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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,440 Dead is and remains - 2 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,680 - a kind of saint figure - 3 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,480 - in black metal. 4 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,440 He was artistic at - 5 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,920 - a very extreme, strange way. 6 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,960 When he sang the songs, - 7 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,960 - he was at the place he sang about. 8 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:47,800 I think he made Mayhem the Mayhem I liked. 9 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:53,440 He was the one who added the last detail the band needed. 10 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:59,000 It was clear that he was bothered by something. 11 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,000 He was not well. He needed help. 12 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,840 He did not have to end up in these things to Øystein, - 13 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:12,240 - which only became worse and worse. 14 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,880 Norwegian texts: Jørn-Are Haugli Johansen 15 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:57,520 In the 80's we did not have internet, but we had local radio. 16 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,520 The studio was good enough, - 17 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,760 - but the mixer had never heard of Lucifer. 18 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,400 He thought we were playing reggae. 19 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:14,400 The first time I heard about Mayhem was in an interview with Øystein and Jørn. 20 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:20,000 Most people are much more likely to get in touch with the band. 21 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,600 It's much more personal. 22 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,360 People write to us, we write back. 23 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,040 We get a lot of letters. 24 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:35,640 We got the address of Mayhem, and then we wrote letters to them. 25 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,960 It took two or three weeks, and then we got an answer. 26 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,520 It was very fun in the beginning when we discovered that there were several - 27 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:50,080 - which was a little blown in the head. -It was big. We framed it. 28 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,520 It was boss. 29 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,840 The letters looked like this. 30 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,560 A little elaborate. Euronymous, Necrobutcher and Manheim. 31 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,720 Mayhem is like that trio. "Death is fucking fun." 32 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,040 "Greetings to the true Mayhem." 33 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,680 Mayhem was a band I became aware of when I was 13 years old. 34 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:17,480 Then I had the band Slaught, which I started due to. Mayhem. 35 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:24,200 He who designed the logo, had probably seen a lot of this logo. 36 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:32,960 They became in a way a blueprint for how you can be - 37 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,400 - a very genuine band, for Norwegian extreme metal bands. 38 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,480 Mayhem is in a way patient number one. 39 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:51,040 There were a lot of little things bubbling around all over Norway. 40 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,920 It was pretty unestablished at first. 41 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,040 The first Norwegian band, apart from Mayhem, that I listened to, was - 42 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:11,160 - a band from Nittedal called Vomit. They were out very early. 43 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,760 They were the only ones we knew about who were doing the same thing as us. 44 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,880 At least in Norway. 45 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,480 Of course, they became superheroes for us. 46 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:39,000 They were much older than us and had very long, black hair. 47 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:44,080 I have seen pictures of myself at that time. 48 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,640 There are braces and pimples ... 49 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,280 We were there, sort of, while they were ... 50 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,280 They were terribly tough, scary and harsh. 51 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,800 We really looked up to them. 52 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:12,200 I wonder what Mayhem saw in Vomit. It was probably musical. 53 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:17,640 It was just us. It was Mayhem and Vomit when they met us. 54 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,800 They had no choice. 55 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:26,120 Either they had to sit alone at Langhus, - 56 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,400 - or there were some bastards in Nittedal - 57 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,880 - who thought they were cool. 58 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,800 They thought our music was good, then. 59 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,880 Once Kittil and I had to jump into Mayhem. 60 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,960 They had neither singer nor drummer. 61 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:03,120 We got to a point where we did not get much further. A crossroads. 62 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,480 Are you going to go all in, or are you going to come up with something else? 63 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,240 I was one of those who wanted to invent something else. 64 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,200 I did not want to live on crispbread. 65 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,560 It was best to give up. 66 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:26,320 There and then many probably agreed with me that Mayhem had delivered. 67 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,240 It is not good to say what happens next. 68 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:35,600 Kittil and I were a little like that - 69 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:41,360 - temporary drummer and vocalist. 70 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,200 Right now we are borrowing two boys from Vomit. 71 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,640 We borrow the vocalist and the drummer. That sounds great. 72 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,200 They have a hell of a clue about playing and stuff. 