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An extremely important ingredient in black metal has always been mystery.
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Exploring darkness, death and evil, really.
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A rather deep abyss to descend into.
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There is a lot down there that most people are hardly prepared to face.
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It's about damn powerful things. Big, disturbing things.
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It can end in tragedy, total chaos or total triumph.
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Norwegian black metal is world famous.
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We have Ibsen, Kittelsen, Edvard Munch and Norwegian black metal.
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Black metal is part of the Norwegian DNA, whether you like it or not.
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-What is this? -It has become a religion.
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It was special young men who found each other.
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It made a very strong impression. This was my music.
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I probably had a feeling of being part of something new.
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It was absolutely king!
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It became more and more extreme. It was quite extreme from the first moment.
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The start of the extreme metal scene in Norway is Mayhem.
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Mayhem is in a way patient number one.
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Replacement, chaos, people took their lives, people died.
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No other Norwegian band has inspired more kids around the world
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to start with music than Mayhem has.
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They are probably the most important band in Norwegian rock.
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I've not been here ...
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Damn it! Over 30 years.
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It was raw. It smelled just like ... I recognized the smell.
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When you have not been here for 35 years and look out the window ...
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Suddenly you get such a déjà vu.
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That view there ... A place where you've been standing a lot, right?
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For several years, and then not in 30 years, and then suddenly you do.
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It's a little special.
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Moved to Vevelstad in 75.
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It was a completely new residential area.
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We had moved into one of the first blocks that was finished.
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A deposit was paid in a kind of condominium.
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It was an entrance for people who did not have much of a span.
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Mutter'n bought a house there. She was then 25 years old.
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I was seven. I was such a key child.
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I locked myself in when I got home from school.
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People in the blocks where I grew up, who were older than me ...
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We were interested in music and started bands.
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The coolest was the vocalist, then the soloist, rhythm guitarist,
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and the lowest on the ladder was the bassist. It was me.
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Let's see if there's any other shit left of us.
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Here! Yes!
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I'll take a picture of it.
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First we were called "Shoe Iron".
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Then came the idea of "Black City".
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I thought it sounded like glam rock, so I wanted to get them involved in something else.
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I asked a Finnish lady. "What does 'Black City' mean in Finnish?"
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She said: "musta kaupunki". Kaupunki was a bit long,
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so we ended up with "Musta".
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Then we got Kjetil Manheim, the son of the principal at the school, on the team.
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That was when we got this rehearsal room.
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Before that, we drank Coke and talked about how big we were going to be ...
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... in a boys' room in a block of flats. Down here, things started to happen.
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I remember that we were already a little quarrelsome in primary school.
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Discussive, right? We had an edge, we had some friction
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with what was going on around us. People were interested in sports.
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People were interested in pop music, a lot ... The same NRK programs.
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Interest in rabbits has grown strongly in recent times.
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I was not interested in it, and neither was Jørn.
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We were not involved in that thing. Maybe we were the ones who were a little different.
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Now I see something else there too. There.
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This is our first guitarist. Jan Erik Pedersen.
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Jørn and I did not share the ambitions of the others.
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We had some other ideas, so we let them know that this is not working.
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We wanted to explore places that were more aggressive and shocking.
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We continued in the rehearsal room, but only Jørn and I.
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We tried to find people we could play with.
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That summer I was going to audition for a band in Ski.
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They had sent a friend to show me where this was.
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It was Øystein.
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We talked together and we enjoyed the same kind of music. He played guitar,
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and he knew some of the songs we rehearsed here, me and Manheim.
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I asked him to come try out.
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The next day he arrived at the premises. Plugged in his Peavey Bandit.
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It is known for insane feedback. He had pedals with poor contact.
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So it howled and howled like hell.
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We played half a song.
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Looked at each other, and me and Øystein just ... "This is it!"
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It was a huge feeling of happiness. Like taking three miles in slow motion.
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I still remember that very clearly.
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Such important days in life that are like that ...
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Moments that define the rest of life.
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Then we started hanging out all the time.
