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Just let me know when you are ready.
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A couple of days ago I got
a sticker that said:
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"Go to hell!" I have
now done that.
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Someone I met ... you
can tell who you are.
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We are the guys in Mayhem who
have started a record store.
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We found out that it was time to
fix a shop that we had had -
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- want to go in. -How
do you get there?
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You find Schweigaards gate, and then
you go until you see Venom posters.
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-Good luck with the store.
-Children, go to Hell!
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We went in here before.
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The disk was where the disk is in now.
The windows were wallpapered again.
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The cool thing is that half the shop is
preserved since Noseblod is here now.
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Basically all the records at the time
were in that part of the business.
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Then it was open, not
closed, as it is now.
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-This was just a gap. -
Outer part of the shop.
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Inside there was an old kitchen.
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If we were to have food here,
there was one thing we got.
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Sausage bread with chili sprinkles and cheese.
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- It was the food it went in. - You
could live on that for a while.
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What was cool was that everything was
so black and it was damn bad light.
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When you came in from outside,
you saw nothing.
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It took a minute before
you got used to it.
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Then you kind of saw figures
sitting and watching.
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Who had watched for a
minute. Great fun.
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Noseblood has become a kind of
living black metal museum.
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During the Inferno festival,
it flows in with people -
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- which will absorb the atmosphere.
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When you wrote black metal on
the wall in this room, -
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- I think it was mainly
for a photo session.
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First, there were 8-10 pieces that
became The Black Circle, in a way.
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Then you had maybe 10-15 pieces
that were stuck here.
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Then you had 30-40 people coming
and going quite often.
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There were some special young men with
some special musical interests.
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Maybe some other special interests
as well. They found each other.
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I remember there was a tombstone
in the window. Chains and ...
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It was draped in black and stuff,
so it was exotic and exciting -
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- for a 15-year-old who was
interested in dark moods.
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And heavy music.
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The record store Helvete was a meeting
place more than it was a record store.
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It became such a secret society where
you went to get some control -
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- in that underground
metal landscape.
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There was a lot of talk about what
was "no-no" and what was inside.
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People who came to Hell in white
sneakers did not come in.
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I was reluctant to go to Hell because
I did not wear black pants.
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I think that was perfectly normal.
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I went there with a friend who was wearing
a contemporary college sweater.
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It was barely a few seconds before Aarseth
looked straight at him and said:
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"You are not coming in here.
You are going straight out!"
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Øystein Aarseth, who ran the
store, was like the leader.
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For us kids, who went in there with high
shoulders and thought they were tough.
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It was exciting for us.
He became a mentor -
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and black metal cultural figure.
Such a cultural man.
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When I talked to him and was
maybe 16 years old, -
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- then maybe he was 22. In a
slightly different place.
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He said: "For us in Mayhem, everything must
be unique and maintain the highest level."
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I just ... "OK! Wow!"
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That's where the list is. Absolutely everything
on all songs should be the best.
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We think that a song should
not be released -
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- if it is not better than anything
else in the world.
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We do not release mass-produced dirt.
We could have released 6-7 records, -
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- but we will release a record
that is the best.
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Not only the best, it will
reinvent the wheel.
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It makes you want
to push yourself.
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In that way he was considerable, -
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- and he was inspiring.
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Will there be more Mayhem records
or concerts in the future?
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Yes, that's just a little special.
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The singer blew his mind
a couple of months ago.
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But it will eventually be,
but we will not play live.
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We refuse to play live because
people are not evil enough.
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We only want to play for
people who are extreme -
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- and comes to a concert with a leather
jacket, long hair and nails.
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Today it's just little kids with
sweatpants and skateboards, -
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- and we do not bother to play for them,
so there will be no live show -
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- before people are raw
enough to deserve it.
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Metal has an insane number
of sub-genres.
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In the Norwegian black metal community,
people became very anti-death metal.
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Death metal and black metal originated
at about the same time in the 80's.
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The great schism came in the
late 80's, early 90's, -
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- when the Norwegian black metal community
totally broke with death metal.
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What got me over the edge and becoming dedicated
to Norwegian black metal, was -
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- the interview with Øystein and Pelle,
Euronymous and Dead, in Slayer 8.
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It was a lot about how clean
metal was about to become.
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They thought metal had become junk.
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It had become too "happy". Death
metal had taken over everything.
