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- So I'm India Hicks,
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and I happen to be
Prince Charles' goddaughter.
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♪
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- I am Mervyn Wycherley.
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I was head chef
to the Prince of Wales
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and Lady Diana Spencer.
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[camera shutters clicking]
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- Squadron Leader
Graham Laurie.
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I've flown him 760-odd times.
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- Petronella Wyatt.
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I've known Camilla,
the Queen Consort,
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since I was 17.
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[camera shutter clicking]
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- I've been a royal journalist
for 30 years.
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- I'm Johnny Stonborough,
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and I was at school
with the king.
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The other boys had decided,
quotes,
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"That they were going to
'Get Prince Charles.'"
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He was the boy
who walked alone.
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- We'd had a friendship
and a relationship.
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They called me the blonde.
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- No other of his girlfriends
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have ever really
talked to the press,
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and that's what turned me
into the kiss-and-tell
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and the blabber girl.
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- I actually had thought
I was going...
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[laughing] As his girlfriend
for the weekend,
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but when I got there,
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Camilla Parker Bowles
was there.
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[crowd shouting]
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- I'm speaking now
about all this
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because I've said nothing
for 40 years,
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and I've just listened
so often to lies.
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And it's quite frustrating.
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- Both princes begged their
father to not marry Camilla.
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- This is the woman
that Diana would've been
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crying her eyes out about
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who called her
"the Rottweiler."
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- They're a spectacularly
dysfunctional family.
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- Right now we're seeing
anotherdisastrous scandal
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swirling around.
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- There are even reports
he did say,
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"I wish you boys would stop
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making my final years
miserable."
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[tense music]
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[birds chirping]
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- It was the end-of-season
polo dance
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for Cirencester Polo Club.
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The dance floor was
in the middle like this,
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and then the tables were round.
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[soft piano music]
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Camilla and Andrew's table
was at the front.
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I did notice
when I was dancing
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that Prince Charles was,
a lot of the time,
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dancing with Camilla.
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A lot of people were
slightly surprised
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to see how often
they were on the dance floor
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and that Andrew was just
sort of sitting at the table.
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- Yes, people did
spot Charles and Camilla
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having a fun sort of cuddle,
as it were.
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At that time,
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he'd just started
dating Diana Spencer,
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so I doubt
he would have thought
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he was doing anything
terribly wrong if he...
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kissed Camilla at a party.
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[energetic rock music]
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[cheering]
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♪
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- Naval Lieutenant
Prince Charles
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is taking to the air again,
this time in a helicopter.
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He's already qualified
as a jet pilot with the RAF.
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- Being the Prince of Wales
and single,
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he had this great reputation
of being very eligible
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and quite rightly so.
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- The prince has clocked up
almost 1,000 flying hours
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in a variety of aircraft.
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- He was a man of action.
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You know, he flew well,
he played polo well.
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Prince Philip
was the hard man.
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Prince Charles was much
more sensitive and softer,
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but still
did them equally as well.
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[waves crashing]
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- He was handsome, charming,
the Prince of Wales.
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I think he had a lot
of girlfriends.
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He would tell me
about women
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that would come
rushing up to him,
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like when he was in Australia,
and would kiss him.
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[film projector whirring]
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[birds chirping]
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- Has anyone seen
the black dog at all?
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- He was playing catch
with an apple.
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- Ugh.
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She's just obsessed
with apples.
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- Well played, sir!
[crowd cheering]
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- I was given the job
at the Guards Polo Club
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as assistant manager.
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And that's when Charles would
come up from Windsor Castle
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and come and play.
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[indistinct PA commentary]
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He was about to become 30,
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and I was going
through an early divorce
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at a very young age, at 23.
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And so I just think
we just sort of
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gravitated towards each other.
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♪
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Here are some photos
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of when I was introduced
to Prince Charles.
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And I do actually feel there
was an instant attraction.
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I might be imagining it,
but looking at it,
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it does feel as if there's a
little bit of something there.
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So that was
our first introduction.
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And it was a definite
turning point in my life.
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What I thought
about Prince Charles,
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or King Charles,
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is that he looked
quite a lonely figure.
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So I thought that
I could introduce him
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into the social life
of the Guards Polo Club.
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So I suggested one day
that he came back
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and had drinks in the clubhouse
after the polo
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and meet some of the players.
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So he said,
"OK, I'll do that."
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[upbeat music]
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One of my bosses had thought
it would be quite quirky
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to have Pimm's
in a plastic container.
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And so I was in the room,
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but didn't sort of
mix with him.
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And then I saw
that he was about to go,
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so I rushed around the back
and said,
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"And how did that go?"
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[upbeat orchestral music]
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And it was fascinating,
actually.
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And he drew himself up,
and he looked at me and said,
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"I'm not used to drinking
out of a container."
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And I went, "Oh, my God!"
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And that was virtually
almost the end
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of him coming in
to have drinks.
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[laughs]
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I was also given a cottage
up at Windsor Castle
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close to the polo club,
so I was very much on tap.
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We were just very comfy.
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We could talk about anything.
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He's a very
charismatic person.
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He's very cheeky.
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And flirtatious,
I think is the word, you know.
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I walked in wearing a shirt
with 11 cockerels,
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you know, those sort
of farmer sweatshirts.
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And he didn't realize
that Andrew,
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my husband at the time,
was behind.
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And he--as I walked through
the door, he said,
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"Good God, is that
how many cocks you've had?"
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[laughs]
You can't put that, cockerels.
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And then he looked up,
and he saw Andrew's face.
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And he knew that he--
yes.
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Um, but it was just funny,
ha, ha.
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Prince Charles had
said he very much
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liked my company
at Windsor Castle.
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And then I did go
and have dinner.
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I think that's about
all I'm going to say.
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[laughs]
And you know.
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Yeah.
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[upbeat funky music]
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- He had lots and lots
of girlfriends.
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I don't think any
of them really came close
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to the one girlfriend
he had met years before.
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That was Camilla Parker Bowles.
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My name is Robert Jobson.
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I've been a royal journalist
for 30 years.
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I've met and covered the
king's story for all that time.
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I've interviewed him
a number of times.
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And I've been invited down
to Highgrove,
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to his garden,
and it's a wonderful garden.
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[stately orchestral music]
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Charles met Camilla--
she was older than him.
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It was when he was
at university.
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And Charles was single,
completely smitten by Camilla.
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- My name is Petronella Wyatt,
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and I have known Camilla,
the Queen Consort,
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since I was 17.
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[soft dramatic music]
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The nature
of that relationship
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was a sort of passion that
sprang up on Charles' side.
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Camilla reminded Charles
of the queen mother.
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He adored the queen mother.
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I think the queen
wasn't demonstrative
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because of her personality.
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His parents were away
such a lot
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because the queen
became queen very young
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and as a result,
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she missed Charles' childhood.
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And there's that story
he often told about his mother
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coming back from a very,
very long tour.
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And he rushes onto
the royal yacht to greet her,
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hoping for a hug.
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And she just holds out
her hand to be shaken.
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I think Camilla was
a very cozy person,
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and so was the queen mother.
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He felt more comfortable
with slightly older people.
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When a young man
has his own emotional problems,
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he generally tends
to go for somebody
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who's slightly more mature.
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Camilla was fond of Charles.
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I don't even know
how far it went.
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Nobody really knows
how far it went.
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But I think she found him
a bit immature,
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and I think she wasn't
in love with him then.
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[flowing piano music]
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[ship's horn blows]
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- Putting to sea
on a six-month tour
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of the West Indies,
Sub-Lieutenant Prince Charles
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reports to his new ship,
HMS "Minerva."
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- The next stage of his career
was with the Royal Navy.
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And he was being posted on
a tour out in the Caribbean.
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Charles and Camilla dated
for a few months,
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and certainly
he was in love with her
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and even took her on a tour
of the ship before he departed.
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He was in the West Indies,
I think,
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when he heard that
she was getting married
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to Andrew Parker Bowles,
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so he was pretty devastated
at that.
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♪
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And he was definitely
brokenhearted.
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There's no doubt about that.
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[flowing orchestral music]
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- Charles obviously had
a great relationship
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with Earl Mountbatten.
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He was his great uncle,
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but they all called
him Uncle Dickie.
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He was there to guide him
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in most areas
of his young life.
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And there was a warmth
between them
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that he didn't
actually experience
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with the queen
and Prince Philip.
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Well, I think Mountbatten
said basically
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that after Camilla,
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that Charles should
sow his wild oats,
263
00:12:10,902 --> 00:12:12,870
go out with as many girls
as possible,
264
00:12:12,904 --> 00:12:14,250
and just enjoy himself,
265
00:12:14,285 --> 00:12:15,769
and don't even
consider marriage
266
00:12:15,804 --> 00:12:18,220
until
he was looking towards 30.
267
00:12:18,254 --> 00:12:21,741
♪
268
00:12:21,775 --> 00:12:25,123
- You're the most eligible
bachelor in the world.
269
00:12:25,158 --> 00:12:27,401
You're the Prince of Wales.
270
00:12:27,436 --> 00:12:30,094
Women threw themselves at him.
271
00:12:30,128 --> 00:12:34,374
♪
272
00:12:38,688 --> 00:12:40,483
- I've got a letter
that Prince Charles wrote to me
273
00:12:40,518 --> 00:12:43,590
in 1975
when he was on HMS "Hermes."
274
00:12:43,624 --> 00:12:45,143
And he just writes,
"My dear Janet,
275
00:12:45,178 --> 00:12:46,593
"what a glorious evening
that was yesterday.
276
00:12:46,627 --> 00:12:48,768
"Thank you a thousand times
for making it
277
00:12:48,802 --> 00:12:50,770
"such a fun and particularly
special evening.
278
00:12:50,804 --> 00:12:52,944
"I loved every minute
of my night out in Montreal
279
00:12:52,979 --> 00:12:56,154
with the most exquisite
Welsh girl I've ever met."
280
00:12:56,189 --> 00:12:58,122
[chuckles]
I laughed.
281
00:12:58,156 --> 00:13:00,227
I said, "But Charles, how many
Welsh girls have you dated?"
282
00:13:00,262 --> 00:13:01,470
So he laughed.
283
00:13:01,504 --> 00:13:02,747
It was very flattering,
of course.
284
00:13:02,782 --> 00:13:03,921
It was lovely.
285
00:13:03,955 --> 00:13:05,612
I haven't read them
for about 25 years,
286
00:13:05,646 --> 00:13:07,717
and actually, it shows you
the essence of who he is.
287
00:13:07,752 --> 00:13:14,794
♪
288
00:13:16,312 --> 00:13:17,935
In the 1970s in Montreal,
289
00:13:17,969 --> 00:13:20,420
I was working
for the British consulate
290
00:13:20,454 --> 00:13:22,042
and met so many
amazing people,
291
00:13:22,077 --> 00:13:24,907
including the Prince of Wales,
of course.
292
00:13:24,942 --> 00:13:27,668
♪
293
00:13:27,703 --> 00:13:30,257
His ship had come
in to Montreal to dock,
294
00:13:30,292 --> 00:13:32,501
and they were going
to give a reception onboard.
295
00:13:32,535 --> 00:13:34,537
So naturally,
we were all invited.
296
00:13:34,572 --> 00:13:37,437
[dramatic orchestral music]
297
00:13:37,471 --> 00:13:39,888
We were in line
to be presented to him.
298
00:13:39,922 --> 00:13:41,855
And then he got to me.
299
00:13:41,890 --> 00:13:44,306
And I said, "I hope you get
a chance to see Montreal,
300
00:13:44,340 --> 00:13:45,997
and I hope you really
enjoy it."
301
00:13:46,032 --> 00:13:48,206
He said, "Well, I will
if you'll show it to me."
302
00:13:48,241 --> 00:13:49,863
So that's how it started.
303
00:13:49,898 --> 00:13:51,278
And then he said, "I'll
have my private secretary
304
00:13:51,313 --> 00:13:52,866
call you tomorrow,"
305
00:13:52,901 --> 00:13:54,764
♪
306
00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:56,249
He did actually contact me,
307
00:13:56,283 --> 00:13:57,767
and I showed him
a lot of Montreal.
308
00:13:57,802 --> 00:14:00,632
We had a sort of drive around.
309
00:14:00,667 --> 00:14:03,221
And that's how
our friendship started.
310
00:14:03,256 --> 00:14:06,224
[jazzy music]
311
00:14:06,259 --> 00:14:10,919
♪
312
00:14:10,953 --> 00:14:12,472
We liked the same things.
313
00:14:12,506 --> 00:14:14,405
We both loved the movies
that we had chosen,
314
00:14:14,439 --> 00:14:15,406
which was "The Pink Panther."
315
00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,786
We're both big fans.
316
00:14:16,821 --> 00:14:21,584
♪
317
00:14:21,619 --> 00:14:23,897
So we went in
to see the movie.
318
00:14:23,932 --> 00:14:25,761
And the
Royal Canadian Mounted Police,
319
00:14:25,795 --> 00:14:27,556
they were just
protecting the whole building
320
00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:29,903
while he was in there,
which was quite funny.
321
00:14:29,938 --> 00:14:34,632
- The Royal Canadian
Mounted Police, the RCMP,
322
00:14:34,665 --> 00:14:38,463
the Mounties,
5,400 men who maintain the law
323
00:14:38,498 --> 00:14:40,914
superbly well in Canada.
324
00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:48,025
♪
325
00:14:48,473 --> 00:14:50,096
- We had lots of laughter,
326
00:14:50,130 --> 00:14:53,409
and I find him very,
very easy to get along with.
327
00:14:53,444 --> 00:14:56,412
♪
328
00:14:56,447 --> 00:14:57,758
He came to my apartment.
329
00:14:57,793 --> 00:15:01,245
And we had the RCMP
outside my door,
330
00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:04,144
on the roof of the building,
on the fire escape.
331
00:15:04,179 --> 00:15:06,422
So it was not exactly
an intimate evening,
332
00:15:06,457 --> 00:15:07,941
but anyway it was really nice.
333
00:15:07,976 --> 00:15:10,323
And they'd given him
a panic button so that we
334
00:15:10,357 --> 00:15:12,014
would have some time together.
335
00:15:12,049 --> 00:15:14,327
And we just had
a very, very fun time.
336
00:15:14,361 --> 00:15:15,638
It was really lovely.
337
00:15:15,673 --> 00:15:18,814
[soft music]
338
00:15:18,848 --> 00:15:25,648
♪
339
00:15:25,683 --> 00:15:27,098
We were very careful
about the press
340
00:15:27,133 --> 00:15:28,962
because they would
get word of things,
341
00:15:28,997 --> 00:15:30,860
and they would, you know,
be hounding us everywhere.
342
00:15:30,895 --> 00:15:34,554
But we were very lucky,
very lucky to keep it quiet.
343
00:15:34,588 --> 00:15:36,038
- Been waiting a long time?
344
00:15:36,073 --> 00:15:38,316
- Yes, sir.
- Sorry we were late.
345
00:15:38,351 --> 00:15:40,491
[laughter]
346
00:15:40,525 --> 00:15:43,839
- The first time
we met was 1975.
347
00:15:43,873 --> 00:15:47,153
After he left,
he went to the Arctic.
348
00:15:47,187 --> 00:15:48,499
[chuckles]
349
00:15:48,533 --> 00:15:49,879
He looks so good there,
doesn't he?
350
00:15:49,914 --> 00:15:52,882
I mean, I think he looks
pretty handsome there.
351
00:15:52,917 --> 00:15:56,093
I love it when he comes out
and he deflates it.
352
00:15:56,127 --> 00:15:59,096
[laughter]
353
00:15:59,130 --> 00:16:02,099
♪
354
00:16:02,133 --> 00:16:04,964
[laughs]
355
00:16:04,998 --> 00:16:07,000
- Very warm.
- Can you tell us how it was?
356
00:16:07,035 --> 00:16:08,691
- It was plenty.
357
00:16:08,726 --> 00:16:12,626
It was a very interesting day,
but bloody cold.
358
00:16:13,662 --> 00:16:15,595
- He is so funny.
