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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 3 00:00:16,103 --> 00:00:18,495 [crickets chirp] 4 00:00:44,392 --> 00:00:45,783 - [Mission Control] Okay, all flight controllers, RETRO. 5 00:00:45,828 --> 00:00:46,959 - [Man] Go. 6 00:00:47,003 --> 00:00:48,222 - [Mission Control] FIDO. - [Man] Go. 7 00:00:48,265 --> 00:00:49,439 - [Mission Control] Guidance. - [Man] Go. 8 00:00:49,484 --> 00:00:50,658 - [Mission Control] Control. - [Man] Go. 9 00:00:50,701 --> 00:00:51,529 - [Mission Control] TELCOMM. - [Man] Go. 10 00:00:51,573 --> 00:00:52,704 - [Mission Control] G. - [Man] Go. 11 00:00:52,747 --> 00:00:53,923 - [Mission Control] G-CM. - [Man] Go. 12 00:00:53,966 --> 00:00:54,837 - [Mission Control] Surgeon. - [Man] Go. 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:55,316 - [Man] We are go for launch. 14 00:00:55,359 --> 00:00:56,229 we're go. 15 00:00:56,273 --> 00:00:57,143 - [Man] 20 seconds and counting. 16 00:00:57,186 --> 00:00:58,710 - [Pilot],000 feet, 2,000 feet 17 00:00:58,753 --> 00:01:00,408 - [Mission Control] T-minus 15 seconds. 18 00:01:00,451 --> 00:01:01,408 Guidance is internal. 19 00:01:01,451 --> 00:01:05,152 12, 11, 10, 9. 20 00:01:05,194 --> 00:01:08,155 Ignition sequence start. 21 00:01:08,198 --> 00:01:13,073 [dramatic music] Six, five, four, three, two, one. 22 00:01:17,337 --> 00:01:20,254 [Saturn rocket engine roars] 23 00:01:27,347 --> 00:01:28,478 [metal clangs] 24 00:01:32,222 --> 00:01:34,354 ? 25 00:01:43,277 --> 00:01:44,799 [cameras clicking] 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,194 ? 27 00:01:59,206 --> 00:02:00,120 [separation charge explodes] 28 00:02:22,925 --> 00:02:25,406 - [Armstrong] That's one small step for man, 29 00:02:26,841 --> 00:02:29,844 one giant leap for mankind. 30 00:02:33,283 --> 00:02:34,502 [indistinct radio chatter] 31 00:02:41,682 --> 00:02:44,425 ? 32 00:02:48,037 --> 00:02:48,950 - [man] Did you open up? 33 00:02:52,259 --> 00:02:53,868 [rocket engine roars] 34 00:02:58,307 --> 00:03:04,879 ? 35 00:03:19,068 --> 00:03:22,941 ? 36 00:03:25,335 --> 00:03:27,945 - [Shatner] Space, the final frontier. 37 00:03:32,385 --> 00:03:34,604 [crowd cheers] 38 00:03:39,305 --> 00:03:41,221 - Nichelle Nichols is just absolutely fantastic. 39 00:03:41,742 --> 00:03:43,004 - One of my reasons for going to MegaCon 40 00:03:43,048 --> 00:03:43,961 was to see Nichelle. 41 00:03:44,006 --> 00:03:45,312 - Because, let's face it, 42 00:03:45,354 --> 00:03:46,921 a woman with a title in charge is pretty cool. 43 00:03:47,401 --> 00:03:48,009 - That's the thing. 44 00:03:49,271 --> 00:03:50,533 That's what's so great about Lieutenant Uhura. 45 00:03:50,578 --> 00:03:52,361 - She was my favorite character from the show. 46 00:03:52,753 --> 00:03:56,018 - When you meet Nichelle, it's like meeting a queen. 47 00:03:56,061 --> 00:03:58,628 Still gorgeous, still has so much presence. 48 00:03:59,325 --> 00:04:01,718 And, uh, she--her line was longer than mine. 49 00:04:01,763 --> 00:04:03,460 I was like, "Okay, Nichelle." 50 00:04:04,592 --> 00:04:06,027 - For most of the world, you know, 51 00:04:06,070 --> 00:04:08,335 Nichelle Nichols is Lieutenant Uhura, 52 00:04:08,377 --> 00:04:09,466 pop culture icon. 53 00:04:11,947 --> 00:04:13,295 But what they don't know is that 54 00:04:13,340 --> 00:04:15,254 she changed the space program forever. 55 00:04:16,343 --> 00:04:18,432 ? 56 00:04:20,476 --> 00:04:23,915 - We owe a great debt of gratitude to Nichelle Nichols, 57 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:25,961 not just through her acting, 58 00:04:26,004 --> 00:04:28,442 but it was what she personally chose to do. 59 00:04:30,487 --> 00:04:32,620 - I loved Uhura on Star Trek, 60 00:04:33,141 --> 00:04:35,971 but I wasn't aware of everything that she did off the screen. 61 00:04:38,408 --> 00:04:41,105 - I think it's one of the most fantastic stories 62 00:04:41,149 --> 00:04:42,978 to be told to the American people. 63 00:04:43,630 --> 00:04:45,415 [film reel clicking] 64 00:04:53,117 --> 00:04:53,683 [tone beeps] 65 00:04:56,687 --> 00:05:01,300 - [Miles] Well, uh, thanks for being you, number one. 66 00:05:02,649 --> 00:05:06,653 We'd love to hear how you went from Star Trek to NASA 67 00:05:06,697 --> 00:05:08,132 and the things you did with them. 68 00:05:08,177 --> 00:05:09,309 - Hmm. 69 00:05:10,745 --> 00:05:14,314 I guess it's sort of like going from fantasy to fact 70 00:05:14,704 --> 00:05:17,098 and then wondering which is the fantasy 71 00:05:17,141 --> 00:05:18,579 and which is the fact. 72 00:05:19,100 --> 00:05:23,365 So this gets sort of schizophrenic, you see. [laughs] 73 00:05:23,410 --> 00:05:26,021 [laughing] 74 00:05:31,026 --> 00:05:31,809 [chuckles] 75 00:05:33,463 --> 00:05:35,072 We're about to shoot, okay? 76 00:05:35,596 --> 00:05:38,033 ? 77 00:05:44,125 --> 00:05:47,042 I'm from Chicago, Illinois, born and raised. 78 00:05:47,608 --> 00:05:48,651 [trolley bell rings] 79 00:05:48,696 --> 00:05:50,045 I love Chicago. 80 00:05:51,742 --> 00:05:54,136 It's more than a Midwestern town. 81 00:05:54,178 --> 00:05:59,053 It's like a New York moved to the Midwest. 82 00:06:00,141 --> 00:06:03,406 - Nichelle was born before World War II, 83 00:06:03,449 --> 00:06:06,016 before Jackie Robinson, 84 00:06:06,060 --> 00:06:09,064 before the armed forces were integrated, 85 00:06:09,106 --> 00:06:11,500 a time of great segregation in America. 86 00:06:12,894 --> 00:06:15,678 - [Nichols] My father is Samuel L. Nichols, 87 00:06:15,723 --> 00:06:19,726 and he was from a well-to-do family. 88 00:06:20,901 --> 00:06:24,122 And my mother was not going to marry my father 89 00:06:24,165 --> 00:06:28,082 because...were not of the same class, 90 00:06:28,605 --> 00:06:32,391 and my father was determined to marry my mother. 91 00:06:33,262 --> 00:06:34,697 And thank God he did 92 00:06:34,742 --> 00:06:38,528 because together, they had six children, and I'm one. 93 00:06:39,268 --> 00:06:41,401 And I was my father's pet, 94 00:06:41,617 --> 00:06:45,795 so nobody would ever not know that [laughs] 95 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:49,582 who my father was, because he was always saying, 96 00:06:49,625 --> 00:06:50,800 "This is my daughter. 97 00:06:50,845 --> 00:06:53,194 She's going to grow up to be a star." 98 00:06:54,543 --> 00:06:59,156 I took ballet from the time I was a young girl. 99 00:06:59,201 --> 00:07:04,206 I was determined to be the first black ballerina. 100 00:07:04,249 --> 00:07:06,555 The class that I went to, 101 00:07:07,165 --> 00:07:11,605 I think I was the only African American in the class. 102 00:07:11,952 --> 00:07:14,129 ? 103 00:07:14,564 --> 00:07:17,524 I grew up believing that I could become 104 00:07:17,567 --> 00:07:19,177 anything that I wanted to be. 105 00:07:20,177 --> 00:07:23,268 And of course, my father told me that 106 00:07:23,312 --> 00:07:25,531 from the time I was a child. 107 00:07:25,574 --> 00:07:29,665 And my mother used to say, "Sam, Samuel, 108 00:07:29,709 --> 00:07:33,540 please don't put those ideas in that child's brain." 109 00:07:33,757 --> 00:07:37,848 And he said, "She's going to be what she's going to be." 110 00:07:38,805 --> 00:07:41,764 And he said, "Remember when they told you, Lisha, 111 00:07:41,808 --> 00:07:45,507 don't marry Samuel Nichols?" [laughs] 112 00:07:45,552 --> 00:07:47,117 [crowd applauds] 113 00:07:47,161 --> 00:07:48,771 - Most people don't know that she started out 114 00:07:48,816 --> 00:07:50,252 as a dancer and a singer. 115 00:07:50,295 --> 00:07:52,209 - [Nichols] I love musical theater. 116 00:07:52,994 --> 00:07:55,909 So dance was now just a component 117 00:07:56,300 --> 00:07:59,173 of singing, dancing, acting. 118 00:08:00,348 --> 00:08:03,526 And I discovered that I had this very strange voice 119 00:08:03,831 --> 00:08:07,182 because I could sing high soprano. 120 00:08:07,617 --> 00:08:12,665 And I had this nice low voice and I could [vocalizes], 121 00:08:13,014 --> 00:08:14,581 and I could sing down here, 122 00:08:14,624 --> 00:08:15,843 ? Moaning low 123 00:08:15,886 --> 00:08:16,843 [laughs] 124 00:08:18,889 --> 00:08:21,283 I had my first professional job 125 00:08:22,023 --> 00:08:24,504 when I was 14 years old in Chicago 126 00:08:24,764 --> 00:08:27,507 at the um, downtown at the Sherman House. 127 00:08:27,855 --> 00:08:30,247 When all of the great talent came, 128 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:31,901 they played the Sherman House. 129 00:08:32,642 --> 00:08:34,209 It was the only hotel 130 00:08:34,251 --> 00:08:37,517 that allowed black people to come and--and stay. 131 00:08:37,908 --> 00:08:39,605 I was fortunate and honored 132 00:08:39,649 --> 00:08:42,259 to meet so many great performers then. 133 00:08:43,043 --> 00:08:44,740 Without question, however, 134 00:08:46,047 --> 00:08:48,962 the highlight was meeting the great Duke Ellington. 135 00:08:49,005 --> 00:08:49,876 ? 136 00:08:51,355 --> 00:08:53,576 He was performing at the Chicago Theater 137 00:08:53,923 --> 00:08:56,536 and asked the publicist to find me. 138 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,715 And he was looking for someone like me, evidently, 139 00:09:02,366 --> 00:09:07,024 but older, so I got older. [laughs] 140 00:09:07,067 --> 00:09:08,764 [camera shutter clicking] 141 00:09:08,808 --> 00:09:11,594 He gulped, looked me straight in the face and said, 142 00:09:11,638 --> 00:09:16,817 "Well, that's just about the range we're looking for." 143 00:09:17,381 --> 00:09:21,951 He wanted me to perform a ballet to one of his suites. 144 00:09:21,995 --> 00:09:26,260 So I got two guys and we did this fantastic ballet. 145 00:09:27,783 --> 00:09:31,875 Every night, I used to go stand in the--in the curtain 146 00:09:31,918 --> 00:09:37,837 just before I went on and watch this tall willowy gal, 147 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,057 who was the band singer, sing 148 00:09:41,101 --> 00:09:44,801 and the way she wrapped herself around the microphone. 149 00:09:45,409 --> 00:09:46,846 I was just in awe. 150 00:09:46,889 --> 00:09:48,283 ? 151 00:09:50,153 --> 00:09:52,634 Towards the end of the tour, which was about three months, 152 00:09:52,678 --> 00:09:55,376 Mr. Ellington called me to his dressing room 153 00:09:55,419 --> 00:09:58,727 and he said, "Sing something for me." 154 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,820 And I looked at him and I said, "Sing what?" 155 00:10:03,864 --> 00:10:06,953 And he said, "Well, you can sing, can't you?" 156 00:10:07,475 --> 00:10:09,652 He said, "You've still got that little gold dress 157 00:10:09,696 --> 00:10:11,393 that you wore before we left?" 158 00:10:11,436 --> 00:10:13,743 And I said, "Oh, yes, I've even got the gold shoes." 159 00:10:13,787 --> 00:10:15,615 And he said, "Great. 160 00:10:16,136 --> 00:10:17,312 You go on tonight." 161 00:10:18,008 --> 00:10:19,749 ? 162 00:10:20,445 --> 00:10:22,403 I said, "Do what?" 163 00:10:23,447 --> 00:10:25,625 And he says, "The singer's sick. 164 00:10:26,147 --> 00:10:27,801 She had to leave the band. 165 00:10:28,018 --> 00:10:30,716 She's not going to finish the tour. 166 00:10:30,759 --> 00:10:31,630 You are." 167 00:10:32,980 --> 00:10:35,330 I've never been so scared in my life, 168 00:10:35,982 --> 00:10:38,638 but I was determined to never show it. 169 00:10:38,899 --> 00:10:42,423 And so I went on [vocalizes] 170 00:10:42,466 --> 00:10:46,123 and I would get wonderful applause, 171 00:10:46,167 --> 00:10:49,431 but I noticed that the band was kind of going[snorts]. 172 00:10:50,345 --> 00:10:53,956 And Duke Ellington is actually playing piano for me. 173 00:10:54,436 --> 00:10:57,481 His back is kind of sideway-- to the audience, 174 00:10:57,525 --> 00:10:59,005 and he tried not to show it. 175 00:10:59,745 --> 00:11:01,703 He finally comes to me and said, 176 00:11:01,748 --> 00:11:03,793 "What are you doing with that microphone?" 177 00:11:04,184 --> 00:11:06,013 And I said, "I'm... 178 00:11:07,797 --> 00:11:08,668 singing." 179 00:11:10,191 --> 00:11:12,409 He said, "The gal-- last gal who did that 180 00:11:12,453 --> 00:11:14,107 was twice as tall as you. 181 00:11:14,150 --> 00:11:16,370 And the only reason she hung on to that mic 182 00:11:16,413 --> 00:11:18,373 is because she would have fallen down." 183 00:11:18,807 --> 00:11:20,722 He says, "You don't need to hug the mic 184 00:11:20,767 --> 00:11:23,812 "and [laughs] and do all of those gyrations. 185 00:11:23,856 --> 00:11:24,945 You've got a voice. 186 00:11:24,988 --> 00:11:26,990 Now, just sing. Do your thing." 187 00:11:27,033 --> 00:11:31,865 And that's when I first learned not to be like anybody else, 188 00:11:32,212 --> 00:11:33,822 to be yourself. 189 00:11:35,129 --> 00:11:37,086 And it was the greatest thing that ever happened. 190 00:11:40,394 --> 00:11:41,657 ? 191 00:11:41,701 --> 00:11:46,530 I was booked in Hawaii, and I was so excited. 192 00:11:46,575 --> 00:11:51,361 But at that time, you couldn't fly from Chicago to Hawaii. 193 00:11:51,405 --> 00:11:56,716 You had to come to Los Angeles, and that changed my life. 194 00:11:57,846 --> 00:11:59,543 [airplane engine roaring] 195 00:11:59,587 --> 00:12:02,504 While I went to Hawaii and loved Hawaii, 196 00:12:02,938 --> 00:12:05,768 I couldn't wait to get back to California. 197 00:12:05,812 --> 00:12:08,423 I thought it was the most beautiful place. 198 00:12:08,857 --> 00:12:12,861 I wound up, of course, moving to Los Angeles. 199 00:12:14,558 --> 00:12:20,826 I found acting was something that I loved and wanted to do 200 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:22,828 and began to excel at. 201 00:12:22,871 --> 00:12:25,440 ? 202 00:12:27,136 --> 00:12:29,836 - Gene Roddenberry had a TV show calledThe Lieutenant, 203 00:12:30,096 --> 00:12:32,403 and he did an episode that centered on race 204 00:12:32,447 --> 00:12:34,014 that Nichelle was actually in. 205 00:12:35,884 --> 00:12:38,105 - [Nichols] The Lieutenant was my first role on television, 206 00:12:39,628 --> 00:12:41,890 and it was a wonderful role. 207 00:12:42,239 --> 00:12:43,066 Hey, guess what. 208 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:43,763 - Hmm? 209 00:12:44,588 --> 00:12:45,764 - I found a job already. 210 00:12:46,591 --> 00:12:47,157 - At the county? 211 00:12:47,897 --> 00:12:48,985 - It's not that easy. 212 00:12:50,421 --> 00:12:51,988 - [Nichols] I was so new to the business 213 00:12:52,553 --> 00:12:54,469 that when the director told me 214 00:12:54,511 --> 00:12:59,038 to step into my key light, I didn't know where to turn. 215 00:12:59,908 --> 00:13:01,083 I thought after a few years, 216 00:13:01,128 --> 00:13:02,519 a person would start to grow a little. 217 00:13:02,563 --> 00:13:04,913 - [Nichols] Working in television 218 00:13:04,957 --> 00:13:07,568 was not that pleasurable for me. 219 00:13:08,177 --> 00:13:09,484 It's a wonderful medium, 220 00:13:11,006 --> 00:13:14,836 but it really throws a-a-a theater actor, 221 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,491 a performer at first. 222 00:13:17,884 --> 00:13:19,537 ? 223 00:13:19,581 --> 00:13:20,408 Oh, Ernie. 224 00:13:21,582 --> 00:13:23,149 - [Nichols] We were shooting at night, 225 00:13:23,976 --> 00:13:28,503 and this person kept hovering over me. 226 00:13:28,937 --> 00:13:31,548 And I said, "Look, you," and then I noticed 227 00:13:31,592 --> 00:13:35,162 that this guy was smoking with a cigarette between-- 228 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:36,903 - [Interviewer] A-ha. - ...his finger. 229 00:13:36,946 --> 00:13:38,860 And I'd only seen one other person do that. 230 00:13:38,904 --> 00:13:40,644 And I turned around and said, "Look, you! 231 00:13:40,688 --> 00:13:42,951 [gasps] Mr. Roddenberry!" [laughs] 232 00:13:42,995 --> 00:13:45,040 It was this one. [laughs] 233 00:13:45,085 --> 00:13:46,520 ? 