series, dramatic series 1710 01:25:27,197 --> 01:25:29,201 with Lou Gossett and James Earl Jones 1711 01:25:29,201 --> 01:25:30,376 had both been canceled. 1712 01:25:30,376 --> 01:25:32,554 They had both premiered in the early 80s the same year 1713 01:25:32,554 --> 01:25:34,571 because a segment of the population 1714 01:25:34,571 --> 01:25:37,019 was uncomfortable seeing the black male 1715 01:25:37,019 --> 01:25:39,317 in positions of authority. 1716 01:25:39,317 --> 01:25:41,853 - And when you go to the studio root, 1717 01:25:41,853 --> 01:25:45,501 many different things, everybody lifts up 1718 01:25:45,501 --> 01:25:49,418 that two word beast and it says the bottom line 1719 01:25:50,903 --> 01:25:53,335 and it's all about what makes the bottom line 1720 01:25:53,335 --> 01:25:55,067 and the money. - I think it's hard 1721 01:25:55,067 --> 01:25:57,877 to get black-themed shows on TV 1722 01:25:57,877 --> 01:26:00,097 because there aren't enough black people 1723 01:26:00,097 --> 01:26:04,145 making the decisions about what goes on TV. 1724 01:26:04,145 --> 01:26:07,048 - [Narrator] In 1980, Black Entertainment Television 1725 01:26:07,048 --> 01:26:10,233 premiered, it was a cultural phenomenon that could 1726 01:26:10,233 --> 01:26:13,491 have changed the image of television in black. 1727 01:26:13,491 --> 01:26:16,047 - It was this force that you could feel 1728 01:26:16,047 --> 01:26:18,062 even before you could see it. 1729 01:26:18,062 --> 01:26:20,005 - We went on and sang acapella for the first time. 1730 01:26:20,005 --> 01:26:25,005 ♪ Can you tell me how a perfect love goes wrong ♪ 1731 01:26:27,462 --> 01:26:28,763 It was cool man because one thing in the ghetto 1732 01:26:28,763 --> 01:26:31,583 if you don't have any channel, you got BET, 1733 01:26:31,583 --> 01:26:33,755 you know what I'm saying so we made sure that everybody 1734 01:26:33,755 --> 01:26:35,683 we knew taped it so when we got back 1735 01:26:35,683 --> 01:26:37,987 we had tapes for everybody like I was on that show, 1736 01:26:37,987 --> 01:26:39,794 I was on that show. 1737 01:26:39,794 --> 01:26:41,022 - [Narrator] Despite its popularity 1738 01:26:41,022 --> 01:26:43,572 in the black community, sales were low. 1739 01:26:43,572 --> 01:26:47,155 - Broadcast television, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, 1740 01:26:48,103 --> 01:26:51,270 they deliver audiences to advertisers. 1741 01:26:52,833 --> 01:26:57,330 Paid television, HBO, Showtime delivers subscribers, 1742 01:26:57,330 --> 01:26:59,644 BET Black Entertainment Television, 1743 01:26:59,644 --> 01:27:03,541 a year ago they were earning only $60,000 in revenues 1744 01:27:03,541 --> 01:27:07,281 per prime time hour, that's what a broadcast network, 1745 01:27:07,281 --> 01:27:11,198 even a UPN or a WB they get that more than that 1746 01:27:13,914 --> 01:27:16,092 for a 30 second spot. 1747 01:27:16,092 --> 01:27:19,371 - [Narrator] BET was sold in Viacom in 2000. 1748 01:27:19,371 --> 01:27:20,973 - I hear people criticizing Bob Johnson 1749 01:27:20,973 --> 01:27:25,973 for selling BET, why is there not another BET coming about? 1750 01:27:26,516 --> 01:27:29,933 Why do we have not the production houses? 1751 01:27:30,874 --> 01:27:32,850 You know you look around and you see the athletes, 1752 01:27:32,850 --> 01:27:35,657 and I'm not trying to spend anybody else's money, 1753 01:27:35,657 --> 01:27:39,279 but you know you would figure that 1754 01:27:39,279 --> 01:27:42,112 at some point we would say enough. 1755 01:27:45,325 --> 01:27:46,327 - They said to get a laugh 1756 01:27:46,327 --> 01:27:48,371 you can't be afraid to act like a fool. 1757 01:27:48,371 --> 01:27:49,585 - [Narrator] There are those who believe 1758 01:27:49,585 --> 01:27:52,834 the 50 years of television in black has come full circle, 1759 01:27:52,834 --> 01:27:55,192 that buffoonery is still rampant. 1760 01:27:55,192 --> 01:27:57,264 Others believe that it is all a work in progress 1761 01:27:57,264 --> 01:28:01,547 down the long road of entertainment and equality. 