359
00:16:15,629 --> 00:16:17,286
- Well, I'll tell you, we put
the air in here, you see.
360
00:16:17,321 --> 00:16:19,081
It will now do an amazing--
361
00:16:19,116 --> 00:16:22,084
[air hissing]
362
00:16:22,119 --> 00:16:25,156
[laughter]
363
00:16:28,297 --> 00:16:31,300
[cheers and applause]
364
00:16:31,335 --> 00:16:34,476
- I mean, you see
how funny he is.
365
00:16:34,510 --> 00:16:37,755
It just goes to show the sense
of humor that he's got.
366
00:16:37,789 --> 00:16:40,068
And I think
he's still like that.
367
00:16:40,102 --> 00:16:42,898
There's a really fun side
of the Prince of Wales.
368
00:16:42,932 --> 00:16:43,968
He's very jolly.
369
00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:46,626
He's not
in the least bit closed.
370
00:16:46,660 --> 00:16:48,214
And that's what
people don't realize.
371
00:16:48,248 --> 00:16:51,217
[upbeat music]
372
00:16:51,251 --> 00:16:58,465
♪
373
00:17:03,884 --> 00:17:05,368
I knew that I was important
because I was
374
00:17:05,403 --> 00:17:07,992
getting letters all the time.
375
00:17:12,065 --> 00:17:13,825
Wherever he was, I would
phone Buckingham Palace,
376
00:17:13,859 --> 00:17:15,241
and they would page me
through to wherever
377
00:17:15,275 --> 00:17:17,208
he was in the world basically.
378
00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,800
Here's my letter
from the Bahamas.
379
00:17:22,834 --> 00:17:25,113
And he said that he had
just come in from the beach.
380
00:17:25,146 --> 00:17:27,907
And he writes to make myself
a delicious brown color
381
00:17:27,943 --> 00:17:31,464
and turning thoroughly
irresistible.
382
00:17:31,498 --> 00:17:34,018
"Can't wait to hear from you."
383
00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:35,502
And then he sent me
a great deal of love
384
00:17:35,537 --> 00:17:37,297
and a salty kiss
from the Bahamas.
385
00:17:37,332 --> 00:17:39,127
Charles.
It was lovely.
386
00:17:39,161 --> 00:17:41,474
I couldn't wait
to see him then.
387
00:17:41,508 --> 00:17:42,820
- Quite flirty then?
388
00:17:42,854 --> 00:17:44,304
- Oh, very flirty.
389
00:17:44,339 --> 00:17:46,168
Of course, he was very flirty
and very charming.
390
00:17:46,203 --> 00:17:51,725
And of course, you know, I just
loved getting them, of course.
391
00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,418
And these I haven't shared
with anybody, actually.
392
00:17:54,452 --> 00:17:57,593
These are
my private collection.
393
00:17:57,628 --> 00:17:59,319
[chuckles]
394
00:17:59,354 --> 00:18:02,322
[upbeat rock music]
395
00:18:02,357 --> 00:18:09,536
♪
396
00:18:22,584 --> 00:18:23,895
He'd asked me to come over
397
00:18:23,930 --> 00:18:26,208
because it
was the Queen's Jubilee.
398
00:18:26,243 --> 00:18:30,074
They called me the blonde,
the blonde that popped up.
399
00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:31,869
And then at one
of the polo matches,
400
00:18:31,903 --> 00:18:33,940
they said,
typical type of girlfriend--
401
00:18:33,974 --> 00:18:36,943
tall, and pretty,
and shy, standing back.
402
00:18:36,977 --> 00:18:38,703
But they didn't know my name.
403
00:18:38,738 --> 00:18:39,877
And he was very happy.
404
00:18:39,911 --> 00:18:41,223
He said, you know,
it's amazing how
405
00:18:41,258 --> 00:18:42,535
we've been able to do this.
I said, yes.
406
00:18:42,569 --> 00:18:45,538
[light music]
407
00:18:45,572 --> 00:18:48,748
♪
408
00:18:48,782 --> 00:18:52,027
He said, you know, why don't
you come down to Balmoral?
409
00:18:52,061 --> 00:18:55,099
So I flew into Aberdeen,
and then I was met in Aberdeen.
410
00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:57,170
And we were not staying
at the castle.
411
00:18:57,205 --> 00:18:59,828
We were staying in the little
guesthouse they have.
412
00:18:59,862 --> 00:19:02,624
♪
413
00:19:04,246 --> 00:19:06,559
And then unfortunately,
the press got wind
414
00:19:06,593 --> 00:19:08,388
of somebody there with him.
415
00:19:08,423 --> 00:19:10,114
And they sort of ruined
the whole thing
416
00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:12,496
by saying the blonde
popped up at Balmoral.
417
00:19:12,530 --> 00:19:14,636
♪
418
00:19:14,670 --> 00:19:16,258
Said you really have
to go back,
419
00:19:16,293 --> 00:19:18,295
he said, because now they've
got the long-range things.
420
00:19:18,329 --> 00:19:19,951
They can see us.
421
00:19:19,986 --> 00:19:23,783
[tense music]
422
00:19:23,817 --> 00:19:26,061
And so we both went
in different cars
423
00:19:26,095 --> 00:19:29,340
to say goodbye at
this little crossroads almost.
424
00:19:29,375 --> 00:19:31,170
He came out,
kissed me goodbye.
425
00:19:31,204 --> 00:19:34,311
It was very foggy.
It was like a Hollywood movie.
426
00:19:34,345 --> 00:19:35,795
♪
427
00:19:35,829 --> 00:19:37,452
I was really upset about it.
428
00:19:37,486 --> 00:19:38,936
And he said, oh, you know--
he gave me his handkerchief.
429
00:19:38,970 --> 00:19:40,109
He said,
"Oh, you will be all right."
430
00:19:40,144 --> 00:19:41,939
You know,
he wasn't good at that.
431
00:19:41,973 --> 00:19:44,493
I think the stiff upper lip
was very much what you did.
432
00:19:44,528 --> 00:19:46,392
And so showing emotion
like that was just something
433
00:19:46,426 --> 00:19:49,636
that he didn't know how
to react to.
434
00:19:49,671 --> 00:19:52,225
- Charles, when it
came to his emotions,
435
00:19:52,260 --> 00:19:54,710
was not the most
demonstrative person
436
00:19:54,745 --> 00:19:58,542
because Charles had
emotional needs of his own.
437
00:19:58,576 --> 00:20:00,682
- Charles was
a sensitive young man
438
00:20:00,716 --> 00:20:04,237
bullied by his father,
and his father was a man's man
439
00:20:04,272 --> 00:20:08,862
who felt that the King Charles
would have to toughen up.
440
00:20:08,897 --> 00:20:11,693
He was quite hard on his son
and the schools
441
00:20:11,727 --> 00:20:14,074
that he chose for his son.
442
00:20:14,834 --> 00:20:15,869
- Hi.
443
00:20:15,904 --> 00:20:17,733
I'm Johnny Stonbourough.
444
00:20:17,768 --> 00:20:21,254
And I was at school
with the king,
445
00:20:21,289 --> 00:20:23,256
or Prince Charles,
as he was then.
446
00:20:23,291 --> 00:20:25,189
♪
447
00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:28,330
Nearly four years,
we were in the same class
448
00:20:28,365 --> 00:20:31,713
together at Gordonstoun,
which is a boarding school
449
00:20:31,747 --> 00:20:33,128
up in the north of Scotland.
450
00:20:33,162 --> 00:20:35,199
Gordonstoun was famously tough.
451
00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:37,684
Some people actually called
it Colditz in a kilt,
452
00:20:37,719 --> 00:20:41,723
Colditz being a German
prisoner of war camp.
453
00:20:41,757 --> 00:20:43,276
There was a run every morning.
454
00:20:43,311 --> 00:20:44,795
You just wore
a pair of shorts.
455
00:20:44,829 --> 00:20:46,245
Didn't matter what
the weather was.
456
00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:48,385
And this is
the north of Scotland.
457
00:20:48,419 --> 00:20:50,456
A cold shower,
not necessarily because you
458
00:20:50,490 --> 00:20:54,011
had to have a cold shower, but
because the hot water ran out.
459
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,877
He was having a very bad time
460
00:20:57,911 --> 00:21:00,535
in the boarding house
that he was in.
461
00:21:00,569 --> 00:21:03,434
He was ill treated
by the senior boys.
462
00:21:03,469 --> 00:21:05,816
And I think
that the housemaster
463
00:21:05,850 --> 00:21:10,303
probably sanctioned it up
to a point to toughen him up.
464
00:21:10,338 --> 00:21:13,858
It's what his father
would have wanted.
465
00:21:13,893 --> 00:21:17,345
The first time I ever
actually saw, myself,
466
00:21:17,379 --> 00:21:20,175
what was happening
was playing rugby.
467
00:21:20,209 --> 00:21:22,936
And he was in the scrum.
468
00:21:22,971 --> 00:21:25,318
And a couple
of the other boys had decided,
469
00:21:25,353 --> 00:21:28,425
quotes, that they were going
to "get Prince Charles."
470
00:21:28,459 --> 00:21:31,807
And this involved punching him,
and pulling his ears,
471
00:21:31,842 --> 00:21:33,982
and kicking him.
472
00:21:34,845 --> 00:21:37,986
But you know, the amazing thing
is that he never responded.
473
00:21:38,020 --> 00:21:39,298
He never reacted.
474
00:21:39,332 --> 00:21:42,508
He was very stoic
about the whole thing.
475
00:21:42,542 --> 00:21:45,994
The never complaining,
never explaining
476
00:21:46,028 --> 00:21:49,480
is deeply ingrained in him.
477
00:21:49,515 --> 00:21:52,897
But it was almost impossible
for him to have friends
478
00:21:52,932 --> 00:21:57,316
because anybody who was deemed
to be a friend of the prince's
479
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:59,318
was teased brutally as well.
480
00:21:59,352 --> 00:22:02,044
So people tended to avoid it.
481
00:22:03,425 --> 00:22:06,704
He used to have a duffel coat,
a blue duffel coat.
482
00:22:06,739 --> 00:22:08,637
And he would have his hands
in his pockets.
483
00:22:08,672 --> 00:22:12,538
And he would pull
the duffel coat in front of him
484
00:22:12,572 --> 00:22:14,643
and be walking by himself.
485
00:22:14,678 --> 00:22:18,509
And that's very much an image
that I have of him.
486
00:22:18,544 --> 00:22:21,063
He was the boy
who walked alone.
487
00:22:34,283 --> 00:22:37,873
- Do you have any
thoughts about the lady
488
00:22:37,908 --> 00:22:39,288
that the Prince of Wales
should marry?
489
00:22:39,323 --> 00:22:42,015
Should she still be
a royal or titled lady?
490
00:22:42,050 --> 00:22:43,879
- Um...
[chuckles]
491
00:22:43,914 --> 00:22:48,401
Yes, well, I suppose--
you see, it's awfully difficult
492
00:22:48,436 --> 00:22:50,886
because you've got
to remember that,
493
00:22:50,921 --> 00:22:53,199
when you marry in my position,
494
00:22:53,233 --> 00:22:56,271
you're going to marry
somebody who perhaps one day
495
00:22:56,305 --> 00:22:57,997
is going to become queen.
496
00:22:58,031 --> 00:23:00,413
And you've got to choose
somebody very carefully,
497
00:23:00,448 --> 00:23:03,416
I think, who could
fulfill this particular role
498
00:23:03,451 --> 00:23:06,177
because people like you
perhaps would expect quite
499
00:23:06,212 --> 00:23:07,731
a lot from somebody like that.
500
00:23:07,765 --> 00:23:10,250
And it's got to be
somebody pretty special.
501
00:23:10,285 --> 00:23:16,222
- There were some rather
strange, medieval conditions
502
00:23:16,256 --> 00:23:18,397
for becoming Princess of Wales
503
00:23:18,431 --> 00:23:20,571
and marrying
the Prince of Wales.
504
00:23:20,606 --> 00:23:24,264
Whoever married Charles,
505
00:23:24,299 --> 00:23:27,440
she had to have
a sort of clean past.
506
00:23:27,475 --> 00:23:29,580
Obviously,
she couldn't be divorced.
507
00:23:29,615 --> 00:23:33,273
She had to be
pretty squeaky clean.
508
00:23:33,308 --> 00:23:36,760
Living with somebody meant
that you got scratched.
509
00:23:36,794 --> 00:23:38,106
It's another world.
510
00:23:38,140 --> 00:23:41,109
[soft music]
511
00:23:41,143 --> 00:23:42,938
♪
512
00:23:42,973 --> 00:23:44,768
- I was a divorcée.
513
00:23:44,802 --> 00:23:48,461
So the fact
that I was a forbidden fruit
514
00:23:48,496 --> 00:23:52,327
made our relationship so
much easier and more relaxed,
515
00:23:52,361 --> 00:23:56,296
and, you know, we could
just be ourselves totally.
516
00:23:56,331 --> 00:23:58,644
And he did confide in me
517
00:23:58,678 --> 00:24:01,405
about some of the ladies
that he brought to the polo
518
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,131
and everything like that,
you know.
519
00:24:03,165 --> 00:24:06,548
It was a lovely, easy,
open relationship, yeah.
520
00:24:06,583 --> 00:24:08,239
♪
521
00:24:08,274 --> 00:24:11,346
I think it slightly went
to my head in the end,
522
00:24:11,380 --> 00:24:12,796
but it was flattering.
523
00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:15,799
And the fact that it
wasn't just boom and--
524
00:24:15,833 --> 00:24:18,905
you know, we've been able
to talk about anything
525
00:24:18,940 --> 00:24:22,184
and all our problems.
526
00:24:22,219 --> 00:24:24,083
I didn't have any pretensions.
527
00:24:24,117 --> 00:24:25,878
I mean, there were jokes.
528
00:24:25,912 --> 00:24:30,883
My one boss had a T-shirt made,
"Jane for Queen," which was--
529
00:24:30,917 --> 00:24:33,851
[laughs]
Which was very funny.
530
00:24:33,886 --> 00:24:38,373
♪
531
00:24:38,407 --> 00:24:41,997
This is the first time
I think it hit the press.
532
00:24:42,032 --> 00:24:47,624
The press did start to take
photos and were aware of us.
533
00:24:47,658 --> 00:24:50,523
And I think that went
into the newspaper.
534
00:24:50,558 --> 00:24:54,423
Officials of the club thought
they should sort of protect him
535
00:24:54,458 --> 00:24:57,323
because I was a divorcée.
536
00:24:57,357 --> 00:25:00,533
They would always try
and keep him apart.
537
00:25:00,568 --> 00:25:02,397
I mean, the body language
is quite telling,
538
00:25:02,431 --> 00:25:03,398
isn't it, really?
539
00:25:03,432 --> 00:25:05,020
Of mine.
[laughs]
540
00:25:05,055 --> 00:25:08,541
You know, I don't look as if
I'm very worried by it all,
541
00:25:08,576 --> 00:25:12,303
you know--cigarette lighter
around the neck, you know.
542
00:25:12,338 --> 00:25:14,547
Must have said something
that made me laugh.
543
00:25:14,582 --> 00:25:17,101
I don't know.
Nice photos.
544
00:25:17,136 --> 00:25:18,896
[laughs]
545
00:25:18,931 --> 00:25:22,417
♪
546
00:25:22,451 --> 00:25:24,661
The golden rule
for Charles' girlfriends
547
00:25:24,695 --> 00:25:27,526
was to never speak
to the media
548
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,769
about their relationship
with the prince.
549
00:25:29,804 --> 00:25:32,565
As soon as that happened,
they were finished.
550
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,084
♪
551
00:25:34,118 --> 00:25:37,536
- A royal correspondent
to "The Sun," James Whitaker,
552
00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:42,471
who had become a bit of a sort
of friend, he rang me to say,
553
00:25:42,506 --> 00:25:46,130
Jane, I just want to tell you
that it's been blown
554
00:25:46,165 --> 00:25:49,789
to the newspapers
that you are the new girl
555
00:25:49,824 --> 00:25:51,929
in Prince Charles' life.