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Death metal was getting damn
big. Full mainstream.
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Playtime on MTV and bands like Morbid Angel,
which sold hundreds of thousands.
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In terms of image, black metal and
death metal are very different.
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Black metal had body makeup and black clothes,
black hair, cartridge belts ...
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In death metal, it was so-so with
the clothing. Especially:
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Death metal was a little too technical.
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Black metal oriented towards atmosphere,
primitive riffs -
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- and often a little underproduced sound.
Demo sound. Proper underground.
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Øystein Aarseth in particular wanted
to revitalize the concept and genre.
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"Let's go back and start
again. Do it right."
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It was supposed to be a separate,
extreme variant that stood out -
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- both industry, thinking
and marketing ...
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Everything had to be completely on its own level.
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Many of the Norwegian bands, such as
Immortal, Enslaved, Emperor ...
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Several of the guys had a background
in death metal, but were bored.
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They probably also got the feeling
that Norwegian black metal was -
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- a much more credible and
genuine expression.
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"A Blaze in the Northern Sky" is the
most obvious break with death metal.
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The album is the starting point for
"true Norwegian black metal".
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Now it will be dark. We
must greet Darkthrone.
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They play death metal.
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The sources of inspiration
were all sorts of strange.
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We wrapped ourselves in very
advanced death metal.
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It has something to do with
the start of Darkthrone.
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We wanted to be nice and good.
We liked death metal, -
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- among many other genres, so it
became a natural thing for us.
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It ended with the first album,
which became pure death metal.
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There was a lot of stuff
with that music.
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But during the breaks at the rehearsal or at home,
it was not the kind of music we listened to.
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That was what led us to see the
longer lines in the music.
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When you listen to Bathory and then
have to play technically, -
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- then you feel that you are in the wrong country.
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The uprising was probably a little more personal.
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We did not play black metal
to make a special revolt, -
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- but we probably rebelled
against ourselves.
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We were tired of being clever, and
we mostly listened to music -
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- which was full of soul and
reasonably primitive.
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We did not want decorations and knick-knacks
for the music in Darkthrone.
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Early Bathory records don't
need it, and we love it.
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Early Celtic Frost and Hellhammer do
not need decorations and trinkets.
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It's damn fat.
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Darkthrone started making a second
album after "Soulside Journey", -
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- which was actually death metal.
The wreck album number two, -
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went into Creative Studio,
where Mayhem had been, -
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- and clinked with the ugliest
album they could make.
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To get inspiration to do something like
that, you have to put yourself -
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- in a way of thinking -
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- which is probably a bit
gloomier than normal.
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I think diving into the dark and
getting back up is very good.
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"A Blaze in the Northern Sky" was a
completely different atmosphere -
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- than "Soulside Journey", which
had death metal vocals.
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Much coarser and darker.
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Everyone understood that I, as
a vocalist, had to solve this.
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There was great tension attached to
the hill I was going to solve it.
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Then I really had to
get in the mood.
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I lit candles in the studio room.
It was dark and stuff.
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I had not sung like that before. I did not
stand at home in the mirror and say:
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"Shall I do this?" We just got
to see how it turned out.
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Peaceville did not rejoice
when we sent the master.
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They thought we ... I actually think
they thought we fucked with them.
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A little close at first.
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But we did not. They thought we
should remix and record again.
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We just said we do not.
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"If you do not want to publish it,
we will publish it elsewhere."
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They agreed to release it.
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I saw the first black metal record
for Darkthrone in the store.
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I thought, "What the hell is this?
Black and white and makeup."
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"I have to get that checked out."
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Here there was so much new and trend-setting
at the same time.
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Black and white cover. With death metal
we were used to sun, shorts and caps.
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Here it is the complete opposite. They set
the standard in a huge number of fields.
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Terribly ugly sound, and many
got backwards by it.
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When I finally heard this ... It just
fell so damn well into place.
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That was all I had missed in death
metal, among other things.
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There was something mysterious
and extraterrestrial about it.
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Darkthrone stands for me as the
ultimate black metal band.
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With all the standards they set.
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They made a strong impression on me.
If you have to say which record -
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- which has meant the most to modern
black metal, it is definitely -
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- "A Blaze in the Northern
Sky" with Darkthrone.
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It was the new day 1.
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We are always right, even if we
are wrong. It's so damn fat.