73 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:03,360 But they are completely different people than us. That's a little weird. 74 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,480 We did not fit in. 75 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:11,120 Mayhem was not a joke. They were bloody serious. 76 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,640 It was not us. 77 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,760 We tried to make tough pictures and stuff, but it's ... 78 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:26,000 Kittil and I did not get it. We refused to look evil. 79 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,080 Øystein and Jørn were completely desperate. 80 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:36,560 What do you do in the future? Are you betting on getting a permanent vocalist? 81 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,320 Of course. We aim to get regular musicians. 82 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:45,720 The trouble is that there are so few people in Norway who like that kind of music. 83 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,840 There are even fewer who manage to play it. 84 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:58,240 We had a mailbox at Langhus post office. Box 75. 85 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:04,200 I lived at Langhus, so it was my job to empty it. 86 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,960 One day there was a package there. 87 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,520 I opened the package, - 88 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,760 - and there was only one such rotten ... 89 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,200 It smelled absolutely damn good. 90 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,880 I saw that it was a mouse. 91 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,560 Crucified on two sticks. 92 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,080 It was upstairs with a cassette. 93 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,000 It was the demo called ... 94 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,720 ... "December Moon" from a band called Morbid. 95 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:51,920 He has received information that we needed a vocalist. 96 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,680 He wondered if he could rehearse for us. 97 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,440 Here was my classroom when I went to school here. 98 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:14,560 Pelle went further down. There are three wings that go out. 99 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:20,600 We used to climb on the roof that goes between the wings. 100 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:26,280 When we got up, we had to bend down, so the caretaker did not see us. 101 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,440 Then we climbed further up here. 102 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:35,120 Here we had fun. We joked and fooled around with each other. 103 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,440 He told what he had done. 104 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:43,720 Maybe I should tell you what I did. 105 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:50,160 If he was interested. That's how big brothers are. You look up to them, - 106 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,120 - but they do not look up to little brother. 107 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,920 It was a great time. It's one of my best memories of him. 108 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,720 To have him a little for himself. 109 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,080 He was probably very different. 110 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:15,920 He went by the name "Horn-Per". 111 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,800 Everyone knew who he was. He had painted the moped completely black. 112 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,960 With pentagram on. No one else had. 113 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:31,440 When he went to this school, he went to a pretty close-knit class. 114 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:37,880 At this school he was well. It was like a small village school. 115 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:44,320 In secondary school, it was found that the classes should be divided. 116 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,160 It quickly went wrong. It was a harsh environment. 117 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:57,280 It was like that ... He was bullied by a gang. 118 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:05,800 He was beaten. Skambank. He was more or less beaten to death. 119 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,400 He had a very weak pulse, or no pulse. 120 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:18,120 Then he came to the hospital, and they cut open the whole stomach. 121 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:24,080 They soon saw that the spleen was broken. 122 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:32,600 He was beaten because he was a little weird. 123 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:38,200 He did not quite fit in anywhere. 124 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,960 He was very ashamed of this. 125 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,840 It was probably a bad time for him. 126 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:58,480 It ended well, after all, when he moved to Tungelstaskolan. 127 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:06,840 It got much better there. He made new friends. 128 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:12,000 He came home and said he was in a band. It was absolutely amazing. 129 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,680 No one understood anything. 130 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,600 The experiences from the hospital and the beating he received ... 131 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:34,040 He was fascinated by the fact that he actually died, or did not have a pulse. 132 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,360 It was an inspiration to him - 133 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,000 - to see death from within instead of from without. 134 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,600 "Here I have an infinite inspiration and power I can pick from." 135 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,440 It also made him later take the artist name "Dead". 136 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:56,520 When everyone wanted to look tough and stain their teeth, 137 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,920 - he had a mine where he tried to look dead. 138 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:35,040 Morbid had recorded a demo. 139 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,440 It was not as big as the LP. 140 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:48,400 He was very fascinated by Mayhem and what they had managed to produce. 141 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:54,320 He showed off their record and their band logo. 142 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,080 I remember it was a little intimidating. 143 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:04,040 It was scary just looking at the logo itself. 