556
00:25:51,964 --> 00:25:54,932
And he said,
your headline's tomorrow.
557
00:25:54,967 --> 00:25:57,935
And he said, well,
can I come down and see you?
558
00:25:57,970 --> 00:26:01,629
And I just was so in shock
that I thought
559
00:26:01,663 --> 00:26:03,492
he was a friend at the time.
560
00:26:03,527 --> 00:26:06,012
And they came to the cottage.
561
00:26:06,047 --> 00:26:07,980
♪
562
00:26:08,014 --> 00:26:11,328
I just said, we just like
to sort of lark around.
563
00:26:11,362 --> 00:26:13,675
And I probably mentioned
something like, you know,
564
00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:16,022
we just like
to tease each other.
565
00:26:16,057 --> 00:26:18,507
[tense music]
566
00:26:18,542 --> 00:26:21,959
Unbeknown to me,
because it was a quote from me,
567
00:26:21,994 --> 00:26:24,134
that went into the press.
568
00:26:24,168 --> 00:26:25,963
♪
569
00:26:25,998 --> 00:26:29,070
And I was knifed because
it was a quote from me.
570
00:26:29,104 --> 00:26:36,180
♪
571
00:26:36,974 --> 00:26:39,632
That's what turned me
into the kiss-and-tell
572
00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:41,047
and the blabber girl.
573
00:26:41,082 --> 00:26:43,912
♪
574
00:26:43,947 --> 00:26:46,018
So it was a stitch-up.
575
00:26:46,052 --> 00:26:49,435
I think it went on for nearly
two weeks, the headlines.
576
00:26:49,469 --> 00:26:52,196
I was so mortified.
577
00:26:53,681 --> 00:26:55,890
They feel it's a betrayal.
578
00:26:57,098 --> 00:26:59,169
They do close ranks.
579
00:26:59,203 --> 00:27:04,450
He was probably told, stay
away because she's a chatter.
580
00:27:04,484 --> 00:27:08,040
But because he knew
that I'd been set up,
581
00:27:08,074 --> 00:27:10,042
he was always there
in the background,
582
00:27:10,076 --> 00:27:13,424
hoping that I was coping,
which I wasn't.
583
00:27:13,459 --> 00:27:15,634
[chuckles]
584
00:27:15,668 --> 00:27:18,637
I remember asking
for some help from one
585
00:27:18,671 --> 00:27:20,224
of the press secretaries.
586
00:27:20,259 --> 00:27:23,952
And he said,
you're in it on your own.
587
00:27:23,987 --> 00:27:26,921
So I did feel very vulnerable
at the time.
588
00:27:26,955 --> 00:27:28,854
[soft music]
589
00:27:28,888 --> 00:27:31,684
Of course, in hindsight
would have been nice,
590
00:27:31,719 --> 00:27:34,273
but don't put me
in that category.
591
00:27:34,307 --> 00:27:35,654
[laughs]
592
00:27:35,688 --> 00:27:38,760
I would not be
a suitable queen.
593
00:27:40,935 --> 00:27:43,075
[tense music]
594
00:27:43,109 --> 00:27:46,941
- In the late '70s,
there was a development
595
00:27:46,975 --> 00:27:50,427
when it came
to Camilla and Charles.
596
00:27:50,461 --> 00:27:52,947
♪
597
00:27:52,981 --> 00:27:55,328
Camilla was married,
598
00:27:55,363 --> 00:27:59,470
but her husband Andrew
did stray.
599
00:27:59,505 --> 00:28:02,819
And I think Camilla
was very hurt.
600
00:28:03,958 --> 00:28:07,375
So I think she gravitated
back towards Charles
601
00:28:07,409 --> 00:28:10,723
because I think she wanted
to feel that somebody
602
00:28:10,758 --> 00:28:13,450
wanted her like crazy.
603
00:28:13,484 --> 00:28:15,555
And that person was Charles
604
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:19,042
because he'd
never stopped wanting her.
605
00:28:19,076 --> 00:28:20,768
- My feeling is that,
actually, Charles
606
00:28:20,802 --> 00:28:22,562
was terribly
in love with Camilla,
607
00:28:22,597 --> 00:28:24,633
and I don't think
he experienced love like it.
608
00:28:24,668 --> 00:28:28,154
But again, he would know
that Camilla would be someone
609
00:28:28,189 --> 00:28:29,708
that he couldn't marry
610
00:28:29,742 --> 00:28:33,401
because she would have
to get divorced.
611
00:28:36,197 --> 00:28:39,372
[bells ringing]
612
00:28:41,512 --> 00:28:43,376
- Now that he was
31 years of age,
613
00:28:43,411 --> 00:28:46,552
great conjecture had already
been shown over when
614
00:28:46,586 --> 00:28:48,692
and who he was likely
to marry.
615
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:52,109
Often, it was headline news.
616
00:28:53,076 --> 00:28:55,941
- Prince Philip was definitely
pressuring him as well
617
00:28:55,975 --> 00:28:58,460
to get married and produce
an heir and a spare,
618
00:28:58,495 --> 00:29:00,152
as they say.
619
00:29:01,567 --> 00:29:03,258
He would say
to me oftentimes--
620
00:29:03,293 --> 00:29:04,777
you know, he'd say,
every time I meet someone,
621
00:29:04,812 --> 00:29:06,779
they're marrying me
off to them.
622
00:29:06,814 --> 00:29:08,885
And so the fact
that he was seen
623
00:29:08,919 --> 00:29:11,370
with a number
of different women, I think,
624
00:29:11,404 --> 00:29:12,854
was something
disconcerting to them.
625
00:29:12,889 --> 00:29:15,719
I think they wanted him
to just be settled.
626
00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:17,548
This was his fate,
and he was going
627
00:29:17,583 --> 00:29:19,412
to go along with it
because what
628
00:29:19,447 --> 00:29:21,863
was expected of him basically.
629
00:29:21,898 --> 00:29:25,764
♪
630
00:29:27,317 --> 00:29:30,285
[soft piano music]
631
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,150
[crowd shouting]
632
00:29:33,185 --> 00:29:38,811
♪
633
00:29:38,846 --> 00:29:43,782
- At that time, he'd just
started dating Diana Spencer.
634
00:29:46,612 --> 00:29:48,407
- Lady Diana
was born into a world
635
00:29:48,441 --> 00:29:52,514
of large country houses
set in huge rural estates.
636
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:55,345
She grew up in Park House
practically next door
637
00:29:55,379 --> 00:29:58,072
to the queen,
whom she called Aunt Lilibet.
638
00:29:58,106 --> 00:30:00,281
[cameras snapping]
639
00:30:00,315 --> 00:30:02,628
- The queen mother
was very old-fashioned.
640
00:30:02,662 --> 00:30:05,113
I think she kept pushing Diana
641
00:30:05,148 --> 00:30:07,667
because she was too young
to have a past.
642
00:30:07,702 --> 00:30:08,979
- Let's face it.
643
00:30:09,014 --> 00:30:11,430
She fitted
into the small itinerary
644
00:30:11,464 --> 00:30:12,638
that he had to work from.
645
00:30:12,672 --> 00:30:14,191
[chuckles]
646
00:30:15,227 --> 00:30:18,644
- Diana Spencer
had no experience
647
00:30:18,678 --> 00:30:20,888
with men whatsoever.
648
00:30:20,922 --> 00:30:26,065
And I was told
that their relationship
649
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:30,276
was not consummated
until their honeymoon.
650
00:30:30,311 --> 00:30:34,142
So there wouldn't have been
much of a sexual nature
651
00:30:34,177 --> 00:30:36,075
to the courtship.
652
00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:42,150
At the same time, Charles had
started seeing Camilla again.
653
00:30:42,185 --> 00:30:48,674
♪
654
00:30:48,708 --> 00:30:55,646
- Going back to when I was at
a polo dance in Cirencester.
655
00:30:57,131 --> 00:31:01,342
I did notice when I was
dancing that Prince Charles
656
00:31:01,376 --> 00:31:04,932
was a lot of the time
dancing with Camilla.
657
00:31:04,966 --> 00:31:07,831
They were in full view
of everyone, dancing,
658
00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:10,592
so it wasn't
as if they were trying
659
00:31:10,627 --> 00:31:13,630
to be furtive or anything.
660
00:31:13,664 --> 00:31:15,701
Were they having
an affair then?
661
00:31:15,735 --> 00:31:17,703
Well, I didn't know any
of that then.
662
00:31:17,737 --> 00:31:22,294
But subsequently,
it's come about that he
663
00:31:22,328 --> 00:31:25,021
wasn't exactly a saint.
664
00:31:25,055 --> 00:31:28,438
They've admitted it,
so it must have been going on.
665
00:31:28,472 --> 00:31:31,096
But yeah.
666
00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:32,821
I didn't know.
667
00:31:35,065 --> 00:31:36,895
- My name is Penny Junor.
668
00:31:36,929 --> 00:31:39,759
The king and queen,
I know them well
669
00:31:39,794 --> 00:31:42,555
because I've written
about them extensively
670
00:31:42,590 --> 00:31:43,971
for over 40 years now.
671
00:31:44,005 --> 00:31:45,834
I've been on tours with them.
672
00:31:45,869 --> 00:31:49,045
I've had lunch
with the Prince of Wales.
673
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:52,496
Kissing Camilla
on a public dance floor
674
00:31:52,531 --> 00:31:55,948
is extraordinarily indiscreet.
675
00:31:55,983 --> 00:31:58,330
I have no idea what was
going through Charles' mind.
676
00:31:58,364 --> 00:32:03,162
I imagine what goes through any
man or couple's mind when they
677
00:32:03,197 --> 00:32:06,338
are in love with each other,
in lust with each other,
678
00:32:06,372 --> 00:32:09,893
fancy the pants off each other.
679
00:32:09,928 --> 00:32:12,275
They had probably
had a few drinks.
680
00:32:12,309 --> 00:32:13,966
It was a party.
681
00:32:14,001 --> 00:32:18,384
And he possibly felt
that he was amongst friends.
682
00:32:20,007 --> 00:32:23,803
- Her husband Andrew
was doing the same thing.
683
00:32:23,838 --> 00:32:27,946
So I doubt
Charles would have thought
684
00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:30,086
he was doing anything
terribly wrong
685
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,813
if he kissed Camilla
at a party.
686
00:32:33,986 --> 00:32:37,817
But having said that,
all that did stop
687
00:32:37,852 --> 00:32:42,305
once he and Diana
became engaged.
688
00:32:42,339 --> 00:32:45,308
[dramatic music]
689
00:32:45,342 --> 00:32:48,035
♪
690
00:32:48,069 --> 00:32:51,003
- Then on the 24th
of February, 1981,
691
00:32:51,038 --> 00:32:52,936
from Buckingham Palace
came the news
692
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:55,559
that the whole world
had been waiting for.
693
00:32:55,594 --> 00:32:57,561
The heir
to the throne presented
694
00:32:57,596 --> 00:33:02,394
his beautiful bride to be,
Lady Diana Frances Spencer.
695
00:33:02,428 --> 00:33:04,741
[soft piano music]
696
00:33:04,775 --> 00:33:07,019
- I was in Bermuda on vacation.
697
00:33:07,054 --> 00:33:09,504
And he phoned me and said,
I promised I would tell you
698
00:33:09,539 --> 00:33:11,230
when I was going
to get engaged.
699
00:33:11,265 --> 00:33:13,025
He said, I'm not supposed
to tell anybody right now,
700
00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:15,027
but they're announcing
my engagement tomorrow.
701
00:33:15,062 --> 00:33:16,373
He said,
please don't say anything.
702
00:33:16,408 --> 00:33:17,857
I said, of course not.
703
00:33:17,892 --> 00:33:19,376
And I said, well,
I'm coming to your wedding.
704
00:33:19,411 --> 00:33:21,792
He said, of course.
[chuckles]
705
00:33:21,827 --> 00:33:25,037
- Can you find the words
to sum up how you feel today,
706
00:33:25,072 --> 00:33:26,521
both of you?
707
00:33:26,556 --> 00:33:29,593
- Difficult to find words,
isn't it, really?
708
00:33:29,628 --> 00:33:31,561
Just delighted and happy.
709
00:33:31,595 --> 00:33:35,772
And I'm amazed that she's been
brave enough to take me on.
710
00:33:35,806 --> 00:33:38,706
- [chuckles]
- And I suppose in love.
711
00:33:38,740 --> 00:33:40,397
- Course.
712
00:33:40,432 --> 00:33:42,917
- Whatever in love means.
- Yes.
713
00:33:44,574 --> 00:33:46,955
- Diana made a point about it,
714
00:33:46,990 --> 00:33:48,612
how shattered she was
by his answer,
715
00:33:48,647 --> 00:33:50,545
but I think
she was being very sensitive
716
00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:53,238
because she knew
about Camilla.
717
00:33:54,308 --> 00:33:56,931
[crowd cheering]
718
00:33:56,965 --> 00:34:00,038
- We now know
that she was also aware
719
00:34:00,072 --> 00:34:01,591
of Camilla Parker Bowles.
720
00:34:01,625 --> 00:34:03,696
I mean, had he said to her,
"OK, it's over.
721
00:34:03,731 --> 00:34:05,422
I will never see her again,"
722
00:34:05,457 --> 00:34:06,803
it would have been
a different thing.
723
00:34:06,837 --> 00:34:08,563
But he wasn't prepared
to do that.
724
00:34:08,598 --> 00:34:10,013
But I don't believe that
he would have married her
725
00:34:10,047 --> 00:34:12,152
or agreed
to marry her if he hadn't
726
00:34:12,188 --> 00:34:14,466
had strong feelings for her.
727
00:34:15,329 --> 00:34:18,297
[upbeat music]
728
00:34:18,331 --> 00:34:25,027
♪
729
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:26,547
[horn honking]
730
00:34:40,768 --> 00:34:43,667
- I remember getting the call
that I was going
731
00:34:43,702 --> 00:34:45,980
to be invited
to be a bridesmaid
732
00:34:46,014 --> 00:34:48,431
to Charles and Diana.
733
00:34:48,465 --> 00:34:50,536
And I remember thinking,
oh, God, I'm going
734
00:34:50,571 --> 00:34:51,951
to have to wear a dress.
735
00:34:51,985 --> 00:34:53,746
And I was quite a tomboy
at the time,
736
00:34:53,781 --> 00:34:55,300
and I would always be
riding bareback on ponies
737
00:34:55,333 --> 00:34:57,094
and climbing trees.
738
00:34:57,129 --> 00:34:59,890
And so the idea of wearing
a dress was a little worrying.
739
00:35:03,584 --> 00:35:05,896
So I'm India Hicks.
740
00:35:05,931 --> 00:35:09,555
And I happen to be
Prince Charles' goddaughter.
741
00:35:09,590 --> 00:35:11,523
Or should I say, King Charles.
742
00:35:11,557 --> 00:35:14,526
[light music]
743
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:21,774
♪
744
00:35:23,535 --> 00:35:25,192
The '80s was all about,
you know,
745
00:35:25,226 --> 00:35:29,575
puff balls, and taffeta,
and over-the-top-ness.
746
00:35:29,610 --> 00:35:32,026
And Diana wanted
a 25-foot train.
747
00:35:32,060 --> 00:35:35,271
No one else had ever
had a 25-foot train.
748
00:35:35,305 --> 00:35:39,896
And I had that job
of dealing with the train.
749
00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:44,728
And there is Diana with her
large and quite ailing father.
750
00:35:44,763 --> 00:35:46,454
And there wasn't much room
for all of that train.
751
00:35:46,489 --> 00:35:48,629
So by the time they opened
the door and they got her out,
752
00:35:48,663 --> 00:35:50,803
the bloody thing
was very crumpled.
753
00:35:50,838 --> 00:35:53,047
It was quite something.
754
00:35:53,081 --> 00:35:55,532
It did look amazing.
I mean, it did look amazing.
755
00:35:55,567 --> 00:35:57,293
All you really see
is my bum in the air
756
00:35:57,327 --> 00:35:58,570
because I spent most
of the time trying
757
00:35:58,604 --> 00:36:00,158
to sort that thing out.