234 00:13:46,563 --> 00:13:51,481 - I became essentially who I became 235 00:13:51,525 --> 00:13:53,048 through Gene Roddenberry. 236 00:13:53,267 --> 00:13:55,008 ? 237 00:13:56,182 --> 00:13:59,533 He, I--I guess you could say, discovered me. 238 00:14:01,623 --> 00:14:03,538 It--it was meant to be. 239 00:14:04,931 --> 00:14:06,628 And we knew that from day one 240 00:14:06,671 --> 00:14:09,543 because he talked exactly like my father. 241 00:14:10,674 --> 00:14:13,068 - [Crump] Because that episode centered on race 242 00:14:13,113 --> 00:14:16,681 was so controversial, they didn't actually air it. 243 00:14:16,725 --> 00:14:18,552 ? 244 00:14:18,596 --> 00:14:19,553 [indistinct shouting] 245 00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:22,644 That so aggravated Gene Roddenberry 246 00:14:22,687 --> 00:14:25,647 that he decided he would figure out how to tell 247 00:14:25,690 --> 00:14:27,649 those types of stories in a different way. 248 00:14:28,389 --> 00:14:30,129 [keys clacking] 249 00:14:30,390 --> 00:14:32,261 - [Nichols] On several occasions, Gene remarked, 250 00:14:32,697 --> 00:14:34,134 "I've got something in mind 251 00:14:34,177 --> 00:14:36,048 that I think is going to come about. 252 00:14:36,091 --> 00:14:37,267 And if it does, 253 00:14:38,921 --> 00:14:39,573 there'll be something important in it for you." 254 00:14:41,967 --> 00:14:46,928 I always knew that where he was going 255 00:14:47,408 --> 00:14:52,282 was going to be fresh and new and exciting but enlightening. 256 00:14:53,283 --> 00:14:54,894 He was brilliant in that way. 257 00:14:56,155 --> 00:14:58,679 He loved to talk politics with me. 258 00:14:58,722 --> 00:14:59,288 [telephone rings] 259 00:15:00,595 --> 00:15:02,292 We talked and talked and talked. 260 00:15:02,683 --> 00:15:04,642 - [Gene on phone] ...world of the future portrayed-- 261 00:15:04,686 --> 00:15:07,950 - [Nichols] I remember him talking about something 262 00:15:07,994 --> 00:15:10,909 that had people of all races. 263 00:15:11,388 --> 00:15:14,043 And I said, "Cool. That's a--let me know. 264 00:15:14,086 --> 00:15:17,046 You know, that's...that's what I'm talking about here." 265 00:15:17,090 --> 00:15:18,743 ? 266 00:15:18,787 --> 00:15:21,094 I'd just finished a marvelous engagement in London 267 00:15:21,136 --> 00:15:23,269 and gone on to Paris 268 00:15:23,312 --> 00:15:25,315 when a couple of telegrams found me. 269 00:15:25,359 --> 00:15:28,144 "Come home immediately," my agent had wired. 270 00:15:28,448 --> 00:15:30,145 "They're doingStar Trek ." 271 00:15:30,625 --> 00:15:32,322 "Star what?" I wondered. 272 00:15:33,105 --> 00:15:36,673 When I went to read for the part, it was very funny. 273 00:15:36,717 --> 00:15:39,634 They had not written Uhura, she was not named. 274 00:15:39,677 --> 00:15:43,158 They said, "Would you be so kind 275 00:15:43,202 --> 00:15:45,292 as to read the role of Spock?" 276 00:15:45,726 --> 00:15:50,210 And I said, "Well, tell me something about this character. 277 00:15:50,471 --> 00:15:51,645 What is she like?" 278 00:15:53,648 --> 00:15:55,998 And they stopped and looked at me. 279 00:15:56,042 --> 00:15:57,173 And so the director said, 280 00:15:57,216 --> 00:15:58,696 "No, no, no, you won't be playing Spock. 281 00:15:58,740 --> 00:15:59,174 Spock is a man." 282 00:15:59,870 --> 00:16:00,960 Could it be a woman? 283 00:16:01,785 --> 00:16:02,918 And they said, "Yes, 284 00:16:02,961 --> 00:16:05,051 but Leonard Nimoy would not like it." 285 00:16:05,442 --> 00:16:08,096 And I said, "Fine, but tell me about Spock, 286 00:16:08,140 --> 00:16:09,272 because you can't tell me 287 00:16:09,316 --> 00:16:11,621 about the female communications officer 288 00:16:11,666 --> 00:16:13,101 'cause you haven't created her yet." 289 00:16:13,841 --> 00:16:16,018 And they looked at me like, you know, 290 00:16:16,062 --> 00:16:18,673 like the dog looks at you. [laughs] 291 00:16:18,716 --> 00:16:20,240 You know, every time you see a little doggy 292 00:16:20,283 --> 00:16:23,198 and talk to him, he goes. [laughs] 293 00:16:23,504 --> 00:16:25,679 And the next thing I know, I'm reading for it. 294 00:16:25,722 --> 00:16:27,115 And I get to the bottom of the page. 295 00:16:28,812 --> 00:16:31,206 Finally, Joe Sargent, who was the director, said, 296 00:16:31,511 --> 00:16:32,774 "Come on, big talent. 297 00:16:32,817 --> 00:16:33,993 Let's go to lunch. 298 00:16:34,036 --> 00:16:35,690 You had it when you walked in the door." 299 00:16:36,778 --> 00:16:40,389 I had a big book when I came in. 300 00:16:40,825 --> 00:16:42,392 It was calledUhuru, 301 00:16:43,697 --> 00:16:47,005 and"Uhuru" is Swahili for freedom. 302 00:16:47,397 --> 00:16:50,399 Gene asked to see me and he said, 303 00:16:50,443 --> 00:16:53,360 "I really liked this, the book you brought in. 304 00:16:53,837 --> 00:16:59,278 But what I really am interested in is the name, 305 00:16:59,888 --> 00:17:00,715 Uhuru." 306 00:17:02,325 --> 00:17:05,720 He says, "I want to do something with it that involves you." 307 00:17:06,373 --> 00:17:09,288 I said, "Well, why don't you do an alliteration of it 308 00:17:09,549 --> 00:17:12,727 and soften the end with an A and it'll be Uhura." 309 00:17:14,423 --> 00:17:16,164 And I named the character. 310 00:17:18,253 --> 00:17:18,819 [chuckles] 311 00:17:19,211 --> 00:17:20,734 ? 312 00:17:40,189 --> 00:17:44,063 - Gene Roddenberry was an enormously gifted storyteller. 313 00:17:44,366 --> 00:17:47,153 He used science fiction as a metaphor 314 00:17:47,457 --> 00:17:49,763 for the realities of the time. 315 00:17:50,155 --> 00:17:51,548 - That was one of the core things 316 00:17:51,592 --> 00:17:53,462 that Gene Roddenberry wanted to have in the show, 317 00:17:53,942 --> 00:17:56,770 was more diversity, more cooperation, 318 00:17:57,163 --> 00:17:59,251 a positive, exciting view of the future. 319 00:17:59,295 --> 00:18:00,817 - My father looked at life 320 00:18:00,862 --> 00:18:02,864 I think the way we should all look at life, 321 00:18:02,906 --> 00:18:05,213 which is to embrace the diversity 322 00:18:05,474 --> 00:18:07,868 whether it's in physical feature and form 323 00:18:07,912 --> 00:18:09,218 or thought, idea. 324 00:18:09,435 --> 00:18:11,133 - The concept of Star Trek 325 00:18:11,176 --> 00:18:13,875 is--is--is quite extraordinary and unprecedented. 326 00:18:14,267 --> 00:18:15,484 I can't think of anything 327 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,878 that has had that kind of lifespan. 328 00:18:17,922 --> 00:18:21,796 - The fact that it was set in a distant time and place 329 00:18:22,926 --> 00:18:27,105 gave it access to the present 330 00:18:27,932 --> 00:18:30,369 in a way storytelling of the present would not. 331 00:18:30,979 --> 00:18:34,939 - It was one of the first mainstream science fiction shows 332 00:18:34,982 --> 00:18:37,855 that really dealt with the issues 333 00:18:37,898 --> 00:18:39,814 that we were dealing with at the time. 334 00:18:40,467 --> 00:18:42,598 - Lokai is of an inferior breed. 335 00:18:42,990 --> 00:18:45,819 - [Spock] The obvious visual evidence, Commissioner, 336 00:18:45,863 --> 00:18:49,127 is that he is of the same breed as yourself. 337 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:52,347 - Are you blind, Commander Spock? 338 00:18:52,392 --> 00:18:53,132 Look at me. 339 00:18:54,872 --> 00:18:56,265 I am black on the right side. 340 00:18:57,005 --> 00:18:58,267 Lokai is white on the right. 341 00:18:58,310 --> 00:19:00,487 All of his people are white on the right side. 342 00:19:01,269 --> 00:19:03,184 - When I started watching Star Trek 343 00:19:03,229 --> 00:19:04,925 was right at the beginning, 344 00:19:04,969 --> 00:19:07,929 show one, year--year one. 345 00:19:07,971 --> 00:19:10,932 I saw it, and I watched every episode. 346 00:19:10,974 --> 00:19:12,846 - I couldn't believe the diversity 347 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:15,153 that was on the bridge at the time. 348 00:19:15,196 --> 00:19:17,199 - [Takei] North America represented by the Captain. 349 00:19:17,503 --> 00:19:20,984 Europe represented by a Scottish engineer, 350 00:19:21,028 --> 00:19:24,250 Asia represented by my character. 351 00:19:24,292 --> 00:19:26,903 But we also saw another part of the world 352 00:19:26,948 --> 00:19:30,951 that rarely gets represented in that kind of mix, 353 00:19:30,994 --> 00:19:33,998 Africa represented by an African woman. 354 00:19:34,041 --> 00:19:36,261 - Nichelle at that time 355 00:19:36,305 --> 00:19:38,567 was one of the faces that we had to see. 356 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,963 - The world got to see that like our women are strong, yes, 357 00:19:43,007 --> 00:19:44,182 but they're also smart. 358 00:19:45,183 --> 00:19:47,010 - She was the best person for that job. 359 00:19:47,055 --> 00:19:49,317 And it didn't matter if she was male or female. 360 00:19:50,013 --> 00:19:50,927 - [electricity zapping] - Progress report. 361 00:19:52,494 --> 00:19:54,497 - Mr. Spock, I haven't done anything like this in years. 362 00:19:54,932 --> 00:19:56,151 If it isn't done just right, 363 00:19:56,194 --> 00:19:58,326 I could blow the entire communications system. 364 00:19:58,980 --> 00:20:00,373 It's very delicate work, sir. 365 00:20:01,025 --> 00:20:02,201 - I can think of no one 366 00:20:03,201 --> 00:20:04,333 better equipped to handle it, Miss Uhura. 367 00:20:08,597 --> 00:20:10,686 [chuckles] 368 00:20:10,730 --> 00:20:15,344 Any time Uhura got to get off the bridge. [laughs] 369 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,607 - I submitted several episodes, 370 00:20:18,652 --> 00:20:20,219 and they bought one for 371 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,349 the second season. 372 00:20:21,394 --> 00:20:22,525 ? 373 00:20:22,568 --> 00:20:24,353 The great part about it 374 00:20:25,006 --> 00:20:27,964 was that I got to meet Nichelle before I got to script. 375 00:20:28,009 --> 00:20:30,010 And she was wearing that incredible 376 00:20:30,054 --> 00:20:31,446 two-piece bikini outfit, 377 00:20:31,490 --> 00:20:32,926 from "Mirror, Mirror" episode. 378 00:20:33,492 --> 00:20:35,016 So I got to see much more of Nichelle 379 00:20:35,058 --> 00:20:37,236 than I ever expected to. 380 00:20:38,061 --> 00:20:41,282 My God, that woman was the most beautiful woman 381 00:20:41,326 --> 00:20:42,936 I had ever been in the presence of. 382 00:20:43,502 --> 00:20:45,634 And, you know, here's this awkward geeky kid, 383 00:20:46,027 --> 00:20:48,595 still in college and very nerdy. 384 00:20:48,637 --> 00:20:52,468 And I come into the presence of this incredibly beautiful, 385 00:20:52,511 --> 00:20:56,645 talented woman, and I was just heart-stopping speechless. 386 00:20:57,038 --> 00:20:58,952 - Nichelle Nichols had that effect on people. 387 00:20:59,387 --> 00:21:04,262 - Personally, when I saw Nichelle on the show, I got, 388 00:21:04,959 --> 00:21:07,048 yeah, I could date a woman like that. 389 00:21:07,090 --> 00:21:09,397 - Lieutenant Uhura, I was in love with. 390 00:21:09,442 --> 00:21:10,703 She was a knockout. 391 00:21:10,747 --> 00:21:12,575 - [beeping] - Actresses for 2,000. 392 00:21:12,618 --> 00:21:14,750 - [Trebek] In the 1968 episode, 393 00:21:14,795 --> 00:21:16,362 "Plato's Stepchildren," 394 00:21:16,665 --> 00:21:18,058 she went where few women 395 00:21:18,102 --> 00:21:18,972 had gone before, 396 00:21:20,409 --> 00:21:22,672 one of TV's first interracial kisses. 397 00:21:23,542 --> 00:21:25,326 Margie. - Who is Nichelle Nichols? 398 00:21:25,371 --> 00:21:26,459 - [Trebek] Yes! - [dings] 399 00:21:26,501 --> 00:21:28,112 - That was still a time in television 400 00:21:28,155 --> 00:21:32,682 where contact between people of different races 401 00:21:32,726 --> 00:21:35,990 and different sexes was very controversial. 402 00:21:36,685 --> 00:21:40,080 TV affiliates in the Southern states would react. 403 00:21:40,124 --> 00:21:42,300 - They were stuck in that mind frame 404 00:21:43,388 --> 00:21:44,302 um, 405 00:21:45,128 --> 00:21:48,611 that "minorities" had to be 406 00:21:48,654 --> 00:21:50,569 in a subservient position. 407 00:21:51,657 --> 00:21:54,095 - This was a challenging time for people of color 408 00:21:54,137 --> 00:21:56,705 trying to make their way in film and television. 409 00:21:57,010 --> 00:21:58,011 There weren't a lot of roles. 410 00:21:59,796 --> 00:22:01,537 - [Nichols] Uhura was a new kind of television woman. 411 00:22:01,842 --> 00:22:04,452 Yet, it was becoming uncomfortably obvious 412 00:22:04,497 --> 00:22:08,065 that whatever ambitious plans Gene had for my character, 413 00:22:08,457 --> 00:22:11,460 Uhura's role was constantly being diminished. 414 00:22:12,417 --> 00:22:16,726 Even in the enlightened 23rd century of Gene's imagination, 415 00:22:16,769 --> 00:22:20,469 a strong, independent black woman was not welcome. 416 00:22:22,123 --> 00:22:29,173 To me, it seemed there were always "female roles," 417 00:22:29,217 --> 00:22:31,740 but roles were male roles, 418 00:22:32,133 --> 00:22:34,569 and then there were the "female roles." 419 00:22:34,614 --> 00:22:37,486 Well, this was not a "female role," 420 00:22:38,748 --> 00:22:43,362 and I refused to treat it that way. 421 00:22:44,231 --> 00:22:46,712 We're not just fancy little... 422 00:22:49,105 --> 00:22:52,153 [chuckling] We are tough broads, you know. 423 00:22:52,632 --> 00:22:57,506 We're human beings, and we come in all forms. 424 00:22:58,115 --> 00:23:00,682 Directors tried to even change me, 425 00:23:00,727 --> 00:23:04,730 make me more feminine, [laughs] make me-- 426 00:23:06,863 --> 00:23:09,518 - Would Uhura? [laughs] 427 00:23:10,737 --> 00:23:12,868 - I tried often to write scenes for her. 428 00:23:12,913 --> 00:23:14,218 Usually, I tried to make them 429 00:23:14,261 --> 00:23:16,568 emotional, personal kinds of scenes 430 00:23:16,612 --> 00:23:18,134 where there was some conflict going on 431 00:23:18,570 --> 00:23:20,094 that the women had to resolve 432 00:23:20,136 --> 00:23:22,182 or that they were strongly involved in. 433 00:23:22,226 --> 00:23:24,663 - [Nichols] There were marvelous scripts. 434 00:23:24,881 --> 00:23:27,710 And so you'd get it and you'd see this wonderful script 435 00:23:27,753 --> 00:23:29,582 that involves you so well. 436 00:23:29,798 --> 00:23:32,453 And then you'd get the revisions, 437 00:23:32,498 --> 00:23:33,933 and then you'd get the pink revisions, 438 00:23:33,977 --> 00:23:35,674 and then you'd get the orchid revisions, 439 00:23:35,718 --> 00:23:36,675 and then you're down to-- 440 00:23:36,936 --> 00:23:38,590 Hailing frequencies open, sir. 441 00:23:38,634 --> 00:23:40,201 Hailing frequencies open, sir. 442 00:23:40,243 --> 00:23:41,549 Hailing frequencies, sir. 443 00:23:41,594 --> 00:23:42,246 Hailing frequencies. 444 00:23:42,289 --> 00:23:43,160 Hailing frequencies. 445 00:23:43,203 --> 00:23:44,423 Hailing frequencies open, sir. 446 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,119 Hailing frequencies open. 447 00:23:46,163 --> 00:23:46,903 - Lieutenant Uhura. 448 00:23:48,035 --> 00:23:49,339 - Hailing frequencies still open, sir. 449 00:23:49,384 --> 00:23:51,865 - And there's a legendary story about one day, 450 00:23:52,256 --> 00:23:53,866 Nichelle turns to the camera and says, 451 00:23:53,910 --> 00:23:57,260 "If I have to say 'open hailing frequencies' one more time, 452 00:23:57,305 --> 00:23:58,653 I'm gonna blow up this console." 453 00:24:00,307 --> 00:24:01,527 She was so frustrated with not getting to do more. 454 00:24:02,135 --> 00:24:04,181 - Miss Uhura, your last subspace log 455 00:24:04,224 --> 00:24:06,227 contained an error in the frequencies column. 