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That album is now at the National Museum.
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Together with a letter from the South
Pole, written by Roald Amundsen.
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Magnus Lagabøte's laws
and scores from Grieg.
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What I think was interesting
in black metal was -
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- that the focus was not necessarily
on being technically advanced, -
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- or that it should sound good, but
it should convey a lot of emotion.
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Such an idea of feeling over form.
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In that mix there, they were preoccupied
with a lot of other music.
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Norwegian, early black metal has -
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- a kind of debt to other sources
of inspiration than many know.
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Øystein was not like: "I
just like extreme metal!"
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He had a very broad taste. Strange,
German kraut rock.
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Plingplong, as many will call it.
All those neu- and all this.
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It was very fun with the synth music.
There was nothing organic.
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It was completely synthetic,
sort of. Very exciting.
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Inhuman music, almost.
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Øystein and I shared a common
interest in avant-garde -
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and alternative music.
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We started a side project. Langhus experimental
burial chamber orchestra.
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Abbreviated for LEGO
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We performed the most insane
things on stage.
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Anything that was completely different
and atypical or anti-musical -
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- compared to what we were
used to, was great.
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The biggest sources of inspiration
for Thorns have been -
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- things other than metal, then.
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Like Oliver Messiaen, a
church organ composer.
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He made his own scales.
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It sounded completely ethereal
or extraterrestrial.
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There was one computer game in particular
called "Castle of Terror".
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Where you have very stringent
music, in a way.
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And then we must not forget Thorbjørn
Egner and everything he has made.
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Especially Karius and Baktus.
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It's not only cozy, it's
banal and dark.
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Cool music.
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Do you mix those things up there and
wrap it up with guitar and bass, -
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- you might get something a little weird.
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Snorre was unique. Snorre
was so special.
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Snorre Ruch has in many ways been -
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- several of the athletes' favorite.
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Musically, I think Thorns was one of
our biggest sources of inspiration.
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For me, it completely summed up that
part of Norwegian black metal -
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- I consider sacred.
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There is no such thing.
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Grew up on Flatåsen in Trondheim.
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Has always had my head full of ideas and
thoughts. A little weird view of things.
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Likes to poke at everything
and question everything.
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I am both an emotional person
and very rational.
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Music is both mathematics
and a lot of emotions, -
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- so that you can master both
things is just an advantage.
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Even if you feel that you are torn a
little in rags from time to time.
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But we all have a destructive
and dark side.
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For many of us, that side
is more prominent.
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For us, it is much more obvious
to listen to music -
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- which corresponds to
the mood you are in.
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Where you feel that those who perform
it, or the music, have room for you.
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Our role musically has been
to make some anti-music.
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Want things to be a little ugly and
maybe a little difficult or wrong.
225
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Or just completely different from
what we are used to hearing.
226
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I hate your church tones. I
can not stand the Beatles.
227
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Everything that has helped to make
music for the regular, safe, -
228
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- boring package that most people
listen to, I am opposed to.
229
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I want to ruin it.
230
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,360
I have not learned to play
the guitar from anyone.
231
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I have found out most things myself.
Then you make your own habits -
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- and gets his own technique.
The music becomes a bit then.
233
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,040
I played a lot with harmonics.
234
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Then you get a slightly special effect.
235
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:46,040
I played a lot and spent a lot of time
with Øystein Aarseth in Mayhem.
236
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Øystein and I actually had quite
a few common ideas and such.
237
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On playing technique and playing
style. He liked to experiment -
238
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- with things on the guitar, and do
things that are not normal playing.
239
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,520
Øystein was very inspired by Snorre
Ruch's way of playing guitar.
240
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Øystein in a way changed his
style of play after -
241
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- what he was inspired by Snorre on.
242
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:25,640
When we learned to play proper chords,
except for bar grips, -
243
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- then we found out that E and
A minor were good things.
244
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This was really an attempt
to find some of it there -
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- Romeo and Juliet thing.
246
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It was so wonderful, dramatic and such.
247
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Then we tried to find those tones.
248
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We did not get it, but
we got something else.
249
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Then we tried to go
up and down again.
250
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True?
251
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On the first versions of the song,
it was just like that, about.
252
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Then I learned that picking
technique from Øystein.
253
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To tighten the hand so hard that
everything just shook by itself.