758
00:36:00,192 --> 00:36:07,406
♪
759
00:36:13,032 --> 00:36:18,245
- This is a picture of Diana
coming down with her father.
760
00:36:18,279 --> 00:36:19,832
[camera snapping]
761
00:36:21,282 --> 00:36:23,595
And I can see
Camilla Parker Bowles
762
00:36:23,629 --> 00:36:26,356
looking across to Diana.
763
00:36:26,391 --> 00:36:28,703
And I know that Diana, when
she was coming down the aisle,
764
00:36:28,738 --> 00:36:30,118
she said she was
looking everywhere to see
765
00:36:30,153 --> 00:36:31,672
where she was
because she was sure
766
00:36:31,706 --> 00:36:32,914
she was going to be there.
767
00:36:32,949 --> 00:36:35,193
And of course, she was, so...
768
00:36:36,263 --> 00:36:40,128
Not a good way
to start your marriage.
769
00:36:40,163 --> 00:36:42,614
- I think Camilla,
she's a worldly, wise woman.
770
00:36:42,648 --> 00:36:44,063
She would have seen
771
00:36:44,098 --> 00:36:45,789
this beautiful, young girl
come along.
772
00:36:45,824 --> 00:36:47,998
She was clearly by that stage
in love with Charles
773
00:36:48,033 --> 00:36:50,794
and maybe thought there was
nothing wrong that he would
774
00:36:50,829 --> 00:36:52,865
have his wife,
they would have a few kids,
775
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,833
but she would still
have this role
776
00:36:54,867 --> 00:36:57,076
as the mistress in his life.
777
00:36:57,111 --> 00:37:00,804
And she felt confident
in that.
778
00:37:00,839 --> 00:37:03,635
And she was right because,
like it or loathe it,
779
00:37:03,669 --> 00:37:06,741
Charles was in love
with somebody else.
780
00:37:07,673 --> 00:37:11,332
- By the time Charles
and Diana walked up that aisle
781
00:37:11,367 --> 00:37:14,818
in St. Paul's Cathedral,
they both, I think,
782
00:37:14,853 --> 00:37:17,545
knew they were
making a mistake.
783
00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:20,652
Charles definitely did.
784
00:37:20,686 --> 00:37:23,310
[ominous music]
785
00:37:23,344 --> 00:37:25,173
Diana had changed.
786
00:37:25,208 --> 00:37:27,003
The minute
they became engaged,
787
00:37:27,037 --> 00:37:29,039
she became a different woman.
788
00:37:29,074 --> 00:37:32,664
The sweet, lovely,
funny, laughing girl
789
00:37:32,698 --> 00:37:35,494
turned into something
completely different.
790
00:37:35,529 --> 00:37:38,739
She had very much darker side.
791
00:37:39,912 --> 00:37:42,501
She was jealous.
She was enraged.
792
00:37:42,536 --> 00:37:44,296
She was in tears.
793
00:37:44,331 --> 00:37:47,368
He didn't know what
on earth had happened.
794
00:37:47,403 --> 00:37:50,406
I think he probably
always loved Camilla.
795
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,201
So to have her there,
goodness knows what thoughts
796
00:37:53,236 --> 00:37:56,204
must have been going through
his head--despair, probably,
797
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,554
but hope, hope that he was
going to make it all right.
798
00:38:00,588 --> 00:38:05,006
- I pronounce that they
be man and wife together.
799
00:38:05,041 --> 00:38:09,942
Those whom God
has joined together
800
00:38:09,977 --> 00:38:13,291
let no man put asunder.
801
00:38:14,775 --> 00:38:17,053
- And everybody was so happy.
802
00:38:17,087 --> 00:38:18,744
Nobody knew what was
actually happening.
803
00:38:18,779 --> 00:38:21,091
Nobody knew what was to come,
but that was the moment.
804
00:38:21,126 --> 00:38:24,129
And I think genuinely,
Charles and Diana thought,
805
00:38:24,163 --> 00:38:26,338
"We're gonna make a go of this.
It's gonna be OK."
806
00:38:29,790 --> 00:38:32,758
[upbeat orchestral music]
807
00:38:32,793 --> 00:38:34,691
♪
808
00:38:34,726 --> 00:38:37,315
- Highgrove Charles bought
when he was a bachelor
809
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:39,972
and was close-to-home farm
where he
810
00:38:40,007 --> 00:38:43,044
was going to farm organically.
811
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:45,288
And then he did all
the gardens himself.
812
00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:47,428
And so it became
very important
813
00:38:47,463 --> 00:38:50,224
to him as a sanctuary.
814
00:38:50,258 --> 00:38:52,985
And then, of course,
when he married Diana,
815
00:38:53,020 --> 00:38:56,195
they had that
as their country home.
816
00:38:57,127 --> 00:38:59,406
And they had
Kensington Palace,
817
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,443
which was
their London apartments.
818
00:39:02,478 --> 00:39:07,241
♪
819
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:12,315
- Mervyn Wycherley.
820
00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,075
I was head chef
to the Prince of Wales
821
00:39:14,110 --> 00:39:17,838
and Lady Diana Spencer
for 13 years
822
00:39:17,872 --> 00:39:20,703
and finished in '95.
823
00:39:20,737 --> 00:39:23,878
[upbeat electronic music]
824
00:39:23,913 --> 00:39:26,916
♪
825
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:29,712
The early years,
it was so exciting.
826
00:39:29,746 --> 00:39:31,541
It was an absolute buzz.
827
00:39:31,576 --> 00:39:33,854
I mean, I don't think they
even knew what had hit them,
828
00:39:33,888 --> 00:39:36,995
really,
with everything going on.
829
00:39:37,029 --> 00:39:41,206
But it worked, and they
got on enormously well.
830
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:44,934
Those first few years
were--it was great fun.
831
00:39:44,968 --> 00:39:50,042
♪
832
00:39:50,595 --> 00:39:53,287
- He had been the playboy,
the life,
833
00:39:53,321 --> 00:39:55,703
and so he was
the one in the photos.
834
00:39:55,738 --> 00:39:58,534
And then he married
this shy, little girl
835
00:39:58,568 --> 00:40:01,709
who turned into
an absolute megastar.
836
00:40:01,744 --> 00:40:06,093
And all the press wanted
was this very pretty girl.
837
00:40:06,127 --> 00:40:09,441
And I think he had his nose
slightly put out of joint.
838
00:40:09,476 --> 00:40:11,443
- Well, I'm not a glove puppet,
839
00:40:11,478 --> 00:40:13,376
so I can't answer for that,
I'm afraid.
840
00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:15,758
But I think you enjoyed it,
didn't you, darling?
841
00:40:15,792 --> 00:40:17,380
Be an idiot
if she didn't enjoy dancing
842
00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:19,313
with John Travolta,
wouldn't she?
843
00:40:19,347 --> 00:40:23,282
- I think he became a little
bit resentful of the superstar
844
00:40:23,317 --> 00:40:25,388
that he married.
845
00:40:27,010 --> 00:40:30,186
And she was the people's
darling, wasn't she?
846
00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:32,188
Whereas he was beginning
to come across
847
00:40:32,222 --> 00:40:33,948
as a bit more staid.
848
00:40:33,983 --> 00:40:37,296
♪
849
00:40:40,368 --> 00:40:42,716
- It was always the nanny's
way out was just,
850
00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:46,098
why don't you go and play
with Mervy down in the kitchen?
851
00:40:46,133 --> 00:40:47,617
[laughs]
852
00:40:47,652 --> 00:40:49,792
And they'd come down and have
a play in the kitchen.
853
00:40:49,826 --> 00:40:51,172
You can't keep them out.
854
00:40:51,207 --> 00:40:53,589
So they were very,
very different.
855
00:40:53,623 --> 00:40:57,213
William has always been more
reserved and thoughtful.
856
00:40:58,732 --> 00:41:02,598
One of the birthday parties,
she got a bouncy castle.
857
00:41:02,632 --> 00:41:05,601
We hired some bear suits,
five of them,
858
00:41:05,635 --> 00:41:07,188
and we all dressed up
in these bear suits.
859
00:41:07,223 --> 00:41:08,949
These kids were
playing on the bouncy.
860
00:41:08,983 --> 00:41:12,193
The bears went in,
throwing them all.
861
00:41:12,228 --> 00:41:14,126
And I don't know if you've
ever worn one of those things.
862
00:41:14,161 --> 00:41:15,611
You can't see a thing.
863
00:41:15,645 --> 00:41:18,890
I swung around, and I caught
William straight across.
864
00:41:18,924 --> 00:41:20,823
He flew to the other side.
865
00:41:20,857 --> 00:41:22,790
I thought, oh, God,
I've killed him.
866
00:41:22,825 --> 00:41:25,344
[laughs]
867
00:41:25,379 --> 00:41:27,208
None of the children realized,
but William,
868
00:41:27,243 --> 00:41:28,796
he looked at the shoes,
and he recognized
869
00:41:28,831 --> 00:41:30,557
the people's shoes.
870
00:41:30,591 --> 00:41:32,593
Quite an astute little devil.
871
00:41:36,735 --> 00:41:38,357
- My name is Ken Wharfe.
872
00:41:38,392 --> 00:41:40,152
I was the protection officer
of the late Diana,
873
00:41:40,187 --> 00:41:43,190
Princess of Wales,
from '87 until '93, '94.
874
00:41:43,362 --> 00:41:46,573
[soft music]
875
00:41:46,607 --> 00:41:47,919
I met the Prince of Wales,
876
00:41:47,953 --> 00:41:50,473
I mean,
on a sort of daily basis.
877
00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:52,855
When I first worked
with William and Harry--
878
00:41:52,889 --> 00:41:54,442
and they were five and three.
879
00:41:54,477 --> 00:41:56,341
They were young kids.
880
00:41:56,375 --> 00:41:58,516
I look back
at their early years,
881
00:41:58,550 --> 00:42:03,175
and Harry was very much
the joker, the entertainer.
882
00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:06,178
And that sort of didn't sit
very comfortable with William
883
00:42:06,213 --> 00:42:08,733
because, you know, Harry was
a bit more popular than me,
884
00:42:08,767 --> 00:42:10,666
you know,
and everybody knew that.
885
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:14,566
♪
886
00:42:14,601 --> 00:42:17,914
His Royal Highness
was always busy.
887
00:42:17,949 --> 00:42:20,365
The travel was enormous.
888
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:27,752
- There was a sense that
Charles wasn't always there.
889
00:42:29,754 --> 00:42:31,549
So the Prince of Wales
with two boys,
890
00:42:31,583 --> 00:42:34,586
I think they could be
quite difficult to handle.
891
00:42:35,311 --> 00:42:38,314
And old bodyguard or backup
who used to work for them
892
00:42:38,348 --> 00:42:42,076
was so infuriated once,
he fired a gun into a tree,
893
00:42:42,111 --> 00:42:43,837
you know,
fired a bullet into a tree
894
00:42:43,871 --> 00:42:45,355
and said if those two boys
had been born
895
00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:47,323
in the council
estates in South London,
896
00:42:47,357 --> 00:42:48,738
they'd be in care by now
897
00:42:48,773 --> 00:42:51,223
because they used
to just run amok.
898
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,020
- But the Prince of Wales,
he acknowledged
899
00:42:55,055 --> 00:42:57,298
that his two children
were much happier doing what
900
00:42:57,333 --> 00:42:59,749
Diana would arrange
for them...
901
00:42:59,784 --> 00:43:02,649
♪
902
00:43:02,683 --> 00:43:04,858
the go-karting,
the theme parks,
903
00:43:04,892 --> 00:43:07,999
the adventure holidays,
something that he
904
00:43:08,033 --> 00:43:10,173
wouldn't even think about.
905
00:43:11,968 --> 00:43:14,488
Yes, he did take his sons
on historical journeys
906
00:43:14,522 --> 00:43:18,009
to friends of his, but they
found at that particular time,
907
00:43:18,043 --> 00:43:20,356
you know, being with
their father rather boring
908
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:22,289
and not as exciting
as in the fun
909
00:43:22,323 --> 00:43:24,671
that their mother
could generate.
910
00:43:24,705 --> 00:43:28,951
♪
911
00:43:28,985 --> 00:43:32,161
- I think Charles
as a father was
912
00:43:32,195 --> 00:43:35,543
probably more hands-on
than his mother
913
00:43:35,578 --> 00:43:37,580
or father had been with him.
914
00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:42,654
But fundamentally,
one parents as one is parented.
915
00:43:42,689 --> 00:43:45,692
And his parents
were pretty aloof.
916
00:43:45,726 --> 00:43:49,972
He wasn't totally
stiff and cold,
917
00:43:50,006 --> 00:43:54,908
but his life has always
been work first probably
918
00:43:54,942 --> 00:43:56,703
and family second.
919
00:43:56,737 --> 00:44:00,258
The bottom line really is
that the Prince of Wales
920
00:44:00,292 --> 00:44:03,054
was a workaholic.
921
00:44:06,333 --> 00:44:08,438
- One particular morning,
I got a phone call,
922
00:44:08,473 --> 00:44:10,924
and Diana said,
"Can you come and see me?"
923
00:44:10,958 --> 00:44:12,684
She said, "I just wanted
to let you know, Ken.
924
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,791
"I wanted to tell you all
about my relationship,
925
00:44:15,825 --> 00:44:20,381
both with my husband and at
that time with James Hewitt."
926
00:44:22,142 --> 00:44:23,833
She told me
about the relationship
927
00:44:23,868 --> 00:44:26,353
that her husband
was having with Camilla.
928
00:44:26,387 --> 00:44:29,908
I remember asking--I said, "Do
you love the Prince of Wales?"
929
00:44:29,943 --> 00:44:31,323
She said,
"Yes, of course I do.
930
00:44:31,358 --> 00:44:34,119
Otherwise,
I wouldn't be here."
931
00:44:36,328 --> 00:44:39,469
And it was clear to me
that the Camilla issue
932
00:44:39,504 --> 00:44:42,265
was there
from the very beginning.
933
00:44:43,542 --> 00:44:47,132
And Diana was trying
desperately to work out how
934
00:44:47,167 --> 00:44:48,996
she was going to resolve this.
935
00:44:49,031 --> 00:44:52,275
But of course,
the matter was never resolved.
936
00:44:52,310 --> 00:44:54,726
And understandably,
there was much hatred
937
00:44:54,761 --> 00:44:56,935
for this other woman.
938
00:45:00,456 --> 00:45:02,596
- Squadron Leader
Graham Laurie.
939
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:08,464
From 1981 until 2000, I was
the prince's personal pilot.
940
00:45:10,362 --> 00:45:15,195
I've flown him 760-odd times.
941
00:45:16,161 --> 00:45:20,269
As regards Camilla,
I didn't ever fly her,
942
00:45:20,303 --> 00:45:25,101
but we did see her involvement
in certain trips
943
00:45:25,136 --> 00:45:27,725
when we went abroad.
944
00:45:27,759 --> 00:45:30,969
There would be a civilian
charter aircraft
945
00:45:31,004 --> 00:45:33,661
on the tarmac
before we got there,
946
00:45:33,696 --> 00:45:37,182
and it was still there
when we left.
947
00:45:39,150 --> 00:45:42,153
And I found out afterwards
that actually Camilla
948
00:45:42,187 --> 00:45:45,639
had flown in and out
on that aircraft.
949
00:45:45,673 --> 00:45:50,333
So they were obviously
getting together overseas,
950
00:45:50,368 --> 00:45:53,509
but the press didn't
cotton onto that.
951
00:45:53,543 --> 00:45:59,377
♪
952
00:45:59,411 --> 00:46:01,413
- I'm speaking
now about all this
953
00:46:01,448 --> 00:46:04,037
because I've said nothing
for 40 years.
954
00:46:04,071 --> 00:46:08,766
And I've just listened so
often to lies, silly stories.
955
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,975
And it's quite frustrating.
956
00:46:11,009 --> 00:46:12,493
There are only a few of us
957
00:46:12,528 --> 00:46:14,668
that can say
what really happened.
958
00:46:14,702 --> 00:46:17,844
And I decided that my time
might be coming to an end,
959
00:46:17,878 --> 00:46:21,019
so I'm going to do it now.