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Øystein was my twin soul. Blood brother.
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Completely different from me. Like night and day.
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I liked everything that was fermented, he liked everything that was ...
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He was healthy, he trained and was super good at school.
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I was so good at school, Jørn was not so busy with school.
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-Eystein had top marks in everything. -He had a different upbringing than me.
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His parents were different from mine. He spoke very nicely.
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Defendant parents with first name.
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It was so damn formal all the time. Even at home.
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Sunday dinner every Sunday. He called it advice. Council meetings.
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There were two different worlds. It was yin and yang.
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Maybe that's one of the reasons why it turned out the way it did.
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That we were not equal, so we added something to each other.
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Øystein spoke the same language as us about where we wanted to be with music.
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This with hunting for something that went in an extreme direction, we agreed.
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Later we got on board vocalists who were completely in line with that.
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Billy was the first vocalist to join Mayhem properly.
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I needed something angry.
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I was looking for something that could give me that ...
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That joy, I would say, by just ...
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Me and Øystein were at a Dio concert in Drammenshallen.
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Then we see a guy who has a Venom spine.
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Such a sewing mark on the denim jacket.
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By the band Venom from Newcastle. They had hardly heard of anyone.
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Øystein and I were the only ones I knew who liked the band.
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Outside Drammenshallen we hear behind us:
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"Venom!"
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Then we turn around, and there are two black-clad guys
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with long hair, and they also had big Venom back marks.
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Then it was like ... "The tribe!"
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There was no one else. It was just us!
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When Venom came, it was also groundbreaking.
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They continued the first thing I felt when I heard Motörhead.
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They perpetuated the angry "fuck off" attitude.
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But at the same time it was metal.
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Black metal!
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Venom "coined the phrase" first -
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- by calling his music "black metal".
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Yet there was a bit of rock'n'roll at 45 with satanic spotting and ...
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Fandom violence all around.
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Where Black Sabbath had previously sung about Satan -
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- and the stuff there, then he was always such a "bad guy".
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One should be afraid of him.
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Suddenly Venom comes and sings that Satan is cool.
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He's really a fucking cool guy.
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To evoke an aura around the band that is special and can seem occult, -
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- was the common denominator for black metal in the 80's.
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We knew deep down that this was image.
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But we wanted it to be true.
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So we took it a step further.
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That was what they were focusing on, already in 1984.
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That things should be ugly. "It must then be possible to make the music for Venom" -
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- "much uglier."
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"And much faster!"
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If this is the worst thing you have ever heard, then you are absolutely right!
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It was the cinema hall in Ski. It was such a competition.
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It was a dolphin final in the NM in rock.
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Then all bands that signed up could get a chance.
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Then we grabbed it and signed up.
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We were supposed to be extreme. When I look at it today, it is very innocent.
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We had choreographed a show beforehand.
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I was going to smash my bass on the stage floor.
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It was supposed to be a grand finale.
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When the time comes for it, song number three or whatever it is, -
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- then I grab the bass and look down at the floor ...
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It looks like such an expensive ship floor.
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It suddenly looked damn expensive just before I had to crush the bass.
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At that moment ...
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... I break the bass on the knee instead.
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I discovered that this does not work. This is getting too expensive.
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Øystein mooned the assembly.
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It was like the statement we had.
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It was a bit like that ... "fuck you!" We came in last place of all the bands.
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We had reached the goal that we should be so sluggish, ugly and ugly -
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- and ugly.
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Fuck you!
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We wanted to shock. Maybe a little more than any youth.
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The starting point was the aggression against society and the authorities.
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I grew up in a free church environment. Did not have much left for the church.
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It is difficult for people to understand how monotonous, gray -
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- and oppressive Norwegian society was.
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Rauland in Telemark, a mountain village with about 1500 inhabitants.
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In Rauland, they only cover our one Norwegian television channel.
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-What do you like to watch on television? -Cartoons.
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And then I watch the Monday movie.
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-Do you see the detection class too? -Yes, sometimes.
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I grew up in a small village called Rauland.