1762 01:28:01,547 --> 01:28:04,493 - Well I think that probably if we're gonna be honest 1763 01:28:04,493 --> 01:28:07,623 the majority of the images of black people 1764 01:28:07,623 --> 01:28:10,302 on television in comedy over the years 1765 01:28:10,302 --> 01:28:13,795 has been Calhoun in one way or another. 1766 01:28:13,795 --> 01:28:14,991 - I don't think there are great sitcoms, 1767 01:28:14,991 --> 01:28:17,949 but I do think there's a buffoon on every show, 1768 01:28:17,949 --> 01:28:19,937 be it white or black, but there is always somebody 1769 01:28:19,937 --> 01:28:22,947 looking at them going what, what are you talking about? 1770 01:28:22,947 --> 01:28:27,222 - You have prominent black people on television, 1771 01:28:27,222 --> 01:28:30,044 but a lot of the times you do see the stereotype 1772 01:28:30,044 --> 01:28:32,057 and that's what people think that we are. 1773 01:28:32,057 --> 01:28:34,057 That's a part of us too, 1774 01:28:35,393 --> 01:28:36,969 but there's just so much more. 1775 01:28:36,969 --> 01:28:38,827 We are not one dimensional. 1776 01:28:38,827 --> 01:28:40,264 - We are not a monolith. 1777 01:28:40,264 --> 01:28:41,700 And that's the truth that needs to be told 1778 01:28:41,700 --> 01:28:43,607 over and over and over again. 1779 01:28:43,607 --> 01:28:44,885 There are all different kinds of people. 1780 01:28:44,885 --> 01:28:47,053 There are all different kinds of black people 1781 01:28:47,053 --> 01:28:49,737 and the world needs to know that. 1782 01:28:49,737 --> 01:28:51,550 - I will be glad when the day comes 1783 01:28:51,550 --> 01:28:54,707 when we don't have to include race in something 1784 01:28:54,707 --> 01:28:56,655 for it be considered black programming, 1785 01:28:56,655 --> 01:28:58,094 when we could just tell a story, 1786 01:28:58,094 --> 01:29:00,972 when we could have a conversation. 1787 01:29:00,972 --> 01:29:03,130 That to me is a great day, 1788 01:29:03,130 --> 01:29:04,978 but there are a lot of black people who are against that. 1789 01:29:04,978 --> 01:29:06,330 A lot of black people think 1790 01:29:06,330 --> 01:29:07,753 black people should only be talking about issues 1791 01:29:07,753 --> 01:29:08,989 pertaining to their blackness 1792 01:29:08,989 --> 01:29:11,907 and I'm a lot of things, one of which is black, 1793 01:29:11,907 --> 01:29:13,264 an important one of which is black, 1794 01:29:13,264 --> 01:29:14,269 but I'm a lot of things. 1795 01:29:14,269 --> 01:29:16,391 I'm a Christian, I'm a man, I'm a Californian, 1796 01:29:16,391 --> 01:29:19,630 all of these are me, why should I take one aspect of me? 1797 01:29:19,630 --> 01:29:20,728 That's like doing everything about the fact 1798 01:29:20,728 --> 01:29:22,126 that I'm from California. 1799 01:29:22,126 --> 01:29:23,282 That would be ridiculous. 1800 01:29:23,282 --> 01:29:25,171 It's just as ridiculous to say everything 1801 01:29:25,171 --> 01:29:28,202 out of my mouth should pertain to my blackness. 1802 01:29:28,202 --> 01:29:29,452 I don't get it. 1803 01:29:30,353 --> 01:29:33,186 (calm jazz music) 1804 01:29:37,398 --> 01:29:39,041 - [Narrator] Television in black has indeed 1805 01:29:39,041 --> 01:29:41,107 been a long strange dance. 1806 01:29:41,107 --> 01:29:44,119 It has never been as simple as just black and white. 1807 01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:45,651 It never can be. 1808 01:29:45,651 --> 01:29:48,172 There were monumental talents who struggled in silence 1809 01:29:48,172 --> 01:29:50,664 and whose work has been half forgotten. 1810 01:29:50,664 --> 01:29:53,705 Looking back, we know they made us laugh, 1811 01:29:53,705 --> 01:29:56,965 often tugged at our hearts, always enriched the legacy 1812 01:29:56,965 --> 01:30:00,183 and truly changed American culture. 1813 01:30:00,183 --> 01:30:03,011 - The first 50 years were 1814 01:30:03,011 --> 01:30:06,862 the hardest most definitely in Hollywood. 1815 01:30:06,862 --> 01:30:09,945 (calm hip hop music) 1816 01:30:56,937 --> 01:30:59,770 (Multicom Jingle) 146711

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