960
00:46:21,054 --> 00:46:22,607
My name is Allan Peters,
961
00:46:22,641 --> 00:46:25,265
and I worked as a royalty
protection officer
962
00:46:25,299 --> 00:46:27,370
for the Prince of Wales,
and then subsequently,
963
00:46:27,405 --> 00:46:29,890
to the Princess of Wales
for nine years.
964
00:46:32,099 --> 00:46:34,861
There was a team
of three protection officers
965
00:46:34,895 --> 00:46:36,379
with the Prince of Wales,
966
00:46:36,414 --> 00:46:39,313
two of us
with the Princess of Wales.
967
00:46:39,348 --> 00:46:42,351
And then there was a small team
of what we called baby men,
968
00:46:42,385 --> 00:46:44,387
who were
the protection officers
969
00:46:44,422 --> 00:46:46,769
who looked after
William and Harry.
970
00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:49,634
And Barry Mannakee
was one of those baby men,
971
00:46:49,668 --> 00:46:51,636
as we called him.
972
00:46:59,264 --> 00:47:01,922
Harry must have been
about a year old,
973
00:47:01,957 --> 00:47:03,993
something like that.
974
00:47:05,167 --> 00:47:08,584
And on one occasion,
we did use Barry Mannakee
975
00:47:08,618 --> 00:47:13,554
to go with her for four
or five days up to Scotland.
976
00:47:15,487 --> 00:47:19,457
And when they came back
from that trip,
977
00:47:19,491 --> 00:47:23,771
I started to notice her
conduct in the presence
978
00:47:23,806 --> 00:47:27,948
of Mannakee getting
more and more strange--
979
00:47:27,983 --> 00:47:30,019
what she wore,
how she behaved,
980
00:47:30,054 --> 00:47:33,851
and so on and so forth.
981
00:47:33,885 --> 00:47:37,440
[dramatic orchestral music]
982
00:47:37,475 --> 00:47:40,650
It was clear
that something had gone on.
983
00:47:40,685 --> 00:47:44,240
So I took it upon myself
to challenge her
984
00:47:44,275 --> 00:47:47,347
of what I'd seen,
and she eventually agreed.
985
00:47:47,381 --> 00:47:49,142
Oh, yes.
It's all so wonderful.
986
00:47:49,176 --> 00:47:52,490
He's so marvelous.
987
00:47:52,524 --> 00:47:55,631
As far as I can ascertain,
they were having an affair.
988
00:47:55,665 --> 00:47:58,634
♪
989
00:47:58,668 --> 00:48:00,878
We had this lengthy
conversation,
990
00:48:00,912 --> 00:48:05,192
trying to explain
it was a recipe for disaster.
991
00:48:05,227 --> 00:48:07,988
The thing was
to try and help it
992
00:48:08,023 --> 00:48:10,577
to stop before it got too bad.
993
00:48:10,611 --> 00:48:13,994
Because as I explained to her,
she would lose the marriage,
994
00:48:14,029 --> 00:48:16,790
lose the boys,
lose everything.
995
00:48:18,723 --> 00:48:21,243
We were trying
to move Mannakee on
996
00:48:21,277 --> 00:48:25,109
to get him away,
but it was quite difficult.
997
00:48:25,143 --> 00:48:28,698
♪
998
00:48:28,733 --> 00:48:30,908
When Barry Mannakee
was told that he
999
00:48:30,942 --> 00:48:34,877
was being transferred out,
he obviously rang her
1000
00:48:34,912 --> 00:48:37,086
on a direct line.
1001
00:48:37,984 --> 00:48:40,538
And I was in my office
at Kensington Palace,
1002
00:48:40,572 --> 00:48:42,712
and the first thing I knew was
1003
00:48:42,747 --> 00:48:44,956
she was in the doorway
throwing her shoes
1004
00:48:44,991 --> 00:48:46,889
at the back of my head,
1005
00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:52,136
upset because she was
putting the blame on me.
1006
00:48:52,170 --> 00:48:53,620
She was distraught,
1007
00:48:53,654 --> 00:48:57,037
and life was quite difficult
for everybody.
1008
00:48:57,072 --> 00:48:59,729
♪
1009
00:48:59,764 --> 00:49:01,628
On one occasion
when we got back--
1010
00:49:01,662 --> 00:49:03,733
I think it was a black tie
engagement or something.
1011
00:49:03,768 --> 00:49:06,495
And she got out of the car,
ran inside,
1012
00:49:06,529 --> 00:49:09,429
and disappeared upstairs.
1013
00:49:09,463 --> 00:49:11,396
And the prince said to me,
1014
00:49:11,431 --> 00:49:13,640
"What on earth
is the matter with her?"
1015
00:49:13,674 --> 00:49:17,161
And I said, "Well, I probably
can't help you, sir,"
1016
00:49:17,195 --> 00:49:19,853
because I didn't
want to explain.
1017
00:49:19,887 --> 00:49:24,271
♪
1018
00:49:24,306 --> 00:49:26,170
And eventually, he said,
"Well, the only thing
1019
00:49:26,204 --> 00:49:28,103
"that seems
to be upsetting her
1020
00:49:28,137 --> 00:49:31,761
"is that Barry Mannakee
is leaving.
1021
00:49:31,796 --> 00:49:33,453
"And if that's the case,
1022
00:49:33,487 --> 00:49:36,007
"I'll say
that he doesn't need to leave.
1023
00:49:36,042 --> 00:49:37,526
He can stay."
1024
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,287
And at that point,
I felt I had to say,
1025
00:49:40,322 --> 00:49:44,188
"Well, if he stays, sir,
then I can't stay.
1026
00:49:44,222 --> 00:49:46,880
He has to go."
1027
00:49:46,914 --> 00:49:50,815
And I think that point,
the penny may have dropped
1028
00:49:50,849 --> 00:49:52,610
as to what was happening.
1029
00:49:52,644 --> 00:49:57,822
And he never said another word
and turned and left.
1030
00:50:00,135 --> 00:50:03,759
I can categorically say that
the first person that strayed
1031
00:50:03,793 --> 00:50:06,486
in the marriage
was the Princess of Wales,
1032
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,318
and he didn't
until after he knew
1033
00:50:11,353 --> 00:50:14,218
she had strayed.
1034
00:50:18,429 --> 00:50:21,673
- Do your tastes coincide?
1035
00:50:21,708 --> 00:50:23,882
- On what, pop music?
- Pop music.
1036
00:50:23,917 --> 00:50:27,024
- Well, yes, sometimes, yes.
Not always.
1037
00:50:27,058 --> 00:50:28,887
- [laughing]
- I mean...
1038
00:50:28,922 --> 00:50:33,513
- They were two people
who had nothing
1039
00:50:33,547 --> 00:50:36,309
on which
to build a relationship.
1040
00:50:37,965 --> 00:50:40,692
Charles and Diana
had an age gap
1041
00:50:40,727 --> 00:50:42,867
that seemed
even wider than it was
1042
00:50:42,901 --> 00:50:45,766
because they
had nothing in common.
1043
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:51,255
She hated Balmoral.
She hated shooting.
1044
00:50:51,289 --> 00:50:52,566
She hated hunting.
1045
00:50:52,601 --> 00:50:54,396
She liked being in London,
1046
00:50:54,430 --> 00:50:56,639
having lunch
in Tallinn restaurants
1047
00:50:56,674 --> 00:50:58,986
and Knightsbridge
with girlfriends,
1048
00:50:59,021 --> 00:51:00,988
shopping, pop music.
1049
00:51:01,023 --> 00:51:02,714
Charles liked
classical and opera.
1050
00:51:02,749 --> 00:51:04,061
She couldn't stand it.
1051
00:51:04,095 --> 00:51:07,374
It's worse
than chalk and cheese.
1052
00:51:07,409 --> 00:51:13,484
♪
1053
00:51:13,518 --> 00:51:15,106
- We would speak
on the telephone all the time.
1054
00:51:15,141 --> 00:51:16,970
He did say that it
was very volatile.
1055
00:51:17,004 --> 00:51:18,903
He said that they thought she
had bulimia at that point.
1056
00:51:18,937 --> 00:51:22,803
And he said, you know, she
threw herself down the stairs.
1057
00:51:24,978 --> 00:51:26,669
Said, you know, she would
be crying in the bathroom.
1058
00:51:26,704 --> 00:51:28,257
And William would
be trying to put Kleenex
1059
00:51:28,292 --> 00:51:30,259
underneath the door,
saying, "Mummy, it's OK."
1060
00:51:30,294 --> 00:51:33,573
That's traumatic for any child
to see that instability.
1061
00:51:33,607 --> 00:51:36,265
So he was very worried
about that.
1062
00:51:38,681 --> 00:51:41,270
He did say to me that he
hoped that the children would
1063
00:51:41,305 --> 00:51:43,755
remember that when, you know,
she'd be yelling and screaming
1064
00:51:43,790 --> 00:51:45,481
at him that he didn't yell
and scream back,
1065
00:51:45,516 --> 00:51:48,070
that he was trying
to be the voice of reason.
1066
00:51:50,797 --> 00:51:53,731
- All her things
were a cry of help.
1067
00:51:53,765 --> 00:51:56,389
I just think
it was alien to him.
1068
00:51:56,423 --> 00:51:59,564
It just hadn't been
in his orbit before.
1069
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:02,395
And probably he just
didn't understand.
1070
00:52:03,465 --> 00:52:06,053
- He's not a temperament that
can handle that kind of drama.
1071
00:52:06,088 --> 00:52:07,538
It was very alien to him.
1072
00:52:07,572 --> 00:52:09,505
I mean, you really did
not do that kind of thing.
1073
00:52:09,540 --> 00:52:10,886
And you had a stiff upper lip,
1074
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,819
and you had
a certain demeanor.
1075
00:52:12,853 --> 00:52:14,476
He wasn't good at that time
1076
00:52:14,510 --> 00:52:17,341
with a lot
of raw emotion like this.
1077
00:52:20,516 --> 00:52:23,485
[soft music]
1078
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:27,523
♪
1079
00:52:27,558 --> 00:52:31,769
- Late '80s,
I was at a friend's wedding,
1080
00:52:31,803 --> 00:52:35,497
and it was then that people
really started talking
1081
00:52:35,531 --> 00:52:41,054
talking about Charles and Diana
and how bad the marriage was.
1082
00:52:42,642 --> 00:52:44,506
There were two camps,
1083
00:52:44,540 --> 00:52:47,129
those who really
supported Charles
1084
00:52:47,164 --> 00:52:49,718
and said Diana was mad,
1085
00:52:49,752 --> 00:52:51,685
and then there was
another camp
1086
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:55,206
who were more sympathetic
to Diana and said
1087
00:52:55,241 --> 00:52:58,209
that she'd been far too young
when she was married
1088
00:52:58,244 --> 00:53:00,729
into the royal family,
and it would be enough
1089
00:53:00,763 --> 00:53:02,765
to unbalance anybody.
1090
00:53:04,491 --> 00:53:09,047
As for me, I was torn because
I met Diana quite a lot,
1091
00:53:09,082 --> 00:53:10,532
and I liked her.
1092
00:53:10,566 --> 00:53:12,775
You couldn't help
but like her.
1093
00:53:14,605 --> 00:53:17,159
The marriage was
effectively over.
1094
00:53:17,194 --> 00:53:18,747
They didn't live together.
1095
00:53:18,781 --> 00:53:21,128
They didn't sleep together.
1096
00:53:21,163 --> 00:53:22,923
It was a dead marriage.
1097
00:53:22,958 --> 00:53:28,274
And Diana was doing her own
thing with various boyfriends.
1098
00:53:28,308 --> 00:53:31,415
- By the late '80s,
what Charles was after
1099
00:53:31,449 --> 00:53:34,556
was what,
to some extent, they had,
1100
00:53:34,590 --> 00:53:37,559
which was to lead
separate lives
1101
00:53:37,593 --> 00:53:40,147
but stay together
for the sake of the country
1102
00:53:40,182 --> 00:53:42,149
and of their children.
1103
00:53:42,184 --> 00:53:44,255
This is the way
that aristocratic families
1104
00:53:44,290 --> 00:53:47,120
have managed their estates
for generations.
1105
00:53:47,154 --> 00:53:49,812
If the marriage isn't
as happy as it might be,
1106
00:53:49,847 --> 00:53:53,160
they go off and they find
love interest elsewhere,
1107
00:53:53,195 --> 00:53:54,886
but they stay together.
1108
00:53:54,921 --> 00:53:57,441
But Diana didn't want that.
1109
00:53:57,475 --> 00:54:01,824
Diana wanted the world
to know that she was unhappy.
1110
00:54:01,859 --> 00:54:05,276
[dramatic orchestral music]
1111
00:54:05,311 --> 00:54:07,761
- As the Princess of Wales
delivered Prince Harry
1112
00:54:07,796 --> 00:54:09,315
to his school this morning,
1113
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:11,075
the author of the book
which claims to expose
1114
00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:13,146
the real state
of her marriage said he left
1115
00:54:13,180 --> 00:54:15,148
very strong material
out of his account
1116
00:54:15,182 --> 00:54:17,150
because it would have
revealed the identity
1117
00:54:17,184 --> 00:54:18,876
of several key sources.
1118
00:54:18,910 --> 00:54:20,843
The book,
due to go on sale tomorrow,
1119
00:54:20,878 --> 00:54:23,087
claims she made several
attempts on her life.
1120
00:54:23,121 --> 00:54:25,917
The author, Andrew Morton,
at the center of the storm
1121
00:54:25,952 --> 00:54:27,988
has warned today
that the Princess of Wales
1122
00:54:28,023 --> 00:54:31,544
now needs help
and understanding.
1123
00:54:31,578 --> 00:54:35,133
- I think her own involvement
with Andrew Morton
1124
00:54:35,168 --> 00:54:36,928
in her book
"Diana: Her True Story"
1125
00:54:36,963 --> 00:54:39,034
was effectively her biography.
1126
00:54:39,068 --> 00:54:41,105
And what we got was the truth.
1127
00:54:41,139 --> 00:54:48,215
♪
1128
00:54:57,224 --> 00:55:00,883
- Morton's book is the most
one-sided divorce petition
1129
00:55:00,918 --> 00:55:02,333
almost in history.
1130
00:55:02,368 --> 00:55:04,922
It's almost saint,
sinner, and that's it.
1131
00:55:04,956 --> 00:55:06,613
Diana was no saint.
1132
00:55:06,648 --> 00:55:09,236
Diana had been having affairs
1133
00:55:09,271 --> 00:55:11,308
same as Charles
was having affairs.
1134
00:55:13,068 --> 00:55:17,693
- How would anybody feel
if their wife exposed
1135
00:55:17,728 --> 00:55:19,246
every last detail about them,
1136
00:55:19,281 --> 00:55:22,215
particularly
from a position of fury?
1137
00:55:22,249 --> 00:55:25,391
I think Charles found
the Andrew Morton book
1138
00:55:25,425 --> 00:55:28,877
very wounding, and hurtful,
1139
00:55:28,911 --> 00:55:32,052
and damaging
to his reputation.
1140
00:55:35,780 --> 00:55:38,611
- "The Six O'Clock News"
from the BBC
1141
00:55:38,645 --> 00:55:42,925
with Anna Ford and Chris Lowe.
1142
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,134
- Good evening.
The headlines at 6:00.
1143
00:55:45,169 --> 00:55:47,999
The Prince and Princess
of Wales are to separate,
1144
00:55:48,034 --> 00:55:50,243
but they do not plan
to divorce.
1145
00:55:50,277 --> 00:55:53,246
[tense music]
1146
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,768
♪
1147
00:55:57,802 --> 00:56:00,771
- I always think
there's a camera now, always,
1148
00:56:00,805 --> 00:56:02,669
or something like a camera.
1149
00:56:02,704 --> 00:56:04,844
And worse than you--
1150
00:56:04,878 --> 00:56:06,949
it's extraordinary
how now you feel--
1151
00:56:06,984 --> 00:56:09,020
I do, anyway--
that wherever you are,
1152
00:56:09,055 --> 00:56:11,954
there's somebody hiding
behind something somewhere.