254
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,800
It's like playing guitar
with a mixer.
255
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,920
To make it slide smoothly
up and down the chord ...
256
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,120
Harald and I recorded tape
with guitar and bass.
257
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:15,000
We sent it to Bård and Marius
to let them hear the songs.
258
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,480
Then it was the intention to
put on vocals and drums, -
259
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- but it was never done. The tape
was spread all over the world.
260
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:30,360
So the Grymyrk tape is known. It
should not really be published.
261
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:39,840
The Grymyrk tape is the most important because
there comes the guitar sound to Thorns -
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- so properly forward.
263
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,800
It's so primitive. It's so raw.
264
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,400
But it is very futuristic,
cold and clinical.
265
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,240
It's like a little piece of DNA
coming from ... I do not know.
266
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:10,800
Everyone who heard it got a different
idea of what black metal could be.
267
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,360
It's just guitar and bass,
but it was so different.
268
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:28,360
-Atonal and disharmonious. -Shit important
for the Norwegian scene.
269
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It probably affected Burzum.
270
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,200
At least I know it's
affected Satyricon.
271
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,680
It also affected
mayhem. It did.
272
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,960
Typical way of thinking like
that riffing is like going -
273
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,440
plucked down the cord. Like that.
274
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,560
And then finish with super
riffing. So you get ...
275
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Such a typical Mayhem thing.
276
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,920
In metal it was very original -
277
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,920
- when Øystein and Snorre started
to think that way.
278
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:23,680
Things that didn't really exist
in thrash or death metal.
279
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It was still black metal.
It sounds black metal.
280
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But it was something completely different than ...
281
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He added something to black metal.
282
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He brought in something more.
283
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:48,000
Something unspeakable, sort of. Extremely
confusing, nightmarish, -
284
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- but at the same time damn magnificent.
285
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:59,160
In that way, he has inspired people
who are far more famous -
286
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,400
- and has had much more
career than he has had.
287
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:10,800
If he is never so unknown, then
he has put a very strong -
288
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:16,560
- artistic imprint after itself,
and that's what it's about.
289
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:28,040
When I enter Hell, I am greeted
by a cloaked model -
290
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- in the door with torch. On the
table is a bone and a skull.
291
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The walls are adorned with inverted crosses.
Is the shop possessed by the devil?
292
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The idea is that people should be
intimidated when they enter.
293
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,400
We have certain interests,
so to speak.
294
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The whole shop is part of our lifestyle.
We run the race fully.
295
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,240
Satan was portrayed mostly
as such a mascot.
296
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,680
It was something with the time we grew up in.
297
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,560
Everything should be so safe and pleasant.
298
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:14,440
We wanted to stand on the sidelines and be
a little resistant to the established.
299
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:22,000
We probably all had a feeling of being
part of something new and different.
300
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:28,840
"We do black metal and develop
something. It's special."
301
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Black metal should be more
than black metal.
302
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:41,400
One should hate it and be afraid of it.
Then you have to take it further.
303
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:47,080
We have the band Mayhem and the record
company Deathlike Silence.
304
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,520
Everything goes under one big whole.
305
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:57,400
The goal is to spread as much
fear and evil as possible.
306
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,920
We do this best by operating
in the way we do now.
307
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:06,480
-Why should you spread fear?
-It's for evil's own sake.
308
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:12,360
We are fascinated by death, depravity
and darkness. That's our life.
309
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,800
If people get scared of
it, it's just fat.
310
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,800
Øystein changed all the time.
311
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,240
He was looking for ... To me it
seemed like he wanted to be -
312
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- the most extreme person
overall. So anyway.
313
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:40,880
The concept he built around Hell,
Mayhem and all that, -
314
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- it got pretty weird. -You
should not say "hello".
315
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:52,640
"Have a good time" you would never say.
"Have a hell of a time" should be said.
316
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,360
Maybe a joking tone at first,
but it became more -
317
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:06,240
- seriousness out of it all, then.
-I do not think he was a dark guy.
318
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,320
I think he was caught by the
things they had started.
319
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:17,480
It was not healthy for Øystein
to get that godfather figure -
320
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,960
- stepped over him, as he then became.
321
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,320
There was a dark atmosphere
all over the place.
322
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:30,200
It became more and more extreme.
It was understood quite early -
323
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- that there are things going on here.
324
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Things that are really quite out there.