456 00:24:06,836 --> 00:24:08,708 - Mr. Spock, sometimes I think 457 00:24:08,750 --> 00:24:12,145 if I hear that word "frequency" once more, I'll cry. 458 00:24:12,538 --> 00:24:15,758 - The unfortunate part of it is that her role 459 00:24:15,801 --> 00:24:19,240 seems to have been diminished because she was a black woman, 460 00:24:19,282 --> 00:24:22,852 and that character was viewed as perhaps more expendable 461 00:24:23,287 --> 00:24:24,810 than the other characters. 462 00:24:25,201 --> 00:24:27,856 - I told them they were doing that. 463 00:24:28,291 --> 00:24:31,470 And they said, "Oh no, this has nothing to do with you." 464 00:24:31,686 --> 00:24:33,166 And I said, "You're not me. 465 00:24:35,734 --> 00:24:37,911 It has everything to do with me." 466 00:24:38,606 --> 00:24:40,653 - She was told that she was gonna be 467 00:24:40,695 --> 00:24:43,220 more significant to this show than she was, you know. 468 00:24:43,263 --> 00:24:46,267 We were the movable furniture to a great degree. 469 00:24:46,309 --> 00:24:49,182 - She's the chief communications officer 470 00:24:49,704 --> 00:24:51,490 and she can't talk? 471 00:24:52,272 --> 00:24:53,491 What good is she? 472 00:24:55,102 --> 00:24:57,973 And I said, "That's what they wanna do with the character, 473 00:24:58,018 --> 00:24:59,279 I want out." 474 00:24:59,323 --> 00:25:00,499 I didn't have all this 475 00:25:00,541 --> 00:25:04,327 wonderful thought process going before. 476 00:25:04,372 --> 00:25:05,678 I got a job. 477 00:25:06,679 --> 00:25:10,769 I was an actress, got a job, right on, you know. 478 00:25:10,813 --> 00:25:13,729 I thought my career would be in musical theater 479 00:25:14,337 --> 00:25:16,644 until Star Trek interrupted my career. 480 00:25:17,645 --> 00:25:19,256 And that's the way I looked at it. 481 00:25:20,300 --> 00:25:22,868 And I'll have other opportunities 482 00:25:22,912 --> 00:25:25,653 to grow in--in--with my talents, 483 00:25:25,698 --> 00:25:27,263 you know, of singing and dancing. 484 00:25:27,307 --> 00:25:28,614 And I'll go to Broadway, 485 00:25:28,656 --> 00:25:30,833 and I'll do big pictures and that kind of thing. 486 00:25:30,876 --> 00:25:33,227 Well, a funny thing happened on the way there. 487 00:25:33,705 --> 00:25:37,665 - [Dawson] An NAACP event that was being held, 488 00:25:39,363 --> 00:25:42,018 organizers of the event were trying to get her 489 00:25:42,061 --> 00:25:44,846 to meet this fan, and she said, "Wait a minute. 490 00:25:44,891 --> 00:25:46,893 I don't wanna meet fans right this minute." 491 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,677 - This person came up to me 492 00:25:51,332 --> 00:25:54,552 and said he needed to talk to me. 493 00:25:54,943 --> 00:25:56,684 [clears throat] And I said, "I'm sorry," 494 00:25:56,729 --> 00:25:59,209 and I turned around and I was looking in the face 495 00:25:59,252 --> 00:26:00,819 of Dr. Martin Luther King. 496 00:26:01,820 --> 00:26:02,909 [laughs] 497 00:26:03,299 --> 00:26:05,040 - And what's typical about Nichelle 498 00:26:05,085 --> 00:26:08,261 when she meets celebrities of all types, 499 00:26:08,305 --> 00:26:14,268 um, they want to tell her about how she affected their life. 500 00:26:14,921 --> 00:26:18,837 Dr. King was telling her Star Trekis the only show 501 00:26:19,098 --> 00:26:20,709 that he lets his children watch. 502 00:26:21,101 --> 00:26:23,058 - It was always a wonderful experience because 503 00:26:23,103 --> 00:26:24,973 Dad did not have a lot of time 504 00:26:25,845 --> 00:26:30,588 to actually watch anything with us because he was so engaged 505 00:26:30,980 --> 00:26:35,332 in civil and human rights campaigns and the struggle. 506 00:26:35,375 --> 00:26:38,030 But I guess, in retrospect, it was important to him, 507 00:26:38,074 --> 00:26:39,771 but it certainly was important to us 508 00:26:39,815 --> 00:26:41,337 to have time with our dad. 509 00:26:42,122 --> 00:26:43,644 - She then says to him, 510 00:26:43,689 --> 00:26:45,429 "Well, I'm so glad you feel this way." 511 00:26:45,472 --> 00:26:48,301 And you know, "I'll be going off into another career move." 512 00:26:48,867 --> 00:26:50,042 And he's stunned. 513 00:26:50,086 --> 00:26:51,392 He says, "What do you mean?" 514 00:26:52,435 --> 00:26:53,612 She said, "Well, I just turned in my resignation." 515 00:26:54,134 --> 00:26:55,395 Dr. King says, "No, you can't. 516 00:26:55,439 --> 00:26:56,701 You can't leave." 517 00:26:58,268 --> 00:26:59,791 - And my first thought was, "What are you talkin' 'bout, 518 00:26:59,835 --> 00:27:02,969 Dr. Martin Luther?" [laughs] 519 00:27:03,011 --> 00:27:05,753 He's gonna tell me how to run my life now. 520 00:27:06,145 --> 00:27:07,843 - She says, "Well, the work I'm doing 521 00:27:07,886 --> 00:27:10,715 is I'm just delivering a line or two in each show. 522 00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:14,675 I'm really not using my craft to any great extent." 523 00:27:15,023 --> 00:27:17,069 - He said, "You don't understand 524 00:27:17,113 --> 00:27:20,769 the effect that you are having, not only on black people, 525 00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:24,076 not only on young women, but on everybody. 526 00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:29,821 Everybody's mind and attitude is changed immeasurably 527 00:27:29,865 --> 00:27:31,779 simply because you are there." 528 00:27:32,346 --> 00:27:34,782 - Lieutenant Uhura was the most important person on the bridge 529 00:27:35,348 --> 00:27:37,046 because she was the only one who could say-- 530 00:27:37,089 --> 00:27:38,743 - Captain. 531 00:27:38,787 --> 00:27:40,180 - ...and everybody would stop what they were doing 532 00:27:40,222 --> 00:27:41,702 and turn around to hear what she was gonna say next. 533 00:27:42,790 --> 00:27:44,444 - But also because she appealed to us 534 00:27:44,488 --> 00:27:47,970 by making us understand that we were going to be present 535 00:27:48,013 --> 00:27:51,017 in whatever future was being imagined. 536 00:27:51,191 --> 00:27:52,932 - I was a little boy at that time, 537 00:27:53,453 --> 00:27:56,065 and it was at a time where, 538 00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:57,500 my mother was from the South. 539 00:27:57,545 --> 00:27:58,807 I was from the North. 540 00:28:00,374 --> 00:28:02,375 They could just barely get to the front of the bus then. 541 00:28:02,768 --> 00:28:04,421 And that's what Dr. King was saying 542 00:28:04,813 --> 00:28:07,381 because he could see where it was going. 543 00:28:07,423 --> 00:28:10,165 - "You're looked up to, and you're a role model, 544 00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:12,385 and people aspire to be you, 545 00:28:12,820 --> 00:28:15,388 that person that they see on television. 546 00:28:15,432 --> 00:28:17,695 So don't leave, don't go away. 547 00:28:17,957 --> 00:28:19,393 You stay right where you are." 548 00:28:19,785 --> 00:28:21,481 He was a man of such wisdom. 549 00:28:21,525 --> 00:28:23,701 And when he made a statement like that, 550 00:28:24,093 --> 00:28:25,964 he had a good reason for doing it. 551 00:28:26,487 --> 00:28:27,836 - And it's the first time 552 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,971 that I really talked to anyone important 553 00:28:32,536 --> 00:28:34,712 about what was going on. 554 00:28:35,104 --> 00:28:37,932 It was equally as important 555 00:28:37,977 --> 00:28:40,413 as anything I could possibly have done. 556 00:28:41,807 --> 00:28:44,983 So I stayed, and I never regretted it. 557 00:28:46,115 --> 00:28:47,421 Uhura and I... 558 00:28:48,814 --> 00:28:49,989 became friends. 559 00:28:51,772 --> 00:28:55,994 It was the character that I had the blessing to create 560 00:28:56,865 --> 00:28:57,997 and never failed me. 561 00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:00,564 [doors whirring] 562 00:29:00,607 --> 00:29:01,782 [electronics beeping] 563 00:29:03,567 --> 00:29:05,874 And the show only went two more seasons, 564 00:29:07,093 --> 00:29:08,442 and then we were gone. 565 00:29:10,182 --> 00:29:13,534 In show business, everything ends sooner or later, 566 00:29:13,576 --> 00:29:16,231 you learn to say goodbye and look to the future. 567 00:29:17,016 --> 00:29:20,148 After all, you never know what's around the corner. 568 00:29:26,025 --> 00:29:29,157 - [Miles] How did they sort of notify you of 569 00:29:29,636 --> 00:29:31,856 your introduction to NASA? Did-- 570 00:29:32,596 --> 00:29:37,165 - Well, again, Star Trek had a little bit to do with that. 571 00:29:37,557 --> 00:29:42,824 The--the response to it going off the air 572 00:29:42,867 --> 00:29:44,042 was unbelievable. 573 00:29:44,086 --> 00:29:45,479 - Rumors that it was going off the air 574 00:29:45,521 --> 00:29:47,828 brought more than one million letters 575 00:29:47,873 --> 00:29:50,266 of outraged fan mail to NBC. 576 00:29:50,309 --> 00:29:52,877 - [Reporter] The universe it created was self-consistent, 577 00:29:53,182 --> 00:29:57,143 imaginative, and makes its viewers long to be part of it, 578 00:29:57,185 --> 00:29:59,144 and they didn't want to see it come to an end. 579 00:30:00,667 --> 00:30:02,191 [crowd cheering] 580 00:30:02,234 --> 00:30:03,584 ? 581 00:30:05,891 --> 00:30:09,851 - Some of the most incredible people on the planet 582 00:30:09,894 --> 00:30:11,592 are Star Trek fans. 583 00:30:11,634 --> 00:30:14,073 [crowd cheers] 584 00:30:14,115 --> 00:30:17,467 Fans started holding Star Trek conventions. 585 00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:19,948 - Oh, I am a Denebian slime devil. 586 00:30:19,991 --> 00:30:22,994 - I'm Ambassador X from Ecosystem Four. 587 00:30:23,038 --> 00:30:26,172 - I think it's the extreme logic of the characters. 588 00:30:26,650 --> 00:30:28,521 - I was one of the fans waiting in line 589 00:30:29,174 --> 00:30:31,654 for an autograph or a photo or something. 590 00:30:31,699 --> 00:30:34,222 If you were a science and a science fiction geek 591 00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:37,574 and Star Trekperson, this was where you wanted to be. 592 00:30:37,617 --> 00:30:40,534 - It's just the happiest day of my entire life. 593 00:30:40,576 --> 00:30:42,578 Like, it's just so beautiful. 594 00:30:42,623 --> 00:30:44,103 [sobbing] I can't help it. 595 00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:50,065 - [Nichols] But in '75, I was invited to go to Chicago 596 00:30:50,108 --> 00:30:52,153 to what turned out to be 597 00:30:52,198 --> 00:30:54,634 the largest Star Trek convention ever. 598 00:30:54,677 --> 00:30:57,855 - By the '75 convention, it was a full-fledged movement. 599 00:30:58,073 --> 00:31:02,685 - It was also the first time that NASA had seen fit 600 00:31:02,730 --> 00:31:05,166 to allow one of their scientists 601 00:31:05,211 --> 00:31:07,038 to come as a speaker. 602 00:31:07,082 --> 00:31:09,563 The day before the convention was to begin, 603 00:31:09,605 --> 00:31:11,346 we held a press conference. 604 00:31:12,044 --> 00:31:13,609 I noticed a tall, handsome, 605 00:31:13,653 --> 00:31:15,655 white-haired gentleman on our panel. 606 00:31:16,134 --> 00:31:18,920 I discovered he was Dr. Jesco von Puttkamer, 607 00:31:18,963 --> 00:31:20,878 NASA's Director of Science. 608 00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:24,925 And the press asks this scientist, 609 00:31:25,665 --> 00:31:29,887 "Dr. von Puttkamer, I mean, this is fantasy. 610 00:31:30,410 --> 00:31:32,891 What's a man of your stature doing here?" 611 00:31:33,413 --> 00:31:37,155 So Dr. von Puttkamer said, and he's this tall man 612 00:31:37,199 --> 00:31:41,028 with a shock of white hair and mustache, you know, 613 00:31:41,073 --> 00:31:43,944 and he looks down the way and he says, 614 00:31:44,292 --> 00:31:46,904 "Well, I tell you, 615 00:31:48,166 --> 00:31:52,345 aside from the dream that Gene Roddenberry had 616 00:31:52,998 --> 00:31:56,174 that put all humankind in the future, 617 00:31:56,609 --> 00:32:00,919 I came for something more important than that." 618 00:32:01,135 --> 00:32:04,965 He said, "I came because I had to find out 619 00:32:05,444 --> 00:32:09,230 if Lieutenant Uhura had the most beautiful legs 620 00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:11,190 that I think she has on the screen." 621 00:32:11,625 --> 00:32:16,325 And of course, the press sat there and looked at him. 622 00:32:16,368 --> 00:32:19,588 And we all on the panel are going, "What did he say?" 623 00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:22,156 I said, "What did he say about Uhura?" [laughs] 624 00:32:24,724 --> 00:32:26,596 And I was cinched. 625 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,729 I said, "I've got to meet that person." 626 00:32:28,771 --> 00:32:33,690 - Jesco von Puttkamer was a charismatic advocate 627 00:32:33,733 --> 00:32:36,388 for space flight and a wonderful voice 628 00:32:36,432 --> 00:32:38,739 for what NASA was doing. 629 00:32:38,781 --> 00:32:42,176 - When he and Nichelle first got together, 630 00:32:42,742 --> 00:32:45,136 uh, I think that was a kind of a natural partnership, 631 00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:46,660 a mentorship and a partnership. 632 00:32:47,703 --> 00:32:48,356 - [Nichols] I sat through 633 00:32:49,663 --> 00:32:50,316 Dr. von Puttkamer's presentation 634 00:32:50,358 --> 00:32:51,664 in utter awe. 635 00:32:52,796 --> 00:32:54,972 ? 636 00:32:56,191 --> 00:33:00,152 I saw all of this wondrousness. 637 00:33:01,805 --> 00:33:04,286 ? 638 00:33:15,689 --> 00:33:19,692 I remember something happening back then saying 639 00:33:21,173 --> 00:33:22,782 humankind stepped on the moon. 640 00:33:26,829 --> 00:33:30,095 It wasn't just Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin. 641 00:33:30,398 --> 00:33:31,400 I stepped on the moon. 642 00:33:34,750 --> 00:33:40,192 And I sat there thrilled and impressed 643 00:33:41,236 --> 00:33:43,717 as I watched the presentation 644 00:33:44,413 --> 00:33:48,155 of where we had gone as human beings. 645 00:33:50,244 --> 00:33:51,420 And I didn't see me. 646 00:33:54,380 --> 00:33:58,731 And out of that awe and out of that thrill 647 00:33:59,298 --> 00:34:05,042 came a feeling of disenfranchisement. 648 00:34:06,913 --> 00:34:11,309 I did not see myself in the present space program. 649 00:34:12,398 --> 00:34:15,182 I didn't see myself as a black, 650 00:34:15,748 --> 00:34:17,402 and I didn't see myself as a woman. 651 00:34:18,447 --> 00:34:23,061 Here I was involved in projecting a future 652 00:34:23,409 --> 00:34:29,414 of what our space program, could--where it could take us. 653 00:34:29,458 --> 00:34:32,460 And I wanted to be there, not in fantasy, 654 00:34:33,896 --> 00:34:38,076 not 300 years from today, but now. 655 00:34:38,423 --> 00:34:40,817 - Oh, I dreamed of becoming an astronaut, 656 00:34:40,860 --> 00:34:43,516 but NASA said that women weren't being considered 657 00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:44,255 for the job. 658 00:34:45,518 --> 00:34:47,085 - The Russians already had women in space. 659 00:34:47,346 --> 00:34:49,478 When is America gonna put a woman in space? 660 00:34:49,521 --> 00:34:51,523 When is American gonna put a black person in space? 661 00:34:51,914 --> 00:34:53,177 - The argument was made 662 00:34:54,788 --> 00:34:57,181 uh, by the National Institute of Sciences and in the mid-'70s 663 00:34:57,224 --> 00:34:58,835 that there were no qualified black people. 664 00:34:58,878 --> 00:35:00,358 - I resented that 665 00:35:01,228 --> 00:35:04,318 and decided I was gonna do something about it. 666 00:35:04,927 --> 00:35:06,494 I started writing about it, 667 00:35:06,929 --> 00:35:08,541 and they got printed in Ebony, 668 00:35:08,583 --> 00:35:12,806 and they got printed in various magazines and newspapers. 