1153
00:56:11,989 --> 00:56:15,233
I'm quite
a sort of private person.
1154
00:56:15,268 --> 00:56:19,755
I'm not prepared
to just perform
1155
00:56:19,790 --> 00:56:23,000
whenever
they want me to perform.
1156
00:56:23,034 --> 00:56:27,004
- Charles did an interview
with Dimbleby
1157
00:56:27,038 --> 00:56:30,525
after the Morton book
was published.
1158
00:56:31,526 --> 00:56:37,048
I think he wanted to justify
his relationship with Camilla.
1159
00:56:37,083 --> 00:56:40,500
And he wants to point out
that they'd only started
1160
00:56:40,535 --> 00:56:44,055
seeing each other again
after the marriage to Diana
1161
00:56:44,090 --> 00:56:47,334
was effectively over and dead.
1162
00:56:47,369 --> 00:56:51,200
- Mrs. Parker Bowles
is a great friend of mine.
1163
00:56:51,235 --> 00:56:54,549
Most people probably would
realize that when marriages
1164
00:56:54,583 --> 00:56:59,243
break down,
awful and miserable as that is,
1165
00:56:59,277 --> 00:57:01,832
that so often, you know,
that it is your friends
1166
00:57:01,866 --> 00:57:05,732
who are the most important,
and helpful,
1167
00:57:05,767 --> 00:57:08,286
understanding, and encouraging.
1168
00:57:08,321 --> 00:57:11,600
Otherwise, you would
go stark raving mad.
1169
00:57:11,635 --> 00:57:16,260
- Did you try to be faithful
and honorable to your wife
1170
00:57:16,294 --> 00:57:19,366
when you took on the vow
of marriage?
1171
00:57:19,401 --> 00:57:22,439
- Yes, absolutely.
1172
00:57:22,473 --> 00:57:23,578
- And you were?
1173
00:57:23,612 --> 00:57:25,442
- Yes.
1174
00:57:26,304 --> 00:57:32,034
Until it became
irretrievably broken down,
1175
00:57:32,069 --> 00:57:34,243
us both having tried.
1176
00:57:34,278 --> 00:57:36,211
- Shouldn't have done
the interview,
1177
00:57:36,245 --> 00:57:37,868
like I probably
shouldn't be doing this,
1178
00:57:37,902 --> 00:57:42,459
but he shouldn't have done
the interview, really.
1179
00:57:42,493 --> 00:57:46,117
When she did the interview,
she was still his wife.
1180
00:57:46,152 --> 00:57:48,050
- But his was before hers.
1181
00:57:48,085 --> 00:57:50,259
- Oh, was it?
- Yeah.
1182
00:57:50,294 --> 00:57:52,952
That was '95.
This is '94.
1183
00:57:52,986 --> 00:57:58,475
- So did he admit in this
that he had extramarital--
1184
00:57:58,509 --> 00:58:00,477
what an idiot.
1185
00:58:00,511 --> 00:58:03,756
♪
1186
00:58:03,790 --> 00:58:06,448
- There's no dispute that
Charles was in a relationship
1187
00:58:06,483 --> 00:58:11,073
with Camilla as a married woman
before they married in '81.
1188
00:58:11,108 --> 00:58:13,800
Diana tells me that
that relationship continued
1189
00:58:13,835 --> 00:58:16,838
right through their marriage.
1190
00:58:16,872 --> 00:58:19,219
It suits the prince obviously,
the king he is now,
1191
00:58:19,254 --> 00:58:21,774
to say that
that wasn't the case.
1192
00:58:21,808 --> 00:58:26,537
From my own observation, I have
no reason to disbelieve Diana.
1193
00:58:26,572 --> 00:58:29,644
- His marriage had
irretrievably broken down
1194
00:58:29,678 --> 00:58:33,475
because he understood
what was happening.
1195
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:37,134
The Princess of Wales,
her relationship with Mannakee
1196
00:58:37,168 --> 00:58:39,619
was clearly inappropriate.
1197
00:58:39,654 --> 00:58:43,865
With him, it's about loyalty,
and he'd been betrayed.
1198
00:58:45,522 --> 00:58:48,490
But also,
he never told the truth.
1199
00:58:48,525 --> 00:58:51,148
He protected
his sons from that.
1200
00:58:51,182 --> 00:58:55,221
And that is to be admired
greatly, I think.
1201
00:58:58,914 --> 00:59:01,365
[dramatic orchestral music]
1202
00:59:01,399 --> 00:59:03,574
- It's the interview
that stunned the nation.
1203
00:59:03,609 --> 00:59:06,335
Last night,
more than 21 million viewers
1204
00:59:06,370 --> 00:59:08,096
heard Diana admit adultery,
1205
00:59:08,130 --> 00:59:09,580
as well
as discussing her bulimia,
1206
00:59:09,615 --> 00:59:12,549
self-mutilation,
and post-natal depression.
1207
00:59:12,583 --> 00:59:14,378
She went on
to express her opinions
1208
00:59:14,412 --> 00:59:16,587
on Charles, Camilla,
and her efforts
1209
00:59:16,622 --> 00:59:18,451
to make her marriage work.
1210
00:59:18,485 --> 00:59:20,177
♪
1211
00:59:20,211 --> 00:59:21,661
- To do that
to a beautiful woman
1212
00:59:21,696 --> 00:59:23,352
and take no notice
of her cries for help
1213
00:59:23,387 --> 00:59:24,664
or whatever
she's going through,
1214
00:59:24,699 --> 00:59:26,528
I thought is just disgusting.
1215
00:59:26,563 --> 00:59:29,842
Charles, I've got no respect
for that man at all now.
1216
00:59:29,876 --> 00:59:32,430
- She's fighting
to get her way.
1217
00:59:32,465 --> 00:59:33,466
Good luck to her.
1218
00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:35,537
[reporters clamoring]
1219
00:59:35,572 --> 00:59:37,539
- The most hurtful parts
for him
1220
00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:40,473
would have been the accusation
that he was a bad father
1221
00:59:40,507 --> 00:59:43,925
and that he possibly
should not become king.
1222
00:59:45,271 --> 00:59:48,515
That he wasn't fit
for the top job, I think,
1223
00:59:48,550 --> 00:59:50,725
must have been
incredibly hurtful
1224
00:59:50,759 --> 00:59:56,075
and frustrating because he
was never going to retaliate.
1225
00:59:56,109 --> 00:59:57,421
He never would.
1226
00:59:57,455 --> 01:00:01,632
So here he was,
powerless and humiliated.
1227
01:00:01,667 --> 01:00:04,393
[cheers and applause]
1228
01:00:04,428 --> 01:00:08,466
- Neither Diana or Charles
thought about their children.
1229
01:00:11,297 --> 01:00:13,023
And, I mean, when you
give those interviews,
1230
01:00:13,057 --> 01:00:14,438
do you think
about the repercussions
1231
01:00:14,472 --> 01:00:15,646
on your children,
maybe not now,
1232
01:00:15,681 --> 01:00:17,303
but when they're older?
1233
01:00:17,337 --> 01:00:19,926
I mean, those books and that
interview is there forever.
1234
01:00:19,961 --> 01:00:23,309
And so you have to be so aware
of what you're saying.
1235
01:00:25,656 --> 01:00:27,624
- William and Harry
through their early days
1236
01:00:27,658 --> 01:00:31,075
in the '80s
would be blissfully unaware
1237
01:00:31,110 --> 01:00:33,664
of the personal complications,
1238
01:00:33,699 --> 01:00:38,186
Hewitt with Diana
and Camilla with their father.
1239
01:00:39,221 --> 01:00:40,775
But of course,
as you get older
1240
01:00:40,809 --> 01:00:42,639
and through into their teens,
1241
01:00:42,673 --> 01:00:44,226
you know,
they would have become aware,
1242
01:00:44,261 --> 01:00:46,643
obviously, of the relationship
1243
01:00:46,677 --> 01:00:49,542
that their mother had
and father had.
1244
01:00:49,576 --> 01:00:52,545
[tense music]
1245
01:00:52,579 --> 01:00:58,965
♪
1246
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,451
- Her former husband may
be adopting a low profile.
1247
01:01:02,486 --> 01:01:05,247
There is no sign that Diana,
Princess of Wales,
1248
01:01:05,282 --> 01:01:10,011
will do so as she heads off
into a new and uncertain life.
1249
01:01:13,842 --> 01:01:17,052
[ambulance siren blaring]
1250
01:01:19,537 --> 01:01:22,851
♪
1251
01:01:22,886 --> 01:01:25,682
- Diana, Princess of Wales,
has died in a car accident
1252
01:01:25,716 --> 01:01:29,686
in Paris, which also killed
her companion, Dodi Fayed.
1253
01:01:31,066 --> 01:01:33,206
The Prince of Wales,
on holiday at Balmoral
1254
01:01:33,241 --> 01:01:34,898
with his sons
William and Harry,
1255
01:01:34,932 --> 01:01:36,727
he has been informed.
1256
01:01:36,762 --> 01:01:38,902
Grimly woken
in the middle of the night
1257
01:01:38,936 --> 01:01:41,594
with just the most awful news.
1258
01:01:41,628 --> 01:01:43,527
- Buckingham
Palace spokesperson
1259
01:01:43,561 --> 01:01:46,564
has just announced that the
queen and the Prince of Wales,
1260
01:01:46,599 --> 01:01:49,429
she said, are deeply shocked
and distressed
1261
01:01:49,464 --> 01:01:51,708
by this terrible news.
1262
01:01:51,742 --> 01:01:57,748
♪
1263
01:02:00,786 --> 01:02:03,789
- At about 10:00,
we suddenly got a phone call
1264
01:02:03,823 --> 01:02:06,999
to say, you may be bringing
the body of the princess
1265
01:02:07,033 --> 01:02:09,898
back to Northolt
with the prince.
1266
01:02:09,933 --> 01:02:11,624
[soft music]
1267
01:02:11,658 --> 01:02:14,627
And if there were ever one
I wanted to make,
1268
01:02:14,661 --> 01:02:15,766
it was this one.
1269
01:02:15,801 --> 01:02:18,700
I'd flown the princess
over 200 times.
1270
01:02:18,735 --> 01:02:24,085
So in a way, I was proud to
do this trip, her final trip.
1271
01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:29,435
♪
1272
01:02:29,469 --> 01:02:32,921
When we got to Aberdeen
to pick up the prince,
1273
01:02:32,956 --> 01:02:34,198
he didn't come up front.
1274
01:02:34,233 --> 01:02:35,786
He just sat down.
1275
01:02:35,821 --> 01:02:39,100
I didn't see him at all
on the way out to Paris.
1276
01:02:39,134 --> 01:02:46,314
♪
1277
01:02:55,668 --> 01:03:00,500
When I first saw the coffin,
1278
01:03:00,535 --> 01:03:05,851
that's when really the sadness
started to come in.
1279
01:03:05,885 --> 01:03:08,957
♪
1280
01:03:08,992 --> 01:03:14,307
You realize that that life
had ended, and there it was.
1281
01:03:14,342 --> 01:03:16,654
It was horrific.
1282
01:03:16,689 --> 01:03:23,523
♪
1283
01:03:23,558 --> 01:03:25,698
I always remember taking off
1284
01:03:25,732 --> 01:03:28,908
into a wonderful
golden sunset.
1285
01:03:28,943 --> 01:03:33,016
It was a moment
I will always treasure
1286
01:03:33,050 --> 01:03:36,157
because it was
her final flight.
1287
01:03:36,191 --> 01:03:43,371
♪
1288
01:03:46,961 --> 01:03:49,722
When we landed, I know,
as he went down the back,
1289
01:03:49,756 --> 01:03:52,242
he thanked all the crew
as he went back.
1290
01:03:52,276 --> 01:03:55,624
And I thought,
that's the measure of the man.
1291
01:03:55,659 --> 01:04:00,319
After such a shocking day,
he still had time
1292
01:04:00,353 --> 01:04:04,116
to do the thank yous as well.
1293
01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:10,570
♪
1294
01:04:11,917 --> 01:04:13,642
- One thing
the public don't realize
1295
01:04:13,677 --> 01:04:16,576
is that during the last year
of Diana's life,
1296
01:04:16,611 --> 01:04:21,754
Charles and Diana
had reconciled as friends
1297
01:04:21,788 --> 01:04:24,930
and had actually managed
to create this friendship
1298
01:04:24,964 --> 01:04:27,691
that they'd never created
when they were married.
1299
01:04:31,937 --> 01:04:35,630
Charles was devastated
when she died.
1300
01:04:35,664 --> 01:04:38,598
I mean, I heard
that he spent hours in France
1301
01:04:38,633 --> 01:04:43,949
with her body, crying,
and he was devastated.
1302
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:49,540
And then he had to deal
with his sons.
1303
01:04:53,475 --> 01:04:55,029
- He was terrified
for his sons.
1304
01:04:55,063 --> 01:04:58,135
How would they cope
without a mother?
1305
01:04:58,170 --> 01:04:59,861
How would
the whole thing play out?
1306
01:04:59,896 --> 01:05:02,208
And I think
he immediately recognized
1307
01:05:02,243 --> 01:05:05,211
that he probably
would be blamed
1308
01:05:05,246 --> 01:05:08,490
for her death in some way.
1309
01:05:17,016 --> 01:05:18,431
- Does it smell?
1310
01:05:18,466 --> 01:05:22,919
- As an author, journalist,
I just wanted to get
1311
01:05:22,953 --> 01:05:24,472
to get to the bottom
of this man
1312
01:05:24,506 --> 01:05:27,026
who was born to be king.
1313
01:05:29,166 --> 01:05:32,652
That took a couple
of years to pin down,
1314
01:05:32,687 --> 01:05:35,207
but it was a couple of years
in which they gave me
1315
01:05:35,241 --> 01:05:37,347
very good access to him.
1316
01:05:37,381 --> 01:05:41,385
And I really got to know him.
1317
01:05:42,248 --> 01:05:45,700
- People thought that he
was this dry, old stick.
1318
01:05:45,734 --> 01:05:47,736
The funny thing is,
he's actually one
1319
01:05:47,771 --> 01:05:50,739
of the most emotional people
I've ever met.
1320
01:05:55,123 --> 01:05:57,539
After Diana died,
1321
01:05:57,574 --> 01:06:02,924
Camilla's negative popularity
was so severe
1322
01:06:02,959 --> 01:06:05,237
that it was actually
almost dangerous
1323
01:06:05,271 --> 01:06:07,791
for her to appear in public.
1324
01:06:09,966 --> 01:06:11,898
And yet, he was determined
1325
01:06:11,933 --> 01:06:15,005
that she should be part
of his life.
1326
01:06:16,075 --> 01:06:20,562
There was a very
deliberate PR campaign
1327
01:06:20,597 --> 01:06:23,841
to make her acceptable
to the world.
1328
01:06:26,534 --> 01:06:28,846
- He called in Mark Bolland,
1329
01:06:28,881 --> 01:06:32,022
who was a young,
clever public relations guru,
1330
01:06:32,057 --> 01:06:36,509
to handle this operation
Mrs. PB, as it was called,
1331
01:06:36,544 --> 01:06:40,306
to try to get acceptance
of Camilla publicly.
1332
01:06:40,341 --> 01:06:42,481
[cameras snapping]
1333
01:06:42,515 --> 01:06:45,484
[tense music]
1334
01:06:45,518 --> 01:06:47,520
♪
1335
01:06:47,555 --> 01:06:50,937
Two years after Diana's death,
the Ritz was the moment
1336
01:06:50,972 --> 01:06:54,458
when Camilla stepped out
into the public limelight--
1337
01:06:54,493 --> 01:06:56,702
the flashes going off,
the hundreds of photographers
1338
01:06:56,736 --> 01:06:59,084
on ladders
and whatever outside.
1339
01:06:59,118 --> 01:07:02,294
It was Camilla's
sister's birthday party,
1340
01:07:02,328 --> 01:07:03,536
and it was the first time
1341
01:07:03,571 --> 01:07:05,469
they'd been
photographed together.