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There was snowmobiling, skiing and football.
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I had no interest in that, but my father had a fun record collection ...
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... which was a forbidden area, but you did not stay away.
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It started there, with Black Sabbath.
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I still remember the hairs that rose when I heard -
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- the first Black Sabbath record that was "Paranoid".
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"What is this? It's absolutely amazing!"
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But then they started moving on, and I bought "Ace of Spades".
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"Damn it! It's brutal!"
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And punk, of course. Sex Pistols and all the usual bands.
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Especially the second wave with Chaos UK, The Exploited and all this.
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It was damn so extreme.
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When Metallica and Slayer released their first records,
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a mix of new wave, British heavy and punk, the list was made.
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It was an expression that appealed to me somewhat insanely.
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Then they began to look for what was even further down.
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Then they got hold of fanzines about all the underground bands.
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A whole world opened up.
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That's how I got into the underground. I bought an ink in '86.
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A fanzine, like the one under the counter.
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The fanzines were amateur magazines printed on A4 sheets and stapled together.
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Black and white. There were addresses of the various bands
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that had been written about. Bands that do not have record contracts.
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Then you order demos and send money in the mail.
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Suddenly you have a bunch of demos, maybe 20-30 pieces.
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Then there is someone in Singapore, the states or Sweden ...
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... who is eager to record some of the demos.
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And then I'm jumping on some of his demos. Then you change.
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We found that there was a circle of like-minded people in every country.
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We had a nascent, aggressive music movement, I would call it.
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Some called it thrash metal, some called it black metal.
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Death metal ... Dear children have many names.
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We got a lot of cool music.
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A bunch of people around the world who might have been seen as weirdos.
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But we knew where we had the music, and we knew what happened ...
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... long before the record companies released records three or four years later.
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I had a cassette player with a recording function.
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Then we recorded the first demo. "Pure fucking armageddon".
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In 1986.
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Page A is page "fuck". Page B is page "off". "Fuck off!"
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We know no one here likes it.
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Every time someone from outside came by, we were told
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that everything we did was just nonsense.
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No one wanted to hear what we were playing. We could just put Norway behind us -
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- and look beyond and say "shit in Norway".
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That we said we were investing internationally was just the way it was.
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There were no venues here. No record companies. Nothing happened.
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Here we had to work personally to spread the music.
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We were lucky because an enthusiast in Sarpsborg, Jon Kristiansen ...
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"Metalion" had Slayer Mag.
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He interviewed a bunch of bands in ink. In Germany, England, Italy ...
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He had contact with record stores that sold his magazine.
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He was good at distributing abroad.
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He picked up Mayhem early and was -
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- important for Mayhem's spread in a young underground environment.
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I bought the magazine, and there was an interview with Mayhem.
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Then I thought: "Damn, it's a Norwegian band!" The address was there.
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It was easy to get in touch, and we became good friends.
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Øystein was fantastic at it. He had pen pals all over the world.
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"Singapore! Do you think so, or? Singapore!"
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That made his day, that. "There are so many extreme people out there."
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"Absolutely wonderful to get in touch with everyone."
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It was not so careful whether it was black metal or death metal.
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Death metal had arrived, black metal was a record with Venom.
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That concept had not come completely.
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The genre was not so careful, it just had to be extreme.
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Everyone wanted to surpass each other. Everyone would be the most extreme.
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I had heard the Necrophagia demos. Killjoy's vocals ...
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It was so ridiculously expensive that I had to try to surpass it.
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I had not played much, I was just harrowing on the brute's guitar.
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I recorded it on an old cassette player.
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I made three or four songs, call it what you will, and send it to Øystein.
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He had a one-man band called Septic Cunts.
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He sang and played guitar on that tape.
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It sounded like ...
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It was so extreme.
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I got an answer from Øystein. A six-page letter.
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"That tape was ..."
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On the next page: "Huge! You have to sing with Mayhem!"
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I thought, "We have to have this on our record."
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"This is all over the top."
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We knew we were a little too extreme to be commercial enough
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for record companies, so we turned it around and thought
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it was commercial, but no one else understood.