669 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:17,463 And suddenly media, the press wanted to interview me 670 00:35:17,505 --> 00:35:20,291 because as you have probably noticed, 671 00:35:20,335 --> 00:35:23,121 I have a lot to say. [laughs] 672 00:35:23,643 --> 00:35:27,864 In early 1977, I was appointed to the board of directors 673 00:35:27,907 --> 00:35:29,518 of the National Space Institute. 674 00:35:30,257 --> 00:35:33,434 That January, I gave a speech before NSI's 675 00:35:33,478 --> 00:35:35,829 annual joint board council meeting. 676 00:35:36,525 --> 00:35:40,485 I was talking before two or 3,000 people it felt like, 677 00:35:40,528 --> 00:35:43,489 but it was a huge audience. 678 00:35:43,532 --> 00:35:44,880 - She looked out in the audience 679 00:35:44,925 --> 00:35:46,492 and there were very few women 680 00:35:46,534 --> 00:35:49,146 and probably no people of color. 681 00:35:49,494 --> 00:35:50,931 - There were scientists there. 682 00:35:50,974 --> 00:35:53,237 There were NASA officials there. 683 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,545 And the call went out. 684 00:35:57,023 --> 00:35:58,286 - [Nichols] I challenged everyone 685 00:35:58,329 --> 00:35:59,940 to answer the question, 686 00:35:59,983 --> 00:36:02,289 space, what's in it for me? 687 00:36:02,333 --> 00:36:05,554 And I was not talking about becoming an astronaut. 688 00:36:05,597 --> 00:36:09,471 I was talking about if those guys are doing it, 689 00:36:10,951 --> 00:36:12,300 then we're supposed to be there. 690 00:36:12,344 --> 00:36:13,561 Then where are we? 691 00:36:14,346 --> 00:36:17,478 - And she's saying, "Where are my people?" 692 00:36:17,871 --> 00:36:19,438 - Where are my people? 693 00:36:21,918 --> 00:36:24,572 And I meant that then, and I mean it now. 694 00:36:29,969 --> 00:36:30,884 - [Dr. Joels] That was the spark 695 00:36:30,927 --> 00:36:32,364 that caused NASA to say, 696 00:36:32,407 --> 00:36:34,452 "Okay, you've got a good point. 697 00:36:34,496 --> 00:36:35,541 How do we go about this?" 698 00:36:37,106 --> 00:36:39,936 - Well, coming out of that, I was invited to Washington 699 00:36:39,980 --> 00:36:43,461 to meet the administrator of NASA. 700 00:36:43,505 --> 00:36:45,898 He said, "We were in the audience, listening to you. 701 00:36:45,942 --> 00:36:47,378 So was the director." 702 00:36:48,293 --> 00:36:50,295 Suddenly, I'm at NASA headquarters, 703 00:36:50,338 --> 00:36:52,557 and I'm seeing women 704 00:36:54,342 --> 00:36:58,302 and men in every level, 705 00:36:58,563 --> 00:37:01,958 from administration and management. 706 00:37:03,003 --> 00:37:03,960 I was fascinated. 707 00:37:05,483 --> 00:37:07,920 And I said to them, "Why doesn't your public know this?" 708 00:37:08,922 --> 00:37:11,489 - NASA was in a huge period of transition. 709 00:37:11,925 --> 00:37:13,273 - [Narrator] As the last Apollo crew 710 00:37:13,318 --> 00:37:14,231 worked on the moon, 711 00:37:14,492 --> 00:37:15,797 the engineers on earth 712 00:37:15,842 --> 00:37:18,018 prepared for tomorrow's day in space. 713 00:37:18,061 --> 00:37:20,367 - [Dr. Joels] They had already done the Skylab missions. 714 00:37:20,628 --> 00:37:23,023 Apollo-Soyuz flew in 1975, 715 00:37:23,065 --> 00:37:24,981 and then the Apollo mission was over. 716 00:37:25,025 --> 00:37:30,248 The country was engaged in a lot of economic dislocation. 717 00:37:32,380 --> 00:37:35,295 You had a lot of people that were downsized 718 00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:36,644 after the Apollo program. 719 00:37:36,688 --> 00:37:38,429 Now, they were entering the shuttle era 720 00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:40,606 and we need talent. 721 00:37:41,606 --> 00:37:44,523 - I have a model here of the space shuttle. 722 00:37:44,565 --> 00:37:45,740 - [Dr. Weitekamp] In the 1970s, 723 00:37:45,784 --> 00:37:47,568 NASA needed to recruit 724 00:37:47,612 --> 00:37:50,311 a new class of astronauts for the space shuttle program, 725 00:37:50,355 --> 00:37:52,356 and this would be a very different class 726 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,576 than had been previously recruited. 727 00:37:54,619 --> 00:37:57,056 - The Astronaut Corps was really kind of the all boys club. 728 00:37:57,099 --> 00:37:59,407 It was all white, Anglo Saxon male. 729 00:37:59,451 --> 00:38:01,278 They all have come out of test pilot school. 730 00:38:02,367 --> 00:38:03,411 - [Dr. Weitekamp] For the shuttle program, 731 00:38:03,454 --> 00:38:04,672 this was a new vehicle 732 00:38:04,717 --> 00:38:06,458 that allowed new kinds of work, 733 00:38:06,501 --> 00:38:08,416 which meant that they wanted not only pilot astronauts 734 00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:09,722 but mission specialists, 735 00:38:09,764 --> 00:38:12,027 people with PhDs, medical degrees, 736 00:38:12,072 --> 00:38:14,117 researchers who would be doing the experiments 737 00:38:14,161 --> 00:38:14,987 on the vehicle. 738 00:38:16,206 --> 00:38:17,556 And NASA, when they started looking into 739 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,079 the application pile, 740 00:38:19,121 --> 00:38:21,342 realized that they were dealing with a legacy 741 00:38:21,385 --> 00:38:23,083 of historic discrimination. 742 00:38:23,126 --> 00:38:26,478 - They were not getting the response that they wanted. 743 00:38:26,695 --> 00:38:29,655 And they said this was already eight months underway 744 00:38:29,697 --> 00:38:31,351 and they only had four more months. 745 00:38:31,396 --> 00:38:34,094 And they said, "We're not going to have any black people. 746 00:38:34,137 --> 00:38:35,443 We're not gonna have any women 747 00:38:36,182 --> 00:38:37,663 because no one's responding. 748 00:38:38,489 --> 00:38:39,534 Why?" 749 00:38:39,577 --> 00:38:41,318 And I said, "We don't believe you." 750 00:38:42,581 --> 00:38:45,626 - [Lewis] During the '60s, to be able to ride 751 00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:50,458 and take a seat on a-- on a bus, any place on a bus, 752 00:38:52,155 --> 00:38:56,028 we would be beaten, arrested, and jailed. 753 00:38:56,507 --> 00:38:58,552 [indistinct shouting] 754 00:38:58,597 --> 00:39:00,032 - [Capt. Scott] I could remember days of-- 755 00:39:00,076 --> 00:39:02,034 of blatant racism. 756 00:39:02,427 --> 00:39:05,733 And going into the drugstore one day 757 00:39:05,777 --> 00:39:08,128 and buying an ice cream cone and a comic book, 758 00:39:08,867 --> 00:39:11,391 and a lady came out from behind the counter and said, 759 00:39:11,436 --> 00:39:12,393 "You can't sit here. 760 00:39:12,436 --> 00:39:13,351 You have to get up and leave." 761 00:39:15,090 --> 00:39:16,527 I remember just turning around to walk out of the store 762 00:39:16,744 --> 00:39:19,530 and she yelled at me, "That's the best thing you can do. 763 00:39:19,574 --> 00:39:20,487 Just get outta here!" 764 00:39:22,184 --> 00:39:23,795 - [Maj. Bolden] Walking into the Naval Academy, 765 00:39:23,838 --> 00:39:26,798 a place where I had wanted so badly to go from seventh grade 766 00:39:26,842 --> 00:39:28,757 when I first saw the program Men of Annapolis 767 00:39:29,235 --> 00:39:31,150 and getting in there in Plebe Summer, calling home, 768 00:39:31,193 --> 00:39:33,065 crying to my mom and dad saying, "I made a bi-- 769 00:39:33,108 --> 00:39:35,155 I made a big mistake. I wanna come home." 770 00:39:35,590 --> 00:39:37,679 And my--they would ask me, they said, 771 00:39:37,722 --> 00:39:39,072 "But you've always wanted to go there." 772 00:39:39,114 --> 00:39:40,768 I said, "Yeah, but they don't want me here. 773 00:39:41,596 --> 00:39:42,641 And I don't wanna be here." 774 00:39:43,902 --> 00:39:45,077 Those are the kinds of things that I remember. 775 00:39:46,688 --> 00:39:48,081 - [Funk] I applied to NASA four different times 776 00:39:48,123 --> 00:39:49,561 to be turned down four different times 777 00:39:49,603 --> 00:39:53,739 because NASA reorganized their nomenclature, so to speak, 778 00:39:53,782 --> 00:39:56,175 that you had to have jet test pilot time. 779 00:39:56,219 --> 00:39:58,657 This was impossible for a girl to have in those days. 780 00:39:59,179 --> 00:40:01,746 Now, let's go back to the men, the Mercury. 781 00:40:02,487 --> 00:40:06,490 There were 159 men selected from the armed services 782 00:40:06,534 --> 00:40:08,143 to go through these tests at Lovelace. 783 00:40:09,231 --> 00:40:10,494 How many passed? 784 00:40:10,538 --> 00:40:11,409 Seven. 785 00:40:12,670 --> 00:40:16,762 25 women were selected and how many passed? 786 00:40:17,545 --> 00:40:18,110 Thirteen. 787 00:40:19,503 --> 00:40:22,681 We could have done it if they would just let us. 788 00:40:23,681 --> 00:40:27,815 - They said, "How can we get people to apply? 789 00:40:28,164 --> 00:40:30,123 How can we correct that?" 790 00:40:30,775 --> 00:40:35,563 And I said, "I think you need to get someone immediately 791 00:40:36,215 --> 00:40:40,132 with credibility and high visibility 792 00:40:40,175 --> 00:40:42,657 whom they would believe when they speak. 793 00:40:42,701 --> 00:40:45,704 They know that they would not talk to them 794 00:40:45,746 --> 00:40:47,574 if NASA was not serious." 795 00:40:48,315 --> 00:40:48,923 And NASA said, 796 00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:52,144 "How about Lieutenant Uhura?" 797 00:40:52,188 --> 00:40:53,929 ? 798 00:40:54,842 --> 00:40:57,846 And I just laughed because I said, 799 00:40:58,543 --> 00:41:01,240 "No, no, people might think it's a gimmick." 800 00:41:01,284 --> 00:41:03,851 Oh, I said, "Don't, not me. 801 00:41:03,896 --> 00:41:05,244 They'll laugh at you." 802 00:41:06,855 --> 00:41:09,248 And they said, "Not if they hear you speak five minutes." 803 00:41:10,293 --> 00:41:12,512 - One of the things that Nichelle was very keen on 804 00:41:12,556 --> 00:41:14,472 is she did not want to be seen 805 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:19,172 as like an assistant or a mascot of NASA. 806 00:41:19,215 --> 00:41:21,260 She didn't want NASA people around her 807 00:41:21,304 --> 00:41:23,175 when she was out there recruiting. 808 00:41:23,568 --> 00:41:27,876 - I cannot have a NASA representative taking me around 809 00:41:28,311 --> 00:41:32,532 and...and propping me up with a prepared speech. 810 00:41:32,577 --> 00:41:33,621 I won't do that. 811 00:41:34,012 --> 00:41:36,929 And I said, "I will accept it, 812 00:41:36,972 --> 00:41:40,541 but I'll do it under my company, Women in Motion, 813 00:41:41,193 --> 00:41:42,108 and I'll be your PI." 814 00:41:43,369 --> 00:41:47,199 Women in Motion was a company that I began 815 00:41:47,242 --> 00:41:50,202 when I wanted to make a difference. 816 00:41:50,594 --> 00:41:56,251 - It became the vehicle for this--this NASA contract. 817 00:41:56,295 --> 00:41:57,514 - And I said, 818 00:41:59,081 --> 00:42:01,213 "I will bring you so many qualified people, 819 00:42:01,822 --> 00:42:03,302 you will have no choice. 820 00:42:03,346 --> 00:42:05,652 And if I have done my work 821 00:42:05,914 --> 00:42:09,309 and it's still an all-white male Astronaut Corps, 822 00:42:10,353 --> 00:42:12,572 I will be your worst nightmare 823 00:42:12,617 --> 00:42:17,230 because I will file a class action lawsuit against you. 824 00:42:17,925 --> 00:42:21,713 I will go and...and speak before Congress 825 00:42:21,755 --> 00:42:25,280 and I will expose what... what I have done." 826 00:42:25,804 --> 00:42:28,675 And Dr. Fletcher gave me his hand 827 00:42:29,938 --> 00:42:31,896 and he said, "And I'll go with you." 828 00:42:32,724 --> 00:42:34,246 And John Yardley said, 829 00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:35,943 "And so shall I." 830 00:42:36,422 --> 00:42:38,686 ? 831 00:42:39,686 --> 00:42:42,864 And on that basis, I, for the next four months, 832 00:42:42,907 --> 00:42:44,822 'cause we only had four months left, 833 00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:50,697 I completely stopped my career, canceled all engagements 834 00:42:51,393 --> 00:42:55,050 and set up a grueling schedule. 835 00:42:59,402 --> 00:43:02,884 - [Dawson] There was a good old boy attitude within NASA 836 00:43:02,927 --> 00:43:06,322 that we know what's best, and we'll--we'll do the hiring, 837 00:43:06,365 --> 00:43:07,280 thank you very much. 838 00:43:08,802 --> 00:43:10,065 - Some of them shared with me the fact that, you know, 839 00:43:10,108 --> 00:43:11,980 when this Hollywood star walked in, 840 00:43:12,023 --> 00:43:14,373 they really were not inclined to initially take it seriously 841 00:43:14,416 --> 00:43:15,983 until they started talkingr. 842 00:43:16,331 --> 00:43:20,074 - I needed some astronaut training 843 00:43:20,422 --> 00:43:25,297 to know what I was talking about to astronauts, you know. 844 00:43:25,777 --> 00:43:29,302 And when I said that first to them, 845 00:43:29,344 --> 00:43:31,956 they kind of went like... [chuckles] 846 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,436 ? 847 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,003 Astronaut Alan Bean has agreed to show me 848 00:43:36,438 --> 00:43:38,659 some of the training and evaluation 849 00:43:38,702 --> 00:43:41,313 that new astronaut candidates will be undergoing. 850 00:43:41,706 --> 00:43:43,838 ? 851 00:43:50,365 --> 00:43:50,931 [laughs] 852 00:43:54,806 --> 00:43:56,329 - Why don't you take the commander's seat over there. 853 00:43:56,371 --> 00:43:57,329 - All right. -You can handle it. 854 00:43:58,460 --> 00:44:00,420 I get to be a captain at last. [laughs] 855 00:44:06,469 --> 00:44:08,688 - [Dawson] She was able to land 856 00:44:08,733 --> 00:44:11,648 this space shuttle orbiter simulator. 857 00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:13,780 Later on, I asked, "How did you do that?" 858 00:44:13,824 --> 00:44:16,653 "Oh, you know, it wasn't me. 859 00:44:16,914 --> 00:44:19,394 It was Uhura that did it." [chuckles] 860 00:44:19,438 --> 00:44:21,789 ? 861 00:44:39,458 --> 00:44:40,460 - [Nichols] The credibility, of course, 862 00:44:40,503 --> 00:44:41,940 in minority community 863 00:44:42,157 --> 00:44:43,376 has been very low. 864 00:44:44,898 --> 00:44:46,422 Uh, I'm sure that they-- - The--our--NASA's credibility? 865 00:44:46,465 --> 00:44:47,728 - NASA's credibility. 866 00:44:47,771 --> 00:44:48,815 How do you feel about-- 867 00:44:48,860 --> 00:44:49,947 - Well, first, I'm kinda-- 868 00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:51,731 - A woman coming on board. 869 00:44:51,775 --> 00:44:53,516 - I think that's a good idea. - [laughs] 870 00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:57,041 - But I think if they think they got any kind of chance, 871 00:44:57,085 --> 00:44:58,739 you know, they should apply, definitely. 872 00:44:58,782 --> 00:44:59,391 - [Nichols] I think the problem is that 873 00:45:00,827 --> 00:45:02,090 most people just don't think it means them this time. 874 00:45:02,134 --> 00:45:03,396 - It does mean them. 875 00:45:03,831 --> 00:45:06,442 - Once she got NASA to accept the fact 876 00:45:06,485 --> 00:45:08,052 that they needed to have people of color, 877 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,184 she faced the battle of going out and convincing 878 00:45:10,228 --> 00:45:12,840 qualified young men and women of color 879 00:45:12,884 --> 00:45:16,148 that--that they would find a place, a welcome place, 880 00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:17,496 if they chose to apply. 881 00:45:18,106 --> 00:45:20,717 ? 882 00:45:21,980 --> 00:45:25,722 - I went to every university that I could get to. 883 00:45:26,114 --> 00:45:30,161 I went to every woman's organization, 884 00:45:30,815 --> 00:45:33,860 every professional science organization, 885 00:45:33,905 --> 00:45:36,907 organization of black engineers and scientists. 