1342
01:07:05,504 --> 01:07:08,645
[cheers and applause]
1343
01:07:11,337 --> 01:07:13,788
- How much involvement
did he actually have in it?
1344
01:07:13,822 --> 01:07:15,962
- I'm told that he
planned this himself.
1345
01:07:15,997 --> 01:07:17,895
He decided enough was enough.
1346
01:07:17,930 --> 01:07:20,174
They're fed up sneaking around.
1347
01:07:20,208 --> 01:07:21,796
And tonight was the night.
1348
01:07:21,830 --> 01:07:23,280
- Everyone knew it
was going to happen.
1349
01:07:23,315 --> 01:07:26,387
It was tipped off,
and it was an arranged moment.
1350
01:07:26,421 --> 01:07:29,355
But it was a moment
that allowed her
1351
01:07:29,390 --> 01:07:32,186
to step out in public.
1352
01:07:33,118 --> 01:07:35,706
- I believe that the
British people were warming
1353
01:07:35,741 --> 01:07:39,227
to Camilla,
but I think at that point,
1354
01:07:39,262 --> 01:07:43,093
I would have said that marriage
between Charles and Camilla
1355
01:07:43,128 --> 01:07:45,923
was never going to happen
1356
01:07:45,958 --> 01:07:49,065
unless William
and Harry accepted her,
1357
01:07:49,099 --> 01:07:51,998
very publicly accepted her.
1358
01:07:52,033 --> 01:07:57,073
♪
1359
01:07:57,107 --> 01:07:59,040
- The woman
that Diana had been
1360
01:07:59,075 --> 01:08:00,869
crying her eyes out about--
1361
01:08:00,904 --> 01:08:02,354
and she called her
Rottweiler--
1362
01:08:02,388 --> 01:08:04,287
very difficult
then to get your sons,
1363
01:08:04,321 --> 01:08:07,117
the sons of Diana,
to in any way warm
1364
01:08:07,152 --> 01:08:09,050
to this woman
because they would have
1365
01:08:09,085 --> 01:08:13,019
had a particular image of her.
1366
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,712
- But Charles went on,
1367
01:08:16,747 --> 01:08:20,544
and he proposed
to Camilla anyway.
1368
01:08:21,821 --> 01:08:24,064
- Buckingham Palace
has this afternoon
1369
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:26,412
announced the engagement
of Prince Charles
1370
01:08:26,447 --> 01:08:28,863
to Camilla Parker Bowles.
1371
01:08:40,116 --> 01:08:42,670
- There had remained
great hostility
1372
01:08:42,703 --> 01:08:46,466
about Charles' relationship
with Camilla.
1373
01:08:46,501 --> 01:08:50,712
Camilla was always
the villain in the picture
1374
01:08:50,747 --> 01:08:53,853
as far as the tabloids
were concerned.
1375
01:08:57,443 --> 01:09:00,412
[soft piano music]
1376
01:09:00,446 --> 01:09:07,246
♪
1377
01:09:07,281 --> 01:09:10,180
- Come down
on the right please.
1378
01:09:10,215 --> 01:09:11,768
- What do you mean?
1379
01:09:11,801 --> 01:09:13,425
- What have we done wrong?
1380
01:09:13,459 --> 01:09:15,185
[laughter]
- I'm coming up.
1381
01:09:15,220 --> 01:09:16,703
Give me your hand.
1382
01:09:16,738 --> 01:09:18,877
[grunts]
1383
01:09:18,912 --> 01:09:21,846
- They've got it very
carefully planned, I see.
1384
01:09:21,881 --> 01:09:23,814
- Can I ask William and Harry
1385
01:09:23,849 --> 01:09:26,403
your feelings on the prospect
of the marriage?
1386
01:09:26,438 --> 01:09:29,406
- Very happy, very pleased.
1387
01:09:29,441 --> 01:09:31,236
Be a good day.
1388
01:09:31,270 --> 01:09:33,962
- I think we all took
that at face value.
1389
01:09:33,997 --> 01:09:38,863
And I would say that,
for the public to see
1390
01:09:38,898 --> 01:09:42,729
that William and Harry
accepted her went a good way
1391
01:09:42,764 --> 01:09:45,008
to jumping that hurdle.
1392
01:09:45,042 --> 01:09:48,563
- It was quite a long time
until we actually heard
1393
01:09:48,598 --> 01:09:52,395
either William or Harry
speaking for themselves.
1394
01:09:52,429 --> 01:09:55,432
♪
1395
01:09:56,295 --> 01:09:59,264
[upbeat music]
1396
01:09:59,298 --> 01:10:01,231
♪
1397
01:10:01,266 --> 01:10:05,856
- I believe that Camilla
was very, very happy
1398
01:10:05,891 --> 01:10:09,032
to remain Charles' girlfriend.
1399
01:10:09,066 --> 01:10:13,899
I don't think Camilla
was anxious to marry at all.
1400
01:10:13,933 --> 01:10:17,247
She wasn't interested
in titles, or status,
1401
01:10:17,282 --> 01:10:21,286
or the clothes, or the palaces.
1402
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:22,942
And she wasn't a snob.
1403
01:10:22,977 --> 01:10:25,048
- Camilla,
on the day of her wedding,
1404
01:10:25,082 --> 01:10:27,223
had no idea what
the public reaction would be.
1405
01:10:27,257 --> 01:10:30,812
On that morning, she had
to be prised out of bed
1406
01:10:30,847 --> 01:10:32,883
because she was so frightened.
1407
01:10:32,918 --> 01:10:34,782
She didn't know whether
she would be booed
1408
01:10:34,816 --> 01:10:36,232
and have rotten eggs
thrown at her.
1409
01:10:36,266 --> 01:10:38,303
None of them had any idea.
1410
01:10:38,337 --> 01:10:41,409
- But I think
Charles desperately wanted
1411
01:10:41,444 --> 01:10:46,414
somebody who is publicly
at his side
1412
01:10:46,449 --> 01:10:48,899
to kind of do his job.
1413
01:10:48,934 --> 01:10:52,248
And she's proved to be very,
very good with him.
1414
01:10:52,282 --> 01:10:56,321
He's a much happier person.
1415
01:10:56,355 --> 01:10:59,496
- If they want to get together,
then that's OK.
1416
01:10:59,531 --> 01:11:00,773
- Good luck to him.
1417
01:11:00,808 --> 01:11:01,843
I suppose he deserves
a little bit
1418
01:11:01,878 --> 01:11:03,397
of happiness now, doesn't he?
1419
01:11:03,431 --> 01:11:05,433
- He has to be allowed
to live his own life.
1420
01:11:07,159 --> 01:11:09,817
- People's views began
to change a little bit.
1421
01:11:09,851 --> 01:11:13,130
I don't think
they loved her by the time
1422
01:11:13,165 --> 01:11:15,719
Charles and Camilla
got married,
1423
01:11:15,754 --> 01:11:17,928
but they didn't hate her.
1424
01:11:19,896 --> 01:11:21,794
[soft music]
1425
01:11:21,829 --> 01:11:24,797
[cheers and applause]
1426
01:11:24,832 --> 01:11:27,800
♪
1427
01:11:27,835 --> 01:11:29,630
all: ♪ Save the queen
1428
01:11:29,664 --> 01:11:33,634
♪
1429
01:11:33,668 --> 01:11:36,361
- The first thing
that surprised me
1430
01:11:36,395 --> 01:11:38,155
was that he's funny.
1431
01:11:38,190 --> 01:11:40,468
- There'll be snow
for the higher ground
1432
01:11:40,503 --> 01:11:42,712
of the Highlands
and Aberdeenshire,
1433
01:11:42,746 --> 01:11:45,197
the potential for a few
flurries over Balmoral--
1434
01:11:45,231 --> 01:11:46,888
who the hell wrote the script?
1435
01:11:46,923 --> 01:11:48,925
As the afternoon goes on.
1436
01:11:48,959 --> 01:11:52,998
- I saw him absolutely
in his pomp.
1437
01:11:53,032 --> 01:12:00,212
♪
1438
01:12:05,735 --> 01:12:09,532
He was finally in the marriage
he wanted to be.
1439
01:12:09,566 --> 01:12:13,156
He was happy
in his family life.
1440
01:12:20,232 --> 01:12:22,510
- Prince Harry is
to marry his girlfriend,
1441
01:12:22,545 --> 01:12:25,858
the American actress
Meghan Markle.
1442
01:12:25,893 --> 01:12:27,584
- I know
she's not an aristocrat.
1443
01:12:27,619 --> 01:12:30,276
She's not from
a European royal family.
1444
01:12:30,311 --> 01:12:33,314
She--I mean, she's thoroughly
modern Meghan, you know.
1445
01:12:33,349 --> 01:12:35,730
She's everything
perhaps we might not expect
1446
01:12:35,765 --> 01:12:37,732
of a royal bride.
1447
01:12:38,768 --> 01:12:41,046
- All the stars were aligned.
Everything was just perfect.
1448
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,737
It was this beautiful woman
1449
01:12:42,772 --> 01:12:44,739
just sort of literally
tripped and fell into my life.
1450
01:12:44,774 --> 01:12:47,397
And the fact that she--
1451
01:12:47,432 --> 01:12:51,056
I know the fact that she'll
be really unbelievably good
1452
01:12:51,090 --> 01:12:53,714
at the job part of it as well.
1453
01:12:53,748 --> 01:12:55,543
♪
1454
01:12:55,578 --> 01:12:58,684
- They recognized
that Meghan was a huge asset.
1455
01:12:58,719 --> 01:13:00,652
Charles did see that.
1456
01:13:00,686 --> 01:13:04,276
And so I think
Charles was genuinely
1457
01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:07,383
very welcoming to her.
1458
01:13:07,417 --> 01:13:09,350
- We're all
absolutely delighted.
1459
01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:11,801
As you can see,
they're so happy.
1460
01:13:11,835 --> 01:13:15,287
It's a real joy to have
a bit of good news for once.
1461
01:13:15,321 --> 01:13:17,910
[cheers and applause]
1462
01:13:17,945 --> 01:13:20,568
- As far as I know,
Charles fell over himself
1463
01:13:20,603 --> 01:13:23,502
to welcome Meghan
into the royal family.
1464
01:13:25,815 --> 01:13:30,682
I have more reservations
about William and Kate.
1465
01:13:30,716 --> 01:13:34,064
There seemed to have
been some tension.
1466
01:13:34,099 --> 01:13:36,066
But the rest of the family--
1467
01:13:36,101 --> 01:13:38,310
I think Charles
is utterly faultless
1468
01:13:38,344 --> 01:13:40,899
when it comes to
his behavior towards Meghan.
1469
01:13:40,933 --> 01:13:42,314
I really do.
1470
01:13:42,348 --> 01:13:46,111
And they generally liked her.
1471
01:13:46,145 --> 01:13:49,114
I mean,
that's what I heard anyway.
1472
01:13:49,148 --> 01:13:51,668
[dramatic music]
1473
01:13:51,703 --> 01:13:55,223
- What Meghan and Harry
hadn't reckoned with
1474
01:13:55,258 --> 01:13:57,329
was two things really.
1475
01:13:57,363 --> 01:14:02,472
One was that the press,
instead of welcoming her,
1476
01:14:02,507 --> 01:14:07,684
really were extraordinarily
racist and misogynist.
1477
01:14:07,719 --> 01:14:09,410
It was shocking.
1478
01:14:09,445 --> 01:14:12,862
- My British friend said to me,
"I'm sure he's great.
1479
01:14:12,896 --> 01:14:15,830
"But you shouldn't do it
because the British tabloids
1480
01:14:15,865 --> 01:14:18,384
will destroy your life."
1481
01:14:18,419 --> 01:14:21,180
- But there
was a culture clash.
1482
01:14:21,215 --> 01:14:25,944
To be a star
in the Hollywood system
1483
01:14:25,978 --> 01:14:30,569
is always to be telling people
what you want to do,
1484
01:14:30,604 --> 01:14:33,192
and to be a royal woman
is always to be being told
1485
01:14:33,227 --> 01:14:34,746
what you can't do.
1486
01:14:34,780 --> 01:14:39,129
For her, that was
a very rude awakening.
1487
01:14:40,096 --> 01:14:43,099
Meghan just wanted
to be over there
1488
01:14:43,133 --> 01:14:47,552
and back in a world that she
knows and understands.
1489
01:14:47,586 --> 01:14:49,277
Harry claims that there were
1490
01:14:49,312 --> 01:14:52,418
five different
potential models
1491
01:14:52,453 --> 01:14:54,938
of how he and Meghan
might continue
1492
01:14:54,973 --> 01:14:58,045
to work with the royal family:
1493
01:14:58,079 --> 01:15:01,393
The half in, half out model
where they could have had
1494
01:15:01,427 --> 01:15:04,948
some kind of private,
commercial existence
1495
01:15:04,983 --> 01:15:08,814
and still be doing
royal duties.
1496
01:15:08,849 --> 01:15:10,575
- Harry honestly believed
that he could
1497
01:15:10,609 --> 01:15:12,542
do six months here
and six months there,
1498
01:15:12,577 --> 01:15:14,406
and they'll buy that.
1499
01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:16,339
It was a bit of a shock to him
when the queen said, look,
1500
01:15:16,373 --> 01:15:18,686
I understand, you know,
where you want to go,
1501
01:15:18,721 --> 01:15:20,343
and I wish you well.
1502
01:15:20,377 --> 01:15:23,588
But there was no way that the
queen was going to buy that.
1503
01:15:23,622 --> 01:15:27,108
And so now
he's been out on his own.
1504
01:15:27,143 --> 01:15:30,456
[dramatic music]
1505
01:15:30,491 --> 01:15:31,492
- Good evening.
1506
01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:32,838
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex
1507
01:15:32,873 --> 01:15:34,737
have issued
a personal statement saying
1508
01:15:34,771 --> 01:15:37,256
they will step back
as senior royals
1509
01:15:37,291 --> 01:15:40,087
and work to become
financially independent.
1510
01:15:40,121 --> 01:15:42,779
They made the announcement
without consulting any members
1511
01:15:42,814 --> 01:15:44,885
of the royal family,
a decision which is said
1512
01:15:44,919 --> 01:15:47,059
to have left the family
feeling hurt.
1513
01:15:47,094 --> 01:15:49,510
Prince Harry and Meghan
say they will continue
1514
01:15:49,545 --> 01:15:52,340
to fully support the queen,
but now plan to split
1515
01:15:52,375 --> 01:15:55,516
their time between the UK
and North America.
1516
01:15:55,551 --> 01:16:00,038
- If the queen had allowed
Harry and Meghan to be
1517
01:16:00,072 --> 01:16:04,387
half in and half out,
none of what happened later
1518
01:16:04,421 --> 01:16:06,147
would have happened.
1519
01:16:06,182 --> 01:16:10,496
And perhaps that was a mistake,
but it wasn't Charles' mistake.
1520
01:16:10,531 --> 01:16:13,499
- But the failure to find
something that worked
1521
01:16:13,534 --> 01:16:15,571
for everyone is going
to haunt the monarchy
1522
01:16:15,605 --> 01:16:19,367
and Charles
for a very long time.
1523
01:16:21,266 --> 01:16:24,062
- Towards the end of her life
and the duke's life,
1524
01:16:24,096 --> 01:16:29,274
if there were any problems
with regards to the way
1525
01:16:29,308 --> 01:16:33,761
that they parented, I think
that was all put behind them.
1526
01:16:33,796 --> 01:16:35,521
Charles was talking to Philip
1527
01:16:35,556 --> 01:16:37,662
about his 100th
birthday celebrations.
1528
01:16:37,696 --> 01:16:40,561
And he said,
"I've got to make it first."
1529
01:16:40,596 --> 01:16:42,252
And of course,
that was the last conversation
1530
01:16:42,287 --> 01:16:47,464
they had because he died almost
probably out of stubbornness.
1531
01:16:47,499 --> 01:16:49,225
Because of course,
the Duke of Edinburgh
1532
01:16:49,259 --> 01:16:51,089
once said that, you know,
he couldn't think of anything
1533
01:16:51,123 --> 01:16:53,470
worse than reaching 100.