144 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,720 He said nothing to us, only that he was going to Norway. 145 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,800 Pelle had everything he owned. I was not prepared for that. 146 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:27,680 I thought he was going to audition, but he had decided. 147 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,160 He had a bag with everything he owned. 148 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,480 There were some clothes, some magazines ... The Phantom and Dracula. 149 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,720 A pair of ampoules of fake blood. 150 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:47,400 And cobwebs. That was what he had with him. His earthly goods. 151 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,880 The first thing we do is actually take pictures. 152 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,800 We drew the fake blood - 153 00:14:54,920 --> 00:15:00,960 - to see if we got any funny pictures for the promo. 154 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,280 This was going to be shitty. 155 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,000 He understood the music. He had a good voice. 156 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:22,280 He even had an image. He called himself "Dead". 157 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,400 It was all-consuming for him, it was not just image. 158 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,440 That was his main interest. 159 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,560 Life after death. 160 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:43,480 He talks a lot about lying in his coffin and getting bedsores ... 161 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:48,120 Starved himself to look dead. 162 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,640 I sit there and just ... "What is this for?" 163 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:59,040 "He's not kidding. There's nothing funny about this guy." 164 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:05,120 Not many days after that ... Then I was done. 165 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:13,240 Then I quietly pulled myself out of that whole environment, really. 166 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:21,200 Then came Jan Axel, who played a thousand times better than me. 167 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,320 He probably fit in much better. 168 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:33,160 This set is very similar to the one I have used all these years. 169 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,920 Jan Axel is a fantastic drummer. Perhaps one of the most talented. 170 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:49,720 He has helped to shape what is the style of Norwegian black metal. 171 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,640 I probably hit harder and was faster. 172 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:59,040 Quick bass drums and stuff. That was probably what the guys looked for the most. 173 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,480 From 88 to 91 they made their best songs. 174 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,760 That Hellhammer came in, I think contributed a lot to that. 175 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,880 Hellhammer's drumming took them to a new level. 176 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,920 Pelle's vision and texts as well. 177 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,840 I think he made Mayhem the Mayhem I liked. 178 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,640 What they made after he joined is what I like best. 179 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:31,040 He was perhaps the last piece to get the band perfect. 180 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,680 Freezing Moon. 181 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,840 "Freezing Moon" I remember very well. It was very long - 182 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:08,560 - a kind of underground hit. Øystein played it in many contexts. 183 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,640 It was like his signature song - 184 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:19,040 - when he found the right, new path for Mayhem, musically. 185 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,120 Very fun that there is a version with Pelle. 186 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:32,280 The Freezing Moon version with him is just completely ... Classic! 187 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,280 When I hear that, I still get chills. 188 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,200 He sang in an absolutely incredible way. 189 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,520 Very raw, uncut voice. 190 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:22,840 The way he phrased, the way he left his vocals ... 191 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:28,480 The way he got it out of his vocal cords was quite peculiar. 192 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,920 I think it was because. his empathy. 193 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:38,320 When he sang those songs, he was there. He was at the place he was singing about. 194 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:56,400 I remember Pelle had a bag of dead crows he had dug down - 195 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:02,160 - in advance of the recording. I had to hold it while he sang. 196 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:08,080 Between the verses he appeared in the bag and ... And then up again to sing. 197 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:16,240 He was very like that ... He was artistic in an extreme, weird way. 198 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:23,640 He managed to put such an aesthetic framework on textual content. 199 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,680 In what eventually became the Norwegian black metal. 200 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:34,680 Pelle put a kind of sophisticated touch on it. 201 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,800 Dark, but not violent. Mysterious, occult. 202 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:45,320 In many ways more "disturbing". The unknown. "What's happening here?" 203 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,880 "Who are you? What the hell is going on in your head?" 204 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,960 He wandered around in his own world. 205 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:04,280 He was kidding. He had some dark sides too. 206 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:09,120 It was clear that he was bothered by something. 207 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:20,440 For the first few years I had to write the lyrics, - 208 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:26,280 - where I pulled out elements from horror movies. 209 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:33,240 I mixed it with the sexual frustration I had as a teenager. 210 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:38,240 As ... Before you ... 211 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:41,880 Before you find someone to have sex with. 212 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,320 It was pretty primitive stuff. 