886 00:45:36,951 --> 00:45:38,518 I went to LULAC. 887 00:45:38,561 --> 00:45:40,519 I went to the Asian community. 888 00:45:40,563 --> 00:45:42,782 I went to the Spanish-American community. 889 00:45:42,827 --> 00:45:44,436 I went to the black community. 890 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,047 I went to the Organization of Black Pilots. 891 00:45:47,092 --> 00:45:51,400 And fortunately, many of these people 892 00:45:51,443 --> 00:45:55,143 were having their annual conventions at that time, 893 00:45:55,186 --> 00:45:59,103 and many had admitted that they allowed me to come 894 00:45:59,146 --> 00:46:00,452 because I was Uhura, 895 00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:06,023 but they finished up because I was Nichelle Nichols 896 00:46:06,067 --> 00:46:07,938 speaking for our space program. 897 00:46:08,983 --> 00:46:12,465 ? Show me, I say 898 00:46:13,161 --> 00:46:14,554 - I think that's the perseverance 899 00:46:14,597 --> 00:46:16,599 that Nichelle showed in going around, 900 00:46:16,643 --> 00:46:18,471 being willing to go into the deep South 901 00:46:18,514 --> 00:46:19,166 and try to recruit. 902 00:46:20,646 --> 00:46:25,478 - I went to a university where they were livid with me. 903 00:46:25,521 --> 00:46:28,786 They wanted to hurt me, and they told me that. 904 00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:31,789 And I said, "That's fine." 905 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,791 I said, "Let's stay civil. 906 00:46:36,663 --> 00:46:38,490 But I'm not here to convince you. 907 00:46:39,143 --> 00:46:42,929 I'm here to find that one person who'll take a chance." 908 00:46:43,235 --> 00:46:46,150 Many of them said, "NASA is using you, Ms. Nichols." 909 00:46:46,891 --> 00:46:48,806 And I said, "I know, and I'm using them. 910 00:46:49,936 --> 00:46:51,199 Now, I'm gonna use you." 911 00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:54,202 - Nichelle's personal mission 912 00:46:55,202 --> 00:46:58,206 uh, was to help these people understand 913 00:46:58,902 --> 00:47:00,295 that NASA needed them. 914 00:47:02,166 --> 00:47:04,211 ? 915 00:47:04,255 --> 00:47:06,300 - Hello, this is Nichelle Nichols. 916 00:47:06,344 --> 00:47:10,871 NASA needs astronaut pilots and mission specialists 917 00:47:10,914 --> 00:47:12,916 for the space shuttle that becomes operational 918 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,135 in the 1980s. 919 00:47:14,657 --> 00:47:17,007 These people wrote me and said 920 00:47:17,050 --> 00:47:21,054 they would have never thought they qualified 921 00:47:21,664 --> 00:47:25,842 until they heard me speak or saw me on television. 922 00:47:26,103 --> 00:47:31,500 In every city that I visited, we contacted the media. 923 00:47:31,543 --> 00:47:34,025 I went on tel-- on every talk show. 924 00:47:34,068 --> 00:47:37,898 Then I'd might go on and they'd wanna talk about my career, 925 00:47:37,942 --> 00:47:40,117 and I said, "Thank you so much 926 00:47:40,161 --> 00:47:42,554 because my career is so important to me. 927 00:47:42,947 --> 00:47:45,905 It has taken an incredible turn." 928 00:47:45,949 --> 00:47:47,559 "Oh, what are you doing now?" 929 00:47:48,213 --> 00:47:51,650 "I'm helping NASA recruit the first women 930 00:47:51,693 --> 00:47:55,873 and minority astronauts for the space shuttle program." 931 00:47:56,264 --> 00:47:58,048 And they'd go, [laughs] 932 00:47:58,092 --> 00:48:00,659 I said, "No, it's not funny. It's true." 933 00:48:00,702 --> 00:48:03,184 Even the network stations, many of them 934 00:48:03,576 --> 00:48:09,059 played my--my public service announcements in primetime 935 00:48:10,016 --> 00:48:13,019 because they had Uhura, you know. 936 00:48:13,063 --> 00:48:15,588 - Nichelle Nichols came on TV one day, 937 00:48:15,630 --> 00:48:17,894 and I'm just sitting there watching her. 938 00:48:18,155 --> 00:48:20,635 And she was in a blue flight suit. 939 00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:22,637 - Hi, I'm Nichelle Nichols. 940 00:48:23,074 --> 00:48:25,119 - And she pointed at me and she said, 941 00:48:25,163 --> 00:48:29,166 "I want you to join the astronaut program." 942 00:48:29,731 --> 00:48:30,994 - This is your NASA. 943 00:48:31,952 --> 00:48:34,606 - And immediately, I knew she was talking to me. 944 00:48:34,998 --> 00:48:36,956 Other people have claimed she was talking to them. 945 00:48:37,001 --> 00:48:38,916 No, she was talking to me. 946 00:48:39,132 --> 00:48:41,047 - When various men and women 947 00:48:41,266 --> 00:48:44,704 heard me on a--a television talk show 948 00:48:44,746 --> 00:48:47,097 in which I spoke about 949 00:48:49,056 --> 00:48:52,320 the military recruitment and the civilian recruitment, 950 00:48:52,755 --> 00:48:56,672 you see, the military had their own recruitment drive 951 00:48:56,715 --> 00:49:00,240 for NASA and eliminated people 952 00:49:00,284 --> 00:49:03,288 and then gave NASA their selection. 953 00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:06,726 They invited me to the Pentagon 954 00:49:06,768 --> 00:49:08,989 when I first took on the contract 955 00:49:09,032 --> 00:49:10,686 to let me know they didn't want me interfering 956 00:49:10,730 --> 00:49:12,644 with the military recruitment. 957 00:49:12,688 --> 00:49:15,126 They didn't want me out recruiting military, 958 00:49:15,342 --> 00:49:16,344 so I didn't. 959 00:49:16,387 --> 00:49:17,998 - They made it quite clear to her 960 00:49:18,041 --> 00:49:20,260 that they had their ways of picking astronauts 961 00:49:20,304 --> 00:49:23,307 and they wanted her to stay out of their way. 962 00:49:23,655 --> 00:49:25,266 But she found a loophole. 963 00:49:25,309 --> 00:49:27,615 - [Nichols] Just as I was about to leave, I said, 964 00:49:27,659 --> 00:49:30,967 "Oh, if you have your own recruitment 965 00:49:31,228 --> 00:49:32,751 and your own selection, 966 00:49:33,231 --> 00:49:37,670 what about the men and women who aren't selected by you? 967 00:49:39,106 --> 00:49:42,414 Would they be able to apply directly to NASA 968 00:49:42,456 --> 00:49:43,981 as American citizens?" 969 00:49:46,070 --> 00:49:50,074 And they went, "Yes." [laughs] 970 00:49:50,856 --> 00:49:54,338 So everywhere I went, I simply talked about that. 971 00:49:54,860 --> 00:49:57,385 - And Fred kind of pulled an end run and applied 972 00:49:57,429 --> 00:49:59,822 through NASA as a civilian. 973 00:49:59,865 --> 00:50:04,130 - And I got a call from General Tom Stafford. 974 00:50:04,391 --> 00:50:07,090 And I remember his-- the first words he said, 975 00:50:07,134 --> 00:50:09,005 he said, "Who the hell are you?" 976 00:50:09,744 --> 00:50:12,009 And I said, "Well, sir, I'm... [laughs] 977 00:50:13,445 --> 00:50:16,230 I'm Major Fred Gregory." [laughs] 978 00:50:16,273 --> 00:50:18,710 And I mean, I never met the man in life. 979 00:50:19,146 --> 00:50:21,713 He said, "But why did you apply as a civilian?" 980 00:50:21,757 --> 00:50:25,326 I said, "Because if I had been in the Air Force 981 00:50:25,369 --> 00:50:27,067 and I'm in the selection committee, 982 00:50:27,110 --> 00:50:28,721 I probably would not have selected me 983 00:50:28,764 --> 00:50:30,288 because I was an unknown." 984 00:50:30,505 --> 00:50:32,333 He says, "Well, that's all I wanted to know," 985 00:50:32,376 --> 00:50:35,119 and that was the end of the conversation. [laughs] 986 00:50:35,161 --> 00:50:38,425 - [laughs] Fun, huh? [laughs] 987 00:50:39,123 --> 00:50:40,733 - During the recruitment process, 988 00:50:41,298 --> 00:50:43,735 NASA public affairs pulled out all the stops 989 00:50:43,778 --> 00:50:47,739 trying to get Nichelle exposure, and the crown jewel of that 990 00:50:47,782 --> 00:50:49,742 was an appearance on Good Morning America. 991 00:50:50,177 --> 00:50:52,788 ? 992 00:50:53,833 --> 00:50:56,313 - Recently, I had an opportunity to do something 993 00:50:56,356 --> 00:50:58,793 that very few people have-- get the chance to do. 994 00:50:58,838 --> 00:51:00,318 A week or so ago, 995 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,536 I visited the Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center 996 00:51:02,581 --> 00:51:04,061 in Houston, Texas. 997 00:51:04,931 --> 00:51:06,150 And one of the people that I met there 998 00:51:06,193 --> 00:51:07,454 was Nichelle Nichols, 999 00:51:07,498 --> 00:51:09,762 a star of television series, Star Trek. 1000 00:51:10,153 --> 00:51:12,721 Over the last few years, Ms. Nichols has gone 1001 00:51:12,764 --> 00:51:15,768 from science fiction to science fact. 1002 00:51:16,202 --> 00:51:18,117 why did you choose to become involved 1003 00:51:18,161 --> 00:51:19,771 in the NASA space program? 1004 00:51:20,338 --> 00:51:23,471 - Well, Sandy, a couple of years ago, a friend of mine and I 1005 00:51:23,514 --> 00:51:25,559 formed a company called Women in Motion. 1006 00:51:25,603 --> 00:51:27,909 And all of the things that I had talked with them about, 1007 00:51:27,954 --> 00:51:30,869 about the potential, they included 1008 00:51:30,913 --> 00:51:33,916 about why women should apply, 1009 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,092 why minorities should apply. 1010 00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:37,572 I think it's very important 1011 00:51:37,615 --> 00:51:40,574 that at this selection for astronauts status, 1012 00:51:40,619 --> 00:51:43,143 of having a woman astronaut 1013 00:51:43,186 --> 00:51:46,146 and a completely integrated Astronaut Corps. 1014 00:51:46,190 --> 00:51:47,800 The old Star Trek idea, 1015 00:51:47,842 --> 00:51:51,150 I see infinite diversity and infinite combinations. 1016 00:51:51,195 --> 00:51:53,239 - And June 30th is the last day 1017 00:51:53,284 --> 00:51:56,242 for women and other minorities to apply for the program. 1018 00:51:56,503 --> 00:51:58,550 - I was sitting in my office at NASA 1019 00:51:58,592 --> 00:52:00,117 and I got a call from Nichelle 1020 00:52:00,943 --> 00:52:03,250 and she said, "Kerry, I just found out 1021 00:52:03,293 --> 00:52:05,251 we're supposed to do a final report. 1022 00:52:05,556 --> 00:52:08,907 What is a final report?" [chuckles] 1023 00:52:09,387 --> 00:52:10,822 So I said, "When is this due?" 1024 00:52:10,865 --> 00:52:12,824 She said, "In a week." [chuckles] 1025 00:52:13,521 --> 00:52:15,393 I said, "Okay." 1026 00:52:15,436 --> 00:52:17,264 She said, "Can you come and help?" 1027 00:52:17,307 --> 00:52:18,264 I said, "Sure." 1028 00:52:18,657 --> 00:52:19,831 [keys clacking] 1029 00:52:21,528 --> 00:52:23,835 This was an era of typewriters and Xerox machines. 1030 00:52:24,489 --> 00:52:27,447 So we were literally having to type the report 1031 00:52:27,492 --> 00:52:30,494 and take all the photographs and the documents. 1032 00:52:30,538 --> 00:52:31,844 And they weren't in emails 1033 00:52:31,887 --> 00:52:33,411 where you could cut and paste them. 1034 00:52:33,454 --> 00:52:36,543 You actually had to physically Xerox them and stack them. 1035 00:52:36,588 --> 00:52:38,197 It was very labor intensive. 1036 00:52:38,893 --> 00:52:41,548 I could tell that she was driving really, really hard. 1037 00:52:42,376 --> 00:52:44,987 She was doing media constantly. 1038 00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:46,554 She was traveling constantly. 1039 00:52:46,945 --> 00:52:49,556 And she was doing presentations constantly. 1040 00:52:50,036 --> 00:52:52,559 It was an incredible grind. 1041 00:52:52,994 --> 00:52:54,867 I [scoffs] I went to sleep at two in the morning. 1042 00:52:54,909 --> 00:52:56,476 She got me up at five, took me to the airport, 1043 00:52:56,521 --> 00:52:57,956 and I was back at my desk at eight. 1044 00:52:58,436 --> 00:53:00,960 I realized, from a historical perspective, 1045 00:53:01,003 --> 00:53:02,222 this was gonna be important. 1046 00:53:02,266 --> 00:53:03,396 [printer whirring] 1047 00:53:03,918 --> 00:53:05,007 They finished it. 1048 00:53:05,050 --> 00:53:05,704 They got it in. 1049 00:53:07,313 --> 00:53:08,923 I think she didn't know 1050 00:53:08,967 --> 00:53:10,186 how it would turn out at that point. 1051 00:53:14,713 --> 00:53:16,061 - [Dr. Bluford] I was a kid 1052 00:53:16,105 --> 00:53:17,324 out of the inner city of Philadelphia, 1053 00:53:19,152 --> 00:53:22,894 Air Force officer who wanted to be an aerospace engineer. 1054 00:53:25,331 --> 00:53:28,465 January of '78, I was driving to work, 1055 00:53:28,726 --> 00:53:30,076 and I heard on the radio 1056 00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:33,471 that NASA had selected 35 astronauts. 1057 00:53:34,036 --> 00:53:36,996 I was curious at who those people were, you know. 1058 00:53:38,737 --> 00:53:40,041 - [Maj. Gregory] I was a pilot 1059 00:53:40,085 --> 00:53:42,610 and enjoyed flying airplanes a lot. 1060 00:53:42,653 --> 00:53:44,221 And that's the reason I was interested 1061 00:53:44,264 --> 00:53:47,224 in the space shuttle program, because it had a wing on it. 1062 00:53:48,355 --> 00:53:50,269 - [Dr. Bluford] So I got to work. 1063 00:53:50,313 --> 00:53:55,056 And I was probably in the office maybe an hour or so 1064 00:53:55,101 --> 00:53:57,625 when I got this call from this strange guy. 1065 00:53:57,668 --> 00:53:58,974 [phone rings] 1066 00:53:59,713 --> 00:54:01,585 - And I thought, "Oh my goodness, okay. 1067 00:54:02,063 --> 00:54:06,068 This is the, you know, this is the call." [laughs] 1068 00:54:06,112 --> 00:54:09,333 Mr. Abbi gets on the phone and he says, "Fred." 1069 00:54:09,376 --> 00:54:10,463 I said, "Yes, sir." 1070 00:54:10,507 --> 00:54:11,248 He says, 1071 00:54:12,597 --> 00:54:13,641 "You're still interested in this job down here?" 1072 00:54:14,338 --> 00:54:17,036 I said, "Yes." [laughs] 1073 00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:20,474 And he says, "You've--okay, you've been selected 1074 00:54:20,518 --> 00:54:21,954 to be in this first class, 1075 00:54:22,476 --> 00:54:24,652 but you can't tell anybody until noon." 1076 00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:27,306 And this was like 7:30 in the morning. 1077 00:54:27,351 --> 00:54:29,309 I think I kept my word for five minutes. 1078 00:54:29,961 --> 00:54:31,963 And I... [laughs] 1079 00:54:32,617 --> 00:54:35,532 - [Nichols] One day, on television, 1080 00:54:35,576 --> 00:54:37,403 it came on as news. 1081 00:54:37,447 --> 00:54:39,014 - [Reporter] 35 people were ultimately chosen 1082 00:54:39,057 --> 00:54:40,320 to become astronauts. 1083 00:54:40,364 --> 00:54:41,974 - [Nichols] They mentioned my name, 1084 00:54:42,626 --> 00:54:44,628 and my son came running to me 1085 00:54:44,672 --> 00:54:47,501 and said, "Mom, Mom, come quick! 1086 00:54:47,545 --> 00:54:49,981 Your--your people are on television." 1087 00:54:50,983 --> 00:54:55,465 And I said, "Wha--?" I think he's talking about my TV show. 1088 00:54:56,030 --> 00:54:58,947 And I said, "Of course we're on TV, darling." 1089 00:54:58,990 --> 00:55:00,034 He says, "No, no, no! 1090 00:55:00,818 --> 00:55:05,693 Uh, uh. Your people that go up." [laughs] 1091 00:55:08,086 --> 00:55:11,307 And I came running, and I saw and there they were. 1092 00:55:12,134 --> 00:55:14,527 [camera shutter clicking] 1093 00:55:15,442 --> 00:55:17,661 Well, this might sound a little corny, 1094 00:55:19,664 --> 00:55:22,797 but it felt like my children. 1095 00:55:23,144 --> 00:55:26,322 And my heart, it pounded, 1096 00:55:27,802 --> 00:55:32,023 and I knew the world will never be the same again. 1097 00:55:32,416 --> 00:55:34,635 We would go on to great heights. 1098 00:55:35,722 --> 00:55:38,465 And to think that... 1099 00:55:40,641 --> 00:55:43,643 I had the slightest thing to do with it... 1100 00:55:45,690 --> 00:55:47,387 ? 1101 00:55:47,431 --> 00:55:48,344 [sighs] 1102 00:55:49,693 --> 00:55:55,134 makes me know that all things good are possible. 