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Thus, it was a kick in the ass to start your own record company.
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Going to the studio was a pretty high threshold for us.
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We had no sponsors. We managed to scrape together money.
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I think Jørn scraped together 90%, because he had a job.
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I looked up Yellow Pages in the telephone directory.
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I found Creative Studios in Kolbotn.
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It was cheap and close.
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We called in and booked studio time.
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He asked where our snare drum was.
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We were a bit like, "What do you mean?"
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He did not have a reggae snare drum.
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"I think you've misunderstood, we do not play reggae."
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It was hard to explain, so I said we should just hook up
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and get started.
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He put the settings on the instruments in relation to each other.
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I do not think he did much more than that.
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It was perhaps a blessing, in retrospect.
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Had he known what he was doing, it would have been completely different.
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This was completely "pure".
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I was very curious when I came into the studio.
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I did not know Maniac before.
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In what way does he approach music?
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I was very excited. I was so nervous that I almost twisted my pants.
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I was not a musician, I was. The others were at least musicians.
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I did not play anything. I played a little mouth harp.
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I was nervous. Completely sweaty, and everything tightened.
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Then the vocal cords also tighten.
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I could not get down to the way I had used my voice ...
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... as I sat relaxed in the living room. It became more high pitch.
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I remember that. I remember sitting behind the drum kit.
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Sven Erik just clinked and screamed.
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I thought, "OK, it works! I'm driving!"
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Billy just sat and gaped.
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-"What is this?" -"What is this?"
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So there were some pig howls of another world.
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It was not something anyone had heard before.
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It was like that ... It was ugly! That was bullshit!
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It was just like that ... "There it sat! That's how it should be!"
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It was the last piece that had to be done to make things extreme.
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We found a printing house on Nordstrand called Unitor.
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We gave them the assignment. We came up to the office and tore up the first eska.
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A pink record cover just laughs at us.
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It was so damn distasteful. It should be blood red!
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From blood red to pink, there are two completely different colors.
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The cover looked damn good.
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We who were opponents of hairspray metal and pastel colors ...
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It could not have been much worse, but at that very moment -
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- we just had to think that this is even more distasteful, -
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- so we just go with it. Instead of sending everything back -
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- we turned our own thing in our own head -
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- and thought that this was going to be damn distasteful and yeasty.
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So fermented that it turned out right. Sometimes yeast is right.
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This was correct.
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It's cool when you're finally on vinyl and have done everything yourself.
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It's a little cool.
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I was not prepared for that when I got the vinyl.
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I hung up and heard the creaking of the pin against the vinyl ...
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I suddenly heard that it was completely crystal clear sound.
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Almost got a little shocked at how good it was.
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It was absolutely magical.
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It was not so damn much kind word, that is. Nobody liked it.
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I do not remember anyone saying it was good. Actual.
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Thor-Rune Haugen wrote in Puls at the time, I think. He said:
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"I'm not sure if this record should be played at 33 or 45."
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"But anyway, it sounds like" -
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- "Captain Hook fingered Margaret Thatcher."
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That was the whole review.
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It was like ... "Yes! Absolutely King! Fantastic review!"
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It is not black metal as black metal was.
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But it is a very important precursor to it.
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I would argue. It made sure other bands did the same.
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In the surrounding areas, sort of. There was a guy on Kolbotn ...
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... who started with music at the time, and he's become very important.
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It was absolutely insane! The Deathcrush album is ...
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I think it's the rawest.
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Deathcrush sets a standard.
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It's simple, raw, brutal ...
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It was the incredible soundscape. Very much twisted.
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Sounds like the bass is upside down.
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Both heavy and extreme things.
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I really liked the riffs and the sound and the whole package.
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It sounded like the hinges had worked well. Totally toppers.
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That it was Norwegian, it was ... absolutely great!
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It helped start something that developed into
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what everyone knows as the Norwegian black metal today.
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That's how it started. Not necessarily the way it ended.
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It was a little more than we had expected. It took a while.
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