1534
01:16:53,505 --> 01:16:56,715
[shouting orders]
1535
01:16:59,615 --> 01:17:02,203
- Prince Philip
was a remarkable man.
1536
01:17:02,238 --> 01:17:07,001
He and the queen were married,
as we know, for 73 years.
1537
01:17:07,036 --> 01:17:10,660
And when a figure
like Prince Philip
1538
01:17:10,695 --> 01:17:12,317
is removed from the scene,
1539
01:17:12,351 --> 01:17:15,734
of course it leaves
a great void.
1540
01:17:15,769 --> 01:17:18,634
- The saddest sight
was seeing the queen
1541
01:17:18,668 --> 01:17:20,946
during COVID
burying her husband
1542
01:17:20,981 --> 01:17:23,086
and sitting all on her own.
1543
01:17:24,260 --> 01:17:28,126
Horrendous for her
and for the family really.
1544
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,887
- We have had news
from Buckingham Palace
1545
01:17:30,922 --> 01:17:35,512
that the queen is under medical
supervision at Balmoral.
1546
01:17:35,547 --> 01:17:39,689
[somber music]
1547
01:17:39,724 --> 01:17:42,692
- The Prince of Wales
had to fly up to Balmoral.
1548
01:17:42,727 --> 01:17:44,832
The queen had taken
a turn for the worse.
1549
01:17:44,867 --> 01:17:46,972
Obviously, Charles knew
what was going to happen.
1550
01:17:47,007 --> 01:17:49,285
My understanding is,
he'd gone mushrooming.
1551
01:17:49,319 --> 01:17:51,459
He'd gone
with his box and his stick,
1552
01:17:51,494 --> 01:17:54,117
and gone into the wild woods,
but obviously,
1553
01:17:54,152 --> 01:17:56,533
thinking that this
was the moment that he
1554
01:17:56,568 --> 01:18:00,952
was going to become king.
1555
01:18:00,986 --> 01:18:02,988
It shows you even
at that moment that he wanted
1556
01:18:03,023 --> 01:18:04,783
to be at one with nature,
which I think
1557
01:18:04,818 --> 01:18:08,476
really sums up the king,
somebody who is in harmony
1558
01:18:08,511 --> 01:18:10,858
with his environment.
1559
01:18:13,516 --> 01:18:15,898
[bell tolling]
1560
01:18:15,932 --> 01:18:18,141
- Buckingham Palace
has announced the death
1561
01:18:18,176 --> 01:18:19,833
of Queen Elizabeth II.
1562
01:18:19,867 --> 01:18:22,974
♪
1563
01:18:23,008 --> 01:18:27,530
- And so the reign of
Elizabeth II comes to a close
1564
01:18:27,564 --> 01:18:31,776
after 70 years
at the age of 96.
1565
01:18:31,810 --> 01:18:34,606
Her son Charles is now king.
1566
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,435
- God save the king.
1567
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:39,059
all: God save the king.
1568
01:18:41,233 --> 01:18:44,858
- Queen Elizabeth's
was a life well lived,
1569
01:18:44,892 --> 01:18:47,999
a promise with destiny kept.
1570
01:18:48,033 --> 01:18:52,589
And she is mourned most
deeply in her passing.
1571
01:18:52,624 --> 01:18:59,113
That promise of lifelong
service I renew to all today.
1572
01:18:59,838 --> 01:19:02,772
- He gave that speech
that made us feel secure.
1573
01:19:02,807 --> 01:19:04,740
And I think
we realized suddenly
1574
01:19:04,774 --> 01:19:06,396
there was a man,
a very empathetic man,
1575
01:19:06,431 --> 01:19:10,469
who was going to lead us
into a new, modern monarchy.
1576
01:19:10,504 --> 01:19:13,024
And I think we felt good
about that.
1577
01:19:13,058 --> 01:19:16,199
♪
1578
01:19:16,234 --> 01:19:19,202
[tense music]
1579
01:19:19,237 --> 01:19:21,032
♪
1580
01:19:21,066 --> 01:19:23,966
- He's come to the throne
in the teeth
1581
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,246
of unprecedented challenges--
a cost of living crisis,
1582
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,179
the breach
with Meghan and Harry,
1583
01:19:30,213 --> 01:19:33,492
and, of course,
the problems with his brother.
1584
01:19:34,666 --> 01:19:36,806
It looks like
to be king is to have
1585
01:19:36,841 --> 01:19:39,498
pigeons come home to roost.
1586
01:19:42,156 --> 01:19:45,159
- Have you become an
embarrassment, Prince Andrew?
1587
01:19:46,436 --> 01:19:48,887
- At the heart of the prince's
current problems
1588
01:19:48,922 --> 01:19:53,719
is his 16-year friendship with
this American businessman.
1589
01:19:53,754 --> 01:19:55,445
- Could you please
give us your name?
1590
01:19:55,480 --> 01:19:57,482
- Jeffrey Epstein.
1591
01:19:57,516 --> 01:19:59,104
- My name is Grant Harrold.
1592
01:19:59,139 --> 01:20:01,382
And I was a royal butler
to the Prince of Wales
1593
01:20:01,417 --> 01:20:04,834
between 2004 and 2011.
1594
01:20:04,869 --> 01:20:07,492
While I was there, one
of the most difficult things
1595
01:20:07,526 --> 01:20:09,183
to hit the royal family
in recent years
1596
01:20:09,218 --> 01:20:11,047
is Prince Andrew's
relationship
1597
01:20:11,082 --> 01:20:13,636
with Jeffrey Epstein,
him a convicted sex offender.
1598
01:20:13,670 --> 01:20:16,742
And then you got Prince Andrew
giving an interview on it.
1599
01:20:16,777 --> 01:20:18,158
- That you were staying
at the house--
1600
01:20:18,192 --> 01:20:20,850
- Yes.
- Of a convicted sex offender.
1601
01:20:20,885 --> 01:20:21,955
- [sighs]
1602
01:20:21,989 --> 01:20:23,715
It was a convenient
place to stay.
1603
01:20:23,749 --> 01:20:25,544
- It just was a disaster.
1604
01:20:25,579 --> 01:20:30,860
- I admit fully
that my judgment
1605
01:20:30,895 --> 01:20:36,659
was probably colored
by my tendency
1606
01:20:36,693 --> 01:20:38,005
to be too honorable.
1607
01:20:39,075 --> 01:20:43,977
- When Charles became king,
he dealt very effectively
1608
01:20:44,011 --> 01:20:46,358
with Andrew
and very ruthlessly.
1609
01:20:46,393 --> 01:20:49,879
He told him that he would
never be a working royal again
1610
01:20:49,914 --> 01:20:53,883
or perform a public duty,
which, as we know,
1611
01:20:53,918 --> 01:20:59,716
enraged Andrew,
but it was what he had to do.
1612
01:21:00,476 --> 01:21:04,204
So in that case,
Charles very definitely put
1613
01:21:04,238 --> 01:21:07,379
the interests of the crown
first and quite right.
1614
01:21:07,414 --> 01:21:09,278
But Andrew is not his son.
1615
01:21:11,038 --> 01:21:14,662
- Harry's new book "Spare"
contains salacious revelations
1616
01:21:14,697 --> 01:21:17,907
and shocking allegations that
his brother Prince William
1617
01:21:17,942 --> 01:21:19,909
knocked him to the ground
in an argument
1618
01:21:19,944 --> 01:21:21,911
linked to Harry's marriage
to Meghan Markle,
1619
01:21:21,946 --> 01:21:24,258
Duchess of Sussex.
1620
01:21:24,293 --> 01:21:28,918
♪
1621
01:21:28,953 --> 01:21:31,576
- I got to know
William and Harry
1622
01:21:31,610 --> 01:21:34,234
as well as I know
my own family.
1623
01:21:34,268 --> 01:21:37,927
In all the years I was there,
I didn't witness fallouts.
1624
01:21:37,962 --> 01:21:41,931
I didn't witness arguments.
I didn't witness shouting.
1625
01:21:41,966 --> 01:21:45,417
These are things I didn't--
I didn't see any of that.
1626
01:21:45,452 --> 01:21:48,006
They were a happy family.
1627
01:21:48,041 --> 01:21:50,284
So that bit doesn't add up.
1628
01:21:50,319 --> 01:21:52,286
- It was given an air
of being not quite ready
1629
01:21:52,321 --> 01:21:54,633
for parenthood--
the responsibilities,
1630
01:21:54,668 --> 01:21:56,773
the patience, the time.
1631
01:21:56,808 --> 01:22:00,812
Even he, though a proud man,
would have admitted as much.
1632
01:22:00,846 --> 01:22:04,954
But single parenthood,
Pa was never made for that.
1633
01:22:04,989 --> 01:22:08,026
To be fair, he tried.
1634
01:22:08,061 --> 01:22:10,270
- Harry thanked his father
for the way
1635
01:22:10,304 --> 01:22:12,099
he walked his bride
down the aisle.
1636
01:22:12,134 --> 01:22:13,963
He thanked his father
for the way
1637
01:22:13,998 --> 01:22:15,861
he helped shape him
as a man and his belief
1638
01:22:15,896 --> 01:22:17,346
in the environment.
1639
01:22:17,380 --> 01:22:19,106
So I don't really know
where he suddenly
1640
01:22:19,141 --> 01:22:21,695
had this complete about-face
on his father.
1641
01:22:21,729 --> 01:22:23,731
It certainly has upset
the king, I mean,
1642
01:22:23,766 --> 01:22:26,113
because of course it would.
1643
01:22:26,148 --> 01:22:27,563
- With everything
going on with Harry,
1644
01:22:27,597 --> 01:22:30,807
I don't know what made him
change so much.
1645
01:22:30,842 --> 01:22:33,155
I look at him,
and I just think--
1646
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:35,985
I just--it's a very
different character.
1647
01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:37,504
Something has happened.
1648
01:22:37,538 --> 01:22:39,195
Something has changed him
1649
01:22:39,230 --> 01:22:42,992
and made him very different.
1650
01:22:43,027 --> 01:22:44,890
- He was very close
to his brother,
1651
01:22:44,925 --> 01:22:47,479
and he loved Kate.
1652
01:22:47,514 --> 01:22:50,310
He's changed a great deal.
1653
01:22:50,344 --> 01:22:53,002
And it's been
since he married Meghan,
1654
01:22:53,037 --> 01:22:57,765
so draw the conclusion
that you want.
1655
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,906
♪
1656
01:23:02,563 --> 01:23:05,221
- The window display
wasn't subtle,
1657
01:23:05,256 --> 01:23:09,191
but then again,
nothing about this has been.
1658
01:23:09,225 --> 01:23:14,334
It is the fastest-selling
non-fiction book ever.
1659
01:23:15,266 --> 01:23:19,477
- Diana is a central theme
to his biography.
1660
01:23:19,511 --> 01:23:23,343
And I think that what Harry
has reflected upon
1661
01:23:23,377 --> 01:23:26,346
is understanding
that his mother was unhappy
1662
01:23:26,380 --> 01:23:28,555
for a lot of her life
while married
1663
01:23:28,589 --> 01:23:30,867
because of the relationship
1664
01:23:30,902 --> 01:23:32,835
that her husband
was having with Camilla.
1665
01:23:32,869 --> 01:23:37,115
- "We support you," we said.
"We endorse Camilla," we said.
1666
01:23:37,150 --> 01:23:40,774
"Just please don't marry her.
Just be together, Pa."
1667
01:23:40,808 --> 01:23:42,396
He didn't answer.
1668
01:23:42,431 --> 01:23:45,158
But she answered
straight away.
1669
01:23:45,192 --> 01:23:46,952
Shortly after
our private summits with her,
1670
01:23:46,987 --> 01:23:48,747
she began to play
the long game,
1671
01:23:48,782 --> 01:23:51,233
a campaign aimed at marriage,
and eventually the crown,
1672
01:23:51,267 --> 01:23:54,063
with Pa's blessing,
we presumed.
1673
01:23:54,098 --> 01:23:57,308
- William and Harry
weren't happy
1674
01:23:57,342 --> 01:24:00,035
about Charles
and Camilla's marriage.
1675
01:24:00,069 --> 01:24:02,106
Camilla was the person
who made
1676
01:24:02,140 --> 01:24:04,660
their beloved mother unhappy.
1677
01:24:05,764 --> 01:24:08,940
- I think that Harry finds
it difficult to reconcile,
1678
01:24:08,974 --> 01:24:11,149
in a way, with his father
because of that.
1679
01:24:11,184 --> 01:24:14,808
- I think that Harry
is very like his mother.
1680
01:24:14,842 --> 01:24:17,121
And I think
that there are parallels
1681
01:24:17,155 --> 01:24:19,468
in the way they have behaved.
1682
01:24:19,502 --> 01:24:23,851
I think what he's doing now
is incredibly self-destructive
1683
01:24:23,886 --> 01:24:27,855
and destroying everything
that he knew and loved.
1684
01:24:32,964 --> 01:24:35,794
- The main thing to understand
about the Windsors
1685
01:24:35,829 --> 01:24:38,625
is they're a spectacularly
dysfunctional family.
1686
01:24:38,659 --> 01:24:40,144
And why wouldn't they be?
1687
01:24:40,178 --> 01:24:43,354
They grow up in the strangest
of circumstances
1688
01:24:43,388 --> 01:24:48,980
and always this kind of
public eye looking in on them.
1689
01:24:49,014 --> 01:24:51,155
And they're also,
not to forget,
1690
01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:53,088
always pitted
against each other.
1691
01:24:53,122 --> 01:24:55,228
They're in competition.
1692
01:24:55,262 --> 01:24:57,506
- Now, how many book deals
has Harry signed?
1693
01:24:57,540 --> 01:24:59,749
How many more programs
have they still got to make?
1694
01:24:59,784 --> 01:25:05,238
What is selling those books is
the dirt on the royal family.
1695
01:25:05,272 --> 01:25:08,172
It's not chicken rearing
in Montecito.
1696
01:25:08,206 --> 01:25:11,278
So this could go on forever.
1697
01:25:15,696 --> 01:25:18,665
- At this moment in time,
there's been polls done,
1698
01:25:18,699 --> 01:25:21,530
and the monarchy's
popularity has dropped.
1699
01:25:21,564 --> 01:25:24,084
Charles,
his popularity has dropped.
1700
01:25:24,119 --> 01:25:26,604
William and Kate's
popularity has dropped.
1701
01:25:26,638 --> 01:25:29,572
Harry's popularity
has dropped.
1702
01:25:29,607 --> 01:25:32,920
What does that say
for the future of it?
1703
01:25:32,955 --> 01:25:36,200
And I don't think Harry
realizes that maybe he started
1704
01:25:36,234 --> 01:25:38,788
a time bomb,
which could actually
1705
01:25:38,823 --> 01:25:41,377
be the catalyst to actually
destroying the monarchy.
1706
01:25:41,412 --> 01:25:43,586
[dramatic music]
1707
01:25:43,621 --> 01:25:45,243
I think that one thing
about Charles is,
1708
01:25:45,278 --> 01:25:47,280
he's very protective
of the monarchy.
1709
01:25:47,314 --> 01:25:50,110
You know, the monarchy
is everything, obviously.
1710
01:25:50,145 --> 01:25:52,319
And he wants to ensure
that it continues,
1711
01:25:52,354 --> 01:25:53,769
like his mother did.
1712
01:25:53,803 --> 01:25:55,909
So if he feels
that his son is going
1713
01:25:55,943 --> 01:25:58,843
to damage or affect her,
he has to make the decision,
1714
01:25:58,877 --> 01:26:01,639
do I support my son?
1715
01:26:01,673 --> 01:26:04,504
♪
1716
01:26:04,538 --> 01:26:08,128
Or do I support the monarchy?
1717
01:26:08,163 --> 01:26:10,579
He will support the monarchy.
1718
01:26:10,613 --> 01:26:17,655
♪
1719
01:26:22,798 --> 01:26:25,766
[dramatic orchestral music]
1720
01:26:25,801 --> 01:26:33,015
♪
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