1103 00:55:56,701 --> 00:56:01,052 ? 1104 00:56:53,496 --> 00:56:56,500 - In '78, we got together for the first time 1105 00:56:56,543 --> 00:56:58,762 in February of '78. 1106 00:56:58,806 --> 00:57:02,157 - When I saw the picture of us, to me, that looked like 1107 00:57:02,201 --> 00:57:05,682 a very representative group of Americans. 1108 00:57:07,293 --> 00:57:09,121 And so from my point of view, 1109 00:57:09,164 --> 00:57:14,168 I saw brothers and sisters up there on that platform. 1110 00:57:14,213 --> 00:57:16,476 - We had six women. 1111 00:57:16,519 --> 00:57:21,829 I got to meet Fred Gregory, and I got to meet Ron McNair. 1112 00:57:25,572 --> 00:57:30,838 - Ron was actually impressed and--and encouraged 1113 00:57:30,882 --> 00:57:32,666 to come into the space program 1114 00:57:32,971 --> 00:57:34,581 due to the work that Nichelle did 1115 00:57:34,625 --> 00:57:35,974 in traveling around the country 1116 00:57:36,016 --> 00:57:37,454 and trying to help recruit for NASA. 1117 00:57:37,715 --> 00:57:39,150 The difference that Nichelle played 1118 00:57:39,193 --> 00:57:42,284 was the fact that she--she helped to make it real, 1119 00:57:42,327 --> 00:57:45,157 to make it a true possibility for him. 1120 00:57:45,983 --> 00:57:47,942 - [McNair] Times have changed to the point where a black man 1121 00:57:47,985 --> 00:57:50,858 can enter areas that were heretofore, 1122 00:57:51,293 --> 00:57:53,251 some sorta--you might say, prohibited. 1123 00:57:53,686 --> 00:57:56,168 - [Interviewer] Do you feel that three is an adequate number 1124 00:57:56,210 --> 00:57:57,474 at this point in time? 1125 00:57:58,561 --> 00:58:00,215 - Well, certainly, I don't feel three is adequate. 1126 00:58:00,259 --> 00:58:03,480 I think as many as you can get in, but a three is a start. 1127 00:58:03,740 --> 00:58:04,568 Let's do it. 1128 00:58:06,221 --> 00:58:08,266 - The first United States space shuttle was rolled out today 1129 00:58:08,702 --> 00:58:11,313 from Palmdale, California, in the Mojave Desert. 1130 00:58:11,356 --> 00:58:13,664 - [Announcer] President Ford may indeed be a fan 1131 00:58:13,706 --> 00:58:15,492 of the showStar Trek. 1132 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,536 When he was asked to approve 1133 00:58:17,581 --> 00:58:20,192 the name of the first American space shuttle craft, 1134 00:58:20,583 --> 00:58:23,630 the President chose the name The Enterprise. 1135 00:58:24,195 --> 00:58:25,806 - That was the first time the crew 1136 00:58:26,197 --> 00:58:29,940 was actually sort of featured along with NASA 1137 00:58:29,983 --> 00:58:32,204 in--in--in a public story. 1138 00:58:32,596 --> 00:58:34,728 - We were absolutely thrilled. 1139 00:58:35,206 --> 00:58:38,688 There was the band there, and they started to play a tune. 1140 00:58:38,905 --> 00:58:40,559 ? 1141 00:58:40,603 --> 00:58:44,911 It was the opening tune from the Star TrekTV series. 1142 00:58:45,391 --> 00:58:48,960 - And around a corner, a truck came into view 1143 00:58:49,003 --> 00:58:52,659 and it was towing this huge, enormous thing 1144 00:58:52,702 --> 00:58:55,226 that I had never seen the likes of which before. 1145 00:58:56,271 --> 00:59:00,536 And across the nose of the ship, it said Enterprise. 1146 00:59:02,407 --> 00:59:05,802 And we just burst into cheers. 1147 00:59:05,846 --> 00:59:07,891 I think we came close to tears, actually. 1148 00:59:08,414 --> 00:59:10,329 - It was an exciting 1149 00:59:10,371 --> 00:59:14,594 and deeply, profoundly moving experience for us. 1150 00:59:14,637 --> 00:59:16,161 - [Koenig] We felt like, goodness, 1151 00:59:16,204 --> 00:59:19,730 we really are a part of something that is real, 1152 00:59:19,773 --> 00:59:23,297 that is important, that is not science fiction alone. 1153 00:59:23,907 --> 00:59:26,650 ? 1154 00:59:27,346 --> 00:59:27,911 - [man] Incoming. 1155 00:59:29,695 --> 00:59:30,610 - [man 2] Doors opened and they're all down. Comin' down. 1156 00:59:30,653 --> 00:59:31,393 Touchdown here. 1157 00:59:31,916 --> 00:59:32,873 [indistinct radio chatter] 1158 00:59:38,748 --> 00:59:41,577 Four, three, two, drop. 1159 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,275 - [man 3] Hey, that was great. 1160 00:59:45,103 --> 00:59:47,800 ? 1161 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,588 [lights thunking] 1162 00:59:52,675 --> 00:59:54,938 - [Maj. Gregory] I was part of the launch team 1163 00:59:55,286 --> 00:59:56,288 for the first launch. 1164 00:59:57,768 --> 01:00:01,858 - [man] T minus ten, nine, eight, seven, 1165 01:00:02,119 --> 01:00:04,731 six, five, four. 1166 01:00:04,775 --> 01:00:06,603 Go for main engine start. 1167 01:00:07,429 --> 01:00:10,867 [engines roaring] 1168 01:00:11,737 --> 01:00:13,304 [birds squawking] 1169 01:00:18,744 --> 01:00:20,311 - [Maj. Gregory] We were all used to Saturns. 1170 01:00:22,182 --> 01:00:23,402 And I can remember when the shuttle came out of the cloud 1171 01:00:23,445 --> 01:00:26,884 for the first time, it was so short and stubby 1172 01:00:27,144 --> 01:00:29,974 that I thought maybe the real one was gonna come back up 1173 01:00:30,452 --> 01:00:31,322 and come out later. 1174 01:00:31,757 --> 01:00:34,326 ? 1175 01:00:44,030 --> 01:00:47,425 - And after we got through maybe STS two or three, 1176 01:00:47,469 --> 01:00:49,340 there was a lot of pressure going on 1177 01:00:49,384 --> 01:00:52,387 as to when are you gonna fly the first woman in space. 1178 01:00:52,431 --> 01:00:55,085 - Well, you helped bring the women into the program then. 1179 01:00:55,128 --> 01:00:59,438 What--how do you feel they're going to do in this man's world? 1180 01:00:59,481 --> 01:01:01,831 - I think it's not a man's world. 1181 01:01:02,135 --> 01:01:04,398 - [Announcer] The six women astronauts chosen 1182 01:01:04,443 --> 01:01:07,097 were Dr. Sally Ride, Dr. Judith Resnik, 1183 01:01:07,141 --> 01:01:09,969 Dr. Kathy Sullivan, Anna Fisher, Rhea Seddon, 1184 01:01:10,014 --> 01:01:11,755 and Dr. Shannon Lucid. 1185 01:01:11,797 --> 01:01:14,061 - I wanna get up as soon as I can. 1186 01:01:14,452 --> 01:01:16,324 So that means that I'd like to be the first woman up. 1187 01:01:16,367 --> 01:01:18,369 - How does it feel to realize 1188 01:01:18,413 --> 01:01:19,980 that you are going to become 1189 01:01:20,023 --> 01:01:21,155 a footnote in history 1190 01:01:21,199 --> 01:01:23,505 and a trivia question subject forever? 1191 01:01:23,548 --> 01:01:24,768 - Gosh, that's quite an honor. 1192 01:01:25,811 --> 01:01:27,422 I was, I have to admit, not prepared 1193 01:01:27,465 --> 01:01:29,686 for all the attention that I received. 1194 01:01:29,947 --> 01:01:31,775 - Please welcome Sally Ride. 1195 01:01:31,818 --> 01:01:35,387 - Sally Ride's flight aboard STS-7 in 1983 1196 01:01:35,778 --> 01:01:39,043 uh, was a moment where there were people lined up 1197 01:01:39,085 --> 01:01:42,393 across Florida highways and around Kennedy Space Center 1198 01:01:42,436 --> 01:01:44,483 with signs that said, "Ride Sally Ride." 1199 01:01:44,525 --> 01:01:46,050 ? 1200 01:01:48,835 --> 01:01:50,402 [engines roaring] 1201 01:01:55,536 --> 01:01:57,103 - John Young, head of the astronaut office, 1202 01:01:57,148 --> 01:01:59,018 came up and said, "Hey, George wants to talk to you. 1203 01:01:59,063 --> 01:02:01,543 Go over to his office at 10:30." 1204 01:02:01,586 --> 01:02:02,893 I sort of said to myself, 1205 01:02:02,936 --> 01:02:04,894 "Oh, I wonder what I did wrong," you know. 1206 01:02:05,068 --> 01:02:07,157 And we were waiting outside his office, and 1207 01:02:07,201 --> 01:02:10,074 we all came in and we sat down around his table. 1208 01:02:10,813 --> 01:02:13,206 And George said, in a very humbling way, 1209 01:02:13,817 --> 01:02:16,775 "You know, I need somebody to fly on STS-8. 1210 01:02:16,820 --> 01:02:18,952 Do you wanna, do you guys wanna fly for STS-8?" 1211 01:02:18,996 --> 01:02:20,083 Yeah! 1212 01:02:20,126 --> 01:02:21,998 ? 1213 01:02:32,269 --> 01:02:34,751 - The flights of those as the firsts 1214 01:02:35,099 --> 01:02:37,449 were both moments of extraordinary pressure 1215 01:02:37,492 --> 01:02:41,800 on the individual who had the burden and the opportunity 1216 01:02:41,844 --> 01:02:44,804 of being the first to do something so significant, 1217 01:02:44,847 --> 01:02:46,110 um, but they were also, I think, 1218 01:02:46,152 --> 01:02:48,547 met with a lot of public enthusiasm. 1219 01:02:49,025 --> 01:02:50,461 - [Dr. Bluford] Well, one, I was pleased 1220 01:02:50,505 --> 01:02:53,465 to be selected to be, uh, to fly on STS-8 1221 01:02:54,552 --> 01:02:57,990 and to recognize that I would be opening the doors 1222 01:02:58,034 --> 01:03:01,168 for other African Americans who would be flying in space. 1223 01:03:02,168 --> 01:03:02,865 - [Mission Control] Challenger, 1224 01:03:03,909 --> 01:03:04,780 the President is on the line. 1225 01:03:06,652 --> 01:03:08,784 - [Reagan] Guys, congratulations. 1226 01:03:09,610 --> 01:03:14,007 You, I think, are paving the way for many others, 1227 01:03:14,050 --> 01:03:15,530 and you're making it plain that 1228 01:03:16,661 --> 01:03:19,969 we are in an era of brotherhood. 1229 01:03:20,492 --> 01:03:23,277 I can't help but express my gratitude. 1230 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,278 [crowd applauding] 1231 01:03:26,237 --> 01:03:27,585 - [Maj. Gregory] The press loved it. 1232 01:03:27,628 --> 01:03:30,067 "Well, what's it feel like being the only? 1233 01:03:30,327 --> 01:03:32,590 Well what's it feel like starting 1234 01:03:32,634 --> 01:03:34,201 or breaking the glass barrier?" 1235 01:03:34,940 --> 01:03:39,206 You could not have found a better selected group. 1236 01:03:41,251 --> 01:03:44,210 - My sister, Judy Resnik, was a scientist 1237 01:03:44,690 --> 01:03:48,606 and found the ultimate job as an astronaut, 1238 01:03:48,650 --> 01:03:52,219 being the second American woman to go into space. 1239 01:03:53,351 --> 01:03:55,135 Nichelle should be proud of what she did 1240 01:03:55,179 --> 01:03:58,922 in her part in recruiting Judy and others 1241 01:03:59,226 --> 01:04:01,010 because she gave them the opportunity 1242 01:04:01,054 --> 01:04:03,186 to do exactly what they wanted to do. 1243 01:04:04,666 --> 01:04:05,885 - [Dr. Joels] The importance 1244 01:04:05,929 --> 01:04:07,190 and the historical significance 1245 01:04:07,233 --> 01:04:09,583 of Nichelle's efforts with NASA 1246 01:04:09,628 --> 01:04:11,195 is probably best summarized 1247 01:04:11,237 --> 01:04:12,978 by the moment where she was given 1248 01:04:13,023 --> 01:04:14,197 the Public Service Award. 1249 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,025 ? 1250 01:04:17,375 --> 01:04:18,637 It was Judy that actually 1251 01:04:18,679 --> 01:04:19,985 presented the medal to Nichelle. 1252 01:04:20,681 --> 01:04:23,989 And she and Judy were--were close. 1253 01:04:24,034 --> 01:04:27,601 And she always appreciated the fact 1254 01:04:27,646 --> 01:04:30,648 that they had stayed close after the recruitment. 1255 01:04:33,695 --> 01:04:35,349 - When I got in the Orbiter in the Challenger 1256 01:04:35,393 --> 01:04:36,568 from my first mission, 1257 01:04:37,568 --> 01:04:40,266 I was--went in there actually pretty cocky. 1258 01:04:40,702 --> 01:04:45,925 I would say that we were 90 to 95 percent aware of what it was 1259 01:04:45,969 --> 01:04:48,188 that we were gonna see and experience. 1260 01:04:48,579 --> 01:04:51,148 But they left out the five percent or 10 percent, 1261 01:04:51,757 --> 01:04:53,324 and that was the actual experience. 1262 01:04:53,367 --> 01:04:55,717 [engines roaring] 1263 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,632 When the main engine started and we looked out the window 1264 01:04:58,677 --> 01:05:01,288 and the Orbiter tipped, we called it a plane, 1265 01:05:02,072 --> 01:05:05,161 and when it came back in zero and the solids ignited, 1266 01:05:05,726 --> 01:05:09,601 there was no doubt you were going someplace really fast. 1267 01:05:10,123 --> 01:05:11,690 And it shook and rattled 1268 01:05:11,733 --> 01:05:13,387 and I said it was something like 1269 01:05:13,431 --> 01:05:15,606 an old wooden rollercoaster. 1270 01:05:16,172 --> 01:05:18,304 And by this time, we are screaming. 1271 01:05:19,610 --> 01:05:22,005 At two minutes after liftoff, 1272 01:05:22,047 --> 01:05:24,659 those solid rockets have burned all of their fuel 1273 01:05:24,702 --> 01:05:26,617 and they have blown away from the tank. 1274 01:05:28,054 --> 01:05:31,014 And you see the flash through the windows, 1275 01:05:31,056 --> 01:05:34,668 and suddenly that rattle, that shake, rattle and roll, 1276 01:05:34,713 --> 01:05:37,715 goes into just a very, like an electric motor. 1277 01:05:39,326 --> 01:05:41,023 Now you're accelerating, 1278 01:05:41,067 --> 01:05:43,329 but you just begin to feel it in your chest, 1279 01:05:43,635 --> 01:05:45,637 and it just gets more and more. 1280 01:05:45,679 --> 01:05:49,248 At about a minute or so before main engine cutoff 1281 01:05:49,293 --> 01:05:51,208 and when you've reached orbital velocity, 1282 01:05:51,469 --> 01:05:54,297 you have a steady three Gs and everybody is going... 1283 01:05:54,688 --> 01:05:56,735 [panting] 1284 01:05:56,777 --> 01:05:59,302 At about eight and a half minutes, which is all the time 1285 01:05:59,346 --> 01:06:01,695 it takes to get to space, main engines cut off... 1286 01:06:01,739 --> 01:06:03,349 [ship clanking] 1287 01:06:03,393 --> 01:06:07,050 ...and you go immediately from three Gs to zero Gs. 1288 01:06:07,353 --> 01:06:09,181 And your arms just float up like this, 1289 01:06:09,226 --> 01:06:12,793 and any debris just floats around like this. 1290 01:06:12,838 --> 01:06:13,969 And then you're in space. 1291 01:06:15,579 --> 01:06:17,277 And you look out the window for the first time 1292 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,061 and you see the Earth beneath you, 1293 01:06:19,496 --> 01:06:21,324 this beautiful blue marble. 1294 01:06:23,108 --> 01:06:24,632 ? 1295 01:06:24,675 --> 01:06:26,634 You go around the world in a hour and a half, 1296 01:06:26,677 --> 01:06:27,722 every 90 minutes. 1297 01:06:29,376 --> 01:06:32,030 You know, your whole concept of neighbors changes, you know. 1298 01:06:32,074 --> 01:06:34,251 A neighbor that you walk to might take five minutes. 1299 01:06:34,293 --> 01:06:36,253 In five minutes, you're across the Atlantic Ocean. 1300 01:06:36,514 --> 01:06:39,255 Your concept of who a friend is, an enemy, 1301 01:06:39,690 --> 01:06:44,130 your concept of faith, all of these things change 1302 01:06:45,523 --> 01:06:47,045 when you have the privilege and honor 1303 01:06:47,090 --> 01:06:48,742 to do something like that. 1304 01:06:48,786 --> 01:06:50,702 And you know, from the political point of view, 1305 01:06:50,744 --> 01:06:53,096 I wish we could send politicians up there 1306 01:06:53,139 --> 01:06:55,184 and they realize that what we're talking about 1307 01:06:55,532 --> 01:06:57,751 is people in the world down here 1308 01:06:57,795 --> 01:06:59,710 as opposed to factions of this, 1309 01:06:59,753 --> 01:07:04,063 and I think it would have fantastic influence on them 1310 01:07:04,106 --> 01:07:05,108 as they make decisions. 1311 01:07:06,543 --> 01:07:07,806 It all makes sense when you-- when you look at it 1312 01:07:08,414 --> 01:07:10,242 from--from the space point. 1313 01:07:10,286 --> 01:07:12,331 So this was just my first, you know, 1314 01:07:12,376 --> 01:07:15,248 my--like my first five minutes on my first mission. 1315 01:07:15,813 --> 01:07:18,208 It just makes you come home and just go wow. 1316 01:07:18,773 --> 01:07:21,427 ? 1317 01:07:26,432 --> 01:07:31,047 - By the time we flew the 24th flight of the space shuttle, 1318 01:07:31,438 --> 01:07:37,052 Charlie, Franklin, and I were the rookies on that flight. 