213 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:54,000 While Pelle ... The lyrics he wrote, it was as dark as hell. 214 00:21:54,120 --> 00:22:00,560 It was about longing to get to the other side. 215 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,400 On the dead side. 216 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:10,240 These are some of the most personal texts I have read. 217 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:17,920 The strongest texts written. At least in black metal. 218 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:24,360 I did not see how personal it really was until afterwards. 219 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:33,960 Mayhem! Mayhem! Mayhem! Mayhem! 220 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,520 When Mayhem played at Jessheim on February 3, 1990, - 221 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,480 - it must be considered one of the first moments - 222 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:49,960 - where the black metal environment begins to sprout and grow. 223 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,040 The Jessheim concert was great. Finally, Mayhem was to play. 224 00:22:54,160 --> 00:23:00,880 They have practiced and practiced, and Aarseth has written letters to gather people. 225 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,200 People came from all sorts of places in Norway. 226 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:09,520 Everyone is there to see what Mayhem has come up with. 227 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:20,160 It was a typical community house, which can be found in all villages. 228 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:27,040 I was probably only fourteen years old. My father drove me and waited outside. 229 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:36,200 Outside the room, they talked a lot about Pelle. 230 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,760 What he wanted to invent. 231 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:47,920 It was fabulous. What would happen? Maybe an ambulance was ready? 232 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:54,440 Mayhem! Mayhem! Mayhem! Mayhem! 233 00:23:54,560 --> 00:24:00,640 I remember there was an incredible amount of clutter. Very unstructured. 234 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:06,320 It took a very long time between songs. They had technical problems. 235 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,200 I wonder if the sound went, the power went ... A lot of strange things happened. 236 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,520 The pissed off fuses in the shed go all the time! 237 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:24,240 Some people left before Mayhem would play. 238 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:30,320 They did not like mayhem. Mayhem was like just ... rubbish. 239 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,000 But the rest of us were a little more tough, we wanted to see them. 240 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,560 It was damn tough. 241 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,600 It took the whole scene to the next level. 242 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:17,640 It was groundbreaking to see Mayhem live with Dead on vocals. 243 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:24,440 The suit he was wearing. Ragged clothes, corpse make-up and ... 244 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:30,440 Texts and expressions that were such a worship of death. 245 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:36,160 It was not done at that level in Norway. 246 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,920 The feeling of being at a concert, and there were 100-120 pieces there, - 247 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:52,560 - and you feel that you are experiencing something completely new. Something no one has experienced before. 248 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,920 It created a tremendous impression. 249 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:06,200 In the audience that night, there are people who start bands like Emperor: 250 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,720 Bård Eithun and Thomas Haugen. 251 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,320 People who start Immortal: Olve Eikemo, Harald Nævdal. 252 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,240 Gylve Nagell, who already plays in Black Death, later Darkthrone. 253 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:22,760 Snorre Ruch, who later started Thorns. 254 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,960 All become part of the bedrock in Norwegian black metal. 255 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,440 Then I just have to say one thing. 256 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:56,040 In retrospect, I have read a number of letters and flyers Øystein has written. 257 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:02,160 Now people had to know the time of the visit and come to the concert. 258 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,320 He thought that Pelle should be cut up at the concert. 259 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:14,080 Pelle talked about doing it. It was part of the stage show. 260 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:19,280 He was going to spray blood on people. Øystein was really excited about it. 261 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,960 I was not turned on by it. I thought it was a stupid idea. 262 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,480 It was going too far. 263 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,680 I gave him some knives that were dull as hell, - 264 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,360 - for him to do such theatrical things with blunt knives. 265 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:42,120 Of course you did not go deep. Until it was not raw enough, - 266 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:48,920 - so he smashed a cola bottle and started with it. Then it went wrong. 267 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,560 He cut himself so damn hard that he had to leave the stage. 268 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,000 It was totally ... Yeah, damn it. 269 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:05,400 Øystein thought it was a cool thing. He knew it was a shock effect. 270 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:11,240 I thought it was not worth it. That buddy was too cool to ... 271 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:18,520 Even if he talked about it himself, I would not - 272 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,480 - encourage him to do it, but Øystein encouraged him to do it. 273 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,880 That was where things started to cut between me and Øystein. 274 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:36,000 I thought it was a little painful. A bit like a lack of empathy. 275 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:45,120 From then on, I also felt that Mayhem fell victim to - 276 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,120 - its own image. Øystein started to get a little weird then too. 277 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,800 Just that he thought this was really cool, sort of. 278 00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:00,440 He loved talking about Pelle to the rest of us - 279 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,840 - as a very strange, mysterious person. He talked for hours about - 280 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,760 - how expensive and exceptional Pelle was. 281 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,760 It is part of his myth-making around Pelle. 