325
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,440
But that did not scare us
significantly anyway.
326
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:51,240
Maybe the opposite. Maybe that
made it even more exciting.
327
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:59,960
It was a man from Bergen who came and
hung out in the shop for 24 hours.
328
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,040
Øystein said: "What the hell is he doing here?"
329
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,120
He thought he was in the way.
330
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,640
But then he continued to be
in Hell. He slept there.
331
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:22,040
He eventually became friends
with Øystein.
332
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,000
They turned each other up.
333
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,800
With extreme ideas and things, then.
334
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,520
The first time I heard
Burzum, I was in Hell.
335
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:44,520
Øystein had signed a contract with the
band and was to release the album -
336
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,920
- which he was incredibly
enthusiastic about.
337
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,040
He put it on ...
338
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:04,400
I could not believe what I heard that
it was going to be the new big one.
339
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,920
I thought it was absolutely
awful. Simply bad.
340
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:18,040
"Here he has missed." He did not have
it, but I was not on the trip.
341
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:23,480
He made music with a clear uniqueness.
342
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,840
Very atmospheric. Lonely,
melancholy.
343
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:39,520
I remember the first song I heard.
It lit a small flame.
344
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,760
It was "Lost Forgotten Sad Spirit".
345
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:54,200
It had a lot of what I missed
in other music I listened to.
346
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Primitive, ugly sound, but
huge atmosphere in it.
347
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:16,720
He has an incredibly intense nudity
and loneliness in his sound.
348
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,160
And his way of singing,
which has defined -
349
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:30,280
- the bright singing style
in Norwegian black metal.
350
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:37,040
I think that has been one of the most
important things he has brought in.
351
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:51,280
It sounds like he's actually cutting
himself or burning himself.
352
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:59,120
These are real, tortured screams.
There is no nonsense there.
353
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,200
And then came the riffs.
354
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,520
Then they found out that this
was a one man band as well.
355
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:13,080
"He plays everything himself!
It's completely insane."
356
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,760
It felt like it was in
harmony with nature.
357
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,480
Like a Munch painting in that sense -
358
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:31,040
- that an individual lost his sense
of the nature around him.
359
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:37,680
It added something very personal
in black metal.
360
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,600
But it still felt universal.
You feel the desperation, -
361
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:46,920
- and the music is longing.
362
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,920
It started at least a completely different -
363
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,760
- chain reaction for the direction
black metal took after that.
364
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,960
At four o'clock last night, a neighbor discovered
that the church was on fire.
365
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:14,520
Half an hour later, the 800-year-old
church was destroyed forever.
366
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,560
It's a national disaster.
Nothing less.
367
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:25,000
The stave churches are our main contribution
to the world's architectural history.
368
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:31,760
The disappearance of one of
these 30 is a disaster.
369
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,840
When the Count told that he had
burned the first church, -
370
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:45,560
- it was damn tough. He had taken
the step no one dared to take.
371
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,400
He was given status.
372
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,640
Investigators today saw footage
from the night of the fire.
373
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,520
Of course, they hoped to find the young people
who were seen before the fire started.
374
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,080
Some churches began to burn.
We knew all about this.
375
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,720
We shut up.
376
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:17,720
Irreplaceable values have been lost
in another tragic church fire.
377
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,480
Revheim church in Stavanger was completely
damaged by fire last night.
378
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:28,440
An iron cross was nailed to
the wall by the front door.
379
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:33,920
Worship of Satan is one of the theories
behind the church fire in Stavanger.
380
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:39,240
It was never like that: "This is
insane, I can not handle this."
381
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:45,840
It was more the concept that it started
to become a kind of movement.
382
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:52,840
"Damn, this has gone beyond music.
Now it's a movement."
383
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,560
The fire in Hauketo church probably started
here in the congregation hall.
384
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,360
In that I was also baptized.
385
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,160
I think it was a little silly
that it was destroyed.
386
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,920
If a church burns down, it is not only Christians
who suffer. Most people too.
387
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,240
What happens if a beautiful old
stave church burns down?
388
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,320
1: Christians become despairing. 2:
The house of God is destroyed.
389
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:30,760
3: Ordinary people suffer from grief
because the church was so beautiful.
390
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,880
Bottom line: You spread grief and
despair. Which is very good.
391
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,600
Strange that we did not understand
that it was our downfall.
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