1319 01:07:37,269 --> 01:07:38,793 - [Reporter] Florida Congressman Bill Nelson 1320 01:07:38,836 --> 01:07:40,447 is the second congressional observer 1321 01:07:40,490 --> 01:07:41,405 to fly on the shuttle. 1322 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,061 - It so happened that our CAPCOM was Fred Gregory. 1323 01:07:46,844 --> 01:07:49,847 So after four tries to get off the ground, 1324 01:07:50,414 --> 01:07:53,721 four scrubs over the better part of a month, 1325 01:07:53,764 --> 01:07:56,768 the first time that two shuttles were on the pad, 1326 01:07:57,594 --> 01:08:01,119 on the fifth try, we launched. 1327 01:08:01,164 --> 01:08:03,427 Eight and a half minutes later, we were in space. 1328 01:08:03,469 --> 01:08:06,429 The first words coming from Fred Gregory was, 1329 01:08:06,864 --> 01:08:09,780 "Welcome to space, rookies." 1330 01:08:10,215 --> 01:08:12,827 - [woman breathing heavily] - [birds chirping] 1331 01:08:16,613 --> 01:08:20,487 It's now just 10 days after we've returned to Earth. 1332 01:08:20,835 --> 01:08:23,881 A Challenger has been sitting on the other pad 1333 01:08:24,490 --> 01:08:27,841 because we were so late getting off the pad 1334 01:08:27,886 --> 01:08:30,235 with all of those scrubs. 1335 01:08:30,279 --> 01:08:32,804 - [woman breathing heavily] - [heart thumping] 1336 01:08:34,457 --> 01:08:36,546 - It was a cold day, end of January. 1337 01:08:36,590 --> 01:08:37,547 - [Reporter] Some of the icicles 1338 01:08:37,591 --> 01:08:38,939 which have built up on the-- 1339 01:08:38,984 --> 01:08:39,506 - [Maj. Gregory] I was the lead CAPCOM. 1340 01:08:40,985 --> 01:08:42,900 Uh, the--all of the CAPCOMs work for me. 1341 01:08:43,380 --> 01:08:46,818 - I had a friend had come into town, 1342 01:08:46,860 --> 01:08:48,297 was staying at my house, 1343 01:08:48,559 --> 01:08:50,822 and I had gone for my morning walk. 1344 01:08:50,864 --> 01:08:52,389 [indistinct radio chatter] 1345 01:08:54,260 --> 01:08:56,175 - [Reporter] Countdown going very smoothly 1346 01:08:56,219 --> 01:08:57,568 here at the Kennedy Space Center. 1347 01:08:57,610 --> 01:08:59,395 Uh, all of the crew members 1348 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,137 are onboard the Orbiter Challenger now. 1349 01:09:03,921 --> 01:09:05,228 ? 1350 01:09:05,270 --> 01:09:07,490 - [woman breathing heavily] - [heart thumping] 1351 01:09:07,533 --> 01:09:08,840 [machinery whirring] 1352 01:09:10,363 --> 01:09:13,801 - [man] T minus 10, nine, eight, seven, six. 1353 01:09:13,845 --> 01:09:14,932 We have main engine. 1354 01:09:14,975 --> 01:09:16,238 [engine roaring] 1355 01:09:16,282 --> 01:09:19,242 Four, three, two, one. 1356 01:09:19,894 --> 01:09:21,157 And liftoff. 1357 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,421 Liftoff of the 25th space shuttle mission 1358 01:09:24,463 --> 01:09:26,204 and it has cleared the tower. 1359 01:09:26,248 --> 01:09:27,292 - [Maj. Gregory] The Challenger lifted off. 1360 01:09:27,337 --> 01:09:28,425 Everything looked great. 1361 01:09:28,859 --> 01:09:30,644 After the 10-second rise, 1362 01:09:30,688 --> 01:09:32,819 the Orbiter rolls over on its back 1363 01:09:32,863 --> 01:09:37,216 and begins this--this trip out over the Atlantic Ocean. 1364 01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:40,393 And the commander of the mission will say, 1365 01:09:40,436 --> 01:09:41,568 "Roll program, Houston," 1366 01:09:42,046 --> 01:09:45,963 and the CAPCOM will say, "Roger, roll." 1367 01:09:46,006 --> 01:09:49,228 So that's the first conversation that occurs 1368 01:09:49,271 --> 01:09:51,404 between mission control in Houston and the Orbiter. 1369 01:09:51,448 --> 01:09:52,884 - [Commander] Roll program. 1370 01:09:53,579 --> 01:09:54,841 - Roger, roll, Challenger. 1371 01:09:54,886 --> 01:09:56,408 - And then the next thing that occurs 1372 01:09:56,453 --> 01:09:59,586 is as we go through the speed of sound mach one, 1373 01:10:00,020 --> 01:10:01,587 the main engines throttle back. 1374 01:10:02,023 --> 01:10:04,329 But then when we get through mach one, 1375 01:10:04,547 --> 01:10:07,985 we'd go back to 100 percent and it's throttle up. 1376 01:10:08,029 --> 01:10:08,899 - [Mission Control] Challenger, 1377 01:10:08,943 --> 01:10:09,900 go with throttle up. 1378 01:10:11,597 --> 01:10:13,948 - And it was right after that, at 71 seconds, that suddenly... 1379 01:10:13,992 --> 01:10:15,471 [indistinct radio chatter] 1380 01:10:16,037 --> 01:10:16,908 [explosion] 1381 01:10:19,737 --> 01:10:20,912 ...it disappeared. 1382 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,916 ? 1383 01:10:34,404 --> 01:10:36,056 - [man] Flight controllers here looking very carefully 1384 01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:36,884 at the situation, 1385 01:10:38,625 --> 01:10:39,756 obviously a major malfunction. 1386 01:10:43,456 --> 01:10:45,936 - [Nichols] It was like part of your family, 1387 01:10:47,372 --> 01:10:50,028 hearing something happen 1388 01:10:51,072 --> 01:10:54,380 to a member of your-- your family. 1389 01:10:56,512 --> 01:10:57,948 [sighs] 1390 01:10:58,775 --> 01:10:59,603 Um... 1391 01:11:02,127 --> 01:11:04,564 And--and we have to deal with it. 1392 01:11:06,523 --> 01:11:09,961 Judy Resnik was... 1393 01:11:16,359 --> 01:11:17,403 I'm sorry. 1394 01:11:19,622 --> 01:11:20,275 I'm sorry. 1395 01:11:20,667 --> 01:11:22,408 ? 1396 01:11:24,497 --> 01:11:25,628 - [Interviewer] You wanna take a little break, Nichelle? 1397 01:11:29,109 --> 01:11:31,677 - I was thinking yes, 1398 01:11:33,027 --> 01:11:38,423 but we owe to Judy Resnik and her like kind 1399 01:11:40,992 --> 01:11:42,689 the blessing that God 1400 01:11:46,823 --> 01:11:47,780 meant for her. 1401 01:11:47,824 --> 01:11:49,130 [sobbing] I can't do it. 1402 01:11:49,173 --> 01:11:50,087 I'm sorry. 1403 01:11:50,828 --> 01:11:51,698 - [Interviewer] It's okay. 1404 01:11:53,177 --> 01:11:54,310 Stop. - [man] Stop. 1405 01:11:56,573 --> 01:11:58,009 - [Sen. Nelson] Everybody was gone. 1406 01:12:03,405 --> 01:12:05,320 It's still tough. 1407 01:12:08,801 --> 01:12:11,021 And I said to myself, 1408 01:12:12,197 --> 01:12:15,025 "Why were we spared?" 1409 01:12:16,418 --> 01:12:20,726 Because we had been through so many near misses. 1410 01:12:23,077 --> 01:12:25,122 - And perhaps we've forgotten the courage it took 1411 01:12:25,166 --> 01:12:26,603 for the crew of the shuttle. 1412 01:12:27,472 --> 01:12:29,127 But they, the Challenger Seven, 1413 01:12:29,170 --> 01:12:30,606 were aware of the dangers 1414 01:12:32,304 --> 01:12:33,697 and overcame them and did their jobs brilliantly. 1415 01:12:33,739 --> 01:12:35,350 - Three of her recruits, 1416 01:12:35,612 --> 01:12:37,135 um, Ron McNair, 1417 01:12:38,179 --> 01:12:39,615 Ellison Onizuka, 1418 01:12:40,529 --> 01:12:41,704 and Judith Resnik, 1419 01:12:42,444 --> 01:12:44,751 um, all passed away in that one mission, 1420 01:12:45,229 --> 01:12:49,060 and that was a very painful experience for her 1421 01:12:49,103 --> 01:12:49,626 at that point. 1422 01:12:51,192 --> 01:12:53,542 - It caught everybody such by surprise 1423 01:12:54,064 --> 01:12:56,372 that it really kinda shook your faith 1424 01:12:57,068 --> 01:12:59,375 in human nature a little bit, in your ability 1425 01:12:59,591 --> 01:13:02,115 to actually do the things and command the things 1426 01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:03,421 and master the things that 1427 01:13:03,466 --> 01:13:05,076 you have to do for space flight. 1428 01:13:05,118 --> 01:13:06,511 - [man] Okay, everybody, start pulling it together. 1429 01:13:08,645 --> 01:13:10,081 - [Dr. Phillis] Because you think about your friends, 1430 01:13:10,472 --> 01:13:12,518 you know, I think about the conversation that I had 1431 01:13:12,561 --> 01:13:13,823 with my friend, Ron about, 1432 01:13:13,867 --> 01:13:15,390 "Hey, we're gonna form a business together." 1433 01:13:15,738 --> 01:13:17,001 And I used to jokingly say, 1434 01:13:17,043 --> 01:13:18,305 "Well, would it be Phillips McNair, 1435 01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:19,743 or would it be McNair Phillips?" 1436 01:13:19,786 --> 01:13:20,613 So who's the most important, you know. 1437 01:13:20,657 --> 01:13:21,744 We used to joke about that. 1438 01:13:22,572 --> 01:13:24,181 But I knew Ron's family and you think, 1439 01:13:24,225 --> 01:13:27,403 wow, you multiply that sense of loss 1440 01:13:28,273 --> 01:13:30,100 over the number of families that were affected. 1441 01:13:30,796 --> 01:13:33,104 When there are people involved, it gets tough. 1442 01:13:34,234 --> 01:13:36,106 ? 1443 01:13:41,242 --> 01:13:42,417 - [man] Ladies and gentlemen, 1444 01:13:43,896 --> 01:13:45,551 I'd like to introduce the Vice President, Mr. Bush. 1445 01:13:46,682 --> 01:13:51,774 - When George Bush came to visit us in the crew quarters-- 1446 01:13:51,818 --> 01:13:52,689 - Thank you very much. 1447 01:13:54,125 --> 01:13:57,520 And I'm now gonna go pay my respects to the families. 1448 01:13:57,563 --> 01:14:00,173 - [Scobee Fulgham] My mom stepped forward and just said, 1449 01:14:00,827 --> 01:14:03,699 "Please don't let this end the space program 1450 01:14:04,657 --> 01:14:07,485 because this meant so much to our loved ones. 1451 01:14:07,747 --> 01:14:08,921 Please keep going." 1452 01:14:10,881 --> 01:14:12,926 - The crew of the space shuttle Challenger 1453 01:14:12,970 --> 01:14:15,451 honored us with the manner in which they lived their lives. 1454 01:14:16,277 --> 01:14:17,453 We will never forget them 1455 01:14:18,975 --> 01:14:19,845 nor the last time we saw them this morning 1456 01:14:21,543 --> 01:14:24,154 as they prepared for their journey and waved goodbye 1457 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,462 and slipped the surly bonds of earth 1458 01:14:28,332 --> 01:14:29,769 to touch the face of God. 1459 01:14:32,337 --> 01:14:33,599 Nothing ends here. 1460 01:14:34,644 --> 01:14:36,515 Our hopes and our journeys continue. 1461 01:14:39,256 --> 01:14:44,175 - There's a progression of shock and grief immediately. 1462 01:14:44,609 --> 01:14:48,613 And you have to get through that before you get on with, 1463 01:14:48,658 --> 01:14:52,704 okay, we're gonna fix it and get on with the program. 1464 01:14:53,010 --> 01:14:56,840 - I was privileged to have an opportunity 1465 01:14:56,882 --> 01:14:57,970 to go over to the safety division 1466 01:14:58,015 --> 01:14:59,189 at the Johnson Space Center 1467 01:14:59,712 --> 01:15:01,539 and become the Director of Safety. 1468 01:15:01,583 --> 01:15:04,716 And my primary responsibility was to oversee 1469 01:15:04,761 --> 01:15:07,632 the return to flight from a safety perspective. 1470 01:15:07,676 --> 01:15:09,809 And so that became my charge 1471 01:15:09,853 --> 01:15:11,984 for the next two years after the accident. 1472 01:15:12,332 --> 01:15:16,859 - I wanted--I made a commitment to the people on the Challenger 1473 01:15:17,381 --> 01:15:18,774 that I would, you know, stay there 1474 01:15:18,818 --> 01:15:21,212 to make sure that we returned to flight. 1475 01:15:22,648 --> 01:15:24,606 - I always have optimism 1476 01:15:24,911 --> 01:15:29,872 because I only know that if something is not right, 1477 01:15:31,047 --> 01:15:32,570 you can change it. 1478 01:15:32,614 --> 01:15:33,832 - Let's not kid ourselves 1479 01:15:33,877 --> 01:15:36,662 that there is no potential danger in this! 1480 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,578 - Do you wish that the first Apollo mission 1481 01:15:40,622 --> 01:15:42,886 hadn't reached the moon, or that we hadn't gone on to Mars 1482 01:15:42,929 --> 01:15:44,234 and then to the nearest star? 1483 01:15:47,368 --> 01:15:49,545 Dr. McCoy is right 1484 01:15:51,068 --> 01:15:54,810 in pointing out the enormous danger potential. 1485 01:15:55,332 --> 01:15:59,729 But I must point out that the possibilities, the potential 1486 01:16:00,381 --> 01:16:03,253 for knowledge and advancement is equally great! 1487 01:16:04,385 --> 01:16:05,996 ? 1488 01:16:08,389 --> 01:16:09,260 Risk, 1489 01:16:10,042 --> 01:16:11,914 risk is our business. 1490 01:16:13,698 --> 01:16:15,265 That's what this starship is all about. 1491 01:16:17,268 --> 01:16:18,877 - [man] We are confident we will launch 1492 01:16:18,921 --> 01:16:20,532 and come back safely. 1493 01:16:20,576 --> 01:16:22,621 But there are no guarantees associated with that 1494 01:16:22,664 --> 01:16:23,274 and there can't be. 1495 01:16:24,622 --> 01:16:26,407 The only way you can guarantee that much safety 1496 01:16:26,451 --> 01:16:27,320 is to never launch. 1497 01:16:27,364 --> 01:16:28,931 [engines roaring] 1498 01:16:28,975 --> 01:16:30,280 - [Mission Control] We have main engine start. 1499 01:16:30,672 --> 01:16:33,588 Three, two, one. 1500 01:16:34,414 --> 01:16:36,329 - [man] We have liftoff! 1501 01:16:36,373 --> 01:16:38,898 Liftoff! America's return to space! 1502 01:16:39,725 --> 01:16:41,770 ? 1503 01:16:44,425 --> 01:16:45,644 - [man 2] Roger roll, Discovery. 1504 01:16:45,992 --> 01:16:47,993 [indistinct radio chatter] 1505 01:16:52,694 --> 01:16:54,653 - [Hauck] Today, up here where the blue sky 1506 01:16:54,697 --> 01:16:57,743 turns to black, we can say at long last, 1507 01:16:57,787 --> 01:17:00,310 dear friends, your spirit and your dream 1508 01:17:00,703 --> 01:17:02,313 are still alive in our hearts. 1509 01:17:03,140 --> 01:17:04,402 It sure does feel good to see 1510 01:17:04,444 --> 01:17:05,795 the Challenger mission continue 1511 01:17:06,317 --> 01:17:07,666 and America back in space. 1512 01:17:07,884 --> 01:17:09,712 ? 1513 01:17:18,502 --> 01:17:21,636 - [woman] Children, this is the Air and Space Museum. 1514 01:17:22,506 --> 01:17:25,422 Now, have a good time and use your imagination. 1515 01:17:25,466 --> 01:17:27,990 [children] ? Then I travel out in space 1516 01:17:28,033 --> 01:17:30,863 ? Exploring the whole galaxy 1517 01:17:31,429 --> 01:17:34,039 - [Nichols] I have always been involved with young people, 1518 01:17:34,387 --> 01:17:37,695 and I've always been invited to talk to young people 1519 01:17:37,739 --> 01:17:40,350 about stay in school and this kind of thing. 1520 01:17:40,394 --> 01:17:43,658 Suddenly, I had something wonderful to talk to them about, 1521 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:44,833 their future. 1522 01:17:44,877 --> 01:17:47,358 [beam whirring] 1523 01:17:50,796 --> 01:17:52,363 - Ms. Nichols has kept up, 1524 01:17:52,405 --> 01:17:54,844 over especially the last 10 or 20 years, 1525 01:17:54,886 --> 01:17:57,802 a busy and active schedule of outreach, 1526 01:17:57,846 --> 01:18:00,850 and she has had a wonderful relationship with NASA. 1527 01:18:00,893 --> 01:18:01,894 - I'm Nichelle Nichols. 1528 01:18:02,112 --> 01:18:03,461 I'm Nichelle Nichols. 1529 01:18:03,503 --> 01:18:04,462 I'm Nichelle Nichols. 1530 01:18:04,505 --> 01:18:05,898 I'm Nichelle Nichols. 1531 01:18:05,942 --> 01:18:07,421 I'm Nichelle Nichols. 1532 01:18:07,465 --> 01:18:09,380 ? 1533 01:18:11,033 --> 01:18:12,904 - [Dr. Ellenbogen] I've actually spent a lot of time 1534 01:18:12,948 --> 01:18:15,734 studying the evolution of science education 1535 01:18:15,778 --> 01:18:17,823 in the United States after Sputnik. 1536 01:18:18,215 --> 01:18:23,350 And to find out that Nichelle Nichols actually formed 1537 01:18:23,394 --> 01:18:25,483 one of the early companies, was the first woman 1538 01:18:25,525 --> 01:18:28,747 to run a STEM education company like that 1539 01:18:28,791 --> 01:18:31,750 in an era when there were so many things going on 1540 01:18:31,793 --> 01:18:34,056 to transform STEM education in the United States, 1541 01:18:34,492 --> 01:18:35,971 uh, that was a great shock to me. 1542 01:18:36,189 --> 01:18:37,103 [gasps] 1543 01:18:37,582 --> 01:18:39,409 ? 