282 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:19,040 The Pelle of Reality, of which I also saw a part, was - 283 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:24,800 - a clearly bothered person. 284 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:31,120 He must have been deeply depressed. He needed help. 285 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,720 He did not have to end up in Øystein's stuff. 286 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:07,320 The tour was also something in itself. Øystein's indomitable optimism made - 287 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:13,800 - that we went with InterRail tickets, because they were cheap. We were broke. 288 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,040 There was so much shit all the time. 289 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,720 We were hungry, tired, tired ... 290 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:43,240 We are talking about very bad equipment and shabby schemes. 291 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,760 I don 't remember any of the concerts. Just all the shit. 292 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,880 Me, Øystein and Pelle lived together. 293 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,160 Øystein and Pelle began to quarrel and disagree. 294 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:24,040 Pelle was tired of Øystein's optimism which never led to anything. 295 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:32,840 It just resulted in chaos. Øystein was then annoyed and grumpy at him, - 296 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,880 - who just complained and sewed all the time. 297 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,680 Pelle was then to go home and did not bother with this nonsense anymore. 298 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:56,440 It had been Easter, and everyone in the band had been at home with their parents. 299 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,520 Pelle stayed in the house. He was probably alone then. 300 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,680 He was having a hell of a time. 301 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:11,960 Dad had been in touch with him and tried to encourage him to - 302 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,920 - to come to Stockholm and maybe go to school. 303 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,040 I think he was ashamed. 304 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,400 He was too proud to come home with his tail between his legs and say: 305 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:30,000 "It went to hell. Now I want a band where everyone is focused." 306 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:36,040 Or something like that. It was too hard for him to get home - 307 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,640 - with the tail between the legs and answer all the questions. 308 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,520 At the same time he must have had a depression. 309 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:52,800 So he went out into the woods and tried to kill himself. It did not go well. 310 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,200 Then he went back to the house - 311 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,840 - and shot himself with a shotgun that was lying there. 312 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,600 A few days after, or the same day, - 313 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,280 Øystein found him dead. 314 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,320 He probably did not quite know how to react. 315 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:26,800 He reacted by being elated and thought - 316 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:32,880 - that it was interesting, and he gets started, quite simply. 317 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,720 He goes out and buys a camera, and then he takes pictures of Pelle's body. 318 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,560 If I've got it right, he's moving things around a bit - 319 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,760 - so that he would look better. He arranged the pictures. 320 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:59,240 It was probably Øystein who called me. He said, "Pelle has gone home." 321 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,720 "What? Has he traveled to Sweden now?" "No, he's gone home." 322 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,040 "He has blown his hat off." 323 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,560 "Geez? Seriously?" "Yes, that's absolutely true." 324 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:17,040 "But!" Typical Øystein. "But I took pictures!" 325 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:24,240 Maybe not so surprised by the pictures, but the way he said it. 326 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,280 "What are we going to do with them?" 327 00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:34,440 The first time I meet Øystein again, he comes with an envelope. 328 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,360 Up there are some pictures. 329 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:45,480 When I realize that these are the pictures of Per, I just say: 330 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:52,320 "You have to burn those pictures. You can not contact me until that happens." 331 00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:58,680 But he did not. 332 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,680 When you get Jørn to quit Mayhem, you have in a way ... 333 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:12,080 Then it's over. It is clear that Øystein drew Mayhem's image into - 334 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,280 - something that was no longer fun. 335 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,840 It was just destructive. 336 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:26,080 Then I think Øystein realized that the material was very strong. 337 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:39,920 He understood that there was a strength in it. Or a force in the offensive images. 338 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,560 I was shocked when I heard what had happened. 339 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,960 That he had found him, fetched a camera, - 340 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,400 - taken pictures and all that. He showed me the pictures. 341 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,040 Unfortunately, those images were scattered. 342 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,720 Someone said Pelle was dead, but I thought it could not be true. 343 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,440 I met him a few months before, and we exchanged letters. 344 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:14,080 I sent a letter to Øystein and received a reply after a few days. That's right. 