1544 01:18:41,064 --> 01:18:43,501 [beam whirring] 1545 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,069 [crowd cheering] 1546 01:18:48,418 --> 01:18:49,768 - [Whoopi] How are you doing? 1547 01:18:49,811 --> 01:18:51,073 [speaks indistinctly] 1548 01:18:51,247 --> 01:18:52,422 - [Whoopi] Yeah, it's just me. 1549 01:18:53,250 --> 01:18:54,467 - You are-- 1550 01:18:54,511 --> 01:18:56,470 - No, no, no, this is about you. 1551 01:18:56,514 --> 01:18:57,863 [crowd laughs] 1552 01:18:57,907 --> 01:18:59,996 Let's just talk about what you've done for women. 1553 01:19:00,038 --> 01:19:01,779 - [Col. Collins] Well, I can tell you a li--a little story. 1554 01:19:01,823 --> 01:19:04,739 The--the director of Johnson Space Center 1555 01:19:04,957 --> 01:19:07,046 called me up to his office, told me I was gonna be 1556 01:19:07,090 --> 01:19:09,875 the first woman space shuttle commander, 1557 01:19:11,442 --> 01:19:12,791 "The reason I'm talking to you 1558 01:19:12,835 --> 01:19:15,445 is the First Lady of the United States 1559 01:19:15,488 --> 01:19:17,100 would like to announce your mission 1560 01:19:17,882 --> 01:19:21,974 at the White House on Monday," which was three days away, 1561 01:19:22,496 --> 01:19:25,542 "Make some remarks from the White House," so. [chuckles] 1562 01:19:25,978 --> 01:19:29,765 - In December 1998, when the Shuttle Columbia takes off, 1563 01:19:30,025 --> 01:19:33,899 Colonel Eileen Collins will take one big step forward for women 1564 01:19:34,159 --> 01:19:36,248 and one giant leap for humanity. 1565 01:19:36,292 --> 01:19:38,948 [crowd applauds] 1566 01:19:45,215 --> 01:19:48,521 - Dr. Mae Jemison, the first woman African American 1567 01:19:48,565 --> 01:19:50,046 to become an astronaut, 1568 01:19:50,088 --> 01:19:52,831 directly credits Nichelle Nichols's campaign 1569 01:19:52,875 --> 01:19:54,963 with her decision to become an astronaut. 1570 01:19:55,615 --> 01:19:58,488 - I was very much a Star Trekfan. 1571 01:19:58,532 --> 01:20:02,057 And then to finish the whole story off and go full circle, 1572 01:20:02,885 --> 01:20:05,582 I appeared on Star Trek. [chuckles] 1573 01:20:06,323 --> 01:20:07,932 Phase distortion is dropping. 1574 01:20:08,194 --> 01:20:10,239 The next transport window opens in 42 seconds. 1575 01:20:10,283 --> 01:20:12,502 - I admired her so much. 1576 01:20:13,329 --> 01:20:17,987 And we fortunately became very, very good friends 1577 01:20:18,029 --> 01:20:19,510 and still are today. 1578 01:20:22,338 --> 01:20:23,774 - My mom and dad told me, 1579 01:20:23,819 --> 01:20:25,559 "One day, you too can be President of the United States." 1580 01:20:25,603 --> 01:20:27,518 I knew that was crap, uh, you know, 1581 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,649 'cause I hadn't seen a--a black president. 1582 01:20:29,694 --> 01:20:32,957 And--and it was sort of like, okay, yeah, right. 1583 01:20:33,002 --> 01:20:34,568 I would have said no way in the world 1584 01:20:34,612 --> 01:20:36,569 I'm gonna be an astronaut, no way in the world 1585 01:20:36,613 --> 01:20:38,310 I will end up being the NASA administrator 1586 01:20:38,354 --> 01:20:41,488 appointed by a black president of the United States. 1587 01:20:41,532 --> 01:20:45,056 - Who turned out to be a fan. [laughs] 1588 01:20:47,930 --> 01:20:51,149 So it wasn't me trying to meet the President. 1589 01:20:51,194 --> 01:20:52,890 The President said, 1590 01:20:52,935 --> 01:20:56,634 "I'm in a position to meet anybody I want. 1591 01:20:56,676 --> 01:20:58,896 I wanna meet Nichelle Nichols." 1592 01:20:58,940 --> 01:21:01,856 And I was like, "Oh my God." 1593 01:21:02,682 --> 01:21:03,859 It was wonderful. 1594 01:21:05,295 --> 01:21:08,297 - I hope that people continue to thank Ms. Nichols 1595 01:21:08,341 --> 01:21:11,256 for helping African-Americans and for helping women 1596 01:21:11,649 --> 01:21:15,000 in their pursuits of what we would now call STEM fields. 1597 01:21:15,043 --> 01:21:17,176 - STEM stands for science, technology, 1598 01:21:17,220 --> 01:21:18,917 engineering, and mathematics. 1599 01:21:18,961 --> 01:21:21,614 It's a convenient moniker for something that is vital 1600 01:21:21,658 --> 01:21:23,921 to the future of the human race overall. 1601 01:21:23,966 --> 01:21:28,926 - Having men, women, different ethnicities 1602 01:21:29,145 --> 01:21:31,015 all as astronauts 1603 01:21:31,060 --> 01:21:33,279 and hearing about their journeys going to space 1604 01:21:33,323 --> 01:21:35,672 really made an impact on me as a little girl 1605 01:21:35,716 --> 01:21:38,588 and really taught me that it doesn't matter what, 1606 01:21:39,024 --> 01:21:41,287 whether you're male, female, or what race you are. 1607 01:21:41,765 --> 01:21:43,114 Anyone can go to space. 1608 01:21:43,158 --> 01:21:44,247 Space is for everyone. 1609 01:21:45,725 --> 01:21:47,945 - Today, I'm pleased to announce that NASA has selected 1610 01:21:47,989 --> 01:21:50,296 America's next generation of space explorers. 1611 01:21:50,730 --> 01:21:53,298 - Today, astronaut classes are more equally balanced, 1612 01:21:53,646 --> 01:21:56,737 and they include both women and men, 1613 01:21:56,780 --> 01:21:58,087 much like the diversity 1614 01:21:58,304 --> 01:22:00,610 on the bridge of the Starship Enterprise. 1615 01:22:01,438 --> 01:22:03,613 ? 1616 01:22:04,702 --> 01:22:06,703 - [Nichols] I was at the last launching 1617 01:22:06,747 --> 01:22:07,922 of the space shuttle. 1618 01:22:09,140 --> 01:22:12,100 It's like visiting family. 1619 01:22:13,015 --> 01:22:14,015 They know you. 1620 01:22:14,059 --> 01:22:15,104 You know them. 1621 01:22:16,582 --> 01:22:18,759 You don't see your family all the time. 1622 01:22:18,802 --> 01:22:20,109 [laughter] 1623 01:22:21,197 --> 01:22:26,288 Being at a launch is like the rarest thing 1624 01:22:26,332 --> 01:22:30,640 that you can think of that you would enjoy the most. 1625 01:22:32,425 --> 01:22:35,775 - [Announcer] Two, one, zero, and liftoff! 1626 01:22:35,819 --> 01:22:38,387 The final liftoff of Atlantis. 1627 01:22:38,430 --> 01:22:40,171 [engines roaring] 1628 01:22:40,476 --> 01:22:43,131 ? 1629 01:22:44,088 --> 01:22:45,090 - [man] Houston now controlling 1630 01:22:45,134 --> 01:22:46,309 the flight of Atlantis. 1631 01:22:48,050 --> 01:22:49,659 The space shuttle spreads its wings one final time. 1632 01:22:52,792 --> 01:22:55,230 ? 1633 01:22:59,364 --> 01:23:00,627 - [Maj. Bolden] I have been with the shuttle 1634 01:23:00,671 --> 01:23:02,716 from almost its very first day. 1635 01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,328 And--and I can remember sitting with her a few times, 1636 01:23:05,676 --> 01:23:08,025 uh, sharing tears as we recognize the fact 1637 01:23:08,069 --> 01:23:10,028 that we were about to bring down the curtain 1638 01:23:10,072 --> 01:23:12,770 on something that had been absolutely incredible 1639 01:23:12,813 --> 01:23:15,033 in fulfilling a dream that she had 1640 01:23:15,077 --> 01:23:18,341 for making space available for all people. 1641 01:23:20,386 --> 01:23:22,171 [sonic booms] 1642 01:23:22,387 --> 01:23:24,086 ? 1643 01:23:24,128 --> 01:23:26,001 - [Announcer] Piercing the predawn sky 1644 01:23:26,043 --> 01:23:27,740 as the space shuttle announces its arrival at the launch site 1645 01:23:27,784 --> 01:23:30,265 with its signature sound of twin sonic booms. 1646 01:23:33,747 --> 01:23:37,011 The space shuttle pulls into port for the last time, 1647 01:23:37,273 --> 01:23:39,796 its voyage at an end. 1648 01:23:40,537 --> 01:23:42,146 - [Maj. Bolden] Everybody thinks about the space shuttle 1649 01:23:42,364 --> 01:23:45,106 as this incredible feat of technology. 1650 01:23:45,542 --> 01:23:49,328 I believe that the shuttle's legacy forever will be 1651 01:23:49,372 --> 01:23:52,765 the fact that it opened up the world of space exploration 1652 01:23:52,810 --> 01:23:55,117 in a way that I don't think many of us, 1653 01:23:55,159 --> 01:23:57,728 short of Nichelle Nichols, had dreamed. 1654 01:23:57,770 --> 01:24:02,819 - The space program will go on and on and on 1655 01:24:02,863 --> 01:24:07,042 because our space program is our future. 1656 01:24:07,868 --> 01:24:10,697 We haven't even begun to begin. 1657 01:24:10,740 --> 01:24:12,743 ? 1658 01:24:20,403 --> 01:24:24,449 - It's very easy to look along a path 1659 01:24:24,493 --> 01:24:26,190 that someone else has taken. 1660 01:24:26,452 --> 01:24:27,453 It's a very different thing 1661 01:24:29,238 --> 01:24:30,282 when you're trying to do it alone the very first time. 1662 01:24:31,717 --> 01:24:33,764 Without people like Nichelle Nichols, 1663 01:24:34,155 --> 01:24:36,462 a lot of us would not have been able to follow 1664 01:24:36,766 --> 01:24:38,463 those extraordinary footsteps. 1665 01:24:39,899 --> 01:24:41,206 - We can come together 1666 01:24:42,293 --> 01:24:44,774 and be what Dr. King called the beloved community. 1667 01:24:45,167 --> 01:24:46,211 We're one people. 1668 01:24:46,255 --> 01:24:47,256 We're one family. 1669 01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,911 We all must learn to live together 1670 01:24:50,954 --> 01:24:53,305 on this little piece of real estate we call Earth, 1671 01:24:53,349 --> 01:24:54,479 on this little planet. 1672 01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:57,875 - I think in the not-too-distant future, 1673 01:24:58,484 --> 01:25:01,095 things are really, really, really gonna change. 1674 01:25:01,792 --> 01:25:03,010 - What is a change in society? 1675 01:25:03,054 --> 01:25:08,103 A change is you cannot even imagine a world 1676 01:25:08,625 --> 01:25:10,104 any other way. 1677 01:25:11,235 --> 01:25:13,804 That's when you know you've really changed. 1678 01:25:14,500 --> 01:25:17,807 - Human mind power and the best of the best 1679 01:25:18,199 --> 01:25:22,899 is...is essential to the exploration of space. 1680 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,903 - Space flight is for philosophical reasons. 1681 01:25:25,945 --> 01:25:28,166 It's for answering the big questions. 1682 01:25:28,210 --> 01:25:29,211 It's what's out there, 1683 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:31,516 and what is humanity's place there. 1684 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,823 - Space is not the final frontier. 1685 01:25:34,216 --> 01:25:35,826 The final frontier is the human soul. 1686 01:25:35,868 --> 01:25:38,524 Space is where we can meet the challenge. 1687 01:25:39,220 --> 01:25:40,265 - That's the mission. 1688 01:25:40,309 --> 01:25:41,875 It's up to the greatness in us. 1689 01:25:42,398 --> 01:25:44,181 Mindful of our fallibility 1690 01:25:44,399 --> 01:25:47,229 and with knowledge of that fallibility, 1691 01:25:47,489 --> 01:25:50,448 try to prepare for those issues to come up 1692 01:25:50,493 --> 01:25:52,408 as we push forward, 1693 01:25:52,972 --> 01:25:56,238 boldly go where no one has gone before. 1694 01:25:56,976 --> 01:26:01,503 - This is your NASA, a space agency embarked on a mission 1695 01:26:01,546 --> 01:26:05,855 to improve the quality of life on planet Earth right now. 1696 01:26:06,682 --> 01:26:10,860 - What a public service Nichelle rendered for this country. 1697 01:26:11,514 --> 01:26:14,472 - It is so inspiring for our sons and daughters 1698 01:26:14,516 --> 01:26:17,911 to learn from the examples of Nichelle Nichols 1699 01:26:17,954 --> 01:26:22,264 as a testament as to what one person can do 1700 01:26:22,306 --> 01:26:25,484 when they believe in the spirit of diversity 1701 01:26:25,528 --> 01:26:28,444 and the betterment for all of our children. 1702 01:26:29,444 --> 01:26:31,447 - All I can do is think of Nichelle Nichols 1703 01:26:32,274 --> 01:26:35,581 as a force of nature unto herself. 1704 01:26:36,582 --> 01:26:38,889 - Nichelle Nichols, Lieutenant Uhura 1705 01:26:39,585 --> 01:26:42,675 has and will always be a woman in motion. 1706 01:26:43,372 --> 01:26:45,591 - She went into it to be an actress. 1707 01:26:45,635 --> 01:26:46,896 She ended up changing the world. 1708 01:26:47,288 --> 01:26:49,899 ? 1709 01:27:31,070 --> 01:27:34,248 ? 1710 01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,280 - [Nichols] Long before they hired me, 1711 01:28:06,976 --> 01:28:09,675 I said if they let me in the door, 1712 01:28:09,719 --> 01:28:14,288 I will open it so wide, they will see the world. 1713 01:28:15,114 --> 01:28:19,423 And to know that I had really touched 1714 01:28:20,643 --> 01:28:24,689 the future by changing the present, 1715 01:28:26,649 --> 01:28:29,086 by just believing and being me 1716 01:28:30,173 --> 01:28:34,003 and saying we have-- we have lifted off 1717 01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:38,313 and we'll never be earth-bound again, 1718 01:28:40,706 --> 01:28:46,059 and suddenly, there I was, doing exactly what I fantasized. 1719 01:28:47,190 --> 01:28:48,018 It became a reality. 1720 01:28:51,412 --> 01:28:52,543 - [Miles] Whoo, cut. 1721 01:28:52,849 --> 01:28:53,545 [tone beeps] 1722 01:28:56,025 --> 01:28:58,462 ? 1723 01:29:14,173 --> 01:29:18,047 ? 1724 01:29:41,244 --> 01:29:42,202 - [recording engineer] Nichelle Nichols, 1725 01:29:42,246 --> 01:29:43,073 "Fly Me to the Moon." 1726 01:29:43,639 --> 01:29:45,554 ? 1727 01:29:49,645 --> 01:29:52,474 ? Fly me to the moon 1728 01:29:52,516 --> 01:29:56,826 ? And let me play among the stars ? 1729 01:29:57,565 --> 01:30:01,091 ? Let me see what spring is like ? 1730 01:30:01,134 --> 01:30:05,225 ? On Jupiter and Mars 1731 01:30:05,269 --> 01:30:08,097 ? In other words 1732 01:30:08,577 --> 01:30:11,188 ? Hold my hand 1733 01:30:13,277 --> 01:30:16,105 ? In other words 1734 01:30:16,671 --> 01:30:19,501 ? Baby, kiss me 1735 01:30:21,546 --> 01:30:24,243 ? Fill my heart with song 1736 01:30:24,287 --> 01:30:28,814 ? And let me sing forevermore 1737 01:30:29,554 --> 01:30:32,644 ? You are all I long for 1738 01:30:32,688 --> 01:30:36,779 ? All I worship and adore 1739 01:30:37,301 --> 01:30:40,130 ? In other words 1740 01:30:40,521 --> 01:30:44,569 ? Please be true 1741 01:30:44,829 --> 01:30:48,529 ? In other words 1742 01:30:48,573 --> 01:30:51,140 ? I love you 1743 01:31:07,896 --> 01:31:09,463 ? Bay-baby 1744 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,559 ? Ba ba boo dee 1745 01:31:25,609 --> 01:31:28,177 ? Fill my heart with song 1746 01:31:28,569 --> 01:31:32,661 ? Let me sing forevermore 1747 01:31:33,574 --> 01:31:36,621 ? You are all I long for 1748 01:31:37,012 --> 01:31:40,756 ? All I worship and adore 1749 01:31:41,582 --> 01:31:44,194 ? In other words 1750 01:31:44,628 --> 01:31:48,720 ? Please be true 1751 01:31:49,198 --> 01:31:52,898 ? In other words 1752 01:31:53,332 --> 01:31:56,902 ? In other words 1753 01:31:57,685 --> 01:32:00,557 ? Fill my heart with song 1754 01:32:00,601 --> 01:32:04,649 ? And let me sing forevermore 1755 01:32:05,649 --> 01:32:08,653 ? You are all I long for 1756 01:32:08,871 --> 01:32:12,657 ? All I worship and adore 1757 01:32:13,353 --> 01:32:16,313 ? In other words 1758 01:32:16,355 --> 01:32:20,664 ? Please be true 1759 01:32:21,230 --> 01:32:24,234 ? In other words 1760 01:32:24,712 --> 01:32:30,935 ? I love you 1761 01:32:31,328 --> 01:32:33,895 ? Hey, yeah 1762 01:32:33,939 --> 01:32:35,898 [laughs] 1763 01:32:36,942 --> 01:32:38,203 - [man over intercom] Wow. - [group cheering] 1764 01:32:38,247 --> 01:32:39,336 - [man 2 over intercom] Oh, that's gold! 1765 01:32:39,378 --> 01:32:40,945 [group applauds] 1766 01:32:42,426 --> 01:32:43,905 - [man over intercom] Whoo! 1767 01:32:43,948 --> 01:32:44,689 I'm gonna have you sing me to sleep tonight. 1768 01:32:44,733 --> 01:32:46,256 [laughter] 1769 01:32:46,298 --> 01:32:47,256 - Okay. 1770 01:32:47,953 --> 01:32:50,738 ? 1771 01:33:35,871 --> 01:33:39,309 ? 126227

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