345 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:20,600 Then I got a piece of the skull, two hailstones and a little more. 346 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:26,600 I also received a letter from Øystein with a picture and a piece of skull. 347 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:32,680 That was just enough. It was very easy to lose Pelle. 348 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,800 He was a role model. Very cool vocalist who wrote good lyrics. 349 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,440 I had no special, deep reactions. 350 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,960 Other than that: "Oh fuck, tough!" It's completely hollow in the hat. 351 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,520 I did not think much. You were in a certain mode. 352 00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:02,320 It felt like ... something I could do myself. 353 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:08,880 Why did I have no reaction? Why did I not distance myself from it? 354 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,480 Maybe because you wanted to be in that environment? 355 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:22,920 You looked up to Øystein, perhaps, that was why you did everything, - 356 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,560 - or man ... There was a little brainwashing. 357 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,720 For Øystein, the Mayhem project is the only one. 358 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,720 That's what he works for. 359 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,440 You have to see it in that context. When this happens, - 360 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,280 - Øystein puts this into this project. 361 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,440 The music, black metal ... Building Mayhem. 362 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:54,080 Pelle was clearly part of the story of Mayhem. 363 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,600 He committed suicide early. 364 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:05,560 It also became such a mythical thing. It has helped Mayhem. 365 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:11,200 It's a morbid thing to say, but should one be ice cold - 366 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,560 - and just look at what it has done for the band, - 367 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,200 - has given them an incredible amount of free advertising. 368 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,360 It becomes part of the Mayhem myth. 369 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:35,280 I never got over that. 370 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:41,480 I have been annoyed all these years by products that I see. 371 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,680 T-shirts, plates and ... 372 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:51,200 That people use that image in a commercial context. 373 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:57,240 Whereupon it has become so common that people who have a T-shirt with that picture, - 374 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:03,880 - comes to me at a concert and asks for my autograph. 375 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,920 I really just most want to knock them straight down. 376 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:16,040 Yeah Al that sounds pretty crap to me, Looks like it aint for me either. 377 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:29,360 It has become a cult image. 378 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:35,080 The problem with that is that those who are fans, or write about music, - 379 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,760 - loses respect a little. They see the icon Dead, - 380 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:45,360 - which is his artist name. They see him and he's dead. 381 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,560 That's what they see. 382 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:56,080 What I see is something completely different. I see my big brother's tragic end. 383 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:01,800 It is as if I see all his suffering in one and the same picture. 384 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,640 If I become friends with someone on Facebook, - 385 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:13,320 - they can have the image in their stream. Then I usually say it's my brother. 386 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:19,760 "That picture is the worst I know." Then they answer: "Oi. Huff then. Sorry." 387 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,400 "Obviously I have to remove it." 388 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,920 The actors who spread the image, on the other hand, 389 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:33,400 - Facebook, Google, Instagram and all these ... 390 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:39,800 They will not hear about their role in this. 391 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,640 Sometimes there are fresh flowers here when I come. 392 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,920 So people come here all the time. 393 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,240 The hope lies in the fans. 394 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,960 Maybe a guy in Kiel writes: 395 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,160 "You should know that your brother's music has saved my life." 396 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:11,720 "He got me to school every day." That he is a positive driving force for many. 397 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,600 Something you get strength from. I'm very proud of that. 398 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:22,520 What else might you think of in connection with black metal and stuff, - 399 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:29,040 - is that it must be negative. Death, cremation and murder. 400 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,520 All such unpleasant things. But it is also ... 401 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:40,160 Like all music and art, there is also something that gives power and energy. 402 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,960 It is very powerful. 403 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:51,000 Dead is and remains a kind of saint figure - 404 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,960 - in black metal. 405 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,880 Such will always exist. 406 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,560 Especially in such a dramatically structured genre. 407 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:09,240 The live recordings of Pelle and his voice, - 408 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,680 - and his lyrics, it's ... 409 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:19,960 It is put on a pedestal, and most of the black metal ends up in the shade. 410 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:28,120 There was so much that fit into the little he had time to do. 411 00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:32,720 At the same time he was a boy from Stockholm. 412 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,960 Which unfortunately did not get older than he did. 35228

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